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| 1 | Reddit White Knight humiliatedIt still doesn't make your argument any better. "Person A hit person B first so person A is at fault" is still a simplistic, myopic way of looking at it and I won't debate it further. I'll chalk it up to agree to disagree since you're bent on ignoring every question I pose to your argument. They're both at fault. And that's that. | /r/MensRights | 16/01/13 04:16 AM |
| 2 | Reddit White Knight humiliatedIn case I didn't make myself clear: the burglar example doesn't work. A burglar entering your house is dangerous. He will rob you, he can kill you. You act in self-defense in order to protect yourself and your family and that's understandable. If you escape, the burglar will steal from you nevertheless, which you don't want. But that wife wasn't a danger to him. In fact, she only pushed him because he was getting closer. He could have opted to walk out and leave her be as the wrong one in the si… | /r/MensRights | 15/01/13 05:29 PM |
| 0 | Reddit White Knight humiliatedSo you're saying his wife was about to rob/kill him. Think about that example. Instead of trying to shoehorn a comparison. Try to think what the difference is. Why couldn't he walk away instead of making the situation (that his wife created) worse for their family? Is that not a choice? | /r/MensRights | 15/01/13 05:01 PM |
| 0 | Reddit White Knight humiliateddoesn't change the fact that every single thing you said, applies to the women INITIATING the violence in the first place. She is 100% responsible for what she received... I'm not denying she was wrong. She had a choice. She choose the wrong one. But I'm just saying he's not a robot. He had a choice, too. And he choose the wrong one as well. Don't you think he had a choice? Would the guy simply calling the police and not doing anything have been a better option? Well maybe... oh wait, he would h… | /r/MensRights | 15/01/13 02:51 PM |
| -1 | Reddit White Knight humiliatedWhat if... He didn't punch her in front of the children and would simply walk away to defuse the situation himself? Would it have been better or worse than punching her? | /r/MensRights | 15/01/13 12:19 PM |
| -1 | Reddit White Knight humiliatedAgain. There's a difference between strangers on the streets and family. It see Let's chalk it up to agree to disagree here. But my argument is that his reaction -- which is what we're debating whether is right or wrong -- is not right. We know she's wrong for doing it. I'm not disputing that. But is his reaction right? She was obviously pushing him as he was getting closer. How about walking away and HIM defusing the situation? Doesn't he have a choice? What good did it come out of the situatio… | /r/MensRights | 15/01/13 11:52 AM |
| 0 | Reddit White Knight humiliatedI'm going to add something from another comment of mine that explains an important part of my position. Because, indeed, I think most people here are looking at this coldly. This was in answer to someone that made the point that had the woman been a man there wouldn't have been a problem from people like me. But that's not true: There also has to be a context to be taken into consideration here. Yeah, the comparison you made is clever. But that's not right. What's the context? Had that been on t… | /r/MensRights | 15/01/13 02:18 AM |
| -4 | Reddit White Knight humiliatedNo, that is not the only important thing. I'm sure you know there is a difference between shoving and punching someone right across the face. Not only is it obviously wrong for the guy to react violently as it is (seriously, how about just taking a break and reset the situation? Is that not "right"?), there has to be some more common sense here other than "She shoved = I get the right to clubber her right across the face!" She pushes him. It hardly hurts him. Could he had pushed her back? I gues… | /r/MensRights | 15/01/13 01:52 AM |
| -4 | Reddit White Knight humiliatedExactly. I don't expect this subreddit to see the point. But there has to be a sense of proportion, goddamit. There is a difference between pushing someone, even if it is in the face, and handing a punch right across the face of that woman. Everyone here is trying to pretend they hurt each other equally. But there's an obvious difference between pushing and punching, especially given their size. Just because she pushed him away doesn't give him the excuse to just clobber his wife and say "you st… | /r/MensRights | 15/01/13 01:38 AM |
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