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1

come on, just a little bit?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 01:07 PM
-6

That's not new, nothing has happened with this case other than speculation but people are acting like its some kind of victory, the article you linked is meaningless clickbait with no substance
/r/PussyPassDenied02/05/20 10:58 AM
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nothing, people just constantly post these stupid clickbait articles that all say the same thing, there's speculation that she could face consequences someday
/r/PussyPassDenied02/05/20 10:25 AM
1

The doctor was trying to be 'woke' and progressive by putting down men but it's not accurate outside of discussions on immune systems
/r/MensRights01/03/20 05:09 PM
38

she got away with it though, pussypass accepted
/r/PussyPassDenied02/02/20 12:25 PM
8

You're not allowed to consider any positive qualities to be associated with men, only the negative ones, the positive qualities are gender neutral and found equally in women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/19 10:21 AM
3

it's obviously a fake post though, comes across as someone trying to make women seem unreasonable and entitled
/r/MensRights28/11/19 11:32 PM
1

But animated Batman doesnt hit female villains...
/r/PussyPassDenied28/11/19 12:58 PM
2

Unless every single woman sentenced for a crime was 'coerced' into doing that crime by a man to explain their shorter sentence then there definitely seems to be a noticeable sentencing gap based on gender.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/19 09:48 AM
4

Young men get coerced into a life of crime too but they're still held accountable for their actions like adults, women criminals are by default assumed to have been victims of abuse at some point that pushed them to such a life so they're treated more sympathetically
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/19 09:00 AM
3

the gender bias on that sub is so blatant and so depressing
/r/PussyPassDenied24/11/19 09:53 AM
13

trollX pretty openly hates men, they're not all feminists though
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/19 12:12 AM
4

Im sure there's lots of anti-feminism subs out there, this sub is supposed to be about pussypasses remember?
/r/PussyPassDenied12/11/19 11:49 AM
6

what do you think this sub is for ? it's not this.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/11/19 01:27 PM
3

r/Pussypassaccepted.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 12:02 PM
1

and she doesnt even help him
/r/PussyPassDenied26/10/19 11:21 AM
19

He was a writer and comedian who worked on Saturday Night Live for years before he got into politics and became a senator, everyone knew Al Franken. Nobody has ever heard this congressperson's name before those allegations.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/10/19 03:17 PM
17

Because nobody knew who she was before this.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/10/19 02:13 PM
12

Killing men wont end patriarchy, countless men die every week and patriarchy isnt affected because nobody cares about men, not even other men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/19 08:58 PM
6

You also believe that women shouldnt play chess against men or that they'll never be good enough to compete against men? You insert unrelated articles onto subs where they dont fit at all just to promote and spread your anti-woman views. Whatever man, Im really done with you, feel free to get in the last word if you want to
/r/PussyPassDenied13/10/19 02:29 PM
2

Take a look at your name, your posting history and your justifications for putting this link on this sub and see if you can figure it out.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/10/19 02:19 PM
7

You are anti-woman but this doesnt fit the sub, move on man.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/10/19 01:06 PM
12

She became a grandmaster at 14.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/10/19 12:47 PM
7

ugh
/r/PussyPassDenied13/10/19 12:45 PM
3

It could be called "anti-woman" but that's not what this sub is and it shouldnt be encouraged.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/10/19 12:44 PM
10

Women can get sex whenever they want, that is undeniably a huge benefit that men wish they could have and they resent that they dont get the same benefit that women do. Having to wear a condom or take birth control to avoid getting pregnant does not take away that benefit even a tiny bit. Men can get off using hands and porn too but it's not the same thing as feeling desirable and attractive like women get to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 04:15 PM
2

the courts would not side with him unless he had her hitting him first on video
/r/PussyPassDenied09/10/19 12:33 PM
145

lol she's not goin to jail
/r/PussyPassDenied09/10/19 12:32 PM
4

Yeah sounds like you have a winning personality there bro
/r/PussyPassDenied08/10/19 03:12 PM
1

If society wouldnt shame and view stay at home dads as losers and failures then it would be super desirable lifestyle. Getting to stay at home all day while a wife earns money would be amazing and then if you do get divorced you'll be taken care of from alimony
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:26 PM
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Yea, bullshit. Avengers: Endgame just had one "girl power" scene. Only one. There were more male characters that were given a chance to shine They purposely wrote the scene to not have any men in it, scenes with male characters dont feel like they're putting down the women or calling them obsolete or making a statement about gender. They also took the time to emphasize how much stronger Captain Marvel was than Thanos and everyone else put together. Only family sitcoms. There are multiple other s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 12:55 PM
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There are fewer female led movies than male led movies but there's definitely not 'very few' of them. Romantic comedies will portray their lead man desirably but in general its considered to be more feminist and empowering when the lead women are not into men at all or if the men are all jerks who get what they deserve at the end. American Horror Story hates it's male characters and makes it's leads strong independent lesbians who get to kill the jerky unredeemable men. Hustlers openly hates men…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 12:35 PM
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Male led movies and shows portray women really positively as attractive and desirable and the lead male characters are always in love with women and motivated by women but female led movies and shows portray their men as negative and undesirable jerks and their leads are often lesbians or just not interested in men. Male led media loves women, female led media hates men. Men are punished for acting feminine or outside of their strict gender roles but sticking to traditional gender roles has also…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 12:17 PM
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I dont see how this fits in this sub at all.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/10/19 03:52 AM
2

Not necessarily but it could possibly result in that. If women found men physically attractive as often as men find women physically attractive and if women lusted after men as much as men lust after women then that would probably lead to women's opinion on relationships vs hookups changing to be more similar to men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 05:52 PM
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Things would be fair if women found men as attractive and desirable as men find women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 05:36 PM
0

Women need men more for the jobs men do for society Men need women more in terms of wanting them, desiring them and needing them in their lives to be happy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 05:05 PM
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I feel bad for you but also like you must be in the minority. In general, men are much more attracted to women than women are to men. Men are openly very attracted to women and desperately want women to like them, the impression I get from women is that they hate receiving attention from men (because they find 90% of them physically unattractive) and would all be lesbians if they could choose to be. Even straight women would rather watch lesbian porn than porn with men in it. Men are motivated b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 10:37 AM
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wtf? i said "would not" make fun of him. But they would think of him as less attractive if he hasnt demonstrated being attractive to any other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 07:30 PM
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Men would openly insult and make fun of a man like that and call him a loser for being unable to attract and sleep with women. Women would not openly insult and make fun of him but they probably would think less of him and consider him a loser and they would presumably consider it unattractive and a turnoff if a man was a virgin and had never gotten attention from other women before.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 04:20 PM
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It doesn’t matter how much value a man puts on it. Society will harshly judge men who fail to attract women and get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 01:00 AM
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I definitely dont hate women, I just kinda resent and feel frustrated about how women dont like or want us as much as we like and want them, it feels like women hate men and only put up with us because they have to while men base their whole lives around trying to impress or earn the appreciation of women and it sucks to be the unattractive and undesired gender
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 12:57 PM
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Id much rather get attention from women than be ignored but to each their own
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 11:19 AM
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why is this on this sub and why does it have so many upvotes?
/r/PussyPassDenied24/09/19 09:06 AM
0

Well over 50% of women are naturally pretty enough to be attractive to men. Basically just dont be obese and even then some men will still be into you. Less than 5% of men are naturally attractive enough for women without having to prove themselves in other ways first
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 02:15 PM
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Nerdy girls are viewed as quirky and attractive, nerdy guys are viewed as creepy weirdos
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 01:28 PM
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I think most men are desperate and lonely would be extremely grateful for any female attention they received from any decent looking woman
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 01:26 PM
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Why do women deserve it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 01:21 PM
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Meeting the minimum standards is enough for women to get her romantic interest and offers, it's not enough for a man to get him romantic interest or offers
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 01:16 PM
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Women get romantic interests and offers just for being women, men dont. Men have to prove their value by having a good job and a charming personality, women just need to be naturally pretty and they're set in terms of romance and sex, men envy that women are naturally desirable and have innate value as a romantic partner that men dont have.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 01:13 PM
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Men and women are ultimately just people but women have a very different viewpoint and perspective than men do and their gender is going to influence their thoughts and feelings. Men and women have a lot of things in common but they view each other and the world very differently. Men are really attracted to women in general and want to have sex with most of them, women are attracted to a narrow range and specific men and just kind of have to put up with the rest of men lusting after them who the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 01:06 PM
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nerdy girls can get hot guys
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 12:59 PM
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I kept waiting for them to punch her or taze her, the mace was better than nothing but they didnt want to use anything on her until she kept kicking that door open
/r/PussyPassDenied22/09/19 12:56 PM
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im glad she finally got maced, i kept waiting for someone to punch her, she assaulted so many police officers and almost got away with it without facing any consequences
/r/PussyPassDenied22/09/19 12:56 PM
1

She got rewarded with a role in a movie made to celebrate the same sort of actions she bragged about
/r/PussyPassDenied15/09/19 07:07 PM
1

You clearly care about this a lot more than I do
/r/PussyPassDenied15/09/19 06:32 PM
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I already disagreed with comparing them but she is currently being rewarded for it instead of facing consequences and that is worth calling out. You get it now?
/r/PussyPassDenied15/09/19 05:30 PM
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Um, my quote still stands. The title states that their crimes were not the same and picture doesnt say they're the same thing, it compares the consequences they faced. That's some real 'superior' logic you've got there. Blind hate? What the fuck are you even talking about? I didnt even downvote you dumbass but I'll be sure to now.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/09/19 05:14 PM
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The title acknowledges they are not the same but I disagree with putting them together because they are different situations. She should be called out without referencing Cosby. They shouldnt be making movies like Hustlers celebrating the fucked up shit she claimed to have done and framing it as 'empowering' and she shouldnt be in it thus getting rewarded for her fucked up behaviour.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/09/19 05:06 PM
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They dont have to be the same for it be fucked up. She also bragged about drugging men and getting them to consent to a threesome with her and a woman who was secretly a transsexual, that's rape by deception. There's a movie out right now celebrating the type of things Cardi B did instead of her facing any backlash for it, that's the pussy pass success.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/09/19 05:02 PM
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Nobody's saying they are the same thing but she bragged about drugging people and taking advantage of them and nobody cares because her victims were men and she's a woman, she gets praise for starring in a movie that celebrates women for doing that exact thing, this is an example of pussypass success
/r/PussyPassDenied15/09/19 04:34 PM
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either way she got away with it so it doesnt belong on this sub, there was no 'denied'
/r/PussyPassDenied15/09/19 01:07 PM
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Men are a lot more attracted to women than women are to men, women decide when/if a man gets to have sex with them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 12:53 AM
2

Women get to be the attractive and desired gender, being born women means that men will be attracted to them and that they will get offered relationships or sex without having to seek it out. It can certainly be a bad thing too when it comes from unattractive men or dangerous/violent men but most of the time getting to feel and be treated like you're desired and attractive and knowing that so many people want to be with you is a positive feeling that women get to feel pretty often just for being…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 06:23 PM
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Male sex offenders are more likely to physcially hurt their victims just because they're bigger and stronger but that doesnt make female sex offenders any less criminal or mean that they are committing 'lesser' crimes or deserve lesser punishments. Male sexuality is more predatory in general but a female sex offender is just as predatory and just as deserving of jail time as a male sex offender.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 01:03 PM
0

It can easily get them relationships so by the time they lose those things in their 40s and 50s it wont matter
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 12:38 PM
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They start with natural value in a way that men dont. They can get careers or create art or try to have a great personality or whatever they feel would increase their value just like men do but it would be in addition to what they get from just being women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 12:07 PM
2

Women's innate value from just being pretty and fertile can take them pretty far
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 11:16 AM
2

But everyone knows what women have to offer. They have value because men want to have sex with them and later for them to birth babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 11:15 AM
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Women are generally born with those things though, they have innate value and desirability
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 11:12 AM
2

Women have innate value because they have babies and men want to have sex with them, men are expendable and have to prove that they have value
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 11:10 AM
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there was no 'denied' here, he was polite in response to rudeness, that's it
/r/PussyPassDenied08/09/19 01:27 PM
1

it would have worked on a lot of guys, he just knew there was a camera there so he couldnt
/r/PussyPassDenied08/09/19 01:25 AM
1

I think our society generally encourages women to dislike men and feel like they "dont need no man" while men are constantly told they need a woman to be happy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 08:55 AM
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Im impressed you could bring yourself to have a boyfriend considering how negatively you think of the male gender as a whole, maybe your hatred of men is why you shove him when you get upset? Women who murder their children are 'less bad' than fathers who rape or murder their children? You cant even just say they're both awful? People do whatever they can get away with. Men are more likely than women to have power and those with power will abuse that power when they know they can get away with i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 09:03 PM
1

It seems either disingenuous or misguided of you that instead of comparing female teachers sleeping with their students to male teachers sleeping with their students you compare them to the most brutal and sadistic tortures and rapes you've been able to read about in the third world, that doesnt seem like a fair comparison. Im sure male teachers use social media and try to make their victims feel good too but both they and the female teachers doing the same thing are both equally rapists. You se…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 08:48 PM
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You can totally argue that men are more likely to rape but now you're arguing that female rapists treat their victims better and their victims suffer less than victims of male rapists? That's a really fucked up double standard you have that you're using to diminish the suffering of rape victims based on their gender. Women are not as likely to do bad things as men are but it's disgusting how you're arguing that even the bad things women do arent that bad because it's women doing them. By ranking…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 07:57 PM
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You clearly dont think men deserve to be treated with as much respect as women. Im willing to bet that you do care and you do consider it sexist and offensive when men insult and generalize women to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 10:54 AM
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Yeah yeah, nothing relating to men or how they're treated matters or can be addressed or even acknowledged as long as some sexists continue to be sexist against women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 10:46 AM
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Yup there's you turning it into a competition again and handwaving away and dismissing anything that doesnt affect you. You dont care about any double standards that disadvantage men and that's understandable but men do care, just like women care about double standards that disadvantage them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 10:40 AM
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If I were to say "Women are trash", obviously that's a sexist statement about women as a whole, there's nothing there to indicate that Im only talking about some women. Making grand generalizing statements about the opposite gender being horrible is considered sexist when it comes from men but not when it comes from women, you know that's true, that's a double standard that benefits you. You cant even acknowledge your privilege and your free pass to say whatever insulting and generalizing things…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 10:30 AM
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Our society considers it wrong and offensive to insult you or generalize you based on your gender but doesnt it consider it wrong or offensive to insult me or generalize me based on my gender. You're naturally upset about double standards that work against you and men are naturally upset about double standards like this that work against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 10:19 AM
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You're handwaving it away as irrelevant because it doesnt affect you. When people insult you for being born the way you are, they are clearly wrong and they are clearly sexist, that's how it should be. Society tells you that even though it unfortunately happens, those people are wrong to treat you that way. When you insult men for being born the way they were, you are not considered wrong or sexist by our society, you'll get retweeted by celebrities and put on buzzfeed articles to celebrate you …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 10:08 AM
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Why are you making it a competition? Why can they not both be bad? Some people treat women like crap in online games, that's what makes you so eager to defend the right of women to generalize and insult men just for being men? People that insult and generalize women are misogynists and are widely recognized as such. Maybe in certain contained online communities those misogynists dont get called out the way they should but they're still undeniably wrong and still viewed as losers by society as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 09:50 AM
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It's considered wrong to insult or generalize about literally every single person on this earth other than white men, then it's acceptable and they cannot be offended by it or defend themselves or else they're fragile and sensitive. Who says "all women are psychos"? Nobody. You've never heard that except from misogynists that arent worth listening to. It's wrong in our society to call women psychos, it's wrong in our society to call homosexuals anything derogatory, it's not considered wrong in o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 09:31 AM
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When anyone insults anyone other than white men they rightfully get called sexist or racist. What psycho woman trope? Anyone who would call a woman psycho is a misogynist. Every group has obstacles and difficulties but not everyone gets the privilege of a free pass to insult, generalize, attack and put down other people with impunity. Men are depressed and killing themselves in large numbers but keep defending your right to generalize and insult their entire gender for how they were born.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 09:07 AM
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Nobody in the world pays any attention to or has any respect for that tiny fringe online misogyny/incel group but it's popular general celebrities and popular websites openly calling men trash and getting applauded for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 08:42 AM
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That's what's being asked of men. To take the blame for what other men do and to take responsibility for improving "men's" behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 08:35 AM
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It's considered and accepted to be wrong for any other genders/races to face backlash for how they were born. The freedom to generalize and insult the other gender without them being allowed to express any offense or say anything back sounds like a privilege to me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 08:31 AM
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Being insulted and generalized because of the way you were born and being told that you arent allowed to be offended by the insults and you arent allowed to insult back (because they deserve more respect than you) isnt the worst thing in the world but it is victimizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 03:30 AM
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I cant since I live in this world, you know, today. How about you? Do you live in the present?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 03:21 AM
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I dont think that someone's gender defines them and makes them responsible for everyone else of their gender. Men arent really allowed to have any sort of gender identity in our society the way that women do, there is no 'men helping men' or support for men in any area but they're expected to police other men and be blamed for their crimes. Whatever it takes for you to hold onto your double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 03:01 AM
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Who's calling women trash? Nobody right? It would be considered extremely unacceptable in our society to say anything like that about women while it's practically applauded and encouraged to say horrible things about men like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 02:57 AM
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You seem to have very different standards for the genders. Women are not responsible for the crimes of other women and when women cheat more it doesnt matter, women need extra support and extra 'justice' but men need to be responsible for the crimes of other men and they need to solve societies problems for the sake of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 02:53 AM
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who wants to be told they're "trash" because of how they were born?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 02:44 AM
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You have a horrible view of men and clearly dont respect them as people. You make really negative generalizations about men to argue against them receiving the support that you want women to receive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 02:42 AM
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Women get to be the attractive desired gender, men put in the effort to win her over and get to sex and if she's not interested in sex then he's better off moving on and trying the next woman
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 01:27 PM
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Men find women really attractive and want to have sex with them, they foolishly assume women are the same and find them as attractive back and want sex as much as they do
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 01:25 PM
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If you said 17-18 year olds I’d agree with you but 15 is definitely too ‘childish’ for most men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 02:34 PM
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Who's calling them brave? She tried to attack them and got tipped over, seems like a pretty straightforward story with the lesson 'dont be an aggressive asshole and threaten people'.
/r/PussyPassDenied07/08/19 11:08 AM
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They pushed her because she was psychotic and shouting about how she was going to destroy their property, she was attempting to attack them, they knocked her over out of defense instead of hitting her. If you choose to attempt to attack someone then you dont get to act like a victim when you get a response from them other than running away. You want to keep defending the aggressor in this situation instead of the people who defended themselves in a mostly non-violent way then I guess we're done …
/r/PussyPassDenied07/08/19 11:00 AM
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She was attempting to attack them and was lucky that she was only knocked over instead of hit. She was making things violent, they defended themselves and did nothing wrong. I guess it's a matter of opinion but Id consider running away from her without defending myself or standing up for myself in any way to be pretty cowardly and it would show her that she was right and that threatening people works.
/r/PussyPassDenied07/08/19 10:39 AM
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They didnt even hurt her when they defended themselves from her, but go ahead and keep defending the psychotic aggressor for no reason cause that's not ridiculous at all
/r/PussyPassDenied07/08/19 09:28 AM
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Running away from minor threats seems pretty cowardly for someone eager to call others cowardly
/r/PussyPassDenied07/08/19 09:25 AM
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I agree that it isnt PPD but she was threatening people and approaching them aggressively. She should have been punched in the face instead cause that wouldnt have been blindsiding her and would have been less cowardly?
/r/PussyPassDenied07/08/19 09:20 AM
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Nobody wants to hear that their gender is 'the bad gender'
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 11:18 AM
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Yeah, it sucks that women are the attractive and desirable gender. Men have to be funny and charming to earn their company.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 01:25 AM
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I think it's social media. Women are encouraged to dislike and disrespect men by always seeing men portrayed negatively in female led movies and shows and celebrities calling men 'trash' and men are 'radicalized' to varying degrees by youtube/reddit anti-feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 10:07 AM
1

She made a joke about what it looked like, someone mansplaining, and he stupidly explained to her the real name of the statue which was irrelevant to the joke, and ironically he did it in a way that was manspaining, the 'um actually' indicates he's talking down to her about something he assumes she doesnt know, thats mansplaining. he owned himself like a dumbass, this is nowhere near related to this sub, its probably already on r/trollx as an example of a dumb man proving her point
/r/PussyPassDenied21/07/19 02:18 PM
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Saying ‘um actually’ is super cliched mansplaining. What he’s saying is common knowledge and doesn’t affect her original point. At no point did anyone get the better of her or prove her wrong or anything. She won that exchange and if you look at the rest of the comments they’re all siding with her and calling that guy out for mansplaining. this is not even close to an example of a woman being denied anything
/r/PussyPassDenied19/07/19 04:19 PM
1

where's the "denied" part? The 'um, actually' comment 100% was called mansplaining in the comments as well
/r/PussyPassDenied19/07/19 11:10 AM
1

Men resent that women dont buy drinks for them, that women dont want to sleep with men as much as men want to sleep with them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 03:48 PM
1

I would acknowledge it as sexual harassment but I would be too flattered to be uncomfortable and her being forward or overly sexual wouldnt be a turnoff
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 06:51 PM
1

If a man is a celebrity and not handsome then he's probably funny or talented or witty and women like those things too
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 11:14 AM
0

Women are encouraged to celebrate other women but a man who celebrates the achievements of other men because of their shared gender would be seen by everyone as a loser who couldnt get his own achievements or a sexist for only celebrating that person for being a man. 'Male pride' and 'male solidarity' do not exist and would be considered sexist by everyone if it did exist. Society does not see men as needing support the way it sees women as needing support, trying to support men would be conside…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 06:08 PM
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I find that to be false because whole swaths of men demonstrate solidarity and pride and brotherhood Ive never seen anything like that but Im not in the army and they are a lot more gender neutral now than they used to be so I dont know if that mentality is still present in that niche group of people. And the solidarity they have is likely more based on their military similarity, not any sort of gender solidarity. The general public considers women the oppressed gender and the male gender as the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 05:46 PM
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Men arent allowed to have a group identity the way women have, there isnt any sort of 'male solidarity', you cant be proud of being a man or want to do things to help men as a whole the way women can do things for women as a whole, men can only do things to help 'everyone'
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 05:22 PM
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I'd keep her as a friendly casual acquaintance and remain on positive terms but wouldnt initiate many conversations or try to spend time with her like I would with a friend. If I have a close friend that I secretly want to have sex with but who doesnt want me back then it's not an equal relationship and Id feel like an 'orbiter' who hangs around her waiting for her to change her mind and date me and Id be looking for signs of interest from her and trying to make myself look attractive to her wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:40 PM
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But again you say you are unable to form a close friendship with women unless they are unattractive to you That's not what I said. It's more difficult and awkward trying to be friends with someone that you'd rather be dating and its not worth the extra effort of having to pretend that I dont find them attractive. I want to fuck attractive women more than I want to be their platonic friend, I have enough friends and while Id happily be their friendly casual acquaintance, I would find it frustrati…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:17 PM
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Different strokes for different folks, do what works for you instead of pretentiously condescending to people about how low their cognitive abilities must be based on their personal feelings towards sex and friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 01:31 PM
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lol You're so enlightened, you should write a book and share your wisdom with the world, how foolish and misguided the rest of us are for being living sexual beings like normal people. I have women that I want to fuck so I fuck them and different women I want to hang out with so I hang out with them, that's what works well for me. You seek out friendships with women you would rather sleep with but who dont want to sleep with you back, glad that works for you but again, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 01:21 PM
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You dont have a dick or sexual feelings? I want to have sex with attractive women more than I want to hang out platonically with them. If I want to have sex with someone and they dont want me back then I move on and forget about them instead of pretending I dont find them attractive and trying to be their friend and appearing to be some sort of desperate orbiter waiting for her to change her mind and date me. You like hanging around attractive women who dont want you, that's cool but I find it d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 12:51 PM
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How attractive I find a woman has an effect on how I perceive her and what sort of relationship I want to have with her, that seems pretty natural and realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 12:31 PM
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Probably attempt a relationship or hookup over a friendship, if the relationship didnt work out or they simply werent interested then probably nothing, it might be too awkward or distracting to attempt a platonic friendship if I wanted to have sex with them and they weren't into me. I work with a lot of attractive women and I see my friend's girlfriends often so I'm used to ignoring their looks and treating them normally so a friendship might still be possible but it would definitely be more dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 12:07 PM
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I have female friends who I think of and treat like my male friends, they are not physically attractive so it's never been an issue and Ive never had any reason to think about them the way I think about 'attractive women'. My group of friends is determined by shared interests and though women rarely have those interests some do and that's what connects us, gender or relationships dont really come in conversation while we're hanging out talking about shared interests or doing activities together.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 11:20 AM
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They are entirely possible and easy as long as the woman isnt physically attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:48 AM
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Women can be weird, offputting, awkward but creepy really only applies to men and implies a slight unstable/dangerous vibe that otherwise 'creepy' women dont give off
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 01:54 PM
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It was less than a year ago. August 2018 and that's when her career ended. Clearly you're very well informed on this topic, thank you so much for all your wisdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:59 PM
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There is nothing on her imdb past 2018.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:47 PM
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Ive occasionally had a few female coworkers lightly rub my arms and back after I started working out more but it was just super flattering cause they were kinda cute. There's always the older ladies that wink at me and always find excuses to come talk to me but they're never persistent or threatening or anything, just annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:40 PM
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She has not acted or directed since she was accused. She lost her job because of the accusations. She was kicked out of the movement she was a leader of. It's usually not taken as seriously but women are not immune to repercussions of sexually abusing someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:24 PM
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https://exclaim.ca/film/article/asia_argento_removed_from_x_factor_italy_after_sexual_misconduct_allegations
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 03:53 PM
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You are claiming that she suffered no repercussions from being accused and I explained to you that she was fired from her tv show, cast out from the movement she helped start and has had no career since then. You have nothing to say or contribute so dont bother responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 03:44 PM
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So you dont have an argument? She had a small career at the time and it ended because of the scandal so yeah, her career took a hit, she's no longer on tv when she was before, how much more could her career have suffered? She was also cast out as a spokesperson for the Metoo movement where she was extremely prominent before.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 03:25 PM
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Most men dont have to abuse positions of power to get laid. But many men do. Lots of men are unattractive to women and dont have access to sex unless they abuse their power to get it. Im acknowledging it, not justifying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 03:04 PM
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What career? She was fired as judge on X-factor and has done nothing else since
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:53 PM
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Of course, women can get sex whenever they want, they dont need power to get it the way many men do and have no reason to associate getting sex with having power
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:12 PM
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Women are less motivated by sex than men in general, women also dont need power to get sex, they can get sex whenever they want without abusing their power over others but sex isnt usually their goal like with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:06 PM
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Asia Argento showed that women with power arent immune to repercussions but in general there's just less examples of them, less women in power and less likely to abuse that power to get sex like men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 01:01 PM
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That's fair, I can understand that perspective. If I could change one thing about women, it would definitely be to make women as attracted to men as men are to them, our biology's always gonna be different but Id love it so much if women admired and desired men's appearances more
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 11:25 AM
2

You see having sex as a woman like jumping through flaming hoops? Can you explain the metaphor?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 11:04 AM
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I think that's just how male sexuality is different from women's. Men dont need emotional bonding or to know about her personality to desire a woman and want to have sex with her. I dont know if prioritizing looks is necessarily toxic, just different priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 10:56 AM
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In 2019 if a man explains something to a woman and she happens to already know anything about that topic, then it's mansplaining and he's a misogynist, it would not be worth the risk of attempting something like that. A strong independent woman wouldnt want a man to tell her what she should drink. Asking about how much she knows while looking for a chance to show off your knowledge would seem braggy and arrogant and he should assume by default that she wouldnt need or want his help.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 10:23 PM
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This is kinda ridiculous. Its nice that your husband does this for you and that it works for you guys but a man isnt lazy or low effort just because he doesnt automatically start explaining the menu to another adult he's with, that's not expected of men when they're out with women, it's expected that he'll treat her as an equal. He's supposed to assume that she's well educated and independent and that she doesnt need him, he shouldnt assume that he knows more than her about anything. Like other …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 09:00 PM
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Based on how stuck up and full of herself you described her as, nobody would want to date your friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:14 PM
4

How much effort does it take to read your own menu?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:08 PM
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You have a lot to say about how impressive this woman is (and yet you keep calling her a girl?) but needing help to order off a menu makes her seem kinda dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:06 PM
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She’s an adult and shouldn’t need help to order food while complaining about him being immature and uncultured
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:04 PM
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I thought she was a smart, strong, independent woman? She needs to be helped with the menu? Maybe she should stick to fast food, I’ll bet she can read those menus
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 04:58 PM
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What did she need him to help her with?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 04:52 PM
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After being teased and frustrated for a few months lol what kind of man would stick around for months without getting anything from her? What makes her worth that? ​
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:06 PM
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My biggest gripe is how straight women can often be more into women than they are into men, how women in general want and desire men less than men want and desire women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 12:55 PM
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Yeah it was grown men who were super into twilight...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:28 AM
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are grown men upset that teenage girls like teenage boys and don't have an early and life long preference for 35 year old, established men? This is probably it. Adult men find teen girls hot and are resentful/jealous that those girls like a different type of guy than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:27 AM
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your anti-man comments are just as broad and dehumanizing and dont make any more distinctions than that person's anti-woman comments, you can just admit to being a hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 04:51 PM
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I literally told you exactly what to search, if you wanted to know then you'd know by now, Im so fuckin done with this, you dont even have anything to say other than asking me to google common knowledge things for you, I dont care what you think, goodbye
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 08:27 PM
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There are straight women in this thread talking about watching it. Like I just told you, pornhub releases their search results every year, im not gonna google that for you. There is straight porn geared towards women but lesbian porn remains more appealing to them. If straight women would rather watch naked women than men and are just as aroused without any men present then they're not as attracted to men as men are to women because straight men cannot take women out of their fantasies and still…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 08:05 PM
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fuckin google it, it's common knowledge that straight women watch a lot of lesbian porn, pornhub releases their search results every year
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 03:40 PM
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The top search result on porn sites for female users is 'lesbian'
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 03:09 PM
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I dont feel any need to provide you with anything, the fact is that straight women choose to watch naked women over watching naked men, draw whatever conclusions you want
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 11:17 AM
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Straight women choose to watch lesbian porn over straight porn, they clearly dont find men as attractive as men find them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 03:44 AM
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If straight women were as attracted to men as straight men are to women then they wouldnt choose to watch other naked women over watching naked men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 12:22 AM
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Laws are upheld by society. Women dont need men sexually or romantically as much as men need women sexually and romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 03:32 AM
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I didnt realize we were talking about rights in the middle east, oh yeah, we werent. What do women need men for once they have rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 02:45 AM
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How you can you say that? You openly hate and dehumanize men all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 02:05 AM
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Men both want and need women more
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 01:58 AM
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I agree with you that it's possible for someone to find both genders equally attractive and I agree that most straight porn is made for a male audience but if even straight women can replace men with women in their fantasies and it's still just as arousing for them then that answers the title question and women are less interested in men than men are interested in women because to those women, men are replaceable and unneeded and that's not how men view women and their attraction towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 03:47 PM
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Nah, I couldnt care less about proving anything to you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 03:42 PM
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That is common knowledge and accepted fact. Men are generally more physical attraction based and women generally take into account a man's voice, posture, intelligence, charisma and personality when deciding his attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 03:30 PM
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You agree that men desire women more than women desire men but you still disagree with the title question? I do get what you're saying, bisexual people exist and it's possible to like two things equally but I dont think all women are bisexual and I dont think all women who watch lesbian porn are bisexual. If straight women can be just as happy and sexually satisfied by watching women instead of watching men then they dont feel the same attraction to men as straight men feel towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 03:19 PM
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Men cant live without women because they're so attracted to them, women can just replace men with other women. Choosing to watch women over watching men means that men dont have the importance to you that women have to men. Men need women in a way that women dont need men, men desire women a lot more than women desire men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 03:00 PM
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The fact that removing men from your porn doesnt make it less sexy or attractive for you indicates that men are less important and vital to women's sexuality compared to how women are extremely important and vital to men's sexuality. Men are more attracted to women than the reverse because men cannot take women out of their porn or fantasies and still find that porn or fantasy arousing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 02:12 PM
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Women literally provide for themselves and literally dont need a man, that's a fact of modern life. They have jobs and support themselves. You're the one making claims about how women are hardwired with nothing of substance to back it up despite how it contradicts the accepted fact that women today work and support themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 12:53 PM
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Women dont insist on being let into those places because they're attracted to men and want to be around them, they just dont want to be denied entry because of their gender, they want the right to go to the club but they're not interested in the men at the club. BTW, Boy scouts started letting in girls because they were losing members and needed the money, women were against that decision because it's taking girls away from girl scouts. And men are infinitely more interested in intruding on wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 12:44 PM
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Male only spaces arent really a thing anymore, it's sexist to exclude women. And men would generally want women around all the time, if only to look at them and to be in their presence, men get enjoyment just from being around attractive women and dont go to places with the goal of being away from women. The fact that women can replace men in their fantasies with other women is indicative of the fact that women arent that attracted to men. If men are removed from their fantasies and men are not …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 12:35 PM
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In general a woman has to get to know a man's personality before she finds him attractive, men find women in general attractive and desirable. A man walking down the street will notice and feel attracted to many women (maybe 50%) compared to a woman walking down the street and occasionally noticing a man who stands out. Men go to places because they know women will be there and they consider that a plus, women go to places because they know men wont be there and they consider that a plus. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 11:32 AM
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Women provide for themselves and dont 'need' a man at all
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 10:40 AM
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Definitely not. Women can be attracted to a man to the same degree that a man is attracted to her but it's much more specific and slow developing. Women dont have the same general attraction to men that men have towards women in general, a woman walking down the street wont feel attraction towards men that she passes by. Men consider the presence of women to be a good thing, women consider the presence of men to be a bad thing, that's why they go to women-only gyms and schools. When Wonder Woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 10:30 AM
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You dont think a woman can rape a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 04:28 PM
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That might be the biggest difference between men and women, I can't imagine any scenario where I find a woman attractive but for some reason dont want to have sex with her
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 04:26 PM
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You would want your SO to slink away from someone who slapped your ass and you wouldnt think any less of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:54 PM
3

Shouldnt you be pushing that advise to people on the red pill or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 08:30 PM
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19 is young, I didnt start dating until my early 20s. Being unattractive sucks, I know from experience but the biggest thing is to not look for a relationship to define you or to make you happy. Being with a guy isnt going to magically make you into a happy person, you have to do that on your own and make your life one that you like and are happy with, then you can find someone who wants to share that life you've built and who wants to share their life with you. I think it's probably easier for …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 08:23 PM
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jesus christ, i hope she doesnt listen to you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 08:05 PM
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lol no they're not, women dont want to date without sex either
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 10:08 PM
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Women are fully capable of enjoying relationships that dont end in marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 09:32 PM
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It's weird that in these situations men are required to take responsibility for the women's choices and she can't be treated like an adult. I gotta agree, if you dont want something, learn to use your words and say 'No' so that the other person knows instead of letting them do it and then resenting them for it. Men are bad at picking up subtle nonverbal cues so just use your words. These women are functional adults who are responsible for their own lives in every other way right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 12:34 PM
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Wouldn’t the friend overruling her friends romance based on her personal feelings be the shitty friend? What right does she have to decide who her friend gets to be attracted to? Standing in the way of your friends relationship is a shitty thing to do
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 02:31 AM
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Nobody wants to date ugly people. Looks matter less for men, they can make up for it in other ways, but you still need to look decent
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 03:28 PM
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That's a pleasant surprise and not something Id expect a modern political party to bring up
/r/MensRights14/12/18 01:34 PM
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I think girls should continue to be encouraged to go into STEM and other underrepresented areas, I wish things were better for boys in school but I think the improvements we've made for girls should stay and continue to be worked on
/r/MensRights14/12/18 01:21 PM
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That is a positive thing but they would never openly say that it was intended to help boys right?
/r/MensRights14/12/18 01:19 PM
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I dont get what you're arguing? Men supporting men is not realistic or necessary but it if existed it would be a positive thing that would benefit men. It's not possible because men dont want to help other men the way that women want to help other women, men want to focus on themselves and their families.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 03:24 PM
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Support is a positive thing. The OP is saying it would be positive if it existed between men. You are saying it's not necessary (and I agree), but you havent said that it wouldnt be positive if it existed. It's not possible anyway so we're wasting our time arguing about this hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 02:57 PM
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I dont think anyone here is making the argument that it is necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 02:49 PM
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um, ok? You view positive support as a negative thing? It makes you feel macho to say online how 'real men' never need help? You're a badass lone wolf huh? You view girls as an insult and something that boys shouldnt have anything in common with? I dunno, I think support among men is unrealistic but would only be a good thing if it existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 02:43 PM
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women supporting women is a thing, men supporting men is not
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 02:16 PM
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Men are too competitive, they would never support other men if it would be better for them to focus on themself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 01:32 PM
0

Older men are expected to sure, but it’s not a requirement for women in order to be found attractive. Success in men is attractive to women, success in women is meaningless to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 11:10 PM
2

In general a smart, ambitious career woman would only be interested in a smarter, more ambitious career man
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 05:10 PM
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If she's really smart and ambitious then I dont bother because she's only going to want someone just as educated and someone even more ambitious with a great career
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 04:25 PM
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It's not difficult, it's pleasant. I enjoy working with attractive young women more than anyone else and I treat them politely and respectfully and like a normal employee but stick to light banter more than overt flirting, just trying to seem handsome and charming to them without having to make a move or take a risk. Casual chats with attractive young women are very enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 11:58 AM
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Being more attractive to women is why men want to make money and be successful
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 03:34 AM
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Women have innate value, a man has to prove his value by providing something. A woman who outearns and outachieves her man doesnt need that man and he's going to feel like he doesnt deserve her and could be replaced by someone who can provide something he cant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 03:31 AM
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Only if her status affects what she looks like, awkward or having a low paying job doesn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 11:55 AM
2

Why shut down the option if Im interested in dating her and she might be interested in me later? I'll talk to other girls but keep friendly with her to keep that option open
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 01:59 AM
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C. She did say "friends first' implying something more would come later. Being her friend doesnt cost me anything and if I stick around I might get to date her when she's ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 05:55 AM
1

Some men choose not to behave in a stereotypically 'masculine' way, go ahead and call them pussies and faggots all you want bro, nobody cares
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 07:19 PM
1

Do you go around telling women that they're not being feminine enough for you? Why would anyone care if you think they're not masculine?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 07:03 PM
1

Lie and tell her that I would have liked her just as much when she was ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 06:53 PM
2

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 03:59 PM
1

What is this, the imdb boards now?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 12:51 AM
1

I would find her slightly less attractive, likely wouldnt be a dealbreaker
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 06:50 PM
1

I don’t think that’s necessary but maybe the ambition or passion will make you more appealing to some men who have similar degrees or level of income
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 10:12 AM
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Based on her responses she's making her choice based on what men will find more appealing and I told her to do what she wants for herself, get the hell outta here grump, not everyone wants or needs to go to medical school to have a happy life
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 02:13 AM
1

Maybe you spend too much time on reddit talking to redpillers, they don’t represent men. I think you're wrong. Most men are comfortable with their partner making significantly less than them, as long as they contribute something instead of being deadweight, men like feeling needed and appreciated by their partner and are willing to put more finances into a relationship if the woman is appreciative and shows that she respects him for it. Men are not looking for or expecting a 50/50 split on all b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 11:19 PM
1

So you want a man with a good job and to get that you think you need a good job too?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 10:29 PM
2

Sure but most women would consider it a huge turn off or a dealbreaker if their partner had significantly less ambition education and income than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 09:32 PM
1

Ah well sure, as long as he can match or exceed you in income then he doesn’t need degrees
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 08:45 PM
2

Women very very rarely are interested in ‘dating downwards.’ If it works for you great, he must be super talented and handsome to make up for not being able to match you in intelligence or career or ambition or money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 08:00 PM
2

Career is infinitely less important than looking decent, being pleasant to be around and having compatible personalities. If you want a degree, that’s legit great and I’m happy for you but do it for yourself and not as a way to get a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 06:18 PM
2

Definitely the second one. I don’t care at all how much money she makes but a woman with a PhD will only ever want to be with a man who has as many or more degrees and makes as much or more money than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 06:15 PM
1

I’d like her to be happy and enjoy her job of course but for the most part I don’t care what she does for a living as long as it’s not making her miserable or super stressed. If she’s a super high achieving workaholic then I’d lose interest immediately and assume she’d only want to be with someone equally as hard working and dedicated to their job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 07:34 PM
7

Little boys occasionally getting to hear ‘men are amazing!’ in their media the way little girls get to hear ‘women are amazing!’ all the time in their media would only be a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 09:26 PM
7

Group identity for women isn't necessary today either but it's a positive thing women get to partake in that is denied to men. Achievements of individual women get to be celebrated by all women and they get to be part of something bigger than themselves, 'team woman' and they get to take shots at 'team men' but there is no 'team men'. Little girls get told 'women are amazing!', little boys get told 'everyone is amazing!'. Men already do get grouped together and given credit but only for the nega…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 01:50 PM
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Calling everyone who's not naturally physically attractive 'beta' doesnt disprove anything. Men are less likely to ignore looks in favour of personality. You know that. Everyone is shallow but men are more shallow when it comes to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 11:06 AM
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oh come on now. A man's personality can make for his lack of looks with women in a way that a woman's personality cant make up for a lack of looks with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 10:57 AM
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In our lifetimes men as a group are not allowed to be celebrated or acknowledged as contributing good things to the world and men as a group can only be credited for negative things some men do and have done. The question here is what is considered un-pc and giving men credit for the good things men have contributed fits that perfectly. Women are allowed to have a group identity and celebrate women as a whole, men cannot have a group identity or celebrate men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 10:37 AM
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Nobel prizes go to individuals, men as a group cannot be acknowledged as contributing or inventing positive things the way women as a group get to be celebrated for he things individual women contribute or invent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 10:06 AM
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Historically women were more restricted and prevented from achieving as much but today it's considered un-PC to acknowledge men's achievements but normal to celebrate women's whether they be old achievements or current ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 10:04 AM
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But the achievements of women get grouped together and celebrated as 'great things women have done'? Women are individuals but also have a 'team women' that they get to be part of but men are not allowed to have any sort of group identity the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 09:29 AM
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When men do things they're attributed to those individuals, not men as a whole. Unless it's a negative thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 08:58 AM
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We can acknowledge and celebrate women’s achievements and inventions and go ‘yay women!’ but it wouldn’t be acceptable to celebrate or even acknowledge the much larger number of achievements and inventions that men have made with any sort of ‘yay men!’ articles or videos or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 08:36 AM
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You find it hard to respect women who have sex with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 03:05 PM
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Physical attraction and compatible personalities are all that matter, if people of comparable salary brackets are consistently getting together it's probably because they see each other a lot, I can't imagine caring about my partner's job or having it affect my desire to be in a relationship with them but sure, maybe some other men put a lot of value on that for some reason I dont understand. Guess we'll never know.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 11:41 AM
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A man wouldn't want to enter a relationship with a prostitute or stripper sure, but men dont look down on waitresses or cashiers for not being ambitious enough. A woman's job is not important to men and doesnt relate to her value as a partner while a man's job is important to women and directly correlated with his value as a partner. Having a successful career and ambition is a burden men have to take on as a requirement to get a partner but it's irrelevant for women in terms of finding a partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 11:28 AM
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I dont believe a woman's career has any effect on her desirability or her ability to attain a LTR. A man is not going to find a woman attractive but then back out of a relationship because his partner doesnt make enough money. Men judge women on a lot of things but not on their jobs. Having two large incomes is a practical concern but I dont think it's something men consider important at all when evaluating which women to enter into a LTR with but a man's career and level of ambition is always g…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 10:25 AM
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A woman having money is practically useful and helpful but has no effect on her level of attractiveness. A woman finds a man more attractive if he has a successful high paying job and lots of ambition, the reverse is not true. A woman does not need a successful career to find a mate even if such a career could bring material bonuses to the family later.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 12:19 AM
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You're arguing about the practicality of having a dual income household, and yes of course it's better to have more money. Im arguing about how a woman's career and ambition has 0 effect on her actual level of attractiveness and desirability whereas it is essential for any man to be a desirable mate and a man without a career and ambition is automatically much less attractive. I cant even imagine breaking up with a physically attractive woman because she's not ambitious enough or her career wasn…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 12:14 AM
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I don’t see why not. If anything a woman with a high paying career would be less desirable because any man would know that she would only want to be with someone who makes as much or more than her and is as intelligent or more and as ambitious or more ambitious than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 11:51 PM
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A physically attractive waitress is 100% equally desirable as a physically attractive ceo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 11:46 PM
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No man cares how much money his wife makes unless it’s leading to the family starving or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 11:44 PM
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Lying on the couch all day demanding to be fed is one thing, a physically attractive woman working any sort of extremely low paying job is completely different and entirely acceptable to all men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 11:43 PM
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A successful career is essential in regards to a man’s value and irrelevant in regards to a woman’s value.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 11:38 PM
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If they expect to be waited on without pulling their weight and without contributing something of value to make up for a lack of job. I don’t care about my partners career unless they’re unemployed, not looking and not making up for it in another way. A career is expected of all adults but a woman does not need a career to get a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 11:29 PM
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If a man doesn’t have a well paying career he’s not viewed as a good mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 11:23 PM
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As a man, I can tell you that I couldn't care less about a woman's career as long as she's not obnoxiously lazy, selfish and entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 01:16 PM
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Women are expected to be able to take care of themselves, they are not expected to be able to financially support a family as a requirement in order to be deemed a good mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 01:14 PM
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Men have the burden of having to prove themselves and demonstrate that they're a high value mate through their careers and personalities as well as being seen as generally disposable while women have the burden of having to look good as well as carrying and giving birth to children
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 12:36 PM
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I dont trust anyone automatically but i know that a woman would be less likely to want to hurt me and less capable of doing so, i would never have a reason to be afraid of a woman but there are many hypothetical situations when i would feel like i need to keep my guard up and be careful around men i dont know well
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:39 AM
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Sex isnt the goal for women but they're not opposed to it, committed relationship arent the goal for men but they arent opposed to it. Both trade something they have to offer for something they want and they compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 03:47 PM
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Having money allows men to date the most attractive women? Why wouldnt they want to date young pretty women if they have access to them? Doesnt that say more about the women dating rich guys who are much older than them?
/r/BlackPillScience18/06/18 01:30 PM
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The fact that the man is also giving the woman sex means nothing, because all they want is a committed relationship. Both sides wants something different and work together to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:07 PM
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Men develop sexual attraction to a woman right away based on her looks and he feels that towards a large segment of women, there's potential mates everywhere he looks. Women develop sexual attraction to a man based more on his personality and what he's like to spend time with so just by looking around she's less likely to see people she considers potential mates without getting to know them first and women tend to have more specific tastes in men. As a man I've envied how women get to feel attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 12:07 PM
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Physical attraction will always be more important than personality or anything else but a 6 or 7 doesn’t sound too bad, I’d still find her physically attractive enough that the rest would be a bonus. 5 or lower with everything else perfect, definitely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 05:27 PM
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Physically attractive and pleasant to spend time with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 11:49 PM
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If you never meet or have time to talk to men you find attractive then you should probably just make an online dating profile and start messaging people here and there when you have time, it doesnt take much time or commitment to have a look and see if anyone nearby fits your criteria
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 10:25 AM
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Dont let hypocritical redpillers get you down, everyone settles for the best partner they can manage to get, there's nothign wrong with that and they're still attracted to who they end up with
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 10:21 AM
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You're being silly, picking cam girls is like watching porn, people pick what they find the most attractive to look at but they have wider ranges of interest when picking out realistic romantic partners, dating and camsites are not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 10:16 AM
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Men want the prettiest woman they can possibly get but that doesnt mean they're not happy and satisfied with whoever they end up with when they think they cant get anyone prettier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 10:07 AM
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It seems more comparable to a wife leaving her husband for someone else when he loses his job
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 12:48 PM
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It's super tricky and fragile and can fall apart easily, it's a lot easier if either of them are gay or really unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 12:07 PM
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If you're attractive then he probably wants to date you or at least sleep with you but make sure to call him 'buddy' or 'pal' if he starts flirting
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 03:02 PM
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Women complain and fight against and try to even out the advantages men have over them, it's not exactly productive but it's only natural for men to also envy the advantages women have over them. Women want to be respected for their intellects and personalities the same way men want to be desired for their looks and attractiveness, though both are equally unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 04:28 PM
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Ok you've just got a different definition of incel than most people. Most male incels are in the same boat as you in terms of finding a long term relationship but they dont have the option for sex that you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 03:09 PM
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You won't know if he's the guy of your dreams for a long term relationship but if you see someone you find attractive you could still approach with the goal of just sex and you could definitely find some men who would say yes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 03:03 PM
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I think you're putting too much importance on that. Women would be more turned off by a man with mental illness than the reverse, most men wouldn't care that much if the woman was weird or bad at social things, it's easy for men to be deemed too 'creepy' and denied sex because of it but it's much more difficult for women to be deemed too 'creepy' or 'awkward' by men to the point that they can't get sex. I agree that mental illness is a common trait among all incels but I feel like drastically un…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 02:56 PM
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Talks about positive masculinity would have been a wonderful thing to have had when I was in school and if that's going on now then that's a great development
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 01:48 PM
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I dont really find the term offensive but I think some men do because 'toxic masculinity' is the only kind of masculinity anyone ever talks about and there's no clear distinction between what is toxic and nontoxic masculinity so people assume all of it is toxic. But yes, it's been said many times before that even when something is seemingly hurting or disadvantaging men, it should be looked at as mostly disadvantaging women instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 12:28 PM
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Aw so you're just stringing along some desperate guy whose really into you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 09:05 AM
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Of course I want her to enjoy it, Im going to enjoy it regardless so when I put in the effort to make sure she enjoys it too then it'll probably happen again and her being into it makes the act more enjoyable for me in the moment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 09:02 AM
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I dunno, Im otherwise healthy and in my 20s and just now getting over ed after forcing myself to seriously cut down on porn
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 02:26 AM
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We both know that promoting one gender over the other is sexist. Deny it to yourself if you need to. You can't argue against that fact so you have to pretend the slogan says something else. So yeah, I guess we're done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 06:23 PM
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The future is male = sexist. The future is equal = sexist. The future is female = equality. That's some pretty creative interpretation you're going through to pretend blatant sexism isn't sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 06:08 PM
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Dont worry, nobody's going to take away your natural female right to be sexist against men. Go ahead and raise women at the expense of men, it doesnt matter. You can believe in and promote whatever antifeminist gender inequality you want to (as long as it's not an antiwoman slogan, that would be actually sexist right?). Your version of feminism is framed as 'girls only' promoting girlpower instead of promoting feminism and I think slogans like this will make little boys who see it feel worse abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:52 PM
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It's literally what the slogan you support says and you're the one incapable of debating why it's not sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:43 PM
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But that point of view requires making up a new meaning that is pretty different than what the slogan actually says. Saying that you want the future to be one gender is the same thing as saying you dont want the future to be equal between the genders. It's a harmless fluff slogan to promote #girlpower but it's still by definition sexist. It's designed to make little girls feel good about themselves but it's naturally and unnecessarily going to make little boys feel worse about themselves. Your v…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:40 PM
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The past was male and that was wrong, the future being female would be just as wrong. You say you understand why I would see it as sexist but you can't explain why it's not sexist, unless you believe women cannot be sexist? Advocating for the future being specifically one gender means making it purposely not equal, making it about just you being ahead of the other side and in full control is directly putting the other side down. Feminism to me is about equality, not female supremacy which of cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:18 PM
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It's advocating against equality, seems antifeminist to me but maybe you have a different definition of equality or feminism. Men dont get to wear or say anti-woman, pro-male slogans because they are sexist, women can be sexist too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:58 PM
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It's unnecessarily sexist and disrespectful. Any feminist who wants equality would be opposed to the slogan.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:46 PM
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Western media and society encourages and celebrates insulting, hurting, generalizing and disrespecting men while encouraging the opposite treatment for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:44 PM
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You treat everyone you meet like shit? Maybe you're just an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:50 AM
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Go live in the fuckin wild
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:44 AM
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I find that really hard to believe. I've never met any openly bi man but most of the women I've been with were openly bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 12:22 PM
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Women want men who are doctors, men want women who are cheerleaders
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 12:12 PM
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No, her status couldn't matter less in relation to how attractive she is. But if she had lots of degrees, a high paying job and was super accomplished then I wouldnt bother attempting anything with her though since she wouldnt want me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 12:10 PM
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It was a long time ago but I do remember reading that around 91% of men and 89% of women think men are funnier. Women are attracted to funny men, men have had a reason to try to be funny. You're so quick to give women credit for being smarter, more empathetic, harder working, etc but you really cant just acknowledge that men are funnier?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 10:50 AM
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I think in general men like women more than women like men. Men desire women and want to be around them, men enjoy being in women's presence and having sex with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 12:40 PM
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You wont see any comedy movies where a female character gets her genitals injured and/or mutilated for comedy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 08:15 PM
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laughing at unattractive or mangled male genitals has been a standard in comedy movies since there's something about mary like 20 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 05:03 PM
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there is already a lot of male nudity in movies today and it's not slowing down, i think it could be used in a positive context instead of always a negative one
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 04:55 PM
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no of course not, women dont do that sort of thing. i was disagreeing with the person who said that unsolicited cunt pics dont get hate, i think they would be viewed unfavourably if they happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 04:18 PM
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ooooh, you're crazy, ok i thought you knew what you were talking about, nevermind. There are infinite women who can tell you that they do in fact like fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 03:39 PM
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I dont think that humanity finds the male body as universally disgusting and unpleasant to look at as you do despite how it's often framed like that in movies. A man can be sexy, having a penis doesnt make him less sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 03:29 PM
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Men are not desired for their sexuality alone like women are. A male love interest character is going to still need to do more than just get naked to get the female lead and female audiences to drool over him but a positively framed instead of negatively framed nude scene wouldn't hurt if the female lead is already drooling over his character's looks, personality, charisma, charm and achievements.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 03:19 PM
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I would like to see a male character presented being as nude and sexually desirable for a change. In most male led comedies the lead will drool over the female character the whole movie and she's presented as sexy and desirable and usually ends up with him at the end. There's other things happening in the movie but her role is framed as being positive, attractive and desirable. I dont think men play that role in female led movies, they dont do nude scenes other than for comedy and there's usuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 02:57 PM
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I dont think that's accurate. Women drool over handsome actors and feel lust for them. A male character played by a handsome actor can easily be sexy and I dont think anyone would complain if he was presented unclothed in a positive light instead of being made fun of.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 02:47 PM
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Id like men and women to be treated equally in raunchy comedy movies. Female protagonists can express attraction towards male characters but male characters are not presented in the same positive sexy and desirable manner that female characters are presented with male protagonists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 02:41 PM
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I can understand it being seen as demeaning in a way since it highlights that character's body and doesnt care about their personality or role in the story but it's also putting those female characters up on a pedestal and framing them in a positive way, making them seem desirable and sexy and letting them fill a positive role for the protagonist. Id like it if men were able to fill that role in women-led movies and shows but men dont get to be the 'sexy desirable love interest character' with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 02:20 PM
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Im pretty sure Magic Mike only had female nudity in it. There's Something about Mary was the first one that kicked it off but mangling or even just showing male genitals for visual gags has become standard in comedy since that movie, there is no female equivalent, female nudity is always used to make that female character more sexy and not to make her the butt of a joke about how gross and unwanted her naked form is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 02:06 PM
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Sure female characters can express attraction for a male character in general but I dont think I know any movie directed at women has ever showed a penis or framed a male nude scene in a similar sexy way that movies directed at men use and frame female nudity. There are so many raunchy comedies today that mangle or destroy male genitals for visual gags but Ive never seen the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 01:28 PM
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aw, you're sweet. there's nothing wrong with it and plenty of guys will be content to wait for you but most girls dont make the guy wait, if he wants sex and you wont give it to him then he will be tempted to go to someone who wont make him wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 01:03 PM
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I see it as what I get by being with this person. She seems to like it as much as I do so not so much a reward, Id expect it even if I hadnt made her dinner first or whatever, it just results from being in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 12:58 PM
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Have you ever seen a dick in a movie being framed as desirable like female nudity always is, or when it wasnt being used as a gross out gag for being naturally disgusting or being graphically mutilated or destroyed for the audience to point and laugh at?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 12:51 PM
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Some random lady I dont know who I probably dont find attractive sends me a closeup selfie of her pussy with no context, im not gonna find it very arousing either
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 12:45 PM
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Male comics write/talk about dick jokes all the damn time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 12:41 PM
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Male nudity in movies is 100% used for comedy, audiences laugh at and are disgusted by penises while female nudity is always done as sexual and framed as desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 12:40 PM
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I assume they're lesbians and dress that way because they dont want men to pay attention to them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 12:08 PM
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damn dude, you must really suck at debating huh? You can just admit that you can't argue against what Ive said, that you have no argument, that you can't answer the questions I've asked you and that you just dont want to admit being wrong. It's ok to admit you cant counter any of my points.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 02:21 PM
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Violence against women in movies is normalized. Full stop. It is pervasive. Women get murdered beat tortured and raped in cinema. It is not a new or shocking or novel thing to see that in a movie. I am not comparing it to men, which is why you don’t see the point. You seem to be the one avoiding answering questions. And yes, you clearly dont have an argument after all. Violence happens to men and women in movies. That's your thesis huh? You are right about that and not much else. Violence happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 12:27 PM
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You said violence in movies against women is normalized. What did you mean? Just by being presented at all or by how it's presented? Because in both cases I dont see how you have an argument. Violence against men in movies is much much more common and it's presented as funny or justified or badass much more often than violence against women. What is your point here? Movies about predatory men and serial killers and abusive husbands frame them as unsympathetic villains and the women they hurt as …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 04:31 AM
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Its acceptable to have armies of male henchman be slaughtered by a male or female hero but you can't possibly have an army of female henchman, mostly-female henchman or even half-female henchman get slaughtered by a male hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 09:13 PM
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In literally all those examples the violence against women is presented as a bad an unjust thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 09:03 PM
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She got stood up for dinner once. That's not much of a revenge. In movies about women getting revenge on men they usually get to carry out actual revenge on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 08:49 PM
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It's not a revenge fantasy for a male character to get back at a cheating ex by destroying her property? The only revenge a man can take against a woman is rape and murder? I dont remember much revenge being enacted in that movie. It didnt have the same feeling as a movie where women team up to get revenge on a man for cheating and the whole movie is his suffering and pain being played for laughs and always justified, the reverse of which would never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 06:49 PM
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Yes, I acknowledge that there are very very rarely films (maybe one a decade or so?) that feature a female antagonist and a male protagonist. The topic of this thread is how it's considered acceptable for women to destroy a man's property after a bad breakup or after being cheated on. Were any of these instances of men enacting revenge fantasies against women for cheating on them and being framed in a positive light or were they just instances of the antagonist being defeated at the end of a mov…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 06:42 PM
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I dont even know what this is but it seems to be framing the woman's death as a very tragic and emotional, uncomfortable and unfortunate moment rather than any sort of fist pumping "heck yeah! She deserved it!" revenge moment, maybe in context of the whole series it makes it seem like this was a good thing but watching this I dont get the impression that this woman's murder is something to celebrate and I didnt get the impression that killing this woman made him heroic, in this one scene he seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 04:38 PM
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Is there any situations in which you consider sexism against women justified?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 03:11 PM
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Um framing revenge from women against men as always a positive and justified thing is celebrating it. Men killing women is shown to be a bad thing and the man is punished for it. The women who take violent revenge against men in movies are the protagonists of their movies and their actions are celebrated and presented as righteous. Have you ever seen women getting violent revenge against a man get punished for it afterwards or show him as the victim? That would be showing and not celebrating it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 03:03 PM
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The thing you're bringing up has nothing to do with this post. There are movies that have men killing both men and women and those men are framed as villains. That is entirely irrelevant to the discussion of how it's socially acceptable for women to take violent revenge on men or their property after a breakup. Can you imagine a man burning his girlfriends clothes or car without torturing and murdering her? That would never happen and if it did it would not be framed as justified the way it woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 02:54 PM
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There are countless movies based around the premise of women getting revenge on a man and literally none based on the reverse idea, in those movie the actions of those women are entirely and always framed as justified and funny and revenge of a woman against a man is always celebrated. A killer in a movie who kills men and women is a villain who gets punished at the end, so no, not the same thing at all. One is celebrated and framed as a good thing worth making a movie about, one is a bad thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 02:42 PM
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But there is no reverse. Ive never seen any movie with a man getting revenge on a cheating woman framed as a funny justified fantasy. Men murdering women in movies is not funny to men or a revenge fantasy so I dont see how they're similar at all, why bring up men murdering women in movies? It's framed as a bad thing, not a funny justified fantasy men want to live out like women getting violent revenge on cheating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 02:37 PM
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What films have men celebrated for murdering women? When men murder women in movies it's because they're the villains, not the protagonists whose actions are framed as positive things. Do you mean slashers where a killer kills both male and female victims? Is that what you're referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 02:26 PM
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Women getting violent revenge on men for cheating on them is always always always framed as a positive, funny and justified thing, those men deserved it so it's ok. men mutilating women in movies is always framed as a bad thing that the men get punished for at the end because those women would never be framed as 'deserving it'.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 02:21 PM
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"the sexism there seems rather justified"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 02:18 PM
1

Most men aren't losers who are afraid of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 11:50 AM
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Average looking guys can get hot girls by making up for their looks in other ways. An average looking guy can be funny or ambitious entertaining or rich to get a hot girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:37 AM
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He had no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 04:39 PM
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then dont?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 03:48 PM
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So you've changed your definition of potential again to be about how many STEM jobs they have as a gender now? Even though you're still using women's physical advantages as indicators of superiority while ignoring men's? Yeesh, you dont have an argument you just want to wallow in self pity and feel like feminists are keeping you down. Im so done with this. Goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 03:38 PM
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Explain to me how it comes up. How often do you find yourself wanting to tell people around you at work that women are bad at math?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 03:36 PM
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So your entire argument is about IQ testing now and not differences in general like in your list of premises? Your whole list of premises is based on ignoring the advantages men have over women and pretending they dont exist while only including the advantages women have over men. Of course it's going to give you the results you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 03:15 PM
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Making negative generalizations about groups of people based on stereotypes is generally frowned upon in civilized society, yes. Do you often find yourself wanting to remark at work about how women are bad at math?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 03:13 PM
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Feminists are arguing that employees should not be paid less automatically for being female. If loggers are paid by the hour then yes a female logger should be paid the same as a male logger. If a particular job is specified that it's paid by how many trees you cut down per day then yes of course you get paid for how many you cut down and nobody is arguing otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 03:10 PM
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A book from 70 years ago said that? So nobody you've ever met and nobody alive actually believes it then?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 03:05 PM
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Can you provide one example? I dont think this is a real idea that anybody is pushing on anybody. Men and women's bodies are different, that's pretty accepted scientific fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 02:13 PM
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I've literally never heard anybody making the argument that "there are no innate differences in potential/ability between men and women". Who is saying this? Male and female bodies are different, I genuinely don't believe that you encounter people arguing otherwise. Your premise is extremely flawed and you're using a strawman argument. Hypothetically if we willingly ignore the ways men have advantages (like muscle development, resting heart rates, ability to shed fat) and purposely look at just …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 02:01 PM
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You have no argument, you just really hate and resent men huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 04:42 AM
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It terms of working out and working on appearances women put in way way more effort. That's what women have to focus on to be attractive. Men are required to put more effort into other areas like trying to be funny or planning out fun dates and working hard at their job. That's what men have to focus on to be be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 12:07 PM
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men want to be attractive to women.............
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 04:33 AM
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Yeesh. Thinking of them as one uniform entity is the wrong approach. You know that women actually have a wider range of what they find attractive than men do? Men tend to go after the same small percentage of women and consider the same things to be attractive but each woman has her own unique personal taste of what she finds attractive. Some women find chubby guys cute, some women find big noses attractive, some women like muscular guys and some don't, some women find short guys cute, some wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 12:23 AM
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yes, literally to make yourself more sexually attractive. Women care about personality in addition to looks, if you lack looks you as a man have the option to make up for it in other areas. Ugly guys can still get girls if they're funny or really good at something and those girls arent there just for the guy's money but because they want to be with someone who is funny or good at something and are willing to compromise on looks to get the other qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 06:33 PM
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A point made out of emotion, personal opinion and hyperbole with no facts to support it is not a worthwhile point in any debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 01:01 PM
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Bringing up a point that you can't back up when called out on it, means it was an especially weak and meaningless point, that's your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 12:56 PM
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...you kinda suck at debating
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 12:54 PM
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You're probably right. Even if women likely could be united together against men, men like women more than women like men and you could never get men to unite with each other against women, they all want women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 12:51 PM
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Oh god, get over it. Men have more options than women to make themselves more attractive. You dont have a good jawline? Get a talent. You're short? Learn to be funny. You're scrawny? Get a passion. Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 12:36 PM
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There is a market for women-only gyms, schools, movie showings, concerts, clubs, cab companies, the appeal is that men will not be there and so women want to attend these things due to the lack of men. There is no market for such things for men because men want to be around women and the idea of an event or location banning women does not make it more appealing to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 05:02 PM
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Women don't have to pay hookers, if they want unattached sex they can get it for free easily
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 12:09 PM
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Men put some effort but less effort into their appearances than women because men have to focus on having an ambitious successful career, being funny, planning fun dates and always knowing the right thing to say, these are things men are taught that women care about more than looks. Women put more effort into appearances because men don't care about their careers or plans or personalities the way women care about men's. Women as people of course have jobs and plans and everything but to be desir…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 02:12 PM
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Women have to work harder on their appearances than men do, but women don't have to worry about having a successful career, lots of ambition, a winning personality or being interesting like men have to focus on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 10:43 PM
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Men dont want men only spaces, there's no movement for such a thing from any men. Men want to be around women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 08:33 PM
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online men complain about everything. In the real world women want to be surrounded by men a lot less than men want to be surrounded by women. Women go to places knowing there won't be men there and they consider that a positive, men go to places knowing women will be there and they consider that a positive. You didnt say companionship, you said company, men want to be around women more than women want to be around men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 08:32 PM
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That's the complete opposite impression I've gotten. Women go to women only gyms and concerts and colleges to get away from men but men would never want to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 02:27 AM
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Movies like Wonder Woman that show off powerful women without belittling and putting down men (like ghostbusters and arguably TFA) do very well with audiences of both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 01:22 PM
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She's Kylo's match perfectly in the guard fight and takes out half of them herself. She does at least as well if not better than Kylo during that fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 01:13 PM
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He's lying in a sliced up heap at her feet, she was untouched. The ground stopped her from ending his life but she definitely defeated him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 01:02 PM
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She hit him over and over and beat him into the ground without getting touched. She leaves him sliced up in a heap at her feet without getting scratched once or even being tired and out of breath after the fight. It completely neutered the villain going into episode 8, after 8 Kylo still isn't threatening to her but at least they feel like equals now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 01:01 PM
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I disagree with you about the praetorian guard fight. If anything, Rey comes across as better and more impressive than Kylo. She seemed to be Kylo's exact equal in that guard fight, they each took out four but Rey didnt need Kylo to save her during the fight like Kylo needed Rey to save him at the end, if anything she seems to be holding her own better with a lightsaber without ever having a lesson with one. she's shown that she doesnt need training, she's instantly kylo's exact equal in seeming…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 12:59 PM
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A) Compared to Luke it felt like she was handled with kid gloves and never allowed to look bad or be dependent on anyone or be less than anyone else in any way and she had to be treated with respect, love and/or reverence from everyone she met and she overcomes every obstacle by herself due to her natural amazingness in every way, she can never be helpless or in need of someone to rescue her. She never met anyone who could do anything she couldn't do just as well or better even if she's never do…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 05:44 PM
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If the central hero of a hypothetical movie was a man and most of the supporting cast were women and that man was written to be naturally the best at everything, gets to rescue his costars but never needs them to rescue himself, instantly loved by everyone he met and his thorough mental and physical superiority over every female character was emphasized in every scene he shared with them then it might stand out a bit to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 03:14 PM
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Poe now
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 08:10 AM
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You dont have anything to tell me because you know you dont have an argument. I make points and you have nothing. You just say things and hope nobody calls you out on being wrong huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 08:04 AM
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He flies and shoots a ship in his spare time, he said that in the movie, he learned about the force from a master and used that to enhance his existing skill and he aimed one shot at the end in a ship with similar controls to what he was used to after some more coaching from his master (and while being rescued yet again). She's a scavenger so she has every skill in the world, fine, whatever. But Rey was also using mind tricks, force pulls, mind probes, force flying and force fighting outta nowhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 07:58 AM
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The problem is that you said they were the same. You made the claim that they are both Mary Sues even though only one of them is written to come across as the most amazing character in every scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 07:34 AM
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So one of them is written to be much more generally impressive than the other in their first movies?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 07:28 AM
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Except that Luke had one or two skills at most, he owned a lightsaber but wasn't ready to use it yet, his friends could do things he couldn't do, he shared the spotlight equally with his costar at the end and was unable to beat the villain himself, he often gets reduced to helplessness and needed to be rescued by his friends. Rey always rescues herself from danger, has every possible skill the writers could think of right from the start plus whatever force power would be useful to overcome whate…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 07:21 AM
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Except in the other two trilogies
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 06:13 AM
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His humour was based around being deprived of dignity so the audience could laugh at him and his misfortune or his stupidity. He was often made to look bad to make Rey look good in his first movie, not to mention needing to be rescued every single time he encounters danger. His role was to follow Rey around and to fail at things and then it was to follow Rose around and to fail at things. He had no knowledge from being a stormtrooper and doesn't seem to be good at anything after a life of condit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 06:10 AM
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No it's not and you know it. He aimed accurately once. That was it. That was the extent of his force powers in his first movie. Rey pulled off incredible flying maneuvers without knowing how she was doing it her first time flying that ship, she blocked Kylo's mind probe and succeeded at one of her own, she mastered the jedi mind trick in 30 seconds, she demonstrated a stronger force pull than Kylo and succeeded perfectly her first time trying it, and then beating Kylo into the ground without get…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 05:55 AM
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Finn was Rey's comedic relief sidekick (the bumbling space janitor) in the first movie and was pointless filler in the sequel. He could have easily been cut out of both movies with very minor changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 05:40 AM
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Luke had no romantic options (and the lack of female characters was a legit problem), Rey has three romantic options and will choose to be alone because her ending up with a man isn't empowering enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 05:35 AM
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Rey's a strong independent woman, of course she don't need no man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 01:54 AM
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Luke is not a Mary Sue. He had one or two skills in his first movie and needed his friends to rescue him all the time. His big moment of using he force was just used to aim one shot and he could only make that shot after being rescued yet again by his friends. You can't even compare how he was presented compared to how Rey was presented in her first movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 01:48 AM
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It felt that way moreso in the first movie where every scene with Rey was just showing her being better than every male character at everything. She felt like she was written by a committee to be the ultimate role model for little girls who can do anything and everything by herself and never needs a man to rescue her. I liked that she and Kylo actually felt like equals in this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 01:38 AM
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I have no sympathy for someone complaining about having too many people who want to date them to choose from. Your point about fuckboys can only mean that all men are fuckboys and online dating is useless for women because there are signifiers about which are good quality or shit quality, those being their pictures and profiles. Getting just a few responses to choose from wouldn't be any improvement if whoever you go out with is going to be a fuckboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 07:40 PM
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Hard to pick from dozens and dozens of offers of people who want to go out with you? That's not a real problem. Guys have to pick from the masses too but without receiving any indications of interest from those women first. What disadvantage are you setting people at? Just flip through your catalog of potential dates and pick someone if you find them hot and if you like their profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 04:33 PM
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You don't have to write anything, if you're hot then you'll get hundreds of offers to pick from, that sounds like a pretty sweet set up so stop complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 09:46 PM
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Feeling that you have to live up to societies expectations in order to even be a man is not entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 03:58 PM
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There are examples of misogynistic things that have failed to be taken down, Im sure the vast majority are removed without issue. "Women are scum" would be taken down immediately, you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 03:27 PM
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Why would you give them funny looks and try to make them feel self-conscious?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 03:08 PM
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Some progressives use it as a joke and some 'progressives' use 'men are scum' legitimately and genuinely stress that they mean it about all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 02:55 PM
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Sexism against anyone should be removed, saying an entire gender is scum is sexist and should be taken down.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 02:52 PM
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Im pretty sure most offensive and slanderous or sexist content gets flagged and taken down regardless of gender. #Killallwomen would get taken down just as fast as #Killallmen
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 02:50 PM
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No, men don't care. If she's pretty then how can you test that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 05:21 PM
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I thought those were mostly posts about how awful women are but Im not very familiar with those subreddits and they're generally looked upon with little to no respect by most people. Posts or articles about women being amazing are fine and nonoffensive but they're accepted and encouraged in our society and media and they're everywhere. I've never seen any mainstream genderflipped equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 11:43 PM
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Women supporting women is not the same thing as misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 09:13 PM
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There are instances where a man might see another man in a situation he's been in and finds sympathy for him and that commonality unites them but the idea of helping someone just because they're the same gender as you is something that's openly encouraged only for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 08:48 PM
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Women definitely do these things to each other but society and the media strongly tell them that they should always support and encourage other women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 08:46 PM
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I'm vaguely familiar with redpill but it seems way too focused on hating and blaming women to be the sort of thing I'm talking about here. I might be wrong but I don't think redpill is related to the idea of men supporting men like women support women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 08:44 PM
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Men consent to parenthood when they choose to have sex, women should simply have to consent to parenthood when they have sex too
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 08:26 PM
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Men have to work on their looks plus their status/personality to be found attractive to women while men dont care about women's status/personality so they only have to work on their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:57 PM
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Being found attractive without having to do anything besides work on your appearance would be amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 02:24 AM
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It can be a lot to ask but guys have to work a lot on their looks too plus tons of other things like being ambitious and successful at your job and having a winning personalities and always sayings the right thing and those are things that women don't have to do to get a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 02:21 AM
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If she's good looking then she doesn't need a job to be respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 02:08 AM
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Yes, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 05:54 PM
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For the same reasons people wish to correct imbalanced that benefit women at the expense of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 05:47 PM
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Dr nerd love has some good advice but essentially says women are never responsible for anything and men are horrible people in general
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 07:00 PM
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It's going to be called a feminist triumph because it's about a woman overcoming and killing countless men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 05:29 PM
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Yes that's super creepy and horrible but it's not unsurprising. Men are very attracted to women (much more than women are attracted to men) and they're generally pretty desperate for women to think about them or react to them. They don't receive compliments and attention from the opposite gender like women regularly do and they become desperate for any response from a woman they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 06:15 PM
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It's not about sex, men in general are not so much a priority for most women as women are a priority for most men. Men like being around women and will go to places because women are there, women sometimes like being around mixed gender groups of men and women but would never go to a place because men are there, they're more likely to go to places because there are no men there. Men like receiving attention from women, women dont like receiving attention from men, they just suffer through it mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 06:08 PM
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crazy women are dangerous to children, crazy men are dangerous to everyone. I've never thought of crazy women with guns as something that exists and is a threat that I might encounter in my life but I guess your dad knows how to pick them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 01:09 PM
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No, I dont think they probably would if they even saw it as abuse. Yes of course many women dont report their abuse at the hands of their husbands but you cant possibly deny that men are significantly less likely to report the same sort of abuse from their wives, they would assume no one would believe them or care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 12:55 PM
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women have the same options men do but they also have the safety net of being wanted by men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 12:46 PM
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How likely are men to report being the victims of domestic violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 01:32 PM
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Men are just as likely to be victims of domestic violence but they usually brush it off and dont consider it abuse, male on female violence is simply much more likely to cause death or serious injury
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 01:29 PM
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Men and women can both be crazy, but male craziness is actually dangerous and scary and threatening while female craziness is just sad and pitiable
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 01:27 PM
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ok I get what you're saying. Women have narrow taste individually but there is some difference from woman to woman in who fits their individual narrow taste. Its a bit of a bummer that all women consider the vast majority of men unattractive but we dont know if they as individuals are any less attracted to the men they actually deem attractive compared to how attracted men as individuals are to the many women they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 05:03 PM
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But its not a fact, its an assumption. It's a fact that women as individuals generally have very narrow taste and find the majority of men unattractive, it's an assumption that these women all have different opinions on which select few men are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 04:54 PM
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I dont understand how youre getting the impression that women have diverse taste when women as a whole only consider 1 out 6 men attractive? There's nothing in that graph to indicate that the women were selecting a diverse range of men as attractive, they each only found one out of six men attractive and they were likely all selecting the same few men as the attractive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 03:21 PM
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Rating the vast majority of men as undesirable indicates a narrow range of interest not a diverse one
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 02:46 PM
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Its a weird mix of men not putting in the effort to be attractive and women having really high standards
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 01:41 PM
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yeesh
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 01:37 PM
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yeesh, you went out with one or two jerks and it made you write off a whole gender huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 01:31 PM
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Maybe its testosterone, maybe its being bigger and stronger and thinking you can get away with doing what you want, maybe its that men have more power and more freedom to do bad things? I dont know why it is but it seems pretty undeniable that most of the really bad people in the world are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 01:25 PM
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it tells us that women dont find men very attractive in general but sometimes theyll find one thats acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 01:15 PM
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Of course women are less attracted to men than men are to women. Men want to be in women's presence but women often go to places because no men are allowed there and they consider that a positive. Men want women to like them and pay attention to them and its always a good thing, women just kind of put up with male attention unless its too threatening or creepy which it often is. Women are always talking about how crappy men are and how they dont care about men's opinions of them while men are pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 01:08 PM
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A high value man is someone who is attractive, responsible, ambitious, a mindreader, hardworking, confident, fit, as well as interesting and entertaining. Someone that women would want to be around or be with. A high value woman is someone who is attractive, independent and pleasant. Someone that men would want to be around or be with. IDK? No pill? My reasoning for 1 is based on what men and women are looking for in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 12:27 PM
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Women have a safety net that men dont have. Women are desired and can live off just the desire and attraction men have for them in addition to all the normal options.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 12:38 PM
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No but all (decent looking) women will have plenty of men willing to support and take care of them if they want it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 12:36 PM
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If you were attractive and flirted a bit or implied that you liked them then yes that would work on many men, it works online if you promise to send nude pictures. There are a lot of desperate men out there who want women to like them and who dont know how to make that happen
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 12:31 PM
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that only works in person
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 04:12 AM
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If you're even a decent looking woman then you will always be wanted and be worth something and be able to take money from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 02:47 AM
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Every man finds just about every average/above average looking woman attractive though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 02:38 AM
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But if you're decent looking then all of them secretly want to have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 02:36 AM
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Its possible if the woman is unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 02:26 AM
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I never considered it before but if a woman's social skills were as bad as you describe I wouldnt be able to go out with her even if she was hot. I cant imagine anyone hot being that clueless though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 02:19 PM
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