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It's fine. Actually I wouldn't take up or downvotes personally, until they get beyond like -1 or -2. I frequent /r/fountainpens as well, and even uncontroversial subs like that have downvote bots active that downvote people to 0 or -1 for seemingly no reason. No surprise that it happens on more... shall we say, controversial subs too.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 07:43 AM
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Yep agreed
/r/MensRights08/01/23 07:22 AM
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For whatever it's worth, these same kind of comments directed towards men is why I (and many others here) left feminism behind. So I do think we need to curb it when we see it within our own movement.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 07:09 AM
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Sorry to hear you have been on the receiving end of that - I personally do not see if frequently on this sub, and downvote it when I do.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 07:06 AM
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Totally disagree with you, but whatever
/r/MensRights08/01/23 05:19 AM
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This is no true scotsman fallacy.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 04:52 AM
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I think the trouble a lot of women who come into this sub have is a lot of their posts come across as lecturing us about how we need to be discussing things differently, or see things from their view. I hope you could understand how posts of that nature could be interpreted and received unfavorably, in what a lot of people view as a safe space to discuss mens issues. I personally haven't seen posts that don't take this kind of tone be downvoted. YMMV, of course.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 04:12 AM
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I'm not sure I agree with OP, but it could be a two step logic jump: 61% of american women identify as feminist. Feminist groups pass blatantly anti-male legislation like the duluth mode.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 03:59 AM
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He called out posts from subs like /r/twoxchromosomes specifically. That's a feminist/female oriented sub. Reading comprehension, mate.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 03:56 AM
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It's propaganda.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 03:47 AM
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That's a reasonable take. This website is still anti porn propaganda. Literally called "fight the new drug".
/r/MensRights07/01/23 04:12 PM
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Sorry just realized you aren't OP so I won't be a shitter. Thats what happens when you tag someone's username, like this /u/denisc9918
/r/MensRights07/01/23 10:20 AM
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This is kind of hilarious because you listened to /u/denisc9918 and posted something hateful about women with this comment, and proceeded to get dumped on (-11 at the time of this comment). But I think you're too fucking self absorbed to even realize what you just did.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 10:01 AM
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Have you tried reporting him to admins for harassment? I've had way less than this taken action against before. They will straight suspend accounts for far less.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 09:49 AM
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Meh, website is anti porn propaganda. I don't buy it. It can be just fine.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 08:14 AM
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I'm not sure you really understand how blocking works. If you block someone, they cannot reply to your posts. So... they wouldn't be able to "continue their attacks"
/r/MensRights07/01/23 03:56 AM
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..? What kind of braindead dogshit ass take is this? Just so we're clear, people aren't born or conceived yet literally don't exist yet. There is no proverbial ladder to kick down. For me at least, since I support points 2 and 3, antinatalism is a way to increase the living standards of the people who already do exist. If anything, it's extending a latter to those who already exist but society has marginalized.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 02:50 AM
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The idea isn't that existing is immoral. It's that creating new life is - usually antinatalists have at least one of three reasons suffering is am inherent part of life and its immoral to make the choice for someone else to force them to experience it, A belief that the world would be generally better off with fewer people - that infinite growth required by capitalism is unsustainable, often for environmental reasons There are already children who exist in the world who need help. The moral thin…
/r/MensRights07/01/23 01:40 AM
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I'm personally antinatalist and think it's immoral to have kids, at least until we bring up conditions in the third world and there are no kids in need of adoption. Wouldn't make it illegal. Just personally think having children is immoral.
/r/MensRights06/01/23 05:59 PM
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I literally have a degree in history. You are proof that not everyone who writes a book is smart.
/r/MensRights06/01/23 02:11 AM
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For whatever it's worth, I'm pretty sure numbers from a paternity testing organization would skew (very) high, as people who submit a paternity test are far more likely to already be in a situation where the fatherhood is in question
/r/MensRights05/01/23 04:18 PM
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All this rant showed me is you don't know the difference between communism and socialism.
/r/MensRights05/01/23 03:46 PM
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In their "it's for the children" argument, feminists always conveniently forget that men are people too
/r/MensRights05/01/23 03:41 PM
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You think he is a communist...? Do you know he actively makes fun of communists?
/r/MensRights05/01/23 02:38 PM
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Vaush takes a lot of shit from both the left and the right for his positions. From the right because he's a leftist. From the left, because he won't toe the radical agenda and will speak out, abrasively, if he disagrees. But he's one of the few leftists that will challenge their take on mens issues (even if it results in him taking a lot of heat) and I respect him for that. I disagree with his prescription on what causes mens issues (the patriarchy) and how to fix them (feminism), but he stands …
/r/MensRights05/01/23 11:45 AM
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What I think about elliot roger is fuck you and anyone else who sympathizes with him He is not and should never be a face for mens rights
/r/MensRights05/01/23 10:45 AM
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I mean, I do occasionally downvote posts like that. In this case I didn't, but mostly out of laziness. I feel like if you're going to post you should put the bare minimum effort in to make it not a crap experience for the people trying to read your thread.
/r/MensRights05/01/23 04:55 AM
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Like a guy makes a thread about how his girlfriend has been sexually assaulting him for years and feels trapped because no one believes him and he can't escape the relationship. And its got 0 votes after being up for 3 hours? This sub is not that cruel. But it does have cruel feminist infiltrators. If this is the post I'm thinking of, it's probably more to do with the fact that the guy posted a giant wall of text with barely any punctuation and no paragraphs. I opened it, took one look, and clos…
/r/MensRights05/01/23 04:30 AM
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How the FUCK does #2 "stink of moving the goalposts"? Whether or not mens and womens hormonal influence on behavior should be equally recognized and understood is literally the whole point of this entire post Also, how are you defining direct vs indirect? I don't see a distinction between these other than temporal duration and variability, so I can't see how you are calling one "direct" and the other "indirect" I'm not claiming men and women are identical here. But the way in which men and women…
/r/MensRights03/01/23 10:41 AM
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I'm not arguing that men have hormonal fluctuations. But either hormones influence behavior or they don't We have established they do, for both men and women. And either we are sympathetic to how hormones make someone behave, or we aren't I'd say we are In which case there is no fundamental difference in how we should be treated. The fact that I'm disagreeing with you over whether fluctuations in hormones matter isn't down to reading comprehension. It's because your opinion is a steaming pile of…
/r/MensRights03/01/23 10:16 AM
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Because making comparisons between concepts that aren't comparable is unhelpful, even detrimental. It absolutely is comparable though. Either hormones influence your behaviors, or they don't. If they influence your behaviors, it should be treated the same - whether it influences your behaviors some of the time or all of the time isn't a meaningful distinction. Imagine lacking basic reading comprehension as a grown ass adult. Tragic... Imagine being dim-witted enough to think all criticism of you…
/r/MensRights03/01/23 09:39 AM
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Why does that matter in how we treat the fact that hormone influences behaviors? Also, imagine using the word "duh" as a grown ass adult
/r/MensRights03/01/23 09:16 AM
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A man's libido is not related to hormones the way a woman's emotions can be. A precursory search on google scholar will show this is not the case. Testosterone has a LOT to do with sex drive. Or, if you experienced living as a man with low (or high) testosterone you would know that too. But no, you prefer to comment with no research AND with no experience.
/r/MensRights03/01/23 09:01 AM
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Or as a justification for emotional abuse Also emotional abuse caused by pregnancy hormones
/r/MensRights03/01/23 08:57 AM
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Why do i get the sense that when the author writes "have come to imperil the mainstream acceptability of the men’s rights movement" he means that it makes mens rights more acceptable, rather than less acceptable? This is immediate framing of mens rights as an inherently bad thing, and should immediately result in the dismissal of the article as biased.
/r/MensRights03/01/23 08:21 AM
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Sir, scroll the fuck up. I said exactly this 2 comments ago. Did your brain take that long to process the comment, or did you forget I said that, remember, and think it was something you came up with yourself?
/r/MensRights03/01/23 05:49 AM
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Globalism has demonstrably benefitted the poor Americans you whine about way more than the third world. Just about any of them would give anything to switch places.
/r/MensRights03/01/23 05:40 AM
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You think it's bad because it hurt lower class Americans and helped the third world. I'm pointing out if anything its the exact opposite. Also I support globalization because I and everyone I know benefits from it. Selfish as that is.
/r/MensRights03/01/23 05:35 AM
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To be clear I think your rant against globalism is delusional...
/r/MensRights03/01/23 05:26 AM
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The irony in your rant against globalism is the poorest Americans have it far better than those in third world countries who they have supposedly "raised the conditions of". The entire modern US consumer culture is built off of exploiting these people in the third world. Honestly... I'm gonna go out on a limb and say they would be better off without it, and the Americans would be worse off.
/r/MensRights03/01/23 05:03 AM
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Ok, and when people comment things like this it makes it seem like concern for the child is a valid reason to do this. Which is why I replied to you explaining why and how it is not. There is no excuse that makes this valid.
/r/MensRights03/01/23 01:15 AM
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No one said that. The fact of the matter is if the child's interests are the only thing that matters, the state could step up and pay. But the state doesn't. Why? Because they don't want to, and it's easy and convenient to pin it on an unrelated man. Why are you shocked we are having a discussion on this in a men's rights sub?
/r/MensRights03/01/23 12:45 AM
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Please explain. How the rights of the child should completely dominate and erase the rights of the completely unrelated man You seem to be forgetting, as do so many feminists, that men are people too
/r/MensRights03/01/23 12:41 AM
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Conservatives are just a minority opinion among the younger (and generally tech literate) demographic that uses reddit, and irs fucking funny that it triggers you so hard
/r/MensRights02/01/23 06:49 AM
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No, frankly I don't really give a shit. Because no one is restricting conservatives from posting on /r/politics Do you want people to self censor their political opinions or some shit? I don't understand what you want people to do
/r/MensRights02/01/23 06:48 AM
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/r/politics is just more representative of the average person on reddit. It's not some self selecting political bias group. It's just political bias of the average reddit user. The fact that it triggers you people is so fucking funny, honestly.
/r/MensRights02/01/23 06:11 AM
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/r/conservative bans wayyyyy more people than /r/politics, I think
/r/MensRights02/01/23 04:00 AM
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Also, men suffer from breast cancer as well… This is really incredibly disingenuous and bad faith considering men make up less than 1% of breast cancer patients. If you want to go down that route, then fine, some miniscule amount of (trans) women will suffer from prostate cancer too. And do you not think that some of that riskier behavior (for example, working riskier jobs) is due to societal stress to provide at home? Wow yes homophobia. Sure that accounts for the like 3x disparity in funding. …
/r/MensRights01/01/23 11:47 AM
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Citation needed Maybe it's the high stress, high risk environments society has us working in too. Maybe it's the stress and need to work extra hours due to child support laws. Maybe its male-specific diseases like prostate cancer receiving comparatively less funding.
/r/MensRights01/01/23 11:16 AM
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If society valued women’s health more than men’s then we wouldn’t be constantly under-treated/ misdiagnosed for pain/ chronic illnesses/ medical emergencies because we are gaslit about our symptoms compared to men. Yeah, the society that "doesn't value womens health" spends far more for example on breast cancer than prostate cancer. Women live on average like 5 years longer than men nowadays, and you're getting the short end of the stick?
/r/MensRights01/01/23 11:11 AM
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Two brain cells
/r/MensRights31/12/22 11:37 PM
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I'm not saying its common to happen to women. But this type of rape I would say almost certainly happens to women more than men. At minimum I can say I don't fear this type of rape when I go out at night. Can't speak for you, I guess. I just don't think that we need to downplay what the other gender experiences in order to validate our own issues. Feminists do that, and we don't like them because of it.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 04:33 PM
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I think you don't understand my comment. I'm not denying the existence of rape or even rape by stranger. I'm denying that it's a reasonable risk that men may get held at gunpoint and raped in the bushes on a walk out at night. Rape by stranger =/= violent rape at gunpoint in the bushes on a walk
/r/MensRights31/12/22 03:08 PM
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Learn to read, seriously. It's as if I am saying "car crashes that happen on roundabouts tend to be not very deadly" and you are responding saying "false, most car crashes happen on highways". You genuinely need to go back to 3rd grade
/r/MensRights31/12/22 01:56 PM
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Literally room temperature IQ on this one
/r/MensRights31/12/22 01:41 PM
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Sir, Reading comprehension, Goddamn
/r/MensRights31/12/22 01:41 PM
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Yes but scroll up. I am specifically commenting on the likelihood of rape when walking around outside of the house at night. Reading. Comprehension.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 04:45 AM
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Sir, you need to work on your reading comprehension. If someone is out walking around at night they ar eby definition not inside a house with someone they know.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 04:41 AM
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No, but most women who are raped when walking around at night are. The point I'm making is that situational context matters.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 02:54 AM
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Yes I understand that, but I think the particular type of rape men experience isn't the type that is likely to happen like when walking around at night, no? While men do get raped, I don't think it's like "gunpoint on the sidewalk rape you in the bushes" type violent rape that would be relevant in a discussion of walking at night
/r/MensRights31/12/22 02:26 AM
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Also the serious idiocy in saying "women are only 7% of prisoners" and then immediately following up with "women disproportionately affected'
/r/MensRights31/12/22 01:29 AM
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Lmao "women make up only 7% of prisoners" and in three same sentence "women disproportionately affected!!"
/r/MensRights31/12/22 01:27 AM
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Yep I have this argument every time I see or hear women saying that they wish they were a man so they could walk around at night without worrying. Like sorry, no. I understand that I don't have to worry about rape but I have just as much fear of being mugged or killed. I am not remotely comfortable walking around at night. And the fact that women tell themselves men are just demonstrates how little they understand our even TRY to understand the male perspective.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 01:22 AM
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I don't view an abortion as a consequence of sex - I view it as a right and a medical procedure, that allows women the right to opt out of the consequences of sex (parenthood). If you just want to punish men for having sex just say it. Fuck me, I'd literally let you cut off my toe in spite if it meant not paying 18 years of child support. No, I'm not kidding.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 09:10 AM
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Yeah, I wouldn't either. Because it's wrong. Did I suggest men do that though? YES actually - by claiming men have no need for the right to financial abortions. It is FUNCTIONALLY THE SAME. Let me explain: All I said was that we tell women to use birth control, why don’t we tell men to? Or get a vasectomy for instance? WE DO. But if you scroll up you will be reminded that ALL FORMS OF BIRTH CONTROL CAN FAIL. Condoms can fail. Vasectomies can fail. The same way that you should recognize that form…
/r/MensRights30/12/22 01:36 AM
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I am not aware of any other ideologies that feature the patriarchy so prominently.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 01:33 AM
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My point is feminism, a movement that claims words like "firemen" discourage young women from becoming firefighters, doesn't see the irony in naming everything that is wrong with the world after a specific gender. It's fucking ironic.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 01:16 AM
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It’s sexist to suggest men use birth control? Women have birth control options before abortion too right? But you would never tell them "should have kept your legs closed if you didn't want a kid" right? Yeah, I wouldn't either. Because it's wrong. All men are asking for is the same consideration. All birth control options can fail. Condoms can fail. Vasectomies can fail. And by the way, men have far FEWER birth control options available to them than women, and that's before even getting to abor…
/r/MensRights30/12/22 01:15 AM
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Hi, I said quote me bitch And describing him as an MRA isn't defending him
/r/MensRights29/12/22 11:33 PM
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Quote me on where I defended him or piss off then 🤦‍♂️
/r/MensRights29/12/22 11:17 PM
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Mate you're replying to me. Also I never defended any of this shit. You are starting to come off as psychotic. Not a good look buddy.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 11:15 PM
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Please explain. You jumped into a conversation about antifa and then said antofa doesn't matter. That sounds like a moved goalpost if anything to me.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 11:06 PM
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Seriously what the fuck? The context of this conversation is antifa. You are totally ignoring that and ignoring the fact that I've literally never defended vaush here. Learn to fucking read you donkey
/r/MensRights29/12/22 11:00 PM
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Do you know the root word of patriarchy? What is the root word of patriarchy? Please tell me the root word and then explain how it is not gendered. Thank you.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 10:56 PM
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If I blocked you how are you replying dumbass And scroll up. Antifa is the context of the conversation you are replying to
/r/MensRights29/12/22 10:55 PM
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You're just being blatantly sexist. Do you view parenthood as an inevitable consequence of sex for women?
/r/MensRights29/12/22 10:51 PM
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Sorry but what the fuck is your issue? I'm not defending vaush right now im asking what your source is on antifa being some stalin-founded organization. I've literally NEVER heard that before and have no idea what the fuck relation it has to vaush. You sound like a lunatic right now, frankly
/r/MensRights29/12/22 01:46 PM
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That's not the implication here. The implication here is that you can't say MAGA aren't conservative/republican just because most republicans are normal people.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 12:14 PM
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Antifa is an organisation that goes way back to around world war days, set up by Stalin's regime, that still operates today, and it uses violence and intimidation as its mode of operation. Okay but this seems like a /r/conspiracy level take to me?
/r/MensRights29/12/22 12:10 PM
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White
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 12:09 PM
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Height Any 'normal height', with a pretty broad range? I guess like 5 foot flat or upper 4s to 6 foot 6? Income Not that incredibly important. I actually would emphasize career and education here over salary. For example, I would rather date someone with a masters working at a homeless shelter or a lab/university earning 35k than a barista earning 100k. I won't date someone without at least a bachelors degree. Race (if you have a preference) Moderate to strong preference against my own race, odd…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:41 AM
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I'm curious why you don't think its potentially damaging to young boys and men to name the thing you think is wrong with the world after their gender (patriarchy) and the solution the other gender (feminism) Even if you think it's true, couldn't you name it something else? Why did you essentially have to gender good and evil? And you're surprised you have a difficult time reaching the gender you've named the root of evil after?
/r/MensRights29/12/22 11:21 AM
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Financial abortions
/r/MensRights29/12/22 10:30 AM
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This is literally the no true scotsman fallacy. These "loud, obnoxious, radical feminists" are the ones that get discriminatory laws like the Duluth model passed.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 10:29 AM
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Rather than the fact that antifa was set up by Stalin as a goon squad who used violence to intimidate political dissidents Sorry but what the fuck are you smoking?
/r/MensRights29/12/22 10:26 AM
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I don't quite understand your question. I think both women (who benefit from child support) and the government (who don't want to step in and pay welfare) are obstacles to financial abortions. Here in Sweden for instance, you only have to pay for a kid if you’re able to afford to. While this is better than the US, this is still a "have to". I disagree that we should have to. Financial abortions are about giving men the same ability that women have with abortion to opt out of parenthood. Consent …
/r/MensRights29/12/22 10:23 AM
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I said I'm not aware of him having said such things and asked for a source. That's not defending. Please, work in your reading comprehension
/r/MensRights29/12/22 06:07 AM
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Link it and I'll watch it buddy
/r/MensRights29/12/22 05:52 AM
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I never once defended that, I think you need to work on your reading comprehension my dude
/r/MensRights29/12/22 05:51 AM
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To be clear, I'm also an MRA and I think vaush is some degree of MRA (even if i disagree with his prescription of the issue and how it is fixed)
/r/MensRights29/12/22 05:35 AM
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Watch the videos I posted maybe? Why are you so hostile?
/r/MensRights29/12/22 05:27 AM
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Honestly I'm pretty sympathetic to this take. It gives me something to think about. Tactics like this might be the only way financial abortion legislation ever gets passed, sadly.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 03:18 AM
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You're a rare and good person
/r/MensRights29/12/22 03:10 AM
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I can honestly understand that take, especially since rolling back abortion rights is much more achievable than getting financial abortions passed (something i never expect to see in my lifetime). Personally, I think two wrongs don't make a right so I will continue to support abortion rights. But this is maybe the only "anti-abortion" argument I personally sympathize with.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 03:06 AM
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Vaush has openly advocated for killing and hurting people that disagree with him politically. Any source on this..? Not saying he hasn't, but I've not really seen it. The closest I've seen is him advising the trans community to arm themselves for self defense - but that's a far cry from advocating for violence. I would also consider him to be at least some flavor of MRA - even if I disagree with his diagnosis of what causes the issues (patriarchy) and how to fix them (feminism). He regularly dis…
/r/MensRights29/12/22 03:02 AM
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Vaush is an interesting one actually because he is willing to challenge most feminists and leftists on mens rights issues even if he takes heat for it. Videos like this for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OS8ERO2QsQ&ab_channel=TheVaushPit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C468aqP--aQ&t=1861s&ab_channel=Vaush I strongly disagree with his conclusion that men can/should still try to address their issues under feminism and that the "patriarchy" is the issue. But I would still consider him a f…
/r/MensRights29/12/22 02:58 AM
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That's not what "we" say to women. I think you'll find many posters here (like myself) are pro choice for both men and women. I'm in full support of abortion rights. Just give us financial abortion rights too.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 02:44 AM
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Fuck you, they are people
/r/MensRights28/12/22 05:34 AM
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Are you implying Trans people aren't people? Fuck off
/r/MensRights28/12/22 05:18 AM
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Prick
/r/MensRights28/12/22 03:26 AM
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Because it's not murder. Go back to /r/prolife you knob
/r/MensRights27/12/22 11:04 AM
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I do too, but I'm tackling one shitty belief at a time.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 10:20 AM
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Is it my bed time mom
/r/MensRights27/12/22 04:23 AM
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I’m simply disgusted by the lack of class and tact absent from someone who’s in mixed company AT A FAMILY DINNER ON A RELIGIOUS HOLIDAY. But it also offended you on independence day. Caps lock is cruise control for cool, btw
/r/MensRights27/12/22 04:21 AM
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Whether you're upset with the nature of her opinion, or whether you're upset that she expressed a political opinion on a religious holiday. You first claimed that you were only upset she expressed a political opinion on a religious holiday. Then you proceeded to complain about the opinion itself (something something women don't have rights - which isn't what a pro abortion stance means) AND complain about expressing said opinion on a non-religious holiday too
/r/MensRights27/12/22 04:14 AM
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You can't even keep your opinion straight buddy
/r/MensRights27/12/22 04:11 AM
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So no then, it's not a religious holiday. You're mad about her opinion. As I thought.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 04:09 AM
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You got mad that she wore a pro life shirt on independence day too. Is that a religious holiday?
/r/MensRights27/12/22 04:06 AM
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I’m appalled, not at her opinion, but the time and place she chose to express said opinion. Honestly, I don't believe this for a damn moment
/r/MensRights27/12/22 04:01 AM
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Isn’t this Men’s Rights or did I accidentally stumble into TwoX? How many people post on here about the lack of reproductive options when it comes to us? How many are forced into fatherhood against their will, go into bankruptcy, get imprisoned, or kill themselves over it. Yes but the point of this isn't to get angry that women have rights, it's to get angry that we don't have them too. The fact that women have abortion rights is not a problem. Actually, it's a good thing. We should just have fi…
/r/MensRights27/12/22 03:54 AM
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yawn Nah. Abortion right up until the day of birth IMO - but mostly because it annoys people like you.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 02:50 AM
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This is /r/mensrights, not /r/prolife buddy. You might be lost
/r/MensRights27/12/22 02:48 AM
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Frankly, no lol. Nor should unborn baby girls. They don't exist yet in any meaningful sense. They are a clump of cells, and they can't override the free will of people that already exist.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 02:41 AM
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Indeed you have. Abortion rights for all - even financial abortions for men.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 02:38 AM
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Idk, sounds like a cool sweater to me.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 02:11 AM
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Are you on something dude?
/r/MensRights27/12/22 12:51 AM
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The hard evidence is the DNA test saying its not yours, no? Unless she actively has early onset dementia, she knows she had sex with someone else and tried to label only ONE person as the father.
/r/MensRights26/12/22 12:34 AM
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Exactly. Intent to deceive is IMMEDIATELY proven if the child isn't his, unless she has incredibly early onset dementia.
/r/MensRights26/12/22 12:05 AM
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People also ignore that unless you are incredibly rich, financial autonomy IS bodily autonomy. That 18 years of child support for most of us comes from labor, which involves our bodies
/r/MensRights26/12/22 12:01 AM
1

If the mother knows that she had sex with someone else within the approximate 9 month window, then to me intent is incredibly easy. She knows there's a possibility - even if she downplays it in her mind as slight- that there's multiple potential fathers. Yet she is only telling one person they are the father. That right there IS intent to deceive.
/r/MensRights25/12/22 11:58 PM
1

FYI you can block /u/Anti-ThisBot-IB and never be bothered by it again
/r/MensRights23/12/22 01:57 AM
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In a world where feminists put things like the duluth model in place, these are not mutually exclusive
/r/MensRights23/12/22 01:27 AM
1

More power to you then. For what it's worth, I go at other guys for hating on women when I see it here. Somewhere back in my post history, maybe a week ago? I called out a guy for basically wanting to legalize rape in marriages. I think people get a little skeptical and defensive of women who enter our space though and tell us how to think or what is acceptable to say - because frankly, almost the whole western world is feminist now and thinks MRA are lunatics. This is and should be a safe space…
/r/MensRights20/12/22 05:06 PM
1

Some fair points. But I wonder, are you on feminist subs or women's subs making dramatic "I'm leaving" posts over how they discuss men?
/r/MensRights20/12/22 04:29 PM
1

This sub doesn't claim to be 100% women positive. Does /r/feminism claim to be 100% men positive? Have you never seen people there talk down about men? (I'll give you a hint - I have. Every day.) I don't think the FDS type comments on /r/feminism are representative of most people there. But it's their safe space - they might have frustrations about men they need to voice once in a while. Same deal here. Is it ideal? No. But it can be reasonably understood I think. (To be clear- the issue I take …
/r/MensRights20/12/22 03:59 PM
1

Sure does. But it should cause you to stop and think, at least. How many other times have you misread and been angry because you saw what you wanted to see, not what was actually going on?
/r/MensRights20/12/22 03:37 PM
1

I asked for proof too, and the proof she gave me was a recent article was posted here with the title "are women getting angrier", and she found the title to be highly offensive. She neglected to notice that the article was crossposted from /r/feminism where it was posted with the EXACT SAME TITLE, and that it was also linking to a BBC news article with THE EXACT SAME TITLE. Sometimes you see what you want/expect to see.
/r/MensRights20/12/22 02:51 PM
1

The title "are women getting angrier" literally came directly from the same title used at /r/feminism, AND from the title of the BBC article. Also, I thought you said direct interactions YOU have had?
/r/MensRights20/12/22 02:49 PM
1

I think this is better suited for couples counselling. Don't really see what this has to do with mens rights.
/r/MensRights20/12/22 02:25 PM
1

Idk, I scrolled a bit through your post history and don't see what you're talking about. People don't agree with you on what feminism is, but that's not "belittling women". Care to post a specific interaction you had? Or do you just wanna vaguepost?
/r/MensRights20/12/22 02:17 PM
1

Feminists claim that men should resolve their issues under the umbrella of feminism. But if you ever try to actually discuss mens issues in feminist spaces, you get shouted down. I mean this should be evidence enough of the insincerity of the argument. Taken right from their sidebar: all posts and discussions must be relevant to women's issues
/r/MensRights18/12/22 07:06 AM
2

This just in: both are possible Go find someone who wants to talk to you. It's not me.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 01:40 AM
1

I'm fucking busy and can't be fucked with this right now but you aren't taking a hint Fuck. Off.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 01:39 AM
1

Like masculinity. Which they call toxic. Or the patriarchy, which is literally named after men and blamed for all evils. Can you piss off please.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 01:34 AM
1

Masculinity as a whole
/r/MensRights18/12/22 01:10 AM
9

Well, to me the answer to this isn't to continue down the route of "normalizing busting your ass". I think everyone, men and women included, could benefit from taking a step or two back and actually enjoying their life. Work to live, don't live to work. That said; I think the "incentive" for men to grind like that stems from issues like child support or expectation to provide, and are colossally fucked up. You see it also in issues where women-initiated divorce spike up as soon as they are earni…
/r/MensRights17/12/22 10:28 AM
17

I don't think most people here agree with the feminist notion that the "patriarchy" is the root of all evils. In fact I'd go further to say I think that identifying the "patriarchy" as the root of all issues is in itself sexist.
/r/MensRights17/12/22 08:44 AM
1

They literally present masculine traits as inherently problematic
/r/MensRights17/12/22 07:41 AM
1

To be clear; whoever made the AI programmed in that jokes about women are not acceptable use, and jokes about men are.
/r/MensRights17/12/22 04:12 AM
1

Also I suggested you invent sex robots
/r/MensRights17/12/22 01:46 AM
1

Idk what else you want bro. You fucking suggest another alternative then
/r/MensRights17/12/22 01:43 AM
1

Well, he tried to stay away and look what (still) happened
/r/MensRights15/12/22 03:06 PM
1

My word of the year is chimichanga
/r/MensRights15/12/22 11:43 AM
7

Men's sexual needs must be removed from being held hostage by women. I mean as an MRA, I don't exactly know what you want here other than being legally allowed to rape your wife. It sounds like you disagree that consent matters within a marriage, which is the very "rape culture" type shit feminists go on an on about. Not a great look So like... can you not? Unless you want sex robots invented or something. In which case... go ahead.
/r/MensRights15/12/22 11:41 AM
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However, he wasn't wrong about the rapists and murderers coming from Mexico. There are some genuinely evil people down there, and I mean demonically and irreparably evil people. Is it that hard to not be a fucking racist bro. Keep your trash opinions to yourself. Has nothing to do with MR.
/r/MensRights15/12/22 03:13 AM
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I mean... what's the point
/r/MensRights15/12/22 03:10 AM
1

Can't speak for others, but in our household my dad cooked every meal. From scratch.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 01:42 PM
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My Father was actually the primary cook in our house, my mother couldn't cook. He definitely did all of the major holiday feasts, like Christmas, Thanksgiving, Easter, and the rest. I wouldn't call that typical though and I wouldn't assume it would be typical for anyone else. Same in my household actually
/r/MensRights14/12/22 01:41 PM
2

Given the country/state in question has abortion legalized; absolutely.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 05:50 AM
18

You are toxic and a sexist.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 07:08 AM
1

Just to check, does that mean I should make money or babies? Up to you. Now show us the same respect
/r/MensRights12/12/22 06:49 AM
1

Women in there are literally admitting "I've hit lots of men" and no one there is calling them out. Just saying.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 06:11 AM
1

You can see that in that very thread. They think it's different because when the woman hit the man it wasn't violence.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 04:07 AM
22

This just in: fights aren't fair. You physically assault someone, they have no obligation to be "fair" back. Their self interest is in ending the threat.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 03:24 AM
1

OP is also a wife beater apparently. Look at his post history
/r/MensRights11/12/22 04:26 PM
0

As a liberal: Eat my fucking ass
/r/MensRights11/12/22 09:49 AM
12

I've noticed it as well, especially on /r/childfree Tried to call it out a few times but I get basically endless hate comments, so I gave up. But /r/childfree is filled with women celebrating their reproductive freedom (more power to them) while blaming men for their lack of reproductive freedom (no, they don't see the irony) All while shitting on men who have had a condom fail and ended up with kids they didn't want, calling them deadbeat dads and the like. Concepts like financial abortions see…
/r/MensRights11/12/22 02:37 AM
1

Even pre reversal of roe, none of you were advocating or even thinking about financial abortions for men. Also i have a hard time thinking you are "trying to imagine it" when in almost every men's rights related post here, you reply with something almost entirely unrelated. It's like you're actively avoiding replying to or considering topics that make you uncomfortable. If that's the case just leave. Gtfo the sub.
/r/MensRights10/12/22 08:14 PM
1

Narrow minded and biased. You talk about wanting progress for women, but you can't even imagine having that conversation about men.
/r/MensRights10/12/22 08:03 PM
2

Jesus christ you are impossible to have a conversation with
/r/MensRights10/12/22 08:02 PM
1

Once again, you have entirely missed the point
/r/MensRights10/12/22 04:14 PM
1

No one pays. Women can get sperm donors without a partner. This would be treated the same way. Her choice, her problem.
/r/MensRights10/12/22 03:54 PM
1

You are narrow minded and biased
/r/MensRights10/12/22 03:45 PM
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Sorry but you were a fucking dumbass here. Creepy even
/r/MensRights10/12/22 03:36 PM
1

Single women can get sperm donors and become mothers by themselves. The legal system doesn't force there to be 2 parents to pay for a kid in this case. If the man doesn't consent to parenthood (opts for what is called a 'financial abortion') this is exactly how the situation should be treated. She got an anonymous sperm donor. It's none of the states business. She made her choice to keep the kid knowing he's not interested, the same way a single woman taking a donation from a sperm bank knew she…
/r/MensRights10/12/22 03:32 PM
1

You are again missing the point. The point is that women legally have (at least in many places) an option to not become a parent if they have sex. And society more widely agrees that for women, consent to sex does not mean consent to parenthood. Men are treated entirely differently, both by the system (legally there is no opt out) and culturally (both pro lifers and feminists who think men shouldn't have sex if they don't want kids. The point is that many of us on mensrights advocate for financi…
/r/MensRights10/12/22 03:22 PM
1

You are missing the point entirely.
/r/MensRights10/12/22 03:18 PM
1

I did not advocate for limiting access to abortion. Fuck you for suggesting that.
/r/MensRights10/12/22 02:14 PM
1

Also you ignored everything I brought up about sex not being consent for parenthood. Why did you ignore it? Is it because you have no argument?
/r/MensRights10/12/22 02:10 PM
1

Believe you me I would 1000% rather have to visit the doctor and have actual control over my reproductive choices than be able to buy a "men I PROBABLY won't be fucked for 18 years" solution at the pharmacy.
/r/MensRights10/12/22 02:09 PM
19

This reads like it was written by AI lol
/r/MensRights10/12/22 08:38 AM
1

Prevention is still the best method to avoid problems. Prevention methods are not 100% perfect. A man can take every single option available to him (condom, vasectomy) and STILL end up with an accidental pregnancy. Guess what, the law doesn't fucking care. It will penalize us with 18 years of child support anyways because apparently ONLY FOR MEN is consent to sex consent to parenthood.
/r/MensRights10/12/22 06:48 AM
1

The point is society writ large - and feminists - largely agree that consent to sex is not consent to parenthood for women. I agree with them - it isn't. Women should have the right to abortion. But those exact same people will tell men "you shouldn't have had sex if you didn't want a kid" or "you should have kept it in your pants". How is that okay? I anyone told a woman "you should have kept your legs closed if you didn't want a kid" they would be rightly skewered for it. The fact is women hav…
/r/MensRights10/12/22 06:45 AM
1

No, but you're trying to pressure us to find solution for our issues under feminism - a hostile ideology - because YOU think YOUR definition of feminism is the correct one.
/r/MensRights09/12/22 01:51 PM
1

I'm a little busy this morning, but two ways this happened were it was proposed to offer men who completed mandatory military service some extra points on the civil service exam - this is an exam that is incredibly difficult and can take years to study for. Which women can do in peace, and proposed to treat young men who enter a company directly after their service as 2nd year associates not as 1st year Both were opposed by feminist groups. Young Men here lose 18 to 21 months of their life and a…
/r/MensRights04/12/22 11:42 PM
1

As someone who lives in korea; the issue is a little more serious - feminist groups here actively protest recent attempts to compensate young men for these lost years of their lives.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 10:24 PM
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I got snipped explicitly to avoid this situation. It's probably the one area where my overdrive-level-anxiety has served me well in life. Never was able to maintain a relationship once sex was involved due to the level of anxiety I had about pregnancy/child support (to be clear, even with strict contraceptive use). Very much feel for you guys, hang in there.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 01:23 PM
1

They are not currently legal (for men). They would absolutely be moral, which is why it should be legal.
/r/MensRights29/11/22 03:32 PM
10

Well, I think all pedos are named julia fox
/r/MensRights29/11/22 02:19 PM
1

I don't consider it abandonment. I consider it as a single person choosing to bring a child into the world by herself. No different than a single woman filing for a sperm donor. women can legally be "dirtbags" but as men we should be above that You misunderstand my post perhaps. I don't think women are dirtbags for having contraceptive options or the right to abort. It's their body. I just think men should have the right to financial/paper abortions. If she brings a kid into this world knowing t…
/r/MensRights29/11/22 02:12 PM
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Men have far fewer birth control options at every step of the way to boot. We have condoms and vasectomies, and thats it. Women have birth control pills, spermicide, female condoms, IUDs, diaphrams, implants, and even abortion. Women exclusively have a recognized right in society that "consent to sex does not equal consent to parenthood" because they have so many options. For men, consent to sex still legally means consent to parenthood.
/r/MensRights29/11/22 10:02 AM
1

Consent to sex is not consent to parenthood for women. They have choices every step of the way, even after birth (abortion, adoption, drop your kid off at a fire department) and would never pay a dime in child support. It's not "being a dirtbag" for a man to want the same rights. Society discriminates, so it's morally okay to fuck off somewhere and go dark.
/r/MensRights29/11/22 09:57 AM
2

Easier than a DNA test would probably be to go get a new sperm count test done. If it's still zero, it's not yours.
/r/MensRights29/11/22 09:46 AM
1

You realize condoms can fail right?
/r/MensRights28/11/22 01:20 PM
1

Yes, because no feminist is ever a shithead. Not saying all are of course, but I just don't understand your hangup on this. You really think no one who self identifies as a feminist has ever done a shitty thing? Only non-feminist women do?
/r/MensRights28/11/22 10:39 AM
4

I mean, I sterilized myself because I don't want kids and don't give a shit if its reversible. BTW I think you'd be hard pressed to find a urologist telling you that vasectomies are reversible. Every doc I talked to told me to consider it permanent. And it was a bit difficult to even find one willing to do it since I don't have kids already.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 04:25 AM
1

I don't mind them saying they aren't anti men. Not all of them are. I mind them trying to shut down men's rights movements by saying "feminism is for men's rights too".
/r/MensRights18/10/22 05:10 AM
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