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| 2 | Struggling to cope with separation and divorce and I don't know how.At least she had the class to wait until she was separated to move on. You were “moving on” while still in marriage she thought you were committed to (and your affair partner didn’t even know about) Get therapy. And leave her the hell alone to heal with whoever is bringing her peace & happiness. | /r/Divorce_Men | 19/09/25 05:18 AM |
| 8 | Do men and women have realistic standards for each other?Again, reading comprehension is key. I literally said not a mansion. But if I still have to work to put food on the table, why am I signing up to do the majority of the workload? That’s nuts. Tell me how many men are signing up for “still work, bring home a paycheck, but do the majority of work & mental labor in the home”? I’ll happily work & pay my share, especially when times are tough and not a lot of people are wealthy. I’m not going to do both. Who would? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/24 02:58 PM |
| 5 | Do men and women have realistic standards for each other?If she has to work but to still struggle with a middle class life and do the majority of the workload, it’s not worth it. have neither the time, patience nor crayons to explain to you further. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/24 02:49 PM |
| 10 | Do men and women have realistic standards for each other?🤣 Men worried about women digging for gold they don’t have. We’re specifically talking about a situation where a guy wants to “provide” 66% (I was being overly generous when I said 75% according to his own post) if she “takes the lead” on the housework and mental load? That’s not treating her like a princess. That’s treating her like he’s to broke too pull off the whole trad life but still wants a mommybangmaid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/24 02:08 PM |
| 5 | Do men and women have realistic standards for each other?If a man is thinking paying 75% of bare minimum expenses is supposed to get him a partner who also works and still has to do 75% around the house? So I still have to work, plus “take the lead” on all the household & mental labour? Why would I not just pay the 50% and have someone contribute equally in effort as well? I’m not asking for a mansion, but if I still have to work for just the basics to survive, why would I be taking on 75% of the rest of the load? If someone’s paying enough of the bil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/24 01:40 PM |
| 25 | Do men and women have realistic standards for each other?lol. Too much sexist energy in the OP. If partnership scares you, or you can’t provide it, just say so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/24 08:24 AM |
| 11 | Do men and women have realistic standards for each other?So you’re saying you’re going to provide 75% of the financial requirements for a house & home & kids if she does 75% of the household duties? Not 75% of a 1bdrm apartment, single car, no vacation. 75% of having a middle class lifestyle. But that doesn’t include childcare, right, because that’s another whole job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/24 06:20 AM |
| 35 | Do men and women have realistic standards for each other?Not that I’d enter such a relationship, but any man who expects his partner to “take the lead” on basic household duties had better be “taking the lead” on providing for said household. If I can make my own $ (& let’s face it, these days, two incomes is a normal requirement for a halfway comfortable life), I’ll be damned if I’m playing mommybangmaid for someone while paying half the bills. You eat? Then you get to cook too. You wear clothes? Know how to do laundry. Be an adult human? Know your o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/24 06:17 AM |
| 2 | Why do you think (some) men, particularly on the internet, care about women ending up alone?Of course I’ve heard the expression. But you’re just using it to try to bolster one point of view. There’s no difference between most women saying they’re happy single/childfree/whatever than there is a guy showing off his model collection or someone posting videos of them skydiving & saying how much they love it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/24 03:53 AM |
| 2 | Why do you think (some) men, particularly on the internet, care about women ending up alone?suddenly controversial when talking about women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/24 03:26 AM |
| 2 | Why do you think (some) men, particularly on the internet, care about women ending up alone?Oh, so now it’s just women? So men who say they’re happier alone are sincere? Do you not have ANY hobbies or interests and interact with other real live people? It is absolutely common for those enjoying something to post/talk about it. I don’t understand how you don’t get that unless you’ve never sincerely enjoyed anything and had someone to share that feeling with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/24 03:14 AM |
| 3 | Why do you think (some) men, particularly on the internet, care about women ending up alone?Really? So pretty much every person on line is lying about being happy single (or married, or having kids, or having xyz hobby or traveling etc…………)? People “advertise” they’re happy about a thousand things. It’s the whole point of social media. Hey, I like thins thing. Maybe you would too. Or hey, I thought I couldn’t do xyz but I can, isn’t that cool? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/24 09:33 PM |
| 2 | What is happening to men? I am concernedI absolutely disagree. I’m Canadian, connected to the therapy community and Peterson is getting grief for his psychology and his politics. But more his comments related to psychology. He’s made sexist and bigoted statements and the College stays out of politics until your public comments go against professional standards, which his have. There are plenty of people I don’t like because of their politics. Peterson isn’t one. He’s dangerous & knows it. He’s actually tried to defend himself by sayin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/24 11:45 PM |
| 0 | Both sides are right, if you look at things from their perspective it makes logical sense,“When in reality women are the ones who care way more” You represented your claim as fact. And double down by saying “and it’s true” in this latest comment. And again, it doesn’t say women care more, it says they prefer more of a height difference than men do. It doesn’t say men care less, it says they care about a lower differential. So either provide sources for what you’re claiming, or stop trying to present any of this as facts. If it’s your feelings, fine, then say so. But stop speaking for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/24 03:23 AM |
| 2 | Both sides are right, if you look at things from their perspective it makes logical sense,And “the worst insecurity a guy can have. I never hear any other one brought up” So you never hear about penis size insecurity? Really? It’s all over red pill, incel, etc. sites. As is physical fitness and earnings (the whole 6/6/6 claim) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/24 03:08 AM |
| 0 | Both sides are right, if you look at things from their perspective it makes logical sense,I truly have no idea. He’s not the only guy I’ve dated who was shorter than I (at least when I wear heels, which is almost always) but he’s the only one who made it an issue, weeks after insisting he dated women taller than him all the time. He even made a lighthearted joke about it since the avg height for women here is 5’5”, he was 50/50 on ever dating someone shorter, so why would he limit his dating pool? The study you quote says women want more of a height difference than men, but that men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/24 03:06 AM |
| 0 | Both sides are right, if you look at things from their perspective it makes logical sense,I’m 5’7”. I’ve dated men from 5’5” to 5’11”. I don’t care if they don’t. But so many men who are shorter than the woman they date make it an issue due to their insecurity. I didnt care my BF was 5’5” and he said he didn’t care I was taller, but within weeks he’d started asking me to not wear heels or stand a certain way. And it just got worse from there. So I didn’t care about his height, but I cared about his insecurity. I know plenty of women who feel the same, and sometimes it’s easier to say… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/24 02:28 AM |
| 14 | Is there an epidemic of straight Millenial/GenZ women falsely claiming to be lesbians?Standard go-to response of the emotionally stunted & clueless man who thinks (claims) he knows women. While we all nod & smile. Sure little dude. They’re all hitting on you and can’t possibly be lesbian 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/24 05:33 AM |
| – | Why are women so keen on having male friendsNo, actually I don’t. I pity you that you have no real friendships. I value my male friends just as much and hold their confidences just as closely as any female friend’s. I bring them treats when they’re having a bad week. We go for drives to discuss new music & local politics. We text about how his kids are doing (he’s teaching them how to detail cars at 6 & 8yo lol). I know you won’t (can’t) believe that, and that’s why I pity you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/24 05:32 AM |
| 23 | Why are women so keen on having male friendsIf you’re as pleasant to deal with as a menstrual period, that’s not exactly a flex. My males friends cry in my shoulder more than I ever vent to them. I have a whole host of friends & family who are used to being emotionally honest, whereas men are starved for friendship and someone they can talk to and admit actual feelings to. The manosphere has serverely stunted men’s emotional growth for many men. And your red pill nonsense is proof of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/24 05:27 AM |
| 22 | Is there an epidemic of straight Millenial/GenZ women falsely claiming to be lesbians?And you know they’re “falsely claiming” because… you’re a man with a magic peen and they show sexual interest in you? According to YOU. Another f’ing man telling women what they think/feel/what their sexuality is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/24 04:09 AM |
| 2 | Red pillers are delusional beyond helping, and none of their statements make senseNot when they got together… And there are women who, knowing they’ll never even meet him and have no “stake” in the conversation, say they find him attractive. Unconventionally, but they find him attractive. People who insist it’s 100% looks (&/or height, money, whatever) are just not able or willing to accept what they’re being told, that it is NOT that cute & dried and “the manosphere” is fear-mongering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/24 12:58 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Looks, money, status... Is it true?Any man I date has to be able to support himself financially. Not me, just him. He should be able to at least occasionally treat on dates, but not even 50% of the time, nor do they need to be expensive dates. I’d be happier with a homemade $15 picnic in the park & feeding ducks than a $60+ movie date. He has to be able care for himself & his domicile. Be clean (we all get messy occasionally, but clean is a different standard) and courteous. If he’s rude to wait staff or retail staff, he’s not fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/24 04:24 AM |
| 1 | The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates.“Intuitively” makes sense. Sure. Thats your source? Thats why I don’t disagree? Goof. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 09:29 PM |
| 1 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.Sure dude. I totally believe you now that you’ve defaulted to me “being triggered”. Do you think that’s a winning, persuasive tactic? Bye boy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 09:28 PM |
| 0 | If men want more casual sex from women why do you support/vote for policies that will discourage thisI was about to provide citations for the fact women contribute more taxes to the system and so not always get the same benefit from “the state” but then saw your comments of “Women have to work for men’s money” and “the state shouldn’t be financing women’s ability to stay away from men”, and… to be honest, you creep me out with those statements and I don’t want to converse with you. For any reason. Please leave me alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 09:13 PM |
| 1 | The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates.I’ve never looked at it as a capitalism issue (which is grim) but I’ve only dated in (roughly) my own socio-economic circle so I’ve never had to think about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 09:08 PM |
| 2 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.He called me a “blue haired land whale” for calling him “little dude” because he was mad I didn’t agree with Peterson. If that’s not red pill or extreme, you do you. But I’m not going to be a “good quiet girl” and I will match energy given. Women are tired of being doormats and accepting insults without giving some back. And are you fully versed in Peterson’s comments that got him in trouble in the first place? There’s a reason he’s a red pill/incel hero. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 09:06 PM |
| 0 | The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates.Again, I pita all y’all’s social lives then. Every woman I know has asked men out. Not always for first dates - I agree more men still do that - but after that? If she’s interested, she’ll often say things like “I had a great time, can we do this again”? If you don’t see that as an invite (since the follow up is usually either “what do you have in mind, I look forward to hearing from you, or I’ll call you), all I can say is maybe she’s just not that into you? Or this rectally sourced statistic o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 09:04 PM |
| 2 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.🤣 You’re hilarious. Please direct me to this series of interviews I’m sure you published somewhere, not just in your own delusional red pill manosphere bubble. Please. Go away. Youre not a serious conversationalist if you’re gonna g to make stuff up to prove imaginary points | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 08:44 AM |
| 0 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.You’re so red-pilled I can’t even converse with you. You’re generalizing and repeating red pill philosophy with no actual real world basis. And to be honest, I truly don’t believe that you, in your “small town” know many white men WHO WENT TO ASIA to get a wife. Could they have married Asian women? Sure. Are they successful “passport bros”. No. Buh bye | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 08:37 AM |
| 1 | Blue Pillers constantly respond to criticism or men venting with “well clearly your attitude/personality is why you struggle” but this makes zero sense, as venting anonymously online has absolutely nothing to do with how you interact with women/people in real lifeMost people believe that on line personalities are much like the saying “drunk words are sober thoughts”. When you’re insulated by anonymity or social media, the “real you” comes out. And no one wants to take the chance in that being the case. Why would I take a chance on someone venting while using bigoted/racist/sexist language on line, knowing that could be how they really feel? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 08:33 AM |
| 1 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.I’m not triggered. I’m quite happy, thank you. Why are men leaving the west and go to Asia to find wives? First, how many are successful? And normal, average guys, not someone straight up buying a wife from an impoverished situation? Why is there a male loneliness pandemic (seriously? Pandemic?). Because most men won’t listen when women (real women, not podcast rage bait guests or made up social media examples) say we want equal partners and to stop treating us like mommy-bang-maids. There are p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 08:29 AM |
| 0 | The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates.Oh, so now it’s “first dates” and not all dates? So what? I’ve also said it was also fully acceptable to split the bill and to make it clear in advance if you’re treating or not. Again, sorry about your social life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 08:26 AM |
| 1 | The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates.If you have to extend 95% of social invites, I pity you and your social life 🤷 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 08:24 AM |
| -3 | The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates.Of every date? I pity your social life then | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 08:20 AM |
| 2 | The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates.I think, with all kindness, you might benefit from therapy to investigate why you’d feel guilty (unworthy) of minor (& reciprocal) gifts from friends. You don’t owe them. They are using a tangible item to express their happiness & thankfulness for your friendship. If I buy my friend ghost pepper beef jerky when I order my mild-ass lemon pepper jerky, I don’t want him to feel guilty. I want him to feel happy. And when he send me a new song he bought on apple for me, I feel happy he thought of me.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 05:52 AM |
| 2 | The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates.To clarify, I don’t mean “sad” as in “pathetic”, I mean sad in the way that societal expectations and toxic dating practises have brought anyone to a place where they cannot accept a treat from a friend just because it’s a treat from a friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 05:28 AM |
| 2 | The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates.The fact you’d feel you “owe” someone if they treated you to lunch (assuming you also occasionally did the same) is kinda concerning. Or sad. In a romantic context I get it, because a lot of men DO admit they think women “owe” them something if/when they pay for things. Which is another (major) reason a lot of women insist on paying their own way, even if their preferred dating method is the “take turns” approach. At least for the first few dates, to make sure it isn’t the toe of guy who does fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 05:26 AM |
| 2 | The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates.Your end comment is exactly what I mean about normal people being reasonable. You recognize in some cases one person paying the bill may simply be due to being able to afford it and issuing the invite, not because the invitee has dastardly plans for his wealth 😂 I also think people should be a little clearer about intentions before the date starts. I’ve always phrased it “as I’d love to treat you to dinner, or “how about we share a movie night - you get the tickets, I’ll get the deluxe snack box… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 05:00 AM |
| 1 | The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates.I don’t agree. If there’s not a second date, who’s to say that wasn’t his decision? Or a mutual decision? And what if, like I do, the person who invites, pays. Do I then tell HIM he has to split the cheque because I decided not to pursue a further relationship? People on social media (no real person I know makes it this complicated and divisive) make it sound like an all out gender war where no one is dating for mutual enjoyment but only to use each other for sex or money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 04:50 AM |
| 0 | The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates.I knew a few “starving college students” who’d try, but didn’t realize most of their dating pool were other starving college students lol. I really do prefer the person who invites is the person who plans & pays. And ideally, that should go back & forth in a roughly equal manner. I happened to invite/plan more dates than my BF because of his work schedule, so he’d insist on paying frequently. I don’t know why so many people (maybe it’s just social media) can’t imagine that dating is supposed to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 04:48 AM |
| 1 | The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates.Did you miss the “taking turns treating each other”?? I prefer taking turns paying too. It does seem more like a treat - both received and given. But if someone wants to always split the bill, I don’t care about it from a $ standpoint (I make good money), but it does make things feel impersonal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 04:38 AM |
| 2 | The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates.Although I prefer whomever did the inviting pays for the date (and it shouldn’t always be the same person!), I have no problem at all splitting the cheque. Or you pay for moderate dinner & I pay for the movie. What’s wrong with that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 04:36 AM |
| 2 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.Does “little dude” sound tough to you 🤣? Go have a cookie and time out to get over those BIG FEELINGS. I’m sorry your fee-fees are hurt by someone who disagrees with Peterson, knows the actual reasons he’s not practicing and is not respected in Canada or by the analyst community, and doesn’t respect him or his diehard followers. Cope & seethe. Peterson did NOT get his license revoked for his political views. Unless you think sexism & bigotry are political? Which, tbf, I know ow you probably do. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 04:20 AM |
| 2 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.Sure little dude. I wrote some letter to some “random” Canadian board… It was fellow professionals who complained & reported him. The College, an internationally recognized & cooperative board, took action & gave him the chance to fix his mistakes. He decided they’re not mistakes. Fine, you’re a sexist bigot - at least he owned it. So, no license for Peterson. 🤷 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 03:55 AM |
| -1 | If men want more casual sex from women why do you support/vote for policies that will discourage thisYou’re delusional. Women represent 47.7% of the (paid) work force. It’s their taxes too you troglodyte. And if we want those taxes to pay for better birth control, education, abortion access, etc., tbh it’s either a) to men’s benefit or b) not of your f’ing business | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 03:42 AM |
| 2 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.Then please. If men are going their own way, could you get a move on? The whining about it is starting to sound like a 3yo “I’m running away from home {pout}” and waiting for someone to talk you out of it. Women are good with y’all “going your own way”. We just don’t get what the hold up is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 03:39 AM |
| 2 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.🤣. “Purple pill man”. Peterson can’t teach or practice right now because of egregious statements he’s made. He’s too red pill to even do the bandaid solution offered of “retraining” the College offered him to let him keep his license and save face. If you don’t see Peterson as problematic, I can just imagine who TF you think is “constructive”. I have many friends and contacts in the field, and they are all in agreement Peterson needs to shut up. He’s tried to defend himself by saying “I wasn’t b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 03:35 AM |
| 2 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.So glad to know you know every young man on the planet! Phew! I’m so relieved I was wrong about all the young men I personally how did NOT think Tate et al are a bunch of performative twats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 02:38 AM |
| 1 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.He could be my personal epitome of gorgeous, Greek god, make more money than I could spend, but if he’s a Tate (etc) believer, we’re not dating. Not even lunch. Not even friends. I’m sorry, just because you seem to think no woman has morals, doesn’t mean we don’t. I’m not associating with someone who thinks I’m “less than” or a “thing” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 02:32 AM |
| 2 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.Honest curiosity here, since we apparently only hear about the horrible examples like Tate, Peterson, etc… who are the more constructive ones? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 02:29 AM |
| 1 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.Sure. 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 02:28 AM |
| 0 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.Maybe if everyone else thinks there’s lots of nice, normal women left, the problem lays with you? Maybe nice, normal women are avoiding you. They say when you think everyone else is the problem, it you that’s the problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 02:25 AM |
| 2 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.You have no idea how many people take these podcasts seriously. Especially younger guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 02:24 AM |
| 1 | Do men not care about having female friends?I’ll have to let my very good guy friend know he’s getting nothing out of this entirely platonic friendship lol. Except imported beef jerky when I order it. And gluten free cheesecake when I get around to baking. And someone to listen to him bitch about work without trying to “fix it” or ask him to take out the garbage. Or a shared love of new music that we send back & forth. He’s quite literally said that in his single days, he’d sleep with almost anyone, but he wouldn’t want to wreck our frien… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 05:36 AM |
| 1 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkI see “raising standards” being a good thing when it’s not accepting abuse, a dead bedroom, inequity in effort in a relationship, etc. Not “I deserve a virgin mommy-bang-maid who sleeps with me in the first date” or “I deserve 6/6/6 while I do nothing”. And people seem to not see the difference. Effort looks different for men vs. women, but because of the noise & static from social media/influencers, no one’s interested in learning how to be a good partner, how to communicate, how to fix problem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 09:02 PM |
| 2 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkIf it’s such a small issue, why doesn’t the husband actually DO whatever it is that’s causing so much unhappiness for his wife? 5 feet of dirt is still 5 feet of dirt. My ex said it drove him crazy I didn’t close the garage door, even on nice days & you couldn’t see it from the street, but it “drove him crazy” so I just started closing it 🤷 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 08:48 PM |
| 3 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkI think some self reflection does come with age, yes. But even when we were in our 20’s, the gender divide wasn’t as acrimonious as it is today. And as boomerish (although I’m Gen-X) it sounds, I do blame social media in that it gives people like Tate, Peterson and women who promote “6/6/6” idiocy more reach & credibility than they should have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 05:33 AM |
| 3 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkAnd in my 40+ years, I have friends that tell me they f’d up their relationship by focusing too much on being a mother & no longer a wife. And that they took their husband for granted. Until it was too late. Im not blaming men for these actions in every breakup. I’m saying it’s common when a woman leaves the relationship and more specifically my relationship. I’ve known 2 women who cheated on their LTR partners. We’re no longer friends. I really don’t agree with it. If things are going that badl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 03:33 AM |
| 3 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkWhat else could I have done? If he had complaints, he did not share them. When asked if “we” had some issues we needed to talk about, he’d say no, everything’s great. And from his perspective, maybe it was. And in this case, it was his fault. Believe it or not, that actually does happen. I’m not taking blame for something I didn’t create and tried to avoid. He literally told people I left for no reason, because he didn’t cheat or abuse me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 03:30 AM |
| 2 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkSure, sure dude. I can list the articles & studies backing my points if you insist. But you have to then list yours. Because you’re blowing smoke & coping. I’ve made no false claims. I’ve offered to provide evidence of my statements. Will you do the same? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 03:12 AM |
| 2 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkFFS. I didn’t make generalizations. There are studies. You made generalizations. Just you saying so doesn’t make it so. Unless you have studies to back up your claims that more women cheat and most breakups are because women cheat and have their next boyfriend’s lined up? Yeah. Didn’t think so. Cope dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 03:08 AM |
| 4 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkRead what I said again. I’m not saying some women don’t cheat. And you ignored everything else I said too. You’re just proving my point that a lot of men, of whom you seem to be one, cannot fathom that most women don’t and that maybe the breakup wasn’t as sudden and shocking as they seem to think it was, and it certainly wasn’t just because she got the hots for someone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 03:01 AM |
| 3 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkI guess I know a lot of exceptions then, since every LTR (living together) breakup amongst my friend group that wasn’t due to cheating went pretty much the same way. If a man doesn’t take his SO’s insistent request for couple’s therapy as a sign there’s something seriously wrong, I don’t know how much more clear those women had to be. One husband told the judge he had zero warning. Wife’s lawyer pulled up requests for marriage counseling for the past 18 months (text/messages). How is that not co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 02:59 AM |
| 2 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkAll the men who insist most women cheat or have someone lined up before leaving are saying that to make themselves look/feel better. And then insist women can’t take accountability??? I’m not saying some women don’t cheat. But the fact remains, men cheat more often than women. Men move on after a breakup faster than women. Just Google it. Study after study agree with those two points. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 02:45 AM |
| 2 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkI said, 4 times, if you don’t start doing x,y,z (all of which he was doing for himself when we met), I will eventually leave. The last time I said it, I said if you can’t even do x, I’m not renewing the lease at end of the month & im leaving. Where’s the subtlety or confusion in any of that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 02:39 AM |
| 8 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkIt’s very easy to lose your attraction to a guy who, when you met & started dating, had his shit together, was a full-on adult and seemed to care about what I felt who turned into a man-child who couldn’t pick his clothes off the floor, throw out his own trash or make his own dinner when I worked late. Women aren’t attracted to children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 02:36 AM |
| 3 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkI’ve never cheated a day in my life. I’ve never “monkey branched”. I told him, 4 separate times over 9 months (after years together) that if he didn’t start doing x,y,x, I was going to leave. All of x,y,z he was doing when we met - he just stopped once we moved in together. I couldn’t have been clearer if I’d tattoo’d it on his forehead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 02:22 AM |
| 5 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkI literally told me ex, who had an adult job and managed to buy his own groceries, make his own meals, clean his own apartment and do his own laundry when we met, that if he didn’t start doing at least some of that again, I wasn’t going to be his mommy bang maid. I worked more hours than he did, we made roughly the same money, we split bills & he was free to spend his extra money how he chose to (gaming mainly, and I truly didn’t care). But within months of him moving in, he wouldn’t cook, even … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 02:15 AM |
| 1 | Men shouldn't dismiss so quickly the idea that unequal distribution of housework/childcare contributes to divorcesAh yes. The good old “trust me bro” source citation. Facts don’t care about your “doubts”. You know, you could just actually Google this and see you’re wrong… Here it is from Gallup 2020 but there’s easily a dozen to choose from if you actually look https://news.gallup.com/poll/283979/women-handle-main-household-tasks.aspx | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 07:14 PM |
| 2 | Men shouldn't dismiss so quickly the idea that unequal distribution of housework/childcare contributes to divorcesWomen used to do a large majority of the housework. Let’s say, just for this example, 85% of regular housework, childcare and mental load. They also, largely, didn’t work full time. Now they work full time, but are still the primary contact for children, so they work slightly less hours in paid work than men. Men have started doing more around the house & with kids, but it’s not equal. So maybe the numbers are closer to women doing 65% instead of 85%. Women doing more housework than men and men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 07:04 PM |
| 2 | Men shouldn't dismiss so quickly the idea that unequal distribution of housework/childcare contributes to divorcesAnd the study you’re referencing is also over a decade old… keep looking and you’ll see the increase in work time by women as time progressed. There are other studies that support this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 06:58 PM |
| 10 | Men shouldn't dismiss so quickly the idea that unequal distribution of housework/childcare contributes to divorcesEvery source I have found says the opposite. When paid work only is discussed, men work more hours. Gender pay gap and gender unpaid work load are indicated as being partially responsible for that. However, when unpaid work is included, women work more than men. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/06/its-official-women-work-nearly-an-hour-longer-than-men-every-day/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 06:50 PM |
| – | Why don't more struggling men join conservative religions?Oh thank god (lol) Catholics are pretty tame. The Pope even allows birth control now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/24 07:33 PM |
| – | Why don't more struggling men join conservative religions?I don’t know what church you belong to, but that is NOT mainstream Catholicism. That’s hard core fundamentalism or not Christian. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/24 07:31 PM |
| 1 | Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ?Appreciate you not just calling me a liar as many do if I dare say anything that doesn’t “prove” I’m an unreasonable feminist hypocrite. I’m one foot out the door at this point. For every normal discussion/interaction, I have over a dozen attacks on everything I say. So what’s the point to PPD? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ?Yes. If I’m reading you correctly, yes. If my BF has a female friend and they do something I find inappropriate or makes me uncomfortable, I can tell him but it’s up to HIM to decide if that’s a reasonable objection. For example: if she calls him honey and he calls her babe, and always have, and I find that uncomfortable, I can tell him, but he can either say, ok we can tone that down, OR he can rightly say “we’ve called each other that for 8 years and we’ve never dated so asking we stop seems a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 06:47 PM |
| 1 | Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ?Like I said, it’s a cliched trap. It wouldn’t matter to him, or people like you, what I did or did not do. So I’ll do as I please. Which in this case was to deny it and point out I already had, several times. But I’m don’t with you, because you’re a sock puppet with red pill hypnosis so absolutely nothing I could ever say would make a difference to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 03:14 AM |
| 2 | Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ?I’m sorry you’ve had such shitty GFs in the past. If you’re going by personal experience. But by talking about “you women” as a monolith, I’m thinking not. If a woman is flirting with my BF and he doesn’t respond, why do I care? He doesn’t have to make a production of rejecting her, just walk away. Or not respond at all. He can’t control how other women may speak to him or look at him. He only controls what HE does. And that’s all I care about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 03:13 AM |
| 1 | Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ?No said you had to. But being attracted to someone doesn’t mean you have to be a creep and have no control over yourself. I hope my friend finds me marginally attractive. We all want others to think we look good. But that doesn’t mean I think he’s going to touch me inappropriately (at all, just just groping) or say gross, sexual things to me. I think he’s wildly attractive. But I’m not going to hit on him. I’ve had the opportunity when we’ve both been single. But we’d already decided we wanted t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ?Magenta Pill Man. Yup. Glaring, screaming red flag, red pill language. “Orbiters”. I don’t have an “orbiter”. I have a friend. Who’s male. Whom I’ve been friends with since I was 6. I don’t have friend who would be “DTF” because that’s not a “friend”. Perhaps if you had some, or if you were one, you’d know that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 02:49 AM |
| 1 | Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ?You’re such a freaking stereotype. “That she will try to deny”. So if I don’t deny it, it’s true. But if I do deny it, it’s true anyway? Get a life. I’ve already said, MULTIPLE times, I have the same standards for myself as I do for a BF. If my BF simply has a regular, platonic friendship with a women, that’s freaking normal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 02:47 AM |
| 1 | Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ?He wouldn’t be my man if he couldn’t handle me being platonic friends with a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 02:45 AM |
| 2 | Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ?So instead of recognizing someone has unrealistic & controlling insecurities and no one should have to cater to them, you focus on the fact I won’t? And Where TF did I say I’d be right in expecting him to stop innocent behaviors like the ones I outlined? I wouldn’t. I have the same standards for myself as I would for my BF. I already said if a male friend tried to touch me inappropriately I’d not allow it. And I wouldn’t be so f’ing creepy and controlling to try to control him by telling him I w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 02:43 AM |
| 0 | Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ?I’m not deciding what makes him uncomfortable. So no, I’m not agreeing. I’m saying I may not respect someone who has unreasonable expectations for interactions between friends and expects me to not have normal friendships because of his insecurities or control issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 02:28 AM |
| 1 | Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ?I may not respect someone who tries to control my friendships by “being uncomfortable” with normal interactions. I’m deciding if what makes him uncomfortable is reasonable to me. If he’s uncomfortable because a lifelong friend texts me once every day, or we do lunch every Thursday to catch up, that’s absolutely a “him” problem. I’m not deciding what makes him uncomfortable. I’m deciding whether or not that’s my problem to solve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 02:25 AM |
| 1 | Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ?Bullshit Lots of men have issues with male friends. Completely platonic, well behaved male friends. If a male friend were to touch me inappropriately I’d knock his block off. If a BF were to tell me he was uncomfortable when my male friend did xyz I’d decide for myself if that was something he’d have to get over because it was ridiculous or if it was something I’d tell my friend to stop because although I know it’s platonic, it bothers my BF. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 02:20 AM |
| 4 | Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ?Perhaps I phrased it poorly, but I mainly agree with you. An insecurity being verbalized to control others isn’t a vulnerability. An insecurity verbalized to that person in an attempt to get over it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 02:11 AM |
| 7 | Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ?Insecure ≠ vulnerable Insecure is the guy insisting we have no male friends or that we can’t wear heels because he wouldn’t be taller than us. Vulnerable is telling us he sometimes feels insecure because we have make friends, but he wants to get past it because he recognizes it’s a “him” issue and not our job to placate his baseless jealousy. Vulnerable is crying in private when a family member dies and letting us console him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 01:57 AM |
| 8 | Why do for a stranger what you don't want to do for your partner?4 paragraphs ranting about why women won’t do with you… I mean men, and then you try to say “none of this is aimed at any gender in particular”??? That’s the most disingenuous or self-deluded statement I’ve seen this month. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 08:54 AM |
| 1 | Why is it so bad to fall for your friends?If you start a relationship like many people, it’s getting to know someone a little and then figuring out if it’s going to be friendship or romantic. If I haven’t specifically told someone I see them as (only) a friend, I’m not going to be upset if it develops into something more. As long as if I don’t feel the same way, that person can say they respect that & would like to remain friends and mean it. I’ve dated friends. I’ve had friends I’d feel betrayed if they hit on me. But those were told u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 07:57 AM |
| – | Do you think the average straight woman feels this way about guys?Ignore the pseudo-intellectuals telling you it’s not normal. First, they’re not exactly who you should be taking advice from unless they’re going to list their qualifications. Secondly, what demisexual IS, is unusual. Not abnormal. So if you are demisexual, it’s nothing to be ashamed of or even require treatment for unless you are unhappy about it. So, if you’re unhappy about how you feel, see a sex therapist. Asexual and demisexual people are not all automatically “damaged” or “traumatized” and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 06:59 AM |
| 9 | Women safe places on reddit are fucking bullshit and only cause a bigger divide between men and women.This insistence you have at ignoring women’s spaces is disturbing but not surprising. I don’t care if you don’t tell women in men’s spaces to F OFF. They shouldn’t be there. They shouldn’t be talking over men in their own spaces about their own feelings. So the fact that you feel comfortable doing that to women doesn’t make you a hero for not telling women to get lost. go talk over someone else, whine in & ruin other women’s spaces. And then wonder why women don’t want to talk to you. I’m bettin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 07:10 PM |
| 12 | Women safe places on reddit are fucking bullshit and only cause a bigger divide between men and women.It’s not your experience, it’s the location of that experience. In a space you don’t belong and we’re not invited to. That’s not hypocrisy, that’s tell you you’re whining to the wrong people. If you can’t see the entitlement of that, I certainly can’t help you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 06:54 PM |
| 23 | Women safe places on reddit are fucking bullshit and only cause a bigger divide between men and women.Yes. A man has spoken. Women’s experiences are not valid (“I’m not saying you’re lying, but you’re wrong”) about a women’s issues site. This is why women sometimes are unkind to men IN WOMEN’S SPACES. We didn’t invite you. Yet here you are, talking over actual women. Kindly F OFF. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 06:50 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionSo women aren’t dressing sexy for themselves and if they do, they’re narcissistic? I also dress my best when I go out, and at home, mainly when I’m feeling a little low. Knowing I look my best makes me feel more confident and comfortable with myself. You argue it is hair & makeup, then say it isn’t. You argue it’s not slutty clothes but then basically say slutty clothes are sexy. You’re not only full of contradictions, you also have a lot to say about a woman’s motivation when you aren’t one and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 07:11 PM |
| 0 | What advice would you give a "high value man" who is struggling with dating?So which is it? Is he what’s traditionally meant by socially awkward? Do you think he’s awkward in the way those who are on the spectrum can be awkward? Or do you think RWNJ is a form of “awkward”? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 07:52 PM |
| 0 | What advice would you give a "high value man" who is struggling with dating?Then let me explain it, simply. Elon musk is considered by some to be “awkward”, to some “on the spectrum” and to some a racist, sexist red pill/incel “hero”. So someone just saying “awkward like Elon musk” that could mean several different things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 11:45 AM |
| 1 | What advice would you give a "high value man" who is struggling with dating?Then I would recommend group dates until he relaxes a little and someone can get to see through the awkwardness. If a group goes bowling, dinner dates, trivia nights, it gives him a chance to be with other people he’s already less awkward with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 06:59 PM |
| 6 | What advice would you give a "high value man" who is struggling with dating?You also compared him to Elon musk. I don’t know in what way you meant, but musk isn’t just “awkward”, he’s a right wing leaning creep who stinks of red pill/incel ideology. I honestly wouldn’t date him with his billions. If your friend espouses the same ideology (pushing the envelope on racist, bigotry, sexist, etc.), not a lot of women are going to be attracted to that long enough to get past a few dates, even if he does have money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 06:46 PM |
| – | Men do not have high beauty standardsI’ve seen what men apparently think is average (rateme) and I’m not surprised more & more men are lonely. If I were to use their scale, they’re all a bunch of 3s calling women the rest of the world thinks of as beautiful 6s. Like Margot Robbie has been called “mid”, Taylor Swift “ugly”, Gal Gadot “old, mid”. As if any of them would turn down anyone like the women they’re dissing 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 01:26 AM |
| 0 | How are average looking men in this day and age supposed to meet women?What profession only exists in the “very woke western anglophone country of Canada”? Sincerely, someone from Canada | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 06:14 AM |
| 1 | What Things do You Do to Support the Opposite Sex?I have some background in mental health and volunteer at a men’s support center. It’s informal talk therapy, although licensed therapists are also available and supports men experiencing homelessness, DV, mental health issues, and socialization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/24 01:41 AM |
| – | The gender divide has become undeniable , can anything be done to solve this?Single women are the happiest cohort and that has been increasing. Women have been supporting themselves and leaving bad relationships for going on 40 years and that’s increasing. Nothing is going to suddenly reverse that within the next 6 or even 16 years. Women are saying out loud what they want (emotional stability & availability, a true partner in the home, someone they’re not a mommy-bangmaid to) and a lot of men aren’t listening. And just continue to blame it on “unrealistic standards”. An… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 09:23 PM |
| 2 | Why are so many girls wanting to have traditional marriages again?By “comfortable” I meant financially. As in, not worrying about where your next meal is coming for or if you can afford a sudden medical issue like little Tammy falling out of a tree & breaking an arm. If a woman finds running the household & performing 90% of household & childraising chores, good for her. Go for it. But that’s unfortunately not a realistic expectation anymore due to expenses. And if she has to work outside the home, it follows that he then has to work more inside the home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 12:39 AM |
| 7 | Why are so many girls wanting to have traditional marriages again?Again, show me where I made that a condition? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 03:07 AM |
| 12 | Why are so many girls wanting to have traditional marriages again?I am Gen-X and none of my contemporaries are ok with the mother doing 90% of the housework or child raising if she works FT. I know they do a lot more mental labour with the kids, but not pulling their own weight around with the kids (the physical care aspect) gets a lot of Gen-X people divorced these days. It may have started out acceptable but I think Gen-X was the generation where women started losing patience with being expected to “do it all” in housework or childcare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 03:06 AM |
| 15 | Why are so many girls wanting to have traditional marriages again?And I’m sure NY doesn’t help real estate prices. What’s your point? You’re trying SO hard to make what I said outrageous or unreasonable but I never said it was impossible. I said it depends on where you live. Next time read my comment before assuming you’re right about everything that I didnt say | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 01:58 AM |
| 20 | Why are so many girls wanting to have traditional marriages again?Where did I say ANYTHING like what you’re blathering on about? I raised a straightforward, non judgmental issue with affording a traditional marriage on one salary, and you go straight to bashing women. I said if she is still expected to do 90% and still work outside the home. Then yes, in that case he’s obviously sitting on his ass when he gets home. Which is kind of the deal and the agreement if a women chooses a traditional marriage. No hate for it, but if you can’t admit to facts… I can see … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 01:50 AM |
| 22 | Why are so many girls wanting to have traditional marriages again?That absolutely depends on where you live. $50k does NOT get you a middle class life with kids in most places in NA. And definitely not a house. Considering: How much of a mortgage can I get with a 50K salary? You can generally afford a home for between $180,000 and $250,000 (perhaps nearly $300,000) on a $50K salary. How much does a home cost in the United States? According to data from the National Association of Realtors, the median price for an existing home — one that's already standing, no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 01:49 AM |
| 23 | Why are so many girls wanting to have traditional marriages again?And there are men who want the benefits of a traditional wife but who can’t/won’t provide it. What both sides often overlook is that it’s nearly impossible to have a comfortable life with children (not extravagant, just comfortable) lifestyle on one salary so a lot of men want the traditional wife who used to do 90% of the housework & child raising but still expect (need) her to work for money. That’s no longer a “traditional” marriage and women who get into that situation soon learn it’s not su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 01:31 AM |
| 2 | Is it controlling to want your girlfriend to not go clubbing?I used to love going to clubs to dance with my friends. My ex wasn’t really a clubbing kinda guy, and we often just wanted “girls night”. But he was also told where we were going & could stop by for a surprise drink any time. So once in a blue moon, he’d show up & buy us a round, see we were safe & happy, & head out. It worked for us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/24 08:26 AM |
| – | Modern dating strategy: Dating multiple people before being exclusive - Are males against this?I think it depends on how it’s presented. I would never tell anyone what they can or cannot do. But if I said something like “I only sleep with on person at a time. So I don’t sleep with someone I’m ‘dating’ unless/until we’re on the same page. How do you feel about that?” Then someone is free to say “I normally sleep with multiple people if I’m dating/seeing multiple people so I’d find that restricting.” Then it’s up to me to decide to either be ok with that, or say thank you for being honest a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/24 01:57 AM |
| 1 | Women, what do you think is your responsibility in a relationship?Emotionally, it’s to be a friend, companion, cheer leader and shoulder to cry on. Planning partner, dreams coordinator, and at least half the mental load of planning dates & keeping things romantic. Maybe that’s running him a bath after his hard work out days, or a massage. Or surprising him with his favourite snacks & beverage for movie night. Physical work: what we agree to. If we’re living together, we’ll have agreed on a division of labour that makes neither of us feel overwhelmed or taken a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/24 04:51 AM |
| 11 | Women are afforded a lot more leeway in what they can get away withNo, they were asking the right questions and you’re bailing when the answers might be hard. The woman was charged. What else do you want? For people to dance on her grave? No, I wouldn’t celebrate a man’s suic!de either. But that’s not the comparison that really works, is it? Because I can’t find a similar story with a man at the center of it either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 07:55 PM |
| 5 | If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support?I meant it takes 2 to make a kid. Not 2 condoms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 06:59 PM |
| 2 | If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support?You can’t communicate clearly. At all. Learn English and try again after that. But on second thought, I’m pretty sure you have nothing of value to add to a conversation so feel free not to come back at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 11:43 AM |
| 2 | "You have to work 10 times harder than your grandfathers for women 10 times worse."And before marriage, women still very often had to have their father co-sign for credit cards, loans, leases, etc. so it was being controlled by your father or a husband. Great choice 🙄 Just because some women could, didn’t mean it was all women’s ability to do so. And until it was, getting married was often the only way out from under their father’s thumb. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 11:24 AM |
| 4 | "You have to work 10 times harder than your grandfathers for women 10 times worse."Women couldn’t have freaking bank accounts or credit cards without a father or husband’s co-sign right into the 1970s FFS. My own mother experienced DV and had issues getting out due to those things. This is literally part of my family history. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 11:16 AM |
| 7 | If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support?Absolutely. I also admitted, that both men & women can lie. But failing BC doesn’t bolster your argument. The bottom line is if it takes 2 to make it, it takes 2 to pay to raise it. No matter how it got here. And you didn’t answer what happens to all the men who suddenly decide to tell a judge they never wanted the kid/used BC/she lied (even if she didn’t) to avoid having to pay for a child, that was the product of, at the time, a consensual non-protected sexual encounter. There’s no fool proof … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 10:06 AM |
| 10 | If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support?I didn’t just say rape. Coercion, stealthing, changing their mind after the fact… all non consensual unprotected sex. So it’s not as minuscule as you claim. Plus, add the accidental pregnancies like BC failing… And you are absolutely moving the goalposts. First you’re saying if a woman chooses to have the baby the father should be able to avoid his financial responsibilities because she could have had an abortion, then you moralize about that abortion. And since a man can’t perform the pregnancy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 09:46 AM |
| 9 | If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support?“Whim”. Yes, women are running to abortion clinics, skipping and singing. And “allows it happen”? Please. As if you don’t know many abortions are not due to consensual non-protected sex. And now you’re moving the goalposts. We weren’t arguing the ethics of birth control. You were trying to make a case for a man being able to avoid financial responsibility if a woman didn’t chose an abortion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 09:38 AM |
| 3 | If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support?I didn’t spin anything. You literally said men could make women slaves. I’m talking like a grown up. Yes, a pissed off one. Go clutch your pearls about a pissed off woman elsewhere. We’re no longer awkwardly smiling at shit like this anymore. I’ll call it out every time I see it and if you have issue with it, cry. Do you often tell women to “calm down” when you threaten and insult them? Because you’re talking like a rapey, delusional misogynist with the whole “men can make women slaves by brute … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 09:26 AM |
| 2 | If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support?Or you could actually acquiesce to a woman’s request that you fuck off? Although I realize consent may be a foreign concept to you, with all the women-as-slaves fantasies and all. I wouldn’t discus the ABCs with someone like you. Your views are abhorrent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 09:17 AM |
| 3 | If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support?You said men could keep women as slaves. That’s not a language boo-boo. No one hurt me. But you pissed me off. If you want to call that triggered, have a cookie. You achieved your aim. I don’t hate men. I actually like and even love many of them. But I severely dislike you. And nowhere did I imply I hated men or blamed men. I argued your claim men love & protect women. And you went to “men can make women slaves hurr derr durr” I don’t care to hear any more of your “I triggered the female” or “I’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 09:13 AM |
| 5 | If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support?Nope. If he’s that concerned, get snipped. Just like a woman should be getting sterilized if she never wants kids. Difference is, it’s invasive surgery and cannot be reversed for women. Wear condoms. Every time. Get snipped. Know & trust the women you sleep with. You make it, you pay for it. Both men & women. How often do you think it would happen that a man says he’s infertile or the condom broke (or insert excuse here) and they haven’t had the convo, and she wants to keep the kid, so he just s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 09:04 AM |
| 1 | What age is dating truly over for a guy?You must be dating a peculiar type of woman, since none that I know ask men their experience level before they start dating. Sure, the discuss sexual history at some point, but not on the first date or before being intimate (or planning on being intimate). I have literally never asked a guy if he’s kissed a girl before I’ve dated him or even kissed him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 07:58 AM |
| 5 | If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support?Cite your source, because I’m coming up with that statistic. “The type of reversal procedure you'll have depends on your individual situation and what your doctor thinks will work best for you. The rates of success vary depending on the type of procedure and the skill of the doctor. But in general, vasectomy reversals work in about 85 out of 100 people.Oct 18, 2022 Are vasectomies reversible? - Planned Parenthood” And freezing spermicide is still better than treating women like breeding stock if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 07:55 AM |
| 2 | If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support?I’m not reading or responding to a single f’ing thing you had to say, other than this. Make us slaves? This isn’t a one-on-one strength match. Do you think all men are are going to join you in that endeavor? Since 51% of the population is female. Do you realize 46% of gun owners are women? Have you even seen dystopian fiction movies that show women kicking men’s asses when they try that shit? I dare you to try to lay a hand on me. I truly dare you. You cowardly narcissistic misogynistic jackass.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 07:52 AM |
| 6 | If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support?Only 5-10% are unreversible. And sperm can also be frozen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 07:16 AM |
| 7 | If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support?“We are protecting you, take care of you & love you”. If all that were true, there’d be no children abandoned physically & financially by fathers and no women being abused. And then you point out you’re a huge minority. So you agree men don’t protect, care & love women & their children? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 07:09 AM |
| 4 | Do most women really dislike being approached in general?Absolutely not. But the number of men who can’t tell “social event/environment” from “I’m running errands/doing something obviously solo” is next to zero. I’ve had 100 times as many cold approaches while running errands as I have in a bar or art show, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 06:04 AM |
| 19 | If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support?It’s up to 50% of disposable income. Huge difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 05:43 AM |
| 19 | If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support?First, why wasn’t he wearing condoms? As I said, it takes 2 and if he’s not protecting himself, it’s his problem. Just like women who believe men who say their infertile. I said women lie too, so he should be taking care of his own BC. Up to and including a vasectomy if you don’t want to wear/don’t trust condoms. Show me a guideline or court order ANYWHERE in North America, that allows 40% of pay for one child. Even multi-millionaires don’t pay 40% of their salary for child support. And the only… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 05:29 AM |
| 38 | If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support?If it takes 2 to make a baby, it takes 2 to pay to raise a baby. End of discussion. You don’t get a free pass. Neither does a woman. If a woman had a child & the father had full custody, the woman should be paying support using the same guidelines used to determine what a man would pay. As for abortion, when a woman can transfer a fertilized egg to a man to carry, pretty much magically, then men can have a say in abortion. Until then, you’re right, women have to take on ALL a the risk & downside… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 05:11 AM |
| 2 | Modern dating strategy: Dating multiple people before being exclusive - Are males against this?That’s something, an expectation, that should absolutely be discussed immediately. I usually only sleep with one person at a time (you know what I mean) so it’s not a big deal for me, but if I expected someone to be sexually monogamous from the first date, I’d be telling them that on the first date. They could be perfectly willing to do that, but it’s not their usual MO so if they’re not told, you’re just setting them up to fail. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 04:15 AM |
| 1 | Modern dating strategy: Dating multiple people before being exclusive - Are males against this?Are you sexually exclusive from the first date on too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 04:08 AM |
| 2 | In what way would you like men to open up to you about their problems so you don't feel like their mom/therapist?First, no trauma dumping. If we’re not close friends or partners, I’m not qualified to be even your “shoulder to cry on”. If we are close friends or partners, try to be clear on what you’re looking for. Do you want me to just listen, or do you want suggestions on how to “fix” a problem? Then, if after some time of venting or problem solving it’s not helping, understand that if I say it’s time for therapy, that’s not me wiping my hands or you - that’s me saying you need more help than just I can … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 01:47 AM |
| 5 | Do you believe life is generally easier as a single person?100%. I’ve said for years now I will never again live with someone or most likely even enter a LTR. It’s a lot of sacrifice, compromise and often heartache & frustration for very little return (I speak only for myself of course) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 01:21 AM |
| 1 | How would you prefer a man express their interest in you?100% this If I’m at a bar, a book club, a sip & paint, etc., I expect to meet new people. If I’m trying to get my banking done and grab a few groceries before the snow starts, it’s just tone deaf and kinda rude. And I’ll always be open to taking a guy’s number if there’s even a hint of a spark. But I’m much more hesitant to give out mine. I mean, Ted Bundy was known for his charm 🤷♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/24 07:41 PM |
| 0 | Current dating attitudes.I expect whoever asked the other out on a date to pay, but am absolutely not offended if asked to split. If I ask, I fully expect to pay. And I want to. But if someone insists on splitting, I’m not going to make it awkward by arguing about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/24 12:51 PM |
| 3 | Serious question for the ladys: Do you find this kind of man attractiv?He did include work on his computer as part of his day so either social media or WFH, even PT, seems to be happening. I swore I’m done with dating, but I’m half in love with this guy already lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/24 04:08 AM |
| 3 | Are you sure you're aware of the consequences of men stoicly accepting being singleYou’re literally commenting on a question for women. You want women to leave you alone, perhaps don’t invade their spaces/questions & then bitch about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/24 01:25 AM |
| 2 | Do you think older, single, childless, "cat ladies" are largely happy or not?Because you suck? Nope, I’m ok with that. It was expected. Carry on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 04:02 AM |
| 3 | Do you think older, single, childless, "cat ladies" are largely happy or not?Oh no! I have a cat! That must mean I’m miserable and lonely. Thanks for letting me know, since I’ve been living a fabulous, happy & fulfilled life by accident. And one study synopsis, 20 years old and based in Norwegian respondents doesn’t even support your statement. It actually states “early motherhood, childlessness and low parity are associated with higher usage of antidepressants in late mid-life. Our data did not allow identification of mediating pathways, and we lacked information on ear… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 02:14 AM |
| 3 | Do you think older, single, childless, "cat ladies" are largely happy or not?Sure Jan 🙄 Anything that doesn’t fit your preconceived beliefs that a woman has to be miserable without a man obviously cannot be true. So you’ll have no problem citing these studies showing that previous studies have been debunked. Or is this a “trust me bro” citation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 11:33 PM |
| 7 | Do you think older, single, childless, "cat ladies" are largely happy or not?I really think happiness is sometimes a choice. Or a recognition of letting go of societal expectations. I thought I needed to be in a relationship to be “happy” or “complete”. Once I realized I didn’t, and stopped feeling there was something wrong with me for feeling that way, life got so much easier. And therefore happier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 09:40 PM |
| 14 | Do you think older, single, childless, "cat ladies" are largely happy or not?There are also studies that show unmarried childfree (not childLESS) women are the happiest segment of society. I’m absolutely one of them. I’ve had 2 LTR relationships in my life, as well as casually dating in between, and I’ve never been happier than I am now, a “cat lady of a certain age”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 09:11 PM |
| – | Men empathize with lonely women. Women are disgusted by lonely menAnd you can’t take no for an answer. Shocker. I’m not heated, I’m icked out. I’m not the one who started whining about why men are lonely (woman bad) and tell me I’m not reading it right? You changed the topic mid-comment. Like had any bearing on whether or not men got sympathy or was ever a topic of conversation? Be disappointed all you like. But at least go away disappointed. Or do I actually have to block you? because telling you “no” isn’t working. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/23 03:10 PM |
| – | Men empathize with lonely women. Women are disgusted by lonely menI didn’t speak for all women, nor all men. You’re saying not all men can project onto women but here you are, doing that to me. And what are you going on about that some men have been done wrong by women? How does that relate to whether or not lonely men get sympathy? Of course some men have been unjustly hurt by women. Where did I say they weren’t? But why am I supposed to be “admitting” to that? Is it just to make you feel “right” about something? It has nothing to do with the subject at hand.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/23 03:00 PM |
| – | Men empathize with lonely women. Women are disgusted by lonely menBecause I’ve offered sympathy? FFS. Where do you think lonely men are supposed to get sympathy? Walmart? From other people. And as one of those people, I’m telling you, genuinely lonely men often get real sympathy. You sound like one of the ones I don’t sympathize with so I can understand your confusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/23 02:49 PM |
| -1 | Men empathize with lonely women. Women are disgusted by lonely menI don’t necessarily agree that women don’t sympathize with men. Genuinely lonely men (& women) get sympathy. But I mean normal, reasonable lonely people. Not the incel/RP version of lonely which apparently is just having sex with everyone they want. But I love the fact none of them can get it through their heads that “lonely” isn’t solved by having sex with just anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/23 09:42 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many men seem not to know how to hold a conversation? Has covid ruined men's ability to be able to stimulate a woman's mindI’ve notice women will say other women are beautiful, quite easily. Whereas men are immediately accused of being gay if they even hunt that they find another man attractive. That, unfortunately, is another symptom and result of toxic masculinity. But attractiveness is so subjective that although you say Leonard (not Johnny Galecki) is attractive, most people do not and he was meant to be at very best average, not cute or handsome | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/23 09:35 AM |
| 44 | Men empathize with lonely women. Women are disgusted by lonely menI empathize with anyone is is lonely. Male, female, conventionally attractive or not. The only time I take issue with a “lonely man” is when they make it my (or another woman’s) problem/fault. Whether it’s blaming women whose standards he doest meet (for whatever reason) or me for firmly rejecting sexual advances & ending the friendship if he doesn’t accept that gracefully, men who blame others, often in incel/RP tropes and toxic language, for his loneliness no longer deserve empathy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/23 03:00 AM |
| 1 | For those of you who think women can get anything for free?I never spoke about other people, I commented on my friends and experience. No, I do not believe have have males friends that would drop everything and help me with anything other than friendship as motivation. I do not have friends “waiting for their turn”. And you can say that’s only my belief but not the truth, but then why are you bothering to have this discussion if you’re not going to believe anyone else’s experience? And no, I don’t believe any of my male friends would rush over for a hoo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/23 09:42 PM |
| -2 | The talking point that "older men prey on young girls because older women are less willing to put up with their bullshit" misses the mark.I posted my own experience and there are dozens of women (here & elsewhere on similar threads/subs) doing the same, but apparently you “don’t believe in the power imbalance” I just posted the damned definition of grooming that includes the power imbalance dynamic yet you say it doesn’t apply. I didn’t call them pedophiles. But yes, the term “grooming” applies. I am not painting young women as anything. THEY, THEMSELVES say it and men like you deny their experience. And the reason gender relation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 03:28 PM |
| 2 | Is it common to look up the salary of your date's job?Maybe it is. In some circles. But I’d definitely feel some sort of way if I knew anyone doing this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 02:53 PM |
| 3 | For those of you who think women can get anything for free?Fuck no. Why would I encourage or even tolerate that kind of behavior? Why would I expect anyone to pay for my food that they are not even sharing? I would call any friend after a breakup, expecting NONE of them to “waiting their turn”. That’s not a friend at all. That whole line of questioning is disgusting. So I reject your premise a friend can be a simp and vice versa. That’s not a friend. Period. And I wouldn’t be being a friend to them, just a future hopeful opportunity by the way you descr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 02:48 PM |
| -1 | For those of you who think women can get anything for free?Oh, so she’s a 6 is a positive statement? Because by saying it’s what “keeps” her at a 6 sounds negative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 01:52 PM |
| 1 | More feminine type males tend to be attracted to "alpha" women?My ex was considered typically masculine. The cliche tall, dark & handsome. Bit of a gym nut. Drove fast cars & liked working on them. Opened doors & held umbrellas. Executive job. Thought coolers were “froo froo”. He was also the most laid back dude when it came to planning & most day-to-day decisions. What to eat? Don’t care. Preferred I do any formal complaining - he didn’t enjoy confrontation. Wasn’t afraid of it, just didn’t care to do it and secure enough in his masculinity to say he didn’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 12:38 PM |
| 3 | For those of you who think women can get anything for free?🧐 are you sure you’re red pill? You sound awfully reasonable 😂 I won’t even be friends with a woman who uses people. For clout, money, whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 11:38 AM |
| 0 | For those of you who think women can get anything for free?At least you’re admitting some women would have to try. I’ve got someone elsewhere telling me I’m a liar for saying I don’t have a wimp lol. And I’m sorry, I didn’t mean you in particular, just a lot of men on this and RP subs. I checked out rateme once and nearly died from the delulu 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 11:30 AM |
| 1 | Why is there a shame in expressing your masculinity?I truly think many men cannot see the line between masculinity and toxic masculinity. For example, no one said you have to act docile and submissive in order not to be an aggressive dangerous man. If a man raises his voice to me to asset dominance, or a hand (ever, unless I’m serious self defense) that’s toxic masculinity. That’s supposed to mean a not raised voice is docile or submissive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 11:24 AM |
| -6 | For those of you who think women can get anything for free?So men just assume she’s not naturally slight or has a thin face or that it’s the camera angle? And if she was 8.23lbs heavier, would she then be fat? FFS. Women have absolutely impossible standards to live up to and men insist she “just not be obese” and she’ll have men falling all over her and simps in every corner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 11:11 AM |
| – | Young women can be very abusive&manipulative in a relationship regardless of their partner's ageDidn’t eject me?? He pursued me. I wouldn’t have approached him in a million years. But point taken. You can’t take no for an answer when told someone doesn’t want to converse with you. Shocker. Blocked it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 11:06 AM |
| – | Young women can be very abusive&manipulative in a relationship regardless of their partner's ageManipulation is a form of force. Grooming is manipulation. But apparently that floats your boat. I don’t want to converse with you further because I think it’s creepy to blame a 17yo over a 28yo. If I have to block you to boost your ego so you’ll leave me alone I can do that. Because that’s how it usually goes with RP. Go. Away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 10:51 AM |
| – | Young women can be very abusive&manipulative in a relationship regardless of their partner's ageYour examples are not common and are barely plausible. And talking about a 15YO who “has some experience” and a 19yo who’s oh so innocent? That’s an adult having sex with a child and you’re acting like she’s the manipulator?? If she can’t even get a freaking driving license, he shouldn’t be having sex with her. And I was the 17yo w/ the 28yo engineer “nice guy”. I didn’t have “fuckboys”, I was GROOMED. When your examples happen even one one-hundredth as often as older men manipulating young girl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 10:39 AM |
| 0 | The talking point that "older men prey on young girls because older women are less willing to put up with their bullshit" misses the mark.You really want to blame a 17yo for being impressed when a 28yo put effort into it? Go nuts if that makes sense to you. But that IS the whole freaking point about grooming and what’s wrong with age gap relationships. I can’t tell if you’re a troll or sea-lioning. In either case, leave me alone. I’m not interested in someone who blames a 17yo for falling for it, just like the 28yo man planned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 09:58 AM |
| 1 | Men need to make these dating resolutions in 2024I actually like your resolutions. Quite a bit. Even the 2 weeks. I’m on the shy side and feel really pressured when someone can’t spend a week or two chatting and getting to know each other at least a little before being pressured to meet. Asking is fine. But when I say I’d rather chat for a little bit (not forever, 2 weeks seems more than reasonable) and get hounded about it, I say thank you, no and move on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 09:29 AM |
| 2 | Men need to make these dating resolutions in 2024If your idea of success is not being pepper sprayed, I have some news for you lol. The reason we say cold approaches don’t work is that even when we don’t pepper spray you, we’re 1000x more likely to be wary, on guard and not as open than if we met in an organic way - like a painting class or a social function. If I’m at that kind of event, I fully expect to be approached with small talk, whether from other women looking to make friends, or men looking for friendship or dating. If I’m minding my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 09:27 AM |
| -1 | The talking point that "older men prey on young girls because older women are less willing to put up with their bullshit" misses the mark.Because I was groomed. Nice to see you’re catching on. Old men are more established than a 17yo boy and can use money, experience, influence to impress & manipulate women so much younger than they. I wasn’t even legally an adult. But most of the guys here don’t care, because a) I was past the age of consent or b) I knew exactly what I was doing. It’s not hard for a 28yo man to outshine a hypothetical 17yo boy. And you know it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 08:53 AM |
| -1 | The talking point that "older men prey on young girls because older women are less willing to put up with their bullshit" misses the mark.It’s amazing how many men claim to know the experiences and inner thoughts of women. “They knew very well what they were doing” Tell that to my 17yo self being groomed by a 28yo. Oh yeah, I was totally the one in charge in that relationship. 🤡 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 08:36 AM |
| -3 | The talking point that "older men prey on young girls because older women are less willing to put up with their bullshit" misses the mark.No wonder things are so f’d up if people think this crap. You’re wrong. “Grooming can happen when there is a power differential within a relationship, which the abuser exploits for their own gratification. This is most commonly recognised as a tactic used by perpetrators of child sexual abuse, both on children and parents. However, adults can also be groomed.” It’s about the power imbalance which is what we8re talking about when we say older men groom younger women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 08:29 AM |
| 3 | A lot of men waste time on women who don't really appreciate them.Right. So you don’t know what a debate is, and don’t understand comparison. Got it. I can see why your other post was removed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 06:56 AM |
| 2 | Is it common to look up the salary of your date's job?Until discussing a joint purchase or moving in together? NO. Just, why? If we’re not living together, he’s paying his own way and his finances are absolutely none of my business. IF we’re getting close enough for me to consider hitching my financial future to his, honest conversation will be had. And I’d check if I didn’t think things sounded right (if I though he was lying about income or debt, that’s kinda already the death of the relationship though). I’m not saying everyone else feels this w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 06:41 AM |
| 6 | For those of you who think women can get anything for free?Dude, I’ve offered MY hoody to a male friend who seems to be cold. And no, other than people offering to buy for the group (say, at someone’s house playing board games & the host offers to buy pizzas for everyone), no one buys me food. Unless you mean like friends who offer to buy me a pretzel when they’re getting one? Like when I offer to buy them a muffin because I’m getting one? No matter if it’s male, female… That, compliments and emotional support” and favours ARE what friendship is. I’m so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 06:04 AM |
| 3 | A lot of men waste time on women who don't really appreciate them.Is there a question in there somewhere? How is this a debate? You’ve made sweeping generalization statements and asked no questions or asked for anyone’s input or experience. So all I have to say is “women appreciate a man who plans things and remembers to call on birthdays and anniversaries but most men never do” and that’s a debate post? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 05:49 AM |
| 11 | For those of you who think women can get anything for free?“Vast majority of women”. Maybe the vast majority of women you know. I don’t know anyone (personally, of course I know of people on line) like that. Every single one of my women friends, acquaintances and family make their own money, pay their own bills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 05:36 AM |
| 2 | For those of you who think women can get anything for free?How do I know I have a simp and not a friend? Since I don’t ask men for money? I either have no simps or they don’t offer to buy me things (which would mean they’re not simps, no?) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 05:33 AM |
| 2 | For those of you who think women can get anything for free?I puked in my mouth a little reading it lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 05:32 AM |
| 5 | For those of you who think women can get anything for free?Weight level? What weight level? I don’t under what you’re referring to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 05:31 AM |
| 4 | For those of you who think women can get anything for free?But I make it clear I’m not good to go with ONS or UTF. I don’t sleep with someone on the first date. With that on my profile, I was not getting offers from guys to pay for dates. Offers for dates, a few. But happy to do no-cost or split cost dates. And I’ve been told I’m pleasant to look at and converse with, so…? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 05:30 AM |
| 15 | For those of you who think women can get anything for free?Well, count me in that column too. Other than 4 of us being bought a round of drinks by a group of guys (we reciprocated), I have never been bought a drink. Never had bills paid. Never “dated for dinner”. I’ve had a few guys offer to pay for a first date dinner, but I’ve suggested splitting instead and was always taken up on that idea (which I’m perfectly fine with, or I wouldn’t have offered). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 05:28 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many men seem not to know how to hold a conversation? Has covid ruined men's ability to be able to stimulate a woman's mindYou’re honestly the first man that has said Leonard (in the show, not the dressed up Johnny Galecki) is good looking. And yes, my BF did have lot of female friends lol. And make friends. He was just a nice, happy, easy to get long with guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/23 09:07 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many men seem not to know how to hold a conversation? Has covid ruined men's ability to be able to stimulate a woman's mindSee? No matter what I say, I’m told I’m lying. Or “wrong”. As in stupid. If I, every one of my friends and the person in question says they’re objectively “below average”, are they not below average? Why is it so impossible to believe that someone who is below average in looks but has other attractive traits, grooms themselves well and has a personality can be dating regularly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 08:39 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many men seem not to know how to hold a conversation? Has covid ruined men's ability to be able to stimulate a woman's mindYou say that’s not out of the ordinary and I actually agree. But I’ve been told (harangued at) that it’s not the norm and my experience is either a freak accident or I’m lying or I knew he has money or blah blah blah. But I do disagree that all below average men don’t get a chance at all to show their other traits. I know people who have dated “below average” *in looks” and I know people who consider themselves below average in looks that date regularly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 08:25 AM |
| – | Debunking normie advice pt 1: "go back to school and get a real job"Just to agree with you in the fallacy of the “get a real job” idea. You’re right, when meeting women, your salary or bank balance is not floating over your head in a thought bubble. If you are decently groomed & dressed, no one is making presumptions about your income. Also, many people don’t agree with what “a real job” is. Is it one that makes enough money to support yourself (my personal belief)? One that makes a lot of money? One that’s your passion, even if it doesn’t pay the bills (like be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 06:46 AM |
| 5 | Is women's sexuality more self-centered than men's?That was just one example. And the only issue you took notice of. Not that some men refuse to listen to/do what a woman needs to orgasm. Not that women know how to touch themselves. Not that some men refuse to put more effort in than just PIV sex. Your only takeaway was the toys? I’ve also heard of men refusing to do oral, refusing to use their fingers as instructed or being appalled if a woman touches herself while they are having sex. Some women don’t want to have to do it for themselves and f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 04:23 AM |
| 2 | Is women's sexuality more self-centered than men's?Because women touch themselves in ways they know work, and a lot of men refuse to put any more effort into it than PIV sex. I’ve read a lot of posts where men have freaked TF out if their partner wanted to introduce toys into their sex routine because she couldn’t orgasm through penetrative sex. Men will almost 100% orgasm through PIV sex. So if a man refuses to listen to/do what a woman needs to orgasm but a woman will, that explains the orgasm gap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 04:06 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many men seem not to know how to hold a conversation? Has covid ruined men's ability to be able to stimulate a woman's mindNo, when someone says “you wouldn’t give an unattractive dude a chance” I’m questioning the idea that everyone has the same scale for attractiveness. My boyfriend would be considered average by most. Maybe unattractive by some. I thought he was cute initially even though objectively he was average in almost every way (in looks). I thought he was handsome by the time we were actually dating. My friends still saw him as average, cute or even unattractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 02:29 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many men seem not to know how to hold a conversation? Has covid ruined men's ability to be able to stimulate a woman's mindI just said, if he dressed like he did on the show, and you didn’t know his bank account. Nor did any woman at the bar. So now you’re saying a stereotypical “geek” is a sure bet with women at the bars? I said my BF “looked more like” Leonard than “Chad” meaning he was average. Average or less height (he was 5’7”), average weight, average looks. Like half the guys at the bar that night. A neighborhood bar having trivia night. If he’d been slovenly, inappropriately dressed (dirty clothes) and unke… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 12:16 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many men seem not to know how to hold a conversation? Has covid ruined men's ability to be able to stimulate a woman's mindThere wasn’t a quick spark or of physical attraction. Women aren’t all “yes/no”. There’s a level of “maybe” for a lot of us. I gave him a chance to talk to me because he wasn’t ill-groomed, was dressed appropriately (just a button down shirt & jeans, but appropriately for that bar), smiled while he talked and seemed genuine and happy to be there. I mean he actually looked just like Leonard, but more the idea he was more average (height, body, objective looks) than someone I’d rate as “handsome”.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 12:13 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many men seem not to know how to hold a conversation? Has covid ruined men's ability to be able to stimulate a woman's mindIf someone can generalize “looks and money are way more helpful to get a man laid”, on a debate/discussion page, it is allowed and expected someone counter that with real life exceptions. I made it clear I was offering my experience. And then said I expected someone to come along and say it doesn’t me “all men”. Why is it I get attacked when sharing any experience that goes against the generalizations made by red pill men? If you don’t want discussion & debate, why are you here? Just to attack w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 12:03 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many men seem not to know how to hold a conversation? Has covid ruined men's ability to be able to stimulate a woman's mindHe died. Accident. After 2.5 years together. I’m not sure we ever would have “lived happily ever after”, but we were happy for that time together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many men seem not to know how to hold a conversation? Has covid ruined men's ability to be able to stimulate a woman's mindTalking about star gazing or science discoveries or art isn’t my “world view”. It’s a discussion. An exchange of information and ideas for the purpose of communicating and engaging. I’m sorry you seem to think everything has to be so adversarial and a battle | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 11:59 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many men seem not to know how to hold a conversation? Has covid ruined men's ability to be able to stimulate a woman's mindHow did I say dating a “Leonard” would be dating down? I didn’t call him ugly. I called him cute. And the fact that he’s attractive in more ways than just being “classically handsome” was exactly my point that you’re now attacking me for. Some of you really don’t want to hear women at all, do you? Unless I fit your stereotype, you’ll put words in my mouth, say I’m lying, move the goalposts, etc. Why are you here if you don’t want a discussion? Just to attack everything women say? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 11:55 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many men seem not to know how to hold a conversation? Has covid ruined men's ability to be able to stimulate a woman's mindWhere did I call Leonard ugly? I called him cute. This is the moving the goalposts & putting words in our mouths red pills do that make women feel they’re not arguing in good faith. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 11:52 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many men seem not to know how to hold a conversation? Has covid ruined men's ability to be able to stimulate a woman's mindHonest question. So if you saw someone who looked like him, knowing it wasn’t HIM, fame & money included, you’d think he had a shot with lots of women because he looks like someone who slept with Haley Cuoco? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 11:51 PM |
| 0 | Why do so many men seem not to know how to hold a conversation? Has covid ruined men's ability to be able to stimulate a woman's mindAnd there’s the “not all men”. Just as scheduled. I never said all men. You did. You’re literally discounting my experience. “Good conversation might make men interesting., but looks and money are way more helpful to getting laid quickly. I said not for me. Ok, so I’m lying? And so are the other women who say this - more women than you choose to believe when we tell you? Your loss 🤷♀️ I wish you luck with your narrow minded ways. I hope they work for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 09:07 AM |
| – | Why do so many men seem not to know how to hold a conversation? Has covid ruined men's ability to be able to stimulate a woman's mindOh, so daring to argue with you, oh wizard of oz, is a defense mechanism. I call it arguing. But whatevs. By “talked over” I mean at such a high level I’m not part of the conversation. I can do that with a professor in a lecture hall. Hint: that’s not a conversation. And you admitted you’re not “explaining”. You admitted straight up you’re bullshitting. Don’t move the goalposts now champ. Yes, I have 2 degrees. A BSc and a masters in English language and linguistics. Neither of which is necessar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 09:02 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many men seem not to know how to hold a conversation? Has covid ruined men's ability to be able to stimulate a woman's mindI’m going to be brutally honest because you answered without an insult. At first I thought he was “cute”. And that was enough to spend a little time talking with him. And since I don’t sleep with someone immediately, it was also enough to go on a few dates. Feeding the ducks in the park. The space exhibit at a museum. Talking dates. Holding hands. To see how things go. Because I am a sapiosexual. I fall for someone’s intellect, charm, personality, enthusiasm… whatever you want to call it. The mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 08:45 AM |
| -2 | Why do so many men seem not to know how to hold a conversation? Has covid ruined men's ability to be able to stimulate a woman's mindMy last BF looked more like Leonard from the Big Bang than a “Chad” to use your parlance. He started explaining more about the Higgs boson and I was interested. I know that doesn’t fit your narrative so you’ll either scold me for having a personal anecdote that doesn’t fit in your box, scream “not all men just because of your ONE” or tell me I’m lying. Go for it. Cope however you have to. Guys who are excited about things are smart, excited and infectious in their enthusiasm. Like y’all keep say… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 08:21 AM |
| – | Why do so many men seem not to know how to hold a conversation? Has covid ruined men's ability to be able to stimulate a woman's mindSo you think women are idiots you can spout nonsense, sophistry, any fallacy you can think of… but if you use a “curious” voice she won’t know the difference? You’re an idiot. And I’m being calm & rational. Maybe even curious as to how you think this works with every subject. It’s not just “intelligence”. I don’t value someone who talks so far over me I’m not participating. I don’t want to be lectures to. I want an actual conversation. So your bullshit won’t work right out of the gate. I want to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 08:17 AM |
| – | A man who's sexually inexperienced is not a "red flag"I’m simply pointing out it isn’t “all women” as implied in OPs question. I never once said all men. You did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 06:59 AM |
| – | A man who's sexually inexperienced is not a "red flag"My husband was a 27yo virgin. Deal with it. If someone is honest and even a little adventurous and not intimidated by a woman telling him what she likes, it’s absolutely fine. We had a great sex life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 06:49 AM |
| 2 | Woman who complain about ot being able to find a "good man" just have very high standardsAlthough there are definitely women out there who have higher standards than I would find realistic, they’re allowed to have them. Just as men are. However, I don’t know any of them. Most are like me. I want a man who’s either my height (5’7”) or not subconscious about being shorter (because I don’t care but if he he does, it impacts his self esteem in an unhealthy way and it’s not good for a relationship), makes enough to support himself (rent, transportation, groceries, etc - I’m not asking hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 11:51 PM |
| 2 | Women, I have questionsI’m happy for your mother. But the fact women couldn’t have a credit card or a bank loan without hubby’s approval kinda says otherwise. Women have had to “handle” men’s moods for decades. Be soft. Be compliant. Be pleasant. Be non confrontational. Or what? Or not “be allowed” get a credit card. Or get abused in ways that weren’t even illegal until relatively recently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 11:04 PM |
| 9 | Women, I have questionsUsing the phrase “before” makes me feel like you’ve noticed women have generally stopped being pliant and agreeable when being criticized by men. We’ve begun “matching energy” and many think it’s “aggressive” or “hostile”, when in reality, we’re just responding in similar ways men do. I’m not going to nod & smile while you criticize me or let you pat me on the head, infantilize me or be sexist without speaking up. More and more women are speaking up and I see more and more men saying it’s a turn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 11:00 PM |
| 4 | Women vaughly labeling the average guy a "pushover" and "not assertive enough" is causes men to over compensate in dangerous waysYeah, see there’s the problem. Intellectual guy? Kinda intriguing. Maybe hot. Intellectual guy who’s cultivating intellect to “get them bitches”? 🤮 We’re not stupid. That red pill/incel/Tate crap attitude kills any points you mighta had going for you with the “cute nerdy guy” or the “wicked smart guy”. It’s just another “angle”. Another PUA thing. And we’re out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 06:57 AM |
| – | Why do men make fun of things women like?That “boys will be boys” bullshit of pulling your pigtails/negging is pathetic. An instant turnoff. I have no problem with lighthearted teasing when you know someone and your respect for them has been established, but to use it as a flirting technique is just ick. It’s childish at best and manipulative at worst. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 10:20 PM |
| – | Why do men make fun of things women like?It’s called negging and should have died in the 2010s when women started realizing what was going on. Now men are just shooting themselves in the foot when they do it, since instead of making a woman insecure, it just kills any attraction she may have had for the guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 10:16 PM |
| – | why do people act like it’s so hard to sexually please women?Sure they do bug guy. Sure they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 04:33 PM |
| – | The fact that so many women have a problem with a man who goes 50/50 is proof that most women just want to use men and don't actually care about them.Oh, so all YOUR experiences are “the real world” but mine are “funny”? Typical. I know very few men who are man enough to contribute 50% of anything BUT money. I’d rather have a dedicated artist who barely makes his rent who shows me respect & affection and care than some deluded “alpha” bro who thinks he can buy respect and is going to run off home invaders on the regular. More likely shoot himself while cleaning his gun (statistically true). I’m also smart enough not to assume I can “beat” som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 04:26 PM |
| 2 | why do people act like it’s so hard to sexually please women?That’s so cute you see me as privileged. But then, as someone whose views don’t paint me as an incel misogynist, perhaps I am. Sorry for your hardships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 01:35 PM |
| 3 | why do people act like it’s so hard to sexually please women?You can attempt to belittle me with fake endearments but I couldn’t care less. Your comment screams incel and you’re telling on yourself with every new comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 01:25 PM |
| 2 | why do people act like it’s so hard to sexually please women?At least some of them are lying to you just to get it over with. It’s statistical fact. Youre not the “magic penis” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 01:21 PM |
| 2 | why do people act like it’s so hard to sexually please women?Wow. I can see why you never get anywhere with them. & it has nothing to do with looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 01:19 PM |
| 5 | The fact that so many women have a problem with a man who goes 50/50 is proof that most women just want to use men and don't actually care about them.Yes, but not money, as you all seem to think. We want 50% EFFORT. 50% around the house, with the kids, planning and social obligations, care & attention, thoughtfulness. If I can pay my own bills (which I do), can manage my own house (which I do), can spend attention & care on a partner, why the hell would I want a man who doesn’t pull his own weight? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 12:53 PM |
| 0 | The fact that so many women have a problem with a man who goes 50/50 is proof that most women just want to use men and don't actually care about them.Since I do 100% of all of that when single, damned right I want a man to put in 50% if we’re in a relationship. 50% effort at least. Enough to support himself financially, even if it’s not as much as I make/spend. And yes, I have fixed a flood and I have my own firearms and I can afford my own bills and to pay someone to do anything I’m not talented enough to do myself. So why shouldn’t a man put in 50%? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 12:46 PM |
| 4 | Men pursue “fake” women the mostMen are famously bad at knowing if/how much makeup a woman is wearing. Sure, when it’s obvious gold/green eyeshadow and “instagram eyebrows” and big false eyelashes - but I have seen So. Many. Men. call a woman makeup free or natural beauty when we women all know she’s wearing foundation, concealer, contour, highlight, eyeliner and mascara. I’ve seen (& heard, in person) men ask if someone’s sick/tired because they weren’t wearing makeup. Men want expertly done makeup & plastic surgery. Not “pla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 11:19 PM |
| 1 | The only reason women have such an extreme upper hand in dating is for one simple reason - men are way hornierI think you’ve really hit on the right explanation (in many cases). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 02:59 AM |
| – | Domestic ViolenceSoooooo sorry your highness. Let me correct my statement. Great way of implying through multiple “you’re lying” or “fault statements” that nothing done is right/enough. You’re not even coming close to making your statements seem reasonable, arguing in good faith or constructive. So Buh bye | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 02:52 AM |
| 32 | Are/Have female breadwinners (been) willing to do the OUTSIDE the house work?Are you seriously implying women can’t negotiate for a fucking car successfully? Are you for real right now? I negotiated for my ex’s BMW and got a price 12% less than he did (he went alone in the morning, I went alone in the afternoon) and I bought a current year (used 6 months) Jeep wrangler for 28% less than asking with no trade in or financing. And that Jeep has been worry free for years. I also bought all the major components in my house (new gas furnace, new metal roof, windows & doors & c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 04:50 AM |
| 2 | Domestic ViolenceGreat way of declaring it’s pointless to even try to help men. Way to go! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Domestic ViolenceI’m becoming convinced that some men are hiding behind “the system sucks/doesn’t treat men fairly/it’s biased” etc… to cover the fact they’re not using the services due to this type of shame. And it sucks. But it doesn’t help anyone in the long run. And since most of the shaming comes from other men and/or men say they care about their male contemporaries opinion more than women’s, it has to start with educating men that their well being is too important to care what other randos (male or female… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 11:11 AM |
| 3 | Domestic ViolenceYour half-hearted “olive branch” still ended with another blame statement (lack of reach) with zero basis in fact. You just cannot stop blaming others and admit that sometimes, even when ALL the right things are being done, men have to be responsible for accepting the help offered. Yes, men’s services are scarcer than women’s. But sometimes that’s because they’re not using them. For whatever reasons. But you have to stop blaming everyone else, all the time. You’re not helping. Not the people try… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 10:43 PM |
| 2 | Domestic ViolenceI know my little organization tries, but it’s a huge, systematic, deeply-rooted issue that’s going to take more than a few ads from a local shelter, ya know? Which sucks, because it’s a vicious cycle. No one uses the services because there’s no services because no one uses the services… At least in large urban centers there may be enough use to kick-start some acceptance and see some success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 10:07 PM |
| 6 | Domestic ViolenceI don’t agree. Men not showing up absolutely 100% IS an indication of demand. The need may be there. I’m not saying DV on men doesn’t exist. But NO ONE gets to complain we don’t offer services when we do… for two whole years… and no one even walks through the door. It’s also not lack of reach. We have 9k residents. We have our own local radio station & newspaper, both stupidly involved in community affairs. You’d have to be blind, deaf & dumb not to know we had shelters and DV programs for both … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:56 PM |
| 2 | Domestic ViolenceI wouldn’t know since I’m not a man experiencing DV and it would be highly inappropriate for me to be in their intake session or therapy. I DO know it was a program developed by men who’d experienced DV with male therapists and 95% male staff (just like how women’s DV a enters only have women staff to aid in comfort). It was widely known that it was developed and run by male staff & volunteers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:45 PM |
| 4 | Domestic ViolenceNo one even came in to find out!!!!! I can’t seem to get this through your head. It was a service for men. Designed BY MEN who’d experienced DV. Funded privately & through government grants (grants, not programs). Advertised TO men who experienced DV or thought they may be in an abusive relationship. Counseling was offered but it wasn’t mandatory. So honestly, miss me with this “it’s everyone else’s fault”. If we do nothing, it’s our fault for not providing support to men. If we try to do anythi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:37 PM |
| 3 | Domestic ViolenceThey fought for funding and stayed open for TWO YEARS. The men’s homeless shelter remains open because it gets used. The women’s shelter & DV center is still open & funded because it IS used. Would you continue to pay thousands of dollars a month for something no one uses? For literally years? When other services that also support men go without? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:28 PM |
| 4 | Domestic ViolenceThen why TF should we try to continue funding it? They did everything they could. Stayed open for TWO YEARS. Advertised discreetly. Worked with local organizations including EMTs, 1st responders, doctors & therapists. You’re saying we shouldn’t bother, but if we don’t bother, it’s our fault for not having these services & resources available for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:25 PM |
| 4 | Domestic ViolenceWe’re a pretty small community. Not large enough to have dedicated shelters for DV, so both men’s and women’s are both homeless/DV. Same building & admin but different housing rooms and counselors. We’re lucky to be able to support both a men’s & women’s (completely separate buildings/organizations) shelters at all. They’re offered as an option by the local police, hospital and clinic. They are in the local media a couple times a year speaking about what they do (they just did an awareness campa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:22 PM |
| 3 | Domestic ViolenceAs I said to someone else blaming the organization, How do you blame a counselor that hasn’t had a chance to even speak to someone? They’re offered as an option by the local police, hospital and clinic. They are in the local media a couple times a year speaking about what they do (they just did an awareness campaign/fundraiser called The Coldest Night of the Year for homelessness). Why is it always someone else’s fault? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:14 PM |
| 4 | Domestic ViolenceWTF? How do you blame a counselor that hasn’t had a chance to even speak to someone? They’re offered as an option by the local police, hospital and clinic. They are in the local media a couple times a year speaking about what they do (they just did an awareness campaign/fundraiser called The Coldest Night of the Year for homelessness). Why is it always someone else’s fault? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:12 PM |
| 30 | Domestic ViolenceMy small town has a shelter for men (specifically) and had a “wing” & a councilor for DV. That was shut down as men weren’t coming in for counseling, resources or to stay. I’m not( saying they don’t experience DV here, but they can’t be *made to take advantage of programs & resources, and we can’t afford to have rooms sitting empty and staff doing nothing, so I don’t know what the answer is here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 10:13 AM |
| 2 | Are women jealous of guys dating younger women, or are they perhaps legitimately concerned for the women?Asked & answered Go argue with yourself elsewhere if you’re not going to address statements I’ve actually made. I don’t have to indulge you with a discussion where you ad hominem everything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 06:33 AM |
| 2 | Are women jealous of guys dating younger women, or are they perhaps legitimately concerned for the women?Continue to argue with yourself since you’re not addressing anything I’ve said. Whether that’s just performative outrage, rage-baiting or poor reading comprehension, I choose not to indulge you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 06:31 AM |
| 5 | Are women jealous of guys dating younger women, or are they perhaps legitimately concerned for the women?You’re not arguing in good faith since I never said they can’t make their own choices. I’ve made it pretty clear I just don’t think those are always great choices and anyone who exclusively dates someone decades younger than themselves, especially a teenager to mid-20s, is problematic. So if you’re that person and feel I’m judging you… 🤷♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 02:56 AM |
| 1 | Are women jealous of guys dating younger women, or are they perhaps legitimately concerned for the women?Way to go, ignoring my point about the ranges of the age gap relationship. There is evidence for & against the brain maturing at 25 and I was vastly simplifying the issue. As this article explains, “There’s consensus among neuroscientists that brain development continues into the 20s, but there’s far from any consensus about any specific age that defines the boundary between adolescence and adulthood.” I agree. And again, as this article also confirms, that doesn’t mean there isn’t a difference … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 02:54 AM |
| 8 | Are women jealous of guys dating younger women, or are they perhaps legitimately concerned for the women?This isn’t about women making decisions for themselves. Its not even about women - I didn’t specify any difference whether it was the man or woman being younger/older. it’s about equality in maturity, knowledge & power between partners no matter what gender they are. That’s why there are Romeo & Juliet laws and why the age gap disparity is so concerning when it’s people under 25 when the brain hasn’t finished maturing and people well past that. Your specious question is in the same vein as “age … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 02:00 AM |
| 34 | Are women jealous of guys dating younger women, or are they perhaps legitimately concerned for the women?I do realize many on this sub do seem to think women expire at 23ish (but consistently hit on 30+ yo because they can’t tell anyway) but I had to answer honestly. I see this question come up a lot in relation to people like Leonardo DiCaprio who’s 50+ & breaks up with every GF by the time they’re 25. That behavior is fcuking concerning & jealously has absolutely nothing to do with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 06:52 PM |
| 42 | Are women jealous of guys dating younger women, or are they perhaps legitimately concerned for the women?I was 18 dating a 27yo. Married at 20. Divorced at 27. Every age gap relationship where the younger person is under 25yo is concerning to me after what I experienced and have seen with other similar age gap relationships of friends. No jealousy whatsoever. I prefer older men even now, but when there’s an experience/maturity/power imbalance at the age where someone is just figuring out who they are, it’s highly problematic and has genuine, documented issues. So, 45yo dating a 30yo? Not my busines… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 06:45 PM |
| 6 | Wanting men to communicate their needs / open up / be 'vulnerable' OR stop putting women in the position of being 'emotional servants'? Which is it?Again, I’m not the one saying “all men”. You keep trying to put words in my mouth. I absolutely do not believe all men are like that, not even all men on this sub. But if you’re going to try to tell me that a lot of men on this (& similar) subs aren’t? Yeah, ok. And I’m not the one saying men hound women for emotional support. YOU said I’m saying that. I said there’s a difference between offering emotional support and being treated as a therapist. Where did I say all men do that?? And then going… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 11:04 PM |
| 4 | Wanting men to communicate their needs / open up / be 'vulnerable' OR stop putting women in the position of being 'emotional servants'? Which is it?I responded to a question posed. This was based on MY response to a question based on MY experience and was presented as such. You ignored what I actually said and made assumptions based on more than what I had referenced. I corrected your assumptions. At what point did I say anyone couldn’t discuss how they navigate their emotions within their relationships? If you just want to play victim and assign actions to me (surrogate mother, coach him, fix him, etc), have at it. But don’t get all shocke… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 10:46 PM |
| 3 | Wanting men to communicate their needs / open up / be 'vulnerable' OR stop putting women in the position of being 'emotional servants'? Which is it?This sub and others like it. Your comment being what prompted this specific response. The only time I’ve come close to experiencing this behavior IRL, my BF couldn’t get past a particular issues and after a few weeks, realized venting wasn’t helping and empathy wasn’t enough. He got therapy, got past the issue. And was welcome to vent or let his feeling show about anything he needed to express. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 10:36 PM |
| 5 | Wanting men to communicate their needs / open up / be 'vulnerable' OR stop putting women in the position of being 'emotional servants'? Which is it?Did you miss the point where I said “at some point, if it’s the same issue/complaint and ‘venting’ isn’t working”? Here I am, a real life women, saying I agree venting and empathy is important but if that’s not enough, then it’s time for therapy, for you to spend 3 paragraphs telling me I’m doing it wrong when that’s exactly what I said I was doing. Where did I say I was being a surrogate mother or coach him/fix him, etc? Where did I even insinuate I was doing anything other than listening to hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 10:25 PM |
| 9 | Wanting men to communicate their needs / open up / be 'vulnerable' OR stop putting women in the position of being 'emotional servants'? Which is it?There’s a difference between a man telling me (whilst in a relationship or friendship) that he’s having a bad day. Or a tough time with a particular subject. Etc. And wants to vent. Or be comforted. Or experience empathy. As opposed to using me as therapist that I am not qualified to provide. As some point, if it’s the same issue/complaint and “venting” isn’t working, therapy is required. And that goes for anyone in a relationship, male or female. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 08:38 PM |
| 4 | What is the Your Ranking of What's Important in a Relationship?A huge amount of this study concludes hypotheses were unsupported and/or negligible. And was based on speed dating and also admitted it did not weigh how the desire for long term relationships may impact the results obtained. And as “want looks, personality then wealth” are being listed as preferences, again it is noted this was for initial interaction and in context of speed dating selection. Provide more of these “countless studies showing what women value most in the partner” that prove women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 08:30 PM |
| 2 | Being in a position where you can pursue women is a privilegeHell, I need a little social lubricant to be able to talk to men… or anyone really… as a woman 😂. I’m a massive introvert. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 08:12 PM |
| 1 | What is the Your Ranking of What's Important in a Relationship?Please cite these scientific studies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 07:44 PM |
| 4 | Being in a position where you can pursue women is a privilegeThis day & age, we always have someone coming out to the club who doesn’t or isn’t going to drink as DD. Doesn’t stop them from dancing & interacting with people. And I actually like seeing a sober guy at a bar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 07:39 PM |
| 1 | The recent trend of women using "therapeutic language" to insult and stigmatize menBelieve it or not, a lot of women really don’t want to think the worst of all men. It’s just a very vocal segment of men make it SO hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 08:59 PM |
| 2 | The recent trend of women using "therapeutic language" to insult and stigmatize menIf someone is like potentially dangerous creepy, hell yes I’ll call him a creep. Or worse. But if it’s someone who just stares a little too long, or only talks to my chest or makes vaguely inappropriate comments, I’ll say they make me uncomfortable. Because what if it’s not on purpose? Someone is ND, has sight issues, etc? There’s varying degrees of uncomfortable-to-creep and I try to be as fair as I can be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 08:55 PM |
| 0 | The recent trend of women using "therapeutic language" to insult and stigmatize menBecause if I’m calling someone a creep or saying they make me uncomfortable, it’s because something caused it to be? And I understood your comment to mean it’s condescending to say someone makes me uncomfortable and that it’s “coddling”. My apologies if I misunderstood your comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 08:46 PM |
| -2 | The recent trend of women using "therapeutic language" to insult and stigmatize menIt’s not “coddling”. It’s being honest while trying not to be a jerk about it. If someone actually prefers I outright call them a creep (putting the “fault” on him) instead of saying his presence makes me uncomfortable (making a “me” problem), then fine. I’ll go back to calling men creeps. Because I certainly won’t be stopping to respectfully ask the guy who just called me a sexist slur whether he prefers I call him a creep or take responsibility for my own reaction to his creepiness | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 08:42 PM |
| -1 | The recent trend of women using "therapeutic language" to insult and stigmatize menI just want to make sure I absolutely under this before coming to an opinion. Are you saying you’d PREFER I call you a creep instead of saying your presence makes me uncomfortable?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 08:11 PM |
| 4 | Do you think men bring the more, same, or less to the table as they did in the past?1000% this Women’s needs changed - “wants” if you prefer that word. We don’t need a man to buy a house, open a bank account, have a Reddit cards, etc. We have the ability to do that ourselves now. But a lot of men are still hyper focused on the financial provision/protection aspect and refuse to listen when women are saying we can do that ourselves now. But we’d love someone to provide companionship, respect, friendship, physical intimacy and added joy to our lives. So how about you bring some o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 03:30 AM |
| 3 | What exactly is the thesis of The Red Pill?I agree. And would love to see OP’s take on BP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/23 03:41 AM |
| – | Am I wrong for not wanting to financially support an unambitious man?All of this. INFO please | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/23 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it.And there it is. The refusal to take no for an answer and leave a woman alone even when she says it point blank. First, I can be passionate about an issue but not care that you think I’m a bitch. With your opinions, that’s a badge of honor for me. Because men like you are the problem. And I will continue telling women it’s ok for them to speak up and call out garbage takes like this. Because trust me little dude, you’re approaching women that are actively creeped out or annoyed by you. I guarant… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/23 02:39 AM |
| 1 | Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it.Luckily, as a woman, I truly don’t care that a random man whom I disagree with on social media thinks I’m a bitch. It usually says more about him than me. And for the last time (really, the last), TIME & PLACE. I didn’t say all women mind being approached in ALL situations. I was literally spelling out actions women will take to avoid interaction at certain times and you’re telling me that I’m lying (or wrong?) about my own experiences with dealing with dozens of women and seeing dozens, if not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/23 02:21 AM |
| 2 | Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it.GF all the way O with that nonsense. I’m allowed to grocery shop, get a coffee, shop for a book, wait for a bus or just GENERALLY EXIST IN PUBLIC without being there for men’s pleasure/entertainment. Seriously, WTF is wrong with you? Take your Handmaid’s Tale shit somewhere else. If your goal was to spout the most incel, misogynistic garbage comment I’ve heard this week to “own the libs” and piss me off, you win. If you genuinely believe the drivel you’re typing, you need to be on a watch list. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/23 01:07 AM |
| 2 | Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it.I’m not sure I follow your meaning? If I’m even existing in public, I’m fair game to be hit on? Please tell me I’m misunderstanding | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/23 12:57 AM |
| 2 | Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it.Then perhaps your wife is the “exception that proves the rule” but unless you can pull stats that show the majority of women don’t dislike being approached when reading/wearing headphones, you’re putting your one personal experience against hundreds of other women and articles saying otherwise. You didn’t just claim your wife had a positive reaction, you claimed you had “positive results, more neutral and few negative”. I’ve said I don’t believe you. So start showing me the articles and comments… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/23 12:46 AM |
| 2 | Why should men commit? What makes being my wife better than being my GFWhich is why men should get snipped or ensure multiple methods of birth control is used or they stay celibate. That’s what they tell women 🤷♀️ How are you claiming safe haven laws are infrequent because of abortions? Save haven doesn’t cost money. Abortions do. & if aborted, it’s still not costing men money. So, I’m missing your point. You’re saying if a woman can decide not to have a child, a man should get to decide if he’s going to contribute to what he assisted in creating? Those are not th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/23 12:42 AM |
| 2 | Why should men commit? What makes being my wife better than being my GFBut then there’s NO BABY TO SUPPORT And a man can sue for custody. Even if, in the exceptionally rare case, a man didn’t know a woman was pregnant with his child and she gives it up, he can get the child back. But you tell me how many women are surrendering babies if there’s a man in the picture who wants the baby and is capable of raising/supporting it? Because when it does, it makes headline news and millions of dollars in lawsuits https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/dad-files-130m-lawsuit-af… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/23 12:20 AM |
| 6 | Why should men commit? What makes being my wife better than being my GFIf there’s no baby, then the men aren’t paying child support. So if she had an abortion or he agreed to adoption, he’s just as much “off the hook” as he is. If there is a child, you show me where in developed countries women are not partially responsible for “raising” the baby - whether it be physically or financially. Are you this new or just trying to start an argument, unsupported by actual reality? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/23 12:05 AM |
| 7 | Why should men commit? What makes being my wife better than being my GFAbsolutely not. If someone had a hand in making a baby, that person should have to have a hand in supporting that baby. If they don’t want to raise it, then at least pay for it. Like I said, women who give fathers custody are required to pay support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 11:54 PM |
| 1 | If the majority of men get no matches on dating apps, how do the majority of couples meet using apps, and how to the majority of people still get married?We agree then. And as to Pedro Pascal? Women who adore him love him because he’s funny, cute, charming, sweet, fiercely loyal & protective to his sister and is “cuddly” without looking like a rehydrated raisin lol. He got noticed due to his lovable roles in the Mandalorian and The Last of Us (see, women do watch Star Wars and video game related stuff) but then we started seeing him in interviews & being himself (not just the protective & sensitive character) and we learned he’s basically been pl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 10:42 PM |
| 1 | If the majority of men get no matches on dating apps, how do the majority of couples meet using apps, and how to the majority of people still get married?I used the first two model/movie stars that popped into my head. I’m not that up to date on pop culture. But for him to insist yeah they are mid and old too… without the qualifiers you used - mid to your taste, too old for you… and to imply he can date all these women who are younger & hotter than two women widely recognized as supremely attractive - it’s just pathetic bravado. And when women say what you said, that we think other types of men are better looking than the latest pop/movie star se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 10:11 PM |
| 2 | Women of reddit. What is your opinion on women making more of the first moves?I often did it, but sometimes felt a little more insecure about it. But that’s my issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 07:09 PM |
| – | Why should men commit? What makes being my wife better than being my GFChild support payments happen whether or not you got married, you soggy pop tart. And if 90% of women are getting child support, it’s because 90% of women are performing the child raising. Men who are taking the majority of child rearing (including housing & costs) are often awarded child support themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it.I literally don’t believe you. Anecdotes ≠ proof, but I have to know or see a single women who has disagreed with this. Of course, there’s always the “exception that proves the rule” but when every single women you know says otherwise, a statement like yours is just yet another man telling us we’re lying about our own experience and preferences. If your approach was to bloody successful, women wouldn’t be saying don’t do it. Men wouldn’t still be asking if they should/shouldn’t be doing it. You’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it.JFC :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 02:36 PM |
| 6 | Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it.I’m going to post this one last time, since last time I was told I was lying - that all women are lying. TIME & PLACE If I’m at a place not commonly considered a “meeting” space and I’m giving “leave me alone” signals (like not looking at anyone directly, reading a book, wearing headphones), I don’t care what you look like. Leave me alone. Sure it might be vaguely flattering if an absolute drop-dead gorgeous guy approaches me, but that doesn’t mean I welcome it. Even if it’s a gorgeous guy appro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 01:13 PM |
| 1 | Women. How often do you initiate sex with your man?It was 50/50 with the difference being I was more the planner & he was more spontaneous. Neither of us was locking into routine, but if there’s a generalization to be made,that’s probably it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 04:20 AM |
| 2 | Is it over for autistic or socially inept guys, or can they still do something about it? What are the most effective ways they can improve their social skills and personality?Thanks for the recommendation. It’s not the first time I’ve hear Baldur’s Gate mentioned, so I guess I’ll have to look into it :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 12:51 AM |
| 2 | Is it over for autistic or socially inept guys, or can they still do something about it? What are the most effective ways they can improve their social skills and personality?I’m in a small, conservative town in a relatively remote area. There’s no game shops, and definitely no leagues playing here. Closest ones would be 3 hours away. It probably helps that my city friends have game shops that have tournament nights with beverages and meet & greets and “events” to get people to come in and mingle. They’re quite popular. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 12:38 AM |
| 2 | Is it over for autistic or socially inept guys, or can they still do something about it? What are the most effective ways they can improve their social skills and personality?And I’ve always wanted to get into D&D but felt I missed my chance and no one wants to play with complete newbie I’d they’re over the age of 30 🤣 I know young women who go to game stores during tournaments to look for guys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 12:33 AM |
| 5 | Is it over for autistic or socially inept guys, or can they still do something about it? What are the most effective ways they can improve their social skills and personality?I was at a laser-tag newbie night (I’d never played) and there were a people explaining rules, strategies, etc. before we signed up to play. One guy was super funny and smart about where best to hide to get the best “sucker shots” and made what looked really intimidating look like a lot of fun. So after our play, I went to speak to him and tell him how much his instruction really helped me get into it and enjoy it and I was shocked for a moment because he would barely look at me and spoke really… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 11:46 PM |
| 2 | What incentive someone who belongs to a negatively stereotyped group like men has to behave well or he's still going to be judged by the stereotype?My bad. Or iPad’s app bad. Whichever :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 11:30 PM |
| 5 | If the majority of men get no matches on dating apps, how do the majority of couples meet using apps, and how to the majority of people still get married?Yup. I pointed out the huge numbers of men on rateme subs calling people like Margot Robbie & Gal Gadot “mid” and some guy told me not only were they mid, but he could walk out his door and see dozens of better looking women who were 18-21 instead of in their 30s. My point, my dude, is that you don’t have a shot with either group so you calling MR/GG mid when you’re, at best average in every way, is a neon sign of coping mechanism & low self esteem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 11:17 PM |
| 2 | What incentive someone who belongs to a negatively stereotyped group like men has to behave well or he's still going to be judged by the stereotype?😂 now kiss Thanks for that giggle And you could be right - the display order on my app isn’t always correct/clear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 11:13 PM |
| 2 | Women get away with far more awkward and shitty behavior than menIt’s not the getting rejected, it’s how getting rejected is handled. If someone asks me out, and I politely decline (for whatever reason) and the response is “ok, just thought I’d ask” and then normal conversation/interaction, I wouldn’t be avoidant. But if the reaction is to badger me, disrespect my answer, bash me to others for saying no, etc., damned right I’m avoiding them going forward. That doesn’t change if you reverse the sexes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 10:39 PM |
| 2 | What incentive someone who belongs to a negatively stereotyped group like men has to behave well or he's still going to be judged by the stereotype?I’m responding to a question asked of strangers on the internet. I didn’t seek someone out to insult them for no reason. And if it’s “being mean” to point out that being selfish and and an AH unless you personally receive a benefit call me mean 🤷♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 10:36 PM |
| 11 | What incentive someone who belongs to a negatively stereotyped group like men has to behave well or he's still going to be judged by the stereotype?If being a decent human being is a profit/loss statement to you, please stay away from polite society. Most of us are just trying to be decent people to others and get along in this world, but you taking “pay to play” so far as to use it for basic decency is just disturbing. It doesn’t cost me a damn cent, nor any great mental effort to not be a selfish AH but it’s a tiny effort I’m willing to make to fit into society. It’s the cost of getting to interact with other people and not have them thin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 08:06 PM |
| 6 | What incentive someone who belongs to a negatively stereotyped group like men has to behave well or he's still going to be judged by the stereotype?Selfish, self-centered questions & mindsets like this is why so many men have to deal with negative stereotypes. You’re literally saying if it’s not beneficial to you personally, or you’re not getting “rewarded” you don’t see the point to being a basically decent person. If you think “being a violent sex obsessed cheating pig” is justified because some people have this negative stereotype and you don’t personally get “rewarded” for not being one, you’re a very large part of the problem. Like, a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 08:02 PM |
| 10 | What incentive someone who belongs to a negatively stereotyped group like men has to behave well or he's still going to be judged by the stereotype?So they’re happier alienating the people who DO appreciate them not being a selfish prick because it’s too much effort if not everyone is going to love you & “reward” you?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 07:57 PM |
| 9 | What incentive someone who belongs to a negatively stereotyped group like men has to behave well or he's still going to be judged by the stereotype?WTF does it cost you to not act like a misogynistic AH? Really? I want to know. I’m not asking you to buy me things, I’m asking you not to call me a foid, gold digger, liar, etc. That’s pro social behavior. What “selfish” behavior is it you want to indulge in if it doesn’t benefit you personally to not do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 07:53 PM |
| 0 | Why is Dating Supposed to be a Meritocracy?It’s not just my one anecdote. Hundreds of women are saying it out loud and you are all saying “nope, you’re all lying about your standards because I can’t get a date” IGNORING the fact your don’t meet the qualifications we DO say we have. A majority of us don’t f’ing care if you’re under 6’. YOU do. Or aren’t making $100k a year. I personally know a single woman who’s holding out for a mythical “6/6/6”. Not one. Perhaps a small, vocal set of women do. But you’d want to date them anyway?? A majo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 06:42 PM |
| 6 | Women hate socially awkward and/or quiet males?How many women? Out of how many out there? You’re saying “all women” and we’re saying it’s not. Everyone has preferences but that’s still not every women who hate shy guys. You can believe me or not, but you’re on a decisive site where pretty much everything should be taken with a grain of salt but you’re accepting those few women like they speak for us ALL. So they’re NOT proving you right that all women hate shy guys. They’re saying that they (the individual speaking) hates a shy guy. But if y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 07:28 AM |
| 8 | Women hate socially awkward and/or quiet males?Sincere question. How many women have said “I can’t stand you because you’re so shy”? How many women have said “I hate that guy because he’s shy”? Your basing this “all women literally hate us” thing on a few women who said they hate it when a guy is shy/quiet. So what? I hate it when a guy is really loud & showy. Doesn’t mean I don’t give individuals a chance. Maybe he was loud & showy at that party because he’d had a few & was with a louder/rowdier crowd. Maybe he can have quieter moments. I d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 07:22 AM |
| 3 | Female women, do you also have those "They only go for jerks" thoughts?I definitely saw it when I was younger. HS & college guys often admitted they didn’t even like some the girls they dated but they were hot & put out. Even now I do know a guy or two that admits he doesn’t care much about personality unless he’s looking for serious/long term relationships. So short term/casual (not ONS), they’ll still date someone they admit they wouldn’t live with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 05:48 AM |
| 5 | There’s a sudden surge of openly anti-male content on tiktok/twitter/threads, etc. What does this mean for the future of gender relations?“The victims of most violent crime are also men” Yes. By other men You’re missing the point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 05:33 AM |
| -1 | Why is Dating Supposed to be a Meritocracy?And there’s the comment that proves men don’t want to hear from real women and that we’re all lying. There’s hundreds of women saying the same thing, telling the same stories, but it’s never as real as your echo chamber. I never claimed it to be more than my story. YOU’RE the one claiming “all women”. GTFO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 04:57 AM |
| 3 | Does men need to pay the bill?Again, it’s how it’s presented. If it’s “I’m a man”, I’m not comfortable. If it’s “I was raised that way and you can pay next time” it shows a willingness to compromise | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 04:16 AM |
| 3 | Does men need to pay the bill?But a) it feeds the stereotype and I’m not convinced he’s not one who insists women just date for free food and b) I don’t like the entitlement it sets up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 04:14 AM |
| 2 | Does men need to pay the bill?So how does a woman square that with the same “alpha male” who goes on line and says women just date for free food? Either we’re rejecting their masculinity (which has nothing to do with who pays for dinner) by offering to split, especially since we don’t want to feel beholden to those same guys who also complain I’d they don’t get sex because “I paid for dinner!” Or we we let them pay and we’re gold diggers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 04:08 AM |
| 3 | Does men need to pay the bill?Hell, I even had a guy say “I’d really rather pay. I was raised to pay for at least the first date”. I said ok as long as I could pay for the next. And that was fine for us both. But “because I’m a man”? No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 04:06 AM |
| 0 | Why is Dating Supposed to be a Meritocracy?This is the BS belief that keep men in the manosphere & out of good relationships. I want to tell you a story. I held a party. A few people were discussing dating. One guy insisted women only want “chads” or guys who are super successful/rich. He pointed to a girl across the room. Anne. A 9 by anyone’s standards. Modeled in college, smart but kind, funny, witty, down to earth, sexy but still the girl next door who goes snowmobiling & ice fishing. He said she rwould be with someone over 6’, makin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Double standards are valid since... men sleep with women they would never date and women sleep with men they can never date.That’s a generic screen grab. Where’s the citation? Or are you actually using google as a citation, not to source a citation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Double standards are valid since... men sleep with women they would never date and women sleep with men they can never date.How about you show me your source for using this? Other people here argued with you too, so it’s not just me. And after doing a search for mathematical terms and symbols for “not equal to”, != is NOT one of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 02:36 AM |
| 0 | Double standards are valid since... men sleep with women they would never date and women sleep with men they can never date.I have literally never seen seen nor heard of != meaning not equal to. ≠ or sometimes <> means not equal to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 02:33 AM |
| 1 | Double standards are valid since... men sleep with women they would never date and women sleep with men they can never date.But when men go out and have casual sex with someone with no prospects of a relationship, it’s different? Or are you saying men never have sex with anyone who wouldn’t immediately want a relationship with him? So you’re slut-shaming women who won’t sleep with you, but admiring POS men who sleep around with no plans to develop a relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 02:31 AM |
| -1 | Double standards are valid since... men sleep with women they would never date and women sleep with men they can never date.You said hottest guy = best sex. I disagreed. Ummm… they’re opposites | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 02:29 AM |
| 2 | Double standards are valid since... men sleep with women they would never date and women sleep with men they can never date.Any man who says that is outing himself that women don’t really enjoy sex with him. How TF would he know she’s not out there enjoying sex for sex sake with other men who ring her bell? Because yeah, women who can apparently have sex whenever they want but “can’t” get a relationship would be out sleeping with men because…? I dunno… because they like it? “Women don’t really enjoy sex” is such a hilarious self-own for every man who says this, and even more pathetically for any man who believes it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 02:28 AM |
| 1 | Double standards are valid since... men sleep with women they would never date and women sleep with men they can never date.Absolutely untrue. Many of the best looking and/or most well endowed men have never had to develop skills. In or out of the bedroom. They get hookups and a lot of women, but those women don’t hang around or look at him as long term material no matter how hot he is because he’s typically casually vain and selfish. Average looking guys have incentive to learn how to use what they’ve got. I’ve had so many friends get excited they’re going to score with the hottie (women like casual sex too) and the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 02:24 AM |
| 1 | Women claiming men should "hold other men accountable" just want to deny their own responsibilyWhich is why we want all guys to be the “nice guys”. For real. Not Nice Guy™️. That’s the whole point about men holding men accountable. That’s how racist and bigoted statements became socially unacceptable. It takes time and effort. And what I’m getting from a lot of comments is that men don’t feel the need to make the effort. They just don’t care. It’s more important not to rock the boat, fit in with the cool kids, whatever. How is it men can say “women bash men all the time and other women th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 02:12 AM |
| 3 | Women claiming men should "hold other men accountable" just want to deny their own responsibilyIt’s not harmless. It perpetuates the feeling that women are not to be taken seriously or respected. I don’t remain friendly with women who trash talk men as a whole. I don’t remain friendly with racists or bigots. As for “other people’s relationships” it’s more about how you interact with the cheater. Nudge nudge, wink wink and atta boy playa? ‘Cause that’s enabling the same old issues. Just like the “locker room talk” you claim is harmless. Even when you have studies and women telling you it’s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 01:50 AM |
| 2 | Women claiming men should "hold other men accountable" just want to deny their own responsibilyIf I didn’t care about men in general and this insidious and misguided slide into delusional incel-adjacent mindsets, I wouldn’t be here. But you’re right about not caring about your success, as you’ve made it clear you value the misogynist jackass because he has surface level “success” more than developing real relationships with women. So any care I had for you would be wasted. Go continue to waste your time sucking up to the guy whose success you are not benefiting from and leave me alone. Un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Women claiming men should "hold other men accountable" just want to deny their own responsibilyPlease tell me where I blame all men? I’m dissing a certain type of man. All day, every day. I never said that was all men. And you could have continued “working in that mission” and still respected my request that you leave me alone. But I called it right. You having the last word or arguing with me is more important than respecting my request. Which goes to affirm you “don’t care about being b a supposed “ally’ of women”. Yeah, that’s obvious. So, last time. Are you going to take no for an ans… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 05:59 PM |
| 2 | Women claiming men should "hold other men accountable" just want to deny their own responsibilyI don’t know WTF “Emily” is, but if they want a real relationship with a real women, they can continue to suck up to the misogynist jerk and see if their fortunes improve. But seeing as so many of them are on here saying they can’t get a girlfriend, let me assure you that a lot of women share info and if you’re known to be a sycophantic jerk, your chances at dating do NOT improve just because you hang out with someone who gets laid a lot. I’ll say this one last time, and to be honest, I no longe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 05:55 PM |
| 0 | Women claiming men should "hold other men accountable" just want to deny their own responsibilyYes, and? Again, women are not a monolith. Not all women are allies. That’s not what we were discussing. I’m also not friends with women racists or bigots. What’s your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Women claiming men should "hold other men accountable" just want to deny their own responsibilyMen say they want women to like/trust/date them? Well, this is part of it. I trust someone who’s an ally. Who doesn’t talk shit behind my back but insist he’s a “nice guy”. And yeah, if being friends with racists & bigots is important to you, the. No, we cannot be friends. Pretty simple really. I’m also not friends with women who laugh at racist jokes or body shame men OR women 🤷♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 05:19 PM |
| 3 | Women claiming men should "hold other men accountable" just want to deny their own responsibilyAnd there it is. “Waaaahhhhh. It’s all women’s fault”. All we asked for was for men to be an ally & speak up, but when you insist it’s not worth the effort (dog for it you have to try more than once) and it’s pointed out if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem, it’s all women’s fault. You’re not a friend. You’re not an ally. You’re an apologist who says “whelp! I tried nothing, so nothing will work!” So you’re dismissed. Or am I going to have to block you, because you won’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 05:17 PM |
| 4 | Women claiming men should "hold other men accountable" just want to deny their own responsibily“There is no more neutrality in the world. You either have to be part of the solution, or you're going to be part of the problem.” - Eldridge Cleaver | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 04:37 PM |
| 3 | Women claiming men should "hold other men accountable" just want to deny their own responsibilyThe post seemed to have the wrong interpretation of what women mean by “men holding men accountable” so I detailed what most women mean by that. So you’re saying if a guy’s getting laid but is a trash talking AH who degrades women in front of you, it’s not worth your time to say that’s not cool? May not change his attitude, but it certainly would say something about you. And if you’re helping cover for, or patting someone on the back for cheating, that’s just rewarding bad behavior. Which is wha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 03:20 PM |
| 3 | Women claiming men should "hold other men accountable" just want to deny their own responsibilyWhen women say they want men to hold other men accountable, it’s: Don’t condone “locker room talk”. Sexist misogyny flourishes when other men find it funny and don’t speak out against it. Realize “the bro code” of things like covering for someone cheating or being abusive is wrong. It’s cowardly. You don’t want to be honorable because a man won’t like you? Weak & pathetic. Most women aren’t asking men to physically intervene in dangerous altercations - at least call the police or someone who can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 02:29 PM |
| 4 | Why do (some) men believe women cheating is “worse”?Where was the question of who initiates divorces?? That’s not part of the discussion. Nor does it say the those 80% of women initiating divorces are doing so solely due to infidelity. You made your fortune betting in the data. That women cheating is worse than men cheating?? Or betting on the “data” that 80% of divorces are initiated by women? Which, again, has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. And yet, you STILL did not cite ANY actual data anyway. Go away. Your arguments are irrelevan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 01:19 PM |
| 2 | Why do (some) men believe women cheating is “worse”?What data? If you’re going to claim “the data doesn’t support” what I’m saying, at least cite the data! And I asked 2 questions. Not statements. I made one statement. Show me the “data” that men & women who cheat don’t share lack of loyalt & honour & a sense of missing something from their relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 01:06 PM |
| 2 | Why do (some) men believe women cheating is “worse”?This is why “simplified generalization” is a sucky explanation. So if a woman cheats when her partner is away on business for a while, or in the military and away die weeks/months, it’s never because she just wants an itch scratched? And all the men who have become successful/made some money “stay” after cheating and never trade in their wives for the younger, hotter “trophy wife”? Men and women cheat for basically the same reason. Lack of honour, lack of loyalty and feeling they’re missing some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 11:04 AM |
| 5 | Do women view money as symbolic of helping people or making people happy by doing things for others that they want?I want a man who’s capable of providing for himself and meeting my part way for entertainment, etc. If I want to spoil myself with expensive things, that’s my bill to pay. As long as his gifts are thoughtful and compliments genuine, and as long as he “does an honest day’s work”, I don’t care how much he makes. I dated a guy who drove a bus to pay the bills but was learning blacksmithing. He made me a polished metal rose. Cost nothing but (a lot of) time & talent and is one of the best gifts I’ve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 08:14 AM |
| 2 | You only think women’s standards are unrealistic because you view them as a monolith.Tbh, outside of the stereotypical high maintenance “Stacy”, most don’t want a “Chad”. We want a real person, not some guy with the depth & personality of a cardboard cutout of Tom Cruise and the cocky ego to match lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 06:37 AM |
| 2 | You only think women’s standards are unrealistic because you view them as a monolith.Thank you. I’m truly touched. If not a little shocked after what I’ve been subjected to on these subs. I only started commenting on this types of subs when a good male friend of mine mentioned he wished he’d known a lot of what he knows now back when he first got on line. It was before Andrew Tate or “incel” became so mainstream, but he was subjected to the same stereotypes and misconceptions and it messed him up for a little bit. Until he started working in a new place & got a “fresh break” and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 06:26 AM |
| 2 | You only think women’s standards are unrealistic because you view them as a monolith.Then why do you say “it can lead men to believe you’re lying” if you’re also saying no one owes you/them explanations? Which is it? I have to justify my rejection of advances, OR I don’t ow them & men should accept that rejection is part of life and is no more a woman’s “fault” as it is some monolithic list of “man too short, man too poor” nonsense? You don’t have to reply, I’m just confused as to what men want. You don’t want a comprehensive list, yet you feel you (general you) are being lied t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 12:18 AM |
| 4 | You only think women’s standards are unrealistic because you view them as a monolith.By accusing women of turning down men who “meet all their requirements” (again, thinking women are a monolith and are always available for the asking) and then accusing me of omitting something that would get them rejected IS accusing me of lying & being dishonest. I can’t, nor will I, list every possible scenario where I might turn a guy down. But Maybe I just had a breakup. Maybe I’m moving out of town and don’t want to start anything. Maybe I’m dealing with some health issues that make dating… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 12:10 AM |
| 1 | There is no correct way of approaching women which cannot at some point be construed as annoying or inappropriateYour proving you have zero situation awareness. When I’m out on a “girl’s night”, we all dance with one another. We only talk to one another. We’re not making eye contact with guys. You could ask for clarification m instead you ask rhetorical “gotcha” questions because you just want to be right and blame everything on women. And I’d you know lots of guys who don’t get rejected for approaching sexually, good for you. Do what they do and continue to wonder why you don’t have success. I’m sure a) h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 12:06 AM |
| 6 | You only think women’s standards are unrealistic because you view them as a monolith.I’m omitting if they’re creeps who approach me with sexual comments right off the bat, I’m rejecting them. Or I’m not currently open to dating anyone. If a guy can’t take no for an answer and becomes entitled and sulky,that’s his problem, not mine, and not me lying about my standards. YOU’RE omitting the fact you’re proving our point by saying we’re lying. This is why women give up and tend to paint men with the same brush - here we are trying to have an honest conversation, only to be accused o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 12:02 AM |
| 1 | There is no correct way of approaching women which cannot at some point be construed as annoying or inappropriateMy VERY first comment on this thread, first line, says “time & place”. A cold approach is when no eye contact has been made and there is reasonable belief a person is not in that location to “meet people”. E.g. reading a book in a coffee shop. Wearing headphones. With a group of people that they are clearly only interacting with (girl’s night), etc. One can approach someone anywhere, but if you open with a sexual remark outside conventionally accepted “time & place”, expect to be rejected. Perha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 11:25 PM |
| 7 | You only think women’s standards are unrealistic because you view them as a monolith.Funny. I’m in real life, and I have those priorities. I’m in real life and didn’t date “chads”. The other women on this thread are also in real life. My friends are in real life and they share these values. I don’t have a single friend who “married rich” or a Chad. But they’re in long term, stable relationships with “average guys”. You’re PROVING what we’re saying about men on social media tell us we’re lying or wrong. I’m sorry YOU aren’t finding those women, but you’re blaming women on your la… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 11:07 PM |
| 11 | You only think women’s standards are unrealistic because you view them as a monolith.I want to try to be a resource for those that truly say they’re trying to understand and not slide into incel mindsets, but after being insulted, belittled, told I’m lying about my own preferences, told I’m virtue signaling, etc., I just don’t see me making a difference to anyone. Why TF would I spend time on sites like this if I weren’t trying to help someone? Trust me, I don’t have a desire to be belittled & insulted for funsies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 10:18 PM |
| 1 | There is no correct way of approaching women which cannot at some point be construed as annoying or inappropriateHow are they contradictory? I said I reject sexual comments (with my examples showing time/place), but that I engaged them at a suitable time/location | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 09:58 PM |
| 11 | You only think women’s standards are unrealistic because you view them as a monolith.Every time I’ve said anything like this, or implied most women have standards very similar to this, I’m told I’m lying, virtue signaling, etc. Im close to just not engaging at all because my voice as an actual woman is ignored and I’m told I’m lying so they can just continue to blame all women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 09:48 PM |
| -1 | There is no correct way of approaching women which cannot at some point be construed as annoying or inappropriateYes I have engaged with a guy who opened with a sexual comment. Once at a bar, when I offered to buy him a drink. Once at a “singles mingle” event. Neither time was I offended. One was what I’d consider out of my usual league and one was more “average”. I flirted with both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 09:39 PM |
| -1 | There is no correct way of approaching women which cannot at some point be construed as annoying or inappropriateI have absolutely engaged a guy who opened with a sexual comment. In a bar. When I offered to buy him a drink. Another time at a party advertised as a “single’s mingle” event. One was definitely what I’d consider out of my usual league. One was, I guess, average. I was not offended at either and flirted with both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 09:35 PM |
| 5 | There is no correct way of approaching women which cannot at some point be construed as annoying or inappropriateNO a I would not respond positively if a “hot dude” approached me out of the blue with a sexual comment. Deal with it. Bite me incel. I’m tired of idiots like you insisting you know me better than I know myself. This is why women don’t like or trust you. So since you have nothing of worth to contribute to the convo, bye boy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Women; what are the actual specific hardships you face in terms of the modern dating marketing place and society at large?I don’t treat people the way you do apparently, even when I’m being safe. No I don’t wear a bomb suit - over half of women aren’t assaulted by Muslims. Actually, over half of NA women aren’t targeted by terrorists at all (unless you’re counting white men as terrorists 🤷♀️) I also don’t cross the street to avoid black people. I don’t assume any of them are thugs. Only that every man has the POTENTIAL to be a “thug” or assaulter and that I should be aware of my surroundings and who is in them. Bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 05:09 PM |
| 5 | There is no correct way of approaching women which cannot at some point be construed as annoying or inappropriateJFC. I’m tired of saying it. It’s time & place. I don’t care if it’s Brad Pitt - cold-approach me to make a purely sexual comment (“smoking hot in that dress” meaning you’re only looking at me as a sexual object) and I think that person is just a fuckboi who doesn’t respect women and isn’t looking for a “connection” but just his own sexual gratification. as opposed to “I’ve never read that book you’re holding but I know of the author. Did you like it?” Being a neutral based question not referrin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 03:47 PM |
| 2 | Women; what are the actual specific hardships you face in terms of the modern dating marketing place and society at large?We’re talking about men assaulting women and the “precautions” women feel they have to take. I never once said men weren’t victims of violence (by a large majority from other men), so they too should be taking precautions. The other commenter was referring to women who falsely accuse. And I said yes, men should also protect themselves against that. All you want to do is parrot “not all men” and “men are victims too” and not add anything useful to the discussion actually happening. Your links are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 03:39 PM |
| 0 | Women; what are the actual specific hardships you face in terms of the modern dating marketing place and society at large?Linguistically, yes. Your point? But if anyone lives their lives by statistics and common occurrence, it’s a much bigger chance I’m getting assaulted by a man than a man is being falsely accused. So, everyone should act accordingly. If the first time(s) we met, you refused to be alone with me because you think I’m going to falsely accuse you of assault, that’s your right. I might feel slightly offended but that’s my problem. I know I’m not like that, so I’ll find someone who’s willing to get to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 04:32 AM |
| 3 | Women; what are the actual specific hardships you face in terms of the modern dating marketing place and society at large?Like many men who make this argument, you miss the point. It’s NOT “a predator in every man”. But it’s POTENTIALLY any man you meet. And you don’t immediately know. Sometimes you never know. I don’t think every piece of pork is poison, but I DO know I have a higher chance of food poisoning with pork than chocolate, so I’m going to be careful when cooking pork. Do I stop cooking pork? No. Do I think all pork is evil? No. But it’s just stupid to say “well, the last pork chop didn’t kill me, so I d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 03:27 AM |
| 4 | Women; what are the actual specific hardships you face in terms of the modern dating marketing place and society at large?Every time a guy suggests a coffee date as a first date (to test I’m not dating for dinner), every guy who asks my opinion of pre-nups (I’m in favour), every guy who openly says he doesn’t make a lot of money but he’s happy driving a city bus (or whatever) so see if I’m a snob… I have ZERO problems with that. I expect it. I welcome it. Just like once I’ve talked to a guy for a whole & we’ve been on a few dates, I feel comfortable he’s most likely not a misogynist (etc), I would expect that a guy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 03:02 AM |
| 1 | Besides physical unattractiveness what are the most unattractive qualities in a man?All the behaviours that fall under any of the incel/misogynist/toxic masculinity banners are deal breakers. I have dated a wide range of looks, incomes, hobbies, strengths & weaknesses, but if a man demeans women, talks down to people he “believes” are inferior, parrots PUA/alpha male BS, refuses to engage in meaningful conversation when there’s a difference of opinion, is racist or bigoted - I don’t even want to be friends. Much less date. And an immediate “tell” is the man, who being told this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 02:17 AM |
| 8 | Women; what are the actual specific hardships you face in terms of the modern dating marketing place and society at large?You don’t get it. All men are potential perpetrators. That’s the point. We don’t know which one is or isn’t. So the potential is there in every interaction. Just like not every woman will be a victim of violence but all of them have the potential to be. If I don’t know if the oven was ever on but know there’s a chance the dish in the oven is hot, I’m using an oven mitt every time. Once I know that dish isn’t hot, I don’t need the oven mitt. If a man isn’t an abusive AH, why so offended that wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 12:04 AM |
| 5 | What do men get for paying for the first date?If you’re that worried about gold diggers chasing you for what I’m sure is a significant bank account 🙄, ask her out for coffee, ice cream, museum, etc. If she’s dating for food, she’ll decline & you’ll be happy. If she accepts, I guess she’s passed your “test”. So what are you “getting” out of that date? Since you see dating as transactional? When I invite, I pay. If I’m invited for dinner, I offer to split, or pay for drinks/dessert. If it’s a movie, I offer to pay for all the snacks. Most wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 05:33 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t respect the average man?How many times did I refer to “women” and not just “I”? People communicate by sharing their experiences and those of their compatriots - in my case, I used my life as examples, said it’s views shared by most women while admitting that you may have unfortunately come into contact with some who do not think this way. I did my part by trying to show you examples of women who are NOT generally like what you describe. You don’t want to hear it. You sound like “Women are a monolith and no one is allow… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 05:02 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t respect the average man?I respect individual men until given indication not to. You just chose to take my examples in your own biased way. And I’m done with your insistence that I’m the one “misconstruing”. You’re either missing my point entirely and on purpose, or moving goalposts and twisting my words & putting words/concepts in my mouth. Since I never said women have a negative bias toward average men until proven otherwise, but told you the opposite and gave examples (not “developed bias” you ass) that you chose to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 04:33 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t respect the average man?Women keep trying to tell people they don’t think like this (at least, the majority, and I wouldn’t hang out with anyone who did) but the perception is still out there. It’s NOT me being “progressive”. So when a women tries to explain to you your perception isn’t universal and most women don’t disrespect “average” men, you take offense & argue. Therefore, proving our learned experience it’s useless to try. So since you won’t respect what I have to say, or thousands like me, in order to self-vali… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 03:50 AM |
| 0 | Women don’t respect the average man?You literally said “disrespect would be saying […] I don’t date office workers […]” So gee, I don’t know where I got the idea it’s not about dating. And again, I don’t respect people based in their appearance or income or being “average”. I respect people based on how they treat others. Including me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 03:00 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t respect the average man?Respect ≠ wanting to date! I respect the guy who bags my groceries. I respect my accountant who’s 5’6” and “dumpy” but is pleasant and efficient. I respect my plumber (who looks like a stereotypical plumber) but doesn’t try to overcharge me because I’m a woman. I respect the guy who details my car every season. I respect the guy who asked if I was done with the grocery cart & could he have it because he didn’t have a quarter handy. None of these men are trying to hook up. None of them treat me l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 01:46 AM |
| – | Asking for Paternity Verification Should Be Done Before Marriage and/or a Baby.I see it as similar to a pre-nup. It’s a highly charged subject and one that should be addressed well in advance of being needed. If a couple has such serious disagreements about such things before marriage/becoming pregnant, they’re not well matched anyway. I personally agree with pre-nups (for both parties) but generally get the ick from last minute paternity test requests (when it’s a long term, stable relationship) however, I also realize a man who has some trauma from being cheated on in th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 05:34 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Asking for a paternity test is not an accusation of cheating, and women who think like that are red flagsYou’re being deliberately obtuse. If she could have cheated and gotten pregnant, he says he deserves a test to be sure it’s his If he could have cheated and gotten an STD, she should deserve equal peace of mind with a test. Since there’s no way of knowing how many times he cheated, it would have to be a test before every sexual encounter. Just like he could say he doesn’t have any guarantee just because one kid was his, doesn’t mean subsequent kids are, so they all need to be tested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 02:57 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Asking for a paternity test is not an accusation of cheating, and women who think like that are red flagsBut it’s ok if he asks for a paternity test for every child? So it’s the exact same “risk” of cheating. She could get pregnant with someone else’s child (so he wants a test), vs. he could get an STD every time he cheated, so a test every time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 02:53 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Asking for a paternity test is not an accusation of cheating, and women who think like that are red flagsThis seems closer to an analogy of a woman asking her husband/committed SO to get an STD test before every time they have sex. Since apparently cheating is never a zero percent chance, & women would be protecting themselves, would men be ok with that? If you ask your wife/SO for a paternity test (for each child), you’re implying you believe there’s a possibility she cheated. So her asking you for an STD test before every sexual encounter would be stating the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 12:30 AM |
| – | Men scaremonger women about being old and alone because that is their fearWomen are seeking out good men. And that’s why so many (men and women) end up alone. Many women give up after a while because dating is a cesspool. We would literally rather be alone than a) be with someone we don’t consider a “good man” or b) have to continue putting ourselves through modern dating. There are definitely good men out there, but they’re becoming harder & harder to find, as Andrew Tate devotees, “alpha male”BS and incel culture continues to spread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 05:31 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t want men to have success in datingI’m sorry no woman can give you the magic words to make women sleep with you, but y’all refuse to listen to what we do say. We keep telling you there’s no magic beans, no mystical incantation, and that women are not a monolith and want different things, but mainly they want to be treated as people first, to not be treated like commodities, for men to work on their emotional stability and availability, etc. But NOOOOO…. If it isn’t “do this one thing, wear this particular hairstyle, say these 5 w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Why women think men suck at relationshipsThere’s a massive difference between someone who has low to no decor and doesn’t fold laundry vs. a man whose place makes you feel like you need an updated tetanus shot. Don’t have seasonal bed linens? No problem! don’t even change/wash bed linens seasonally? problem don’t fold laundry & kinda shove it in drawers? Meh has dirty laundry on the floor for weeks? 🤢 doesn’t have “decor” or fancy curtains? Couldn’t care less thinks someone who doesn’t think empty booze bottles and zero window covering… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 11:58 PM |
| 2 | Does female bonding sound as artificial as I think it does? Or is this how women genuinely feel?Women who offer compliments to others choose things they DO like to compliment. It’s not a lie. If I run into an acquaintance, or even a stranger in a social setting, it doesn’t matter if I don’t like their hair - I can compliment their shoes because I do love them. We tend to focus on the positive. I’m not lying by not telling them I don’t like their hair - it just doesn’t serve any purpose to mention that if not asked. Men complain about not getting compliments or not having emotional support/… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/23 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Do women use the adjectives "creepy" "weirdo" "stalker" etc., as synonymous of "unattractive"?I wouldn’t consider anyone a creep for asking to borrow a chair. But if I’m reading or studying or have headphone on, if Henry Cavill or Jason Mamoa interrupts me to leer/make sexual come-ons, I’d be broken-hearted to learn they’re a creep. It’s not the “attractiveness” of the man, it’s the appropriateness of the approach! Women keep saying this and men keep insisting otherwise. Fine. Listen to your incel echo chamber instead of… you know… actual women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/23 03:05 AM |
| 2 | Women, why do so many of you keep telling men that appproaching you is wrong and annoying?I happen to live in one of the most homogenous populations I’ve ever seen. I can tell you with absolute certainty my distaste of being catcalled or cold approached has nothing to do with race and everything to do with entitlement. I can’t believe I’m saying this, as I try to keep an open mind, but your “belief” is one of the most racist and bigoted takes I’ve ever heard. It’s not a covert complaint. It’s a completely up front, out loud and blatantly obvious complaint that men don’t get to cat ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 04:08 PM |
| 6 | Men should be able to get someone at or near their level of attractiveness, and being told “it’s not a points/bartering system,” “you are what you can get” or that “no one is obligated to date you” are simply deflections and gaslighting nonsense.Sincere question… how are these men “out of her league” if they’re sleeping with her?? Just because a woman is sleeping with a man, doesn’t mean she even wants to keep him long-term. The very fact he’s sleeping with her put him very much IN her league. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 06:49 PM |
| 8 | Men should be able to get someone at or near their level of attractiveness, and being told “it’s not a points/bartering system,” “you are what you can get” or that “no one is obligated to date you” are simply deflections and gaslighting nonsense.I accidentally stumbled across rateme and I’ve lost hope for any man posting in there. They’re delusional. 100% absolutely delulu. I’d love to see them rate men the way they rate women. There were literally super models and top list actresses being called “mid” 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Older childfree women are rarely miserableYour last sentence proves you dont speak for CF women, probably know nothing about them, and reduce their experience to a preconceived political opinion. CF women are vocal about their happiness specifically to express their authenticity to challenge the prevailing misconception all women have to want children or are “unfulfilled, lonely or bitter” without them. I’m not proving some political point, I’m speaking out against the disinformation and straight up misogyny of people like you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 11:32 PM |
| 3 | Women, would you rather date an attractive poor man or an unattractive rich man?If “attractiveness” includes personality, 1000% an attractive poor man. As long as they’re relatively self-supporting (im no-one’s sugar mama). A poor man can increase his earning potential. A selfish/narcissistic/cruel man isn’t worth any amount of money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 11:41 PM |
| 2 | Went full-on pick-me as an experiment and got a boyfriend within a month.That’s not “full on pick me”. That’s not even flirting with pick me. You just started acting like you were actually interested in someone and putting effort into the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/23 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Would you lose interest if a man didn't pay on the first date?If it’s a low cost date (coffee date, ice cream, etc) I prefer the inviter pay for the invitee. If it’s a more expensive date, I’d prefer to split. But I’m not going to be upset if someone sincerely wants to pay because they issued the invitation. And I always prefer to alternate who pays, or if he pays for dinner, I’ll pay for the movie tickets, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Women love one night stands as much as men doWomen love ONS with men who can bring them to orgasm. They don’t necessarily care if he’s a “high value man” (in your parlance) because they know it’s a ONS, not to build a life with. If a poor starving artist who’s not their ideal of “Prince Charming” can rock their world for a night, that’s the ONS they’re going for | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 03:05 PM |
| – | People who say "Sex isn't a need" don't know how it is to be the average manCite your source for “women are terrible at giving themselves orgasm”. “The survey found that 95 percent of American women have achieved orgasm when masturbating. The study then asked those women about how easy it is ...” https://www.google.ca/search?q=do+women+orgasm+more+during+masturbation&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-ca&client=safari Women do consume porn but don’t necessarily need it to masturbate as much as men seem to. You sound like someone who can’t bring a woman to orgasm but blame her for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 08:57 PM |
| 12 | Most guys don't like fake nails or heavy makeup. Guys, what do you do "for yourself" even though you know women find it unattractive?Way to miss the entire point OP posited women do these things for themselves You whine about your personal preferences OP asks what men do for themselves that perhaps women don’t appreciate You: crickets | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 08:03 PM |
| 1 | How can we fundamentally transform our understanding of masculinity to cultivate healthy and positive expressions of manhood, while dismantling the toxic beliefs and behaviors that often contribute to misogyny and the devaluation of women?Learn to write Learn to write It has nothing to do with my beliefs, I asked you to cite the source that YOU are quoting P.s. learn to write | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/23 02:18 AM |
| 1 | Analogy: Male attention is like air for women, Female attention is like food for menSo “a handful of very intelligent men are responsible for everything you & I… have access to today” Way to go in erasing every woman’s contribution throughout history! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/23 04:04 AM |
| 1 | What do you think of this advice for how to be in the top 5% of men?If he smells good and has manners and emotional availability? Abso-fuckin-lutely he’s top 5%. And I’m 5’7”, financially independent, don’t have kids, etc. ETA: top 5% for me. I don’t agree with the whole 80/20, 10/5% etc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/23 03:28 AM |
| 2 | Analogy: Male attention is like air for women, Female attention is like food for menSo in my “female” job supporting a teamsters union that’s 98% male, and working 80+ hours a week during contract season I’m just working enough for myself? I’m not helping anyone? And don’t say it’s for male attention. I work fully remotely and never actual see/speak to the people I represent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/23 03:23 AM |
| 1 | Analogy: Male attention is like air for women, Female attention is like food for menThank you. I read that line 3 times to make sure he was really saying my garbage collection or plumber (both who happen to be male) only took those jobs from being horny enough to “keep their bubble in infrastructure”? and women benefit from this? Has to be one of the dumbest, least thought out statements I’ve ever read. Sure. It has nothing to do with employment, salary, career advancement, self fulfillment. It’s because they’re horny enough to “do the worst jobs”. Does that mean my yuppie insu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/23 03:20 AM |
| -2 | How can we fundamentally transform our understanding of masculinity to cultivate healthy and positive expressions of manhood, while dismantling the toxic beliefs and behaviors that often contribute to misogyny and the devaluation of women?1) MEN look up to Tate. Not the majority of women. So if men want to attract women, being a Tate devotee is counterproductive 2) the majority of women do NOT reward toxic masculinity 3) cite your source for this 2022 study proving women “ are actually more turned on by men who have anti-feminist beliefs” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/23 03:05 AM |
| 6 | Female erotic plasticityI suppose you believe we all pillow fight in silk teddies during sleepovers too? You have no idea how immature (and gullible) you sound right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 01:39 AM |
| 5 | Female erotic plasticityPlease cite any credible peer reviewed study to support this BS theory of yours | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 01:37 AM |
| 5 | Female erotic plasticityI want to tell you how wrong you are, that lesbian does not equal bi and that you’re not going to make a lesbian bi but I have a feeling you’d ignore anything that didn’t confirm your conceited preconceived notions. You’re the reason women were more turned on by chimpanzee sex - it was more realistic and less misogynistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 01:36 AM |
| -1 | Is it true most men are giving up on dating?Women have increased their standards for dating. A portion of men have to decide whether to improve themselves (& therefore their chances of dating) or to not date. The power really is in their hands, but many refuse to believe it’s things within their control (personality, emotional maturity, etc) instead of things they do blame, like height or looks, neither of which is nearly as important to women as they think it is. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-state-our-unions/202208/whats-b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Women: Can you expand on or give examples of men not "getting it"?Listening to this advice is part of the problem. “Most women” do NOT play games, and just want to be treated like actual people - not just objects you want sex from. And we can tell. You’re misunderstanding the “social language” you’re talking about. No means no, not “try harder”. The Friend Zone to us means you don’t see us as friends, you just pretended to be a friend, hoping to get laid. Do you hang out with your male friends, just hoping to fu¢k them? No? Well, that’s what we want out of a f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/22 08:23 PM |
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