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The point is that black people are societally guarded against racism, Indians aren’t. There’s a stigma surrounding anti black racism
/r/MensRights17/08/24 11:57 AM
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I’m literally just pointing out the insane double standard online. When did I say that I want to disparage black people? Citing stats isn’t racist, nor is it disparaging.
/r/MensRights17/08/24 11:56 AM
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Sure, there’s racism against black people on social media. But they also have the benefits of having large numbers in the American population, having politicians, the entertainment industry, celebrities, etc. vouching for them, and the general stigma against anti black racism in our society.
/r/MensRights17/08/24 08:52 AM
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Thank you for this comment. It’s insane to me how so many men have no problem degrading us and marking us look horrible, but some women seem to ironically have a higher view of us and call out these degrading lies lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:05 AM
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As an American of South Asian (specifically indian) origin, seeing shit like this is just awful. As others pointed out, these downright racist comments are generally accepted while anything even remotely critical of black men (who commit most of the violent crime in this country) won’t even be tolerated. It’s disgusting.
/r/MensRights17/08/24 08:03 AM
5

I’m sorry you have such a negative view of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:22 AM
13

Most men in my age range (Gen Z) prefer serious relationships to casual sex with strangers, actually
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:03 AM
13

Delusional. Most women who have casual sex, want casual sex. Most instances of casual sex aren’t “evil man lies to a woman so that she sleeps with him.” That’s simply a misandrist myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:02 AM
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Yeah that’s delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:35 PM
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That’s one of those subtle things that indicate how the idea of women being inherently asexual (or even averse to sex) is so deeply internalized by most people. Like you said, it’s insinuating that sex is something only men want but women “give” or “let happen” to themselves. Other examples of statements like this are “women put out” or “men fuck/bang/screw, but women are fucked/banged/screwed” (to be fair, this one is nowadays also used with women as the agent, such as “she fucked her friend’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:06 PM
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In your unnecessarily long diatribe, you claimed that men’s main motivation for entering relationships was sex, and that the normalization of casual sex and hookup culture has made men less likely to “step up” to be a good partner (again, for the ultimate purpose of sex). But even with the prevalence of hookup culture, men are still yearning for meaningful and serious relationships, even “chads” whom all women lust after. And women also desire sex, hence why the loosening of societal pressure re…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:01 AM
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I’d be willing to bet money that this girl grew up in a religious (most likely evangelical) household. The idea that women don’t lust or can’t lust “like men” is a common trope in those kinds of communities. It’s completely false, of course. There’s a reason why almost every ancient culture and civilization believed women to be the carnal and sexually driven gender.
/r/MensRights14/08/24 05:46 PM
2

Henpecking and constantly berating a husband would kill his sexual desire as well. It’s very common for men to lose libido as a result of being constantly criticized and belittled.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:56 PM
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This also debunks the ridiculous lie that women are somehow more “mature” when it comes to the way they’re attracted to the other sex, or that only men are shallow and motivated by physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:25 PM
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Physically attractive men get much more attention from women and girls and as such are much more socially skilled and confident. More at 10
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:23 PM
4

What’s insane is that I’ve noticed that men are the ones who mostly promote this degrading myth, but more often it’s women who seem to push back against it. Such a bizarre phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:06 PM
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Most men period can’t be bought with sex. Almost every other post on this subreddit has become “men are dumb horny animals who women manipulate using sex.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 04:34 PM
5

Stop this shit. Sex is not a “carrot on a stick” for men. Most men are not dumb animals who are easily swayed by sex, and the ones that are like that are just pathetic and embarrassing. And in case you haven’t noticed, women also need and want sex. OP, if you’re a man, you’re degrading yourself and somehow not even realizing it. Your take is utterly delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 04:17 PM
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I swear to god, people who ask questions like this have never interacted with real men outside of a tiny social media balloon. Of course the vast majority of men care about women’s hobbies, personality, political beliefs, etc. and not solely focus on sex; the ones that do are not looking for serious relationships. If you want to see how just dumb it is to claim that men exclusively complain about dead bedrooms, I suggest you take a look at r/DeadBedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 07:35 PM
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OP has definitely read the book The Rules and thinks those two snake oil salesmen authors are geniuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:59 PM
4

This is absolutely delusional. I don’t even know what else to say without being rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:57 PM
4

Most women value sexual prowess and sexual skill in a man, and most won’t date or marry a man who can’t sexually satisfy a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:51 PM
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THANK YOU. I can’t believe how often this bullshit comes up in this subreddit. And it’s astonishing how many men don’t find it dehumanizing or degrading.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:15 PM
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This entire concept of a “sexual marketplace” makes me sick. Sex isn’t something women “give” men, women don’t have a monopoly on sex, and women have sexual desires and pursue sex themselves. It’s insane how the ridiculous ideas of the “sexual marketplace” theory are being championed by so-called feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:11 PM
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Your mom has an incredibly misandrist view of relationships. I wouldn’t be surprised if she never even orgasmed once in her entire marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:08 PM
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Yeah, this isn’t a gendered issue lol. People simply compete to look good in the eyes of the other sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:54 PM
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I cannot stand when men say shit like that. Aside from the fact that they’re excusing predatory behavior from a woman, they’re painting men/boys to be insatiable sex animals who can’t ever be raped or sexually assaulted because we “always want it.” And as someone who was a 14 year old boy not too long ago, I can assure that a 30 year old woman seducing ‘‘em at that age would’ve fucked me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:08 PM
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Women have to work for sex with the supposed 15-20% of men who are physically attractive enough. Those me can have, and reject, sex as they please.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 08:06 AM
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I agree. I’m a man and me and my male friends have actual standards, for both sex as well as relationships. Men who accept casual sex at the drop of a hat are pathetic IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 08:04 AM
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You’ve just simply realized that the “women can sleep with whomever they want, but men need to work for it” dynamic is fundamentally flawed. Using this logic, it the 15-20% of men whom women lust after are promiscuous and sleeping with a lot of women, they’re “sluts” because sex is easy for them to get. And again, using this logic, if a woman who is unattractive or unappealing is able to get a man to sleep with her, she should be praised, since sex for her is NOT easy to get. But unfortunately, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 08:02 AM
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Women will absolutely fuck men they have no in interest in actually dating, like a fun hot guy who works as a busboy. He’ll be for her recreational and sexual use, but never anything more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 07:36 AM
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Lmao what? Men choose women just as much as women choose men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:22 AM
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Men only find sex appealing with attractive women, do they not? What man wants to have sex with a woman he doesn’t find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:47 PM
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Sure, women won’t want to sleep with average guys as often, but I disagree that women are so averse to sex that it’s “rare” for them to be in the mood for sex with attractive enough men. It’s definitely common for women, regardless of whether they want a relationship or not, to want to fuck attractive dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:31 PM
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Good point. OP is assuming that sex is something men inherently desire (to the point that they are willing to lie for it) but women are inherently uninterested or averse to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 01:31 PM
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This post makes a lot of generalizations about women and men. But most importantly, there are plenty of women who enjoy causal sex for the sake of casual sex. Honestly, most men don’t need to lie about their intentions at all in order to obtain consequence free sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 12:54 PM
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Agreed. Most men desire something deeper than casual sex. I can’t even fathom having sex with a woman and never seeing or talking to her again. Sex is far too intimate of an act for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 03:51 PM
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If a woman is interested in me and I find her attractive (and she has a good personality) then I’d want a serious relationship with her. If a woman is attractive and emotionally stable enough for me to want to sleep with her, she’s most likely good enough to date. Casual sex, even with an attractive woman, is meaningless if she’ll cheat or only use me for sex and nothing serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 01:48 PM
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Interesting. Did you know for sure that the girls in your class were lying? I’m certain that they were, I’m just curious if they actually admitted to such.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:54 PM
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Using that logic, men who are attractive and can get sex easily should be seen in a negative light if they are promiscuous, and unattractive women should be praised if they manage to get a lot of men to sleep with them. Also, the idea that women are more “holistic” in their approach to sex and don’t see it as a means of physical pleasure/gratification is demonstrably false
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:59 PM
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How are men not also the “gatekeepers” of breeding? Men choose who they have offspring with, they can force themselves on women, etc. They absolutely play a role in the process of breeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:53 PM
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This is unfathomably stupid. No, men are not only interested in physical pleasure and sex. No, women are not only interested in having an emotional connection and love. All this post does is degrade and denigrate men but elevate women to a position of moral superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:45 PM
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Because sex carries much less risk for men who are only looking for short term pleasure. But of course, there are limits. For example, I couldn’t sexual desire a woman with political views I find despicable, no matter this physically attractive I find her. I wouldn’t be able to divorce myself from her mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:57 PM
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The difference is nowhere near that profound. Society often downplay women’s carnal inclinations as a way of portraying them as pure and angelic, whereas men are portrayed to be perpetually horny animals with zero control/restraint.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:54 PM
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Men have to commit to having sex as well, not just financial commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:59 AM
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The libidos of women and men are different on average, yes. But different to the point that it’s “difficult” to understand each other? Not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:34 AM
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What a bizarre post
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:25 AM
3

What? Of course men can seduce women, isn’t that the whole point of much of modern dating? Men also choose who they do/don’t sleep with, and for men who are physically attractive, they can fuck who they wish without even having to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 07:31 PM
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OP is degrading men by claiming that we have zero agency or control over our sexual desires. It’s unbelievably insulting and dehumanizing. It truly boggles my mind that men like OP exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 07:46 AM
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Men don’t get instantly turned on by every attractive woman they see, unless they begin to fantasize further. And women don’t get turned on by random guys based on their appearance? Tell me you’ve never been to a bar, party or club without telling me you’ve never been to a bar, party or club
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 02:08 AM
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Well yes, men are significantly larger and stronger than women and therefore won’t be nearly as apprehensive about a woman making sexual comments towards them than vice versa. That being said, there absolutely exists a double standard where women can sexually assault, harass, and stalk men and most people simply shrug it off or minimize it as much as possible. That’s extremely disturbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 02:05 AM
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Exactly, only attractive women have unlimited options.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 08:11 AM
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I agree. A woman who would wants me sexually despite disliking my personality would be an amazing ego boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:43 PM
0

As a man, I don’t want to have sex with a woman who doesn’t want me. It would be impossible for me to enjoy or desire sex if she isn’t attracted to me or genuinely wants to fuck me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:17 PM
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Like 5’11
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:57 PM
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Yes. A good friend of mine (we’re both 23). He’s very good looking and muscular, and has great social skills. Girls on dating apps hit him up for sex, initiate conversations, flirt with him, and ask him for dates. He’s also very active in clubs/bars, and often girls dance and make out with him, ask for his number, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:37 PM
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I don’t know is OP is a man or not, but if he is, all he’s done is dehumanize himself and other men with this post. Not to mention expose how delusional he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:12 PM
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Exactly. The root of the male loneliness problem is that so many men feel undesirable and unattractive, NOT that they can’t have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:10 PM
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Posts like this are the reason I’ve chosen my flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:08 PM
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This is the most delusional post I’ve seen on this subreddit in a while. No, we do not all agree that mens’ greatest motivation is sex. No, men do not do things only in the hope of having sex. No, men are not “desperate” for sex. No, men do not only interact with women for sexual motives. I sincerely hope OP is a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:07 PM
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Yeah this subreddit warrants it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 12:17 AM
5

There’s a reason that it’s not culturally accepted, just like there are reasons for a whole myriad of things being not culturally accepted. Most men stop wouldn’t indulge in prostitution even if it were culturally accepted because of the aforementioned reasons: it isn’t the same as actually mutually desired sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 08:08 PM
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No, they wouldn’t. Men who pay for sex are mocked specifically because they can’t get a woman to truly desire them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:36 PM
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Most men want a woman who actually enjoys having sex with them and desires him. Hence why most men don’t indulge in prostitution. Also, why are you assuming that the only reason men enter relationships is for sex? Or that sex is a transactional act that women “provide” men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:34 PM
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Men who say that men and women can’t be friends are simply projecting their own problems onto all men. They’re admitting that they’re perverts but can’t even take personal responsibility, they have to claim it’s a all-male trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:30 PM
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Here’s a post I recently saw that deals with this very issue: https://np.reddit.com/r/ask/s/FINnSBhe00 Basically, male friendships don’t usually involve emotional support, so when a man befriends a woman and she lends him emotional support or comfort, he mistakes it for her being romantically attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:09 PM
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OP is asking about why men develop romantic sentiments for their female friends. Not sexual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:07 PM
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Women absolutely care more about a man’s physical appearance than society portrays. There exists a stupid myth that women are attracted to more serious traits in men, such as his personality or intelligence, but men are just shallow and slobber over hot women and couldn’t care less for a woman’s actual personality. It’s degrading nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:42 AM
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It’s funny that you mention that show. I actually love the show, for the same reason your mother hated it: it portrayed a wife who was starved of sex and deeply desired physical intimacy, but a husband who was almost indifferent to, and even disgusted by, the prospect of having sex with his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:31 AM
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Emotional needs aren’t strictly female and physical needs definitely aren’t strictly male.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:37 AM
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Typically women will use men for sex or carnal pleasure but never actually want a serious relationship with those men, and instead pursue serious relationships with other men who they don’t want to fuck as spontaneously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:15 PM
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Your entire proof of this supposed notion is your own observation that women are incapable of cheating on a man they enjoy being in a relationship with, yet women cheat this way all the time. Cheating circumstances aren’t a monolith. It’s funny how this ridiculous false dichotomy is meant to make women look bad, but it achieves the exact opposite: it makes men look bad by painting us as animals with zero self control (but conversely portraying women as having self control and having a superior v…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:01 PM
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If a man cheats solely for novelty sex, he never valued the relationship he was in to begin with. The assumption that men aren’t emotionally invested in their relationships, and that their cheating is purely carnal and never emotional/mental, is completely delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:26 PM
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The social idea that men are supposed to pursue women but women are supposed to sit back and do nothing is really cancerous, and the belief that men inherently like to “chase” women is BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:58 PM
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If personality “mattered as much” to women, they wouldn’t chase after good looking men with poor personalities, stay in bad relationships with attractive men, or pursue men who don’t take notice of them in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:28 PM
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Who says women don’t value sex over friendship?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:17 AM
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Could you share those studies here? I’ve always observed that men prioritize serious relationships over casual sex, despite what most people tend to believe. It would be great to see legitimate evidence of my observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:10 AM
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I don’t agree with your binary that men push for sex but women push for a committed relationship. Attractive men are desired by women for both sex and companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:26 AM
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Libido doesn’t play much of a role as to why men struggle with being single, or has more to do with male loneliness. Most men can easily have sex if they lowered their standards for decided to pursue uncommitted relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:06 PM
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Enough for it to be a serious emotional burden for women who want causal sex or even just sex outside of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 08:43 PM
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And as I commented above, physically attractive men have an easy time getting casual sex, so why aren’t they being shamed as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:15 PM
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Sex being seen as something men “do” to women is unfortunately extremely common. How often have we heard that men “fuck” women and “do” women? Obviously we can just as often hear the reverse nowadays (we commonly hear “she fucked him”) but the original usage was always a man “doing” the fucking to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:14 PM
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It’s also funny because naturally good looking men have a much easier time having sex than physically unattractive men. Should those attractive men be shamed for sleeping around, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:11 PM
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I have no idea who that is, but he sounds like a genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 04:35 AM
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I agree. Many women seem to see such men as sex toys and only want to hook up with them, but never marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 04:19 AM
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All the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:14 AM
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Men who are tall, physically attractive, etc. have an extremely easy time getting sex, having women drool over them, and finding long term romantic relationships. They’re the most privileged when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 01:08 AM
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Agreed. Those men have the upper hand in dating, no contest. Women lust after them, want to fuck them, and want to marry them, whereas the remaining men are left in the dust.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 01:07 AM
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What you’re describing is just building sexual tension and anticipation prior to actual sex, which is something most people want. You also acknowledge that both women and men engage in this kind of “chase.” What I’m disputing is the idea that men specifically enjoy the idea of chasing after a disinterested woman like some desperate dog. That’s deranged and completely at odd with what most men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:32 AM
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Those men are just creeps who don’t understand that no means no. Most men aren’t such creeps and as such are turned off by a woman being disinterested.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 09:26 PM
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What makes you think that women who “play coy” are treated more favorably by men? Most men prefer women who are upfront and open about their desire. Funnily enough, the reverse is demonstrably true: women seem to find mysterious, uninterested men more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:14 PM
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If there’s one thing most men hate, it’s when women play hard to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:07 PM
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What makes you say men don’t like feel sexually objectified? I could understand if it’s from younger women, but it gets unwanted when it’s from older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:02 PM
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Society is only now realizing that women in education (teachers), nurses, etc. are committing acts of sexual abuse and sexual harassment towards men at astonishing rates, and that much of this is ignored or met with derision. I seriously don’t know if I can send my son to a public school knowing how often female teachers groom and rape young boys.
/r/MensRights06/03/24 05:43 PM
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I’m 23 as well, and it seems that most girls my age have no qualms with casual sex 🤷🏻‍♂️ I guess it depends heavily on location/context
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 10:49 PM
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These past few months. I’ve been trying to talk to women and actually initiate conversations with them for the first time ever, and I’m terribly shy at it. It’s hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:08 AM
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It happens when both the woman and man want it to happen. Men are not “always ready” and women are not “gatekeepers.” Stop assuming men’s consent is a given.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 02:43 AM
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Yeah I’ve noticed the same thing. Those men are degrading themselves and they’re too stupid to even realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:22 PM
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Nah, I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:55 PM
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“Men will fuck anything that moves” how is this idiotic lie still prevalent on this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:11 PM
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When I was 11, this neighbor of my grandmother’s (who was in her early 20s) would always act flirty around me; it made me feel so uncomfortable. Nothing seriously criminal, just saying things that made me feel uncomfortable and kissing me on the cheek which I didn’t care for. Hope she’s doing well
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:52 PM
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Why do you assume that women only have sex to gain something out of it transactionally, as opposed to wanting sex in of itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 09:57 PM
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Yeah, that study just sounds ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 09:56 PM
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It’s funny how when some men are also preoccupied with how women masturbate, it’s normally out of frustration that men won’t be able to sexually please women if women get too accustomed to sex toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:24 PM
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What a weird question. And why do you assume masturbating to the thought of acquaintances is a male only activity?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:50 PM
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Agreed. This stupid trope infantilizes men and portrays us as stupid animals, whereas women are more complex and sophisticated. I fucking hate it with every fiber in my being.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:50 PM
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And most women would sneer at and mock a man who doesn’t want causal sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:01 AM
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That male sexuality is shallow, carnal, and rooted in physical pleasure, but female sexuality is conversely more “mature” and rooted in emotional connections and personality instead. And that women are supposedly not carnally minded or shallow when it comes to a man’s looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 01:01 PM
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Agreed. I can’t stand when people assume that men are only concerned with a woman’s looks when selecting a partner, but women are supposedly much more “holistic” and “mature” when it comes to selecting a man. It elevates women to a false moral high ground with regards to relationships and attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:58 PM
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In the past, men were the ones who controlled marriage and sex. Forced marriage, polygamy, concubinage, etc. were commonplace (and are still practiced in modern times). The idea that women had any kind of real power is ludicrous. Women don’t “give” men sex. Consenting adults engage in sex of their own volition. Women have sex with those men out of their own sexual motivations as well, it isn’t a male-only desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:55 PM
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Exactly. The joys of sex with a real woman: satisfying her physically, seeing her desire for you, etc. cannot be replicated with sex dolls, no matter how realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:38 AM
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While women do tend to take longer to get aroused, there definitely are men who have a much easier time making women aroused. Women lust after those men the same way men lust after hot women, it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:04 AM
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This might be the most delusional comment I’ve seen on this entire subreddit. Women don’t lust? Men are perpetually horny? Those are seriously hills you’re willing to die on? Get out more, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:01 AM
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The more blatant hypocrisy is women who shame men for watching porn, but who themselves watch porn, indulge in erotica, use sex toys and openly discuss masturbating and sex, shame men for their penis size and sexual prowess, etc. That’s the hypocrisy that needs to be discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:34 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:09 PM
4

If you’re a good looking dude, chances are your female friends are sexually attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:09 PM
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So women don’t pursue sex or physical pleasure? They only have sex if they’re going through something emotionally or mentally traumatic? 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:05 PM
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Why do you assume that a woman only want to “fuck Chad” to keep him around for a relationship? Have you considered that it may be because she is genuinely aroused by him and wants carnal pleasure?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:03 PM
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If you say one gender bases attraction solely on physical appearance but the other gender factors non physical traits as well, then you’re saying the former is shallow and carnally minded. You’re delusional for suggesting that men only care for a woman’s appearance and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:07 AM
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Yeah, this is nonsense. The idea that men are just shallow and focused on a woman’s looks while women lust in a more “mature” way (and consider more than just a man’s looks) is demonstrably false. Men absolutely take a woman’s personality and traits into account. Especially men who are seeking serious relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:29 AM
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They regularly do polls on that subreddit, and they consistently find that about 40% of the high libido partners are women (either wives or girlfriends).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 11:44 PM
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A lot of dudes are also willing to fuck anyone who is willing to bang them, provided they're not terribly deformed. Mens’ standards are higher than you think. Men want to fuck women they find physically attractive, and who they find mentally/emotionally stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:11 PM
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What a ridiculous generalization. Not all dead bedrooms are a husband who is unsatisfied with the lack of sex, as r/DeadBedrooms easily demonstrates. And not all men desire variety to the point that they get resentful; if anything, women are the ones that seem to desire greater variety and novelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:07 PM
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And when the wife has the higher libido in 1/3 marriages? And when there are many marriages where the husband is depriving his wife of sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:05 PM
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The worst part about this discourse (and your post title) is that it frames dead bedrooms as strictly a wife with no interest in sex, when it cursory glance at r/DeadBedrooms would prove that there are countless marriages where the husband has lost interest in sex and the wife is suffering from it. Why don’t you write a post about why men cause dead bedrooms and why their wives cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:04 PM
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Because women have more risks at play, and not just pregnancy. Lack of physical pleasure, social and cultural stigmas, fear of violence, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:46 PM
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Women are much more sexually fluid than men. Even heterosexual women find sexual attraction in other women much more often than heterosexual men find sexual attraction in other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:19 PM
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Lol, no. Most men want relationships, not meaningless sexual encounters. Far more men complain about being lonely and feeling undesired.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:02 PM
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It would appear that the “slut” is unable to control her own carnal urges, so it’s not like she’ll want to wait for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:44 AM
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Depends highly on the woman. A conventionally hot woman? She’ll have no problem getting laid. A less attractive woman? Not so much
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:23 PM
2

Thank you. I hate how this entire comment section assumes women are inherently averse to sex but men are inherently carnal and lewd.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:50 PM
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Good point. I hate when people assume that sex is an inherently a reward for men but inherently a chore/task for women. Sex with is absolutely a reward for women if they’re satisfied and it’s with a man they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:44 PM
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While being a good lover and being able to sexually satisfy a woman is something women look for in a man, a woman’s attraction to a man’s height has nothing to do with his penis size lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:21 AM
4

I wish people on this subreddit acknowledged this fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:02 AM
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The point is that a considerable amount of women are as horny as men, even if men on average have higher sex drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:01 AM
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Women aren’t a monolith. A lot of women enjoy casual sex and indulge in it frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:20 PM
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Except some men can get casual sex extremely easily, and other men get jealous of those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:19 PM
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If you’re asking whether or not women are willing to overlook sexual dysfunction in a man, the answer is a hard NO. Most if not all women absolutely need sexual pleasure and satisfaction in marriage. This is non negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:15 AM
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What if it’s a woman who seeks a superficial friendship with a man with the sole purpose of obtaining sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:59 PM
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What on earth are you talking about? How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 08:19 AM
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There exist equivalent phrases with regards to women’s sexual desires. “She was thinking with her clit” or “she can’t keep her legs closed.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:11 AM
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This whole “withholding sex” dialogue also conveniently ignores the fact that in many marriages, the wife is frustrated with the lack, or infrequency, of sex. And many husbands are effectively “withholding” sex from their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:15 PM
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Henry Cavill recently said that he dislikes sex scenes in movies. The poor guy is sick of being objectified by horny housewives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:04 PM
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What man gets the ick from a woman who pursues him? And what man enjoys pursuing a clearly disinterested woman? It seems like you get all your dating knowledge from “The Rules,” that horrible dating book from the 90s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:53 PM
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Agreed. The “men are meant to pursue, women are meant to be pursued” trope is dumb and toxic and leaves most men feeling undesired. I don’t know why OP seems to think it’s “natural” for men to want to pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:47 PM
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What makes you say men “like” pursuing? Most men seem to at least somewhat detest this societal notion, and most men would absolutely LOVE to feel desired and pursued after. Probably the biggest complaint men have when it comes to dating is that they feel unwanted ot undesired by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:46 PM
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Most men who date are looking for serious relationships, and when looking for serious relationships, most men want to abstain from sex for a while at least. But don’t let that get in the way of your misandrist take.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:44 PM
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Women face more risks in casual sex than men, but they are evidently willing to overlook those risks to have sex with men whom they find sexually desirable or if they desire sexual activity and touch
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:37 PM
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Agreed. I hate how this post essentially claims that the main motivation for men to date or seek relationships is sex, that sex is something women “give” men, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:04 PM
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You’re completely correct. It astonishes me how so many men degrade and insult themselves and other men with the tropes they promote, but seem to not realize it. They’re ironically the biggest misandrists ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:21 PM
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Cheating because you wanted to “scratch an itch” is essentially being a dumb animal who acts on impulse, whereas “premeditated” cheating implies more mental and physical discipline. You’re insulting and degrading men with this bullshit trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:19 PM
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It’s also funny how most guys can easily get sex, if they lower their standards of who they want to sleep with. They claim sex is difficult to obtain because they only desire sex with exceptionally attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:30 PM
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I just treat everyone the same. The idea that women and men are so different that they’re almost different species is plainly ludicrous. Also, I really hope you’re being sarcastic about female sexuality being morally “superior” to male sexuality in your third paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:36 PM
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Yes, men have higher sex drives on average, so what? Why are you and OP obsessed with the idea that men are shallow, horny beasts but women are conversely morally superior and have far less interest in carnal pleasure?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:52 PM
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I’m a man and I don’t feel great about casual sex either, I would at least want to remain in contact with a women I have sex with. Never seeing them again when having shared such an intimate thing isn’t conceivable for me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:38 PM
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I agree with you that society paints women as more “moral” when it comes to sex and sexuality than men, which I strongly despise. But it’s specifically because of the fact that people view male sexuality as carnal, shallow, and rooted in physical pleasure, while female sexuality is conversely emotional, mental, and rooted in emotional connections. That dynamic paints men as dumb horny animals who only seek sensual pleasure, whereas women are morally superior (in your words, “women are wonderful”…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:37 PM
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It’s also strange that OP uses the “experiment” of women and men being approached for sex as “proof” of his claim, despite the fact that it didn’t account for these various factors. Subsequent research that took these factors into account yielded many more women being interested in sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:29 PM
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I highly doubt that an account like that will garner a lot of male attention
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:11 PM
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This dude has been posting this same thing across multiple subreddits for weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:00 PM
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And it goes the other way as well. Most men wouldn’t even consider having sex with women they find unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:00 PM
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I’ve seen attractive men complain about not being desired for their intelligence or personality, but rather only being seen as “eye candy.” I’ve also seen men complain about sexual harassment and lewd comments/behavior from female coworkers. Most women also have a fear of being raped, and most men don’t. If you think women aren’t interested in having sex just for the sake of it, you must not go to clubs or bars with good looking dudes. Women turn straight-up feral around those fellows.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:58 PM
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Men can easily get laid, they just don’t want to have sex with women they don’t find super hot. Most men won’t even consider sex with a woman they don’t find physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:55 PM
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Women are fine with casual sex, if it’s with an exceptionally handsome and attractive man. Everyday reality demonstrates this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:55 PM
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Jesus Christ, you’re back? Again? Why are you obsessed with this idea? Girls can absolutely love sex as much as men, there are just more risks attached to it than for men. Just look at how women act in bars and clubs towards exceptionally attractive men. And most men can easily get laid, they just don’t want to sleep with women they don’t find super attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:52 PM
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Even though women absolutely need to be sexually satisfied in order for there to be a meaningful relationship, penis size is almost always something that men are unnecessarily paranoid about. Unless you have a severe physiological issue, you’re fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 10:34 PM
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No, I don’t put great effort in my appearance unless I’m going out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:09 PM
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Sometimes I look in the mirror and my hair looks good or I feel handsome when wearing a certain suit or outfit. Is that what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:31 PM
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“Are they hot?” That’s what women ask about men as well. Personality matters, but only after a man’s physical appearance is deemed attractive enough. And sex isn’t the “most important thing” for us. You have a cartoonish view of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:06 AM
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I learned men’s sex drives are in the stratosphere and could probably never be satisfied. You’re making the mistake of listening to the people on this subreddit. For some reason this subreddit attracts a lot of people who think men are insatiable sex fiends but that women are conversely much less sexually driven and are therefore morally “superior.” It’s deranged.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:40 PM
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I never understand why people on here assume that sex is hard for average men to obtain. It really isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:31 PM
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Women cheat less frequently than men, but it isn’t by a huge margin (and women and men under 30 cheat at almost the same rates). I understand men desire sex much more than women Not true. But even if it were, this wouldn’t justify cheating or normalize the idea that men are inherently prone to cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 10:44 PM
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Women aren’t any less visual or attentive to physical features than men. And men who possess the looks and physical traits that women fawn over absolutely show their bodies off as much as possible. It’s the same vanity and narcissism as women who show off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:10 PM
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And men work out, wear perfume and body spray, and wear in suits and certain other articles of clothing for female attention. What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:55 PM
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Women aren’t less visual than men. Anyone who says this, whatever kind of pill ideology they adhere to, is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:25 PM
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So female sexuality isn’t as innocent, angelic, or mature as society likes to think? Shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:14 PM
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Agreed. Physically attractive men are the ones who have it best, no contest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:40 AM
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Attractive men are more privileged than attractive women. The good looking men at your college are having a much better life than the good looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:39 AM
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Women have more fetishes than men lol. This is simply a game of redefining terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:38 PM
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Men won’t “fuck anything.” Stop spreeing such utter nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:33 PM
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The person I was responding to was implying that women need many more factors to be perfect in order to want sex: must be in a relationship, must be happy, must be financially stable, must have eaten that day, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:26 PM
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He’s made this post numerous times across many subreddits that I’m a member of. It’s annoying at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:25 PM
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Okay buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:37 AM
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But if women require “the right circumstances” why do they pursue casual sex with men they find physically attractive at bars or clubs? I guess “the tight circumstances” only apply to men who aren’t blessed with good looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:52 AM
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Nobody denies it. I’ve never seen anyone deny this, unless they’re trying to dispel the myth that women are asexual and completely indifferent to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:18 AM
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Just go on r/AskMen and see all the questions like “when has a woman sexually harassed or assaulted you” and you’ll get countless stories of women abusing their authority, sexually harassing men, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:11 AM
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Can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:07 AM
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Amen. The “women aren’t carnal and only use sex to get something in return” trope is alive and well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:07 AM
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OP has been obsessively posting this same content repeatedly over multiple subreddits. It’s disturbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:06 AM
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Oh my God, why are you posting this again? You’ve made this exact same post numerous times across multiple subreddits. Do men have higher sex drives on average? Yes. Does that warrant you to make the same bullshit post every other day? Absolutely not. Does that mean women aren’t also carnal and horny? Nope. Does that mean that women are incapable of fathoming horniness or doing stupid things out of pure lust? No and no. Just stop dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:04 AM
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Those men are clowns who’ve never sexually satisfied a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 10:08 PM
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Men in relationships need to feel wanted and secure as well in order to enjoy sex. For us, sex isn’t just a physical act that’s entirely separated from our emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:54 PM
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Didn’t you just make this exact post on the r/psychologyofsex subreddit? Lmao. I don’t understand why some people are so committed to the idea that men are horny animals who constantly pursue sex, but women are angelic beings with no carnal inclinations whatsoever. Very misandrist and exaggerative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:03 PM
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Thank you. I hate when people portray male sexuality to be simple and easy to understand. It isn’t. Humans aren’t “simple.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:11 PM
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A major problem with the discourse on female/male sexuality is that society treats female sexuality as if it’s moral, ethical, relational, and based on emotional intelligence, whereas male sexuality is morally inferior, carnal, impulsive, and rooted purely in physical pleasure. It’s a degrading myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:01 PM
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That’s the same concept, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:55 AM
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You’re delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:48 AM
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Do women pay for sex at the same rates that men do? No. Do women indulge in carnal and lewd behavior in other ways? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:30 AM
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So men’s main desire is simply carnal pleasure but women are morally “superior” and desire a meaningful relationship/connection. Yeah, this is just an anti-man lie that seems to degrade men and elevate women to a moral high ground. Also, the way women easily pursue and desire sex with certain men would debunk this trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:37 AM
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Okay, and every time I go online I see a yet another news story about a female teacher who sexually abuses her male students. Or a female cop that fucked her coworkers in the police station office. Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:32 AM
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The idea that women are asexual angels with no carnal desires is such a bullshit lie that it’s incomprehensible to me how people still believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:28 AM
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I’ll keep saying this as much as I have to: Women do not “control” access to sex. Sex requires the man’s consent just as much. Men reject sex as well as women. And men aren’t enslaved by our sexual desires or incapable of denying sex. These are all misandrist lies, and the irony is that believers in the “red pill” ideology don’t even realize they’re degrading men by promoting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:27 AM
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Men’s standards for sex are lower because they don’t face nearly the same risks or social/cultural backlash that women face. But it seems that exceptionally attractive men make women bend the rules
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:33 PM
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People who promote the idea that men will “fuck anything” are misandrist scumbags. They either hate men or simply enjoy propagating lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:32 PM
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The biggest lie in the relationship and dating discourse is that women are somewhat more “mature” than men when it comes to dating and don’t focus on things like a man’s physical appearance that much. An absolutely, demonstrably false lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:14 AM
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Men are not a monolith. But I would imagine that many want a serious relationship with someone they find attractive and will reject any sexual advances from such a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:34 AM
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Agreed. I hate how OP is trying to portray women as coy or less carnal than men, when demonstrable reality contradicts this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:01 PM
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Women are far less horny than men, and require a multitude of circumstances to get in the mood and actually agree to have sex. And yet, as others have pointed out, women have no issues with fucking random hot guys they see at the club or bars. Make it make sense. This idea that we live in some “hook up” culture and that women are sleeping with 30+ men by 25 is nonsense. Agreed. This is exaggerated nonsense propagated by red pill types. This is for one reason and one reason only - women are not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:00 PM
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If there were circumstances that were out of my partner’s control, like being physically incapable of having sex, then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:47 PM
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Your question assumes that dead bedrooms strictly involve a woman who loses interest in sex, when this of course isn’t the case. Women and men can feel unsatisfied with a lack of sex. Just take a look at r/DeadBedrooms and you’ll see how women as well as men are complaining and contemplating leaving their relationships over lack of sex. To answer your question, there’s a massive difference between leaving your partner because they won’t have sex, and leaving because of years of feeling unwanted,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:29 PM
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People like OP think that any time a rapist is found guilty, it immediately means that the conviction only happened because the victim’s word was taken, not any other evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:14 AM
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I agree that woman aren’t loved unconditionally, but please stop acting as if men can’t love someone without sex. Absolutely nonsensical
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:28 AM
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I didn’t know who this person was but I searched him just now and idk what OP is talking about lol. Dude is handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:33 PM
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Maybe women no longer need men for financial reasons, but women’s need for sex, romance, and companionship will motivate them to seek relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:37 PM
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It’s funny how society promotes the idea that men love when women act mysteriously and show disinterest (because men supposedly like the “challenge” of pursuing a disinterested woman) but studies and demonstrable reality indicate that women are the ones become infatuated with mysterious men, and most men aren’t attracted to mysterious women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:34 AM
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The notion that women aren’t sexual or carnally minded, but conversely men are insatiable animals who always pursue sex and carnal pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:23 PM
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It’s true that many women only use men for sex, but if the man develops a desire for a serious relationship, the woman, having had her carnal desires satisfied, will have moved on to the next man. It’s a harsh reality of modern dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:05 PM
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I feel the same way. If a woman isn’t worth dating, I don’t find her worth having sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:34 PM
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The barrier for sex isn’t low for women. They risk pregnancy and other risks that men don’t face. And as you yourself have said, even if you’re a “broke, uneducated Joe” with a nice dick, the barrier to sex is low.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:11 AM
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Women are more angered when denied sex than men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:35 AM
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That view of sex is unfortunately very common in this subreddit. I try to call it out as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:00 PM
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This seems like common sense lol. I don’t get why OP frames sex as something only men are vying for and that women are not supposed to desire
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 07:57 PM
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I’m not saying men don’t have higher sex drives. But you’re delusional if you think men can’t live without sex or that women don’t need men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:35 PM
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Although they may have different dating problems, they pale in comparison to men’s struggles and having much lower sex drives they do not need men the way men need women. Are you really saying that men “need” women because of our sexual desires? Or that women are so indifferent to sex that they don’t “need” it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:30 PM
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While men can put up with hot women with no morals when they get sex not many people want to be with someone like that long term. Excuse me? What on earth makes you think that men will tolerate a relationship with a woman who’s a terrible person, just because she’s hot and he’s having sex? That’s demonstrably false. And what makes you think women don’t overlook poor qualities in men just because they’re sexually attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:16 PM
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My point is that people become friends with other people regardless of gender, race, etc. and don’t seek to make friends of a specific gender or race. Nobody sets out to “make” friends with the other gender
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:37 PM
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Most men don’t seek out friendships with women specifically, the same way men don’t typically seek out friendships with black or Hispanic people specifically. If you become friends, you become friends. And no, most men aren’t seeking casual sex to the point that they put on a show for women and meticulously plan their movements around them. That’s a misandrist lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:19 PM
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I’m glad to see most women here are calling out OP for how he frames sex. He seems to think sex is something women are inherently averse to, and that they only have sex when there’s something that “seals the deal.” I also hate his use of the phrase “made you go through with it” as if sex is something women have to grit their teeth about and do out of compulsion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 04:20 PM
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I hate how OP seems to think that casual sex is something women never want to do unless there’s something that “seals the deal,” or that women are the ones who necessarily “choose” a man. It’s a very lopsided view of sex, and your comment seems to testify that it isn’t even accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 04:16 PM
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I’ve found the opposite to be true: the more physically attractive a girl is, the more carnal she is. Maybe it doesn’t have to do with looks 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:54 PM
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This. The “Madonna whore” complex is a direct consequence of purity culture and its ridiculous teachings.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:51 PM
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Women are not a monolith. Some women have insanely high sex drives all the time, some don’t feel strong propensity to sex unless in a relationship, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:46 PM
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There exists a dumb notion that women are more “holistic” or “morally superior” when it comes to being attracted to the other sex, and men are just shallow and focused on looks. But this is demonstrably false. Women tend to neglect a man’s personality if he passes a certain physical appearance threshold. And a man can be as nice, thoughtful, and intellectually stimulating a possible, but if he’s too unattractive he won’t succeed in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:53 PM
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And there seems to be a large increase in the number of female teachers who sexually prey upon their underage male students.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:57 PM
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OP thinks that men are innately carnal and perverted by nature, but women are innately angelic and morally upright when it comes to sex. So she can’t fathom the idea of a woman being a pervert. It’s pure sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:56 PM
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Because women aren’t asexual, angelic beings with no carnal and sexual desires. And women can be just as perverted, lewd, and carnally enslaved as men. Stop framing male sexuality as inherently perverted, but female sexuality as totally moral and ethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:47 PM
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Using this “logic,” women should also cheat because biologically and evolutionarily, women (and the females of various animal species) also had incentives to sleep with multiple partners. Also, it’s dumb to argue that men separate their emotions from sex. If that were true, then men’s affairs wouldn’t result in men falling in love with their mistresses. And most people who cheat, men and women alike, do so for emotional reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:12 AM
6

Are you saying that male sexuality is driven by looks and shallow measures of attraction, but female sexuality conversely is morally superior and more “mature”? Hard disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 06:15 AM
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Are you saying that the way women process sexual attraction and the ways women are attracted to men is more “moral” or superior to the way men process sexually/are attracted to women? Nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 06:07 AM
1

I’ve never had a debate with someone on Reddit lol. I really can’t take him seriously, in all honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:11 AM
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His
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 07:14 PM
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I’m not disagreeing with you, but what evidence do you have that women go crazy and turn into monsters without sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:51 PM
1

That comment doesn’t quite capture reality very accurately, believe it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:19 PM
0

I've even heard the advice given between males to "rub one out before a major decision", so it's obviously impairing y'all's judgement. Um, yeah, this is meant to be a joke. Men are not perpetually horny and walking around with perpetual erections. Please don’t reinforce these lies about male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:06 PM
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As a man, I’ve never understood the claim that PNC automatically “clears” our minds from being clouded by sexual urges. It definitely results in an immediate drop in sexual interest, but I cannot, for the life of me, fathom this idea that our judgment is constantly clouded by sexual desires until we nut. It’s absolutely untrue and an extreme exaggeration.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:01 PM
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The opposite is also true. Why do you think physically attractive men can be jerks or treat people like shit but still enjoy attention from women, but unattractive guys who possess great qualities and traits are ignored by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 01:03 AM
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This is the heart of the issue. OP (and by extension the red pill ideology itself) ignores the fact that men are also required to consent to sex in order for sex to happen. The idea that men’s consent is “implied” is purely false.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:56 PM
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This is such a ridiculous discussion. Both women and men choose to have sex. Men must also give consent, not just women. If one party doesn’t want to use BC, and the other party doesn’t care, then they’re both responsible for the act. Men aren’t dumb animals who have no agency or ability to distinguish between right and wrong. Putting the blame on one party is ridiculous, whether you blame only women or only men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:53 PM
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Sex is a need for married women as well, not just married men. And almost nobody wants “obligation” sex. No sex would be preferable for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:49 PM
7

EXACTLY. If OP was consistent, he’d shame the “chad” men for having sex, since sex is so much easier for them to access.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:39 AM
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Women don’t “control the sexual marketplace.” This dumb lie has completely permeated the modern discourse of sex and relationships. Men aren’t dumb animals who are enslaved to their sexual desires, and are just as capable of turning down sex. And likewise women aren’t exactly the angelic, non-sexual, non carnal beings that this claim portrays them to be. Men have just as much influence in the “sexual marketplace.” If OP was consistent, he’d shame the “chad” men for having sex, since sex is so mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:38 AM
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Good point about how women who are raised under purity culture end up struggling to enjoy their sexuality. Their desire for sex, something beautiful and natural, essentially gets tainted by bullshit “chastity” teachings.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 09:58 PM
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Women are also free to enjoy their sexuality and sexual desires in the west as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:55 PM
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Most women struggle to find men who are good lovers, so when a woman finds a man who can satisfy her carnal desires, she’ll latch onto him and won’t let go.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:19 AM
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OP’s hypothetical isn’t divorced from reality, as it’s a totally plausible scenario. It just seems a little exaggerative for a gas station convenience store lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 01:02 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 12:59 AM
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Most men are so relationship starved that even promiscuous, carnal-minded women seem attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:15 PM
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It’s literally as simple as that lol. Women want dick, and if it weren’t for the social pressures and other factors that preclude them from enjoying causal sex as easily as men, they’d pursue it more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:21 PM
1

If the woman is attractive and appealing, that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 11:55 PM
2

Yes. Women’s sexual pleasure is now commonly addressed, so women are definitely having more casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:27 PM
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Only attractive women have unlimited options, dude. Not all women or women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:25 PM
8

This is such a good point. People always claim men have a harder time getting laid, but they only have difficulty when it’s women they find attractive. Otherwise, getting laid isn’t that hard for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:24 PM
2

Will AI boyfriends be better in bed? That’s also an important factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:46 PM
2

Women who have sex regularly won’t be able to go long without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 12:59 PM
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Agreed. I hate how society frames men as pathetic clowns who are desperate for sex (something that doesn’t even really matter in the long run) and women as being able to “manipulate” men using sex. It’s unbelievably degrading. But this is the fault of those men who actually are such clowns.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 12:58 PM
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Um, no, why would any man want to date a low value woman? That’s demonstrably false.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:17 PM
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Women are also visual. You are dead wrong if you think a man’s physical appearance doesn’t matter to a woman (if anything it’s seems more important than vice versa) and that Christian Grey’s extremely good looks didn’t play a role in women obsessing and fawning over him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 01:38 PM
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But of course this doesn’t apply to certain men; they could easily get many yes’s. Also a woman who’s a 5 or less will definitely not see that much success
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:29 PM
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One time I was called a “simp” because I believed the credibility of rape accusations, even though the evidence was undeniable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:16 PM
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You made the same post a few days ago and got rightfully criticized for how deranged your take was. Why are you doubling down?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:03 PM
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How so? Unattractive women can’t get laid as easily as attractive ones. And if a woman has poor qualities or traits, most men won’t bother being near her, let alone have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:40 AM
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I think that because most men are starved for attention/romance, when a man and a woman start off as FWBs, the man ends up wanting more than just sex and desires a serious relationship, whereas the woman is only interested in satisfying her carnal pleasure. It’s a tale as old as time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:59 AM
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It’s also been found that many women dishonestly report having a lower amount of sexual partners, whereas men dishonestly report having a higher body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:56 AM
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What makes you say women aren’t looking for sex? Many do, just as many men are looking for serious relationships. Women just have higher standards for who they want to fuck: he has to be good looking, good in bed, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:31 AM
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It seems that OP can’t fathom the idea of a woman only wishing to enjoy carnal pleasure without committing to a relationship. It’s far more common than society likes to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:26 AM
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Oh look, another post about how men constantly pursue sex unsuccessfully because we’re supposedly horny animals, but women conversely have no hard time getting laid because again, men are horn dogs. Such a riveting discussion. 🙄 Also, this isn’t true for good looking men. They seem to have no problem getting laid. And likewise, unattractive women have a hard time getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:21 AM
1

I definitely recommend it!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:16 PM
2

The worst stereotype perpetuated by prostitution is that sex is something only desired by men, but something that women don’t innately desire and only see as a means to an end. And that while men are carnal animals who “need” sex, women are conversely indifferent to sex and pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:00 PM
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I agree. Women of course lust after male celebrities, but it also seems that female celebrities are mostly followed and lusted after by other women. If you went to a Taylor Swift concert, the vast majority of the audience would constitute women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:59 AM
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The topic of how the female orgasm has been shaped by evolution is explored in the book What Do Women Want. It discusses how, in many species of primates and other animals, the females have evolved to have multiple orgasms and multiple male sexual partners, for various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:46 AM
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Agreed. I’m surprised no one else pointed this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 10:41 PM
8

That’s the most subjective comment I’ve seen in this entire post
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 10:39 PM
8

Sex is a need for women as well, it’s not a male-only need. Framing sex as a male-only need is a grave oversimplification
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:40 PM
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Sex isn’t something that women “provide” men with, sex is a mutually satisfying act that both partners render unto each other. Framing sex as one-sided is a serious flaw in the discourse of modern relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:37 PM
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A big part of why women do porn is also because of excitement, the opportunity to have limitless sex, and the pleasure and gratification of exhibiting themselves. It’s plainly incorrect to say that it’s just about money or being coerced.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 04:51 PM
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This is an oversimplification of society and doesn’t take into account a great deal of other factors
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 01:08 AM
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Still doesn’t mean that men aren’t equally agreeing to sex. They’re still choosing to partake. They have the capacity to refuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 12:40 AM
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Please read my comment again, and repeatedly, until it starts making sense
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 10:47 PM
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If more men stopped vying for causal sex then yes, they can control it. I just wish more men realized this and stopped being so focused on sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 10:25 PM
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Yes, you’re naive. Men can absolutely turn down sex, and they do. Men’s consent isn’t automatically assumed. When a woman and a man engage in sex, both are making the decision to partake in the act, both are saying “yes.” To assume that men’s consent in always implied is plainly idiotic. And why are you assuming that all sex is propositioned by the man?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 10:13 PM
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In consensual sex, men and women BOTH decide when sex occurs. Why are you assuming that men aren’t also making the decision to partake?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 10:08 PM
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And what would that be, exactly? Love and romance?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 09:28 PM
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Women don’t control access to sex. This is yet another myth that has been propagated by pseudo relationship experts and bullshit podcasts about relationships and society
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 09:27 PM
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None of those involve “chasing” women in the way the way OP described. The examples you gave are of animals fighting each other for control of the females for the express purpose of propagating their offspring and spreading their seed. Modern human dating is nothing like that. “Chasing” women in the human context means making a fool of yourself for a woman who obviously never wants anything to do with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 02:18 AM
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What are you even talking about? I’ve never heard of any animal species doing this, let alone all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 01:39 AM
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No, most men don’t navigate through life with the express purpose of pursuing sex, just like most men aren’t rapists. This dumb trope is a conflation of the scumbag men who treat women a certain way or do certain things with the express purpose of later having sex. And of course “Chads” do better in this regard, they’re physically more attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:59 PM
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Chasing women is easily the most degrading and dehumanizing thing for men, and it’s been completely normalized and even expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:51 PM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:38 PM
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Lol then why do women indulge in sex toys, erotica, and porn fantasies?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:31 PM
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Women absolutely go to strip clubs, but other forms of sexual entertainment seem to be more popular among women: sex toys, erotica, internet porn, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:29 PM
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nope
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 05:29 PM
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Yes that’s also true. What’s especially interesting is that many medieval and ancient civilizations/cultures portrayed women to be the carnal, libidinous gender. But if course in more recent times female sexuality has been forcibly repressed and mitigated
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 04:26 PM
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I agree. As I said, men seem to reinforce and uphold this trope quite a bit, which is unfathomable to me. They’re literally degrading themselves without even realizing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:53 PM
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The root cause of this is that society paints men as perpetually horny and desperate for sex, but women conversely as indifferent to sex or without carnal pleasures. It’s always been a trope that I’ve hated, and double standards like this are only a fraction of the societal issues this trope causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:28 PM
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Yes. Society frames men as sex starved and many men reinforce this trope. I’ve always hated it, because it paints men as insatiable animals who “need” carnal pleasure, but women conversely don’t “need” sex and can live without carnal pleasure. It degrades men and elevates women to a status of moral superiority. And it makes me sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:25 PM
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False
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 05:57 AM
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I cannot stand when people say sex for women is more about “emotions” but for men it’s purely carnal. Society has demonized men and elevated women in terms of morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 05:53 AM
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Good comment. I’m glad someone actually put it this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 05:52 AM
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Are you insinuating that male sexuality is inherently predatory and perverted but that female sexuality is more “superior” or “mature”? Nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:56 PM
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Women need to understand that men aren’t perpetually horny 24/7 and that they shouldn’t always rely on men to satiate women’s carnal desires. It’s offensive and degrading that they would even think we’re always down to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 11:56 PM
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It’s extremely depressing that society demands men act like dumb animals who are easily manipulated by sex. There’s literally nothing more dehumanizing and degrading than that trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 11:54 PM
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Many women become straight up unpleasant or rude if a man doesn’t want to have sex with them. Society has degraded men by portraying us as perpetually horny, so if a man doesn’t want to have sex for whatever reason, women take it as a personal insult. When in reality we just aren’t the perpetually horny beasts that society caricatures us as.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 11:53 PM
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It is wrong for a man to cheat emotionally, just as it’s wrong for a woman to cheat physically. It isn’t complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:00 AM
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I don’t believe you. Either you’re lying about your friends’ physical appearances, or you’re lying about how men react to your friends asking them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:34 PM
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I highly doubt your friends are physically and getting rejected. Most men would love to be pursued by attractive women, and the remaining men are gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:31 PM
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Number 3 is ridiculous. It’s illogical to suggest that more men have casual sex than women, the numbers have to match. And it’s pretty dumb to assume that women somehow aren’t carnal or perverted or have such desires, as if they’re “better” than men or more moral when it comes to sex. That being said, causal sex isn’t good for anyone and even most men would want something more than just the act of sex itself (especially if they’re interested in an LTR).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:30 PM
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It makes him feel more confident because men live to feel wanted and desired. Who doesn’t? OP has no clue what she’s talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 09:46 PM
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That’s probably the case lol. And OP is too foolish to realize that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 09:45 PM
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Exactly my thoughts lol. Those men had options and didn’t find OP’s friends to be attractive. But OP foolishly thinks it’s because men don’t like to be pursued. 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 09:26 PM
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Men feel way more unwanted and undesired than women typically do, so of course we love the feeling of being wanted and chased by women. OP is a clown and doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 09:22 PM
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OP is a woman who has absolutely zero knowledge about men and relationships. I’m almost convinced she’s a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 09:22 PM
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Out of all the ridiculous posts I’ve seen on this subreddit (and there have been many), this one is one of the worst. You are a woman who has absolutely no knowledge of how men think and act, and I doubt you’ve ever even been in a serious relationship. Most men would love to be pursued and there is nothing more appealing to a man than a woman who expresses genuine desire for him. Especially in modern society, where men almost always feel unattractive and unwanted by the other sex. How in God’s g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 09:21 PM
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We want to feel desired and wanted by our partners, to be accepted for who we are (and no attempts to change us), and we want to be able to be vulnerable and feel emotionally secure/safe. I’d say those are good starting places
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:39 PM
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Thank you. One of the things that society has done (and what OP is doing) that I deeply despise is characterize female sexuality as “superior” to male sexuality, as if female sexuality is “mature” and based on emotions and mentality, but male sexuality is purely carnal and focused on the physical. It’s degrading nonsense and harms both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:57 PM
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I’ve straight up never even heard of her name before a few days ago, when a bunch of people on this subreddit started quoting her as if she’s a household name and as if her books are well known and positively regarded. I agree with your analysis: from what I’ve seen, she portrays men as foolish and easy to control/manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:59 AM
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Correct. The people who maintain this trope are unintentional elevating women to a status of superiority and relegating men to a status of inferiority. And men who do this don’t even realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:18 AM
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And the worst part is that most men don’t share this sentiment at all. They have no problem with the infantilizing way society portrays their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:05 AM
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It’s definitely normal, especially among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:38 AM
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The belief that male sexuality is perverted, carnal, and centered on physical pleasure but that female sexuality is somehow pure, literary, mature, centered on emotional connections, etc. is degrading and false. Women can absolutely have sexual feelings for someone they haven’t gotten to know yet, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they want to sleep with that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:37 AM
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Because all men only want casual sex and have no desire for an actual relationship or only what to have sex in a serious relationship. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:59 PM
8

Exactly. I hate how people hear the term “dead bedroom” and automatically assume that it’s a low libido woman and a high libido man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:11 PM
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You’re absolutely right about the r/DeadBedrooms subreddit having a significant number of sexually frustrated wives/girlfriends. They regularly do polls on that subreddit, and almost 40% of the high libido people on the subreddit are women. And you’re spot on about how high libido men who pressure their wives for sex are literally working against themselves and achieving the OPPOSITE of what they want. The problem is that society frames sex as something husbands “need” but wives have to “give,” …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:58 PM
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Women don’t control access to sex. Men are just as responsible for sex happening. Sex is not something that men are always down for, and mens’ consent isn’t inherently assumed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:47 AM
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Good points. Men crave intimacy way more than they crave sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:24 AM
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It’s not a Herculean task. Please don’t conflate people on Reddit with the male population at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:24 AM
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I am getting so sick of seeing “men are horny animals whose main priority in life is having sex” posts on this subreddit. I don’t understand why the mods haven’t taken action against this pointless, tired, and contrived topic (I use the word “topic” loosely). Instead of constantly screaming “men are horny” from the rooftops, have you possibly considered that there’s more for men in life than sex? And sex probably feels more physically pleasurable for women anyway….
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:23 AM
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That bullshit has even pervaded this subreddit, to the point that the mods banned such posts. Personally I hate the societal notions and stereotypes about male sexuality, so I try to combat them as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 05:24 AM
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Why are you assuming that sex is only appealing to men, and that women inherently find it unappealing or something that only has to be done out of obligation? Where do you get the idea that this is women’s “general attitude towards sex”? This sounds like those memes where guys who are horrible in bed say things like “women don’t like sex, based on my experience.” They’re literally just telling on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:36 AM
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OP is relying on the stereotype that men are always 100% interested in sex, but women conversely have no interest in sex and inherently see it as a chore or duty. And that men’s sex drive isn’t impacted by emotional factors (they absolutely are). OP seriously needs to re evaluate his views on sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:32 AM
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Agreed. Men are not perpetually horny and absolutely lose interest in sex over time in a LTR, and as they get older. OP’s claim is nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:30 AM
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It’s ridiculous how OP assumes all men are always interested in sex at all times and no matter their age, and that men maintain their sex drives as they get older. This just isn’t true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:29 AM
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As a man who has interacted with men my entire life, I can guarantee you that men definitely love attention for attention’s sake, and women love attention for the sexual appeal and feeling sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:33 PM
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I don’t think having a person pretend to like you is really a meaningful advantage. Any guy can get a woman to “pretend” to like him, but again, that’s empty and meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:57 PM
1

This is 100% true. I wish more people were aware of this. Historically, women were seen as the carnal, sexually insatiable gender, and men were seen as being much more in control of their sexual desires. In fact, promiscuity in men was seen as a feminine trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:47 PM
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Also the fact that in medieval and ancient times, women were the ones seen as sexually insatiable, irrational, carnal, etc. and as such suffered great social and cultural repression.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:37 PM
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Interestingly, the studies indicate that about 25% of women have higher sex drives than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:36 PM
21

Liking sex isn’t limited to men, or a strictly male desire. That’s one of the biggest myths of modern dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 08:31 PM
6

It sounds like you’re disputing the notion that men are inherently horny animals who constantly pursue and chase after sex and carnal pleasure, on which I wholeheartedly agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:14 PM
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When I said “angelic” I meant with regards to sexuality and carnality. So women are expected to be much less sexually inclined or interested in sex than men (who are conversely portrayed as perpetually horny animals who always want sex). And women who do enjoy sex or physical pleasure are therefore shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:40 PM
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Because women aren’t the asexual, angelic beings that society makes them out to be
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:20 AM
3

Society likes to portray women as generally uninterested in sex or carnal pleasure, and extremely cautious when they do have sex. (All of that is totally false, of course). So a lot of people get surprised that many women like unprotected sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:25 PM
9

It’s especially insulting to claim that the only reason men propagated or advanced in society was because of their desire for sex. It’s not even an anthropologically accurate claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 01:36 AM
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It’s more accurate to say that men do things in order to spread their seed and propagate their progeny, and that carnal pleasure isn’t their end goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 01:34 AM
3

Women are just more sexually fluid than men. They’re just more sexually inclined, even straight women to people of the same sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:21 PM
2

This “classic study” is bullshit. It failed to take into account the fact that women face far more social, cultural and safety risks from casual sex than men. When the experiment was redesigned to account for these factors, far more women were interested in casual sex. And as you’ve already pointed out, a significant number of men declined the offers for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:49 PM
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Ah yes, us men are horny animals who are only after sex, but women are pure angels with no carnality whatsoever. A tale as old as whenever bullshit became the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:29 AM
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Exactly. The societal belief that we’re insatiable animals (which is a degrading fucking lie) is the root of this idea. And of course the likewise idea that women are holy, pure angels who’d never want to carnally fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:50 AM
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When two consenting parties agree to sex, both of them are “allowing” sex to happen. It isn’t something women “allow” to happen but men don’t, bc men aren’t horny beasts and women aren’t asexual angels. Saying that women “gatekeep” sex is stripping men of agency or their ability to decline sex, as if to say men will never turn down sex (they absolutely do). And yes of course in instances of rape/sexual assault only the perpetrator is responsible and in control of what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:15 PM
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Women don’t gatekeep sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 02:07 PM
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All people are addicted to attention. It’s not a gendered thing, dude. If men got as much attention on average then they’d be obsessed with gaining more of it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:52 AM
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I never understand how people claim men gate keep marriage/relationships. It makes no sense. If a man asks a woman out and she declines, wouldn’t that be the woman “gate keeping” the possibility of a relationship? Most interactions like this are initiated by the man, and most of those who do the accepting/declining are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:51 AM
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Even worse is when women only see you as useful for sex or aren’t interested in anything beyond carnal pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:05 PM
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Many men also aren’t interested in casual sex unless it leads to a relationship or something meaningful
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:32 PM
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It’s a misandrist lie. Society portrays us as insatiable beasts who constantly pursue sex and carnal pleasure, but that women conversely are more “moral” or less carnal/sexually inclined.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:31 PM
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I disagree. Don’t women have to go to great lengths to maintain their beauty and physical appearance? Good looking men in comparison don’t need to go through as much effort. And if anything, the world is the oyster to such men because as I said, they get all the benefits that attractive women get, as well as the benefits of being a man. And why do you assume such men don’t get as much attention of desire from the opposite sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:04 PM
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I want to be loved and desired. I don’t want a woman to be with me under any kind of compulsion or only because she “needs” me to live or have a decent life. That’s ludicrous. I also don’t really want causal sex unless it goes somewhere meaningful, like a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:01 PM
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This is 100% true. And yet everyone on this subreddit is in denial about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:36 AM
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The people who have it easiest are attractive men. They get the benefits that both genders typically enjoy. Why do you say that all relationships men enter result in a dead bedroom situation? That’s objectively untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:20 PM
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The idea that men will fuck no matter what, or that they can be easily manipulated through sex, is a degrading lie. If you treat your man poorly or don’t show him genuine desire, he won’t be interested in sex. We get upset and angry with our partners as well, and yes that precludes us from wanting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:32 PM
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So she throws your buddy pity sex every now and then, but then she goes out to fuck the men she’s actually attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:30 PM
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You obviously don’t know many couples if you think this is one sided. Just a glance at r/DeadBedrooms will make it clear that many wives feel “punished” by their husbands lack of sexual interest, and that their husbands aren’t interested in sex with them when they’re upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:28 PM
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Delusional. How can you say all men only care about sex? Of course there are men out there like that, but it’s positively stupid to claim this is a general trait. Men need relationships and love as well. Also I’m not sure where you got the idea of women not wanting sex from. Maybe they aren’t interested in sex with men they aren’t attracted to, sure, but to say women in general don’t want sex is as deranged as your point about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 11:34 PM
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Thank you for acknowledging that it is in fact insulting to men. The notion of prostitution is that sex is something we “need” or “crave,” but that women conversely don’t. It’s just one of the many societal institutions that promote the idea of men being carnal animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 09:53 PM
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Why are you assuming women don’t like sex, and only do it as a transaction?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:41 PM
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Agreed. The “men are insatiably horny sex freaks by nature” trope is about half of the posts I see on this subreddit. It’s delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:26 PM
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All of this is rooted in the idea that men are supposed to be perpetually horny, sex crazed animals who constantly pursue sex and carnal pleasure, but that women conversely are supposed to be holy, pure, and indifferent or even disgusted by sex and carnality. It degrades both genders and has wreaked seriously negative consequences for society. Of course, at some times this script was flipped, with women being seen as the horny insatiable ones and men seen as the rational sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:25 AM
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What’s funny is that biology proves that from an evolutionary standpoint, women (as well as females from various animal species) also benefit from (and have a proclivity towards) promiscuity and having multiple male partners. So does that mean women should cheat as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:18 PM
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A lot of women cheat because their physical needs aren’t being met, and a lot of men cheat because they feel unwanted or emotionally unfulfilled in their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:16 PM
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I’m interested, what studies prove this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 06:22 PM
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Replace “Men are infinitely more horny than women” with “women are not readily horny for most men, but the ones for which they are horny have sexual leverage over women”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 06:06 PM
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Women are not the “gatekeepers” of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:04 PM
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It’s also stupid that people take those ten second street interviews seriously, and conflate them with what the general population believes. All those content creators want to do is increase their social media presence and gain monetization.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:00 PM
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More specifically, most of this subreddit is dedicated to discussing how men are horny sex fiends who’ll fuck anything that moves. Seriously, like half of the posts on here are dedicated to that bullshit myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 05:31 AM
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This is the most delusional thing I’ve seen on this subreddit all week, and that is saying something. I just have to hope that you aren’t trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:31 PM
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It’s worth noting that historically, women were seen as the carnal, libidinous gender with insatiable sex drives, but men were seen as the rational, collected gender. Now the scripts are reversed, with men being seen as the horny ones and women as the less libidinous. But women are still blamed for being the “less” sexually carnal gender, and are often blamed for riling men’s sexual urges. Women are blamed either way lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 09:17 PM
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Also, why are women the “sellers” and men the “buyers”? Consensual sex involves the agreement of both parties (I wouldn’t consider prostitution to be fully consensual).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:56 PM
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Have a nice night 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 06:57 AM
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How does it make men more grounded and honest?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:44 AM
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Yeah women don’t control the market, they just use sex as leverage to get what they want from men. They also control when sex happens in a relationship. Basically every guy would want to do it on the first date, it’s up to women when they want it. No. It depends on the guy’s intentions. Are there men who just want sex? Sure. But in modern dating most men who are looking for something serious will want to put off sex until later, and in fact will lose interest if the woman wants sex after only th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:02 AM
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Copy and paste of my response to another comment: Consensual sex involves the agreement/consent of both parties. The man agrees to the act just as much as the woman; the onus isn’t on the woman to make the decision to have sex, it’s a joint decision. And if men raised their standards and didn’t go for any woman who showed them the slightest sexual attention, or didn’t have generally low standards for sex, then the ball would be in men’s court. And of course men who are attractive and successful …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 12:45 AM
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Consensual sex involves the agreement/consent of both parties. The man agrees to the act just as much as the woman; the onus isn’t on the woman to make the decision to have sex, it’s a joint decision. And if men raised their standards and didn’t go for any woman who showed them the slightest sexual attention, or didn’t have generally low standards for sex, then the ball would be in men’s court. And of course men who are attractive and successful have as easy a time of obtaining sex as attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 12:40 AM
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This opinion is posted here at LEAST once a day. It’s tiring. No, women do not “control” the sexual market, so long as we are talking about consensual sex. And if good looking men have an easy time getting laid, shouldn’t such men be criticized if they sleep around a lot, according to your own logic? The one thing I will agree with you on is that for men, sex isn’t as much about actually having physical sex, it’s much more to do with feeling sexually desirable to women. That’s an extremely overl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 11:21 PM
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From what I’ve seen, guys who promote the “men are horny animals but women are holy and pure with no sexual desires” garbage also happen to be poor lovers who can’t satisfy women sexually and don’t even understand the dynamics of sex, as you described. Coincidence? I think not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:00 AM
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Women are more selective, but not for the reason you claim. They’re selective only because they HAVE to be. They face much more risk of bodily harm, abuse/violence, etc. and and as such need to filter out men more than men filter out women. That’s the reason women typically get more matches on dating apps than men: men have far less risk to worry about and can swipe multiple women. Women don’t have that luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 04:05 AM
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Women are selective until a physically attractive man comes their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 04:01 AM
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I thought women were the ones who get turned on by dangerous or violent men? And that women find such men to be sexually attractive and arousing?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 01:46 AM
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Could you provide some of the studies? I want to use them for future reference
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 01:44 AM
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Why is this subreddit overrun with people like OP who seem determined to cast men in the worst possible light? Or frame male sexuality as something inherently carnal or inferior?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 01:41 AM
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I’m sick of men like OP degrading male sexuality and men in general. I’m a man and I won’t have sex with a woman who disgusts me, no matter how attractive she is. I don’t understand how other men don’t see how degrading and offensive this trope is, not to mention false. Stop promoting the idea that we’re so enslaved to our carnal desires that we can have sex with women we hate. I’m sick of male sexuality being seen as inferior or carnal but female sexuality being seen as superior or moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 01:39 AM
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Thank you. Lately this subreddit has been overrun with posts about how men are insatiable beasts who can have sex at the drop of a hat, who can have sex with women they hate, who are so horny that women can’t even fathom it, etc. All of this promotes the idea that men are dumb, horny animals but that women are conversely “superior” when it comes to sex. Most of these posts are ironically made by men, who don’t seem to realize how they’re literally degrading themselves and their fellow men with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 01:36 AM
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What OP is saying is unfair and disingenuous, but women don’t “control” access to sex. Consensual sex is agreed upon by both parties. It’s stupid and degrading to put the onus on only women, as if men are stripped of all agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 06:55 PM
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I don’t think society promotes the idea that women are insatiable beasts who pursue sex and carnal pleasure, but that men are innocent and holy when it comes to sex. Society promotes the opposite, actually. Your claim is disingenuous and unfair, especially when most men my age (I’m 23) are in deep pain because they can’t find meaningful relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 06:52 PM
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THANK YOU. There are certainly men whose only goal is to bed a woman, and don’t seek anything else. But to say that the default for men is to vie after no strings sex is incredibly dishonest and disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 06:50 PM
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I don’t disagree with you, but how has OP been proven false? Genuinely curious, and I again I don’t disagree with you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 04:33 PM
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False
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 04:32 PM
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Proof? Or is that your own conjecture?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 10:16 PM
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No, they never do. It’s baffling to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 09:21 PM
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Good points. The “men are so horny they will fuck anything that moves, but women are holistic, angelic beings with no interest in sex or carnal desires” trope that OP is propagating and exaggerating is delusional and degrading.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 05:15 PM
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It’s strange how men who constantly emphasize that women are borderline asexual but men will fuck anything that moves also happen to be poor lovers. Coincidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:54 PM
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And there are even more idiots who exaggerate it and deny the things that contradict it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:51 PM
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What is the point of this post? Yes, men have higher sex drives on average. So what? Why make a massive post dedicated to how men are insatiable beasts who are dominated by their desire for sex, but women are conversely far more “moral” or in control of their sexual desires, and have far less interest in carnal matters? It’s bizarre to me that other men have no problem screaming “men are horny animals and women are holy and lust-free” as loudly as they can. Don’t you see how this trope is degrad…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:48 PM
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And the female sex toy industry is worth literally billions of dollars. Not to mention internet porn and erotica geared towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:44 PM
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I agree. I don’t understand why people like OP can’t seem to shut up about men being hornier. Why does he feel the need to scream this from the rooftops? It’s so bizarre to me as a man that other men act this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:43 PM
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I also hate the notion that men just accept anything that comes out way. We have standards and seek desirable traits in women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:09 PM
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While sex is definitely an important part of relationships, the idea that all a man needs to feel content in a relationship is frequent sex is delusional. We also need to feel loved, valued, respected, and a whole host of other emotional needs. For decades the discourse around what men need in relationships has been centered on sex, and this has had negative ramifications for women and men both.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:08 PM
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And I believe there is also a considerable number of women who aren’t keen on dating virgin men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 05:49 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 05:33 PM
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Yeah, I hate how people like OP say “men are visual” as if women aren’t. Or that women are somehow more mature or sophisticated when it comes to choosing a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 01:37 PM
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“She can be absolutely mediocre but if she’s having sex with him whenever he wants then he’ll be content.” I don’t know what immature dudes you’ve been dating, but this is categorically false for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 01:36 PM
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A lot of them have a very skewed perspective of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:44 PM
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*some women have easy access to sex. Not all or even most.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:59 PM
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What makes you think that women who want hookups only do so for validation? That can be true in some instances, but not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:54 PM
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Neither do most women for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:51 PM
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The problem with OP’s analogy is that it shouldn’t be “sex” it should be “dating.” And it doesn’t take into account the fact that a certain number of men get the best of both worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:59 PM
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Replace “sex” with “dating” and this analogy will work. And of course the “80/20” rule stipulates that 20% of men get the best of both worlds: a lot of water that’s healthy to drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:57 PM
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It sounds like you’re just saying women aren’t interested in a man’s physical appearance or don’t have carnal desires the way men do, and all I can say to that is that it’s ridiculous. Of course women do, most of the complaints from men in the modern dating world are that women chase after only the most attractive men and leave all other men in the dust. Women literally swoon over good looking, aesthetically pleasing men all the time; most men just don’t possess that level of physical attraction…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:03 PM
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This doesn’t apply to exceptionally attractive men, does it? Those men have the same level of options that women have in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:29 PM
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Isn’t the fact that women have such high standards for men’s physical appearance be a testament to the idea that women are the ones who lust more and do whom looks matter more?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:04 AM
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This subreddit has become a breeding ground for incel mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:40 PM
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No, it’s just that the make orgasm is so much easier to achieve than the female orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:11 PM
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Did you seriously copy and paste your asinine comment from another post? 🤦🏻‍♂️ I guess I’ll copy and paste my response to you, since it’s the same as the first time: This comment was so bad that I regret even reading it. Of course girls care about men and desire sex, and of course men care about more than just sex. I can’t fathom how poor your experiences have been to reach such a dreary, delusional conclusion. These “unpleasant truths” are just unpleasant lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:46 PM
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It’s literally every day at this point lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 08:11 PM
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I’m glad that your reserve sex only for women with whom you’re in a relationship with, but I think you’re overestimating the “men will fuck anything” trope. Such men obviously exist, but they don’t make up the majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 08:05 PM
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Men who destroy their lives because of their obsession with sex are the minority. Most men won’t ruin their lives just for some moments of pleasure. I’m sorry your partners were unfaithful to you, but your generalization is foolish at best. And of course women absolutely destroy their relationships in their pursuit of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:13 PM
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Dumb take. Men who are genuinely seeking companionship and an escape from loneliness will not be content with meaningless sex. Yes, there are men who vie after sex and are grumpy for not having any, but the “male loneliness” issue of far more complex than that for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:16 PM
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It boggles my mind how many men promote notions and stereotypes that degrade men. Don’t they feel angered or offended by the idea that they’re perpetually horny animals who constantly pursue sex? I’d imagine most women would be offended by these statements if they were reversed: “women can’t be friend with men because they’ll want to fuck them” or “all a woman needs is sex and food.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:14 PM
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Those men are just telling on themselves. If a guy said he had a hard time not sexually assaulting people, would you consider that to be a trait unique to him, or a trait that all males in general possess?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:11 PM
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I agree that it applies to race as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 01:58 PM
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This comment was so bad that I regret even reading it. Of course girls care about men and desire sex, and of course men care about more than just sex. I can’t fathom how poor your experiences have been to reach such a dreary, delusional conclusion. These “unpleasant truths” are just unpleasant lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:41 AM
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Drug and alcohol addictions, committing crimes, and not pursuing higher education are (with some exceptions) choices that are made.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:44 AM
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I hate how OP sees sex as something women provide men as opposed to something both partners provide each other
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:17 PM
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I’m sick of this notion in society that male sexuality is dirty an perverted but female sexuality is mature, holistic, or morally superior. It’s not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:44 PM
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That is absolutely ridiculous. Of course men want to feel loved and desired, and anyone who says otherwise is a liar or delusional. If I was dating a woman who had the attitude you’re describing, I’d end the relationship instantly. I’d rather die alone than be with someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:38 PM
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To clarify, you’re saying that those guys are the ones who make no sense, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:27 PM
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But those same guys always moan about women having higher standards for men’s physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 01:46 PM
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People who say “men are visual,” and imply that women aren’t are either morons or liars trying to propagate an agenda. Women are just as visual as men. How people still don’t accept that is beyond me. Men need to be much more offended by this BS dichotomy of “men are shallow horny beasts who are visually stimulated but women aren’t” and push back against it as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:30 AM
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I’m sick of hearing “men are visual” as if women aren’t. Every non asexual person is visually stimulated. Men need to be much more offended by this ridiculous notion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:28 AM
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The people who have it easiest in the dating market are physically attractive men. They control both sex and relationships as they choose, and face none of the downsides that physically attractive women have to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 03:15 PM
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Men are “easier” because sex almost invariably results in their pleasure and orgasm. This unfortunately is not true of women. Not to mention how the mechanics of penetrative sex are so different between women and men: as a man, I can’t fathom what sex is like as a woman but I would imagine being penetrated is a much more vulnerable position to be in. Not to mention the other risks women face from such sexual encounters (social, cultural, safety, etc.) that men almost never have to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:55 PM
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This is a good answer. And of course it must be noted that men aren’t always in the mood and some should likewise accept that they may be turned down by their husbands when they initiate sex (especially since women seem more offended by sexual rejection than men).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:03 AM
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It’s a tired cliché that essentially portrays women as inherently uninterested and even averse to sex and men as insatiable sex fiends. Of course, husbands are also susceptible to mental/emotional/physical barriers that prevent them from wanting sex, and wives have to accept this when they want sex but their husbands don’t. My favorite example of this is the show Married….With Children where Peggy constant initiates sex and has to constantly accept her husband’s rejection of her sexual advances.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:01 AM
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Yeah I hate OP’s ridiculous dichotomy of men wanted only sex but women conversely being family oriented and having the moral high ground when it comes to sex and relationships. What a dumb post this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:39 PM
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I hate how OP frames men as only interested in sex, but women are the more moral and ethical gender who are much more family oriented and less sex driven. It’s degrading BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:38 PM
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Ah yes, because women are morally superior and family/child oriented, but we men are just horny animals looking for carnal pleasure, with no desire for intimacy or children. I hope my sarcasm is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:36 PM
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It isn’t the “only place on planet earth” where women are vocal about their sexual desires. Just because society has made it difficult for such women and such marriages to be normalized doesn’t mean they aren’t common. And I never said that the husband having the higher drive wasn’t more common, but if I told you that the wife has the higher libido in 30% of marriages, would you say that’s an insignificant amount? Of course not. As for the “global norm” there are societies and cultures that adhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:30 AM
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Dead Bedrooms aren’t strictly the wife losing interest in sex. Just a cursory scroll through r/DeadBedrooms will make it clear that many married women are frustrated with little or no sex in their marriages, and are desperate for advice and help. Every couple is different. Sometimes the situation improves, sometimes it doesn’t. I agree that “doing more chores” is a dumb way to improve a dead bedroom situation, but mostly because it treats sex like a transaction and almost never addresses the und…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:51 PM
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It’s strange that people always claim a woman’s looks are so important to men, but that women are conversely more “mature” when it comes to dating and selecting a man. The statistics that prove women find only the most attractive men to be worth pursuing kind of destroys that notion. And if the genders were reversed (if men deemed most women to be unattractive and only focused on 10% of them) people would use that fact to promote the idea that men are more “visual” than women. 🤦🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:44 AM
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I didn’t say the wife has the higher sex drive in the majority of marriages, I said that this is the case in many of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:12 AM
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Men who find themselves enslaved to women because of their sexual urges are beyond pathetic. I pretend they don’t even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 10:37 PM
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You realize that there are many marriages where the wife has the higher sex drive and is unsatisfied with the frequency of sex, right? Also, it’s pretty obvious when someone does things out of sincerity it when they’re only doing it with the goal of attaining some incentive. Personally, I do chores and stuff because I’m a grown adult who doesn’t expect others to carry my weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:34 PM
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He good looking and successful, so it makes some sense that he has higher standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:15 PM
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Sex is not a woman’s “source of power” because men are not horny animals with no sexual restraint.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:22 AM
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How will a robot fulfill a man’s need for love, affection, respect, intimacy, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:06 AM
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Or, maybe, because they want to have sex with someone they’re attracted to? What a dumb take.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:04 AM
4

It’s a fringe scenario for women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 06:59 PM
16

Fr I’ve literally never heard of this meme 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 02:24 PM
4

I read the same thing earlier this week. I’m also curious as to how accurate this assessment is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:58 PM
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“Women have the supply and men have the demand” isn’t true at all, since both genders seek love, romantic relationships, and a partner to whom they’re physically and emotionally attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 07:02 PM
1

So it isn’t that male productivity is driven by the desire to have sex, but rather the male drive to be productive comes from the same source, which is testosterone
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:36 PM
1

If women were hornier, there’d be more pregnancies but a woman can only get pregnant once. Whereas a horny man can impregnate countless women in a short time frame. So wouldn’t society be better off with the former?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:00 PM
1

Most of male productivity comes from our desire to have sex? What a delusional lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:58 PM
15

Exactly. Men are not driven by only sex. Our desires to feel wanted, desired, and needed are far greater.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:56 PM
1

I personally DEPSISE the “whatever” podcast and the clowns that go on it. What’s unfortunate is that it’s so pervasive on social media that clips from it pop up everywhere, even if I’m not actively searching for that content.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:38 PM
7

Probably because most men aren’t great lovers, so if a woman finds one who can satisfy her sexual needs and satiate her lust, she want to hold onto him for dear life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:05 PM
17

If casual sex was as risk-free for women, and if their physical pleasure was as easily guaranteed, then they’d be much more desiring of causal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 07:04 PM
4

Just so you know, I only made my user flair “blue pill man” so that I could actually comment on this thread. Otherwise I’d consider myself to be without a “pill” (I’m not sure how to add a custom flair). That being said, your characterization of me is laughable and a massive projection. I can call out false notions and stereotype that demonize men because they do exactly that: demonize and harm men and paint us as horrible. Not because I wish to gain favor from anyone else. This shouldn’t be a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:50 AM
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What makes you think I want to be “rewarded” for anything? Maybe I’m just sick of men being degraded and portrayed in a negative light. You should, too
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:36 AM
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Precisely. OP doesn’t seem to realize that all these problems can literally be prevented by men refusing causal sex. But he’ll probably say something like “men can’t help but pursue sex” to defend his double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 11:17 PM
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Yes, but according to this line of thought, men are the ones who are incapable of moral behavior, but women are capable of it, hence why they say women are more to blame. Which is why it’s degrading and infantilizing men, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 10:45 PM
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This is absolute nonsense. Men who say that are actually insulting and degrading MEN, but they’re too stupid to even realize it. They’re literally saying that men are just horny animals who mindlessly fuck any woman they can, but women conversely are morally and ethically superior and only cheat in ways that are “emotional” or mental, not physical/carnal. What’s astonishing is that even though they’re obviously degrading men (and elevating women), they actually use this to put the blame on women…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 10:32 PM
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I never understand this dichotomy of “women want relationships but men want sex.” Ideally we all should seek a relationship that culminates in sexual chemistry, which is what most men (excluding creeps) really desire. And trust me, there are definitely women who use men for sex, especially given how men tend to not be great lovers with sexual prowess and finding one that is would be like striking gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:53 PM
5

Please tell me you’re joking
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 10:05 PM
21

It means that he thinks men are horny animals who women can easily manipulate and “control” using sex. It’s quite literally the most offensive and degrading thing towards men imaginable. And it’s also a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 09:25 PM
6

Women don’t “hold all the sexual power.” This is a myth that degrades/dehumanizes men and vilifies women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 09:22 PM
7

I’d be surprised if men didn’t want romantic gestures, like gifts, poems, declarations of love, etc. Most men I know would crave and love such things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:28 PM
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I’m also confused as to why OP acts as if such men deserve sympathy or concern. They’re borderline predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:27 AM
7

Exactly. I don’t understand why so many people claim that while women seek relationships, men are only motivated by sex. It’s a delusional dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:26 AM
16

No, because men who do this are immoral and borderline predatory. Why would you even suggest that we feel sorry for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:25 AM
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Because you are a man, not a drooling dog. I cannot even tell you how many times I’ve used this analogy to describe men who desperately vie for a woman’s attention and love. It’s the most pathetic thing imaginable, yet society has normalized men degrading themselves in this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:29 PM
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Food, water, and shelter are things we cannot physically live without. We can live without love, emotional connections, feeling desired, etc. but it would make life much harder. Desperation is seen as bad because it makes the desperate person come across as emotionally weak and undesirable. Men especially should never desperately vie for the attention of a woman, it’s nothing if not degrading.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:27 PM
2

It’s certainly true that many modern women are unable to enjoy sexual/carnal pleasure because of men’s physical or emotional incapabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 11:55 AM
3

Why do you care if women have lots of options?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:01 AM
6

The fact that many women keep around men who can satisfy their sexual needs but never intend on pursuing a serious relationship with them is very common and something that needs to be discussed more
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:37 PM
8

Very well written and concise. I especially like how you pointed out the “men will fuck anything with a pulse” trope is actually degrading men. it is beyond me to understand why most men propagate notions that degrade themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:32 PM
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Not true. Are women able to get pleasurable free sex that leads to her orgasm any time she wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:24 PM
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For centuries, women’s sexuality had been denied, portrayed as nonexistent (but also simultaneously as insatiable), demonized, and just plainly lied about. Women pursuing sex, masturbation etc. is seen as an abandonment of those stereotypes and false notions. Also, the adage that “any woman can obtain sex any time she wants” isn’t really accurate, just as the belief that “women are insatiable harlots by nature” isn’t quite accurate either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 09:24 PM
1

What’s funny is that in the nature of both humans as well as other nonhuman animals, females absolutely mate with several males and have been doing so as evolutionary development. Does the red pill take that into consideration?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 09:07 PM
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I think it’s more accurate to say that women just have much higher standards for a man’s physical appearance. This is clearly evident from the data of dating apps and websites. And yet society says that men are the shallow, visually stimulated ones who prioritize a woman’s looks above all else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 08:32 PM
2

Those men are struggling with emotional pain, loneliness, and feeling unattractive and undesirable in the eyes of women. Not because they aren’t having physical intercourse. Arguably that’s what men desire more than anything: feeling wanted and desired. Sex is just a façade for those feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:08 PM
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For weak willed men, perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:55 PM
3

I’ve never met a man who’s “suicidal” from not having sex. Sex isn’t unimportant for men, but the way you describe men to be is ridiculously degrading and exaggerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:21 PM
4

Men don’t “need” sex. Nobody does.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:19 PM
13

It’s always astonished me how many men have no problem essentially enslaving themselves to women. We can absolutely starve women of sex, attention, etc if it weren’t for the fact that so many men don’t find the trope of being at the whims of women to be degrading and dehumanizing, which it is. Hopefully in the future more men will realize this and a successful dick strike can take place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:17 PM
2

All these comments are ridiculous. Men are not insatiably horny animals who can’t forego sex, that’s a degrading lie. Most men simply aren’t attractive in the eyes of most women, because women’s standards for a man’s physical appearance are borderline delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:14 PM
8

It depends on the man. Some men can’t seem to get women off of them, and some women (especially rude or unlikeable women) won’t succeed in keeping a man interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:41 PM
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“Women don’t have sex for the sake of sex.” Where did you get this idea from? Women tend to be more averse to casual sex than men (they face more risks from it) but who says they never have sex just for pleasure or as a fling? It’s a pretty common occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:39 PM
4

They get to learn how society has trained women to act like a “prize” that men need to “win.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:02 AM
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What a load of shit. I’m a 23 year old man and I can tell you that most of us don’t think “pussy” is important compared to other factors. We want to feel loved, wanted, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:32 AM
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This is a stupid take. You’re acting as if women are more moral or poetic when it comes to selecting male partners. That’s delusional. Women ABSOLUTELY crave a tall, physically attractive man who can please them sexually. And of course one who’s thoughtful and kind, but those factors only matter AFTER a man passes a certain physical appearance threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:31 AM
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Women seem to have far higher standards, place their standards for physical attraction very high, demand that men be good in bed, etc. So I’d say women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:29 AM
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Women expect men to basically worship them and pursue them no matter what, and some women even think that acting distant or uninterested towards a man will actually make him want her even more. Yes, really. Some popular books about relationships (that are targeted towards women) literally promote this mentality. 🤦🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:27 AM
1

This is degrading nonsense. No, men don’t always develop sexual feelings for their female friends. And who says women are immune from having sexual feelings about their male friends? I think a lot of times men do erroneously believe that their female friends are into them, but that’s more to do with the fact that their female friends are more concerned with their emotional needs and problems, which makes men think that they’re emotionally attached or attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:37 PM
1

Good point. The evidence from dating apps and websites proves that women’s standards are so high that they find most men unattractive, whereas men seem to have far lower beauty standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:26 PM
1

I’m so glad to see that many people are criticizing OP for claiming that women aren’t visually stimulated. When in reality, they seem to prioritize a man’s physical appearance even more than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 03:02 AM
2

If you want to say that women aren’t as easily aroused as men, then say, “women are not as easily aroused as men.” Saying “women are not as visual as men” implies that physical appearance really plays no role in their attraction to a man, or that they’re willing to overlook a man’s physical appearance. Obviously, neither one is true, and obviously, all non-asexual people are “visual.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:37 AM
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Thank you so much for this comment. It frustrates me beyond words when people act as though men are “visual” and only after a woman’s physical appearance, but women are supposedly more “mature” and superior when it comes to finding a partner and as such don’t find physical appearance as important. I’d argue that women place an importance on men’s physical appearance even MORE than men. Literally every human being is “visual” unless she/he is asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:27 AM
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