Are_Ya_Sure Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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1	Women Owe Almost $400 Billion More in Student Debt Than Men Do. You Can Blame That on the Patriarchy. (Glamour mag) I snickered a bit at the surname of the feminist “Deborah Vagins”.	/r/MensRights	27/05/18 12:00 PM
1	Female cable customer forced oral sex on repairman and threatened to turn the story on him I am not a US lawyer, but I think strictly speaking that is a definition for statistical purposes, not a legal definition. US federal law does not use the term “rape” but talks of “sexual abuse” for non-consensual “sexual acts”. State law definitions may vary.	/r/MensRights	27/05/18 10:38 AM
1	Female cable customer forced oral sex on repairman and threatened to turn the story on him Well, I don’t have anything against male dolls for women as such. I just wasn’t sure if that was the point, that women would not commit such assault, if they had access to willing “subjects”. I don’t mean this as any kind of moral statement, more as a matter of factly shrug of the shoulder: I think the vast majority of them already do, they are called “men”.	/r/MensRights	26/05/18 08:54 AM
3	Female cable customer forced oral sex on repairman and threatened to turn the story on him For her?	/r/MensRights	26/05/18 08:40 AM
2	Female cable customer forced oral sex on repairman and threatened to turn the story on him Like I said, I don’t know about New York law, but legal distinctions can exist for a multitude of reasons. Some exist for purely historical reasons, others because you want to reserve the most severe sanctions for the most severe cases, and because there needs to be precise definitions of where the bar is for when we decide to sanction something. I mean, when feminists want to lump together a man saying “hi” to a woman on a bus stop as being the same as genuine cases of “sexual harassment”, you …	/r/MensRights	26/05/18 08:39 AM
1	Female cable customer forced oral sex on repairman and threatened to turn the story on him See my answer to shadowknuxem. If it’s not rape, it does not necessarily make it legal, it is most likely be covered by a different subsection of the penal code.	/r/MensRights	26/05/18 08:29 AM
3	Female cable customer forced oral sex on repairman and threatened to turn the story on him I am a lawyer, and the answer to that question depends on your jurisdiction. I have no idea what the definition is in New York, but if it is of any interest, in my jurisdiction, you would be right: Rape is sexual intercourse through use of force or the threat of use of force where “sexual intercourse” is defined as the insertion of the penis into the vagina. It is gender neutral, so a woman can rape a man, but anal penetration, or penetration of the vagina with (other) objects would not be cover…	/r/MensRights	26/05/18 08:27 AM
1	I even explained down below that this had happened to me, and Facebook and their SJWs just hate men it seems like... False rapes accusations don’t get you in trouble, but stating the fact that men are often the victim of false accusations by jealous or hormonal women will! GG (remove if not allowed) Examples?	/r/MensRights	20/05/18 05:34 PM
2	Questions for left-leaning MRAs As a Scandinavian, I am sick of Americans who place the Netherlands in Scandinavia. I don’t know your definition of universal healthcare, but I think we have it in Denmark, wait: Yes, I just checked my wallet, and yes, my health insurance card which the government sends me paid by taxes, is still there.	/r/MensRights	20/05/18 07:34 AM
8	I even explained down below that this had happened to me, and Facebook and their SJWs just hate men it seems like... False rapes accusations don’t get you in trouble, but stating the fact that men are often the victim of false accusations by jealous or hormonal women will! GG (remove if not allowed) Forgive, but I am unsure of the problem: It’s not like OP had a well balanced piece about false accusations with lots of citations removed because feminism and man hate. It’s just the removal of a crude comment, and little of value has been kept from the masses. I don’t frequent Facebook much. Does FB have tons of women making crude comments about rape like “when the girl won’t fuck you, just rape her”, which Facebook then lets stand? If so, I appreciate an inconsistency, and they should also re…	/r/MensRights	20/05/18 07:12 AM
2	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours Yeah, it’s ridiculous that some MRAs seem to agree with feminists in this false dichotomy of “who do you believe, the man or the woman, you must choose, either or”. “Belief” in either party has no place in the legal system nor in public discourse.	/r/MensRights	20/05/18 06:53 AM
1	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours Sighs. I am not using any strawman: The article was tagged “False accusations”, ffs. Because of this, I made the very first reply to the story: I am not sure how this is about men’s rights, false accusations in particular? Isn’t it just a “he said-she said-situation results in acquittal as it should”? It’s not “man convicted although no evidence” or “although evidence proves she lied, she faces no consequences”? People started dovnvoting my question, so I assumed this was the main opinion and th…	/r/MensRights	20/05/18 06:08 AM
0	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours I don’t need your education, I am a lawyer, ffs. I know d... well what the presumption of innocence is. I never said “that man has not proven his innocence to me”. I was asking why so many people here seemed to consider “acquittal=false accusation”. I don’t know how to explain the futility of arguing semantics to someone who is clearly deliberately obtuse. But for any sane person: I don’t know if you believe in God, but suppose for the sake of argument: God DOES exist. God is all-knowing. God se…	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 07:43 PM
0	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours Ok, now I think you are just deliberately misconstruing what I am saying. I meant “most people would not USE THE WORD “innocent” to describe such a situation”. Not “most people would consider him guilty without evidence, so let’s do that”. You are being obtuse. I repeat my position: I am unsure why it is confusing: 1) If the evidence proves his guilt, we call him a rapist and put him in jail. If the evidence proves her allegation positively being false, we call her a false accuser and punish her…	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 06:43 PM
0	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours Oh, come on! You know d... well what was meant: If a man rapes a woman but there is no evidence other than her word, is he then “innocent”? Most people would say “of course not”. He is “innocent” if he didn’t do it. In that case there is also not evidence. Since we, who were not there, don’t know that he actually is NOT innocent, because the evidence is the same in the two situations, we say that we find him “innocent” in court. You apparently want to only use the word in one of those senses, th…	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 06:24 PM
0	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours Oh, ok, I see, well, I think you are just arguing the semantics of the word “innocent”. My original point was why this was tagged under “false accusation”, and the answer I was getting was essentially “because he is innocent, because he was acquitted”. My point to that was “being acquitted, does not mean she is guilty of false accusation”. Should I have avoided the word “innocent”? Perhaps, but I thought it was clear from context.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 05:52 PM
1	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours Yeah, I think you are probably right.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 05:38 PM
0	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours What I said and with which you took issue: If the evidence proves his guilt, we call him a rapist and put him in jail. If the evidence proves her allegation positively being false, we call her a false accuser and punish her. if the evidence is not solid either way, we don’t punish either. we don’t call him a rapist but we ALSO do not call her a false accuser. My point is, I think we are in situation 3), here. 3) is equivalent to considering both innocent.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 05:35 PM
0	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours And that is exactly MY point from the very beginning.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 05:30 PM
1	I have been on this sub for 7 years and I have never seen it this angry. Yeah, I get what you are saying. In my native Danish, there is a bit of a lack of words to describe that part of the anatomy. They are either childish, very clinical, or vulgar. I also really liked the term owner/operator of a cunt. I think I will have new business card with “penis owner/operator” instead of “attorney-at-law”.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 05:27 PM
3	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours Which means secret. No. courts need to be fair and open,... I guess, he is arguing that it be a right but not a duty for the defendant to have a public trial. I am not entirely sure how it would work.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 05:20 PM
4	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours I do have a background in law, but I would also have thought this to be generally understood. The strange thing is that I have been having almost the exact same conversation with feminists, but in reverse. They seem to think that if an allegation is not proven false, then it is automatically true, so the accused must be guilty.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 05:10 PM
2	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours I do like the verdict. It’s exactly how the justice system should work. Not enough evidence, no conviction. But let me rephrase: It does not mean, it’s a false accusation. It does not mean the woman is a false accuser. A false accusation is a crime, a crime of which she is innocent until proven guilty, and of which she has not been convicted.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 04:57 PM
2	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours They’re “unlikely” in about the same sense that a conviction for rape is “unlikely”: Rape cases are very often “he said, she said” with little evidence either way. They are thus difficult to prove either way.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 04:44 PM
1	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours Yeah, when I made the edit, I was down like minus 14 and now I um 5. It’s a bit strange.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 03:52 PM
0	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours The girl has the exact same human right to not be considered guilty of false accusation which is a crime.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 03:42 PM
2	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours Exactly! It’s weird, but I have been having almost the same conversation with feminists but in reverse: They think that if it isn’t proven that she lied, then it’s a definitely a rape. That’s the only reason why they could think the 2-8% figure makes any kind of sense in a discussion about the standard of proof in rape cases. It’s weird to hear MRAs make the same mistake but in reverse. It’s just a false dichotomy	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 03:33 PM
1	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours Then we seem to be in agreement.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 03:22 PM
4	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours Dumb? I have a law degree, ffs. An acquittal for rape means the evidence did not meet the required standard of proof. It does not automatically mean the accuser is charged and convicted with false accusation. The accuser is not on trial in a rape case. It’s a separate case. It’s not impossible, it does happen, that the police is able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the accusation was false.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 03:22 PM
1	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours I am not saying anything close to that. You are arguing semantics. The point is this: False rape accusations are illegal. The claim that someone made a false rape accusation is itself a claim. By your logic, if that claim cannot be proven true by evidence, then it is false. So what do you do, when neither the claim “he raped me” nor the claim “she is falsely accusing me” can be proven? By your logic they are both false claims.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 02:24 PM
3	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours And? False accusations are illegal. Accusing someone of the crime of false accusation is itself an accusation, and the person doing it is an accuser. There is also a burden of proof to prove she is a false accuser.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 02:16 PM
1	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours Ok? Then which part did you disagree with. i said: If the evidence proves his guilt, we call him a rapist and put him in jail. If the evidence proves her allegation positively being false, we call her a false accuser and punish her. if the evidence is not solid either way, we don’t punish either. we don’t call him a rapist but we ALSO do not call her a false accuser. My point is, I think we are in situation 3), here.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 02:03 PM
8	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours Well, that’s why I added in the following sentence “we don’t call him a rapist”. And yes, that is what I propose we ideally should do, not what all people actually do. So I am unsure which part of it- if any - you disagree with? Hopefully not “BUT we ALSO don’t call her a false accuser.”? Look, all I am trying is to figure out why people seem to assume this is a false accusation? It seems about as stupid as a feminist reading this and assuming that a rapist walked.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 02:00 PM
10	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours False dichotomy. It’s an unproven claim. So in your mind, every acquittal for rape should lead to a conviction for false accusation?	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 01:26 PM
5	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours I said basically the exact same thing below and was downvoted to oblivion.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 01:22 PM
11	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours The woman has not been found guilty of false accusation in a court of law, either. So by your logic, even implying that she may be a false accuser would be a violation of her human rights. All I am doing is pointing out: We have no evidence either way, so let’s not punish him, as the courts rightfully did not, and let’s not call him a rapist. BUT let’s ALSO not call HER a false accuser.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 12:50 PM
10	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours There is certainly a conversation to be had about the threshold at which the prosecution should try the case. We are told that they had facebook messages from him where he apologized to her for being too rough, but that he denied it being rape. Is that enough to go to trial? I don’t know, haven’t seen them, possibly not. As the result was acquittal, going forward, certainly not in that jurisdiction. But the flair is “false accusations”. If the evidence is too flimsy to go to court, how does that…	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 11:25 AM
6	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours Well, assymetry of publicity is certainly an issue. But the story is not about that. The story is just that a man was acquitted due to lack of evidence. How do you know she is a false accuser?	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 11:14 AM
0	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours Er? I am not sure of the relevance, or even what you mean? With each other? Of course not. With other people? If it actually were a rape, she may become wary of men. If it actually were a false accusation, he may become wary of women.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 11:04 AM
17	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours I am unsure why it is confusing: 1) If the evidence proves his guilt, we call him a rapist and put him in jail. 2) If the evidence proves her allegation positively being false, we call her a false accuser and punish her. 3) if the evidence is not solid either way, we don’t punish either. we don’t call him a rapist but we ALSO do not call her a false accuser. My point is, I think we are in situation 3), here.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 10:53 AM
4	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours It means he should be found innocent in court. It doesn’t mean he IS. It does not mean she is lying, you don’t know this is a false accusation. There is a very big difference: In situation 1) we put the guy in jail for rape, in 2) we can punish the women for false accusation, and in situation 3) we shouldn’t do anything to any of them.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 10:44 AM
3	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours Maybe more “lunacy hasn’t completely taken over the courts, just YET”.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 10:21 AM
9	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours How do you just know he is innocent? It’s a he-said-she-said. Feminists are trying to set up a false dichotomy of “if it isn’t proven false, it must be true”, and apparently some MRAs are falling into that trap but from the reverse angle. The truth is there are three categories: 1) evidence point to true, 2) evidence point to false, AND 3) evidence inconclusive.	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 10:19 AM
9	Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hours I am not sure how this is about men’s rights, false accusations in particular? Isn’t it just a “he said-she said-situation results in acquittal as it should”? It’s not “man convicted although no evidence” or “although evidence proves she lied, she faces no consequences”? EDIT: I have no idea why I am being down voted for stating the obvious. Feminists read the story and see a rapist walking. Do you see a false accuser walking? If so, why? Why not see neither?	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 09:56 AM
1	I have been on this sub for 7 years and I have never seen it this angry. Sorry, but I just can’t help myself: Was it really good enough for [Chaucer?] (https://skepticalhumanities.com/2011/01/18/chaucers-cunt/). (BTW, never knew that calling a woman a cunt is actually calling her a “delightful thing”...)	/r/MensRights	19/05/18 06:34 AM
1	Norwegian female researcher discovers why so many middle-aged men are now childless in Norway, and the size of this forever-alone group is increasing steadily (now at approx. 25% of the population) Hmm... You haven’t solved the problem that women don’t want these 25% “obsolete” men, so your proposal is basically just to force the women to be with men they don’t want. I find it striking that you don’t instead seek a solution to that “obsolescence”, although in your OP you point out that “income seems to be a key driver”. The only concrete proposal was that 60% of college spots be reserved for men. Although, I find it unequitable, suppose we did that: That would never amount to 25 % of the m…	/r/MensRights	13/05/18 05:03 PM
1	Eurovision 2018 - Yay misandry When they were down to the last two, I was literally praying “please God, let Cyprus win!”. Voting for that disgusting landwhale, shows the things people will do to not be labelled anti-woman, I guess.	/r/MensRights	13/05/18 04:10 PM
1	Norwegian female researcher discovers why so many middle-aged men are now childless in Norway, and the size of this forever-alone group is increasing steadily (now at approx. 25% of the population) Ok, now you added marriage as a requirement. So children out of wedlock wouldn’t count?	/r/MensRights	13/05/18 03:53 PM
5	Eurovision 2018 - Yay misandry It was the other way round: Austria won with the jury votes, Israel won the popular vote. Anyways, Estonia should have won, a beautiful femine woman with the most amazing voice ever. Instead people voted for a vast mountain of fat with no talent.	/r/MensRights	13/05/18 03:39 PM
2	Norwegian female researcher discovers why so many middle-aged men are now childless in Norway, and the size of this forever-alone group is increasing steadily (now at approx. 25% of the population) Er? Your 25% “obsolete” men who are involuntarily childless? You want to punish them for that? You haven’t explained how they suddenly became relevant. The women can just “recycle” the attractive men, remember? (Also, most nations already have tax breaks or similar support for people with children, though I wouldn’t exactly call it “punishing” the rest of us).	/r/MensRights	13/05/18 03:15 PM
1	Norwegian female researcher discovers why so many middle-aged men are now childless in Norway, and the size of this forever-alone group is increasing steadily (now at approx. 25% of the population) Not really. Now that you mention taxes, I have to point out that a doctor - male or female - in a country with free education like Norway will repay the costs of education through taxes many times throughout his or her work life. Why would a female one have an additional obligation? Do they also have an obligation to want those “obsolete” men?	/r/MensRights	13/05/18 02:52 PM
2	Norwegian female researcher discovers why so many middle-aged men are now childless in Norway, and the size of this forever-alone group is increasing steadily (now at approx. 25% of the population) First, what are the stats? Anecdotically, I know a lot of female doctors, almost all have kids, heck, my mother is a doctor (who btw made more money than my dad) and so is my sister who has 4 kids. But anecdotes aside, I know for a fact that in my native Denmark, high-earning women are a little more likely to have kids than other women (who in turn are more likely to have kids than low-earning men), it is just that they are a little less likely to have kids than high-earning men. I doubt it’s di…	/r/MensRights	13/05/18 07:45 AM
1	Norwegian female researcher discovers why so many middle-aged men are now childless in Norway, and the size of this forever-alone group is increasing steadily (now at approx. 25% of the population) Re-create the conditions that made women dependent on men, by removing the birth control pill and making colleges 60% men instead of 60% women. Huh? If there is a large group of men who have become more or less “obsolete” as you put it, I don’t see how they suddenly become relevant, just because you ban the pill. I don’t agree with making women dependent on this group. I think you may be misdiagnosing what the problem - to the extent there is one - really is. There are things you could do that w…	/r/MensRights	12/05/18 09:16 PM
1	Norwegian female researcher discovers why so many middle-aged men are now childless in Norway, and the size of this forever-alone group is increasing steadily (now at approx. 25% of the population) I am not entirely sure exactly what “system” it is that worked great for thousands of years? How would you make these men “un-obsolete”?	/r/MensRights	12/05/18 05:31 PM
1	Norwegian female researcher discovers why so many middle-aged men are now childless in Norway, and the size of this forever-alone group is increasing steadily (now at approx. 25% of the population) Of course you can't lie to yourself. No but that is my point: Neither can these 25% of Norwegian men, if you somehow magically solve their “obsoleteness”. The ketchup is out of the bottle.	/r/MensRights	12/05/18 05:03 PM
1	Norwegian female researcher discovers why so many middle-aged men are now childless in Norway, and the size of this forever-alone group is increasing steadily (now at approx. 25% of the population) Well, I would agree that denial is a big part of it, and that the human capacity for denial is immense. I actually even think Johns can trick themself into thinking that the prostitute enjoyed it very much. But my question was specifically about men who have already experienced being considered worthless, like myself. I enjoy the sex, I now have, but there is no way, I could trick myself into “feeling loved”.	/r/MensRights	12/05/18 04:48 PM
5	Norwegian female researcher discovers why so many middle-aged men are now childless in Norway, and the size of this forever-alone group is increasing steadily (now at approx. 25% of the population) Kind dane here. That is actually our new slogan: “Danes - not as batshit crazy as the Swedes”. That debate show was indeed interesting, here is the link if anyone is interested:www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5ETiMA8OQw Recently a Danish comedian has been making fun of Swedish PC, and went viral in Sweden: www.youtube.com/watch?v=11YJaE51Zxw	/r/MensRights	12/05/18 04:31 PM
5	Norwegian female researcher discovers why so many middle-aged men are now childless in Norway, and the size of this forever-alone group is increasing steadily (now at approx. 25% of the population) May I ask: Suppose we magically raised the incomes of these men to the point where women would again find them attractive. Wouldn’t these women essentially be “having sex for money” and wouldn’t the men be aware? Would they really feel loved? For example, I used to have nothing and couldn’t get any woman to consider me, but now I belong to the 2% highest earners in my country, and have no problem. But because of my experience, there is no chance in hell, I’ll ever believe a woman saying “I love …	/r/MensRights	12/05/18 04:12 PM
1	Norwegian female researcher discovers why so many middle-aged men are now childless in Norway, and the size of this forever-alone group is increasing steadily (now at approx. 25% of the population) Not OP, but I have a question: Solution to what problem, exactly? I understand these men may have a problem, and it’s not that I am unempathetic about it, but I am unsure what concern it is to anyone else? To me the only real issue, I see, is if the government extracts ressources from men who earned it to give it to women who didn’t, and then those women scorn the men for not providing anything of utility to them, that’s unfair. But the solution to that is straightforward. But I am not sure why …	/r/MensRights	12/05/18 04:01 PM