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I've found that the only one thing I had to work on was improving my personal lifestyle. I started doing things I like e.g. cycling. This got me in shape and out of the house and as a result my self-confidence started to lift. As I started getting more confident and started liking myself, others did too. From there it was a natural progression to becoming one stylish motherfucker and I have naturally become what /r/ would call alpha. I know how to have a good time, I know how to be classy and ho…
/r/seduction09/11/12 07:36 AM
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Great job dude. I think I need more friends like yours. So often I find myself on the fence about approaching and talk myself out of it and a large part of that is the condescending attitude of those I'm with toward a cold approach like "pfft, good luck with that. Watch him get shot down".
/r/seduction16/06/12 04:43 AM
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Ok, thanks. I actually didnt realise that subreddit existed. Generally I would have pulled the trigger by the third date at the absolute latest but given that she is not just some random that I don't mind ignoring me and the fact that she made it explicitly clear she wanted to take things very slowly so I made an exception. Maybe that was my mistake. Thanks for the info.
/r/seduction16/01/12 10:44 PM
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Massive congrats dude. I know exactly how awesome you're feeling right now, appreciate what you've got. Its just occurred to me this afternoon that I'm literally depressed by the combination of losing out on this one and a few other things going on. I might even create my own post in this /r/ for a little possible feedback since I can't figure out wtf happened.
/r/seduction15/01/12 08:30 AM
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Yes, I figured as much. They seem to think that confident socially capable = asshole.
/r/seduction04/08/11 01:48 PM
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A day in the life of a foreveralone beta FTFY. Seriously, it is possible to be a nice guy and talk to women you know?
/r/seduction04/08/11 01:00 AM
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What the fuck. I know that you're correct so this isn't a rage at you OP but seriously WTF is all this bs? If we don't word something in a particular fashion we get ignored? If we dare to offer them the privilege of deciding what to do next time that makes it ok to flatly ignore us and pretend none of it ever happened? Women are human beings too so whats this I don't even? Preemptive: No, not all women are like this but it can be strongly argued that as a general rule telling will yield better r…
/r/seduction06/04/11 04:14 AM
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Absolutely. I have a handful of close female friends that I get along with very well and we have a clear understanding that its friends and nothing more (mutual, not friendzoned against my will :p). When we go out drinking or whatever I wouldn't say I keep a close eye on them but I am generally aware of where they are. If guys are hitting on them I'll either keep my distance or maybe help him out too but sometimes you can just see that she is definitely uncomfortable and looking for an exit. Thi…
/r/seduction24/03/11 12:00 AM
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Correct. I've always seen the alpha side of PUA not so much as a necessity as an addition. You don't have to be but if you can pull it off in a genuine fashion then it will help you. Just know when to draw the line between alpha and arrogant. Alphas can still be nice guys... they just have a back bone and don't come across as feeble and delicate. Nobody, other guys included, want to talk to a quiet, mopey and feeble guy sitting in the corner. They want to talk to that happy and confident guy who…
/r/seduction03/03/11 04:28 AM
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Out of context you are correct; there can be only one alpha. In a PUA context though I think the term is used a little differently. To me it implies strength and dominance and to compete with another alpha for the "highest rank" in a social situation is unnecessary. In my opinion, if you feel you need to compete with every guy around you then you're already employing beta tactics. My best mate is equally alpha and we get along just fine. We don't have to compete with each other and neither of us…
/r/seduction03/03/11 04:22 AM
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Yeah, my interpretation of 'alpha' is knowing your positives and being ok with your negatives. A chronic beta is quiet and withdrawn due to their insecurities. "I feel so uncomfortable, I just know everyone is looking at my [insert weakness]" rather than simply not caring. Nobody is perfect and the sooner we accept that the better off we'll be. Its a learning curve I had to take to improve myself. I used to get self conscious if I was having a literal bad hair day and feel like everyone was look…
/r/seduction03/03/11 04:17 AM
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You're getting downvoted hard but I did exactly the same thing at the same line. Have a consolation upmoat.
/r/seduction08/02/11 07:25 AM
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I'm not homophobic at all. I have several homosexual friends, relax. It was said partly in jest but seriously, if I wore white jeans and a hot pink shirt you think I'd look straight?
/r/seduction09/11/10 11:00 PM
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This. I guess the places I tend to hang out would classify as "hipster" so wearing the type of clothes OP is talking about would just single you out as an idiot; it'd be like wearing a Tux' to a bowling alley :p That said I've recently gone about getting myself a new wardrobe. My clothes are form fitting (not spray-on, just a proper fit) and I guess you could say they are a (very) small step toward metro style in that my shorts are shorter, my shoes aren't the bulky skate-shoe type and my shirts…
/r/seduction09/11/10 05:25 AM
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You've heard of the famed "Drinks? Later?" text message and it's alleged success? Do it. I don't mean literally send that exact message lol. It depends on your personality of course but if you can pull it off you may want to try being a little more direct. Its how I generally deal with someone whos getting flaky. My text messages are notoriously short (if you want a conversation pick up the damn phone :p) and my personality lends itself to a bit of directness without seeming like I try too hard.…
/r/seduction27/10/10 06:02 AM
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I wouldn't say you need to hide what you do but at the same time you don't need to be dropping it early in conversation. If you are doing this, theres a good chance the reason they lose interest is because you're trying too hard. As an exaggeration, imagine a woman approaching you and opening with "Hi, I'm Sarah and I'm world famous modern architect" you'd roll your eyes and eject, right? While I'm sure nobody would actually do that in real life, you may be doing similar - albeit more realistic …
/r/seduction27/10/10 04:24 AM
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Sounds like you've done quite well for yourself. I think you may be over-analysing the situation a little though and you should definitely not be telling anyone that you love them this early on. It will only serve to make you appear weak and desperate and it will almost definitely freak her out. I'm no male chauvinist but if a woman told me that early on that she loved me there is no way I'd be seeing her again. do you think I did the right thing by pushing her off when she was going all over me…
/r/seduction27/10/10 04:08 AM
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react in such a way that communicates that I'm completely comfortable with what it is I'm and that's he's out of line. Thats a solid point that applies to everything in life. If you do whatever it is you're doing with confidence and genuinely don't care what others think about it then you can make it acceptable.
/r/seduction19/10/10 04:28 AM
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All but one of my friends are classic AFCs. They want women but don't do anything about it, as though they expect sitting with a group of guys at a table is how its going to happen. As condescending and negative as that comment sounds, it doesn't bother me but it also means they're of no help to me when it comes to improving my own ability. The one friend I do have that is fairly good with the ladies (in that respect I do take note of his actions, achieving his success would be awesome) and in t…
/r/seduction19/10/10 04:25 AM
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First off, dancing. Its taken me a long time to realise that the only people in a club that are taking any notice of your dancing are the ones who refuse to give it a go themselves... the unimportant Betas. Theres not really such a thing as "accpetable/not acceptable" dancing provided you're not doing anything rediculous (ie trying to break dance on a packed floor or flailing around like an idiot). The way I see it dancing in a club is meant to be fun, not a science. If you have a decent sense o…
/r/seduction18/10/10 07:10 AM
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I know this isn't what the thread is about and I'll make a more relevant comment in a minute, but just on this topic why not try it a couple of times and see how you go? I'm not trying to pressure you into it of course, it makes no difference to me. It does just seem a shame to have your brothers' poor management keep you from enjoying it a little more responsibly. This isn't a 'lol you don't drink' comment, just an honest question. People say you don't need alcohol to have fun and thats correct…
/r/seduction18/10/10 06:53 AM
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Its not a case of being 'inside my shell', I solved that problem a long time ago. Its just a case of not feeling the need to touch guys lol. I know that successful game is about more than just the woman but at the same time its expected that confident alphas demand a level of respect and personal space. I guess its just a natural part of that for me.
/r/seduction12/10/10 01:00 PM
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Not that what you're saying is wrong, but in alexryane's defence I'm the same. I just don't touch guys. No fist bumps, no hi 5's, no nudges, slaps on the back, nothing. This is exclusive to guys and made my transition with women more difficult but you can have one without the other.
/r/seduction12/10/10 04:42 AM
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I have the same issue but not with my hands. My issue is predominantly forehead and armpits. The reason that becomes an issue with initiating kino is simple - I look sweaty which is gross, not to mention it can also make me appear nervous but I don't let that part get to me. As for the arm pits, it limits my colour selection when it comes to buying shirts and I'm clearly hesitant to raise my arms. There are options available and from the advice I've received in the past going to a doctor is the …
/r/seduction29/09/10 07:22 AM
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I started off very similar to you only a matter of months ago and while I'm far from being a PUA I have improved significantly. The two best things I've done are improving social ability and self confidence. My confidence boosts have (controversially in this subreddit) come from many hours in the gym. I've lost weight, altered my physique in a major way and I know I look much better. Couple that with the fact that I set a difficult goal and am well on the way to achieving it and my confidence ha…
/r/seduction29/09/10 07:14 AM
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That sucks man. You did so well on the first night only to lose it all so quickly :( I learned my lesson about a month ago. I was out with a bunch of friends at 'the place to be' on a Sunday night. Live music, plenty of drinking and that night I had no intention of picking up. Since it was a Sunday session all but my closest friend had to go home since they had work the next day. Long story short we meet 2 women within about 5 minutes and I initiate conversation, kino and isolation but feeling t…
/r/seduction29/09/10 06:59 AM
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This. We talk so much about the alpha aspect here and being confident in our decisions etc but some people overlook the fact that sometimes, regardless of game, an apology really is necessary. Kudos for realising this.
/r/seduction29/09/10 06:55 AM
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I do the same thing if the conversation needs a lift. One thing I tend to do without thinking though which I think is a bit of a weak approach to it (but a natural one for me, hence it happening almost accidentally) is I tend to preface the question with "so, entertain me". Using your example: [Dull spot in convesation]... "ok so, entertain me. If you could go to any city in the world, where would you go and why?"
/r/seduction24/09/10 05:29 AM
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Its comforting to hear that I don't need to be in peak fitness to aquire women :) Like I said though, the only reason I'm working to improve my fitness is inner game - not to appear more physically attractive. Especially given my naturally broad frame I actually cover up a little now to avoid looking like a douchebag jock. The fact that I'm happy with myself is what makes me attractive, not the muscles.
/r/seduction22/09/10 11:14 PM
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You have no idea just how much I envy you :p 5 pounds in 6 months... If I don't keep a strict diet I can easily put on double that in a week. Occasionally I'll have a big weekend with mates - binge drinking and shit food for 2 days - and I'll come back weighing about 2kg (4.5lbs) more.
/r/seduction22/09/10 06:35 AM
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I agree completely. Aside from the many other positives that come from gym, it provides me with 5 hours every week of essentially distancing myself from the world. For that hour each weekday I'm focussed 100% on my workout and making sure my form is right. Forget the clock, forget work, forget problems with the ex. Nothing matters outside of that gym floor. That brief period of distancing myself from everything really helps me unwind and relax a little. The same goes for my cardio. I can just st…
/r/seduction22/09/10 06:31 AM
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I think what they're saying though, and to a point I agree, is that working out is helping to improve that confidence. I'll use myself as an example. I'm still in the process of getting myself into shape but I've come a long way. The fact that I alone have achieved these results is a confidence boost in itself. Aside from this I'm now happy with my own appearance which is a giant leap forward from the self-loathing AFC I was 18 months ago. If I can't like me, why should any woman? So, for me at …
/r/seduction22/09/10 06:24 AM
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You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. This just became my new "no excuses". So simple yet so obvious, thanks :)
/r/seduction15/09/10 12:10 AM
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Women get giggly and flustered just when I smile at them or start talking to them in line at the supermarket or anywhere else for that matter. I recently found this starting to happen for me too. Pretty awesome change huh? Congrats man, sounds like you're doing well.
/r/seduction14/09/10 08:02 AM
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This. Before taking interest in PUA I was exactly the same. Hunched shoulders, always looking down and if I almost walked into someone (walking around a corner or something) I even had a natural tendency to keep my head down and basically just look up at this with my eyes. Looking back I don't think I could have made myself look any more submissive. Now, with the help of gym and a few months of consciously correcting my posture, I naturally stand with shoulders back and walk with my head high an…
/r/seduction13/09/10 03:50 AM
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ArMcK's answer is exactly right. If you can get your approach down and be relatively comfortable doing it then the rest will naturally fall into place with practice. As far as meeting people goes it all comes down to what you enjoy doing. I'll use myself as an example. I spend a lot of time camping and 4WDing and love football but took a couple of years off playing to focus on my career. I reached a point kind of similar to you where the friends I had weren't the type I could go socialise with. …
/r/seduction09/09/10 04:03 AM
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Long term relationships, regardless of how good they are, inevitably reach a level of boredom. No matter how fun, spontaneous and otherwise perfect you may be as a partner, after a number of years (in my case 5) those attributes will get boring; after 5 years you will get bored with someone when you see them every day, regardless of who you are. Guys looking to pick up a woman in a long term relationship will always present themselves as being much better than they are (the same goes for all PUA…
/r/seduction08/09/10 11:07 PM
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Agreed. I've gone from a stereotypical 'nice guy' beta with no clue and no chance of picking up to a well educated alpha who is at the picky stage where he doesn't have to just take something if an opportunity pops up, he choses who he wants and goes after it. Thats a damn nice feeling and a complete turn around in just a couple of months. I have a long way to go but this subreddit has changed an important part of my life for the best. To see it go to waste because of some immature cross-subredd…
/r/seduction08/09/10 04:51 AM
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Thats bullshit and you know it. As someone who took a long time to recovery from an asshole like you, I sincerely wish you all the worst in life for the pain you cause others purely to benefit your pathetic self.
/r/seduction07/09/10 06:28 AM
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Serious question then: Have you ever been on the receiving end? Have you ever had some other asshole try hook in with your girl?
/r/seduction07/09/10 05:32 AM
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This. I find it hard to be happy for someone thats being "that asshole".
/r/seduction07/09/10 04:12 AM
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First off, congrats on making a positive step to solving your AA. Finding something that works for you is the hardest part. I'm finally at a stage where, after a few seconds of pumping myself up and using a bit of adrenaline to overcome the terror of the approach, I can do it pretty consistently. So I know how hard AA really can be :) You already said it yourself but I'll repeat it anyway - once you can do this with relative comfort you need to try do it sober. It will help you come across as mu…
/r/seduction05/09/10 11:39 PM
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This. I know for me personally I have a few different stages of drunkeness and they range from tipsy to "oh god hes throwing up blood and can't see, hospital time?". At no point in that scale (and unfortunately I've made my way to the latter end of it on several occasions) do you ever lose control of your thoughts and actions without being incapable of thought; if you still have motor control, vision and the ability to speak full sentences you have the ability to rationalize and recognise the di…
/r/seduction01/09/10 05:56 AM
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I've often wondered the same thing but I think the HB gives the number a little context for those less familiar. "So I opened an 8 and ...". I guess it doesn't take a genius in the context of the /r/ and post to figure out what an "8" is but still... I don't make the rules :)
/r/seduction31/08/10 11:43 PM
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I definitely agree. Since my confidence has increased a lot I've been noticing a definite change in the way women treat me literally everywhere I go. As an example I went with a HB9 female friend (DHV?) to watch a movie last night and while she waited I went and grabbed an insanely overpriced bottle of water. The cashier, maybe a HB7.5, was very dull and uninterested with the two guys in front of me but as soon as she glanced my way her attitude seemed to change completely and as she served me s…
/r/seduction31/08/10 11:40 PM
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Thats a bit of a difficult one to answer really because it depends on the person, the situation, how you look/act etc. The way I see it its about frequency and ease. If I see you around a lot and I always see you with another guy then that speaks volumes. If I approach you and don't have to work at all to get you home then I'm likely going to assume its a one-nighter. If I do have to work a bit for you but you seem keen then it could go either way and I'll wait and see. If you're making me wait …
/r/seduction31/08/10 04:18 AM
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I came here to post all of these points. Instead, I'll just upvote and add my support :) Working out has seen my physique improve heaps and has meant I also have a whole new wardrobe. Buying new clothes was a good excuse to get some style too so I now look better which means I have more confidence. Now, rather than women ignoring me I'm starting to draw their attention without even trying. Its a nice feeling. Looking better and feeling more confident makes you so much more attractive.
/r/seduction31/08/10 02:03 AM
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Thanks, nice to see someone understands where I'm coming from. I'm not really concerned about how it all went, I'm confident enough in myself to deal with these things without hassle. I'm just very new to the art and I'm always looking for ways to improve myself for future reference.
/r/seduction30/08/10 11:04 PM
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whoever is smashing her at the end of the night wins bahahaha love it. Its the first time I've heard that outside of my group of friends :p One thing I have realised from this thread is that, as you said, I just need to change my frame a bit in this situation. Rather than seeing it as submitting and allowing my friend to take her, I should be seeing it as rejecting her so she moves on to my friend as her second preference. We've never really discussed anything like that before but we do everythi…
/r/seduction30/08/10 11:01 PM
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I know but the cock block friend was impossible and really quite agressive about it. There was no distracting her when she decided it was time for her friend to leave. She'd literally push past me, grab her friend by the wrist and start walking.
/r/seduction30/08/10 10:55 PM
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I'm "that guy" who never forgets a face which can be an easy open. There are a lot of people that I'll see at one bar/club one week then at another the next. TL;DR: I see the same people around a lot. I don't want to be remembered as the douche with the nice friend. I could go that path as a last resort though.
/r/seduction30/08/10 07:04 AM
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You are right but at the same time not looking to open doesn't mean I should stop caring about these things. Its the same reason that I still went well groomed in good clothes. You never know what could happen on a night out. Put it this way, if my mate didn't call dibs I would have ended up with her. Sometimes genuine disinterest can be a good thing as long as you don't come across as arrogant/bored/boring at the same time.
/r/seduction30/08/10 06:49 AM
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Yeah the step back was a literal step out of the situation to avoid an uncomfortable transition from leaning on me to talking to him. I think it would have been weird for everyone involved if she was still maintaining such heavy kino (body against me, hands on arm/shoulder/waist) and him trying to talk to her. I also didn't want to encourage her since I was trying to push toward him. I didn't really see any option besides moving away those few inches as I introduced him. As for how I went to the…
/r/seduction30/08/10 05:59 AM
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Well actually I left the rest of the story out since it was irrelevant but with some persistence he was doing ok with her but was getting cock blocked by one of her friends. She was talking to me and everyone was happy, he comes back from the bar, she starts talking to him and the friend keeps literally dragging her away. NFI what the deal was there, maybe the friend liked my mate or something? Who knows. Also, when I say he was keen on her I mean keen to open. Nobody can know if they'll like so…
/r/seduction30/08/10 05:18 AM
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I could do that but honestly hes keen on her and its not like shes the only chick in the entire bar, nor was she a HB10.
/r/seduction30/08/10 04:18 AM
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Because they are the ones I am interested in and nobody likes a submissive weakling. In terms of general day to day stuff I don't care what people think of me at all, when it comes to pick-up though projected image can make a big difference. As I was explaining in a reply above - "I've just been trying to change the way I project myself lately since I used to come across as very shy and nervous even though I wasn't. I had a habit of fidgeting constantly and found myself always looking down at th…
/r/seduction30/08/10 04:14 AM
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Yeah I don't mind taking one for the team and I'm not put off playing wingman for a set because I know its not all the time. I was basically just looking for some way to deal with that situation of passing a chick on to my mate without coming across as submissive or defeated lol. As willdeletelater said though, I just need to change my frame. I was happy to pass on a HB7 that approached me after I put in 0 effort. Thats a positive not a negative.
/r/seduction30/08/10 04:11 AM
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It didn't really bother me as in upset me or change my attitude, I've just been trying to change the way I project myself lately since I used to come across as very shy and nervous even though I wasn't. I had a habit of fidgeting constantly and found myself always looking down at the ground/table. I guess this is just an extension of that. Like I said, I passed on her by choice and if it really came down to it I could have approached her within the first couple of minutes and it seems things wou…
/r/seduction30/08/10 03:49 AM
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I'm in exactly the same situation. Not completely over my AA but definitely improved over the past few months with seddit's help and some practice. Everything you listed as a reason for not approaching is 100% accurate for me as well. I'd expect these are the reasons for most people suffering AA. The only other thing I'd add to the list is a feeling of inadequacy; "I'm not good enough to interest her". Once I lost a lot of weight and replaced all my clothes I was able to change that inadequacy i…
/r/seduction30/08/10 03:43 AM
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Its not that I wing for him all the time or anything like that. Its purely a situational thing. If one of us opens a 2+ woman set then the other is automatically wingman, its not all planned out so we both have our fair share of it. My question is specific to this type of situation where hes keen on one specific HB and I have to step aside. I can't come up with any way to actually step aside without appearing very submissive. Submissive is not in my nature and its makes me visibly uncomfortable.
/r/seduction30/08/10 02:06 AM
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To me these types of comments are usually fishing for compliments and in PUA terms, handing out on-queue compliments is a pretty big DLV. I tend to use these prompts as a clear neg opportunity. "How do I look?" look her up and down "hmm, shame about the shoes". Its more about the delivery; keep it playful. The reason its a bit of a wuss test is simple. A beta guy working to impress a girl will be quick with the compliments and won't hesitate with a "18? Pfft no way, you look great" type of reply…
/r/seduction30/08/10 01:32 AM
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Yup. As someone who had real bad AA previously I still get slightly terrified on my approaches but often lean toward the situational comments as openers. Sometimes they're really lame and intentionally blatant excuses to get a conversation going but thats really all an opener is. Most recent example, I was out with a mate last night having a few drinks and there was a group of guys and chicks in front of us taking a bunch of photos and one HB8 with them that was sitting on a chair a few feet fro…
/r/seduction30/08/10 01:15 AM
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Demonstrate Homosexual Vehicle. (I'm sorry, it was just begging to be said)
/r/seduction26/08/10 06:50 AM
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Seems true enough. One thing to note though, feeling safe can also lead very quickly to the friend zone. I have one lady friend that enjoys hanging out with me because "feels completely safe and protected with [me]". This all developed when I was fresh out of a LTR so I was happy letting it go to the friend zone but just be aware that safe is not always a good thing.
/r/seduction26/08/10 02:01 AM
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This is a very good point. Thanks for the FR and info.
/r/seduction25/08/10 01:56 AM
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Oh really? I'd always wondered that. Sucks.
/r/seduction24/08/10 11:00 PM
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Why posts like this constantly get downvotes in this /r/ is beyond me... Sounds like a great first attempt!
/r/seduction24/08/10 05:19 AM
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lol I could think of worse ways to come up with a nickname. At least its not something homo like twinkle toes :p
/r/seduction13/08/10 04:53 AM
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I dunno, sounds a little... risky :p At this stage I have my shit together more remotely than you can imagine. Still dealing with the frustrating-as-hell AA. This weekend's plans are to get the hell over it. I guess time will tell.
/r/seduction13/08/10 01:31 AM
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Hawaii, LA, Anaheim and Vegas. Last time I was there I was only 18 :( it killed me to be of legal drinking age here then to go to Vegas and be 3 years too young haha. This time it'll all be different. Guess I'll really find out if Katy Perry is right about those California girls :p
/r/seduction12/08/10 11:06 PM
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As an Aussie heading to the US in December I hope this is correct :)
/r/seduction12/08/10 12:19 AM
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This is precisely the disgusting attitude I was talking about.
/r/seduction11/08/10 11:12 PM
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So its... not a boyfriend?
/r/seduction10/08/10 12:43 AM
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her boyfriend sigh. When did guys stop having respect for one another? When did it become ok to hit on taken women?
/r/seduction10/08/10 12:34 AM
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Oh that was my intention. The crazy 'my life is awesome with my new best friend... Jesus Christ'. So crazy that it just might work :p (though I dare say it'll get me a roll of the eyes and a fast ejection)
/r/seduction29/07/10 01:26 AM
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Bahaha I can't help but cringe just reading that. Its perfect :)
/r/seduction28/07/10 10:49 PM
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LOL that would have been perfect for last night but tonight the only woman I'll be seeing is a friend's mum to set up a surprise party. I might give the PUA practice a miss for the night. I won't get a chance until probably next week actually since I'll be camping with a bunch of guys and one of their gf's but I tell you what... for my progression and your entertainment I'll do that next week :p Since I'm going to hate myself for what I'm about to do before I even approach... give me a line or t…
/r/seduction28/07/10 04:44 AM
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I'm not even in the right country so it definitely wasn't me but as someone still trying to harden up and get over my AA problems I'd still rather be that douche who crashed hard than the even bigger douche (currently me) sitting in the corner thinking "I should go say something". Still, even I know better than to open with an interview :)
/r/seduction28/07/10 03:12 AM
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Well now you know, more helpful replies like this one will be helpful :) I'd rather look for a temporary mate who provides entertaining companionship than banging out some meaningless quick ones with some random I hear ya. Honestly, me too. Being pretty fresh out of a 5 year relationship though I'm in no way keen to find anything serious. Theres a fine line between those two. You know what I severely hate to see in an approach? Becoming overtly sexual before I've dropped any hints of my own, or …
/r/seduction23/07/10 07:10 AM
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I wouldn't call you a standoffish asshole, I'd call you my fears personified. As a guy semi-recently out of a 5 year relationship and dealing with AA, the things that offend you are exactly what sustain my fear. I'm a confident guy who is socially very strong and often dominant and apparently to some pretty intimidating... all this goes out the window when it comes to the topic of opening and its precisely because I know I can't come accross as my confident self and I know she'll think I'm just …
/r/seduction23/07/10 06:51 AM
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I'm offended by the fact that one might think I'm like other women and that I could be impressed by their openers. I know you didn't really come here to answer some guy's questions but can you explain that sentence a little more? What do you mean 'like other women'? Are you referring to marital status? Since being impressed by an opener doesn't equal sex, how and why should a guy know already know that you won't be impressed by theirs regardless of what it may be? I'm just interested to see exac…
/r/seduction23/07/10 06:11 AM
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I would love to see more women having some input into conversations. I was wondering just last week why they don't and assumed that they see the topic of Game (them being the prey) as a little offensive since its often discussed in a fairly clinical type manner as though they aren't actually a person. My only hangup is AA. Threads related to approach anxiety are always of interest to me and I'd personally love to see the opinions of women on this one. From their point of view, what do they speci…
/r/seduction23/07/10 04:26 AM
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A serious question here: Are you offended by guys who do use you for practice? If not, would it make a difference if you were single? I'd imagine your reactions would be different if you had genuine interest in strangers rather than a husband.
/r/seduction23/07/10 04:17 AM
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What you think of her relationship with her current boyfriend is 100% irrelevant. Drop it and move on, she's either a lying, cheating bitch that you shouldn't want to be with anyway or she's just playing you to validate herself as a "I've still got it" ploy. Either way, walk away. There is no possible valid excuse.
/r/seduction22/07/10 02:57 AM
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Hmm fair enough. I'm Aussie, perhaps theres just a difference in humour.
/r/seduction14/07/10 04:39 AM
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Depends on whos behind the bar really. The majority of bar staff where I tend to hang out are female. At one particular place they're all women so this doesn't really happen so much. Either way OP has a response for the situation whichever way it goes. I think the biggest problem is those douches that come out of nowhere and just start ordering over the top of you. Since the woman is (hopefully) paying full attention to you/her ordering if you get walked all over by another guy you're instantly …
/r/seduction14/07/10 04:02 AM
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I don't know where you live but it must be infiltrated with aggressive feminists or something. I've seen guys try some shocking lines that even I was like WTF?!? and the worst they got was a roll of a eyes and a 'ugh'. I even had a mate one night open with "you know you're almost hot enough to be my next ex wife". I mean I understand negging and I've heard the line used as a joke before but he was serious. Yeah, he gets obnoxious when hes drunk. Anywho... still no slap.
/r/seduction14/07/10 03:56 AM
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There are a lot of comments here about how they're not a solid sign that they're interested. This is why we refer to them as an indicator of interest, not proof of interest. As a result you should never see an IOI as hard proof that a woman is interested in you. You can see it as maybe being more likely or a sign that they're not uninterested but never assume that because she touched you a smiled she wants sex. Slowly working through my severe approach anxiety I'm finding mixed results and I hon…
/r/seduction13/07/10 04:43 AM
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If you don't know what you want in any given situation, you'll be easily dominated. This. Be decisive and firm. Don't um and ah and concern yourself with what everyone else will think of your decision.
/r/seduction12/07/10 06:08 AM
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Like thefugue said, focus on making yourself who you want to be by working on one component at a time. If you live by yourself or in a dorm or whatever then work on keeping it clean all the time rather than doing a random clean when things get out of control. Learn to keep yourself well organised, make sure you get a decent amount of sleep rather than 'just another 10 minutes' on the computer/xbox/PS3. The biggest one that made a difference for me - join a gym and bulk up. I just realised this i…
/r/seduction12/07/10 06:05 AM
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Thanks a lot. Sorry for the slow reply, I was away for the weekend :) The warm "Hi" is easy, its the creative part that I fail at. I guess I just have to get comfortable with the situation and learn to deal with the pressure of it all so it becomes second nature and not so overwhelming. In my attempts I've had mostly positive reactions with some negatives and one straight up, brutal rejection. Surprisingly this wasn't hard to deal with at all and I just went on with my night like it never happen…
/r/seduction05/07/10 06:16 AM
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I agree with what you're saying and have the same problems but it seems like you struggle with online communication even. Looks like you need a serious attitude adjustment... Whoa, couldn't figure that out myself, chief. If this is how you respond to someone trying to be helpful you have issues. Attitude aside your points are very valid and are exactly the same as I go through. Practice makes perfect and you're going to have to step out of your comfort zone frequently if you want to get anywhere…
/r/seduction02/07/10 02:16 AM
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This. I used to be the nice guy too. Women would come talk to me about their problems, ask for favours (not the hot kind) and basically just use me and I was happy to go along with it in some pathetic hope of them liking me enough for things to progress. I'm still in the process of gradually changing this since I don't want to suddenly change overnight but the favour asking has stopped, the conversations have changed to much better topics and I'm being consciously assertive and increasingly domi…
/r/seduction29/06/10 02:49 AM
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Good luck and keep us posted on your progress, Ok so I took note of every response here and have pushed myself to put them into action with some confusing and mixed results. I've had a couple of attempts go ok. They seemed happy to be chatting to me and responded well. This was a great boost and encouragement but I'm honestly not even interested in closing at this stage since just opening is still a big strain. The confusing ones are the ones that stick in my mind the most though, the biggest of…
/r/seduction28/06/10 01:00 AM
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As someone who is still dealing with this problem and making a real effort to change, thanks for your helpful post :)
/r/seduction18/06/10 06:11 AM
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Seems like they're just basically making sure they've still got it. Making sure they can still pick up if their current relationship were to end right then and there. Its frustrating at hell but I just brush it off, take it as a positive that she showed interest in me rather than the other guys around me and leave it at that. I had the exact same thing happen to me a few nights ago. Dancing and notice a real hot chick I'd generally consider out of my league is looking at me. I held her gaze for …
/r/seduction16/06/10 07:39 AM
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Have you met a stranger that's boring or intrusive? Yeah, they're not that bad. A good point I hadn't thought about actually. The worst I'll do with someone uninteresting is just be... well... uninterested lol. Not rude or dismissive, just not really pull my weight in a conversation. I'm sure I can handle being the uninteresting person considering the possible positives. I guess I just concern myself too much with the rare ultra-bitches out there who take pleasure in shutting guys down hard for …
/r/seduction11/06/10 01:17 AM
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Clever idea. Thanks man, time to come up with that opener I guess :)
/r/seduction11/06/10 01:05 AM
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One common thing is talking to people as soon as you see them, before you start thinking about it. Thats a good point. Since I know most of this is mental, the more time I get to contemplate the possible negatives the less likely I am to go do it. Another thing you can do is take your friend over to them and introduce him, it takes the heat of you a little bit and seems a bit less weird The trouble with this idea for me is when it comes to women I have two types of friends, the ones who are kind…
/r/seduction11/06/10 01:03 AM
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Thats all very helpful info, thanks a lot :) Everything you've just said seems 100% correct (at least in theory since obviously I'm yet to put it into practice) yet at the same time they're points I'd never considered myself. I guess that was the purpose of me creating this thread. I kinda needed an outside perspective from people who know what they're talking about :) Unfortunately you're spot on with the pasty IT guy still being in control in these situations. It seems like at this point I nee…
/r/seduction11/06/10 12:59 AM
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