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Clubbing is intresting take, but i don't believe thats the case. Most validation in clubs comes from drunk or high people with unknown motives. How many times you have ever been in clubs? Because it's definitely not the reason of low self-esteem. The mental health crisis and especially boom of suicide among young people is definitely a very serious problem and should be looked in, and it's true that it has some roots in dating and social life. But i also believe that these issues are that drasti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:41 PM
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Its absolutely transparent if you look not into what people say, but what they do. It's not a science to understand it: people attracted to attractive people. They seek traits that make person desirable: looks, passion and charisma. Secondary traits: safety, status, being intresting and sexuality. And empathy i guess. And by safety i mean not the dude who protects with a gun, but a person who is stable and safe to be with, the person you know who want fuck up things just because. Thats it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:43 PM
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It's a mentality of cheapskate to be that greedy, definitely not a desirable trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:17 AM
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I dunno why its such big issue to pay for the date. Like dude, are you broke or that greedy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:30 AM
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The problem goes from the friendzone. If you want to date as a guy you shoot your shots before you get into permanent friendzone, after all, women often say its unethical to befriend and then shoot your shots. And from his standpoint what he did is absolutely valid. He dodged a bullet of being in orbit as "comfortable" friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:10 PM
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Good point but it has one big exception: people are not monolith and have different preferences. While lack of communication is a returning problem in many relationships, not all feedback have value and sometimes people even themselves don't know why everything gone wrong. For example some people value autonomy more than anything else in a relationship: for them boundary is a control attempt. And saying not to fuck your brother is a controlling and abusive behavior. Same goes to being obsessive:…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:07 PM
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You merged different ideas into one, which made the whole point nonsense. For example about having sex early: some people just don't like casual sex at all. But yeah, some people who disgusted by anything sexual and sexuality itself would be a low value as sexual partners, and questionable partners at all. And i do believe that some women have warped view about male sexuality. And sex in a relationship is something that should be worked on, uncommon idea, but it's one of the things that have hug…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:44 PM
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Because marriedredpill probably and echochamber of people who are not married i guess. Who the fuck in their right mind need a person like this? Noone, outside a few exceptions, or Afghanistan.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:05 PM
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Thats why i said correlation, not causation. It's true that more previous partners = higher chance of infidelity, but at the same time it doesn't mean it. Same goes in reverse, virgin =/= no infidelity, FOMO is really usual cause in infidelity, i don't need proofs because my ex was perfect example of said FOMO. Edit: i have an anecdotal experience on both said cases - where partner with higher amount of partners is faithfull and an ex virgin that decided split-roast with randos is valid option i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:31 PM
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Problem is a lot of hoe-math is based on assumptions and correlations. Obviously almost noone want to marry a village's bicycle that had sex with population of small european country. But the logic of high and low value women based on how soon you had sex with is flawed. Does it mean if you waited for sex that she won't cheat? No it doesn't. It even doesn't mean she waited before - maybe you are the only unicorn that waited for 6 months. Same goes about attraction and libido - man often thinks t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:04 PM
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Yes, i kinda set myself for failure with that once. It's obvious for me now, that the marriage i could have would be unfullfilling at best, well, it's ended for a different reason with a most impressive blow to the whole idea of marriage material girlfriend. Not that i had that idea, but anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:27 PM
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It work in terms of todays hunting. They don't prey the easiest but more valuable one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:04 PM
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Yes, its cultivated, not inherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:50 PM
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And here we are blaming men that they don't know that "women are people", its about idiotic dynamics in a relationships and dating that encouraged socially and through these dynamics. Prime example of that pull and push tactic in dating to not appear as clingy or desperate, but it is based on flawed logic. When i meet a person that i have insane chemistry with its illogical to push away that person, but it is common behavior learned from different interactions. A lot of "value" ideas stems from …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:48 PM
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Because it's flawed logic, sets person to failure of marriage. It's not really gendered and goes both ways. It's an attempt to separate love and lust as two opposites, which leads to dead bedroom and unfullfilling relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:36 PM
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The whole Red Pill was an umbrella term for different ideas about dating with acknowledging the fact that you need to become better or die trying, AFBB type of shit. Not really a movement, but then influencers happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:55 PM
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This is why a man can still commit rape even if a woman ultimately says yes. With that mentality, you destroy a possibility of rape victims to defend themselves through accusation. Yes is a yes, no is a no. We are not talking about coercion and such. If a person can't say no because he is treated it is not a consent, but when we start to digging into socialeconomic status and such - wonderful shit happens, like i changed my mind or he had a lot of money and how could i say no to such proposition…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:43 PM
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The whole red pill revolves around the fact that dating is competition, to win it you should work on yourself as much as possible on traits that make you valuable. In redpill its: looks, money and status. Influencers have nothing to do with RP, they are here to make money. How to make more money as influencer? Make more drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:37 PM
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Because its how a competition is: finding a good partner is reward for improving, for winning this competition. And it's not only a reward, it's more, but it doesn't diminish the competition factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:12 PM
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If a guy want to be permanently single, yeah, great solution. Otherwise no. Women are not usually very honest with what they want. (Men too, but its not the case here). And this asshole vs a nice guy is tiresome, because its not that important qualities in dating. What important is: looks, confidence and passion. Thats the whole key to dating, no depth, no gender wars, no power dynamics - just desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:16 PM
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Once again you here with that topic. Go on dating apps with average dude photos and show men how it's done. Lookism is real and valid, and it's valid for these people to feel downed. And its valid for them to have that idea when bluepillers blame them for some character flaws that don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:26 PM
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Simpliest debate ever. Leftist men or right men (not maga, but they are fat - so no problem) doesn't have a lot to do with dating. Women attracted to attractive people, cool guys, period. Everything else is a bonus, not the selling point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:23 PM
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Not really, i do believe it's mostly issue of modern dating through apps, not because different views on LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:48 PM
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Or you can just dump her, and thats apparently happened, and i believe will happen every now and then. I doubt anyone in a right mind would like to date her. Lesson learned for him i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:17 PM
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It's kind of madonna - whore complex but in reverse. I heard numerous times about scenario 2, i call them reformed sluts. Worst people to date, incarnation of redpill biggest fear. Why they are that way? IDK. They somehow don't see anything wrong with that. And mind you, the moment a guy knows the truth he bails out every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:22 PM
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Oh yes, thats why smart guys are smart about the fact that they are wealthy. If someone's first question on date is how much money do you make - its time to bail.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:28 PM
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Yep, but it's not that common to expect sole provider nowadays. There are some women that expect 500k and Bali every week, but the ones who worked don't have a delusion that men should be sole provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:40 PM
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It used, yes. Is it stupid to use, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:43 AM
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Decent amount of men, yes. But they are dwindling with gen z. Even usually blue places becoming more red because of young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:38 PM
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Exactly, you think young men loves reps programms, nah. Thats why most guys didn't even vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:22 PM
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80% young men are apolitical, some of them vote not for the people they like, but the people who don't dislike them. It's not tit for tat, it's about making apolitical people to vote for you. It's not about who is bad or good guys, its about results.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:17 PM
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Half of them just want to get into DMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:11 PM
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No, this is a lie. I'm a white man who spends all their time in progressive circles. I've never been told I need to apologize or be blamed for everything. You're just making shit up. Because you got your dick chopped - thats the only explanation i want to give to such dense example of species as yourself. If you don't see it, idgaf. What men's issues are ignored by the left? Skyrocketing suicide rates, school programms, DEI stupidity? ??????????????? Trying to interact with a lot of people on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:27 PM
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You intentionally ignored the categories I mentioned to try and falsely claim Harris excluded most men. She did, it just happened that some of students a males. Kind of hard to exclude them. Secondly Harris is not all dems or left as it is. I am speaking about ALL dems and the people who accociated with left stream. That doesn't make it true. You are welcome to make the argument that the perception is what matters, which is absolutely true, I'm just pointing out the perception is a self imposed …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:16 PM
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Workers and students and people who need medical treatment are not minorities. So that all you got from my text. Welp. I said this very specific subset of men made a false claim and created a double standard where they can feel persecuted by the left. The whole left nowadays is incarnate of double standarts. You believe there is not truth in it, millions men who voted did. So maybe it is that way, not because men are evil and wants to take women rights as a lot of people on the left rationalize …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:52 PM
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It's about left as the whole, not Harris. And you said it yourself, left only had a lil bit of inclusion with groups that accociated with minorities: LGBTQ and so on. Mind you, i don't have anything against them and i do believe these groups are more vulnerable. And you are a perfect example of this: blame and vilify. "You were just looking for an excuse to vote right." A lot of left believe that the reason why they lost it's because men are bad, with this modus operandi you will never win, well…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:06 AM
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If we speak about politics: answer is simple left discarded men. Speaking about men's issues on the left is a political suicide. It's a big no no. A scapegoat for reps are immigrant and trans people, scapegoat for dems and left are white men. About dating it's simple too: its an opposition to redpill, black pill and such staff. And they don't have any advice to give. Same logic appears here too - one side gives an advice, even flawed - other side don't give any advice at all. Or some bullshit li…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:34 AM
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Final form of simp. Lots of frustration comes from batshit insane expectations of some women. But because of social media stupid and enlited people are more vocal. Before social media only family knew about your stupidity, now half of the world. There are a lot of other reasons of frustration in dating, but they are universal for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:09 PM
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Marriage is more than that. Prenup is for people who don't have luxury to trust. If someone wealthy AF, with high probability 90% of possible partners are golddiggers if they are dating outside their social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:24 PM
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Oh boy, i am bored so i take a bait. First of all we are humans and not just animals. And people in general don't have a lot of compassion and empathy for nonames. They can have a bit of it when they hear some sobbing story, for example story of the guy that developed issues with his brain after boxing (wild story from boru) but on average person don't spend a lot of time thinking about some person that have some issues. People dying all around the world daily, from the most horrendous shit - no…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:47 PM
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To be honest, if i was using apps only i would be single. I am bad at texting and people on apps usually have the same cycle: get a few matches, drying dialogues and ghosting, then they have low expectations and low effort into dialogues and ghost themselves. So i believe it's true that they are not designed to make connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:37 PM
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I don’t remember him on the apps at all. I don’t even remember like swiping left, I just don’t remember him on there at all. Quite good presentation of dating apps. Anyways I commented on a post about how telling men to get off the apps is useless advice. However if my boyfriend had just stayed on the apps, and never tried irl approaching we might not have ever met. It’s not only that it’s hard to know if you are attracted to someone just on the dating app. Because people on dating app is just p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:27 PM
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Probably, or they just obsessed with one person. Sometimes people are weirdos when it comes to attachment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:22 PM
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I don't know how you managed to merge opening up and free ticket to sex or food. A lot of people are not really interested in understanding your struggles, even if they are close. For men it's russian roulette because noone knows the results of opening up. There are decent chances that it will make a person viewed as much less of a person or less man than it was before.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:13 PM
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No, i would choose ability to give eternal youth to other people as my third choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:10 PM
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You are just not interested in other struggles, so that why you think it's only sex. And opening up to a woman or anyone else is a russian roulette for average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:08 PM
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Maybe it is, it's not like i have stats on this issue, only some anecdotal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:06 PM
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I don't know: because apparently they don't either. I guess, its comes to the fact that they operate under the idea that every relationship and connection is +1, so it's more attachment issue, plus when patterns of behavior repeats too many times it becomes their modus operandi. Additionally when person sleeps with 100+ people the quality of these hook ups are usually not that great, a lot cheaters and not great partners so they start to extrapolate that on everyone they meet. Also, sex and some…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:04 PM
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It's changes person. Not that they don't want a committed relationship, but they genunily can't. And it's not even they cheat on all their partners, it's more like something breaks in a person. Plus a very small amount of people are ok with that type of histrory.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:51 AM
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I don't know a lot of people with insanely high BC, but all of them have the same struggles - views of the relationship and intimacy are warped.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:53 PM
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Pair bonding exists, oxytocin. Thats why LDR always bound to fail and one of important aspects in a relationship is intimacy and i am not talking about sex. There is a reason why separate bedrooms viewed as bad thing in a relationship. They use it as a way to explain how they feel women are supposed to attach to men While RP has weird view on a attachment, there is a base of desire that helps to that attachment to thrive. And it's not rule that women should follow, but a rule for a men to make t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:49 PM
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It's not to shame women. I know a few guys who are fucked and can't maintain any relationship. And i know a few women who have the same problem, they can't to commit for various reasons. But the only thing that common between them: extremely high body count. And by high i mean 100+ maybe 4 digits.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:38 PM
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Society gives you gold stars and asspats for not neglecting the fuck out of your own kids No, society don't give gold start to man at all, if he didn't die in a process. Women are blamed for the consequences of not having a career. And called gold diggers if they want a good quality of life How many women are blamed for not being a good earner? Not many. And there are gold diggers that only for your money as a man. Women are presumed irrational harpies by default. Women are presumed to be emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:09 PM
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Women are far more stressed then men. Women are far more stressed because they are held to much more stringent and much more unreasonable expectations than men. What this expectations are? I don't believe it, men has A LOT more expectations than women, by everyone. Society expects from you a lot more than from women. You should earn a lot, if you don't you are a disgrace. You should be stoic, if you are not you are winny shit. Like in every aspect of your life it is expected to you to succeed, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:39 PM
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Hooray, now we are into relationship dictatorship. Like idgaf about passport bros, and most of them are delusional AF. But, there are some buts. Dating is a market, and like in every market deal between two consenting adults, gonna give your 2 examples. 1.) I born in country that was poor and had a lot of passportbros in 90s. Most of these guys were from Europe and US, mostly US. They came on working trips and sometimes took with them "new wifes" to US. And for these women it was a ticket from s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:07 PM
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Well, nepotism is more alabama pill than black pill, cause through nepotism people skip HR, they just get job, because it's theirs parents bussiness. So trying to maintain pills logic: in what pill people skip dating at all: alabama pill or arranged marriage pill? Black pill: most successful people are genius. Not nepotism. But overall dating through apps is similar to job hunting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:04 PM
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Single mother? Someone will play stepdad. No? Want a boyfriend or boy toy? Go get a nerd and build a man outta him and he’ll most likely craft himself into the man you want. Or he will just stay nerd and smoke. Nerd =/= good bf material. I’ve gone to school with girls as autistic as me go homeless and get bailed out to move across the country to live in the room of a boyfriend on discord. You can move to across the country to live in the room of a boyfriend. You are jealous i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:19 PM
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No? I don't give a fuck what people do or how they do, if it's legal and everyone is on board. They are adults. I don't support them, why should i? And there a lot of possible problems with age gap relationships, but constant witch hunt is tiresome. People nowadays love to judge other people, and its very amusing to hear about how tolerant people are, when everyone who is not lined with the party is enemy of the state and should be shamed, hunted and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:13 PM
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No, this sub is the only thing why i tolerate my work. I am here for shit and giggles and weekly dick size debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:46 PM
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Post about sympathy -> went into collective responsibility. So i ask again whats your point? Blaming all population? Not so different from most radical views of redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:25 PM
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So we need all to kill all men? Whats your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:52 PM
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Holy shit, it feels like speaking with brick wall. Touch some grass, the point stands still. Paternity fraud is common enough for men to use paternity tests if they are not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:49 PM
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Ok, 30% in US, and? 30% is fucking A LOT. Whats the point of your arguing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:40 PM
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30-50%, depends on country. And saying only 30% are negative not 50% is not really positive thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:27 PM
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Just do it without wife knowing it. Thats all. If it is positive you forget that it exists. If it is negative - divorce is not your only problem. Almost half of paternity tests that people do comes negative, so trust your gut feeling. But it's not like half men raises not their child it's usually men who don't trust their partner have a reason to do so, and they are the one who do the tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:17 PM
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You are blaming all population for crimes of small part of that population. What average dude has to do with domestic violence? We already working on everything we can do against it in west. Yeah, bearucracy shit and idiotic politicians are doing bad, but they are always doing it badly. And US is unique in that regard because of gun laws and high crime rate with guns involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:12 PM
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Basically men make environment unsafe for women, dangerous even, and women break down, and men watch this and start to talk about how offended they are. Is this sympathy? Men don't make environment unsafe for women, yeah some fuckers exists but comparison with bear is stupid and insulting especially if you know what bear is: it's a fucking living tank with speed of car meeting bear in wild even with shotgun could be death sentence. Then we come to the general reaction when women were raped or ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:43 AM
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That's in part why if sex is the only thing dissipating and everything else is truly fine, which it absolutely can be, the marriage will persist. It can persist or maybe won't. After all building won't collapse without 1 pillar, but it become unstable. Plus it is possible that both parties lost libido. And all parts of relationship are intertwined, thats why metaphor with pillars is good when one part of relationship fails it affects all other parts as well and problems starts snowballing. One o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:05 AM
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It will, first question in MC is how regular is sex. It's not a most important thing in a relationship, until there is no sex or only low quality one, than relationship looses one of it's main pillars. Obviously there are some situations when it's not on the menu: health, children etc. But with enough resentment relationship dissolves very quickly, and rejection is good at building resentment, negatives about relationship and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:53 AM
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It's common, like really fucking common, half of deadbedroom subreddit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:39 AM
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Had back pain, was bored and had nothing to do so i was lurking on reddit and here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:42 AM
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Genuine nice guys often finish last too. Being nice is far from the most important qualities in dating. Well, let me rephrase it: being nice is a broad term, being nice with your partner or being nice overall?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:05 PM
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I am in a relationship for almost 4 years, so no i wasn't expecting things that don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:08 PM
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It seems our views are different, because for me it is one of the main pillars of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:00 PM
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It is, plenty of people experienced it, decent amount of men experienced it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:50 PM
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Nice guys finish last I love that phrase, but it's not really true. The thing is nice person or not nice person in terms of dating is quite broad. And it mostly should be boring guy finish last, without a spark, not masculine enough, not sexual enough. A second choice type of guy, who is never really a first choice for anyone - these people are often settled after phase and they get a boring version of woman they wanted to be with. Never be a person who is safe option, plan B. There are plenty o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:35 PM
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Whenever you want is the right answer, obviously if you want to succeed than approach in bars, festivals, clubs and so on - every recreational place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:16 PM
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Yeah, but if you identify the wrong A,B, and C, like so many people here do, you’re not going to get too far. It’s like someone noticing that that the best basketball players have nice sneakers, drive sportscars, and have very toned calf muscles. And then they show up to an NBA tryout in a Maserati, sporting toned legs and cool Nikes… and wonder why they get laughed off the court. Yes, it is fairly common. Correlation and causation, there is a misconception about bad boys. Are some people attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:11 PM
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No? It's very simple. A) People with success in datings usually have traits: A, B and C. B) People who are not successful in dating usually have traits: D, E and F. Logical outcome: try to embrace traits A, B and C. Try to remove traits: D, E and F. You can't make someone fall in love with you through logic, yes. But can you make yourself attractive overall and desirable, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:55 AM
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It's only in US and some west countries people are so fucked on SW. You can buy escorts, like what stopping you? And a lot of women and men are hypocritical on reddit, especially about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:18 AM
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That attitude is how dating usually works for man. It's a competition where you compete with dozens or hundreds of dudes. Deserve love? Don't want to be a bitter prick but aint most common advice here "you are not enlited to anything"? Self-worth is important but your value in dating is determined by others and the competition. My advice is much simplier: get good or die trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:50 PM
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They pretend to care about feminism, but yet fuck men in the manosphere. That is OBVIOUSLY FAKE. Women don’t respect, fake women, especially fake women who pretend therefore the women’s cause. That’s considered a traitor and a pick me. Or they are not chronically online and don't give a shit about gender wars. They do care about women issues, but why they should stop themselves from good fuck? Because someone on reddit will blame them for being "traitor"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:14 PM
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So masculinity is irrelevant. When you are popular everything is irrelevant. They’re fake, dumb and fickle. Women don’t care that the red pill loves low quality women. We care that you guys keep conflating most women with the low quality women you guys think are high-quality. So you just randomly name someone low quality woman? Most women are attracted to masculine men, same goes to men who is mostly attracted to femine women. You can fight with gender roles all you want - but in dating world pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:53 PM
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Because those are the types of women you want. And I highly doubt they even took their feminism that seriously. You guys seem to not understand you go after fickle women. Who, like the Redpill and nice guys, will just say shit that dont actually live up to. And yet they still choose me over some friendly safe dudes. And some of them are pretty into feminism staff, with a LOT of knowledge about it. Same thing happens everywhere: they want men to fit into perfect feminist formula, but excluding fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:38 PM
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How would you know? Incels arent doing any of that. Half of them are doing it, they are just not saying that they are incels. Real life experience: i plowed enough feminists while their male best friends are sitting on backburner without any game. This guy’s the wokest comedian have seen and still gets girlfriends: https://youtube.com/@gianmarcosoresi?si=l8TWaqDRBDGeQtnK If you are popular enough you can even eat your own shit and still have numerous gfs. And comedians usually have extremely goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:25 PM
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Another stupid take about masculinity: it's not men only who police this gender role but women too. The safe men that feminists talk about, who against toxic masculinity, embraced therapy-talk and yada yada - these men are not getting laid, they are not getting into relationships because they are not desirable. Most women want to date men, not eunuchs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:10 PM
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IDGAF about media, but i do care about real life - who are in top 20% men in dating apps? What looks men with 3 digits bodycount have, how they speak, how do they behave? (We are not counting swingers obv) Thats your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:37 PM
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No? Why should they? Because they are suffering from success? Because there is no real decline in masculinity being valued, more like opposite? IDK where you got this decline from.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:23 PM
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Top 20% men on any dating app is far from nerds. Same goes to real life experience - "masculine" men with good looks can easily make their b-count into 3 digits.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:14 PM
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Attracted to, women want to have sex with. It's one of traits that makes man wanted by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:14 AM
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Super masculine? No, and masculinity is not dude with ton of muscles or blaming women boy. Manosphere =/= masculinity. It's a mentality, status and style.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:13 AM
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Famous BP sport with asking what about women in topics about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:09 PM
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Yes, but there is no alternative. Not masculine men are not desired: you can tell anything you want about it but thats how society views them. Speaking about it in therapy doesn't diminish that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:50 PM
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Yep, like every other community, same goes to nonmonogamy it really different in real life than in a lot communities on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:25 PM
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Plenty, at least 30-40%. Some of them are on this sub, for shit and giggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:13 PM
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Personality is in your control - you work on it. Socialize. You analyze your behavior, put mask on and it become your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:54 AM
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Not enough foreplay Not deep enough knowledge about sex and pleasure Orgasm and it's quality depends a lot on state of mind
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:17 PM
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Its about rules, boundaries and care in a relationship. Not really about emotionally invested or not. Well, if person don't give a shit about what their partners up to - probably they checked out of relationship long ago. The line is simple: if one wants to control theirs partner life - its controlling behavior. But if someone using autonomy to not being accountable for their behavior - it's not controlling behavior it is stepping on someones boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:10 PM
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It's much less right vs left and more demo vs reps. Democrats discarded men from everywhere they could, so men just aligned with what left to them. A lot of "right" don't like T, but they don't like Democrats more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:42 PM
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I think your self-estime was destroyed by your ex, and a lot of issues comes from that relationship. So you need to heal mentally. And gonna be brutally honest with you, you cannot change the cards you are dealt, so you should work on what you can work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:13 AM
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No one enlited to anything in their life, but if you want to be a decent human being or be in relationship - you have responsibilities and obliged to behave certain way. Noone owe you anything, people care about others because they want to. I don't even know how debate it, because it's so idiotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:50 PM
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And men don't? It's just human behavior, not women speciality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:18 PM
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Its a first fucking date. Who the fuck are you guys dating? Women. I don't know why you so mindblown by that. Im talking about give-and-takes, compromises, showing care, BEING LIKABLE. Everyone knows that, and a lot of people behave that way. Funny enough it's usually women who shows nothing from that list of qualities on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:37 PM
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Thats the basics of a first date…….. You guys sound like you’re dating hookers or prima donnas. It's only basics, and being a fun company is usually mandatary in dating but far from only trait needed. Same thing here, when a persons victim complex is that strong, it spills into how they think and behave, especially when they have no social tact. It is, but our discussion was about male friendship and inability to be emotionally intimate with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:17 PM
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So you guys arent even fun to be around and you’re around women you also dont enjoy to be around. You enjoy company with a guy or have something to talk about - it more than enough to become friends with that guy. I dunno where you get from that "you guys arent even fun to be around". Dating is much more complex than just being a fun company to be around. So your comparison between finding friends and dates are not eligible. And yet thats a majority of the guys crying about male loneliness and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:03 PM
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No, it is just how rules are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:49 PM
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What are you guys doing on dates? Talking, drinking, flirting. People also have to impress others to get them to be friends. No? Fun to be around is more than enough. Proving my post’s point. With males, you’re basically finding acquaintances you share hobbies with. With females, we actually like to enjoy their presence and the friendships can get emotionally intimate to that of a lover. It's not. Friendship with males is different - you are not supposed to be emotionally intimate - you can ask …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:46 PM
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I was bored, i saw another ragebait by LillthOfBabylon and now i am not. I believe a lot of struggles with women young people have comes from the way people live now. Too much social media not so much real life experiences. Second point is coming from the fact that dating nowadays and making friends are two parallel worlds and depends on entirely different traits. In dating you need to impress women, in friendship you need just have a few aligned views or hobbies. You can have a lot of friends b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:01 PM
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Nah, "Everything in the world is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power" But in this case it's about validation. So, obviously SW won't make a thing if person wants validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:28 PM
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Yep, i find it very strange how many people are fixated on casual sex. For me, it's masturbation with extra steps and validation. I guess it's decent for a few times to get it out of the system, more than that? Nah. It's okay if you like it, but most people will always prefer sex in a relationship. And there is common idea that casual sex is empowering for women - it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:06 AM
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I'm not against your choice. This post isn't about who chooses what partners. The other question is whether you condemn promiscuous women in your circle. Nope. I don't really understand: why should you have such a strong sense of self-control during sex? It's enough to use protection and be safe. But if you want sex and someone offers it to you, why refuse it? Not fan of casual sex, has different view on physical intimacy, want to have it with special someone or for mental health are legit reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:21 PM
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It's not slut-shaming - it's preference. Preferably i won't date virgin for example, am i virgin shaming? No, just had my experience, and decided: nu-uh. I won't date high b-count too: 60+. There are a lot reasons: RJ Fear of cheating Fear of settling (legit one) Feeling that nothing will be special in the physical intimacy Different view on sex After all, past is good indicator of the future. If person sleeps with everyone who says: lets fuck - it seem that person lack impulse control - not a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:02 PM
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It's kinda hard topic. Obviously you should trust your partner. But people who was cheated on in the past a lot knows very well that you can trust partner all you want - it doesn't guarantee anything. We (men) heard numerous stories when "perfect" family with 3 kids desolate when it comes to light that all 3 kids not from the partner. Men and women cheat, not everyone obviously, but women can guarantee that child theirs, men can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:51 AM
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Yep, very elaborate and accurate answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:36 AM
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What does that have to do with men choosing not to approaching It has to do with fact that men and women wants relationship mostly on the same level. but more so doing it regardless of negative results is not a good strategy Then you need to change your strategy, improve yourself to raise chances, not stopping at all. But overall you are right - if you dont think it worth the effort it is okay to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:45 PM
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Women less on dating apps because: a) They don't need it, they are approached in real life b) Don't want to make even first step in initiation c) Tired of dickpicks roulette. e) Don't want to have casual sex You can speak with women in real life: it's easy to get laid but hard to get any good relationship. The women that speaks in media about how men a bad - are permanently single toxic people that even won't get laid. i am not against relationships or even socialising, i am for deprioritizing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:22 PM
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The only women dominated meetups for women in their 20s-early 30s are women-only meetups. Literally every other meetup will have more men unless they're specifically targeted to older people. I guess it depends on region. Not that many from my experience. Approaching them is one thing but succeeding is another. Well, it always has been random. This is true, but it's honestly a lot harder to develop close female friendships past college than it is actually getting a date in my experience. By the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:10 PM
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Meetups- Complete sausage fests, the only women there were already married If you go male dominated meetups - there will be sausage fest, women dominated - non sausage fest. Bars and concerts- Most women are there with their SO or with their friends with no interest in meeting guys. The few that are interested in meeting guys will only go for the hottest/most charismatic guy there. Girls will almost certainly ignore you if you're alone especially. A lot of single women that can be approached. Mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:45 PM
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The problem is, aside from the good salary, because that's not easy to get, those things are guaranteed with effort , and they are a sure deal. There is 100% guarantee that it will objectively improve your life, pay off, and be a success There is nothing in this world is guaranteed - economy can collapse, you boss can end up in jail and you will be blacklisted for fraud or person can just fall ill. Putting effort into getting a relationship doesn't guarantee a positive result; it increases the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:25 PM
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Cool, but having tasty food or good vacations is optional too. Being fit is optional, having a good salary is optional too. If you want to get a relationship as a man you have to approach in dating world. Women don't need to approach anyone - they will have the options anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:54 PM
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Or you can shit on feminist opinion in this topic, more precisely on online feminists' opinion. And them is not the group you would date, so why bother? These double standarts or guidelines how to raise a men as eunuchs can be just skipped. Feminists advice on dating and character traits are about how to make person unattractive as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:48 PM
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What happens when large portions of the population never marry and never have children? Birth rates will continue to collapse, a lot of problems will emerge including economy and social norms. What happens when millions of men feel permanently excluded from sex relationships and family life? IDK, probably more mgtow, raise (even more than now) SW, worsening mental health. But percentage of excluded men will be never big enough, most men will still end up in a relationships. Women want sex and re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:04 PM
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TRP has a good logic behind it - winning mentality, trying to be best from the best. Even if you not checking all the boxes, being good at competition named dating gives you upper hand. The problem is a lot of people in TRP are meh, they are trying to be edgy fuckers with 0 game and wonders why they are unsuccessful. Tate is not real TRP - he is attention-whore compensating his lack of character with money and escorts. TRP nowadays is whinny boys that hate women by the fact that they are unsucce…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:54 PM
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More like men frustration with dwindling options to approach or even meet women. For example, i knew a few guys that never had any interaction with women at all outside of work/college, and i don't think it's good trend. And obviously double standart: "Why noone approaches me".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:24 PM
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It's exists: i know a few examples of second scenario: It's a common thing after infidelity: when one partner did it only with AP and refuse to do it after R. I know person from ENM who experienced it, the reason was "no vibe", marriage obviously ended in divorce. And my favorite: "i don't like it anymore", don't know the reason but heard and seen it a few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:28 AM
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There are probably some women that are attracted to asshole because he is asshole, but for 99% of population it is negative trait. If men think that being asshole increase their chances, more power for them (and less pussy).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:57 PM
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It's obvious that being an asshole in negative trait that affects whole life including dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:42 PM
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Are you aware not every guy is just looking for a warm hole to stick his dick in? You are too focused on sex and hook ups, i am speaking about early dating overall. YOU ARE ON A DATE. Why else would she be on a date? Is it because you’re flaunting money at her? Because bored, for example. For jestermaxxing, maybe. As a man you will have plenty of dates where women will just sitting emotionless and checking insta or other app. And all her answers will be: uh, oh, ok. And how often men gets second…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 04:11 PM
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If the guys were so focused on "compatibility" all of them would be single, because almost never women will go out of their ways to show that they are interested, and why should they? They have dozens of matches, one wrong move, next. And you think that women care a lot of about men as a person in first 3 dates? Didn't like music in cafe, next, stars didn't align the right way, next, someone else wrote in app that want to meet, next. Dating as a guy is same as applying for a job, you are one in …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:07 PM
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Nu uh. The problem to survive first few dates, after that attraction is ensured met. A lot of people can get first date, never the second one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:32 PM
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And similar interests has nothing to do with attraction, while it's good having similar interests in a relationship, attraction wise it doesn't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:08 PM
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Whats wrong? That relationship can be romantic without sex for a long time? I doubt it, i seen plenty of slow burner relationships where one party is waiting for a "special moment" and other is fucking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:03 PM
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Obviously it's easier to escalate if you are "compatible". If you are not you will end up blocked. The thing is if you are not pursuing her enough, someone will.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:59 PM
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Relationship can be romantic without sex not really for a long time. If you handholdinh for 6 month, probably someone railing her in a situationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:57 PM
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I don't know why women on this sub are always: "they cannot see women as actual human beings", someone hurt you? If men was focusing on "compatibility", it's attraction, not a compatibility but anyway, they were ALL single with a few exceptions. Only a few women will go out of their ways to show that they are really interested in a guy, and until he sealed a deal it's all about being in a orbit of her. It's a men who pursue in dating not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:51 PM
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No, its not. And i am not saying pressing for sex on second date, but as soon as possible you should try to escalate relationship as a man. Women often says: "oh, you should try to knew each other better first", when guy ends up in a friendzone. "you should pressured for romantic relationship, now you are friend". It's the same with friendship between genders: "you only want sex from women, you should try to become friend first" and next "you trying to make friends with opposite gender to have r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:33 PM
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If you don't escalate soon enough as a man you will end up in a friendzone. It's simple as that. For men dating is about winning over her against other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:47 AM
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If you remove 3rd world countries where you can be killed fo 1$ and islamic regimes where women seen as furniture, i would say takes one women rights are decently solid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:45 PM
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It's survived some time even after fall of USSR, and if there wasn't US creating taliban, there won't be taliban. And well, Afghanistan is shitshow, it's no men land, where should noone live. If you are trying to make people to think other way about women's rights, this country is far from perfect examples. Pedo is norm there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:44 PM
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Afghanistan regime is not natural, it's joke instead of country. It's a tribal shitshow, if you want to merit people to this regime, well, you are welcome to visit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:37 PM
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If US didn't fuck up with taliban, there would be no taliban but pro-communist regime with women's rights. And plenty of countries maintained them even after collapse, the thing is Afghanistan and other islamic regimes are against women's rights and will find 101 ways to return shitshow they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:35 PM
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What the fuck. What if she is not shallow, what if you are hottest guy she slept with, what if she loosing her mind about you. Everyone should date someone they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:28 PM
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I am yet to see a real feminist men that are wanted by women. Even feminists will never date a guy with a "right" traits and behavior. And there are a lot of women in this sub that operates in black and white, if you are not feminist you are MAGA and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:36 PM
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Progressive people are trying to raise castrates instead of men, are castrates desirable? No. I think its one of the reasons of male loneliness epidemic, because men in western countries are weak and not masculine. I never saw a feminists men that were succesful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:30 PM
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I think i understand it. And i answered on perfect example of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:30 PM
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Greatest boogeyman of europe, Russia. Edit: i moved from Russia a few years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:09 PM
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I mean i seen it plenty of time when men are blamed because their partner cheated. Just not in US.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:41 PM
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Well to be fair, first situation is not that uncommon but it has deeper roots in patriarchy. Where i am from it's a common justification used when women cheats, but i have yet to see it in US.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:23 PM
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Well the first scenario i seen firsthand, but it's patriarchal construct thats not so common is US.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:21 PM
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Ah, my favourite DARVO, if you are not okay with the fact that she uses you for money you are insecure. If she had her phase and now wanting a good guy that will be here for her for crumbs of what she gave others - it's insecure behavior, i get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:22 PM
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Than she can wait for a good man, indefinitely. Because you don't go to Burger King and pay for it as michelin restaurant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 11:45 AM
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They lost election - thats why. Now they lost their shit on how it happened and trying to find who is responsible for that? Blame themselves? No, lets blame men, again - maybe they will win next election if men would be blamed enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 11:32 AM
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Easy, i would divide traits that make people attractive in 3 groups: traits that makes person desired and attractive, traits that encourages to date this person, traits that have positive effect on dating. Group 1: Looks, Status, Charisma, Social verification Group 2: Humor, Intellect, Money, Future proof, Chivalrous approach, confidence. Group 3: All other shit that people usually overestimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:58 AM
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Dom/Sub dynamic yes, sadistic aspects - no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:59 AM
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The modern man has become a scavenger for validation, addicted to the approval of women because he lacks the spine to validate himself. If we are not talking about tampliers time, not so modern man was the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:58 PM
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There is a huge misconception in redpill, that misogynistic men are more successful at dating than everyone. The thing is mysogyny is negative trait that lowers desirability of men, but it's not a trait that is crucial in being attractive or not. It's a trait that usually overshadowed by other traits. Women often closes their eyes on the fact that person is mysoginistic if they are attractive enough. And person who is desirable by the fact they exists can give zero shit about societal norms - so…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:24 PM
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Femboymaxxing, transmaxxing? We finally reached good debates on purplepilldebate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:03 AM
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It seems i should finally start working on my project instead of spending time here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:29 AM
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Actually if you had sex you are still a virgin, because atoms never collide.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:22 AM
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Oh finally interesting topic. It's obvious that a lot of men and women wants love. But dating market become perfect example of consumerism, total individualism and atomization. Or maybe it always has been that way. But i disagree a lot on your ideas about love and lust and how they are divided. Love is more complex feeling, but it is a feeling, fueled by feelings, emotions and actions. There is a reason why LDR are so infamous. Love is about desire, trust, care, passion, building life and future…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:02 AM
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Nice ragebait, being desirable is good, sleeping with as many women as possible is not. I don't know why casual and hook ups are so desired by men, validation? Yes, i get it. But there is nothing special in it, it's not mindblowing experience, far from it. It's mediocre sex at best, STI at worst. Doing a lot to become hot and desirable is right thing to do. Sacrificing everything to get hook ups? It's mental.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:50 PM
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I dunno why RP so greedy, if feels like most RP dudes are hobomaxxing. If you think you will get laid just because you payed a few drinks and pasta - you damn wrong. if you have a lot of money, you can get a sugar baby who will be leagues hotter than any woman who you can date from paying for her pasta. If you are typing this post here, you are leagues below people who can be sugar daddies. To spend a few grands just because, it's okay behavior for them. As someone who payed before, most of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 11:55 AM
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Both have some truth behind it, RP is radical and extreme - a lot of RP advices are harmful. Bluepill advices just don't align with reality most of the times at all. Where bluepill fails is dogma that you just need a right person, be yourself and so on - will it help? Hell, no. A lot of "mainstream" BP ideas is bullshit. Dating is competition and you need tools to win it. Where is RP is right: you either a winner or looser, there is no second places.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 07:17 PM
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Men would love to be sexually objectified sometimes, it's like a comparison one is starving in desert and one is drowning in sea. I experienced it plenty of times, it's nice; grabbing my dick not so nice - it's SA. It seems you can't differentiate SA and sexually objectified. Being desired just because i exist is nice feeling, not so common for man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:31 PM
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How often have you seen men display their abuse during the stranger/talking phase of a relationship and still get play exactly? Sometimes. Sometimes they are good at hiding it, sometimes not - they straight up abusive from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:42 AM
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Man she chooses can just not accept her, simple as that. If woman will threat you wild way as she was before - then there is nothing lost. If she just settles down throw her ass out of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:53 AM
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Holy shit, how greedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:48 PM
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Getting free meal is worse? In what world?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:42 PM
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You are speaking about small portion of people, as i said earlier most people sucks at dating not because of their bad behavior. It it a common sense, in your logic HALF of male gen z have behavior issues and noone wants to be around them. he BIGGEST REASON that women state they are unattracted to men in 2026 is their BEHAVIOR and PERSONALITY. THE biggest. Then why performative men are so unsuccessful in dating? The answer is simple: there are traits that makes man a desirable in dating and only…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:40 PM
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every time a woman is posted to any random ass subreddit there will be at LEAST 3-4 comments by a man degrading her for her choices in outfit, appearance, or activity. THAT is an antisocial behavior Oh no, someone random typed some random shit ON REDDIT? How it goes to other 95% of people? And anti-social behavior are not that common, yeah, maybe plenty of people not the best people relationship wise, but nothing like nobody want to be around them. I seen plenty of abusive guys successful at dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:17 PM
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It is actually very good point, and thats why i am not fun of casual sex and situationships. A lot of "game" builds on lies and misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:16 PM
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Dating for men usually is hard. And people always complain about anything online.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:40 AM
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I think it's worth pointing out it's very culturally colored. Not really? I am originally from another country (eastern europe) - shit almost the same, even worse in some instances. But in the American discourse, everything is much more centered on individualism, competititiveness and market thinking. Almost in every country it's same shit. Dating is about competitiveness and market thinking, the only thing that different is individualism - in that Murica is winning. It is just scandinavian coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 10:40 AM
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The thing is it's not about entire sense of worth depends on being chosen by women, but it is huge chunk of life. And plenty of people are missing it nowadays. People always make a plan how to achieve their goals. Want to make more money - improve your skills, study new thing etc. Want to have better health - train more, eat healthy and etc. Want to date better - start to self-improve. It's everywhere because many people are lonely - and they are trying to plan how to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 10:31 AM
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No, and while some people will say that it's tied to having options - it's not. And cheater that cheats entire relationship is serial cheater - they cheat because they can. And there is no real logic behind it: It can be dead bedroom or not. It can be dysfunctional relationship or not. Sometimes there is a reason why person cheat, sometimes they cheat because why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:29 AM
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Well, we have different of views on that topic. I don't believe that people have worth just because they exist. Life is worth to live it, but for a person being rejected by everyone so his value for everyone is none. You can cope or you can try to change it. In my framework John can try to raise his value or die trying. Self-improvement for example. And there is a chance that he will achieve his goals, at least some of them. In my way John can hate himself forever or change things, he either win…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 10:20 PM
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Sex is tangible value. Companionship, especially if you’re lonely, is tangible value. I agree, prostitution is a paid service, but i don't like your misogynic takes, are you trying to slut-shame? You are against sex worker or women at all? Are you trying to say that all women a prostitutes? Because there is only that way to understand your ideas of tangible value. Sex and companionship are things that benefits both parties. Saying "i will give a sex and companionship and give me princess treatme…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 10:05 PM
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And how it contradicts what i said earlier? Either woman is attracted to you and there will be point in shooting your shot, or she is not. Social skills will not help you a lot in making yourself attracted by that woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:38 PM
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Wrong choice of word i guess. I don't believe that there are no creeps, plenty of them. But there are many instances when the same words said the same way in the same moment by two different man: one will be creep and one will be flirty guy. Attraction matters the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:28 PM
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People are social creatures, and most people happiness rely on social interactions with different people. Most people rely on others for validation - only some mythical creatures will not. And the idea of burden you place on others is pretty stupid. Yeah, plenty of people uses others for validation of their self-worth, but validation exists everywhere: is he respected in his job, is he described as good father/friend/partner and so on. For example, there is a random John that is unsuccessful in …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:24 PM
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Everyones self-worth is based on people outside. How they perceived from outside, if noone love, desires or wants a person - noone chooses them. It means their value as romantic partner is none and nobody wants to believe that they are defective.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:03 PM
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Because people measure themselves by people around them. Life is a competition, life of a man is constant competition and fight with everyone. And one of most validating proof of their value is being chosen. People, not only men strive for validation that they are good enough, they are attractive, they are desired. It's true that you should not pedestalise women, but coping with idea that friendships and hobbies can be used as a replacement for romantic relationship is stupid too. Self-improveme…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:53 PM
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Bruh, soft skills are important in life, not just dating. But it's not really that important in dating. What difference between being creepy and flirty? Attraction. And thats it, you can be shy AF and get laid in one hour after meeting a person. Obviously there are some people with insane game, but they are very rare. If women really attracted to you everything will be extremely easy, but if she is not into you there is no social skills on earth will help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:37 PM
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Because partner decided to, for example. It is common misconception that there is something wrong with the partner who are rejected in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:35 PM
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But they are fixable or temporary. And most of the time sex drive dwindles not because of serious reasons, but lack of trying to work on it. How many dead bedrooms are dead because of hormonal imbalances? Not that many. I am not saying you should divorce because of postpartum or illness. But when partner downgrades you to roommate it is valid reason for break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:42 PM
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The thing is, most of the time sex drive is controllable. Sex in a LTR is something that should be worked on. Most ask question in MC is about frequency of sex. When one partner decides that he is celibate, it won't end well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:32 PM
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Mostly true, but at the same time there are very weird boundaries in flirting. Like for some people sexual innuendo is harrasing, some people speaks only in sexual innuendo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 06:09 PM
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First, i do not even know the point of that debate. You wrote "If you admit that our species isn't perfect enough for monogamy, then the logical conclusion is that monogamy, like communism, doesn't really work." I said that monogamy works plenty of times, and cheating is not an issue of relationship structure but of a person with bad character and lack of impulse control. Secondly: cheating is a breach of trust, betrayal - cheating exists in poly too. There are boundaries in enm and breach of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:08 PM
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I am not even in monogamous relationship, i am in poly relationship. And i do not consider people who living a bachelor life selfish idiots, while i think it is shitty, not morally - just unfulfilling. And people change partners throughout their lives, but most mono and people want to find that relationship to have it till the end. Our debate was about the fact of cheating and that is not some kind of impending doom that programed in people, but the lack of self-control and shitty character.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:47 PM
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If selfish idiots destroy your ideal, then your ideal is weak. I know plenty relationship that live and strive without cheating. It is not ideals that weak, it is weak people. You won't give people a purpose for self-control if they're simply not interested in your values What the shit is it. People who are not interested in these values living their bachelor life. For a lot of people the idea of monogamy is having long term relationship or permanent one. But some people lack in many departments…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:32 PM
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Or some people just don't have impulse control and selfish idiots. It's simple just that. In your logic our species are perfect for poly? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:01 PM
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Or too many people just selfish and do not give a shit about anything than an image of a men they wants them to be. Not so many guys are trauma dumping, most guys had experience - open up - destroy relationship. And about narcissism - i love these takes that many people trying to use about opening up, like "why you want in relationship to have any kind compassion, no no you should go to therapist, friends, and other safety network." And why the fuck do i need relationship where the moment you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:52 PM
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Wow, it seems you do not understand what personality means. Photo do not show anything other than look and money. Profile can show nothing too - it just a few phrases. You won't even have a glimplse into person personality before first 20 minutes of date.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:33 PM
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Maybe there will be something more than "yes it is". In what point you can even show your personality before date? In app's photos?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:27 PM
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No, it is not. In what moment of getting date you can even show a personality. Yeah, after dates when you forming a relationship it is another story. Edit: i mostly talking about online dating
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:24 PM
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Well, lookism is a bit new thing for men, also many men anger on attitude to body-positivity. Especially about height.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:16 PM
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Nope, it's not. Plenty of genuinely nice guys have no trouble getting dates. It is, personality do not have anything to do with getting dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:12 PM
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I think not, like most beautyfull women would bail out from asshole as soon as possible, even if he is 10 out of 10 looking wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:10 PM
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Ofc attractions important, but today attraction formed by looks only, online dating after all. These guys have problem to even hit to first base. If online dating vanishes - these epidemic will end.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:07 PM
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Ofc woman would care about Bcount, she need to know how many people he killed. But if being serious, his ideas about it is delusional at best, or maybe he is high.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:57 PM
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Nah, while it is true that fuckboys are respected by some dudes, thats basicly it. If you don't want to be below your future girlfriend you should make it a life goal to sleep with as many women as possible Shit, it is most incel-shit i ever read. It is impressive. No women give a shit if your BC lower than her, probably she will find it sweet, but put you lower? hell no. And your fixation with casual sex is strange, casual sex is mediocre at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:54 PM
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Noone owe anything in a relationship, it is just matter of fact. But if you want for a relationship to survive it is matter of fact that a person will want to have anything that their partner provided to ex. It is not good thing to talk about exes, but lets speak about hypothetical situation: she did often did anal with ex, now she does not. Her bf knows about it and want to have it too, she denies - now for him, he is not valued or desired the same way as it was with ex. Not really good foundat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:48 PM
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Yeah, its not gendered. But it is a bit different, after all we are in a 21 century. For me it is less about sexual and affectionate, and more about desire and convenience. My point is physical attraction is very important, desire, passion. After all its one of basics that form romantic relationship. It doesn't make everything in a relationship, but without a desire it won't end well. If both partner desires each other it is cool. When it is not the problems starts popping. Edit: "Where such men…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:28 PM
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Maybe for you it is true, but there are too many examples when it is not. It is usual problem, woman want a hot guy for a hookup, and stable provider as a husband. When they are both the same person it is good, but there are not so many men that will be qualified for her as hookup material - it is like top 5% - the chances to have that type of a partner that will want to spend his whole life with her and have qualities to be marriage material are slim. So she just settles for a guy that will be …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:05 PM
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But your man you would rather be in a relationship is a hookup material. Would you hook up with him? He is just better than any hook up material. He has qualities that make him better than any possible hook ups. But it is not that you wont have a hook up with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:40 PM
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Either way, X is a dumb investment of time and energy. Well, i wont say that it is dumb investment of time and energy for some dudes who want only sex, but relationship-wise you are right. Much of what men still use as the sales pitch to date women comes from the time in which getting a woman required impressing another man. I do not get where you got that from, in no world it required to impress another man, well most of the time in this period of time most of the marriages were arranged. Think…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:12 PM
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But X wont only get you an interview, it will get you job, obviously the job you will loose after. And its pretty accurate, dating is interview nowadays, basicly HR dream. Turning, "I haven't had a relationship yet," into, "I will def never have a relationship," is not a mature thought process and is not supported by any of the data I dunno how our debate went from the fact that women feminist fight against gender norms and masculinity and the same time encourages it through dating to data scien…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:11 PM
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Men's behavior is the strongest evidence that they do not prioritize the messages they receive from women over the messages they receive from other men. And nothing that you said have anything to do with opinion of men. If women had as much influence on men as other men do, the bros would be flooding therapists' and doctors' offices. Men do not flood therapists because it seen as being weak by society. Society discourage men to be vulnerable, emotionally open etc. They'd be present, active and n…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:41 AM
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Expectations of men a created by other women, not men. Most men do not give a shit about opinion of other men. Modern women tries to fight against patriarchy and masculinity, and they are the ones who promotes it between men mostly. Todays dating scene is basicly masculinity in its uber form. Winner takes everything. Competition in it its finest. Traits that a valued today in a dating scene are far from what women talks about: being most handsome, strongest, tallest, have high salary - everythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:57 PM
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