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You haven't explained anything. Let us go back and have a look. So you’re saying the likelihood of violence by someone you spend 80% of your time with is higher than someone you spend .00008% of your time with? As I originally pointed out, that isn't what he's saying. Each stranger you meet increases your odds of you experiencing violence from a stranger, but the stats say that in even a lifetime of meeting strangers you are still more likely to experience violence from someone known to you. Do …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 03:05 AM
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Please explain it at a first grade level.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:47 AM
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So you originally put forward a comparison between men and women, with the implication being that women have more options because they can accept not having sex and that they compromise less than men, I'm questioning what you are basing this idea on, given the fact women have worse outcomes than men in both sex and romance. Let's look at your premise, women can live without sex more readily than men, they have more options than men and they are less willing to compromise than men, if we take thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:41 AM
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How often do you gamble on the safety and kindness of strangers? Are you sure that the dirtbag in the unlit alley will leave you alone if you walk by wearing a nice watch, or a set of perky breasts? I own a cottage in a tiny rural community, so basically never, I haven't even been within an hour of a dark alleyway, let alone walked by one, in years and I don't remember the last time I saw a dirtbag, but all of this is beside the point, yes there are reasons intimate partners are statistically mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:25 AM
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maybe that's why women have options and men don't. men and women both want sex, but women don't want sex enough to compromise on its quality. What are you basing this on? Women report less satisfaction with their romantic and sexual lives than men do, despite men having higher rates of singleness. Women initiate more break ups, experience more violence, physical as well as sexual, they are murdered more, in fact the biggest danger to women are the men they choose. If this is women exercising opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:03 AM
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So you’re saying the likelihood of violence by someone you spend 80% of your time with is higher than someone you spend .00008% of your time with? No, it's actually if you take every stranger you have met and ever will meet and compare them, as a group, to your intimate partner, you are more likely to be murdered by your intimate partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:19 AM
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What I'm challenging is the idea that it signals drive and ambition and that is why women are attracted to it. A trust fund kid with no drive or ambition is going to see the same benefit in attractiveness from their money as the guy who clawed himself out of poverty to the same level of wealth. The second guys drive and ambition can be attractive, but that is attractive alongside his wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:14 AM
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That ambition and drive Having money is significantly more correlated with where in the world and to what class you are born into than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:07 AM
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But most college-educated men are with college-educated men. It's all this woke agenda the students get fed these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:03 AM
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If that is the assumption, then she is asking would you prefer to be desirable or desirable and have commitment, no? To me, I read "prefer to be desirable over commitment" as a choice between either being desirable or having commitment. Her other comments make it clear that she believes men should view commitment from a women as more valuable than being sexually attractive to them. She appears to be someone who sees more value in having the status of "in a relationship" moreso than she see's val…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:58 PM
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One of the main things TRP preach about is status, a focus solely on lookes is Black Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:38 PM
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prefer to be desirable over having commitment? How is this even a question? What value is commitment from someone to whom you are not desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:37 PM
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most guys don't expect their partner to have all those requirements Most men know they'll die virgins if they don't compromise on physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:19 PM
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I never said "if I hold my breath" I said "if I stop breathing" this is why reading what you reply to is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:37 PM
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I don't need evidence to know if I stop breathing, I'll suffocate, just as I know that if a man doesn't initiate and escalate with women he'll live a life mostly, if not entierly, devoid of romantic and sexual intimacy. These are things you learn by living life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:09 PM
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Living in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:03 PM
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You don't need an unrealistic or naïve view of women to end up dissappointed by them, most people could be better. If you maintain self-respect, healthy boundaries and live an honest life you are head and shoulders above the majority of humanity and those three are not high bars to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:36 PM
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It's been a long time since more than a small handful of people on PPD knew what Red Pill is, most of what people here attribute to the Red Pill is Black Pill talking points.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:20 PM
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If you wont explain your perspective, you dont deserve to be understood. PPD in shambles
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:15 PM
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some women uphold The vast majority of women expect men to be the initiator. A man who never initiates and escalates is almost guaranteed to become celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:02 PM
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This is something women have figured out better than men What are you basing this on? Most studies show women have higher rates of depression, lower life satisfaction and are less fulfilled romantically and sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 12:29 PM
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It's not always unrequited, hence why I used the word assume. A guy who assumes a friend isn't interested in him and so hides his feelings, is in the friendzone regardless of if she would reciprocate or not. A guy who hangs around hoping she'll change her mind, is in the friendzone, a guy who accepts the rejection and doesn't expect her to change her mind, but continues being a good friend, while still harboring feelings for her, is in the friendzone, a woman who likes a guy, but assumes he isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:55 AM
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He’s going to keep orbiting and hovering while attempting to gaslight her and manipulate her, same as most of the men here who try to convince women that the men they are attracted to are bad and evil. The friendzone is when someone has feelings for a friend that they either know or assume are unrequited, you're just adding extra shit on as an excuse to get worked up about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:36 AM
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You'd think the concept of the friendzone would be the easiest thing for women to understand in these discussions as it's basicslly their modus operandi; hang around someone you have feelings for without ever vocalising it, hoping that they do something to make it obvious that they feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:26 AM
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I'm prerry sure most people aren't bodhisattvas, their desires aren't a choice. The friendzone has always just meant one person has feelings for a friend who doesn't share them. Classically the advice for "friendzoned" guys was to rip the bandaid off and ask her out, because typically the situation talked about is a man pining for a friend he's never let know how he feels. All the stuff about guys getting rejected and hanging on or the girl leading him on and using him for validation and so on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:22 AM
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People in the military can spend more than half the year deployed away from home, so people should question whether they want to date someone with a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:56 PM
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women shouldn't even bother getting education, school, jobs or hobbies Women should do those things for their own sake, they can also make it easier to be exposed to a higher socioeconomic class of man, but those men would choose a woman who fits the description Windmill gave, ("kind hearted, feminine, cooperative, in amazing shape, easy to get along with, low n, and whatever YOU would classify as an 8 out of 10") over an educated woman with a good career and loads of hobbies, who doesn't match …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:46 PM
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I just realized that I posted under your previous comment which was a mistake 👍 no problem
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:25 AM
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Let's say you desire to attract a beautiful and healthy, stunning woman who only has eyes for you and is loyal 100%. She's emotionally intelligent- secure and grounded in herself. You can tell her anything and she comforts you, and validates your feelings. You look forward to coming home after a long day, and she greets you with a hug, a kiss, and a delicious homemade meal. She appreciates all that you do, and motivates you to go out and work everyday. You have compatible libidos. If you have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:24 AM
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Then why post your diatribe in reply to my comment? Who is it for?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:13 AM
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Don't young women according to RP have way more opportunity to cheat? Young women do cheat more than young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:21 AM
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I'm not short, my parents dated in high school and got married at 18, had their first kid in their early 20s, neither of them are short and, judging from old photos, weren't plain. What I actually think is behind how she acts is a combination of her childhood and potentially having undiagnosed autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:18 AM
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Women are perhaps more willing to accept earning more than their man, if he makes up for it in other areas, but few prefer it and even fewer would accept a stay at home husband. The simple reality is, earning less than a specific woman makes if harder to date that specific woman. Women want to maintain gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:01 AM
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Why is the RP mentality never, the man tends to the home while the woman works full-time though? Women are very resistant to reversing gender roles. Men who don't fulfil their's, generally, end up alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 11:30 PM
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You are evidentally not reading my comments or simply not comprehending them, so lets end this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:55 PM
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I was going to point this out. Both my mother and older sisters had that attitude, it's outright deluded to believe women don't do this to boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:07 PM
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🤦‍♂️ the point isn't what you consider or how you feel about it, I'm trying to get you to see how a woman's actions may be perceived, trying to relate what men are saying to what women often say about men who don't do things like ask them out, go in for a kiss, physically escalate to sex etc. Women make assumptions about how interested a man is based on these sort of things, but can't seem to grasp that men also look at a woman's actions and make assumptions about how interested she is in him. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:18 PM
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Nothing in my comment describes an established relationship, it is exclusively talking about the establishment of one, but you've projected a relationship from what I've said and decided it would be unhealthy, the very same thing that the guys, who believe women are more attracted to men they sleep with more quickly, do. What you are describing isn't the norm Do you consider what is the norm to be a measure of worth? If so, most people will have more long term relationships than they will have m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:06 PM
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How would feel if a man said he wanted a relationship with you, but you had to ask him out on a date and he made no attempt to escalate to physical intimacy? Let's say he only engaged in physical intimacy after you either asked for it or physically escalated yourself. What about if we add in that you've seen him hit on women in bars, dance, makeout with them, maybe took them back to his place for a one night stand. What would your perception of how he feels about you be?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:33 AM
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Considering the things women overthink about when it comes to their own sexual attractiveness, I think how quickly and enthusiastically a woman is willing to engage in physical intimacy with a man is a pretty good gauge to go off. I mean, I never worried that much over how fast my now husband gave other girls presents This comparison only works if you have a transactional view of intimacy; the real equivalent for women is men initiating and physically escalating. Women very much assess how inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:14 AM
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I was actually joking, she could be a bit hard and was never good at showing emotion or dealing with ours, but she had a hard life and basically raised her younger siblings from her early/mid-teens, so I always understood why she was the way she was.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:15 PM
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I can answer for my mother: No
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:03 PM
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I can't imagine women want the sort of men that need to go to singles events and perhaps that goes the other way as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 04:28 PM
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I'd be willing to bet my house that not one person on PPD has ever read these sort of platitudes and changed their ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 03:11 AM
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Take the example of someone struggling with their math homework, let's say they can't grasp whatever concept they are being assessed on, what steps does "put in work and do what you need to do" advise they take? Perhaps a better way to understand the difference between actionable and unactionable advice is, imagine your boss tells you that you are falling short and that you need to work harder, that is unactionable feedback. What a good manager would do is tell them where they are falling short …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 02:55 AM
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What do you consider actionable about anything you've said? You wrote an allegory that concluded with "Either do the work or don’t" and followed that up with a comment that included such insights as "we had to do what we had to do" and "so that’s what we did".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 02:34 AM
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I believe the point in a "debate" thread is to argue against the OPs claim; all you've done is agree with the claim, then give him platitudes and unactionable advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:41 AM
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I feel the need to ask, do you just get a kick out of commenting? Every comment you've made in this chain is just affirming what OP is saying and doesn't add anything to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 08:34 AM
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Yea but that paints a very different picture I like that what follows this basically backs up what you are trying to argue against.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:18 AM
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Is it though? You can rent it for less than $100 an hour, but most women seem happy to sell it, along with plenty more of themselves, for the ocassional bit of validation from a guy that barely respects them. Most guys approach women once a year or less, so they're not exactly out there fighting for access to it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:06 AM
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Gender roles are fairly ubiquitous and the vast majority of women expect the same basic behaviours and attitudes from men when it comes to initiating and escalating to sex; the "wide variety" is more like a choice of garnish, than an array of dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:51 PM
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💯 This is also why hookups are often framed as a "mistake" or something that "just happened", they want to deny what they visceral respond to because what they consciously believe they desire is opposed to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 10:42 AM
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it's one another crazy comparison and reddit opinion not based in reality I often feel like a lot of people on reddit present themselves, and the world, how they wish both things were, not how they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 10:10 AM
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PPD women have really jumped the shark now if they're arguing that heterosexual women are more demonised for their sexuality than homosexual men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 06:55 AM
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I think the real point of the "women approaching" conversation is to encourage women to shoot their shot with guys they have chemistry with, and who they think might also be interested, rather than dogmatically waiting for him to do it. Asking anyone out expecting it to make them fall for you is a fool's errand, you should be asking out people you think have already fallen for you. Most men don't approach most of the woman they are interested in either; whether or not a guy approaches isn't a me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:13 PM
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I think a big part of it is that women's main filter selects for male lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:24 AM
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Where are you guys hanging out? In mosques? I've not met any posmiscuous men that hadn't been in relationships with "respectable" women. Women can say they don't like players, but the reason those guys can sleep around is because they have what women want, most women, especially those under 30, don't dig that deep below the surface when they decide to get with a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:20 AM
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Yeah I suppose if you're happy to suck dick for coke, who am I to judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:11 AM
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The majority of people are not promiscuous, so you would expect most pairings to be between non-promiscuous men and women, but it also means that promiscuous people have plenty of non-promiscuous people to sift through when looking for a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:08 AM
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If the man in this scenario is not able to commit, why would he be looking for marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 08:14 PM
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That's not really something I've observed, all the promiscuous guys I've known have managed to have relationships with non-promiscuous women. The biggest player I've ever known had slept with nearly 100 women when I knew him in our early twenties and he got into a relationship with a woman that was a virgin when they got together, the relationship failed because of his job and having to work away a lot. Edit: I've also observed promiscuous women not having much trouble, except one who was very p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 08:13 PM
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they should keep their legs closed and avoid partying if they want a respectable man to marry them someday Is that true do you think? men should consider whether their actions and choices make them less appealing to the women they claim to want to marry Do you think men who sleep around have much issue finding commitment when they want it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:53 PM
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If a man spends his youth dating party girls, do you expect them to change his behavior and be loyal to a wife? This is probably a question women should be asking themselves, rather than directing it at a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 04:45 PM
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I've done my time on the sesh and I'd definitely say sucking dick for coke is quintessential degerenacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 04:38 PM
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I think if you were more honest with yourself as to why you viscerally react, we’d have a better discussion. What is there to say? Having no boundaries or letting people push and break them is something I find unattractive in a potential romantic partner. I also have the same reaction to people who don't have a spine in other contexts, such as at work. People like that become almost infantilised in my mind. Edit: I saw your other comment. I also find a casual attitude to sex and intimacy in gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 12:53 AM
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Yes, I understand that there are some people who waited until marriage for sex. I also understand INCELS haven’t even had the opportunity to make the mistake, which makes that point moot & funny. There are also people who only have sex in LTRs. Have you ever slept with a slut who didn’t care about you? No, I'm very selective with who I let into my life and don't have casual sex, by choice; I've had strangers (men and women) try and sleep with me. If so, you’re a hypocrite for thinking that women…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 12:27 AM
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Alongside, understanding that both men & women make mistakes, especially when they are young or desperate or both. I think people should also understand that there are people who didn't make naïve or desperate "mistakes" in romance and sex and they want to date people who match that. I can empathise with women who have fallen for fuckboys and understand how low self-worth can play a role, but I just find it ruins my attraction to them. Would you be comfortable, sharing the worst thing that you’v…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 12:15 AM
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The one who slept around
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:29 PM
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Definitely, cooking and cleaning up after yourself are basic life skills and caring for your children is the bare minimum of what should be expected from a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:04 PM
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I always felt like it would be a better look for women if they were only letting Chad treat them like shit, but the fact they let bums and losers do it makes them look worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:33 PM
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She's been doing this on and off for like half a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 05:46 PM
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What he describes isn't rare in the UK, my parents bought me alcohol for a New Years party when I was like 15. First time I ever got into a club was when I was 15 as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 05:14 PM
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Reserved isn't a good choice of word, sociosexuality is openness to casual sex and the people that have the most sex, and report the most satisfying sex life, are in long term committed relationships. I think the way we take promiscuity as being more sexually open or sex-positive is the crux of the issue, engagement in casual sex correlates more with less sexual satisfaction, lower IQ, lower self-esteem, poorer mental health and attachment issues, also a younger age of losing virginity and engag…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:48 AM
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And considering your logic “those women seem more available” then it’s safe to assume that if all the other guys started approaching women, they’d also chase that type first You could just as easily conclude they don't approach many woman because the one's that appear available don't appeal to them. you’re technically agreeing with what I said I'm not agreeing with you, you said "type of girl most men chase", I pointed out that most men don't chase any type of girl. The women you see getting cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:03 PM
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I can definitely see that’s precisely the type of girl most men chase I saw a stat once that said over 50% of young men approach women once a year or less, if at all. Most men and how they approach dating are invisible to the majority of women. The men who do chase with any sort of regularity to form a pattern are extremely rare; what you are seeing is a minority, chasing extroverted, outgoing women who advertise themselves, seem more available and are more likely to give them what they are look…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 07:30 PM
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Men fantasize about having a girlfriend, they want girls that other men want and other women are jealous of. Men don’t like to say it, but they chase after the “look at me” women I don't relate to this as I find things like posting selfies on social media or putting a lot of effort into makeup, clothes etc a bit of a turn off, the last thing I care about is what other men think as well, but from what I've seen of other men, I'm an outlier. Personally I think the biggest factor on whether a guy w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 06:21 PM
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The sort of wholesome family man you'd be compatible with likely isn't out there chasing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 06:12 PM
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The women that seem the most available are the most likely to get chased.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 06:08 PM
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Women want a story when they have sex, "one thing led to another" or "it just happened", as though you both got swept up in the moment. Making it known that it's preconceived kills the mood, despite the fact that for sex to happen, generally the man has to go into it somewhat deliberately/with a plan or routine in place; it only really "just happens" from the perspective of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:13 AM
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Answer the question, what are the other 3 that are "better" than the one I mentioned Who are you quoting? That's why there's nothing wrong with focusing on solving the worst of those issues How many people do you see arguing for FGM the way you see women justifying circumcising babies? You are backing up a woman that used aesthetics as an argument in support of it, how can you not see how problematic a lot of the rhetoric around circumcision is? It is as insane as arguing that we should be perfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:05 PM
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An I thought you were talking about male circumsicion I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. what are the other 3 non invasive FGM? Who has claimed the four type of FGM are non-invasive? I'm just pointing out you are focusing on the most extreme type of FGM, I imagine in an attempt to add weight to your comments. I don't understand if you are saying this as an argument other people say or as your own argument It was a rhetorical question, I don't live in a third world country so whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:48 PM
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I was responding to her saying: "FEMALE circumcision is meant so the woman doesn't get pleasure out of sex", that is the same reason circumcision became popular in the US, the fact it doesn't achieve the goal is beside the point. Sewing the vagina and removing the clit definitely has an impact on sex life There are 4 types of FGM, what you are talking about is the most extreme, type 4. How about we start performing routine labiaplasty? There are supposed benefits and men think it looks better. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:15 PM
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Part of the reason circumcision became popular in the US, outside of cultures that typicall practice it, was that it was believed to prevent masterbation and reduce sexual urges. It's a rare practice in developed countries, especially for other than medical or religious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:40 PM
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The way they talk about it makes it seem that there is a severe drought of men that are just basic and normal. Like, their bar is not high at all. They just want a man that has a full-time job; has a basic level of adult maturity and emotional stability; and is nice and pleasant to talk to Sngle men that meet these standards are not rare; these womens other, unsaid, standards (height, looks, expecting him to approach, escalate, whatever else they expect from men) are filtering these men out and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 05:51 PM
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Criminality and lower IQs correlate with more sexual partners for men; trusting women with eugenics would be a disaster for the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:48 PM
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How has a post advocating literal eugenics survived this long?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:41 PM
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If you didn't care you wouldn't feel the need to tell him you don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 06:16 PM
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