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In the UK, Clare's law allows the police to disclose any violent or abusive offending committed by a current or potential intimate partner, allowing individuals to make an informed decision before entering into a relationship with a potentially abusive partner. I would not support a publicly accessible registry as this could undermine as this could undermine other initiatives designed to rehabilitate former offenders. Disclosures related to abusive offending should only be given on a need to kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 08:19 PM
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If, in your view, there should be no legal consequences for a slap, does your argument not have the result that it ought to be a de facto permissable response to a perceived insult?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/22 03:57 PM
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Perhaps a joke is embarrassing, but doesn't justify a slap.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/22 09:00 AM
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It's not default wrong to report to the police if you are a victim of crime. I think Chris can see Will is clearly not in a good place mentally and coupled with the fact that he has offered a public apology has somewhat diffused the situation. I still think Will should offer an in person apology to Chris, but given that they already know each other I suppose Chris felt there was little to be gained by pressing charges.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/22 05:07 PM
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It's not default wrong to report to the police if you are a victim of crime. I think Chris can see Will is clearly not in a good place mentally and coupled with the fact that he has offered a public apology has somewhat diffused the situation. I still think Will should offer an in person apology to Chris, but given that they already know each other I suppose Chris felt there was little to be gained by pressing charges.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/22 05:07 PM
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In most jurisdictions, prosecutorial proceedings can go ahead regardless of the wishes of the victim. There is more than enough evidence to convict Will Smith without Chris Rock's testimony. It seems odd the police have so quickly dismissed the possibility of criminal proceedings simply because Rock isn't bothered, which, let's be honest, may in part be because he doesn't want the hassle of dealing with law enforcement and prosecutors.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/22 09:38 AM
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Hardly. No meaningful solutions are ever offered to support male mental health and counter the male suicide rate. The best men are offered is advice to cry more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 02:49 PM
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It's just a stick to beat people with. The Avitall Ronell case shows how feminists react when one of their own is accused.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/22 10:31 PM
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Also Russian law forbids conscripts from being deployed overseas with their expressed consent. Many of the Russian conscripts serving in Ukraine have either been forced or duped into signing the contracts enabling their deployment into a foreign theatre of war. Not to mention a large proportion of the Russian troops appear to have been fed the lie that their mission in Ukraine is of a peacekeeping nature. One way or another, most of these soldiers are not fighting in Ukraine out of their own fre…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/22 10:51 PM
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In the UK, more than two thirds of live births are to mothers aged below 35. Fewer than 5% of lives births are to mothers aged over 40 and only 0.3% to those aged over 45. Even if the argument that the most fertile segment of the female population should be shielded from the dangers of war is accepted, there is still a large portion of women that do not contribute to the birth rate who could be asked to serve.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/22 11:22 PM
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"My ideal solution is for no one to be forced to serve in the military against their will, so therefore I am going to oppose any initiatives to abolish mandatory conscription for men."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/22 11:08 PM
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Not to mention perpetuating the same association of the male sex with the ability to carry out violence that is usually lambasted as toxic masculinity outside of wartime. Masculinity suddenly isn't toxic now the barbarians are at the gates.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/22 11:06 PM
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Well, we all know how supportive society is of male mental health.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/22 11:04 PM
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Meme posted on Political Bible's Facebook page today satirising the breakdown in feminist desire for gender equality now conscription is being enacted in response to the Russia Ukraine crisis.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/22 05:23 PM
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Men conscripted to fight in war: women are the real victims as they are not seen as suitable candidates for military service because of benevolent sexism. Male suicide rate four times higher than female suicide rate: benevolent sexism means women can open up about mental health - real victims are women. 99% of workplace deaths are men: women are the real victims because benevolent sexism won't allow them to risk their health and safety in dangerous industrial roles. Men literally can't win. Any …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/22 10:58 AM
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In the US, 61% of men, compared with just 38% of women, support extended the draft to mandate compulsory military service for both genders. Women overwhelmingly support the status quo where it is only men who are legally required to assume responsibility for the defence of their country.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/22 10:35 AM
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What country is this happening in? In the UK, if he has fewer than 2 years' service, they can dismiss him for almost any reason so long as it's not on discriminatory grounds in relation to a protected characteristic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/22 01:57 PM
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The same phenomenon exists with women lusting after male serial killers. There will always be people fascinated by a topic as sensationalised as murder - it's not something to read too deeply into.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:01 PM
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Is the idea that men are protected indirectly because they are less likely to contract the virus from women who are immunised? I think I am correct in saying that men who have sex with men are offered the HPV vaccine in the UK as they obviously do not benefit from the protection afforded to immunised women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/22 02:18 PM
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Also keep location tracking enabled on Google Maps or similar to keep a log of your movements to ensure you always have some sort of an alibi in case you are falsely accused of committing a crime in a location you were never present at.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/22 06:27 PM
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It just seems like women have an entirely different culture toward dealing with this stuff. Some of my female friends have spoken about legitimately distressing experiences involving unwanted sexual behaviour from men and there definitely are deep issues that need addressing. It seems, however, that the amount of violent and intimidatory behaviour often directed at men is just not spoken about and men as a whole are really expected not to speak about it. This must create a divide on how men and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/22 01:52 AM
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ONS figures indicate 1.6% of adults were victims of violent crime in the year ending March 2020 and 1.8% of adults were victims of sexual crime over the same period, so I wouldn't exactly say it's not worth thinking about the danger. Although the proportions of people that become victims of crime in a given year are small, they are not zero. I agree with you in the sense that crime rates in the Western world will be significantly lower than those in the developing world, but it's not an issue we…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/22 05:59 PM
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I mean, its not completely safe for anyone. Its sensible for everyone to have some basic awareness of crime and employ basic precautions to keep safe. The fault is with the media for creating an environment of fear and convincing women that they are at drastically heightened risk of being victimised. It becomes difficult to present the actual stats in a rational way when women have been indoctrinated to have a visceral fear of crime. Equally, the expectation that men shouldn't display fear and o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/22 05:33 PM
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Just look at the case of the wrongly convicted man falsely accused of Alice Sebold. This case should have sparked a broader examination around how the clearly inaccurate testimony of a woman was almost solely responsible for seeing a completely innocent man wrongly convicted and imprisoned. This case was a direct consequence of the "believe women" narrative.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/22 05:26 PM
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When I was a student, I knew one guy that was mugged while walking home from the pub and another that was beaten over the head with a metal pipe during a robbery. I myself was nearly robbed by two guys that assaulted me outside a nightclub - I only managed to get away because I resisted and they realised I wasn't as drunk as I looked. On another occasion I had a lunatic literally hurl abuse and threats at me in the middle of a busy train station after I refused to let him borrow my mobile phone.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/22 04:19 PM
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Would be interesting if there was a study that looked at risk of crime purely as a function of gender and controlled for other factors like age, socioeconomic status, level of precautions etc. Men are more likely to be in risky situations that lead to higher exposure to crime - i.e. men are more likely to be homeless, be imprisoned, achieve poorer outcomes in education and engage in substance abuse, all of which put the individual at greater risk of becoming a victim of crime. It would be intere…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/22 04:01 PM
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This goes to the heart of this issue, doesn't it? From a literal standpoint, she is correct. Anxiety and fear of crime is higher among women, yet men in reality are more likely to actually become victims of crime. The question that needs answering is this: what is a more pressing issue, womens' increased fear of crime or mens' increased risk of crime? Phenomena such as the missing white woman effect definitely contribute to this increased perceived risk of crime among women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/22 03:14 PM
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I don't think it would be as simple as all crimes against women amounting to misogyny, I think prosecutors would need to demonstrate that the offender was motivated by a hostility toward women when committing the crime. As you say, how loosely these standards are applied is a matter for debate and there is of course the risk that the courts could simply consider all crimes committed by men against women to be hate crimes. Did the amendment also create a provision for crimes committed due to host…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/22 12:36 AM
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I honestly don't think that is far off. Being male is essentially de facto not a protected characteristic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/22 10:57 PM
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The rise in male sexlessness has been shown to be largely linked to the decline in marriage in Western countries. Young men are increasingly excluded from the institution of marriage owing to the real terms decrease in wages that have occurred in recent years and the explosion in property prices that have resulted from the housing crisis. Both men and woman are increasingly unable to access the economic resources and quality of housing that were available to previous generations and young men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 10:46 PM
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"It's the patriarchy's fault for refusing to recognise women as fully fledged adults" AA recognises the adult agency of women by treating men and women as equals "Women are oppressed by the patriarchy as the AA refuses to treat women as more helpless versions of men" There's no pleasing these people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/22 10:05 PM
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They should just admit that equality is the last thing they want. In the Twitter thread featured elsewhere they are literally lambasting the President of the company for saying that prioritising based on gender would be a breach of the Equality Act.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/22 09:59 PM
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I'm in favour of them making location as one of the factors by which they prioritise jobs. A motorway is clearly a far more dangerous place to break down than, for example, a car park. Equally, if the driver is genuinely vulnerable - elderly, underlying medical condition etc - I wouldn't be against this being factored in to the level of urgency assigned to the job. The issue here is making gender the sole basis by which they allocate response times to breakdowns.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/22 09:50 PM
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"We are more at risk physically than men in that situation. It's just a fact, I'm afraid." On what evidence does the MP base this claim? It is well known that men constitute the vast majority of murder and violent crime victims and are more likely than women to experience violence at the hands of a stranger. Based on this, one could easily argue that a stranded lone man is in more danger in that situation. The system of prioritising by location makes perfect sense - it seems obvious that a perso…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/22 09:40 PM
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Many feminists acknowledge the preponderance of murder victims that are men, but dismiss the disparity on the grounds that most men are killed by other men and therefore the issue should not warrant further examination. The same argument has been used in the past to dismiss so-called black on black crime.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/22 12:02 AM
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In the UK, over a third of violence against the person offences and nearly a fifth of sexual offences recorded by the police occured between intimate or former intimate partners in domestic settings. Crimes against woman aren't being fueled by social outcasts too inept to enjoy romantic success with women, rather perpetrators are often individuals who have been successful with women who commit their crimes while in intimate relationships. Further stigmatising socially backward men is not going t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/22 09:54 PM
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I don't understand how policies such as requiring voters to present identification can be met with such vehement opposition, yet normally liberal figures can openly suggest placing restrictions on an entire group of people (men) based on ability to pass a test. It should be well known that the subset of men most likely to be disadvantaged by such a policy are the poor, ethnic minorities and those with mental health problems. Its clearly a deeply iniquitous policy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/22 09:05 PM
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Not to mention men as a group are systemically disadvantaged in the education system, so would already face disproportionately large difficulties in passing any kind of test. And the men most likely to fail the test most likely wouldn't stick to any restrictions imposed on them anyway.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/22 07:00 PM
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Its not even that. Sarah Everard was literally murdered by a serving police officer, a man who would have had to go through extensive vetting to get to his position. If some of the most thorough checks imaginable were not able to root Wayne Couzens out, what makes this man thinks that imposing testing on men as a whole will improve the situation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/22 05:52 PM
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Replace "men" with "ethnic minorities" or "immigrants" in this piece and see what the public reaction looks like.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/22 05:47 PM
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I wonder what their response is to female murder victims murdered by other women. Should they also be ignored because their gender matched that of the assailant? No doubt they would somehow be able to find the patriarchy responsible for such situations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/22 10:40 PM
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At the end of the day, a murder is still a murder regardless of the identity of the perpetrator. Are feminists truly saying we should do nothing to recognise the ~75% of murder victims that a male simply because most of the assailants were men? It makes zero sense.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/22 10:37 PM
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It also ignores the social conditions that drives men to committ crime in the first place. Men forced into criminal gangs by economic privations, for example, make up a large chunk of both violent crime victims. The society expectation that men should assume the burden of providing economically for their families has the result that many men are forced into crime and encounter violent situations as a result. It is a far more nuanced picture than the "men are bad" narrative that is spun by femini…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/22 10:32 PM
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The obligatory comparison to the farcical argument made to dismiss so-called black on black crime must be made in this situation - the identity of the perpetrator does not lessen the impact of a murder.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/22 10:28 PM
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Quite a lot of the comments are suggesting reducing the use of imprisonment for non-violent offenders, but are failing to recognise that the woman in question was actually jailed for a racially aggravated assault. Clearly imprisonment was appropriate in this case as this person was a demonstrated danger to the community. Obviously, this in no way excuses the inhumane conditions clearly present in this prison.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/22 12:24 PM
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I thought the same. 10 month's custody seems very short for such a serious perverting the course of justice offence. As mentioned above, a previous case involving the swapping of speeding points resulted in an 8 month sentence, so just 2 months longer for a campaign of false accusations and fabricated evidence that could have cost a man his freedom and nearly led to him taking his own life does seem like a very light punishment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/22 11:49 PM
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Very sorry to hear of your experience, I hope things are going better for you now. If anything, narratives like "believe all women" just encourage these kind of fabrications. If you tell a group of people any accusations they make will be believed at face value without any due process or supporting evidence, you end up with a weaponised justice system exploited to fulfill the toxic aims of vindictive individuals.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/22 09:33 PM
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Of course they do. I don't think there is anything wrong with having initiatives specifically aimed at tackling crimes against women, after all both genders have different struggles in relation to crime, but using women's safety as a Trojan horse to enact Draconian drug crackdowns by the back door is clearly verging on being a dystopian tactic. Clearly, it is wrong that the Met Police has no strategy for dealing with violence against men and this is something that urgently needs addressing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/22 12:02 AM
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I'm not a lawyer, but yes I'm pretty sure the crime is to be in possession of a controlled substance. Just finding the presence of trace quantities of an illegal drug on a person's skin of clothing wouldn't necessarily be sufficient to prove criminal liability as the person could always claim ignorance to the presence of the substance and therefore not in possession.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/22 05:49 PM
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The argument for prohibition seems to go along the lines that drug use places money in the hands of criminal gangs and fuels violence in the community. What this argument fails to appreciate is that it is prohibition itself that drives the drugs trade underground into the realm of criminality and if drugs were legalised the legitimate business world could engage in supply, sidestepping the criminal gangs altogether and resulting in tax gains for the Exchequer at the same time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/22 03:14 PM
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Almost every politician in any position of power has admitted to have engaged in some sort of drug use. Boris Johnson and Michael Gove have both admitted to using cocaine at university and Keir Starmer, who once presided over the prosecutions of offenders, including prosecutions for drug related crimes, refused to deny that he had broken drugs laws while at university. In fact, an estimated 11% of the British public admit to having used an illegal drug in the past year. Is the Met Police really …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/22 03:10 PM
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How does deploying a disproportionately large amount of police resources to harass otherwise law abiding citizens using drugs for personal use do anything to enhance women's safety? Surely there are much more effective ways in which those officers could be deployed to more robustly protect women from crime.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/22 02:52 PM
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They would argue that the patriarchy limits the extent to which women are recognised as free agents and this is why they are less likely to be subjected to imprisonment than men. They would argue that sexist attitudes toward women are the ultimate drivers of the disparity in male and female incarceration rates and that it is women who are the real victims from the situation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/22 05:34 PM
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Well for a start the massively reduced likelihood that a woman will even end up in prison in the first place.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/22 05:23 PM
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The goal shouldn't be to hike up the number of women in prison to achieve parity with the incarceration figures for men. The goal should be to implement policies that divert people, particularly men, away from criminal activity in the first place and exploring alternatives to incarceration for people who have committed crimes to allow them to become useful members of society. Education and mental health are key factors behind criminality and men are disadvantaged in both of these areas. Improvem…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/22 03:19 PM
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Absolutely. High incarceration rates among men also stem from the lack of support for male mental health in most countries, the education gap between men and women that prevents men from obtaining the basic qualifications needed to access good quality jobs and the expectation that the burden for providing economic support should fall on the shoulders the male which can force men into criminal activities as a means to gain financial resources. 50% of prisoners are functionally illiterate (meaning…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/22 02:22 PM
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Essentially, the case for closing women’s prisons is the same as the case for imprisoning fewer men. The article starts with the claim that the case for reducing the incarceration rate for both men and women stem from the same line of argument, but then proceeds to completely disregard the arguments in favour of alternatives to imprisonment for men and solely focusses on the case for women. It appears the author could have quite easily argued for a universal reduction in the use of imprisonment …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/12/21 07:59 PM
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women make up just 7 percent of the prison population. This means that these women are disproportionately affected by a system designed for men The mental gymnastics they must have had to go through to reach this conclusion are just beyond belief. They cite a statistic showing that there are factor of 13 fewer women in prison than men and somehow reach the conclusion that it is women that are disproportionately affected by incarceration. The mind boggles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/12/21 05:11 PM
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One would have thought a mistake like that would have been enough to see the prosecution against Broadwater thrown out. Sebold was clearly an unreliable witness and it doesn't appear that she had a solid grasp on who her assailant actually was. The fact she felt so blasé about the misidentification in the police lineup that she was willing to publicise it in a well circulated book speaks volumes to her character. Shame on the authorities for proceeding with a prosecution on the basis of such fli…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 07:05 PM
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She didn't push back against it because she actively supported the prosecution of Broadwater. The article says that Sebold identified Broadwater as her attacker during witness testimony in the trial. This looks like a prosecution carried out with the full support of Sebold against an individual she had failed to identify in an earlier police lineup. It is even more grotesque that, as you pointed out earlier, Sebold has actually profited from Broadwater's wrongful imprisonment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 06:22 PM
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According to the article, Sebold identified Broadwater as her rapist during her witness testimony in the trial. Sebold gave this testimony despite originally identifying a different man as her attacker during the earlier police lineup. The testimony given by Sebold in the trial formed the cornerstone of the prosecution's case against Broadwater, with the only other evidence coming from now defunct forensic evidence. Without Sebold's witness statement, it is unlikely Broadwater would have been co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 06:07 PM
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I have seen this approach of deflecting attention away from men's mental health and suicide occur in a few places now. For instance, this article extensively examines the difficulties with mental health and suicide faced by ethnic minorities, the LGBTQ+ community, women and the poor while barely making any reference to the suicide epidemic among men. In fact, the vastly heightened risk of death by suicide faced by men is only included as an afterthought to the preponderance of suicide attempts a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/21 07:37 AM
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Now edited with the text broken up into paragraphs. Didn't realise how long it ended up being until after I had posted it!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/21 07:54 PM
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One of the usual rebuttals to the view that positive action is needed to improve the lives of men is that, in most countries, men occupy, and always have occupied, the overwhelming majority of positions of power - government, business etc - and therefore most of the issues facing men are problems that men have foisted upon themselves. How does one counter this argument? It is, after all, quite a compelling narrative. Is a potential counter that the men in power make decisions that benefit a smal…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/21 11:02 PM
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Interesting that this line of argument would be considered unacceptable if used in relation to black on black violence. It takes some serious mental gymnastics to take statistics that show men are on average 3 times more likely to be murdered than women and conclude that it is the women who are most in danger. Being a murder victim is hardly more pleasent if the gender of the victim matches that of the assailant. It is a fallacious argument and it is ludicrous to see it deployed so frequently.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/21 08:15 AM
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The biggest predictor of sexlessness among men is marriage - Institute for Family Studies data indicates the percentage of young men (age 25-34) who had not had a sexual encounter in the previous year was close to zero for married men, but was 15% for unmarried men. Marriage has increasingly become the preserve of the wealthy, with the percentage of 25-34 year olds who are married falling from a peak of 80% in 1960 to below 40% today. Low income and unemployed men are far less likely to be able …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/21 10:15 PM
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Most reputable studies show that homelessness is a predominantly male issue, though. A major societal issue cannot be properly dissected without thoroughly examining the demographic most affected by it. For instance, this study in the UK found that 86% of rough sleepers were men. Even among the homeless population, men are overwhelmingly most likely to suffer a negative outcome, with ONS data estimating that men accounted for nearly 90% of deaths among the homeless in 2018. The factors contribut…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/21 03:19 PM
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The attainment gap in education is another serious issue facing men. In most Western countries, including the UK where I am from, outcomes for boys in education are consistently lagging behind those for girls. Male enrollment in higher education is also on the decline. Very little is being done to address this problem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/21 02:04 PM
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In the UK, teachers are not allowed to use corporal punishment as a method of disciplining students and any teacher found to have engaged in physical abuse of students would almost certainly be struck off and would very likely find themselves the subject of legal action. It is, however, still legal in the UK for parents to hit their children as punishment providing no implements are used to inflict the punishment and the skin is not marked. I cannot say whether or not male children or more likel…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/21 09:55 PM
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I've updated the text so it should now be explicit who is being referred to. Thanks for the feedback.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/21 11:44 PM
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I accept that. I have referred to the husband as "David Jackson" and the wife as either "Penelope Jackson" or just "Jackson", but after rereading I see that this could have been made clearer.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/21 04:18 PM
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"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere". For many women, this concept may be an inconvenient truth. Superficially, the reluctance of society to hold women to account for wrongdoing could appear beneficial to women. After all, they are essentially enjoying special treatment from the justice system. As you say, this comes at the cost of declining to recognise the agency of women as independent actors and is therefore incredibly damaging to both women and men in the long run. The Avi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/21 03:52 PM
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It didn't occur to me to draw parallels between this case and the Caroline Flack case. Thanks for bring this up. While Caroline Flack's suicide was tragic, the outpouring of sympathy in the aftermath of her death completely sidestepped the issue of her being a domestic abuser and showed the total disregard society has for male victims. I doubt the suicide of a male abuser awaiting trial for assault would have been met with a similar outpouring of grief. Other comparable events could include the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/21 03:24 PM
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She was sentenced to life and must serve a minimum of 18 years in prison before she is eligible for parole. It is very likely that she will die in prison. The judge remarked that he did not detect "a shred of genuine remorse" from her and the daughter of the murdered husband told the court that she believed Jackson had "taken advantage" of a culture that does not support male victims of abuse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/21 02:31 PM
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Thanks for your insight. Interesting to hear the perspective from someone outside the UK. The husband here was by no means a saint and it does appear that he had engaged in abusive/violent conduct. That being said, stabbing him to death was clearly not a proportionate response. The narrative surrounding the case is overwhelmingly aimed at casting Penelope Jackson as a victim, pushed to the point of murder after years of abuse. Despite her murder conviction and the testimony illustrating that Jac…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/21 02:08 PM
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