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At this point you just want to be obtuse. Good luck jn life
/r/ExRedPill06/11/24 03:32 AM
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Because the women who would sleep with them on the first date are labeled "sluts" and deemed not worth their time or attention, yet at the same time, that would be the only women worth their time, since they say they won't stay if she doesn't sleep with them on the first night. It’s really not that hard to understand.
/r/ExRedPill05/11/24 04:49 PM
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f all red pillers demanded that all virgins slept with them on the first date, then you would have a point They say that if a woman doesn't sleep with them on the first date, she's not worth their time and they are out. I don’t understand what virginity or being a virgin has to do with anything in this context. Red pillers tend to purposefully (or subconsciously) pursue the women that they disdain so they they can justify their abuse of them. They don't even interact with the women that they act…
/r/ExRedPill05/11/24 04:42 PM
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You're not making any sense. How would a redpill invest in a relationship with a virgin if his attention investment in a relationship is based on whether she sleeps with him on the first night? You're missing where the contradiction lies. The real contradiction is that they claim women who are sexually "loose" aren't worth a man's time, yet they also expect women to be sexually permissive in order to be considered "worth" their attention or investment because they won't invest in a woman unless …
/r/ExRedPill05/11/24 03:19 PM
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They don't see a woman as a "slut" unless she has a high body count. They label women who are more sexually active with this term, while they praise women who are less sexually active or have fewer sexual experiences. They even argue that women with higher body counts aren't worth your time, so it is in fact a contradiction
/r/ExRedPill05/11/24 03:08 PM
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You're dropping context. Red Pill ideas are focused on sexual market value with respect to heterosexual dating, and targeted towards an audience of men. Within that context calling women "depreciating You really need to work on your comprehension skills. The fact that the comevt is datingnrelations dating does mot negate thebthe desprevotoon is a universal assessmnet of how ..ot saysnwoemn are depressbitingnasetsx jot women sex appeal in dating deprevaifeb.. thats a bery jnversal lbgauge and not…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:00 AM
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Beyond that simple statement, what is gained by describing women as a “depreciating asset?” This derogatory comment does not provide any unique insight. It is simply taking shots at women for doing something that men do too: aging. Misogyny. ......I disagree that it is "taking shots" at women. Rather, its a simple acknowledgment that the vast majority of men are attracted to youth and, consequently, a woman's sexual market value (not her moral worth as an human being, not her rights, not her hum…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 12:19 AM
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think that the ideal is that he gets the final decision making authority, and with that authority comes the responsibility for dealing with the consequences of that decision That’s nonsense. Name one decision a man makes in a traditional relationship where, if things go wrong, he’s the only one responsible and the woman isn’t equally—if not more—affected by the consequences. The reality is, in most cases, both partners face the fallout, and women often bear an even greater burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:45 PM
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feel like people with inflated fragile egos and toxic control freak personalities can't understand normal humans that are OK putting their faith in other people they trust and love. Putting your faith in someone else and giving up your mind and autonomy are two entirely different things. It's ironic that you view a woman who wants control over her own life as the toxic control freak, while the person demanding their every whim and thought be followed is seen as reasonable. Hell, I'm a man and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:43 PM
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understand what you're saying, but not acting annoyed or not expressing it doesn’t change the fact that their intention is still to pursue her sexually—they're just being patient. However, if over time he genuinely came to care and would want to be her friend regardless of his attraction, then I agree it’s no longer true in the present, even if it was in the past , so it all boils down to his intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:29 PM
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well thats what brings the guys on at first people tend to become friends over all sorts of shallow reasons Well then, isn’t it reasonable to conclude that they were just there to hit ??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 06:45 PM
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I don’t think it’s a common feminist belief that a man being attracted to a female friend means he never cared for her and only wants to sleep with her, especially since many couples start out as friends. The only times I’ve seen that view are when the guy has kept his feelings hidden for so long that it feels deceitful, or when it’s revealed that his only reason for becoming her friend was because he found her attractive. You can always refer me to a post saying otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:45 PM
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The point is that feminist arguments often focus on very specific situations with a broader context and naunce, but you're trying to make it seem like feminists believe it's wrong for men to be attracted to women in general. know what the feminists said and i don't agree because i also know the thought process and it doesn't jive with m You mean mind reading_nism?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:37 PM
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so it's not feminism. it's mind-readerism. That's completely irrelevant to the point. I don’t need to read minds to judge their actions—they literally pretended to be my friends while secretly hoping for something more. anyway yes he wanted to fuck her and he saw her as a person he liked. if he aint upfront with it, it's because he sucks at communication skills, he's anxious or he simply thinks that the first thing you should say to a woman isn't that you want to fuck her. You're shifting the go…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:28 PM
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Both sexual and romantic attraction are necessary to want to be in a romantic relationship with someone, and neither is related to how objectively amazing that person’s personality or looks are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:36 PM
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????????? Are you trying to say something???
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:33 PM
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That doesn't answer anything
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:32 PM
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not really thats how feminists even talk about fictional female characters or how they talk about the concept of hitting on a woman, you hit on me therefore all you see in me is my genitals, ass and tits (not very You're clearly and deliberately ignoring the important context and acting as if feminism believes that simply finding a woman attractive is sexist. It's absurd if you truly think that's the case Don’t you think it depends on how she’s being hit on? Do you really believe that commenting…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:28 PM
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Everything you've said so far is just alot of nothingness Can you clarify the types of efforts that heterosexual women see as friendship requests, but lesbians might not? Then, compare those efforts with what men usually consider as friendship I can guarantee that a man who believes a woman needs boyfriend-level effort to be his friend is simply someone who wants to be her boyfriend and can't accept just being a friend If you are making that much effort, than you are doing too much more than wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:17 PM
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The difference is that a lesbian won't drain relationship energy and boyfriend effort from a man because she won't be interested in it "What? Even a non-lesbian might not be interested in whatever you mean by 'boyfriend and relationship energy' simply by not wanting a romantic or sexual relationship. You're not making any sense
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:47 AM
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Or she is not romantically and sexually attracted to him which have nothing to do with whether she likes him ad a person You think you fall in love with anyone with a good personality and character?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:39 AM
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You think people should be in love and relationship with anyone they think have a good personality??that's not how things work
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:36 AM
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I am pretty you are intentionally blurring s huge context here
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:34 AM
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You realize that saying men "can't" implies they have no preferences, standards, or self-control. If a guy has a group of six female friends he interacts with daily, the assumption is that he would be so consumed with thoughts of sleeping with all of them that he couldn't simply enjoy or appreciate the friendship. Is that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:33 AM
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No one seem to have presented a single reason why they can't l Why can’t a man have a connection to a woman other than wanting to open her legs?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:29 AM
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Lesbians are still women who can be very attractive, so I don't understand the logic here if the premise seems to be that men can't control not wanting to sleep with every attractive woman they see.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:27 AM
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it is so totally different. it’s like being attracted to a hentai pillow. it’s parasocial and maladaptive for adults. A hentai pillow lacks the personality and character of a human being; your statement is extremely absurd. The fact that humans are attraction and desire all the time people they don't necessarily physically interact with is enough how oit of touch are you ;you cannot grasp someone’s true physicality and personality without actually interacting with them You don't need to interact…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:13 PM
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a facsimile on a screen is so different from a flesh and blood person it’s not even close. A crush is an attraction, not a commitment to making a life with someone. Why would a human being be considered different just because they are on a screen? It doesn't make much logical sense to think someone is less real based on how you are seeing them. It's no different than being attracted to your colleagues who don't realize you exist, even though they are physically present. bit of parasocial attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:07 AM
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A crush on someone you have never met is not real A crush is a reaction to someone's physical and personality appeal; meeting them is completely irrelevant. You don't have a different physiological reaction to seeing a beautiful man on TV compared to seeing him across the hall. The human brain doesn't differentiate. Are you claiming people aren't actually attracted to the celebrities they rave about for decades? Some people even fall in love with celebrities. Moreover, women don't only develop c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:38 AM
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We were conditioned to be monogamous through social enforcement of monogamy. Now that the social enforcement has waned, people are gradually reverting back to their natural tendencies Monogamous relationships are more dominant now than ever before. I don't understand why some people consider the "red pill" ideology to be a perfect example of a reversal, given that the these groups have always been the ones most obsessed with women remaining virgins and being monogamous Humans are monogamous beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:17 AM
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it’s all about the pool available to them. but yes men in general are less choosy than women Because men tend to be more desperate in general, but look at successful polygamous men—they aren't sleeping with average women. However, that wasn't the initial point. The point is that your premise—that women wouldn't want multiple attractive men—was based on the false assumption that quality requires exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:32 PM
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crushes are fantasies. A crush involves romantic and sexual attraction; it’s not a fantasy. If you believe that women wouldn't want to be intimate with their crushes if given the chance, you're greatly delusional in reality women are not wanting to get pounded by a bunch of different dudes on the regular Not just any men—only the ones they're crushing on. In reality, men don't typically want to sleep with random women they aren't very attracted to unless they're pretty desperate either
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:27 PM
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Higher sex drive has nothing to do with who you find fuckable
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:03 PM
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And they aren't outside of being total creeps
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:02 PM
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Men really don't care how rich you are, it's not the way we are wired. Objectively men would want to have easier access to money ,so I don't think wiring has shit to do with it I've dated two women with net worth's in the tens of millions and I dumped both of them in the end, lots of guys I know with similar stories. You probably weren't getting much use out of it, and you seem to think only men dump rich people. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 12:08 PM
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If monogamy were so unnatural, nothing could condition you into it. However, it's delusional to claim that modern society encourages and conditions monogamous behavior. We are encouraged to explore and experiment sexually at our most impressionable and formative ages, and yet people claim we are conditioned to be monogamous. Ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 12:04 PM
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There is nothing inherently contradictory about desiring quality and not being exclusive to one person. You are equating polygamy with having no standards, but a woman can desire multiple high-quality men, and a man can be polygamous while maintaining very high standards. Polygamy isn't wanting to sleep with any woman
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:57 AM
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If women are crushing on hotter dudes, what does that do to your idea that women sexuality only wants one man?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:52 AM
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What I described was... well, descriptive, not prescriptive. I am telling you what people do, not what I want them to do And I am asking what does it have to do specifically with the topic of submission? Even Simone de Beauvoir, the godmother of second wave feminism, complained that women themselves are so in line with the option to push the responsibility for their own lives onto someone else, that the only way to shake them out of it is to make it illegal Did it actually had to be made illegal…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:44 PM
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And there was this analysis of Study of Mathematically Precocious Youth, that has shown that the higher up both men and women are in their general intelligence, the better they fall into what women call "traditional gender roles Please site it. "The Nordic Paradox" also pointed out that the more opportunities you give women, the more likely they are (after a certain point) to align their lives with "traditional values and lifestyle That don't even mole logical sense .. Why would woman need to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:53 PM
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I love women for who they are, and not what i wish them to be. when your girl ass start sagging, you'll start dreaming about it being tighter It’s just guy’s working triugh their anger that women aren’t the things they thought they where. I thought men love women for who they are ? So why are they angry about women not fulfilling a certain expectation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:25 PM
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I'm a straight dude, being around even vaguely feminine women (that is, the vast majority of women) is one of the fundamental pleasures of life It's Called they make you horny. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:14 PM
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What is my point I don't understand?? And what did I take out of context ? You'd have easily quoted what I FLAT OUT took out of context if it existed..lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:04 PM
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You cite the false dilemma fallacy while parroting it yourself as saying being rational vs irrational is binary and not necessarily a ranked order system The actual fuck do those two things have to do with each other? and if course that is not what I fk said... What I said is how low the ranking should be before we deem that person practical and functionally a normal rational being? What is the ranking spectrum between "men make all the important smart decisions because they rank this high unlik…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:51 PM
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I was speaking to my own family dynamic dude, and I’m cool with you having your own worldview. You completely either lost the plot or trying to because it's embarrassing Are the rationality of the average woman all involved in your own family dynamics? Regardless of what you believe, one party always has the authority in the relationship. 50/50 is a convenient lie. The false dilemma fallacy. Read lt up Again, you are treating women as though they have no autonomy Strawmamimg.... redherirng The c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:36 PM
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If you bothered to keep up with our dialogue, I said it can go both directions If you kept with the dialog..This whole conversation is about why you think MEN ,not WOMEN should have authority and the final word in a relationship You know what an average/mean is, correct? I certainly hope so Yes the majority...good to know women can be more rational than the remaining retards and mentally ill.lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:21 PM
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Then why is he leading her? Because she IS the family ha?? Not interested in semantics
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:13 PM
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You’re the only person treating it as a binary Dude, how more binary can it be than "men are more rational, so women can't make any important decisions "?? Lmao It's getting delusional most marriages I see both together now and ones that have ended place the wife as the primary decision maker in the home. Funnily enough, no one seems to have an issue with this, but every single one is or was fucking miserable I will take your word for it.... you don't sound like someone that can be unbiased at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:12 PM
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I’m sorry you’ve encountered such women that hate/mistrust the men in their life to the degree you have Of course, redherring and baseless assumptions... you are quite rational People are fucking strange and your insults of my wife haven’t gone unnoticed If I did not respect your wife an an intelligent person, I won't criticize the inferior position worth of the mentally undeveloped she took for herself ,would I?? brunt of the responsibility for our lives isn’t some privilege, it’s a massive und…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:54 PM
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You’re linking things together that are not necessarily linked in our argument There is not unnecessary linking... Your just refuse to get the point about the difference between prejudice and describing individuals I can believe that men, on average, are more rational than women Which is pure unfounded sexism while also saying that my having the final decision in my own relationship is based on, get this, a joint decision made by my wife and I. I don't give darn that your wife made a decision to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:41 PM
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I never said it couldn’t be. I was speaking in instances where her opinion is objectively and provably wrong in terms of courses of action Example?? And didn't say you should have this privilege whenever there is am important decision? I’m also 100% responsible for if anything goes wrong and fixing it. Which absolves her of that responsibility. She will definitely eat the consequences.. Women resent men who don’t step up and let them make big decisions and take the fall for them. Simple, she can…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:24 PM
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A race comparison is a pretty irrational way to obfuscate an How is it irrational when the point is to show the difference between describing individuals and making sweeping unfolded sexist or racist claims about a group of people ? If you read that to mean “women are retarded”, then you have comprehension issues that I won’t be able to solve for you. Dude the point over your head and I didn't have the patience to bring it back If there are different levels of rationality in people, then this wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:12 PM
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Willing to listen to someone’s opinion on something gives it inherent value by giving time to it What an honor that you gave her time to talk about things that matter to her own darn life after you decided that you should have the right to control it... very kind and thoughtful If the only way an opinion can be valued is by submitting to it, as you are putting it, then the only way a man can value a women’s opinion is through something akin to slavery. Exept I said no such thing And thanks for c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:56 PM
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Few questions: do you think all people are equally rational? Yes or no. No just like I think there are some mentally retarded people, does that mean it's correct to say women are retarded? How about black people are not as rational as white people? If no, wouldn’t that imply that in some relationships one person may be more rational than the other? By and large? I am pretty that's not what you....what to that someone being specifically a woman ?? Not for nothing. I’ve met tons of irrational men …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:48 PM
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I am not a psychologist to make rigorous impervious accurate definitions for psychological processes and support them with experimental evidence, but I have my lived experience. I asked for a single quality You came to my comment five months after I made it and demanded elaboration; and I complied. I don't see how this example works for you. What example?? I pointed a flaw in your argument that a male being more likely to end up being treated as a leader is not a prove that women are less incomp…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:40 PM
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Earning more and being educated isn't bringing something to the table, if men don't desire those things Objectively why would you desire having to more mouth to feed all by yourself?? If I asked most of these dude that don't care about a woman having an income if they'd want free money all would say he'll yes, so it's not that they don't desire having an extra help with the income, it's that they don't want that to specifically be coming from their woman...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:46 AM
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Men don't choose women based on that. The reason why, is men aren't going to see your money. Her having education and a job has nothing to do with interpersonal skills with an Not one he is financially struggling to keep food everyone's mouth also education and intelligence has a huge bearing on a woman's character and how she carries herself So it sounds more like you don't care about women as thinking beings beings ..It's all how much she can open her legs and be the housemaid
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:37 AM
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They when it's legal to neat then...just middle east
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:24 AM
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Bottom line is that when it comes to dating/mating, the vast majority of people will have to compromise on some traits they don't value as much in order to get other traits they value more. It's all about priorities Someone has never had a real emotional connection with someone...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:12 AM
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My base masculine instincts want me to gather a harem of multiple attractive women, have as much sex as possible, while also keeping them away from other men. That's pretty much the "optimal" strategy for passing on my genes after all. It that why you'd also have every urge to not get a single one of them pregnant?? How is it the optimal strategy if most women aren't going to be want to be reproducing with you?? Women are exactly fund of the idea of being collected in harems...there no Era in hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:07 AM
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My wife is not as rational as me and I don't need consult to solve things and make decision really really sound like someone who will a shit about his wife's opinions when he "hears what she has to say" Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:59 AM
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don’t think women are necessarily equally rational to men on average or in aggregate. There are biological reasons to support this as well Feel free to quote those biological studies of women not just being irrationally but so much so that a man should be there to direct her life But of course I am not surprised you think women are essentially just irrational idiots. I am just glad you have the gals to not dance around it Do you know what's more important than not letting an irrational person ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:46 AM
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I can ask you the same question....read how you need to Strawman every sentence to construct a specific meaning you want and give am illusion of answering me You choose the wrong person for that Mam
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:33 AM
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For me, it’s hearing them out then saying “no” or “that won’t work Because you decided so?? Okay you still expect obedience o whatever you say?? Right Therefore, if a big decision has to be made I’m already well aware that I’m capable and don’t need a consult to ge through it Capable of what??? That you know better than your wife? I’m capable and don’t need a consult to ge through it. That's like the spirit of someone who truly respects their wife an equally rational adult that have every to dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:27 AM
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That's precisely the question I've been asking repeatedly for more than five times, and I haven't mentioned anything about it being a decision that could destroy lives. I simply stated any decision you personally find hard to trust and just know it's bad. The need to reconstruct what was said just to give the appearance of reasonableness in your response lacks integrity. Be honest with yourselve.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:26 AM
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I don't have to imagine a darn thing It's a simple question... would you still defer if you can't trust the decision...yes or not.. .simple !!!!!! I'm not saying it won't happen and haven't said that......... i am not retarded, i know this can happen when you defer to another in decisions No you just could not comprehend it for an hour now ......
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:19 AM
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I TRUST MY HUSBAND OF 21 YEARS, can you not grasp this? what the hell are you imagining? Either you are extremely mentally challenged. or you are the most disingenuous person I have come across..It most likely the latter The question was not " he made a decision that later turned out to be bad" I not once, or even just twice explicitly stated.. " agree with a decision you can't trust and think is genuinely bad"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:14 AM
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Why couldn't you say 1000 years ago that you'd still choose to defer to him even if you strongly believe it's a bad decision?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:07 AM
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Seriously. ???? .....You are an old woman wjp don't know how to answer... what would you do if you face a situation where you know your husband is making a decision and I am trolling? If you Seriously don't see the mental fart with your response which is basically " It Won't happen " the. You need Serious IQ testing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:04 AM
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Exept that is not my fk question My question WOULD you defer IF (it's called a hypothetical question) there is a certain decision you could not trust and get unbound Your answer but I can choose not to submit and I trust my husband has nothing to do with the question....it's the most childish and moronic tactic of avoiding answering a question
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:58 AM
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I've already said I would or could, I am not a prisoner and no one is imposing this on me, please explain your abject hysteria over this? Face palm...the question is NOT can you not submit...we fking no that The question is WOULD you ..... I am sorry...this is plain stupid I CHOOSE this way because I can only control myself, I can't force my h or any other person to defer to me Who the F asked you about forcing him to defer to you? I TRUST MY HUSBAND OF 21 YEARS, can you not grasp this? what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:51 AM
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Why would you need understand what a particular decision would be?? If you had a situation where you did not trust a decision or felt strongly against it , will you defer..?? It's about principle regardless of specifics Why is it necessary to fully comprehend the details of a specific decision? If you found yourself in a situation where you lacked trust in or strongly opposed a decision, would you defer? It's about upholding principles irrespective of the specifics. I fail to see what's mentally…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:32 AM
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what is this life and death earth shattering scenario we are going to be at odds about, can you give me amd example Next time ,read basic English because I don't recall adding a condition that it has to be life shattering The question is clear... at least to a 5 year old Until now you have posit your position of difference on the argument that you trust he always makes the better decision. The question....What if it's a decision you feel very strongly about so much you can't trust or confident o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:04 AM
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I don't HAVE to do anything, there is no law or violence forcing me to defer to my h. I coukd fight him and we could argue Why are you not getting that the fact that you can stop being submissive is completely relevant to the question of what is expected of you when you choose to be submissive ? I could divorce him. no one is forcing this. in 21 years he has never made a HUGE mistake The question is, what if he does?? The the love God is a simple question . The fact you refuse to address or ackn…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:44 AM
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Says the man who made a a sweeping baseless claim about women....Where did I project onto you exactly??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:24 AM
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Submissive wife isn't slavery. They have careers,friends,and autonomy. If their husnands allows it..yeah sure ...Submission pretty much means he can dictates any aspect of her life
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:41 AM
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Income and effort would be top two. Anddd why would those mean you get to dictate her life again Also is this wife of your just laying with open legs in your relationship?? Like does she not do anything? No I don't want her to be more attractive, nor younger (when I was 25 I wanted a 25 yo), nor more nurturing nor more empathetic nor more caring. So you don't have any expectation of this woman??how is she going to want to be submissive?? Equal to me is more than enough Exept ,.she will be better…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:35 AM
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i trust his judgment. there is no fantasy we have been together for 21 yrs and it works perfectly well, i dont even understand what fantasy youre referring to? Pretty insulting to overlook all cristism of the dynamic and boil it down to me not liking the sound of the word. I don't care if you call it a basket of flowers . the idea that women should have no autonomy over their own lifes other than what some dude they married can allow is pretty revolting and plain sexist The average married woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:32 AM
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what is your question? i said DEFERENCE not SUBMISSON What is the functional difference?? what is your question? i said DEFERENCE not SUBMISSON Did you read mine??? Do you have to "defer" to him anytime he doesn't agree with you?? trust his judgment Than why are you disagreeing in the first place?? Take in consideration that of you rarely disagree, than that means it's something you strongly feel about And what happens in the situation where he is clearly making a huge mistake that can't trust? …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:15 AM
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Your level is completely subjectively given that both sexes are supposedly different qualities in the other You want ner more physical attractive, younger, more nurturing, empathetic and caring than you are right?? So how are you on her level let alone above??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:03 AM
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What do you mean by obedience and is it mutual?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:58 AM
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You don't know a single quality but someone came to the confident conclusion that women want men to be better at every single one of the competencies? know that if you take a group of people and task them with any problem to solve, as they try and prod around in search for the most optimal way to accomplish it, one (almost always a man) inevitably becomes a center of dispensing instructions to others, no matter how competent and benevolent the group members are So a leader is someone who knows h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:58 AM
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I am sorry you are so dense you completely obvious that is irreverent to anything I said Can you wife selectively decide what she can obey/submit to once she "willingly" sign up for a life a being a slave and still be submissive?? NO??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:47 AM
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Than you should quite easily be able to answer and disprove what I said without needing to play a game of vague word salads There is a reason you can't answer a direct question because you know your fantasy will collapse
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:44 AM
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I don’t think many want obedience. It’s that they want their decisions to be respected Isn't that just semantics?? What is respecting their decisions look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:22 AM
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The best way to get things done faster and more efficiently is if one person has the final Protecting her from what??? Let's assume she does want a man that is better than her in all aspect, do you think that automatically means she is retarded and can't make basic decisions and care for her family??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:16 AM
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The best way to get things done faster and more efficiently is if one person has the final say. Why does a woman need a captain over her life??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:11 AM
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Collaboration is smoke gun when essentially it's only one person opinions and decisions that goes... You can't have Collaboration but expect one side to the obedient
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:09 AM
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The best way to get things done faster and more efficiently is if one person has the final say. And also the faster way to gain a resentful woman that loath you I don't understand how anyone with a shred of common sense things one person dictating someone's life because they have a penis is smart idea
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:06 AM
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What is leadership and what qualities and competence does it require??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:01 AM
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They are looking for obedience where eventually all their decisions are deferred to,correct? What stop it from being blind? That she can talk and he takes time to hear what she bas to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:00 AM
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He only has power because she allows him to have it. That's the part you guys never understand I don't know a single women who has a preference let alone is demanding a man to be better than her.. If I need to be stronger, smarter, richer, more successful, then I need to lead and she needs to follow. A request make out of the figment of your imagination However, none of those things justify you enslaving your partner and dictating your life anymore than you wanting a 10/10 hot model means they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 11:57 PM
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Then she chooses to live a peaceful life with a good man and she is a doormat all of a sudden Because everytime any of you try to define it,it ends up being word salads of contradiction Then she chooses to live a peaceful life with a good man and she is a doormat all of a sudden I am a woman and that's the complete opposite experience I have had with any woman I know thats isn't some Christian trad wife Then she chooses to live a peaceful life with a good man and she is a doormat all of a sudden…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 11:18 PM
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I bet the wife has to literally shut up and obey. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 10:45 PM
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When I say we're done....we're done. No more arguing...and NO hard feelings Yeah because women are fortune tellers and men are born with decisional making super powers that can go no wrong Then she chooses to live a peaceful life with a good man and she is a doormat all of a sudden Women I know living peaceful loves don't have husband's that expects them to stfu You can live your peaceful life about being treated a mentally undeveloped child however all you want
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 10:43 PM
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When I say we're done....we're done. No more arguing...and NO hard feelings And of course you can decide to shut her up at any point no matter how wrong and reasonable she is, and she should just have no hard feelings and men wonder why women initiate most divorces. Funny how is escalated from her being unreasonable and extreme to " I want her to shut up whenever I want" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 10:38 PM
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In most cases when I see “submissive” used by men it means a woman that won’t argue over everything, doesn’t have to be right all the time, doesn’t need to be “dealt with”, won’t start fights, knows what battles to have, knows that people aren’t perfect, and overall just brings peace to home. Basically it’s a word used to describe women that are not belligerent. And how do that fall into "he makes all the final decisions"?? Do you think women want those things either? Or that men should fo those…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 10:34 PM
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Yes, very easy when you pretend that you didn't move to a different city because he decided to and be obeyed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 09:16 PM
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Exept he has the authority in every degree even the area where she is more component
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 09:03 PM
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Can you make a single decision you husband degrees with a submissive wife???why ya people can't give a straight answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 08:52 PM
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A Dominant man will guide and protect; a domineering man will threaten and intimidate Dominant literally comes from dominating..there is nothing loving and protective about it
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/24 12:06 PM
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Why do.too much mental gymnastics when you can just study using a word that has a clear definition Submission means yielding and conforming to authority..how you feel is irrelevant There’s not an ounce of sexism in God saying women are to submit to their husbands, it’s a simple recognition of the different roles that God has given to men & women If it was in your interest, you'd have agreed. Big difference between knowing that they mean well and being convinced that the decision is right
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/24 12:05 PM
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If your submission rests on getting everything you want and him not doing anything wrong ,than are you really submissive?? Submission inherently means yielding to power and authority without quiestion
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/24 12:01 PM
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I don't know what the hell are you talking about!!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:43 AM
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No you wanting to harass and use women as sex dolls because you are a loose horny animal is not a problem for women. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:54 AM
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Just like it was obvious that women have no sex desires a few decades ago
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:48 AM
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Ah yes the horrors and suffering of being monogamous and marrying good, albeit boring, men Yl You forgot the part where they want to puke when having to fk them I don't think it's a goal so much as an evolutionary consequence. The populations who think women are equal reproduce less than the ones where women have less freedom, eventually the latter societies will replace the form Yeah buddy evolution that supposedly didn't make women horny for enough reproduction also hardwired you to enjoy ensl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:43 AM
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Give them libido increasing pills. Why should men control their natural libido to cater to women's comfort Because you are not owed a sex doll..you are free to use your hands
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:40 AM
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That's the point...I prefer that, but there are very nutritious grass...what do you think we ate when we first came into existence?
/r/MensRights04/05/24 07:10 AM
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I would rather eat earth grass then live among things called men
/r/MensRights15/04/24 11:26 AM
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Women will at least not be living with your sexist and horny ass.
/r/MensRights15/04/24 11:25 AM
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It's not misandry to wish for negativity to be out of your life
/r/MensRights15/04/24 11:22 AM
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Men will die from not having holes to fuck.. am I woman and we already know
/r/MensRights15/04/24 11:21 AM
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There were lots of men being genetically cucked in those tribes. It’s no wonder that we’ve largely moved away from such a set-up Again misses the point and and flies into another tangent that niether addresses the main idea nor explains how is it supporting your main view or contracting mine ... You always manage to single out one idea that is merely meant to support the main idea or point (typically as an example) , and then turn that idea into the subject of focus without it meaningfully relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:32 PM
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But situations where one man impregnated many women have existed in the past What the heck does that have to do with males having no standards and the point at hand.? You have now reverted the question to 'are men polygamous', which has never been the a main question in the entirety of the debate . Morever, you think there having being situations where women were impregnated by different males? There are literally tribes where men raise offersrings in groups because paternity wasn't known. We ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:32 PM
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No, it does matter because choice is limited in a real world scenario. Males live and evolved in the real world conditions not in fantasy land. First you said if they were polygamous men would will practically have no standards, so the attractiveness of their partners won't matter much. Now, you say no, the attractiveness of their partner would matter because life is limited. Taking quotes out of context to obscure the real point and argument that was being made so you can fashion any convenient…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:42 PM
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× Every man will have standards as long as a choice is necessary. But hypothetically if no choice were necessary, then mens standards are pretty low. What do you mean choice is necessary? This is just very disingenuous.. In your previous post you admit that even though if men were polygamous as long as they have the options, they would still select for the best as long as they are available, but now you revert back to implying that their desire for the best is only a matter of having to choose o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:28 PM
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Men usually don’t have particularly high standards, unlike women. It’s more a case of optimization rather than exclusion. If they have no high standards what are they optimizing and for what reason? .. You making no sense. Optimization by defintion means something is being perceived as more desirable than the other options You keep contradicting yourself.. Men have no high standards , but you say men also desire some women substantially much more (the physically more attractive). The later is ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:40 PM
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Well sure, but men aren’t choosy in a way that impedes their desire for polygyny being choosy and being polygamous are not mutually exclusive, so your premise is false. Your argument makes as much sense as saying because men are polygamous they would have to be attracted to their female relatives in case no no-relative sexual candidate is avaliable. If there were only below average women available that a male isn't very attracted to , that won't suddenly make his sexual polygamous realtionship w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:03 PM
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That doesn’t matter on a biological level. It matters on a social level, where it’s either mandated or economically practical for a man to have only one female partner. Dude, i am starting to think you aee being intentionally obtuse . The fact that men also have specific types of women that they are much sexually attracted to, which you indirectly implied as well, and that are more likely be the subject of their pursuit if these men had options means 'men innately have lower standards' isn't bio…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:12 PM
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They are attracted to them on some level. However, men’s standards are really low For whom they would fuck, which is entirely different to whom they strongly attracted to. However, you seem to be admitting that the men aren't necessarily very attracted to these women, so how does it makes sense to say their lower standards is biological? Cherry picking quotes out of context and repeating yourself while entirely ignoring that i have made counter arguments is getting tiring. ×Men do not make that …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:28 AM
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Looks like you need to ne reminded if the context and your initial argument and implication Quote ×The fact that women usually only have casual sex with higher value men rather than just any men would kind of imply that there is an ulterior motive to their casual sex, even if such a motive is subconscious (it isn’t always). In context , the implication was that women mostly have casual sex to get relationships, not because they enjoy casual sex like men However, you now define a high status man …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:21 AM
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Yeah, pretty much. So men too are attracted to status because we could define anything a man finds fuckable in a woman as a measure of status? Morever, you seem to have forgotten your initial premise , which that was that the fact women only sleep with males of high status proves they aren't sleeping around for sexual pleasure but looking for relationships, but now any man a woman's finds desirable is a man of status. This is just circular.. The proof that women have casual sex for relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:53 PM
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But they are. Even poor musicians who actually have talent don’t have a problem finding sexual partners Dude focus... What makes them of high status? Being able to have sex and having status are not the same thing.. The point is you are defining anything women find fuckable as a measure status. It's just a semantic equivocation. But why do women find some men attractive and not others? Why not find everyone with a penis attractive? And why do there tend to be agreements about what is attractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 08:43 PM
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They are different things, though. IT worker is not a high status occupation but it pays well. It does not usually attract women in and of itself I didn't mention anything about pay though ... However, the fact that not all high paying occupation give men high status because there are other factors at play (IT workers are perceived as geeky) does not contradict that men of high statue are often determined by their proffesional occupations, with typically comes with wealth. On the other hand, pop…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:39 PM
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Job” is mostly a “beta” comfort trait. Status can be an alpha trait, though Status is often defined by a man's proffesional position though. For instance, a popular musician is high status and attracts women that way. But yeah, the attraction traits that most women care about for basic casual sex are looks and charm Again, basically, any attractive Trait makes a man high Status.. Water is water. But yeah, the attraction traits that most women care about for basic casual sex are looks and charm. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:11 PM
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Pragmatically, they are desirable enough that a substantial portion of women will readily have sex with them. What those traits are are dependent upon setting. A high value man in an urban setting is going to be different than a high value man in a rural one. However, some of the universally agreed upon general "alpha traits" are looks, charm and status What a long non answer... Basically a high value man is any man a woman desires However, some of the universally agreed upon general "alpha trai…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:15 PM
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I'm saying that that's not what I mean when I use the term "high value man". It's a man that women want to have sex with, for whatever reason What makes them high value? I do think that some women will have casual sex with guys who they are trying to hook into relationships, though, who might have high status and not just looks So you have no proof that women only have casual sex for relationships? Great . But studies show that, the more attractive a woman is, the less likely she is to have a hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:39 PM
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Yes, that’s what higher value usually means in the context of this sub: Than thats false.. Women aren't having causal sex only with male CEOs and kings and president I don't know a single one of my girlfriend that considered a man's income or job rank when deciding to have casual sex.. It's was mostly primary about physical looks. There is a reason the belief that women fuck chads in their fucking around days and settle for the good provider is famous..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:59 PM
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Because it speaks about the tremendous value that the average woman brings Which even though is very average amd is not that extraordinary great, your wive can't still can't provide it.. Oh but it says nothing about horribly undesirable she is. Lol..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:33 PM
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Because it speaks about the tremendous value that the average woman brings. Not being able to compete when your competition is great does not speak badly about the one competing against such odds. Not being able to compete with better values does not speak of your tremendous lower value. 😂Lol Dude am average is not a great comperition .. We are not taking about ceo supermodels.. It's a plethora of different types of women with and different flaws and attractive qualities... She can only complete…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:14 PM
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Correct. Again, being unable to compete is not the same as being horrible Dude she is able to compete with even average women, how does that not speak of her tremendous inferior qualities? Again, being unable to compete is not the same as being horrible MF**** the reason she can't compete is because of how umdesirable of a prospect she is... Why the fuck are you acting like they are unrelated? No contradiction there. The same decisions and actions she makes are not appreciated by other men. So a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:34 AM
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It’s as much variety as many older man can have considering society not accepting infidelity Yeah because male with a mistress screams a man that honors social inacceptance of infidelity. ×also the need to keep things secret from one’s primary partner Which is something he is already doing by having a mistress... Younger, unattached men with options show more of the prototypical behavior when they seek out casual sex. But we are not taking about casual sex, but whether one mistress for 30 years …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:13 AM
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Agree with you about what exactly dude? .. That the Only reason they would leave a relationship with a woman is to go have random sex or that men are generally leaving woman they love and are happy with to go fuck random women ? And why hell do you think a group of men with a herd mentality on social media is a reflection of the behaviors of all men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:08 AM
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The fact that women usually only have casual sex with higher value men What is a higher value man? Are you saying women only have sex with CEOs and kings? No women only have casual sex with men they are very physical attracted. That is called being normal and not just desperate for sex with whoever.. That is not an obvious ulterior for wanting commitment Do you think men with options are sleeping around with uglies? Is that an ulterior motive for love and commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:01 AM
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There is no limitation to men only loving one person Completely not the point.. The point is most harems consisted of women that men gathered to their sexual desires not because of deep connection and caring for these women. Moreover, if you have a harem of 20 women, you are most probability not in love with most of them because romantic love is a very consuming emotion. We would have common examples lf men being in love with larger numbers of women if that was even psychological and emotionally…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 10:57 AM
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Your welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:03 AM
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I know what you are saying, but unfortunately love is a subjective experience so unfortunately i can't pull a an objective scientific paper to disprove these man's claims. All i have is behavioral evidence However, in my opinion, lots of these men who claim to be able to love lots of women often have a very superficial understanding of love. They think just because they could easily sleep with multiple women at once and provide and take care of them, that's love.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:52 PM
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No... that is called being normal. Most men on earth don't have that much options Not having much options and being with someone because they are the only option are two different things Correct. That does not mean only desperate men would love her Jesis fucking christ.. If only men that can't get better women would look at her that's desperation because most people would not want to be with someone that 'inferior'. Men with no money are not desperate, they are normal. Most me are not with no mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 06:38 AM
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Again. Many people can/want deal with her. But those people can't provide her with the lifestyle she wants. That one is the filter that matters. I am just tired with this shit.. They will because they have no other options . That's your implication. ×The reason I insist is because the words you use are wrong. She is not horrible She is so unlovable that only desperate men or men with no good options would want her.. She sounds lovely ×he is not horrible. She is just worse than the alternatives a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 06:31 AM
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Oh come on... just read the entire sentence without ignoring anything I am and it's basically semantics.. It's not that she is too ugly and unbearable. It's that she can't compete! As if her lack of competitive ability isn't bacause lf her very inferior overall traits She can be loved by other men without involving desperation nor self loathing. But those men can't provide for her. Dudeeeeee. When you say the only men who would want her are the ones who don't have that much options. That's calle…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 05:50 AM
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×hes ugly and horrible unbearable personality. How is that making lt better? ×Not unbearable. Hard to deal with for people that don't have an unusual amount of patience. Of only one person in the universe can deal with it, how is that not the defintion of unbearable? Not horrible. Unable to compete Jesus. Stop dancing around with these semantics.. She can't compete because she is that horrible. Describing a true fact is never insulting nor disrespectful It's insulting to spread around and make s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 05:42 AM
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I am not the only one in the world that could love her. Maybe there is another rich desperate and pathetic guy that would be able to love her and be willing to provide her with the lifestyle she wants. She could only be loved out of desperation and self-loathing... What is wrong with your brains that you can't see how dehuminizing and disrespectful that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 05:22 AM
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Because they have better options. Why she is not a good option? Ugly? If you are loved by someone that is unable to take care of you, then you will not be cared for financially Jesus christ... Not the only reason as I explained. Competition and other qualities are also factors. Okay part of the reasons. And other reason apparently include her unbearable personality ×I agree. Even then, they are surrounded by better options Oh she is that horrible.. Okay Honestly i don't know what you are dancing…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 04:55 AM
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Sure. Sometimes men can love one other woman. Sometimes men can use one other woman for sex. Sometimes men can love multiple women. Sometimes men can use multiple women for sex. Completely ignores, sometimes men will love only One woman. Sometimes will forget on love for the love of another. You intentionally only chose situtions where there are multiple women Is the male polygamous impulse makes him unable to love multiple women and forget one when fall in love with another as well ? How is rom…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 04:42 AM
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Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 04:16 AM
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Because you are Dude. Can you read.. Why did you make it a gender thing amd bring up a bullshit about all women? ×Therefore perpetuating that stereotype You mean the stereotype you strongly believe in because it was first thing that came to your mind? How? I would have said the same shit if you were a man. Dude. Read.. You ascribed my behavior to some stereotypical assumptions mostly made up by sexist men about women.. You could have just said i am an asshole, my gender has nothing to do with it…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 04:14 AM
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think you are childish because of the remarks you made Not the point... Why did you immediately start relating it to the stereotypical childishness and irrationality of women and the reason they can't be taken seriously? It implies this is a common thing among women , but not men. You can think i am immature all you want, but treat me as an individual, not a reflection of other women. ×My opinion of you has nothing to do with your gender. You would still be an immature asshole if you were a man …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 04:01 AM
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What I am saying is that she can't attract a man that would give her the lifestyle she wants 🤦‍♂️.. Why? ×You are forgetting that a man that can pay for the lifestyle she wants has options and he will pick the best option available. Lol... The point was you denied that you implied she couldn't be truly loved , but only she could not be cared for financially . If she could be loved. She would be cared for. I am saying that the men that can provide her with the lifestyle she wants are men that are…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 03:58 AM
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called you an immature asshole after you acted like one And you still expected to keep respecting after you did.. I don't give a shit what reasons made you say it first spoke with alot of women on this thread and if they treated me with respect I did the same. Even though we disagreed. But apparently I'm a sexist monster. When your first thoughts of a woman not agreeing with you is she definitely being the irrational chidish person women are known for, then yes, are sexist but you have rationali…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 03:35 AM
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I know how men think Lol... That's isn't proof that all mistress situations are men looking for variety, or that they are in love with their wives still.. We have been over this for hours now.. A man sticking to one mistress he is in love with isn't exactly 'variety' Now what's you proof for women? You know how they think too? ×The reason they eschew it is because they don’t want to hurt their partner and because society tells them that it’s wrong. Yeah only men are expected to be faithful...bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 03:30 AM
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They try not to. Usually the women catch them cheating Man answer the damn point.. You implied the only reason men are leaving relatioships is because they can't get harems.. That means men don't leave relationships because they are unhappyn and lost interest , but they are very happy but need to go fuck other women.. What universe do you live? The vast majority of the time men divorce or breakups ks because of unhappiness with the relationship, not because of new woman. No. A woman can leave a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 03:27 AM
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Irrelevent..did you observe their motivations or you assumed? And most people sleep around for sex and fun .. The vast majority of women are not having casual sex for love or a serious relationship Women usually just have to settle down quicker because their clock ticks faster..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 03:22 AM
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Completely ignores addressing the main point which is that most of the time, the desire for harems is very sex focused and that most of the time love is focused on one person or very limiting t0 polygamous tendencies ..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 03:21 AM
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Just a couple of the instances.... It's disrespectful, I treat you with respect I expect the same in return. It's called being a adult capable of having a respectful discourse I didn't disrespect you.. You on the other hand called me immature and asshole... ×Honestly you just give a bad wrap for women. Perfectly fitting in the stereotype of a childish women who can't control her emotions. Women like you are why other women have a problem being taken seriously. The sexism starts showing.. A woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 03:19 AM
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×You are correct I just don't see why she would be self loathing. She married a man that told her she is too ugly to be truly loved.? Why are we going in circles? < I don't see how that is relevant. She can't get that without me. She got me. Everything is as it should be. Ahhhh because the topic is literally about how she couldn't realistically get that from anyone else? The counties of women being house wives, and it's unrealistic that they are all beauties. Ok. I think I see it now. Fair. By t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 03:04 AM
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First read history.. Most women in harems were concubines and sex slaves.. These aren't women the man dated and got with then because he fell in love with. As for today... Literally reality.. How many men spinning plates and fucking around care about having love and connections with these women? I am not saying no man wants to have deep loving relationships. However, you'd see that it's always with very few women.. Two or three most. What I am saying is man who want to be with as many women as p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 02:46 AM
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I don't believe i made any condescending remarks toward you, but you kept taking me in circles basically just to repeat what i have been saying all along.. . But you really are extremely arrogant and immature in the way you speak to people who have different beliefs than you I can say the same about you...when all you could do is sugar coat your beliefs, then they aren't that convincing as you'd like to believe It's likely why most people don't take you seriously and your conversations don't lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 11:27 PM
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It says that she is smart enough to recognize her best option and grab it Not mutually exclusive with self loathing.. Yes. She got that. She won while many won't There are countries of women doing just that and they aren't all the most beautiful specimens So loving and paying are the same thing to you You are just acting obtuse.. He loves her but won't want to be with her and make ber happy? . Lol.. Once he loves her, she becomes the most important and desirable thing to him. There is a reason, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 11:20 PM
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Really? That's all you've got to say? .. Completely misses the main point of the contension right? Basically, you've just agreed i was right all along that this is all it is...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:31 PM
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I'm not gonna say it again. I've said it 3 times already.... I agree that the relationship dynamic you described is wrong. Jesus fucking christ.. Nothing you have said so far negate that what you and i are describing are essentially the different The relationship dynamic I'm speaking of is one where one person choses who to follow based on their respect, trust and admiration they have for that partner For the love of God they are still followers.. It does not change shit out of what it is done. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:25 PM
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As she should be because she should be able to make informed decisions And she chose to spend her life with a disrespectful ass . Says lots about her I am not that loaded. The point is that she wants to stay at home without working. She does not want to be a mother either so kids are out of the question. She wants someone else to face the world for her so she can live a life of abundance without worries. you mean like millions of women? I see her as too ugly for a man to be willing to pay for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:20 PM
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Which I'm also disagreeing is wrong. That type of relationship is wrong. The type of relatioship where one person decides everything and one obey? Because it sounds we are talking about the same darn thing.. You are suger coating it. Why did you leave out the part where I said they have the agency to leave? I don't think I edited that in. Because a relationship is when you are TOGETHER.. Yes they can leave, does not make the relationship any less toxic and a door to misery. However, you are forg…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:11 PM
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Well duh. Of cours that is not something I tell her currently. I literally only told her once. Before we started dating. The day I approached her with an agreement that would get us both what we want. I was open about everything because she should be able to make a fully informed decision. From then on there was no need and no reason to say it again. All that matters is that you said, not that you have it a replaying tape... She is still aware that how you see her I see her as a lovely person th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:03 PM
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It doesn't because in my example one has agency over who they choses to follow. They can also leave if they so choose. They also have a voice that is heard and prioritized in the decisions I don't care if they choose. All that says is that they chose to have no agnecy as long as they are in the realtionship. It's the nature of dynamic itself i am critisizing But in yours they have no agency over anything... That is the difference They have no agency in the relationship. You are assuming I'm spea…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:55 PM
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I'm sorry I misunderstood. I thought you were speaking as if those are all relationships. I think we agree. All realtionships where one person, typically the woman, is expected to be the follower in all things, and the other, typically the male, has full authority over all decision making aspects of the relationship... But I think most people who disagree with me see it as this. That would have worked of ot was not complete obedience, but only on certain situations .. What kind of woman has zero…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:51 PM
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The relationship dynamic I'm speaking of is one where one person choses who to follow based on their respect, trust and admiration they have for that partner All i am hearing is a relationship where only one person respects, trust and admire the other ... I don't care out of what the following is happening, the concept remains thr same..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:43 PM
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She can decide whatever thr heck she wnat... The point is we doubt you acyaully told her what you have been expressing her However, assuming you did, that makes her someone with absolutely no self respec , value and confidence because even if what you say about her lack of good options where true, no one wants to hear that kind of disrespectful and depreciating shit from the person who is suppose to love you and admire more than anyone else. You are literally saying in your eyes you see her as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:40 PM
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The relationship you are describing is the worst possible case scenario relationship It's a situation. It's literally of that kind of relationship..all final decisions are the man, so practically the woman has no agency and voice of her own no matter how loving a caring the husband is. Period. Where do you live? In some third-world shit hole? No 1st world country is that even remotely close to reality. Women have the means to divorce and have their own careers. Jesus.. We are taking about the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:31 PM
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You told he she is too ugly to be wanted and desired by a good man who would truly love her... Yeah right
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:22 PM
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They follow because they trust the competency of their partner more than their own. That would have worked of ot was not complete obedience, but only on cetain situations .. What kind of woman has zero trust in ber decisions and opinions and wants zero control over all aspects of her life? The reality is in these relatioships, the woman is expected to obey even if they are not comfortable in the decision being made by the man, or if she jas the more experience and superior decision. .. That the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:12 PM
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She has options. I am the best one by far. She could attract other men. But no men that could provide her with the lifestyle she wants would be interested in her Just going in circles.. She is not good enough to have the option of a quality man. Tell her that, and i hope she has some dignity and leaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:07 PM
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Different men treat women differently. I’m sure that there are men out there who can love multiple women Jesus.. Love is not the point. The reality is harems were collection of sex toys. The vast majority of the time men want a group of women for pleasure, not to have a real connection. Just think of men that did manage to make a life of fucking multiple women. How many do you see care about having any connection to these females? I am not saying no mam has cared about more than one woman at a t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:01 PM
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What observation? Both men and women cheat and both sleep around. . And obsevation does not account for social factors and pressure
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:55 PM
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< Men leave relationships because society and economics only allows them to have one Yes every man would stay with a woman he isn't happy with, does not love and unattracted to. Lol Okay, society does not allow them multiple women, but why would that make them leave women they love and are happy with again? They’ll leave a woman if she is dead bedrooming him or if her personality becomes really annoying to him, though. And, usually, if she cheats on him and he finds out about Again literally the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:53 PM
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How do you know why he took her in the first place? And men who go from mistress to mistress are seeking sexual variety, of course. But we aren't talking about men that go from one mistress to another. Your initial argument was every relationship of a man with a mistress is a proof of men wanting harems and variety, so that include the one mistress for decades. Another, where is your proof that most men with mistress have completely happy and healthy relatioships with their wives? As long as the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:50 PM
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Can you explain how you got that i said that you said that? The argument was that since women want men that make more money than are, that proves women want to be less than a man... I am saying no, it proofs women want a lazy and easy life..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:43 PM
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Can you address the point for once in your life? At what point was the was the contesion about whether men can love multiple women? The point if the man has only one mistress for years besides his wife, that means his love is the reason he is with her, not seeking sexual variety, else won't he just have multiple mistresses, but would keep getting more and exchanging more.. The whole point of variety is that you want to keep getting something differnent and new . However, you can't assume that he…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:40 PM
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Dude.. We are talking about reasons men would leave a relatioship, which is the same as a woman's, which you are using as prove of i don't know what branching... Cheating is irrelevent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:31 PM
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What evidence? All the things you have to mention as evidence i have shown to shown very weak and very speculative..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:27 PM
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What a fucking strawman.. He isn't ln love woth most, does not mean he only cared about one.. However, yes generally women in harems were not women the man had any decent loving relationship with .. Most were concubines gathered for sexual entertainment and pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:26 PM
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Women branch swing to have sec with men who seem “better” to them, or at least more compatible. And these women are likely doing so because the men whom they are currently with no longer attract them Exactly the same reason men leave relations.. No longer satisfied or met someone better. Men can just cheat for the variety and sexual thrill of it. And they can still be attracted to their present partner yet cheat anyways. So can women and they do all the damn time. Do you think only men are attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:21 PM
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Jesus fucking chrisg.. We are talking about men who have only one mistress beside the wife amd why it can niether be a harem nor a strong indication of men needing variety and spreading their seed.. Why are you cherry picking argument and giving answers completely unrelated to the main point if the argument The point is the mistress is usually someone he has a very strong emotional attachment to amd so it's not someone he seeked just for sex variety, but because he loves her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:16 PM
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Wives do have agency. I'm sure some don't. But a large majority of wives do. In some particular areas they lose agency. Men also lose agency in ways women do not We are taking about a wive that is expected be subservient to her husband and do whatever he wants out of some bullshit of following leadership out of respect. It's essentially just a suger coated slavery because she practically has no opinion of her own nor agnecy and is treated as an inferior that needs guidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:14 PM
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That is not the case. There are men that would want her. But none of those men come close to me in any metric you want to use to compare and no men that would want her would be willing/able to do even half of what I am willing and able to do for her You called your wive ugly and therefore, no man would be willing to do for her what you do. In other words, she has no options. Is she aware if this part of your motovation for considering her?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:09 PM
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What the fuck are you taking about? I am saying neither men nor women would switch the best partner for random sex, but your implied this is more specific to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:08 PM
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You are missing the point, which is none if the things you mentioned are behaviors that differ between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:05 PM
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Show me a harem where a male was in love with all the women... Harems were collection of woman for sex pleasure. Moroever, love or not, it's still using women as commodity
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:03 PM
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She is fully aware She is aware you married her because she is undesirable and no male would want her?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:02 PM
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The reason is just because a species share common genetics, it does not mean they behave the same.. What part of rat mating systems generally looks like humans'? Morever, the reason we have not confirmed any Coolidge affect in human males, is because they do not consistantly exhib it.. If men immediately get horny after sex with the introduction of new females, we should have easily shown it as has been done with rats right. When you need to refer to another animal to prove how a human she behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:59 PM
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You implied that your wive is fully aware of some of the reasons you stated her for considering her a partner.. Kf she dles , she would most likely be divorving your ass, or just resenting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:54 PM
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I think if you walk out into the streets and asked 100 women, if they are ok with their husband making less or equal to them That proves women want to be subordinates. Lol... No that prove women want to have it easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:50 PM
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It's not the same thing at all. Are all people who follow servants Yes, if they have no agency and should do whatever you want and please. Why won't you want to serve your wive out of respect tben?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:47 PM
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What is potential value?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:42 PM
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You told her you picked her because she is ugly and no man would want?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:40 PM
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Because a woman is neither obliged to accept to be collected as objects nor stay with a man she does not desire. Huge difference between advocating that women just accept to be part of a harem that does not benefit them in anyway only to be objects of pleasure, and advocating that women should leave a relationship whenever they want.. In both cases, it's the man whining for something unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:29 PM
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Women leave relationships because they either want to branch swing or because the man drops in value from what he once was Yeah and men leave because the wive was perfect.lol.. How many men do you think leave their healthy and very happy relatioships just to go fuck random women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:18 PM
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How many men switch the best woman they can get into a relationship just for variety?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:16 PM
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I don't evwn understand how your answer relates ? The point is you are treating a normal cheating behaviour which both men and women commit as a structure of having a harem...Whether a man and woman have different motivations is completely irrelevent.. What part of the concept of a harem says that one should be happy with all mates in the harem? A harem is just a male that has a large collection of wives and concubines whom are all faithful and committed to only him. However, if the motivation o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:46 PM
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Then at this you are being intentionally obtuse and stubborn.. The Coolidge affect is when a male regain sexual arousal and horniness faster while he is in refactory period when he is introduced to a new mate . That is if it usually takes him 24 hours to be interested again after having had sex, he is immediately aroused once introduecd a new femlae. That is after he had recently had sex and ejaculated and temperalily lost sexual desire for old mate or for sex in general .. At what stage of a th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:20 PM
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Not the same in principle. Its polygyny because he is not monogamous, assuming he is sleeping with his wive, but he does not have a harem ... A harem implies a plathora of wives or mistresses. However, in this case, It's just a man cheating on his wive. By your logic, cheating women also have harems, so the arrangement you are proposing is not even specific to males. It's just that society overlooks the cheating of men of very high statues, but punish female's heavily, so we tend to attribute th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 01:22 AM
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I had to reply from another account The Coolidge Effect involves introducing a novel female and the man regaining sexual interest Novel literally means a new mate This happens in a threesome because, after having sex with one woman, there is a “new” woman for him to have sex with. You neither understand what a threesome is nor what the Coolidge means. 🤦‍♀️ You forgot the part where the new mate should reincite his sexual interest after having lost it for the older mate.. During a threesome, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 01:16 AM
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Not according to what I’ve read about it. The Coolidge Effect involves introducing a novel female and the man regaining sexual interest To the are literally repeating what said. This happens in a threesome because, after having sex with one woman, there is a “new” woman for him to have sex with. You neither understand what a threesome nor what the Coolidge means.... 🤦‍♀️ You forgot the part where the new mate should reincite his sexual interest after having lost it for the older mate.. During a …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 01:15 AM
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