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Just leave. This sub is lame. I posted this out of frustration with the whining here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:00 AM
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First, not a definition of nice, it’s a definition of “nice guy.” I’m talking about the stereotypical ‘nice guy’ not an actually nice person. Second, I disagree with your post. I think you’re misrepresenting TRP. I don’t think red pillers are trying to make women look bad. I think we genuinely believe most would prefer a confident asshole over a “nice guy”. The reason isn’t usually because women like douchebags. It is usually because women like confident and masculine men. (Although sometimes wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:11 PM
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3) your post is completely inaccurate about what red pill believes. “Nice guys” could be anything from being too interested in a woman to being nice to people because you think you can use it to manipulate people. For TRP being seen as a “nice guy” is almost always a bad thing. Women don’t like nice guys they like confident guys. TRP encourages guys to be confident and either discourages or takes no position on being “nice”. In my view being kind comes from a position of strength, being an assho…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:46 PM
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I think you’re overlooking the value plastic surgery can add. Lipo, suction BBL, implants, work out like it’s your job, and most women will be sexually desirable to most men. If you do these things you could double, triple or even quadruple that rate. Keep in mind that the plastic surgery could be done in one year or less and is significantly less expensive than schooling when you factor in opportunity cost. With all that being said, I feel bad for sex workers, even those who make bank. It’s a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:16 PM
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It’s kind of the point of red pill though
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:24 AM
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Aside from the book club advice that’s a very red pilled take.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:09 AM
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Sick burn
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:08 AM
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What you’re saying is a textbook non sequitor Alternatively you’re suggesting that we should hold mentally retarded people accountable for having low IQs
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:55 PM
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Women want men to be calm and collected. Jerks often appear calm and collected.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:47 PM
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I dont know. What I do know is that neurodivergent dudes that I know are incredibly socially awkward and afraid of romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:46 PM
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"Also, maladjusted males are more likely to externalize their problems, which again, make them far less likable in society. " maladjusted implies theres something morally wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:45 PM
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Saying sexual enthusiasm is for 'chads only' is masculinizing females. Men are the ones who give really 'high value' women airs and put them on pedestals. Sexual enthusiasm comes from being empathetic, compatible, and seductive. Being seductive usually requires empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:19 AM
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Get ripped. be 6'+ or be funny. (preferably all 3)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:16 AM
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I think you are missing the fact that there is a biological component. Women are better at socializing than men . If men and women both have a disability that makes it harder to socialize then a worse outcome is predictable. It's not because men or morally worse than women or whatever argument you are trying to make. It is because of inherent sex differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:15 AM
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Is this guy autistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:11 AM
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It depends on what you mean by a misogynist. A lot of women use that term incorrectly and/or really care about misogyny but excuse misandry. Men who can’t get sex usually suffer from social anxiety. I’d say that’s true 99 percent of the time. I think on average me who get lots of sex with lots of different women (so I’m excluding committed relationships) are worse guys than men who get no sex. I can get sex easily because I have very low social anxiety due to my work. I don’t find casual sex to …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:27 PM
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Guys who want lots of random hookups are shitty guys who are looking for shitty women. In the world of being shitty life is cutthroat. That being said some guys want relationships, but can only find random sex or unreasonable women. Women who want the six feet and six figures for example. It’s not an issue where one side bears no blame or fault. There’s a lot of nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:20 PM
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Well pick your targets. Women usually show interest in obvious ways
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:25 PM
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You just gotta eat it until someone thinks you’re hot. Women have strange tastes. Also work out
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:37 AM
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Interesting theory
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:36 AM
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Only read the tldr “Women have the same advantages on dating apps that they do in real life-- more options, more attention, the ability to be passive and still succeed, etc.” No they don’t. 1) Guys are a lot more selective about who they give their attention and approval to irl. They don’t approach every woman and they don’t hit on every woman in their social circles. This is because there’s a high social cost associated with doing this. (How high the cost is is subjective but it’s way higher th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:42 PM
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I think the rule of thumb on here is 'I dont like what that study said so it is obviously bullshit' When it comes to studies, pills don't matter, only confirmation bias prevails.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:19 PM
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I have noticed men doing that online, but never IRL. I have been told that all women disagree with me IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:14 PM
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It’s interesting that some women often pretend like they are spokeswomen for their sex. They say things like ‘I as a woman disagree with you’ like that settled an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:29 PM
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Its totally neutral. If you don't see that you have severe reading comprehension issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:08 AM
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This isn't gender specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:04 AM
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Huh, I’d think someone with a PHD would actually have something substantive to say. All you have done is make assumptions about where I get my information and tell me you have a phd. How do you have brain activity without a brain? You should think about things objectively instead of trying achieve a certain result. That’s actually a very big problem in academia.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 03:01 PM
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It is. See the FBI crime statistics. You’ll also need to take account what percentage of the population every race is. If you’re going to claim it’s based on policing just look at the murder and violent crime statistics. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-43 I’ll say it again, a higher association with violence based on race or sec. It’s not appropriate to stereotype people and treat that as dangerous just because of this association.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:59 PM
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Detectable brain activity. I’ll add I’d think someone with a ohs is capable of a more intelligent response than “the fuck?”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:54 AM
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What I said is empirically verifiable All you have to do is look at crime statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:06 AM
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“Slaughtering your child is of course a crime. Removing a clump of cells without a functioning brain is medical care. You can believe otherwise, but that's religion.” No it’s allowed as long as it inside the womb in many places. You are a clump of cells. The unborn have functioning brains at five weeks, have unique human dna, and are alive, there is no scientific reason for believing that a fetus is not a human. There are however practical reasons that people use to justify homicide. It’s not re…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:04 AM
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Statistically certain skin colors behave more violently than others. If you’re just going off of associations you are stuck with 1) racist conclusions or 2) intellectual dishonesty. Alternatively you can adopt a nuanced view of people and not treat them as a stereotype based on how some the bad apples of their group
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:14 PM
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Right to an abortion is highly contentious and I don’t agree that taking away the right to slaughter your child is a human rights violation. Rights to divorce would apply equally to both parities. I agree with the other two and have only seen some fringe influencers ever talk about removing the right to vote, no one in this sub that I’ve seen. If it is stated it’s pretty uncommon
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:11 PM
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I don’t think it’s bullshit at all. I don’t think I’m that attractive either and it happens to me all the time mostly from women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:09 PM
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I agree with what you’re describing. I don’t agree with hating men, being sexist or being racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:58 PM
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I think men like women want to have their cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:55 PM
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Lilith I disagree with almost everything you say, but you are 100 percent spot on here!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:37 PM
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The inability of a woman to orgasm during sex is most likely a sexual dysfunction like impotence. It doesn’t matter to me that I didn’t use the correct terminology. Don’t have sex with men or do, I don’t care. Only responding here cus you asked
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:53 PM
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lol ok, we can call it an oversight and not backtracking if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:51 PM
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I noticed you changed this from “men’s dicks aren’t enough” to “men’s dicks aren’t dry enough” I’m only commenting because I think that’s dishonest
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:43 PM
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“You would. We know this because of how you phrased the question and in Trump's America, who cares. So it’s not a good example.” No I wouldn’t it’s why I brought it up. “Proving the mind of a man who is incredibly unsafe and perfectly fits the profile of someone who would say the 1st quote.” You know you’re right the 20+ women who have touched my arm, back, or inner thigh without my consent and made me uncomfortable should definitely be sex offenders. They basically ruined my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:30 PM
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What human rights is he talking about? Be specific. Please describe what you think and why you think it. I read the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:27 PM
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I think generalizations work for all people and men speak differently about women when they aren’t around. We all know women in general hate it when men make generalizations about women. It’s a good way to make your wife/gf/female friend angry and it serves no purpose. I do see women making negative generalizations about men. #yesallmen Men are trash. We don’t need men etc. my point is that negative stereotypes go both ways. Positive neutral or accurate stereotypes don’t offend me. But if women …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:25 PM
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1) you or the person above you are assuming I’ve read the one post in this sub from before I even had a Reddit account (292 days ago). I’ve never seen anything like that posted in the last 2 months. It’s definitely an outlier, not something to base your opinion about all or most men on this whole sub on. 2) I fail to see how he’s questioning whether women should have basic human rights. What basic human rights does he say women shouldn’t have? What is your definition of basic human rights? Still…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:13 PM
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Very true. I think we agree that any ideology would probably do that if they interpret what you’re saying as being hostile
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:52 PM
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He said why should I support women’s lib, not “let’s take away [women’s] rights and access to Social services” because they won’t have sex with me. Those are two distinctly different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:52 PM
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I guess I have to take your word on that buddy. Maybe you should reread my post if you think you’re dunking on me. You clearly missed what I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:50 PM
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What human rights is he suggesting taking away?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:44 PM
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That’s pretty fucked up
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:43 PM
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I’m sorry that happened, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:41 PM
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Here’s an internet badass in his natural habitat calling people losers online.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:40 PM
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That’s definitely a fair point. Women have a more static value in society than men do in my opinion. Unfortunately you either have it or you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:39 PM
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I think if you disagree with people online they will be nasty towards you. It doesn’t matter who you disagree with. Pick the group you identify with most and start arguing with them. I’d bet money that you’ll get nasty comments from them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:36 PM
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Yea, that’s an accurate description of what I’ve seen here, but that happens in all forms of online debate, not just gendered debates. Maybe it would be more accurate to say people online hate those who disagree with them? At the very least I think they are expressing hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:34 PM
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Yea men are more on women’s team than women are on mens in my opinion. That’s not gonna make me stop calling out male BS
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:32 PM
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Fair. I see women saying things like ‘this whole sub hates women’ and ‘the men here want to take away women’s human rights’ What I’m seeing is men feeling like there’s a dating imbalance and blaming women for it. Right or wrong that’s not hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:30 PM
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I’ve never seen that. Please provide one of the supposed many examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:28 PM
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I’ve never seen that. Please provide one of the supposed many examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:28 PM
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So the same is true of men right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:27 PM
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I’m not attacking you. I meant the comment to be neutral. I’m sorry if it didn’t come across that way
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:27 PM
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No I haven’t. I find people who use descriptive words without concrete examples are often way off base. That’s what you’re doing here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:25 PM
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I’ve never seen anything like wanting to take away women’s rights and access to social services because they won’t date them. I agree that’s hatred Do you have an examples of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:56 PM
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen a post like that. What do you mean by basic human rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:45 PM
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Men or women? It seems like the feelings are mutual
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:43 PM
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Just a regular definition of the word that any English speaker would understand. Hate is an angry emotional disdain, a desire for bad things to happen to the person or group. If you don’t like my definition go to the dictionary’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:39 PM
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Women vetting men is the standard. In my experience a woman is gonna default treat you like a threat until you prove you’re not. I vet, but women do it more and more forcefully. I will almost always answer whatever question a woman asks me on a first date. After all, I have to prove that I’m not a creep. However women seem to dodge questions that they think I won’t like the answer to. If a woman is dodging my question I can press the issue, assume the answer is bad, or ignore it. Generally press…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:09 PM
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I’m seeing lots of reasonable posts today. I would like it if more women gamed but I don’t want gaming to change fundamentally
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:06 PM
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"Does that give women the right to generalize no, but is their hate understandable yes. " Would you say the same about a racist white person who got victimized by black people growing up? I doubt you would and I think you are infantilizing women. They can take responsibility for their hateful attitudes even if they were wronged. The reason they choose not to is because we live in a culture where women can do no wrong. "I myself thought that because women report SA more and men underreported SA i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:44 PM
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Can confirm that was my point
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:08 PM
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Just choose one man and call it good
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:48 AM
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Duly noted
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:08 AM
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Clearly you just need to work on your reading comprehension. Reread my comment and if you have anything substantive to say I’ll respond. If you just want to sling mud it can stop at your reply to this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:08 AM
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I agree but a lot of people don’t seem to get it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:56 AM
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Yea kind of exactly what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:53 AM
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Also called 'I. AM IMPOTENT'
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:54 PM
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The takeaway is stop seeking sympathy. As a man youre never going to get it. IF you don't make something good happen it is never going to happen. It is at the end of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:51 PM
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femicide sounds basically made up unless you're in a muslim majority country.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:49 PM
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People definitely care about domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:48 PM
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"Women have an equally bitter pill to swallow — most men don’t like you, only what you provide to them, particularly sex" Sounds like a personal problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:45 PM
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I have seen mothers help out their sons.. I think almost anyone who has spent a lot time around mothers and sons has.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:44 PM
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If you can't orgasm it is your fault. You don't seem men blaming women for their impotence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:43 PM
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"Yes, women without children don't have male relatives; friends; or neighbors. The only way we can possibly relate to or care about males is if we create them" There is something special about a bond a mother has with her children. Mothers of boys are the only women who seem to care men's issues. "This is male solipsism projected onto women, btw. " It is female solipism. Just look at the comments by women. Lots of not giving a shit. Just because you havent identified the issue doesnt mean it doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:23 PM
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I agree with you, but in practice this means being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:31 PM
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Well I think the expectation in relationships is that men need to prove themselves and women don’t need to prove shit
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:35 PM
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Your comments are way too long I’m confident you can communicate these ideas with less of a word salad. I don’t care enough about your opinion to read that novella
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:34 PM
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No. I never said that you said that. I think you said that as a way of not having to think about the issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:31 PM
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Uhhh that’s what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:39 PM
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They aren’t contradictory statements. All you’ve done is taken about 80 percent of fragment b of a sentence and taken it out of context. Bringing something to the table is a phenomenon that only affects men. It’s about what the man provides. Even asking a woman something like that is seen as feminine by a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:27 PM
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The vast majority of women responding here have said. ‘So what?’ Thanks for proving me right
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:25 PM
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Nobody including women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:22 PM
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It doesn’t matter where it came from. During COVID, I imagine people were doing that because they could get away with it, not because they have animosity toward women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:20 PM
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Well that’s a hot take. I’m gonna need to see some serious evidence to believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:19 PM
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I agree but it doesn’t change the fact that I’m disposable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:18 PM
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Context matters. You are picking statements out and isolating them from their context. That isn’t even a complete sentence of what I said. For added context I also said: “Men have no inherent value in society and are judged only what they produce and provide. Women in contrast have inherent value.” I already explained what I meant by “bringing something to the table” in an earlier comment in this thread and you ignored it. Please read that comment first a plain and ordinary understanding of what…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:14 AM
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Yea I was typing fast. Men have no inherent value. Meaning they are only (or primarily) value by what they produce not who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:03 AM
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I don’t know why you’re asking me that question. It seems like half of the critical or insulting (like this one you just made) comments come from people who don’t understand my point and invent facts. What I said was “A woman will always ask what you bring to the table, even if she brings nothing, because men are the only ones who are expected to bring something to the relationship.” I wasn’t intending to say that men don’t ever expect anything from relationships. What I was saying is that women…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:54 AM
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You seem like the perfect example of black pill. The vast majority of your comment is addressing things I didn’t say and inventing facts. You’re clearly an angry person. I have a reading comprehension test for you. In 1-2 sentences write the main point of my post in a way that I would agree with it. If you can do that I’ll believe you understood my argument and aren’t just ranting and raving.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:51 AM
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I care about them somewhat. Believe it or not one of the aims of this post is to help men realize something beneficial to themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:18 AM
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I pointed that out because women with sons are a lot more empathetic to men’s issues. Women without children have no concept of what a man goes through. I’m not asking for sympathy and I don’t expect it. The point of my post is that no man ever should.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:06 AM
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I’m in the process
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:02 AM
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Sure. The truth is always helpful. Men need to stop looking for sympathy that is never going to come. EDIT I did say men have no INHERENT value in society. That’s an important adjective and the context further states what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:01 AM
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Fixed the typo. No im not saying women bring absolutely nothing to the relationship, but often it is nothing beyond what’s expected in an ordinary relationship. Companionship, sex, remembering birthdays etc. I think when people ask “what do you bring to the table” it’s almost always women asking about what men are going to provide for them outside of the ordinary duties of a relationship. I don’t think lesbians make this evaluation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:00 AM
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If it’s sad it’s because it’s the way the world is. I’m not saying it should be this way, it is this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:56 AM
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Because men are not sympathetic. If you’re a single man who suffers you do it alone
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:52 AM
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Not every word people wrote is intended to be literal. If someone says “I slept like a baby” do you think they woke up crying three times in the night? Have you ever heard the expression “it’s raining cats ad dogs” Honestly I think you’re trolling. Stop being obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:50 AM
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I don’t know how you got that out of my post. You’re engaging in fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:46 AM
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Im not going to help you but if you have problems I hope you get better. I’m not going to say things like that”good” or “it’s not bad enough” or ‘females need to be lonelier’ I’m not going to try and make you feel like shit because you have a problem .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:42 AM
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This is it. OG red pill is red pill. Nouveau red pill is incel bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:40 AM
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There’s something about women that inspires sympathy. If I saw a woman getting attacked my instinct would be to intervene. If it was a man my instinct would be the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:35 AM
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I gravitate towards groups of people that no one (not 100 percent literal) cares about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:33 AM
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A lot of men on here want to get the inherent institutional sympathy that women get. It’s never going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:32 AM
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I bet no one has said those words in here
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:20 AM
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It is about dating advice that women give.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:56 AM
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Here’s so good advice. Stop giving a fuck what women tell you and put yourself out there. Your success rate will probably be two percent
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:53 PM
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It is fair to say that he leaves some of this up to inference. I assumed she was going to single events or speed dating and that there are at least average guys at the events. I think that's a reasonable assumption. He describes her appearance as overweight, unkept, and low effort. I expect there were guys who met that description as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:37 PM
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Ugly woman doesnt want ugly man is the point of this post. It's clear that your missing the point. OP pointed out a very common and obvious problem with women today and you somehow found a way to make it about how men are bad or something. This is why I am a passport bro. Women aren't like this in other countries. In the US, UK, and Canada, women are delusional and can't take constructive criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:36 PM
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Isn’t it obvious? I think I can answer on his behalf because it’s so obvious. She isn’t good looking and either needs to adjust her appearance or lower her standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:38 PM
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Pretty sure you’re right and the definition of sexual assault is so broad that I’m surprised that it’s not 100 percent of women (and men)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:31 PM
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“Men have always been more women centered than women have been male centered, it's just that everything that has to do with being women centered is expected and encouraged by society” This hasn’t always been the case. The opposite used to be true in the 80s and 90s. I think the reality is that we need each other and we are moving towards detachment instead of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:45 AM
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All of those guys you mentioned are shitty people, but I don’t see that as red pill. Red pill is primarily about being stoic, accepting reality, bettering yourself, and not accepting shit from women/feminism in a society that only holds straight white men accountable. Tough truths and action. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:31 AM
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So men can’t reject people now. Putting a heterosexual male on this thing with another male is wrong in itself. Do you not see the problem with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:49 PM
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I’d take yo a step further and say men shouldn’t take dating advice from women at all. Nothing a woman has ever said has helped me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:45 PM
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The friend one is a place where women out men and often use the man’s romantic interest to manipulate him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:44 PM
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Women like guys who give them an adequate amount of attention but appear to not be that interested. Too much attention and interest is bad and will lead to rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:59 AM
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It’s totally true
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:26 AM
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"It's a chopped MALE epidemic" I havent been paying attention to men, but I do compare men and women and women in America are way worse. I'm agnostic about whether men are chopped, but I stand by what I said. "It is a loophole. Loopholes typically should be closed" Try and stop us honey.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:43 PM
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No it is because the women is behaving poorly biologically speaking. It suggests she has low self-esteem and does not know how to take care of herself or her kids. Your view is basically ignoring the whole of biological behaviorism in favor of one simple idea that is easy to apply. Biologically women have an imperative to find a man to take care of her and her kids. These women are having sex with men that leave them. Therefore they are failing at a crucial aspect of passing on their genes. Thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:49 PM
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It is because American women are significantly fatter and therefore uglier than most other women in the world. Now why does this need to stop?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:44 PM
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But they can still have kids and it’s not nearly as risky
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:26 PM
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Have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:23 PM
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Sure it's semantics but the whole point is that women arent using the correct words. It is a lot like Netflix and Chill. Women want to hook up but dont want to say that they want to hook up. Women have a problem communicating what they actually want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:57 PM
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I just took them at their word and it turned out to not be true. When you call someone a friend it has a specific meaning that is not what you are describing. Having a social circle in common doesn't make someone your friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:09 PM
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Still doesn’t reach the level of being honest in my opinion. With that being said all of my best relationships happened the way you’re describing. It’s just not the same thing as being friends first.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:44 PM
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But what it doesn’t mean is actually being friends so it is a lie
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:41 PM
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It’s dishonest to say that’s a friendship
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:40 PM
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Basically act fast or it’s never gonna happen. It doesn’t sound like you and your boyfriend were actually friends
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:40 PM
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Woman can have kids at 40 but the chances are a lot lower and the chances of birth defects skyrockets. It’s basically incredibly rare and risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:37 PM
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Thanks for telling me. As soon as you said it I knew it was true. Still sometimes I’m shocked by how dishonest women in the US are about their intentions even though I’ve seen things like this a 100 times before. In the future I’m just gonna assume everything women say is bullshit unless I know her really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:30 AM
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I think alot of dudes are only friends with girls so they can slide in if/when things go south. EDIT: my opinion is that is a total bitch move.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:49 AM
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I have heard a lot of women say they want to meet someone by "being friends first". I've always thought that was strange and I agree with you. Have you ever developed feelings for a friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:47 AM
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I wouldn't have kids at 60 but I would at 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:44 AM
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True if you are just looking for companionship age matters a lot less. I think women have trouble with this concept because men's fertility doesn't really drop off until about 60.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:19 PM
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I think its actually the same issue for both sides. Nobody wants to take responsibility for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:41 PM
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Honestly I have a hard time believing that people really say this. If women want to have kids then they should ideally do it before 30 and definitely do it before 35. I want to have kids so I want to date and marry women under 30. Otherwise its a matter of dating economics. When you are young women can date someone older or someone their own age. When women get older they probably need to look more to older guys, but its not a hard and fast rule. I don't think women expire but certain dreams do …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:38 PM
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First, I think men getting angry at women for not being attracted to them is a very un-red pill thing to do. Red pill is all about taking control of your life and doing what you can to change the things you can control. A lot of incels/black pill seem to be claiming to be red pill but basically are MGTOW and whiny. I think attraction isn’t necessarily a choice but women have inflated perceptions of themselves in the US. Women should be more realistic, but also I think women become more realistic…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:08 PM
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It is though. It’s a biphobic preference. Since you say otherwise then give me a non discriminatory reason why a straight or hi woman would have this preference? Also you have the constitutional right to be biphobic. Saying women should “have the same constitutional rights” is just disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:01 PM
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I guess so, but the rest of it is on point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:02 PM
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biphobia disproportionately affects men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:26 PM
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Because it doesn’t affect straight male behavior. The whole point of the movement is to make men more desirable to women. Red pill doesn’t claim to be a vehicle for equality. Caveat: trp wants to make men more desirable to women while also maintaining self respect
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:00 AM
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This is why I stopped putting effort into making arguments here. Almost no one is seriously considering what you say. You are spot on and I dont even think women are wrong for discriminating against bisexual men. It is 100 percent hypocritical for feminists. Despite that fact I agree with the practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:37 AM
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Feminists wouldn’t discuss it because it’s a form of gender equality that disadvantages women. Feminism doesn’t extend equality to anything that women find uncomfortable or challenges women’s beliefs. Women discriminating against bisexual men is not something a feminist would ever discuss even though it’s hypocritical. That’s the point of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:32 AM
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Amen brother
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:26 AM
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Thanks. I usually see (probably mentally ill) (usually witchcraft practitioner) bisexual women use that term but Ive never asked before. I’ve always assumed it applied to me tho
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:52 PM
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What’s a terp?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:46 PM
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I think it’s not that they can’t find people but that their dating marketability is a lot lower because a lot of guys don’t want to date them. Guys I see dating single moms are ALL doing better than they would be if the woman didn’t have kids. I think women are more pragmatic when they lower dating marketability. I don’t date single moms as a general rule, but I’d probably break the rule if she were intoxicatingly attractive and down to earth. This reasoning doesn’t apply to low SES people
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:44 PM
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No she just likes shy guys. I’m not loud or cocky but I’m not shy either
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:38 PM
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Um, no that doesn't discuss cheating at all. If you contend it does can you quote the actual text not some AI screenshot? "Analyses of specific attachment styles revealed that secure romantic attachment was normative in 79% of cultures and that preoccupied romantic attachment was particularly prevalent in East Asian cultures. Finally, the romantic attachment profiles of individual nations were correlated with sociocultural indicators in ways that supported evolutionary theories of romantic attac…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:06 PM
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I’m pretty sure whatever you’re going to send me is based on assumptions that men are underreporting and that it’s estimating the percentage. I’m not sure that men do underreport, but I’d be willing to be that women underreport more than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:53 PM
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Not a source. That doesn’t stand for your proposition that 56 percent of married men cheat either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:43 PM
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Prove it. That’s not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:24 PM
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I’m thinking the issue is that nobody is going to check all your boxes right away. However the connection can grow over time and you can have a very meaningful and valuable connection with someone who isn’t perfect or doesn’t check all your boxes. Love grows. In all things, the perfect is the enemy to the good. You should be happy with a good person. You shouldn’t wait for a perfect person. Just because it worked out for you doesn’t mean it’s a good practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:46 PM
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You have a very warped perception of men. Men cheat Men aren’t active fathers Men are rapists Men play games Men choose everything that is wrong with the world I can only interpret this as you saying men generally do these things or most men do these things. That’s just not true. I bet you think almost all women are innocent victims that do nothing wrong. That’s also just not true
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:30 PM
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People are internally limited in having casual sex and won’t do it sober (women more than men). If you need to be impaired to do something you probably shouldn’t do that thing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:59 PM
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So much for feminism is about equality. I’m glad someone is being honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:14 PM
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When do did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:23 PM
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Progressives don’t want to have kids. Lots of women want to have sex with conservative men. Since progressives don’t reproduce and women do in fact have sex with conservative men, I predict that it will not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:21 PM
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You know I’m kind of in the middle of the road of those two categories. One time I was really into a girl and I felt like there was chemistry. She rejected me for a super skinny soft spoken guy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:43 PM
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Congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:57 AM
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That’s interesting. I think most people who identify as red pill irl are probably socially awkward and not successful. I identify as red pill in this context because I think it aligns most with my beliefs. I could be a promiscuous degenerate if I wanted, I tried it before when I was a 27 year old virgin. I felt insecure because I hadn’t had sex and there is a lot of cultural messaging tying men’s value to sexual success. I slept with 4 different women in about 2 months. It’s a decision I regret …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 08:04 PM
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You’re greatly exaggerating the dangers associated with pregnancy. Compare pregnancy to driving.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:57 PM
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I think you just have an irrational disdain for men I’ve never had a man start creaming at me because of something I said, that I thought was innocuous. Women have done that multiple times. Women seem to get really upset when I say women do X. I’ve never seen a man get upset at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:53 PM
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You’re not a clear thinker or you’re not an effective communicator. Those things aren’t logically related.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:15 PM
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Oh yea? I don’t think that’s true. In my experience women are the ones who can’t control their emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:14 PM
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Red pill preaches stoicism not anger
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 05:44 PM
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My initial thoughts are that this is turning into a lot more writing than I want to engage in. A lot of your arguments are similar arguments people make when they say there is no such thing as a selfless act. The motivation for ‘selfless acts ‘ is an act of the will . Since you are doing something you must be deriving some benefit from that thing. My response is that this is a semantics argument and something doesn’t become selfish because there is some benefit. Selfishness is being self centere…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:24 PM
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First I’ll need you to explain how women not wanting kids is the same thing as men being short. That makes no sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:16 PM
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No. That doesn't make any sense. The vast majority of people who don't want kids don't want them for selfish reasons. Having kids is a good thing. People usually avoid this for material comforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:52 AM
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It is generally selfish to not want kids. This is because most people's reason for not wanting kids are selfish. They are usually things like not wanting the responsibility, wanting more money, wanting more time to travel, not liking kids, etc. All of these motivations are self-seeking. On its own its ok to be self-seeking sometimes, but having kids is an inherent good on many levels. First, without kids the human race cannot continue. Second, caring for kids is a catalyst for a lot of character…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:50 AM
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If you have sex virgins and only want to marry a virgin then you are an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 02:56 AM
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No. I believe many women don’t want children. I think something is wrong with them. They are either selfish or indoctrinated but I think they legit don’t want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 12:34 AM
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Whatever you say buttercup
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:26 PM
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I’m gonna stick with my original point thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:03 PM
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This kind of thinking comes from fat sexually frustrated misandrists. You’re probably not getting any anyways so your solution will be ineffective
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:57 PM
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Pretty sure most married people report having less sex once they get married. Even if that isn’t true it definitely is the perception most men have in my experience. Seems pretty irrational to get married if all you want is sex. You’ll likely have more sex if you just stay in a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:07 PM
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“• ⁠They want empathy, but make excuses why they have no empathy for others. • ⁠They want people to cater to them while not catering to others. • ⁠They whine about loneliness while not wanting to cultivate social skills mor a social life. • ⁠They think explaining why they act a certain way is an excuse to keep acting that way. • ⁠They cry about being cheated but never want to actually establish relationships. • ⁠They want validation, but give people no reason to validate them.” This is not sex s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:02 PM
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I’ve never heard of that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:55 PM
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The car market is pretty fucked right now. The analogy extends to dating too
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 08:00 AM
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So get a Kia or better yet a Toyota. Cars are like women actually (in some respects). The really expensive cars aren't worth the money. You will get a hell of a lot more value from a reliable Camry than you will with a Ferrari. Sure nobody will gawk at you driving a Camry, but it does the same job and it debatably does it better. The maintenance is much lower and the Camry is more reliable. It's not as fun or as sexy as a Ferrari but dollar for dollar it is a better vehicle. I don't know this fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:00 AM
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How do women get men to approach them if they arent also selling themselves? It's not a shop, it is a dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 06:56 AM
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As a man dating apps don’t reflect reality. Whatever you are gettin on dating app, add 1-2 and that’s what you would get irl. The reality is dating apps are mostly men. That means women will be inundated with options and men will have few options. In addition, so few men actually meet women in person today. If you make that effort you have a huge advantage. Personally women aren’t always into me when I meet them right away. However when I spend even an hour with a woman I can see her attraction …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:05 AM
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Nope. Women date people who they interact with more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 03:16 AM
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I think most men would go younger and most women would pick someone similarly aged
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 12:14 AM
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Interesting. Their explanation of the data is similar to mine. “We suggest that higher quality individuals spend more time in age-homogenous settings at ages when marriages most often form. They spend more years in school and are more likely to attend high-quality post-secondary schools with age-homogenous student populations. When they enter the workforce, they are often in jobs with high upward mobility, so that other individuals who share their same job description are similarly-aged. In cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 12:11 AM
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When did I say that? It’s both
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:59 PM
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Yea it’s by choice, what is your point? Younger people are primarily around younger people because of the way our society is structured
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:42 PM
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A product of familiarity
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:40 PM
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Women never get rejected, it’s always “mutual” or they find a way to tell themselves they are rejecting you. Women have a way of never getting rejected, at least in their own mind. Personally I also avoid rejecting women if at all possible. If I’m not interested I just leave it ambiguous and stop pursuing. Every time I’ve overtly rejected a woman she gets really upset and then says she’s not interested in me. I think a lot of these women get curbed into fuck buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:33 PM
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The statistics can be explained by exposure I think. Younger women spend more time with younger men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:58 PM
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It’s pre selection and also the effect on the man. He’s not looking for a woman so he is seen as less attainable. Also, men are more confident and chill. These traits make men more attractive. I’ve noticed women will never admit to being competitive or wanting what they can’t have, but they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:43 PM
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Physically speaking women start drop off after 25. There are other reasons to date someone but looks only go down with age for the vast majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:28 PM
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It is stupid. People with a ton of options also have way higher standards. It is a product of economics. Also people with a ton of options are not necessarily amoral pieces of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:25 PM
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Lol I didnt consider people came here for pvp, but it is so true. I do my absolute best not to get upset about anything. Sometimes I think that upsets people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:19 PM
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‘Just live my life to hurt women cus they slighted me on the internet’ How about no This is a really bad idea. No one should support this. It’s literally terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:37 PM
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I also want to add that I wouldn't necessarily remove myself. I might bump into them again. Getting bumped into is just a cost associated with riding the bus. It is going to happen whether you want it to or not. You have to give up your expectation of not being bumped into in order to ride in a crowded bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:03 PM
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The thing you aren't considering is that you put someone in that position. You created the situation where someone would be inside your body and wouldn't be able to remove themselves. The baby never made that choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:33 PM
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I dont agree. If I ride a crowded bus and bump into someone who does not consent to getting bumped into I have violated that person's bodily autonomy. I think that is still innocent conduct.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:18 PM
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You ignored almost all of the points I made. You did not address: You haven't presented any situation that would justify you killing someone who did nothing wrong where the reason to kill that person arose only from your choices. Women who kill their babies after consensual sex a) made the choice that created their babies b) knew about the risks associated with that choice, including the loss of bodily autonomy, c) created the situation where her baby would be dependent on her, and d) the baby d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:15 PM
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Simulating birth pains serves no practical purpose. It causes pain with no benefit. It risks life without being involved in the process of creating it. If me taking on pain meant my wife wouldnt have to endure as much then I might do it, but otherwise its a pointless exercise. If I get punched in the face really hard and get my jawbone broken then I would not want that to happen to everyone else just so they can know what kind of pain I went through for six months. "I bet a lot more men would . …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:58 PM
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I think you know the answer to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:17 PM
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"Prior to birth, a fetus has no independent existence. If it did have an independent existence, the question of abortion would be moot, as the fetus could vacate the mother’s body without harm. Because it can’t, it lacks an independent existence until birth. During that period of dependency, the mother does not lose the right to make choices about her own body, regardless of that dependency." Prior to birth your child exists and it is an independent human being. Therefore he or she has an indepe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:15 PM
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“A fetus does have an independent existence apart from the mother.” I already stated the reasons that this is true, the baby unique dna, is alive, and is human. It is an independent living being. A woman does not have the right to kill her child just because it’s attached to her umbilical cord. The reason is that she chose to take the risk that put her baby there. Therefore she’s responsible for it. I don’t see how “forced birth” which really is just a prohibition on slaughter is worse than comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:29 PM
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“If men want equality reproductive responsibility. . . “ I don’t see your reasoning here. How does cutting yourself for no reason other than to cause pain and risk the life of your child give you greater responsibly? “They are happy to let pregnancy be the sixth leading cause of death for women aged 18-35” What’s the alternative exactly? I’m pretty sure this figure includes abortions (if it’s accurate) I’m not really pro financial abortion but it’s consistent with an abortionist view imo I’m rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:18 PM
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I think what you fail to understand is that a fetus is a helpless human being. The baby is alive Is human Has unique dna “Bodily autonomy” doesn’t justify slaughtering another human. You have bodily autonomy when you decide to take a risk that could create life. In your own words “Both men and women owe equal obligations of care to any people who inter into a condition of helplessness as a result of their actions” I agree, this includes the unborn. Women who choose to have sex and then get pregn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:01 PM
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I just got in trouble for not challenging debate posts and I’m not 100 percent sure what you stand for here, but I’ll share my opinion. As someone who has hit the gym after not doing it a while I’ve noticed that women will be more sexually attracted to you if you have a muscular form. The amount of women I met that just want to sleep with me has gone up a lot when I am consistent in the gym. However women don’t give nearly as much weight to the gym in relationships. They like guys who are confid…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:22 PM
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Both of your points are not really addressing the substance of the argument. The argument is that if women have the right to opt out of being a parent then men should as well. Women can kill their child and that is 100 percent their choice. The man has no say in it whatsoever legally speaking. However the man has the abide by the woman’s choice to carry the child to term. In order to be consistent the man should also have the choice to opt out. I don’t agree with this since I’m pro-life but that…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:16 PM
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With his coworkers?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 11:35 PM
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I’ve had my mind changed on some things. Mostly I think people in this forum are hostile and closed minded
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:42 PM
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If by “high value man” you mean douchebags with no morality, then yea I agree. Everybody has the opportunity to cheat not just “high value men”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:40 PM
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I don’t think they understand what life is like when you can have sex all the time when they say that. Also I think you’re way over generalizing. There’s a false stereotype out there that most men wouldn’t be willing or have sex with most women if the opportunity presented itself. That’s just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:51 PM
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Most men wouldn’t do this. Even less women would
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:20 PM
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Yea, that’s a very common sentiment. OP assumed that men and women approach level with a callous and dark sense of capitalistic greed. That’s just not how people behave
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:18 PM
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What’s the source to the contrary? Not sharing is basically the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:15 PM
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The 1-10 scale isn’t really objective. There’s an elements of objectivity but one persons five might be another persons 7 or 3
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:14 PM
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This isn’t incoherent at all, but it is based on problematic factual claims and I think you aren’t seeing things from a woman’s perspective. ‘Self-improvement narratives are largely myths’ (red pill) This is true for some people. There are people who lack a baseline level of social skills. For these people there is probably not much they can do to improve that. In the same way, some people can’t walk, some people have muscular dystrophy etc. still the vast majority of men can improve themselves …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 07:43 PM
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Well assuming those guys are being straight with you they don’t represent men in general. I showed you a data set showing that men aged 20-50 say 20-22 is the most attractive age for women. Do you have any reason to doubt the data? Unless you have a really good reason you are substituting your perception for systematically gathered data contradicting you. As for picking out a woman’s age, obviously I wouldn’t get it right all of the time but I’ve never been wrong as far as I know. I might think …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:39 PM
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TBF I think this is a pretty red pill thing to say. I don't think cooking is the ideal example though. Try sex instead. Sex is a wife privilege. Cooking is a courtship ritual. EDIT -- 'we can fuck, but I am not gonna cook for you, I am saving that til marriage.'
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:44 PM
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"Can I ask how old you are?" I am in my 30s. My ideal age for a woman is 23. If you are talking about strictly physical I would say it's 21. "The older men in my life would disagree with you." I assume you are referring to this "I’m usually physically attracted to 18 year old women, but when I start talking to them I lose attraction." or this "I think the vast majority of all men agree that women are most attractive at ages 21-23." I am not sure they would. A lot of men (really just people) refr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:59 PM
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18 year olds are adults (men and women). I use girl and woman interchangeably when referring to adults. No there’s not a big difference between a difference between a 17 year old and an 18 year old. You have to draw a line somewhere. I don’t know what makes an 18 year old more qualified to vote than a 17 year old. I’m usually physically attracted to 18 year old women, but when I start talking to them I lose attraction. For me, it’s hard to tell the difference between 18 year olds and 23 year old…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:51 PM
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First, I didn’t say it was rude I said ‘even if it was rude’ That statement actually means I don’t think it is rude. But if it were rude, having a preference for tall guys is worse because it’s not changeable. Women can stop being fat men can’t stop being short. It doesn’t prove that I pathologize women in any way
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:51 PM
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Not what I said. Work on your reading comprehension. Stop making assumptions that don’t logically follow from my statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:05 PM
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I didn’t say I don’t do basic hygiene. I said that these things are comparable in dating market value to paying or not paying for the date. Can you read?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:00 PM
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Isn’t it obvious? You don’t have to have basic hygiene no one is forcing it. However, imagine what would happen if you didn’t? Nobody would go out with you. It’s clearly comparable to paying for dates. If you don’t do it no one will go out with you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:53 PM
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How many times have you posted about this? Why don’t you ever respond to my questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:50 PM
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How many times have you posted about that situationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:44 PM
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Saying you don’t date fat women is just expressing a preference. Even if saying you don’t date fat women is a rude thing to say. Saying you don’t date short guys is worse. You can stop being fat but you can’t grow eight inches.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:43 PM
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Just a situation where you keep bringing this up and complaining about it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:39 PM
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My main point was that I don’t care Sounds like they were regularly hooking up for months. I don’t think they just made eye contact. Who knows what they actually said to each other. Clearly the guy got his feelings hurt. Clearly she feels guilty about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:05 AM
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Women do more because they want to do more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:26 AM
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"Explaining why you didn't feel the need to establish your relationship is not excuse to feel cheated when your situationship dates/fucks other men." Stop posting about this situationship on reddit. I don't care that you have no empathy for a guy who had a connection with you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:21 AM
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People, men and women, often use the word girl to refer to a woman. Have you ever heard of "girl's night" or "girly girls" who are adults?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:08 AM
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Anytime I say I dont date fat girls it gets downvoted faster than a rat up a drain pipe. Women hate it when men are open about their preferences. In contrast statements like 'must be this tall to ride' are completely socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:06 AM
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I second this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:44 AM
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Yea! Like what do women even do to where they would need to be held accountable? It seems like something that probably never happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:06 PM
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What I usually see is women saying things like "I am on team girl" or "I always take the woman's side" My guess is basically never unless it has to do with mothering.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:05 PM
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Interestingly I had no interest in the one who may have been bantering. In retrospect I should’ve used that as an excuse to leave immediately. I was actually really into the other one, the lady who insulted me. We had some actual chemistry. She was definitely very nervous and I actually asked her about why she asked me if I was a serial killer. She watched a lot of true crime and hadn’t been on dating apps much. She said something like, serial killers are likely to use dating apps so if I’m goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:20 PM
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At least in one case it was serious for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:00 PM
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I don’t think it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:00 PM
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It happened to me twice in a row. Out of the over 50 women 2 have asked me that. It is a pretty insulting thing to say and when I pushed back on it they pretended like it was normal. "That is hilarious." Is that your typical response to men when they get insulted?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:28 PM
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That’s true. The reality is that what women say or imply has very little bearing on what they actually believe or want. Women will say they want whatever is socially acceptable to In general. You can get a better idea of what a woman actually wants when you interact with her. If she is a good person and says she values kindness then she’s probably telling the truth. If she is a self centered diva she’s probably lying. A lot of these problems are internet problems. You can’t easily tell what kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:22 PM
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I’d only ask that question after a girl asked me if I was a serial killer. It’s kind of rude to ask imo
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:32 PM
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Degens like each other. I think that’s the point a lot of my fellow red pills are missing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:21 PM
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I agree with you, but don’t ignore the other side of the coin. An ugly rich woman probably ain’t going to do well on the dating market. Men prefer hot low character women over high character unattractive women. Men vote on female behavior and our votes have in part led us to this shitty culture we find ourselves in where women are beyond reproach and everyone is a 10. Women like confident and cocky guys and men like hot girls. One thing I like about red pill is that it’s realistic about both men…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:20 PM
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That rant shows you fundamentally don’t understand what an illustration is and aren’t willing to listen to what I’m saying. It’s completely off base. You are responding to what you think I said nor what I actually said
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 01:30 PM
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"Back when men and women needed each other" We still do need each other. Hateful elements in our society don't want us to realize that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:56 AM
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The problem is that people are using dating apps for a model of how all dating works. Most women aren't on dating apps. The women who are on dating apps are in my opinion lower quality than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:53 AM
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and what are you doing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:51 AM
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"women are all attracted to the same 10% of men, women" It is true on dating apps, but it shouldn't be extrapolated to every sphere of dating. Everything else you said I also disagree with completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:51 AM
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"They are upset that very conventionally attractive women typically don’t want to date them " That's true. I chose the red pill tag because I think it aligns most closely with my actual values. Not because I buy into Andrew Tate or am obsessed with concepts like hypergamy. Hypergamy is a thing, but its one of many factors that affects women's dating decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:48 AM
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"You're saying you support the redpill as a rebellion against a nursery rhyme" Mam its just an illustration! Men and boys (women and girls too) are told that girls and women are perfect angels who can do no wrong. This is not true. A lot of men take it to heart. A lot of women also take it to heart. Women never own criticisms. Men do all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:46 AM
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"Most men are attracted to the average woman and most women are not attracted to the average man." I think this is true in the context of dating apps. I just dont believe that most women are as into looks as most men are. When they are evaluating someone based almost entirely on looks (like in dating apps) they are a lot more stringent than men are. I think women are actually more likely to go for a guy they dont find attractive than a guy is to do the same. I also think attraction is a lot more…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:41 AM
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Not I!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:36 AM
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But see: men would rather date a hottie who is a total bitch over a supportive kind woman who is fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:32 AM
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Women get turned on by violence. It is animalistic. The less traditional she is the more likely she is to want to be handled very roughly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:30 AM
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"He immediately lashes out and claims, "I don't want to hit"." He lashes out? Seriously. She says if I get a strike, I will let you have sex with me. He says I dont want to have sex with you. How the fuck is that lashing out? Men arent obligated to have sex with women just because they want to and are cute. What was he supposed to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 10:46 PM
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Would you say a woman came off as cold for not rejecting someone's sexual advances in the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 10:45 PM
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Show me an example https://np.reddit.com/r/thepassportbros/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 10:37 PM
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IMO women (and men) are attracted to people with similar morals. Who you are interested in says a lot about you. If a girl goes for an asshole she's probably a bitch. If a so called 'nice guy' is upset about that he is probably just a weak asshole. That guy is just an asshole who is too weak to act in accordance with his assholish desires. I have heard really bitchy girls say things like "that guy was too nice, it's boring" "I like assholes". Girls who say these things aren't worth your time, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 10:36 PM
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I have never seen anyone say they believe poor women make better wives. What I have seen people say is that they are not americanized. They say people from other countries make better wives and are easier to date because of culture. If I am wrong about this then why haven't I seen anything like what you're talking about. I have never read anything like that in my own research. No one has ever shown me an example of men admitting to wanting to exploit women and preying on them because they are po…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:59 PM
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I don’t have problems finding women who want me. I have problems finding women who want me that I also want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:04 PM
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I don’t know what the proportions are. Do you? I think you are missing my point. You are stereotyping passport bros based on rumors and maybe a few examples. Honestly I think you’re just speculating about them being exploiters. A passport bros is just someone who travels to a place with a different culture to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:57 PM
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Can you answer my question? You are totally missing my point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:02 AM
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No. I think you guys don’t understand what people want. Pretty much anyone seeking a relationship wants genuine connection with a real person. They want the struggle that comes with that. I think the main difference between red, purple, and blue is how we should best get there. I believe men and women are inherently different and serve different roles with equal value. Even though society has changed a lot and resisted this natural trend, gender roles are still evident unless someone is actively…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:33 AM
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The confirmation bias is strong with this one No I don’t care what happened on a playground. Did you know someone got shot in my city today over a mistaken identity? Do you care about the loss of someone’s life more than the use of a slur?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:25 AM
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Go ahead and cherry pick quotes from my reply and ignore the rest. You have to interpret that statement in context to understand what I was trying to communicate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:22 AM
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That’s not a fair representation of what I said at all. I don’t own that statement. Honestly bad faith misrepresentations like that make me feel like I’m wasting my time talking to you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:19 AM
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I think it’s awful but it doesn’t feel worth of my attention. Do I know this woman or this kid? No. We both know that you can’t be concerned about all of the world’s problems. That would lead to a lot of mental health issues. The best anyone can do is worry about themselves and the people in front of them. Do I care about the people victimized by the war in Ukraine? Not really. I know what’s happening to them is awful but it’s way outside of any area that I could do anything to help someone. No …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:17 AM
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It’s still racist to yell slurs at kids but no one cares anymore because they get called racist for the most innocuous things. Yes objectively the word still has meaning. But when the word is most often used to refer to innocuous things that’s what people start associating it with. I feel like you’re just upset because the word racist doesn’t have as much bite as it used to. Powerful words need to be used in moderation to maintain their power
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:08 AM
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Grab your passport bro
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:59 AM
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Tldr The point is that if you cry wolf eventually help will stop coming. If you cry racist/sexist enough people will stop caring whether or not they are racist or sexist. By some definitions of the term every white person is racist and there’s nothing they can do to change that. If that’s true then why should I care if someone calls me a racist? What do they even mean? I had a conversation with someone who said “Trumps a racist”. This person also believes all white people are racist and this per…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:56 AM
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Is my dream world to kidnap and brainwash a woman and hold her in a VR simulator against her will? . . . . . . . . . No. The fact that you’re even asking this question shows that you are out of touch with reality. Next question is also no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 12:03 AM
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My value comes from God not my perceived value on the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:45 PM
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You have zero examples. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:28 PM
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Show me where passport bros call western women worthless holes. I dont believe they do. https://np.reddit.com/r/thepassportbros/s/eIpLPR3Y1D
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:25 PM
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How is it different? Something that is worthless actually has greater value than trash because trash takes work to remove. You self-identify as radical. I never used that term. The fact that you don’t understand that proves my point entirely
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:23 PM
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Is the term worthless hole (a term I’ve never seen used btw) any worse than calling someone trash? Passport bros don’t usually take advantage of poor women. You’re just making assumptions based on stories. What you’re doing is similar to generalizing all men because conmen exist
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:55 PM
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I’m not aware of any examples of what you’re describing I think people are just making assumptions. If there are examples of passport bros claiming to exploit women then id love to see it, but I can’t find something that doesn’t exist. It seems to me that women don’t like the movement because they are outsourcing the dating market and they are making all sorts of assumptions about men who have rejected them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:40 PM
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There is a third category. Guys who deliberately want to date foreign women who aren't assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:45 AM
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I've seen them, It is interesting I actually matched with a passport sister on a dating app and we bonded over it. Unfortunately it didnt work out because I am not gonna agree to buy a SAHM a 100k+ car. We both agreed that the US dating culture is shit
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:42 AM
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'The way some (of Group X) talk about the people they date, its clear that the whole movement is about exploitation.'
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:30 AM
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Sure, why is that a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:30 AM
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'Some guys who do this thing admit to exploitation so all of them are guilty of exploitation' I have met western women who admit to exploiting men. It doesn't mean all western women exploit men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:28 AM
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"They know, they just don't want to say it because the answer is reprehensible. They want the equivalent of a modern day slave and they are too self-centered to think about what that means for the other person who has to be that slave." I have known one person who probably feels this way. Overall I think its an extreme opinion about men. Most guys want commitment, love, and attraction regardless of if they want traditional gender roles or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:23 AM
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I had to look up what 4b is. It sounds like MGTOW. I only know about MGTOW because I had a friend who got depressed about his lack of success after he broke up with his long term gf. He is now happily married. I hope things like 4b and MGTOW only last until people find the right person for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:18 AM
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Interesting take. You might be right, but I see both groups as passport bros. Maybe the perception is based on your particular echo chamber, idk.(and also mine)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:15 AM
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You well adjusted women you . . . Have a nice day. I don’t want to bore you with my “insecure terminally-online bullshit” or “bad faith bullshit”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:18 PM
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You could just like not comment and go touch grass or something. Call this "bad faith" if you want. I would think you just want to move on instead of engaging in this trite topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:52 PM
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I think the men in alot of those countries are worse than american men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:46 PM
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"Look, i would personally rather spend my life by myself than in a relationship with someone who doesn't value me." Me too. The issue for me is that I want someone with similar values. I would rather spend my life by myself then with someone who doesnt have the same set of core values that I do. I am fairly traditional and religious. The women I meet in the United States are not. Most people I know with traditional values got married in their early twenties. I am past that point. Now my relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:45 PM
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I’m new here. I just wanted to know. Sue me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:47 PM
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I don’t have an argument against your statement I just wanted to see if you were being consistent on the way you applied the term hate. Sure (some) passport bros hate western women but (some) western women hate passport bros. It’s reciprocal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:40 PM
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You’re consistent! That’s what I think someone with your perspective should say.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:29 PM
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Fair criticisms. I see passport bros and men looking to go somewhere where they have more money and want a different (better) dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:26 PM
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I’m interpreting this as a few bad apples spoil the bunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:09 PM
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You said these men hate women because they "shit on western women" Do you think women who "shit on western men" hate those men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:55 PM
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I disagree, but I can only speak for myself and those I know who have done something similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:42 PM
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I think you know I was not talking about people preying on children. Why dont you respond to the question I was actually asking instead of bringing up some random inflammatory shit into the mix. If pedophilia is your only problem with passport bros then: Pedophiles aren't what I meant by passport bro as I dont consider them passport bros I consider them child predators. I hate pedophiles who travel for child exposition and so does everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:41 PM
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Do you think women who shit on men hate them though? Can you answer that question?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:38 PM
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What you are describing is a trend but its not a universal rule. Married men, on average make 50 percent more than the women they end up with. This suggests that women place a greater weight on finances than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:34 PM
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That does sound like a bad situation. However, that scenario is really just making a lot of assumptions. Most foreigners speak some English. People usually learn to communicate before getting married. Things could very easily end up another way where the woman waits until she gets her green card, legally takes whatever money she can, and files for divorce. The person you are dating could be a POS. It can be harder to tell if there is a language barrier. I wouldnt assume that everyone wanting to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:32 PM
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That sums up my perspective very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:28 PM
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I dont think passport bros are necessarily undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:26 PM
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The manosphere bullshit is basically an equal and opposite reaction to feminazi bullshit. Still I dont expect women to like it so that is a fair criticism. If men dont strategize and plan then romance will probably never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:25 PM
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Yea. Personally I think the whole dating culture is fucked. Women think men are trash. Men think women are trash. By and large constructive criticism is rare and if it does happen nobody wants to listen. IMHO western women are very difficult and its perpetuated in part by the behavior of western men. I would rather go somewhere else then try and deal with the tsunami of negativity that is dating in the United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:23 PM
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Isn't that exactly what women are saying? Nobody came here and disagreed with any of the things I see women saying online. Its basically that (western) men are trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:19 PM
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I am not a fan of exploitation either. Passport bros seem fine to me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:18 PM
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Western women are just as critical of men as passport bros are of women. Do you think western women hate men when they criticize them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:17 PM
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I agree this is the same thing as a passport bro
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:15 PM
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That doesn’t mean women aren’t attracted to guys with money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:07 PM
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Hey if you have actual evidence that I’m wrong I’d love to see it!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:36 PM
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I’m pretty sure they do say that. Maybe it’s worth considering that there are better and worse elements in the passport bro community, just like anywhere else. If a guy lies to someone and makes a bunch of false promises about what he wants to get laid that’s bad. If he’s honest about what he wants, either in word or deed, then who cares. They are adults. Decision to have sex are complicated, but financial provision is definitely a factor. Women who hook up are more inclined to sleep with dudes …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:36 PM
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What are you saying exactly? Do you think poor women are incapable of making decisions for themselves just because they’ve are poorer? Does that fact that they are poor mean they can’t give consent? Should there be income restrictions on dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:33 PM
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I mean they’d just assuming the worst about people’s motives. I know men and women who have married foreigners. They all seem to think other countries have better dating cultures
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:26 PM
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I think the appeal is that it’s cheap to live there and there are higher quality women in their dating market
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:24 PM
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Well it’s just my experience. I’m pretty sure research supports that conclusion but I’m not willing to do a deep dive into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:24 PM
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You’re just assuming it’s exploitative. Having more money than someone doesn’t take away consent. Poor people and rich people can date without it being non consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:22 PM
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Yea that’s what I was thinking. Someone else said that they shit on American women, which is true so that’s another reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:20 PM
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Why do you think it’s exploitative? Just because they’ve got more money? I think women in Thailand or Argentina are capable of making decisions about who they want to sleep with. PDF Files are abhorrent and I don’t consider them passport bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:18 PM
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I guess I don’t see the difference between traveling to find love organically and going somewhere where you think you’ve got better chances. It’s obvious that women are attracted to guys with money. IMO it’s on par with a mans attraction to looks. I think about it like this. In the US if some lower middle class gal hooked up with some mid ultra rich guy it’s about the same as a middle class American hooking up with a woman from Colombia. As long as you aren’t making any promises I just don’t see…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:16 PM
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Why do you assume it’s exploitation? I assume adults can decide who they want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:09 PM
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I think the obvious response to this is that the times have changed. Should I act as if there are traditional gender roles or not? Men approaching women is traditional. Women waiting to be approached is traditional. Men paying for dates is traditional. Women taking care of the kids is traditional. Women being home makers is traditional. We all know which of these roles modern women prefer and which they don’t. Modern women want the benefits of traditional gender roles without any of the costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:46 PM
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If you can’t represent what someone else is saying correctly then don’t even bother debating
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:39 PM
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She should have smiled too. Three seconds of eye contact is not sufficiently clear. Also a lot of men don't pick up on cues that are sufficiently clear because they have a low social awareness. Its a complex equation. I will approach a woman if I find her attractive, I think she looks like a kind person, and I have enough courage or playfulness in the moment to go do it. If my vibe check comes back that the woman is vapid or mean then I'm not gonna approach her even if she is super hot and proba…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:42 PM
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You are ignoring a well established and generally accepted social norm. No you dont HAVE to pay for dates as a man, but if you don't then your chances of getting a second date are almost zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:33 PM
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Gonna have to disagree with you there. I believe in traditional gender roles. Men should be chivalrous and treat women like ladies. Women should act like ladies. I am anti-hook up culture (this was caused by feminism and fuckboys working together). I think feminism has sold women a bill of goods and that women would be happier if they were stay at home moms. I believe that dating today sucks because men and women have negative views toward each other that are reinforced in spaces like this. I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:28 PM
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Strongly disagree there. It’s a really rude thing to ask someone. Maybe you’re autistic for not understanding why it’s rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 11:37 AM
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A lot of people don’t understand that statistic but you are spot on! Initiating divorce doesn’t mean you are the deciding factor ending the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:22 AM
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I think they were just watching too much too crime. I’m not autistic Even if someone is odd, it’s a strange thing to say
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:08 AM
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I agree, but I also think women are pretty entitled. I think they expect men to convince them that the man is worth their time. Women have consistently asked me really insulting questions on dates and acted like it was a completely normal thing to say. Women are also rude. Once I had two consecutive dates with two different women and they both asked me if I was a serial killer, I pushed back and said that its really unlikely that I would be a serial killer and that I think thats an insulting thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:11 PM
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Sure, but having had that experience myself I think people should just move on when it happens. Getting groped is uncomfortable, but it isnt the end of the world. You're reaction to it can make it worse than it actually is. The same goes for being touch starved. If you are touch starved go get a massage, go workout, hug your friends, and dont obsess about it. Accept that is is happening to you, do what you can, and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:59 PM
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I answered this question both your questions yes people are responsible for their choices, but you have a responsibility to your neighbor as well. Your neighbor also has a responsibility toward you. Instead of just focusing on myself, I could try and make the environment we all live in a better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:55 PM
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its trending down even excluding that set and its trending down at a faster rate than male happiness. Notably both sexes are trending downward.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:47 PM
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It is data from 1972 to 2021
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:21 PM
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It's not a lie, but I would say 1: Women often dont accurately state what they want. I can't tell you how many times a woman has said "not looking for hook ups" on her dating profile despite that fact that she hits people up for hookups on dating apps. Even if it is accurate some women dont represent other women. A sorority girl is going to want something different then your gender studies major as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:46 PM
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That is not all it shows, it shows a downward trend of female happiness as stated in the article. It also shows that female happiness is decreasing relative to male happiness as stated in the article.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:43 PM
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All words are inherently subjective, when I used the word that was what I was trying to communicate. I wasn’t as precise as I could have been but I explained what I meant
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:15 PM
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I’m not necessarily trying to win. I don’t see how filing divorce papers means that you are forcing divorce on someone. If a divorce is mutual someone still has to file the paperwork. Men make more money than their spouses and possibly work more. Maybe women file for divorce 70 percent of the time because they have more free time. Nobody knows why women file more than men and it doesn’t necessarily mean they want the divorce more than men —- it doesn’t mean anything. If you disagree tell me why …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:13 PM
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The study you listed does not show that single women are happier than single men it also did not measurehappiness or mental health “One of the most widely examined well-being indicators is life satisfaction, defined as the subjective assessment of one’s overall quality of life (Shin & Johnson, 1978), which is often used synonymously with well-being (Diener et al., 1999). Some existing work has examined life satisfaction differences across gender for singles. For example, both Stronge et al. (201…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:11 PM
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Discontent to me is similar to being ungrateful or complaining a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:02 PM
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1) Springer contradicts that claim. I’m not aware of any evidence that men underreport mental health issues. 2) self reporting which is where your study in single women comes from. If it’s good for the goose it’s good for the gander. 3) will read, when I’ve read a study about that the main metric seemed to be that single women reported more satisfaction with their relationship status, which is not the same thing as happiness 4) see above. Filing divorce papers doesn’t mean much to me. Most divor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:59 PM
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I think women are more prone to being discontent than men are. I know women initiate divorces more but to me that stat doesn’t mean much. All that stat says is that women are just the ones who file the paperwork. That’s contrary to most red pill arguments, I know
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:56 PM
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“We now find strong evidence that males have higher levels of both happiness and life satisfaction in recent years even before the onset of the pandemic. As in the past, women continue to have worse mental health.” From Springer, in the abstract. They also present evidence that women have always had worse mental health outcomes. Women historically report higher happiness but also higher anxiety and depression. However even before the pandemic happiness was lower than male happiness EDIT which is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:47 PM
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I know this is a restatement of something I’ve said elsewhere. Both studies show female happiness trending negatively. The first study doesn’t not prove that female unhappiness is due to more responsibilities that’s just a proposed suggestion. People just assume women do more work around the house, but nobody has ever measured that and it is unmeasurable. The second study shows a huge dip in happiness at the same time as the pandemics. That’s pretty obvious causation to me. Still female happines…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:42 PM
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Every time I get on here I see people with warped views of the opposite sex. To me dating is difficult. Men have to go through the effort to convince a woman to date them. Women take the position ‘why should I date you’ or ‘impress me’. With that being said, if I were dating someone for months, even if I didn’t feel like we were official, I d be upset if the woman I was dating was fucking other guys. I think most women would upset in that situation too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:15 PM
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Do you know what a generalization is?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 07:06 PM
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No it’s a generalization. Do you know the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:32 PM
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I find that hard to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:31 PM
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People are antagonizing each other. If you take positions that embitter people you share responsibility for doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:28 PM
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Also check this out it’s recent and seems to contradict your claim that women are only unhappy if they are married (or in a pandemic) https://ifstudies.org/report-brief/in-pursuit-marriage-motherhood-and-womens-well-being
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:25 PM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:20 PM
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So have misandrists
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:20 PM
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Technically true but I think you know that’s not what I was getting at I was speaking in broad generalities
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:18 PM
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I mean if you take away everything that makes people unhappy then they are happy. That’s obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:17 PM
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What I read in springer contradicts your claim that men underreport mental health issues
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:17 PM
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I’m ok. I’m not happy or unhappy and I don’t have any mental health issues and in my opinion that’s more important. I’d probably be happier if I weren’t a lawyer I think it says male happiness is down but up compared to women. Loneliness is up for everybody
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 04:45 PM
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See above or the graph I screenshotted
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:24 PM
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“Show me that women are unhappy when there is nothing making them unhappy” Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:05 PM
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Look at the entire graph. Look at the conclusions of both the authors. Do you have any data to the contrary. Both state that female happiness is declining as a trend. Both state that women have historically been happier than men (although it’s marginal). Both also state that women have historically and continue to be farting worse than men in mental health areas. The first article suggests that it could be due to home responsibilities but doesn’t have enough evidence to show that. The second art…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:02 PM
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In 2021
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:56 PM
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I’m happy for you, but they both do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:53 PM
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Both articles conclude that women have worse mental health outcomes. Both say female happiness is declining. I don’t have it handy but the loneliness epidemic affects women too, they are just less lonely than men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:43 PM
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At the same time that happiness is down financial satisfaction is up. I’ve satisfaction is won. Mental illness is up. I guess you’re just saying there’s nothing you can do about it and it’s all men’s fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:41 PM
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Well it’s the last data set I could find and you shouldn’t ignore that women have always reported worse mental health outcomes, but now they are also reporting more unhappiness. Both articles seem to conclude that female happiness is declining overall. The idea that women are happier than men, successful, and thriving, is a false narrative. Both men and women are struggling, both men and women are unhappy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:39 PM
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I’ve been groped without my consent a lot. It doesn’t bother me tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:30 PM
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There have always been (straight) women that didn’t like men. Now there are straight men that don’t like women. Is this what we call progress?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:28 PM
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Why do you think men neglect emotional growth? I don’t think that’s true at all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:27 PM
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Happiest of the group that is the unhappiest it has ever been
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:26 PM
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Personally I think women are less desirable than they were ten years ago. If they are less desirable and more strict then I should look elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:24 PM
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Will do, I don’t plan on conceding nitpicky points when I am speaking in generalities
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:37 AM
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That’s true but there is also such a thing as a collective responsibility. No person is an island
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:26 AM
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And I included the wrong article what an idiot I am!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:24 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:23 AM
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Here you go. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00148-024-00981-5 “We find that one part of the female happiness paradox is very robust: when answering questions about negative affect, women always and everywhere report higher levels of depression, stress, sadness, and anxiety, for example, than men. This is true across time, country, and across different metrics of negative affect. This is perhaps best illustrated by anxiety: women are consistently more anxious than men, both pre- and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:19 AM
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Yea I think that qualifies more as speculation. I should’ve just cited the raw data but I didn’t feel like looking it up. It’s worth considering that more women are unmarried and don’t have kids than ever before
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:08 AM
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You seem bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:08 AM
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100 percent
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:05 AM
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Well I cited the paper mainly for the data set. That’s mostly a hypothesis for the reason for women’s unhappiness. Consider that more women are single than ever before The title is referring to groups not individuals. Women as a group are generally unhappy. Men are too. I’m glad your happy but that wasn’t the point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:04 AM
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To be fair I think the article is speculative. The main reason I cited the article was that it cites the data set that I’m relying on
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:03 AM
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Couldn’t agree with you more. Both men and women are the least happy they’ve ever been since we’ve been keeping track of it. The loneliness epidemic is worse for men but it affects women too. I think the media doesn’t want to focus on how women are doing bad for a variety of narrative issues. Maybe just maybe we are all contributing to the problem. Maybe men and women shouldn’t estrange each other. We should seek to understand and empathize with each other. Sometimes men, as a group are assholes…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:16 AM
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In married couple men make 50 percent more. 50 percent more means 150 percent. If the woman makes 40k and the man makes 40k then he makes 100 percent of what she makes. 60k is 150 percent or 50 percent more
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:37 PM
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It is all ages. In my opinion, with people 40 and younger it is less acceptable to an American women to say that you want a stay at home wife than it is to say to a European women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:35 PM
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<image> Men earn 65k/90k in marriages on average. So, men's percentage of earnings is actually closer to 85 percent more than their wives' on average. Men had an additional income of 30k. 30k is 85% of 35k. 65k is 85% more than 35k.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:27 PM
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The philosopher of pessimism said something pessimistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:08 AM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 01:26 AM
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Traditional man here. I am against decriminalizing prostitution because it is bad for society and encourages promiscuous sex. I say this even though I think it would cut down on simps and stabilize the dating market. Sex is not some random act compelled by primal urges. It’s a deeply intimate emotional expression. I’ve heard people say sex is like a hand shake. If that’s true, how would you feel if someone shook your hand without your consent? Compare that to grape. The difference is obvious and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 01:25 AM
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I think you mean female happiness. Women are very unhappy right now
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 01:11 AM
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Nice guys are guys who act nice from a place of weakness. Niceness doesn’t get you far, but kindness will. Just my 2 cents
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 02:29 PM
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