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I mean yes, but all of these are things are things one would normally need to do to get married. I’m saying you can get married without doing any of these things, and if she makes you do them she doesn’t like you enough and just wants you for your money.
/r/MensRights09/03/25 09:26 PM
7

China still has a family honor/respect culture. Chinese families are probably more bonded than Japanese, but Japanese people have a stronger culture of respect to society overall.
/r/MensRights09/03/25 09:23 PM
-9

If they like you enough these rules get waived.
/r/MensRights09/03/25 10:09 AM
2

That’s unfortunately mostly state level politics. But I hope they do try something.
/r/MensRights24/02/25 08:40 PM
23

Women are also the majority of voters. So no.
/r/MensRights23/09/24 12:40 AM
8

Our laws haven't caught up, but culture-wise we're not doing great. Gender relations in the US are pretty horrible. Also, the US is the number one producer of woke capitalism, and is exporting that culture to the rest of the world. Woke capitalism is not friendly toward heterosexual men. IMO laws plus culture matter. I'd actually say the US has a worse culture than a lot of these countries in Europe imposing misandrist laws, we just have a robust constitution that prevents it from imposing much …
/r/MensRights18/08/24 09:55 PM
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I'd say it's a test. If you're stupid enough believe this you'll out yourself so women know to avoid you.
/r/MensRights02/06/24 03:59 AM
7

Yup, I have heard of this. Looks like it’s joint custody period eh? Hope it passes. The article linked says passed committee only.
/r/MensRights13/04/24 03:51 PM
5

Maybe my comment didn't come across right? I was saying there are jealous (usually older) women who participate in this shaming, and then some men join in who want approval from the jealous women. Wasn't talking about the young women.
/r/MensRights28/01/24 08:47 AM
-20

Well, it's jealousy from women and it's men seeking attention/validation from said women.
/r/MensRights28/01/24 06:53 AM
9

50/50 time by default That means if there are extenuating circumstances it can be different.
/r/MensRights11/11/23 07:33 AM
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As someone with all of those, my 20's were dead. Finally getting some attention in my early 30's but it is by no means easy. Women want confidence, and confidence comes with experience which I am still working to develop. Additionally, as a man being passive gets you nowhere, unlike with women. You have to actively and aggressively seek a relationship in today's world, which of course comes with risks. I know as a guy time is on my side and I won't be dating any broken, used up women in their 30…
/r/MensRights15/09/23 04:55 AM
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From my own experience with female friends (and having dated several of them and having propositions to from more) that's absolutely not my experience. I can have a platonic female friendship if I'm currently in a relationship, but if I'm not there is always a temptation to take things further.
/r/MensRights13/09/23 04:23 AM
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It’s worse than that. They wear flip flops and sleeveless dresses in the summer and then complain about the AC being cold. Meanwhile I, a guy who already is rather sensitive to heat am sweating in my long pants and closed toe shoes, and am not allowed to wear otherwise.
/r/MensRights31/08/23 06:39 AM
4

I have dated two feminists. Neither ended up working out but feminism wasn't the reason. To me what matters is respect. If you treat me (and men in general) with respect that is what is important. Everyone has some strange beliefs, including me. I will never find someone who agrees with me on every issue. What I care about is how they treat other people. If they're someone who casually puts down all men as a whole in side comments and expects me take it in stride, or treats me as less than human…
/r/MensRights27/08/23 10:31 PM
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People have more leisure time on average than ever in history. And actually, the lower income you are the more likely you are to have more leisure time - people who have higher income have less, which means poorer people do have time to cook, they just don't. People spend less on food as a percentage of their total income than ever, even with the increase in eating out. Look at the statistics and stop dooming and glooming. We're doing great.
/r/MensRights05/08/23 02:11 AM
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Modern conveniences are in no way a substitute for a functional economy But you said living standards have not meaningfully improved. They have. And if people lived like people used to do without those modern conveniences they would be demonstrably better off. People just don't want to live in 1000-sqare foot homes, have only one cheap car for a family that's under 200hp, cook every single meal in, have a single television in the house and not a 65" flatscreen, etc. They want their modern conven…
/r/MensRights05/08/23 01:20 AM
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yet living standards for either sex have not meaningfully improved. So living standards today are no better than 30 years ago? That's demonstrably false. The amount of technology people have for personal use, average house size, safety (and features) of cars, percentage of meals eaten out, all of those statistics are up significantly over the past 30 years. Standards of living have absolutely improved.
/r/MensRights05/08/23 12:55 AM
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Men are romantic idealists. We meet a girl, fall for her, and think they're coming from the same angle. They're often not.
/r/MensRights01/08/23 10:13 PM
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I wasn't making a logical argument lol. My point was that if you're arguing with someone using emotional arguments, you will not win using logical ones because emotion beats logic unless both parties have accepted the terms of logical arguments only. So, you can either drop to debating on an emotional level and fire ad hominems right back, or (better) just get out of there and stop wasting your time.
/r/MensRights22/07/23 10:20 PM
17

Most "debates" with feminists are arguments using emotion, not logic. As such ad hominem attacks fit perfectly.
/r/MensRights22/07/23 07:54 PM
25

Realistically we are responsible for our own health. The issue is the inconsistency, as we are continually told that society is responsible for women's health, while men are only accountable for their own health individually. And it's not just being told, it's government policy in most major industrialized countries.
/r/MensRights15/06/23 12:18 AM
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Women can marry into a higher income bracket much easier than a man can The reason for that being men don't discriminate based on wealth and social status in their romantic partners even close to as much as women do.
/r/MensRights10/05/23 07:27 PM
3

A draft is literal slavery. You had better have a good justification for that war to institute slavery.
/r/MensRights29/09/21 01:38 AM
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Yup. If the mainland is actually under attack people will be volunteering by the tens of millions. The draft is for unnecessary, offensive wars not defensive ones.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 06:44 PM
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Libertarians have always wanted to abolish the draft.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 06:38 PM
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Studies have shown that the more prior sexual partners a woman has had, the more likely she is to divorce you, and women initiate the majority of divorce. Marrying a woman with too many sexual partners is a bad idea if you want to successfully raise a family.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 06:42 PM
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Documents literally don't matter though. You can sign a document and verbally revoke it one second later. The only purpose here is to completely remove female accountability.
/r/MensRights22/04/21 06:32 PM
2

Or, do women live longer because health spending is more?
/r/MensRights09/04/21 05:17 PM
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Maybe we should teach girls to not hit boys ? Our entire culture glorifies girls hitting boys. We'd need to start with that first.
/r/MensRights15/03/21 09:02 PM
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Post was removed by the moderators. I found it using google search.
/r/MGTOW03/10/20 05:49 AM
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Apparently it was removed. Mods over there are simps and didn't want men to to get any ideas, I'm sure. Not sure if anyone has an archive link saved.
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 05:43 AM
2

I sweat indoors in an air-conditioned office wearing a suit. I can't imagine having to wear one outside regularly.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/07/19 07:57 PM
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Financial Independence/Retired Early. r/financialindependence/ The principles are great, just be aware they banned any warning to men about getting divorce-raped.
/r/MGTOW17/04/19 05:09 PM
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Fecal matter is literally everywhere. It's on your toothbrush right now. Thank goodness human immune systems are able to handle it much of the time.
/r/MGTOW03/04/19 10:49 PM
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It is, however, very sharp and can fuck you up if you don't respect it Seeing how often I cut myself with typical disposable blades, I'd probably cover my face with blood if I used a safety razor.
/r/MensRights14/01/19 06:58 PM
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Hiring the best candidates wasn’t Amazon’s intention though. It was hiring the most “diverse” ones.
/r/MGTOW10/10/18 03:32 PM
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I think you have a point, we need to be associated with less hated people Dude, stop caring about what feminists think you're associated with. If you support mens' rights you are an enemy to them.
/r/MensRights02/10/18 10:44 PM
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Isn't this one of the first times a prominent politician has really talked about the current plight men are facing? I'm wondering if this is a turning point.
/r/MensRights02/10/18 10:14 PM
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I'm just really glad he was willing to say this. I'm not sure if any other prominent politician has come out and said anything this blatantly before. It may get other people willing to start talking about it too. I'm wondering if the Kavanaugh allegations will be a turning point.
/r/MGTOW02/10/18 10:12 PM
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What about making a website for anonymously reporting false rape allegations?
/r/MensRights02/10/18 10:07 PM
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A fool and his money are soon parted.
/r/MGTOW02/10/18 08:31 PM
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"My whole life I've heard, 'you're innocent until proven guilty', but now you're guilty until proven innocent. That's a very, very difficult standard. "It's a very scary time for young men in America when you can be guilty of something that you may not be guilty of," Mr Trump told reporters. Wow, couldn't have said it better myself. (Was just about to post this article)
/r/MGTOW02/10/18 07:21 PM
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Research finds that as a group, only men pay tax So yes, it’s essentially just men paying for it.
/r/MensRights11/08/18 12:18 PM
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Agnostic and I think the replacement of BC and AD to BCE and CE is really stupid. Reeks of political correctness. It's done now though - and I doubt there's any going back.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 01:51 AM
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No idea. I'm not familiar with the guy, but apparently he must be someone who everybody but me knows about.
/r/MensRights30/06/18 05:31 AM
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I think Terry Crews is some actor? I’m not sure. Similarly out of the loop.
/r/MensRights29/06/18 10:11 PM
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Wow, I’m an American in my 20’s and had never heard this lingo. I must not hang out with the cool crowd or something.
/r/MGTOW29/06/18 10:04 PM
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Nah, he was advocating for actual national socialism, said Hitler was right, etc. Stuff no reasonable person would believe. I likewise think Stalin was worse than Hitler, but that doesn’t mean I think Hitler was a stand-up guy. He seemed to think just that.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 06:29 AM
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If there's a group I detest more than feminists, it's literal nazis. GTFO of this subreddit.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 01:26 AM
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This has to be trolling, right? Regardless, reported. And these kinds of comments are going to get this subreddit shut down real quick. Or maybe that's your intention.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 01:23 AM
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We're basically letting someone whose decision process is ruled by their hormones take decisions that will affect society in significant ways. To be fair, male judges are no better. That's why women receive vastly shorter sentences for committing the same crimes, and often get off completely. It's not female judges doing the majority of those sentences.
/r/MGTOW21/05/18 04:56 PM
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/r/MensRights strongly supports principles of free speech. People posting here are sharing their opinions. Opinions will not be removed, but actions may (see above rules). Please do not hesitate to send us a modmail if a user is violating the rules. Why?
/r/MensRights06/05/18 03:34 PM
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The right to be drafted for a pointless war.
/r/MGTOW01/05/18 02:03 AM
2

Makes me wonder if all civilians should be wearing 24/7 body cams now. It may be the best way to protect yourself against false accusations...
/r/MensRights20/04/18 07:04 PM
10

Yup. I don't own a car, and bike/take mass transit. I could easily afford to own one, but I don't and it's nice because it make me look poorer than I might otherwise.
/r/MGTOW29/03/18 02:09 AM
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Youtube has always been a loss for Google. It's simply not profitable to have a huge, free video service where you can upload anything you want. They're willing to take the loss because it helps their other services. The innovation needed is this space is new forms of revenue to support the massive hosting costs. But consumers aren't willing to accept anything that isn't free and ad blocking is killing the only revenue stream they have. The competition doesn't exist because it's not profitable t…
/r/MGTOW19/03/18 05:23 PM
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I mean, he's from a different generation. Perhaps he doesn't just realize how bad it is now.
/r/MGTOW07/03/18 08:22 PM
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A lot of tradcons are actually waking up and recognizing how men of this generation are screwed. Not all tradcons are hopeless. Hell, I used to be a tradcon. If anything, recognizing men's current plight is a great way to move past being one.
/r/MGTOW07/03/18 08:17 PM
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Actually, I heard it was Abraham Lincoln.
/r/MGTOW26/02/18 12:45 AM
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There’s very little scientific research on the behavioral differences of male vs. female dogs Some experts have observed that female dogs, in particular unspayed females, tend to be moodier than male dogs Source. All in all though, I don't think it makes a huge difference. Dogs literally evolved (through the help of man of course) to become man's best friend, regardless of the gender of the dog.
/r/MGTOW17/02/18 01:21 AM
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In the west, maybe? But it's also a traditional hairstyle, so you'll se it on more traditional girls. And you'll see it a ton in Asia too.
/r/MGTOW05/02/18 08:10 PM
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How many of these "nice guys" are filing false police reports when they don't get what they want though?
/r/MensRights02/02/18 01:40 AM
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The opposite of love is indifference.
/r/MGTOW14/01/18 02:05 AM
6

It's interesting to think about though. Are men really just better able to reject their evolutionary instincts?
/r/MGTOW05/01/18 12:35 AM
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Aqua as a character is one of the most realistic portrayals of women in anime I've seen.
/r/MGTOW03/01/18 03:42 AM
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I mean, there is a reason the US enshrined freedom of speech in the constitution. Still, freedom of speech in the UK has definitely gotten worse as of late.
/r/MensRights02/01/18 10:33 PM
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Something the UK no longer has.
/r/MensRights02/01/18 10:10 PM
11

I mean, this story isn't very hard to believe. The idea of the inventor who focuses on inventing rather than women is commonplace - Tesla, for example. Also, boys of this day and age are becoming increasingly aware of just how self-absorbed girls of their age are.
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 03:16 AM
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That is going to depend hugely on personal preference and budget (as well as how often you can stomach having your car in the shop).
/r/MGTOW03/12/17 08:04 PM
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A civic is one of the best cars on the road when your goal is to get from point A to point B with the most efficiency and least expense possible. For people who don't care about driving experience and see a car merely as a tool, it's hard to beat.
/r/MGTOW03/12/17 07:39 PM
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That's because it's far easier to chain humor off of someone else's than to make it from scratch.
/r/MGTOW02/12/17 10:45 PM
8

Photos "without makeup" pretty much always still contain makeup.
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 06:21 AM
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That's because if it had any more posts it would be banned.
/r/MensRights13/11/17 04:25 PM
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The sub is getting brigaged - a ton of top posts are getting heavily downvoted suddenly, as are comments. Are you guys able to do anything about this?
/r/MGTOW08/11/17 03:37 AM
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I'm pretty sure our sub was linked on some r/all threads. A lot of people want to shut us down next.
/r/MGTOW08/11/17 03:20 AM
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Good bot. For whatever reason this image source doesn't work for me. Probably blocked.
/r/MGTOW07/11/17 10:57 PM
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That's because men's standard deviation is greater on pretty much everything.
/r/MensRights06/11/17 11:04 PM
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Man ATM Aren't those the same thing?
/r/MGTOW26/10/17 11:01 PM
13

That's no justification. Who's to say the girls didn't too?
/r/MGTOW26/10/17 05:46 AM
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Viewing anime though a MGTOW lens is completely different that the way most view it. I can recognize that it's complete fantasy that has no comparison to the real world, and be perfectly fine with that and enjoy it for what it is. The only time people get into trouble is when they try to translate anime over the real world, the way blue-pillers do it. There's a similar effect with Hollywood.
/r/MGTOW25/10/17 07:07 PM
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Knowing a few Japanese guys, a number of them don't want to despite having time.
/r/MensRights21/10/17 05:33 PM
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It's not a reference. Japanese people in general make loud exclamations like this.
/r/MGTOW17/10/17 09:15 PM
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Honestly, the role they used to have wasn't that bad for them. It used to be tough. Really, really tough, like being a frontier woman homemaker was worthy of respect. It was a survival situation. However, men have created countless inventions since that have made being a homemaker incredibly easy. If you don't have 4+ kids and are homeschooling them all (what my mom did) or have a disabled child then being a homemaker is nothing compared to a 9-5 job. I have coworkers whose wives are homemakers …
/r/MGTOW17/10/17 12:01 AM
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A publication ban protects the identity of the woman in the case. How disgusting.
/r/MensRights12/10/17 06:40 AM
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I would have to disagree. One doesn't need to directly experience the effects of something to know it's a really bad idea. For example, one can read about the horrors of communism and want to avoid it without actually having lived in a communist regime. The fear of communism may be a little more acute if you formerly lived in a communist country, but it's still perfectly reasonable to hold this view regardless. The same concept applies to MGTOW in regards to women. A man can hear from other men …
/r/MGTOW04/10/17 11:56 PM
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The problem with Incels is that despite "giving up" on women, they still orient their entire lives around them. Incels need to recognize that they're actually lucky they can't get women (they didn't get trapped into marriage, child support, etc.). To be happy they need to be constructive and focus on building a life they desire without complaining "woe is me" all the time. Incels can transition to MGTOW once they fully absorb this.
/r/MGTOW04/10/17 10:29 PM
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You're more likely to die from a lightning strike than a mass shooting. Worry about something else. And stop watching so much TV.
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 11:54 PM
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Warning: Viewers might find even the concept of men having rights disturbing.
/r/MGTOW27/09/17 03:43 AM
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You price insurance based on the value of the car, not the driver, if they've fucked up then you can charge them more but this really is a load of shite. No, you price insurance based on the chances of the driver having an accident. Various demographic factors might come into play here. I personally don't have a problem with this in itself. What I do have a problem with is that it's illegal to charge women more for health insurance despite them using more healthcare, but it's not to charge men m…
/r/MensRights25/09/17 08:29 PM
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"Please sign on this dotted line. I will reconfirm your consent every 30 seconds, which will require an additional signature each time."
/r/MensRights06/09/17 07:14 PM
2

Agreed. It's better to be free and in absolute poverty than to be a slave in luxury.
/r/MGTOW06/09/17 06:06 AM
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Don't tell me what to do!
/r/MGTOW01/09/17 06:07 AM
6

Depends on your lifestyle. I bike to work, Costco (bike trailer), visit friends/family, etc. I take public transit/Uber when bike transit is not permitting. I sold my car 3 years ago and I'm a much happier person since. Like any other lifestyle change, it takes the desire to adapt. But it puts several grand extra in my pocket each year, and not having to hunt for parking spots sure is liberating. Also, I get exercise by default just going somewhere, keeping me healthier. I'd saying forgoing a ca…
/r/MGTOW22/08/17 09:22 PM
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Good for them! I love bringing up the fact that I don't own a car here in the US. It's one of the easiest ways to get women off your back.
/r/MGTOW22/08/17 05:17 PM
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I'd prefer for the incompetents to be forced to pay out of their own paychecks.
/r/MensRights19/08/17 01:56 AM
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If a particular servant starts costing too much money they become a liability and will likely be fired. Well, you're more optimistic about the effectiveness of government than I am then. In the working world, if I cost my company money through my incompetence I would get disciplined or fired. I've yet to see any of that happen for the people conducting these kangaroo courts.
/r/MensRights18/08/17 10:43 PM
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I have no idea what you are talking about - I think you totally missed the point of my comment. My point was that the people who made these ridiculous decisions to expel students without due process need to feel it where it hurts. As of right now they face no consequences.
/r/MensRights18/08/17 10:41 PM
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Not good. The people who pay that are the taxpayers. Doesn't cost the people who denied the students due process a dime.
/r/MensRights18/08/17 06:22 PM
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However, we have often recognized that "free speech" does not include the right to shout "fire" in a crowded theater You know that decision was overturned, right? It's Time to Stop Using the 'Fire in a Crowded Theater' Quote.
/r/MGTOW04/08/17 04:19 PM
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Absolutely. That's why professional chefs have always been overwhelmingly male.
/r/MGTOW31/07/17 09:55 PM
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Try finding a woman who knows how to cook these days. 1 in a million. Meanwhile, I can cook like a four star chef because I wanted to learn instead of bitch. Cooking is quickly becoming a male art. Men were always the chefs in restaurants and the like, but now they are taking over home cooking too. And that's because modern women can't cook for shit.
/r/MGTOW31/07/17 07:31 PM
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Love exists only in books and movies. This is why I don't have a problem with this kind of media. It's fantasy - it's not representative of reality. Just don't confuse the two.
/r/MGTOW28/07/17 11:24 PM
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I climbed 28 floors up some hotel stairs once. Elevators were clogged. Good exercise.
/r/MGTOW25/07/17 01:31 AM
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They're both opposed to freedom and western values. As such, they're happy to unite for the common cause of authoritarianism.
/r/MensRights24/07/17 05:08 PM
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And kissing up to the teacher.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 07:01 PM
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100% truth.
/r/MGTOW13/07/17 06:54 AM
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Someone from r/mgtow definitely posted that, lol.
/r/MGTOW13/07/17 05:08 AM
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Their wives told them to report happiness. There's also got to be an element of post-purchase rationalization going on.
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 09:27 PM
1

Here's more about the 4% rule. Bengen concluded that even during untenable markets, no historical case existed in which a 4% annual withdrawal exhausted a retirement portfolio in less than 33 years.
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 06:06 PM
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Financial independence and the 4% rule. Save 25x your annual spending, invest it, and you will never need to work again. Saving can buy you the ultimate form of freedom. How's that for enjoying your life? I'm on the way to being out of the rat race by my mid 30's.
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 01:55 AM
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Just want to thank all of the MGTOW's for showing up in that thread. As someone who reads both subs, there are a lot of naive, wealthy young men over at r/financialindependence who need the advice of a MGTOW before they get swindled by a gold digger. Yes, the sub is strongly pro-marriage but not everyone there is married yet.
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 07:47 AM
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It's all fantasy and fake - not representative of reality. When you recognize that and don't try to relate it to the real world, you can't enjoy it for what it is - a fictional story of a made-up world. However, some stuff does go a bit too far, even for me.
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 06:09 PM
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Yes, because the carrying capacity of Earth is incredible, on the order of hundreds of billions or trillions. The entire population of earth could fit in the state of Texas, with each person given a 1000-sq ft. home. And the effect of additional people on the well-being of humanity as a whole is multiplicative, not additive.
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 05:30 AM
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Says who? How do you know that the person who wasn't born because of the current disincentives to reproduce wouldn't have solved some of the world's problems? Besides, "more people = bad" has been proven false time and time again. For example: Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” Paul Ehrlich confidently declared in the April 1970 Mademoiselle. “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be st…
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 04:49 AM
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More people means more innovators available to solve environmental problems.
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 02:13 AM
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I mean, I've never been drunk in my life, so I literally know I have self control. For me personally, I'd prefer to exercise self control than engage in elective surgery.
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 12:33 AM
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You can't change the desires. However, you can stop overtly rewarding them. Divorce is rewarded through the legal system. Single motherhood is rewarded through the welfare system. Prostitution bans allow women to control the sexual marketplace. The modern-day state exists to support women in their irresponsible behavior. I don't take the tradcon route and try to outlaw it, I just want to stop actively rewarding it through the state.
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 11:54 PM
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Evolutionary traits can be suppressed by culture though, at least to some degree. That's why we moved beyond being cavemen. What the West has done is destroyed that cultural and legal environment that has existed for thousands of years. And any culture touched by the West will pick up some of that.
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 07:53 PM
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The main reason men want/need a lot of money is for women, and that's why the vast majority of money (earned by either men or women) is spent on women. Take away that spending money on women and suddenly your money demands are tiny.
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 07:44 AM
2

As am I, but discrimination laws are hopelessly far gone.
/r/MensRights03/07/17 09:39 PM
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Sounds similar to pretty much every other job.
/r/MGTOW27/06/17 06:07 PM
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"Representation" is BS because I didn't consent to have a representative through voting. If you're at lunch with 2 friends and they both "vote" to make you pay against your will, that's theft. Why is it suddenly legitimate to steal people's money when it's 2 million people voting?
/r/MGTOW27/06/17 06:06 PM
2

The Fox and the Grapes.
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 05:26 PM
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I think both of you are wrong. The real answer? Women don't know what they want. The evidence is that women are getting more and more unhappy, while men are getting happier.
/r/MGTOW19/06/17 11:21 PM
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Yup. More like "socially, men aren't allowed to care about it."
/r/MensRights12/06/17 06:27 PM
6

It's actually the first subreddit ban I've ever been notified about, and I've been on Reddit 3 years. I'm a libertarian anarchist (ancap) who has also occasionally posted on T_D, and yet MGTOW is the cause of my first ban. I'll wear it with pride.
/r/MGTOW05/06/17 05:31 PM
2

Most of these Stem jobs don't require you to be MENSA material though, they just require above average IQ (120+). There's still plenty of women on this range, they're just not interested.
/r/MGTOW05/06/17 01:34 AM
14

I mean, it's tangentially related. Feminism has weakened Europe's culture.
/r/MGTOW04/06/17 07:35 AM
2

Yeah, this is my issue as well. I plan to retire in about 5 more years (financial independence/early retirement) but I have zero interest in working there just to hold a visa. And unfortunately I see no other way to stay in the country long term short of marriage (of course a big no-no). Japan is likely my number one country to move to, but visa issues make it impossible.
/r/MGTOW04/06/17 07:26 AM
3

Yup. Co-worker uses a space heater ... in the summer. I'm just fortunate enough that we're allowed to wear short sleeves.
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 07:15 PM
3

Baby steps.
/r/MGTOW26/05/17 01:06 AM
8

See also: hoist the black flag, yo-ho-ho, etc.
/r/MGTOW26/05/17 01:02 AM
72

Nah, it's worse. Feminists were shaming them on social media. The horror.
/r/MGTOW25/05/17 11:49 PM
44

Seriously, don't support Hollywood with your money. Sail the seven seas if you must watch their films. It's also way more convenient than having a gazillion subscription services because no service has everything.
/r/MGTOW25/05/17 07:50 PM
6

Yup. She calls herself a feminist but she actually follows the dictionary definition of feminist unlike modern feminists.
/r/MGTOW25/05/17 05:51 AM
9

I wasn't holding you (or anyone alive today) responsible. The situation today is a direct result of things that have been happening for a very long time.
/r/MGTOW24/05/17 09:29 PM
25

And who gave women the right to vote? Men. Men hold responsibility because they allow themselves to be manipulated by women. Men built civilization, yet they have allowed women to manipulate them into destroying it.
/r/MGTOW24/05/17 08:43 PM
7

And this is why those of us libertarians who want all courts to be something like Judge Judy's may be on to something, eh? Judge Judy has to appear impartial or people won't want to use her services. Government courts don't have the same kind of accountability.
/r/MGTOW24/05/17 06:10 PM
24

Women need to be forced to only ever have one sexual partner and online dating and communication, for intimate ends, should be banned. I have to disagree, as I don't believe in "forcing" anyone to do anything. Instead, men who want to get married should look at the data and realize they should be insisting on a virgin partner. If "eligible" men refuse to settle for women who have been with other men, future women who want to get married will recognize they need to change their behavior. Women, n…
/r/MGTOW23/05/17 05:48 PM
10

Yup. At least it's a more honest living than fleecing men out of their money.
/r/MGTOW22/05/17 09:17 PM
29

Eight out of ten women involved in a car crash denied it was their fault and looked for something - or someone - else to blame. That doesn't mean men don't also refuse to do so, but women are the worse offenders. Another good tidbit: It would also seem that women have higher opinions of themselves as drivers, with 94 per cent of the describing themselves as very good or above average, compared with 76 per cent of men.
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 07:54 PM
9

Yep. That's a Double Double, fries, and a shake at In N Out.
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 12:36 AM
2

Reddit rules.
/r/MGTOW16/05/17 01:32 AM
8

Women never ever take responsibility for their actions.
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 02:13 AM
44

Animals, inanimate objects, everything is more worthy of having rights than men according to feminists.
/r/MGTOW12/05/17 06:24 AM
1

I would think that the "preserving MGTOW" argument would be a little more compelling. I mean, if there is any genetic predisposition at all to being a MGTOW (independence/individualism/seeing through marriage BS) and MGTOW's don't breed, that trait will slowly die out and everyone will be beta yes-men. Seems unlikely, but at least it's a slightly more compelling argument.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 03:20 AM
-2

And Le Pen is a National Socialist who would have increased regulation and government intervention in the economy. Ultimately, it was a lose-lose election.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 03:05 AM
6

Selling to fat people makes sense, as they are more in need of fitness than skinny people.
/r/MGTOW07/05/17 06:22 PM
11

that would be nice if it happened but I doubt it. Yup. Cops will just laugh it off as "women being women."
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 02:01 AM
13

this is not good, it's weird to be alone for so long... If you "survive" without them this might imply you can be happy without women, thus denying their value. They can't accept this.
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 03:41 AM
2

Yup. Basically if they come to America all of the feminist branch-swinging mentality rubs off on them.
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 03:09 AM
3

Excellent point. Also consider women calling random bystander white knights (who are not employed by the government) to attack an innocent man whom she publicly falsely accuses.
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 10:21 PM
6

But of course. I'm not trying to diminish that fact. I'm just pointing out that without the government, the threat of any random woman is almost non-existent. But with that government backing, lives can and have been destroyed.
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 10:05 PM
8

What can she do though? Threaten you with rape? Only a risk because the government takes women's words at face value. Attack you without fear of being hit back? A risk only because the government will solely arrests men in these types of situations. Wipe out your savings in a divorce? Only a risk because the government favors women in these disputes. The only risk from an individual woman (unless she is actually physically stronger than you, which is incredibly unlikely to be true) is because of…
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 09:43 PM
23

Yup. My friend is fed up with American women but is still convinced that he will find "the one" if he moves to another country. I tell him that if he absolutely must do this (he knows I'm MGTOW) the first thing he needs to do is to never, ever reveal his income or net worth.
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 07:33 PM
1

Greene, 38 Ever heard of this thing called "The Wall"?
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 11:11 PM
19

So basically, 1 woman is worth more than 1 man, but less than 4 men. Thanks, Germany.
/r/MensRights02/05/17 03:39 PM
7

A lot of people there actually actively deride the MRM.
/r/MensRights01/05/17 06:23 PM
3

I apparently have over 1K karma from r/MGTOW and I post all over Reddit, and I've never once been attacked for posting here (or for any other more "controversial" sub for that matter). The key is to make your MGTOW-leaning comments on other subs subtle, rather than overt. Gradual change is more effective anyway. I wouldn't have taken a full-on MGTOW post well 5 years ago either, but I clearly found some stuff along the way that nudged me to where I am today.
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 06:15 PM
1

Upvote for Factorio. With the latest update this week, the game is awesome.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 03:52 PM
5

Personally, I don't really hate much of anything. I just don't find it worth my mental energy to hate something.
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 07:13 AM
5

Guante: Ten Responses to the Phrase "Man Up".
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 07:10 AM
15

One thing I have to say about those subs: Facial/body recognition will improve to the point where every single poster there will be identifiable, and automatically crosschecked with SFW pictures. In the future there will be no hiding from your past.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 04:17 PM
1

I could afford to. I choose to live with roommates because it allows me to save more, and thus retire even earlier.
/r/MGTOW21/04/17 12:31 AM
7

also married man knows he has to slave extra so you got alot of low income guys working tons of hours to satisfy a marriage, whereas a comparable single low income guy would just work less and be fine. This is the big deal here. Many, if not most people would prefer to work more reasonable hours for lower pay. MGTOW's have that option. Married men don't.
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 05:51 AM
30

Bill Burr said a lot of good stuff in the past. Him going full blue pill now doesn't invalidate what he said in the past.
/r/MGTOW14/04/17 03:17 AM
1

On #8, women are more likely to be religious than men.
/r/MensRights13/04/17 07:14 PM
12

I mean, no one forces men to get married or have kids. I personally have elected not to.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/17 03:35 AM
6

Actually I would say older employees tend to be more guilty of this, perhaps because they feel more confident in their position. I'm in my twenties and have had plenty of coworkers say they were old enough to be my parent, and say I should be doing this or that.
/r/MensRights12/04/17 10:17 PM
11

I mean, this kind of research is quickly becoming the way to get ostracized from the scientific community if they're not politically correct. I'm surprised they were allowed to do the research at all.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 05:52 PM
4

Yup. Men prefer attractive mates because attractiveness indicates fertility, but attractive women are also the most likely to be promiscuous and unfaithful because they can afford to risk it.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 05:51 PM
2

What's interesting is that violence has actually decreased with the increasing prevalence of video gaming. It's not impossible that allowing people to take their anger out on video games rather than real life has had the net effect of reducing violence.
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 06:34 PM
3

There's a lot of us in that thread. I generally take the very diplomatic approach in hopes of winning over some of the crowd who's not yet completely sold on MGTOW yet though. As much as some of the fools deserve to be parted with their money, I hate that it will end up in the hands of leeches.
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 02:00 AM
1

Here's a study I've seen posted on this sub before.
/r/MensRights05/04/17 11:41 PM
3

Krav Maga is the single most practical martial art in real-world settings. Highly recommended.
/r/MensRights04/04/17 10:06 PM
6

Yup, there is actual evidence that teachers treat equally performing male and female students differently (giving preferential grading to female students). I wonder how a professor would handle that.
/r/MensRights03/04/17 11:16 PM
2

Why is Christina Hoff Sommers on there? She calls herself a feminist but she's basically an MRA.
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 06:28 PM
5

Except that men now have huge portions of their income extracted by the state and transferred to women via welfare. The state is now the middleman between men and women.
/r/MGTOW30/03/17 10:28 PM
12

Currently living there now. It's amazing for amassing cash. Not so great for finding women if that's your goal. Regardless, I'm planning to get out in my early 30's.
/r/MGTOW24/03/17 07:14 PM
1

What if you include mandatory arbitration in the contract, so a court can't be used?
/r/MGTOW23/03/17 04:28 PM
3

Except that it's not a business contract. It's a contract with the state, who will use its power to screw you over come divorce even if you never signed any such thing. It's why I think the government should get out of marriage any make it all private contracts. Would at least force some people to realize the implications of what they're doing when they sign that piece of paper.
/r/MGTOW23/03/17 04:36 AM
4

Remember that the mere fact that a woman is cheating increases her fertility as her body gets excited. Women are also more likely to cheat at periods of peak fertility in the first place.
/r/MGTOW22/03/17 11:20 PM
31

The only reason there's a market for what they do is because of women.
/r/MGTOW22/03/17 11:11 PM
9

I liked this comment chain: >But I'm socially awkward, I don't know any woman that hates me. >Start giving money regularly to a woman and suddenly stop.
/r/MGTOW13/03/17 11:31 PM
2

I haven't logged into Facebook in years. I've just never bothered to delete my account.
/r/MGTOW08/03/17 06:32 PM
52

Yup. You can outsource coding, but you can't outsource first world female privilege.
/r/MGTOW08/03/17 08:38 AM
4

Why? Why do you need to track these people unless they're incredibly dangerous to society? And if they're so dangerous, why were they let out of prison?
/r/MensRights08/03/17 02:58 AM
2

Exactly the issue. If they are reformed, they shouldn't be on a list. If they're not reformed and are a present danger, why are they out in public? Regardless, let's get rid of the list. Not only does it accomplish nothing, its a net bad for society.
/r/MensRights08/03/17 01:11 AM
2

Well, society doesn't view us as any less disposable. We just do what we can to not be taken advantage of. Remember that men pay most of the taxes which mostly go to benefit women, also only men can be called to the draft. We certainly make ourselves less disposable by not participating in the whole marriage crap, but we're not an untouchable resource yet, sadly.
/r/MGTOW08/03/17 12:54 AM
1

4chan borrowed it from the Matrix too. Yes, 4chan has been using the phrase longer than Reddit, but neither site invented it.
/r/MensRights07/03/17 03:26 AM
69

Who's gonna know about TRP subreddit outside of reddit?
/r/MensRights06/03/17 06:41 PM
45

The name 'The Red Pill' is tied to The Matrix (1999 film). Any Reddit subs that might happen to share the name are irrelevant.
/r/MensRights06/03/17 06:39 PM
18

Well, going after a man's wallet is definitely more rational even if it's not worthy of respect.
/r/MGTOW03/03/17 03:58 AM
13

I'm still waiting for my regular paychecks for being a white male.
/r/MGTOW02/03/17 04:51 AM
8

Also that the current legal environment plus the high time/money cost of participating in the dating market make the cost-benefit analysis not worth it.
/r/MGTOW02/03/17 01:38 AM
4

A lot of people upvote posts because they make good discussion. That original thread was an amazing redpill and I would have upvoted it for that reason alone.
/r/MGTOW02/03/17 01:35 AM
1

Wow this poster AGAIN? See it posted countless time here.
/r/MensRights27/02/17 09:18 PM
39

And because of that disparity, civilization established marriage to harness the productive effort of those bottom 80% of men. But now that marriage is being destroyed, those 80% of men can go back to doing whatever they feel like.
/r/MGTOW27/02/17 09:03 PM
35

They just hate western civilization. Feminism and Islam are both aligned in this ideal, so their alliance makes sense.
/r/MGTOW24/02/17 10:55 PM
3

AWALT, but in the West it's on another level entirely.
/r/MGTOW24/02/17 08:38 PM
19

In my opinion the single best way to be happy is to just lower your expectations. If I can be just as happy eating a $5 burger as some else is eating a $100 steak dinner, or as happy riding my $500 bicycle as someone else is driving a $250K Ferrari, what advantage does that person have? It's why lottery winners are just as happy as paraplegics. Once you get used to something, it's the new norm.
/r/MGTOW24/02/17 08:04 AM
5

This. You can enjoy a lot of food that isn't exactly "healthy" (I love a good burger) - just don't eat too much of it. I ate half a large pizza the other night, but I had barely eaten anything earlier in the day and I exercise daily. And my BMI is on the low end.
/r/MGTOW14/02/17 06:54 PM
5

Though you'll still be renting your home from the government long after the house is paid off.
/r/MGTOW13/02/17 11:43 PM
7

I'm pretty sure I saw several upvoted posts on that subject in the TIL thread. Like I said, surprisingly red-pilled.
/r/MGTOW13/02/17 11:41 PM
21

This thread is surprisingly red pilled. Men are beginning to wake up.
/r/MGTOW13/02/17 07:33 PM
5

I assume he left out a zero?
/r/MensRights08/02/17 12:33 AM
12

And men spent their ingenuity to make women's lives easier. Now look where that got us.
/r/MGTOW06/02/17 09:37 PM
16

My co-workers (all married) say the first one every now and then. It's all I can do to resist retorting something in return. That attitude really disgusts me. Satisfying a woman's every whim will not make her happy, because women can never be satisfied. In fact, giving in to her every whim will make her less happy.
/r/MGTOW03/02/17 07:45 PM
21

I would say MRA and TRP are two sides of the same coin. They both try to work within the current system, rather than recognizing just how rigged it is and throwing it out entirely.
/r/MGTOW01/02/17 05:32 AM
5

Then downvote and move on. Practically every post on the sub these days has some highly upvoted comment complaining about it. It really gets old.
/r/MensRights27/01/17 11:12 PM
3

I was never this bad, but I definitely could have used some advice from a wiser man when I was 19. It's hard to take the red pill when you don't even know it exists.
/r/MGTOW26/01/17 10:49 PM
8

By being more red pill all you are doing is kow towing to the demands of women and what they want by trying to attract them more. This is the biggest issue. Men are willing to become literal slaves for female attention, meaning the market price for that attention has skyrocketed. What these RP men are doing though is driving up the price for female attention even more, making the problem worse. The proper response is not to become a master of manipulating the market, it's to boycott the market e…
/r/MGTOW25/01/17 09:37 PM
24

"We want equal representation for women, but only in cozy office jobs!"
/r/MGTOW23/01/17 08:53 PM
18

Excellent piece. What it didn't mention though is that not only can women not empathize with men, they will be actively repulsed by men who share their true thoughts and feelings to them. This reality is what dissuaded me from wanting any future relationships with women.
/r/MGTOW06/01/17 10:28 PM
17

This is why homeschooling is a thing. The only way to prevent kids from being indoctrinated by the state.
/r/MGTOW06/01/17 08:24 PM
8

I watch a lot of anime, which tends to be quite Bluepill. However, because it's animation/fantasy my mind can separate it from reality and just say that "different rules apply in the 2D world". I actually find film bluepill far more cringeworthy/unpalatable.
/r/MGTOW29/12/16 07:44 PM
5

I had heard that this film was pretty Blue Pill, but maybe I heard incorrectly. Let me know how it goes.
/r/MGTOW29/12/16 06:10 PM
7

Great parody video of this taking place in the classroom.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 01:15 AM
9

She literally gets advice from the men: "I can't stand lazy people. If she can't be bothered to exercise for thirty minutes, that to me is a sign of true laziness." And yet rather than taking responsibility for her actions, she decides that we need to "change the way we treat fat women". Because changing perceptions of an entire society is easier than her getting off the couch for 30 minutes a day.
/r/MGTOW23/12/16 07:12 AM
2

Noticed this on r/all. For those who don't want to read the full post, here's the link to the text messages.
/r/MGTOW14/12/16 12:35 AM
7

If someone is a proven danger to society, put them in jail. When they've served their time (perhaps having completed parole) they're done, and should be allowed to reintegrate with society. This "registry" is just a modern day Scarlet Letter and should be abolished.
/r/MensRights01/12/16 05:52 AM
2

This is my perspective as well. For example, I watch a lot of anime, which is full of this stuff. But it's fiction/fantasy. It's not supposed to be realistic.
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 09:34 PM
1

Wait, she lost white men by 32 points?! That's incredible.
/r/MensRights11/11/16 01:52 AM
17

Yup. I don't care if it's to fight the axis of evil, the draft is slavery and should be abolished. My body, my choice.
/r/MensRights28/10/16 11:46 PM
41

Very simple: it's projection.
/r/MGTOW28/10/16 12:51 AM
3

r/financialindependence has a ton of good posts very useful for MGTOW, but is also filled with blue pill engineers who are going to experience a very harsh wakening later in life. Posting anything "too MGTOW" there is a risky proposition, but there's definitely some people there who realize just how much FIRE and MGTOW can complement each other, even if they're not explicit MGTOWs.
/r/MGTOW18/10/16 09:06 PM
16

I must admit that I was surprised the article didn't overtly attack the "critics". Sad that it's come to this.
/r/MensRights15/10/16 05:20 PM
17

Civilization is built around men constantly having this need insatiable for women. Breaking off the shackles and going your own way is one of the greatest steps of freedom a man can make. But because society has indoctrinated men from childhood, making that step is no easy task.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 07:38 AM
5

Actually worldwide almost as many boys as girls have no access to education. As we can see, it is true that there are 62 (and really 63) million girls and women who are out of school worldwide, compared to 61 million boys and men. In other words, the disparity between males and females out of school across the entire world is equivalent to the total population of Houston, Texas. However, the only people anyone cares about are the girls. "More girls than boys worldwide lack access to education!" …
/r/MensRights12/10/16 06:47 AM
3

For the elite few that control it, sure.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 05:23 AM
1

I'm not 100% convinced Bitcoin is the best crypto solution, but I am highly interested in the concept of getting off fiat currency. Will have to see how this space develops.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 12:21 AM
43

Obamacare effectively doubled the cost of men's healthcare in order to subsidize women, since it's now illegal to charge different prices based on gender for health insurance. Funny how it's perfectly legal to charge different prices based on gender for car insurance...
/r/MGTOW11/10/16 10:26 PM
3

Why? I wouldn't want to shop at a sexist place that would want to charge a "man tax" anyway. Better to have them be blatant about it so I can know to avoid them.
/r/MensRights11/10/16 06:10 AM
1

My Dad. It's the only reason I didn't go MGTOW earlier. Once I got into the real world I recognized my parents were unicorns.
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 12:50 AM
10

Yup. With a 40K/year job saving half your income you can retire by 40. Spending less and earning more will both make that date come even sooner. FIRE is made for MGTOW. Unfortunately women seem to latch on to financially-successful men which I think is the cause of the high incidence of marriage among that sphere.
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 11:51 PM
6

Yup. IMO financial independence is one of the ultimate ways to free yourself from the system, which makes it incredibly MGTOW. Probably the only thing that could really beat it would be homesteading.
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 10:46 PM
10

You're likely right. I know there's a reason why all homeless people are men.
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 10:03 PM
-1

That or they're living off of welfare.
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 08:40 PM
3

My current job also lets me do this. I just see no reason to spend 40+ hours a week in a way other than exactly what you want to do for any longer than you have to.
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 08:38 PM
9

r/fi has a lot of good content, but do be aware it's incredibly pro-marriage. It seems like almost everyone on there, if not already married, is planning to do so, so comments that are even vaguely MGTOW can get you piled on. Still a great sub though for anything financial-independence related. Just recognize that without a woman you'll have to save half as much (or much less). Also it sure is great not having to get approval from a woman in order to spend (or not spend) your own money how you w…
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 08:09 PM
24

Agreed. Not sure if you already visit r/financialindependence, but I'm planning to get out of the rat race in my early 30's. Not having a woman or kids to take care of (or impress) and very cheap hobbies mean that I can save the majority of my income and retire early. My time on this planet is limited, so I'd hate to spend it in the endless pursuit of more stuff.
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 07:52 PM
1

Props to him for resisting his biological urges and doing the rational thing! It's better to have one harmed than two, and he did his best to get help, as not being armed there is literally nothing he could do by "being there". Hope she leaves him. That would be one less guy trapped by marriage.
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 08:25 PM
22

Really interesting read -thanks for posting! What's hilarious is that this entire system would collapse if men simply decided to stop giving women money.
/r/MGTOW21/09/16 06:05 PM
0

Except that Japan is one of the least feminist industrialized countries out there. Very traditional gender roles. Still sucks being a man there though.
/r/MGTOW21/09/16 05:55 PM
5

Neither do I. What I do have a problem with is people being forced to fight against their will. And throughout human history, those people have always been men.
/r/MensRights21/09/16 05:30 AM
12

Even if women are added to the selective service it won't change anything if a draft is ever called in the future. Women will get safe behind-the-lines jobs while men are sent to the front lines to die. Hence why the only thing to do is to end the practice entirely.
/r/MensRights20/09/16 11:23 PM
16

The senate passed such a bill, but the house passed a bill blocking it. This would be the perfect time to pass a bill ending the selective service entirely, but I digress.
/r/MensRights20/09/16 10:15 PM
9

"will not LET me.." Pretty much every single married guy at my work has used this phrasing at some point. Working with married people was when the harsh reality of what marriage is really like clicked for me.
/r/MGTOW20/09/16 01:09 AM
4

You don't need to remove anything - this is a good post. Have more confidence in yourself. :)
/r/MensRights17/09/16 06:35 AM
5

Incidentally, species-change soldier Harambe is also Britain's first gorilla to fight on the front lines.
/r/MGTOW17/09/16 03:02 AM
8

The reason why it's so easy to sell to women is that more often than not, they're spending a man's money, not their own. Much easier to spend money you didn't earn yourself.
/r/MGTOW17/09/16 02:59 AM
14

The problem is noone teaches little girls the same thing It's not just that. Entertainment media actively promotes female aggression against men as acceptable.
/r/MGTOW15/09/16 07:19 PM
0

You'd also have good odds of actually receiving all of your money.
/r/MensRights15/09/16 04:20 AM
1

I just unsubbed from subreddits until I dropped back down to 50. Then all will show.
/r/MGTOW06/09/16 07:37 PM
1

Yeah the credit cards were a bit off - the only unreasonable thing on the list. Having a $150K credit limit will require you to have at least a $200K income, or else 20+ credit cards (which is a total hassle). And having that much credit really has no advantage. I have an 800 credit score and have like a $15K total credit limit across all cards. Never needed close to that much so I've never seen the reason to get more cards.
/r/MGTOW05/09/16 06:41 AM
1

Yup. It's a spacial visualization effect.
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 09:45 PM
1

If you look into these latest projections, they assume that countries with current below-replacement birth rates will miraculously increase to replacement levels mid-century. There is absolutely no indication of this happening. Global fertility rates are declining, and they decline faster as countries both adopt feminism and get wealthier. Why should they increase?
/r/MGTOW05/08/16 10:56 PM
3

men and women have expectations of masculinity And that's a biological issue. Not saying it can't be counteracted by culture, but both men and women are biologically ingrained to prefer to be around men who are confident. Talking about one's mental health issues is anything but portraying confidence.
/r/MensRights05/08/16 07:12 AM
1

If you look at third world birth rates, they are also dropping like crazy thanks to the spread of birth control. Yes the drop is lagging the West, but it's not too far behind. Current projections have global population peaking mid-century, and those don't factor in the major societal changes that will happen.
/r/MGTOW03/08/16 12:20 AM
2

Thanks for the link! Really good read.
/r/MGTOW02/08/16 10:59 PM
1

This is only possible due to the subsidization of these people by society. If (when) civilization collapses this will no longer happen.
/r/MGTOW02/08/16 10:46 PM
3

So basically, after Western civilization collapses, people will suddenly start wanting to have kids again? Not sure I buy that.
/r/MGTOW02/08/16 10:25 PM
7

as if it's a normal thing That's because it is a normal thing, particularly in Japan.
/r/MGTOW29/07/16 09:57 AM
21

All the more reason to avoid online dating. Fixed.
/r/MGTOW23/06/16 09:11 PM
10

MGTOW is not TRP, in that we don't believe than men "need" women, or that it's the only fulfilling way to live life. However we still accept the basic TRP truths about the male/female situation. Basically we accept the same basic philosophy of gender relations, but have a total different way of acting on it. TRP says "You need to work harder to attract women." MGTOW says "why bother?"
/r/MGTOW23/06/16 07:15 PM
19

Sounds like a waste of time to me. I do my own thing and don't worry about what women think of me.
/r/MensRights23/06/16 07:04 PM
4

4.83. Where did I answer wrong? Also 0 on benevolent sexism.
/r/MGTOW17/06/16 10:33 PM
3

I assumed it was just a clickbait tagline - counterpoints are provided in the article. But I guess who knows?
/r/MGTOW17/06/16 07:41 PM
0

Yup. Marriage is just state-endorsed prostitution in fancy clothes. I'd prefer arrangements like this where what's actually being bought and sold are more explicit.
/r/MGTOW11/06/16 03:56 AM
12

I would expand this to say the vast majority of men. r/theredpill still does this - if anything they're even bigger slaves to women. Only MGTOW's (and those men who are MGTOW's in all but name) are able to detach their happiness from women.
/r/MGTOW10/06/16 11:25 PM
9

These are the types of situations where men have zero rights and women can (and do) walk all over them. While this situation may not happen to the average guy, there is nothing in the legal system that prevents a man from being divorce-raped, so it potentially could happen to any guy.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 05:41 PM
2

And neither of those require marriage. If anything, marriage makes them more difficult.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 05:39 PM
8

Well, actually I'm working in my mid-20's and think life is awesome as a MGTOW. Let me try explaining my perspective a different way. For most men, women exist for two reasons - sex and companionship. Sex has never been an incredibly strong desire of mine - my hand takes care of that desire more than adequately. And per the red pill, I know that female companionship doesn't actually exist. You have to maintain frame - you can't share your real thoughts/feelings with a woman or she'll off and lea…
/r/MGTOW24/05/16 07:24 AM
8

I simply refuse to believe that I have to make all mistakes in my life for myself, rather than learning from others' mistakes. MGTOW is just one area of my life that I've applied this principle of learning from the mistakes of others. I've also applied this principle to my education, career, and finances, just to get started. Sure I've learned some things "the hard way" but I try to minimize this method of learning as much as possible. It wastes time I could better spend elsewhere. And I'm not g…
/r/MGTOW24/05/16 06:57 AM
19

Just remember there's a difference between "I'm going mgtow because women won't date me!" and "I'm going MGTOW because it's not worthwhile to make myself dateable." As a clueless beta I read the Red Pill and it all suddenly made sense. However, after I saw women for what they truly were I had zero interest in having anything to do with them. So I trusted in the experience of countless other men and skipped straight to the MGTOW stage. Sure, I could apply the Red Pill principles and get women. Bu…
/r/MGTOW24/05/16 06:23 AM
5

That's because they have men on hand to die for their right to say whatever they want.
/r/MGTOW23/05/16 01:47 AM
3

I have no plans on ever getting married of course, but if one were to get married to a foreigner, stay in HER country. Bringing her back to the US is a death sentence for the relationship.
/r/MGTOW19/05/16 09:30 AM
4

Non-western countries also frequently have legal systems that are less enabling.
/r/MGTOW19/05/16 12:52 AM
5

Avoid general ed classes. Seriously though, you can't. Almost every GE class is infected with it. And English/writing classes? Might as well be called feminist propaganda classes. And unless you're at a trade school, you WILL have to take general ed classes.
/r/MensRights09/05/16 02:31 AM
7

Actually, the system DOES allow you to be a 1970's houswife. But you'll be doing that without all of the technological improvements of the past 45 years. No smartphones, no flatscreen TV, no internet access, no cable, only 1 car (And with 1970's features), very infrequent eating out, no Whole Foods and a house half the size of what people own today. People's wants have increased faster than reality, so that's why you "need two incomes these days".
/r/MensRights08/05/16 05:43 PM
2

Did you even read that link? Even if you pay off your mortgage, you'll still be renting from the government for the rest of your life.
/r/MGTOW07/05/16 03:33 PM
7

Ah that was you? Great joke BTW.
/r/MGTOW02/05/16 11:38 PM
3

Yup. As a mid-20's single guy I am feeling oh so fortunate after reading that.
/r/MGTOW02/05/16 05:59 PM
16

A 16% increase is quantifiably bigger than a 45% increase if the base number is 4 times larger. The male increase is bigger here.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 10:03 PM
11

Hypergamy is insatiable.
/r/MGTOW20/04/16 05:58 PM
0

I wouldn't view hate as a positive emotion in this case either, as it lead to war. Intense or passionate dislike just isn't something I feel. For example, in a fight I would understand that my enemy has different motivations and objectives than I do, and that I strongly oppose them, but that doesn't make me get emotional about it. It makes me want to devise a plan to defeat them. I guess I'm just not a strongly emotional person.
/r/MGTOW14/04/16 05:57 AM
-1

I don't think what you're describing even qualifies as hatred if you're not emotionally invested in it. More simple annoyance. Annoyance is a good emotion - it causes an individual to make proactive steps to stop the annoyance. What productivity has hatred inspired? I can't think of positive examples. Hate implies a lack of understanding.
/r/MGTOW14/04/16 05:45 AM
-1

Personally I just can't be bothered to hate anything. It takes too much mental energy for no benefit. I prefer to just avoid it, do my own thing and move on. Actively hating something is letting it win, in my books.
/r/MGTOW14/04/16 03:11 AM
1

Yup, it's the Asian Flush Reaction and it's genetic. A couple of my co-workers have it and I have to tell them not to drink so much, single alcohol has many more times the effect on them and they are in effect killing themselves.
/r/MGTOW10/04/16 08:28 AM
3

I believe survivors even when they don't believe themselves!
/r/MensRights06/04/16 05:55 AM
40

True, but studies have shown women have an extremely strong "in-group bias" compared to men.
/r/MensRights28/03/16 10:58 PM
41

The reason why is that unlike women, men don't tend to think "as a group".
/r/MensRights28/03/16 10:23 PM
5

Tell her that if she doesn't want to get "eye-raped" she shouldn't dress that way. It's literally true in this case.
/r/MensRights27/03/16 05:56 PM
2

Thought this was a great editorial from a mainstream site on why allowing colleges to handle sexual assaults is inherently unfair.
/r/MensRights17/03/16 02:46 AM
3

So do you classify a fertilised egg as a human? Just because it needs life support to survive doesn't make it any less of a human, right? Certainly. I think science is pretty clear that human life begins at conception. Whether that human life has value is up for dispute, of course. I happen to take the view that all human life is of great value, and for the record I'm not religious. Some say when the brain develops. By this definition a brain-dead human has no rights. Some say when it could surv…
/r/MensRights10/03/16 11:19 PM
5

Babies can survive born as early as 24 weeks, does that make a two-month-old baby born at 24wks any less alive or less of a human than an unborn 40-weeker? Survivability is irrelevant. Just because a person needs life support to survive doesn't make them any less of a human. there is dilemma as to what constitutes a baby, or a human life, etc. Uh, there's no dilemma. A fetus has unique human DNA. That's homo sapiens. That DNA is different from both the father and the mother (also, coincidentally…
/r/MensRights10/03/16 10:43 PM
8

As a MGTOW who is 1/16 lizardpeople, I am deeply offended by this post. Oh and haha lol (that takes care of your second one for the day, so please feel to take a break)
/r/MGTOW09/03/16 09:10 PM
2

No worries, he's just doing some “virtue signaling.”
/r/MensRights05/03/16 12:53 AM
2

I'm pro-life, so to me it doesn't matter whether either person "wants" the child, you've no right to end a human child's life simply because you don't "want" them. Also, use proper contraception, and understand that engaging in sex always carries the risk of getting pregnant (and the responsibilities thereof).
/r/MensRights05/03/16 12:21 AM
1

Fit my experience of being taught by feminist professors in English classes in college (GE requirements, sadly). They basically use classtime as a time to spew their propaganda. Even if the class subject had nothing to do with feminism, somehow the class would become a women's studies class.
/r/MensRights05/03/16 12:15 AM
7

This is likely related to the fact that men are twice as likely as women to have requests for flexible hours denied. Basically, there seems to be a perception that only women should be allowed to work less than full-time, regular hours.
/r/MensRights05/03/16 12:12 AM
10

Thanks for doing that. You did all men a favor.
/r/MensRights05/03/16 12:05 AM
12

Right, but there's a lag effect. Also just because everyone is now allowed to have more than one doesn't mean they will. The culture has to catch up with the change in policy.
/r/MGTOW01/03/16 02:13 AM
53

This is basically the exact opposite of what I have read. Shanghai grooms typically have to pay their would-be wives a “bride price,” which starts at 100,000 yuan ($16,300). That’s according to a national map (registration required) of bride prices—a kind of reverse-dowry in which men pay a woman and her family in order to marry her. Even beyond stated bride prices, to be considered eligible for marriage, men are usually expected to buy a house—”build a nest to attract a phoenix,” as the saying …
/r/MGTOW01/03/16 12:29 AM
3

Can you record your speech? For your own safety, I would highly recommend it. I'm sure you can come up with some excuse as to why you want it recorded. It would be great back-up material if the professor tries to give you a bad grade out of spite.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 06:08 AM
1

You didn't just say you thought of something funny?
/r/MGTOW24/02/16 08:47 PM
1

Right now it seems to be in the state's best interest to break up families, hence the financial incentives by the government to become a single mother. I say just get the government out of family life completely.
/r/MensRights23/02/16 07:57 PM
1

And you also won't be able to take advantage of the 1138 mentions of marriage in federal law.
/r/MensRights23/02/16 04:50 AM
13

How about going one step further - end the state's sponsorship of marriage. Why is it the government's business if two people wish to have a private contract with each other?
/r/MensRights22/02/16 11:56 PM
3

Yup. The 8th Amendment: Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. Of course, I'll still expecting her to get away without jail in the end.
/r/MensRights20/02/16 10:11 AM
8

I went from being a total beta, to reading about the red pill, to deciding that I now understood women's intentions and knew exactly what I had to do to become "alpha." But now I had zero interest in anything to do with women, hence I skipped straight to MGTOW. To me it seemed like the logical step - why even bother wasting my time?
/r/MGTOW19/02/16 10:35 PM
14

After learning about the Red Pill everything about women made perfect sense. All of my previous experiences with them suddenly fit in like pieces in a puzzle. The only thing that didn't make sense to me was why these guys, knowing what they knew, still wanted anything to do with women. They recognized that all of society is slave to women's desires, so they wanted to become... better slaves!? The clear solution was to be done with women and pursue my own interests instead. So I went MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW19/02/16 08:16 AM
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Then a female student filed a restraining order against him and accused him of rape. The school preemptively expelled him The real justice would have been seeing whoever ordered him to be expelled without proof fired.
/r/MensRights19/02/16 03:55 AM
1

I just don't like not being in full control of myself. I drink socially, and that's it.
/r/MGTOW17/02/16 08:28 AM
9

Oh this most definitely fits. Men can have their lives destroyed by these types of baseless accusations. The fact that it was one element of a more elaborate cover-up only makes it all the better. After-effects in these types of cases aren't just financial and emotional - they hurt a man's reputation too.
/r/MensRights12/02/16 08:28 AM
5

Come on, don't you know how to spell scenzore?
/r/MensRights12/02/16 02:03 AM
2

Same. For some reason that sub seems to have a majority of blue pill married engineers who try to drag all the single people into marriage by saying it will speed up their time to FIRE. Of course that's ignoring the divorce and alimony.
/r/MGTOW06/02/16 03:07 AM
2

It's now illegal to be homeless in many cities.
/r/MGTOW02/02/16 08:24 AM
11

True enough. She could be yet another case of lying about being raped, or she could be lying saying she wasn't raped because only cis white males can rape.
/r/MGTOW01/02/16 02:10 AM
2

The biggest problem right now is that people who don't have to pay taxes and get money from the government can vote to have taxes raised on everyone who is paying taxes so that they can get even more money from the government.
/r/MensRights30/01/16 05:35 AM
24

Yup. The only result of telling people you've given up on women is that they will say NAWALT. No benefit and could possibly hurt you.
/r/MGTOW30/01/16 03:22 AM
4

Do you have a degree/training in the field that takes significant time/money to obtain? Is there a related field you could transfer to without salary loss? One of the biggest issues with changing careers completely is that you start from square one. This means a loss of salary AND having to spend the money/time to retrain before you're making any money again. If your salary is significant (at least upper tier 5 figures) you might want to consider toughing it out for your long-term gain. As you g…
/r/MGTOW30/01/16 12:18 AM
7

I'm not Korean, but per what I've seen South Korea does not have a drop-out of men out of society, at least not on a scale compared to that of Japan. You have the "flower boys" who are very effeminate males, but they're doing this because of the supposed encouragement by women (which is yet another example of how women don't know what they want). Korean women are basically some of the most hypergamous women on earth, but unlike the Japanese Korean men seem to not see things for the way they are.…
/r/MGTOW28/01/16 10:16 PM
22

I think it's even worse than that. It's because women don't have to fight in wars, so they don't feel sympathy for the men who die in them (unless the man was their primary breadwinner).
/r/MGTOW28/01/16 05:58 PM
1

Advertising is all about appealing to customers. This was the truest part of your post. Advertisers are portraying men as dumb and women as smarter than them because women like to be told they're smarter than men. However, the reverse is not true. Men don't like to be told they're smarter than women - in fact if asked men will usually say women are smarter than them. Remember, women account for about 85 percent of all consumer purchases. Until telling women they're smarter stops selling products…
/r/MensRights27/01/16 11:32 PM
7

I just posted the Google cached version here.
/r/MGTOW26/01/16 11:26 PM
36

Google cached version. I have been working since I was 14, I'm 30 now, married and with a kid. I would have had $100,000 or more saved up by now if I never got married, didn't have a child, or bought a house and tie myself down to a 30 years mortgage. I regret so much marrying her, I regret so much having a child...and I regret so much buying a house. Before I use to do whatever I want...whenever I want. Now I can't even quit my shitty job and have to suck it up to asshole employees that think t…
/r/MGTOW26/01/16 11:24 PM
1

Yeah I found it rather odd that the article repeatedly mentioned a "protest" but never gave any mention of what it was about.
/r/MensRights26/01/16 06:50 PM
2

Whatever happened to the right to a speedy trial? Oh, that doesn't apply here, apparently.
/r/MensRights26/01/16 06:31 PM
3

TL;DR: Blacks commit ~30% of all crimes despite being ~13% of the population, so it makes perfect sense that they'd be victims of ~30% of all police killings. Doesn't change the fact that police killings are a problem, but definitely makes it clear that it's a police violence problem, not a racial problem.
/r/MensRights26/01/16 06:28 PM
5

Yup, as a white male sometimes I have difficulty sleeping at night - this pile of cash makes for a pretty firm bed.
/r/MensRights26/01/16 03:53 AM
1

Well, the issue is right now that those of us who are on the bottom of the corporate ladder are subsidizing the rich retired folks, while we will never see any of the money ourselves. The spousal subsidies are even worse - a massive subsidy by men to non-working women.
/r/MGTOW22/01/16 05:27 AM
6

Yup. Personally, I wish Social Security would collapse now so I could save thousands a year on taxes. I will never get any of it anyway, so I'd prefer to have more money to put towards my retirement accounts.
/r/MGTOW22/01/16 04:52 AM
1

This is not a bad perspective, but remember that policy influences everything. A school can have poor policies, but a good leadership that doesn't restrict speech in reality. However, all it takes is for poor leadership to come along and suddenly that bad policy is being enforced. Likewise, if a school has good free-speech policies but poor judgement which ultimately restricts speech, it's simply necessary to bring this to light that the school is not following their own policy. If the school do…
/r/MensRights19/01/16 06:54 PM
25

FIRE has been doing this for a while now and has free speech ratings for over 400 schools.
/r/MensRights18/01/16 09:11 PM
3

So that she can feel free to victimize more men.
/r/MensRights14/01/16 04:12 AM
3

I don't see the point of spending thousands a year on a car when my bicycle can get me from a to b just as well.
/r/MGTOW13/01/16 03:46 AM
1

I've been in jail exactly a year now for things I haven't done. Coban, who is awaiting trial So apparently the Dutch don't have the right to a speedy trial?
/r/MensRights29/12/15 08:45 PM
22

And how many women would give up their lives to save 3 men? Men do seem to have natural instincts to protect women, but culture greatly exacerbates this.
/r/MGTOW19/12/15 12:37 AM
1

Gnosticism (and agnosticism) is a question about whether one can know if there is a god or not while theism (and atheism) is a question about whether a god actually exists. If you are an agnostic, you believe that you can't know whether there is a god or not. Then you decide whether you believe in a god or not, most agnostics can't point to one they do believe in, and therefore they are are agnostic atheists (as most atheists are). A gnostic atheist would say that it is possible to know that the…
/r/MensRights18/12/15 05:43 PM
1

Still doesn't erase the benefits of leaving. If you can live in a cheaper cost-of-living country you can pay less (or even no) taxes assuming you control your income based on your expenses. This is actually what I'll be doing when I retire in my early 30's and start rolling over my IRA's - I'll be keeping my taxable income so low taxes will be negligible.
/r/MGTOW18/12/15 08:28 AM
1

I'm an agnostic and I really don't see any problem with it. As long as it's not being funded by the government, why not let the citizens do with the land as they see fit? Culture is a part of society, and for some people religion is part of their culture. Honestly, getting all up in arms about some nativity scene is the same thing to me as all of these microaggressions. The "separation of church and state" primary goal was to ensure the US didn't have a publicly sponsored "Church of England". It…
/r/MensRights18/12/15 08:25 AM
2

I'm not the OP.
/r/MGTOW17/12/15 05:47 PM
1

These are definitely high on my list. Currently looking like I'll hit financial independence in my early 30's, and then I'm outa here myself. *Edited for clarity
/r/MGTOW17/12/15 05:38 PM
22

The only thing that surprises me about this study is that it was actually allowed to go through. Today SJW's and the politically correct are heavily influencing what science is even allowed to take place.
/r/MGTOW11/12/15 02:54 AM
3

I mean, I agree, but the computerized voice is kinda of awkward to understand.
/r/MGTOW11/12/15 02:50 AM
3

Really good video - thanks for the link!
/r/MGTOW08/12/15 03:48 AM
16

He's not wrong - his only mistake is going public because now someone can more easily falsely accuse him since his name is out in the open. But perhaps that's strategy - trying to publicize the situation in hopes that it will affect some larger changes.
/r/MensRights22/11/15 07:05 PM
3

Same. A dog would be cool to have, but don't want to go through the effort (and expense) of having one. Perhaps when I retire someday that'll change.
/r/MGTOW19/11/15 10:45 PM
8

Yup. I'm an agnostic but I have to admit Proverbs has some pretty insightful observations on women and marriage. Also: Proverbs 25:24 Better to live on a corner of the roof than share a house with a quarrelsome wife. Proverbs 27:15 A quarrelsome wife is like the dripping of a leaky roof in a rainstorm;
/r/MGTOW03/11/15 07:40 PM
3

Education doesn't need to make policies to attract men into education, just like STEM professions don't need to make policies to attract women into engineers. All they need to do is to stop making education hazardous to one's safety as a male. The burden of proof of an accusation (whether the accuser is a child or otherwise) should be on the accuser. Accusations which are proven false should be punished, again whether or not the accuser is a child. Stop treating all men like potential child abus…
/r/MensRights03/11/15 07:27 PM
105

No /s required. This is literally true. For example, the only way to get people to care about how boys and young men are failing in education is to address the shortage of "eligible bachelors" with good incomes - which is precisely due to the failing education system. People just don't care until it affects women.
/r/MensRights03/11/15 07:14 PM
1

I have honestly NEVER even considered committing suicide. Even in my most depressed moments of my past, I never saw it as an option. I was concerned for my friend who was having suicidal thoughts (so I wondered what it would be like to have such thoughts and be unable to stop oneself), but I've never seen suicide as a solution to anything.
/r/MensRights02/11/15 11:40 PM
9

Also yet another example of single people being taken advantage of in the workplace. There are marriage and other benefits companies offer than single people don't get - we're basically subsidizing married people. Singles are also expected to work longer hours for the same pay, and there's no excuse of leaving work early or taking unplanned days off "because of the kids".
/r/MGTOW28/10/15 03:06 AM
7

"You can't believe everything you read on the internet." - Abraham Lincoln, 1868.
/r/MensRights26/10/15 10:36 PM
8

Japanese women are smart enough to see the long-term effects of feminism - it kills society, in the end making things worse for themselves as well. Having observed the effects of feminism worldwide, they're content with Japanese society as is, where men still work to serve women and life centers around women, but at least men get some token rewards for it. Japanese men are noticing this and checking out of society, but at least (in the minds of Japanese women) they're not facing as blatant of in…
/r/MGTOW26/10/15 09:09 PM
2

Not going to disagree with you about the efficiency of American working hours. However, I thought we were talking about two hypothetical workers who were otherwise equal, but with one taking more vacation. If you could show that one worker was more productive than the other overall because of taking more vacation that's one thing. However, I'd otherwise assume that with all else being equal, the one who works more will accomplish more. There's definitely a diminishing return to taking vacation. …
/r/MensRights26/10/15 06:50 PM
5

Yup. Or even just individually negotiate if one is underpaid relative to one's coworkers.
/r/MensRights26/10/15 06:39 PM
42

Take note, rights for men is not a subset of Human Rights Obviously, it's because men aren't human. Do I even need a /s?
/r/MensRights26/10/15 06:36 PM
2

Why shouldn't it be? If you work more, you should get paid more.
/r/MensRights26/10/15 06:32 PM
9

I would LOVE for salary to be public knowledge. Would let me know if I'm being underpaid or not and how much more I could really negotiate for. Knowledge is power, and that's exactly why employers restrict this information.
/r/MensRights26/10/15 06:30 PM
11

You'd better get used to it. 90% of college is kissing up to the institution so you can walk out with your piece of paper, not actually doing something worthwhile. I had to deny my principles so many times in college, but at least I got good grades and now have a good job. It does make me realize how effective the indoctrination must be though. I was probably one of the few people who slipped through the cracks of the thought police.
/r/MGTOW26/10/15 06:15 PM
8

So what you're saying is that hypergamy has poisoned the well so badly that NOT being hypergamous is essentially social suicide. I guess I can buy that. But I'd love to know how many women even want to "marry down". And is a rich woman marrying a handsome but poor man still marrying down?
/r/MGTOW26/10/15 06:10 PM
15

In reality male privilege is the ability to choose any mate that he sees fit, regardless of her social status, with minimal social consequence. This is stupid. First of all a man can't choose any mate he wishes - the woman has to accept him first. Secondly, absolutely nothing prevents a woman from asking a man to be her mate as well except her own choices. Flip the genders and understand that a female lawyer would almost never be able to make that same choice because of social consequences and (…
/r/MGTOW26/10/15 05:25 PM
2

If it were possible to have a female MGTOW, Esther Vilar would be the first to qualify. I had the pleasure of reading her book for the first time this summer. Incredibly enlightening.
/r/MGTOW26/10/15 05:00 PM
5

Perhaps you'd care to enlighten us as to how this is wrong then? I find this to be 100% true but would at least be amused enough to read your counter, so have an upvote.
/r/MGTOW26/10/15 04:49 PM
1

Yup. After all, funding SJW causes will clearly advance the company far more than developing new technology. ;)
/r/MensRights23/10/15 07:37 PM
2

It's also heavily tied to men getting screwed by the divorce court system, as financial stress is a cause of suicide.
/r/MensRights23/10/15 07:34 PM
4

It's pretty clear with their leadership team making these kinds of decisions that they're incompetent and don't know how to run a business. You made the right decision.
/r/MensRights23/10/15 06:35 AM
15

I think the number one reason is that the current leadership team is on board with the SJW's, and is willing to spend money to actively hurt their company and its investors in order to achieve their "social justice" goals. Their Feminist Frequency funding is just another example.
/r/MensRights23/10/15 06:33 AM
1

Taking on feminism publicly takes some REAL balls.
/r/MensRights23/10/15 05:03 AM
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Typically, in these sorts of situations Asian men are even more discriminated against than white men. One thing is for sure: Intel is NOT a company I want to work for.
/r/MensRights23/10/15 04:48 AM
16

Yup. Particularly in a high-profile position such a politician, it's practically a requirement.
/r/MGTOW22/10/15 07:50 AM
13

I guess this is further proof that feminism is damaging its own brand on a worldwide basis.
/r/MensRights22/10/15 07:18 AM
5

Why not just treat her as you do anyone else? The vast majority of girls will NOT directly ask a guy out. And if she does ask you out, you can just say you have other commitments/tight schedule/etc. This is just what girls do! Avoid HR and avoid saying anything one way or the other to anyone at work. It'll be a little bit annoying but you'll risk nothing in your job.
/r/MGTOW22/10/15 06:22 AM
7

But-but The Patriarchy™ prevented them from realizing their full potential!
/r/MGTOW22/10/15 04:18 AM
1

And Calculus books are printed on white paper! That's it - Calculus needs to be banned.
/r/MensRights22/10/15 03:10 AM
3

It was invented by cis white males! What further evidence do you need?
/r/MensRights22/10/15 01:46 AM
16

Even bigger concern is how much money is raised for breast cancer, vs for cancers of equivalent incident rates that don't primarily affect women. Women already live several years longer than men on average, but apparently their health issues are more important.
/r/MensRights21/10/15 09:23 PM
6

Every other class in college is Men's Studies. /s
/r/MensRights21/10/15 08:53 PM
3

These kinds of situations are why strict liability has no place in the law.
/r/MensRights21/10/15 12:31 AM
2

Sounds good! Yeah I'm personally planning on reaching financial independence in my 30's and then moving to a cheap country. I can then slow-travel and backpack/bike tour. No reason to stick in the same country for too long.
/r/MGTOW20/10/15 05:30 PM
14

Do you really need one single defining reason? You're 23. (I'm 25 myself). Just focus on self-improvement and find some enjoyable hobbies. You'll find something of greater meaning to you personally as you mature. I know I haven't found that yet but I'm not worried in the slightest. Personally, after giving up all of the family social pressures I was self-imposing on myself, I'm realizing just how awesome life is in the 21st century. There's so much people take for granted out there that we just …
/r/MGTOW20/10/15 04:55 AM
5

It's pretty obvious: The university supports free speech, as long as it fits with the feminist ideology. If it doesn't, however, the 1st amendment might as well not exist.
/r/MensRights16/10/15 08:32 PM
5

I am afraid you might be thinking too highly of your fellow humans. Sadly, no matter how disgusting something is, someone will pay for it.
/r/MensRights15/10/15 02:26 AM
1

If they have statistical data to show that one race costs them more than another, is it not racist to charge that race more?
/r/MensRights08/10/15 01:11 AM
3

I was going to cross-post this to r/feminism, but then I decided I'd preserve my unbanned status for now. Good article, especially considering the source.
/r/MensRights06/10/15 10:33 PM
3

Yup. I think her words are appalling, but she should have the right to say them. Her words should have cost her the job but I don't see any justification for charges.
/r/MensRights06/10/15 06:03 PM
5

The modern man could do whatever the fuck he wants. Does he though? No - he'd prefer to be a slave to women's whims. Esther Vilar's The Manipulated Man comes to mind - a really good read.
/r/MGTOW05/10/15 07:14 PM
8

Since we know that less than 1% of rape accusations are false, clearly these men must actually be guilty. /s
/r/MGTOW02/10/15 08:34 PM
1

Yup. American culture is essentially feminist propaganda, and its effect on foreign-born women is rapid and complete. If you're going to actually get married to a foreigner (which I still wouldn't recommend) at least stay in her country. It has the culture that prevented her from becoming a raging feminist, after all.
/r/MGTOW02/10/15 08:31 PM
15

Oh, it's been quite clear all along.
/r/MGTOW20/09/15 09:13 PM
12

The men are living with roommates. As the average young single childless woman now makes more than a similar man, they are able to afford living on their own. The men aren't.
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 09:52 AM
8

Good perspective. I think that r/financialindependence/ is highly relevant as a MGTOW. Personally, I'm planning on getting out of the rat race in my early 30's. Without a woman or kids to pay for, and without a life of luxury, it's pretty easy.
/r/MGTOW14/09/15 12:45 AM
2

Yup. In this case the only way to ensure the service continues to be rendered is to rent, not buy.
/r/MGTOW13/09/15 10:20 PM
6

Or maybe he's exchanging money for services he desires? As he said himself, it's cheaper than having a wife. It just so happens that one of that services he's buying is "acting". This isn't for me, but if he's happy, good for him.
/r/MGTOW13/09/15 06:54 PM
1

The 10 billion figure IS bogus, but it's not due to wars/famines (which aren't as predictable). The simple fact is that birthrates are dropping to all-time lows in developed countries and will continue to drop. People aren't having kids like they used to, and the UN's 10 billion figure assumes fertility rates will increase in developed countries that currently are at all-time lows. I see no evidence of why this should happen. (MGTOW and other such movements are only growing.) By some UN figures …
/r/MGTOW16/08/15 07:54 AM
1

LOL at the downvotes. Your comment is hilarious.
/r/MGTOW10/08/15 02:44 AM
4

I actually kind of want to experience prison just for the isolation from the rest of the world. Maybe for a week or something. Probably would really give me some life perspective. I don't want to have to do what's necessary to get IN to prison though.
/r/MGTOW09/08/15 07:02 AM
4

Anything that harasses, bullies, or abuses an individual or group of people (these behaviors intimidate others into silence)
/r/MensRights30/07/15 02:41 AM
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Actually, it directly violates the guidelines u/spez put out today: Anything that harasses, bullies, or abuses an individual or group of people (these behaviors intimidate others into silence) Of course, not that I care - I'm a proud member of The List.
/r/MensRights30/07/15 02:40 AM
1

I'm likewise a proud member of The List. My comment: And people wonder why they're afraid to talk to the police. You had better have indisputable video evidence before you talk to the police, and even then you may still get arrested.
/r/MensRights30/07/15 02:36 AM
2

100% agreed. There should be one test - that of the requirement necessary to do the job. All people, regardless of age or gender, should need to pass the same set of standards.
/r/MensRights25/07/15 02:37 AM
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And people wonder why they're afraid to talk to the police. You had better have indisputable video evidence before you talk to the police, and even then you may still get arrested.
/r/MensRights23/07/15 06:39 AM
4

I'm actually putting more than 2/3 of my income into investments. Check out r/financialindependence if you're interested in becoming financially independent. Not having to work for money as a MGTOW is pretty much the ultimate form of independence from society (other than living in the wilderness and not depending on money at all, I guess). My goal is to become financially independent in my 30's, and without a woman around that task is easier than you might think (FYI I don't make 6 figures).
/r/MGTOW21/07/15 03:51 AM
0

She's in a society run by feminism. I have to say I actually agree with the feminists in the article: "women who benefit from feminism and then refuse to embrace the term ... not a position I have much respect for". Unless she's actively doing something to roll back the harmful effects of feminism, she might as well be a feminist. As best, she's a neutral bystander. Ultimately it doesn't matter even if a large section of society isn't feminist. The group that controls society is, and so all wome…
/r/MGTOW06/07/15 04:11 PM
3

Eh, I view it more as a general protest against Pao and the administration for how they are handling Reddit lately.
/r/MGTOW03/07/15 08:19 AM
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I would argue MGTOW is a political issue in cases where a bachelor tax might be imposed. In fact, one could argue that the government subsidization of marriage and giving different rights to people based on their marital status (married vs unmarried) is in itself a bachelor tax. Beyond that I fully agree.
/r/MGTOW02/07/15 05:22 AM
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Yup. Particularly if you live frugally. For example, I don't own a car (I bike everywhere), I prepare all my own meals and don't eat out, etc. My goal is to achieve financial independence and retire by 35, at which point I will stop working altogether and pay a 0% effective tax rate for the rest of my life.
/r/MGTOW01/07/15 03:07 AM
10

Many more women than men are religious. And the religious are the most likely to oppose same-sex marriage.
/r/MGTOW30/06/15 02:56 AM
1

Haha - I wish.
/r/MGTOW28/06/15 06:20 PM
4

Eh, I don't need a car either. Life is awesome on my bicycle.
/r/MGTOW28/06/15 01:12 AM
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It's been under threat since marriage licenses were issued, period. Why should you need the government's approval to get married? If marriage is an inalienable right, why should the government be restricting it? Marriage should be a private contract with no state involvement.
/r/MGTOW27/06/15 08:17 AM
4

Yup, I used to be very patriotic as well until I learned more. Now I don't think there's a country on earth worth giving your life for.
/r/MGTOW24/06/15 01:50 AM
14

I'd do whatever I could to get out of it. When it comes to war I'm a coward, and not afraid to admit it. I only have one life to live, and I'd prefer to live it rather than to die in the defense of something I don't believe in.
/r/MGTOW24/06/15 01:20 AM
9

And under-prosecuted.
/r/MensRights23/06/15 09:34 PM
2

Yup. Hard to beat the 2D ones.
/r/MGTOW21/06/15 06:32 AM
1

I'll not disagree with your first statement, though I will say business is far more useful than liberal arts (hence why it pays better). Regarding your second statement, I see we have differing opinions on the value of the free market.
/r/MensRights21/06/15 03:34 AM
2

Yup. I got a business degree and am thus doing far better than if I had gone with liberal arts. Business is how the world works. Without business, you won't have the capital to support your MITLA's.
/r/MensRights21/06/15 03:24 AM
2

Well, which do you think is worse, someone who supports Israel, or someone who said "Women have always been the primary victims of war"? Besides, Rand is less interventionist that anyone else in the R party.
/r/MGTOW17/06/15 04:34 AM
13

As far as I've seen libertarians are doing some good things. And I know Rand Paul isn't a "full" libertarian, but he's said some pretty good things. Well, you know, I think we have a lot of debates in Washington that get dumbed down and are used for political purposes. This whole sort of war on women thing, I'm scratching my head because if there was a war on women, I think they won. You know, the women in my family are incredibly successful. I have a niece at Cornell vet school, and 85% of the …
/r/MGTOW16/06/15 04:00 PM
4

This is great to see. If only we had someone like this in the US.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 07:58 AM
1

Yup. I prefer to identify as agnostic - at least then I'm not as closely associated with what atheists are these days.
/r/MensRights15/06/15 07:33 AM
2

What's more interesting is that the main reason the change was prompted in the first place was due to the women threatening to sue. No women complaining means no firearm change needed, which means no increase in misfiring.
/r/MensRights15/06/15 12:25 AM
5

Why would you do that? As a MGTOW, who cares what women think of your body?
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 07:07 AM
1

I play mainly turn-based strategy and RPG games (including JRPG's).
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 03:09 AM
10

What a great incentive for prospective parents to want to work there. What I don't see is why the government should have any involvement whatsoever in leave offered to employees. Last time I checked, employment is at-will, as is having kids. Kids are a luxury in today's world. If you want to have them that's your decision, but you had better be ready to pay for them yourself rather than forcing others to subsidize your choices.
/r/MensRights09/06/15 03:07 AM
3

Also an INTJ. I can play up the extroversion but then I need to recharge.
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 02:36 AM
2

I couldn't care less about "manliness". MGTOW is about forging your own path, including your own definition of manliness. Not worrying about performing up to some "standard" is honestly very stress-relieving. You should try it.
/r/MGTOW06/06/15 06:13 AM
16

Great description. But really, feminists engaging in this kind of behavior are self-destructing their movement.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 01:30 AM
2

About 1/10th that amount. A MGTOW doesn't necessarily need a lot to be happy.
/r/MGTOW03/06/15 04:02 PM
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I can't say I agree with his statements on money. My current path is to reach financial independence in my 30's by focusing on mostly just on earning and saving/investing money. Once I reach that point, I will be free to live my life as I see fit, without having to worry any longer whether what I do makes money. IMO financial independence via living off investment income is one of the biggest forms of freedom from society as a MGTOW - no longer do you need to toil for the financial benefit of ot…
/r/MGTOW03/06/15 07:52 AM
3

I think Guante's 10 Responses to the Phrase "Man Up" is pretty much the ultimate answer to the use of this phrase. Starting with #1 "Fuck you." Listen to #6 and #7 - incredibly MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW02/06/15 08:40 AM
0

Yup. And I still plan to move to Asia once I hit financial independence.
/r/MGTOW31/05/15 09:15 PM
1

Yup, I likewise disagree with the last point, but agree with the rest completely. FYI - I'd suggest watching this BBC video for a realistic view on the future of population.
/r/MGTOW31/05/15 09:12 PM
2

There are 1,138 mentions of marriage in US federal law. You have to face it, society is set up against single people. The familiar examples include social security, estate, and other tax benefits accorded to married people and the privilege of making medical decisions for loved ones The majority of Americans are now single. However, that doesn't seem to be making single people demand for equal rights, perhaps because so many of them think they'll eventually be married someday and reap the benefi…
/r/MGTOW28/05/15 06:33 AM
3

I'm not focused on women (or the absence of them) at all at this point in my life. But you're posting about women, rather than posting content that isn't about. How about posting some content to get things going in the direction you'd like to see?
/r/MGTOW23/05/15 09:42 AM
2

Heh, I'm probably a more extreme version of you. I'm mostly socially isolated at this point other than work and family (parents/siblings). But I've got a good job and will be reaching financial independence in my early 30's. I think whether you can live this kind of lifestyle depends on both your personality and your goals. I have a clear goal (save as much money as possible) which is pushing me forward. At the same time I've lived most of my life very cautiously socially. Right now I'm really e…
/r/MGTOW23/05/15 09:38 AM
1

Heh. This is amazing.
/r/MGTOW22/05/15 06:45 AM
1

Heh, I think you're giving them too much benefit of the doubt. I've never seen any evidence that women actually know what they want, unless it's that they want something different than they currently have.
/r/MGTOW20/05/15 12:46 AM
7

My co-workers are all significantly older than me. I often hear them complaining of the struggles of marriage and kids. They often tell me, "Enjoy your single life while you can, when you get married..." I of course laugh along with them and say I will, but secretly I'm thinking, "Fat chance of that ever happening!"
/r/MGTOW19/05/15 03:00 AM
6

It's pretty much a crime to have a female character in a movie who is less than perfect. The feminists will complain about the lack of "strong female characters," and how any character who isn't perfect is disparaging all women - because if you make one woman look bad, you make ALL women look bad. This results in most female characters being cardboard cutouts, and thus frankly boring. This is true in all forms of media.
/r/MGTOW18/05/15 01:27 AM
8

Become financially independent in my early 30's and retire. Move to another country, leaving the U.S. of A. behind forever. Travel the world (backpacking/by bike as much as possible). Play video games and watch anime when I'm not travelling.
/r/MGTOW16/05/15 05:34 AM
30

As someone who has little experience with women, at this point I honestly see no point in wasting my time in any of this stuff. I now know that a relationship with a woman will not be close to what society idealizes it to be, and even in my pre-MGTOW days I thought pursuing women solely for sex was a waste of time. There's plenty of ways to enjoy life that don't involve sex (and that are also cheaper), and I'm not about to embrace the dangers of possible child support either. I actually used to …
/r/MGTOW12/05/15 08:32 AM
1

Agreed. And don't forget the vast amount of discrimination against single people. There are 1,138 mentions of marriage in US federal law. We now have gay marriage, but what about people who choose to remain voluntarily single? Why should 2 people get more rights than just one? It may in many cases make sense for two straight people to marry to collect benefits. A person's relationship and children-related decisions should have zero impact on how they are treated in the eyes of the law or at work…
/r/MensRights30/04/15 04:07 AM
1

The fact that a woman can claim rape and get you expelled without due process, causing you to lose your chance at a degree and have your reputation harmed for life is pretty terrifying, IMO.
/r/MensRights20/03/15 08:40 AM
2

Who cares where it came from? The truth is the truth. If MRA's are going to fight against those who recognize and support their cause, they'll never get anywhere. Men's rights transcend party affiliation. It's perfectly fine to not agree with someone on every issue, but you should still ally with them where you agree. Stop shooting the messenger and focus more on getting the message out.
/r/MensRights04/01/15 12:43 PM
2

I find this sentence especially interesting: Having men experience contraction pains is proving popular in this eastern Chinese city, especially with their spouses So women want to make men experience the same pain?
/r/MensRights20/12/14 01:00 AM
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