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That demand would miss the point. Men want to be wanted the same way women do. Just as women get upset when their man does the bare minimum, men would be equally aggrieved at adherence to such a minimum standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 07:49 PM
5

That seems a tad unrealistic. Most mature adults understand that relationships(like with everything else in life) will include doing things they may not want to. Many men definitely do this for the benefit of the woman and they do them willingly. It's part of the sacrifice people make for each other. To be unwilling to reciprocate that, while claiming the mans willingness to make such sacrifices is a burden they chose that you had no hand in, is bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 07:46 PM
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Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 06:28 PM
6

So what would you expect out of a man out of curiosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 06:25 PM
9

Yes, it turns out math is great for quantifying things. Including the effort women are un/willing to put into their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 06:24 PM
1

Sure. Take the win. You clearly need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 06:08 PM
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Feel free. I'm not terribly troubled by such judgements.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 07:08 AM
3

Wrong answer. Now your in hell watching demons pass around your spouse for eternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 08:54 PM
1

You just haven't tried it with the right woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 08:10 PM
5

If one party can exhibit bad character regularly and rarely if ever suffer any consequence from it, than how does it even matter? What would be the point in being of better character if it only leads one to more suffering? We seem to live in a world where virtue is grounds for suffering and being selfish is rewarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 07:16 PM
1

Would it help if I pointed out that "these things" is not synonymous with "all things in life"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:46 PM
1

Not everything in life is a means to that end. Just typically those things that are in pursuit of excess resources beyond our own needs and hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:23 AM
1

Yes. A lot of "bi" women are just like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 11:24 PM
1

The degree is just another means to an ends that is not necessary for everyone to obtain to get their desired ends. So while the obtainment of a degree is not the goal in and of itself. It can facilitate obtaining the goal. But the degree is not itself the goal. The job that the degree did or did not (if they had no degree at all)help facilitate is also not the goal. It too is a means. Unless I suppose your the kind of person who lives to work rather than works to live. All of this is to facilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 09:26 PM
3

We'll thank you. That may be the nicest thing anyone has said to me in a while. Living in a world full of narcissist's often worries me that it may eventually rub off on me. I keep hoping humility makes a comeback as a societal virtue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 09:06 PM
0

Wtf is this "truly Bi" shit? Are we down to gatekeeping how bi women are until they fill out a survey now? And on that scale, anything 1-5 should be considered Bi. And are we really relying on results collected in the 50's? As though nothing has changed since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 08:05 PM
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I'm painfully aware. I would have rather some ex's had the decency to slit my throat in my sleep than what they instead chose to do to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 08:01 PM
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I don't know where you thought I was going with the discussion, but this was not about me personally. That doesn't make me intellectually dishonest. I can explore ideas and concepts without personalizing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 07:58 PM
1

That's an interesting layer of complexity. I take back what i said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 07:01 PM
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it’s just that i don’t see why i should bother protecting their feelings when i could just act in self-serving ways that end up making life easier for me. Adopting this position just turns into a race to the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:46 PM
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calling me a slut for leading him on after I told him I don’t want a third date. It's so strange to me that after all this time, despite how often they like to use the word, so many men still don't know the definition of slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:37 PM
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The problem with the position is that being raped isn't something that only affects you physically. It also screws with your head. From the outside its easy to view simply as a physical violation, but from the victims perspective a lot of complicated thoughts arise. Like out of all of the possible options why was I chosen to be violated? Which that thought alone can send you down quite the mental rabbit hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:34 PM
0

I'm still amused that there are still people that think women being Bi isn't the default.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:29 PM
3

I was never a druggy. I was in the minority among my peers on that front. And none of the women I was with were themselves homeless. In fact many of them came from more solid middle class backgrounds. I made every attempt to avoid being with druggy's myself to varying degrees of success and failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 05:48 PM
1

I never made this about me or claimed I went to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 05:44 PM
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Sadly it was a step up from my experiences living with abusive parents. But your right about how people treat you when your homeless. I learned early on that the first rule of being homeless is to not look or smell homeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 05:43 PM
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Very true. Though at the time my thinking was more about how insulting it was that they had to be drunk to entertain the idea of sex with me. I get that I'm a hideous guy, but that just rubs salt in the wound.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 05:41 PM
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There are such women(or I'm at least still deluded enough to believe it, even after everything). I'm just convinced at this point that it's a minority of them. Unfortunately the odds for any man to wind up with one before they become like the others (either through social pressure from their peers and culture or from bad experiences with shitty men) are increasingly low and the odds are definitely not in our favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 05:38 PM
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There are such women(or I'm at least still deluded enough to believe it, even after everything). I'm just convinced at this point that it's a minority of them. Unfortunately the odds for any man to wind up with one before they become like the others (either through social pressure from their peers and culture or from bad experiences with shitty men) are increasingly low and the odds are definitely not in our favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 05:38 PM
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Being homeless, you find yourself in some questionable situations to be sure, but I never intentionally slept with a taken woman. I'm not sure I could live with myself if I had. I've been on the other side of that too many time to ever inflict that on someone else, simply because they were foolish enough to have faith in another person to not betray them. On a couple occasions I did rat them out to their other half when they were being rather overt about their intentions. Unfortunately in one ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:13 AM
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It was actually one of the best times in my life. That is all relative however.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:06 AM
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I'm guessing you have some point to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:04 AM
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Of course. There are plenty of people without degrees that got married. It's only one possible means to the same ends. Many people can manage to gain employment that pays well enough to support more than themselves without a college degree. Though I never personalized any of this to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:03 AM
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I had the same rule, and boy did that seem to really infuriate many of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:01 AM
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Do I need to? Granted that's reductive, but not entirely untrue. Most people do not spend hours upon hours of their lives for months at a time in colleges, slaving over books and tests because that's their goal in life in and of itself. The "valuable degree" is itself a means to an ends of getting a well paying enough job(another means) that they can support more than just themselves. Why would they have any interest in supporting more than just themselves I wonder?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:44 PM
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I never had as much sex as the 2 years I spent homeless as a teenager. I wasn't a druggy, but many of my friends where. The amount of forward attention and from so many women filled me with disgust at a few points and made it really hard to fall for the bullshit about women having any sense of morality or even pickiness about what they sleep with. I had mothers hit me up for threesomes with their daughters. I had a woman admit to wanting to fuck me the night before her wedding. It honestly all m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:23 PM
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Your confusing means and ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:52 PM
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All I know is I'm placing Puts on $SIMP at market open tomorrow. Thanks for the DD.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:39 PM
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Praise was not the typical reaction towards him at the time. The typical response from them was the idea that this guy was an entitled moron who didn't see how obviously good he had it. They saw a not bad looking person complaining and whining about circumstances he could have easily changed. Most Incels see themselves as unattractive for various reasons outside of their control. They did not identify with him at the time. There was a lot of fear that he was going to be linked back to them and, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 08:05 PM
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It's still amazing to me that no one caught on that calling Elliot Rogers "supreme gentleman" was incel's mocking him. Not praising him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 08:04 PM
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Then certainly there have since been equally popular published works that are more contemporary that point out this disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 07:33 PM
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"One of Beauvoir's best-known books, The Second Sex is often regarded as a major work of feminist philosophy and the starting inspiration point of second-wave feminism" "The first French publication of The Second Sex sold around 22,000 copies in a week. It has since been translated into 40 languages." "The attack on psychoanalysis in The Second Sex helped to inspire subsequent feminist arguments against psychoanalysis, including those of Betty Friedan's The Feminine Mystique (1963), Kate Millett…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:22 PM
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Obviously because one side still has needs that the other isn't willing to meet. If both sides had libido's decrease to the same extent, than no one would be complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 12:19 AM
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If your society can only work in a vacuum, it wont work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 11:56 PM
1

We are more animals then women are So your saying women are more like plants because at least some animals can reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 07:44 PM
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Maybe reason? Unless women are just animals and all this talk of equality is bullshit like the fact that I even need to point any of this out would seem to indicate. Was the evolution of self-awareness wasted on women? Is every man's hope of finding an equal, a delusion on the part of men that we fell for? My own sense of reason is beginning to suggest us men have been played.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 06:34 PM
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Weird how that buzz word makes its way into things that have nothing to do with it. If men truly objectified women, they would have as much interest in women as they do a flesh light. Yet men don't tend to buy those anywhere near the quantities that women purchase vibrators at.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:51 PM
0

I'm always shocked that so many woman manage to go through life without having been assaulted at least once. I just can't relate with that level of privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:46 PM
0

A dog is always a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 08:59 PM
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Maybe some honest consideration for why this isn't working, and then adjusting for it. For example being less concerned about random strangers who have just as much of a right to exist out in the world as you do. Perhaps some consideration that your personal knee jerk emotional response for seeing a stranger is not reliably giving you a complete or accurate picture. Perhaps some discernment in analyzing behavior. It's hard for me to provide specific instruction since I don't happen to suffer fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 08:19 PM
1

At which point anyone you had attracted and was trying to build a life with will ditch you at the first sign of Rogaine use. Why worry?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 07:06 PM
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Didn't you get the memo. We somehow found evidence that evolution stops at the neck. No I won't produce any such evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 07:03 PM
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By the time your old enough to get bored of sex, you can no longer pull off being a hentai character convincingly. It just starts looking increasingly sad and spooky when they try.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 07:01 PM
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I've heard so many stories from dominatrixes, that its exactly what I think now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:54 PM
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Some high-power men do pay dominatrixes for the same reason, but it must be less common. Actually it is very common. I use to move in those circles for a few years. Even had a several year long relationship with a dominatrix(I don't recommend it).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:52 PM
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I think the problem is that the compass women tend to rely on is... well... broken. And unfortunately they have no interest in applying any kind of repair to it. No matter how often the evidence is presented that their tactic's are not doing a great job of keeping them safe and is instead just alienating innocent people, they still insist on justifying their same terrible methods of determining who is or isn't a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:40 PM
1

Only 1/3. Damn. They found so many saints. I'm impressed though it does raise questions about the methodology and sample size.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:37 PM
1

I'm curious about something. Do you drink?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:35 PM
1

What matters is if it was a representative sample. It seems that it may not be, but I haven't looked into it in detail to determine if it is or not. Seems to undermine your response a bit. If you haven't even taken a look at these statistics, let alone the methodology, than how can you claim I have taken any words out of context? I was reflecting on the assumption you seem all to comfortable to defend, made with the evidence not even having been reviewed. Your general knowledge of statistics doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 07:32 PM
1

Not sure how you'd come to that conclusion Because having less people means that they require fewer doctors, nurses and teachers. It's not complicated. it's pretty basic population dynamics. Even if the scenario you are trying to paint comes to pass, and we are immediately flooded with another million immigrants in the next year. And they all are here to become doctors and somehow come across the border loaded with the enough currency to fund their own college education and medical school. By th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 07:18 PM
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So now your pointing out why we will in fact need less doctor's and health care workers and teachers. Please make up your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:34 PM
1

So how much of those number represent the roughly million immigrants that come over the border per year?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 12:28 AM
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You know how every guy you have been with claims to be above average? They aren't lying. I'm just on the other side, holding down that average.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 09:01 PM
0

representative sample That sounds like an assumption in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 08:52 PM
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They did a fine job of making themselves fools with this study.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 08:50 PM
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That might be more of a point if not for the fact that this was a university study. Apparently our academics are still a bit dumb too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 08:50 PM
0

There are straight up not enough nurses, teachers, elder care workers, etc. We need more people. People =/= Nurses, teachers, health care workers. We have people. Hundreds of Millions of people in fact. The numbers of those people that become any of those things are already pretty low. Do you imagine that open immigration with no or little restrictions letting in people who tend to have even less educational qualification than those already here, is going to grant us even more doctors and nurses…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 05:53 PM
1

Then they beat each other at incredibly high rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:58 PM
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We actually need increased immigration because of our declining population. We cannot support boomers. We don't need less people. We need more especially in key sectors like education, health, and especially elder care. How many of the near million immigrants that cross the border every year, are teachers, doctors or health care specialists do you imagine? Also its not the boomers that are in trouble. They own far more of the nations wealth than the younger people do. Even if we adjusted for inf…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:43 PM
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Shit happens, doesn’t mean everyone is shit. That's true. Some people are dead. I have found that is when they are at their most moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:02 PM
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While I'm not advocating that anyone should have a lack of choice, he does make some points. You even brush against them but for some reason haven't connected the dots. Income equality, stagnant wages, and rising cost of living was largely helped along by "women's lib". David Rockefeller is even said to have claimed to at one point started the feminist movement to create a larger tax base and more workers to drive wages down. We also know that the CIA even funded the feminist movement in an effo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:00 PM
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As long as its actually witty and not something I have heard before. Context matters. Also they can't get offended if I jump in. Which I might.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 08:12 AM
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I have never expected love from anyone who didnt claim to offer it first. I have never manipulated any woman into sex. If anything, I usually am the one that slows things down. Despite the claims about women being more interested in obtaining commitment, they dont seem as interested in maintaining it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 02:49 AM
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I know mine wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 02:46 AM
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The difference is society gives consideration to your pain and concerns. Even men care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 06:51 PM
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It's how you insure that you will continue to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:49 PM
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Men do not have the same level of fear that women have about physical violence. Men are exposed to it far more growing up on average so we are desensitized to it. Eventually we just accept it as a reality of life that we will be assaulted from time to time. Provided we survive it, we move past it. It's not something we have the luxury of being terrified of. What men fear is betrayal by those we love or trust. That all of our pain and suffering was in service to those who cared nothing for us and…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:48 PM
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I was the victim of rape the first time. But no, that isn't what I'm talking about. And seeing as how sex and relationships are generally at the assent of 2 people, it was not exclusively my choice. I'm not a serial monogamist, though i have had that term thrown at me. But that wasn't my choice. If it had been entirely up to me i would still be in my first relationship. Unfortunately she chose lies and drugs over me
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 10:12 PM
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I have personally been with 13 people so far in my life. The difference is that I could have easily slept with far more, but if it had been entirely up to me I would have only ever slept with 1. That difference says a lot about a person and their priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 07:08 PM
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Yes, I'm fortunate enough to have never had to resort to lowering myself to that level of childish behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 02:05 AM
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Maybe some of us just have standards. I just have no respect for an adult that is still acting so childishly and I sure as hell have no interest in fucking a child. Act like an adult or don't waste my time. They always go on about how they want to be respected. How about acting like someone worth respecting. Otherwise they have no right to complain about not being taken seriously. I'm all for treating women as equals. But it only makes sense if they can behave as such. Otherwise I'm not interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 10:01 PM
1

Actually a single person working for the post office was able to afford to support a family, fund their pension, and send their children to college. Most of the oil rig workers who did work 18 hours a day, were doing it because they would be cycled from working to not working for weeks at a time because they could afford to. A common practice still today. They work long hours because well, what else are you going to do. It's not like you can just up and leave. Your stuck their anyway. May as wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 09:46 PM
4

Women are leading men in obesity rates by a significant margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 07:07 PM
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Yes, though with women having a significant lead in those rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 07:05 PM
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If that's true then why did we go from 1 income households to multiple income households as the norm?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 07:04 PM
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In his defense he was pretty drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 08:06 AM
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Only a woman can look at a pile of dead men and be petty enough to think acknowledging actual victims is supposed to entertain them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 09:08 PM
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That was not a one way street. Men were getting sent to debtors prisons due to the spending of their wives and them not being able to keep up financially with those debts. This eventually became such a problem that it was required for a time for a woman to gain written permission from their husbands to be able to make large purchases. Funny how the only part of that history that people remember is the part of how it inconvenienced women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 07:51 PM
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That's only true if your a woman. This is why men have to resort to violence or leverage. Relying on the empathy of others will rarely work as a man. Most people will care about you no more than you do about any other random man, and with equal suspicion. Even witnessing you suffer firsthand, wont move the needle much. Its expected of you after all. The sooner you accept this, the more effective you will become.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:52 PM
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Given your last response to me merely citing the law and then jumping to insane conclusions about me, I'm going to file this also under "you have no clue what your talking about" and disregard your opinions on any subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:25 PM
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Of course. Didn't you know by acknowledging that a law exists, that it signals that one is automatically opposed to that law? I couldn't possibly have been citing it for any other reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:21 PM
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It's based on Federal Title IX legislation so unfortunately it extends to some degree outside of California as well. Particularly if your in college. Even if the event in question did not take place on campus.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 12:32 AM
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I don't get how people in US don't appreciate that a bit of alcohol is always a positive Seriously I'm amazed by how much people here talk about hobbies, intriguing activities or whatnot- for gods sake just go out for a pint and chat a girl up! California Penal Code 261(a)(3)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:01 PM
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People seem to be focusing their justifications for their position on this subject based on whether men or women get to be taken advantage of respectively. I can understand this. No one want to get taken advantage of and obviously people that do, want to be able to. However I find it interesting how in light of this, that the "best interest of the child" quits being the primary motivation for people's position here. Seeing as how a child having an accurate medical history is undeniably in the be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 06:53 PM
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And yet somehow lesbians still edge them out in the wife abusing category. Next time I think about calling a cop to get a crazy woman off of me, I guess I should call a lesbian instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 08:21 PM
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Why would men call the cops, unless men are masochists? Ever notice who the cops tend to beat the shit out of?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:30 PM
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Yes I'm sure men made that up entirely from the ether.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:29 PM
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What man hasn't been assaulted by their friends? Men don't live in fear of being touched. Being randomly assaulted during our childhoods and teen years, tend to make such concerns to be the height of triviality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:48 PM
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You mean where exchange vapid pleasantries to each other in person, but immediately talk shit on each other the moment they think they are out of earshot? Yeah, that sounds like a fantastic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:45 PM
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What? How dare what happens on a psuedononomous message board not keep you up at night. Someone might think less of your semi-fictional online persona. They might even call you an offensive thing that your therapist will need to hear all about for years. How can you deny your therapist that kind of income. Don't you care that someone who listens to people complain for a living might only be able to afford 2 homes?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 06:52 PM
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You can apply that line to literally everything anyone says in this forum. It's not terribly useful and defeats the entire point of having any kind of sub like this. We only speak for ourselves. The fact that you could possibly imagine otherwise informs me that you completely lack that self-awareness. My experience is just as relevant as anyone else's here on the subject of being the very thing I have been all my life and witnessing the actions and justifications for other men's behavior just as…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 06:48 PM
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I’d rather be with a girl who has slept with 500+ guys who were all bums or not at my level I hate to be the one to tell you this but water finds its own level. People tend to follow patterns. It's highly unlikely your actually an exception regardless what delusion you tell yourself to feel superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:16 PM
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The only way any of us can tell if another man is attractive or not is his success with women. We tend to all look pretty hideous to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:00 PM
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If only.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:44 PM
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That's not good enough. You need to take responsibility for every member of your sex like men are expected to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:34 PM
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I don't think your wrong. You make some solid points about culture here. But I think that the male "hypocrisy" on the matter of male sexuality predates our modern culture and may even predate these religions. I suspect its based on something more primal than culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:16 PM
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Experience with having been a man for decades and having some level of self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:13 PM
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men do tend to ignore it as a factor ..when for women it's hard to do that. Men don't ignore it. We experience it far more often than women tend to. We just accept that it is an unfortunate thing that happens and move on with our lives because we cannot afford the luxury of fixating on it the way women do. I didn't spend the next week, never mind the next decade, living in fear of the man who outweighed me by over double who broke my nose with his fist. It sucked in the moment and i got over it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:26 PM
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Anything representative of male sexuality is demonized. Anything representing female sexuality is praised. And honestly, men want it this way. Our own sexuality is not something we choose to see as bad, but other men's sexuality, we generally just don't want to see as it rightly fills us with disgust. Just as ours makes other men equally uncomfortable. Most men share this personal hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:16 PM
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I agree with your overall point. Your illustration just seemed to lack self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:11 PM
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I don't hold it against women that they have standards. I just wish their standards weren't such trash. Social capital as a currency is about as valuable as cryptocurrency and for all of the same reasons. Why would you tie yours or anyone else's personal value to anything so volatile and disconnected from reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 08:58 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:43 AM
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Of course you do. Your a woman in your 20's on Discord playing video games. Even if you were literally handicapped, you wouldn't have an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:00 AM
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Women's need for social feedback from strangers or acquaintances makes me very thankful I'm a man despite all its issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:55 AM
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daygames ??? I tried google but I got numerous different things from this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:48 AM
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Bullet dodged. Imagine the neurosis you would have to cater to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:46 AM
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That would be the virtuous thing to do. Which of course puts it in complete opposition to the nature of every living thing so it will never happen. Instead this hell will continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 06:48 PM
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A perfect world would have never had life on it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 03:26 AM
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Oh, I’m sorry, was I being child-focussed instead of parent-centric? Oh, my! If that were true, you would be against having them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 08:38 PM
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I would rather spend that time sleeping better at night knowing I didn't drag an innocent into a world where they will inevitably suffer and die and for what? So that I can justify myself by creating more misery in a world that already has too much of it? I'll pass. I would rather pursue a life of real meaning by doing what I can to reduce the suffering in the world, not adding to it. Any roach can reproduce. If that's something one is proud of, then the bar to justify your existence is so low, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 08:28 PM
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men just don’t treat women like people. Not listening when we speak, speaking over us, not taking us seriously, acting entitled to our bodies, etc. The subtext here is that you think that men treat "people" better than this. They don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 09:35 PM
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It's projection. Men are far more given to anthropomorphizing rather than objectifying. They are more likely to prescribe human qualities to non humans around them. It comes out when a man refers to a car or boat as a she for example. They know they are inanimate objects, but they still bestow them with personalities. And even in terms of sex, men prefer more of a whole person. It's part of why men prefer visual pornography of a willing person to a silicone vagina. Women on the other hand are pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 09:33 PM
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The question is simple, why do you seek out people you hate and despise to the point you don't even think they're human beings? I also dislike the assumption that we should hate and despise non-humans. Everyone I hate and despise is human.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 08:15 PM
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Metoo and all that stuff happened exactly because it's taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 08:06 PM
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Not all of us are as in a hurry to share our friends social diseases.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 06:35 AM
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No. It really isn't. You lost a friend in this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 08:38 PM
1

Seinfeld also proves that people weren't picky when it came to comedy before too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:14 AM
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Immigration doesn't "destroy that concept". It illustrates it. Larger labor pool whether it is through native birth rates or immigration, lowers wages. Smaller labor pool through fewer births or less immigration raises wages.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:12 PM
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That part is a government irresponsibility problem. That said, the increases in SS contribution also go up along with taxes as people make more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:14 PM
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I just want to address a part of this, as its an argument I hear a great deal that no one seems to think critically about. This idea that fewer people will be supporting the older generation is a financial problem. It isn't. If the labor pool constricts, it tends to lead to higher wages for the remaining workers. Workers that make more money pay more in taxes. 2 people making 30k a year pay less in taxes than a single person who makes $60k. This is especially true if you take into account how mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:46 PM
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If the man is being accused of rape for having drunk sex, but most rape trials go nowhere, then how is he getting his shot at justice exactly? This is a complete contradiction. Especially given how easy it is for a man to loose a lot from just the accusation alone, regardless of a conviction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:24 PM
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ROFL! Ok, that was pretty good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:01 PM
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I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief. “Bad news, detective. We got a situation.” “What? Is the mayor trying to ban trans fats again?” “Worse. Somebody just stole four hundred and forty-seven million dollars’ worth of bitcoins.” The heroin needle practically fell out of my arm. “What kind of monster would do something like that? Bitcoins are the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:39 PM
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Fewer people are incarcerated so i guess we can get rid of prisons and use some of that saved money on paternity tests then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:35 PM
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It's always been interesting to me how selectively the idea that everything that a couple who create a child is legally required to do is supposed to be "in the best interests of the child" to the point of legal enforcement with this one glaring omission. How is it in the interests of the child to have an incomplete medical history? What competing interest is served here that should be placed above the best interest of the child?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:28 PM
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If a woman can look at a man and find that attractive, than very few women will meet a woman's standard for ugly. They probably are being genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 08:18 PM
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top of the male hierarchy Why would any man care about the view from the top of a pile of shit? Some men care about the whole alpha/beta thing, but only in relation to how women see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:15 PM
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I think i would prefer it if no other men found my woman attractive. Wouldn't make a difference in how i see her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:10 PM
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Are you attracted to disagreeableness?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 07:59 PM
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If women were attracted to humility, you would see a lot more of that out of men. Though the fact that men can often take a joke at their expense while women seem to bristle at that in most cases does kind of show a sense of humility.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 07:58 PM
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I have yet to ever see an attractive man. My only barometer for male attractiveness is how long i can stand to look at them before my last meal tries to come up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:08 AM
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Men will become the last remaining food source.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:57 PM
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Lesbianism. Math solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:53 PM
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They are just getting with each other more.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:52 PM
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Cuckold fetishes are apparently popular these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:52 PM
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Oh I'm sorry. Was he speaking for the men of the Roman Legion? Of course he means "modern" as in right now. The present that we are all currently occupying. Why would you jump to the conclusion that he is speaking of men of past decades or centuries? That would be entirely irrelevant to the current discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:51 PM
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Don't forget those of us below average. We know our place.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:48 PM
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Women have been banging machines for decades now, so basically nothing changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:11 PM
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The acceptable avenues for such use are largely supplanted by technology. Outside of opening the occasional jar, their isnt much need for it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 04:28 AM
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There must be something seriously wrong with you if that's where you decided to take that. I was speaking more in terms of utility. Having someone at your beck in call who is stronger and willing to take on the tasks that would require that physical strength would be considered an advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:19 PM
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The choice is irrelevant. The only avenue we had to provide advantage was all based on either social expectations that have since been eliminated. Or physical advantage which our technology has rendered irrelevant. A modern man brings nothing under current circumstances. What women refer to as "toxic masculinity" is often a reaction to other aspects of being male that women don't understand and would have no sympathy for even if they did. It's too far divorced from their experience. It would be …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 06:48 PM
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Risk? I didn't state that the female reaction to male vulnerability is a matter of anything close to an equal probability. What your offering is vapid, feel good, navel gazing, unrealistic advice here. And it will ruin people's lives. If the purpose of your response is to convince people to be less invested in their relationships, then fair play but at least be honest about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 06:40 PM
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I think its less about men learning to open up and more about women's reactions to men when they do. In the moment women can be sympathetic, but they are also uncomfortable underneath that and usually less attracted to a man she see's as vulnerable. Until the response to men "opening up" isn't the loss of respect and attraction, men have every reason to remain closed off. Men are nothing if not simple and easily guided by incentives and disincentives.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:13 PM
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If you see more pro's than con's than clearly you shouldn't. I'll be the first to acknowledge that i do not have the slightest understanding of why any women would choose to be with a man. As a man, i recognize that we really don't bring anything appealing to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:04 PM
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Sadly my experiences in the real world does little to counter this outlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 06:43 PM
1

Sounds like a complete win.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 09:23 AM
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Lol. It often a top hat these days. Decided mercury poisoning was better than lice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 06:18 AM
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Seems like a perverse incentive against "growing up".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:20 PM
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Updated slightly to the 19th century as I got older. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:19 PM
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I dont know about that. I got laid a whole lot more back in my homeless clown days.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 07:02 AM
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My mother mostly. I try not to think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 09:26 PM
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I'm an older goth guy and i did find myself single a few years ago. It was rough. I don't have tats or piercings though i do have long hair, pale skin and dark clothes and i am big on hygiene(I consider deodorant to be one of mankind's greatest inventions), and i try to dress classy no matter where i go. Women where not exactly throwing themselves at me. I was told I'm intimidating despite being on the smallish side. On the rare occasion when i did find myself in the company of a similar women, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 09:16 PM
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When i was younger i tended to dress in a mix of bondage and trench coats on some days and then tail coats and top hats on others. As I've aged i mostly quit the bondage look and these days still wear tail coats and suits. Trying to keep it classy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:53 PM
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What if you dressed like an 18th century aristocrat in your teens?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:50 PM
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Oof. I can't say your wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:49 PM
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What? You have never played Danzig or Sigourney Weaver?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:48 PM
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As i already explained, i don't care enough to make any attempt to convince you one way or the other. Your delusions are your problem. If anything, I'll gain more amusement by convincing you that they are correct. So your right. every man wants to rape and murder you. But those angelic women will watch from afar because they are so pure and moral that they cant get involved out of fear of being the next victim pulled from their high perch so they will instead tut dissaprovingly while all the men…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:19 PM
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Was i supposed to convince you that the article was completely wrong? I was picking my battles. I don't have the energy to constantly try to convince neurotic women that their fantasies of being so important that the rest of the world cares enough about them to be constantly on the hunt for ways to harm them isn't just another delusion. Sure if you put yourself in a position to be victimized some people will take advantage of the opportunity to do so. What i find hilarious is that you only seem …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:44 PM
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Even if we take this article as absolute fact, that still leaves 2/3rds(most) of the men who have no interest in rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:05 PM
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If sex was just sex for men, that might almost come off as dismissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:03 PM
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I am neither of these things, but i can assert with some confidence that much(though certainly not all) of what men are telling you here is true of the majority of what goes on under the hood of most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:01 PM
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I would not recommend that as a solution. I don't think most men would genuinely want this from women either. I know personally, sex with a woman that has sex with just about anyone isn't very fulfilling either. If any piece of shit can have her too, than how is my being with her at all validating? If anything at that point, it feels like i just lowered myself and would only leave me feeling like i have been judged as being of the same value as any random piece of garbage man. It's an unpleasant…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:34 PM
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That's like equating the person who blew their brains out after being exposed to the gympie plant as merely a suicide, ignoring that the pain from the plant is what drove them to blow their own heads off to escape the pain the plant caused. You think its merely a coincidence that suicide rates among men are so high and seem to spike after divorce for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:06 PM
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Is this forum just for single people all of this sudden?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 07:58 PM
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I notice reality has that affect on women. Then they complain when they discover their men lied to them, because those men understood that and so tried to create a fantasy for them and eventually couldn't maintain it in the face of whats real. For what its worth i find this reality pretty disappointing as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 07:44 PM
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But at the same time it's kinda cute how much you need this. As a man we view this as anything but cute. It's great if your sex drive is being satisfied. We feel on top of the world. But when it isn't being satisfied, it starts becoming a serious internal obstacle and actually starts sapping the color from life after too long. The number of men who are having their sexual needs met with depression are vanishingly small.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 07:31 PM
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As a man, i completely agree. I kind of miss how i was when i was a child before it was always taking up space in the back of my mind and trying to push its way to the front. Sadly as an adult, i don't have the same clarity till after sex and only for a few hours before the fog starts to roll back in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 07:26 PM
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Sounds like a lose/lose scenario all around then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 07:21 PM
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It's because sex for men isn't just sex. When men masturbate they often report feeling a bit ashamed afterwards or some feeling of hollow emptiness that isn't typically present after sex with a woman. While the physical actions may be comparable mechanically, it just isn't the same for men. Having a woman actually want sex from you is one of the most validating experiences possible for a man. Now this isn't universal but it is the case for the majority of men. It's also why despite what many wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 07:19 PM
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I completely agree that men should accept that women want to be with someone attractive. Men shouldn't even bother. That's simply not a bar that men are capable of. Leave women to each other. We as men simply do not compare. The fact that so much interaction between the sexes socializing and mating takes place in locations with alcohol should have been a strong indicator that we are not operating from a level playing field. Even the best looking man is on the same level as a homely woman. Modera…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:26 PM
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I looked over it a bit, the case made could be valid, though so far unproven. Curious and hope they explore this further. I would never suggest that animals cannot feel pain or that they even feel less of it. The only possibility of that is what seems to be humanities ability to consider such an outcome well in advance giving us perhaps an extra layer of dread on the experience. But i am not taking a position in bad faith here. That said, even if what they are claiming is true and physical pain …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:57 PM
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Because there is no worthwhile goal that justifies the massive suffering that has already taken place as a result of existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:35 PM
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I'm not a nihilist. I have values and priorities that i believe are valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:33 PM
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can feel pain (WELL before viability) Citation needed. I already provided mine that established that there is no capacity to feel pain till the end of the 3rd trimester. But ill go even further on that: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16118385/ As for your assertion that it would somehow be inconsistent to not also recommend the killing of autists or those with limited cerebral function, we need only ask the question: Can they feel pain? I'm fairly confident that autists are quite capable of fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:42 PM
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I am quite consistent on that point. Nothing benefits from existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:29 PM
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As far as abortion goes, that's bs. If a human has a functioning brain, they're a person and no one should be allowed to kill them. Last of all to mature is the cerebral cortex, which is responsible for most of what we think of as mental life–conscious experience, voluntary actions, thinking, remembering, and feeling. It has only begun to function around the time gestation comes to an end. source--- https://www.zerotothree.org/resources/1375-when-does-the-fetus-s-brain-begin-to-work So even 3rd …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:48 PM
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Humanities.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:41 PM
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Your giving "people" way too much credit here. People love fakeness. It's reality they despise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:40 PM
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Why only the third world?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:35 PM
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That's nonsense. I care a great deal about humans going extinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:30 PM
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Are we defined by claims, or by our actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:27 PM
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Because they want to see those white trash merit badges. Ooh, let me get the guide so i can decipher which mental issue this one means.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 09:59 PM
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I never said that. I expressed that men lack the proper terminology to express their position in the way women have spent decades developing theirs. I never brought myself up in regards to social skills. I simply said "men" which somehow got translated to "I have poor social skills".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 06:48 PM
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They implied that my reading a book would solve the problem faced by most men in general. I never made this about my personal social skills. I didnt personalize this to me at all in fact. My social skills or lack thereof are not the subject at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:38 AM
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Feel better?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:34 AM
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Would my reading said book suddenly gift men with the ability to fix this issue? Not sure why you would jump to the conclusion that i represent all men and that all men reflect my personal characteristics, but lets assume that your right. That i have "poor socialization" on account of being a man as a universal characteristic. Do you think no man has ever read such a book? If they have than clearly the issue for men must be solved as we are according to you, some kind of hive mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 12:03 AM
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Feminism pushes the idea that everyone owns their own bodies This is simply incompatible with the male experience. Most men in western countries had their genitals mutilated within the first hour of life. When they turn 18, they have to sign a legal contract with the government allowing that government the use of their lives if it sees fit under penalty of imprisonment. This idea that we own our own bodies rings pretty hollow for many men as a result. It makes the slogan "my body, my choice" see…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 07:58 PM
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I think it may also have a lot to do with how men simply don't have the language to properly express themselves in this context. A fact the Feminists have exploited and proactively headed men off at the pass by defining their reactions to women's behavior as "toxic" or otherwise evil or oppressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 07:53 PM
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Just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:24 PM
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But the writing in the Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing series of games was actually pretty good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 07:29 PM
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Hard to have any honest debate when entire factions are banned from being mentioned except to mock them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 07:15 PM
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Its why i use that quote on the rape prevention hotline and the holocaust memorial. Perfect for all occasions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 07:13 PM
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Wouldn't be relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:56 AM
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I suspect you might have that backwards. I think its more likely the gay friend that they see as human.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 07:47 PM
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Women love when you show love to them but don’t like feeling that she’s the only source of your happiness. It’s overwhelming and weird. So what otherwise in this world should be more important to men? What petty distraction should men care about more than their romantic relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:40 PM
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An abortion is a medical procedure, it's not a get out of parenthood free card. Are you suggesting that women have continued legal/financial responsibilities towards their aborted fetus? Because that is the only way any of what you said follows. I'm curious what these responsibilities are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:48 PM
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This one always baffled me. Oh noes, i get laid. How terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:41 PM
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Why enter into a marriage if what your really after is better served by a prenuptial agreement? The marriage is unnecessary if it doesn't include the terms itself. Marriage is simply superfluous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:38 PM
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Partnerships always come with terms and obligations. Whether in business or in anything else. Marriage has neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 11:54 PM
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I could turn that back on you. Back on me? Well, probably because at that point it is no longer a partnership. I can enjoy it in the moment sure, but I'm sure as hell not going to be inclined to make any sacrifices or investment in that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 11:35 PM
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Given that the standard then is that either side has the right to leave whenever they want without obligation or penalty.... What is the point of marriage? Why should anyone bother with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 10:51 PM
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I would like to contrast this with all of the various posts i have been seeing online from women about how women do not owe men anything and should have the right to leave at any time. Particularly the one going around about the guy with the piano who has been trying to serenade his love back and how hes in actuality a manipulative asshole who deserves nothing but scorn. https://mashable.com/article/luke-howard-piano-backlash
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:24 PM
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And what makes you think that claim is valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 09:35 PM
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It can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 09:34 PM
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All suicide to a level is cry for help Disagree. When i was 9 years old, an adult who knew about my home situation, told me that someday i would be 18 and i would be able to escape and never deal with it ever again. They thought they were trying to comfort me. They believed that they were offering me a light at the end of the tunnel. Unfortunately when you tell a 9 year old, that they will have to endure another 9 years of hell before there is even a possibility of change. To a 9 year old, that …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 07:15 PM
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Men need to collectively worry about their problems first. We, as women, can not do all of the work. And if women are the solution, or the only way a solution is possible, what then? This is a catch 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 06:52 PM
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know when to stop Then why start at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 06:50 PM
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Women can be emotional and know when to shut up about it. In my decades on this planet, i have rarely seen any evidence of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 06:49 PM
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So women relying on women=good Men relying on women=bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 06:25 PM
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"Thing is: Friends can also be affectionate, and give validation." No.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 06:22 PM
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I typically wear either dress shoes or combat boots. And yet shoes are the item i think about the least when putting myself together in the morning. I'm curious how badly I'm being misjudged for that now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 07:19 PM
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do not bother talking to any of us women. Why is this so hard to accept?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 07:01 PM
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rather than worrying that I'm not going to finish. This undercuts everything you wrote before it. Obviously it is in fact a priority for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 06:31 PM
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The man is entirely superfluous. I grant that men should just make peace with that, but the acceptance would turn men into the kind of person that a woman would be unlikely to have any attraction towards since women prefer men with "confidence" and that sense of confidence in men would be replaced with resignation in the best case.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 09:24 PM
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Seems they should just cut out the "middleman" then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 07:25 PM
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Yet sex stores have been everywhere for a long time and yet most men have never even set foot in one. I'm sure there is a minority of men who probably are regulars but practically every woman i have ever known has spent time in one, usually with their girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 07:07 PM
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Is the bar for sex really just limited to PIV though?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 07:01 PM
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Actually i think its high time we did start down this road.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 06:58 PM
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If a woman's sex toy usage hurts the man and woman's sex life, then the man has every right to be upset. I've never heard of cases like this, though I can't imagine there are a lot of men in this position who want to be first in line to out themselves publicly given the kind of knee jerk responses he is likely to receive as the OP highlights.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 06:57 PM
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It kind of was. One of them was an ex of mine who I'm still on great terms with. When i heard about how she was dating a woman who treated her this poorly, I was so mad. I had to explain to her that she shouldn't stand for that kind of treatment and her gf's justification holds no water. I wasn't as great a boyfriend as she deserved, but i would have never dreamed of treating her like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 06:52 PM
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Not at all. All i have to do is look at behaviors of others when that situation comes about. What you call presumption is simply playing the odds based on the patterns of behavior and outcomes that are already present in our reality. This idea that patterns are irrelevant to odds of outcomes in any given situation is a great way to be incorrect more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 05:40 PM
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While it is true that most households do require 2 incomes to maintain, that is largely because people tend to live at or above their means, rarely do people live below their means. If you lost your job he would take on the additional stress to support both of you. If he lost his job, the statistics indicate you would more likely be looking for divorce lawyers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 09:31 PM
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Investing in those with priorities that will likely take away from their role, would be too risky. Men being absent and only supplying financial support is sadly the norm for just this reason. A woman in that position would be more likely to quit jobs to do any of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 07:37 PM
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Realistically, your correct. CEO's jump out in golden parachutes no matter how badly they fuck up. And given that the people that find themselves in those positions tend to only get there by connections in the first place, its obvious they did in fact have a great deal of advantage and likely safety nets to get that position in the first place. The exception might be the person who built the business themselves but those are also likely privileged people to have been in a position where they cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 07:33 PM
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Ironically it is the very support which women receive that insures that they will never be equal to men. The reason most successful CEO's and upper management are men is largely a product of men having more to lose if they fail. Investors and board members are more confident putting money on something when they know that those responsible have more skin in the game and have more to lose as well. If the person in control is a man, than most people understand that that person will not likely have …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 06:49 PM
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Pretty poorly. A trend i have heard about more than once is that despite both being women they will often still adopt opposite gender roles and the one that puts themselves in the more masculine role will then emulate all of the worst traits of terrible men to the point of caricature and just treat their partner like crap. They will then claim that they are like a man and as a justification to "act like a dog". Which i guess means serial cheating and smacking them around. In other situations it …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 06:33 PM
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In the long run, there are no advantages at all to being a woman who dates unless maybe you're a lesbian. The fact that any woman is straight has always been baffling to me. But then the women i do know that have spent time attempting romantic relationships with other women, rarely speak highly about how women treat them in those relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:55 PM
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That would require forcing people into occupations they do not have any interest in and may in all likelihood hate. She wants an authoritarian central planner rather than freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:34 PM
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And its a part of this balanced breakfast. (Which is something virtually no one eats either)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 09:26 PM
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It’s almost like they’re trying to have plausible deniability about sexual desire. Dead on!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 09:18 PM
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Because present tense does not mean future tense. Most people evolve and react to the environment they are in. The idea that the is unchangeable is not compatible with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:13 AM
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If those things serve to help crush any sense of hope for you, then that served the purpose he mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 09:01 PM
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Almost half of Americans have no retirement savings of any kind. Most Americans with savings have less than $5k. Women tend to be in an even worse position dragging down the averages as less than half of them have any savings at all. Only 22% of women even have the mean savings amount of near $5k. So he is by definition in a superior financial position and doing far more than the average man is doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 07:15 PM
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So he should erase experience from himself? I'm not sure how that is expected to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 06:40 PM
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If you teach your children unconditional love, they will have a very handicapped view of how romantic relationships work. They will have no sense of responsibility towards their relationships and will just either expect the other person to simply put up with their bullshit or they will endlessly put up with the other persons bullshit. It does not teach them about reciprocity and terms because as much as no one wants to hear it, romantic relationships have conditions. To expect them not to have c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:34 PM
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It's amazing to me that anyone can make it anywhere near adulthood and not see someone telling them everything they want to hear as anything other than highly suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 09:35 AM
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Its the unconditional part that is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 11:50 PM
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It's one thing to feel that way towards your child. It's another thing to teach them that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 09:45 PM
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unconditional love This will be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 09:25 PM
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Sex with a randomer you don't find attractive Not sure how many more times i need to quote you here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 05:49 PM
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FDS principles I just couldn't be that... mercenary. That's just not an appealing thing to bring into a relationship, but if it works for you, more power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 12:10 AM
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Why the goal post moving? If the attractiveness was never important than why bring it up in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 12:06 AM
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I've never been one for drugs myself, but i did have an ex fiance who liked to cut herself and play with the blood. She would slit her ankles with a razor blade and bleed out enough to write me full letters in her blood. I wish i could say that was the most objectionable thing she did, but it didn't even rate. I guess I'm just desensitized to crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 12:04 AM
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I use to think the exact way about women. I figured that if they were the ones initiating the relationship, then it would be because they would really value it. I have been sadly mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 11:48 PM
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I told him to stop and he refused to respect my boundary. At which point that should have ended. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 11:18 PM
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You see in almost every situation some fault lies with the individual. Odd how that never seems to be the approach when it happens to women. Instead out comes all the stats and declarations about how men are terrible. Women claims to have been stalked or harassed by men, yet anyone who brings up the possibility that the individual woman could have maybe done something to avoid it is suddenly "victim blaming". Men i guess are just expected to be better judges of character.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 11:16 PM
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I think a lot of men's bitterness comes from disappointment more than hatred. If men genuinely hated women to the degree women seem to imagine, things would be a lot worse than they are and we would have lots of blood in the streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 09:21 PM
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What? Are you trying to say that you don't ask out men because you believe all men ask out other women and you feel like you being the one asking puts you beneath their ex's somehow? Because he ostensibly asked out their ex, they should have to ask you out as well? Setting yourself up to be treated like they treated an ex seems like a great way to become an ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 09:16 PM
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You acknowledge the cushion is there but you are unwilling to acknowledge that the cushion has an effect on lessening consequences. I'm having trouble not seeing this as cognitive dissonance. If one person is getting helped through the consequences of their actions and the other is not, then how can you claim these are the same or even equivalent consequences? Let's say you have 2 people who quit their job. One of them gets unemployment or alternately gets support from a spouse until they obtain…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 09:09 PM
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Now imagine if all of that combined trauma all happened to just one person you know. Would you still expect them to continue to view each episode as a single event and not draw conclusions from a pattern that plays out consistently in their life? Because i don't think that is realistic to expect. And you may think that its unlikely to happen to just one person, but the number of people living these horror stories with increased frequency is growing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 08:39 PM
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a woman who kills her children is sentenced more harshly. More harshly than who? A man that killed his children? Because if the comparison is against anything else, than its a bullshit comparison. And seeing how many death sentences i see handed out for that, I don't see how a woman is getting a harsher sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 08:24 PM
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But honestly I find it easier to believe that a lot of women make a lot of bad choices It makes a lot of sense if the consequences of your actions are never that bad, than your less likely to learn how bad a choice is. Given how women never face the same level of consequence for most things that a man would, it follows that they would never see their choices as equally bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 08:19 PM
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Sex with a randomer you don't find attractive is not fun for a woman in any way shape or form Who said anything about the person being unattractive? It's not as though sleeping with attractive men is harder to accomplish than any other man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 08:14 PM
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No. I don't think either of these statements would indicate hatred. Why would anyone jump to that conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 08:10 PM
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Was he literally taking out his frustrations on her? Or was he venting his frustrations about women in general and she chose to personalize it onto herself when he was not aiming it at her?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 07:51 PM
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But that would require them to better themselves and they are already perfect just as they are. They are the only ones with any right to expect better. They are better off just continuing to personalize the complaints about their gender while damning any men who do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 07:47 PM
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Your Dad's friend allowed this to continue to the point where this is common place? Person was such a good friend of your father than they were happy to serve people sexually harassing his friends daughter. Can someone remind me why anyone bothers having friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 07:35 PM
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Oh and also, in the majority of stalking cases the women is sent gifts and letters of adoration. Apparently they come with your stalkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 07:30 PM
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So women at least get some free gifts when they are stalked? Women get all the benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 07:28 PM
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And my expectation to be asked out first and flirted with is also apparently oh so difficult to meet these days. An expectation that would find at least half the male population in the grave before this ever took place for them. How are people so dense about their privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 07:23 PM
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Is it the combination of intoxication? I don't imagine you make the same judgment of intoxication of itself. Is sober vampirism more acceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 07:05 PM
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Is that really so strange?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 07:04 PM
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"How tragic." What about this that i should read again? The "shit i want" doesn't exist is what your telling me. How i react to that isn't really relevant or will change anything. I'm self-aware enough to understand this. You have admitted here that women lack that kind of self-awareness. And it is exactly the kind of person who also has a sense of self-awareness that i would want, because i am looking for an equal. If I'm more of an equal to the women that you have described for us here, i woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 06:32 PM
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Are you sure about that because most of what i see are girls being slutty and they seem to be racing to the bottom to see who can be the trashiest. "Chad" is fine with it because he doesn't value them in the first place and see's nothing of value for him being lost. He is only interested in their sexual utility. The rest of us were hoping for a bit more, but i suppose that was foolish to place any such expectations on women. It just sounds like your acknowledging that the "red pill" people are r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 06:17 PM
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So there is no cause and effect relationship here is what your trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 11:11 PM
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I see. So equality is just a pleasant lie men tell themselves to delude us into thinking that finding an equal is even possible. How tragic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 11:08 PM
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Its a matter of historical record that Mussolini was a member of socialist organizations before moving onto fascism. Mussolini came from a socialist revolutionary family that named him after Benito Jaurez, the Mexican revolutionary. He latter became known as the father of fascism after having been a member of the National Directorate of the Italian Socialist Party. He broke with them over disagreements on the role of Italy in WW1 where he favored intervention.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:53 PM
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The point he is making is that some men are getting exactly what they want by promoting "women's empowerment". Of course their motivations are not about what is in the best interest of women. A fact that is pretty obvious to all men. But the women don't seem to have the ability to look beyond themselves to see what their "allies" are really in it for. Anyone who tells you what you want to hear should be treated with suspicion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:32 PM
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Women's empowerment is just petulant rebellion for its own sake? Pretty sad if true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:27 PM
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It actually tended to work more in the other direction. Germany started the war against Russia with operation Barbossa which was effective at least in the beginning. It caught the Russians offguard and they did manage to push pretty far into Russia before it stalled when they seiged Moscow. But at this point the Russian military was still way behind on supplies so while the Germans where able to occupy land with some resources, arms not so much. The winter counteroffensive launched by the Russia…
/r/PussyPassDenied24/07/21 04:02 PM
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If anything Russia was incredibly wasteful with its manpower. They had more men than guns. Their soldiers were instructed to take guns from those that died with them to obtain one. Of course towards the end of WW2, it eventually caught up with them and they did start running low on bodies. However women being allowed into their military was an ideological decision as much as anything else. In communism, all are equal, so women had to be treated as poorly as men as a matter of ideological consist…
/r/PussyPassDenied23/07/21 08:49 PM
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getting into fights with other men Do you really imagine that it's easy as a man to avoid this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:38 AM
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The difference is your fearful of mere theoretical violence, while men regularly experience actual violence. Many men are also not bigger than women and are not very physically strong. And even they do not live in the kind of paranoid fear you insist on despite often being on the receiving end of brutality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:36 AM
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Is punishment the proper response to kindness?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:20 AM
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It's because of the complete trash standards that women select for that men are the way they are now. If women haven't worked that out after all this time were supposed to believe that it's going to magically change in the future? Men suck because women suck. There are 3 scenarios. 1: Womens selection criteria is trash and so they choose to breed with shitty men to pass along unattractive characteristics. 2: It's the womans own bad chrachteristics that they are passing on that create inferior me…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:02 AM
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Why the hell would I waste my time or energy convincing anyone? Manipulating insecure attention seeking idiots is beneath me and not worth the effort. They have nothing I want. Sex with an idiot feels too close to pedophilia to be at all appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 04:28 PM
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Also if the idea is whoever have the upper hand is entitled to abuse that power then don't scream for equality, it is simply contradicting. Not a contradiction at all. Women do not want equality because they have better ideas about how things should be done. They want equality so they can be just as terrible as men. They want to join men in making the world a worse place. Of course the outcome of now having twice as many people ruining everything isn't really going to help anyone. It's just abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:27 AM
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they would rather stay home on their computers than get out and meet people and do things. Imagine thinking that meeting people and "doing things" is preferable. Have you met people? Most of them are trash. The whole reason we created computers was so that we wouldn't have to "do things". What kind of Luddite thinking is this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:23 AM
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I agree that would be a last resort. Notice i asked why does he have a job, not why is he free or alive? The cops are probably not his employer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:31 PM
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So you give a pass to people doing inappropriate things based on being cute and young? Someday he will be neither of those things but because of your decision in letting him believe it is acceptable, he will still think its appropriate to do this to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:31 PM
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How does he still have a job?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:06 PM
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Challenge Accepted!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 11:42 PM
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Holy shit!! You mean those aren't all of them and despite the deluge that they spill on any listener, they are still restraining their output? Is it simply because the medium of language has limitations that do not allow them to dump the entire load of data that is still backed up within themselves about their issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:06 PM
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Correct. But they do it anyway despite the burden because that is what men are signing up for with a relationship and we don't delude ourselves about how everything in a relationship is supposed to be perfectly suited for us and never be an inconvenience or annoyance. It's not that men are unwilling to sacrifice of themselves for a relationship. They just want someone worth sacrificing for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:00 PM
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Because even men see other men as potential threats. It puts this additional obstacle to get past in order to form relationships. Men have distrust towards each other as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:52 PM
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Just need to dig up those Oktoberfest pics so we can call in the firing squad. Merica!
/r/PussyPassDenied01/07/21 04:21 PM
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Your right. We need photo's of her eating a Bratwurst. Certainly we can expect her ex to leak those next in an act of revenge diet shaming.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/07/21 12:23 AM
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Even if not a "nazi era" Iron cross, it does speak to an allegiance to a foreign power while being a part of the government of this country, which might put treason on the table.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/06/21 08:50 PM
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She isn't with another woman. That's a dead giveaway every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:40 PM
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Yes... It's all just about you and how everything else in the universe impacts you. You figured it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 08:59 PM
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Social conventions do nothing to take away from the fact that you are extracting resources from someone else. Even if they give those resources up willingly. Whether they are fucking me or not also has no bearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 07:42 PM
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I did not bring up who asked out who, because its irrelevant. While you may feel justified in being a parasite based on some convenient social norm, it does not make you less of a parasite.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 05:36 PM
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Let me try to reframe this in simpler illustrative terms you may be capable of grasping. If we go on a date and you make more money than me, but i still wind up paying for everything, your still a parasite.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 02:36 PM
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That would be true if that actually applied to anyone in the modern world. However that isn't at all the point that your initial discussion and attempt at rebuttal highlighted. Resource hoarding behavior is just as valid a criticism of the rich as of anyone. Making more money than the men you date does not make you any less of a resource sponge. It would just highlight that your tendency to resource hoard is as much a factor in your professional life as it is your personal life. Unless your rebu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:46 AM
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That's not the contradiction you seem to think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 11:18 PM
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if everyone thought like you there would be no one left. That's certainly one way to sell us on her point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:58 AM
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Everyone's genes want children. Nature is quite happy to see us breed to death, just as it has done to many species before us. Just as evolution and genetics has filled us with a desire for sex and hunger. Being child-free says nothing about my genetics. But just as i have the ability to reason to see past my genetic drives so that i don't rape or murder to fulfill my biological impulses, i can also apply it against my genes interest in procreation. Thankfully unlike people that choose to breed,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:47 PM
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Yes it is stupid. That's the point. It's as nonsensical as your belief that ideas simply die off as they can only be transmitted to ones own children in your worldview. Of course it's not just a thought. Who the hell suggested that? It takes follow through like every other idea that has ever led to any kind of result. What kind of pedantic argumentation is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:39 PM
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Sigh* link to study is in the article. https://www.science.org.au/curious/earth-environment/how-many-people-can-earth-actually-support
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:34 PM
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This is insane. It's like thinking that because Sir Isaac Newton didn't have kids, people that believe in gravity ceased to exist. There is no genetic component to being child free.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:47 AM
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That number varies depending on the acceptable standard of living. The maximum for a US middle class level of consumption would put us at around 2 Billion on the outside. If were content to settle on a tribal subsistence level of existence, possibly 20 Billion at most. Though anyone who would choose that option is a monster given the increased amount of suffering, that will attend that number with that kind of existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:40 AM
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Why does one group use more violent methods that are more likely to result in success when the other does not?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:26 PM
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I am not fond of the person i was when i let myself go. I still have nightmares of becoming that monster again. I suspect that men without honor is how you create hell. Women with no self-restraint and moral limits isn't as consequential as when men behave in the same fashion. I think that is why civilization finds it so necessary to imbue us with it. Women pursue the suffering of others with pettiness. When men pursue it, we can make demons shudder with our cruelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:50 AM
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I don't think it's not unrelated to how the very concept of honor is more of a male construct. A way for us to attempt to impose control over our own self-interest. That isn't to say that honorable women don't exist in some number.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 05:51 PM
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Not at all. I am of the opinion they have been rather restrained as a group considering how rarely they lash out over their unfair treatment. We are perhaps fortunate that they are perhaps restrained by their own discipline. Though its tragic that it is their very virtue that allows them to be taken advantage of. It says a lot about our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 05:29 PM
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True. Many shooters also have a military background. The relationship should be hard to ignore. Poorly treated people will tend to share their pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:47 PM
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Is "Male supremacy" the motivation/reason for why they are terrorists? It seems unlikely that your average man carries such beliefs. After all, if most men did, it would be quite a simple and easy thing for men to subjugate women to the point of their extermination or chattel slavery if men truly felt this way in mass. Or is there something more? Perhaps another way to get at the truth is to examine why women do not engage in the same or similar activities at the same rate. What do women have th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 07:13 PM
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That is very true. Which is why it puzzles me that you are so quick to lump them together.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 03:39 AM
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So like various religious groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 11:58 PM
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So 10 out of Thousands if not millions is enough. Ok. Women shooters are rare. The reason could be many things, but given how women rarely ever hit the same kind of bottom that men do, as exemplified by the statistics on suicides and homelessness, i suspect it is because it is much more unusual for them to feel they have nothing in their lives. Throwing ones own life away like this just doesn't have the same appeal when you feel you still have something to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 11:57 PM
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I'm trying to get a sense of where your standard for condemning a group of people as violent falls.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:55 PM
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Is that enough to label so many violent as a group?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:54 PM
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You did. You pointed to a single incident where an incel went on a mass shooting where he killed more men than women despite being a hardcore misogynist as support for the idea that incels are violent. Using that logic i can make a stong claim that women are violent seeing as how women are also represented in mass shootings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:14 PM
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Do you have anything else other than a single incident where a guy killed more men than women? Not that any of those deaths count as domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 08:32 PM
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Telling rando's on the internet to "fuck off" as though that does something and somehow everyone else is full of hate. How does one function with so little self-awareness?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 10:27 PM
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Did that feel good? Showed the big bad man on the internet that he was bad for saying things that did not cater to your precious widdle feerings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:18 PM
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"It would make me wrong and a hater of men." This was you. And when i said yes, it would make you a hater, it was because it was you. It was because the context was you who admitted here that it was based on your feelings of hate. The man you are trying to conflate your position had offered no such pronouncements about why he said what he did, even if he had said the identical thing. Given how in your case you have already illustrated that you see any such difference between people that would il…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:35 PM
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Actually no, you said you were a hater of men. Seeing as how you clearly believe that believing in any level of inferiority on the part of another is grounds for hating them. You decided to switch the conversation to being about you given your beliefs if you said the things he did. I did not concede that he shares your beliefs about inferiority anymore than i do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 05:13 AM
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Wrong, sure. A hater, yes. However it would not make one a liar. It would be a rational responce in light of ones experience. Simply claiming otherwise would not be convincing. Evidence would be required to change thier mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:07 PM
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Do women ever look at a guy they find too attractive and have that moment where they think this may be a trap of some kind because the guy could get any woman they wanted? Or do women never think of themselves as being less attractive than other women, unless its for reassurance and attention from others? Or do only men have that kind of risk assessment?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 08:19 AM
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Yes, you could apply this to race. Are you so naive as to believe that some racists were not created through negative experiences with another race? It would be illogical to expect exposure to the worst of any group of people to not affect how you would see that group. If we want to seriously end prejudices such as racism, then it will take more than just telling people that racism is bad and shaming them. They will need exposure to those of other groups who embody positive aspects that they can…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 08:01 AM
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Would that statement from you make you a liar or simply wrong? If that is all you have encountered, than it couldn't be a lie. From your position, your statement would be accurate. It would be your truth, until you came across evidence of a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:41 AM
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Careful here, this is the same logic people use to justify racism, ableism, and about every other -ism there is. I would rather deal with someone who arrived at incorrect conclusions based on reason or logic than a person who's beliefs are based on faith or self-interest. A person that reasoned their way to an incorrect belief, can be reasoned out of it. Logic of any kind isn't the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 08:59 PM
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Perhaps he hasn't met any and hasn't seen any evidence of the existence of good women. It would be insane of him or a lie to claim otherwise if that's the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 08:01 PM
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This default reaction has always confused me. Many things in the world are not my equal. Yet by your logic i am supposed to hate them. Why? Is this because women hate anything they perceive as not on their level? This would explain a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:45 PM
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People fake commitment all of the time. I've seen people do it for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:35 PM
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Starving on the streets due to lack of ability to make money easily because their bodies have no value outside of utility is the real privilege.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/05/21 12:41 AM
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It's a choice. One that for those who hit it younger has to be consciously made. It is true that it can be a reaction to certain trauma's but just as many people who suffer from abuse repeat the same behavior themselves. You have to make the choice to be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 06:49 PM
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I have met 20 year old's that beat out many of the 60 year old's i have known on the maturity front. Some hit it early, some hit it late, and many never hit it at all. It takes more than just a token degree of personal or emotional growth to be mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 12:38 AM
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As though older women don't have a lot to offer.... Plenty of men value maturity This is all very true. However its a reach to claim even most women over 30 come with maturity. I'm not picking on women here. Even many men over 30 fail in the maturity department. Sadly age=/=maturity for either side.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 12:09 AM
1

Their reaction was a bit of a "Wooosh" moment. Thanks for not letting me be the only one that noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 11:19 PM
1

And yet despite all of this movement in the direction that you and other women desire on the front of rape being accepted by both men and women, you still believe men should be treated with greater suspicion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 11:18 PM
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I'm sure that is all true. Hell, its true for me. But the fact that an event happened does not equate to it being common. If rape was common it would indicate that it happens with some level of normal frequency. Not once or on occasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 11:12 PM
1

That's just what my browser shows me when i look up the URL you said he looked like.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 11:09 PM
3

So you have a problem being human. Anyone with standards does.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 07:41 PM
2

Whether it’s your ego or something else, your want to be desired by your partner is fueled by instinct. It’s the default setting. Don’t shame yourself for that Thank you for having more sense and self-awareness than to be like this. This kind of thinking would justify no end of horror's. One should always keep their ego and natural impulses on a short leash and view any input from them with a great deal of suspicion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 07:40 PM
-1

I asked out my partner because I thought he looked like the bomb.com You asked him out because he was unclaimed and for sale? Seems like a low bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 07:31 PM
1

How do you justify claiming it's common? Compared to what exactly? What relativity are we using as a yardstick? Historically its likely at an all time low. So what comparison is being made when you claim its common?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 06:51 PM
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If our time scale stops at 50 years, then perhaps you have a point though i'm not entirely convinced of the accuracy of that claim. Rape was a far more common occurrence throughout most of human history. I doubt women were completely blindsided by the concept given its frequency in the past. To say its a common occurrence now, speaks to a relativity unheard of in previous era's.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 06:48 PM
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So the men who actively discouraged the activity throughout history count for nothing than. If that is the case, why should any man continue to discourage the practice? If we are only to be judged on the bad rather than the good we do, why do good at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 06:44 PM
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If rape is the reason for the distrust, and there is significantly less rape now, then you have less grounds for distrust based on rape as a justification. So what reasons do women justify more distrust as of now?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 09:14 PM
1

To what end?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 07:32 PM
1

The probabilities are not the basis for why people make these decisions. That is not how most people gauge risk. The fact that the greater sense of caution surrounds childbirth to the point where we keep doctors on standby in the event of childbirth proves what i am saying regardless of the actual probability of death occurring. If you were not a complete autist, you would understand what i am saying. The actual number of shark attack fatalities are quite low. That does not translate to most peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 07:25 PM
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It is sexist. I don't make the rules. I also don't shy away from reality simply because it reflects things i do not like. Not all of us have the luxury of fooling ourselves. As for whether i think women are capable of saying other truthful things, of course they can. I just wouldn't expect them to do so when it doesn't favor them. A property not limited to women. Not sure why you would suggest that women's emotional states are so limited. I do not believe they are any less nuanced in their compr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 06:35 PM
1

And yet despite the infrequency of giving birth, we treat the very rare event as though it is life threatening. Because even a single instance of that event is. We do not treat driving as similarly dangerous, because it simply isn't. If we did our sense of caution around it would see us driving with doctors in the passenger seat every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 06:25 PM
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Death rate only makes sense in relation to the number of times an activity is done. The opportunity presents heightened risk. Just because only a handful of deaths a year are caused by sharks, does not mean that sharks are safer to be around than your car.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 09:23 PM
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That's called honesty. If a woman is instead telling you anything you want to hear, they are lying. Most women utilize communication for the sake of manipulation. Not communication. It is their tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 08:32 PM
1

Do the death rates of women giving birth suggest everything was fine? Pretty sure they were much higher before doctors got involved. Which is why doctors became involved. We understood that giving birth is a potentially life threatening activity, beyond say the associated risks of going out to dinner or any other false equivocation people have been disingenuously throwing out as though they don't understand what is being stated rather than addressing the matter honestly, even with themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 08:23 PM
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Just curious but how does that square with the fact that a lot of convicted pedo's are subject to castration medication that gives them constant ED?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 12:48 AM
1

I don't believe those factors could apply under those circumstances since you have eliminated the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 12:36 AM
1

Yet their position was not to be childless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 12:34 AM
1

That equivalency makes lots of sense given how we tend to also have doctors on standby when we go to the restaurant as well. I know i never eat out without first setting up multiple meeting with doctors before every meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 12:10 AM
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It just means they want kids more than the continued assured survival of their spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 11:41 PM
1

Would you be willing to sacrifice yourself? Or if biology was reversed, would you be willing to sacrifice your SO?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 10:58 PM
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Death by birth is 100% guaranteed. Death by giving birth would likely be much higher if the average person gave birth as often as they got behind the wheel. It is not the act that determines your probability but the frequency.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 10:56 PM
1

I am curious. What exactly would you have been willing to sacrifice to have your kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 10:03 PM
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Because its completely disingenuous to make the claim that these other binaries carry an equivalent degree of comparable risk on both the do or don't side while the vast majority of pregnancies are resolved in hospitals. If they were comparable or equivalent, then we wouldn't be bothering with the hospitals in one situation, but not the other as a matter of precaution rather than only when those outcomes lead to a worst case scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 09:56 PM
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It could be. But in this case, that's like joining a mutual suicide pact where only one person is taking the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 08:56 PM
1

The entire point of government jobs is that they aren't governed by capitalism Lol.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/04/21 08:55 PM
1

No. It does not. Why would you assume something so reductive? My logic would dictate that they are making a change because they prefer to have their relationship in a different environment. Buying a house is generally not synonymous with life endangering activity the way pregnancy is. We do not usually transfer property deeds in a hospital.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 08:53 PM
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Actually yes. Every single one of these decisions are made for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 08:48 PM
1

Simple. By not having children, you are not creating more suffering in the universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 08:45 PM
1

Why is the argument always to resort to comparisons with completely different binaries that do not meet the same level of cause and effect, let alone motivation?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 08:41 PM
1

I'm sorry I overestimated your reading comprehension with concepts alien to your ability to consider.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/04/21 08:39 PM
1

Sorry. I was fairly sure we were discussing people's subjective views being at odds with the reality of the situation due to self-imposed psychological phenomena. My mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 08:38 PM
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The argument is a separate matter from women's desire to sacrifice themselves for offspring. The discussion i brought up is only about the intentions of fathers who agree or take action to intentionally impregnate women. But hey any excuse to through out the dreaded M word, as if that label has any value on this forum anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 08:35 PM
1

You obviously feel very strongly about your child. So would you be willing to see them sacrificed for a grandchild?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 08:30 PM
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Death is not the only risk associated with pregnancy. Though your point about choosing to risk yourself regardless of your husbands wishes is valid. In that scenario, he has no choice. So it cannot be said that he made the choice to risk your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 08:27 PM
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This only makes sense in a matter of comparing equivalent risks, which your shower example is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 08:24 PM
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No. Unintentional pregnancies happen and sadly not everyplace allows abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 08:23 PM
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Any field that suddenly has a mass influx of new workers will see salary's drop off. Teaching had been a male dominated profession for a long time. You take those already existing men and then add a ton of women who suddenly want in that field and of course pay will drop. That same scenario happened to what is now considered every female dominated profession. It's not some grand patriarchal conspiracy. It's just basic labor market economics.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/04/21 12:20 AM
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I would take a moment to really reflect on what it would require for the wage gap to entirely disappear given all of the variables regarding employment. Out of all of the various variables it would make it near impossible to mathematically have no wage gape between the genders without screwing over a lot of people with micromanaging all of our lives. If a 5% wage gap is unacceptable, it's pretty clear you only want equality or perhaps dominance for all of the wrong reasons.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/04/21 12:14 AM
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Just because you survived the birth, does not mean you were left unscathed. Your odds of having no increased risk from giving birth are still higher than had you not. Odds of osteoporosis as an example is significantly higher since the skeletal structure of your infant was leached from the calcium in your bones. That is a permanent weakening of your own skeletal structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 11:36 PM
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That is because people put their ego's(belief that they are special) in front of their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 11:32 PM
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I just find it silly you are telling other people that a man must not love them if they want to fulfil their biological impulse and reproduce with them. I too find it silly that i have to point out the obvious fact that biological impulses are not concerned with whether or not you have a loving relationship. Or that appeals to nature are a fallacy for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 11:31 PM
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Staying in the house also carries risk. There is no comparable risk between pregnancy and not being pregnant so this is a bad comparison to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 11:29 PM
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Correct. Both of them were willing to work towards different relationships that they felt were worth sacrificing their current relationship with each other for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 11:08 PM
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Perhaps to claim none is a bit extreme. However the circumstances that would allow for that would be far from typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 11:07 PM
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I could also die staying home. Either scenario carries risks between these 2 things. However it is not risky to not become pregnant compared to being pregnant and giving birth. And that is not taking into consideration all of the other less immediately fatal risks associated with pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 11:06 PM
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Even if we accept the premise that it is safer to stay in your home, which is debatable, is the task engaged in during leaving the house necessary? Because pregnancy is not necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 11:04 PM
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Risks are inherent in many things. And it makes sense to take risks when they are necessary. However there is nothing necessary about pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 11:02 PM
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There is risk in most things true. However what cannot be claimed is that it is riskier to not be pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 10:23 PM
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I hate to disappoint you in what you thought was some great "Gotcha" but as it turns out i do not drive. And part of my reasoning is for moral considerations. If i ever ran over a person or animal, I'm not sure i could live with myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 10:22 PM
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That is true. That would indicate that the woman herself believes that the relationship as it is, is not worth keeping and is willing to risk herself to change it because she loves her partner so little that she is willing to risk death to change the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 10:19 PM
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It means your partner finds you to be expendable in relationship to whatever reason they feel proud of you for being willing to expend yourself for. There is a calculus at play here that is disingenuous to ignore. Of course your partner could die leaving the house. They could also die in the house. The odds really don't favor the argument that you shouldn't let the person you love out of your sight ever. However what cannot be argued is that pregnancy does carry risks that would not exist otherw…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 10:17 PM
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A person who truly loves another would not then elect to subject them to any amount of risk unnecessarily that might risk losing them. No matter how small the chance. Besides the harm in childbirth is not limited to just dying. There are other more likely permanent harms that will result from giving birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:41 PM
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Because choosing to have children requires the taking of a risk that would see the relationship end. The willingness to make that choice implies that the relationship is worth sacrificing. Which means they don't love each other as much as they claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:37 PM
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That depends on what the intended outcome was in relation to the risk and if that outcome is necessary. Also death in childbirth while being an outlier is not the only risk your taking. Their are other various outcomes that have a good chance of harming the woman beyond simply dying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:34 PM
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"Let her guard down"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:32 PM
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If the person really loved the other, why take the risk with their life at all when its entirely unnecessary?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:31 PM
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So you have masked the pointlessness of your existence with circular reasoning. How exactly are your descendants benefited?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:16 PM
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The "love test" was failed when the child entered the picture. You cannot claim to love a woman and then risk her life in pregnancy when its entirely unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:14 PM
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He feels your life was something he was willing to risk to have a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:11 PM
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Maybe your feelings didn't change but consider that if your husband had any say in the matter, his decision was to risk the one person you think he loved for the possibility of a dead wife. Does that sound like the kind of decision a man who loved his wife would take?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:08 PM
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Not at all. Having the children comes with obvious physical risks to one of the partners. If they were content to love each other, they would see no need to take those risks. In fact it would be anathema to their feelings towards each other to take those risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:05 PM
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If they loved each other more, they would have been content to remain just them. Instead they chose to take the risk to have you unnecessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:02 PM
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How do you justify that outlook knowing that either the father was willing to risk sacrificing the mother to have those children or alternately the mother wasn't satisfied with the relationship she had without introducing more people into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:01 PM
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Completely agree. I have been saying for some time now that no one who chose to be a father loves the mother of their children. If they loved her, they would have never chosen to do something that risks the person they claim to love in this way. It's obvious that they simply view the mother as a means to their ends of having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 08:57 PM
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Maybe its due to ones own sense of self-awareness. Perhaps it is the result of being too self-aware. For example. the moment I accomplish something, that accomplishment is no longer impressive. After all, if even i can do it, it clearly cant be that difficult and the magic that allowed you to appreciate it is gone. "Loving yourself" or other forms of self-validation are just the result of low standards. So of course external validation will always count for more, especially if you find the objec…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 07:30 PM
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If your not insecure, your simply blind to all your own flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 05:30 PM
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Men lose attraction, lose respect, and even get scared off when they feel like women are pursuing them. Bullshit. Some men are the kind that get their self worth from their ability to pursue and attract like its some kind of score. However outside that, most men would kill for this. Women tell themselves the same thing you typed to justify being lazy and not having to take responsibility for the choices they would make in the men they would choose to pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:37 PM
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The concepts of market forces came from our own psychology. That which is common is less valuable to us and will be treated accordingly by most. For most women, male attention is so common as to be a nuisance. For most men, female attention is rare and so is highly prized.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 06:33 PM
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Because of the incentives. Divorce is often a financial benefit to women. As long as that is the case, why not treat men as disposable? Nothing to lose and everything to gain by this behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 05:45 PM
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I'm sure that is the case with some of them. However if the authorities here were so concerned with public urination, I wouldn't be seeing it so consistently from the local homeless population that seem to crowd our sidewalks and bus stops these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 05:29 PM
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Hadn't noticed the flair. My mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 02:32 PM
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Of course not. Many of us who live in crowded urban areas make it a point to not know or have anything to do with our neighbors. Though looking at the registered sex offender registry map, i have 22 of those living within a mile of me. And those are just the ones that were caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 05:57 AM
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Inevitably I'm sure some of them are or have at some point. But i live in a crowded urban area so its inevitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 08:45 PM
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Every single one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:51 PM
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Which aspect of this is not normal human behavior? Rape? Child grooming? Religious justification for dehumanizing others? Police corruption? Lack of accountability in favor of protecting illusions of competence? None of these things are what i would call novel.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:50 PM
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Starbucks needs employees.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:41 PM
1

Yes, but after eating the fat people. They will spoil faster while the vegans will continue to survive longer since they generally eat grass anyway and they wont have trouble maintaining themselves till after the fat people are exhausted. It just makes sense to eat the fatties before they get skinny from their own lack of food so you get more out of them. Once those are done we can resort to feeding on the all organic and natural free range vegans.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:37 PM
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Would the answer to this question change the answer to the question raised in the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 12:44 AM
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Was he also having sex with other women when he told you this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 07:50 PM
2

Looked into this claim. Seems that the last year that any organization collected this data was 2012. at that time gang related homicides accounted for about 13% of all homicides. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jan/09/philip-van-cleave/are-most-murders-gangbangers-killing-gangbangers-v/ Its a substantial amount, but no where near anything that would tip the scales in terms of this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:16 PM
3

And yet a man is at minimum 8-9 times more likely than a woman to be assaulted on the street. Men are also 5 times more likely to die of homicide. If the issue was really about size, then we would see a complete inversion of these numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 07:11 PM
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Do you consider yourself a good representative of all or even average men? because if the answer is no, than nothing you typed is relevant to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 08:34 PM
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If you find yourself alone and without allies, you have already failed at power.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 08:32 PM
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she would get killed because of the fragile ego of a man She would get killed because of her fragile body and lack of foresight in protecting said frail body.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:55 PM
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https://www.nber.org/papers/w23337
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:53 PM
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Men do not fear getting the shit kicked out of them as much because its normal for us to experience these things. Meanwhile women act like they live in constant fear of enduring any physical contact from a stranger to the point that it is the stuff of their nightmares. When it does finally happen, it then becomes this traumatic life affecting moment for the rest of their days.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:43 PM
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This is the problem with people constantly trying to redefine words. It sets you up for failure from the start. It's little more than a power play to try to force others to use the new definition. Which makes it clear to me that the point of this isn't to actually address any real injustice, but more to attempt to exercise power over others using an unrelated moral argument about what they claim to be really addressing, as a justification to shame or ridicule others who do not agree with the new…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:30 PM
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A lot of them seem to think they don't in fact do it for men. They do it for other women. Or so they seem to like to claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 12:34 AM
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Cease all reproduction. Put all current resources to the end of knocking the moon from its orbit and into the earth. Sterilize the earth of all life. End suffering forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 12:32 AM
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There is a difference between enjoying a fantasy and insisting on one. Though I'm hardly surprised that you are unable to understand that distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 11:08 PM
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Then they should have been even lazier and not posted at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 11:06 PM
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Men caring for other men does not come naturally. Deep down, most men would be quite happy to be the only man alive. Seeing value in each other takes time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 09:53 PM
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So should we continue then to base society around ambitious sociopaths because we cant have a utopia?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 09:43 PM
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That expectation is not limited to when they are grown up or not for boys. They will be expected to do so as soon as they are able. Whether it is when they are young boys expected to work in factories to contribute to support their families (despite the labor laws that are still rarely enforced on the matter), or grown up. The women in that society are only unwanted by the women themselves. It is the mothers who make and carry out their choice to kill their daughters. The one child policy itself…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 08:03 PM
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Women do not have the same relationship with reality that men do. Women prefer fiction. Even unpleasant fictions over the best of what reality has to offer. You have to accept a role for their benefit. They do not want the "real you". They want a fantasy. To men this is borderline contemptible and silly and more than a little pathetic. But this is what they want. No matter how silly or cliche.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 07:00 PM
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What would i call female children taking care of their husbands and families? Biological marvels to have survived childbirth at such a young age. Disposable cogs are very important to society. That doesn't make them any less disposable as long as they are replaceable. "Essential workers" are currently being reminded of this. Essential and important up till it comes to vaccine distribution. Suddenly despite being put in greater danger of exposure to infected people, they are being made to wait th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 06:34 PM
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Not every man is an overly ambitious sociopath. Many men would be quite happy with a simple life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 06:26 PM
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I see. So me and my gender should not see themselves as a part of it then. What can go wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 06:25 PM
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My problem is that i am not a big guy. Your right that they usually are cowards. It's unfortunately why they choose to go after me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 06:23 PM
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Would you believe walking down the street with earphones in trying to mind my own business and get from point a to point b. That is all it takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 09:59 PM
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It's not so much the sex itself. It's what it represents: Validation. Something the average men do not often get. For a woman to be willing to engage with us sexually and of her own free will is far more meaningful to us than most other forms of validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 09:57 PM
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So society = women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 09:48 PM
2

Maybe stick to twitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:33 PM
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If reading is difficult, perhaps you should stay on twitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:28 PM
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Men have universally been valued over women on a global scale and you only need to look at the one child policy to see what happens to baby girls if a choice has to be made of a son vs daughter. Just wanted to address this point. Seems you left out why. The reason the one child policy caused parents to select for sons, is because sons are expected to take care of their parents in their old age. They are selecting for a slave. Usually more for the sake of the mother after the father dies, seeing …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:26 PM
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For a lot of men, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:17 PM
2

It's entirely relevant to how disposable that man will feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:16 PM
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Many of the surveys that show 3/4 women experience sexual assault, tend to actually be including regular assault in order to arrive at this 3/4 statistic. What really caught me out of left field was not the way the study was attempting to dishonestly lump in regular assault with sexual assault in order to get a more headline catching statistic. It's the fact that the number of women who had at any point in their life been physically assaulted was so low. As a man i cant imagine the statistic of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:15 PM
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That is exactly it. Even slaves will complain much less if they have access to women. Men really are normally, this simple. Not all of us, but most.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:08 PM
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Because the existence of men is so competitive, It's a prisoners dilemma. For men to help each other simply widens the field of competition and works against us individually. It's why men do not have the same kind of in group bias that women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:03 PM
3

So the very thing you advocate is dumb?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:51 PM
3

I'm always shocked when they ever express wanting any.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 06:54 PM
2

But also, women are just way more attractive in comparison to men these days./s I'm assuming the /s was about how your statement implied there has ever been a time when men were more attractive than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 12:10 AM
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I am repulsed by my own dick. I don't get the appeal. I even feel guilty when i do have sex. Like i somehow did something manipulative or somehow messed up to convince a woman to have anything to do with that, afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 11:58 PM
2

If the side effects included shitting blood, i would still take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 05:34 AM
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I take it back. It's like using brown lipstick on a pig. The most marginal of changes. This is like being given the choice of eating shit, or shit with cheerios on top. I'm always shocked at how low womens standards are that they can look at a man in any state and not want to vomit. Hormones are crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:06 PM
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I suppose in strictly relative terms to how dogshit men normally look, this makes some sense. But this is the literal definition of putting lipstick on a pig.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 07:40 PM
1

How is that different from marriage, aside from the time scale?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 06:43 PM
6

become more attractive Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 06:42 PM
3

For men, financial success is not really the goal. It's a means to an ends. For women it is often the opposite. Sex for them is often the means to the ends of financial success. Our priorities are backwards from each other. Most men on the other hand would rather be poor and sexually successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 11:34 PM
1

I do realistic risk assessment. I don't avoid water because a handful of people drown every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 10:38 PM
1

I don't take any medication. And yes, i do lock the doors of my house. It beats avoiding houses entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 12:10 AM
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You can be afraid of men for whatever reason or lack of reason you decide on. I'm just pointing out that your rationale would require you to be far more afraid of other things outside of men to a far greater degree given their likelihood of killing you. If that wasn't the case than it would expose your dishonesty or delusion. And yes i do wear a seatbelt. Not out of fear of death, but rather financial penalty. I am old enough to have experienced riding in the bed of a truck with no seats, let al…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:38 PM
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By that logic, you must have already had a mastectomy then. After all, breast cancer has killed more than 10 times the number of women killed via homicide per year. And surely you would never be stupid enough to drive or even walk around outside seeing as your more than twice as likely to die in a road traffic accident. I applaud your risk management.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 10:21 PM
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Actually, it was the women entering these fields en mass that pushed men largely out of these fields in the first place. This sudden glut in the labor pool is what led to these fields becoming so poorly paid in part. Most men bailed from fields like teaching because they could no longer afford to support a family in that field on a salary that continued to dive as more women chose to enter that over saturated field driving wages down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 01:27 AM
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I'm happy then to not be wanted by the majority of women. Why should any man choose to spend their time outside of their jobs... on another job. Relationships should be fun and make you feel like you have an equal partner in life that has your back. If it's just going to be more enforced drudgery for yet another entitled asshole, you ladies can keep it. Frankly your not worth it. Yes it's easy to talk about the focus on power dynamics as A Man. As A Man I have not lived the experience of every m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 05:07 PM
3

Holy Hell. The insane focus on power dynamics/"value" is just all encompassing. You don't want a partner. You want a slave. And this is coming from a guy that once had a LTR with a dominatrix (Curiously, she also approached me). Can anything be romantic and not ruthlessly mercenary?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 11:30 PM
2

I'll give you a little insight on what typically does happen from the perspective of the friend of the guy that gets the attractive woman. What happens shortly after that happens is.... they go absent for a while. The friendships take a little bit of a back seat. And that's ok. In fact, i prefer that. Hopefully he found someone to make them happy and as their friend, i support that. Sure, when they do come back around they are hopefully happy and proud that they found someone who makes them feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 08:03 PM
1

It's more likely that the result would simply be rampant rape just as occurs with most of the other animals. We program women to have an interest in men and families so that we dont have to resort to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 07:33 AM
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This information was gathered in the context of a dating website. I'm pretty sure we can be confident that this is in relation to what men will date/fuck. Though it is a question of how much of a distinction between what men will fuck vs date is there, which will likely vary depending on the man. Though i suspect the bar for what a guy will fuck is likely lower compared to what they would choose to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 01:36 AM
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https://blogs.sas.com/content/sastraining/2014/10/16/how-do-men-rate-women-on-dating-websites-part-2/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:23 AM
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I suspect it has more to do with early brainwashing than any kind of organic desire. I don't think its by accident that we start socializing women pretty much immediately into wanting the idea of having a husband and family and wanting to find love. We deluge them with dolls and facsimiles of playing house and relationship desire in some form or another. Notice that we never have to do that with men, and so we don't. Because men are organically attracted to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 06:50 PM
1

Not on the aesthetic or attraction front. In utility, sure. But someone attracted to utility would be better served by fucking a machine. Which is exactly what most women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 01:44 AM
2

If women had such high standards, they wouldn't be dating men in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 10:38 PM
1

I have no love for male genitalia. Despite being unfortunate enough to be attached to it. It's is like everything else about men. Entirely repulsive. But i suppose men should be grateful you are willing to credit us to comparisons of plain yogurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 06:57 PM
1

I don't have to pretend anything. Cultural norms and expectations that i have experienced have affected me and those i have not experienced, have not. Just as i cannot take credit for what other people have accomplished, it would be equally disingenuous for me to pretend that I have experienced oppression that others where subject to while i was not. If I cannot live a life free of such oppression's than what was ever the point of stopping them from continuing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 06:42 PM
6

Plain yogurt isn't selling because of its taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 01:54 AM
5

So can women. Don't sell each other so short.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 01:52 AM
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I don't know where you gained genetic memory(yet curiously only from your female ancestors), but i have only lived and experienced my own life. The lives of other people that came before me, i cannot speak for. I am only myself. Though yes, speaking for myself, i have little appreciation for liars. But i have never experienced this dominance you speak of, so i cannot comment on that one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 01:49 AM
2

So women keep telling me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 01:28 AM
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Honestly even when that does happen, I'm still flattered on some level. It's not impossible to turn someone down and also be gracious about it. I at least make an effort to not turn her down in a way that's going to discourage her from trying again with someone else she likes latter. Just because I'm not into her, doesn't mean someone else wont be happy as hell to take her if she gives them the opportunity, because i didn't decide to be a jerk and traumatize her out of going for what she wants. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 01:17 AM
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Very true. In fact any sex shop will show that dildo's and vibrators are far outselling fleshlights and sex dolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 01:07 AM
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I'm not suggesting that men should not act with honor. I'm not at all offended by the idea that men should be held to standards of virtue. I would prefer we did. I do not subscribe to the idea that boys cannot help themselves. Frankly i find it insulting. The very idea that we can choose to be more than our instincts is what it is to be a man. If we cannot rise above our nature's than we are less than beasts, since we had the choice to be more and decided to be less. Many men do in fact prioriti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 12:54 AM
2

This might be the first comment i have ever saved intentionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 11:22 PM
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Are you such a low and pathetic being that dishonesty is the only position from which you have any advantage?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 11:14 PM
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I can't pretend i didn't just see the goal post shift. We were discussing dis/honor and dis/loyalty, and now you seem to have moved to physical abuse. And the focus moves from regular every day people to famous movie stars yet again. If women insist on seeing themselves as "ticking wombs", than why should any guy bother elevating himself over being a mere dick? If relationships between men and women are going to just be about renting each others crotches, then i can't be shocked that we treat ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 09:19 PM
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Older women focus way too much around power dynamics. Did i call it or what? Your focusing on the exception(movie stars, really?) to paint the majority. I can't speak for all men, so i won't pretend i do, but i also don't think I'm a unicorn. Personally I have so little interest in making everything about my life a power struggle. I already have to fight the world for everything else. I'm just too exhausted from that to want to come home and fight to control or manipulate the one person in my li…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 08:01 PM
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That's a hell of a non sequitur you chose to throw out at random. How is what you said related to anything I said? But I'll bite. What is it about sexuality that requires deceit? It's also weird how we went from complaining that men are less interested in fucking older women to them wanting to fuck every walking thing, which would also include older women. So which is it? Also, I dont recall anywhere where I claimed women having any sexual standards is disgraceful. I must have not been present d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 08:23 AM
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This isnt as universal as you seem to think. When I was last single, I intentionally tried to screen out women that were more than a decade younger than me. The options were depressing if I'm being honest. What I learned from that I suspect may have a lot to do with why older men go after younger ones. Older women tended to be incredibly defensive. Younger ones still seem to have at least a vague sense of romance. They dont immediately treat any man who is making an honest attempt to connect wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 07:40 AM
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Is that in and of itself somehow dishonorable? The fact that you view that as an example of dishonorable behavior only serves to illustrate how little you understand the concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 12:54 AM
3

Then we shouldn't be rewarding all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 11:11 PM
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It's the complete lack of any sense of honor or fair play that i think bothers me the most about women. A fact that they will then attempt to gaslight men about which only furthers my disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 11:06 PM
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So discretion isn't something managers have. I'll just assume that we live in 2 very different worlds when it comes to how companies are run. The CEO's are usually too busy to also do HR's job in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 08:05 PM
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You say that as if social power counts for so little. If that was the case, they would have never been successful, yet they were. Sure if men where the complete sociopaths that many believe, than it would have had no effect. However the result is the evidence that this is not the case for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 08:48 AM
1

Prohibition off the top of my head. Women have also utilized sex strikes to coerce men to get what women wanted politically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 08:31 AM
1

So in your world, the CEO is the one that shows up to fire people rather than delegating that role to the employees immediate supervisors. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 08:21 AM
1

The argument your advancing can just as easily be argued from the other side. In fact their is historical precedent for just such a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 08:19 AM
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Not even your employment? The very thing required to keep you fed and not homeless? That sounds like some pretty direct control over a persons life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 11:53 PM
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Underneath of all that it isn't hard to see the abusive that the person in question has clearly already endured resulting in those conclusions. This is the result of massive trust deficits. No one starts out like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 11:35 PM
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So the issue of why people vote the way they do should also be policed? This seems to be the implication here. That its not enough that everyone has the freedom to vote the way they choose, but we now should also police the why's of how they chose to vote? If we start down this road, I'm not sure i like where this will go since it seems like a very easy way to disenfranchise voters and shrink the franchise. Anyone think that anyone who has the power to make this judgement is going to be objectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 11:28 PM
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I did ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 05:29 PM
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Their build or face tattoo's dont rise to the standard of not being worthy of honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 12:48 PM
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The problem here is that by simply telling men interested in women, that they should just be nice, It's not encouraging them to bring anything else to the table. Of course the fact that many men are perfectly content to settle for a woman for the same qualification of her just being nice to them, it seems fair to them on the surface. The truth however is that women do expect far more out of men when it comes to relationship material, than what men expect from them. Some men eventually do catch o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 08:46 PM
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So what your saying is i should just go ahead and keep being trash. Done and done. I love solutions that require no effort on my part.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 07:59 PM
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How dare you bring empathy for other people into this. Your supposed to be cruel and self-serving at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 07:53 PM
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I really wish people were more concerned about being thought of as an idiot for giving useless advice, rather than mean for giving honest advice. The world would be a much better place as we could focus on real solutions instead of navel gazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 07:51 PM
3

I'll have to ask my mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 07:39 PM
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So a "nice guy" is like every woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 07:34 PM
2

Yeah, the meme is what came up since you referenced the feet part. What a rabbit hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 01:56 AM
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I suspect we can apply this to the concept of love as well. I have often been left with the impression that people have different ideas about what this word means, and don't seem to understand that the word doesn't accurately describe how they feel vs the person they are with feels when they also use the same term. The assumption when people hear their partner tell them they love them, they assume that it means they feel the same way about them that they do. I think this leads to a lot of mismat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 01:07 AM
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Priscilla's feet I had no idea what you were talking about so i made the mistake of looking it up. I can safely say "definitely not".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 12:41 AM
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By comparison aesthetically, yes. It's fairly obvious. Not even sure why you feel the need to even mention it. That said, my only issue is that women en mass seem to lack any sense of fair play or honor when dealing with men. Even if i see a creature as beneath me, i don't then think that justifies me adding to its misery unfairly the way women seem to feel entitled to do with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 08:49 PM
3

5 Minutes of sex? That's awesome. That's like.... 10 times. What a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 08:15 PM
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Yes. A long time ago, things were different. I'm not sure how that is relevant to modern circumstances, but sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 10:21 PM
5

Hell yes. I'm the greatest friend of all because i have no friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 01:51 AM
3

Men absolutely would still risk it. They already chance slavery, prison, financial ruin or even death for the sake of obtaining sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 01:39 AM
5

Men would just try harder to have 5 times the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 01:38 AM
3

Never do for free what you can be paid to do.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/01/21 12:54 AM
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Not enough.
/r/PussyPassDenied05/01/21 09:20 AM
15

It's only ok if you use money or perks.
/r/PussyPassDenied05/12/20 12:09 AM
2

Weird. I don't see him making the point that all people feel one way or the other about sex work. Strange how you took that out of the statement. It's almost like your emotionally compromised on the subject to the point where you lost all coherency behind what was actually being stated. I hope she/he sees this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 10:37 PM
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My mother was a sex worker. She lasted all of a month working at a Chuck E Cheese. Her streetwalking friends were not much better. See now we both have experiences we can use to claim that generalities made by other people are irrelevant. Isn't this fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 10:33 PM
2

Except that people don't tend to have much respect for people that just choose the easy way, exactly because its easy and common and does nothing to distinguish one among the masses.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 10:30 PM
1

I take a sand shower like in Tank Girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 05:43 PM
1

Yes. The less successful ones. Do your part in being successful and wipe your ass. Only losers run around with a wet ass. Otherwise you just make it look like you pissed your pants from behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 11:39 PM
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Why would it matter if any of those things were being done to them by the opposite sex, rather than having them done to them by the same sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 07:03 PM
1

Why would you assume that his friendship is some kind of gift?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:29 PM
-1

Abortions are the 2nd best thing that can happen, next to a miscarriage. They should be mandatory.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/10/20 11:55 PM
-1

I hope to change this one day.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/10/20 11:54 PM
1

While there is an urgency to obtain that sense of release, there is also a desire to see and hear a similar relief to the other party that is a large perhaps even bigger part of the motivation as well. The interest is not entirely selfish either. Though perhaps that isn't 100% universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 06:21 PM
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If you were a woman, you would need to be out of your mind to actually want to sleep with a guy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 10:52 PM
1

I think its unlikely that you or him could make the case definitively either way. He was just pointing out that your example is not an illustration of the point your trying to make as it relies on shared priorities that men do not generally share. Celebrating birthdays are seen as a fairly narcissistic affair to most men. If anything its just a reminder of our dwindling time left and almost a messed up thing to rub into another persons face in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 09:04 PM
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How is it dishonest? If i refer to someone as a manchild, how likely are you going to know the negative characteristic i am referencing in regards to that person? It's such a general statement, that it's just not that useful or predictive. It's like calling some one an asshole. It's less a description of their offense and more of a description of how i feel about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 11:34 PM
2

Every man can be defined as a man child. Women claim the term for different reasons so its not very useful as a description.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 10:35 PM
2

It is. Sadly we have no way of knowing what the honest reason is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 09:12 PM
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So your making a claim on divinity based on what? What puts you above every other biological machine on this planet? Your fragile self-identity can be altered by a simple mechanical, electrical, or chemical malfunction in your physical form. As it happens all throughout your life and will continue till the point where the last ebb of electrical current singes your quickly drying out brain matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 06:54 PM
1

My apologies. Got my threads crossed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 06:44 PM
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The power dynamic was not the point of the analogy in question. It was an illustration of standards and expectations being inconsistent. It's sadly telling that you immediately jump to conclusions about "power dynamics". How pitiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 05:48 PM
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We are all soulless machines. You have had plenty of time in this existence to become desensitized rather than offended by reality. Get over yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 05:40 PM
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Of course they are. They have far more reproductive control than anyone else involved. Men are in positions of comparatively limited choice in contrast in both situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 08:58 PM
1

They made it a point to choose irresponsible men. They were in the position to make choices based on an array of options and they selected for a man who would leave. Even if the man falls off the map and or otherwise doesn't pay, they still collect a check from the government to finance their decision. As for men doing the same, the paychecks tend to be rare or comparatively small enough in those rare cases, that no man would even bother including that in their decision making calculus.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 08:11 PM
1

That's pretty self evident. Single mothers are illustrating that they personally prefer a check. Those that are not are demonstrating that they prefer having the father in their and in their child's lives. It's not complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 07:29 PM
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I stand behind what i wrote. I didn't provide any information that implied otherwise, just as i didn't provide any data on my emotional state. You have this habit of making large jumps to conclusions based on data that isn't being displayed, but instead assumed by you. All while accusing others of projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 06:34 PM
1

Where do you pull this data from?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 12:32 AM
1

One can be learned by observing behavior in light of circumstances. Inferring emotional beliefs based on a couple lines of text online is a whole other level
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:51 PM
0

Maybe if they weren't on so many anti-depressants they could suicide properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 08:41 PM
5

And they are not wrong either. The average person isn't exactly a genius. And half the people are even less intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 08:31 PM
1

That is news to me, but i suppose you being an internet stranger, you must know more about my beliefs than i do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 07:35 PM
3

So we are no longer to be defined or valued for our actions and behaviors. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 08:21 PM
0

They do not love in the way men understand the concept. For women love is a feeling not a decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 08:02 PM
2

I'm not sure where you get the idea that signing up for selective service is "voluntary". The penalties can still include prison time (up to 5 years) as well as a fine(up to $250,000). You can be denied financial aid and lose access to many government contractor or employment opportunities. You will also be denied any security clearances. Some states have even updated the penalty in more recent years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:57 PM
-1

Why would you assume i post this out of anger?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:44 PM
-1

Womens relationship with men has always been exploitive. There really is little in there that women do not and cannot get from other women. And a caring father isn't worth as much as that check that they have to send you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:00 PM
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Biology is a nightmare factory. If the bar for human behavior is biology, then we should probably just get on with slaughtering each other again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:56 PM
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Both of these dynamics can also be explained by their own personal experiences. For example with being comfortable with women in positions of authority, it could largely be because of their own experiences up to that point with dealing with female authority figures. Lets say 10% of people cannot handle being in a position of authority responsibly. Over the course of their adolescence they have experience being taught by various teachers, most of which are women as previously established. If they…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:51 PM
3

I think men are really misunderstanding women here. Less attractive men, is not a problem for them. If they don't attract an attractive man, they they will simply go without and be content in doing so. They simply don't feel the drive to bond with a man as strongly or as desperately as men feel the desire to bond with them. To women, nothing here is really bad news.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:38 PM
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Weird. I provide an example of what they claim to be looking for and rather than accept it, you make a bunch of irrelevant appeals for why it shouldn't count rather than accepting that it is exactly "what men are required or forced to do that women are not". OP said nothing about whether or not it had to exist at point a or b in relation to feminism. OP said nothing about where it had to stand in relation to women having the choice to do the same themselves. OP said nothing about where it had to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:29 PM
10

Actually.... https://www.economist.com/europe/2017/06/01/who-gets-into-more-wars-kings-or-queens
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:23 PM
23

Register for selective service just off the top of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:20 PM
2

He has a reason. He finds their faces ugly. Are you not paying attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 05:41 AM
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He is in the right. He didn't put it on her to offer anything in terms of payment. She chose to offer on her own. And then him being willing to allow it, being painted as in the wrong, is ludicrous. She decided that rather than being a honest human being looking for a presumably honest relationship with another human being, to instead play dishonest and disingenuous games. What kind of moron thinks that dishonest actions will lead to honest ends? She demonstrated that she is of no relationship v…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:49 PM
1

It’s actual state law is what is being discussed. ...Yeah...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 11:41 PM
1

Umm, this is legislation passed to add to the existing California code, which is ...law.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 10:32 PM
1

What do you think legislation is?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 10:06 PM
1

Sacrificing college education and the thousands of dollars involved, is not exactly no penalty. You must live an incredibly privileged life to write that off so casually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 06:20 PM
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That's true. College campuses are not courts of law. Though they are subject to regulation. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB967 While it is true that this does not necessarily lead to a criminal conviction, it is not without penalty. And there are efforts to take it out of educational institutions as well: https://www.city-journal.org/affirmative-consent
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 05:56 PM
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So far: Colorado, Illinois, New York, and Connecticut have statewide policies. Many other states have it based around college campuses for some reason. The idea that we would have different standards on what is legal or illegal based on different groups of adults in this way has never made a lot of sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 07:48 PM
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Different jurisdictions have different standards on whether or not consent is considered default or not. More and more places are adopting the need to prove affirmative consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 06:29 PM
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What this is evidence of, if anything is that 1/3rd of women are willing to admit to being the kind of women who will use men for food.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 06:50 PM
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It's Schrodinger's consent at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 06:31 PM
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Where a person is prevented from resisting by any intoxicating or anesthetic substance, or any controlled substance Is not the same thing as incapacitated. Though incapacitated would also be included in this description. Simply being sufficiently incoherent wold be enough to qualify. Unfortunately the only one who's word on the matter will make any difference in either direction will be the woman's. If she decides you go to prison for this, you likely will. Basically, its only legal to have sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:58 PM
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(3) Where a person is prevented from resisting by any intoxicating or anesthetic substance, or any controlled substance, and this condition was known, or reasonably should have been known by the accused. I know its a longer way of implying drunk, but there you go. Keep in mind of course that the determining factor of whether or not the claim can be made about the intoxication "preventing them from resisting" is merely an affirmative claim of such on the part of your "victim".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 08:21 PM
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You mean like Epstein(Suicide lol)? Or Saddam(semi-public execution)? Or Qaddafi(Drone striked his car and was then dragged from car by a mob and sodomized and disemboweled with a knife by said mob). Yep, these guys at the top sure get off light.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 08:11 PM
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https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/penal-code/pen-sect-261.html
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:52 PM
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States such as high value or low value are not final unmovable positions for people. History is full of people that rose and fell from their initial positions. Many people who are not great, have greatness thrust upon them. And many people born to greatness, fall hard eventually fall. The french revolution is one of the more famous cases of men at the bottom taking out those at the top. And its hardly the only such case. People and resource are not mutually exclusive. Also true with the relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:20 PM
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I hate to break it to you, but women are a resource. Just not in the way they want to think of themselves as. One that will still be of some limited utility even when most men are not. You can keep saying this or that is ridiculous, but all your doing is demonstrating your historical illiteracy. If you think men required "good reasons" to destroy civilizations, your kidding only yourself. Men have destroyed nations for far less.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 12:07 AM
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It's funny your sources never have anything to do with a sexless issue and often include areas that are far less liberal. Most of the worlds population does not live in liberal countries. Also its pretty naive to imagine that slaves are not being sold for sexual uses. It's not the war part, women should be concerned with. It's the aftermath as i already laid out. Which Libya is also a fitting example of.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:35 PM
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Revenge porn? I have no horse in this race. I suspect that i will be a slightly more feeble old man who this situation will likely also kill. And what do you mean going back to raping and pillaging? We never stopped. A fact that shows that we certainly have not evolved past it. Much of the world is still defined by barbarism. And those parts of the world have become more numerous as of late, rather than shrinking. Take a trip to Libya. They were the wealthiest nation in Africa just a decade ago …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 08:06 PM
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You seem really attached to the idea that society will continue as it is with simply different players in different roles. That is not the likely outcome. There will not be air conditioned office jobs in the aftermath of this event where women can simply push papers around. The concept of a middle class will not be applicable to our futures. It will be closer to feudalism if we are lucky. The conquests of the Assyrian empire would be a good starting point to learn the future. Cats will be a food…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 05:57 PM
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That depends on which side gets the upper hand as to who gets genocided. But the reordering of any kind of society afterwards is what will see the ambitious women lose out in the end no matter who wins. If the larger number of men that society does not benefit win out, then life is going to get pretty desperate as the winners fight to fill the power vacuum and decades of brutality will follow. Another dark age where everyone scrapes a meager existence from the leftovers of our current society wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:39 PM
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Mass slaughter and genocide most likely. Probably carried out by the few haves that will be left in response to attempting to quell the have not's. Men created evil. It's naive to think they wont revert back to it as soon as what they want is threatened. Most of human history is an illustration of this. We just like to pretend otherwise since we were lucky enough to inhabit this small slice of time, where we set about attempting to demonstrate it less.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:12 PM
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I think it would be a fatal mistake to believe that men will universally accept the fate of wasting away. Some will. But the day that men decide en mass to actually compete with women, will not be a great day for women. Particularly when they choose to not abide by the rules or standards of our modern civilization in doing so. And what incentive would they have to hold those standards that do not benefit them in pursuit of their goals? And who would be able to enforce those standards on them? It…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 10:35 PM
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Men left in this uninvested position in society will also be quick to burn that society down and actively work towards its destruction as long as the feel the society does not benefit them personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 07:26 PM
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I think there is some merit to this train of thought. I have always thought it was odd how we seem to actively program women to want children and a husband to obtain a family. Yet we don't do the same thing for boys. In fact boys in many cases are actively put off from the idea of playing house choosing to instead pursue other more seemingly "heroic" activities and fantasies. Yet upon puberty , the priorities of boys change drastically to the point where despite all previous interests, suddenly …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 06:49 PM
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Disappointing that we have come such a small distance. But your probably right. I'm just constantly baffled by how people can have this mechanism of such great potential, and completely waste it no matter how much it could benefit them. Especially in matters that should be of such great importance to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 11:38 PM
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I don't think there's an overt plan like that on her side. Every time i see some variation of this, i struggle to interpret this in any other way other than an admission that women are not self-reflective and lack self-awareness. For example with the cold-shoulder behavior, i do it myself, but I'm self-aware enough about it to have a conscious rationale for doing so. I tend to back off out of respect for their relationship. I don't want to be a contributing factor for why a couple that includes …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 10:24 PM
1

So its better to have friendships with people based on the false premise that your single?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 07:34 PM
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Even recognizing it as emotional manipulation still shows their intent to have as little to do with us as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:40 PM
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Congratulations. I have no cookie to provide you in celebration of your already good fortune.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 09:38 PM
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Possibly true. Though i'm not so certain i could ever make such claims myself about those around me at any given time. Rapists for some reason don't seem to advertise this fact about themselves and i make no claim on omniscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 09:36 PM
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Not just rapists, Though rapists will be mostly included in that group. Most rapists have to overcome concern about a great many things to become rapists, so being called "creepy" is a pretty minor hurdle for them. Most other men do understandably have little interest in obtaining that title.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:40 PM
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I'm in my 40's and this isn't just on millenials. This cultural issue didn't just begin at the generational cut off point. The shift was already being established before i was born. I grew up watching this get more extreme as time went on. But this attitude towards boys in regards to women is all i have ever known throughout my entire lifetime. And those of us raised in the 80's and early 90's at least were not really raised to be special. We were the latch key kids. We were the last kids that p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:39 PM
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The current generation of men have been raised constantly being told that women want very little if anything to do with them. Raised on a deluge of shame over having shared the same sex as their ancestors, who we have all been lead to believe, treated women horribly. The effect on men and boys raised in this way is that they don't want to add to the problem so most of them leave women alone because they don't want to be seen as a monster. The ones that don't tend to react in this way tend to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 08:32 PM
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If that is all that your able to be attracted to, why would you waste your time on anything less than that? I've never been with anyone i didn't find attractive at the time. I'm not sure why anyone would expect to be successful with someone they are not attracted to. It's not like they wont eventually figure that out and then the relationship will death spiral as they get increasingly insecure and you give up the charade.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 07:14 PM
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Explains why they initiate divorce so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 11:37 PM
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If my intention was to demonize mothers, this would be pretty far back in an incredibly exhaustive tome of reasons to despise mothers. There is not a single misfortune that exists in the world to befall us that is without the hand of mothers being involved. In a just world, all women who chose to be mothers would be publicly tortured for as long as we can prolong such an existence for the harms their decision caused. This before being executed by the children they harmed the most by creating the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 07:53 AM
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I think it might be a bit of a leap that both these kids are treated identically simply because they live in the same household and are around the same people. Family and sibling dynamics are rarely that cut and dry. I know that I was definitely not treated the same as my own siblings. While it's not something necessarily said openly if at all but parents do have preferences among their children and treat them accordingly despite what may be their best efforts to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 08:29 PM
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Men do in fact see themselves as expendable and comparably worthless. Society demands it. In any situation where danger or risk of danger is present men are expected to sacrifice themselves for those of other groups. It is only after the necessary actions are taken to secure the welfare of others are then men allowed to see to themselves. A man that is unwilling to do this is shamed for being a coward and is not regarded as a real man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 12:34 PM
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I have already provided the more relevant and up to date data on this exact subject and it makes it rather clear that it is not 50% of parents who receive child support payments. It is 69.3%. Your citing a book published almost a decade ago and uses data from years prior to the date of publishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 06:38 PM
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Your "source" is out of date by about 2 decades. Mine merely 5 years. And yes, my source does show that the custodial parents don't always receive full payment. A fact that takes nothing away from any statement i highlighted. If 100% of custodial parents did not receive full payment, that would do nothing to negate that 69.3% are receiving payment that is not counted as income in the form of child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 10:04 PM
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Inaccurate. 69.3% do as of the 2015 census data which is the most recent data collection on the subject. Unless you have a more reliable data set, in which case, by all means, citation please. https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2018/cb18-tps03.html#:~:text=Highlights%20from%20the%20report%3A,custodial%20fathers%20(39.6%20percent)..)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 08:51 PM
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They are recorded as living in poverty because Child support payments are not counted as income. Same with most welfare. It distorts the picture more than a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 07:30 PM
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If women believe that most men feel differently about the importance of their orgasms, then women are clearly not as supportive and accepting as you claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 09:02 PM
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Sure they do. They just have more sex with more people/objects in the process of gaining that similar number of orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 08:44 PM
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Men have the misfortune of being able to orgasm from even bad sex. Honestly a male orgasm isn't so great that it makes up for our feelings of inadequacy as lovers. It often leaves us feeling like our own bodies have betrayed us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 08:33 PM
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That's true. Women have much more intense and sometimes multiple orgasms on occasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 08:25 PM
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Over time it will lead to the end of all of our modern problems since too many people is ultimately at the root of every issue we have.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 05:46 PM
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Traits and personality, yes. Accomplishments... not so much. The accomplishments are not a negative, they just are not what will usually attract a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 10:05 AM
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Its saying all the things you base your worth on, are not what make you valuable to others. It's the same for everyone. We all would like to be valued for the things we put effort into, but it's often not those things that others like about us. Rather it's often the behaviours that are simply natural to us that matter more to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 09:59 AM
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Only if you want to waste your time. The kind of person who would be honest with you is going to be the type of person who will be up front with that information themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 05:45 PM
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Nature is full of competing systems. As it turns out when it comes to civilizations, those civilizations that practiced monogamy dominated those that did not. This reality has proven that civilizations that did raise children as a village were inferior and at the mercy of those that did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:50 PM
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I can understand the objection. It's certainly not something i would do myself. But i also realize that there is a message given to a lot of guys in media about how persistence is expected from us. The fact that many women subscribe to "rules" about how they should initially interact with a guy even if they like them. Rules that basically amount to giving women this air of plausible deniability and feigning disinterest. It creates a really poisonous dynamic between the 2 groups. So i'm not surpr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:39 PM
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It can be painted to look creepy but so can just about anything a man does that expresses interest in a woman. It's why a lot of guys just don't bother. But if you have seen how light on any actual details about a person a tinder profile often is, and how not very engaging women are when it comes to messaging, it does kind of make sense to investigate for more information if you are interested in a girl. That way you can actually have something to work with for the inevitable awkward conversatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 08:45 PM
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I'm not sure its correct to dismiss the answers if they do in fact answer the question simply because they are not the answers we are hoping for. It seems fairly obvious from the answers that the reason is a reaction to how they believe they are treated and dehumanized. Sure it's easy to see it merely as a whine, but that reaction kind of makes the point for them. The truth is that men aren't exactly above dehumanizing each other. So when women come along and demand to not be treated the same wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 05:35 PM
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No. I just typed it. I could have used a more extreme level of verbiage instead if that is your issue, but i'm unfortunately having to learn to adapt to tip toeing on eggshells to not get banned off of every social media platform. Rule 2 on this very forum for example may be used to justify my removal otherwise. Your issue should not then be with me but the forum moderators.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 08:47 PM
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Why do you value your ability to lie so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 07:42 PM
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I cant pretend to speak for all men or even be what would be considered an adequate representation. But in my own mind, i do not tend to trust male cheaters anymore than i do female ones. My calculus of them is that if they can lie to and betray the person they claim to love, how much better can me as someone they do not love expect to be treated. Certainly i cannot expect to be treated with any more honour.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 07:37 PM
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If you ever have to wonder why your lies aren't working, it is because your giving something away with your actions or lack of. That and you can only get caught lying once before they tend to be less effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 07:32 PM
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In order for reality B to be correct, we would have no choice but to concede that women are so stupid and so far away from being the equal of men that it would be insulting to humanity to include them in any capacity, beyond being just another animal that humans exploit, just in this case for the purpose of sex and breeding. Personally, i do not believe that this is the case. I just cannot accept that any human over the age of 12 can be this naive and ignorant of the reality they had bore witnes…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 06:49 PM
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That question would imply that women are ever straight. Certainly you cant be this naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 06:37 PM
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I've provided you with sources. You then tried to claim they didn't say what they said so i had to go back and forth quoting the study over and over again. Your only defense has been pedantry. If you cant in your own head link how divorce or relationship breakdown might lead to suicide, without needing it spelled out for you in study after study, and then still cannot even when such studies are provided, then i will just have to concede you are to dense to understand and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 08:13 PM
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There are a whole list of references on the page. Bottom right hand side. Also you seem really set on pining the explanation provided strictly on divorce. Which isn't at all the point. The point is relationship breakdown of which divorce is only one type of, and its impact on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 07:49 PM
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There is definitely a distinct difference between committing suicide and being suicidal. "This evidence was strongest where the dependent variable was completed suicide." And again, you have claimed that divorce is the main reason men commit suicide and all you’ve provided is that men are more suicidal after a divorce. Yes it makes complete sense for these things to have no relationship with each other. Pure coincidence I'm sure. Yet somehow you accuse me of doing crazy gymnastics. In order to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 07:06 PM
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Are you trying to claim that beyond some official legal status there is some other great distinction between these 2 things? Such that would indicate a complete disconnect in motivation between these 2 things in regards to suicide. My point was in regards to relationship breakdown. Your pointing out a distinction without a difference. Also: But then on page 17 we have: "However, the weight of the reviewed studies would seem to tentatively support the view that men are at greater risk of suicide …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 06:29 PM
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It's quite easy to take data points and draw conclusions about the data for most of us. If we know that the relationship breakdown is most often do to relationship breakdown. and one of the 2 genders is committing suicide at a far greater rate, than the conclusion is pretty obvious. Even if the percentages of people killing each other for the same reasons where the same across both genders, it would clearly show that far more men are killing themselves then over relationship breakdown than women…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 05:50 PM
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https://orca.cf.ac.uk/68550/1/Suicide%20Gender%20and%20Relationship%20Breakdown%20by%20Evans%20Scourfield%20and%20Moore.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 09:25 PM
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I've long held the opinion that mothers are the font of all that is wrong with the world. We take out all of the mothers and the problems solve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 08:14 PM
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Have any data on this because my data seems to indicate that its primarily women who seem to take the larger interest in child care. Not that I'm saying your wrong. However i don't recall having a lot of teachers growing up who seemed interested in being "pick me's" or "people pleasers". Not that my own anecdotal experience should amount to actual data. Though if the data is true about most child care professionals and those with custody are women, then I'm not sure what men are expected to do a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 07:40 PM
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Easy, we look at the situations that most often lead to men killing themselves. What's that? Why it's divorce. I wonder how that might be relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 07:29 PM
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And who is raising these women to be this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 07:27 PM
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I wasn't. I was comparing the men killing themselves with the men who kill women. Not the ones who don't kill women. Obviously the vast majority of men do not kill women or themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 07:03 PM
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Divorce is a thing still, right? I'm just wondering how low we need to place the bar of action to compensate for women's seeming inability to take any action on their own behalf. I'm perfectly willing to see women as equals to men, but at some point they really need to make an effort to perhaps try in some tiny capacity to actually be equal. At a certain point you can't blame people for infantalizing a group of people if their ability to take action and responsibility for their own lives is goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 06:59 PM
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Which i assume will take a bit to go over and even more to convince them to go through with it. And that is time that the man in the situation is going to figure out whats up and that's probably not going to end well for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 06:51 PM
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To respond to that position then one only has to look at the number of male suicides vs women homicides. The data released in 2018 for the US shows that men committed 36,779 suicides, while women where killed in a total of 3,986 homicides. So men are 9 time more likely to kill themselves than kill a woman. And that's assuming that every single one of those homicides was done by a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 06:46 PM
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Probably just looking at the actual murder numbers and who is murdering and killing who In what numbers. Men kill men at a incredible rate that the rate of men killing women is paltry by comparison to. Seems despite how much easier it is to kill women compared to killing other men, men still prefer to kill other men. These means either that men in fact do value the lives of women more than they do men... or men just prefer a challenge. Of course if it's that they prefer a challenge than I would …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 05:18 PM
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That's hilariously retarded. Congratulations dude. Now she gets money from you for the next 2 decades and has no incentive to put up with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 05:06 PM
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My question about this is, what then happens? A woman shows the symbol or tells the staff that she is, what then? Unless it can be proven in some way, how is the claim in itself actionable?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 05:03 PM
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Do i get points for just their participation trophy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 11:42 PM
1

What if the trophy is for "World's Greatest Rapist"? Should we instead try to compete for that one? Since you seem to think that we all all obsessed with trophy's for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 11:31 PM
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So if giving women rights and protections is not doing good, then by what standard are you owed either rights or protection? Because at this point you seem to think your simply uniquely entitled to them in a way no other creature on earth is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 04:35 PM
2

Honor is useful for maintaining a reputation, But that reputation has to be for something. Even if it is merely to demonstrate that ones word has value and that you can be trusted to keep it once given. One who's reputation has been destroyed, rightly or by being wronged, can still be Honorable despite whatever reputation they may have. It can also be what allows you to build a reputation. But honor is much more than that. Ones reputation is simply an outgrowth of how you are seen by others, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 11:43 PM
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I think this speaks to a fundamental difference between men and women. Men don't want to die, but they don't fear being killed or assaulted the way women seem to. To a woman being physically at the mercy of another persons brutality seems to rank highly among things that they fear. For many men this circumstance is simply a common reality that they endure every week or so. The fear gets deadened after enough experiences of it and i grew up with it as did many men who had the misfortune of living…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 11:16 PM
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Violent, sure. Immoral... that would be a hell of a claim. I mean honor is largely considered a masculine virtue by which we acknowledge our natural tendencies and set up a moral framework to hold ourselves to a standard lest we become selfish or violent animals. Women seem to treat manipulation as a natural right by contrast.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 10:58 PM
2

Ah the dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 07:20 PM
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I don't doubt you have had poor lovers. But that isn't the same thing as what I'm saying. Sex is, like most things in life, something that can be developed as a skill. And in some cases, you will have those naturally gifted or talented at it. There isn't much reason or incentive to improve on something however in the context that your existing in. What possible reason could a man have for choosing to put said effort into sex with you? Are you going to turn down the money over it? Obviously not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 10:11 PM
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Exactly. There is literally nothing about seeing blood in a school boys restroom floor that would have even been seen as unusual. We do get into fights after all, and often go the bathroom after to try to clean up. Assuming the fight wasn't in the restroom itself.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/06/20 09:25 PM
1

Holy Hell. I would have gotten the shit kicked out of my for doing that by 5.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/06/20 09:22 PM
1

If you have to clean your penis, then that performatively defines your gender as a man. If you have to be careful to not wipe back to front, you have performatively defined your gender as a woman. Glad we settled this.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/06/20 09:15 PM
2

Time isn't a motivator in and of itself. He's still paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:48 PM
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As an escort I certainly see why some men may have dead bedroom. They let themselves go and are terrible lovers. I can see why their lady has lost sexual attraction to them. No offense, but do you honestly believe a man is going to put that much effort into sex that they are paying for? He's already paying you for sex so why would he be trying to impress you with his "lovemaking skills". Besides by the time a man is driven from his wife to sex with an escort, he is likely to be fairly out of pra…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 06:53 PM
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I can insert any uncalled for and unrelated event to change the circumstances. Why would we just assume that happened? As for personally, yes i have had had people ghost me. And no i have never solicited someone for sex or sent them unwelcome pictures. That kind of behavior is beneath me and I've never understood why men engage in it. Or at least i didn't until it was proven to me that this approach seems to work for quite a few men. Which is why other men do it. i still cant bring myself to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 11:23 PM
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I'm not sure what men sending unsolicited pics or propositions has to do with ghosting someone. It's a separate issue entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 09:30 PM
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I can also state that no internet stranger has any obligation to nor ghost you. Why is it an acceptable standard that we take no responsibility for wasting another persons time? What benefit do we gain by allowing or encouraging this. I don't think this is a good road to encourage among us socially. To me it looks like a big step towards a general breakdown in civility. What benefit justifies this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 07:36 PM
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Didn't a woman marry a train station?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 08:59 PM
1

An unworthy means to an unworthy end.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/06/20 04:21 PM
2

People often need a reason to not cheat rather than a reason to cheat. Most people are this kind of trash sadly.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/06/20 04:22 AM
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Utterly pathetic applies just as much there too.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/06/20 04:08 AM
2

That is because people are not blind to all the opportunities they are granted by mere circumstance of being born a certain sex or race. The person may be very hard working and competent but if people know they were given an unfair advantage in getting where they are, they will rarely be seen as having actually worked for it, and treated accordingly. This is the problem with any kind of affirmative action. These policies are incapable of changing how people see the circumstances even if they do …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 07:21 PM
2

Everyone does.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 06:55 PM
43

If you only hate 50% of the population, your far too optimistic about people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 08:08 PM
1

Pretty sure that i was agreeing with you. From the perspective of a heterosexual male who finds all men, including myself physically repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 08:05 PM
1

Different people are good for different tasks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 08:00 PM
1

Your not wrong. Personally, i am convinced that if women were rational beings without hormones convincing them to want us on occasion, this race would have rightfully died out long ago. Tragically, that is not the case and we are here now. To my thinking, feminine lesbians who are only attracted to other feminine lesbians are the only sane women when it comes to sexuality. A woman who chooses to sleep with a man is illustrating a profound misunderstanding of their own value and is settling for r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:00 AM
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It would by definition, be impossible for them to be fuckboys if that was true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:17 AM
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Try using some reason. At least make the argument from a principle and maintain that position. No one cares if your offended. Make an actual argument. It can be informed by your experience, but your experience in and of itself is not an argument. Even if it was it would just be countered by anyone else's experience of the opposite. Calling people bad people doesn't make any difference to anyone else. Ot just comes off as a pathetic attempt at virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:51 PM
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If your expecting attempts to shame to be effective when dealing with men, your going to have a bad time. Men don't really care that much about the personal judgement of strangers. To care about something so worthless would be seen as pathetic and beneath us.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 07:38 PM
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So you suggest that a person should be willing to make investments and sacrifices for someone else who will abandon them on a whim, just to appear less boring to you? Forgive my impertinence but I value my time and energy to some extent. We only have one life and I'd rather not just throw it away for the sake of entertaining bystanders. I wouldn't expect other people to waste their lives either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 06:14 AM
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Yes. I've also had relationships. More than I should have.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 06:09 AM
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That early stage seems like the easiest point to be the most rational. Your not clouded by pre-existing history.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 10:58 PM
1

Do they? Are people really so irrational towards something they put that kind of effort into? I mean if that's true than it seems like the greatest reason ever to never bother with relationships. Relationships take work and sacrifice. Why do that if there is a good chance that the other person will just abandon it on a whim?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 10:31 PM
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Let her have this. If this is true in her world she would have to understand that she has no concept of what character is. And she clearly can't handle that. This is what too many years of nothing but positive reinforcement from "friends" on social media and guys trying to get laid and treating her well only because of that, does to a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 09:23 PM
1

Who lit this dumpster fire?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 09:19 PM
1

So was anyone else able to read this with a straight face?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 09:18 PM
0

It's annoying. Sometimes just straight up obnoxious. The opposite however is much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 09:11 PM
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Imagine if every time you discuss your research or artwork and people’s only response is “wow she’s pretty AND smart” instead of listening to what you have to say? Imagine talking about current events with a guy and having him just say how cute you are instead of actually treating you like a human being? Imagine your gender talking 15% of the time in class while men speak 85% yet being perceived as talking equally? All of these things that your complaining about are at times preferable to the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 09:00 PM
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Women don’t have some sort of hivemind that tells them what men to find attractive relative to other men Actually, there has been a lot to suggest that women in fact behave very much like this. They often don't even rate a man till other women show interest in them. Then often depending on how their peer group rates them, they will suddenly treat them accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 06:01 PM
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In your case of the overweight woman, i think she believes she can have that different standard because she believes that she is bringing something else to the table of comparable value. Now you can claim she is delusional in thinking that is the case, but as long as she believes it, it is only reasonable that she will act accordingly. Also having at the same time some similar expectations in the opposite sex does not invalidate my position. It's a little absurd to think so. Not everything is an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 08:03 PM
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So then we are going to have to accept that because women want tall men while not being tall themselves, they are hypocrites? I mean it makes the same logical sense but I'm not sure its useful as a standard. Men and women tend to prioritize different things that they value in a mate that they don't necessarily value in themselves and vice versa. That seem to be the meat of this very forum is the struggle of matching up these different standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 11:41 PM
3

It's usually a front. And the ones it isn't.... run.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 09:32 PM
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That is because in tribes of indigenous people, those of lesser fitness don't survive to adulthood. Tends to remove the genetic refuse rather efficiently. Personally, I'm a big fan of showers and deodorant. I'm also a bit on the slim side. And i was lucky to rarely have any sort of acne, despite shaving and wearing makeup every day. I also like wearing suits. But I'm not trying to make any of this about me. Though it isn't as though my luck with women has been especially impressive. In fact, des…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 01:06 AM
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Vanity is just not something that your going to do well attempting to instill in men. The concept of an attractive man is just alien to many of us. Many of us just don't see it. I personally couldn't tell you the difference between an attractive and not attractive man. They both fill me with the desire to purge my stomach if i have to look at either man for too long. Its almost as unappealing as the idea that i should be forced to gaze at myself in a mirror. If i could simply put my brain in an …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 12:15 AM
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Honestly, i have never understood why any woman would want to be with any man. I have had to accept that it is not a rational desire on their part. Unless of course it is merely to have a personal slave to help finance or otherwise support their existence and give them validation that a hapless man would sign up to such a cause. I'm not surprised that women are not attracted to men. We simply are not attractive. I think the question is, how did they think we were ever? And why has that suddenly …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 07:33 PM
1

Those other things are just the means by wish i am disgusted by everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 07:17 PM
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In my case, i shave my face every day. Usually in my shower first thing in the morning. I also wear makeup. I'm a bit on the thin side. The Eddie Bauer(i had to look them up) fashion advice on the other hand, i couldn't take. I'd feel like a complete douche dressing in that stuff. I prefer suits, vests and long coats. In darker colors. But maybe that's wear I'm going wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 01:32 AM
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Same. It just feels so cringy and gross to take a selfie. Hell, i don't like seeing myself in pictures or even walking past my reflection in building windows. If my friends want a group photo of something, i will quickly volunteer to take the picture just to avoid being in it. Failing that i just walk away whenever a camera is pulled out. It's a combination of just being disgusted by myself and being taught to not engage in vain behavior. It feels beneath me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 08:35 PM
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I'm not so sure. Many people learn better by doing, and in some games you have to actually apply this knowledge to be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 07:15 PM
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Video games have done a better job of familiarizing people with History and Economics than schools have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 11:50 PM
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Pill abortions are a thing. D & C procedure is not so necessary in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 01:19 AM
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Damn right. I make damn sure to have my Pedobear costume fresh and pressed the night before.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 01:11 AM
1

Or by simply not creating them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 01:12 AM
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“This person is too hot to ever genuinely choose me” is defeatist stupid pessimistic thinking And yet that was exactly the outcome. It was an accurate modeling of reality based on the outcome and yet you dismiss it as stupid. I think that speaks for itself and the flaws in your own outlook. Call it "defeatist stupid pessimist thinking" all you like, but it was right. Which is more than can be said for your Pollyannic outlook which only serves to maximize the suffering of those who take your advi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 08:23 PM
1

Being honest with yourself makes you harder to con.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 07:38 PM
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No. Your not supposed to believe the proclaimed judgement's of anyone that makes claims about you that could potentially gain anything from you by saying you are attractive. Even if that incentive could be feeling good about themselves from making an ugly person feel better about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:11 AM
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It is if you ever believed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 12:30 AM
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I was giving this some thought and I'm starting to wonder if it is because they aren't rating men's attractiveness in isolation. Women seem really good at being able to look at each other and gauge relative attractiveness where as many men are not as good at making such distinctions among ourselves. I think perhaps this leads to women comparing the men, not just against the attractiveness of other men but also against other women. If you rate men based against all humans, than it isn't so surpri…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 08:21 PM
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During those years I had developed a large network of friends with other homeless kids who also had friends who still had homes. So I met quite a few through other friends and some of them were just girls that would hit on me at the mall. It was the 90's when malls where more active. As for where i stayed the night, it depended. On occasion would get snuck into the girls room, but most nights i would either get invite to stay the night at a friends house(Who usually had no idea i was homeless), …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 06:42 PM
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Half of the girlfriends i had were during my homeless days when i was 17-20. 7 relationships during that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 01:55 AM
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That's fair. I have seen that on the other side as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 06:40 PM
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I have noticed something similar to this as well. I have a certain look that both fortunately and unfortunately leads to people making a lot of assumptions about me. With women they find that i appear like a character in some fantasy for them, but as soon as i spoil the fantasy by being a real, deeper person, their interest often fades.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 09:59 PM
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Quick! Check Again!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 09:16 PM
1

My plan is the mass and complete sterilization of all life in existence. This solves all problems forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 06:33 PM
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And that is why it must be smashed and snuffed out of existence. So this hell can end.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 01:38 AM
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They just need to look into elective surgery tourism to save money.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 11:34 PM
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He'll this might be the first positive thing any of that accomplished in the last 50 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 07:45 PM
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I love this variant of the copypasta. We'll done.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 07:24 PM
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"The survey is conducted face-to-face with an in-person interview by NORC at the University of Chicago." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Social_Survey
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:15 PM
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Which is all the more reason why they wouldn't be honest about their own role in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:47 PM
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When have people ever needed a reason to lie? For many people, it's how they breathe. These interviews are conducted face to face in person. People lie so that strangers wont judge them all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:44 PM
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With no means to verify the veracity of a single answer amongst a small sample size of self selected individuals. As worthless as every other survey about anything outside of preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:28 PM
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A Survey. Those results are worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 07:24 PM
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Which is not a point i was criticizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 07:10 PM
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You didn't. The person your defending did.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 03:51 AM
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So that justifies alluding to the guy having his own ulterior motives for being concerned? So we give her the benefit of the doubt, but not him?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 12:13 AM
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Holy Crap. Really?!? You cant just accept that the man is bothered that he feels like he lost a friend for doing what he see's as just being pushed into the middle of a situation that he didn't even create? If anything proves his original post right, it's this reaction from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 09:45 PM
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I once did one of those gender face swap apps and posted it online. I was very hot as a woman. The response among my friends was universal exclamations of how hot i was as a woman, with many of my female friends saying things to the effect of, they would never not be hitting on me. Feels like i lost the coin toss pretty badly at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 08:03 PM
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If you conflate sex as a purely mechanical act, than your options make sense. To most people it is unfortunately more than merely a mechanical act.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 12:56 AM
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For that they need a PC.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 12:46 AM
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I just have never seen them so i assume neither have most women. Do women keep them trapped in women's restrooms? Is that why they never go to the public restrooms alone? One of them milks them while the other one is there to insure he doesn't escape?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 08:08 PM
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If that is true, then almost no woman will ever be happy. There is no such thing as a more attractive man compared to even an average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 07:04 PM
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you imply everyone should have the same standards as you I feel like I'm being mischaracterized with this since i don't see where i did this. Also your definition of healthy standards is not universal. We all operate under different standards of what we find acceptable, even in terms of mate selection. One could for example argue that not sleeping with people who have previously been involved with other people who are less hygienic or engage in high risk behavior with their own bodies, including…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 10:10 PM
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I can happily accept that. If education leads to grammar nazi's than civilization was a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 07:10 PM
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Good. Then i will make sure to continue the habit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 07:09 PM
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I don't recall claiming you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 07:07 PM
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Misspellings are common as well. Do you have a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 06:56 PM
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That's your right. However without judgment we also lose any sense of standards. If you find the idea of others having personal standards gross, i don't know what to to suggest since i don't see everyone suddenly dropping those entirely. I know i wont be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 06:54 PM
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Pointed out by someone who neglected to add a period to the end of their sentence. Grammar nazi's are the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 09:58 PM
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I understand that you may not find it to be an attractive trait, but insecurity is a human trait. And despite what so many women seemed to have convinced themselves of, men are actually human. Why should it be at all surprising to anyone that men might not desire to be compared to everyone else. I mean consider the most loathsome woman you know, and then imagine that woman rubbing it in your face that she used to bang your man. How would that make you feel? Would that not colour how you see him?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 09:55 PM
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I think these are coming from different groups of men. Some of this sounds like its coming from men who just want to manipulate women into sex and i think part of it sounds like men who want relationships. If you take this on, treating men like a monolith, then of course this will seem contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 09:49 PM
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Because a man is going to judge you based on who came before him because ultimately who you are and your standards will and do reflect on your mate choice. We all know certain people that we simply do not want to follow in their footsteps, or even be compared to. I suspect many women might feel the same way. Every time you decide to enter one door, several others will close in terms of interest in you. Those men that don't care, well don't care. Which is likely to lead to problems down the road …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 09:41 PM
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That's not the type of going off i was referencing. Stoicism is the only thing that keeps men who feel they are treated unfairly from just giving into their rage and murdering people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 08:47 PM
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Stoicism is the only thing keeping those ticking time bombs from going off.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 07:54 PM
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If that was the outcome, they would likely already do so. The fact that they don't so often seems to indicate that neither of those are compelling enough reasons or simply don't apply. They need something that can appeal to their direct self interest as well as disincentives. That is what it took for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 08:27 PM
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I think your right in that it is possible. The problem i think is that there is little incentive for women to do so. They could examine themselves and choose to do that which is counter to what their nature or instincts would prefer as men have, but what benefit do they get from that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 07:53 PM
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So in your world, no one is so unattractive that they cant find love. Also poor people are only poor because they choose to be. Just need some bootstraps(TM). I envy that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 08:10 PM
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If what you claim is true about my posts, then clearly i am in violation of posting rules here. Feel free to report me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:50 PM
1

99% will be considered superfluous to the maintaining of sufficient infrastructure to maintain the small number of elites who will have everything. So that excess will be allowed to die off when those that control the resources simply shut them off from the masses. Those that attempt to simply take from the elites at that point, will be actively killed off. Those that don't will be left to fend for themselves and likely die off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 11:53 PM
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Of course feudalism had an underclass. It was based on having an underclass. However that underclass had little to contribute as far as an economy was concerned. Wealth was concentrated in the hands of those few in the nobility who owned all the land and resources. Which is exactly where we are headed now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 10:42 PM
1

Are you saying that being an Incel is a matter of place of birth and societal status of ones parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:44 PM
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Fair point, though i suspect both groups have reason to keep their ear to the ground in relation to men's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:41 PM
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If civil discourse when sharing your opinion is so beneath you, then do everyone a favor and don't bother. I wouldn't want you to feel like your doing me or anyone else a favor by lowering yourself to participating. ---- The Patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:40 PM
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The same way fuedalism worked. Also the need for large underclass is becoming increasingly unnecessary thanks to advances in automation and AI.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:34 PM
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As much as women will tend to claim otherwise, a lot of the frustration stems from this and i think also a lot of men actually do desire an equal on top of this. When you want an equal, then any behavior that you would consider beneath yourself to engage in will upset you when she engages in it. The problem is that concepts like honor are largely a male invention that males use as a sort of code that allows us to trust each other enough for us to be able to work as a group towards a shared goal …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:07 AM
1

Nevah!!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 08:52 PM
1

Quit trying to justify hatred against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 07:32 PM
1

Death.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:51 PM
0

This does explain a lot. Socially dominant men tend to be the worst of us. I suppose it makes sense that women select for them or else we would have managed to progress as a species. Suddenly our lack of progress makes a lot of sense. So much for patriarchy theory. Cute the way they complain about hierarchy's and yet select for those preoccupied with such things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:50 PM
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Very true. I'm guilty of doing the same in a few sub-reddits. The overall point however is well taken. While we cannot be sure of actual numbers, they are right that the trend is definitely an undeniable upward trend in terms of interest in these topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:27 PM
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From the same quarters that they have always come from. Traditional conservatives and the religious. While their may be some overlap in terms of members being among groups of anti-feminists, Many anti-feminists also see reason to be critical to those in both camps of traditionalists and religious. Traditionalists and conservatives are often dismissive of anti-feminists whenever they express any desire to not adopt the life script that both groups seem to expect from men. It's not much different …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:23 PM
1

I did. "Those who have the money have already concluded that they can continue to have an economy without the participation of most of us."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:14 PM
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I see your point, but i suspect there is a large amount of overlap with membership in those communities. Not sure what the Vin Diagram looks like exactly, but I'm sure the center of it is large.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:36 AM
2

So nothing will change then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:33 AM
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Customers are only customers if they have a means to buy your product. increasingly, that is no longer the case. Those who have the money have already concluded that they can continue to have an economy without the participation of most of us. That was what the real take away of the Citigroup memo that got released back in 2012: https://delong.typepad.com/plutonomy-1.pdf People were a bit miffed and up in arms and of course public apologies were made, but the cat was let out of the bag. This is …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:17 AM
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It will, Sadly just not for most of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:12 AM
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Probably because not all anti-feminists are part of some political conservative monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:05 AM
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There were over 800 deaths by violence last year in your country. Only 173 where of this nature. Most of those people killed by violence last year in your country were men. 173 women met this fate out of a population of over 34 million women. Even if we only look at the women who died last year(around 270,000), this doesn't even account for .1% of the causes of death for women. Yet somehow this is an epidemic for women? You all must be terrified of roads then since you are 5 times more likely to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 10:41 AM
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Just as an aside, i think we have overblown the idea that there is this epidemic of men murdering women over rejections and i think this is actively harming relations between the sexes. I was having a conversation elsewhere that caused me to do some digging and what i found kind of shocked me. Turns out that the rate of male suicides are around 9 times that of female homicides in total. At least in the US. About 4k women a year are killed in homicides while 36k suicides of men happen per year. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 08:50 PM
1

But that's impossible. According to you, ones life circumstances are unchanging and can only be caused by genetic legacy, like being an incel. Which is itself kind of silly since obviously incels have parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 08:11 PM
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I wasn't aware that life circumstances were a heritable matter of genetics. I guess by that logic we could wipe out poverty by making sure the poors dont breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:43 AM
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Having offspring is something that doesn't appeal to nearly as many men as a motivator as sex in and of itself. As long as its just a small minority of men who have this issue, i agree that society can cushion itself from needing them. It's when this number increases that we risk problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:40 AM
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Evolution has changed us very little in the lifetimes of civilizations. I would prefer we keep some semblance of civilization over concerns of our evolution. Civilization only came about as a result of our willingness to maintain some level of social contract for the good of us all and it has allowed us to live far more comfortable lives as a result. An appeal to nature is not so convincing in comparison. We have it within us to defy our natures, and it has been to our benefit to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 02:00 AM
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I mean if that is the kind of world you want to go back to, then i guess more power to you. I'm not a utopianist but i would kind of hope we could do better. I mean since 8,000 years ago i would think we have improved somewhat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 10:08 PM
1

I wish my life was so privileged that i could see such basic human desires and drives as trivial. I don't let these things rule my life, but even i understand the pull of these desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 09:13 PM
0

Are women suddenly not people now?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 09:10 PM
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Strange that you would jump straight to it only being a matter of personality traits. There are many men who are simply too ugly and don't have the charms to overcome that handicap. It doesn't make them useless in other arena's. I'm not sure why you carve out an exception for school shootings. Easy targets, sure. But only an idiot would choose a target that isn't going to have a high likelihood of success. Can you really be so sure that everyone who works in every one of those industries are get…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 09:09 PM
2

It's not as though desperate people wouldn't turn to crime. That certainly wouldn't have any negative effect on society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 09:02 PM
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And you are basing this on what exactly? It isn't as though we live in a world where we put markers on everyone who identifies as incels, at least not yet. Or do you just swallow every stereotype about people the media feeds you? At any rate, I'm quite interested in any citations you have to back up anything you stated here. Even if we accept the stereotype, I'm pretty sure their interests would include video games, which last i checked is one of the most profitable industries and of widespread …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 09:00 PM
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We'll it's not what i'm advocating, but what your suggesting sarcastically would literally wipe out the incels. No magic required. You do bring up something that i find interesting. Does sex change us? I would say, that it does for a lot of people. But i agree. This isn't a utopia. And I'm trying to be more realistic about that. As it stands, i don't think we will ever not have people that are sadly just too unattractive to find love. The difference i seem to have with most people here is in how…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 08:56 PM
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Fantasy? Not mine. I'm dreading any such outcome. Most men would be quite happy to work less if it wouldn't affect their ability to attract a mate or raise a family. I hope your right about the 80% prediction. But the places where it is that slanted, they aren't places i would want to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 08:24 PM
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Perhaps the solution isn't antagonism. Just throwing that out there. I'm not suggesting we should be lining up all the single women and forcing them into relationships. It's a hell of a leap that so many seem hell bent on taking to justify treating others with disgust and contempt. It's a false dichotomy and I'm calling it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:49 PM
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On a personal level, I'm not saying she should. I personally do not care so much for 90% of those out there. However in the big picture, i can see how even if i don't care about them personally, It would be a bad move to mock those that outnumber me while i live in their midst and benefit from their existence. Societies have always been a balancing act of keeping various groups at least content or at least not at the point of attempting to tear it all down.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:43 PM
1

I don't pretend to have the solution. I'm just pointing out that this could be a problem that may be worth addressing with more than just scorn and disgust which is much of what i am seeing and i only see it as making the problem worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:27 PM
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Was that a good time for your average person to exist in?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:24 PM
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I understand that I'm just an anonymous stranger on the internet using a pseudonym and have no interest in verifying beyond this statement, but you seem to be alluding to the idea that i am one of these incels on the strength of my pointing out that its not a good idea to treat large segments of society as though they are irrelevant. I would argue that i understand the danger inherent in such divisions to any group regardless which side of the line i am on. But if your so dead set on tossing any…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:02 AM
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When society no longer benefits those who labor to maintain it than eventually those that do so will stop. When enough stop, it will collapse and life will no longer be as easy for anyone. It's only a question of how many can society afford to ignore before it implodes? Of course it may be possible for those men to not matter. If the numbers necessary to keep it going are not made up of such men. I fear we will find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 12:35 AM
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So the conversation just ends at interaction with women and as such so does the problem. Thank you for your insight and empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 11:02 PM
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"What natural advantages would you like to be able to use against women and how would you use them?" That's your idea of neutral? You may as well have asked him when the last time he beat up his mother was.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 08:07 PM
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I did voice my issue with his statement. It was posted elsewhere in the comments. And somehow i did it without the need to ignore things he said to subtlety frame him as some kind of monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 07:53 PM
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If what your implying was true about his intention then what sense would it make for him to even include "while simultaneously rewarded women for using theirs". And your right that including this in the sentence does not negate the first part of the sentence. It contextualizes it. It illustrates the double standard rather clearly despite your claim that it isn't being featured. Your question was not neutral. "What natural advantages would you like to be able to use against women and how would yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 07:25 PM
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You're question to him was actually: "What natural advantages would you like to be able to use against women and how would you use them?". That was a thinly veiled character attack which required you to ignore what else he was saying. He had already stated what natural advantages men have: "Evolution gave women that ability, but is made men stronger, bigger, and faster". You then jumped to assuming that he wanted to be able to use these against women, which is not what he indicated he was advoca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 11:12 PM
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I'm going to be charitable here and take the opposite approach from what seems to be popular and agree with you about the fact that we do penalize negative male behavior while enabling negative women's behavior. Or at the very least not penalizing them to the same degree. That said, i would be even more uncomfortable with the kind of nightmare dystopia we would find ourselves in if we did police and penalize the kind of negative behavior that women tend to engage in. It's too close to totalitari…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 10:00 PM
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Except that you framed this question in terms of his intent which he never implied so this claim comes off a little disingenuous. I have issues with his statement too, but mine are not based on implications around his personal character.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 09:54 PM
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I think your illustrating another difference in the 2 sides. Women tend to fall back on history to justify their position, where as men tend to point to more contemporary sources to illustrate their points.Granted this could be in part due to the fact that Academia has been very focused on Feminist studies where as men have no equivalent to provide them with much in the way of illustrating their own historical unfairness outside of the surface level understanding of men's disposability or evolut…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 11:47 PM
1

Deserves retaliation, no. But for a man to put themselves out there to approach you, is ironically only not a big deal to those who will likely value your opinion less. It's a risk. It's setting yourself up to be judged. If the man genuinely cares about how you think of him, it will be terrifying. To be rejected after putting yourself in that position, is certainly a blow to ones self-esteem, but only if they cared what you thought in the first place. Some guys just don't have any healthy way of…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:28 PM
1

I think its easier for a woman to become attractive to most men by the very fact that the model of female attractiveness is so well understood. Women often complain about being held up against a standard but at least they know what the standard is whether they choose to approach it or not, but at least the goal is in sight. I think for men it is a lot more complicated because women do have much more varied tastes as to what they find attractive. Women tend to have disparate types of men they fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 07:59 PM
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It's likely because it is a lot easier to be more agreeable when your in that position in life. If you are the kind of guy who always has options throwing themselves your way, then its not so traumatic since even if your current relationship goes south, they have little to fear of being left lonely afterwards. The resource of intimate company from the opposite sex will never be a resource they will ever have to do without. And consequently little reason to become bitter. I suspect this is also t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 10:57 PM
2

The fucked up thing is, you don’t really know how kind someone is until you interact with them as a person they find unattractive. This is the most true thing i have read in this forum yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 10:49 PM
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Accepting all of this in good faith, i can certainly acknowledge that this does indicate a problem with men. People on here are making a lot of utilitarian arguments about how the ends justify the means in terms of why men behave in this way since it is the behavior that is most rewarded, especially by women. And it is a valid position. However since expecting women to take any responsibility for how their desires and expectations affect men as a group is a futile endeavor, i would instead prefe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 12:29 AM
1

That would have saved a lot of lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 12:20 AM
2

I'm going to disagree with the general opinion of this sub. I believe the headline is accurate. But that is only because any man who thinks he rates over a 2 is clearly delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 06:53 PM
1

Probably because the upvote emoji looks too much like an eggplant which was used as a stand in for penises, and no one wants to see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 01:30 AM
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Agreed. They need to watch better porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 01:14 AM
1

Why should a man accept that level of weakness in a mate? Why should we waste 2 decades of resource acquisition on offspring created by a woman who will pass on their own weaknesses.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/11/19 06:20 PM
3

Patriarchy intensifies.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/11/19 06:15 PM
1

So lesbians aren't people to you? What a bigoted thing to say.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/11/19 06:14 PM
1

I thought it was funny because it claims it's a myth merely based on the grounds that its true but happens to other people too, therefor it doesn't happen.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 10:45 PM
1

So your saying we should simply ignore their expectations?
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 10:40 PM
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And why should men see that any differently in women?
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 10:36 PM
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Domestic abuse and [LBD](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian_bed_death) mostly.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 10:25 PM
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That's one way to cut down on the population.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 10:20 PM
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Drill down deeper. Do men want to be the provider? When have they had a choice? Why do they do it? What happens to them if they don't? Do men actually prefer passive women? How did they compel such behavior if they did? What if they don't? Why would women ever be passive? Patriarchy as an explanation is intellectually lazy and historically ignorant.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 10:13 PM
1

In my opinion, there is a subtext to this debate that underlies people's position on the subject. Both sides are interested in stopping injustices, but there is a disagreement on how that should be done. One side believes that standards of evidence should be maintained to avoid injustices that would happen to those at the mercy of the courts. The other side believes that standards of evidence should be relaxed so that it is easier to make sure that people who commit injustices are more easily pu…
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 06:10 PM
1

Given how women prefer to use methods such as poisoning, they are pretty bad at the not making a mess part if that is their intention. The fantasy of just taking pills, passing out and not waking up again, leaving behind a pristine corpse is less likely to be how that works. It's more likely they are going to die with their head in a toilet after making a mess of the bathroom with vomit everywhere. And slitting ones wrist in the bathtub isn't exactly clean either. Blood just gets everywhere. I m…
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 05:59 PM
4

After all statistics are an excellent justification to accept injustices.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/11/19 10:42 PM
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So what is it also saying when he brings up that most of the homeless and suicides are also men. What is the subtext there?
/r/PussyPassDenied01/11/19 10:39 PM
1

Sounds like ZIM needs to be banned back to foodcourtia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6pQNP0Dv1s
/r/PussyPassDenied19/09/19 10:05 PM
1

I suspect that many of the doctors actually performing D and C procedures are male. Any man who hasn't, is less of a man and should attempt to make up for it by erecting statues of the men who do.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/09/19 07:10 PM
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I'm guessing your completely ignorant of the arab slave trade that was going on from The 9th century to nearly the present. You know why you dont tend to hear a lot of the descendants of those slaves complaining? Because their are close to no descendants of those slaves. They were usually castrated. Rather than attempt to raise slaves by letting them form families, they spent centuries simply plundering slaves from africa whenever they needed more. How much do you imagine Arabs benefitted from t…
/r/PussyPassDenied07/08/19 09:59 PM
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That only complicates the procedure, but i agree it should be done none the less.
/r/PussyPassDenied31/07/19 07:47 PM
1

For me personally, i have been subject to similar things so i come here to see perhaps what i could have done better or what i should have looked for in the event that i can better deal with the next toxic woman. The premise is after all: terrible women who didn't get away with terrible behavior. So far the takeaway for me has been that their isn't really much a guy can do. It's all down to luck and circumstance sadly.
/r/PussyPassDenied31/07/19 07:05 PM
2

Guess they must be wrong then.
/r/PussyPassDenied31/07/19 06:59 PM
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Unless his post there was something to the effect of "All republicans are amazing and have never done anything wrong" that's a pretty irrelevant thing to bring up.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/07/19 05:26 PM
3

Baskin Robbins always finds out.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/07/19 05:47 PM
0

So what your saying is normal guys are only different from psychopaths by their lack of self awareness. And a psychopath is just a guy who analyzes the results of their actions and decides not to engage in such actions because of those results. That's an interesting take. I think i would prefer to be surrounded by psychopaths then.
/r/PussyPassDenied05/07/19 05:33 PM
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I'm not advocating for the creation of more suffering and death, But sure, I'm the psycopath.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/07/19 12:08 AM
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"by suing the mother hes basiclaly telling that kid he doesnt matter." I'm going to call bullshit on this. There is nothing in this action that means what your claiming. What evidence do you have to even suggest this? Even an 8 year old understands that lying is bad and that an innocent man shouldn't pay the price for that.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/07/19 11:31 PM
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It wasn't the fathers call to damage the relationship with the kid. The woman did that when she chose to deceive the father and the child. It was her choices that created this situation. Yet somehow its the father who had no choice that is somehow held responsible. As a someone who learned their mother was a lying whore at 8, I certainly wouldn't hold the "fathers" actions against him. Hell, i would be rooting for him. This idea that the kid will suffer from knowing the truth is a bit overblown.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/07/19 11:24 PM
1

https://jech.bmj.com/content/59/9/749
/r/PussyPassDenied03/07/19 11:07 PM
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It's because a lot of men just really want to be responsible for suffering and death and by creating a child of their own, they can be proud of the fact that they have now created a living being that will suffer and die. They may not kill them themselves, but they get the satisfaction from the inevitability of it. If it turns out that the child was not biologically theirs, then they can get no such satisfaction from being responsible for adding more suffering and death to the world since some ot…
/r/PussyPassDenied03/07/19 10:56 PM
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So your willing to create suffering beings who will eventually die in pain and agony just so you can Stockholm syndrome them into giving a damn about you. All to validate your existence. Seems a bit evil to me. If the people already alive don't care much for you, it isn't likely creating more people is going to up those odds much.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/07/19 10:48 PM
1

The fact that they seem to genuinely not understand something that even the most basic of empathy should make apparent is the thing that scares me the most. It is like we aren't even human at all to them.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/07/19 10:37 PM
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The fact that your example is tribes in the Amazon kind of illustrates the inferiority of polygamy as a social/reproductive dynamic. The monogamous societies literally rule the world while the polygamous ones are nearing extinction and are completely at the mercy of the monogamous cultures. Polygamy is an evolutionary dead end.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/07/19 10:34 PM
1

Considering the daughters had no choice in this, i do consider their victim hood to be a bit greater. Same with the husband. The teenage boys were taken advantage of to an extent, but the fact that they were fine with banging their gf's mom, when they had gf's dims their halo's a bit in my estimation. I accept that the majority of the responsibility falls on the mother, it doesn't absolve the boys completely of some moral responsibility since they were also betraying their relationships. I don't…
/r/PussyPassDenied21/06/19 06:40 PM
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I didn't notice that she was married. I guess in my mind i assumed it was a single mother and somehow overlooked that. I feel terrible for him as well.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/06/19 06:33 PM
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There is a lot of discussion about the moral wrongdoing vs penalty in regards to whether or not the young boys were victims or not. What is undeniable to me however is that the daughters were clearly victims here. To have your own mother betray you on top of your SO at that age is going to leave behind some serious damage on these girls. I can't help but feel pretty bad for them. And for their sake, i do hope the mothers penalty is harsh. It's a sad world where an internet stranger has more empa…
/r/PussyPassDenied20/06/19 06:42 PM
1

Ah, here we are: https://www.nber.org/papers/w23337
/r/PussyPassDenied27/07/18 04:12 AM
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As thought your body is enough to keep a vehicle from just taking you both out. I don't think most of use have that kind of mass.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/01/18 01:14 AM
0

I was most worried about them getting shot.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/05/17 07:45 PM
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I won't sleep easy until she is disarmed before being allowed back into the public. She is still walking around armed with the ability to continue to produce the kind of weapon that she has demonstrated she will use on others. She shouldn't be allowed out without first having to surrender her gastrointestinal tract. We should not allow her the ability to re-offend.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/05/17 07:42 PM
3

My drunk god seems to be a really angry drunk.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/05/17 07:37 PM
3

I also feel compelled to call out the bad parenting excuse as Bullshit. I had 2 of the worst parents imaginable and i don't pull this kind of crap. My mother was a prostitute, and my father used to deal drugs. I would never consider throwing shit at a cop to be a good idea, Especially given how any interaction with the police can be used to justify them killing her poor dogs.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/05/17 07:27 PM
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I think its a good idea, but sometimes it backfires. My sister works as a waitress and every time we go out to eat, she claims i am too generous with a tip and nit picks the poor servers job to justify why i shouldn't have given so much. It's odd to me that some people just can't put their empathy over their petty standards.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/05/17 07:19 PM
2

Here is an example of the kind of scenario you are asking men to sign up for. If your wife had the legal right to just straight up murder you, would you still choose to get married? If so then I'm glad you have a relationship where you have that kind of faith in your wife. Personally as much as i love and trust my SO, i wouldn't want to put myself in that position.
/r/MensRights24/05/17 08:07 PM
1

I find PoE cuts into my sleep time, but it is fun.
/r/MensRights24/05/17 07:45 PM
1

Most people just assumed i was a tweaker. It was rampant and a lot of my friends were on the stuff. Though i had no interest in drugs outside of caffeine. I still have a bit of survivors guilt over getting out. There were some that tried harder than i did that were out their longer that never made it out. And even those that did, often had continuing drug issues.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/05/17 10:04 PM
10

As a formerly homeless person, i made a lot of friends who were in a similar situation as my own. I was one of a number of homeless teenagers. Many of them were punk, and a lot of the others were simply homeless looking. One thing i learned early on was to do everything i could to not look or smell homeless. I never wore a suit till i became homeless. The funny thing is that compared to many of my friends who obviously looked homeless, people tended to be more generous with me on the occasions w…
/r/PussyPassDenied22/05/17 09:23 PM
1

Pregnant=fat as far as most people can tell. Unless you suggest we shove an ultrasonic wand up every fat woman who gets on the bus. So if pregnant women wish to exert their privilege they should be ready to verify that medically to the bus passengers.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/05/17 07:40 PM
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If i had to get up for every fat woman i see on the bus, i would never be able to sit down. Besides, anyone that chooses to inconvenience others because they chose to get pregnant is a piece of shit. Creating problems out of themselves that everyone else is expected to put up with is scummy.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/05/17 06:31 PM
2

Admittedly, that was the only part of the video that kind of bothered me. Surprisingly it seemed more concerned for the women who got hit than it seemed to be reacting itself. I'm kind of surprised it would even go near her after that.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/04/17 08:23 PM
1

I would agree if we are talking about a discount here and there occasionally. However as with most kinds of internal theft, it almost never stops and often becomes habitual on the part of the thief as long as they aren't caught. In the case of my former workplace, it was happening enough that our location had the second highest shrink loss out of over 300 stores in the company. It was easily in the tens of thousands of dollars worth of loss over the course of a year. I suspect that would certain…
/r/PussyPassDenied17/03/17 10:32 PM
2

Happened to an assistant manager where i used to work.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/03/17 10:05 PM
2

A lot of companies will happily fire you for giving discounts. It's considered internal theft and in some cases the company will take you to court after firing you if they can prove any amount of loss. Seeing as how most sales are done on a employee/cashiers id which records the transactions, its not difficult for the company to come up with a number that they can prove that they lost by your practice of giving discounts and go after you for it in court for the "damages". So he's not technically…
/r/PussyPassDenied17/03/17 09:01 PM
1

It's the Troll known as "Sub-Reddit".
/r/PussyPassDenied17/03/17 12:06 AM
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So what your saying is he should have winded up longer on the haymaker.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/03/17 01:24 AM
1

The moment she decided to act outside the bounds of society, she should no longer expect to have its protections. If his reaction was to shove a live grenade down her throat, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/03/17 01:22 AM
1

I would not accept that from a cop only because we pay police to be professional about such situations.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/03/17 01:20 AM
1

Not comfortable confronting your privilege you filthy shitlord? /s
/r/PussyPassDenied24/02/17 11:33 PM
1

A lot of people live in those less civilized parts.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/02/17 11:28 PM
1

Funny, I was describing events that happen in that dark blue.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/02/17 11:21 PM
1

Not sure what your referring to when you say "outside the west".
/r/PussyPassDenied24/02/17 11:13 PM
2

And yet not being threatened with physical violence every time you leave your house or being home invaded when you stay home anyway. Still privileged.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/02/17 11:03 PM
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If you live in a world where physical violence is such a distant reality from your existence that you do not understand this, then I think we can safely say you are living with a great deal of privilege.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/02/17 10:53 PM
1

Actually you wouldn't have to go 20,000 years back. It would make more sense to go back around 8k years ago given our development of memetic thinking prior to our earliest civilizations.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/02/17 09:41 PM
2

You can test in other species. This idea that it wouldn't be applicable to human behavior is the same kind of sophist thinking that leads people to believe in religion because humans have to be special in some way we can't qualify. This notion that evolutionary factors changing behavior applies to all other animals but us is baseless. If we accept that evolution has effected us and every other animal in our development, how can one possibly believe that somehow it doesn't apply to us "above the …
/r/PussyPassDenied13/02/17 08:26 PM
2

Because Evolution is accepted, but somehow it doesn't apply to humans above the neck because variance. /s
/r/PussyPassDenied13/02/17 08:18 PM
1

I don't disagree with much of this. I think perhaps our disagreement stems from our definitions of small/big government. Your concerned about needless unaccountable bureaucracy. I completely agree that it is a problem that I would also like to see a lot less of as well. You also seem to have a states rights position. I'm still debating that internally as I do see both pro's and cons on the matter and haven't came to a conclusion myself. However I am not one of these simple minded idiots that thi…
/r/PussyPassDenied28/01/17 07:27 PM
1

You think the citizens are going to be able to stop corporations as individuals at this point? You think they wont kill you? They don't seem to have too many compunctions about hiring "security firms" to kill people in other countries without strong governments when they attempt to get in their way. They utilize governments more as a matter of convenience at this point. No one should be so naïve as to think they wont kill you if it wasn't for the fact that the US government cannot publicly allow…
/r/PussyPassDenied27/01/17 11:04 PM
1

Remember feudalism? Because the only thing keeping us from becoming a 3rd world country where foreign corporations are able to come in and simply take what they want and leaving us with nothing is the government. Granted they are doing a shit job of that. But it is the only thing we have as a buffer. You know where else has small governments? Most of Africa. Chunks of South America. Oh and the middle east.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/01/17 10:53 PM
1

I agree that these are terrible miscarriages of justice. But the solution is not to create a vacuum of power that will then be filled by corporations who will simply enact their own dirty work directly.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/01/17 10:46 PM
1

Yes, corruption and bad policies. Both are not concepts I am defending and I agree that these are problems that need to be fixed. In my opinion the solution is to increase accountability and penalties that public servants face for their bad policy's. Instead they have been able to legislate themselves immunity from accountability. I believe we should hold our politicians to higher standards rather than lower ones that me or you would face for causing a fraction of their consequences.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/01/17 06:53 PM
1

In order to have fewer agencies with fewer bureaucrats, we would need to be willing to grant the fewer agency's more power to oversee the areas of government that the more numerous agency's would have covered. Ironically the same people that are for smaller government actually force the creation of these more numerous smaller agency's that leads to the increase in bureaucrats to oversee them, because they object to fewer people having more power over the public. It's either that or they sacrific…
/r/PussyPassDenied27/01/17 06:39 PM
1

Your complaints are not inherently tied to the size of the central government. They are complaints over bad policies. Bad policies are not a defining property of large central governments anymore than they are absent from smaller governments.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/01/17 01:16 AM
1

Multinational corporations and how they interact with nations who do not have the resources to oppose them is pretty well established. Not sure how you can look at the history of so many countries without a strong central government and claim it's hypothetical given so many historical examples.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/01/17 12:48 AM
1

Because unfortunately we need to make a choice between a small government that will simply get ignored by multinational corporations that are too powerful to regulate or keep from exploiting our nations citizens and whom the people will have absolutely no say in how they operate. Or we support a government big enough to at least have the ability(even if sadly, not always the inclination) to keep multinational corporations from having the run of things unchallenged that is at least to some extent…
/r/PussyPassDenied27/01/17 12:31 AM
1

There are technical legalities and then there are practical realities.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/01/17 11:15 PM
1

It was a failure of government. However government was only making an existing problem worse. The reason that it hit the black family so hard vs. every other poor group on welfare was because at the time, black men were having a very difficult job obtaining opportunities to be self-sufficient, from the public sector discriminating against them for being black. They needed the help, and the government kicked them in the teeth instead. What would have likely been a temporary state of affairs has p…
/r/PussyPassDenied26/01/17 11:13 PM
1

Technically given what we are able to see in regards to outcomes, it would be in the best interest of the child to force both parents to be present for the child's upbringing, but we do not do this. The child's interests are not paramount to family arrangement as far as the government is concerned. Consider this scenario: A mother decides to not have the kid after allowing it to be born. She chooses to not involve the father in the birth. She goes to the hospital and has the kid. She refuses to …
/r/PussyPassDenied26/01/17 10:57 PM
1

As your link made clear, it really does depend on the state. Also your link points out that the parent is not to be held responsible for any legal accountability which is kind of the point. Child support is not expected from the surrendering parent.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/01/17 07:08 PM
1

I don't understand why it is any more or less a shitty thing when women make that choice for the same considerations. I see it as their right and it should be the right of men as well. The child is rarely at fault for many of the unfortunate circumstances they often find themselves in. Not sure why this particular situation warrants punishing other people who did not have any more choice than the child in the decision to have one. The responsibility should lie with those who made the decision to…
/r/PussyPassDenied26/01/17 07:01 PM
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Actually the damage to black families was done well before the crime bill. The real culprit was likely the man in the house rules that were in effect till 1968 that became part of early welfare reform as early as the 1930's. Black men were put in a terrible position to either get a job to support their family during a time when few wanted to hire them or leave and allow their families welfare.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/01/17 07:30 AM
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If the man did indeed choose to bring that life into the world, then yes he should be responsible for it. However the operative concept here is "choice". Simply claiming that men having sex is tantamount to making that choice in the affirmative is no different from conservatives claiming that women should have kept their legs closed while refusing them abortions. I do not find either of those situations acceptable. On the matter of kids growing up without a father, You cannot compel fatherhood. …
/r/PussyPassDenied26/01/17 07:19 AM
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The first issue is not one i wish to challenge in terms of forcing people to remain pregnant. I can think of few things more monstrous. As for the 2nd point, it simply isn't true. The mother can still make the unilateral choice to walk away even after the child is born. One example off the top of my head is safe haven drop offs. It comes with no parental liability.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/01/17 07:02 AM
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It's actually an egalitarian appeal to women to not oppose men having a choice post conception about whether or not they want to be a parent. That men should not be forced into fatherhood any more than women should be forced into motherhood. Karen DeCrow was the best version of a feminist possible. Sad we so rarely see her like otherwise.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/01/17 09:50 PM
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Someone did just that: http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/01/european-queens-waged-more-wars-than-kings.html
/r/PussyPassDenied31/10/16 06:53 PM
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This kind of puts that notion on its head. http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/01/european-queens-waged-more-wars-than-kings.html
/r/PussyPassDenied31/10/16 06:51 PM
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Because then he couldn't justify nuking people, Being a smoke stack that melts ice, planning another holocaust, or attaching himself to school shootings.
/r/PussyPassDenied31/10/16 06:41 PM
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Can confirm. The doctors refuse to allow me to keep mine.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/09/16 11:32 PM
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Personally i often find that i have a lot of common ground with lesbians. They often understand how crazy women are and have to put up with a lot of the same BS that straight men do.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/08/16 04:35 PM
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She was the only one that had any sense of self-awareness.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/08/16 07:50 PM
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So what happens when they introduce some new, turned out to have been missing, part of the bible that includes passages of Jesus telling people it is their Christian duty to orally rape babies as the only true path to salvation? By his logic, his own moral barometer flies right out the window because of something some hallucinating desert people wrote down millennia ago. Hell, with that in mind, no one should trust Christians ever since they are just one archeological dig away from becoming baby…
/r/PussyPassDenied26/08/16 08:18 PM
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I'm convinced that these "victim's" have more interest in virtue signaling than they actually care about the problems they claim are an issue. How is punching a Trump supporter going to help your cause if you don't want Trump to be president? It isn't as though the person you punch is going to suddenly not vote for Trump. It isn't going to make your position look any more appealing to any 3rd parties witnessing it. If anything it only serves to reinforce your oppositions conviction that they are…
/r/PussyPassDenied30/03/16 08:31 PM
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I have seen enough "fights" end in one person being killed or crippled or maimed as a result of a single hit. As far as I am concerned, a willingness to throw a hit is a declaration that you are accepting the possibility that you may kill the other person. Anyone who throws that declarative punch loses all right to personal consideration of their own life when so callously willing to disregard another persons right to live.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/02/16 09:04 PM
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Actually it stated "serve up to half of her jail term in custody". So rather than her serving a minimum of 9 months in jail, that is actually the maximum amount of time she may serve. She will likely be out after 5-6 months assuming she doesn't do anything stupid while locked up.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/01/16 05:00 AM
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