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Hey no it’s all good. That’s what Reddit is for, it’s a safe or safe-ish place to vent and get stuff out to strangers whom for the most part, are here to listen, be supportive and offer advice and feedback. I like to think there’s more good people than trolls. From what you’ve described that’s definitely a discrepancy in cleanliness standards. Made worse by the fact that you don’t have enough space for you both to have your own private areas. I’m not speaking from direct experience but from what…
/r/RedPillWomen24/08/23 02:08 PM
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Are there any games you could play together? I’m talking games like Telltale’s The Walking Dead or Life is Strange, where you can sit together and make choices that affect the characters and story. Like the interactive shows on Netflix like Black Mirror: Bandersnatch. Or if you’re in any way inclined to donsome gaming with him together, there’s co-op games like It Takes Two that you might find enjoyable? Not all games are black holes of guns, violence and chaos. There’s some really nice chill st…
/r/RedPillWomen24/08/23 11:24 AM
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Video-games offer a sense of reward and accomplishment much faster than other hobbies like learning guitar/arts and crafts. It’s the power-fantasies of genre fiction films/TV with a feedback loop designed to keep giving players hits of dopamine the stronger they get. This is why so many games have RPG mechanics now - the grind. You can massively pad-out the duration of any game by requiring players to commit to a fuck-ton of level-grinding, rare resource collection, fetch-quests and busy-work to…
/r/RedPillWomen24/08/23 10:42 AM
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Because it’s not a double standard. It’s like saying one woman getting pregnant 10 times from 10 different men is the same as just one man getting 10 different women pregnant. Women are happy to share high-status men. So are more willing to tolerate male promiscuity. It doesn’t affect women’s certainty over whether she can trust that her children are her own or not. Men don’t have that biological privilege. Men have to trust that women are loyal and that the children they bare are his. So it’s m…
/r/RedPillWomen16/08/23 01:25 PM
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Being ‘incel’ isn’t supposed to mean angry and resentful but that’s the way culture’s taken the term whether literal involuntary celibate human beings of any sex or gender like it or not. Being ‘woke’ wasn’t supposed to mean someone overly-zealous to identity politics and narcissistically morally superior but that’s the way culture’s taken the term whether more even-handed social justice leftists like it or not. Going ‘MGTOW’ and ‘red pill’ obviously didn’t (necessarily) begin with the intent to…
/r/MensRights09/08/22 04:08 PM
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It’s heteronormative behaviour that’s been ingrained from literally hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. Makes have to prove they’re capable providers. It started because female humans are indisposed and vulnerable while pregnant and nursing children into adulthood. They can’t do everything else on top of the childcare so the males have to be the ones going out of the cave risking their lives hunting dinner. Eventually that’s turned into females needing assurances ahead of procreation th…
/r/MensRights24/07/22 11:34 AM
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Cut her in half and count the rings
/r/seduction02/07/22 09:51 AM
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It’s certainly created the false idea that dating is harder without them
/r/ExRedPill12/04/22 11:45 AM
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I’m not single. I’m in a relationship with a woman the same age as me.
/r/ExRedPill31/03/22 11:28 AM
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At the risk of sounding misogynist - and I’d hesitate to say whether I think this is my own actual take on the matter (more of a cynical musing if you’ll allow it) - that perhaps older men go for younger less experienced and ‘baggaged’ women because it’s easier for men to see women like that as a ‘do-over’. Men past a certain age will have possibly made big mistakes with being a good/faithful husband and/or father. They see the younger unburdened women as their chance for redemption. This is als…
/r/ExRedPill30/03/22 04:34 PM
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I’m not saying you’re wrong because that’s the obvious conclusion and it would be sexist of me to suggest that one sex is more capable than the other to handle their emotional and financial baggage. It’s down to the maturity of the individual after all. That’s why I said a younger woman is still less likely, LESS.
/r/ExRedPill30/03/22 04:20 PM
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I’m 36 now and I still definitely find women in the early to mid-20s far, far more physically attractive than women my own age. Mental attraction and personality, well that’s all subjective and relative. I’ve met women whom at age 22 were more mature than some women I know age 32 who are STILL yet to grow up etc. Maturity and wisdom isn’t guaranteed with age. At 36 I still personally wouldn’t date anyone younger than, say, 25. 23 at a push. My perspective is that 23-25 is old enough to have had …
/r/ExRedPill30/03/22 12:26 PM
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They’ll let you know immediately, reactively if you smell good to them
/r/seduction08/01/22 09:25 PM
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And she’s a right evil cnt in *‘I Care A Lot’** / Amazon Prime, 2021, directed by J. Blakeson, also starring Peter Dinklage (who played Tyrion Lannister in Game of Thrones)
/r/MensRights16/11/21 03:28 PM
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Yes! Let’s get a better representation of the fact that women are equally capable of being just as evil, selfish and incompetent as men! Rosamund Pike can’t play all of those characters
/r/MensRights16/11/21 10:43 AM
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Ask yourself honestly if there has EVER been any real sexual tension or flirting between the two of you since you met…because that WOULD have been there this whole time regardless of whether she had a boyfriend or not. A decent human being/girlfriend would just not overtly acknowledge or act on the sexual tension. They’d understand that boundary. So don’t assume there was always an attraction there or sexual tension when there actually wasn’t. Be very careful as this could go very wrong if you t…
/r/seduction06/11/21 04:07 PM
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The conversation really does need to show that it’s not a zero-sum game without that concept being confused with enforced ‘equity’
/r/MensRights21/10/21 08:36 PM
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True, there are too many useful idiots willing to nod and smile so as not to become a target for witch-hunters. But that’s still different than being an ideologue.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 08:26 PM
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I suppose I should have qualified that sentence by specifying that thankfully *IN OFFLINE LIFE they’re the minority and can be ignored. To me they’re just loud, angry and obnoxious online which gives the impression there are more of them than there really are.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 06:23 PM
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Lord no. I believe that human society across the planet needs to integrate MORE broad-spectrum feminist principles to free the women of the world’s less economically developed countries/societies from TRULY patriarchal/theocratic tyranny. I am, however, sick and tired of the extremist, loudly vocal radical feminists - largely spoilt brat western white women jabbing the finger and accusing males of essentially ‘original sin’ for being born the way we were. Thankfully they’re the minority and can …
/r/MensRights21/10/21 12:35 PM
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I’ve had a girl who has outright told me she doesn’t want children STILL literally tell me ‘it’s YOUR willy, so it’s YOUR responsibility to wear a condom’ - as if it’s only my sexual health on the line and solely my responsibility to provide birth control. She was approaching the scenario as an equal. The implication seemed to be if she got pregnant then it was someone I did to HER because I didn’t wear a condom(!). Pretty sobering. I will NOT be going in raw with her ever again which is what I …
/r/seduction10/10/21 06:45 PM
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The amount of times I’ve matched almost all the lotto numbers on a ticket but each number is like, one or two digits off. Doesn’t bear thinking about. I just buy a ticket for the next draw and get on with life. If I win the jackpot I win the jackpot. If I don’t…well…I dont! I see it the same way with women. I tell myself that like men, they also know for certain after a few seconds or moments of meeting me whether they want to have sex with me or not, too. That I can’t talk a woman into sex if s…
/r/seduction16/09/21 11:36 PM
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A misdemeanour if no financial resources were defrauded from the male named on the birth certificate. A felony if they have. No statute of limitations.
/r/MensRights10/09/21 09:56 PM
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That’s some hateful Elliot Roger bullshit, that’s what I think!
/r/ExRedPill05/09/21 12:12 PM
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If you want to raise a child, adopt one. Be a single dad.
/r/MGTOW201/08/21 08:13 PM
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Can confirm. It’s your brain/penis playing tricks on you. Love is sticking around to clean up your partner’s diarrhoea, through long-term physical and mental illness etc etc
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 04:22 PM
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Red pill = (mostly) misogyny and self-victimising resentment that results in anger and a desire to control the narrative and women Black pill = nihilism and sometimes despair about the entire dating system that denies any redeeming qualities about it at all to the point they aren’t even that angry and just give up and think it’s better to just disconnect. The most wilfully ignorant of the two, IMO PLEASE NOTE this is just my perspective on what differentiates Red and Black pill people/communitie…
/r/ExRedPill15/07/21 02:16 PM
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It’s a hyper-rationalist, materialist, bad-faith biological essentialist reaction to the social upheaval of the last century - those (continuing) upheavals principally being women’s liberation (the pill, equal rights) and rampant late-stage capitalism having a compounding effect on most male’s typical expectations of life and their roles within society. It’s core purpose? Probably to just stroke egos and offer some form of consolation to bitter and disillusioned young men who aren’t where they w…
/r/ExRedPill12/07/21 01:14 PM
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Wow. What an ungrateful c*nt.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/07/21 03:22 PM
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I saw that on my recommended page. Can’t be bothered with it. Though Dan Stevens is a great actor and should probably be the next James Bond (assuming they won’t make Bond a wheelchair-bound asexual Indonesian for diversity/woke points)
/r/ExRedPill04/07/21 11:04 AM
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I feel bad for her insofar that she does realise what she sacrificed and saw it for real love and now regrets it. I’ve seen many women online not even get as far as that moment of self-realisation and continue bitching deep into their 30s and 40s that it’s not them, it’s everyone else. At least this woman understands she brought this on herself.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/07/21 10:59 AM
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Is this not a prank? It sounds like a prank
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/06/21 08:12 PM
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Am I the only one who feels like she doesn’t really come across as that angry? I’ve read far worse, unhinged, hateful and anti-male tirades than this. This is vanilla. She seems halfway open to discussing her feelings and coming around to a fairer, more egalitarian perspective.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre02/06/21 09:12 PM
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To be fair based on that graph she’s right to point out how the increase 2019-2020 is particularly pronounced in Japan’s female population. Men’s rates stay the same at 22.9 suicides per 100k people while the women’s went from 9.4 to 10.9 suicides per 100k. If we REALLY want to be pedantic then the headline could remove mention of sex/gender entirely and just be: ‘Suicide rates in Japan decrease over 10 years’
/r/MensRights29/05/21 10:52 AM
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Incredible
/r/PussyPassDenied14/02/21 09:51 PM
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$16K a month = $192K a year. Ten years of that is $1,920,000. Halle Berry is reportedly worth between $70 and $80 MILLION. In principle she might be correct - because the same law that requires her to pay $16K a month is also the one that requires a hard-working father to give up 75% of his meagre monthly paycheque working at McDonalds to an ex for a kid she hasn’t let him see for months or years who is thinking of just killing himself. ...But excuse me while I cry a fucking river for Berry feel…
/r/MGTOW210/02/21 11:32 PM
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It’s a really simple calculation. If the energy or enthusiasm you’re bringing to the table isn’t being met online or IRL then you just cut your losses. Everyone has different tolerances and metrics for that though, which is why people misinterpret how well the ‘getting to know you’ stage is really going. If the other person expects you to do all the emotional labour and won’t meet you halfway, at such a basic stage at the very, very beginning, it becomes clear you’re being USED for validation - …
/r/seduction12/01/21 01:01 PM
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No, but I am a little prick
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/01/21 10:14 PM
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Sure, I’ll give it a crack.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/01/21 09:13 PM
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I slept around in my 20s. I’ve learned my lesson. Now I sleep asquare.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/01/21 08:53 PM
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To be fair there are plenty of men who do exactly the same and compare their lives to their friends and then wonder why they’re alone. She doesn’t really go into enough detail about what she herself typically does or how she behaves in a relationship, nor does she exactly specify what her friend is doing differently to her. She’s blowing off steam and sounds a little entitled as a result, but if she doesn’t think to go into any more detail about what makes her approach to romance and dating diff…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/21 03:12 PM
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Is a ‘hooks up’ what a pirate gives to convey approval?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/01/21 06:38 PM
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I feel really sorry for your daughter, from your description it seems like something terrible happened to her that she didn’t recover from mentally and so over her 20s hit the self-destruct button but lives in a culture that keeps her in denial about what she’s let happen to herself and allows her to indulge it shame free. But that guilt and shame is still there deep inside and she’s using most of her mental energy to stay in denial and make excuses for herself, externalise any responsibility. E…
/r/MGTOW203/01/21 12:04 PM
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Deliberately starting a fire that then goes on to kill people is murder. If you hated the person whose phone you’re microwaving and they survived a fire if they then told the cops they feared for their life from you then you could be charged with attempted murder.
/r/seduction02/01/21 07:22 PM
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I didn’t say switch the microwave on! A typical microwave works like a faraday cage (it has to because of the radiation), so a phone hidden inside can’t receive any signal from the outside! So you couldn’t call it from another phone to find it. She’s only ever find it if she opened the microwave door. I suppose if you’re feeling extra spiteful yes you could turn the microwave on, but then that could be construed as attempted arson/murder and put you in prison
/r/seduction02/01/21 06:02 PM
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I just assume ‘no’ from the get go 😂
/r/seduction02/01/21 05:39 PM
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I wasn’t being serious. I wouldn’t really treat someone like that. But that’s kind of the point I was making about how some women will be towards men after the fact. They’ll make you feel bad about what might have been knowing that it wasn’t ever really a possibility. They’re doing their own version of it. It’s being a ‘Nice Girl’
/r/seduction02/01/21 04:52 PM
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I learned this a long time ago. It’s sad in a sense because you have to give up on any romantic idealism that movies and TV has hoodwinked you into believing. Don’t believe them if you ever run into them again weeks/months/years later and they say that they had a crush on you at the time and wish you’d done/said something because it’s usually just a sadistic, narcissistic lie. They know damned well they weren’t attracted to you back then - they’re just angry and offended that you didn’t chase th…
/r/seduction02/01/21 02:33 PM
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Form an orderly queue lads
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/01/21 01:52 PM
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You know where you stand when she agrees to a coffee date but then halfway through starts complaining that’s she’s starving and hasn’t eaten all day. When someone did that to me on a first date a few years ago I just told her the supermarket was still open if she wanted to buy herself a quick sandwich. Obviously if the date goes well and I actually like her only then will I consider spending more than the cost of a few cups of coffee/drinks on her. It’s sad that too many women seem to think that…
/r/MGTOW202/01/21 10:46 AM
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I mean, I don’t necessarily see anything wrong with this though as a general effort for any given woman to be more open-minded towards what she might typically get bamboozled by, should she be someone susceptible to bamboozlement? Is this not the same as men telling themselves that the 10/10 physically astounding heiress with deep-seated sadistic, abusive and narcissistic tendencies is also ‘not attractive’?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/20 06:25 PM
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I’d sooner kill myself than get married to a modern woman raised on patriarchy theory because deep down I wouldn’t be able to shake the feeling that she is reluctantly and resentfully engaging in a relationship with me. That she actually sees me as nothing more than a dog to be trained to her liking because her feelings matter more than mine because Feminism. Fuck that.
/r/MGTOW230/12/20 06:06 PM
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Hybristophilia but she’s in denial about it. Poor woman. One day, when she realises what she’s sacrificed and how she’s been used...I hope she’ll have the right people around her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/12/20 04:27 PM
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She sounds like an energy vampire frustrated that a tired person has nothing left for her to leech off of
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/12/20 03:03 PM
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I don’t see anything intrinsically wrong with these goals except maybe 5.b & 5.c which are too vague and open to interpretation
/r/MGTOW220/12/20 06:41 PM
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You can ‘pump and dump’ each other if it’s mutual, I guess. However there’ll always be one party more emotionally invested than the other. Not necessarily the woman, either. I’d be upset if any woman I was romantically attracted to pumped and dumped me! I think the extremist anti-male feminist and the resultant knee-jerk anti-feminist misogynist rhetoric has made modern men and women suspicious, intolerant and impatient with one another. It does make us question what a ‘healthy’ heterosexual rel…
/r/MGTOW209/12/20 12:33 PM
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Keanu Reeves? Not for any reasons relating to renouncing relationships with women per se. I know he has had those relationships and I know he has suffered great tragedies. It’s more that he appears to have responded to those unfortunate events by carving out a zen-like niche for himself as being happy doing his own thing whether he’s doing it alone or not.
/r/MGTOW206/12/20 01:33 PM
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She just sounds like a nasty person to be honest. Men can be just as cruel and disrespectful when dumping women. The crying thing is awful though. She obviously doesn’t give two fucks about his feelings. Not that it strictly matters but also, you couldn’t have known the ‘full’ story just from over hearing her on the phone.
/r/MGTOW205/12/20 07:24 PM
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Amazing
/r/PussyPassDenied15/11/20 03:43 PM
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Yeah, it seems like she just wanted an excuse to accuse a man of mansplaining. What a cunt.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/08/20 09:39 AM
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/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/07/20 01:07 PM
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I think many people - men and women - think a Wedding is the same thing as a marriage and that a marriage is the same as a loving committed relationship. Which is fucking dumb. It’s like signing up for a minimum-term gym membership - it’s a document that doesn’t change anything day 1 except to say you’ve made the LEGAL commitment. It’s up to you to make the most of it, and there are consequences if you change your mind and try to pull out.
/r/MGTOW213/07/20 01:54 PM
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I think it’s pretty dehumanising to be honest and not especially different from the equally fucked-up idea that men are just selfish, lying horn-dogs whose wallets deserve to be exploited.
/r/MGTOW213/07/20 12:01 PM
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Men direct insults like these to others men online all the time. Quite how you could have turned this into a exclusively gendered thing is surprising. The reasons why some women might resort to these insults is different but let’s not pretend men make equally as vicious value judgments about other men’s sexual proficiency, social standing and usefulness.
/r/MGTOW210/07/20 12:29 PM
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The secret is to do it all in your head or while you’re dreaming.
/r/seduction09/07/20 06:31 PM
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“I’ve got one boyfriend, yes...but what about second boyfriend?”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/07/20 07:57 PM
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This attitude is something that less than 5% of the world’s most affluent, privileged and white women can afford to have. However I DO still think it’s valid that if society says it’s ok for an educated 23 year-old man to eschew marriage and kids in favour of finding himself through backpacking for several years then why shouldn’t the same opportunity be acceptable for a woman if she has the means and wants to make that decision? I mean - it’s not like all men have this much privileged and means…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/06/20 08:10 AM
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I mean we all want the people we find attractive to find us attractive too but I get what you mean
/r/ExRedPill17/06/20 06:59 PM
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Won’t load. What did it say?
/r/ExRedPill17/06/20 05:38 PM
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/r/RedPillWomen15/06/20 03:43 PM
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Your idea of what a high quality woman is will differ from others. So make sure you know in your gut what you feel is ‘quality’ about a woman or not. Is it just about their physical attractiveness? Or is it about their personality? Is a high quality woman someone average-looking with staunch morals and strong/loyal personality who will make you wait weeks or moths for sex? Even if the sex is mind-blowing and you want a monogamous relationship with her is she not a ‘full lay’? Or is she simply so…
/r/ExRedPill15/06/20 10:58 AM
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This attitude is understandable but ultimately it misses the point of sex and intimacy. It’s about quality, not quantity. Do you want to play several dozen shallow PS2 rip-offs of Grand Theft Auto 3 for an hour a piece before moving on, or do you want to sink your teeth into 100+ immersive hours of GTAV? Don’t justify banging prostitutes either. It will certainly be the easy solution to upping your notch-count but I imagine if you’re aspiring to having a happy family life eventually that approac…
/r/ExRedPill15/06/20 10:43 AM
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Truth. I’ve known this since a young age when I was bullied in school as a boy by some particularly vicious older girls. They will still pick on who they perceive as weak and vulnerable, same as the boys who bullied others. In fact the girl’s presumed innocence actually ENABLED them to carry on bullying until they were caught dead to rights and couldn’t play the victim card. Women are truly capable of the same evil thought processes as men. It will come out differently, sure - men are statistica…
/r/ExRedPill11/06/20 09:31 AM
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I’d agree - but with the stipulation that the general modern lack of self-awareness isn’t exclusive to women. Women that are ‘fit and know it’ and leverage those good looks to manipulate men absolutely are self-aware. Perhaps not self-critical enough in terms of moral awareness, but definitely aware.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/06/20 02:29 PM
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Men become ‘invisible’ long before 40 if they’re ever ‘visible’ at all. Are some modern western women really so privileged, wilfully ignorant and entitled that they can remain this naive into their 40s? I mean...it sucks that people age and lose their physical attractiveness but why does it come as such a surprise?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/06/20 10:37 AM
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Thanks I found it using TOR 👍🏻
/r/MGTOW211/05/20 10:10 PM
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That site is blocked by my ISP but thanks anyway
/r/MGTOW211/05/20 09:52 PM
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I could only find it on eBay UK for $108 (shipped from the US). A PDF copy elsewhere is $19.99, which is insane.
/r/MGTOW211/05/20 09:41 PM
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That book is £89 before shipping on Amazon UK and that’s just for the mass paperback. How else can I get this book cheap?
/r/MGTOW211/05/20 08:16 PM
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How fucked up is it that my first assumption was that OP meant that to pickup women he’d be giving them the mushrooms...?
/r/seduction07/05/20 09:45 AM
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Men hit the wall too. Good job women don’t value men on their looks as much as we do, I guess.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 03:36 PM
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Yes. But only if you trust one another and don’t abuse your power over the other person. As far as I’m concerned if you find a decent woman who is emotionally intelligent enough to see past all the superficial bullshit in the world, cares enough to do the right thing (and not what is easy) and who you feel you can trust ongoing as your partner and as a parent to any children...you’ve won the existential lottery.
/r/MGTOW222/04/20 09:23 PM
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I think it relates to human beings and society’s natural collective resistance to change one way or the other - towards both more liberal positions or conservative positions depending on what makes the most sense for the times we happen to be living in. Many disruptive or progressive ideas like civil rights, women’s rights, gay rights were threats to the status quo of the social fabric and went through these stages of struggle before they ceased to be disruptive or progressive and are now just p…
/r/MGTOW222/04/20 03:55 PM
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Dogs can smell fear?
/r/seduction22/04/20 10:54 AM
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All I’m saying in a playfully supercilious and roundabout way is...this is just the other side of the coin of a human being’s ability to practice free choice based on inscrutable subjective sexual preference, just like us men do. They get to gripe about the hypocrisy and shallowness of our sexual selection criteria too!
/r/seduction20/04/20 08:12 PM
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It’s pretty simple. They’re Barbie. Barbie needs a Ken. Most men are not a Ken. These Barbie women will spend 99% of the time deciding on who is NOT Ken. He could be an Action Man, a G I Joe or a fully-articulated Spider-man. But as he’s not Ken, not her matching Ken...he might as well be Mr Potato Head.
/r/seduction20/04/20 08:08 PM
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Can confirm
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/02/20 09:41 AM
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I imagine for these robots to have realistic ‘personalities’ the AI in them physically cannot be housed on-board and so must have always-on wireless internet access enabled so they can access abundant processing speeds from the cloud. So you’re basically putting your cock into an Amazon Alexa with tits and a vagina. The sex robots will also be able to record video and audio of you fucking it to use for their own big data/marketing purposes but the biggest risk of course it that this data can and…
/r/MGTOW10/11/19 01:00 PM
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Asking a man to quit porn entirely is like trying to get a cat to go vegan. You can force it to eat vegetables at home but you know it’s going to be eat whatever the hell it wants when outside/left unsupervised. Heterosexual men are instinctively motivated to seek out sexual variety, they’re hard coded to want to impregnate as many different women as possible. Even if they are perfectly satisfied with their current partners and sex life. They are perfectly happy to get sex from a single partner/…
/r/RedPillWomen06/11/19 11:10 PM
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I find it pretty funny that in reality as legal tender that $20 will depreciate in buying power over time, regardless of ‘face value’.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre06/11/19 12:29 PM
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When it comes to first meetings IRL a coffee date or a quick pint at the pub is what men do to find out if women are worth taking out on actual, expensive dinner dates next time. It saves both sexes time, effort and ultimately spares both parties from feelings of disappointment and resentment. You’re not sane if you agree to spend £50+ on food for a stranger off the internet, doesn’t matter how long you’ve been messaging or speaking on the phone. Unless you’ve already met them or felt out their …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/10/19 03:19 PM
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Apologies
/r/MGTOW229/10/19 09:15 AM
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I watched that earlier today...depressing AF...though I do take what BPS says with a pinch of salt...
/r/MGTOW228/10/19 11:42 PM
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I’m a bit more cautiously optimistic. I don’t think we are stuck in a closed system and doomed. It might feel like that sometimes because of all the negativity and vitriol in our media but we are not the Mouse Utopia Experiment. I mean, things probably will get much, much worse before they get better. We are probably going to live to see our existing societal ills get ever more severe in some cities/countries cultures to the point that it will become a new normal that future generations will be …
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 12:02 AM
0

To be completely fair some people can just be genetically predisposed to disproportionate weight gain, physical-illness or thyroid/hormone related problems causing weight gain, and even the fact that poor people tend to only afford poor quality high fat, high salt, high sugar junk foods over more nutritious staples. I’m not saying that’s what’s happened here with this woman, just that poverty and starvation can still befall obese people, male or female. I expect to get downvoted for saying this
/r/MGTOW26/10/19 03:21 PM
5

I thought it was some weird coprophilia thing
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/19 03:00 PM
2

Allergic reaction to a chemical in a plastic necklace or scarf or something. Use make up to lessen the severity. Fake illness to postpone sex until it’s cleared up. OR hide it when they meet husband at airport, then during sex later that might first make sure it’s dark before removing cover and ask husband to really go to town giving hickies in the exact same spot. In the morning he’ll think it was all him.
/r/MGTOW23/10/19 08:45 PM
9

Thanks I hadn’t heard of Briffault’s Law before!
/r/MGTOW23/10/19 08:35 PM
1

Definitely seems like an interesting film to watch now that I’ve seen Joker
/r/ExRedPill18/10/19 09:12 AM
2

Is this real? It reads like satire...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/10/19 06:37 PM
2

Is it a term used specifically for women or could I use it for other people like a male family member or my cable provider?
/r/MGTOW12/10/19 11:03 PM
12

What is ‘hamstering’?
/r/MGTOW12/10/19 09:13 PM
1

You’re right and I agree that’s how it should work (A meets B and actually like each other and don’t judge) - I don’t actually put that Jordan Petersonesque logic about ‘impaired pair-bonding if body count too high’ into practise because (surprise, surprise) I have difficulty forming connections with all people (let alone eligible women) anyway. I just know that I’d be uncomfortable trusting a younger woman who has already slept with dozens and dozens of men to be happy settling for me. It’s jus…
/r/ExRedPill08/10/19 01:19 PM
1

Yes I was going to say the same thing. High body counts from either men or women past a certain threshold paint a general picture about that person’s historical attitude to relationships and/or casual sex and perhaps even rh our ability to pair-bond and form lasting relationships. I’ve had over 10 partners and I’m 33. Mostly just meaningless flings and one night stands that I really don’t feel happy about. I’d trade them all in for just one proper reciprocated loving relationship with the right …
/r/ExRedPill07/10/19 06:45 PM
5

The handbag and the watch could be worthless knock-offs that locals recognise as such. Doesn’t mean this still isn’t beyond parody.
/r/MGTOW30/09/19 10:46 AM
3

I hadn’t seen that before. Brilliant. We need to see more empowering scenes like this for men in films.
/r/MGTOW29/09/19 09:12 PM
5

I initially guessed Trans GTOW but a quick community search shows that it’s Teens Going Their Own Way
/r/MGTOW229/09/19 06:45 PM
1

Post was removed...
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 07:11 PM
1

That’s great dude, obviously if you’re disciplined then it shouldn’t be an issue. In my case, I had severe mental health issues that meant for 2yrs I was indoors like a hermit 95% of the time, and playing PS4 kept me indoors. It’s only been since my TV broke down and I put the PS4 in a box in the cupboard last October that I’ve been going outside more, cycling and losing weight etc. I hadn’t cared about myself enough to stop gaming and it was enabling my worst avoidant behaviours. I’m still in r…
/r/MGTOW219/09/19 03:59 PM
1

Modern gaming is as addictive as social media. Be very careful how much time you decide to invest in it. Choose your games wisely and don’t get lost down the rabbit hole as you’ll soon find yourself doing very little else with your free time. I’ve lost while months/years to addictively just idly fucking around on the PS4 for over 12hrs a day, watching some Netflix or YouTube, ordering in a pizza etc. It can have knock-on effects on your habits that could accumulate into something really maladapt…
/r/MGTOW219/09/19 03:39 PM
1

It’s my way of saying there was a 2:1 scalp to dread ratio
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 07:47 AM
14

This actually happened to me on a Tinder date earlier this year. She had nice Afro hair in her profile pics but showed up with half her bare scalp showing with awful intermittent dreads under a dirty-looking handkerchief.
/r/MGTOW15/09/19 05:19 PM
10

The Simpsons did it!
/r/MGTOW15/09/19 04:54 PM
2

GYOW in Thailand/Thai culture centric or specific would be a good place to start, if you’re stuck there? Comparing Thai women to the hordes of disrespectful western land-whales?
/r/MGTOW211/09/19 01:30 PM
1

That all sounds pretty bad for somebody who wants to GTOW away from women/marriage/co-habitation but instead maximise on their career/social connections. I respect that you’ve found something that works for your GYOW in the Czech Republic but for me I don’t think I’d be able to cope. I’d want to be somewhere with stronger tolerance and acceptance of outsiders/foreigners in the community.
/r/MGTOW204/09/19 12:58 PM
1

I live in faith that we’re just going through another wave/phase that will die down and more even handed and reasonable social scientists findings will ultimately prevail
/r/MGTOW22/08/19 06:01 PM
-1

I accept that as an interesting piece of evidence but I’ve seen it trotted out too often and it’s a bit of a blunt instrument. I’d love to see something like it done by sociologists on a larger scale with more accurate and fastidious methodology and the ability to analyse the results by things like country, race, age etc. or at the very least for OK Cupid to repeat the study annually or for other similar dating sites that collect such data to show their results so we can compare.
/r/MGTOW22/08/19 01:48 PM
3

Is that the graph that shows most women on Okcupid were rating the vast majority of men as below average physical attractiveness?
/r/MGTOW22/08/19 01:37 PM
0

Agreed, it’s common sense and empathetic movements being co-opted for other ideological ends because there’s over-lap. I wouldn’t quite go so far as to say their struggle is a completely fictitious one (the fashion industry still has a brutally horrible negative psychological effect on girls and women’s self perception + women’s own pervasive competitive passive aggression/judgment towards one another’s image) but on balance laying it on thick and blaming it on men just doesn’t wash with me.
/r/MGTOW22/08/19 09:54 AM
13

The argument behind images like this isn’t necessarily that they’re trying to dictate to hetero men what their personal preferences should be (though you will obviously get radicals or zealots who absolutely will), but that it is about the ‘feeling’ or self-perception of being beautiful. Being obese like ‘U’ and ‘L’ can absolutely be rectified but outside of that, women have immutable genetically determined physical characteristics they can’t change either. So to me images like this, if given th…
/r/MGTOW22/08/19 09:17 AM
3

r/menkampf
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 11:07 AM
24

Where can I see the original?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/08/19 09:33 PM
1

On the brightside there’s a time limit on this for him, it’s. Or like he’s actually losing anything is it? He has a year to attempt to his MMA aspirations before going back to medical school, and still have it paid for by ma and pa no less! Once he convinces his wife and parents to calm down and see what they’re doing now is shitty and controlling and won’t matter in a year its win-win for him. He gets to follow his dream and has a back-up plan if he fails.
/r/MGTOW203/08/19 09:15 PM
1

No we agree, we’re both saying it’s a shitty thing to dump on someone without consulting them first, right?
/r/MGTOW203/08/19 08:42 PM
1

He’s not being an asshole as he’s rational about this possibly being his only shot at being an MMA he’ll ever get but he’s acted really disrespectfully towards his wife. If the genders were reversed and his wife had surprised him telling him she’d just quit her job to pursue a career as a Hollywood actress after doing a few amateur community theatre shows he’d be right to be pissed at her for leaving him out. Marriage is supposed to be about making big decisions like that together and he cut her…
/r/MGTOW203/08/19 07:57 PM
1

AFAIK and IIRC ‘Black Pill’ is a more pessimistic but pragmatic version of the red pill. It’s applying the red pill logic to everything else and seeing the ‘brutal reality’ in almost everything and so changing attitudes and behaviours according to this total lack of perceived naivety. Feel free to correct me if I’ve got the definition wrong guys.
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 10:42 PM
1

CCTV is the least of our worries or the lesser of two evils when Zuck and Bezos knows what you’re going to get for your birthday, who you’re going to vote for and what diseases you’ll have four years ahead of time
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 05:33 PM
1

Haha I guess I’m being rhetorical. It tells us something that they’ve removed the page, they must realise how dumb it looked using such broad language for what in effect is going to manifest as the same typical verbal/physical harassment and stalking crimes they’ve dealt with for decades already
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 01:53 PM
7

“Examples of this may include unwanted or uninvited sexual advances; physical or verbal assault; unwanted or uninvited physical or verbal contact or engagement; use of mobile devices to send unwanted or uninvited messages or take photographs without consent or permission.” Texting or DM’ing a woman is a misogynistic hate crime? They really need to be completely specific here. Unwanted messages are annoying but the line between sending a few messages to get someone’s attention/ask them out and ou…
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 01:34 PM
10

I’m in the UK and haven’t heard of this? Do you have a source or a link to an article about this? Genuinely interested to know where in the UK this is happening
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 08:55 AM
1

I’m fed up of rampant unapologetic, vitriolic and (genuine) misogyny/misandry both on reddit and elsewhere on social media. There’s enough ugliness in the world gender-based hatred from either end of the divide is equally boring and disappointing and ultimately doesn’t help bring society any closer together again. There’s got to room for mildly-MGTOW/MGTOW-adjacent men like myself who balk at the vitriol but see value in researching/pursuing all other aspects to the lifestyle. Could rename the s…
/r/MGTOW213/07/19 10:42 AM
1

Fleabag?
/r/MGTOW07/06/19 02:55 PM
1

I’m 33M and never been in a LTR or co-habitated. I don’t necessarily identify as red-pilled or a MGTOW, but I’ve been treated badly and bullied by women from childhood and seen several male family members put through hell from divorce and alienation from their children and so I can empathise somewhat with some (not all) aspects of how men can come to believe relationships or marriage/financial entanglement with women is too risky. The male loneliness aspect, I’ve learned to gradually cope with t…
/r/MGTOW227/04/19 11:20 AM
4

TL;DR: My father was terrible and a misogynist so I never saw a firsthand example of how to be a good husband/partner. He never took any interest and was abusive/hyper-critical of his wives/partners. It’s affected me insofar that I feel I’m not missing out by remaining single, but it’s steeled me against becoming as misogynistic as he is. I still have some hope for a healthy relationship someday. My earliest memory is of my father verbally abusing my mother. He verbally and physically abused us …
/r/MGTOW221/04/19 11:40 PM
1

Why did the host relent then agree with her just to immediately double down on his initial disagreement?
/r/MGTOW13/03/19 10:43 PM
3

When he made that point it was in the context of what gives your life meaning. I hope we can agree that in principle it’s meaningful and a positive thing to at least try to start and maintain a family even if things might go tits-up eventually. Life has meaning for the men who try to build something, even if it isn’t their fault if it gets knocked down. Obviously if the good faith approach panned out for all men then MGTOW warning against a certain degree of naivety wouldn’t be a thing.
/r/MGTOW13/03/19 02:23 AM
3

I’m sure this is true for many people and it’s another thing I’m grateful in not having had to endure
/r/MGTOW13/03/19 01:36 AM
2

I have an uncle who staged single who is in his late 50s now and are enjoying what you could generally consider a MGTOWesque living. However he has lamented the fact that he never had children. Like me he was single for a very long time so eventually made his peace with it. I’m not about to assume that cohabiting with someone I love will be crap long term just because they get older and uglier. I mean, I will be ageing too and in theory if you truly love your spouse then it shouldn’t be a proble…
/r/MGTOW12/03/19 11:39 PM
7

Jordan Peterson’s warnings about life feeling pretty empty after age 45 if you haven’t started a family do give me pause. However I’m 33 and I’ve yet to experience what a proper serious long term relationship with a woman is like let alone what cohabitation is like too. I had to force myself to not care in my late 20s to stop feeling so rejected and depressed about spending most of my 20s forever alone and undesirable before I even knew about MGTOW and entertained any notion that modern women mi…
/r/MGTOW12/03/19 11:21 PM
71

Bravo
/r/MGTOW07/03/19 09:46 PM
1

What are the chances a movie adaptation of this true story with the key facts unaltered would be accepted or produced by mainstream Hollywood? It would be labelled MRA propaganda and if it was made, they’d have to make the female student seem as innocent as possible.
/r/MGTOW07/03/19 08:29 PM
4

It seems to me that Cruise is too deeply involved to ever leave without the church and its leader inflicting enormous damage. He must be aware of the controversies and abuses and either lives in a constant state of cognitive dissonance or keeps himself wilfully ignorant of the true extent. In Louis Theroux’s Scientology doc Marty Rathburn, a former very high-level Scientologist with an axe to grind implied that Cruise is doted on and treated like a living god by the church and has even participa…
/r/MGTOW02/03/19 02:01 PM
1

Playback error
/r/MGTOW226/02/19 08:34 PM
3

My thoughts exactly. I had the same experience watching it - entertained by the audacity of the experiment revealing a shocking and uncomfortable truth about human behaviour but then he suddenly uses its findings to go off on a highly opinionated misogynistic tirade. Tedious.
/r/MGTOW225/02/19 11:07 AM
1

Women are just other people. They’re fine so long as they’re treated as people first and foremost and not being objectified sexually in such a manner that makes them uncomfortable. Unfortunately there’s many women who misunderstand or wilfully disregard that tenet of genuine gender equality. They’re too used to the double standard and expect you to conform to aspects of it and many nations still have laws that conveniently disadvantage men in favour of women and they like them that way as the sy…
/r/MGTOW217/02/19 10:11 PM
2

I couldn’t believe it when I heard one of my cousins spent £5k on an engagement ring for his now wife, when they’d been together for 10+ years and were obviously going to marry. She was obviously going to say yes, I got the impression she gave him an ultimatum once she hit 30 and yet it seems like she still put him in a position where he felt he had to buy her an insanely expensive piece of jewellery she can’t have worn for much more than a year. He even fell out with my uncle over it as quite r…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/02/19 03:02 PM
4

I’ve felt strong limerence towards various different women from age 15 until recently, and particularly when I was younger I was utterly convinced that I was ‘in love’ with these fellow classmates or colleagues who I barely knew or spoke to. I would never ever have compared what I thought was that ‘love’ feeling to the love for my mother or siblings or any other family member. It was this pure romantic feeling that physically hurt in my gut to think about not being reciprocated. In just one pers…
/r/MGTOW215/02/19 04:25 AM
1

Can confirm this is absolutely solid gold advice. I’d been sexually frustrated as hell today and very nearly started messaging old hook-ups or almost-hookups, who I don’t even like/didn’t particularly even enjoy sleeping with before, to ask if they were free to meet up. Post-nut, I strongly feel NO sexual Or romantic desire towards any of those women and now the idea of contacting them seems insane and fucking awkward, not fun at all and it would have been a major mistake. It’s seriously elucida…
/r/MGTOW08/02/19 05:04 PM
2

My father would constantly criticise me, call me a social misfit when I went to him with my problems then told me that ‘friends always let you down’. Just because he was a fucking loser he took it out on me. He probably thought he was red-pilling me and ‘telling me as it is’, but it did nothing to help my mental health and it’s contributed to problems I’m still dealing with in my 30s. I wish he’d said something actually useful to me like you did to your son.
/r/MGTOW06/02/19 01:22 PM
6

I think it’s a PS4 exclusive for the time being. It hasn’t been out for a year yet.
/r/MGTOW05/02/19 12:34 PM
2

r/nottheonion
/r/MGTOW04/02/19 11:32 PM
28

I’ve even thinking this so much more the past 20 years or so since Harry Potter/Lord of the Rings films started then online geek culture exploded in the mid 00s etc. People just become obsessed with pop culture and they’re often not savvy enough to realise that they’re using it to fill the hole where religion might once have been. The ironic and sad thing is, at least with the geek news/culture channels you see on Youtube asking for Patreon donations and grinding the algorithm for Adsense bucks …
/r/MGTOW04/02/19 04:02 PM
2

Cool. I’ll remember that for future submissions if I come across something suitable. As for this, I’ll see if r/MGTOW like it maybe
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/19 10:32 PM
2

Yeah that article I found was literally just there for anyone interested in the source image but I should have realised that it would have been considered as part of the submission too. I honestly wasn’t trying to use it to make or further the point or attempt at humour. Oh well it’s all good. Thanks for further clarifying mate
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/19 10:26 PM
11

Underrated comment. What a metaphor!
/r/MGTOW02/02/19 10:21 PM
2

Oh no it’s fine, I totally accept if it wasn’t accepted for the reasons you gave - if it didn’t have the comment I added underneath and the additional context, would it have been accepted? I did use the ‘humour’ flair to differentiate it from a normal post. Or does it have to be always definitely be examples of something a real woman has posted or said online? Either ways it’s all good 👍🏻
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/19 10:15 PM
2

Is my post not live on the sub?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/19 10:09 PM
1

For anyone interested, it’s “I Can’t Help the Way I Feel” by British sculptor John Isaacs (2003). It can be interpreted as either female or male. This blog post is an interesting commentary on its meaning(s) and the sculptor’s intent.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/19 01:16 PM
1

Won’t load :(
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/19 12:27 AM
1

There’s a character in China Miéville’s book Iron Council who is punished by having the arms of her dead baby sewn onto her forehead like horns.
/r/MGTOW01/02/19 11:57 PM
1

I was just thinking how fucking perfect this would be as a Silent Hill monster!
/r/MGTOW31/01/19 12:19 AM
6

Yes it’s very entertaining and reassuring to watch in these dark times. Star Trek as a whole is quite varied, as it’s such an old franchise (50 yrs+) there’s multiple TV series and I think 12 or 13 movies now. It’s massive and it is difficult to know where to start. 1990s TV Trek appeals to me more because that’s what I grew up with and it was my first exposure to it, but I also have no desire to go back and watch any of the 1960s Original Series and/or the William Shatner era movies. I found th…
/r/MGTOW23/01/19 10:09 PM
2

Which one? Why?
/r/MGTOW23/01/19 01:55 PM
9

...who turned out to be a post-wall 0/10 alien catfishing him (and Tuvok) by hacking the holodeck!
/r/MGTOW23/01/19 01:10 PM
1

I read that they’re termed ‘herbivores’ because their sexual or ‘carnivorous’ appetite towards real women is sorely lacking. If they’re not just simply asexual whatever lust they do have is reserved for fictional females only like anime characters or other objects like sex dolls or those hologram A.I.s. The overlap with MGTOW is where they have resolved to be happy without real women.
/r/MGTOW21/01/19 12:32 AM
7

At the risk of being downvoted, she was shaming a guy for sending two unsolicited dick pics. It’s still not ok to promote the ‘I hate men (because they’re all like this)’ implication though. Same as not hating all women if they send unsolicited direct debit requests or amazon wish lists. You know the women who do that are trash and need to learn the hard way, but you’re not going to write them all off and hate every woman either.
/r/MGTOW20/01/19 11:29 PM
-2

How do you change font in WhatsApp?
/r/MGTOW14/01/19 01:34 AM
8

Haha I’m such a dweeb I didn’t even notice the TikTok logo
/r/MGTOW22/12/18 10:05 PM
7

What is she even trying to do here? I’m assuming because it was being filmed that it was some dumb prank?
/r/MGTOW22/12/18 10:01 PM
5

True, got to give her that at least.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/12/18 10:58 PM
5

XMGTOW
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 06:26 PM
5

Well, there goes any hope for Collateral 2.
/r/MGTOW13/12/18 12:59 PM
28

I think the implication is that you’re not deemed kinky enough to be rewarded with being called Daddy during sex, but some other dude is/was. To make you jealous. Don’t see how it’s a time waster though.
/r/MGTOW11/12/18 11:04 PM
10

I’m less inclined to have much sympathy for the older woman on the far left, but the loss of the other two women to suicide is tragic. Any and all suicide is tragic. It’s not like there hasn’t been social pressure for young women in their 20s to ‘settle and marry’ for time immemorial, I’d be interested to see what the stats are for how many young women in the UK in the 1700s/1800s/1900s took their lives at around the same age for not marrying. Also interesting to see how those same figures chang…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/12/18 11:44 PM
7

Growing up I didn’t have a single adult family member other than my grandparents whose marriage didn’t end in a bitter divorce and custody battle the mother won, including my own parents. My grandparents were OG Catholic so stayed together and kept their vows ‘in sickness/health for the better or the worse’ seriously, even if it eventually meant decades of frustration, unhappiness and dissatisfaction with each other. When they reached their 70s my grandmother was planning on leaving my grandfath…
/r/MGTOW03/12/18 11:35 AM
1

Wow, didn’t realise the success rate of reversing a vasectomy was so low!
/r/MGTOW03/12/18 02:09 AM
11

I don’t know but to me it looks like it might be Brad Pitt? Doesn’t match to the text though seeing as he’s been married twice and currently going through divorce hell.
/r/MGTOW01/12/18 12:52 PM
42

I think it’s a vaping device or pen
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/18 12:40 PM
15

Isn’t this already how it is, with women having reproductive rights that men do not? Keeping a pregnancy s man does not want, specifically.
/r/MGTOW24/11/18 10:32 PM
6

I would hesitate to equate the way she chose to spend her 20s and most fertile years with egregious long-term drug abusers. I would have loathing for a crack whore single mother who does have children but carries on using and thus neglects/abuses her kids and shows no desire to improve. To me, loathe is a strong term that I wouldn’t use for her or anyone like her unless she’d personally attacked me or intentionally hurt others through neglect or malicious action. It’s a waste, sure. But that’s h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/11/18 07:20 PM
5

I meant ‘sympathy’ then, not empathy. I pity her some, but I don’t relate.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/11/18 05:28 PM
9

I must admit I did feel some empathy listening to her. She’s clearly hurting. She lost me nearer the end though, when she started telling men not to fuck with women’s emotions, as if it’s their fault for not immediately wanting what she wants and declaring so on a first date. She seems rational and open minded enough, so I hope she does eventually realise she’ll have to temper her expectations and not be so impatient.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/11/18 05:09 PM
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