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Question For WomenArmariumEspata/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 02:19 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:38 PM
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Exactly. If an unattractive dude approaches a woman, she’ll see it as a nuisance at best and harassment at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:48 PM
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Women also attach their self worth to sex and how sexual desirable they are. And women are just as extremely eager and easily excitable when it comes to men who are physically attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:48 PM
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Your grandmother sounds like a disgusting cretin who would defend your rapist (if you were ever raped)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:18 AM
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“Women who pursue casual sex are stupid and only looking for attention.” Maybe they actually enjoy having sex? Maybe their horniness makes them dumb and willing to take risks? Maybe women don’t have sex just for “attention” purposes?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 10:51 PM
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I agree with everything you said except that sex is more “emotional” for women. The whole reason many women are averse to casual sex is due to the lack of guarantee of pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:51 AM
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I agree. All the comments to your post are promoting the idea that men are only interested in sex but women are not and even inherently averse to it. It’s a sickening concept
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 06:46 PM
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Who says women want relationships more than men? Or that women are focused on relationships but men are perverts who only focus on sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 06:45 PM
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OnlyFans preys on men’s emotional needs and their desire to be in a relationship, hence why lonely men are so gravitated to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:22 PM
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That’s sad
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 08:17 PM
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For me, love and sex are intertwined. It’s like asking would I want ice cream without the flavor. Why isn’t this question directed to women? Would they want pleasurable orgasmic sex, or sexless love? I would imagine most would prefer the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 12:58 AM
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Horny women can be truly disgusting and know absolutely no boundaries. I’m sorry your boyfriend had to deal with their taunts and sexual harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:48 PM
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This guy is a clown.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:33 PM
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….your sister gave you oral sex advice when she found out how big you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:44 PM
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It’s also disturbing to frame sex as something only men desire but something that women only reluctantly participate in, which is precisely what the whole “women make men wait” trope promotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 03:48 PM
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I also despise the word choice of “making men wait.” It frames sex as something only men want and that women reluctantly participate in, which is one of the most nauseating things I’ve ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 03:46 PM
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Many women have no problem with casual sex or using certain men to fulfill their sexual needs, while pursuing “better” men for relationship/marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:02 PM
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Of course they can. But men also want romantic love which fellow men can’t provide obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:18 PM
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Men don’t exclusively want sex. Men want to feel loved and desired, to be treated with dignity, to have a purpose, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:52 PM
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I believe younger women (18 to late twenties) cheat more, due to their desire for sexual novelty
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:31 AM
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That we aren’t constantly capable of an erection or sexual prowess, and that just because you want to go for three more rounds doesn’t mean that we’re physically/mentally capable of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:14 PM
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Correction: you never want to fuck as much until you meet a physically attractive man. Then y’all become insatiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:13 PM
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Child sexual abuse
/r/MensRights05/09/24 06:40 PM
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…..okay, and sex isn’t the only thing me want either
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 12:53 AM
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If you think women don’t have sex for the sake of pleasure and orgasm then you’re utterly delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 12:09 AM
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What a dumb statement. Women would easily overlook a man’s financial situation if he’s good looking. If anything, women are looks diggers more than they are gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:09 PM
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Only men who have never been sexually desired by a woman would day something that ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:08 PM
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Then you’re a clown.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:00 PM
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What’s interesting is that many premodern civilizations taught the very opposite: that women were the insatiable ones and men were the ones who had greater control and restraint. This theme was pretty common across cultures, from medieval Europe to the Old Testament.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 03:11 PM
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I’ve always said this and I’ll continue to say it: female sexuality is considered to be demure, coy, wholesome and “pure,” whereas male sexuality is considered to be dirty, perverted, carnal, and inferior. It’s incredibly misandrist and anyone who has interacted with women in any meaningful way knows that it’s totally false.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:58 PM
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Dating apps are so tough for the average man. I seriously wish men would just boycott them entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:51 PM
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Do those clowns not realize that women also watch porn and that women are literally the main consumers of the sex toy industry?
/r/MensRights31/08/24 04:12 PM
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The average woman wears much more makeup, places much more attention to how she dresses, and has more social media savvy than the average man. If women didn’t, then they would be much less attractive to the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:26 PM
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But if women had the higher sex drive and men were more selective about who they had sex with, then men would be the ones who are more discerning and will only have sex with (and procreate with) a small number of women. Pregnancies arising from rape and neglectful sex would be non existent. It’s not like women can get pregnant on their own
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:25 PM
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Congratulations, you’ve just won the “most delusional comment of the day” award. 🏆
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:58 PM
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“Women have a sex trading drive and only have sex for transactional purposes.” People like you are the reason why the “red pillers” are seen as the epitome of stupidity and ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:56 PM
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You’d be astonished by how many posts in this subreddit are just about how men are evil perverts who only use women for sex. It’s infuriating
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:38 PM
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Agreed. OP has a horrible view of relationships and men in general. Better if she avoided relationships and people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:26 PM
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Oh great, another post that frames men as horny and carnal but women as borderline asexual
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:20 PM
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Incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:42 AM
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LMAOOOOO Is this the same dude who is obsessed with the idea that women don’t like sex, posting from one of his countless alt accounts?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:40 AM
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This comment is 100% spot on. Anybody who downvotes this is a brainwashed clown who gets their geopolitical views from TikTok.
/r/MensRights26/08/24 06:31 PM
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Right, because women definitely aren’t looks focused. LMAOOO
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:20 PM
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The trope that most men on dating apps are only looking for sex is just false. The vast majority of men on dating apps are looking for relationships and partners. Are there creeps that need to be filtered out? Of course. But not nearly as much as you make out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:19 PM
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You wrote an entire post to insult yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:42 PM
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Why on earth would they be insulted by being approached? I’ve never heard of a man being insulted or annoyed by a woman approaching him, unless she’s annoying or doesn’t take “no” for an answer
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:42 AM
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Great comment. Women want to be seen as more than their physical appearance. Men want to be seen as attractive and aesthetically pleasing, and not just a tool or a means to an end. It’s almost like people have common goals and don’t want to be seen in such a binary way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:25 PM
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It’s absolutely a fallacy and absolutely an exaggeration.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:02 AM
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Anyone who judges a woman for being forward and for initiating advances is weird. You’d think men would enjoy being pursued and desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:54 PM
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Unless the woman has sexual or romantic feelings for the man, I don’t see why men and women can’t be friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:03 PM
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Most men don’t approach women with the mere goal of having sex with them, rather to date and be in relationships with them. And anyone who says women don’t have sex drives or pursue sex with certain men is living in some fantasyland.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:00 PM
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You made this exact post less than a week ago, and you’re still assuming that sex is something women “allow” men to do or something that men “do” to women. I’ll just paste what I responded last time: That’s one of those subtle things that indicate how the idea of women being inherently asexual (or even averse to sex) is so deeply internalized by most people. Like you said, it’s insinuating that sex is something only men want but women “give” or “let happen” to themselves. Other examples of state…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:19 PM
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I’m not a woman so I won’t be able to understand everything a woman experiences, but I would imagine that it takes a lot more trust to be penetrated by another person than to penetrate another person, and as such men can be more open to sex earlier on. Sex is just experienced so differently for women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:25 PM
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Unfortunately that’s false.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:42 PM
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Are you saying that men instantly want sex when they see a woman? And that female sexuality isn’t carnal or lewd?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:20 PM
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Wanting sex 1-3 times a week sounds like a man’s libido
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:37 PM
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It’s truly infuriating
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:20 PM
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The worst part of this whole dialogue (and with people like Prager in general) is that they frame sex as something women are innately averse to and don’t really desire, but that men are innately wired for. It’s sickening. What’s funny is that Dennis has been married three times. I’d be willing to bet money that none of his wives have ever been sexually pleasured by this clown throughout the entirety of their marriages to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:33 PM
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Dennis Prager is such a vile dumbass. Not only does this moron think that women are inherently averse to sex (and that men are insatiable, of course) bur he also made a video for Prager “University” where he claimed men are so horny that we get aroused at the mere sight of store mannequins, but that women aren’t visually stimulated at all. No, I’m not joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:30 PM
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You forgot the biggest one: society has taught women that they can expect sex anytime from any man, and if a man doesn’t engage with a woman’s sexual advances, many times the woman gets angry and abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 06:57 PM
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Obviously certain men also have sexual power over women. Anybody who denies this doesn’t have any attractive male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:17 PM
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Agreed. Sexual power isn’t exclusive to women, and only a complete fool would deny that physically attractive men don’t have sexual power over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:08 PM
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You have a cartoonishly laughable view of male sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:31 PM
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Are you saying that male sexuality is inherently inferior or carnal compared to female sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:12 PM
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Why yes, young women lust after and want to fuck attractive rappers. I figured this out when I was in middle school. The fact that he spits misogynistic lyrics and treats women like crap is irrelevant to those girls. Their carnal desires cloud their judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:18 PM
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My first reaction to this post was “well, duh” My second reaction was that it’s (unfortunately) men who promote this idea, which is bizarre since they’re only insulting themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:50 PM
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Women lust after men who pass a certain physical attractiveness threshold. Ask any attractive man how the women around him act and he’ll dispel the “women don’t lust like men” myth instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:08 PM
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That first sentence alone made it impossible for me to take this post seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 06:44 PM
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“When men are horny, they will bang anything”! I already don’t take you or this post seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 06:44 PM
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Agreed. I’ve made this point before. Men are the ones who give women such a strong advantage and ability to be choosy in the dating world. If we stopped giving likes and messages to women indiscriminately, the imbalance would disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:50 PM
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The major exception is Married….With Children. I actually love the show specifically because it portrays a horny wife and a sexually disinterested husband.
/r/MensRights04/08/24 12:42 PM
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To be honest, men are the ones to blame for that. If men didn’t give out likes on dating apps so indiscriminately and if they actually had higher standards, maybe women wouldn’t get so much attention and they wouldn’t have such overinflated egos (with regards to the dating world).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:23 PM
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Of course looks are incredibly important to women, but western society has reinforced the idea that only men are shallow and concerned with a woman’s looks, whereas women are more mature and less drawn to a man’s physical appearance. Bestselling books about relationships and sex convey this exact message. It’s ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:00 PM
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While physically attractive men obviously have a much better likelihood of having sex due to women’s lust for them, the vast majority of men can also easily have casual sex or sex within a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:04 PM
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My thoughts exactly lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:59 AM
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I’m talking about the dude who would frequently post about how men are inherently horny animals but women aren’t horny or close to as horny as men. He’s post about it across multiple subreddits and complain about it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:10 AM
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Not so much now, but absolutely in the 20th century
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:30 PM
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Well yeah, loving relationships have a sexual component to them. But there’s more to a sexual relationship than just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:29 PM
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Both, of course…?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:30 PM
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It’s funny how most ancient and premodern civilizations regarded women to be the more carnally inclined gender. The Bible itself is full of women who fall prey to their sexual desires and temptations
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:55 PM
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And society teaches that men are supposed to be sexually carnal and expressive, but women are supposed to be sexually repressed and demure
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:52 PM
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Yes, men are more desperate for romantic relationships than women, hence why it seems women have more options and can afford to be choosier than (most) men. And physically attractive men can be choosier and selective since they have scores of horny women clamoring for them. This whole “women can’t fathom how horny men are” post sounds like it’s from the same dude who posted incessantly about this same trope on here months ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:31 PM
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No, I was just correcting the person to whom I responded. They seem to think that women straight up don’t pursue casual sex and the ones who do are in an extreme minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:29 PM
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Women pursue casual sex with men they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:43 PM
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The whole “men staring at women in the gym” discussion is retarded because it doesn’t address the fact that women stare at and ogle attractive men in the gym, as well as sexualize them, flirt with them, etc. And as others pointed out, the vast majority of men at the gym don’t ogle women. Will you also implement technology from women perving on men too?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:10 PM
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Please stop dehumanizing men and male sexuality. Female sexuality is far from pure and innocent.
/r/MensRights26/07/24 12:58 PM
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Dumbest thing I’ve read today. Do you realize how your comment portrays men as sex hungry beasts, but that women can’t fathom desiring sex? You’re literally engaging in the whole “men are evil perverts but women are pure angels with no carnality” bullshit that misandrists love to pull.
/r/MensRights26/07/24 12:43 PM
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Sex is a need for women as well. Stop framing sex as a male only need, when women can be just as carnal and perverted. And especially don’t say that men need sex but women need love. All that does is degrade men and paint us as “inferior”, but conversely portray women as morally “superior” and more “mature.” This is literally the “woman are wonderful” bullshit. This is exactly the kind of man-bashing that extreme feminists love to do.
/r/MensRights26/07/24 12:40 PM
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I would give negative numbers if I could. If a woman falls in love with a man and gets emotionally connected with him, she won’t just leave him on a whim for another more successful man. The “male imperative” you wrote seems to assume the only thing men find important is having sex with young women, which of course is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:06 PM
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Men are much pickier than people realize. A woman’s appearance, political views, mannerisms, etc. are all factors that men take into account, either consciously or unconsciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:31 PM
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The only girl I know for sure had a crush on me was when we were back in the 8th grade, so I can attest to this lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:30 PM
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That’s one of the reasons I despise this double standard so much. It portrays women (and female sexuality) as inherently pure, holistic, and beautiful, but it paints men (and male sexuality) as inherently disgusting, perverted, and carnal. Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:02 PM
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The title itself makes me cringe. OP is assuming that sex is something women inherently don’t desire and only do as an obligation, akin to men “having” to pay for a meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:07 PM
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Misandry encompasses the dehumanization and degradation of men as well, not just hating or having disdain for them. If I attribute negative or degrading traits to a certain race, but don’t specify that I hate them for those traits, then it would still constitute racism, even if I don’t explicitly say I hate that race.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:55 PM
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If someone told you that you’re insatiably horny to the point that it drives everything you do in life, that your sexual desires cloud your basic judgment and senses, that all you want is carnal pleasure, and that women conversely are more sophisticated and less carnally inclined…..wouldn’t you feel insulted or offended?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:29 PM
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It’s literally the most misandrist take imaginable. And those very same men are the ones who complain about misandry, without even realizing that they themselves are promoting the worst form of misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:45 PM
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Even a cursory scroll through r/DeadBedrooms destroys OP’s claim that dead bedrooms are strictly a HL man and a LL woman. Or that sex is strictly a male need, that women are generally indifferent to sex, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:27 PM
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1.) There are many marriages and relationships where the woman is frustrated with the lack of sex. Just take a visit to r/DeadBedrooms. 2.) Most married people who lose interest in sex don’t do it to make their spouse uncomfortable or feel undesired, but due to other emotional, physical, or mental issues that they suffer from.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:20 PM
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It reminds me of that awful book The Rules. Such a ridiculous book with ridiculous claims about what men like and are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:30 AM
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This book is so utterly delusional, it infuriates me that it’s so popular. The idiotic author says that men are only interested in sex and that’s what they want firsthand, and that they’re “insane” until they have sex. But women of course don’t have this animalistic sexual desire and only feel uncomfortable after having sex. What a clown.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:29 AM
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You’re extremely overestimating the difference in the amount of testosterone in women and men. But anyway, I don’t get the point of this post. The belief that “women are wonderful” is really only demonstrated in western societies where a much higher degree of gender equality exists. And even in those societies, people seem to be critical of women as well as men (except when it comes to violence and sex crimes, in which cases women are given far more leniency and sympathy)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:54 PM
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You know the one thing all these “high value guys that fuck around” have in common? So do their wives. The wives of rock stars who fuck around, the wives of athletes that fuck around, and even the wives of former presidents, just ask Marla Maple’s bodyguard. There is a reason the harem was guarded by a eunuch. The trope of “wife cheats with the pool boy, martial arts instructor, personal trainer, etc.” exists for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:29 PM
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If men are supposed to be more concerned with a woman’s sexual infidelity because of the fear of paternity, wouldn’t it make sense that women would likewise fear a man’s sexual infidelity? If a man has sex with another woman and impregnates her, that child will be his offspring and he’ll allocate his resources to the second woman and her child, and subsequently allocate less resources for the first woman. Wouldn’t that mean women should fear sexual infidelity from men more than emotional infidel…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:57 PM
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I’m also confused by OP’s admission that men don’t get their partners. It’s one thing to say some have lower standards, but to not vet at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:59 PM
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The FDS subreddit was an absolute shitshow. Those miserable women will never find a loving relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:41 AM
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What evidence is there that men are more worried by sexual infidelity and women are worried more by emotional infidelity? Both are equally painful but emotional infidelity sounds worse in many ways
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:40 AM
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By complete coincidence, I went on a date with a girl from Hinge today and she paid for our drinks. She didn’t seem to mind at all, even when I tried to reimburse her lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:18 AM
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Women don’t “control” sex because men also have agency and deny sex. This isn’t complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:12 PM
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Exactly. Many women are in the apps specifically to fuck. Just ask any physically attractive dude who uses dating apps like Hinge to show you the kinds of filthy messages he receives from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:11 PM
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Why are you stalking my account? This is like the fifth comment you’ve left on my page across multiple different posts. Are you okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:08 AM
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Women have a harder time reaching orgasm than men, no? A man’s orgasm is almost guaranteed from any form of sexual activity (especially PIV sex) but a woman may never be able to orgasm from PIV or without clitoral stimulation. It takes longer for them to orgasm on average, but their orgasms last longer than men’s. And of course many women feel inhibited from sexual pleasure due to their upbringing and social and cultural expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 09:12 PM
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I’d argue that women enjoy sex more and derive more physical pleasure from sex than men, but that certain biological aspects of female sexuality make it harder for women to unlock this pleasure than for men to attain theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:59 PM
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This is far more accurate than people like to admit. My physically attractive friends are in their early 20s and they get sex like it’s nothing. Women throw themselves at these guys (whether in person or non dating apps), and they’re openly lewd and sexual with them. Anyone who doubts this can go to a bar, club, or party and see how the women act towards attractive dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:51 PM
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Tell me you’ve never been on r/DeadBedrooms without telling me you’ve never been on r/DeadBedrooms, lol. Almost half of the posts on there are from sex starved women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:08 AM
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It’s definitely sad that there are men who think sex is a “need” and put women on a pedestal as a result. It’s actually nauseating to see other men act this way and degrade themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:44 AM
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Except for the fact that women also enjoy and pursue sex
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:42 AM
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If men stopped chasing women and stopped giving women so much time and attention, then maybe things would even out. Ultimately, men are to blame for women’s advantages in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:00 PM
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Exactly. OP is delusional for 1) treating sex like something women “give” men and only do out of transactional purposes, and 2) assuming that men are incapable of being physically attractive to women and women only date them for resources. It’s nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:32 AM
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I swear to God, this subreddit is obsessed with the idea that sex is something women “give” men and that women only have sex for transactional purposes It says way more about you and your experiences with dating and sex than it does about anything else, OP
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:30 AM
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Most problems in the dating world would disappear if men stopped chasing after women, especially in such a pathetic and degrading manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 12:49 PM
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I’ve never understood why people say only women are hypergamous, as if men aren’t. Hypergamy basically means dating/marrying someone who has qualities that are socially desirable, as well as being of a higher social standing and reaping the benefits of that relationship, right? Of course men want this as well. Don’t men (generally) want a kind, emotionally available, pretty woman who is popular and socially powerful, as well as desired by other men? Wouldn’t dating such a woman increase his soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 12:20 AM
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Women exploring their sexuality and pleasure is societally accepted, but the same isn’t as true for men. It’s the same reason why women openly discuss vibrators and sex toys but men can almost never can, even amongst themselves. (And the sex toy industry primarily caters to women).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:28 PM
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Speak for yourself lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 05:43 AM
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Anyone who sees sex as something women use to “manipulate” men’s behavior, or something women “provide” men with, is someone I automatically don’t listen to. What is miserable person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:32 PM
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Men can’t fuck girls that we don’t feel attracted to. The most basic requirement for our sexual arousal is being physically attracted to another person. And of course a woman having a horrible personality or being a shitty person will lower a man’s sexual interest
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:47 PM
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Does OP assume that all dead bedrooms involve a HL husband and a LL wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 06:57 PM
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I agreed with his acknowledgment that sex isn’t a male only desire, but I don’t think anyone needs sex in the way you need food or water
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:20 AM
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Those men are the same weirdos who think they’re owed sex by society. I’m saying that nobody “needs” sex the way one needs food and water. Sex is an enjoyable experience that life would be less without, but this isn’t akin to a need. And it’s also an enjoyable experience for women, not just men. Not sure why you aren’t acknowledging that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:17 AM
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I seriously cannot tell if you are trolling or not. No, men don’t “need” sex. And using your logic sex is a female need as well, in case you haven’t realized (and it seems that you haven’t). This is a degrading lie that some men (and some women too, apparently) like to propagate for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:54 AM
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THANK YOU. I will never understand how people see sex as a male only need. It’s bad enough when men make this mistake, but for a woman? Jesus, that’s depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:50 AM
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Relationships are achievements for men as well. In case you haven’t noticed, most men are searching for legitimate relationships and aren’t looking for just sex. The whole “men are driven by sex, but women are driven by actual relationships and real connections” trope severely degrades men and falsely reduces us to impulsive beasts who only want sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:56 AM
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You mentioning OP’s male relatives being violent rapists if left to their own devices actually reminds me of the bizarre trend of boy moms and its sexual undertones
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:24 PM
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Lmao what? In case you haven’t realized, there’s a literal epidemic of female teachers preying upon and grooming their male students. And women aren’t exactly understanding when men deny their sexual advances. I’m not denying the horrible things women go through at the hands of immoral scumbags, but to claim that male sexuality is dirty and perverted but female sexuality is somehow innocent and pure is peak stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:17 PM
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Exactly. Social media is just as negatively impactful for men/boys as it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:47 PM
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You’re assuming that men aren’t also driven by attention and women aren’t driven by sexuality. Men and boys are just as susceptible to social media addiction, desiring attention, etc. as women, even if they don’t receive it as much
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:46 PM
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Yeah, I hate how OP thinks that the default for men is to accept any offer for sex or to take advantage of any woman sexually. It definitely happens, but most men absolutely turn down sex for a multitude of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:29 PM
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I hate restaurants like that. They degrade and dehumanize men and women (but men more so imo)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:03 PM
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The sex toy industry primarily caters to women, as does a significant amount of online porn. That doesn’t mean women aren’t demisexual (which, as others have pointed out, is a meaningless term)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:28 AM
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Hence my flair lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 08:52 PM
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I work out 5x a week and my t levels are fine, thanks for asking
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 05:24 PM
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I’m in my early twenties and I’ve never experienced this phenomenon. I’ve never been so horny that it completely changed my perception of a girl or her personality/traits. I wouldn’t want to sleep with a girl whom I despise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 04:01 PM
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It would be like Topanga said in Boy Meets World: women will use men solely as sex slaves (and for reproductive purposes as well, of course) while developing a cultured society for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:51 PM
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Women do care about looks. They only consider a man’s personality after vetting him for his physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:01 PM
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“Everything men do is for sex.” Do I really need to point out to you the stupidity of this statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 08:04 PM
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It’s insane how people say that women are totally pure and holistic in the way they are attracted to men, and that only men are shallow and focused on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:31 AM
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It’s funny how bestselling marriage books (and popular culture in general) always claim that it men are the ones who need sexual satisfaction in marriage, and without it they’ll leave. Yet women seem to be just as much, if not more, concerned with how a man can pleasure her. Maybe there will be a reversal in which gender society says needs more sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:26 AM
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I agree. I’m 23 and never even considered dating or romantic relationships until last year. I have a deep hatred and disgust for the “men are supposed to chase and pursue women” trope that exists in our society, it truly makes me sick. But I’ve learned that as an average looking man, I’ll have to be the initiator more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:01 AM
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This reminds me of a tweet that I literally just saw: Women can’t grasp how loyal men are, and men can’t grasp how horny women are. Women and men make their own decisions. If your girlfriend can’t resist her carnal desires and sleep with a random Chad, then that’s on her. Would you say that female sexuality is prone to cheating and disloyalty?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:45 PM
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Wasn’t sex also an incentive for women to get married? Most premodern societies had laws that stipulated that husbands were required to sexually satisfy their wives
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:00 PM
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I was referring to men actually withholding sex from their wives/girlfriends to punish or humiliate them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 07:32 PM
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Men can use sex as a weapon as well. Just look at r/ DeadBedrooms
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 06:18 PM
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Men who are physically attractive have the best range of options of all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:40 AM
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Perfectly stated. Men are complex beings with complete desires, not just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:29 PM
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Especially his bizarre belief that women only have sex with attractive men as a way of “locking them down”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:42 AM
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Except it wouldn’t fulfill any need. Sex robots and prostitution will never compare to mutually pleasurable sex with a woman who loves and cherishes you. Not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:23 AM
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I’ve observed the same thing. What I’ve gleaned is that women in safe, healthy relationships have higher sex drives than their partners, and the more sex they have, the more sex they crave. Which leaves their boyfriends/husbands overwhelmed and oversexed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:48 AM
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Delusional. Women absolutely care about sex. The female sex toy industry alone is worth billions of dollars. Anyone who thinks women only have sex to “get” something out of men, and that men only desire to fuck and nothing beyond that, has an extremely unhealthy view of sex and sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 11:13 PM
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Agreed. Women would definitely care about your physical appearance and sexual prowess for a ONS, but the amount of money you make? Not so much
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:11 AM
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Animals aren’t uniform in which gender does what roles. In many animal species, the females are the sexual aggressors and initiators, and the males are the choosers. Cultural and social expectations demand that men be the pursuers and women are the pursued, but this has no biological roots whatsoever. Most men would love to be serenaded and pursued, and the most physically attractive ones do indeed enjoy that kind of attention from women. So no, there is no “naturally predefined” law that men mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:05 PM
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Many men have no problem sleeping around, hence the whole “women only go after chads” debate online. And because such men have so many options, it takes effort for women to sleep with them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:50 PM
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Thank you for acknowledging this. I swear some idiots can’t fathom that women want and desire sex and only have it as a means of obtaining something in return. Sickening
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:24 PM
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Stop saying women “give” men sex and that a woman choosing to have sex with a man is her “giving it up.” Aside from being generally dehumanizing it’s a ridiculous way of looking at how consenting adults have sex (is a high value man “giving it up” by sleeping with a lower status woman?)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:38 PM
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Men cheat more often, but it’s not some crazy high discrepancy. The gap isn’t very wide at all. There’s no evidence to the claim that men cheat “physically” while women cheat “emotionally.” It’s a lie that was completely manufactured by the internet. In reality, both women and men who cheat do do for deeper needs not being met, and neither typically cheat impulsively or at random
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:26 AM
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You’re delusional. No wonder you’re almost 30 and have never even been on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:21 AM
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Are you unironically saying that women don’t want sex, or are you trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:58 PM
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Social media makes anything seem real, when in reality it maya it may not be. Personally, I’ve seen women roundly criticized for having unrealistic standards, juts as I’ve seen men be praised. But different content appear differently for different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 02:38 PM
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For me, a romantic relationship would entail much more than just sex and friendship. It would be someone to talk to, someone to share my struggles with, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:22 PM
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The problem with this trope is that it assumes women are inherently uninterested in sex and that therefore the onus falls on their husbands/boyfriends to arouse them. But I agree with u/Lanaglu that if one person wants sex from the other, it falls on the former to successfully arouse the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:54 AM
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Yep, they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:49 PM
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Most women I know aren’t insatiable “forever.” Even if I had a fun 4 day weekend of marathon sex, I’m not desiring a marathon session the next week. That sounds like most men. As fun as casual sex can be it eventually gets tiring and physically/emotionally taxing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:30 PM
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What makes you say that women only want sex from a sexually attractive man 2-4 times a month? It would seem that when women latch onto a man they find sexually arousing, they become virtually insatiable
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:00 PM
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Exactly. Women are willing to move mountains to sleep with men that are physically desirable. OP must have never been to a club, party, or bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:56 PM
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This blatantly contradicts what we can demonstrably observe. While causal sex poses risks for women that men don’t face, women clearly are driven to have sex with physically attractive men, and are much more willing to overlook those risks to sleep with such men. Just look at the way attractive men are treated at parties, clubs, and bars. All humans are sex driven, not just men, and women receive greater sexual pleasure and satisfaction from sex than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:55 PM
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Women watch porn as well and constitute as much as 1/3 of its viewership. Why does everyone conveniently forget that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:47 AM
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Many men become emotionally attached to the women in porn, which makes it harder for them to quit, and which leads to sexual performance problems because they transfer the emotional attachment that they’re supposed to have towards their wife/girlfriend towards porn actors instead
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:31 PM
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Yes, many men are the perpetrators of the belief that male sexuality is dirty and perverted. It comes from years of religious teachings, social media, and popular culture in the general. And women listen to these men, read their books, etc. and subsequently reach the same conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:12 PM
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Agreed, but there certainly exists this idea in modern society that female sexuality is “superior” or “better” than male sexuality. According to this script, female sexuality is emotional, romantic, and literary, whereas male sexuality is carnal, perverted, and shallow. It’s unfortunate and infuriating, and it’s reinforced by popular culture and bestselling books.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:25 PM
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It’s funny how those men put women on some kind of moral pedestal and demand that they therefore exercise greater self control, but claim that men are conversely little more than animals who have no self control or restraint. These idiots are degrading men, and their too stupid to even realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:20 PM
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Perfect description of how ludicrous his claim is. I only even know who he is because he was on that horrible “whatever” podcast. I think clowns like him like the dies that women are averse to sex because it serves as an excuse as to how women won’t fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:22 PM
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Society has this dumb idea that only men are shallow and focused on women’s looks, but women conversely are more sophisticated in the things they find attractive about men. It’s a ridiculous lie, and women absolutely value men’s physical appearance, perhaps even more than men. That being said, I think your girlfriend is dimly saying that while she definitely finds you attractive, she also values your other qualities and traits as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:04 PM
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Both women and men want committed relationships and sex. And women have no problems engaging in commitment-free sex, as we’ve clearly seen. His point is worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:00 PM
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I regret logging into Reddit today because otherwise I wouldn’t have come across this post. The Psych Hacks guy is an idiot. What kind of moron thinks that women innately avoid sex as much as possible, and only do it out of the desire for a relationship? Who takes this clown seriously? A lot of men don’t want relationships with women they deem to be “sluts” so idk how his theory works
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:01 PM
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Agreed. He’s a lunatic with an incredibly dim view of men, women, and male/female sexuality. What kind of dumbass thinks women inherently want to avoid sex as much as possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:58 PM
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So your problem is that women lust after hot guys and want to fuck them without a relationship, but when it comes to a guy they really care about, then they don’t want to rush into sex quickly? As a guy, if I really liked a girl I wouldn’t be quick to jump into bed with her. I’d much rather prefer to hold off sex until we got to know each other better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:19 PM
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Agreed. Men who pout about not having sex are truly embarrassing individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:04 PM
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They don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 08:58 PM
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“Why Men Love Bitches” is an absolutely awful book. It’s the perfect example of a book written by a woman who doesn’t understand men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 08:40 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 08:35 AM
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As a zoomer myself (23M), I think it’s safe to say that we’re more promiscuous and sexually open. Girls our age in particular are no longer constricted by the social demands of decades ago (at least not to the same degree), and are now much more free to explore their sexuality and sexual desires. But ironically, this has led to women being characterized as perverted and sexually insatiable by some, which only serves to harm girls’ ability to freely enjoy sex all over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:34 AM
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And men would stay in a horrible relationship with a horrible woman just because she’s attractive? Incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:22 PM
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The most physically attractive men can go through life with the guarantee of securing a relationship with little to no effort
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:16 PM
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I don’t think men in (happy) marriages would leave their wives for a porn star, no matter how rich and attractive she is
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:15 PM
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Is it really even true that men are attracted to most women? Maybe more so that women being attracted to men, but definitely not to the degree that people on this subreddit claim
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:54 PM
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I know of the Meredith Chivers study you’re referencing. Can you cite me any other sources that indicate that women get more easily aroused? I’d be very interested in seeing those
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:51 PM
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Since the main barriers preventing women from being as interested in sex (physical safety, social/cultural shaming, fear of lack of pleasure) would still be in place, I don’t think much would change, even if women were willing to take more risks to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:13 PM
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I agree with OP, the woman implies that she slept with other men to satiate her “needs.” The man implied to have wanted a romantic connection with another woman, but he ultimately couldn’t let the thoughts of his wife go.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 12:34 PM
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The reason for that double standard is because men are thought to always want sex no matter what, so a married man who doesn’t put out is considered to be defective or neglectful of his wife’s needs. Of course, in reality, male sexuality is much more complicated than that and we simply aren’t able to fuck on cue. To answer your question: yes. A woman, or man, who feels sexually rejected in her/his marriage has the right to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:24 AM
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Just today I literally saw some moron comment that exact thing on a post on r/AskMen, where a woman was asking how she can show appreciation for her partner. Guys like that insult themselves and men in general and don’t even realize it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 08:27 PM
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Men say “belly full, balls empty.” I literally saw some moron comment that exact thing on a post on r/AskMen, where a woman was asking how she can show appreciation for her boyfriend. Guys like that insult themselves and men in general and are too stupid to even realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 08:27 PM
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Some men are afraid of commitment, some women are afraid of commitment. These conversations could be so, so much more simpler if people stopped with the meaningless generalizations
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 02:57 AM
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Tell me you’ve never been to a club, bar, or party without telling me you’ve never been to a club, bar, or party
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 04:43 PM
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Men tend to have much less social and mental barriers to sexual arousal, but it doesn’t mean women can’t be just as horny if not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 03:04 AM
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I remember someone would frequently post this exact same claim across multiple subreddits, but I didn’t think he’d make entirely new accounts to do the same thing. Is it possible that this is just a different moron?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:36 PM
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OP is being highly exaggerative and dishonest in his characterization of women’s libido. Out of curiosity, are your friends and patients not interested in sex itself, but have an interest in masturbation and other sexual acts that don’t involve another person? From what I’ve observed, women (in general) become more interested in sex as they grow older, and many have strong libidos at my age (I’m 23)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:52 PM
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I laughed out loud when OP said that the risk is “minimal.” This dude is incapable of even trying to understand women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:40 PM
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The mods seriously need to do something about these boneheaded “men are horny animals but women are indifferent to sex” posts. Low effort, idiotic, and probably trolling anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:39 PM
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Men are frequently the worst misandrists on this subreddits. Characterizing men as insatiably horny but women as inherently indifferent to sex is as misandrist as it gets, and yet they’re too stupid to even realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:37 PM
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The AI generated woman in that video isn’t really unattractive. Try this experiment with obese, ugly, or otherwise deformed women. With regards to your last paragraph, men who have lost attraction to their wives and only have sex with them out of obligation literally wouldn’t have sex if they didn’t feel a pressure to do so. I’m not sure how that supports your claim
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 02:30 PM
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Proof that deformed and obese women can get hundreds of likes? Sounds very far fetched
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:47 PM
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I would imagine extremely rare. Despite what many people believe, men certainly have standards when it comes to sex. Annoying, physically unattractive, and otherwise unappealing women will struggle getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:37 PM
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Lmao what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:43 PM
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I hate how OP frames sex as something women “provide” men with, or something that only men seek. Instances of casual sex involve two consenting parties, not one party “giving” the other party something. Also, most men can’t bear prostitution because men want to feel genuinely desired and attractive to enjoy sex, and prostitution is devoid of both of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:39 AM
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Male college and professional athletes, guys in fraternities, and male celebrities in general tend to be very physically attractive. That’s why women throw themselves at them. It’s not complicated. That’s literally all there is to it. I’m sure that their other qualities (being funny, socially competent, etc) also play a role, but it’s fundamentally their physical appearance. I don’t see why any woman should be embarrassed by this, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:50 PM
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Thank you for posting these studies. I would also include the study that says women are much more interested in casual sex when safety/risk factors are taken into account
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:37 PM
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Just because women’s orgasms are more pleasurable doesn’t mean they’re as likely to reach orgasm. Men have a much easier time achieving orgasm from PIV and therefore have an easier time pursuing casual sex; their pleasure is almost certainly guaranteed. Women’s isn’t. Where is the “five times more initiation” claim coming from? The wife or girlfriend has a higher sex drive in a significant number of heterosexual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:47 PM
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Women feel greater physical pleasure from sex, their orgasms last much longer than men’s, they have an organ that serves no purpose other than sexual pleasure (unlike men), and their sexual desire increases with the more sex they have, which is typically the opposite for men. OP is divorced from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:29 PM
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That’s completely normal and common for women in relationships. I’m almost certain that people like OP are trolls who are trying to stir controversy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:27 PM
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People are brutal to morons who ask ridiculous questions that almost come across as troll questions. This post is a perfect example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:23 PM
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Men dominate society to a much greater degree than women; even in societies with higher standards of living and higher gender equality, men are still at the top of the societal hierarchy. Stereotypes and attitudes about women therefore impact them much more than those about men, since women are more susceptible to having less control over society and being controlled by others
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:40 PM
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That’s something I hate about stereotypes about women: they typically claim that women are more “mature” in what they like about men, but men are just shallow and focused on looks. It’s demonstrably false to say that women aren’t concerned with a man’s physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:30 PM
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If you were to say guy are "visual" or they like "younger woman" or guys only go for girls with "looks" it wouldn't really impact most men and actually most men would agree. Even some would give you a scientific reason why. As much as I hate it, there absolutely exist men who have no problem with the notion that we’re shallow and only concerned with a woman’s looks as opposed to more meaningful qualities. It blows my mind that they’re not in the least bit offended by it. To answer your question,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:24 PM
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None, unless you’re referring to men with zero impulse control. Most men aren’t slaves to lust
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 04:09 PM
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This reminds me of a PragerU video where the guy claimed that women are family and child oriented, whereas men are just interested in pursuing women. My own observations and experiences seem to indicate that it’s men who ar emote interested in having and raising children, not women. PragerU is trash btw
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 03:20 PM
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Most men don’t enjoy “chasing” women, nor do they get some thrill out of trying to woo some uninterested woman. However our prehistoric ancestors acted, modern men simply don’t like to make fools of themselves by vying for the attention and approval of women. And rightfully so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 03:22 AM
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Men who shame other men for not chasing women are fucking weird. Not wanting to be desperate and chase after women who don’t like me back makes me less of a man? GTFO
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 03:21 AM
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It doesn’t have to do with libido, it has to do with the fact that women face way more risks than men when it comes to sex and approaching the other gender
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 03:16 AM
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The male sex drive is the “fifth fundamental force of the universe”? 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 03:14 AM
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I don’t understand your comment. Are you accusing me of not addressing “red pill dumbasses” who make these claims? As it so happens, I do in fact call them out
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:58 AM
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I agree that men are some of the worst proponents of this shit, which is why this sub can be so frustrating at times
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:58 AM
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Agreed. I hate how so many people think men are only concerned with a woman’s physical appearance but that deeper qualities don’t matter to us. Misandrist nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:35 AM
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Assuming this was a real conversation with a female friend, you should stop being friends with her because she’s utterly deranged. No man who’s looking for a serious relationship is only concerned with sex and a woman’s looks. There’s far more important things (personality, chemistry, shared beliefs, etc) that must be considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:25 AM
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Men don’t “need” sex like eating or drinking. That’s as ridiculous as OP’s entire post.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:43 AM
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This post is actually rather funny, if only it didn’t come off as totally unhinged and delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:42 AM
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The most delusional, unhinged, worthless Reddit post I’ve ever read in my life. And that is truly saying something. Please delete this app, get outside, and stay away from the internet for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:40 AM
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You should work on making your poetry less shitty
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 02:02 AM
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What exactly about boys do those moms think is easy to understand? Nobody is “easy” to understand, it’s so weird when parents think that they fully understand their kids lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:17 AM
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And women don’t just consume erotica, they also watch internet porn as well. People seem to neglect mentioning that for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 02:25 AM
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THANK YOU. Society always assumes that it’s men who are carnal and sex oriented, but that women are somehow “pure” in their desires and aren’t nearly as carnal or perverted. Anyone who has interacted with women in any meaningful capacity knows that this is bullshit lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 02:24 AM
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The hatred I have for purity culture (especially around the time that you grew up in it) knows no bounds. I don’t even want to tell you what I would do to people who promote those beliefs about men and male sexuality because I’ll probably get banned from Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 05:54 PM
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I agree. Most of the men my age (early 20s) yearn for sex and romance as a way of proving to themselves that they’re desirable in the eyes of women. I honestly believe that feeling desired and attractive is more important to men than it is to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:35 PM
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Social construction and societal expectations play a significant role in male sexuality and how most men think of sex. Like you said, you yourself didn’t really want to engage in sex, but you did anyway because you felt “pressure” to lose your virginity. But that just resulted in a poor sexual experience. Think about the way society reacts to female teachers grooming/sleeping with their male students, or women who sexually assault or harass men. Those men and boys are considered “lucky,” because…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:33 PM
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What proof is there that women are “better nurturers”? This sounds like one of those traditional stereotypes that has no actual scientific basis
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:39 PM
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It needs to be acknowledged that women do the same thing (sleep with a guy and then ghost him, or treat certain guys as only good for sex but not relationship material). That’s the most important part of this discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:44 PM
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You’re being incredibly disingenuous. I didn’t claim that women are like that. OP was specifically discussing how many well known historical figures openly reviled women, so I commented that this was a prevalent belief in premodern civilizations and provided another example.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:15 PM
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Here’s another quote worth including: "Women are insatiable in respect of two things: sex and motherhood; so insatiable that they cannot free themselves from these cravings before death." (Angutt 2.6.10) This is from the Buddha himself, Siddartha Gautama. Many other ancient figures and ancient literature paint women to be sexually insatiable and enslaved to carnal pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:11 PM
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Are there any studies or research that proves that the more a woman has sex, the greater her desire becomes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:59 PM
2

I guess that’s the reason behind the “women are sexually insatiable” trope that’s existed in almost every ancient and premodern civilization
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:52 PM
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The reported deaths in this conflict are almost entirely fabricated and inaccurate. Hamas wants to give the impression that women and children are dying at greater rates in order to gain global sympathy, but nobody with an IQ over 50 believes their ridiculous claims.
/r/MensRights09/05/24 11:52 AM
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Because people who say that “we’re basically animals” almost always say it as a defense of certain negative behaviors or negative traits
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:11 AM
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Well yes, that and the various social and safety risks that women face from NSA that men don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:32 AM
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Women have also historically desired casual sex, it was never merely a man’s desire
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:29 AM
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Bruh are you kidding? She cheated on Tom with her Brazilian Ju Jitsui instructor. The dude is handsome and muscular. There’s a reason for the old “bored wife wants to fuck the pool boy” trope
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:13 PM
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I hate how people on this subreddit claim even the least attractive women have an upper hand in dating. It’s literally not true. Unattractive women may have it worse than any other group.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:34 PM
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All it proves is that most women shudder to make the first move, which is most probably due to the fact that our culture puts women on a pedestal when it comes to romance and dating, whereas men are expected to degrade themselves by vying for women’s interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:08 AM
2

Since most men are disgusted by prostitution, not much
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:39 PM
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This is the accurate response to this ridiculous post. Men want to earn money for many more reasons than sex; most men can’t even bear the idea of paying for sex or having sex that’s devoid of passion or genuine desire. And of course women desire sex as well, so I’m not sure why OP frames sex as a strictly male desire and a female commodity
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:20 PM
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This whole post is strange. Men earn money for many reasons that don’t involve sex. And of course the posts falsely implies that women don’t seek sex and that it’s a strictly male pursuit. 🤦🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:16 PM
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Are you suggesting that women’s sexuality is based on emotions and appreciation, but men’s is purely carnal and pleasure based? I would recommend that you read the book Why Does He Do That? which is about how abusive men think. It discusses how sometimes women stay in otherwise horrible relationships because the man is a good lover and the sex is phenomenal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:23 PM
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I’d argue that attractive men have it better than anyone else when it comes to dating and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:14 PM
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Men absolutely yearn for the attention of women. That’s why we work out, wear cologne, purchase attractive suits and outfits, etc. I hate how some people say only women enjoy attention lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:14 PM
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I don’t agree that unattractive women have an upper hand in dating and sex. They don’t. Men don’t want to sleep with ugly women. Attractive women on the other hand, do indeed have an easy time with sex and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:34 PM
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I agree with OP. Bachelorette parties do indeed involve a lot of crotch grabbing, drunk groping, and the sexualization/objectification of the male stripper at the hands of the female guests. It’s one of the many things that disprove the notion that women aren’t perverted or carnal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:57 PM
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I don’t believe this to be true. Women have to be apprehensive and cautious around men in a way men simply don’t have to feel around women, and this probably plays a role in women’s overall attraction to men. And as often mentioned on this subreddit, women hyper focus on about 20% of men, so the idea that women aren’t drawn to physically attractive men is patently false.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:58 AM
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Is there any good evidence to suggest that this is true? I know in Lundy Bancroft’s book Why Does He Do That (which is about abusive men), he says that sometimes women don’t leave an abusive relationship because the sex is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:43 AM
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That must have been eye opening. What exactly was the woman run company producing in its publications that required it to be sent back repeatedly?
/r/MensRights03/05/24 08:12 PM
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She was talking about men in general, not “some” men, and used her sexist generalizations to support ridiculous notions about relationships. And she accused me of wanting to deceive women for my own benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:14 PM
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How would you prove it to others, though? Most people don’t listen or take my claim seriously.
/r/MensRights03/05/24 04:05 PM
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Agreed. And it’s also degrading to men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:58 PM
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Because it’s a ridiculous notion. Of course men reject women and sex, it happens all the time. Individuals have the ability to make decisions and rejections as they see fit. The world is much more complicated than “men compete for women and women choose men.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:57 PM
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The only way you can fairly believe women owe men sex is if you also believe that men owe women sex (and orgasms)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:54 PM
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I have a deep disgust for men who lie to women in order to date or sleep with them. I’m sorry that you have such a negative view of men and relationships and that men are to do all pursuing and desiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:29 PM
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It’s because male sexuality is seen to be perverted and carnal but female sexuality is seen to be holistic, mature and more “superior” to male sexuality. But I’d argue that female sexuality is just as carnal and perverted, if not more.
/r/MensRights03/05/24 02:57 PM
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Yeah, I hate how OP is acting as if the sexual revolution only resulted in men taking advantage of women, as if women weren’t also enjoying sex or pursuing carnal pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:49 PM
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What a delusional analysis. Nothing you said is generally true and none of it supports the notion that men need to do the pursuing or love the woman “more.” It honestly just sounds like you have poor experiences with men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:28 PM
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What truth does it hold?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:13 PM
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It stems from the belief that men are supposed to “desire” women and women are supposed to be “desirable.” When in reality, men want to feel desirable and attractive to women and women obviously desire attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:08 PM
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The idea that men like to “chase” women is such utter nonsense that I’m astonished so many people believe it. I hate it in particular because it elevates women to some status of “superiority,” whereas we men are apparently just dumb dogs who drool over women and chase them no matter how little interest they show. It’s degrading. The biggest complaint men have when it comes to dating is that they feel undesirable and unattractive, which they wouldn’t complain about if men were “wired” to chase di…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:53 PM
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Right, women don’t need sex with another person but still (in general) masturbate and use porn to fill that void when single. So it’s not that women can go long stretches of time without sexual pleasure, but rather that they can go long without partnered sex itself (again, in general)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:22 PM
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That’s what I’m saying lol. What the fuck is the “gender war”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:20 PM
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Sure, since causal sex poses a lot more risks for women than men. But women still have sexual needs even when single, do they not?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:41 PM
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Women sleep with men only to have a shot at a relationship Right, because they don’t have sex for, I don’t know, pleasure?? Women have so many opportunities to have sex with attractive men. Attractive men can sleep with almost any woman they want, so women don’t really have as easy of a time sleeping with such men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:27 PM
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Men here are a loud and idiotic minority
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 04:35 PM
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Why are you presupposing that men “need” sex but women only “need” emotional fulfillment? I agree that men shouldn’t ignore their wife’s sexual and emotional needs and vice versa, but why assume that these needs are strictly for one gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:13 PM
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It has nothing to do with our “release.” Men need to feel desired and wanted, so a pity handjob would be undesirable and meaningless for most of us. OP is simply propagating the myth that men “need” some kind of physical release.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:11 PM
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I was about to say the same thing lol. A lot of these posts are unnecessarily long and have a rather simple point. “Muscular features arouse women.” Seems pretty straightforward
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:49 PM
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From my experiences in high school and college, attractive people of both genders tend to be much more social than unattractive people, probably since they were given more attention. Likewise, girls are drawn to attractive boys, and give such boys more attention than unattractive boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:51 PM
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This is accurate. Men need to feel genuinely desired and wanted by their partners, and prostitution is devoid of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:04 AM
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What a stupid, ignorant post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:35 AM
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I don’t understand how women can’t look at men like cars or men can’t view women like D1 scouting recruits. It literally works both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:54 PM
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And yet many men secure casual sex relatively easily (or much easier than many would have you think).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:16 PM
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Men are not “weak to their sexuality” lmfao. And women don’t have “power” over men when it comes to sex. The existence of impulsive men who give into sex isn’t representative of men in general
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:56 PM
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The “if a man/woman walks into a bar” argument is pretty ridiculous. Of course men, who face much fewer risks from casual sex, are going to be more receptive to sex offers than women. And the argument doesn’t take physical appearance into account: only an attractive woman can easily get men to have sex with her, not an unattractive one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:54 PM
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Using that logic, if a physically attractive man (in the top 20% of men) sleeps around and is promiscuous, that should lower his “value” since sex is easy for him to obtain, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:51 PM
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“Female women” lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 10:22 PM
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“The Art of Seduction” is worthless garbage that promotes misandrist lies. I would highly advise not reading it or anything else by Greene.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:55 PM
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“Being able to sexually satisfy your girlfriend is incredibly important for your relationship and directly impacts how she treats you.” In other news, the sky is blue
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:57 PM
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Most men aren’t sex driven to the point that they’re “brutes” who desire different girls all day. The criticism of these so-called “fuckboys” is directed specially to those men, not men in general. And women who have high standards or who also act out carnally or selfishly are 100% criticized all over the internet and in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:50 PM
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What proof do you have that ugly women can easily get sex from good looking guys? That’s patently false
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 08:54 AM
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Are you seriously saying that women don’t need to be attractive for them to have sex, and that women will sleep with even an unattractive woman? Boy do I have news for you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 08:42 AM
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The idea that men cheat “physically” but women cheat “emotionally” is bullshit. It’s a gross generalization at best and a straight up lie at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 05:27 PM
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Are you saying that you and OP previously discussed this topic and he couldn’t fathom the idea that victim blaming exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:58 PM
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What an idiotic analysis of this post. The woman clearly doesn’t want a relationship with OOP, as she declined his offer of one. She literally just wants him for the sex. If anything, she’s exploiting him for her sexual needs, not the other way around. And need I even address your ridiculous claim that women only have sex in order to “acquire resources”?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:57 PM
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It’s funny how people typically think that men are the lens who string women along for sex, when the opposite is seemingly more common. As in this post, the man wanted a serious relationship (or at least something more than casual sex), but the woman was only interested in him for sex. But when he finds another woman to date, she flips out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:45 PM
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Exactly. I never understand why people always say women have the advantage when it comes to dating or getting sex. Only attractive women hold these advantages. Unattractive women are out of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:53 AM
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I feel like this really isn’t that impossible. As you yourself admit, women are sexually open with, and lust after, men they find physically attractive. It’s just that a lot of men aren’t physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:52 AM
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I wish that men were the ones who were desired and pursued by women, rather than vice versa. Not just to eliminate the frustrations that men face in the dating world, but mainly because being the gender that is expected to pursue and desire (as opposed to being pursued and being desired) is just torture.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:51 AM
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Not only does it put women on some kind of moral pedestal, but it also degrades men and reduces us to be carnally minded and sex oriented, whereas women are relationship oriented. It’s the most sexist thing ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:56 PM
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Henry Cavill recently said he was sick of women sexualizing and objectifying him, so it makes sense that he’d prefer a meaningful relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:55 PM
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Sex isn’t my main priority at all, although it would be one of the benefits of a romantic relationship. Personally, I’d hate the idea of just sleeping around because it’ll ultimately be meaningless. Being loved and desired would seem more attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:54 PM
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I wish I never even came across that subreddit, so thanks for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:56 PM
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It’s an extension of the myth that men are perpetually horny and insatiable and that we would never turn down sex. Which is degrading bullshit, of course. And it’s lead many women to believe that they can sexually harass or touch a man without even asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:30 PM
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The only thing I agree with you on is that men are larger and stronger and therefore less susceptible to being sexually assaulted by women than vice versa. Even if men are more interested in casual sex than women on average, it doesn’t give women a green light to act as degenerate or lewd as they please.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:29 PM
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Yeah, I hate that trope more than anything. It’s blatantly, obviously untrue to any realistic person
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:00 AM
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Your post barely makes sense at all, I was mainly going off of the title
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:17 AM
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“Women want to fuck guys that are hot and sexually attractive, but aren’t so keen to fuck guys that aren’t as hot.” In other news, the sun rose today. Not sure why such an obvious fact of reality is supposed to be some kind of profound revelation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:22 AM
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What evidence is there that most men are attracted to most women, but the opposite isn’t true? The “top 20% of men” argument is commonly used but how is that determined?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:05 PM
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If men realized how pathetic chasing women is, or how pathetic it is to desire women to the point of elevating them to some goddess-like status, it would stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:04 PM
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Most men love (and need) foreplay. And most of us find it very important to satisfy our partners’ sexual needs. Your partner isn’t representative of healthy minded men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:17 PM
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Agreed. I’m a man, and I love non sexual touch: cuddling, kissing, foreplay, etc. Most men I’ve encountered are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:15 PM
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Regarding point D, are you saying that women don’t enjoy casual sex as much because of they have no guarantee of pleasure and will suffer social/cultural consequences, or that they don’t enjoy casual sex because they aren’t carnally minded or inclined? The former is accurate, the latter isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 02:43 PM
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That’s correct. No normal dude will want a woman who acts hard to get or who doesn’t return interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 02:16 AM
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The idea that men enjoy the “chase” or “pursuing” women is complete bullshit. We don’t like to yearn after women who don’t return affection or interest. At least, guys who aren’t total creeps, but most guys aren’t creeps who can’t take no for an answer. Most guys want to feel desired and wanted as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 02:15 AM
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I’m sorry, who?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:46 AM
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Why are you assuming only men chase after sex but women don’t, or that women don’t desire to have sex unless it involves “feelings”? This scenario obviously paints Bernie as worse
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:33 PM
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Women can’t fathom it when a man doesn’t want sex, and then she gets mad at him for not wanting to fuck and subsequently lashes out at him. And then pressures him into sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:30 AM
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Women thinking that men are desperate for sex is the worst misconception that women have about men. Even OP is framing sex as something women “give” men, as opposed to something women desire and pursue themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:26 AM
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Because women don’t control sex, and men don’t exclusively desire sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:10 AM
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Most men have dignity, standards, and are more sophisticated than that. This is demonstrably true, as seen by the dating world and how men behave in real life. But idiots on social media think that only women have standards, can make rational decisions, and are less impulsively driven by carnal desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:11 PM
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Absolutely correct. Sex obsessed men don’t represent the norm for men, just as nymphomaniacs don’t represent all women. This post is such a breath of fresh air. It’s nice to open this subreddit and see a post that debunks the misandrist lie that men are perpetually horny animals, instead of fueling this asinine bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:09 PM
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I see. The guy needs therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:41 AM
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The entire trope of “women desire romance but men desire sex” is not only a gross generalization, but insulting to men. It’s essentially saying women are driven by emotional connections and more important aspects of relationships, but men only yearn for physical pleasure. It’s degrading
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:35 AM
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I mean women consume internet porn at high rate sad well, it’s no longer an industry that targets only men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:32 AM
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Are you sure it’s the same guy? I remember The Loop, he also posted about how men are hornier than women, but how do you know OP is the same guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:22 AM
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Couldn’t agree more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:28 AM
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It’s sad how many women only use men for sex tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:55 PM
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Aren’t you the idiot who said that feminists don’t have a sex drive on another post earlier today? And now you’re claiming that women have no sex drive and therefore a woman who wants sex is some kind of unicorn? At this point I can’t tell if you’re seriously this delusional or if you’re simply trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:51 PM
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I thought you said this was the most braindead take of all?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:38 PM
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“Men will fuck anything” is literally the most anti-man, misandrist shit imaginable. Yet these idiots confidently proclaim it, degrading and demeaning men and ironically elevating women to the moral high ground. It’s infuriating and false.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:29 PM
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I remember that one dude who made several posts like this across multiple subreddits. Dude was obsessed with the idea that men are perpetually horny animals but women are completely indifferent to sex and sexual pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:27 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:26 PM
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Feminists don’t have a sex drive? Is that a bad joke? But the most bizarre thing about your comment (and there are many bizarre things in it) is your notion that being morally superior is tied to having a sex drive. OP’s bullshit post degrades and belittles men. Saying men are incomprehensibly horny but women can’t fathom being horny degrades men and elevates women. Saying “men will fuck anything” is degrading to men, not women. I don’t understand how you people don’t realize that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:02 PM
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Guys like OP degrade and dehumanize men with this “men will fuck anything” rhetoric, and they’re too stupid to even realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 04:56 PM
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Social stigma has always ensured women pursue sex and sexual desire less than men. Society has always controlled female sexuality in different ways, from claiming that women are insatiable sex freaks to proclaiming that women have zero interest in sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 04:55 PM
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It isn’t “braindead” to suggest that women are horny for certain men. This is literally true, as any man who’s physically attractive can testify. Those men have women lusting after them and desiring sex with them to a degree that other men don’t. Men have stronger sex drives on average, yes. Doesn’t mean women can’t be just as horny if not more. “Men are horny in a way women can’t fathom and will fuck anything” is the actual braindead take.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 04:54 PM
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Men who have options probably don’t place as much of an importance on casual sex. I for one am more interested in a relationship first, and then engaging in sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 03:23 PM
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I never understand why people assume only men would utilize sex robots. They’d honestly most likely be marketed towards women. The female sex toy industry is already massive, and built entirely off of women’s need for self sexual pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 03:09 AM
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That therapist is delusional. The fact that people as boneheaded as that are working in therapy is horrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 03:59 PM
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Great summary! I especially like how you acknowledge that men aren’t the sole consumers of porn, and that modern porn caters to both women and men and that men also produce sexual content and pornography. People always seem to forget that women also view porn and contribute to the industry’s existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:55 PM
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I mean yeah, if there’s a male celebrity who’s sexually attractive, or makes sense for women to fantasize about him. Not exactly groundbreaking news
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:18 PM
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So women are willing to overlook a man’s behavior if he’s physically attractive? Shocker. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:57 AM
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Attractive men have more options and don’t have to deal with the issues attractive women face
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:33 AM
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I swear to god, this same post is made every damn day. Yes, women and men have different experiences. I would argue that the people who have it easiest in the dating world are attractive men. They can have sex and relationships as effortlessly as they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:10 AM
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Men and women both promote this dynamic, and it actually angers and disheartens me to see other men degrade themselves (often without even realizing it). I blame any person or institution for promoting it, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:43 PM
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Society in general frames male sexuality as carnal, perverted, and shallow, but frames female sexuality as emotionally based, moral, and driven by love and romance. We can observe this phenomenon in popular culture, books about relationships and marriage, movies and TV shows, you name it. It blows my mind that most men don’t feel offense at this dynamic. It’s as if they don’t realize how degrading and misandrist it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:28 PM
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You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about and it’s actually hilarious. her unless she has some kind of psychological problem that makes her seek sex for attention. So women who seek sex are psychologically damaged. What a ridiculous generalization at best and a vicious lie at worst. Men’s sex drive is always ready to go. Just looking at a woman sends men’s hormones into the stratosphere; heck even a random breeze can. We get aroused by random breezes? I won’t even entertain this nons…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:02 PM
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So what did you mean by “women don’t lust the same way men do?” I’m certain that you meant women don’t lust after men physically or desire sexual pleasure. That seems pretty clear. Anyone who says “men will have sex with anything” is in no position to complain about personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:33 PM
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“Men will have sex with anything” “Women don’t lust after men or sex” You are delusional and your comment shouldn’t be taken seriously by anyone. I don’t even disagree with your main point (that women aren’t having sex left and right, as OP thinks) but aside from that your comment is full of bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:18 PM
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Consent is a fundamental aspect of any sexual encounter, regardless of gender. Suggesting that women have sole control over who gets sex and when is not only insulting to men but also undermines the agency of women themselves. THANK YOU. I’m sick of hearing people say that women “control” sex because men will never decline sexual offers or have no agency when it comes to sex. Men can (and absolutely do) reject sex. Consensual sex required the consent of both parties, not just the woman’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:03 PM
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Thank you for acknowledging the “women decide if and when sex happens” nonsense. Men have agency and the ability to consent. We aren’t incapable of declining sex, as OP insinuates. Not to mention the fact that non consensual sexual acts are decided by the perpetrator
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:00 PM
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Not to mention the way male porn actors say they often feel objectified and commodified by their work
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:58 PM
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You’d be amazed at how many people deny this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:25 PM
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I mean, men’s sex drives are also impacted by external factors. I’m not a woman so I can’t answer as to how external factors impact women’s sex drives, but as a 23 (M) I can tell you that they absolutely affect ours.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:55 AM
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Interestingly, this study claims that about 1/4 women have higher sex drives than the average man
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:54 AM
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Lmao I think “she” is a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:52 AM
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I mean I wouldn’t use perverted men as accurate representations of all men. Ever time I open twitter I read a new story about some female high/middle school teacher grooming and molesting her students. Would they be accurate representations of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:08 AM
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I would argue that women’s sexual desires were policed far more than men’s historically. Like in medieval Europe, women who were widowed were feared because it was believed that they would try to fuck random men (since they no longer have an outlet for their sexual desires).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:10 AM
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It’s insane that people still seriously claim that women don’t like sex, or that they only enjoy sex for its “emotional” aspects but don’t derive any physical pleasure from it. It’s even become a meme at this point: “I’ve never met a woman who likes sex, so therefore women don’t like sex.” 🤦🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:07 AM
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It’s definitely true that women are often socially conditioned to not pursue sex or carnal pleasure. This is true in western societies and it’s even worse in ones that continue to confirm and women to the household and domestic servitude. Many cultures and civilizations promoted the opposite notion: that women are insatiably horny and cannot resist sex. And funnily enough, those cultures and civilizations still confined women and limited their rights because they were seen as irrationally horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:05 AM
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Lmao no. And judging by her carnality, I wouldn’t date her because I would fear she’d cheat on me. Side note: this podcast is a disease and a testament to the degradation of society
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:30 PM
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This is it. Most people, women and men, cheat for deeper emotional/relational reasons, not sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:28 PM
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I mean, women also get off to internet porn that involves objectification and certain fantasies/scenarios. The video you linked is literally just a fantasy where a woman gets to enjoy the pleasure of several men. A lot of men also need more than just the literal image or video of a sexual act and require some kind of context
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:36 PM
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What a deranged list. This doesn’t apply to most men at all. OP must have had really bad experiences men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:41 PM
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He’s relatively attractive, a talented comedian, and seems to attract women. So…..yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:23 PM
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Yeah he has more options
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:25 PM
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Could you give an example of a midrange male celebrity? I’d still say a midrange male celebrity has a greater range of sexual options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 07:58 PM
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I like this question! Easily a male celebrity. Think of Henry Cavill or Chris Hemsworth. Women literally salivate over men like that. They can sleep with almost any woman they choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:56 PM
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This is true! And this was believed across various cultures, from the ancient Greeks to the medieval Europeans to the teachings of Buddha. The Bible itself is full of stories of women who cheat on their husbands with younger and more attractive men, insatiable harlots who seek to lead innocent men into fornication, and girls who lust after their enemies and even their own family members.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:39 PM
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Why Women Love Bitches is a hilariously bad book. It’s like The Rules but even worse in some ways. The author claims that men only seek sex, despite the fact that most men on dating apps and on the dating market are interested in serious relationships. She claims women “lose their minds” after sex (supposedly because of “pair bonding”). She also claims men are inherently pursuers who do not wish to be desired or pursued themselves, which is funny since the #1 complaint from men in modern dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:38 PM
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Delusional. A man will absolutely not sleep with a woman he doesn’t at least find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:19 PM
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I recently learned that chastity belts in medieval Europe were meant to prevent women from cheating on their husbands. It’s fascinating to see how the “wives are insatiable animals who will cheat as often as possible” has existed across time and cultures
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:56 PM
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Will she get away with those poor qualities for a fling? Sure. But for marriage, or a serious relationship? I highly doubt it. Eventually the excitement wears off and you’re stuck with someone awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:13 AM
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I feel sorry for those men. As a 23 year old dude, I’d say that good personality/morals are the most important thing when finding a serious relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:12 AM
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Is this sarcastic? Men absolutely care about a woman’s personality when looking for a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 01:50 AM
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Virtual no man is going to want a serious relationship with even the most incredibly hot woman in the world if she’s mentally unstable, has a poor personality, etc. Those things matter for men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 01:49 AM
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And they’ll learn how unfathomably powerful and pleasurable the female orgasm is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:31 PM
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Men will get a chance to see just how powerful and pleasurable the female orgasm is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:31 PM
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That video of the mom hugging her HS football player son was very disturbing. Definitely some strange sexual overtones with moms like that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 07:13 PM
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Because a man can tell when a woman is only trying to sleep with him, or when she’s just trying to impress him. As for Pearl, she isn’t exactly attractive and her grift is kind of obvious, so….
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:47 PM
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But men aren’t attracted to all women either. I frequently hear that men find most women at least somewhat attractive, but from my own experiences, I’d say about 40% of the women I encounter are “attractive” in some way (and much fewer would constitute being very or exceptionally attractive)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:58 AM
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“The default for heterosexual women is lack of attraction to men.” This is demonstrably false. It may be true that a large number of men aren’t attractive to most women, but to say that women don’t lust after or have attraction to good looking men (which is subjective) is nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:09 AM
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And of course, sexual crimes perpetrated by women against men (female teachers grooming and molesting their male students, women groping and harassing male strangers, etc.) will go uncared for and ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:39 PM
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Probably what most women in that situation would be thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:42 PM
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That podcast is a testament to how the internet has ruined our modern society. That scumbag “doctor” doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but that could be said about most of the Whatever podcast’s guests.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:52 PM
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Yeah, a lot of people still don’t classify such women to be predators, because after all, what teenage boy wouldn’t want to be molested? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:06 AM
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Obviously it’s impossible to speak for all men, but I think it depends on the specific situation between the man and his ex. If they split up amicably, then sure, a man may not have a problem hooking up with her. But if she cheated, or the relationship was toxic, he’d probably be disgusted with her and want nothing to do with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:18 AM
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Has anyone else noticed the uptick in female school teachers grooming and raping their male students? Not just high school teachers, but middle school as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:02 AM
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Is it possible that women may just have worse experiences with their exes? Abuse, being cheated on, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:05 PM
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If a woman is extremely attractive, but says or does something unappealing (holds a certain political view I find horrible, treats people poorly, etc) then my attraction towards her will nosedive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:03 PM
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Women aren’t into causal sex in the way men are. Women seem to be just as interested in casual sex when it comes to men that are attractive enough. Women also face more risks than men and their pleasure is less guaranteed than men’s. I’m not sure why so many people here think women will only engage in causal sex as a way to “lock guys down.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:33 PM
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Don’t you think women might actually want causal sex with a top guy because, I don’t know, he’s attractive and she lusts for him? Not necessarily as an “offering”?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:30 PM
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You are deranged. I’m 23M and neither I nor any man I’ve ever met has been aroused so easily. I don’t understand why some people want to paint men as perpetually horny or turned on at the slightest provocation. It isn’t even remotely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:27 PM
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