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| 2 | Starting to think I ONLY want to date people I already know at least a little bit rather than approaching strangers.I feel you man. I started out with cold approach, and although I became relatively effective at it, I ultimately found it to be somewhat inefficient. I found I ended up wasting time on girls that I would ultimately end up not liking very much. The process also resulted in many girls who got their hopes up, getting hurt. This is why I ended up moving online. You may consider doing the same and here are some reasons why: 1.) People on okcupid or tinder are single and looking. This is not the case … | /r/seduction | 29/01/15 04:06 AM |
| 1 | This. This so much.No. Your not getting it. There is a difference a someone who chooses to display her body freely versus someone who wears a shirt depicting possibly offensive carictures. In either case I think the point is that these are not really appropriate choices for work attire. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/14 05:28 PM |
| 1 | This. This so much.You have also never been destroyed publicly for a bullshit non-issue I personally have not, but this kind of thing is not uncommon for people placed in the public eye. Can you imagine how many people probably tell Kanye that he's an arrogant hobbit fucking gay fish? Does he appoligize for being one? Fuck no! With every decision Obama makes, you can bet hundreds of people will get pissed off and make a stink about it. Do you think Obama can afford to apoligize to all the people who disagree with … | /r/MensRights | 17/11/14 02:56 PM |
| 1 | This. This so much.I bet these people would not be offended if some female scientist would give an interview dressed like one of the women on his shirt. This is the difference between having a black character in a movie who happens to fulfill a couple stereotypes, versus what Michael Bay did in transformers 2 with those twins. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/14 02:33 PM |
| 0 | This. This so much.I want to reiterate that I personally do not find the shirt offensive nor do I think he should not get to wear the shirt. I am simply stating that it is understandable that someone could be offended by the images on the shirt, and it is within their right to state their disapproval just as it is within the rights of someone to wear that shirt. You can't seriously say that being publicly criticized is as bad as being raped. I don't even know how begin to respond to that. I've never been raped but… | /r/MensRights | 16/11/14 07:58 PM |
| 0 | This. This so much.Being criticized does not make you a victim. People are allowednto object to others decisions. Also, what does victim blaming mean? Is it not ok to say that someones actions lead to logical consequences? | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 08:12 PM |
| 4 | This. This so much.It is ok to only value a baseball player for their basball abilities because that is their only functional value as a baseball player. It not ok to only value a women (or man for that matter) for their physical attractiveness because physical attractiveness is only one small facet of what it means to be a woman or man. This describes what people mean when they speak of objectification. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 07:30 PM |
| 0 | This. This so much.Yes i think it is ok to criticize a womans choices as well. If a woman wears clothing that atteacts unwanted attention in an unsafe area, I would feel comfortable saying "you shouldnt have done that and should reconsider your actions next time.", I would not however say "you deserved to be raped because of your decision." Remember, this man was criticized, NOT raped for his choices. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 07:23 PM |
| 0 | This. This so much.Its not ok to wrong them, but its totally fine to disagree with and criticize his choice of attire. EDIT: I also dont think he should have had to apologize for it. It distracts from the actual important event. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 06:41 PM |
| 6 | This. This so much.I agree with you that that (along with the fact that his friend made it for him) was the reason why he wore it, but that still sends a questionable message. It says "These are the kinds of women I value. Ones drawn to unrealistic proportions, dressed and posed provacatively." Its not a statement he was trying to make, but its the sociatial idea that it perpetuates. Its a little different than saying I value baseball players for their ability to play baseball. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 06:39 PM |
| -1 | This. This so much.Dude, you dont know what the feminists did to him after the interview.... | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 05:51 PM |
| 2 | This. This so much.Maybe Offensive was not the clearest term there. Skimpy clothing can be offensive to ones ideas of modesty (which is their own problem because modesty is personal issue) while stereotypical caricatures are offensive to ones ideas of equality (which is everyone's problem because it is an interpersonal issue.) | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 05:45 PM |
| 27 | This. This so much.Yes that too! That's for catching that hyperbole, officer! | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 05:18 PM |
| 9 | This. This so much.Yeah that's what I was saying. Wearing skimpy clothing is not the same as wearing offensive clothing (I.e. Black face or caricaturizations of any group). | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 04:51 PM |
| 19 | This. This so much.Still not the same. The difference being the the hoody does not satirize a group while the short on question can be argued to do so. The hoody may make you look like a gang member, but the shirt displays caricatures of a group which said group may find offensive. That is what was meant by objectified. We could instead say stereotyped if that helps. Imagine if it was stereotypical caricatures of another group. What if it had pictures of Jews with big noses and a Yamaka or Chinese with buck teeth … | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 04:46 PM |
| 264 | This. This so much.At first I was like "damn son, that's a great point!" but then I recognized where the analogy breaks down. The woman in dressing in a way that objectifies herself. This guy is dressing in a way that objectifies another group. The analogy at hand would be more akin to "She CHOSE to wear black face going through a shitty, poor neighborhood. She made her bed, now she has to lay in it" I personally think that the complaints about the shirt are a load of horse shit and that some people just kind of s… | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 03:58 PM |
| 2 | Looks and money DO matter! Sex differences in mate attraction are an illusion! People have no idea what they want in a mate! Psychology drops some truth bombs about attraction.Yeah I know it's super obvious. It just runs counter to so much seduction dogma that says looks and money don't matter. The really interesting part is the gender similarity. It's usually touted to physical attractiveness just isn't that important to women, however, the data shows that women value looks just as much as men. Yes there are many other factors at play, but it's helpful to know that improving upon physical appearance actually can give you a significant boost over other guys who may ha… | /r/seduction | 23/04/14 09:09 PM |
| 1 | The art of persuasion in 59 Seconds.I've never watched these before but, these vids are pretty sick! This one would make for a good cold reading. The left brain or right brain test. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDNsePOQVzU | /r/seduction | 23/02/14 06:45 PM |
| -1 | Example of max level PUA. Worth the read. No seriously I can't stress this enough, fucking read it.Although John seems like a good guy and has a pretty kick ass life philosophy, this; John seemed like a battery that could not hold a charge. Like he could only survive by constantly drawing energy from his surroundings. As we talked, he’d constantly stop me mid-sentence, so he could approach a girl. verge's on pathological. I presume this is only how he appears to be from the outside. Someone who is that reliant on external forces to sustain their energy and wellbeing would not be able to maint… | /r/seduction | 07/02/14 03:51 PM |
| 26 | Best Approach to Gaming Girls in a College Class?Game the whole class. When I step up to a girl that Im interested from my class, most of the work is already done. They know who I am and what Im about and thats because I treat the class as a stage for demonstrating positive qualities like intelligence, dominance, passion, and humor. Of course it really depends what kind of class it is, but if the class facilitates discussion you should definitely try to be one of the top participants in the class. | /r/seduction | 12/01/14 09:36 PM |
| 3 | Best Approach to Gaming Girls in a College Class?Hey if it works, it works. The reason she agrees to it doesn't really matter. The point is just to get her in a situation that is can facilitate conversation between the two of you (something you can't exactly do during class). | /r/seduction | 12/01/14 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Hey r/seduction, Im a recently graduated Psych student Im collecting data to create a model for Stages of development in pick up.Yes the things you are saying are true. Amount of time in the game does make a difference, and people do have a lot of individual difference in their sticking points. I am not trying to argue against that. What Im saying is that in addition to those obvious factors, stage of life also has a significant impact in determining what sticking points one has. Maybe I can make this more clear to you by giving a couple examples. At 16 or 18 or 21, (depending on where you live) you will reach a point whe… | /r/seduction | 11/10/13 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Hey r/seduction, Im a recently graduated Psych student Im collecting data to create a model for Stages of development in pick up.Im not really drawing much from the specific content of Freud's or Adler's theories. They simply provided the conceptual framework and inspiration for my own investigation. Im not trying to make a formal study right but since you seem to be interested in where this could be going in the future. My main goal right now is to get a bunch of sticking point that people run into. Once I have a decent list I will turn it into multiple choice response measure so that it will be more systematized. | /r/seduction | 11/10/13 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Hey r/seduction, Im a recently graduated Psych student Im collecting data to create a model for Stages of development in pick up.Here's what I mean by sticking point: What single thing do you think is holding you back the most in game right now. For example, my biggest sticking point is that I will emotionally hypnotize myself and jump into a relationship too easily because it is the comfortable thing to do. Other sticking points might be. Failure to escalate Can't reach conversational sticking point Number flakes LMR ect... | /r/seduction | 11/10/13 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Hey r/seduction, Im a recently graduated Psych student Im collecting data to create a model for Stages of development in pick up.Agreed. I am aware that early psychoanalytics had a lot of inaccuracies in their specifics. However this does not discount the whole idea of developmental stages. Im only loosely using Freud, Adler, and Jung as conceptual frameworks for my own idea. | /r/seduction | 11/10/13 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Hey r/seduction, Im a recently graduated Psych student Im collecting data to create a model for Stages of development in pick up.You raise a lot of good points and I appreciate your input. Although I agree that time involved in the pick-up, motivation, and active learning all play very important roles in development in game, I also suspect that there is a universal pattern of adult social development, based on biologically guided and culturally prescribed life transitions. I believe that these universal life transitions give rise to specific constellations of sticking-points at specific stages of life. I feel like some pe… | /r/seduction | 11/10/13 04:27 PM |
| 1 | Hey r/seduction, Im a recently graduated Psych student Im collecting data to create a model for Stages of development in pick up.Here are my own responses. 1.)23 2.) Seattle 3.) 2-3 (I go only out to the club or bar 1 night a week with the explicit intention of meeting girls Im attracted to. Other than that, pick-up is, as u/VirgilWoods describes it, "an auxiliary faculty of life.") 4.) Emotional self-hypnosis that leads to clinging to the low hanging fruit of an easy relationship. | /r/seduction | 11/10/13 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Hey r/seduction, Im a recently graduated Psych student Im collecting data to create a model for Stages of development in pick up.I've actually identified as part of the community off and on over the past 5 years. Id have to check out your model, but I feel like Im at that middle point that your talking about where Im not so focused on "game" directly and more focused on generally being the kind of person that I consider to be awesome. Consequently I've had better results in the past 3-4 months of non-game than I've had in any previous point in my life. I'll actually give my data: 1.)23 2.) Seattle 3.) 2-3 (I go out to the… | /r/seduction | 11/10/13 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Hey r/seduction, Im a recently graduated Psych student Im collecting data to create a model for Stages of development in pick up.Hey thank you for that really awesome feedback! Here's what I was thinking with some of your points. -Everyone is a Natural/Self-actualizing: I know Im being pretty optimistic on this point. I don't have evidence to back this one up. I would also reference Adler's (I actually mean Adler here not Erikson :p) over arching concept that an individual will develop in a positive and adaptive manner as long as other things don't fuck it up. In essence positive development is less about doing special th… | /r/seduction | 11/10/13 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Hey r/seduction, Im a recently graduated Psych student Im collecting data to create a model for Stages of development in pick up.Hey thanks for the feedback. Im doing this "study" very informally (Im not trying to get published here. Just checking on a hunch.) so Im mostly just working things out as I go along. I plan on doing descriptive analysis once I get some data mostly because I want to keep things simple for now. In regards to age as a predictor of experience with game; I don't see it as the ultimate defining factor of where one will be with game. Rather, I predict that there will be a set of deep (internally focus… | /r/seduction | 11/10/13 01:22 PM |
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