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I think you’re confusing your sexual preferences with the ideas you’re supporting and contributing to by saying things “not attracted to a guy who wants dick.” Men who fetishize bisexual women because they think she’ll have MFF threesomes with them are just as disrespectful, because you’re both reducing a person to their sexual preferences…but you’re also telling people to keep their nose out of others’ sexual preferences and that they’re “not the supreme authority”. I totally support you having…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 01:38 PM
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The amount of outright homophobic comments in this thread is pretty telling. Women loooove to point out what they consider to be “toxic masculinity” but enforce the exact same gender stereotypes in spite of all their progressive bravado
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 01:29 PM
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The most common theory is that humiliation fetishes are rooted in that person typically holding some power/status in normal life, thus the fantasy is that power being taken away from them in the bedroom. This can apply to women, and also isn’t always cuckolding per se, although the inverse (cuckqueen) does exist for women too. Some men with cuckold fantasies are very powerful, some may have erectile dysfunction, some are in an open relationship and just enjoy watching their wives/partners having…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:17 PM
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Exactly, basic maintenance and looking your best will get you far. Only other thing I’ll say is location plays a huge role too - bigger cities means access to more people, more chances, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 10:55 PM
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There’s no contradiction; what you’re describing is not compatibility either, which is way more than “pleasant to be around”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 09:49 PM
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I literally see my friends do it all the time lol Granted, they have their shit together and are fun to be around
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 09:01 PM
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People like that want a Fuckenstein’s Monster of their exes - ex #2’s face, ex #3’s body, etc and then they wonder why their new relationships never work out. I date my gf because she is absolutely nothing like my exes lol “Comparison is the thief of joy”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 08:12 PM
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Meanwhile normal/average dudes could literally get a decent haircut and dress clothes that fit properly and do just (or almost lol) as well as your friends as long they don’t act like fuckin weirdos
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 08:01 PM
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Oh yeah, and even if you’re worried about approaching, you go for a low stakes innocuous approach, “what are you drinking, it looks good”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:39 PM
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How? Lol this doesn’t prove anything - answer the question: who are 10/10 women dating of all the 10/10 men are taken by women 9/10 and lower?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:11 PM
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Holy shit this is so true, although I’d say it’s more that I notice women giving signals ALL the time and if you’re not completely socially inept, you’ll actually catch them. THAT’S when you approach. In my experience, women don’t tend to be very direct as in, “here’s my number” (although sometimes they are) but if they’re attracted to you they will very often do things like: steal glances at you then quickly look away, hover in your vicinity, fix their hair, makeup, clothes etc when they’re aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:05 PM
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some of the men here are confused by the fact that attraction and compatibility are nuanced and that someone’s “preferences,” is their way of explaining who they’re attracted to + compatible with. Perfectly stated - I know several men who are not conventionally attractive and they consistently get with women far more physically attractive than them because they’re actually decent dudes who are a good time to be around. OP saying men have to work harder for women who are less attractive is just s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:39 PM
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You're trying to sell me on dick I don't want and didn't ask to have the opportunity to "purchase". Just say you don’t like being cold approached and move on - here’s an actual post for you to go reeeee and clutch your pearls at.. A lot of women over there are saying that they’re okay with a man politely approaching them….which was exactly my original point. The man in your example was not polite or respectful, so it doesn’t apply. Try again. Bahaha. And learn to what? There are different types …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:52 AM
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Cold approaching is unnecessary and so so so many women have given mountains of feedback saying how much they hate it. Nah YOU don’t like it, but it’s perfectly acceptable to approach someone in a social setting like a bar or club. No one has a right to your time, but you don’t get to dictate what people do and don’t do either. And not all women hate being approached like you, especially in the correct setting. YOU interpret cold approaches as inherently disrespectful regardless of how the man b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 09:56 AM
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Not sifting through that wall of nonsense lol If a man simply approaching you triggered you that much, you either have glass bones and paper skin, or traumas that you still need to sort out through therapy. Hope things improve for you homie
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:23 AM
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Ahh you are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:15 AM
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PPD men want to be able to say that it's negligible because then it justifies actions like the other guy on this thread is pushing for which is the supposed right to make women uncomfortable No, these men are tired of approaching and being rejected or treated like creeps even when they’re being respectful, those are the complaints I see. They’re exhausted from approaching women in general, but if they stop trying, they will be alone. Are they supposed to wait around for someone like you to initi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 11:08 PM
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I think most men don’t want to come off as creeps inadvertently, but that’s not stopping them from approaching women in a respectful manner. You’re best off approaching women who are showing you some sort of interest in the first place since those are your actual options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:32 PM
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Lol this is such a desperate grasp at straws to try and defend that you’re not in the minority via semantics. There’s also a huge difference between striking up a conversation and actually pursuing someone/making your interest known, for example, giving your number and asking the other person out, which again, most women do not do. So regardless of how you want to spin this, you’re still in the minority. 3 random ladies commenting on a Reddit post isn’t nearly enough power to get into the stats …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:29 PM
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Women are a minority on Reddit to begin with, and most of the women in this sub aren’t saying that they approached their partners, so yes, you are a minority. Generally speaking, western women either don’t approach men or are very passive in the process (I.e hovering in a man’s vicinity). PPD women are also always going on and on about their safety, so most may not even feel comfortable approaching a man and giving him their number, regardless of how much control she thinks she’s taking. I’ve al…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 09:37 PM
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If we have sex everyday it just gets boring and that's the worst thing you could do if you want consistent long term sex. I agree with this as man with a normal libido/testosterone levels for my age. I think satisfying sex is also a key element here too - I’d much rather have great sex once or twice per week than mediocre or even bad sex 3-5x per week. This is also probably why gay/lesbian couples have sex less frequently, and for gay men especially, there’s a lot of uh…prep work involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 09:01 PM
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Lol whatever you say
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 10:35 PM
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plenty of bad men get to be in relationships with women who aren’t 22 yo whatever you want to believe they are to make you feel good about yourself and your wonderfulness. Yep, and those relationships don’t tend to work out. Women used to put up with abusive partners because they didn’t have any choice due to options for work/education for women. Nowadays women make their own money and marry for love, which is why the divorce rate is actually its lowest it’s been since the 70s. They don’t need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:44 PM
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You didn’t call anything out, and none of you have formed an even remotely convincing argument of any substance. Typing “Just world fallacy” is not an argument - actually tell me how I’m wrong, because I advocated setting boundaries and being direct in your communication, which is exactly what RP teaches. Seems like you just don’t like my phrasing because it’s too “blue pilled” for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:42 PM
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Lol literally every Red Piller’s argument (besides calling something a straw man argument), and you didn’t even apply the logical fallacy correctly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 03:54 PM
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Your experience is certainly influenced by your age demographic and location. I don’t really hear people even using the term “red pilled” in the context of dating outside of Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 01:26 PM
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You aren't a dick by doing so but you'll be presented as one. I get you and agree, but this is the same reason a lot of guys call women “bitches” or resort to insults if they get rejected too. You never truly win and get socially punished whatever you do, but as a man you ought to grow completely careless of it, and it'll benefit you as you'll prioritize yourself, and it'll make you seem more attractive. Agree with all of this as well. I mentioned to another commenter that the actual principles …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 01:05 PM
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boundaries/assertiveness/banters/addressing shit test right My point is you can do all these things and not be a dick, regardless of whether it’s red or blue pilled - is that what you’re saying is pedantic? Its CMV, I went through a similar experience to OP and when I rebounded from being a doormat and started being a dick backfired. Being a good guy with boundaries has worked really well so I disagree that women aren’t attracted to nice guys (and by that I do not mean the doormat “I was nice to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 12:07 PM
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I used to think like you, that being “nice” was weak and that women didn’t respect me, but what was actually happening is that I was just being a doormat, and not just to women. This addressed OP’s claims because I had the same experience as him, but then when I went from being a “nice guy” to being an asshole, that didn’t work either. I now have much better success being a good guy who has boundaries - so no, you don’t have to be a dick to attract women and yes, women do like men who are actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 11:44 AM
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How is this not the topic? OP said he used to be a doormat, then he started acting like a dick and suddenly he’s getting laid all the time and having hardcore wrestling matches in his bedroom. I had the exact same experience - I was a pushover thinking that meant I was a nice person and eventually someone would like me, then I went the opposite direction but being a dick backfired and didn’t work. Ultimately being “nice” while having boundaries and being assertive did though, so I disagreed. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 11:39 AM
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Guess you can’t read either because OP talked about how he was that very guy: my own personal experience as an attractive male I can tell you first hand my results skyrocketed when I changed my behavior. …then started acting like a dick because he thought it’d get him laid: I can personally say with 100% certainty that I saw a night and day difference in my results after going through the “anger” phase all men experience when they hit rock bottom after trying every possible way to be the hopeles…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 11:20 AM
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Being quietly confident may look cool, but having your bluff called and getting shit on looks even worse than not doing anything. Hence I said you need confidence with substance. I know what I provide as a partner and it’s better than what a lot of other men offer. some of the sexiest women I’ve been with were genuinely turned off by “goodness” And I worked for Amazon, most of the women in their corporate office were smokin hot and many were genuinely turned off by the wannabe bad boy routine. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 03:28 AM
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He said women aren’t attracted to nice guys, and I disagreed and gave plenty of reasons why - he can provide anecdotes of when his “approach” worked for him and I can provide the same with regard to mine. Doesn’t “nullify” anything, the point still stands. Good women date good people - you and OP are hyper fixated on 22 year old wannabe influencer e-girls who have no brain but those are the only people RP strategies work on. Just because you’re a kind person doesn’t mean you don’t know how to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 03:18 AM
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Yep, I read the entire thing and disagreed, you can even see where I quoted OPs post. What about this response is “standard”? It seems like you focused on one particular section of my response and didn’t give it any further thought. You certainly didn’t provide any rebuttal, and all OP said was being confident and assertive weren’t enough, being “genuinely a dick” is all that’s worked for him, which isn’t an argument. OP literally addresses this point in his opening sentence. No he doesn’t, OP t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 03:10 AM
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I also thought that if I lost weight, got contacts, extensions, and wore dresses and makeup to school all the time like the popular girls in movies do, I would be popular. Give yourself some credit for putting work into your appearance though. Much like the RP motto of “just lift bro”, there are no guarantees. You mentioned your insecurity as well - this is what I’m talking about with having substance to confidence. The people who are just mean by default are the most insecure people around. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 09:49 PM
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There are so many men I know who are so successful but they are so awful and bad. I could never have feelings for a person like that no matter how they look or what they have. I think this is where a lot of people go astray in life in general - they see other people who are successful in spite of the awful things they’ve done, and decide that they need to lower themselves in order to get ahead. True, lots of people do bad things to get ahead, and it can work. But I’ve found that you can also be …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 09:34 PM
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I get what you’re saying, but I also read your comments about that situation you were in - more or less or negged that girl about her gums, were direct in your intentions by saying you wouldn’t hang out with her because you wanted sex and she wasn’t putting out, and then provided social proof that you’re desirable by having sex with her friend. There are “red” and “blue” ways of doing any of those things, so if my way is more “blue pilled”, that’s fine. It’s worked out well for me regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 09:26 PM
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Lol appreciate your response and I do actually agree that negging can work in some instances depending on the person. I think the stuff this guy was touching on - being direct (“I’m not talking to you because I want sex and you won’t put out”) and teasing (the big gums remark) can actually work, but like you said, context matters. If OP is in high school or college, that shit might work, but for a lot of women that behavior would only “work” with a ton of collateral, or completely backfire. So y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 08:54 PM
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I really appreciate the kind words! I’m older now, I think these things take time. I also think certain young men see some degree of “success” in getting a woman’s attention through negativity, and just keep repeating that pattern thinking it will eventually get them the type of relationship they want; it’s a very dark path to go down. I’ve seen you post on here before and know you have your own negative experiences, so thank you again for the encouragement. Hope you are doing well
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 07:39 PM
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Women on PPD are always harping on how much they hate negging and that it doesn’t work, making fun of any woman’s appearance is absolutely not okay either, and you yourself even said he kind of pressured this girl into sex, so this comes off as quite contradictory to what I see women on PPD saying. Given that most women in PPD would describe him as “an asshole” for all of those things, you’re actually proving his point if he slept with those women, which was his end goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 07:31 PM
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How so? I said that quiet confidence wins in the face of unhinged aggression, and that you should have substance to back up your confidence. My sense of confidence comes from knowing what I offer as a partner to women is better than most other men. I don’t get how this is a “blue pill version” of confidence - other men have respect for me too, mostly for my career/educational accomplishments, but also just being well rounded since Im in good shape, have interesting hobbies that I’m good at, etc.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 07:17 PM
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Lol There’s plenty I disagree with from both sides but whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 05:14 PM
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Disagree. Women do like men who are kind, but moreover than a “nice guy”, women want a good guy. It’s possible to be “nice” as in polite, considerate and approachable, but it’s also possible to have all of those qualities and still be assertive and “dominant” in other ways. Quiet confidence in the face of unhinged aggression usually wins out, especially when you have substance to back up the confidence. I used to think like you, that being “nice” was weak and that women didn’t respect me, but wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 03:28 PM
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Wendy’s is the center for sexual wellness studies
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 01:50 PM
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Yes he wrote the cookbook for sex 2.0
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 01:30 PM
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Okay and I already said that I’ve seen men defending body positivity on IG; Imgur has plenty of progressive posts/memes so even if there are nasty comments, body positive ideas themselves have still made their way to the mainstream and are here to stay. You’re also implying that because it happens some of the time, or in some places, it happens all the time, everywhere. There’s a proliferation of body positive content, and hateful, disrespectful language is against most platforms’ TOS, so we’re …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 04:09 PM
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Go to posts about body positivity and it will mostly be men bashing the concept. Again…where??? Are they brigading r/Askwomen? Because I guarantee any comment would get “removed for derailing” - as with all the women’s/feminist subs, which are heavily moderated. No one gets to bash a concept and THEN try to argue they accept it but are just critical. There's a difference between bashing and criticism. How is this bashing a concept? I pointed out a way in which the movement is not inclusive and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 02:17 PM
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All good re:CMV, shit happens. I don’t think they’re outliers simply because a hobby like weightlifting/fitness tends to lead to a lot of lifestyle changes. I became a much better cook when I started learning how to balance my macros to optimize my result at the gym, and as a result, I wasn’t just fit, but I was knowledgeable about many areas of health science, and I could cook delicious healthy meals. ALL of that is appealing to a potential partner, in my case, straight women. It’s not just ane…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 05:54 PM
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This should be CMV but I’m gonna disagree. More fit = more opportunities for most people. Being in shape literally puts you above 30% of the country in some cases, that’s a huge advantage to have in the dating game. If you become noticeable because of how fit you are, that puts you in a much better position to date the people you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 05:46 PM
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Did you ever think that this “we always demand our rights and men don’t listen so now we’re gonna be MEAN”- approach is exactly why men don’t care? Because I can 100% tell you I wouldn’t even be commenting here right now if feminists actually stopped all the “men are trash” talk and just used the words “some men” or “too many men” instead of always saying “men do x,y, and z do IDGAF about y’all!” Sounds like you’ve experienced some sort of trauma, hoping for healing for you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 05:23 PM
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Actually you seem to be confusing systemic and interpersonal problems. Just because there are men who are oppressors or abusers, that does not implicate all men as the same. We also don’t have superpowers to be everywhere at once and always step in to protect women from whoever their abusers are, which can sometimes be other women. Lesbian relationships have the highest rates of domestic abuse in the country - are men supposed to intervene there?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 05:20 PM
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How am I and other men rejecting it as a concept? Go to any of the actual men’s subs and you’ll see a how depressed so many men are because they never receive any attention or compliments; and guess what? Other men are there to support them. As I said before, I see plenty of men defending women/body positivity on other more wide-reaching social platforms like Instagram, and that includes calling out sexist/misogynistic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:27 PM
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See but this because this is how you interpret things, that men only care because we can’t make fun of women’s bodies anymore, but that not it - it’s the double standard that y’all freak tf out over every little comment, even if it’s not even bad, but the minute men say anything about the cruel jokes women make about our bodies, we’re “fragile”. It’s not tit-for-tat, it’s how about you practice what you preach Sounds like you spend most of your time on incel forums and incel adjacent content lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:49 PM
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Don’t expect women to do anything. And yes there is body positivity among men; I just notice women, especially on Instagram and other social platforms, are still going to the same insults about men’s bodies, but if anything is said about women’s appearances, good or bad, it’s like the end of the world. Again, I frequently see men also coming to the defense of women in these posts; meanwhile, most of y’all only every insult or talk negatively about men as a thin veiled “joke”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 02:55 PM
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Lol that was a loaded question and I have no patience for it - everything with women like you is about demonizing men and blaming us for all the problems of the world. Women’s problems are never a result of accountability, it’s always patriarchy and oppression lol I can point you to numerous men’s groups that actually do good but I’m sure you’ll dismiss it, but if you actually cared you’d look for yourself. The group of bikers that accompanied victims of abuse to court dates and to school, or an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 02:15 PM
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Let me guess - when we hurt and control Women’s bodies right? Always the oppression Olympics lol Go to r/askmen, r/askmenover30, r/menslib or basically none of the incel/RP subs, which you seem to think are emblematic of all men - you’ll find we’re not talking about women or their bodies, but to actually discuss things that have to do with being men in modern society. Plenty angry feminists come to brigade and tell us our problems aren’t real and its all just because some neckbeards have done it…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 01:19 PM
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Yeh on IG I see men defending women and shutting down bodyshaming all the time, so I’m not buying it. That’s actually exactly what inspired this post because I’ve been seeing men call that shit out in the comments on IG. Don’t spend much time on IMGUR but have never looked in the comments section. Meanwhile, all the female meme pages, every other post is a small dick joke with a dildo ad or FashionNova ad. All of those posts especially body shame men because it seems like women only band togethe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 11:29 AM
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I haven’t seen anyone post anything like that, I see plenty of rude comments but I don’t make them myself. I do however, see a lot of men calling out body shaming against women on IG
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 11:27 AM
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“We” is people in general. I spend a ton of time in male spaces/subs and on this sub, I rarely ever see them lol Where are you seeing these posts? I’m not doubting you, I just want to see the post and see men’s responses for myself. I mentioned before how I often see men on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter actually defending women and shutting down this type of behavior - I rarely if ever see that for men, and it’s usually women who are making fun of men’s bodies in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:51 PM
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I dont think most people walk around just hurling insults at each other, but I do think though, when people see there are social ramifications for one joke but not another, they push their luck and will keep making the same jokes until they’re no longer socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:48 PM
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I appreciate your feedback, and yes I have a wonderful family, girlfriend and friends, I am extremely fortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:46 PM
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Agreed, but the fact that people cannot change their height nor help whether or not they lose their hair is precisely why it’s so hypocritical
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:45 PM
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I think you misinterpreted the post - I said that most people (particularly women) still find it okay to body shame men, especially if they are bald. We don’t see people shutting that down the way they do with fat shaming or any of the insults lobbed at women (and yes people obviously stick make fun of women’s bodies, but they are met with a lot of criticism and backlash).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:42 PM
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Wouldn’t take so much issue with it if it wasn’t so hypocritical
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:40 PM
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Body positivity isn't really widespread for anyone. Definitely agree with you there, and also that it’s not great for women. My one caveat is that I see way more men jumping in to shut down jokes like that, which are directed towards women, on larger social platforms (Facebook, Instagram, Twitter). I rarely see the inverse from women, but rather, I usually see women making fun of men for the very things I described.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:36 PM
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So then it’s okay to body shame people because some people still do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:34 PM
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Did I body shame anyone in this post? I actually said it was good that we don’t fat shame people anymore because it’s cruel, and just because some men are rude doesn’t mean that I’m implicated with the rest, unless we’re painting in broad strokes here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:31 PM
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I’m really glad that your circle of friends doesn’t do this, but that unfortunately doesn’t gesture towards the rest of the world. And unfortunately, the only way to really avoid them is to just…not go out or use social media lol There are a lot of young men who don’t like to leave the house because of how embarrassing it is for them to be losing their hair - not that this is a healthy response, but do you think all the jokes help?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:30 PM
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Since you’re lazy, you said “2.” Great lol Can’t answer why there’s no difference between someone who slept with 5 people and someone who slept with 20, and yet you want to throw out that people are strawmaning you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:47 PM
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So at what number of sexual partners would you consider somebody “promiscuous”? And the person is 40 years old And you said there was no difference between somebody who slept with 5 people and somebody who slept with 20 people, so if there’s no difference, how can promiscuous people exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:44 PM
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There are promiscuous people. So then there are people who are not promiscuous, and there’s a difference. You lose
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:39 PM
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Actually you said there was no difference, so therefore you don’t think one person is more promiscuous than the other. If there’s no difference, there are no promiscuous people, or are there?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:36 PM
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So there are no promiscuous people?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:32 PM
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Lol what? All you say is “I don’t see a difference” - that’s just ignorance
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:28 PM
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Lol maybe not smug but you’re ignorant af. How do you not see the difference between sleeping with that many people? Just to have access to that many partners means you’re leading different lives, one has clearly had more. There’s a huge difference
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:25 PM
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There’s evidence to suggest that humans used to have orgies but this just sounds like incel fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 03:42 PM
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How much of that attraction is settling though? As in, the standards are so low that it’s just “you’ll do”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:15 PM
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Name calling and using words like “simp” proves just how much of a hypocrite you are. And for the record most women don’t post thirst traps. You’re so desperate to not be like other women you’ll trash them the same way you do men lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 08:23 PM
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Actually it can be both - I hang out with decent women, and none of them post thirst traps. And you are a typical woman because y’all can’t ever accept responsibility for your actions and always have to blame patriarchy and men instead of actually holding yourselves accountable. The women in my life don’t blame men for their problems, and they’re more successful than people like you because of it. If the women posting thirst traps don’t want attention on their bodies, they can do something of va…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:01 AM
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Actually none of the women I know post stuff like this. Typical woman blaming men for what women do lmaooo Just admit y’all are hypocritical af
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:31 PM
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This is more proof that women objectify themselves for attention, but go off “Lillth” lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:03 PM
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This is already becoming a bad faith argument on your end, because before you were saying that men would love to be paid to be in a relationship and called it being a “hobosexual.” If the men you’re now referring to aren’t in a relationship/couple, how can they benefit financially from a sugar mamma? And how can a man use women for money he is in no way involved with? Even if you’re using someone for a place to stay as with “hobosexuality”, you’ve still done so under the pretense that you’re in …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 06:37 PM
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Considering that in the US, more than one-third of couples (39%) keep their finances in separate accounts, and another 39% were fully merged, or “all in” with sharing joint bank accounts, credit cards and bills, no, I’d say most men are not. And I’m sure you’re soooooo strong and independent yourself Edit: In about a third of married or cohabiting couples in the United States, women bring in half or more of the earnings, a significant increase from the past. But in most couples, men contribute m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:13 PM
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Sure “women aren’t a hive mind” and “feminism isn’t a monolith” but let’s generalize about men - y’all are the biggest hypocrites ever lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:56 PM
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You say “it’s a futile effort” but acknowledge that there’s been progress made, and so how is it that men aren’t listening?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 03:21 PM
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I sure do, but y’all seem very insistent upon blaming men for everything
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 10:21 PM
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Right so what about the 8 women who voted for the abortion ban in Texas? This is more an issue of the Bible Belt than “men don’t listen to us” - Evangelicals don’t want you to get abortions or have access to free birth control, and there are plenty of good Christian women who are doing more harm to other women than men such as myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 09:55 PM
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If this post / subreddit isn't reflective of a victim complex I don't know what is This is how you wound up here lol Would it really kill you to acknowledge that men have struggles and that feminists are extremely dismissive of them? Because it’s literally exactly what you did
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:44 PM
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I think what people need to grasp is being angry at a group vs. angry at a individual. I can still hold feminists responsible for not addressing really crappy tactics; I understand the genesis and meanings of phrases like “men are trash” and even “kill all men”, but I still disagree with them. I know if I show up at a BLM rally at as a white person I will be seen as an ally. Not necessarily true, there are plenty of groups that would actually view you as a white savior or as a privileged person …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:26 PM
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Buying our house together actually felt like a much bigger commitment than getting married. It’s a shame to say but you’re absolutely right - just look at how easy is it to get a divorce vs how difficult it is to make that mortgage go away lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:43 PM
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Exactly! There were 8 women who voted for that abortion ban in Texas - but this is men’s fault?!?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:38 PM
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Maybe on Reddit and social media, but that’s hardly what I see IRL. There has been immense progress for women in the west over the past 40 years, and there’s overwhelming support for feminism. Look at how everyone reacted to the Texas abortion ban - almost completely lambasted and decried by the rest of the US. Now online you have incels and MGTOWs, so yes, those men aren’t going to listen, but they are the minority of men, and unfortunately the most outspoken, just like radfems are to feminism.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:30 PM
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Except men don’t ignore what women say - there’s been an immense amount of progress in gender equality for the west over the past 40 years. There might be regressive acts like Texas’s abortion ban, but the overwhelming support from the public is towards feminism. There is progress made and plenty of men who support feminism, and we’re still called trash and get lumped in with rapists and abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:26 PM
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Feminists are always telling men how awful women have it and expect us to listen. Men may not face the same issues as women, but if feminists are actually fighting for gender equality, then that means making a voice for all genders and not dismissing men’s issues when we bring them up. We’re victims of violence, abuse and harassment too, and sometimes it’s women who are the perpetrators, even if statistically the inverse is more common. So at the very least it brings awareness. If feminists want…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:07 PM
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Uh she said LTR. Not marriage. A man has to be willing to marry and to provide for his income to even matter in the relationship. That's not most men, and not most boyfriends. Here’s where we disagree - you’re contradicting yourself by saying a man doesn’t matter in a reaction ship unless he’s going to commit financially, but then you’re also saying that paying living expenses is the bare minimum to expect. If it is also your expectation that you won’t live with a boyfriend, when said boyfriend …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:03 PM
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It's more like a bare minimum thing. Of course a person who lives with you should be lightening the financial load at least a bit. Even a roommate would do that. Not really sure what you’re on about - a roommate doesn’t owe you anything beyond paying their share of the rent and utilities or whatever is contracted between you two - they are free to live their own lives and have no responsibility to take care of you. If anything, a partner offers love and affection first, then you eventually cohab…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 05:44 PM
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An LTR can be very rewarding it just depends what you are looking to get out of it and how much work and effort you are willing to put in. Exactly! People aren’t marrying out of necessity anymore. OP really just seems salty about relationships, even other women making great cases for LTRs are so quickly dismissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:40 PM
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Well, I'm from the deep south. I'd never live with a boyfriend, didn't live with my husband when he was a fiance either. Enough women down here don't do that. This is cultural to your region and also your personal preferences - where I live it’s very common for unmarried couples to cohabitate and split Bill’s, as is the case in many major cities. If you don’t prefer to live with your partner before marriage, that’s your choice. Also, isn't that more like benefitting from a roommate than it is ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:35 PM
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Q4OP: what would it take to convince you that women would benefit from being in an LTR with a man? What do other types of relationships (poly, queer, etc) offer to women that men cannot?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:42 PM
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The only thing a woman gets is possibly resources and social status. Really? For women in healthy relationships, they get protection, love, compassion, emotional support. You’re thinking is very reductive. But as you can see as women make their own money and being a single woman loses it’s stigma less are getting into relationships. Do you really think young attractive men want older women for their money, when those same men have a ton of options, many of whom are women their own age? Because I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:25 PM
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But you’re saying I’m triggered when I literally made this point earlier in the thread lol The problem most men have is when women have high paying careers but also expect high earning men to date them simply because they’re in the same financial bracket - wealthy men have way more options than most because of their financial resources, so they aren’t necessarily dating high earning women, they’re picking the women they’re most attracted to. Maybe she makes her own money, but the inverse doesn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:15 PM
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Most men tend to rate women in the 20-23 yr age as those they find most attractive. Why would any man under 35 who is making loads of money date someone older than him when he can find someone younger, hotter and who doesn’t have this constantly adversarial “I am feminist hear me roar” attitude about her just because she has a job and makes her own income? Same thing goes for good looking men who aren’t fabulously wealthy - younger, more attractive women want them, so why would they date someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 04:59 PM
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it sounds like you're saying you had a say in what women want until women didn't need your money. Not at all - I said that the wealthiest men are dating women they are attracted to, and that those men don’t care how much money a woman makes. If women want to date a wealthy man, go right ahead, but don’t think that because you have a degree and high paying career that those men will automatically want you. You could always choose to be richer than women and hope that gives you a say in what they …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 09:57 AM
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Exactly, it’s superficial in either case and they belong together. But young attractive men aren’t going after rich older women, because young women also want the young hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 03:55 AM
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Lol not really, I’m just pointing out that men aren’t attracted to how much money a woman makes. And women have financial independence but often expect to be in a relationship with someone who earns significantly more, but high earning men tend to date very physically attractive women and again, don’t care about how much money women make because those men already have money of their own. There are also plenty of people who don’t earn within the top 25% of incomes and still manage to have relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 03:52 AM
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Just as many women are tripping too - y’all have warped ass expectations. You finally got jobs and careers to the point that you’re out earning men and thus don’t need no man to depend on, and yet now you want to be Mary Housewife and expect someone who out earns you to sweep you off your feet and take care of all the bills for the rest of your life and treat you like queen because you had it so hard in life. Nothing wrong with someone dating someone who earns a similar income, it’s when you bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 11:13 PM
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Men don’t even complain about you having careers, we complain when you have your own money and still expect us to pay for everything (“his money is our money but my money is my money”), or, when you make a good income but expect to date someone who earns vastly more than you - like someone in the top 5% of incomes. Men who make that much money are dating the most beautiful women they possibly can, especially if they’re young. Again, just because you have a career don’t expect a) men to fall all …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 11:06 PM
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Yes this is true, if you’re the type of man that wants to provide you have to have the resources in the first place. But this has 0 to do with OP’s very wrong assumption that men don’t want women to work or have careers. I’d say more men complain that women now have careers and income of their own but also still expect to be taken care of by their partner, and to date someone who earns significantly more than they do. In reality, if you earn $100,000 or more in the US, you are part of the top 8.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 10:57 PM
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what is the point of dating an income matched man if we are young and beautiful. Because many women such as yourself severely overestimate how attractive you really are, and your income is not what is appealing to affluent men - they already have more money than you, so they are going to date the most beautiful women they possibly can. You may be attractive and even above average, but wealthy people are in a completely different social circles and rich men date socialites for this exact reason. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:19 PM
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This is what he’s saying though…we don’t care if you work lol Everyone needs income. Just don’t expect a) men to fall all over themselves because you got a degree and a job nor should you expect b) some rich Chad will see how hard you worked and come sweep you off your feet to pay all your bills for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:07 PM
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The issue isn’t that we don’t want women to work, it’s that women who have careers think that their careers now make them entitled to being with a hot guy who is in the top 10% of earned income. You essentially need to be a woman who is in the top 10% appearance-wise to be with a high earning man who can ensure you never have to worry about any major bills again, and those men don’t care about your career. Men who earn this much and want a traditional wife who will stay home and raise their chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:02 PM
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The one that actually makes my blood boil is the “1 in 3 college men would commit rape if they could get away with it” - with a sample size of 73 participants from one university in North Carolina with loaded and leading questions and we’re supposed to believe that this speaks for the more than 100 million men in the US, or the more than 3 billion men worldwide? I do think women experience rape and sexual harassment, but I hate how feminists always completely discount it when men talk about expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 02:26 PM
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Feminism is full of hypocrisy - let’s focus on how only 30% of rapes are reported but any instances of sexual harassment towards men or if we are made to penetrate it’s always “an outlier”, let’s make jokes about men but cry when anyone makes jokes about us, don’t body shame me but I’ll make fun of your penis size, “men need to deal with their own issues and stop relying on women as emotional crutches” but men better offer unwavering support to women because we’re all oppressors and abusers - th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 01:26 PM
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Okay and would you just say “God hates you” to a woman in that situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 10:44 PM
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male pattern balding means God hates you. Not even genes are that cruel. So you’d say the same about women who are balding or experiencing any sort of bodily change that is both out of their control and decreasing their attractiveness? Your entire response reads as a joke over something people can’t control, and you’re completely wrong anyway because genetics absolutely have a key role in baldness for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 07:57 PM
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“If you are happy for the death or suffering of anyone, you're a bad person, be it on a large scale or a very personal level. You likely think or act like that doesn't apply to you - it does.” - u/Mimoxs. I have a full head of hair too, you’re just a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 11:57 AM
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Yes and a mental health professional can actually prescribe that you go see a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:24 AM
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Then by your logic, a woman’s love for a man is also conditional to whether or not he is providing for her
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 06:12 PM
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If you’re a feminist you absolutely expect results in terms of a “functional gender equilibrium” as is meant to be discussed in this post. stop trying to ant farm everything, leave everyone alone and just let things play out. Doing this did NOT produce the “results” most people (particularly feminists) want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 03:49 PM
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Lol seriously I wish they’d just have one huge hate-orgy and literally fuck each other to death
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 04:06 AM
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Feminists complain about 2 things (mainly) - safety and reproductive rights. Better protocol and clear, consistent consequences for sexual assault/rape/made to penetration REGARDLESS of gender; make abortion legal with adequate access to safe procedures with clear guidelines and restrictions (for example, late term abortions where the fetus can survive outside the womb can only be performed when birth would result in fatal harm to either/both mother and baby) and make paper abortions legal too (…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:50 PM
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This is a pretty weasel response for “I expect results but don’t want to put in any work” - anyone can weigh the pros and cons of a situation and make choices that have the best possible outcome for largest group of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:36 PM
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It’s purely to shame these women for even wanting a partner that is not also a single parent as well. I mean I get it, I don’t want kids either and won’t date anyone who has them but I’m not going on diatribes about it. Just don’t date them! lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 02:10 PM
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“Absolutely not! If I’m your man, the kid eats and sleeps outside unless it’s with it’s bio dad!”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 02:07 PM
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I think her height requirements and saying she’s a sub brat says more about her Exactly! It’s not like OP and guys like him are gonna swipe right anyway once they see she has a child anyway, why do they even bother ranting about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 02:06 PM
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Wow it’s almost as if someone minimizing the struggles women face was offensive to you….Interesting. https://www.nsvrc.org https://www.statista.com/statistics/191137/reported-forcible-rape-cases-in-the-usa-since-1990/ https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system Over 80% of sexual assaults are committed by an acquaintance, so once you consider that most women are raped by men who they know rather than some boogeyman in the alleyway, you’ll realize that most men don’t commit rape. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:17 PM
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Right but the number of men who commit rape is also an outlier since less than 10% of men will attempt or commit rape in their lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 06:33 PM
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You literally said “men always act in an unreasonable manner” so I called you out on it - I’m sure you’re sick of the crazy woman tropes and are quick to call men out for any generalizations about women, but you seem awfully butthurt when someone points out that you did the same thing. I don’t think you realize that I support probably 95% of what feminists are fighting for, just like…can you not make sweeping generalizations about men? We know you wouldn’t like the same done to women (rightfully…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 02:35 PM
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I can acknowledge that women still struggle in some ways while also calling you out for making sweeping generalizations about one gender when that’s exactly the thing feminazis such as yourself claim to be fighting. So you’re a hypocrite since you’ll generalize about all men and say “men never act in a reasonable manner.” We both know you wouldn’t be okay with the inverse being done to you, and this has nothing to do with power and privilege, it’s a lack of decency on your part. An eye for an ey…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 02:33 PM
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Exactly, and I don’t think she realizes that I support probably 95% of what feminists are fighting for, just like…can you not make sweeping generalizations about men? We know she wouldn’t like the same done to women (rightfully so), and it doesn’t teach men a lesson, it just supports the narrative that feminists are man-haters. And she was telling me “men need to be the bigger person” lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:35 PM
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You can fight for equal rights without attacking the other gender as a whole THANK YOU!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 11:23 AM
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You're kind of disregarding my whole argument to continue to stroke your ego and dump your personal issues, instead of actually address my points- which seems like you did, but you actually didn't. Lol what? You’re just assuming I know nothing about patriarchy theory, history or power dynamics, in which case you’re wrong. Seems like your ego got more bruised in this exchange. Don't send unwavering support to women- but maybe if you hear or see a guy harassing some chick he can easily overpower, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 10:45 AM
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When I say "men always act in an unreasonable manner"- I should have rephrased that to sound less general and vague. This is why more men don’t identify as feminists, because y’all will insist that “feminism isn’t a monolith” and “women aren’t a hive mind” but then you turn around and paint men in broad strokes. “Men are trash”,“Kill all men” and the like. We're finally in a time in our "civil society" where women have pretty much the same rights as men, so it's easier to have this broad convers…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 08:36 PM
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