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Yes, but take things one at a time. Learn in bite sized chunks. Part of the reason some people go the "just be good looking bro" route is because learning all these nuances can get overcomplicated fast if you don't approach it in a slow, deliberate manner. Look up: Coach Kyle, Surgical Pickup, Todd V - they're all great on technical game
/r/seduction19/01/20 12:21 PM
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let me somewhat elaborate on each of them and why they matter according to the context direct: learning where being direct helps... matters, because even if you're a good looking guy who a girl is attracted to, cutting to the chase is often important. There are good looking guys who a girl crushes on, who never ends up with said girl because they beat around the bush too much and the girl eventually gave up. In a cold approach context...you often DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME to get with the girl, so cut…
/r/seduction19/01/20 09:08 AM
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At that point, it doesn't matter if he's direct, indirect, serious, playful, shows intent, hides intent like mysterymethod, makes assumptions, uses interview mode etc etc. She's attracted. He just needs to escalate and not completely creep her out /u/jspen110 /u/IntrepidFoot is exaggerating here, it's not quite *that* simple even though there's a grain of truth in the importance of escalation and not creeping her out. ​ Everything he mentioned has some importance too - EVEN IF A GIRL IS ALREADY …
/r/seduction19/01/20 08:43 AM
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It's a real shame this post got upvoted so much. Shows how the userbase is going down the drain. I recommend that people reading this, if they want to *truly learn*, to just skip ahead to blogs like WestIndianArchie, books like 'Magic Bullets' , 'Revelation', etc. My core response to the OP is "it's not all about you and how comfortable you need to feel, you're not entitled to not being burdened with cold approaches it in the same way I'm not entitled to women acting perfectly when it comes to s…
/r/seduction15/11/19 06:07 AM
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"I'm not really into night life so not really interested in night game. " ​ You're going to have to make yourself into nightlife then and/or become solid at online game. Daygame is only a viable thing in places that aren't mostly deserted. It's a waste of time otherwise. ​ If you want to stick with daygame, your only option is to move to a better city. I hear Austin is decent. NYC, Miami, Chicago, Las Vegas, and Los Angeles are also all stellar. I guess you can throw Boston into the mix as well.
/r/seduction22/06/19 12:42 AM
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Thank you very much for you answer.
/r/seduction07/05/19 02:43 AM
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/u/WIA20XX I follow your website closely, and greatly respect your posts from nextasf and the RooshVForum, so I'd love to see you chime in on this
/r/seduction06/05/19 08:47 AM
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Where have you seen it bashed? I've seen some low star Amazon reviews for it, but the same thing applies to every book. ​ " where it really shines in my opinion is how the material is presented and ordered " ​ Yep, it's really one of the best books out there. I recommend it to every beginner. It's said that it isn't the go-to option. Wayyyy too many people worship Models by Mark Manson or get stuck in the RSD youtube funnel. ​
/r/seduction01/09/18 05:19 AM
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" I used to swear by Magic Bullets. But MM is so better written, simpler, and has some concepts I feel are missing from MB. " ​ Wait, really? I figured it was the other way round.
/r/seduction31/08/18 03:39 AM
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The shift to a "much more natural approach" was arguably a bad thing. I regret following 'Models.' It's the most overrated book of all time. The pendulum hasn't swung back yet, but I think it is starting to swing back, and that's a good thing.
/r/seduction18/08/18 02:12 AM
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exactly. You should write a review of it on Amazon. Your sentiment is shared by a few other people: https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R9AJSOVQYL5HJ/ref=cm_cr_othr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1463750358 https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3L8YJIHWOQ114/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1463750358 https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3CL08AQ2FS45A/ref=cm_cr_othr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1463750358
/r/seduction23/07/18 08:41 PM
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yep, it's annoying how much that book gets worshipped and even touted as "the only book you should read, all others are damaging" when other books have been far more helpful
/r/seduction23/07/18 06:25 PM
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I'm 22 days late, but I agree 100% with /u/masteryido 's opinion on Models
/r/seduction23/07/18 06:01 PM
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/u/zenplus It's a mistake to ask this question in this subreddit. From what I can tell, most people here have little to no experience with PUA other than reading a few articles on it, or reading "The Game" out of curiosity one time back in the late 2000s. "But it seems to me its just spam approaching." That's totally wrong. There's so much more to it than "spam approaching." The ones who actually know what they're doing won't even spam approach, because they don't need to. Look up Todd Valentine…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 03:01 PM
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I think the PUA community back in the day deliberately used such jargon to distinguish themselves from everyone else. It started out on the old IRC/Usenet channels in the late 1990s/early 2000s after all, when people on the Internet were less self-aware on average than they are now .
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 04:32 PM
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it's been years since I read any of that. I do get field reports from some friends in the NYC PUA community I know in real life that are pretty realistic though, especially given the fact that I've seen them do the same things they write about in person. here's a recent example - does this seem realistic to you? Keep in mind I've been with this guy in person and seen him do very well with cold approach. The first day I met him, I approached this one girl, hit it off with her, introduced her to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 04:25 PM
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Interesting, could you give some examples? I wouldn't be surprised if their belief as to what the girl is thinking/feeling can be way off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 04:16 PM
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I haven't read any TRP FRs in a while, though that's because I almost never even browse the sub these days. Part of the reason why they seem embellished might be because they're written in such a way to make the writer look good, or to prove a certain point. For instance, I can write a story about how abusive one of my professors used to be, and because I'll focus on all the details that make him look like a PoS to prove a point, it can look a bit exaggerated. Likewise, if I write a story about …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 03:59 PM
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ah, that makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 03:01 PM
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" Clubs have atleast 4 men for every woman. " So? The thread used the word 'mingle.' Even if there's a lopsided gender ratio, you're still mingling with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 01:59 PM
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"How does every person on TRP" I hate to be pedantic, but obviously not 'every' person on there mingles with 7+'s. I'm sure there's a portion in basement dweller mode. Obviously, the most upvoted posts will be success stories. Now, it shouldn't be far fetched to assume that many of them do. I'm guessing you live in some small town in middle America? My perspective is a bit skewed by living in NYC. While my neighborhood is mediocre, I can take a trip to a few nearby college campuses and see 7+'s …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 01:58 PM
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I pretty much only do daygame because of my schedule. I've done thousands of daygame approaches. Pretty successful with them. Wouldn't have it any other way, though soon enough I'll branch out to nightgame and online game. Instead of explaining how I do it, I'll just refer you to these: https://krauserpua.com/ https://tddaygame.com/ https://tomtorero.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Sehh-yD-c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaQXHAXsImk
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 11:23 AM
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'radical honesty' in that sense has its uses, but IMO he overemphasizes its importance
/r/seduction22/03/18 12:58 PM
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it's the most overrated book of all time, let me refer to my other answers on the topic https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/81qvut/to_tell_the_truth_or_not_a_contradiction_between/dv4pw9b/ https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/80zy2t/frustrated_with_models_by_mark_manson/duzqkkq/ summary: there are some good things about the book (I'd still recommend reading it), but isn't the ONLY book you should read. There are so many other guides and gurus of value out there, but Manson and Man…
/r/seduction22/03/18 09:14 AM
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Since 2013? When it comes to daygame and nightgame, mostly rehashes of older material packaged with more up-to-date aesthetics and marketing. If you watch vids from RSD Max's "The Natural" for instance, the biggest difference between that and older guides is the fact that it uses an HD Camera. There have been strides made when it comes to the subject of online game and social circle game. Check out RSD Jeffy and Alex Vilenchik for online game guides. Check out RSD Luke for social circle and soci…
/r/seduction21/03/18 09:34 PM
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if things work out between you and him I'd love for you to make a new thread about it female POVs can be very interesting and valuable
/r/seduction16/03/18 04:45 PM
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Ah, so you met through social circle? That makes it less likely that he's into PUA, though it's still possible. He couldnt stop talking and trying to make me laugh. He seemed nervous. that seems like basic guy game It was clear he wanted to let me wanting more! yeah, I mean he could still be into PUA, but chances are he isn't
/r/seduction16/03/18 03:40 PM
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Weirdest dates I have been invited to EVER, and im not even sure if they were dates, but we kissed. And he held my hand, and he looked at me nonstop. Some people in the community do try to make their dates nonconventional in order to stand out from the regular boring old coffee/bar dates. What do you exactly mean by 'weird' though? But he never asked me out during the night, neither during weekdays or weekends. So I got tired. A week ago he told me that he was at a waterfall and that we should g…
/r/seduction16/03/18 09:15 AM
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What country are you from? I actually don't get flak from female friends for being into RSD/game over here in the USA.
/r/seduction14/03/18 11:29 PM
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because when you start out, the more experience with women in general the better When guys get better though and figure out what they really want, they're better off not wasting their time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 09:50 PM
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When I think of "Fuck yes" I think that if she's at a "maybe", she should be moving towards a yes that is very clear. If she's not, there's not much you can do. yeah, I agree. I don't think that's what "fuck yes" implies though. I think this advice is very good for beginners because it teaches them to focus on the women who actually want them, and not on trying to "win over" women who they have no chance with ever That can be valuable experience though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 09:08 PM
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Interest is a "Fuck yes". I don't believe there's much you can do to change a woman's mind about whether she thinks you're attractive or not. The thing is there's a difference between "Fuck yes" and "maybe, probably yes," and a further difference between "maybe, probably yes" and "no." There are lots of women who otherwise would be great for you and you for her, who you will thoughtlessly turn aside just because they didn't seem "fuck yes."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 07:55 PM
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Neil Strauss is a compelling writer but IMO he's a shit teacher. "The Game" is a fun, well-written, motivating story but almost useless as a game guide. It's also written from Neil's perspective and there are many people who dispute his version of the story. I never read "The Rules of the Game" but from what I hear of it, it's mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 07:00 PM
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Mark Manson achieved his initial successes through the old school PUA community. He wrote "Models" as mostly feel good material to appeal to guys who don't like the complexity of PUA and to appeal to his female fanbase. BTW, what forms of PUA have you actually tried ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 06:55 PM
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Yeah, I like some of what Mark Manson has to say, but I don't like the idea that people should just read his stuff and ignore everything else. For instance, I think "fuck yes or no" is a horrible idea if you're a beginner. Beyond horrible. If you're a beginner, you should be interacting with as many women as possible, and trying to fuck the ones who are attractive enough (who aren't your coworkers), so that you can learn from experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 06:54 PM
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Read everything Mark Manson writes. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 06:47 PM
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Absolutely. Coming across PUA and the overlapping personal development material associated with it is one of the best things that ever happened to me. I was on a shitload of anti-anxiety/anti-depression meds just 4 years ago. Sometimes I get the feeling that I'm now in the minority when it comes to not having anxiety/depression (in some circles, that's pretty much true). There are few things that kill anxiety like knowing that you've managed to have sex with random girls you've met off the stree…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 06:46 PM
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When a girl tries to play games with me. I want to be one step head, reverse things play games with her, make her want me. This can be learned, thankfully. However, it's going to take experience and an a willingness to learn as much from experience as possible. But sadly atm I'm the type of guy that when a girl goes after me. I start showing more interest in her, more then she does for me I would end up dumped. Yeah, it's a balancing act. There are also certain things about it that you might not…
/r/seduction08/03/18 05:16 AM
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ok, so...in order read "The Game" by Neil Strauss to get inspired (it's not actually a guide, it's a compelling story that will make you want to study PUA) read "Magic Bullets" on Facebook, look up the RSD Inner Circle in your area, then join it, then find a reliable wingman who can show you the ropes
/r/seduction08/03/18 05:10 AM
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So true
/r/seduction06/03/18 09:54 PM
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Exactly right! So fucking true. I'm glad to see my sentiments catching on in this subreddit.
/r/seduction06/03/18 09:54 PM
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my sentiments exactly I also recommend that newbies start with Magic Bullets lol
/r/seduction06/03/18 09:53 PM
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But, my biggest gains came when I stopped reading r/seduction, quit reading books like Models or Magic Bullets, stopped watching RSD videos, and just started going out with the intention of learning. Well, yeah. There's a reason Mark Manson, Love Systems, and RSD stress the importance of going out. That doesn't mean you should stop reading/watching/listening to guides however. You just have to digest them one bite at a time, while you take action on a regular basis.
/r/seduction05/03/18 08:36 PM
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You really are a fool. Go home, go hide and go jerk yourself. lol it's ok I'll have this girl do it for me Arguing like above don't make you a playboy. It just makes you argumentative. lol idk but it is funny though Good luck asshole. Thank you. =) Don't fall prey to confirmation bias. lol
/r/seduction04/03/18 07:27 PM
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Yeah, people who don't talk to random girls have no idea how much of a no-risk activity is actually is. Boyfriends tend to either be friendly or awkward pushovers in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 04:02 PM
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It's a bit of a non-answer, but I think everyone needs to internalize that there is no such thing as rejection. Women are not rigorously evaluating your worth as a human being in pretty much every context aside from spending a shitload of time in a relationship with you (and even then it's not so reliable). Anyway, for actual answers: In daygame: telling you they need to go somewhere (it's an autopilot response; I've noticed me unthinkingly saying it to homeless people approaching me for $), tel…
/r/seduction03/03/18 07:13 PM
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Much of it is 'fake.' One thing you might come to realize is that much of the "real world" is fake as fuck, and sometimes you have to embrace that. It's partly a numbers game, but also partly a matter of realizing what qualities you like, what qualities you don't like, and improving your skills in persuasion, calibration, empathy, etc.
/r/seduction03/03/18 06:59 PM
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In my opinion, the kind of radical honesty espoused in 'Models' is only helpful in certain circumstances. It's unrealistic to be completely authentic* 100% of the time. Let's say you're in a snobby club in LA where everyone is trying to act cool to fit in. In that context, being able to "just be real" is a breath of fresh air in a stifling atmosphere of conformity. In the context of dating, being authentic as a man can often come across in a positively refreshing way, because many men put on an …
/r/seduction03/03/18 06:56 PM
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already did, that's why I give back my helping others with PUA lol
/r/seduction03/03/18 05:27 PM
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You really are a virgin. but I'm not lol Go on and believe in PUA because I've tried it and it worked. It's that simple. It'll help. I know I wonder...have you actually tried pickup in real life, or did you just spend too much time being a keyboard jockey on sluthate/lookism or /r9k/ or /r/incels.
/r/seduction03/03/18 05:14 PM
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I am sure I'd win a bet Uh huh. So what you say is shit because your dumb ass is "sure" you'd win a bet? BTW, simple pickup isn't going to help They aren't even active anymore lol. However, I did start with them..and they did help. I'm not rich (yet) and sorta good looking but scrawny as fuck when I started, and a bit chubby now (working on that part though).
/r/seduction03/03/18 03:16 PM
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PUA is as lively as ever, it's just monopolized by RSD. As for how to seduce women, there is something to be said about the fact that the average partner count of men which stands at 5-7 Most men have always been mediocre since the dawn of humanity, no shit. Now however, you can try pickup but if you aren't wealthy or good looking already, it is hard to see how very hot women will bend over for you. Improving your wealth and looks is very doable. You think people are stuck at the level of wealth…
/r/seduction03/03/18 01:42 AM
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yeah, the black pillers are a vocal minority who specifically use the word 'incel' but there are lots of incels who don't use that word and are the male feminist type, I know quite a few of them in real life myself, and I'm sure you also do. Why did it get deleted though?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 07:00 PM
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the most insidious effect of the "true self" myth is incels rationalizing that they shouldn't try to change their shitty attitudes because it's their "true self" Now, most incels on the Internet these days seem to choose 'muh genetics' as a rationalization factor instead, but those are the black pill ones. The Blue Pill incels, more common back in the day, are the ones who would opt for the "true self" excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 06:56 PM
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Yeah, there really is no such thing as a "true self." That idea is total nonsense. I almost thought I was the only one with that opinion, so thanks for articulating it so well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 05:53 PM
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LMR is not a tactic. It's a phenomenon where girls on the verge of having sex will not smoothly agree to having sex because of a variety of reasons (feels it's "too fast," feels she needs to know you more, is on her period, is worried that she might smell, not aroused enough). The way to deal with it depends on the reason. Too fast? Slow it down, show you aren't needy for sex by having an enjoyable interaction. Feels she needs to know you more? Same thing as above. Period/smelliness? Statement o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 05:51 PM
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Women have millions of men to swipe through on Tinder, and because of how often men-right swipe, even an average woman has many more matches than she can ever handle. Therefore, it compels them to select for the cream of the crop. On Tinder, that's almost entirely based on pictures, which means that pictures of model looking men will do the best. That explains the disparity between a model and an average man. Keep in mind that just because a girl matches with you doesn't mean she will definitely…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 05:31 PM
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Part of why they get a lot of hate is because they're by far the #1 PUA company in terms of monetary success. The PUA community of old died out years ago in favor of a monopolized PUA industry controlled by RSD. Some people who aren't in the know think that PUA "died out." It didn't - it just became synonymous with RSD. Now, there are certain issues I have with RSD -Their format sucks for learning. It's too much to expect a beginner to piece together enough workable knowledge from a large variet…
/r/seduction02/03/18 07:10 AM
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lmao, wow, I didn't even know he'd be the kind of person to try to get Amazon reviews deleted
/r/seduction02/03/18 06:29 AM
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You wrote one of those 1* reviews? Yeah, I like reading them from time to time because of how often "Models" is praised in the community, so that I could remind myself of why I'm not part of that circlejerk.
/r/seduction01/03/18 04:43 PM
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Yeah, I like a lot of what it has to say, but it can be a very harmful book for beginners because of the fact that it dissuades them from game/PUA (which is where Mark Manson started! He was Entropy, a PUA who used old-school pickup to achieve a lot of success before peddling feel good material).
/r/seduction01/03/18 01:43 AM
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Oh, and one final comment. Self-improvement helps, but it's no substitute for actually interacting with women and learning from your experiences with women in a thoughtful manner. That is.... Getting healthier, more muscular, and more fashionable will help (tremendously!), but a muscular well-dressed adonis who doesn't interact with women (which often entails going out of their way) will not get them. It won't magically make girlfriends appear. They will get more IOIs, they will get many more ma…
/r/seduction01/03/18 01:40 AM
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"I'm not going to go through a big review because this is really all you need to know. Mark is part of the new "Post-PUA fatigue" movement. It basically consists of advanced guys who have went through the classic PUA cycle (i.e. read "The Game", then "Mystery Method", then other books on PUA). Then once having graduated from AFC to PUA the author is now trying to separate himself from the whole PUA community and teachings and discard, with visceral disgust, the exact vehicle that has brought him…
/r/seduction01/03/18 01:20 AM
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here are a couple Amazon reviews that further explain my grievances: "I was not impressed with this book. What I found distasteful were the incessant anti-PUA (pickup artist) references which seriously undermines the credibility of this book. The author's "my method is better than their method" strikes me as a childish, dick-measuring exercise. He claims to have removed much of it since the previous edition, but it's still far too many. I am definitely neither a PUA nor want to be one. But since…
/r/seduction01/03/18 01:18 AM
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/r/Seduction has a massive circlejerk over Models I will say this: there are a lot of things in that book that are good, namely - not caring about rejection, not being needy, the fact that radical honesty is an attractive trait, and the fact that polarization can be both effective (faster sex) and saves you time&frustration. On the other hand, it's easily the most OVERRATED book in the community. It doesn't have enough actionable advice, it reads like Manson wrote it to appeal to female fans, an…
/r/seduction01/03/18 01:17 AM
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right on the fucking money, I appreciate people like you on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 01:01 AM
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Thanks for making this thread. /r/TheBluePill and self-proclaimed blue pill posters aren't necessarily the same as the mainstream, but the mainstream always stereotypes PUA as negs&peacocking. I'm involved in the PUA community (or what it has become, which is a blend of pickup & general self-help) in NYC and I can count on one hand the amount of people who have actually used negs&peacocking. One thing that's funny is that many people in the current community say that it's "what they did back the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 12:55 AM
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The simple answer that will probably annoy you is "practice and experience." A few tips to help you along the way: -Consider making yourself be the extremely touchy-feely guy at the start, to see how much you can get away with. You'll realize you have much more freedom than you might think (obviously, back off and stop when she shows discomfort) (and don't do this in your social circle. Do it in cold approach) -Read up on the DiCarlo Escalation Ladder. -Read the book "Magic Bullets" (particularl…
/r/seduction23/02/18 02:38 AM
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Many daygamers, myself included, just don't bother with group sets in daygame. There's a difference between daygame group sets and nightgame group sets in that groups in daygame are mobile and intent on a specific activity, whereas groups in nightgame are more stationary and intent on socialization. Even if you're comfortable when it comes to interacting with group sets in daygame, it's just too much effort. You'll have to obtain the number of the girl you like in such a way that she won't feel …
/r/seduction23/02/18 02:32 AM
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I wouldn't think too much about it. There could be a variety of reasons, some of which might not even be your fault. Maybe she wasn't even uncomfortable but her boyfriend saw you at a distance and was insecure about it? I wonder why she walked away because of you mentioning a semi-known rapper, maybe it was because of some other reason. It's almost certainly not a Brooklyn / liberal thing by the way.
/r/seduction18/02/18 04:34 PM
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Interesting, I haven't heard of 'thatwasepic' and the book you mentioned. Good job on the 6 more approaches! I recommend joining your local RSD Inner Circle (look it up on Facebook) and the group "Todd Valentine Insiders" (look it up on Facebook). Those are the most active online spaces for pickup discussion in 2018. Forums are mostly dead now, and reddit isn't very good for PUA discussion for a variety of reasons.
/r/seduction18/02/18 04:21 PM
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There's this guy who is the leader of the RSD Inner Circle in NYC who fits your description, Kevin Mayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrIDL0J06W8 I've seen him infield and he has great results. There are actually a decent advantage to being short and having a baby face -- you are less intimidating, which makes it easier to open without worrying about scaring women. It's also less intimidating when you escalate. There are disadvantages, sure, like having to work harder to attract and arouse t…
/r/seduction18/02/18 03:47 PM
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You actually aren't doing anything wrong, from an absolute beginner's standpoint! This is totally normal and something I would expect from anyone doing their first few approaches, because cold approach is something inherently nerve wracking, and a girl will feel that nervousness from you, which will easily lead to the "I have a boyfriend" response when you ask for the number. Here's what you should do: -Continue doing more approaches until you get desensitized to approach anxiety, which will lea…
/r/seduction18/02/18 03:33 PM
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Day Bang and the INDIRECT method it proposes is useful for absolute beginners struggling with AA, but the real power in daygame lies in going DIRECT. I've tried daygaming Roosh's style in NYC from around summer 2015 to fall 2016, but the issue with it is that the indirect style he proposes can only work if the girl is going to sit around for long periods of time, which is a rare situation in NYC given how fast paced things are and how 99% of girls are either moving from place to place or sitting…
/r/askTRP17/02/18 01:10 AM
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You're pretty much right on the money. People should make a distinction between proactive manipulation with malevolent intent, proactive manipulation with positive intent, and what you can call passive manipulation (aka anything you do that has an effect on someone else; e.g. smiling at someone).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 01:41 AM
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by "hunterpua" do you mean you do pickup at Hunter College in NYC?
/r/seduction08/01/18 10:36 PM
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hi Sonny! Moved on from advertising on Facebook to advertising on reddit I see? =p
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 06:36 AM
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Krauser is currently working with them and he's the most advanced daygamer in the world as far as I'm concerned, so I trust them as well. Note that I'm a guy who has spent a shitload of time since 2014 rigorously assessing almost every prominent guru in the community.
/r/seduction06/01/18 12:34 AM
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We share similar backgrounds. You're right on the money. Autism won't stop anyone from learning basic social skills and game to the point where people are skeptical they ever had autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 05:26 AM
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truest comment of the day
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 08:50 PM
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I'm not Todd but I'm experienced enough to chime in. When you start doing cold approach, you'll realize how many of them are much friendlier and warmer than you expect. Even if you go anywhere with them, they'll compliment you on making their day. Keep in mind that I'm basing this on my experiences in NYC which has a reputation for rudeness. Sure, every now and then you do come across a girl who is abrasive for whatever reason, but it never is a big deal for you or the girl (who likely is just h…
/r/seduction09/12/17 04:11 PM
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to add on to what /u/anon1moos said, if you do cold approach enough, you'll realize that many girls look alike It's not surprising given that: -girls tend to follow fashion trends which makes many of their outfits identical -an attractive girl will have many of the same features other attractive girls have -voices and accents can often sound identical; we all know what it feels like to meet someone new and notice that they sound very similar to someone else you already know Every time I cold app…
/r/seduction09/12/17 04:05 PM
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I live in NYC. To add onto what Todd said, NYC is absolutely viable for daygame in the winter. If you're heading here in April though, that's when spring starts to set in, so you won't really have to worry about snow getting in the way. When it's snowing out, I prefer daygaming in indoor locations, of which there are multiple options full of hot women here in NYC (seriously, you can walk into a CVS Pharmacy and see loads of model tier women).
/r/seduction06/12/17 08:26 PM
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it's on gen.lib.rus.ec
/r/seduction03/12/17 02:37 AM
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Normality is subjective. Coolness is subjective. I think it's lame and a bit abnormal to walk around everywhere with your eyes down and a bitch face. Are you in Finland or something? It takes a lot of balls to cold approach. It's something only people will an elite level of confidence and skill can pull off. At the start, you'll be very awkward and uncomfortable, but with time you'll acquire a very useful skillset along with a million times more social experience than everyone else. You have a r…
/r/seduction01/12/17 09:08 AM
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it's probably partly a marketing technique, partly a gift out of appreciation. They're not necessarily mutually exclusive things.
/r/seduction01/12/17 09:04 AM
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eh, sometimes it feels like too much work to write a positive review without doing the necessary editing to make sure it doesn't look salesy. I don't think Todd or his associates (and I've interacted with them personally) would use an account called Conor_Niggregor
/r/seduction01/12/17 09:03 AM
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Look up Text and Dates Machine by Todd Valentine, The Ultimate Guide to Text and Phone Game by Braddock, the website Playingfire.com by Alex Vilenchik. All great Text Game guides. Here are some guidelines that I came up with myself: -Unlike in-person, you can take your time with texting. You can sit there in silence, focused on coming up with something to say, and not get punished for it. *Feel free to even overthink things when it comes to texting. Feel free to "play it safe." Being a cocky ope…
/r/seduction27/11/17 12:49 AM
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"I just mentally can't" you can. It just takes time and mental effort. At this stage, you just need to push through your approach anxiety weasels and get approaches done in spite of these thoughts holding you back. What you'll find whenever you do the approaches is that it never turns out as bad as you thought it would.
/r/seduction27/11/17 12:35 AM
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I live in NYC and one of my main wingmen/friends fits your profile. He balances out being tall and black by dressing well and grooming himself. It works out quite well for him. Also, don't worry about the recent stories about sexual harrassment. It actually doesn't seem to affect cold approach pickup at all. You'll never get some shrill random woman bitching and comparing you to Weinstein or whatever just for approaching her on the street. Check out RSD Jeffy's video on the topic.
/r/seduction26/11/17 09:53 PM
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That makes sense. I agree with what you're suggesting, but at the same time I'd say it's still necessary to get 1000+ approaches under your belt while learning game techniques and strategies under that paradigm (though you don't have to be analytical about them in the moment)
/r/seduction13/11/17 04:20 AM
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This sentiment isn't new. In fact, it's more than a bit annoying that every now and then, some pickup veteran who has managed to internalize tactics to the point where they're second nature, will want to feel better about himself and say "hey guys, I've learned that all you really need is to be yourself! Don't bother with 'game.' That just works on damaged women!" (vomit) Having said that, there is some truth in your article. What I would disagree with are these assertions: game only works on 'd…
/r/seduction12/11/17 10:59 PM
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Appreciate you putting that company together and sharing your story about dealing with your ex-wife (it's an underemphasized topic in this community; many men will prevent their lives from getting ruined if they're aware of potential sociopaths). Are you going to put Goldmund Unleashed's and Christian McQueen's talks up? Or are only certain speakers going to be available for free viewing and others not? I met Goldmund last year in person here in NYC and he's the real fucking deal
/r/seduction09/11/17 05:44 AM
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It depends on each particular issue. The short answer is that I watched countless videos from RSD (a bit too abstract and convoluted and overwhelming, but still helpful), Simple Pickup (a bit basic, but still helpful), read The Game (not helpful for practical advice, but the main takeaway is "improvement is possible when it comes to sexual and romantic relations with women, you don't have to accept whatever life shits on you" and reading the compelling story Neil Strauss provides is what provoke…
/r/seduction09/11/17 05:18 AM
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One quick thing I'd like to add in addition to what the others are saying is that you should expect to suck at faking it at first. It is supposed to be uncomfortable and awkward. The idea is that when you persist in doing it, it becomes more comfortable with time. Any skillset follows this pattern. I sucked at the guitar until I didn't. Everyone sucks at walking until they don't. It's not "fake it till you make it," it's "do it until you get used to it." At the start, it's supposed to be rough. …
/r/seduction08/11/17 10:28 PM
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I actually came across that post a while back (months ago, IIRC) and PMed the person who wrote it, asking them to post it on this subreddit. I never got a reply. I had a more lengthly rebuttal in mind back then, but here are a few quick things. A low percentage isn't the same thing as not being efficient. I'm very familiar with Krauser's work. He's a middle aged guy who guns for model looking young 18-21 year old girls, through daygame approaches. He leverages his strong verbal game (very good a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 04:35 AM
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-new-dating-game/article/416267 I Googled the line you mentioned "I know I can touch them" and apparently it's Tucker Max. I've never really looked into him. If I recall, he's not really part of the PUA community. He's a marketer who later turned went soft and catered to women.
/r/seduction29/10/17 03:54 AM
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Which one are you in? That does somewhat fit some of the guys I met in the NYC Inner Circle, though we have our fair share of guys who are less analytical and don't berate you for not flawlessly approaching. Now, I'd say that there's probably at least one other person in your group who you can connect with. Find that person and regularly meet with them instead. At the same time, try to avoid viewing them as inferior. We all come from different places and perspectives.
/r/seduction24/10/17 10:42 PM
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yeah, they take forever. Consider joining the most major one near you. For instance, if you're in a small place in California consider going for the Los Angeles one.
/r/seduction24/10/17 10:38 PM
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Nail.On.The.Fucking.Head
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 07:00 AM
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I primarily daygame. I've met women off of multiple random streets, college campuses, malls, shopping centers, restaurants, pharmacies, etc. There's nothing quite like talking to an attractive woman in a crowded subway as a 22 year old kid with while everyone is staring at you and using the sheer power of confidence and personality to eventually fuck her. I've also done a little online game. Haven't really done nightgame yet. I'll start once I move to Manhattan. Cold approach is a skillset. You'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 12:27 AM
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I've caught up on some "newer" publications out there - mostly for a laugh Which ones I based that off of your flair and the fact that you usually mention "The Game" and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 10:12 PM
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"Even though I'm confident it's in a bad Euron Greyjoy kind of way where I give off a strong negative creep vibe." Technically, giving off an Euron vibe is actually pretty useful when it comes to seduction=p. The guy won over an entire Kingdom, will likely seduce Daenerys in the books, easily makes women like Falia Flowers fall head over heels, has multiple fangirls obsessing over the book and show version. Charming psychopaths do really well with women, but I digress.... You seem to be a very i…
/r/seduction14/10/17 11:44 PM
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Me neither. Where are you from? I'm in NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 08:05 PM
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Hahaha, a real life friend of mine is one of those bonafide lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 07:52 PM
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The guy thinks he can judge the entire PUA community in 2017 from the fact that he read The Game in 2008 and thought it was meant to be a how-to book (it's not, it's a dramatized memoir).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 07:44 PM
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You mentioned "Style life " Is that Neil Strauss' program? I don't know much about it. However I highly recommend you look up the London Daygame Model. Because you live in the UK there should be a group in your area that does it. Also, because you're in college, look up the book "Conquer Your Campus"
/r/seduction11/10/17 04:38 PM
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Go to the website playingfire.com and join the Facebook group "Playing with Fire" Tinder and other online dating sites/apps are a great pipeline if you do them right. If you do them wrong, they become blackholes of utter misery. 95% of doing it right is getting excellent pics. You should consider hiring a professional photographer for a few photoshoots of you in separate scenarios. Also, have someone take candid looking pics of you in the social events you attend in your day to day life.
/r/seduction11/10/17 04:35 PM
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The quad / any main area that sees a lot of traffic at each point in time that classes end. What kind of university do you go to? Are you in a big city? A college town?
/r/seduction11/10/17 04:32 PM
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You got "Text and Dates Machine" by Todd Valentine didn't you? =) Thanks for this regardless. Excellent summary!
/r/seduction10/10/17 08:14 PM
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Live in NYC (Queens, want to move to Manhattan next year). Started when I was 19 back in 2014. I randomly stumbled across Simple Pickup videos, thought it was BS but investigated. Went down the rabbit hole. Read and watched and listened to countless different resources and gurus. Last November I went to my first free tour and hotseat. Saw Tyler, Todd, Madison, Luke, Maze, Jeffy. Looking forward to seeing Julien this Thursday. Did thousands of daygame approaches. Consider myself intermediate. BTW…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 01:59 AM
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Exactly, it isn't a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:55 PM
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Hey dude, seddit isn't the best place for this. Go on Facebook and join "RSD Inner Circle New York" I've winged with dozens of guys from there.
/r/seduction07/10/17 08:33 PM
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I meant that the gurus seem to be dropping pickup and shifting towards personal development and general self help. See: Julien with his new program Transformation Mastery. It's not pickup oriented. A friend of mine gave me his login info... My impression is that it's about healing underlying traumas. The core message is that much of self help revolves around treating the symptoms instead of the underlying cause and that his aim is to teach you how to treat the underlying causes. It's good to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:40 PM
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Oh, and Chris Parker NYC is also on the rise. I've seen him post on seddit. (I live in NYC so I've met many of these people in person)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 06:25 AM
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If the rumors are true, Papa and Todd were bickering over issues like how much percentage Todd was making and how all the hard work Todd out into creating a quality program for Vegas Immersion went to waste when they put Luke in charge. So Papa deleted Todd's channel and all the products Todd made. I heard of some guy with a 500+ post count get banned for simply asking about Todd on the RSDNation forum. Apparently Strength by Sonny associates with JMULV. You might want to look JMULV up. He's als…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 06:21 AM
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I don't know of anyone in the PUAsphere with writing as excellent as Krauser's. I never actually measured my penis size. I'm estimating it's 4-5 inches. I'm 5'7 and Asian so it's not a big deal. My mentality is that as long as it feels good inside warm tight places, I don't care. However I'll keep in mind that penis growing is viable when it comes to discussing shit with other people in the community If you like alt PUAs, there is this up and coming guy. Strength by Sonny. A bit of a GLL wannabe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 05:38 AM
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Oh yeah, Krauser is inspiring. Not just for his game, but his talent in writing. He's possibly the best daygame teacher out there. I have his vol 1 memoir. One of my friends here in NYC actually ran into him in the Czech Republic once. I had a 20 minute Skype interview with Tom Torero who I also massively respect despite his scandal. He was considering me for his daygame documentary but I didn't make the cut. You know... I think GLL gives a great alternative perspective. One of my other friends …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 04:27 AM
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I'm curious to know... Which RSD guys have you met? I've met Tyler, Luke, Todd, Madison, and Jeffy. Seeing Julien Blanc for the first time next week. I hate how Todd was just kicked to the curb like that. BTW how did you get noticed by RSD that they wanted you to work with them ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 04:20 AM
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I'm guessing you live in some Northern country like Sweden or the UK. Social norms in those areas are far less open than, say, Colombia or the southern United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 10:32 PM
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It definitely is. Do you just do it when you happen to see someone you really like or do you go out of your way? I'm guessing it's the former given that you said it's only several times.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 10:31 PM
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No. A "cold approach" in this definition is initiating a conversation with a stranger for romantic intent (getting laid, seeing if they meet your standards, etc). In contrast to a warm approach where you talk with someone in class/work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 10:30 PM
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Have you had social anxiety issues for quite a while?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 10:26 PM
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Ha
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 10:25 PM
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Yeah, anyone who does it has to play the "numbers game." However, it definitely isn't JUST a numbers game
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 10:25 PM
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What I don't like about RSD is their business practices. I don't think they can reasonably enforce that contract about not giving advice for five years after. Do you like any gurus?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 02:52 PM
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Nice to see a fellow hardcore action taker on this subreddit! I can relate quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 04:50 AM
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What's that bot called that you can ask to remind you of something in any given amount of time? You should set that to 1 year (or 4 or 8 or whatever). Back in the Obama administration, I thought it was hilarious how so many were screeching about him being the anti-Christ. These delusions about how Russia hacked the election are even funnier (or sadder) because they're generally from the same type of people who realized how full of shit the hystrionic bullshit was about Obama.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 01:34 AM
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Yeah, it's not about the line. It's about how you deliver it, what you do right after, how you respond to her reactions, your body language, your intuition of what she's probably feeling and thinking -- all of which can be learned with experience and reflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 01:00 AM
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It simply isn't true. There's a field of knowledge in the PUA community that's still growing, and even people uninterested in casual hookups can benefit in it too. I've found that some PUA gurus (RSD, Nick Krauser) are far better teachers when it comes to topics like relationships and general attitude towards women, than the more politically correct / mainstream sources like Dr. Nerdlove and Charisma on Command.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 12:59 AM
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Complete strawman. PUA is simply seduction broken down in a non-nebulous way. It's not about "fooling women" or rehearsing canned lines. That's a caricature from the old days of the early 2000s that wasn't even accurate back then. It also isn't just a numbers game. I could go up to a 100 women and go "duhhhh" while looking at her bug eyed and I'd fail with all 100. I could also go up to those same 100 women and actually apply proper PUA advice - be emotionally engaging, maintain frame, escalate …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 12:56 AM
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Check your inbox. Also, I would advise anyone reading this that if you want to look for wingmen, the RSD Inner Circle facebook groups are your best bet. Check them out!
/r/seduction02/09/17 04:00 AM
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This is a great question, because when I first started out back in 2014, this was possibly my biggest problem. You've a great first step in pinpointing what the problem is. Awareness is the foundation for solving it. To completely solve it, you have to learn how to turn your brain off. I recommend you learn meditation, because the act of stopping your storm of thoughts for the sake of meditating is the same as stopping it for doing the things that you should be doing. Then it's just a matter of …
/r/seduction28/08/17 12:32 AM
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Ouch. Hopefully a good part of Cali. I remember when I first started pickup that I wished I was in Cali because I figured New York girls would be much less warm and friendly and receptive.
/r/seduction27/08/17 11:56 PM
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Ha, reminds me of where I used to go. You don't happen to go to one in NYC do you?
/r/seduction27/08/17 09:37 PM
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Yes, that's the level you're supposed to get to after enough experience at cold approach and becoming comfortable enough with your sexuality. A very large portion of Western men these days feel guilt/awkwardness/shame about their attraction to women. I can't give a full solution to this in one paragraph, so I recommend you check out inner game advice from RSD/Mark Manson/etc. However, it takes more than just being secure in your sexuality to regularly succeed at cold approach. You also need the …
/r/seduction27/08/17 09:30 PM
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The RSD Inner Circle FB groups are exactly for people like you. Don't worry! Here in NYC I enjoy mentoring beginners, and I'm not the only one. There should be more than a few in Hamburg also willing to do so.
/r/seduction24/08/17 08:38 PM
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I see. I highly recommend meeting other people in Hamburg through that RSD Inner Circle.
/r/seduction24/08/17 05:05 PM
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You're pretty much spot on. A few questions What would you have someone who is absolutely new to pickup do? Someone who wants to improve, but has never read or watched or listened to any gurus? Have you viewed RSD Julien's product "PIMP" ? How much of what he advocates do you implement? Is there fluff in it that you would recommend ignoring?
/r/seduction24/08/17 04:12 PM
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"Models" is by far the most overrated book in this community. There are some gold nuggets of insight buried in a desert of tediously moralizing bullshit. I have my issues with RSD, but they were far more useful than that book. I do agree that game is a consequence of those qualities that you mentioned. "Game" is something that isn't particularly well-defined, which leads to people claiming that it doesn't exist or can't be learned or whatever, because the definition differs from person to person…
/r/seduction24/08/17 04:06 PM
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Find a wingman from there. By the way, are you in Berlin? Munich? A few years from now I intend to travel the world, and let's just say I won't be doing what tourists usually do...how are German women when it comes to pickup? Have you talked to any American PUAs about their results in Germany?
/r/seduction24/08/17 03:57 PM
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Hmm, I'm sure there's an RSD Inner Circle for your city. Look it up on Facebook.
/r/seduction24/08/17 02:14 AM
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Exactly! While daygaming I still find it funny that if I smile at a random stranger, it causes an instantaneous click-whirr response (they usually instantly smile back or look away). It's not that we're like animals, we are animals. Our instincts and behaviors don't just date back to prehistoric man, but to millions of years of evolution when "we" weren't even Homo Sapiens yet, and there's proof of that in so many subtle ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 06:59 PM
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This is the perspective of someone who considers himself an intermediate daygamer. You're an absolute beginner, correct? Like, you just started within the past few days? In a single session, go with the compliment-then-eject thing first. Do it for five times for social lubrication, and don't restrict it to attractive girls, but with anyone. Then top it off with an approach with an attractive girl (as in, someone you would bang if you were horny and she'd let you) that results in a back-and-forth…
/r/seduction23/08/17 06:55 PM
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The first time was with a fobby Asian girl who might have been in her late 30s (my neighborhood is full of them). I said something similar to your opener. Full of anxiety. Legs were shaking. Unable to project my voice, though we were in a library so it wasn't that bad. I actually was able to have a semblance of a conversation with her, and even though I pretty much ejected after a short while, I left feeling super exhilarated that the world didn't end and that it could only get better from there…
/r/seduction23/08/17 06:48 PM
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you mentioned having a strong interest in psychology. Game is essentially applied psychology. One of the biggest reasons I became engrossed in PUA material was how interesting it was. Imagine a community that declares everything you believe about a subject to be wrong and counterproductive. I'm a huge skeptic so my natural inclination was to investigate it because I thought it was all bullshit, but ended up realizing how skewed my perception of women and interacting with them were.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 06:19 PM
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No one can give a real, technical answer to your question because it's impossible to test every man in this subreddit. All we can do is read between the lines. If I had to guess, I would say...no, most men in this thread don't have game or understand it. I'm going to make this very clear. Everyone in this thread who declares that 'game' doesn't exist or that only "naturals" have it, is completely full of shit. You mentioned, OP, that you haven't read or checked out any of the well-known resource…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 04:46 PM
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It's social circle game if you meet someone by being introduced by someone else (or if you're forced to work/interact with them). It's warm approach game if you're in the same college (even more 'warm' if you're in the same class) and you approach her randomly.
/r/seduction14/08/17 02:27 AM
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the people who do cold approach tend to be the people who aren't looking for long term relationships and marriage You'll see stats saying that the vast majority of LTRs and marriages come from people who met through social circle and none through cold approach. However, that doesn't mean that cold approach isn't a viable strategy, just something done by an extreme minority of men. Here in NYC there are probably only several hundred people out of a population of nine million who go out and do col…
/r/seduction13/08/17 06:35 PM
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oh, and one more thing If you're new to daygame and pickup in general, indirectly opening is a great way to reduce the newbie AA you'll be having. It definitely helped me at the start. Now I'm at the point where I have the confidence to go direct inside a subway train with various passengers listening to me, and the impatience to be upfront about myself because getting slapped in the face >>>>> wasting 30 minutes of my time on a dull conversation and being told "oh, gotta go! nice talking with y…
/r/seduction12/08/17 10:04 PM
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and for the record, I've done countless indirect and direct approaches, experimenting with both styles since summer of last year
/r/seduction12/08/17 09:58 PM
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I used to use Roosh's style as outlined in Day Bang for daygame in NYC, but I've found that the London Daygame Model (which is direct) is far more potent for the vast majority of daygame scenarios. It's difficult to go indirect on the street, on the subway, on a college campus, and other locations because girls are often on their way somewhere, which makes it frustratingly tricky if you beat around the bush. I recall that on more than one occasion, a girl would just quickly tell me where the pet…
/r/seduction12/08/17 09:56 PM
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The forums on RSDNation are dead. Don't bother with them. Use the Facebook groups instead
/r/seduction12/08/17 09:37 PM
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Tell me how things go
/r/seduction12/08/17 09:36 PM
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Do you live in NYC or a place like it? It can be the culture of wherever you're at. Here in NYC I've noticed that the girls who return my eye contact usually tend to be tourists from other parts of the world. Also, it can be due to the fact that many girls these days deal with social awkwardness and anxiety as well. This is a problem that isn't just limited to guys!
/r/seduction12/08/17 07:14 PM
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Transformation Mastery by Julien Blanc is the most cutting edge product out there on this topic. I highly, highly, highly recommend looking it up. https://julienhimself.com/self-help/ a friend of mine showed it to me. Now, I had already solved my problems regarding depression and low self-esteem by the time I found out about it, but as I went through it I thought "this is more or less the solution I indirectly found out on my own through years of hard introspection." So it didn't really help me …
/r/seduction12/08/17 07:13 PM
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Nope, it isn't weird. Your friend is completely wrong. Don't listen to them. I could write multiple paragraphs on this, but all I'll say is: give it a try. It might work out, it might not. If it doesn't work out, it isn't a big deal at all. There are other girls out there in the world. Report back to me and this thread when you give it a try. Ignore anyone posting here or on other subreddits telling you not to.
/r/seduction12/08/17 07:09 PM
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yeah, but his advice is still 100% legit and every other infield is also top notch. I find that my daygame sets that go well feel pretty similar to his regular infields, so I don't doubt that they're real.
/r/seduction11/08/17 03:39 PM
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Oh, and I have a few questions for you OP Where are you situated? Is it a large urban center? A suburb? A third world country? These are all relevant in determining what strategies you should take. What are your goals? Finding another long term relationship? Having a bunch of casual flings? What's your level of income? If you're rich, feel free to take more than one bootcamp. If you're more like me, don't bother paying for anything other than books and one comprehensive video course like The Nat…
/r/seduction11/08/17 03:44 AM
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I don't recommend bootcamps. If you want to shell out the $, I recommend 30 day immersion programs, although those are only available in certain cities like NYC or Las Vegas. Bootcamps only last for a weekend, not worth the money in my opinion, though I've never tried them. If you're rolling in cash it might be worthwhile to take multiple bootcamps, but again, I wouldn't really know. Here's what I recommend you do. Join the RSD Inner Circle for your area. Look it up on Facebook (btw, do you live…
/r/seduction11/08/17 03:28 AM
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ah, in this case, because your problem has been a lack of escalation, what you should focus on is implementing escalation (and nothing else) when you encounter a girl who shows interest, escalate logistically by babystepping her to a more secluded location (so that her anti-slut defence isn't activated by physicality), then sexualize the conversation and/or lightly touch her to gauge interest, then just take things from there
/r/seduction11/08/17 02:12 AM
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Tom Torero has multiple infields like this on his YouTube channel. I recommend checking out his product "Stealth Seduction" one of the best daygamers in the world, and possibly the #1 daygame teacher
/r/seduction11/08/17 02:08 AM
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Your advice is pretty much on point. I've met one girl who was like this. Didn't seem to react at all in the moment, but felt the need to bitch out through text...right after she sent a couple texts that were nice and friendly. Felt like I had dodged a bullet. Girl was a young geeky type with anxiety issues.
/r/seduction11/08/17 02:07 AM
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Is it your first one? If so, just focus on enjoying the experience for the first time. Have fun and relax. Don't get caught up in applying intricate pickup theories. In subsequent ones you can start to spice things up a bit, but for your first one just focus on having fun.
/r/seduction11/08/17 02:02 AM
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RSD isn't a monolithic identity. Each of the instructors have their own models, structures, phases, and ways of doing things that are based on their own unique experiences and philosophies.
/r/seduction11/08/17 02:00 AM
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DC? Nice! Have you met this really tall 6'5 guy with long hair? He's a pretty solid guy, he can probably show you the ropes, I recommend you tell him that a friend from NYC told you to seek him out. I haven't been to Vegas yet (haven't been anywhere for game outside of NYC, actually) but can't wait until I pay it a visit. Sounds like a 24/7 prime PUA training ground.
/r/seduction10/08/17 06:09 PM
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Haven't read such bullshit in a long time. It doesn't matter when you get the number. IF she is interested, you can get it in the first second, even after 20 years... doesn't matter at all. Women are no computers, and life is no computer game with where you can use certain combos. This sentiment is somewhat correct, but the way in which you get a number does play a huge factor in whether or not it'll be a flaky one. If you just ditch her right after getting the number, it can have the effect of …
/r/seduction10/08/17 06:05 PM
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When you leave right after getting the number, it causes a drop in emotions that can make her feel like you came up and took something from her. I call it the "phone number bandit" effect. Sometimes, you don't really have the time to stay in set after getting the number, but when you do have the time, I would highly advise applying /u/GameAndGains advice. Ideally, you exchange numbers on a high point in the interaction, which can be as short as something like 30 seconds in, then plan out the D2 …
/r/seduction10/08/17 05:58 PM
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Ah, so you've recently gotten out of a decade long LTR! Game has changed so much since then. It's totally normal that you're very rusty after so long, because it's similar to starting from scratch. Where are you based? Anywhere near NYC? Let me know if you are. You should join one of the RSD Inner Circles for your area if you haven't already.
/r/seduction10/08/17 04:53 PM
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I responded to your other thread, but I'll answer this quickly. It's great that you're practicing wherever and whenever you can! Too many guys get caught up in the fact that they don't have access to the best locations, so you should give yourself props for making the most out of wherever you are. Because you're 18, you'll be mainly focusing on learning how to daygame. Do the Simple 30 challenge I shared with you in the other thread, and at the same time, seek out a comprehensive daygame guide. …
/r/seduction10/08/17 03:59 AM
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Go on Facebook and look up the RSD Inner Circle for your location. If I recall correctly, there is one for San Diego. When you join it, find out the people who are the most experienced in that Inner Circle. Ask them for help and mentorship. Some of them may be pretty magnanimous and eager to help an up and coming newbie. Make sure you express gratitude and see what value you can offer them in return. As far as areas to practice pickup in, I recommend college campuses (fair warning: it's very eas…
/r/seduction10/08/17 03:53 AM
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/u/tallwheel meant that if "just be yourself" actually needs a much longer explanation for it to be useful, that the three words by themselves are useless The point wasn't that "any piece of advice that lasts at least 8 paragraphs isn't good"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 11:36 PM
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A few things... Don't get caught up about your age. Nick Krauser was in his late thirties when he first got into pickup, and now at 40 something he's one of the best daygamers in the world. If you feel frozen and unable to execute, it's likely you're suffering from emotional blockage. The key is to form a chain of "whys." Ask yourself why you were unable to execute. Is it anxiety? Is it analysis paralysis? Then ask yourself why you have that issue, then keep going further and further. Sometimes …
/r/seduction09/08/17 11:10 PM
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It's not baseless. I don't even have to use any funny sounding lock&key analogy, which would only provoke an inane counterargument of "we're PEOPLE, not objects" or something along those lines. It doesn't take much effort or skill for a woman to have sex with a lot of men. It does take quite a lot of effort and skill for a man to have sex with a lot of women. Therefore, a sexually promiscuous man is generally more respectable than a sexually promiscuous woman. I don't view sexually promiscuous w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:32 AM
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I don't think of things in terms of one person "deserving" another. People are with who they're with, and it is what it is. When it comes to long term monogamous relationships, I'm currently in a phase where I simply am not looking for one. When it comes to girls I'll regularly hangout with in my life, they'll have to fit certain standards, some of which are: some mutual commonalities, intellectual (can talk with her about 'deeper' topics,I don't have super specific standards when it comes to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:24 AM
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"What would Michelle Carter's SMV be currently?" I don't believe in using a very detailed quantitative scale. Let's say a 1 is someone a man wouldn't have sex with, a 2 is someone a man would have sex with but not tell anyone, and a 3 is someone a man would have sex with but be willing to brag about. I'd say that she would be a 2 for most men. She isn't ugly, but not really someone to brag about. "What would you guess for Michelle Carter's RMV at age 28 years?" I'd say that the majority of men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:14 AM
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One thing I've been noticing recently is that the lookism/sluthate crowd has been clogging up pretty much every manosphere space. It makes sense, because the types of men who focus on getting out, learning game, putting in the work, and getting laid are the types who can't afford to spend relatively much time on the Internet. On the other hand, the types of men who obsess over the idea that looks=everything, that you're doomed unless you're blessed with demigod genetics, that even trying to go o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:40 AM
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Perfect post! It should be copypasta for all future threads similar to this one.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/17 04:53 AM
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I've seen and had smalltalk with Owen, Luke, Todd, Madison, and Maze. In the recent NYC June hotseat, Owen and Madison talked about how the pitfalls of "hero worship." How they would have some students put them on a massive pedestal, borderline seeing them as demigods, and get really pissed off once the reality sets in that they're also flesh-and-blood men susceptible to the same faults as the rest of us. Owen mentioned to me in person that someone once advised him in the following manner: to se…
/r/seduction12/07/17 10:59 PM
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It's considered taboo in the USA too. What you'll have to do, and what makes daygame very difficult at first, is to have enough frame/confidence/calibration to overcome it.
/r/seduction12/07/17 10:44 PM
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same answer, past 15 years and more to come =)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 02:48 PM
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All the time for the past 15 years
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 02:17 PM
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Haha, there's no official accrediting organization when it comes to pickup, so word of mouth is de facto the best way
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 07:13 PM
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Yeah, I met and befriended her when she was there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 06:12 PM
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A little background info for this thread RSD isn't really affiliated with the manosphere or TRP, although they're a commercial entity that does share similar ideas. I've met quite a few of them in NYC, and some of their fans (a few of which are friends/wingmen of mine) are feminists. You'd be surprised... Here's a vid by one of them, I know her personally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXfQDgwGrKM She's not a fan of TRP and figures like Roosh, but does believe in men learning pickup.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 05:12 PM
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I've met RSD Tyler (real name Owen Cook) in person. A female feminist friend of mine has seen him run game in real life. He's legit. I've also interacted with others affiliated with RSD, and seen them work their magic. There's a reason they're the most successful pickup company in the world, and you can't stay at that level without real talent and expertise. Of course, I'm just another stranger writing words on the Internet...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 05:04 PM
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Any time of the day? Well, the streets are available every single waking moment of the day (barring circumstances like blizzards and hurricanes). Learn daygame. What kind of area do you live in? If it's an urban center, you can meet girls by just waiting outside your home and looking at who walks by. If it's a suburb, just take a trip to the nearest busy area (mall, grocery store, park). If it's a rural area, same thing (except you may have to travel a bit farther). Also, what things do you enjo…
/r/seduction11/05/17 08:46 PM
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Watch The Natural Find out the best pickup spots near your local area, and schedule out regular trips to those places (treat it the same way you go to the gym). Join the RSD Inner Circle near your area. Look it up on Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/groups/RSDSacramento/
/r/seduction18/04/17 03:24 AM
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The Natural is far more comprehensive and is chock-full of solid advice. If I recall correctly it came out in 2015, which makes it pretty recent, and it has by far the most "up-to-date" advice out of any product I've seen. If you get everything you can out of The Natural you'll have an excellent general background in dealing with women in any scenarios. PIMP is more niche, I got the impression that it's based off of Julien's specific style of game that he built up from hitting nightclubs over an…
/r/seduction18/04/17 12:45 AM
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"based on assuming the woman wants to have sex, but is unwilling to say so." Sure. Women and men want to have sex. The former mostly don't want to be perceived as being too easy, which is where last minute resistance (poorly worded term, better thought of as giving-plausible-deniability so that she can tell herself "it just happened") comes in. "Maybe she's scared to resist. After all, if you've been lifting; you're bigger than her..." There's a huge difference between being so intimidated that …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:31 AM
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Everything is down to looks No, just no. I can see why you would think that from your very limited experience, but 'game' - vocal projection, body language, ability to read a girl's blueprint, willingness to lead, capacity to calibrate to different circumstances, knowing to be perceived as non-needy, among other things - can often make a huge difference in whether you get the girl or not. There are "Yes" girls, like the ones you've been with, who have selected you right off the bat based on fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:05 AM
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Wow, where you located? I live in NYC. I haven't had girls approach me in this fashion, although there are women at places like Union Square who are employed for the purposes of attracting attention to some cause or another.
/r/seduction02/04/17 01:52 AM
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Another thing: British girls may put up bitch shields (in the same fashion that some American girls will put up bitch shields) but once you manage to maintain frame despite that circumstance, they'll become more friendly towards you. Also, here's another idea to keep in mind -- bitchier=/=harder (likewise nicer=/=easier). You can have bitchy girls who'll melt in your arms once you pass their shit tests, and you can have nice girls who are just very friendly but have no intention of fucking you.
/r/seduction02/04/17 01:31 AM
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I live in NYC. It's very, very, very wrong to assume that American girls are just "naturally friendly" and receptive to strangers. When I first started out, I got the impression that approaching is a major faux-pas, but really it just takes experience and having the attitude that it's perfectly fine to talk to strangers. Once you have that down, girls pick up on that 'energy' and are more receptive in turn. I'd go with the London Daygame Model. If you want to learn, it's best to learn with struc…
/r/seduction02/04/17 01:26 AM
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It's nice to see my intuition proven right. It was quite a while ago that I heard of that guy from Ohio State. I should examine it further. About your 'reputation' - was it on a college campus or at work?
/r/seduction10/02/17 05:48 PM
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This also strikes at the core of it. However, I think it's less "seeking a balance" and more "what part of the reputation-results spectrum are you in." The answer doesn't always lie in the middle.
/r/seduction05/02/17 03:11 PM
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Oh yeah, I think that strikes at the core of it.
/r/seduction05/02/17 03:10 PM
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Ha, that certainly is a factor.
/r/seduction05/02/17 03:10 PM
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Yeah, right on. Extreme over consumption of information is an extremely common problem these days that isn't emphasized enough. It reminds me of how people generally didn't care about smoking back in the day, but do now because of a greater awareness of its effects. I wonder what the Internet's effects on people's capacity to focus will do to society when compounded for another decade or so.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/16 01:23 AM
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It's one of the most valuable pieces of advice you'll ever get in this day and age. That's why it's upvoted.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/16 04:59 PM
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Seriously, they just need to give it a try to see how the OP's advice is one of the most important to apply in this day and age.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/16 04:57 PM
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This is one of the best pieces of advice to implement in this day and age. It's the "Information Age" after all, so why not learn to control how you consume it? There's a reason many religions recommend fasting. It makes you appreciate food so much more. The same thing applies to consuming information. I've found that I did it so unselectively that I didn't get much out of it. One disturbing epiphany I had came from asking myself this question - do I even remember what I read on the Internet yes…
/r/TheRedPill27/12/16 04:55 PM
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It's probably because real emergencies happen very rarely, and unless the OP is a doctor or a cop, he doesn't have to be responsible for those kinds of situations.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/16 04:44 PM
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I'm pretty surprised to see so many users react so antagonistically, but I guess I shouldn't be. Being extremely addicted to the consumption of information is the norm, and as you can see, many users here are acting like you're proposing an end to their way of life. I've experimented with going entire days without using my smartphone, and I've felt so much more aware and perceptive and creative. It was refreshing. If the mind spends too much energy consuming information, it detracts from the amo…
/r/TheRedPill27/12/16 04:41 PM
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The gist of his advice is to reign in your impulse to consume information on a whim. Responding to posts quickly doesn't necessarily contradict that. Maybe he scheduled himself on the Internet in the same span of time the posts happened to come.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/16 04:32 PM
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Neil Strauss was a professional writer and journalist before he ever became a part of the seduction community. He knows how to write a compelling story, and I'm sure he recognizes that he needed to stretch the truth a bit in order to write one, because reality is often a bit too boring to be made into a proper bestseller. Pickup was never the same after the release of that book. From what I recall of The Game (which I read before ever delving into RSD), it came across as less of an honestly writ…
/r/seduction05/11/16 06:46 PM
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