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Based AF. Not to mention, statistics show that single women tend to be more content with their lives than single men. Women are figuring out it’s easier to be happy alone than to settle for someone who isn’t harmonious with your values/ desires for the future, doesn’t give you what you need in a relationship emotionally/ mentally/ physically, and makes your life more work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:09 AM
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This is the best answer I’ve ever seen to these kinds of conversations. You merely find out you don’t like doing X/ it wasn’t worth it for you. It has nothing to do with the worthiness of the current partner and everything to do with figuring out your own boundaries on things, be it sexual activities or construction projects.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:04 AM
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Simple answer: it turns out, being educated and understanding the cause-effect of decisions that have huge ramifications on autonomy tends to kill a lot of people’s desire to reproduce. For the longest time, medically tested birth control was not available and finding a life partner brought a societal compulsory expectation of having kids. Now that people are really trying to challenge these expectations and say “what if we don’t hav to do what people before us did”, they’re coming to the conclu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:05 AM
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You hit the nail on the head. It’s never just “noticing patterns.” The whole point of RP is to utilize a perspective on gender dynamics to argue that modern feminism and female financial autonomy is correlated with the altering landscape in dating and marriage. And while it certainly is, it is quite funny RP generally frames it as “unfettered female desire has detrimental effects on society and alienates the average man” instead of the actual truth which is “now that women no longer have to marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 12:33 PM
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It doesn’t do that to every woman. The only people who go mad being single are the ones who don’t want to be single, and even then, most of them end up okay with it or at least coming to terms. If anything, men are more likely to not handle chronic singleness well when you consider statistics about happiness and lifespan.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:56 AM
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I think it’s less about “I see it and deserve it” and more about “I see it and I want it.” People don’t often question if they deserve something abc instead just hope they can get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 09:56 PM
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These men don’t understand that nothing has changed when it comes to women’s attraction to men. We finally get a chance to obtain autonomy and get to express what we’re actually attracted to… these people are insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:41 PM
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The guys on this thread asking why women want to have sex with talk, attractive men as a rebuttal are so tone-deaf it’s hysterical. You’re comparing wanting to get it on with a consenting adult who has their whole life going for them to wanting to get it on with someone who is barely out of childhood. OP, here is your simple answer: teenagers and girls in their early twenties are much easier to manipulate and control. Most teenagers are zitty, developing messes, so I have no idea where the “they…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:01 PM
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You’re welcome! I feel like a lot of dudes find female arousal and preferences to be a mystery when it’s quite straightforward but very different from male turn-ons. Obviously, this does not include all women, but it is the general trend I have noticed between women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 10:36 PM
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The visuals would be more akin to a major motion picture sex scene but more explicit. There would be more emphasis on the “situation” and sexual tension preceding the actual sexual acts. For instance, getting snowed in with your work rival, a handsome jerk who you spar with constantly who is secretly obsessed with you. TBH, look at “Harlequin” and romance novels, then extrapolate from those. They are basically just porn. The reason I prefer erotica to visual porn is partially because of the cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:46 PM
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I’ve asked this for a long time, and the simple answer is that they don’t view women as equals or as anything more than an object. They don’t hate on the “problem” guys because they know they would do the same thing in their position, but if a woman does it, it’s not kosher because he refuses to see her as an equal who deserves to take advantage of her options too. Instead, they accuse her of wanting people out of her league when they are easily more delusional and only notice attractive women b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:12 PM
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As someone who primarily ends up in relationships with guys I befriend first, I have to say it’s happening. It’s just not happening to the guys coming on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:00 AM
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Men definitely have a harder time getting laid, but they also for some weird reason want to exclusively rely on a single person for emotional support instead of having a support system and that that is the main reason men in the first world are so miserable rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 08:15 PM
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I don’t know if everyone would be happier, but it would be way more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 08:12 PM
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I’m not arguing about whether people should leave or not. I’m just saying that you can’t necessarily use sexual activities to measure how much someone likes you. Maybe she liked the other guy more, or maybe sex with him was so boring and disconnected she had to make it spicy to stay interested. Maybe she only did it to keep him happy because he demanded, and she really just likes vanilla and is happy to give it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:12 PM
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It usually results in her getting shit on before he finally just does it. Why do men think the woman values him less if she isn’t willing or interested in doing sexual things with him that she’s done with other people. It’s sexual chemistry. Some people make a person want more vanilla sex and some people make a person feel kinky. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:59 PM
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No, it’s still retroactive. If you’re jealous of her past, it’s retroactive jealousy. Then just break up with her. Don’t shit on her or act like a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:49 PM
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This is the best reply to this debate I’ve seen on this sub. Men don’t need to overlook a woman’s promiscuity when considering dating her, but if they do decide to date her, then they need to manage their retroactive jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:37 PM
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Because being in control feels good to all humans. When you pursue someone who you understand to be an equal in some way, shape, or form, and the other person also views themself as your equal, you will actually have to make compromises instead of getting to do whatever you want because the other person is not afraid to cut and run since they’ll have more options of equal or greater caliber than you. Nobody wants to be abandoned, but if abandonment has to happen, it feels less crappy to be the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:51 PM
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You flair is a mood, and personally, I identify with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:34 PM
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They look like eating disorders, mental breakdowns at 12 am when you scroll across the engagement post of a girl who used to bully you, and rampant self-degradation. Your average woman isn’t going to be game for hair-pulling or actively fighting about a guy with another woman, but when you look at competition in a general sense, we usually turn that frustration inward or become that one annoying woman in the friend group that the others only sometimes like because all she does is complain all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:28 AM
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Western women have finally reached a point where the majority have the capacity to be autonomous and independent, and men haven’t adjusted to the shift in culture that has resulted from it. Needing a man to provide resources and security probably lead to a lot of women having to settle for a partner that they didn’t particularly fancy or admire. Now men, have a lot more competition with one another and have to try harder because being single is way easier than being with someone meh for a lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:16 AM
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I can be okay with being with a non-college educated guy as long as he shows signs of above-average intellect and curiosity. He doesn’t have to have a degree or make six figures or have a super prestigious job, but he does need to be in a line of work that has a decent market and can consistently bring in money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:05 AM
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TBH, I would probably be the woman doing it lol. As long as the sex is consensual between to adult people, I don’t care. The only time I might judge a little is if the person seeking out a sex worker is in a relationship or married.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:00 AM
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Absolutely. Ideally, I would like to have sex every other day. This isn’t a hard and fast thing (stress can cause me to lose interest for durations), but inherently, my partner needs to have a libido that is at least similar to mine. If he isn’t in the mood, though, or has had a loss in libido that is out of character, I can roll with it as long as there is an end in sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:53 AM
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Say it louder for the deaf ass guys in the back. This is the same argument I’ve used in this sun in the past. Not all women are like this. Average-looking stable women are just invisible to most of these guys because they’re much more focused on hot, trashy girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:49 AM
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You need to learn to be at peace with being by yourself and not focusing on dating. That probably sounds counterintuitive, but I think there is a lot of truth to the old adage “you find someone when you least expect it.” When you put yourself out there into social or hobby groups without the expectation of meeting someone, you walk in acting more yourself and confident, and that in itself I usually attractive. People can tell when you’re desperate or trying too hard, and those are the most massi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:10 PM
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Agreed. This is the dumbest fucking post I’ve seen in awhile. It’s like they can’t even hear themselves talking. I’m going to say something a lot of men on this sub aren’t going to like but they need to hear: your insecurity and fear of your girlfriend leaving/ cheating are YOUR problem, and you need to stop using that as justification for jack-knifing her into constantly giving you proof that she’s not cheating. That’s fucking abusive, and you need to stop expecting other people to go have to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:55 PM
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I wouldn’t say it’s a woman’s world haha. It’s more like people like drugs, so if you have drugs, it’s easier to attract people, regardless of if it’s for sex, friendship, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:40 PM
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If a person has strong religious beliefs, the risk of divorce is 14 percent less and having no religious affiliation makes you 14 percent more likely to get divorced.48. If you’re an evangelical Christian adult who has been married, there’s a 26 percent likelihood that you’ve been divorced—compared to a 28 percent chance for Catholics and a 38 percent chance for non-Christians.49. According to Dr. Jennifer Glass, one of the strongest factors predicting divorce rates (per 1000 married couples) is…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:39 PM
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This might be the most legitimately accurate post I’ve seen here on how to get pussy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:26 PM
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Alright. I’ll entertain the idea, but you need to post a statistical analysis or citation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:23 PM
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I think you misunderstand the power of religion. Most of these people who marry young that don’t divorce are doing so because they literally believe they made a life-binding contract and that breaking it results in eternal damnation. Age is such a small factor when religion enters the chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:11 PM
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Because there's an elephant no one in this subreddit really discusses: adults not dealing with their trauma/ internal issues. People get addicted to drama and suffering in relationships because it quite literally triggers feel good chemicals when the better-feeling end of the ferris wheel (the apology, the make-up, the aftercare moment, etc) comes back around. It's not about people not liking "boring" or "stable" people, it's that people aren't addressing the baggage they picked up in childhood …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:23 PM
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Male strength isn't entirely about size. Your limb proportions and the way your ligaments connect your bones also gives your a physical advantage in that you're structural design is built to be able to lift more weight even if you don't have a lot of muscle relative to other males. That's why I would argue that trans women do have a slightly unfair advantage in sports (but that is a whole other topic).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:19 PM
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Have we all forgotten about Peggy Hill lol? That’s the perfect example of a trope inversion. She’s hard-headed, over-idealistic, and kinda dumb while Hank constantly has to be the voice of reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:57 PM
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Lol I remember being in my early 20s and having absolutely no interest in guys who were more than 2-3 years older than me. For some women, the “older” look is not sexually attractive, and no amount of money/ security can make up for it, especially if you’re in STEM and plan on supporting yourself anyway. Also, it makes me so sad how many dudes hit their late 20s and decide to grow a beard because they think it looks “manly.” Someone please bring back the clean-shaven look.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:45 PM
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My main friend group from home was mostly guys (even though I tend to have more female friends), and I think the main reason none of my boyfriends has ever felt threatened is because they come off as gay lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:16 PM
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https://www.jstor.org/stable/3033724
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:14 PM
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Ages: 29F and 28M Relationship length: a little over two years Sex frequency now: he lives in a separate town, so we only see each other on weekends, but we usually have sex once a day when we visit (sometimes a little more or less) Sex frequency previously: once a day or more, depending on stress levels Kids: 0 Initiates: him more, but I do my fair share too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:57 PM
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In my mind, the best things a couple can do are to not have kids and not move in together lol. Having a baby is often cited as one of the main reasons married women lose interest in sex since she’s usually exhausted try to care for it while balancing other things. There was one study that I read a long time ago that also talked about how the woman’s sex drive decreases after moving in with her partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:47 PM
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Merely getting dates is much harder for men. I think a lot of it is self-caused, but I also do think women can be insanely picky about the wrong things, especially in their 20s. The sub has also showed me that society is failing men by not allowing them to create the same support networks as women. However, I still think men have the advantage in that they have more facets they can play up to attract a mate. If a dude isn’t attractive, he can have money or charisma/ a sense of humor. Men don’t c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:09 PM
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These are such easy answers to these questions, and it is kind boggling that everything has to be framed like someone is a victim. The honest truth is that life is not easy regardless of your sex, especially if you were born into a lower socioeconomic class. It’s not a competition or a war of the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:30 AM
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Look, this is fucking stupid. Everyone in the situation can have their feelings as long as they act like adults. The men have every right to be disappointed about getting turned down and withdrawing from the situation. However… the woman also gets to feel disappointed that she thought she’d made a platonic friend with shared interests and discovered the friendship will not be able to proceed due to the dude’s feelings for her. I swear, you people act like being male or female makes you a differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 11:57 PM
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It’s all about control. A lot of these dudes are envious their fathers were from an era where it was easy to get a wife because women weren’t financially independent and had to tie themselves to men they neither liked nor were attracted to without much hope for divorce or anything more than a lifetime of taking care of him and his kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:50 AM
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Current boyfriend is 5’6”, and I’m 5’5”. I have absolutely no issues with it and have always benefitted off of this trend because it leaves a whole pool of hot average to shorter guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:47 AM
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I don’t even fucking know, dude. I am difficult to be with, but I guess there are a few boons. I have a fairly high libido, so daily sex or sex every other day isn’t off the table for my bf. I can be very tender and nurturing towards my partner, especially if they’re having a hard time. For some reason, I attract men who are on the needier end of the spectrum, but I love space and am always willing to respect it in a relationship. I’m not in a hurry to marry, so no pressure there. I’ve always ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:38 PM
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This is putting out some strong rural Midwestern vibes haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:36 AM
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>I don't think men cold approach as much as they used to because we have online dating now. You know, I mostly agree with this assessment, but I recently had a conversation with my ex boss's wife about it when I went to help nanny their toddler. They're both kind of old (the baby was a miracle oops; she is currently in her mid-40s and he is 50) and went to college in the 90s. During one of our conversations, she said that it used to hurt her feelings that only the unnerving or creepy guys hit on…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:28 AM
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I'm sorry, but that is kind of fucking hilarious. "She knows Python and has extensive experience in NGS? Gotta slide into those DMS."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:13 AM
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The sad part is that this is not even the most misogynistic thing I've ever had to reply to on this sub. I tend to come to this sub when I'm in a self-hating mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:53 PM
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I finally got back on Reddit and read this. I can't reason with you because you won't reason with yourself. I did look up your claim about testosterone, and you were right about it not necessarily being linked to violent behavior, but regardless men commit the majority of crimes. Your reasoning is subjective, and I don't understand what you are trying to prove at some points. In particular, when you say "men have more serious triggers but women act out more often and in greater numbers." How? Ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:49 PM
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To be honest, I think it has to do with our innate and taught sense of resource guarding. Friendships have certain constraints unless you live with them and share food and resources, which the individuals then start to look at each other as family. The reason relationships are the aim are because you achieve two things: a higher likelihood of reproductive success and a stable connection you can trust. I think some of the putting of relationships on a pedestal comes from the glamor of it made pop…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:46 PM
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I don’t take either pill because I think human behavior, culture, and society make it too complex to just have any single trend within the realm of courtship. With BP, I agree that personality is one of the strongest factors for what women find attractive because I’ve seen some meh looking guys get fail because they have the confidence and charisma to do it. I would rather take a funny, intelligent, sharp witted, somewhat aloof slightly less than average man than a dull hit guy any day. With RP,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:25 PM
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Oh right, because the slag who manages to get a girl a couple of levels above him won’t try to cheat on her with someone hotter. As if high school and college didn’t happen when average looking guys start out ignoring a good portion of their average peers because they thought they could score a hotter chick. I’ve watched this happen but none of the guys on here admit to it or understand it happened because that would take a shred more self awareness or at least the humbleness to know that they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:23 PM
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And you don't think men don't do the same? Both sexes usually start out going for terrible hot people. The difference is the result, which is the women getting played by a douchebag and the guys relentlessly pursuing a woman who has no interest in them and refuses to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:15 PM
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I’ve said this before, but the reason I think the dating arena is so much more challenging in this current era is because humans are not innately designed to tolerate each other but tend to have to for survival. The modern era is radical in that a lot of people may not be wealthy or even be doing great financially, but technology and movement towards more urbanized societies has made it so that we don’t need to directly rely on another person to survive. If we don’t need someone to help us survi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 06:55 AM
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Right, and we don’t see men on Instagram who do this kind of stuff? It might be more common for women to fish for attention using social media but that doesn’t mean men don’t do it this way and it doesn’t mean they don’t fish for attention through different avenues.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 06:45 AM
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Did I once say “all men are rapists?” The person I trust the most with my life is a man and my best friend of over a decade. I’m saying that women are right to be cautious. I don’t know if you’ve ever come across the saying “it’s better to be safe than sorry” but it’s been a saying for a long time for a good reason. No, murder and rape aren’t happening in front of everyone every single day, but they are facts of life, so dismissing people’s caution and fears about them are plain ludicrous. I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 12:59 AM
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Rich spinster > married mediocre life
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:50 PM
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There are plenty of women who regularly consume anime content who aren’t into the weird kinky stuff…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:48 PM
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… what the fuck did we ever do to you? We just want to enjoy our interests like everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:47 PM
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Potentially lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:26 PM
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Wanted to share this with you because I care more about being true than right. I’d like to say I have a lot of respect for you in regards to this. It’s not easy to admit, especially on the internet, so thank you. And I’d like to offer the same to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:23 PM
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I guess it’s statistics like these that make me think though that the gap is not that big. Men still experience violent crime slightly more, but the difference is not staggering. Another statistic I saw said that it was about 1.7% of women and 2.5% of men who experience violent crime ages 15-24. https://www.statista.com/statistics/423245/us-violent-crime-victims-by-gender/ https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2018/51/fewer-women-than-men-fall-victim-to-violence And then of course, we aren’t even discus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:17 PM
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I mean, to be fair that was fucking stupid on her end and not something myself or most women would’ve done. I would probably be just as wary of you as the dark garage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:47 PM
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Also, regardless of the frequency of rape, it’s still a fucking problem and down playing it is kind of fucked up as well. You don’t even think about the rape occurring behind closed doors or that goes unreported. This goes for women as well as men. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a lot more common than we think.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:45 PM
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This isn’t even a crime olympics… sheesh. And yes, you do have a point that bigger stronger men are just as formidable to other men as they are to women. I’m fine with you saying that rape isn’t as common and that men get violent crimes against them more often. What I’m not fine with is you guys making fun of us for being afraid. We have a reason to be as afraid as you, and we have a lot of conditioning as children and young adults to be extra conscious of it. Everyone needs to protect themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:44 PM
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Oh let me roll my eyes harder for you. That’s not what I’m even saying, for fuck’s sake. I’m saying that you guys marginalizing our rightful cautiousness is shitty. “Oh look at me I’m a man and much more likely to be in danger so fuck you little woman for being afraid and looking out for yourself in a way that might potentially end up saving your life.” EVERYONE needs to be cautious. Men and women and everyone in between. Getting murdered, robbed, or raped is not hard, so we all need to take pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:39 PM
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Maybe if you were 5’4” and 125Ibs dealing with someone with 5in-8in and 35Ibs-75Ibs on you who is biologically stronger than you and could easily murder or rape you, you would understand why we are so cautious and fearful. Yes, the majority of victims of violent crimes are male but being female means that it is a lot easier for your likely male assailant to kill or seriously harm you. We grew up having it beat into us to not trust men or be paranoid. A lot of us have been stalked or followed or …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 11:21 PM
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Well yes, I agree that after both parties are a certain age it usually doesn’t matter. I am saying that it’s an exception to the rule that my grandmother was a teenager when she married my grandpa in his late 20s and that their marriage proved to not only stand the test of time but be a decent marriage. Age gaps where the younger party is at least in their mid-20s aren’t really that big of an issue to me or most people I know. Most people I know are just weirded out when it is a situation where …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 11:09 PM
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I can’t upvote this enough. The argument above doesn’t really address context with the whole “18 is cognitively old enough.” That’s great that the 18 year old is at a point they can kind of make okay decisions for themselves, but the thirty year old who waited for them to get there is likely still quite creepy. I agree it’s case by case merely because different people in different situations can really color how we view things. My grandma was 16 when she married my grandpa in his late 20s; it wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:07 AM
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I agree with this. Having open communication, consistent APPROPRIATE affection, and an emotionally available presence is not the same as lording over her sexuality. There was a joke we used to laugh about with another girl that cops kid’s (me) and preacher’s kids (her) always end up the wildest. I wasn’t promiscuous, but you bet your ass that I tried drugs and alcohol and partying once I got out of my dad’s house. Making things taboo and trying to control your kids only makes it more fascinating…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:19 AM
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I came here to say this. You either get shit on for being a resource-sucking leech, or you get shit on for hitting the wall by the time you finish up your education to have a great career.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:17 PM
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They’ve been railing at Stacies and Pick Me’s for quite awhile, so it was only a matter of time before they came for female nerds. Never mind that we come in all shapes and sizes, but we apparently are handing out nudes like valentines in first grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:13 PM
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Thank you. When I was going through my Netflix cue and ran across this show, I cringed watching the premise because I knew it was going to come up here sooner or later.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 09:57 PM
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Fine. Whatever, renting is a form of sharing. Not in the classic sense but I’ll give you a sliver of a point even if it’s unwarranted since it’s technically true. I guess that means we are all shared by everyone. Your wife and your kids share you for resources. My friends share me as a moral support. The major point here that I, as an individual, will not “share” another human being as a romantic partner with others in the same span of time if I can help it. It’s one thing to not know you’re “sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:10 PM
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Alright, maybe it’s just me, but sharing implies that there is an object (or, in this case, person) that is being utilized in a joint manner during the same span of time. If we want to really get coarse but accurate in language, “renting” would be more fitting. If someone lived in the same apartment before you, you aren’t “sharing” it with them because they’re gone. You’re only sharing an apartment if you’re both renting it at the same time. You both may not always be using it on the same schedu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:30 AM
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Hey now Wiley man, you’re the one suggesting that dating is a form of sharing and appear to be judgmental of women who do it. Can’t project on an observation, really. TBH, I think humans are what they are, but the key lies in us being able to make choices. Fuck everyone. Fuck no one. Fuck one person. It’s whatever. Just live your life true to yourself, and don’t intentionally hurt others along the way. I’m more fascinated that you think of people forming relationships that occur at different poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:53 AM
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I don’t think you read the paragraph I wrote because I see nothing about sharing. More likely, you’re try to snag me with a loophole in my statement that doesn’t exist. Monogamy to me is pursuing a relationship with the intent of it lasting and being devoted to only that person during the course of it. You’re the one calling people who have had multiple long term relationships as sharers or the shared. It’ll be interesting for you when your children grow up and start dating around. Hopefully the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:23 AM
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But seriously, you probably need to re-evaluate why you look at women as objects. Because for as much as you think I’m full of shit, I assure you the sentiment is reciprocated. I think it’s weird that you jump from agreeing that women share attractive men to viewing women going through long term monogamous relationships as being an object that is passed around. Are we the object being passed, the slutty passers who are willing to degrade themselves by “sharing” the same sexually attractive partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 02:29 AM
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Well… that woman’s interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:52 AM
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I mean, it is true though… people aren’t objects and I don’t share them because I don’t take ownership of someone. And I don’t view the men I dated who went on to be with other people as a bottle of wine getting passed on because I’m not a raging asshole. Well… how does being more than somewhat misogynistic go in line with being married?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:54 PM
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I mean, by that logic a vast majority of us are used good then lol. Men, women, transgender people, non-binary, furries, Catholic teenagers who only do anal, etc. Just a little notification here, but people aren’t belongings that you “share” or “sell” or “trade.” I mean I guess you could, but those are generally illegal in first world countries. In the egalitarian sense of things though, no one is a bottle that gets passed around. People are just doing their thing living their lives and hoping f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 05:52 AM
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What, I can’t have had sex in committed relationships that lasted more than a year through the course of my twenties?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:29 AM
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I’ll say what I always say: I don’t share.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 02:26 AM
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I’m more attracted to introverts than extroverts. It just depends on how the shyness manifests. If he can warm up to the situation and become very engaging when he’s comfortable, then that’s absolutely fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 08:11 PM
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You didn’t say they were pleasant but you did trivialize it. I’m saying as someone who has watched babies but also done housework, I would almost always rather do housework. That’s not to say it’s a small thing or that men aren’t contributing as much, but childcare (which at this point is still mostly something that women do) is brutal in my opinion because you can’t just walk away or save it for another day. I think the best system is a trade off where the partners take turns doing housework or…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:06 PM
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Dude, babies are fucking terrible to watch. They might not require as much manual effort as say fixing the sink, but when you have ten pounds of flesh screaming at you and refusing to stop as you try everything to shut it up, you’re going to get drained fast. I don’t think that that is a very fair assessment. I would way rather do work around the house than watch a baby. At least the housework you can take a lunch break from or let go for a few days.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 05:34 PM
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I think there’s two-fold damage going on. I have this concept I call “Disney Syndrome” in which young girls are raised to think that at some point in life they will meet the man of their dreams and that they will fall in love and get married. This type of mindset is the reason women tend to be pickier than man. It’s not about hypergamy, it’s about wish fulfillment. The reason it looks like women settle in life is because it takes us into our twenties often times to discern what are realistic exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 05:29 PM
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I think the general trend is that women’s sex drives are somewhat lower than men’s, but I don’t think the gap is that big. I think the bigger thing is that men are more willing to compromise what they’re attracted to to get laid. However, once that woman is able to bang what she finds to be attractive, she has the capacity to be just as horny as her partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 05:17 PM
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Social class, race, upbringing, natural mannerisms/ personality, culture, sexuality, physiological variables (hormone levels, etc), and life experiences. I could go on. An ego is affected by a lot of different variables and shaped from outside as well as within. It’s too complex to pick it apart to simple things. Also, reading what you put, I don’t think you really understand women. There are plenty of men I admire from a distance but would never go for because they’re out of my league. Most wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 05:13 PM
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men LOVE sex Great. So do some of us. If I could have it twice a day from someone that I find appealing, I’d be living the dream. That aside, I think the big problem here is something I never see discussed on here: Madonna-Whore complex. I personally haven’t dealt with it, but I see a lot of women online and who I know IRL encountering it. This isn’t every man obviously but there’s a portion of the male population that straight up gets turned off if a woman has sex with them too soon, often beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:45 AM
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This is an absurd question because ego is too complex to be encapsulated in gender. There are so many variables pertaining to it that it can’t be chalked up to men versus women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:21 AM
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I’ve been labeled as ambitious before, so I guess I’m looking for a similar style of ambition. I want a guy whose ambition goes beyond money and financial goals and tangible materials things. I want someone who is like me and gets straight obsessed with solving a problem or puzzle. I want someone who is intellectually ambitious and desires to contribute to mankind. He doesn’t have to be a Nobel prize winner or a dazzling genius, but he has to have a drive that is independent of accolades and adm…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:18 AM
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This can’t be said enough. I don’t want a guy to be ambitious to impress me. I want him to have ambition that comes from a place of passion and intense investment into his interest, job, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:08 AM
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Why is it just always men in these discussions? Sheesh, it’s like no one believes single women have dead bedrooms lol I’ve talked about this topic multiple times because I think it’s exciting and fascinating. I’m not talking about a sex doll that moves and plays recorded sex moans but realistic, life-like mimics of human form and behavior. It goes much farther than just a “sex robot” but is actually intelligent enough to provide conversation and companionship. I am well aware this is going into …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:04 AM
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I definitely think there’s a curve where if you are a certain level of hot, you can kind of get away with it. However, I do think that it mostly turns women off if he is hard to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:56 AM
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It’s because personality and mannerisms are a large part of it. I’ve seen guys who are slightly above average in attractiveness turn off every woman in the room with their behavior. I think the biggest problem is that, in general, men tend to be less mindful of what they say and do and how that affects others than women. I am not saying all guys are like this but more that it’s the general trend. I also think that a lot of the guys who are looking for genuine, serious relationships are getting b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:58 PM
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I think this is the main reason that dating in the 21st century sucks that no one talks about. People in the past had to rely on each other in order to survive so their ability to tolerate each other was more honed. With automation, increasingly advanced technology, and movement into urban areas, the necessity of directly relying on a partner has decreased and with it our incentive to put up with each other. I’m not complain because I think it also lets us value ourselves more and avoid toxic re…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:56 AM
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You know, I actually find this incredibly funny. Thank you for giving me a good laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:28 AM
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I think they suck equally for entirely different reasons. The things I think this sub shows me best is that: A- a lot of people in first world countries have too much time on their hands B- it is human nature to innately not stand each other but also feel like we need each other
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:27 AM
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Wait, are we still in the scenario, or IRL? Because I don’t date women IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:57 PM
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*see reply to TLDR in comments above
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:52 PM
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You know, I actually found this to be fairly informative so thank you for that. You made some good points on things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:26 PM
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You know, I won’t even dispute that. Come to think about it, I think adjusting to people being more suspicious of me would probably be the most difficult thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:25 PM
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Nah. I’d still be trying to figure out how to jerk off just right by day two. I’d say more like day twenty-one is when I’d start trying to get laid. Maybe I’d whine, maybe I wouldn’t. Maybe I’d be a smash hit with women. Maybe I wouldn’t. TBH, I equate not having anyone interested in me as being on par with having people interested in me that I’m not interested in. I don’t think my personal situation would change much if I were to be a man. I don’t think my sentiments towards the dating world or…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:24 PM
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Day twenty: I am so confused. If I fuck a guy too soon, he leaves me because he feels like I am too easy. If I wait to fuck a guy, he leaves me because I’m using sex to manipulate him into an exclusive situation. Day forty: I’ve finally noticed that, at work, the customers are a lot more irritable and disrespectful towards me than when I was a man. Also, my male coworkers seem to view me as less competent by either roasting me for every little mistake or coming in to “save me” if they think I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:14 PM
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act like a decent and normal person You see, the problem here is that the vast majority of people on this sub are here because they can’t do this… lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:57 PM
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Translation: I’m as incompetent at insulting an Internet stranger as I am at getting my dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 05:53 AM
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Translation: I’m lazy and don’t like you counteracting my attempt to whine about my experience as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 05:04 AM
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More like day one: “Why the fuck do my balls itch so much? Also, I guess my dude friends were right about having to adjust your balls to sit.” “Fuck fuck fuck, how do I walk around and look normal with this meat rocket standing stiff all of the time?” “Is this what it’s like to be able to walk around at night without keys between my fingers? This is kind of fucking rad lol.” “Dear diary, I managed to sprain my wrist today after hours of jerking off. I knew I was a horny Bitch as a woman, but thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:59 AM
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Shhhh, let me have my unrealistic fantasies. But yeah, you’re right. It’s just a small joke I like to tell myself but slightly hope for. I’ve found that the majority of people are intolerable at a romantic level and would like to think there are alternatives out there beyond masturbation. At least at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:33 AM
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Not a lot, really. I think I’m a bit more empathetic about the state of dating for men and have recognized that there a few ways I have things easier as a woman. However, I would by and large rather be a man. In general though, this sub has made realize how little proactivity people have in their dating lives and that a lot of people lack awareness to the point that it negates their accountability in their situations. Overall, more than anything I’ve come to realize that human courtship might be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:47 AM
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I disagree with this a lot. While I think it’s common for there to be feelings resulting from at least one party initially, platonic bonds can also be born out of initial attraction. My best friend in the world is a guy I had a crush on for a short time in high school who didn’t reciprocate. However, even with the rejection we still grew to be close. He is not someone that I would ever be romantically compatible with I realize now that I am older, but he is the best friend I’ve ever had. I see h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:26 AM
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I 100% agree with this. Back when I tried Tinder, I absolutely hated it because everything about it is deeply uncomfortable and forced. Going on a first date knowing that they either look at you as a potential romantic partner or hook up makes an already awkward situation much worse. All of my relationships have resulted from school. Making fun of annoying classmates, bitching about teachers/ professors, laughing about funny things you both experienced recently in your department, listening to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:16 AM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:27 AM
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Ah, fair enough. I’m not disputing that there is information on this, but I just suggest never using Fox News for sources on anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:25 AM
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Okay, don’t even touch the “women are lazy, self absorbed, passive partners” bullshit because let me tell you how many men out there who are most definitely average looking think that they don’t have to try. I think maybe the issue is that the people in our generation are fucking clueless about how to romance a partner because we got the liberty of hiding behind our phones and laptops to avoid IRL rejection instead of learning how to socialize like fucking human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:06 AM
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This is so brutally true, it hurts. The guys on here are chasing real girls, but they’re not an accurate representation of the general population of women, and they’re also definitely not good women. Hot? Likely. The same guys who make fun of women for getting “pumped and dumped by Chad” are the same ones who hitting dead ends trying to hook up with sexually provocative women with options.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:01 AM
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I’m pretty pro- “everyone gets a hyper-realistic sex/ companion robot” at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:58 PM
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I see a Fox News link and am preparing myself for some level 10 bullshit. I would probably try another source if I were you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:51 PM
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TBH, my biggest problem with porn is that it never looks like either party is enjoying it. Even the dudes usually look bored. Shout out to Bruce Venture though for his dungeon porn video where a man dared grunt and make sexually gratified sounds. Overall, I get it and I don’t. I prefer erotic novels or even just my own fantasies because I’m kind of a control freak. Porn is fun sometimes, just not frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 10:09 PM
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I guess correction. We are visual, but porn is not at all aesthetically pleasing to us. Well, not to most of us anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:29 PM
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In general, men aren’t going to be attracted to women of lower physical attractiveness. Even the chubby girls that are chased by men usually have conventionally attractive traits even if their weight isn’t conventionally attractive. The MILF category women are not going to be saggy and decrepit but well groomed and somewhat taut. People like attractive people, so I don’t know why women get railed for doing the same thing men do on here. The only true difference between men and women is that the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:46 PM
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Yeah, male porn actors as a general population do not cater to female fantasy at all. TBH, the women aren’t that hot either, but that’s just my personal take.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:42 PM
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Demisexuality and sapiosexuality are buzzwords. In my opinion, they can describe facets of attraction but are not sexual identities in themselves. Someone might have to be emotionally attracted to someone to have that sexual attraction, but just because they’re emotionally attracted does not mean the physical attraction will follow. Mostly, it means that they need to have an emotional attraction before they can even consider if they’re physically attracted to the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:41 PM
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This. It doesn’t matter how “woman friendly” the porn is. No one ever makes it truly gratifying for women because we’re not as visual focused.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:37 PM
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Idk what else to tell you other than that the same thing applies for women who have ass and women who are flat. That’s life. The most important thing you can do is just take care of yourself physically, mentally, and emotionally. This whole “sex and dating are a market” thing is super unhealthy for all of us because we lose worth about ourselves in our own eyes. If a short man can value himself, stand up straight with his shoulders back, and not care what others think, he is always going to be m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 08:28 PM
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As opposed to general looks, fitness, other traits? Probably not. The only time it might put a guy over the top is if they’re both the same level of physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 08:05 PM
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This is so real lol. I've had so many conversations with female friends about dudes, and the variety in what we find attractive is fairly high. One friend liked slightly pudgy hipster guys with great beards, another friend liked jacked black football players, another liked Mexican dudes with nice biceps and dad bods, and then there's me who likes thin little geeky white or asian guys with glasses. I don't think that men don't have these preferences, but I think that women find them to be more in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:02 AM
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You're missing the point though. If it was a MAJOR aspect of female attraction then it would be condemning men below 6' to sexlessness. Ideal maybe, but I think the point of what she is saying is that we often learn that our ideals aren't really great in practice. For instance, she mentioned that sex positions are easier without a lot of height difference which is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 09:57 AM
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If they have garbage posture and are otherwise unattractive, their height isn't going to help that much. I've met plenty of gawky dudes who weren't conventionally attractive who weren't exactly swimming in pussy. They'll have a slightly easier time than men of the same attractiveness who are shorter, but I sometimes think that women overestimate their attraction to tall men and that men overestimate our attraction to tall men. I myself am fairly neutral about height. I am like 5'4", so 5'8" to 6…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 09:50 AM
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Not really. It's more like we experience objectification more blatantly earlier in life, which is jarring for a lot of us. Many of us end up not being on the preferred end of this objectification spectrum, so we feel the desire to not be shallow because we want to believe that we ourselves have value and that if we can value men who are less conventionally attractive it means we can be valued in return. Unfortunately, we learn at some point or another that we are all shallow to a degree. This is…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 09:43 AM
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OP: DO YOU NOT SEE WHAT MEN DO FOR ALL OF YOU DEPENDENT WOMEN! Male Population: Dude, I’m just trying to collect a paycheck here… You know who else is dependent on all of these male labor workers? White collar men. Hell, even working class men are reliant on each other. The plumber needs and electrician and vice versa. If we were to apply the same logic OP is using, I guess we’d be putting in catheters at the hospital by ourselves and homeschooling kids instead of sending them to a public school…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 01:35 AM
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It is, but the way I see it is just a cultural shift. No transition is ever smooth. Unfortunately, people in our age category are the ones who are going to deal with the growing pains more than coming generations who will have it all smoothed out for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:29 AM
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Ugh… okay, that might be a part of the problem. If you want to move away from women who want a traditional setup, you might literally have to move away. I’m from the Midwest, and we had a similar setup in that a lot of us are caught in this confused mix of traditional gender roles and movement towards progressive values.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:55 AM
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*everyone loves cake
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:51 AM
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Are you in the US? And if so, what region? That might be a part of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:45 AM
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Funny because the feeling is mutual.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:39 AM
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I mean, I think of it more as a snowball effect. A lot of people don't necessarily go out of their way to date if they can help it. Not in the thirty-something-panic-mode-dating sense at least. Most people meet someone they find attractive and either want to bang them or be around them more if they find the whole package attractive. That just kind of leads into a relationship if the feeling is mutual. It's the way most of us want to find love because actively dating feels dry, lifeless, stale, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:37 AM
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I mean, if they're weeding you out because of that, good riddance anyway? This might be an unpopular thought, but we sometimes have to stick to our guns if we want things to change. If guys didn't cave to stuff like this, women would have to be more open to going Dutch.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:18 AM
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Believe it or not, there are woman who subscribe to this kind of thought. I’m currently out of the dating scene because I don’t want to deal with all of it, but if I were dating I would pay my half because I would rather the system be entirely fair for both sexes even if it means giving up a few nice boons than resort back to the traditional way of things. It’s hit or miss with women depending on demographic, upbringing, childhood culture, etc. I know women who expect them to pay the first time …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 10:42 PM
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These are the interactions I look for on this sub. I’m not trying to shit on the struggles of men, but I am trying to convey that women have their own unique set of struggles. I have been extremely unlucky in love, but I haven’t been through the run of the mill experiences a lot of other average women have (pump and dump). I guess the big thing I want to get across is that the majority of us (or at least the majority of women I know) aren’t out here thinking we are going to land a rich 9 or even…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:54 PM
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When I say “hot men and women”, I’m saying “hot men and hot women.” Sheesh. You’re missing what I’m saying. I’m saying that the hotter you are the pickier you are regardless of sex. The majority of men on here seem to insinuate that average women are the ones chasing the hot men and not vice versa. I don’t know what average women you’re talking about who want to “share” men, but I sure as hell am not that way and neither are the majority of my average female friends. Hot or no hot, if you can’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:30 PM
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I’ve been on those apps, and let me tell you the hotties don’t wait a second for you. I got decent matches but never anyone who knocked my socks right off. I definitely got my fair share of creeps who are really into “smart girls” and guys who came off so desperate that they shot themselves in the foot. Maybe my own experiences suck (no, I am not and have never been overweight), but I never matched with anyone super hot and got a reply. I think the only reason men think dating is easier is becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 09:13 PM
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women can get sex on tap with really hot guys I don’t know where the fuck any of you get this, but I assure you that most single women like myself are not getting laid by a bunch of hotties. I’m not getting it from 8s-9s now, and I wasn’t getting it in my early twenties. Neither were most of the women around me. We would link up with people in our own attractiveness range and sometimes go “thirsty” for awhile. Maybe I’m fucking ugly and have no idea I am, but at the very least my body has always…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:40 PM
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I think the incentive is not getting treated like shit and having your self esteem put through the ringer... that's something everyone learns in their 20s. You learn to value people who value you, but a lot of people also learn that they can't just get with someone because they're "nice." There is a tightrope being walked. Someone half-way bang-able who is going to value you. I see it with men too. The only reason it's focused on with women is because this sub is male dominated. You don't think …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:25 PM
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I just seriously think that people reflect on their shitty relationships and grow from them. Men and women. I think it seriously undermines people by assuming that the only reason they’re quitting on a toxic dynamic is because their looks are fading. People don’t particularly like being treated like garbage but it can take awhile for people to figure out what they deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:06 PM
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So only men can have character development over time that is not triggered by external forces?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:00 PM
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So you don’t think this realization happens after toxic relationships start to take an emotional toll on the woman? You don’t think these realizations happen after people realize they are making mistakes with their dating patterns and decide to adjust them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:16 AM
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No, they start to mature when they realize that fairy tales don’t exist, people aren’t ever going to genuinely change for them, and that toxic people make toxic partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:46 PM
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This. I agree with this. I don’t want to ever stop looking attractive, and I don’t want my partner to give in either. When you look great and treat your body great, you’ll feel great, and the sex will continue to be great.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:44 PM
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I mean, it’s something both sexes do and more of a personal issue than a sex-based one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:40 PM
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Or I raise you this: for two equally hot women, the more indifferent one will be seen as more attractive every time!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:38 PM
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And indifference makes dicks hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:06 PM
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That’s not the point. The point is that you have to take responsibility for your own sex life and the consequences resulting from it. If you are fucking a crazy bitch with questionable character, you have to acknowledge that if she gets knocked up you aren’t a complete victim because you chose to play Russian roulette with your cock. Sex and relationships are defensive driving. If a single mom gets berated for getting knocked up by some dirtbag who leaves her high and dry, a man who gets trapped…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:04 PM
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Oh yes, because all women are cheating Whores who only go frigid for their husbands. The fact that men on here never own up to the fact that men can be cruel too speaks for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 10:57 PM
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I don’t think this is healthy when you think of it in the context of someone being a “fixer-upper.” Regardless, we shouldn’t marry or date someone for their status, but when you think of this in an approach to a partner overall from bad boys to nerds to everyone in between, you can’t change anyone. And you shouldn’t try. That is always a road that leads to nowhere. Sure, you can be a supportive partner and be there to help your partner if they want to change, but getting with someone because you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 10:42 PM
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But u/NarniaFox, don’t you understand that there’s a difference between what people want and what people marry because of AFBB?!/s This is the Salem Witch trials: 2020s Edition. Everything women do is picked apart and there’s no winning, so what’s the point of any of this? Maybe we need to just accept that no matter what we do or say or become, men are always going to despise us for merely being alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 10:36 PM
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They wouldn’t care if someone else had never had those experiences. I’ve had a pretty good crew of characters in my life who are fairly accepting of other people and wouldn’t judge you for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 05:52 PM
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You are a deeply out of touch individual. For one thing, a lot of rape allegations go nowhere unless there’s physical evidence. This has not changed with any of the awareness of sexual assault being brought to public attention. Yeah, divorce rape is a thing. But you know what else is? Forced shared custody. I know a woman who tried to fight the court to keep her daughter from doing visitations with the father because she suspected he was molesting her, but she wasn’t old enough to testify. It wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 07:24 AM
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https://wolf.org/headlines/caption-attached-to-photo-of-wolves-traveling-through-snow-as-a-pack-is-false/ Incorrect. That one viral photo was wrong on general about the sick/ weak leading. But current research into the behavior of wolves has demonstrated that the bonds and relationships they build with each other are crucial to the dynamics of pack life and that they don’t tend to pick off the “vulnerable” between each other. And even if they did, we are humans and we can make the choice not to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 06:28 AM
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I’d like to comment that’s not necessarily true about wolves. They actually have a tendency to be protective of the old and weak in the pack.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 06:12 AM
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I was about to jump in with this after reading this conversation thread, but wow… this dude needs a new social scenery lol. The majority of people I know wouldn’t really care about being a virgin or never having been kissed. Surprised maybe, but they wouldn’t make a big deal out of it. I also think the reason he’s having issues with women freaking over talking about sex is that the timing or the context is turning them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 06:02 AM
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And what privileges are those? The privilege to choose someone instead of an arranged marriage? The privilege to be financially autonomous so that we can literally afford to be more selective about our mates? I sometimes wish the men on here would just come out and blatantly say that they wish society would go back to enforcing female submission. Saying that we’re being given too much privilege is code for “you are all getting to make too many choices for yourselves, and I don’t like that fuckin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 12:50 AM
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It’s almost like these people don’t go into public or only go to places that validate their world view… This is spot on. Hipster chicks like hipster dudes, goth girls like goth dudes, nerdettes (like myself) like nerd dudes. Sure, even in those communities there is a spectrum of attractiveness and conventional attractiveness doesn’t have no power, but the free spirited or alternative communities have a lot of average to less than average people in relationships, and there are more likely to be “…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 06:18 PM
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Danny DeVito has entered the chat I know I know it doesn’t count he’s famous. I disagree though. I don’t see a lot of conventionally attractive women go for guys who are both bald and overweight, but I’ve met more than a few who ended up with guys having one of those traits. It tends to be more common the older the couple is when they marry, but that’s a given since weight gain and hair loss go hand in hand with aging.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:35 AM
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I’m not saying guys are not aware that non-overweight is preferred for women. It’s more like I see that guys tend to verbally express it more than women, and it sometimes seems like dudes don’t think it’s as much of a turn off for us as it is for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:31 AM
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Which is why it’s thrown around on here a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:57 PM
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The first by far. I do not want an online activist or a man who is lazy about his activism, but I am very attracted to men who take an interest in bettering the world and caring about things outside of their personal sphere. One trait I would like in a partner is someone who wants to participate in/ give to their community and the global community. I meet so many men on here and in the real world who don’t care about what is going on in at a big picture scale. To me, it’s really unattractive to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:56 PM
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TBH, my biggest thing is weight. My taste has some wiggle room and allowances can be made depending on other variables like personality traits/ overall physical traits, but I am just not at all into overweight guys. A little pudge is okay, and I’m not into super muscular guys, but I really prefer lean men. I think it’s kind of funny when guys’ main advice to women to attract men is “don’t be fat”, but then they’re mystified about what attracts women. It’s the same. Most women I know aren’t a fan…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:46 PM
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I swore I’d stay away from this sub, but here I am again lol. Here’s something I don’t see people of either sex on here consider: for some reason (that I highly suspect is due to what I call the “Disney effect” and social conditioning), women are more specific in their mate hunting. When I ask a guy what his ideal woman would be like, he’s usually more general. “Pretty, good sense of humor, easy to get along with, smart, etc.” on the other hand, women are much more specific about the details bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 11:37 PM
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How dare women evaluate their investment in a relationship and whether or not it’ll be something that will enrich their life./s Seriously, this sub is a joke. The hypocrisy is almost unreal, like they expect members of the opposite sex to not at all be invested in if a relationship is a merit in their life. My bad if I don’t want to date someone who bored me/ makes me feel emotionally taxed or is a financial burden on me. I dated that neurotic nerd, and he left me with a lot of baggage. Maybe th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:34 PM
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I 100% see this a lot. My dad complains about how my generation expects handouts and doesn’t understand that I have had many friends who have had to work multiple jobs to stay afloat even with a bachelors degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:50 PM
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A lot of people on here have pointed out that part of the issue is economics. It takes two working people to really provide for a family, and it takes two above average salaries to do this while paying a house mortgage. Most people (men and women) want children at some point, so when the economy makes this as difficult as humanly possible, the point for pairing up becomes moot. People are more likely to have to take “shallow” variables like their partner’s pay/ salary into account. The classical…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 10:46 PM
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Neither have I. Virginity shaming is much more common with men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 08:14 PM
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Oh hey. We all get into bad head spaces, and I think it’s important you recognize it. Dating can be emotionally taxing and brutal to the ego. I genuinely hope you find someone who loves and accepts you for you. It’s hard contending with rejection when depressed/ anxious, but I want to say you still have worth regardless of whether or not you have a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 07:35 PM
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I just highly disagree with this. I’ve met plenty of men who for some strange reason became fixated on a woman who was physically more attractive than him and would orbit her while treating all other women as invisible. This is why I don’t really believe a lot of guys on here when they say they’re aiming for a looks-match. I think there are equal shares of delusional men and women who aim for people who have high competition for suitors and genuinely believe that they’ll win in the end. I also t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 07:21 PM
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Say it louder for the misogynistic, self-pitying jerks in the back. Idk where the hell some of these dudes grew up, but I was raised in the Bible Belt portion of the Midwest, and I can’t tell you how much unspoken pressure there is to find a life partner and get married by your mid 20s. Granted, there’s pressure for men too to adhere to this lifestyle, but with women (especially when you start to get into your late 20s to early 30s), there can be this patronizing tone of pity if you haven’t foun…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:10 PM
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I’m not going to disagree with this. I think most people are similar in shallowness. Some are more willing to admit it than others. I used to be in denial about it, but I’ve realized there’s no use in pretending that I only care about personality. I am shallow. I laugh whenever the advice for men to women on how to attract guys is “don’t be fat” as if that isn’t our main advice back. I think what we often forget though is that one person’s standards doesn’t match another’s. I’ve often disagreed …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:49 PM
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u/Narniafox if you’re out there, I’d like to say I always enjoy seeing your username commenting in a thread. You are one of the few people on this sub who balances empathy and reason, and that is a breath of fresh air. I agree with the commenter above that your list of standards are absolutely more than reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:01 PM
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If this is a conventional standard, then I don’t think most of us want to get married lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:58 PM
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This is a point I try to make a lot. I sometimes don’t understand the arguments made on here or why guys (or girls) bother being mad about how things aren’t like the 50s-60s. What’s the point of any of it if it’s forced by social rules? It just seems empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:57 PM
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Yeah, standards are varying so any give-and-take for people should be something they negotiate with themselves. Standards aren’t really so much of an exact list as they are just a set of priorities if the person is realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:54 PM
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This is an excellent answer because it acknowledges that some women do purposely string men along like this while also calling out the men who don’t understand that the women who aren’t doing this are treating them exactly how they treat friends. I’ve friendzoned and been friendzoned throughout my life, and some of those friendships have turned into vulnerable, platonic relationships I deeply value. What makes me so mad on here is that a lot of these guys don’t understand that they are devaluing…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 11:31 PM
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But then you see these dudes who are average and sometimes less than average managing to be promiscuous and popular. Personality really does mean a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 10:13 PM
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I really really like this comment because this sub often doesn’t peel back the layers of female sexual attraction and write off women being attracted to guys who aren’t conventionally hot as being about money or material goods while ignoring the guys who only really have charisma going for them who get laid a lot. I dated a drug dealer a long time ago, but we started dating before he came to college and got into the drug scene. He was tall but built with a dainty, feminine structure and did not …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 08:55 PM
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Not really. If the intellect/ cleverness isn’t there, then I have zero interest. My definition of hot also goes off course from conventional taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:54 PM
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This is pretty spot on. The majority of women I know have self esteem issues, and this definitely includes myself. When I’ve been on OLD in the past, sure I get hit on a lot but it’s usually from guys I’m not interested in, and TBH it doesn’t even feel like it counts since it’s not IRL. I spent a lot of my youth believing I’m lower quality because I rarely (and almost never) have gotten the experience of a guy showing interest IRL. OP is very misguided. I think women can recognize that they attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:37 PM
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I try to keep this in mind arguing with them and have managed to get through to a few. However, the ones who are straight up hateful just aren’t going to ever return the empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 03:08 AM
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Women are naturally attracted to masculine traits, but the expression of those traits aren’t limited to looks and stereotypical dominance. I think another thing is that women can be attracted to certain masculine traits but not others. For instance, Spock was a sex symbol back in the day but he wasn’t the traditional man’s man like Kirk. However, he had the cold, controlled rational thing going on, and that was (and still is) pretty attractive. Different expressions of maximizing attract differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:09 AM
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I mean, they don’t need an excuse to not want to date high n count women. If you have standards, you don’t need to apologize for them. The reason the pair bonding talk is dehumanizing is because it implies they can’t connect with anyone, including people who wouldn’t care about their n count. In terms of finding out, I don’t think you ever will. Finding out isn’t the point. You don’t need to date people with lifestyles you don’t like, but I think it’s a good practice to remember that there are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:01 AM
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I’ll agree it’s not fair, but I think it’s a misconception all women get an over abundance of attention, especially outside of the OLD world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:02 PM
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Another thing I notice is that the narratives are very similar to each other and ones that I recognize so I assume they’re not lying, but they all involve the same kind of women. I have a theory that these guys are all going for women in the same behavioral group and are unaware that they’re screwing themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 10:41 PM
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The big problem here are assumptions made without any empathy or consideration. I think a lot of the angrier people on here lack the ability to identify with people, men or women, unless they are in a similar boat. You see them make fun of promiscuous women with “daddy issues” but none of them ever express empathy or wishing the woman hadn’t had something happen in childhood to lead to unhealthy habits. There’s a lot of selfish anger here that doesn’t leave room for understanding others. It inse…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 09:58 PM
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I was about to comment this. There was actually a study that linked having a gay brother to higher fertility in women, though I’m not sure how valid it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 09:08 PM
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This is such a strong point no one talks about when discussing female (or male) promiscuity. Did the person have a curiosity phase, or is this a coping mechanism? The whole bonding thing is ridiculous, spiteful rhetoric used to dehumanize other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 09:07 PM
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equal pay abortion rights Hmmm. On one hand we see equality/ an important medical procedure and on the other we see sex. The scale of significance is not balanced here. You are out of touch with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:23 PM
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If this is the case, then that means men have to stay virgins to to emotionally bond. Also, that’s a stupid notion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:21 PM
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Computer science or engineering. As a STEM woman with little knowledge in either, something gets me wet about a hot dorky guy who could teach me about computers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 06:14 AM
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This answer gets my vote lol. I don’t even know if I’m marriage material at 27.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 06:12 AM
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TBH, I think I come onto this sub to take out my grad school rage and sexual frustration on entitled misogynistic ass-fucks. “Wah wah women have choices now, and they aren’t choosing me.” Fuck off with that. I want all of these men to know truly that if they think oppression is the only way to get a woman, they are probably the problem. It also enrages me that they think dating is a cake walk for women and that the only thing we cry about is getting pumped and dumped by hot guys. We get screwed …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 06:08 AM
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I think the idea of virginity is popular with people who are be very religious because it gives them a chance to experience sex that makes them feel less guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:55 AM
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Okay, so I have a question for you. Why do you feel like you’re entitled to sex with women? Or maybe a specific woman? This isn’t about fairness it’s about people getting to choose who they want to have sex with, and if you’re not it then you’re not it. This is universal. If a woman you didn’t want to bang propositioned you, you turned her down, and she yelled at you about it being unfair, you’d probably be like “piss off.” Most normal people’s reaction would be that. So with that, why do you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:52 AM
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I think what these people mean is “dating is a miserable draining experience for everyone” bit with more finger pointing at women. The fact of the matter is that most of us get screwed over or hurt with dating or courting. It doesn’t matter if you’re a man, woman, or in between. It’s a vulnerable matter where people put themselves out there hoping someone says “who you are is more than enough for me” but usually ends with the opposite. The key is to not blame people for not wanting you unless th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:47 AM
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I think you think I’m one of those people who think that female and male anatomy are the same thing, and I assure you I’m not. I had one of my more extremist liberal friends in college insist that a study was done that proved that women could get as strong as men without enhancement drugs and I rolled my eyes. However, I used to be a die-hard “there are only men and women because Biology” kind of individual but I some things written by scientists discussing sexual dichotomy and defining sex base…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:35 AM
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I’m not saying every time a woman doesn’t get a promotion that it’s sexism. I’m saying women I know have been treated in a discriminatory way that clearly is different from male coworkers. Hell, some of the people doing the discriminating are women. I don’t think a lot of guys on here understand that when a woman starts to wonder if she’s being treated differently based on her sex that it’s usually after a long list of other things. We don’t want to think we are experiencing passive sexism becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:09 AM
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First off addressing the sex Ed issue, I also grew up in a red state and a part of the Midwestern Bible Belt no less. I did not receive a terribly adequate education on the topic of sex. I don’t think we should promote or discourage promiscuity but rather discuss the emotional consequences of a lot of casual sex with students in high school (and not just girls). I believe it was a documentary on the Dutch I watched that discussed how they handle sex education and open dialogue with teenagers. Te…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 09:45 PM
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Idk wtf this is because I love sex. Even if I don’t get to cum, I still love it. The sounds, the tastes, the sensations. A lot of women I know love it but if it’s with someone who is dynamic and responsive and very involved. They don’t have to be an 8 but they have to fuck like their life depends on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:53 PM
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This is the real winning comment here. People are innately terrible and decent. Do your best to avoid the garbage ones and meet great ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 06:20 PM
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This is exactly what I want lol. I don’t mind being the bread winner at all. He just has to work hard and love what he does and bring what he can to the table. Also, I was group “cougar” in college. The majority of guys I find myself sexually drawn to are younger by 1-3 years. If he can look good, clean the house, and hold intellectual conversations/ fast paced banter with me, I could not give less of a shit what he makes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:13 PM
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First off, women have steadily been gaining in some of the STEM professions. Engineering and computer sciences and physics are still lagging for women but in life sciences, chemistry, and mathematics there is approximately a half divide between men and women. You made an excellent point about why women aren’t in more positions like CEOs, and that is because the glass ceiling wasn’t abolished during the 70s for any woman. It slowly is decreasing, but sex-based imbalances in leadership positions t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 05:15 PM
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First off, women have steadily been gaining in some of the STEM professions. Engineering and computer sciences and physics are still lagging for women but in life sciences, chemistry, and mathematics there is approximately a half divide between men and women. You made an excellent point about why women aren’t in more positions like CEOs, and that is because the glass ceiling wasn’t abolished during the 70s for any woman. It slowly is decreasing, but sex-based imbalances in leadership positions t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 04:41 PM
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I don’t think women or men really think of things in terms of “maybe they had a bad day” or “maybe the other person is just shy.” I think most of us are so burnt out/ drained/ uncomfortable with dating at this point that we don’t see what we want and just say “NEXT.” I think when we all stop feeling obligated to have to find someone and just do it Euro style, we will be better off. From what I understand of European dating, they meet someone they like, get to know them, and put their energy into…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 11:54 PM
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Here’s my issue with this argument: if you want to boil down human behavior, we are more nurture than nature in my observations. Granted, I do think that the reproductive dynamic probably makes women more inclined to prefer resource providers just because offspring with more attention/ nurturing are more likely to survive than not and having resources means she can give that. However, my problem is that we haven’t really encountered this dynamic before where women have more personal autonomy and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 11:14 PM
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I’ll admit it’s an unfair thing probably. I actually think that women tend to be more discriminatory towards men they perceive as boring than they are about looks. For example, let’s say you have a slightly above average guy who has his life together pretty well and has a lot of other attractive features but comes off as boring or hard to engage; his “sexual rival” is someone who isn’t a complete shit show but isn’t as put together and might be average to slightly below average but he is drippin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 09:13 PM
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I do think all humans go through a period in their early twenties where they have to really evaluate what they bring to the table and what that can buy them on the dating market. However, I think men are just as guilty as women of not wanting their “equals.” I can’t tell you how many guys that I met in my late teens and early twenties who were falling all over themselves for girls who to be frank were out of their caliber while ignoring more average women. People on here never shut up about how …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:08 PM
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I’ve been trying to say this for a long time. People think this is the new normal, but once our generation realizes that our expectation for men to be the bread wonder is just conditioning from our upbringing by Boomers, we will start to be more comfortable with female bread winners. I for one do not mind being the bread winner so long as he doesn’t see me as a caretaker and works hard himself to bring money to the table. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with men having those expectations ei…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:02 PM
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I would have geared it more towards “people don’t know how to prioritize what they want versus what they need.” I think that in itself is what trips most people up. The unfortunate nature of things is that no matter who you date, they will never be that ideal person in your head and that ideal person in your head probably isn’t the best gauge for what you need. I think this is why dating feels impossible, at least to me. I could meet a guy who shares my interests but is kind of a manchild and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 03:57 PM
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You’re joking, right? I don’t think you all understand how exhausting you are to please. You have to be thin but not just thin but thin in a way that can compete with really hot girls because otherwise you’re invisible to guys. You have to do you make up just right, you have to do your hair just right. You have to sweat about the impossible Madonna-Whore complex where if you’re too frigid more sexually provocative women will outcompete you but if you sleep with a guy too soon he dismisses you. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 03:18 PM
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I’m not saying it’s morally sound, but some women will take a guy for a ride if she can tell he’s an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 07:00 PM
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That’s always been the point of the RP. It’s about whipping men into a misogynistic frenzy as a response to modern female autonomy. Her sexual autonomy is his enemy because now that she gets a choice she isn’t choosing him. They don’t seem to understand that they aren’t owed a romantic partner. They don’t seem to understand that the amount of work women have to put in to attracting men is now being expected of him because in his mind she should automatically want him without him having to put an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 05:16 PM
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This is something I’ve thought about as an ex-Catholic going through these posts. The amount of sex shaming on here is unreal, and the sentiment is definitely not extended towards promiscuous men. They don’t want a girlfriend or a wife, they want someone to be their trauma bond victim who doesn’t know they deserve to be treated better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 04:53 PM
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TBH, a man’s mannerisms even outside of the general idea of charisma are huge. A six who doesn’t care what anyone thinks and is entirely unbothered about how people perceive him but still manages to demonstrate basic social awareness is a thousand times hotter than a super insecure eight who tries too hard to make you think that he’s great or tears other people down to make himself look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 09:57 AM
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Mood. They think dating is shooting fish in a barrel for every women when some of us have never so much as had a drink bought for us. I sometimes feel kind of sad that I am stuck in the point in time where the only way to get asked out on a date is through a dating app. These guys spin up fantasies where we (women) constantly have average looking guys falling all over us while we bang Chad, but they fail to understand that most Chads want women who are equally attractive as them and that a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 11:55 AM
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It’s only once they start nearing their 30s that marriage turns out to be nigh impossible sweats about having 2.5 years left
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 11:41 AM
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I don’t know why we can’t come to the conclusion that men and women are pretty much on par in most things or why so many of you think we’re going to be triggered when you point out that we can be just as garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 11:23 AM
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She can close her legs for awhile and think about things. Okay, Dad lol What I’m saying is that who in their right minds would want McDonald’s when they could have five star food if they could afford it? My main problem with your argument is that Becky does get a lot of the blame in these circles while Chad gets away Scott-free just because every man wants to be Chad. What makes me roll my eyes is that you’re all willing to give Chad the free pass because you know if you were in his situation yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 04:01 PM
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Maybe because if Chad stopped fucking Becky and stuck with Stacy, the entire world system constructed by the red pill wouldn’t be a thing? I don’t believe any of this is a thing, but when I look at the reasoning behind the dynamic that red pill claims is at play, I notice that all of this is hinged on Chad banging Becky and making Brad irrelevant. The other thing I don’t understand is why Chad would want to have sex with Becky. If he wants sex, there are plenty of slutty Stacys to go around. Hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 09:21 PM
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I’m also interested in hearing what your thoughts are on why red pill guys don’t look at Chad as being equally irresponsible in this entire equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 03:45 AM
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Idk. I don’t make these rationalizations. Trauma fucks up people’s thinking. I’m just explaining to you the thought process. And to be quite honest, you would be surprised at how common narcissists and assholes are. However, I’d assume the same for women. At the end of the day, I think we are just as terrible as we’ve always been but now we no longer get married by obligation. When you think about it, it’s liberating to know you don’t have to wake up in a shattered illusion one day when you real…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 03:42 AM
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As long as all of the brunt isn’t on me, I honestly don’t care as long as he works hard and brings to the table what he can.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 01:13 AM
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Once again, I’m saying that the choices she gave us were hot POS or average POS. But even if women decided that no man is better than an average man, it’s their life choice. What I’m also trying to highlight to you is that by the commenter’s tone and words, to her there probably is no non-abusive guy. Maybe I’m being confusing because I haven’t specified this but I’m breaking down what she’s saying based on my own observations of female dating issues. She’s had so many bad experiences she doesn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 01:02 AM
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I’m sure as hell resigned to it considering I’ve only ever dated one guy who had the potential to make more than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 12:43 AM
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That’s probably right. But I think the women getting the degree isn’t the issue and more the sense of unfair attitudes towards educated men that is the issue. Yes, it is common in college educated women, but I think society would be better pressed to push women towards being okay as the bread maker instead of saying women getting degrees is an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 12:13 AM
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Dude... I’m not justifying sleeping with hot guys who are going to lose and abuse you. I’m saying that if you are presented with the choice to be used and abused by a hot guy or an average guy, it’s the same thing as being given a vomit-worthy shot with a chaser versus without. The only logical answer in this situation is to just not date any guy and invest in a decent dildo. FWIW, I don’t think all men are abusive, and I certainly have met men ranging from the ugly caliber all the way up to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 12:03 AM
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Idk, man. I've felt pressure to stay thin since I hit puberty, but maybe it's a me thing. Even when I enter relationships, I continue to monitor my weight because I feel like it's negligent, unthoughtful, and selfish to not try to maintain sexual appeal for your partner after the honeymoon phase, regardless of sex. It was a discrepancy in my first relationship because I tried to stay thin and hot for him, but he didn't appear to care to return the sentiment; I just chalk it up to us wanting and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 10:34 PM
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I'm not saying I 100% agree with her, but you are missing the point. She's not saying getting used and abused by someone mega hot is better than a nice normal relationship with an average man. She's saying a lot of women have been used and abused by average dudes, so if we're going to be used and abused it might as well be by the hotter guy because we at least get something out of it. ​ I think when people sum up one sex as intrinsically having traits (women being hypergamous/ men being purely s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 10:20 PM
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You're welcome! That's the point of the sub, or it should be at least. I feel like I've learned a lot about struggles men face and hope it has made me a more empathetic person as a whole. I guess, I have seen a whole variety of situations that both match the stereotypes made on here (and FDS) as well as plenty of situations that are the complete opposite. I think the biggest variable in the dating arena is how you present yourself which determines who you attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 09:50 PM
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We have to do it every day at work. Contrary to the belief on here that we can just bat our lashes all the way to the top, we sometimes don’t get taken seriously in our fields or workplaces and have to put in blood, sweat, and tears in order to be seen as competent, let alone thrive. Idk why people on here think a lot of us are looking for super rich providers and an easy life when the big thing for women in this generation has been pursuing careers and defining our lives with passions instead o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 06:15 PM
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To be fair, there are a lot of women like this too (though I admit it’s more predominate in men). In general, I think a big part of the problem is that the millennial and Gen Z generations across the boards probably have more self esteem issues than their forebearers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 05:50 PM
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I think that’s a one dimensional way of looking at it. What about the fact that we are a generation who was raised to basically be wish fulfillment by our parents who never went to college, married their first serious relationship, and had to raise children they had in their early 20s? I don’t hear this discussed a lot, but when I was growing up my mother always said she wanted me to find someone someday but that I needed to put my education and a career first. I don’t disagree with her, but I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 11:05 PM
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As someone who attended nine years of Catholic school, this is all too real lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 09:22 PM
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No, it’s because he’s a semi-intimidating nerd with eclectic interests, intensity, and ambition. He is more socially inadequate than I would prefer but the level of loyalty and devotion he shows people once he decides he likes them, the fact that he is strange but in an intriguing and enjoyable way, and his sense of discipline are all extremely attractive traits. Plus, he has a nice smile when it’s genuine, and he strikes me as the type who is stiff and formal in general but an absolute animal i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 08:08 AM
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You wreck your life so hard into the ground that it forces you to have to pull your head out of your ass or watch as your future burns to the ground while you literally kill yourself slowly. I’ll be one year sober May 4. I didn’t think that I could do it, but I did it. With a lot of help from my parents at first as well as friends. But you take it day by day. You’re bored first but once your brain chemicals balance out, you start to pursue old hobbies that drinking replaced. You start to become …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:39 AM
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It is April 25 as I read this and am thinking “huh, guess I managed to dodge it for a year?”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:23 AM
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It depends on what part of my cycle in/ how much sleep I’ve gotten because those affect my water retention, break outs, etc. Amidst a hormonal breakout? Probably a 5.5, maybe a 5 if it’s really bad. About a week after my period ends when my skin clears up and my water weight has dissipated? Maybe a 6-7. At my best when I’m healthy with few blemishes, I’m bold enough to say an 8. On average, I’d say I’m probably a 6-6.5. I am not the hottest woman in the room but I manage fine and carry other att…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:20 AM
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Ah the “ring by spring” phenomenon. Gotta love religious restriction of personal sexual expression that leads to confusing love, lust, and one’s life direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:12 AM
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I mean, in all honesty, I have a bit of a weakness for foreign men. Give me two guys who are about the same level of physical attractiveness with equally attractive personalities but one is an American and the other British, and I’ll choose the latter every time. However, it’s incredibly hard to fake an accent effectively. I know one guy who does it well but it’s the flip side where he’s a Brit living in America who got tired of people asking him to say different words so he perfected his Americ…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:01 AM
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Dwight is none of the above lol. Dwight not only bangs a few hot chicks but even has the pickiness to turn his nose up at a few. He also doesn’t demonstrate self-fatalizing views of his own ability to find someone, and while definitely in the realm of sexist from time to time, he doesn’t appear to disdain women or blame them for his life problems. 10/10 would fuck Dwight. Maybe date lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 06:57 AM
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I’ve said this before but the “nice guy” likes to think he’s a better person than the “bad boy” but the truth is that they’re both not really that great of people and that the main difference is that the bad boy markets himself well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 06:50 AM
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I want a genuine connection with someone I can eventually be vulnerable with and the companionship that comes with it. I also want sex but not just sex but consistent sex with someone I’m deeply attracted to who I have a genuine chemistry with in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 02:49 AM
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Yes. This will be unpopular, but I experienced it which makes me regret it. I fell in love at 16 with my first ever boyfriend and didn’t date around or learn how to casually date. It was an intense relationship from the start which set “normal” for me. I had a habit from my late teens into my twenties of stumbling from toxic LTR to toxic LTR because I couldn’t just learn how to take things slow/ lightly. Even when I had breaks in between relationships, besides making out at parties while drunk I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 11:46 PM
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I know everyone here thinks the friend zone is a woman using a guy for validation while stringing him along, but that ain’t it. To me, the friend zone is when two people meet and they hit it off with great interactions but one really genuinely appreciates them only as a friend while the other wants more. The friend zone requires actual friendship where they both reciprocate giving in their friendship, but one is motivated to keep a strong platonic relationship while the other is working towards …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 11:33 PM
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I think what makes men and women losers is fairly similar, but I think the culture and context are really important. In general, shared traits include living with their parents due to a situation that doesn’t have to do with hard luck, not taking care of their body, not prioritizing adult things like a career, never leaving their party phase, needing people to take care of them/ always support them, and blatant insecurity. I do think there’s more pressure in the Midwest/ the South for women to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 11:24 PM
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As many times as I’ve argued with you on here, I will say that the time spent between two people is a key point for one to become attracted to the other if they aren’t initially. However, I think whether or not the less attractive person gets a chance to grow on the other person is hinged on how they approach the situation. If they come at the other person wanting romance immediately, it will probably not happen. However, if they can casually let a rapport grow between them and not try to push i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 01:39 AM
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Agreed. We are all humans who live with and spend time with other humans every day (unless one is a complete hermit). We meet a menagerie of personalities in people in all shapes, sizes, genders, ethnicities, and lifestyles. You are correct that these people are getting too much credit in the comment above because at the end of the day it seems like this attitude is mainly centered around dating which tells you if sex is a part of the equation then they just completely condense people down to a …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 01:24 AM
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I consider myself mostly independent, and after having dated a few very dependent guys, I will not be with someone who isn’t independent for the most part as well. However, I do want someone who will be willing to discuss and compromise on things if need be. They need to have compatible desires (ieg, no kids) with me, but I don’t want someone who needs to discuss every little decision with me. I don’t plan on a main joint account. My ideal would be for us to have separate accounts and then put a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:02 AM
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Eh. I’ve had really different experiences than a lot of people on here I guess. I do think we have a narrower criteria for attraction, but I don’t think it’s so much about human biology as it is about Disney. We get sold the “perfect for me Prince Charming” narrative from a young age, and I think it’s hard for a lot of us to de-wire that kind of mentality. No two women’s’ Prince Charmings will be the same, but that doesn’t mean she is willing to settle for any less than the perfect image in her …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 05:36 AM
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If the moments of romance/ humor/ fun/ chemistry were fairly consistent, then A. If not, then neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 04:56 AM
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C- The weird guy who is both average looking but strangely appealing due to physical and behavioral quirks who is extremely smart and has compatible quirks with my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 04:44 AM
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Education of course. If I had the same anxiety to perform academically pushing me to have sex, I would have been a binge-fucker who’d go two weeks without so much a wank and then five cocks in the same night. I graduated with honors in two similar STEM fields and a drinking problem in case any of you out there is wondering.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 04:39 AM
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I was about to veto this until you got to the part about how there is variance between women. I’ll admire Mr. Sexy Party guy from a distance, but I’m going to go home with the bespectacled, introverted best friend who clearly doesn’t want to be at the party and is pushing for an intellectual conversation while thinking about the book he left at home. Those are the kinds of guys that I want to fuck until sun up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 04:34 AM
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My answer is literally “yes” because regardless of your choice as a woman, the men on this sub who are in the hard red zone will find a reason to crucify you for it unless it involves giving they themselves a chance. “Women are solipsists” is a projection of their inner microcosm where everything revolves around whether or not their dick is being sucked or someone is validating them the way their mother never did.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 04:03 AM
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Depends on my life stage. High school? None because I was a part of the geek zone, and I was the only one out of them who actually dated. When I was in college, I had one good friend (we’re still good friends) who was a serial monogamist who tended to end crappy relationships with a cheating phase. All of my other close female friends were monogamous and didn’t cheat to my knowledge. They were like me and usually found other creative ways to obliterate shitty relationships or got cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 03:58 AM
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I will say the type of awkwardness affects it, and I’ve seen men of varying degrees of attractiveness repel women if they’re the wrong kind of awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 03:53 AM
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You know what’s also gay? Giving a shit that people treat their pets like children. Be happy our generation is learning how to treat non-human creatures with a sense of empathy. In regards to what you said and what I said being the same thing, they’re not. Any form of capitalism pushing woke rhetoric is just capitalism doing what capitalism does which is making a dollar. The woke part is not what is out to leach you, it’s the rampant corporate abuse of workers that is allowed in our particular c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 01:35 AM
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Idk man, coming home to cats that are definitely not human children seems pretty tight. With that being said, I think you would see more people living “the traditional way” if the economy and affording housing were not in the way. I don’t think it has anything to do with “woke big business capitalism” and everything to do with “fucking your average Joe out of comfortable living to save a corporate buck” capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 11:24 PM
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This reminds me of one of those “Squad is all here” pics of a bunch of dweebs dressed up like they’re ready for some kind of con; they all have descriptors at the bottom of the pic that includes things their character likes, and one of the dudes is “weed and girls with low self esteem.” I am convinced that TRP is 90% made up of guys like that lol. The funny thing is that TRP didn’t invent going after chicks with low self esteem to get laid, but it sure acts like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 11:09 PM
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No lol I’ll never forget the story my older friend in high school told me about this one guy who joined choir the year before. In her words, “at the beginning of his first choir period, all of us girls were talking amongst each other about him and how exciting it was that the new student was pretty cute. And then he ruined it the moment he opened his mouth.” It doesn’t matter how attractive a guy is because if he’s a creep, doesn’t respect himself, or doesn’t respect others, it will always show.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 09:58 PM
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Nah. If they don’t get the cream of the crop, they get the next layer below the cream which contrary to popular belief on here is still highly appealing to women. EDIT: Downvote me all you guys want, but that ain’t gonna change the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 09:22 PM
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It definitely is. Who would’ve know paying attention to your appearance and understanding what makes you look good would help you be more attractive to people in general?!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 07:07 PM
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Part of my hope is that in the continuation of cultural progress, the “women are wonderful” concept as well as the “pussy pass” will start to fade from public consciousness. If we as women would like to achieve full social, economic, and legal equality with men, we have to all receive the same exact treatment with no complaints. Women are neither below nor above men. We are not the dumber or shallower sex, but we are also not the kinder or gentler or more loving one. Neither are men. Sex relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:10 PM
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I really subscribe to the idea that there’s a certain level of attractiveness in people in general that can be used as a “get out of jail free card” that will often allow people to get away with things or have an easier time. They’ve done studies showing both sexes are treated with preference/ have an easier time in the work force if they’re attractive. In terms of the ability to get away with things, unattractive female teachers who’ve been accused of sleeping with male students tend to have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:41 PM
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With that being said, I was reading somewhere that physically fit women are still often baffled by their male counterparts who are “out of shape” or don’t work out because their physical strength is still vastly greater. The disparity in physical strength between the sexes is noticeable even in the “creepy guys.” And as shitty as this sounds, sometimes the tall physically fit guy who is not that interested in you or only slightly interested in you because he gets laid a lot is a lot less intimid…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:11 PM
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I love how a lot of the guys on here rub their hands together thinking the super hot party girls who used to swing from Chad to Chad in college are the ones who “hit the wall” and “suffer or end up settling” when they’re usually the ones who get the first pic in who they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:28 AM
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Always upvote for cat pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:26 AM
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Have you guys ever considered making a red pill fight club because it might be worthwhile?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:20 AM
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The internet weaponizes frustration easily. It’s no wonder whole communities have been formed by mobs on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:17 AM
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Wait a second, you can’t just come onto this sub and suggest that objectification is wrong regardless of sex!/s Seriously, though. I think some of the men on here think that is suggesting that they not sexually objectify us means that we’re invalidating their experiences of objectification which is not true at all. I don’t want to use someone anymore than I want or be used, and I feel like most rational, morally sound adults will feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:16 AM
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Eh, some women. Some of us are deeply uncomfortable with the idea of using our sexuality to coerce or manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 01:16 AM
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Oh ouch let me go get butter for that burn./s Considering the fact that studies have shown women not only have a better gauge of objective attractiveness of themselves but of men too, I’m going to say my looksmatches were throwing their rope too far. But no one on here likes to talk about that because it’s non-validating of the experiences of men on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:59 PM
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Exactly. If there isn’t good reason for the action, then why is the action exciting?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 02:40 AM
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Then what is the point of any of this? I see a lot of guys on here outraged about not being able to have a woman, but why would anyone settle with someone who is not attached or not sexually attracted to them? And if this is the case for the majority of marriages, would we all not have realized that and given up? The reason the men on here are outraged are because they have probably seen genuinely happy couples consisting of average to slightly above average people who love each other and are se…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 02:39 AM
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Let me rolls my eyes harder at you. Do you not think men don’t have the save epiphany? Do you not think men stop chasing crazy hot chicks after a certain point because they get tired of the same old thing? This isn’t about desperation it’s about getting sick of something and deciding to try something new that usually ends up working because both ends bring stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 01:41 AM
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I read one of The Rogue Files books last summer that was pretty dumb but hot. Keeper of the Heart is a personal gem because it was my first full blown erotica novel. In general, I’m a bodice-ripper kind of woman and will eat up anything that is approximately Jane Austen era. Partially why I enjoy Bridgerton (tv series, but would maybe read the books) so much 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 11:38 PM
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Physically: -5’7 to 6’3 range -Thin, lean build that is relatively fit -Broad chest but not cartoonishly so -Head full of hair that will never leave -Can do a devilish smirk -Glasses (it’s a weird fetish) -Nice face -clean shaven or some stubble -sideburns (another weird fetish) -Caucasian or Asian Personality/ interests/ behavior -Independent -Can give and receive space; not clingy -Not easily jealous -Not controlling/ manipulative -Has his own life and lets me have my own life -Passionate abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 11:31 PM
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Let me let you in on a little secret: in general, women tend to love erotica. Short, tall, cute, sexy, hot, not hot, outgoing, shy, old, young, stay at home moms, career women, all kinds of different races, all kinds of different languages. Harlequin is Pornhub for us. Some of read them just to get off, some of us (like myself) read them to get off but also because they’re often hilariously bad (like porn, which I sometimes watch for the comedy value). In terms of differences in male and female …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:51 PM
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And promiscuous men aren’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 09:03 PM
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Women aren’t strong or ruthless/ depraved enough to kill/ oppress men to establish dominance If you’ve ever hear the Shakespearean quote “hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”, imagine that put into a systematic pull. I’ve seen articles about women murdering their pimps, abusers, and rapists in a rage and going to jail for it. We don’t have the physical strength to take on a man in hand to hand combat if he has an equal amount of fighting/ combat skills, but we’re still human and humans are ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 08:06 PM
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More like I’ve had my parents try to harangue me about how I need to give guys outside of my type a chance, such as jocks/ military men/ cowboys (was my type in high school though lol), or the “Chad” pharmacist my sister tried to set me up with who got on my nerves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 07:45 PM
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Here’s a hot take no one talks about: it’s not about the guy having other options, it’s about how desperation or love bombing or over-interest signal that a guy is more interested in having a girlfriend than he is in having you yourself as his girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 07:41 PM
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I always enjoy your comments because you are trying to be a voice of reason, but it’s very hard to get through to angry people. A lot of these guys want to believe in the wall because it means karma favored them, but the truth is that some people hit a wall and some people don’t and that individual journeys/ situations can have a multitude of results. It’s easier for them to think their day is coming to get to watch women who rejected them fall from grace, but the truth is that the women who rej…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 07:37 PM
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I think a lot of these dudes think that young immature women think the same as women in their late twenties and beyond which is funny. They assume that we don’t get tired of a dude’s shit as long as he’s hot, which is so off that it reminds me a lot of these dudes either do not have female friends or are specifically going after young women who haven’t learned yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 07:34 PM
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Not to mention, people tend to think of peaking in a very two dimensional way. Are you just peaking in popularity with members of the opposite sex who are attractive? Are you a smash hit with average people? Maybe you’re peaking in terms of personal happiness, or where you are in your career is peaking. I look back on my life and see a few small peaks, but they’re all mostly in different mountain ranges. I think it’s healthy to think of life as being multiple peaks because we tend to get hung up…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 07:25 PM
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This is the right answer. I could see gene therapy addressing expression of certain genes being a thing, such as ways to down regulate sex hormone genes but that in itself would fuck a lot of physiological systems
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 07:13 PM
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Race, gender, life back story, sexual orientation. None of it even matters if you can not fuck up our country and be a skilled negotiator.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 07:05 PM
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Say it louder for the people in the back.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:58 PM
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TBH, I find cute virginal guys who haven’t gotten laid only because they’re shy to try. Or guys who don’t have a lot of experience for similar reasons. However, it’s not a big deal to me as long you weren’t the campus cum nozzle. Contrary to what guys on here think, most women don’t find men getting around to be hot. It’s not as potent of a deal break in general, but we still don’t really like whores for the same reason guys don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:51 PM
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Certainly, but the progression into self awareness and conceptual thinking makes it extremely hard to accurately gauge what is “animal behavior” and cultural priming. The laws of the jungle applied to us in our early early forms but what we have become now is more a product of our own decision making than it is anything driven by untainted animal instinct. The advent of agriculture especially catalyzed this. A lot of phenomenon we see in “dating and mating” are products of our current culture an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 05:27 PM
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Looks younger than age 5’9” lack of facial hair physically fit problematic family background My Type by Saint Motel begins to play Seriously though, not all women find these things to be turn offs, I assure you. I was infamous in my college friend groups for being the one who dated guys younger than me or younger looking than me. I haven’t really met a lot of guys I’ve been attracted to since I’ve left college precisely because a lot of them end up gaining more than a little weight, growing a be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 09:34 AM
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I hate it because it gives a bunch of angry guys a reason to shit on “modern women” and to long for the older days where we married the first guy we fucked and were SAHMs. I honestly don’t even care that much about the gaslighting or psychological abuse tactics used by men subscribing to this movement to get laid because people who are abusive in nature will figure out how to do it right eventually, regardless of TRP or not. The reason I come on here to argue about TRP is because it almost alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:47 AM
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Actually, some studies have showed that men tend to overestimate their attractiveness while women tend to underestimate or be on point. It also showed that women tend to be more on point when rating others when looking at objective attractiveness (like symmetry) than their male peers, regardless of where they are at on the attractiveness scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 08:30 PM
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Catholic school, is that you calling from the recesses of my memory???
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 08:16 PM
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Not really, no. Fake niceness is nauseating regardless of sex, but women are conditioned to have to work towards it because most of us were raised to avoid being “the bitch” since no one likes the bitch. We get away with it more because we’re better at it because we’re raised to have to be better at it. The only reason nice guys get flack is because they are extremely transparent about what they’re doing. I’ve noticed women who never got the hang of fake niceness get the same kind of flack, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:13 PM
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If we could just copy paste this all over this sub, that would be great. Unfortunately, it’ll get picked to death by semantics because everyone wants their personal situation to be validated with statistical support. The ugly truth that really isn’t that hard to accept is that no matter how you spin it, hot people are always going to have the sexual and romantic advantage regardless of their sex. A lot of the guys on here keep talking about how women in their “looks-match” range think they’re en…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 03:06 PM
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Everything in this comment represents why I can’t do OLD. There’s nothing interesting about just swiping on someone and matching with them because it takes away all mystery. My theory is that people who are compatible and would be attracted to each other IRL are easily passing by each other in OLD (even if they manage to get a date or two) because it makes dating so stale and forced-feeling. I think it’s easier for people to fall in love or be open to it when they aren’t walking into a situation…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:58 AM
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The point she’s making is not virtue signaling. It’s saying that not all of us do shitty things like use our male friends. If men do the same things for men she’s done for her male friends, the big picture here is that her friendship with them is just as loving and giving to her male friends as most men are in their friendships with each other. It’s saying that contrary to popular belief on here, we are capable of friendship and not being parasites. I’m sorry so many of you have had the experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 03:13 AM
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So if we buy you an ice cream cone every once in awhile and help you move, will it be enough? If we talk to you about girl problems and comfort you when things go wrong and provide any advice we can when you have issues, is that going to be enough? For many men I know, this is enough. For the men on here? I don’t think anything short of sex or romance will ever be seen as adequate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 02:33 AM
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I do not want friends of any thing specific like sex but rather just kind of befriend people with whom I have a good rapport and shared interests/ goals/ philosophies. TBH, a lot of my friendships resulted from both ends kind of making casual back and forth conversations with each other or just proximity. One of my best friends was in choir and drama club with me in high school (yes, he is straight), so I worked with him a lot which resulted in us growing close but never romantic. Another close …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 02:23 AM
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Ding ding ding we have a winner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 11:22 PM
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Ah, alright that seems a little safer. Well, I hope you succeed in your partner search. It’s some torrid dating waters out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:11 AM
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I mean, power to you for knowing what you want. As long as you’re always 100% honest with any future suitors about what you want and he agrees to it, it’s your life. I grew up with a mother who wanted to stay home but couldn’t because we we lower middle class to middle class with four total human mouths to feed (and multiple non-human mouths). I myself never ever even considered being a stay at home wife seeing as I had always wanted be something, usually some kind of scientist or medical profes…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 05:42 AM
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I mean, fair enough in regards to feminism being about a choice. I’m not housewife material, but I won’t berate someone else from going for it as long as they respect my choice to work. I suppose how the cost is cut between two (or more) people is something they have to discuss. I’m not terribly keen on having children and probably won’t at this rate, but maybe some couples want to both be working and have kids at the same time? Or maybe some can’t afford for one partner to stay home? I know som…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 05:04 AM
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Oh trust me I tried and was told they can see me once a month so I said forget it. The kind of emotional turbulence I’m under needs someone twice a month at this point, and because I’m not at the “kill myself” stage, it’s abundantly clear that I’m not a priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 01:23 AM
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And you’re right, I’m being a nihilist. I can tell by the kind of intensity in my feelings that we’re nearing that time of the month. I have PMDD which I’m hoping to reduce by getting an implant this next month. When those hormones start to roll in my body, I become angry, inconsolable, and distraught in ways I find embarrassing. I’m peripherally aware of my own embarrassment at how much my reply has blown up and how emotionally I’m talking to everyone commenting to this. In truth, when I’m not …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 10:19 PM
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I laughed out loud because my good friend on Reddit will see this and probably message me “yes” since it’s our running joke I’m autistic. I have taken tests on it, and the answer is likely no. I don’t remotely meet the symptoms. I think I had a very low social IQ growing up, but I went on to have what I’d say is an above average social life and be fairly adept in social situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 10:14 PM
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I took one look at the numbers and left the page. These are coastal numbers where that kind of pay won’t get you Shit for a living situation. In the Midwest, you’re lucky to find a job that pays $40K or more starting out of college, and you’re lucky to be making over $50K after five years of working someplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 10:10 PM
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I’m like a 6-7. It’s hard to find everything together. A lot of men I meet are needy or act like simps or come on too strong in the beginning, and I just don’t like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 10:06 PM
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I’d like them to have hair that’s not going anywhere anytime soon, not be fat, not be needy/ over emotional, and be a morally sound person. They don’t have to be mega hot or making a bunch of money. I just want someone relatively attractive and who is independent financially, emotionally, and psychologically.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 10:01 PM
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I don’t share this sentiment I suppose. I believe that if we want things to improve, we have to die trying to improve them. I’ve seen great bad and great good from people and genuinely believe my life is worth something if I spend it trying to make a difference. We went from slavery to fighting for equality in America, so there were some steps forward so that means we have the capacity to change if we let ourselves and if people always push forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:57 PM
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It won’t make a difference if I don’t get into a lab in May and never get the chance to look after COVID lifts sometime this summer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:54 PM
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I know you’re right, I’m just in one of those premenstrual pissant moods today I can tell. I haven’t been in a relationship in two years, and I don’t meet men who interest me anymore. And before anyone jumps me, I’m not only looking at “Chads with money.” I don’t even like Chads and am usually bit seriously attracted to them outside of appreciating looking at them. I’m from a Midwestern state where everyone gets married relatively early compared to the coasts, and I’m just down today because eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:54 PM
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See the part where everyone in my program is in a relationship. Trust me, I looked when I first came to my program.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:46 PM
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I don’t really want vengeance on society, I just want the girls who were mean to me to tell me they wish they were me now because I “turned out so well” and for the guys who ignored me because they were too busy slavering all over these girls to say they fucked up by rejecting me and that I turned out super hot and cool. And if this never happens, I’m not going to weaponize my feelings because that’s some dumb incel rhetoric and I care more about improving the human condition than my own feeling…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:46 PM
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No unfortunately. Unless you’re an engineer or in the field of physics, you won’t make shit unless you go into medicine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:31 PM
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I think that last part is something I’ve needed to hear so thank you. I sometimes feel like I’m wasting my time, which is something we can’t know until after we’re done with something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:30 PM
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Because it’s not how I do romance. I live for the period of a few weeks to a few months of bumping into the person and feeling giddy and afraid and unsure if they like you and like your head is spinning. I need these to bond to the person. If they swipe right on you, the mystery is gone and you know if they’re at least sexually attracted to you. I need something I can savor that comes from serendipity, and you just can’t get that with OLD. I literally can’t take OLD seriously, and the kind of gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:30 PM
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If we’re going to be honest, I have given up on that front. The majority of people I meet in proximity to me are taken, I can’t do OLD, and I haven’t met anyone who interests me in a very long time. I fucked up in college by staying in a dead end three year relationship. That was my window and it’s gone, and I have to accept that I blew it and that it was my fault and be okay with the idea I’m likely never going to find someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:03 PM
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I just don’t feel this. I may or may not find a lab since I’m finishing my first year. If I don’t, it’s back to the real world with not a lot of money making prospects and nothing really going for me. It’s nice of you to say this, but I am not a world changer, and I think about how I hid behind this kind of thinking to protect my fragile ego every day of my life. At the end of the day, I would rather have been dumb and pretty like a lot of the Cool Girls because there’s very little life stakes t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:57 PM
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Ugh, I wish it made money. Nobody tells you that there’s no money in biochemistry, just a little bit of intellectual bragging rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:52 PM
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Pickmes make me sad more than anything because I don’t think a mentality like theirs will ever lead to anything happy or healthy. With that being said, I can’t change how they think so it’s not worth much thought. Cool girls elicit a strange feeling in me that a rather don’t like and try my best to ignore. I was an outcast in middle school into early high school, rejected by these girls and invisible to most men because of these girls, which inherently inspired feelings of disdain in me. All of …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:31 PM
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Another sane answer to do my heart good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:10 PM
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It’s the same tune as post-legalized weed CO. People who were against it liked to pull up things on the increase in traffic accidents, etc to say “SEE SEE THIS IS WHY WE CANT LEGALIZE IT” when the fact of the matter is that the first 5-10 years of legalizing something previously taboo are almost always going to result in problems that smooth out over the course of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:06 PM
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At this point in my life? Hands down Daniel Jackson from Stargate SG-1. He’s fucking hot, an absolute brainiac, loyal, and good-hearted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:00 PM
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Lmao Daddy Hughes is a Hues choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:58 PM
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Uh uh someone said it. These guys have the audacity to bitch that women only want the best of the best men and that they’re entitled when most of them want a half wife who’s never seen a dick before his who will be a fuck doll, maid, and nanny to whatever children they pump out. They want someone who has the physical appeal to be promiscuous but who never was because then they actually have to try hard since she knows she has options. It’s so stupid and absolutely predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:32 PM
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If I could gold something, I would gold this. I wonder this ever time I get on the sub. If they fucking hate women so much and think that we’re a plague on humanity, then stop trying to date us, buy a sex doll, and shut the fuck up. Otherwise, be a dick to us while dating us, but you forfeit your ability to complain. Either way, at least the fucking whining stops.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:25 PM
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I agree with this. FDS at its face value just seemed to me to be about women learning how to value themselves so that they can have a more successful dating experience, which I have no problem with. However, my problem with that movement is that the more I looked at it and the kinds of posts they make, I realized that they’re doing the one thing that women do not need at this point which is asserting gender roles in regards to money and who pursues who, which is the last thing we need. The last …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:21 PM
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I am not male ol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 02:32 AM
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how tall are you Under 6’. I also have a vagina...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 02:32 AM
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When I was hitting puberty age, my mom once told me that sure looks aren’t everything but that there has to be some level of mutual physical attraction for a relationship to work and that it’s not shallow to accept this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 12:04 AM
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I’m not really into hook ups like I was in college (it was usually non PIV sex activity anyway), but you really don’t have to be hot to be picked for a hook up. I think a lot of people on here assume women only want to hook up with the best of the best but we like easy lays too here and there. Those pretty guys can be just as demanding and picky about stuff, so a lot of women I know just kind of aim for someone cute who isn’t fucking crazy or sketchy to have casual sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 08:52 PM
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We had some sick ragers at my old college house lol those were the days.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 08:21 PM
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This is 200% true in both party settings and other kinds of scenarios. I’m friends with a lot of different guys, and the ones who are simultaneously the most frustrated and least successful in dating are the ones constantly looking for it and who never let things just happen naturally. This is because it’s intimidating to have somebody up in your shit instead of just having a good time and putting out at-ease cues.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 07:35 PM
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Before I had to quit drinking, I also loved house parties just because it’s always an interesting environment to meet people since they’re usually with friends and loosened up with liquor and in the weird in between of acting like themselves more than normal and less than normal. It was just an environment to feel young and like there were others to connect with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 07:32 PM
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If he works hard, the income is enough to not put all of the financial stress on me, and he doesn’t have to go through long periods of waiting for work/ the work has a stable market, then I do not care. Hell, I’d be happy for him because I’d enjoy a career with passive income. Edit: since the individual deleted their question to me about what if he doesn’t have a career and acquires money through something like dividends from his parent’s investments, this was to be my reply: In that case, other…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:43 PM
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From my personal observations, being physically attractive can get you the dates, but your behavior in social settings and how easy insecurities are to detect determine if these dating experiences are successful. You can be really hot, but if you think lowly of yourself and it’s easy to see, people who want to have their cake and eat it too will be gunning for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:35 PM
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I agree with this. The assumptions I make about red pillers are mostly in regard to behavior. I assume they’re from all walks of life though. The same goes for FDS. I would argue socially inept and insecure/ unconfident people would have somewhat comparable difficulties in dating to people who are below average in sexual attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:33 PM
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No, the reason we don’t have legal prostitution is because a lot of conservative voters and legislators have done everything they can to get in the way of personal freedom in order to uphold their religious agenda. I would vote in favor of legal prostitution as long as other parts of the legislation covered bases such as sex worker healthcare, mandated STD testing, and upholding of personal rights for sex workers. If I ever get a boyfriend who decides he wants to see prostitutes behind my back, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:28 PM
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100% true. Humans are inherently shitty. Sex doesn't magnify or negate this fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:14 PM
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I don’t even mind if I’m 60% and he’s 40%, but I am not a mommy and here to take care of of him so that he can coast. I once had a boyfriend invite himself to live with me after he got into a fight with his parents; I thought he would leave in a few weeks after it cooled off, but it was a couple of months in before I finally brought it up during an argument. He was mad that I was “making him drive everywhere” which meant he was “paying way too much on gas.” I still drove quite a bit, and it’s no…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:06 PM
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This is the PPD cognitive dissonance. “DONT YOU SEE ALL OF THOSE BETA BUX THESE WOMEN SETTLED FOR?!” “WHY ARE WOMEN ONLY ATTRACTED TO THE TOP 20% OF MEN, FUCKING SKANKS!” Please pick one. Just one. You can either be pissed because you think that we’re entitled and overly picky, or you can be pissed because you think a lot of us are settling for you guys at the end of the day. You cannot be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:00 PM
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Mood. You don’t need to make six figures, but you need to be in a stable line of work that pats enough so that all of the financial pressure isn’t just on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:56 PM
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... okay lol. A lot of us don’t have to for that kind of shit anyway, but believe what you want to believe. We’ll also ignore the man-meat exercise junkie try-hards all over Instagram that give the Insta-hotties a run for their money in the attention-whore department.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:54 PM
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Women are neither. They’re people. This is the only right answer ever. It feels like some of the men on here almost think we’re an entirely different species. We’re like you guys. We want to get the best we can get. That’s not a female thing, it’s a human one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:49 PM
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I'm not really sure how to answer your question because I myself have kind of given up on gauging my own level of attractiveness. I'm going by what I've been told. I also haven't been in the dating pool in a long time (since graduating college), so I haven't experienced "competition" in a long time. From my college experiences, the average male in your looksmatch range either did one of two things: aimed for the hottest of the hotties/ someone a few "hot" ranks above him, or aimed for slightly l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 12:02 AM
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There’s a sweet spot. I’ve always been regarded as above average intelligence but also in the vein of socially inept. I’m also above average in looks from what I’ve been told. My demographic is looking for their male counterparts, which are the above average looks nerds who are also socially inept. A lot of us are eccentric and bizarre so we’re looking for guys with these traits who are otherwise sexually and mentally appealing because there’s less competition for them since most women won’t put…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 05:10 PM
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I so wish this was true...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 05:02 PM
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All of this checks out. I don’t care about his height as long as he’s my height or taller. I also think a lot of people never discuss this, but a lot of us women are in the “not fat” camp too. I don’t care if you don’t look like an Olympian god, but I expect you to be average to svelte (a little pudge is okay if you have other things I find appealing like independent personality, carry yourself confidently, are intelligent, etc) and have hair with no signs of regression. Hair is where I’m most s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 09:12 PM
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As a woman, I don’t have qualms with any of these. This set up would allow us to dismantle double standards and power imbalances. I would like to add that we should beef up existing maternity leave with paternity leave to match it, and Obamacare should be amended to cover forms of male birth control as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 08:51 PM
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It’s the basic principle of it, but self-improvement isn’t something TRP came up with or that is inherent to only it. It’s been here long before TRP and will be long after it. TRP also has tenants that deal with things other than self improvement, such as trying to characterize female dating behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 01:16 AM
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They have different fundamental strategies, but the idea is the same. It’s people being bitter about their lack of satisfying romantic encounters with the opposite sex who basically start out as a support group and turn into a cult along the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 08:14 AM
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I mean, fair enough. I can't make decisions for these people. I'm just saying that there is a bigger picture I think a lot of people are missing. Sure, you could argue there's no point in investing in a community that won't invest back. However, you can't say it won't until you try. We sometimes have to walk into things without our first thought being "what is in this for me" for us to really experience it and reap the benefits of a selfless life. That isn't to say someone should become a doorma…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:02 AM
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That’s the problem with our current culture. “What’s in it for me?” I don’t think we should give and give and give to our detriment, but I do think that the mentality of thinking about whether it’ll benefit us and not if it is good or right to do is why the US is crumbling. Maybe if people weren’t so busy being worried about their relationship status, they would be more worried about the big picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 02:15 AM
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why would they care about it? Why are nerds nerds? Because it gets a ton of chicks? No, because they love whatever it is that they’re pursuing and it gives them purpose in the context of their own lives. I guess where I’m coming from is that I hear a lot of these men say their lives would be more meaningful with a partner but then think about how if goes. At some point, the excitement wears off and your days are basically waking up together, going to work, coming home, having dinner while watchi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 08:51 PM
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Because you’re well adjusted and don’t feel like you’re entitled to get whoever you want. I think both sexes, especially in the US, can be entitled about what kind of partner they deserve. I just think the men on this sub are delusional about what they think they’re owed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:36 PM
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I think that these colored pills coming into existence only serves to highlight that these people don’t think there’s more to life than finding a gf/ bf, getting married, and having kids. These people could choose to replace those desires with contributing to their communities, expanding their knowledge, or pursuing a higher form of education, but a lot of them would rather be angry and invest in toxic communities online than contribute to the one they live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 06:56 PM
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I came here to say this. All the consent classes want to do is clarify where lines can blur and how to empathize with a partner. The only reason the GOP is vetoing it is because not discussing sex of any form with teenagers = vote of the religious right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:41 AM
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I agree with this. The 1950s and beyond get treated like this golden era where traditional marriage reigned supreme because people actually loved each other, but I think it is quite the opposite. People tend to be more in love now because they don’t need marriage for financial security and can leave a marriage easily since divorce isn’t as taboo anymore. I also think that the majority of marriages are people settling, especially where I’m from (Midwestern America). A lot of people in my home sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:37 AM
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Jesus, you’re kind of a fucking asshole...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 03:32 AM
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Maybe it’s because you all choose high maintenance hot chicks because if a woman isn’t hot she’s invisible to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 03:18 AM
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Okay, because a lot of us don’t go Dutch./s In my 27 years of life, I’ve never had a significant other taking care of me or buy me luxuries. The only relationship I was in where the man tried to insist on paying for stuff resulted in him inviting himself to live with me when he got into a knock down drag out with his parents. Some of us don’t want “reparations” (probably most), we just want to not have to take care of you. We want men who can take care of themselves and who aren’t man-children. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 07:50 PM
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Can confirm. Am not wife material.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 07:35 PM
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This is one of the most sane posts I’ve seen here. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 06:45 AM
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Oh, I definitely agree there. I think it’s a combination of factors that include genetics, care of the body, hygiene, and attitude. I’ve seen a variety of things happen for people. Some people who are hot in their early twenties lose appeal by their mid twenties. Some people who were okayish in their twenties get extremely attractive by their thirties. I think the case we don’t talk about a lot is the people we all know who are “cute” but don’t get a lot of attention from the opposite sex who ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 06:38 AM
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Eh, fair enough. I don’t necessarily think that men are all thirsting after senior women, but I feel like the mere concept of MILF porn infers that a fair part of the male population is at least sexually intrigued by the idea of a woman who may be past her physical prime but is in the fountain of her sexual prime. I’m not sure if it’s been contradicted yet, but I remembered hearing for the longest time that a woman’s sexual prime is in her 30s, 40s, sometimes 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 05:55 AM
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She was beautiful in youth and is attractive now, but she is still clearly past her prime. She’s aged fairly well, but she’s not aged so well that you think she’s ten years younger than she is. Basically, what I’m trying to say is that I don’t think age is as important as other variables when considering sexual attractiveness. If men only wanted sexy, youthful partners who were fertile (creepy fucking word that I’ve seen thrown around here a lot, but I guess has context to a lot of discussions) …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 05:49 AM
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I agree with you because I think that concessions need to be made in issues like this that do not favor the freedom of one sex over the other sex. Women should be free from forced pregnancy because it allows a man to have control over her body and the direction of her life, but men should be able to opt out of being a provider for a child if he didn’t intend to or doesn’t want to be because that would give a woman control over him. Both cases are entirely unfair, regardless of the “it takes two …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 05:44 AM
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For a change, this is something on here that I can agree with. Men shouldn’t have a say in forcing women to go through with a pregnancy if she doesn’t want it, but men shouldn’t be forced into fatherhood if they don’t want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 02:52 AM
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You’re trying to bring in an argument that relies on empathy in a sun full of people who lack it. I agree with you; I literally had this argument with a friend today. People think that just because you don’t have to have formal education for a lot of these occupations means that you don’t have the “skills” to get paid well or adequately, which is downright wrong. There has got to be some way for us to see how much work goes into all of these jobs and that the way we are paying labor/ service job…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 02:49 AM
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One of my best friend’s mother is in her forties and looking damn sexy. According to my friend, she’s seen her mother get hit in and hit up by younger men plenty of times. The MILF genre of porn isn’t a thing for absolutely no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 02:41 AM
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And men don’t prefer women who have more feminine physical traits? If we’re attracted to men with masculine traits then fuck us, but it’s totally okay that you guys want women with waist to hip ratios, large eyes, and a delicately structured face? AF/ BB is a joke. What happens in life is that hot people get to fuck a lot, average people may or may not get laid some, and ugly peoples either never get any or fuck each other a lot. That’s it. That’s life. The study also discussed flirtation, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 07:58 AM
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So I checked out your papers. I’ve already seen a lot of this research and known about it for quite some time, but the only portion of it that really backs red pill sentiments was the whole women being more likely to engage in extra pair bonded flirtation with more masculine men than their partner when they rated that they found their partner lower in attractiveness and the partner gate-keeping. In discussions on here though, no one would mention or even care about the part where women who are p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 06:30 AM
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I don’t know. I guess I’m not them. I’ve dated mostly men who were on a trajectory to make less than me and mostly cared that they were actually going to secure a job in the field that they were pursuing (music majors) or something that would be stable long term if they couldn’t. Myself and a lot of women aren’t looking for a provider, but we are also not looking for a leech. I think it’s okay for men to do the same. I don’t think men talk about it as much, but there are portions of the male pop…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 06:26 AM
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I think men most certainly do look for looks and chemistry in women. We know you guys are definitely looking at physical attractiveness, but I think a lot of guys want chemistry too. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be looking for women who are gamers or not into “basic girl shit” or who want “deep talks.” Money and power less so, but I think it’s being more common to see the woman as the breadwinner. I get that it’s not a specific trait men look for, but I do think more men are considering the income o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 05:18 AM
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Oh, I’m alright haha you don’t have to share anything “useful” or offer solace, though I always do appreciate perspective and having amicable discussion on here with users like yourself. It is what it is in terms of my current point in life. I’m just extrapolating from my own experiences as to why I think men and women in my position are often struggling while trying to understand myself better and how to live my life the best way possible. I guess, when I consider hobbies, they’re usually thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 04:26 AM
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You see, I’ve seen some link heavy threads. The funny part is that it’s just all made of links to the same paper on various websites or linked to pages of specific figures. Those are a joke. If it’s not that paper, it’s articles cited in that paper. There’s never been any subsequent research that I’ve come across on here for the topic of that particular paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 04:07 AM
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I never see these links, and maybe it’s because of the mods banning it, but I also think that there’s not a lot of research into and also not a lot of research that is performed soundly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 03:24 AM
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I definitely see what you mean. I suppose, when I consider fulfillment, I include hobbies and extra-educational learning and research and a whole menagerie of things. I have a lot of interests in various things that excite me and give me a sense of purpose by experiencing/ exploring/ thinking about them. That being said, I don’t know if I’m a minority or not. I just know these things keep me alive (as well as friends and family and a cat), so I don’t understand why other people don’t feel this t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 03:21 AM
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I came here to say this exactly. I don’t feel threatened by it, but I am slightly offended (as a scientist who studies a hard science field) that a lot of these people try to utilize pseudoscience to justify view points that are not only erroneous but wildly sexist and often misogynistic. They don’t understand that studies on animal behavior only apply to human behavior to a very limited extent due to the fact that we are the exceptions to a lot of rules. The fact that we created culture, which …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 11:59 PM
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Fucking hell, you don’t take shots with chasers do you haha I’d actually agree to an extent and have often thought this myself. No matter what we do and how in touch with someone we are, there’s always going to be a part of us that loves the idea of the person. It’s almost impossible to love someone exactly for who they are because we aren’t them and don’t share their conscious mind which means we can’t understand every tiny facet of them and can only rely on what it is we perceive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 11:35 PM
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I apologize for not replying to this sooner because I was in an intense back and forth argument with another user for a few days, so this fell to the wayside. I can respect and appreciate you being vulnerable about this because it is an emotional matter. I want to say your feelings are valid and that it’s understandable that you want to experience love/ sex. When I’m saying the stuff like I did above, it’s because I want to remind people here that it’s easy to confuse what we want with what we f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 09:56 PM
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Exactly! A gay man that I’m acquainted with once said he thinks that most men in America don’t enjoy sex and do it go itch a scratch but don’t savor it. I would say this almost applies to women as well. I don’t think people in our culture enjoy sex because like you said there’s a lot of stress that comes with it. It’s not only treated like a chore but a “badge” to signify that you got to a certain level in your life, which are both sad ways of treating something meant to be enjoyable and intimat…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 09:24 PM
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I guess the way I view it is that their failure to find purpose outside of a monogamous relationship is their own fault. I'll say the same for women who react in this way. Actually, for anyone. The unfortunate fact of life is that nobody is owed a romantic partner, but we're the first generation who's probably going to experience this to a very harsh degree. There's the old saying that "everyone deserves someone" which I think is mostly true, but deserving something doesn't necessarily guarantee…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 08:33 PM
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Yeah. I guess, I'm just trying to make the point that sex for men and women (or anyone who identifies between) is an affair that often isn't without some degree of self-focus. "Look how I made my partner orgasm." "I'm happy I made them feel that good when we got it on." These statements could be made by anyone, so I'm just saying that I think sex will always involve the ego regardless of sex. A lot of men have suggested that sex is often validating for them. Validation is about the ego feeling r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 08:02 PM
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I second this. I actually think that this is the actual phenomenon that drives what they think are “hYpErGaMy traits.” There is nothing biological about it like they tend to think and instead is a product of human culture handed to us by older generations. It’s not normal or healthy, but I do think it’s somewhat common but more so when we’re younger. Once you enter into late college, a lot of it disappears; I think it’s the age point where maturity is achieved by most women so that this kind of …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 05:55 AM
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I think it’s more like people are aware that components they need in a relationship are missing even if they don’t know what or haven’t experienced it. It’s like putting a jigsaw puzzle together without the box cover. You can try to put things together and only have your own assumptions about what it’s supposed to be, but if a few pieces don’t fit right you start to realize that other pieces will fit better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 05:08 AM
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The problem with even having these kinds of conversations in the first place is that it’s essentially being asked that one group go back to a really unfulfilling way of life and forfeiting their autonomy. I genuinely feel bad that all of these men feel so isolated and destroyed by their inability to obtain relationships. I do. But think about the situation presented: One group’s autonomy/ freedom vs. another group’s sadness about being single This is going to sound very harsh, but if me being ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 11:32 PM
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Wrong. The woman’s peak fertility extends from late teens into late twenties with some dwindling in the early thirties that becomes more rapid by the age 35. From my family members and friends who work in healthcare (yes they are physicians, pharmacists, etc with actual degrees), the prime cut off age is 34 to prevent birth defects like Down’s Syndrome. In a couple of the studies I’ve looked up, the prime years for fertility are late teens into late twenties. And while yes you are right that fer…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 03:28 AM
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Oh yeah, because I totally advised people to have geriatric pregnancies. Stop making straw men. It’s pathetic. Studies have shown waiting until your late twenties to marry increases the likelihood of it succeeding. Age related birth defects don’t start to become a worry until after 35. So get married at 27-28, have a few years together until you have kid one when she’s 30, have kid two at 32-33. Boom done. A timeline a lot of people follow. There have been studies done on brain development that …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 01:35 AM
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There’s a lot of BPD men out there then... some of my experiences were more extreme, but I’ve met women who have been in relationships with men who act like he did. Probably because it’s more common in men than is known due to diagnosis differences, like girls with ADHD. Well, at this point, I find it comical that you think automatically that woman = potential cheater so there’s not much more to say there except that heterosexual relationships end all of the time without another dick or vagina b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 11:18 PM
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with a side of infidelity I can’t tell if you’re describing your own situation or mine, but I assure you infidelity was never a problem on either side of the relationship (at least, it wasn’t on my end, and to my knowledge, his) if it’s the latter. What I’m trying to say is that I didn’t do anything to warrant it it; he literally went out of his way to find “clues” that weren’t there. He used to try to use weird “psychological” tests on me to see if I was attracted to other people or losing attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 04:17 PM
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Hey now, I already called projection on you. Get a little more creative. And no, it wasn’t me. I got mean towards the end and did say some nasty things but I think that tends to happen when you have to walk on eggshells for so long. When you’re saying something and your partner gets that look in their eyes and says “watch what you’re saying” in that tone and you immediately start to feel sick because if you don’t back track fast, you’re going to have another meltdown on your hands and you don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 07:54 AM
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Okay, whatever you say because you were totally there./s No, he wooed me but didn’t love bomb me because I hate that. He wooed me and gradually became more demanding and clingy until it went into some dark territory. The one thing I desperately needed in that relationship was space, and I didn’t get that for a second until I had to move away for work. Remember that every abuser has their own style. You worked your style in your two marriages, and he worked his style in my relationship. Give the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 03:28 AM
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You don’t need to be married, in romantic love, or with a partner to have sex... just saying. I’m not going to deny people have innate sexual needs that require a degree of satiation, but you don’t have to have any of the above to have sex unless you have moral or religious qualms against premarital sex. If that is the case, that is a personal choice that was made. However, I didn’t say people don’t need sexual stimulation, ideally with another person, I said they don’t have to be in a commitmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 09:26 PM
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That is where you’re wrong. It was their fixation or obsession on me that drove the toxic dynamics in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 03:51 PM
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Because you are fixed on your own world view that suits you and your experiences. I’m not saying data is infallible or that survey based studies are highly faulty, but I do think you would balk if anyone ever gave you any proof that your convictions about women in general are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 03:57 AM
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There's no reasoning with a misogynist, then. If I were you, I'd reflect on the women I was choosing for partners because I think that's the root of all of your problems. Plenty of us have put others first to our own detriment and made sacrifices for men who didn't deserve us because we thought it was the right thing to do. But you don't care and probably don't believe me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 03:47 AM
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What is that, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 03:25 AM
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Why would you even get married if you didn't trust them? That's your first bad choice to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 03:20 AM
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Wrong. Late 20s. And ex-boyfriend. Very ex. And congrats? Idk, you’re an outlier if you’re a Millennial. I won’t say people like you don’t exist because I come from the Bible Belt where your path isn’t that uncommon, but what does this prove to me? Did you make your wife take paternity tests when you guys popped out a few kids before you could even rent a car? That’s just your marriage and your life. It doesn’t say anything about larger trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 01:51 AM
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I don’t even know what hypergamy is anymore because it’s thrown around so loosely on here. The point is that you are specifically cherry picking parts of the data to support your argument because you didn’t read the entire thing. I knew what it was the moment I looked at it because I’d seen that study before. And even looking at it in the context of divorce, it’s at an all time low because Millennials are opting to marry later which usually leads to marriages with more longevity. So the women ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 01:44 AM
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Then I guess you guys should all be making it a requirement in relationships or for engagements. If you think the level of women going their own way is high now, just watch what happens if men at large were to start that trend. Maybe some would refuse to do it because they are cheating and don’t want to be caught, but most of us have dealt with the nightmare that is insecure, paranoid, and controlling men and are going to turn the other way if that card is played. What you’re suggesting is somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 01:30 AM
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The survey grouped it together in a way that did not reflect the actual limits for age. It is literally a fact that if the Millennial birth range is 1983-1995 then there are other age groups on there too. You’re also neglecting that the age range where women reported more cheating was by 1%. Take that into consideration that there was a Gen Z mix in there too, and the supposed “hypergamous cheating level that are sky rocketing” don’t really look what you’re making them out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 01:18 AM
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These are pretty strong assumptions. And no, it didn’t prove your stupid fucking point because you completely ignored my point about the age frame and the time of the survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 01:14 AM
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I literally said I do think that men are more sexually driven than women. What I’m saying we’re not different in is that both are going to take the best they can get. All I’m asking is that guys who are mad about women being “hypergamous” realize that EVERYONE evaluates potential partners on what they bring to the table. Yes, women have the advantage because men have a broader scope for what they deem physically attractive than we do, but remember that this balances out because we are going to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 01:09 AM
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You’re the one who brought up the study in order to prove me wrong and when it contradicted what you were saying decided to drop it completely. Don’t bring up statistics if you’re not prepared to deal with them not supporting what you’re saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 12:42 AM
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Does my age matter? And I’m just saying what the data in the study linked said. You know, the study that doesn’t back up your stance that women in general are bigger cheaters. When that study was performed, it was 2018. It included people 18-29 in the demographic that you referenced. In 2018, 23-35 was the age range for Millennials which means part of Gen Z accounted for the 18-29 statistics. Paired with the fact that the other age range to include the Millennial generation (30-39) included a gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 11:35 PM
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That doesn’t seem to be what the data says... trying to make the data reflect our feelings huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 11:28 PM
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In the context of divorce and women filing it the majority of the time, think about all the age groups this includes. The statistics in there said that only 17% of divorces are reported as a result not related to cheating. When you look at it in the big picture and put the pieces together, the majority of divorces are likely a result of men cheating on women who then file divorce because fuck that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 10:55 PM
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Bro, the Millennial age group does include people in their 30s where the difference in cheating is more pronounced than the 1% difference for people in their 20s. Fuck if I know. I don’t think the government cares or should care about people personal problems like that. Make it your own mandate when you get with a woman, but shit like that isn’t something you can just “mandate” people into doing at a National scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 10:51 PM
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You forgot to read the rest of the study. However, as the figure above indicates, this gender gap varies by age. Among ever-married adults ages 18 to 29, women are slightly more likely than men to be guilty of infidelity (11% vs. 10%). But this gap quickly reverses among those ages 30 to 34 and grows wider in older age groups. In general, men are more likely than women to cheat: 20% of men and 13% of women reported that they’ve had sex with someone other than their spouse while married, accordin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 10:41 PM
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Link the source then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 10:34 PM
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Have you wondered how many of the women filing for divorce caught their husbands in the process of swinging to the next branch and noped the fuck out? And yeah, I won’t say men don’t get murdered in divorce court, but I think that’s a systematic problem that needs fixing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 10:31 PM
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Ditching your wife after years of marriage for a younger woman is branch swinging, and I’ve seen it happen several times. Men. Do. It. Too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 10:24 PM
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Replace vibrator with dildo and beach with mountain hike then chill with my cat, and I am all about this mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 10:07 PM
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I can’t believe you’re having to defend yourself on any of this. That you, as a RAPE SURVIVOR, have to defend women as a whole needing to have a voice or be taken seriously. There are some fucked up, jaded men on here who are more angry about the few cases men have been falsely accused of rape than case after case like yours where you were clearly brutalized and nothing was done about it. I just want to say I’m so sorry that happened to you. Coming to this sub and seeing commenters like you get …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 07:11 PM
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All your comments do is prove to me that the big problem here is people feeling like they have to have children and not using BC. If we lived in a culture where everyone took seriously the cost of having children (financial, emotional, etc) and properly used high efficiency birth control before they were able to provide and guide, THAT would lead to a better society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 06:53 PM
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And the woman doesn’t have to worry about this happening ever? It’s not a sex-based thing. Romantic relationships are not a safe bet because people in general are out for their own personal interests. My problem with the Red Pill is that everything it frames in the context of female nature is just human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 06:44 PM
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You see, I think this is all poor assumptions because at the end of the day, what you experience is not the whole picture. What I experience isn’t the whole picture. I will not comment on the nature of men because I understand that part of that nature is the cognition and motives behind it, which I cannot speak for. I could say that the nature of men is to be deeply insecure about themselves to the point that they require a romantic relationship with a woman to reinforce their sense of ego. I co…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 06:40 PM
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Every time I make the mistake of coming back to this Godforbidden sub, all I see are implications that women are vicious opportunists. That is the rhetoric about the stupid BB/CF garbage. From what I’ve observed hypergamy isn’t successfully finding a partner who is physically or financially better off than you but the mere act of trying for it. We are all hypergamous. We all want better than ourselves. If a man gets a chance at a woman out of his league, he’s not not going to take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 06:27 PM
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Single is not isolated... I’m saying that most people feel like they NEED to have a relationship because they’re bombarded with messages that it will bring personal fulfillment and happiness when those are things we all can achieve by ourselves. I choose not to think the hoards of men on here who talk about men needing companionship and sex are speaking from a place that completely represents their own interests. Nobody needs to be married. Nobody needs romantic love. Nobody needs a partner to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 06:20 PM
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Because, at the end of the day, you only have your own side of things. It’s kind of arrogant of you to think your side of the story is the only one that matters. No, I’ve not dated or married a woman or had kids with one, but I am a woman with woman friends and family members. I KNOW how we think because I am a WOMAN. I’m so sick to death of men like you who think you know my sex better than I do. I’ve had my fair share of relationships with men, but you don’t see me sitting here saying shit abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 06:11 PM
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I'm not buying part of this. There is no "woman" nature or man "nature." There is only human nature and how our culture or upbringing or conscious thinking shape our behavior, which creates sex based divides. The only thing that has been a consistent theme is that men are more driven by their sexual nature than women and achieve arousal differently. However, the majority of evolutionary psychology is pseudoscience at best and gender conflict propaganda at neutral and misogyny/ misandry at worst.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 07:46 AM
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And we only get attention when we’re young and hot Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 06:10 AM
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The problem is that they don’t give a shit about the fact that these problems existed because that system would’ve gotten their dick sucked and a permanent house keeper to slave away in a ranch style house for them. The people on here who yearn to have society and culture like this again aren’t thinking about anyone else or the benefits of our current culture. They’re mad that they can’t laid and that women can now have a choice in men since female autonomy has become a cornerstone in modern cul…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 06:04 AM
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That’s not an explanation but whatever. I’ll point out when guys like you are wrong, but I can’t make you understand why you’re wrong. I’ve had to make that boundary with myself when engaging with people on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 05:48 AM
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>not all women are like that, but also all women are like that ​ Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 04:02 AM
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How is it a projection? And the lashing out is on them. If they enter into a situation where rejection is a possibility, then they need to be prepared for it. That goes for everyone who is deciding to put themselves out there. If you cannot handle rejection then do not date or put yourself out there until you can. ​ The problem with the Red Pill is that it categorizes women into certain traits and behaviors that don't represent individuals and thus dehumanizes them. "Women are all solipsistic." …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 03:56 AM
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Fair enough. I suppose I just don't even think of life like that. I think there is a lot of "women are wonderful" rhetoric that stems from an overbalance of leveling out the playing field that has somehow mingled in with old gender-role ideals, like women being the fairer sex. I notice those messages but mostly ignore them as background noise like a lot of other "positivity" sentiments that are popular in this era. At the end of the day, people are people regardless of sex, race, socioeconomic b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 01:15 AM
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I came here to say this. I consider my kink community to be primal play, and it definitely has a tendency to fall into rape play territory. There’s something about mating like animals that is a huge fucking turn on, mimicking the way a female cat just flops into her back wanting it so bad then fighting like she’d rather be anywhere else but there. The primal sexual hunger of men fascinates me because it’s such a powerful thing, and rape play brings it out. I agree that there is a lot of power in…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 11:42 PM
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This. I think the pair bonding thing is a ridiculous cop out meant to shame people (namely women) that have the capacity to get laid easily. Yes, sex can cause some level of emotional bonding due to the hormone flux of oxytocin, but there has to be other elements in place. People don’t stop being able to bond because they have sex with a bunch of people; those people usually weren’t able to bond anyway. People are complex, strange creatures that are the exception to many rules observed in our an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 05:48 AM
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That is my fault for tangling various possibilities. All I ever here about on here is one specific dynamic, and I should have laid out my argument better. You got me on this. I suppose part of it is that I'm working with general observations and a variety of narratives that I've watched play out. If I were to consider my contradicting statements, I'd say that mentally healthy women do not continuously fall into abusive situations but do still have to create learning curve. I'd so almost all youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:02 AM
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Reading this cracked me up. Thanks. They probably do hate me and think I'm a cunt, but I don't care because they're a bunch of whiny bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:17 AM
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Right, and we never hear stories about dudes dating insane, abusive hot girls? I think the only reason it's in public conscious is because women are able to discuss abuse with less stigma, which is unfortunate because we definitely need to be able to recognize and address it happening to men too. Accepting abuse for love is NOT a biological thing relegated to the sexes. It is generally a phenomenon that happens when people grow up in an environment where abuse in romantic situations is normal or…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:12 AM
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I’m not selling you piss. You’re drinking your own piss by being mad at me for pointing out that a lot of you have no reason to turn this into a “women are the problem” crusade when the phenomenon I described literally happens to both sexes. I can’t tell you how many guys I’ve heard have talked about how they dated super hot girls but realized that they weren’t going to be wife material and moved onto someone who was less attractive but who could be a partner and that they could respect and love…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:16 AM
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You clearly think there is a problem with how women navigate the modern dating world. You’ve mentioned that you feel like women prefer a segment of the male population that is hot but settle for less attractive guys, usually at the detriment of the less attractive partner. I’m saying that assuming all of this is self serving on the female side and not motivated by genuine love is wrong. In general, the belief in the entire AF/ BB dynamic negates the idea that can women start to value other trait…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 05:45 AM
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It’s because you’re acting like women have some master scheme to fuck a bunch of hot guys before roping in some poor average looking sap when that’s a one-sided and one-dimensional view of dating behavior that also completely ignores the fact that men do the same thing. I don’t have an agenda, but it makes sense you would think I do since you don’t assume women are dating for the same reasons as men because you think we’re scheming, morally corrupt banshees.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 05:01 AM
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Deliberately oblivious is a matter of your life experience but my perception makes sense to the things I’ve encountered. I don’t care if you go your own way or if any man does that, but I will call out misogyny and incorrect generalizations when I see it. Don’t date women, do date them. Whatever will make you happy. Don’t, however, think men are morally superior to women unless you enjoy living in a fantasy land.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 04:44 AM
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No. But I’m saying most people in their youth are careless and shallow, so if they have the social skills to get laid they will. As I’ve already said, the careless and shallow normies can have you. I never implied I wanted you or anyone here to want me anyway. That’s a funny way of trying to make me feel inferior to you by hypothetically rejecting me in a conversation when there are plenty of things you could retort. You don’t get to have a moral high ground here. Not a single person on here doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 04:35 AM
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Bro, I was literally K-8. Cool those keys lol None of the hot girls wore those skirts anyway because they were ugly and really unflattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 01:05 AM
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Don’t you know nothing gets men harder than shitty red, blue, and navy polos with a cardigan over the top and khaki shorts that are salacious enough to barely cover the knees?!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:53 AM
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This. I don’t hate Blackpill or Redpill men because they’re not hot or “ew they approached me” or because they are unsuccessful with most of my sex. I don’t even hate all of them. I hate the ones that tell me I’m a slut because I didn’t wait until marriage to have sex or that I only live for sucking Chad’s dick or that I don’t have the capacity to love. I hate the ones that act like they think they know what I want or what is physically appealing to me (Daniel Radcliffe is a beautiful man withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:30 AM
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I didn’t go to Catholic school for nine years and then deconvert just for the first world country I live in to become Catholic school suddenly lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:51 PM
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Where the fuck are you even getting that from what I said? I’m saying people want to sow their oats and often do, but it’s not sex-based. Average guys do it. Average girls do it. The only reason some of these guys aren’t doing it are because they don’t have normal social skills. Average people sow their oats with other people who are average. Youth is shallowness and carelessness, but what I’m trying to say is that people grow out of it. You’re missing my point that all of this is a people thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:13 PM
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Oh, make me roll my eyes harder men are fucking sluts too. Everyone can sow their oats if they’re mildly attractive and socially skilled enough to have a drunk conversation that turns into banging in my old college house bathroom (we had to tape off the upstairs restroom so people wouldn’t use it for this reason). You know what? You guys treat girls by their tiers of attractiveness too. I was treated pretty second rate in high school, but I decided that the kind of guys who treated me second rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 10:29 PM
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It’s a good thing my coarse body hair has forced me to make a practical approach lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 10:03 PM
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Don't project your own experience onto everyone else and think it's the norm. This is basically 90% of this sub lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:54 PM
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It’s the least women could give after taking so much from society and never giving a goddamn thing back. Half of the work force would like a word lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:45 PM
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Everything about this reply is fucking funny. Cudos to you, sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:41 PM
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You’d be surprised at how strongly body odor can negate sexual attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:34 PM
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Eurotrips > children
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:32 PM
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Lol you’re a funny guy. Nah, I just have much bigger things I’m contending with right now than finding a romantic relationship or getting laid. I think part of the problem with this sub is that it’s really easy out of general life problems for people to focus on lack of partnership when there are things they really need to be working on that are more important. Being right with God/ the Universe and yourself is a highly underrated part of finding happiness. Dating apps are also not my thing. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:24 PM
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Ah, I am working on accumulating wealth. You are correct I would like to be wealthy myself. Bold of you to assume I’m looking for a LTR lol haven’t been on the market lately, but I hear it’s terrible for both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:50 PM
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I don’t lol I buy men’s razors because they’re better quality anyway. I don’t understand why we even have sex-based razors because female hair is not “more delicate” than male hair and needs just as hardy of shaving equipment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:24 PM
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I did not, but I don’t think I would like being dependent on another person financially, especially if they want children. As long as a person can find stable, decent paying work and afford a good gym and PS5 (if it ever isn’t out of stock again), life is good 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:21 PM
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Whelp, I guess I’m used up. shrugs
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:04 PM
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No. I see everyone as adult humans with the right to have sex or not have sex with whoever they want to. If you don’t want to have sex with objectively unattractive women, that’s fine. Just don’t expect women to do the same. There. Everybody is happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:01 PM
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Nope. I am a proud and single cat lady STEM graduate student. Every man I’ve dated has been more physically attractive than the last, but oh no those days are over because I’m too used up now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 06:57 PM
1

That’s nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 06:47 PM
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Attraction is what it is, I agree, but I’m saying that it does change for people over time. All of the guys I dated differed physically, the only thing being shared is that they were all socially awkward nerds. Each of these guys has helped shape my tastes and opened me up to things I may not have been as attracted to. I guess your experiences differ. I’ve met guys whose exes were objectively more attractive than the woman they married. I’ve met all kinds of people from different situations, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 06:45 PM
1

And you sound like a beta cunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 06:37 PM
10

This purge week is getting weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 06:37 PM
2

I’m sure my man-child ex who likes to be taken care of feels the same, especially when he was living in the apartment signed in my name and that was being paid for with my money after he got into a fight with his parents and didn’t want to live at home anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 06:36 PM
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You sound like a kind and well-adjusted person with a grip on reality./s
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 06:30 PM
1

I’m not saying all hot guys are a pain in the ass. I’m just going in line with the rhetoric on this sub that some extremely nice looking guys do use and abuse women. People do get sick of being treated bad after a certain point, so I’m saying women value conventional hotness less with time if they get mistreated by these “Chads.” You aren’t just attracted to looks, so I’d argue that these women are attracted to some of the emotional components in these beta men too. Let’s say though that people …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 06:06 PM
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It sounds like you and your friends just really suck at picking women. I’m not perpetuating a lie. I’m stating a fact. I have never been into chest beating muscle heads and plenty of women I know haven’t been into them. If you mean a beta is a whiny, pouty, unproactive man who can’t stand up for himself, then yes that isn’t going to be popular with women. It also won’t be popular with men. Literally no one wants to marry that. You know what, I’m going to say this: all of you people are clearly h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 10:57 PM
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I definitely agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 02:57 AM
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You make a great point. There’s a lot of mixed messages about romance and dating in media, most of the rally for singleness coming from the argument it leaves you open to sleep around and sow your oats. However, that’s a luxury mostly for attractive people. On the side of the coin where relationships are romanticized, attractive people once again benefit from having an easier ability to enter relationships. If we glorified finding purpose over love and sex across all forms of media, we would be …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 12:39 AM
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I think you missed the point. I’m saying people are allowed to change and grow. There’s a lot of discussions on here about how the women who marry these “beta bucks” don’t love them and are just using them for financial support, so what I’m arguing is that that is erroneous. Almost everyone begins their entrance into the dating world with shallow wants and notions. This includes men. It’s not like high school wasn’t a bunch of guys all sniffing up the skirts of the hottest girls in school before…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 11:46 PM
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I certainly would like a relationship that is fulfilling in all facets. What do you mean men are completely accurate? As in, they accurately understand their “league” better than women? I don’t think anyone should settle because it usually doesn’t work out in the long run. What I’m saying is that women are rejecting a lot of men because they’re not seeing these guys being something to the table that is more appealing to them than singlehood. I won’t argue that we are more fickle than men, but I …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 11:31 PM
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I’m personally not into it. I don’t need a man who is super ripped or fit, but I prefer men with lean or thin (but not too thin) bodies. A dad bod is more something that is “forgiveable” like it won’t disqualify him from consideration, but I personally don’t go for teddy bear type bodies on default.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 10:44 PM
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Hello me lol. I completely get this. I wasn’t necessarily a powerful boss bitch type, but I’ve been told by some people that my energy is intense when they first meet me. If I don’t feel comfortable in a social situation, it’s all over my face but in a way that is less insecure and more hostile. I also was very vocal about my opinions (which were on everything growing up lol) and was quick to argue with people of either sex. I was once fretting to my mom about how I felt like I didn’t have offer…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 10:36 PM
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Where I went to college, you definitely still had guys struggle to date or find someone, but I notice that it was more behavior related. These guys weren’t jerks or unkind, but they just didn’t know how to sell themselves, which is something a lot of people underrate. Hot people still received the most attention, but it wasn’t just them alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 09:41 PM
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I’ve seen men go through the same thing dating super hot girls over and over until figuring out it’s not worth it. This isn’t sex specific. I can see how you feel disrespected, but part of the reason I don’t understand why so many men are having issues is because I saw plenty of average men find girlfriends in college. I saw people of all different levels of attractiveness find love in college, usually with people of a similar level of attractiveness. I don’t doubt some women only put all of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 07:10 PM
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Hey, you don’t ever have to take what you feel is a bad deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 03:59 PM
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In regards to response 1, I definitely agree. I am an outlier in this scenario. To response 2, I completely respect that. I’m not saying men here are obligated to at all have to please the female masses. You should certainly live life on your own terms. I’m just saying this for a lot of the men on here who present an attitude that they’re entitled to a relationship or sex from someone they perceive to be in an achievable range for them without putting in the work. Some of this comes from a place…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 09:33 AM
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Oh. That genuinely surprises me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:54 AM
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I’m going to just say that you and I are probably in the minority here because I had to be the one to make the first move in my past relationships, but from what I understand that’s not common. I won’t say there isn’t a dating inequality or that your average woman doesn’t have an advantage over your average man. However, I don’t think the dating world is as impossible as a lot of the men on here seem to think. What is occurring right now is a change in a lot of dynamics between the sexes as oppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:23 AM
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I think the attitude you see is transitional. There’s some cognitive dissonance between people shifting from gender roles into a more progressive mindset. As time goes on, we’re going to see women understanding it’s hypocritical to pick and choose elements from historical gender roles while also defending new values formed from progress. I don’t personally subscribe to evolutionary psychology because human sentience is an anomaly in the animal kingdom, which means that behavior that appears to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 08:03 PM
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Idk. Even if the father would take the baby and let the mother go on continuing her life without involvement, pregnancy is a really intense experience that can be taxing for the mother mentally, emotionally, and physically. It's not as simple as "just carrying it for awhile then letting him have it."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 04:30 AM
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So do you have anymore things to attack me on? Am I missing some morsel of an imaginary buffet?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 01:58 AM
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I’d also add baby trapping. In my mind, it’s the ultimate form of toxic femininity. You’re using your own sexual organ to create a new life that will become a bidding chip or guilt anchor on someone who does not want it, usually after lying to someone who trusts you about being on birth control or sabotaging a condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 01:50 AM
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Dude, I don’t even fucking want kids. And I’d prefer to not live with a partner, so I’m not going to be taking money that way. It’s like you all think we’re sharks out to eviscerate you emotionally and financially instead of people just trying to live our damn lives and find happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 01:33 AM
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I mean, I do... I have approached my partners in the past. I’ve paid for my own food. I’ve taken care of myself. I earned my own degrees. I’ve never assumed that I’m just going to meet some guy who will financially provide for me. I’ve tried to deny myself all of the benefits of my traditional gender role because I’d have more agency in my own life than everything paid for. I think it’s something everyone should aspire to since dependence leaves the door open to be manipulated and abused or to o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 01:15 AM
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I’m reading back on this conversation and trying to figure out where that is relevant. I don’t think all men merely see us as holes. I don’t think most men do, especially emotionally stable and well adjusted men. I do think a lot of guys on here don’t want a girlfriend but a therapist that they can fuck who makes them dinner, but I suppose their disappointment isn’t my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:14 PM
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I just remember hanging out with a close friend and her boyfriend during high school when I first heard that term. I was like “wait... what is that?” His reply was “it’s a chick who makes you go damn look at her body... but-her-face.” Something about it is just goofy but really sticks with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:40 AM
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When you look at the results for if only white women voted, Clinton still won but it’s not by a landslide. This year, voter turnout for women supporting the Republican Party. According to this article, statistics show that 46-55% of white female voters voted for Trump. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thecut.com/amp/2020/11/many-white-women-still-voted-for-trump-in-2020.html There were variations by race, but when you look at it through the scope of the racial majority in the country, that is si…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 09:40 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 09:14 PM
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Isn’t redistributionalism being championed by male politicians too? I don’t think there’s a sex divide there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 09:08 PM
1

Well, then what is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 09:00 PM
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Part of instilling equality is upholding it. We might have a lot of the same opportunities now but the role of feminism is starting to turn from legislative to cultural. How do we raise people to have perceptions of sex, and how can we approach culture in a manner that is neutral to the sex of individuals? Part of what I believe in is that women should be drafted, women should be held to the same standard as men in terms of sexual crimes and in the court of justice in general. There are advantag…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 06:32 PM
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I’m not saying it’s advice. If it’s harder for men to achieve this, it’s not because you’re men and unable to but because we don’t put as much attention to teaching young boys how to navigate social dynamics as much as we do young girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 05:00 PM
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I’m just saying that you’re pointing out that feminism is ending an era I’m well aware a lot of you yearn for because it meant you were guaranteed a wife as long as you got your shit together and could support a family. I think the shifts in the labor market are a result of a lot of other factors though, such as automation and economic instability. It also wouldn’t matter that we’re in the labor market so much if people decided to reproduce more responsibly. Birth rates are declining, but there’…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:55 PM
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That’s nice. I like being able to support myself so I don’t have to have children. I don’t like children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:39 PM
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This is off subject, but is your username literally “wolf autism” and if so that’s hilarious lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:20 PM
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Oh, I think sex is important in a relationship but I just don’t understand its place in the conversation other than maybe you referencing it as an example of the depth of vulnerability in a romantic relationship. You’re right in that maturity is not a factor of age and that plenty of grown women act horribly towards people they call friends. However, I think it’s stereotyping to assume that all or even the majority of women treat each other this way. I agree that there is no point to a romantic …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 07:47 AM
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Words of affirmation are my jam. Someone giving me a very heartfelt explanation of why they love or appreciate me makes me feel way happier than an expensive present. I’m working on my self esteem, so these words in themselves are a gift to me in a way because I sometimes can’t give that love to myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 06:57 AM
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Thank you! I think everyone needs to have that kind of support regardless of sex. I think men being socially conditioned to not seek or give it is the main reason this sub exists. In the last several days, it’s really clicked in my mind that the reason men are so distressed about the difficulties in dating in the modern era is partially because they saw how their fathers got most of their emotional security in marriage, which is something they’re struggling to obtain. I find it so weird so many …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 06:54 AM
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supposedly love and have sex with I love how the keyword is always sex. Bold of you to assume the nature of my relationships with female friends, but I usually talk about personal issues with close friends of both sexes. I used to be one of those “not like other girls” who would be all about how “less dramatic guys are” than girls. High school girls definitely can be back-stabby, but real women empower each other and learn to be direct with each other. I’m well aware a lot of guys on here are co…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 06:45 AM
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women destroyed them Could you present examples? Are you inferring to specific clubs or locations? stop destroying male only spaces I mean, Knights of Columbus is still open lol Free Mason Lodges are still also a thing, right? Once again, what safe spaces do you mean? you’re clueless to men and their discussions I remember guys getting weird about mundane things being gay when I was in middle school, but idk maybe you grow out of it. I have seen dudes discuss stuff, but from what I’ve observed i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 05:35 AM
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I can’t wait for the “well, are you not attractive” comments to pop up. Not all of us want a man showering money and gifts on us. My anti- love language is gift giving. I don’t want gifts and I don’t want to give them. I don’t like the idea of anyone spending an exorbitant amount of money on me because accepting expensive gifts can be a doorway for morally inept people to feel entitled to you. selfless bread winners That mentality is so strong on here, it’s like they’re not aware that the era of…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 12:39 AM
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In regards to my friend network, I’m neither boasting nor complaining. I’m expressing gratitude about all of the incredible men and women in my life that I can turn to in the spirit of friendship when I need it. I think you misunderstood my sentence about the tight knit social network... I was not saying men need an emotional support network of women but that they need to be able to have emotional support networks like them. I’ve read about how men tend to form less vulnerable, more closed off f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 12:34 AM
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I come on here to argue against people who are trying to use science (rather, pseudoscience) as a justification for their misogynistic attitudes. I also come on here to argue against all of the hype some of these guys make around beloved “female virginity” because I didn’t break away from the clutches of Catholicism just to stand by in the potential spreading of ideology that is meant to sexually repress people. In general, I come on here to argue against this image of sneakery and viciousness a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 12:21 AM
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I have never seen a scenario where the sex of the cheater somehow relieved them of any part of their responsibility in hurting their partner. You can argue “yas Queen” culture or whatever weird nonsense is trending on Twitter, but I’ve never seen this happen in real life. Usually, the person who cheated gets backed up or justified by their friends while everyone else quietly or not so quietly judges them, regardless of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 12:06 AM
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What about some of us who go Dutch? What about some of us who have effectively put just as much material cost into a relationship as the men we’ve dated? Do we not exist? And since we do, what is it that we took these men for a ride for?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 12:01 AM
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I feel like I’ve put something in motion, and I’m not 100% against it. Don’t forget to add an erotic alien abduction scene. That shit will sell.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 11:47 PM
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I would say having a deep voice for a woman and small breasts would probably let me pass as a young boy with the right haircut, but I feel like that demographic will also not be safe in that kind of Mad Max world...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 11:42 PM
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I read something about this recently and why people think suicide rates are higher post-divorce for men than women. I feel like a lot of the anger and misery on this sub would probably be negated (maybe cured) if a lot of these men had the same tight-knit social networks formed by their female peers. I have a whole array of both female and male friends I can turn to for support during hard times or to discuss my feelings with. I really hope that the coming generations show men becoming more will…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 11:36 PM
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But_ but that implies that opportunistic behavior as well as trying to get the best deal for one’s self is present in all humans and that it’s not solely inherent to pesky female scum! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 11:31 PM
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I’d say there is some variability though. There are guys I’ve met that are objectively average to less than average that can pull a bunch of chicks but less in the club scene and more in settings where it’s easier for people to talk in large groups. I think a lot of dudes underrate charisma, a really good sense of humor, and an attitude that says “I’m here for a good time, not a long time.” If you’re talking purely physical attraction without implications of body language or employing personalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 08:20 PM
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Lol I always did find the concept of a “butter face” to be amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 08:11 PM
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Really? I mean, I won’t discount your experiences, but most of the guys that I’m friends with have always said that face can make or break their attraction but that they’re willing to be more lenient with body.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 08:01 PM
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What does the average male in 2020 offer in exchange for complete or near complete life long sexual exclusivity? Say it louder for the people in the back. It used to be that men had to bring something to the table back when a woman’s father guarded her virginity. It was a bidding chip that insured the suitor children she was having were his, but in turn, he had to prove that his reputation and finances would uphold her as well as her family name. We don’t live in those barbaric times anymore but…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 04:42 PM
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Yeah, I don’t think they understand a lot of women who were virgins when they got married probably were stoned to death in the day because they didn’t have a hymen or had torn it but not bled a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 06:04 AM
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Fuck, dude... I want to address all of the things you just said, but the way your perception of women is colored tells me it’ll do no good. I will say though that I genuinely hope you find help with all of this vitriol you’re feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 05:11 AM
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I’m not mad at these guys for quitting dating, but I am saying that they have no reason for being misogynistic pricks and hating women when the thing they did wrong was to either pick someone who was not a good person or placing the source of their pain on an entire group of people instead of the one or few who actually caused the damage. There are terrible people from both sexes, but they don’t represent the entire sex. Stay away from women if pursuing them brings you more pain than good. Just …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 04:39 AM
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Dude... don’t even go this route. The only thing that overlaps for MGTOW and AA is addressing a specific obsession. While I’m inclined to think that working a twelve step wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world for anyone with a fixation affecting their life, I can’t tell you how almost insulting it is to compare substance addiction to relationship problems. I’m not saying break ups or relationships issues or broken hearts are not monumental or do not bring a whole host of pain and mental/ emot…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 03:58 AM
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The problem is that if people weren’t so gung-ho about getting married fast and making it a priority to not wind up alone, there would be less instances where the kids are even brought into the picture. You should be able to tell what a person is like before you marry them, and if they aren’t loving you for who you are, then you just need to end that situation. Not to mention, growing up in a household where the adults are clearly engaged in an unhealthy relationship will be more detrimental to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 05:56 AM
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This kind of makes me feel bad for guys who maintain this mentality or were raised in it. You can’t change someone. It’s not failure or being a loser to have self respect and walk away from someone who doesn’t love you or isn’t treating you the way a partner needs to treat you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 05:35 AM
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I’m at a point I’d just rather be alone than in a situation where myself and the other person are not happy, compatible, and healthy together.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 03:25 AM
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I guess I don’t know why it has to be a “thing” or why it’s so discussed on here. If someone uses sex as a way to manipulate you, they just weren’t the right person. I also don’t meet a lot of women out trying to hook men who they aren’t attracted to just for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 12:25 AM
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I don’t see why men who experience this can’t just walk away from the woman. If he feels like she’s using sex to control him, she’s probably not a good person. He doesn’t have to stay in that situation though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 12:05 AM
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I frankly don’t care if men are banging and passing up on single moms out to shark a provider because who people want to bang but not marry is their choice. It’s not sexist to have standards or a preference. It is a jerk move to use someone for sex if they expect more, but if they’re looking to use someone for money they likely deserve it. I will argue though that men can and do age just as poorly as women. I think there are guys who were less attractive in their twenties who focus on their appe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:22 PM
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I’m well aware the market gets shittier and shittier with age because it’s already worse than it was when I was in college, but I don’t see why people on here can’t just avoid any of the single moms out to nab a provider. And if the market is almost mostly consisting of them, then accept that the time to find a mate is probably over. You can always get a vasectomy and bang all of the single moms until you’re wrinkly or just wack it alone in peace with lots of money you get to spend on yourself. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:04 PM
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26 F, scientist/ science grad student, single
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 10:48 PM
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Maybe I’m in a minority, but I literally do not meet women like this. I’m convinced that the guys who come on here talking about this phenomenon of women banging a bunch of hot dudes then trapping some average looking, well-paid chump into a marriage are only dating trashy hot women. The majority of women I meet are literally just wanting to find someone who they share a deep connection with and mutual sexual attraction to. They don’t want to be with someone who’s just going to blow their money …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 10:44 PM
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I agree with this. It irritates me so much that some of the men on here seem dead set against feminism because they think encouraging promiscuity = encouraging making decisions for yourself. You can’t win with these guys. If these guys magically started getting more attention from the opposite sex, I highly doubt a lot of them would hold themselves to the low n count bullshit they insist women need to live by. Feminism portrayed in modern media can seem very “pro-promiscuity” because modern medi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 06:09 PM
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I can concur with you that I don’t do this either but will also take a stab at it. In my mind, when someone of either sex makes more serious prospects wait, if they aren’t stringing the person along then they’re doing it because they compartmentalized two different parts of their life. They genuinely want to pursue the more serious prospect and would prefer for sex to not get in the way of the stage where the two people are still evaluating one another and trying to understand if they make sense…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 01:45 AM
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I got into it with someone else on this sub recently because they were implying that not knowing how to orgasm or get yourself to orgasm is your fault and that it’s pretty simple if you just have a mirror. They apparently also grew up in a highly religious situation, and I was surprised to say the least. I feel like it took me forever to get over the taboo of being able to figure things out myself. The education system is a joke, but growing up in a religious school to me makes it much worse bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:36 PM
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Fellow survivor of Catholic school? I only attended from kindergarten to eighth grade, so I got sex education from public high school but never got an anatomical discussion from either because high school probably assumed we’d already learned it and there was no way Catholic school was going to teach us anything beyond the fact that we were going to menstruate and grow boobs and get body hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:23 PM
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I will leave that to you haha I decided to put off dating for a few years even though I’m old AF by some people’s standard on here, but I will send some Midwestern good vibes your way. God knows this part of the US needs better OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 08:55 PM
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I mainly left OLD because I realized that now isn’t the time to date and not for awhile, but the other reason was for this very problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 07:35 AM
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I mean, I am mostly going off of what I was told growing up. I used to be told that men were less likely to approach women who they perceived as being “too intelligent” because it meant that they probably wouldn’t be as easy. I always thought it was kind of selling guys short and assumed there were other reasons behind it, but my reason for valuing intelligence in a partner is not about feeling like they’ll be less intimidated by me and more about the fact that I find mental connection to be ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 06:56 AM
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Midwest On the flip end of the coin, it feels like Tinder was also a nightmare for women too. It was mostly country boys, wannabe cowboys, those weird obscure guys who kind of slipped through the cracks that you knew in HS who were nice but kind of turned into pseudo-hippies after trying hallucinogens a few times, objectively attractive jocks with irritating edgelord personalities, and guys who were all around nice, smart, and decent looking but who struggled in conversation because they felt se…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 06:42 AM
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Ah, yes, I can understand this. Noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 04:55 AM
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You know, analyzing some of the dialogue I’ve found on this conversation and introspecting on it further, there probably are a lot more men out there of equal intelligence. I was probably wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 04:44 AM
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You know, I was kind of on board for the whole not equating degrees to intelligence thing until you suggested that most of the women getting degrees were subpar intelligence, and that is where I got off the train. I think the reason there are more female graduates is because they tend to receive more encouragement and emotional support in early stages. However, I think that implying that the only reason we have so many women graduates now is because it’s easier to achieve certain degrees is erro…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 04:03 AM
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I’d say this is a valid point. I think part of the university hype and at least from my own reasoning on it is that it can be kind of helpful in narrowing down which people are more likely to be interested in intellectual pursuits, so with your point given, it makes me wonder how women can find and access the latter kind of men you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 03:56 AM
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You know, I won’t even argue against this because that does play a role in why a bachelors in anything besides physics or engineering isn’t worth a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 03:30 AM
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Huh. Maybe there’s more prospects for women in my range than I thought... I’m just going mostly by a few articles I read about how the graduate rate is every 3 men for 4 women. It basically described it as “musical chairs” getting educated men, but I suppose the other thing to take into account is that not all men who graduate are above average just like not all men who don’t go to college will only be an average IQ. I definitely know that there’s a few things to consider here, but I’m mostly go…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 03:21 AM
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When I look at this though, I’m assuming that there’s a higher number of men who might be extreme genius level and then extremely below average. The Wikipedia thing I read was more of a skim, but is it that there is just a higher proportion of men at extremes or how much does it equal out at various points above and below average? Is it that there are just more women at the same level intelligence as me since it’s not too far from average, or would we still have plenty of male counterparts?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 02:57 AM
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I just looked this up now. I had never heard of this until now, but it explains a bit... that being said though, I’d say that there is still quite a bit of overlap between the IQs of the majority of male and female populations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 02:47 AM
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Okay, I understand what you mean and can agree on those points. Regardless of sex, I think that lack of self introspection is unhealthy and a very unattractive trait. I do see the “perfect as you are” narrative aimed at modern audiences, especially in regards to women, and agree that that message needs to be careful how it transmits its meaning. We do need to always be ourselves and not change key things about ourselves for other people, but we also need to be willing to identify, come to terms …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 10:29 PM
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I don’t see how this is a feel good message. The message is that a lot of intelligent women are not able to find equally intelligent partners or at least partners who equally value intellectualism. I don’t see how a “brains match” doesn’t exist if a looks match does. I agree that if we want to attract people we do have to play by the physical rules of attraction. However, my question is if the couples you mentioned mutually agreed to not compete with each other intellectually to avoid bad blood,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 09:43 PM
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Yeah, men not preferring intelligent women is a story as old as time. I’m not going to say I’m any form a of a genius and have met plenty of people of both sexes who are more intelligent than me. I did test high enough in IQ to fall into the gifted range though, so I’m going mostly from the vantage point of someone who is solidly above average but not like extraordinarily intelligent. Thinking on it, I’d say that it probably has both aided and hindered my love life. I think more men value intell…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 08:56 PM
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Well, Dudette, I’m not telling you my story because I care if you care. I’m telling you my story because I think you’re really oversimplifying something that is complex; I’m more likely to entertain something with anecdotal examples, so I assume everyone functions in this way too. I assume that the other person will take what I’ve said and understand the context between the lines, but maybe I’m asking too much. I’m saying that just reading up on it then practicing it isn’t always going to be the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 08:32 PM
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No, it’s because I want someone who is more likely to meet my intellectual requirements, which is more likely in someone more educated than less. I assume it’s the same for other educated women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 07:43 PM
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That’s nice. I’ll be sure to tell that to the humanities students who slaves away writing essays constantly, which is something I hardly ever had to do in my major. Even less practical degrees still require a level of intelligence, hard work, and discipline to achieve. That being said, I’m a biochemistry and molecular biology double major, and the pool still looks less than thrilling to me. There are plenty of attractive single women in my biochemistry grad program precisely because of this prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 07:28 PM
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Dudette, I’m going to stop you right here. I experienced my first orgasm at age 15 from unknowingly dry humping my boyfriend’s leg while making out. That being said, it took me years after to perfect masturbation. I wasn’t able to get myself off by myself until like 20. I initially could only masturbate by dry humping a partner because I had such little understanding of this enigmatic sensation. I wasn’t even aware there was a hole that wasn’t my urethra until like 18 because Catholic school was…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 07:12 PM
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This is inherently funny because statistics show that educated women are experiencing a deficit in equally educated peers. This means that there are a lot of single college grad women. I myself am a part of this statistic. If you don’t find someone in college, your odds really go down as a single educated woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 06:23 PM
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I just think the “changing with someone” thing is kind of risky. Having a “life change” partner does not imply you will grow together. You might start out with common interests and goals but grow into completely incompatible directions. If would have chosen a husband at 20, he probably would’ve been a wrong choice for me. I also think people need to develop alone. I think we really downplay this a lot. I’ve been single for almost exactly two years, and it was for the best. This time let me work …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 06:07 PM
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That’s a lot of pressure on people who are barely 3 years out of high school... the reason people shouldn’t marry at 20 is not just because of financial instability but that you go through a lot of changes in this decade of life. Who I was at age 20 is leaps and bounds away from who I am going on 27. Even with a low n count, I was not even close to being ready to marry then and probably won’t be ready for a few years now. This is because I was still in the process of becoming an adult and learni…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 05:53 PM
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I hate that I want to fap to this now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 05:26 PM
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I’d just like to chime in on this because it actually came up in a discussion I had recently. I don’t think women value getting an orgasm out of a sexual situation as much as men. However, that doesn’t mean they don’t enjoy it as much. In my own personal observations, a woman is more likely to rate a situation as successful if she had an orgasm, but I think that we’re maybe more conditioned (and to an extent, biologically wired) to find gratification in the idea of something or the essence of a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 05:52 AM
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I think that’s the Midwest and South in general. A vast majority of my classmates are married, engaged, or in a partnership heading there. My best friend from high school, myself, and a couple of mutual friends we have from high school are a few of the people I know for sure are still single. These regions are generally terrible for finding partnership if it’s not something you want until later in life because o think the conservative and religious tones tend to encourage early marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 03:33 AM
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u/lightfive I’m putting up your bat signal now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 03:21 AM
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Fellow ENFP here. Word of advice though: our sub is a shit show and not worth visiting. I would know because I’m the kid that got added on a few years ago and subsequently gave up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 03:20 AM
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I may or may not look for them, but let’s just say the fandom wanted to rectify the fact that we never got to see Mustang and Hawkeye fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 02:44 AM
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Hey now... I may be a cat lady who has possibly hit some kind of wall, but I am in my 20s and have loved bodice rippers for awhile. The Rogue Files are my current interest, but Keeper of the Heart made me think about space barbarians in a way that I cannot unsee. That being said, I don’t know why people don’t read them for the sheer comedy value. Romance novels are some of the most absurd and funny pieces of literature I’ve ever read.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 02:23 AM
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I came here to say this. If I want to rub one out, I’m going to my imagination to get exactly what want out of it, or I’m reaching for a bodice ripper. In all honesty, a lot of us women don’t want to watch some big titty Brenda getting a nut blown on her face by some subpar, overweight half-bald looking motherfucker who is silent and red faced with a neutral expression for ten minutes as he rails her while she moans like a dying sheep.” I want to read about two Victorian idiots getting it on in …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 10:44 PM
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Oh haha thanks. I haven’t watched it for awhile. I’d agree 75% is low too, but that probably is just with the average person with a strong desire for marriage in mind. I just know that if being upset with them, them being upset at me, or arguing starts to feel like it’s a part of the routine instead of an occasional occurrence, I’m done.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 09:41 PM
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I’d say yes and no. I’ve known an array of people who have all kinds of different perspectives on these two things with certain similar features. I’ve known people who want a very Christian, traditional marriage, people who want to stay single while getting some here and there for the rest of their lives, and people in between. I’m probably mostly normal in what I want besides the fact that I would like to not live with an SO, even if we get married. I don’t want children, but I think that’s bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 09:31 PM
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I think there’s a difference between making sacrifices and sacrificing your ego. Question 1: I once heard that if you’re not happy 75% of the time in a relationship at least (getting a solid passing C), then it’s probably not worth it. I would consider sacrificing desire to be a situation where one or both parties are not making compromises or living up to ones they’ve tried to make in order to meet both their own needs and their partner’s needs to the point where one or both parties feel some k…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 09:02 PM
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Some people would argue that it depends on the individual person, but I think it more importantly comes down to the combination of two people. Some people together have the capacity to achieve true romantic love without of sex. Some couples don’t feel it until they have sex. Some combinations of people can have sex and walk away from the experience appreciating each other but not in love. A relationship or fleeting interaction takes on its own life because it’s a unique encounter between two uni…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 06:31 PM
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That’s a really interesting and insightful take from both of your parents. Thinking on it, I always like to hear what the people from previous generations have to say in favor of and against how stricter gender roles played out in their lives. My father comes from a traditional Catholic family where my grandmother did work a little but my biological grandfather (who died when my dad was one) and then the man she remarried took care of the finances. She has openly stated though that she had alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 04:49 AM
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Ah, a Scandinavian country?? Or Europe. I once saw an article on how the Netherlands handles sexual education and thought it was very good. TBH, my biggest problem with some of the discussions on here are that a lot of the women don’t sound educated. Not to make implications on individuals of course, but the general trend tends to be that lower socioeconomic environments foster gender role preferences in my experiences. I don’t think a lot of this has to do with “biological” elements (as a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 01:46 AM
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As a Midwestern American who attended nine years of Catholic School, I can confirm that some of us were embarrassingly undereducated. I really think the key to a lot of this is awareness and thinking ahead. I was innately nervous and future oriented anyway, but I feel like a combo of for-the-moment mentality with bad or limited education really plays into some of these dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 12:08 AM
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Maybe I’m only skimming, but did anything in either of these studies look at the education level of the people sampled?? The first things that popped into my mind was how educated the individuals are, what were their socioeconomic situations growing up, and how much education did they acquire over the course of time in comparison to their behaviors with condoms and the opposite sex. It might be an interesting analysis on sexual risk taking in regards to attraction and how that plays out against …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 11:57 PM
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The majority of my exes were guys that I formed casual friendships with first, but I’ve always been pretty good at forging platonic relationships with men. My best friend started out as a minor crush that was not reciprocated in high school but we still felt drawn to each other even when it became apparent that he wasn’t interested in me as anything romantic. Now, when my mom still jokes I’ll marry him, it makes me feel physically nauseous because I’ve come to see him as a close friend who is pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 04:35 PM
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Because the fact that they put leaves over a couple of cocks detracts from the other intriguing elements of seeing the human body represented in art... Not to mention, some of the art that got censored by the Catholic Church has been or is being restored.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 04:08 PM
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Sketching nude models was one of my favorite parts of a drawing class I took. The woman herself was a beautiful little yoga instructor, and I found myself fascinated and in awe of being able to see how her muscles flexed and stretched under her skin. As someone who has stayed at nude friendly camping sites, I think nakedness is way too over sexualized. Having sex isn’t the only reason people get naked like using a bed can mean sex, sleeping, resting, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 07:00 PM
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When you say gay my dude, that means gay and not bisexual. That being said, a relationship is hinged on trust, including trust with members of the opposite sex. If a man can’t trust their partner to be faithful with other men and have never given them a reason to not trust them, the dude shouldn’t be in a relationship. The same goes for a woman in those shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 05:44 PM
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I see from this same post that you’re religious. Kinda takes me back to the days of good ole’ Catholic School where we didn’t know what masturbation was but were told not to do it, and that internal struggle that results from wanting to Google “sex” because you have no idea how it even works but you’re too afraid to because it might be a sin. But anyway, whatever floats your repressed boat my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 05:46 AM
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I’m not sure how much weight one person’s voice can provide, but I have mentioned here and there that I don’t understand the height fetish thing. I personally would prefer someone closer to 5’10” but I have met plenty of women who for some reason don’t like it. As I said, a person’s preference is their preference. I wasn’t necessarily telling this guy he can’t have a virgin preference, but I was explaining why the women here perceive it as something negative, which is because it seems to be abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 05:24 AM
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I wanna make this game. The title would be “Best Laid Plans.” The goal is to level up by getting game points from having sex or starting/ being in romantic relationships/ marrying. People you bang or date have their own stats that correlate with the points you get. However, the challenges can include contracting STDs or illegitimate children by non-safe sex encounters (you can use points to purchase types of contraceptives), losing points by getting turned down, the various negative consequences…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 03:01 AM
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Ding ding ding we have a winner. I like to think that getting a certain set of genitals is like having a game character randomly selected for you; you get a number of strengths and weaknesses that come with it. Some people are better at playing certain characters than others. It’s a free for all. Everyone is looking out for their own best interest, so regardless of your sex you want someone hot. If you gave a bunch of random men the choice to bang the moderately attractive girl from down the str…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 02:15 AM
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I mean, it makes sense that more men than women would mean more “spoken for” women which means less single women to accidentally have a whoops and become a single mom. Not really sure why any of this is surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 02:07 AM
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Never seen it, and I was friends with a lot of the sex positive liberal arts students in college. Hook ups were usually fueled by booze/ weed and had a variety of outcomes for the attractiveness of the hook up partner. If they had a crush on someone that had the potential of being reciprocated, that’s who they went for. If it was a case of unrequited love, a rebound hook up could happen while partying. I’ve known some people who might’ve had relationships with some more objectively attractive pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 02:02 AM
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I mean, a preference is a preference. You don’t owe any sexually experienced women the time of day just as no virgin women owe it to you to be your girlfriend. You’re allowed to pick people based on your own set of likes and dislikes. That being said... other people are allowed to point out to you how fucking weird they think your preference is. I get that people prefer people who are less promiscuous because there are factors regarding safety with it, such as STDs as you mentioned. However, unl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 07:42 PM
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Exactly. I think that most feminists have an egalitarian take on things, but I have met ones that are like some of the horror stories on here who claim to be feminist but also expect the man to treat her to dinner and all kinds of different things. Like TRP, I feel like FDS has some okay fundamental concepts that are mostly platitudes on self respect and not being desperate dealing with the opposite sex, but some of the women on FDS take it too far with getting men to fork out money just like TR…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 05:39 PM
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Lol most of the nurses at my alma mater were the stereotypical basic white girls in a sorority.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 09:37 PM
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Now that sounds like my kind of man. Intelligence is extremely sexy to me. I think a lot of guys think that women who prefer to date college educated men are after the money, but I feel like it helps weed out men who don’t prioritize intellect or intellectual pursuits. I kind of find it attractive when a man doesn’t enjoy social situations but still successfully navigates them. I remember biting my nails taking ex-boyfriends out with friends because I was afraid of how they’d embarrass me by not…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 09:28 PM
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It’s just a manifestation of the good ole’ Madonna-Whore Complex with a new take. Women who are eager to have sex with a man disgust him because he thinks it means she has done this with many other men and is “ruined.” Women who withhold sex though, instead of being seen as frigid prudes as they had been, are just seen as “picky, Chad-hunting whores.” Whore if you do, whore if you don’t. Some of this thinking angers me, but it also saddens me because it is almost as if some of these guys don’t t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 09:12 PM
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That not all women and feminists are unreasonable and just want to have their cake and eat it too. Some of us believe women should be a part of a draft if one happens. Some of us go Dutch on dates because we think that if we’re going to shift towards leaving gender roles, we need to leave ALL gender roles, including the ones that are beneficial to us. Some of us think women need to receive equal punishment as men for sexual offenses. I don’t want an educated husband because I’m expecting him to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 07:31 PM
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Thank you. I can’t say how many times I’ve observed people of both sexes trash an entire half of the population because of their genitals instead of realizing that maybe all of their bad experiences are coming from their inability to prioritize better traits when pursuing partners as well as the complete inability to understand how their own actions/ behaviors affect others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 07:11 PM
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Woman chiming in. I love gender neutral clothing because it’s just designed to be functional. I also go out of my way to buy men’s flannel because it’s not some gauze thin pink-plaid monstrosity. I would say I’m a part of the “women need actual pockets in their pants” camp but my ire goes a lot deeper. I used to buy my jeans from a western store outlet, and they were REAL FUCKING JEANS. They didn’t have crosses bedazzled on the butt cheeks, they were made of a starchy material that didn’t just s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 07:03 PM
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I hate that musicals are for “gays and women” too because I had the most fun with all of the straight guys when I did productions back in my high school days. My two best male friends are a pair of movie buffs who watch any and everything but also love musicals. When Zima got put out into stock again, they both couldn’t get enough of it. One of them has been my best friend since HS and was the lead in every musical; he’s nervous and sensitive and touchy feely, so a lot of people always thought t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 06:55 PM
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Lol okay. Because every guy I dated was totally a Chad and not some kind of anime-loving, cosplaying, athletically challenged dork-knob./s The guys who think all women only want Chads (which is just a stupid term to begin with) are the kinds of men who only go for “Stacies.” Someone made a post about hipsters bang hipsters, which is pretty straight on. It follows that nerds bang nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 06:58 PM
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Lol this was kind of my college experience too. One thing I think is that hipsters, being more body positive among their liberal traits, are usually less self conscious than frat guys and willing to just put themselves out there. It also makes them less fickle about the conventional attractiveness of their sex partners. Hipsters want to approach sex from the point of view that it’s an experience not an accomplishment. On top of the fact that they can almost always bag hipster girls like you said…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 07:57 AM
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The fact that this basic logic seems to evade some men on here really frankly astonishes me. Most of the dudes on here would choose an Insta hottie over an average looking, awkward egghead-ette if they were given the choice between them. It feels like a lot of these dudes think women are the only ones who reject looks matches... I don't see how the mindset is to get mad instead of get good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 11:38 PM
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This. But I think it extends beyond just the concept of SMV, RMV, or men. I think if everyone realized that this isn’t a game of genes and more about self-improvement, society itself would change for the better. People get mad when they’re not as “innately” desirable as the next person over, but I don’t think a lot of people understand that “high value” men and women usually put in the work to be high value. I think people on here also highly underestimate the value of charisma. I’ve seen some s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:53 PM
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Absolutely. My only requirement would be that the people interested in utilizing my eggs for potential offspring would be notified of my history of mental/ physical health. My body is in pretty good shape besides a little sculiosis and seasonal asthma, but I’m more worried about them understanding that I have chronic anxiety with occasional bouts of depression, quite possibly a form of OCD, and ADHD. I think people should know what they’re getting themselves into as well as any potential sufferi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:35 PM
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It is 100% an Attack on Titan parody! I was really into it when I made my account. He had a LOT of problems. What I’m trying to highlight I guess is that insecurity can get bad if people don’t get a grip on it. It’s okay to be a little intimidated, but it’s not okay to ever take it out on your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 12:23 AM
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My previous relationship had this problem. I’d only ever had sex with one person before him (a boyfriend in a three year long relationship) but had messed around and made out with a handful of other people. He was completely virginal besides making out. He was already insecure and emotionally unstable so this threw alcohol onto an already toxic relationship. If anything so much reminded him of the fact that I’d had sex before him or been intimate with other people, he would take it out on me by …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 12:06 AM
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I think it’s just about learning how to appreciate people with the understanding that even if a grand romance unfolds, nobody will ever be perfect for you and that they are human. I think it also helps when you start to become extra vigilant for red flags. This can also kind of “ruin the person” for you, but like all things there is a balance that can be reached.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 07:30 AM
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I feel bad for the guys who are here clearly because they've experienced such a strong sense of rejection it's injured them. Whether they know it or not, women can experience this too. Myself included. I just lose any form of pity for the ones who jump all onboard for the "women are dumb Chad-fucking troglodytes who need to learn their place and fuck me." Where the Red Pill idealism ALMOST strikes gold is the idea of don't get mad get smart. But I sometimes think their way of getting smart and j…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 12:52 AM
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The other thing I wonder is how the people who are more dedicated to this group's conceptualization of the world react when they encounter women who don't entirely fit the scope they've relegated them to. Some women prefer "beta" looking guys, some aren't looking for "resources", and some might even be devout about going Dutch on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 12:12 AM
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I think this movie is a perfect example of how two people who are assholes for completely different reasons have to make each other suffer in order to develop. JGL has to learn that it’s hurtful to one’s self and your partner when you fall in love with the idea of them, while ZD is an entire lesson on why settling not only hurts you but is disrespectful to the other person. I see people of both sexes point out how this movie demonstrates ways the opposite sex sucks but to me it seems like a love…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:58 PM
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100% this. I’m astounded at how many users on here buy into pseudoscientific evolutionary psychology nonsense. One thing I notice is that a lot of dudes on here that are hard into TRP try to justify primordial animal behavior attributed to our ancestors as directly translating into the modern day, which just isn’t accurate. A lot of the behavior that is primal is the kind that is more reflexive, such as our eyes being drawn to certain parts of the body in assessing others or certain physiologica…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:12 PM
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This. Well, less so law school students maybe. I knew a LOT of pre-med students, and most of them had an established relationship or were married by the time they went to med school. This isn’t to say they aren’t desirable (a lot of them are sexually attractive, male and female), but the majority of these students were either outright insufferable or almost there. People say you can make up for shortcomings by being really really hot, but at the end of the day someone who is annoying/ hard to to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:11 PM
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Everything pertaining to his melodrama with pillows makes me lose it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 04:31 AM
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I’m like Jay Blizerian. I wanna fuck everyone. Well, this was an unexpected Big Mouth reference I am surprised but not unpleased to run across in this sub lol but on a side note, I feel like a lot of people don’t really talk about this character when discussing the show, but I think he’s arguably one of the funniest fucking characters in the show.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 04:26 AM
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I did not expect a comment from you here, but that’s probably a likely things lmao all that really matters tho is that everyone can live in virtual paradise with their anime waifus.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:11 AM
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With OLD and social media being the primary dating mechanism of our generation, the folks with "mass appeal" are finding the most success. Just wait until virtual reality rises up to blow everyone out of the water.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 06:05 AM
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This struck me too in the comment. Detaching hurt feelings from rejection to see the perspective of the rejector can be difficult. We all want to be wanted by the people we want, but it’s just not a practical concept in reality. The moment I put my entitled attitude in check was when I reflected on how it felt to live in a culture where I have the freedom to reject suitors that I’m not at all interested in dating because it made me realize that every single one of us, men and women, will be the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 11:05 PM
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This is one of the most sane things I’ve seen on this sub, and I thank you for it. I have no idea where I fall on the attractiveness scale, but I gave up on fixating on whether or not I’m “competitive” with other single women because I’ve had some dudes completely disagree with me about girls I think are attractive. Yeah, there is a general consensus on certain things that aren’t seen as attractive, such as people who don’t take care of themselves or groom well, but I’ve seen a whole host of peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:49 PM
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Damn. This was a Nagasaki level mic drop...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 05:20 AM
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I mean, not to be that guy, but Twilight was written by a woman who’s apart of a misogynistic religious community (Mormon) where it’s easier for female abuse to go unchecked through the guise of “God requires men to be dominant protectors and women to be submissive, fragile objects needing shielding”, especially the abuse in Twilight where it’s more centered on controlling behavior towards the female MC but not necessarily outright physical abuse. On the other hand, Fifty Shades of Grey is liter…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 10:32 PM
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This. This has been 90% of my dating experience. And they’re usually really clingy and never give you any space.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/19 02:04 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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