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54% of marriages end in divorce. That number is even higher for just relationships. 99% of the time the woman is ending it. Women can’t be satiated because men come too easy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:33 PM
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This is men’s fault though. Fundamentally, women will value men more when men become harder to obtain. Women will value good men more when men start holding women accountable for the consequences of choosing bad men. Today, there is a simp lurking around every corner waiting to wife-up and provide for a woman who is an all-out fuck-up and/or who would’ve never dated him if her life wasn’t in shambles. You don’t think that’s the problem? Things are only as valuable as they are rare, and men are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:56 AM
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Majority of women are orgasm-less because women don’t communicate as you’ve previously stated lol…and tbh, women don’t really put much effort into dating in general. Women’s idea is that everything should come to them and if it doesn’t, then it wasn’t meant to. That’s a mentality that is a roadmap to disappointment. You wait for men to approach you, never going after the guy you want. You wait for him to court you. You wait for him to make things official. You wait for him to initiate sex. You j…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:48 AM
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I’m guilty of that. But it’s usually because I was going down on her, she wasn’t giving me any feedback and it isn’t like I can see her face, so I just stopped. I’d actually be down to just please a woman. Meaning, I don’t have to do penetration as I don’t even like penetration, I’d rather masturbate. But like I said, women just don’t communicate. You may think I’m lying but they just expect you to know. So much of dating women in general is “if he doesn’t have it all, he isn’t the one”. There i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 04:52 AM
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You have some wild misconceptions regarding men. Other than that, tired was decent advice. I’m not a virgin btw, I just don’t really enjoy sex with women. Juice just isn’t with the squeeze. I actually want a relationship without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 04:45 AM
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How hard is it? “Right here - lick it. Right there - don’t touch it.” Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 04:40 AM
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It’s not that simple. Women by and large don’t like communicating. They feel that with the right guy they don’t have to communicate. Women view sex like a Safari. The perfect Safari guide essentially guides YOU through the experience. They don’t ask questions, they know everything, they know what you’ll like and won’t like, etc. That’s what women expect from men. Ask around if you don’t believe me. This is actually why a lot of men say they like virgins. Because virgins are less judgmental and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:32 AM
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You’d be surprised at the amount of women who aren’t willing to wait until a guy learns, teach, or even communicate with him. Tbh, I think women view a man’s sexual experience as a vetting attribute. Like, the men who are good are supposed to be good, and the man who aren’t, aren’t. Let your first time with a woman be trash, I don’t care how willing you are, and that will likely be your last unless you two are in the highschool dating phase and neither of you are experienced enough to know bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:28 AM
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You just said women’s orgasm is an enigma, yet you’re seriously wondering why men struggle with it…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:07 AM
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A study of homosexual and heterosexual married couples was conducted and it determined of all possible pairings, women homosexual couples had significantly higher rates of divorce than every other pairing. Also, women are significantly higher in trait neuroticism than men - trait neuroticism literally being propensity to experience negative emotion and frequent changes in emotion predominated by negative emotion. And lastly, compromise is needed in relationships and your comment is literally a t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:23 PM
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Lol. Let’s just hope she shows up.
/r/seduction29/09/22 11:33 PM
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Honestly bud, I’ve figured this out the hard way. You just have to do it. It’s kinda like getting a shot when you’re a kid. You can prepare as much as you want. You can do all the pep talk. You can watch a million videos of other kids getting shots. You can do whatever. But the pain is the pain, and you have to confront it because the needle has to go in and there’s no way around that. There are no shortcuts. There are no roundabouts. I know talking to women sucks because the guy has to initiate…
/r/seduction27/09/22 04:58 AM
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I think you’re just mad that you’re ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 01:44 PM
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Precisely, and have tons of examples. There’s the popular kid in every highschool and college who isn’t good looking at all but dates the hotties. Every “car group” of friends…you know, the weed smoking scrawny, guys with the gaged ears, tattoos, and snapbacks who customize their Subaru BRZ’s, Nissan GTR’s, and Volkswagen Golf’, and race sown busy as avenues on Friday nights…everyone knows that there’s an average dude who leads that group with a sexy ass girlfriend. As a matter of fact, I typica…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 01:39 PM
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Cooking = Misogynistic Cleaning = Misogynistic Loyalty = Loyal to the best option ay the moment Children = Abort them Family = Broken predominately by women considering who initiates divorce And no, men don’t significantly overrate their smv. Studies find that men tend to understate their smv actually, and women tend to overstate it. And yes, short, broke, and fat men can go out and get a chick significantly below their smv, but if you’re a guy with standards, any chick above a 3 thinks she dese…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:44 AM
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No, RP’s frustration typically comes from nothing, and I do mean nothing, being good enough for modern women. I think something like 3.5x more men are sexless, and even more are single, than in years past. That is kinda proving RP right. Even really good looking guys, and guys with money, are struggling getting women because modern women truly believe they deserve the entire package “looks, money, and status” or they are “settling”…which comes at a time where women offer the least to relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 10:59 PM
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Society creates the incels or complains about. You think pitting men against each other to compete for the most immodest, unfaithful, least-wifely, group of women devoid of the Quality Control that is, scrutiny and shame, is going to produce guys with healthy outlooks on dating? Do you really think that in a day and age where women will choose, by and large, felons, over guys who treat them nice and with respect, that we’re going to churn-out a bunch of nice, respectable guys? Or do you think wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 08:20 PM
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I agree. I hear women say they “struggle” but it’s funny because they’re essentially complaining they don’t like what’s being served, when guys are complaining that they aren’t being served at all or that there’s nothing edible. If you listen to women, and I’ve listened to a bunch, the common denominator in all of their dating problems is abundance. Even the things they dismiss guys for, the hottest of guys wouldn’t even think of dismissing a woman for because the abundance isn’t there. Pickines…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 07:32 PM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 01:17 PM
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You’ve oversimplified things because you don’t truly under the issue you’re talking about. RED PILL is merely WOMEN’S game run on THEM. No one is saying average people don’t END UP with each other. Here’s how things work… In dating, ‘choice’ significantly favors women…and you can’t argue that abundance of choice doesn’t breed pickiness. Call this an assumption, but the stats show different. Women initiate 88% of breakups. If you didn’t have an abundance of choices in food, you wouldn’t throw mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 08:19 AM
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She doesn’t like him. Trust me. When women like a guy, they typically show him. It’s guys who are typically shy. Women learn pretty fast that they don’t really get rejected. She doesn’t like him. He’s new to the group and she’s uncomfortable with that. He likes her, which is the only reason he noticed, so he’s probably being awkward around her which he reads as normalcy, and she is weirded-out by.
/r/seduction10/04/22 06:57 AM
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That’d be the case if the social circle weren’t new. If after knowing him, she continued to act shy, then yes, she probably likes him. Considering the social circle is new, she’s likely more comfortable with the others than she is with him, she probably doesn’t like him but doesn’t want to be rude.
/r/seduction09/04/22 08:56 PM
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She likes your friends, not you.
/r/seduction09/04/22 08:20 AM
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Dating doesn’t work because women want the best and men just want someone. Unfortunately when you have a seesaw partner who thinks thinks they belong on the other playground, neither you nor them gets to ride the seesaw unless you convince them the cool kids don’t want you. At which point they’ll probably just refuse to play with you because they’re mad they can’t play with who they want rather than who they’re qualified to play with. Notice though, dating worked when men didn’t let women play. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:52 AM
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Honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:23 AM
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Your study is about life in general; the subject we’re discussing is about dating - two very different subjects. And the study showing that women are far more likely to end relationships than men would prove women are in fact not more satisfied with relationships than men. https://relationshipsinamerica.com/marriage-and-divorce/who-thinks-of-leaving-their-marriage-more-men-or-women Brinig, Margaret and Allen, Douglas. "’These Boots are Made for Walking’: Why Most Divorce Filers are Women.” Ameri…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 08:11 PM
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I’m not arguing with you anymore. We haven’t gotten anywhere in the last 8 exchanges.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 01:30 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/high-octane-women/201109/meet-the-least-happy-people-in-america?amp As for women cheating for certain kinds of guys, my experiences and the experiences of other men. In the feminist universities we have today you’ll never get a study convicting women of anything unpleasant, but if you read older evo psych and evo physiology publishings you can piece together that women 1. Are significantly more neurotic than men (which is associated with cheating) and 2. C…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 01:29 PM
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O.M.G We are talking about the actions of promiscuous cheaters and the likelihood of their promiscuity to render them dissatisfied with their relationship. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VICTIMS OF INFIDELITY. You’re ASSUMING the victim finds out…NOWHERE in OP’s post did they mention the partner finding out. This was a study showing the property for high n count individuals to report dissatisfaction in relationships. This nothing to so with their significant others. The original post is “Womens…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 12:46 AM
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Because, again, relating to the piece OP cited, we’re talking about the unilaterally-imposed threats high n count individuals pose to their relationships as a result of their high n count. I haven’t spoken about how the victim of cheating felt, be they female OR MALE, because it’s irrelevant. We’re talking about high n count individuals not being able to derive satisfaction from the relationships due to their high n count, and thus cheating. The fact is though that although high n count men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:48 AM
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I don’t know if you’re a woman or not but you’re seeing things from a woman’s perspective and you’re projecting that perspective onto men. See, women only screw men they would potentially be with. Meaning if you’re screwing a man, you like that guy as more than a sex partner, which means you respect him and over time will come to love him. Men don’t think like that AT ALL. Sex is about as indicative of our respect or love for a woman as you drinking a cup of juice is indicative of your respect a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 06:50 AM
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Put it like this. Let “physical health” represent “relationship health”. Say I want to keep my kids out of the cookie jar for health reasons. My daughter doesn’t have allergic reactions to eating cookies but my son does, representing men’s ability to not let cheating affect their relationship, unlike women. On the other hand, my son it taller than my daughter so it’s easier for him to reach the cookies than it is for her to, representing the difference in ease of cheating for men and women. Let …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 08:29 PM
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If it’s harder for you to cheat, the likelihood that you’ll do it is lower. The effort put into cheating means nothing. Cheating os cheating. Plus, my second point was highlighting that a man’s cheating isn’t as much of a threat to the relationship as a woman’s. A man can cheat and grow even more in love with his wife. When a woman cheats, start counting down the days.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:58 PM
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And new cars can have more problems than old ones…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:51 PM
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I actually did everything for her. The quickest way to fuck up a relationship with a woman is to be a great guy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:47 PM
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It’s cute how if he didn’t offer those sources you would’ve told him he was come crackpot making unfounded claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:12 AM
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In other words, she’s the object of criticism in the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:10 AM
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Too real for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:02 PM
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Honestly, the obsession with “levels” is why most women will die alone and unhappy. Imagine my relationship with my family if they all had to be “above my level” lol. Even if they were or weren’t, the simple fact that I think of them as some type of opposing pawn in some social chess game dooms me to never have anything meaningful with them. What’s even more cringey is the guys who “qualify” thinking they’ve beat out all the other men… It’s funny how they can’t put two and two together. If A. sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:06 AM
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I would partially agree with this. The internet guys tend to think everything with women is looks, because to men, everything is looks. This is something the sexes tend to do - project. Because men want looks, they think that looks is why they can’t get the partner they want. And because women want successful men they think that them not being successful enough is why they can’t get the partner they want. When in reality it’s flipped. Typically men can’t get the hottie they want because they’re …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 09:56 AM
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It’s worse for women because.. (And I will die on this hill) If we consider who is really the “prize” in the relationship, it’s men, and this is owed to the choosiness of women. Like, you can’t hold that hypergamy is real but that men aren’t the prize as a result. So if she gets that great guy, he’s typically in-demand and doesn’t want a woman that’s ran through. There’s something viscerally disgusting about treating the cum-dump of a slew of men seriously, and that’s certainly no endeavor for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 09:43 AM
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Most men care, but they lack the abundance of options to act on that care and not deal with the woman. My thing is this, relationships with high n-count women are all but statistically guaranteed to fail…so I always pose the question to guys, “I know you can’t say “no” to her now, but if you knew this was going to end rather soon, would you still get involved so that the pain is worse when it does, or would you sever ties before you build them?” Given the nature that MOST men are simps, this has…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 09:27 AM
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It isn’t. You married a woman, and you said all you wanted was love. You could’ve gotten that without marriage. You could’ve gotten that with a man. So it seems the only retarded thing here is the reasoning behind your actions. If I said I wanted to look at a horse and I went and became an indentured servant on a farm in Bulgaria just because it had horses, you’d question why I did all of that when a mere visual is what I was looking for. So I question you similarly. If what you said you wanted …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:03 PM
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Why didn’t you marry a man if that’s all you wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:07 PM
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Precisely. As much as I wanted a gf, when I got one, a smoking hot one, then moved her in with me…I wanted her tf away from me 95% of the time. She got laid off during covid and it was hell. She wasn’t even nagging, just her sad, mooing, glass-half-empty ass was always around me killing my vibe, taking out her frustration on our relationship, etc. and when I asked her what was wrong she NEVER talked about it. I didn’t even want to fuck her anymore which was actually why we broke up because she w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 07:54 PM
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I wish I were
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 07:31 PM
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I think the reality is that women are told by other women that a man doesn’t like you, or isn’t a real man, if he doesn’t initiate (if by initiate you mean approach, and typically cold approach). This is false, but what women do and what I’ve seen them do, is try to be visible, which I don’t take as any gesture lending themselves to approach any more than just going about whatever the fuck they’re doing. Women “setting up” and “prompting” men to approach used to look like a woman dropping a hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 01:45 AM
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Nah, I just think the juice ain’t worth the squeeze when it comes to women. Basically, I see men who are in relationships as that boss’s pet who stayed around after the company cut pay, increased responsibilities, and zapped vacation time, only to shit on the self-esteem-having mofos who quit and call them “lazy and entitled”. It’s like THOSE DUDES, are the reason we can’t have anything nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 09:13 PM
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I also think there’s this idea that “incels” or mgtow are these dudes with low self-esteem. I think many of them are just dudes who are real, like 100% real. I’m a very attractive, tall guy, but if I’m going to be real, women just seem like deadweight to me, all for the sake of maintaining said deadweight. Idk. Like, become the best version of myself, pursue a woman ruthlessly, be her best option, so that you can pay her bills, protect her, please her, and hopefully not get replaced. Like, I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 09:00 PM
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This is false. 95% of the time men initiate. What people here actually love to do is give middle-of-the-road answers that are pretty much the answer to everything in life and require no debate or thought about anything. The intellectual laziness of the answers you all give, if applied to the sciences would cease all inquisition and conclude with “well the truth is, sometimes some things are just some ways and other times they’re other ways”. Sorry, but you all’s takes go up my spine. What was th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 08:47 PM
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Yes. The evidence is out there, linking a higher body count to, essentially, higher likelihood of relationship failure. The quality of adults is typically and largely determined by the quality of their upbringing (with humans being products of their environments) which is intrinsically linked to familial intactness. But all conjecture right? No. There’s evidence supporting all of this compounded with the fact that every predicted and usual problem associated with poorly reared children is manife…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:52 PM
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No, men and women create the next generation of children. Reproduction isn’t a contribution to men, it’s a necessary contribution to the species that literally every living organism does yet women expect a praise for it. If anything you all sit back until a man initiates the procreation process. Most women do work, you’re right… but it doesn’t really help men or women out. In fact it helps no one. First of all, men don’t care about your money because we’re not seeing any of it spent on us anyway…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:56 PM
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Toodles
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 10:05 PM
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Men are the brains aboard the boat…women kinda just look cute and find shit to complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 08:54 PM
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If you’re a guy, just say you like golf, tennis, or horse racing…rich people tend to do them so women will think you have money and like you. Anything that rich people tend to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 08:43 PM
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That’s not what you said. But whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 08:35 PM
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Right, but an alcoholic can feel love for Absinthe, that doesn’t mean he derives a tangible benefit from his relationship with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 01:27 PM
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“Statistically guarantee the most”. And I explained why men keep choosing marriage in the original post. It’s a rite of passage into manhood, not meant to be questioned, just meant to be done. And to assume people only do things that ACTUALLY benefit them is so naive. Most women date bad boys…we can unanimously say that doesn’t benefit them. Then there’s drug addicts, people who major in worthless degrees, people who self-harm, drunkards/alcoholics…men who marry…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 01:25 PM
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When someone says they don’t need a father for their child because they make enough money… what else am I to think but that they aren’t concerned with the needs of that child, and that the child’s existence is serving them, not the child… Part of the reason I won’t have kids is because although I don’t see the utility in women whatsoever, especially considering the measure of a man’s attractiveness to a woman is, by women’s own standard, the degree to which she is useless to him…I would never go…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 07:11 AM
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So if you were going skydiving and the instructor/guide told you there’s a 50% chance your parachute won’t open, are you going? Lol. Thank you. I’m saying there is nothing a man gains through marriage. A man getting married is like you contacting the Vatican to inform them your dog is yours…it’s like, for what? Even that would make more sense because while there’s no particular upside, there’s no downside to doing so either. Whereas with marriage, for men, there’s no upside and a shit ton of hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 12:12 AM
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Yeah but your comment highlighted your belief that the only importance a man has to a child is monetary… and if you don’t think this, then you’re highlighting your willingness to take on a child and deprive them off a father, at which point it’d only be axiomatic that you’d want a child for selfish reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 12:09 AM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 11:20 PM
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That’s empirically false. The thing marriage statistically guarantees the most is divorce. As a matter of fact, divorce is the single most bankrupter of men past a certain age. Not credit cards, not auto loans, not bad investments, not overspending, not student loans, not even child support, but marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 11:18 PM
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So “fluff”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 11:14 PM
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Who said being alpha was the goal? He just stated a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 11:14 PM
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I can see why a man would want to marry a man, just not a woman though. Outside of being sexually attracted to women, which doesn’t constitute marriage, I can’t understand why any thinking man would marry a woman. Particularly with how neurotic and just feverishly fickle women are. How do you build anything with a person always looking at what they don’t have?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 11:13 PM
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It’s crazy that you’re taking the side of my opposition yet proving my point…by saying you can afford a child and that you don’t need a man, you are admitting that the only reason to have a man is monetary.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 11:09 PM
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Because sex is mutual. When a man gives a woman money, that’s not mutually beneficial, it’s tangible AND sacrificial. And sex isn’t something gained via marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 03:40 PM
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Show you the data that women are more inclined to pick better providers? Lol. Lady, go do something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 03:35 PM
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The want is typical. The ability to get that guy is what’s atypical. Thus the settling and statistically likely divorce later.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 02:39 PM
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So we’re going to play dumb, as though women aren’t hypergamous? Question. Do women typically want a $50k/year guy or a millionaire? Be honest. (I’m going somewhere with this but since you want to obfuscate I’ll hold your hand through it).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:57 PM
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I know what words mean, I just had to use a more emphatic word because you apparently didn’t know what tangible means….seeing as you asked what it meant. Tangible means it can be felt. Women offer very little that can be felt. Men’s money can be felt? Tangible things tend to be finite, and so giving them up is inherently sacrificial…. Understand how that works? If I have food and I give it to you, I’m never getting that food back… You don’t part with your niceness when you give it, do you? How i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:52 PM
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Bingo! At what pisses me off is that men DON’T get that. They don’t get anything close to that. They get some entitled chick with a list of demands who thinks that what she “brings to the table” is in even the slightest of ways on-par with what the man brings. And it’s not, it’s just not. At all. And the fact that I haven’t received one adequate answer to my question that doesn’t consist of the “fluff” I said it would, proves my point. Wanna get married as a man? Have bank, be tall, handsome, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:54 AM
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Tangible has nothing to do with sex. I don’t consider sex an offering to men, because 1. It’s mutual, and 2. It requires greater effort from the man than it does the woman. Lastly, sex is mostly had outside of marriage so it can’t be a benefit of marriage. Tangible means sacrificial, at least the way I’m using it. When something is tangible, it’s typically finite. Women’s offering to men is sex, a kid, cooking & cleaning (although that’s being phased out by feminism). First of all, all those off…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:53 AM
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Why do you all do this? I don’t care what the exceptions among women do. I care what MOST women do. Without fail the default response is always “well not every single fucking person in the history of histories does this”. No shit. You know what, I just figured every single woman from the first nut Adam ever busted to the ass-end of this very second, was the exact same carbon copy. I had no idea whatsoever women possessed any variance between them… I figured every woman was the same race, height,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:25 AM
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“Emotional labor” is something only a woman would come up with lol. But, are you sure all this is free? Keep in mind hypergamy…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 03:32 PM
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Most women wouldn’t consider a prenuptial agreement…which kind of proves my point about the woman’s objective in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 03:30 PM
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Yeah but their money typically increases. What, tangible, good thing, about a woman increases with time? There’s been a push to try and convince men that their value decreases with age but the simple fact that some of the hottest women are routinely willing and apt to marry older men says otherwise. Fuck what’s said, look at what’s done.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 03:29 PM
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I’ve heard that too but I’m not really a corporate big-wig kinda’ person, and most men aren’t. It’s arguable that men only need to be at the top of a corporation because they have to support the weight of a woman lol. A $50k/year job will suffice for most single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:55 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:53 PM
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Explain
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:52 PM
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Relationships in which women pay for everything are as guaranteed to fail as it is for the next minute to pass. Men typically use money to get sex. Women typically use sex to get money. This means money is merely a means to an end for men, and money IS the end for women. This is why a woman typically rationalizes a man’s importance to her on the basis of his income, relative to her’s, and why men rationalize a woman’s importance on the basis of his sexual value to her. I speak in generalities be…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:51 PM
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And have you read the stats that those marriages are more likely than traditional marriages to fail? Basically, the smaller the gap in income between the man and woman, favoring the man, the more likely she is to file divorce. I say “she” because 80% of the time women file for divorce citing “irreconcilable differences” but that really means “money”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:41 PM
1

How, when women marry up and men, down?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:39 PM
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That’s assuming an equal financial partnership which science proves women don’t prefer and isn’t the best for maintaining a relationship. But you answered the question probably the best of all the answers I’ve received so far…so I’ll give you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:35 PM
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No, I expect to be encouraging to myself and supporting of myself, as an adult should. That’s not her job. And no, I don’t expect her to contribute financially. Nothing good typically arises out of that but competition and neglected kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:34 PM
-1

So she isn’t compelled biologically to have children? And considering who pays child support in most cases (which doubles as spousal support), who is the child actually benefitting?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:31 PM
-1

So, fluff?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:29 PM
1

Explain
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:29 PM
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I responded to your post with the first word of my last post. I started rambling because it amazes me how you needed to be xy and z for her to marry you, but she basically needed to be nothing but “not a flight risk” for you to leave her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:28 PM
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This wasn’t an indictment of your relationship. Plus, I’ve always noticed women belittle the importance of money when the man makes more, and exaggerate its importance when the woman makes more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:22 PM
1

No, you’re missing the point. What do women sacrifice in getting married? Men’s sacrifice is crystal clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:15 PM
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“Fluff”. But I’ve seen women do this and I’m envious. Women have mastered men. The idea that a woman can offer nothing, a merely weaponize her presence, is astounding to me. It’s wild, because in most cases, the man is the prize. The man is the big earner. The man is the tall, handsome, hunk. The man is the one who’s had to master sex. The man is the one who has had to get the status. Yet the quickly levels the playing field, rending all of those offerings null and void, by merely pulling her pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:11 PM
2

Right, and I’m trying to ascertain the tangible value derived from keeping said woman…that’s what’s eluding me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:03 PM
3

At least you’re honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:02 PM
2

I didn’t need a problem solved, I needed a question answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:02 PM
2

…and the woman doesn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:01 PM
0

Okay, so “fluff”. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:01 PM
3

But the stats would show that a utility is derived from aging men that extends beyond their looks. The same stats don’t prove that to be the case for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:00 PM
1

What does that benefit men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:59 PM
2

But that applies to men as well…kids don’t serve men any good either. Reproduction is a duty men just take on. Only women can monetize that duty though:
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:59 PM
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It’s a higher workload but it isn’t at all commensurate to the increased workload and stress a man must face on the job, now having to support a family. And employers know that married men can’t say “no”. It’s like, I’d rather pour Cheerio’s and stuff an automated washer and drier from the comfort of my home than face a high-end sales quota or unemployment in a struggling economy, with the pressure of a soon-to-be-starving and homeless family on my back and a boss that knows I’m his bitch becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:58 PM
1

Maybe initially, but acclimation and lawful entitlement to that man and his situation breeds inappreciativeness over time. The divorce rates would agree with me. A. The idea that men carry that a woman’s vagina somehow deploys a physical barricade to block out foreign penises upon saying “I do” is always an idea that has perplexed me. She’s just as fair game for another guy as she was before she met you, only difference is you’re now financially on the hook for her getting with said other guy. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:41 PM
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So would you vow loyalty to never fire and always pay an employee that did nothing but merely encourage you and offer you emotional support? Keep in mind, that employee demands a life-long contract, demands you will ay six figures a year, demands you remain the most attractive employer, and demands you offer life insurance. You’d hire them over the 20-year Systems Administrator who actually fulfills the role, because of “encouragement” and “support”? What I’m asking you to do is to view marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:30 PM
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I agree with marriage vows, but see, a man must offer very explicit, very tangible, and very hard-to-achieve things to a woman TO GET TO the point of making those vows. The disconnect is that I don’t think women do the same, in fact, they arrive at the altar more or less by a man feelings obligated by society and familial tradition to do so, rather than for any good, TANGIBLE, reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:25 PM
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I thought that too, but is a family any more stable with married parents than unmarried parents? If so, don’t you think it’s only ostensibly so. Trust me I’ve seen the numbers on kids growing up in single parent households vs two-parent households, but with No Fault Divorce, I struggle to see how “I quit” is any more invalidated by marriage than it would be in a non-matrimonial relationship. If anything, I see the guy who doesn’t get married to have kids as not owing both child support AND spous…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:19 PM
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With all due appreciation for your answer, if I requested an essay example of the “fluffy” stuff I was talking about, this would receive an A+.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:14 PM
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I would consider that “fluffy” stuff. That’s more or less a mutual offering from both sides that cancels itself out because of its mutuality. That’s also something that I’m finding too… whereas men’s offering are sacrificial in nature, women’s are typically by virtue of their mere existence. Money, you can’t get back. Your life taken by a burglar, you can’t get back. Companionship? If a stranger and I are trapped in a room, by virtue of us merely being present together in the same room, we’re co…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:12 PM
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Here’s what I meant. If a guy touts being “encouraging” as what he brings to the table, that’s cute but women will laugh. They’ll laugh because it’s pretty well-known what a guy is supposed to bring to the table. The money pipeline is supposed to flow with no kinks. Protection, even at the cost of his life, is supposed to be supplied with no second thoughts in a trying time. He’s supposed to be a selfless, tireless, hammer in bed. etc.. AND encouraging, supporting, loving, so on and so forth… ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:06 PM
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Yes, but to their detriment. Whole lot of cognitive dissonance in the mind of a woman who is hypergamous but doesn’t want to submit to a man, thinks she’s equal to a man, or hates men. There’s this idea that a rich, tall, buff, brute to men but teddy bear to women, is supposed to approach them and submit himself to her desires whilst being man enough to take control… whole lot of fuck-shit there but I’ll let them sort that out. The quintessence of naïveté.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:15 PM
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Speak for yourself. Being an asshole is just as easy as being nice. I guess it depends on how disagreeable/agreeable you are. Me? I’m a rebel to the core. I’m so disagreeable that I can’t keep friends, and end up readily verbally or physically battling with the crowd in social settings that I fail to keep quiet in, or am in for too long. But I’m not disrespectful per se, I just don’t bend for absolutely anything whatsoever and don’t care about the repercussions…hell I don’t even think about the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 09:30 PM
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Precisely. I “beta’d out” in my last relationship but she didn’t understand that when a man loves a woman, he is naturally softer and more careful with her. It’s like, no I didn’t smack her and fuck her like she was some bitch I hated because I didn’t hate her lol, because well..I loved her and wanted to protect her. But that’s what she wanted, and eventually cheated for, only to leave the next guy 2 months into the relationship for the same exact reason. You’d think she’d learn considering she …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 09:21 PM
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Now you know how men feel lol. Anytime you say anything about the imbalance in dating you get called some jealous incel. Thing is, you’re a woman, and I’m a 6’1, buff, tatted, former model who doesn’t complain about looks, but rather that women complain about getting uncommitted, poor quality men but select men based on attributes that have either nothing to do with their commitment or quality, or specifically make a man a bad choice regarding commitment and quality. It’s like if I said I wanted…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 08:23 AM
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Finally someone who gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 08:08 AM
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You speak assuming I’m aware of context you haven’t provided. Be clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 08:03 AM
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Cult?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 10:40 PM
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Probably the only post on this sub that I’ve seen hit the nail smack on the head. Nailed it. Under hypergamy, a woman desires a man so much greater than her that she is useless to him…and reality will testify to this. It’s not even arguable…this is transpiring, now. It’s like how can I want a hiking partner to carry me up the mountain and need me at the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 01:25 PM
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Okay with it being both laughable and sad as long as it’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 11:56 AM
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I’ll choose the virgin. After 35, and when in a relationship, your testosterone levels drop precipitously and you actually stop wanting sex all that much, if at all. The virgin is the only one that will be able to go the distance with an ltr or marriage, the hoe is going to invariably divorce-rape you to kingdom come - she hasn’t expressed the sexual capacity to commit to one option so why the assumption that she can do so in perpetuity is foolish. Easy, the virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 11:45 AM
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First rule of attracting women, don’t take advice from women on how to do it. Now, want the gal? Be a barbarian who thinks she’s annoying, and she’s all yours. Just, once you get arrested or screw-up your life for doing bad boy barbarian shit, prepare for her to leave you on account of you not having your life together. Meh, the same front you win on is the same front you lose on. The rich guy ain’t the bad boy and the bad boy ain’t the rich guy…and the bad boy rich guy is never as bad or as ric…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 11:30 AM
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Depends. For an LTR? The Virgin. For a fling? The hoe. Why? Virgins are more likely to have more successful LTR’s. Hoes are likely to do what you want in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 08:52 AM
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You’re right, as a man I shouldn’t mention other men, on a debate sub dedicated to discussing men and women…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 12:44 AM
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[Rant] What’s crazy to me is we’re quick to brand porn bad, and quick to say a man if a pos if he watches it, but let a woman engage in promiscuity which has proven negative effects, and the only person we call a pos is the guy judging her and/or the guy that wouldn’t date her on those grounds. The fact of the matter is there is nothing wrong with porn. It’s sex on a screen. Only for the sake of berating men would we say watching people do coke on a computer is worse than doing coke in person. P…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 09:29 PM
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I think hypergamy is the problem with dating. Women constantly looking for a better option. Logically, how could I ever build a castle on one piece of land if I’m constantly looking for better land? The most I’ll ever build is something pathetic. So I think men realize this, and realize it’s not worth investing much because she’ll likely be on to the next guy in no time at all…thus the only thing to get from a woman is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:38 PM
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That’s a deliberate oversimplification where you’re purposely conflating sex and promiscuity. You’re appropriating my approval of sex to dishonestly presume my approval of promiscuity. If a parent tells a kid that Twinkie’s are good, I’m most certain that parent isn’t implying that binging on Twinkie’s is also good.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 12:59 AM
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Why is resisting temptation a good thing? I can show you better than I can tell you… Do whatever you feel tempted to do for the rest of your life and see where that gets you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 10:40 PM
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That’s the difference between you and I. I look for a competent, dedicated, and loving mother to my children, and a supportive, cooperative, loyal, and competent wife when I’m looking for a woman… …you’re looking for a nut-buddy. My last girlfriend was a model, I stopped fucking her 2 weeks into the relationship and only ever gave her sex obligatorily. I couldn’t give a fuck less about sex. I’m a grown ass man, you really think I have time to be laid up all day to tinkering with my dick and some…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 10:37 PM
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It doesn’t matter what a high n count man is to women, it matters what he appears to be to women. Whether you call him some sly manipulator, women still regard him as valuable. For example, if women actually wanted and pursued provision, protection, and the best genes, they’d find a tall, average built, nerd with a symmetrical face and a $250k Senior Systems Administrator job with the government, who is a virgin. Women THINK the safest men are thugs and bad boys, who ironically are the LEAST saf…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 10:30 PM
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You couldn’t be further from the truth. A high n count man means he has the approval if women, and the approval of women, is supposed to mean, good genes and/or money. The nuances of the term “high value man” that encompass all of these intangible values such as character, dignity, and all of that shit are important, but not really. What I mean is, regarding character, most women will take a rich Kodak Black over a broke Ghandi any day, assuming both looked equally like Chris Evans. It really bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 02:14 PM
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That’s wrong. Most guys don’t ask about n count because they don’t have the abundance of women necessary for them to dismiss one based on n count. Just like most men will tolerate a woman cheating because they don’t have the next one lined up and don’t know when ever, if ever, that one will come around. A starving man can say he won’t eat a piece of chicken that’s been on the floor, but if I drop that shit on the floor 9 times out of 10 he’s eating it. The reality is that most men’s reluctant ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 02:05 PM
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Women only care about age insofar as they can exploit the age difference or weaponize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 08:52 AM
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No, I quite ironically you’re missing my point. No one is talking about looks, we’re talking about attracting the wrong kind of men and that has everything to do with character. You’re dichotomizing the issue and assuming I’m comparing an incel to Chad, no, I’m comparing introverted, nice Chad to the extroverted, sociopathic Chad that women vie for, often regretfully. The discussion centered around this sense of fatalism that women have regarding dating, where they believe ONLY the men who appro…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:42 PM
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Extroverts are statistically more likely to cheat…and for reasons that would be obvious to anyone who understands the difference between possibility and probability. Jerry works as a Bank Teller. Jared works as a Bee Farmer. Fact 1: It is possible for both Jerry and Jared to be stung by a bee at work. Fact 2: Jared is significantly more likely(probable) than Jerry to get stung by a bee at work. What’s really at work here isn’t your ignorance of the difference between possibility and probability,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 08:54 PM
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It’s implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 12:44 PM
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It’s implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:34 AM
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I’d appreciate a woman telling me the truth about her body county. My last relationship failed (obviously considering I’m not in it). But I found out her body count was higher than what she told me, and if she would’ve told me the truth from the beginning, I would’ve never pursued anything b/c I knew a relationship with a person possessing that body count would fail. Body count is a measure of temperance, impulse control, dignity. I’m a very peculiar guy. I don’t move how everyone else moves and…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 08:14 AM
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No, in truth about 100% of women are attracted to 1% of men. Typically what happens is only about 60% of those women will only be seen as fuck those by those men, the other 40% will be seen as potential partners, and 1% will end up with the guy. So the other 99% end up settling for a guy they don’t want, or “the most desirable of the undesirables”. You have to remember, men want quantity, women want quality. Quality is relative, meaning they want the best guy OF all the men available. Quantity i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 08:03 AM
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The fact that masculine and asshole are synonymous to you is telling, and the fact that masculine and shy/introverted are antonyms to you is telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:49 AM
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The problem really is this… What men and women look for in each other aren’t as much conservative as they are natural. And so when liberals dispense with these things in the name of not being “conservative”, what you get is people who desire “natural” and traditional masculine and feminine roles but won’t accept them political reasons, and thus end up having failed relationship after failed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:48 AM
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Avg guy: Height: 5’6 - 6’ Weight: 160 - 210lbs Salary: $40k - $80k Looks: 5 - 8
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:40 AM
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2, and none of them can be casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:36 AM
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Wtf else would he need a woman for? To provide for and protect him? Nah, you want a man for that. So as a man, once you have provision and protection taken care of, which is 99.99% of life, wtf else is there to do but fuck something?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:36 AM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:29 AM
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I think what it is is that women become unattracted to the guys who show interest in them. This quote comes to mind “women don’t want to be apart of any club that would have them as a member”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:27 AM
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Then keep dating assholes lol. The problem with women is that they think a great guy is just supposed to fall in their lap. Nothing in life worth having just happens to you, and if it does it’s anomalous. If you want a guy who doesn’t cheat, he’s probably going to be the guy who isn’t out approaching women… If you want a guy who is thoughtful, he’s probably going to be the guy who thinks about how you’re feeling and what you’re doing and determines not to approach you because he doesn’t want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:24 AM
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My take? He had women spend money on him and bounced… That’s what women do to 95% of men. Only difference is the dollar amount was larger and he’s a man… but then again we could consider women marrying men for money and then divorcing them to get his money in perpetuity, a scam as well and those dollar amounts make the thousands mr. swindler got from women look like chump change. I guess what I’m saying is, if it’s okay when women do it it should be okay when men do it..:but we all know that ain…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:06 PM
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Men were designed to like women. Just look like a woman. Natural beauty is the best beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:31 PM
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You’re exactly right, and this among the things I was referencing in my original comment. Women don’t really understand how the world works. There will never be and CAN NEVER BE a society in which 99% of men are the 1% of men. They don’t understand how economies and basic mathematical properties work. Even if we made every man a billionaire tomorrow, a billionaire would be an average man, and women, by nature, would only want the trillionaire. They can’t understand how their “standards” are are …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:22 PM
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Oversimplifying women’s standards won’t get us anywhere. The real issue is that people, and respectively women, never develop past what society expects of them, and being that men are expected to provide and protect them, which is what a parent does for a child, women never develop beyond childhood. The modern woman’s experience on this world is one of entitlement and no accountability, much like a child’s. I don’t actually blame women for that as much as I blame simps and other weak men, who en…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:16 PM
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FDS has no basis in reality. That whole sphere is laden with logical inconsistencies and contradictions. The way they weave in and out if modernity and traditionalism when it serves their convenience… Their fundamental misunderstanding or just downright ignorance of evolutionary physiology and psychology… The fact that they see right and wrong, good and bad, proper and improper, through the lens of what appeases and bolsters their ego and what doesn’t - completely void of introspection and thus …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:33 PM
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Those are miserable women. The problem with modern women is that the very thing that makes them feel protected and provided for is the very thing that makes them feel inferior. They want a man strong enough to make them feel protected but weak enough to make them feel strong. I think that the numbskull women who don’t understand that power is independent of masculinity and femininity will let this paradox destroy their genetic existence. And then only the women who realize femininity is extremel…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:39 PM
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It’s weird. Anyone who says it isn’t is lying. When you were 20, she wasn’t even born. That’s weird, no way to get around that. Nevertheless, it’s legal so do as you will, legality doesn’t entail morality and vice versa. It also has a pretty destabilizing effect on the dating/relationships/family scene but we’re living in a day and age where no one thinks their actions have an effect on society, and also living in the most demoralized society we’ve seen yet…maybe those things have a causal relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:30 PM
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PUA - guys who understand what women want, and give women the illusion of what they want long enough to get sex without commitment TRP - the ideology from which PUA, Black pill, and Mgtow developed. TRP is basic physiology. It’s understanding men and women outside of the falsehoods society teaches about them. All of the other ideologies have taken trp. Mgtow - is basically a lite version of black pill. These are guys who may have casual sexual relations with women but don’t really bother with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:03 PM
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Tons of men who make bank and have no self-esteem. As for looks, so many men’s gym obsession is actually just insecurity with their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 01:00 PM
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Women require too much and offer too little for me to care about their perplexing orgasms. Women complaining about men not making them orgasm sounds to me like a drowning man complaining the rescue boat doesn’t have champagne. You have to be absolutely bereft of introspection to continue stacking demands onto someone that’s doing something for you that you can’t do for yourself… and this is the case because hypergamy is basically an admission that women only deal with men who offer considerably …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 12:56 PM
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Your response was a piss-poor shoot-from-the-hip attempt at salvaging whatever remained of the once-bloated ego I stomped over in my last response. The fact remains women don’t do shit. You all have degrees but we all know degrees mean fuck-all, and the only degrees that really matter, STEM, you lack. You all get BA degrees as a means for some company specializing in diversity marketing strategic analyst gender relations or some dumb vacuous mission, to rake in government incentives on an affirm…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:41 PM
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Honestly, if you date a chick with a social media profile be prepared to be cheated on. The only exception is if you see that she is a disciplined person who has virtually every part of her life together. But if she’s the least bit impulsive (most women are), she has a social media profile, and she’s somewhere above a 3, you WILL get cheated on. I don’t know if you just thought you weee the only one wanting to smash her or…you are the best man she’ll ever come across…but like what makes you thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:21 AM
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If I gave you the hands of God, and told you to create a sole man that most women would be attracted to, I’m willing to bet both you, me, and everyone else could make that man. This alone proves that women have an archetype that they go after. As to why this woman would lie…. I didn’t grow up in the streets. I had a friend that did, and he’s always lie…always. I later figured out that I didn’t understand why he always lied until I lived his life for a few weeks. He lied because the truth made hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 02:26 AM
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You’re doing a lot of mental gymnastics to try and weave this “women don’t benefit men narrative” this is observably and demonstrably false, and easily so. And yes, while a small number of men invent, most of the men in society maintain, produce, and defend, so you’re actually more affected by the contributions of the average men you say don’t matter, than you are these top 10%. It’s average men keeping the streets safe, average men making sure your bandwidth is steady so you can bash them on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 03:13 PM
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I wasn’t talking about the 90/10 rule, you just saw somewhat corresponding numbers and assumed I was. And you’re right, 90% of women aren’t with 10% of men…but that’s not what’s meaningful. What’s meaningful is that you can deduce, based off those numbers, that your girlfriend/wife settled for you if you a top 10 percenter. This means that partially undergirding what is supposed to be e a stable relationship from which to form a stable family and life, is your wife’s desire for another man. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:54 PM
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Such a gross misunderstanding men. The top 90% of women are competing for about the top 10% of men. Meaning the bottom 90% of men are competing for the bottom 10% of women. This means, as average guy has to except a woman that is so unkept and/or homely, and do for her what he would for a woman that’s a 10, simply because even SHE has an abundance of men competing for her. Most average women have an INSANE amount of above average options in men turn down those guys because maybe some C-list acto…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:59 PM
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Women’s words hardly ever mention money, but their actions do. Look at the wallet-size of the men women congregate around and that will tell you everything. Men don’t benefit women? Sweetheart, here’s a challenge. Don’t use, touch, eat, drink, or dwell in anything created, produced, transported, treated, constructed, defended, raised, invented, discovered, or maintained by a man for 72 hours. I hope you have a way of getting to a deserted island that isn’t by plane, car, boat, gas or electric. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:47 PM
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When I hear women say “most men are unqualified” I always question what benefit do men derive from women that justifies so much qualification? As a parent provides for and protects a child, at their own sacrifice, so does a man for a woman. So pardon the spoiled rich kid-vibes I get from women who say a man isn’t “qualified” to carry the weight of their existence - seems reasonable but just a bit pompous lol. It just implies this subtle expectation of men to join the “make women’s lives better” …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:09 AM
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Personal and observed. Started to see a trend so I started asking questions. Found answers, the answers comported with my reality. Explained what I’d seen and experienced. Started predicting the failure or success of other people’s relationships based on what I knew about men and women. Haven’t been wrong yet. My most recent was Jason Momoa and his wife. Predicted their failure a while back. His smv was just way too high for her. That and she is older. He is getting deal after deal from movie pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:00 AM
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😳
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:51 AM
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Papyrus
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:51 AM
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Sure, $8.99 + shipping and handling
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:30 PM
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Bud, don’t ask women questions if you want the truth. Women never really have question themselves to diagnose and fix themselves; men just take them as they are. Whereas the only kind of mam women pay attention to is one whose exceptionalism os born of honest introspection. If you want the truth, ask a man. Women hate men who cry. Think about why a woman gets a man… provision and protection. Now ask yourself, how does crying, a show of vulnerability, lend itself to proving those qualities? Cry w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:24 PM
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Sweetheart, how do you think doctor’s get their anesthetics, their operating tables, their scalpels, their morphine, their x-ray and imaging equipment? How do you think doctors get their vehicles to get to work? Where do doctors get their food? Where did doctors fe the materials to build their houses? Lol. If society is a body, truck drivers are the veins or the blood. As a matter of fact, there’s a popular saying that “trucks are the backbone of society”, not doctors. That’s others coming to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:55 PM
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Rofl! The fact you even asked that means you’re either a. Being extremely disingenuous or b. A dumbass whose mind isn’t worth convincing. There are probably three professions that if stopped today, society would stop with them. Farmers (food) Law Enforcement (order) Truck Drivers (the transportation of literally everything, including number 1) About 99.999% of everything you interact with or even lay eyes on today found its way onto a truck at some point. That exempt .001% being trees and grass …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:16 PM
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I drive a truck mainly, and I have a side business producing corrosive acids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 09:20 AM
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Get a job that actually contributes something to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 09:40 PM
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Idk wtf that means. I don’t speak Peter Panese.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:38 PM
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Who said anything about med college? And if you don’t care about society than you picked the wrong sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:46 PM
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You don’t understand what is necessary to have a healthy society. There’s a saying, hard times create good men, good men create good times, good times create bad men, bad men create bad times, and bad times create good men. You are part of that group that is creating bad times. Your sheer lack of understanding regarding how society works. The fact that you feel no obligation to preserve the good times created by good men, and think that they will be preserved if everyone just does whatever the j…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:05 PM
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This is a quite typical argument from people like you. Cherry-pick the worst of yesteryear as a means to discourage a return to the best parts of yesteryear. Is the inflation of this domestic violence fear that women have that men of the past just came home, got mad their wife made meatloaf, and started swinging. Domestic violence has always been a very fringe minority. And to be honest, women are freer today and domestic violence is still around, so… Obviously slavery is unrelated. Slavery had …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:03 PM
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I am. There’s nothing a man has to gain from women. Quite frankly the only reason men do relationships with women is because in society having a woman is basically a rite of passage into manhood. Why? Idk, there really is no logical reason. So without question, men get in relationships. If you look at what women want from men in order to consider a relationship, a relationship is really about how well a man can withstand the burden a woman is going to put on him. A relationship is inherently sac…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:23 PM
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I'm single by choice, and even if it weren't by choice, singleness for a man is still one hell of a blessing. ​ And it's actually women who cheat more these days but I won't get into that. ​ Which metric would you like me to use to prove that crime is skyrocketing, infrastructure is failing, people are lazier than ever, and morality is declining? This is a result of this "single-mother generation, which is really a result of the insatiable desire that is "hypergamy". Hypergamy, throughout human …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:04 PM
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It isn't though. Abraham Lincoln violated the rights of the South. It was the South's right to have slaves; but, agrarian-slavery was inferior to Capitalism. Capitalism allowed the US to expand in the global economic marketplace and flourish as a result. You see what I'm saying? It's not always what's the most ideal for an individual, it's what's the best option for the country. And the country was markedly better when women were in in the house. ​ The problem is thinking like yours. Countries a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:57 PM
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Women and men are immensely different. Immensely. Regarding dating, most men approach it from a pauper’s lot in life. Most women approach it from a princess’s lot in life. Two VASTLY different positions. Reproduction and survival are practically guaranteed for women, for most men a constant state of precariousness is lived in with regard to both reproduction and survival. I don’t understand how you can think men and women are the same when a guy needs to master something incredibly difficult, fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 03:13 PM
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I used to think so, but I haven’t seen its importance demonstrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:31 PM
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I think men have failed men. Religious text after religious text, cultural lore after cultural lore, have all warned of the perils of giving women power. I’m not “religious”, more spiritual, but with any literary understanding you can see that literally the first lesson in the Bible, Adam and Eve, basically plays out like “Adam is a man. Even is a woman. Adam was supposed to lead. Instead he followed a woman, Eve. Now we all die”. Like, I can’t think of an older, more bold and obvious warning to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 11:11 AM
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No, it’s just an age-old fucking fact. I’m not going to debate readily-accepted truths with you just because I’ve ventured into that dumbass leftist portion of reddit where age-old truths are up for debate just because they don’t fit your political viewpoint. Women are more emotional than men, bud. One need only a cursory glance at male-female social interactions to see women display more emotion than men. “The purpose of the present study was to address this gap in the literature. Using functio…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:33 AM
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Women are the more neurotic sex. How many studies would you like for me to cite?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:10 PM
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No, if you’re a guy you absolutely want a woman to worship you. When you’re dealing with a woman, you’re dealing with someone who lacks impulse control - they’re emotional. So it’s important that her impulses be as focused around you as possible. Men on the other hand can stay in relationships on principle alone, regardless of what they feel. So it’s less important that a man be obsessed with a woman. Although the reality is that men become more obsessed with their partners than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:14 AM
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If Todd has 4 apples, and he eats 1….
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:09 AM
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Then don’t date because it’s going to fail if she doesn’t like you enough to worship you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:04 AM
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It’s far less than 80%. Women actually want about 1% of guys, they settle for the rest. Not really, because in reality men inherently offer more than women, but in women’s minds, they all deserve Chris Hemsworth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:53 PM
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Because we debate things here. Maybe you just make general statements and don’t support any of it but that’s no way to do the literal last word of the title of the subreddit. Stigma absolutely doesn’t stay forever. Pop culture is merely what was once stigmatized. In essence, pop culture is but the deterioration of the morality of society. Don’t believe me, look at where society started and where it is now. It doesn’t. Look at athletes, music stars, actors, they’re getting with IG models…IG model…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:10 AM
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It’s impractical that an employer would put that much money into uncovering something as tangentially unimportant as possible porn involvement. Maybe law firms, banks, schools, highly visible and prestigious state/federal offices, etc. might put the money and effort into uncovering such history, but most people, let alone women, never achieve nor even desire to achieve the heights associated with these positions. And once saturation takes place, meaning perhaps sex work becomes so common as to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:45 AM
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That’s the problem, no one wants to marry or hire these women but 1. No one typically finds out that these women are who they are. 2. Even if they did find out, a lot of men are only principled when the sky is blue, the sun is shining, and they know there’s not a chance in hell they’re getting laid today just like every other day. The MOMENT one of these chicks gives one of these guys the slightest hope that they have a shot, all that “principledness” out the window. The only men who exercise an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 01:35 PM
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There’s a lot of men on here who don’t know shit about women and will say they want a woman who earns. They’re stupid. I’ve done lots of research on this and proximity to other men, previous promiscuity, comparable earning, and ideological liberalism, are the three things that pretty much guarantees a woman will cheat. An open-minded woman who is around other men all day, has expressed a desire for screwing them, and doesn’t have much of a financial need for her husband, is bound to cheat, and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 01:30 PM
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This comment is spot the fuck on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 01:09 PM
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It’s not as bad as most men want it to be. Most jobs won’t find out. The idea that she is hot today at 22 and ugly at 30 is laughable. There are 50 year old women on there wheeling bales of cash to the bank. Women are never held accountable for anything, so even if some on their job or in their family finds out, so what? I think there is an anger behind this post because men are seeing that yet again women can make twice a doctor’s salary for doing absolutely nothing, yet again, a win for women …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 01:05 PM
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Because you all don’t understand women. I can cite scholarly paper after scholarly paper that says a woman is likely to leave a man when she makes more money. A guy’s usefulness to a woman, if he’s not the object of her sexual fantasy, it strictly monetary. Once she can replace you, she will. Literally any divorce lawyer will tell you that women earning their own bread is driving up divorces. They won’t say that, they’ll typically say “money”, but let’s put two and two together. She DID marry th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:28 PM
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No, in short. Not anywhere near close.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 11:44 AM
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Women operate off possibility, men operate off probability. Men and women think of sex from two completely opposite perspectives. Men are built for having unending, superfluous sex. Irrespective of contraceptives, women are meant to have sex sparingly. You have to understand 2 things to understand why this is true: Reproductive ability Reproductive consequence Reproductive ability - The reason women are more important in society is because they aren’t as efficient reproductively. 1 man can impre…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:08 PM
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Because “pay for everything” to you all means “mansion, g-wagon, professionally manicured lawns, top private school for kids, and shopping sprees on demand. “Pay for everything” to a reasonable person is a rancher or single family home, a modest monthly allowance for leisure ($250-$500), a reliable economy car (Honda civic/accord, Toyota corolla/camry), and public schooling for the kids. Bear in mind, modern women WANTING to work decreased the earnings for men. So realistically, you can’t disrup…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:04 AM
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Only you could say this. Being a guy, I’d be crucified for saying this. I still say it because I just don’t care, but it will only be received coming from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:44 AM
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Says you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 01:52 PM
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Because women have a great power in society. And with great power, comes great responsibility, and they are dropping the ball, MASSIVELY. That power is, the power to determine which men become fathers and which men don’t. If you disagree, put it like this… Barring the infertile, there exist no woman that wants to have a child, but can’t. There are plenty of men who want to have a child, but can’t. There’s so much that goes on when a woman has a kid by an “absent” guy. Abortion is legal, and thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 01:45 PM
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In life you get happiness or knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:16 AM
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That tends to be the default response I get from people who seem to think that because I’m a man my primary concern is pussy. I really don’t care about women or relationships and in fact, I’d rather porn and get limp dick in front of real women. I say this because, the whole “incel” as a default response to everything I say as a way of trying and low-blowing your way to winning this debate, has no effect on me whatsoever other than making me believe even more than I did a few seconds ago, that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:45 AM
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Women naturally defer to men; so; if you’re insinuating that women should be in power perhaps women should finally take the initiative and grab the bull by the horns instead of complaining about dominant men, only to spread their legs for such men in an attempt to fuck their way into his protection and provision. That’s very unbecoming of someone insinuating they should be in power. Yes, the world is a violent world. If I don’t throw a lion a piece of chicken he will kill for it. If I don’t kill…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:13 AM
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I don’t approach so I never get rejected. I’ve never approached lol. I’m a volcel. This has nothing to do with me. It has everything to do with the fact that so many men don’t actually know a thing about women, and because men think women are these benevolent, Mother Teresa-type figures who need to be coddled and cradled, we have a bunch of women running around gaining power in society with no one holding them accountable for a damn thing. Literally, a woman can have sex irresponsibly, and we wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 01:38 AM
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I have a problem with your logic because it can justify lots of discrimination, like racism. Keep in mind, most men take rejection well, but with your “risk analysis” it’s best to be misleading because of the minority of men who don’t take rejection well. Well what’s the difference between a cop knowing most black people take police encounters well but based on the few who don’t, he’ll draw his weapon on every encounter he has with a black person? After all, “risk analysis”. And you being the gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:47 AM
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They’re denied at first. Women choose two types of men based on their existential goal in life. When looking to have a child they choose the bad boy, if they can’t get the rich and handsome guy (which most can’t). And after having the child they look for the stable guy. Nearing the maturation of their children, when provision and stability is no longer needed, they revert and go for the bad boy again, just the older version of the bad boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:34 AM
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Good women leave the market very young. Understand what I’m saying though…I’m not saying women who marry young are good women, I’m saying the good women tend to get married young. Women are inundated with male advances; which means that a woman can never truly have a lack of options. Even when you hear a woman says she lacks options, she’s really saying she believes she deserves better than what she qualifies for. What she has is either a. Unrealistic standards or b. Problems that run men off. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:23 AM
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Because that would be trying to insult someone. If someone looked and smelled that way the honest truth is that you aren’t interested, so just say that and keep going. On a continuum there’s Lies——the polite lie——truth——the insulting truth——insulting Swing for “truth” and you’ll be just fine. Balance is everything in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:40 AM
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Actually most men would rather an honest rejection. Most men don’t approach. The ones who do, would rather you tell them you don’t like them if you don’t. They keep going because you all leave the door open with stupid shit like “I have a boyfriend”. When has that ever meant anything to a woman who likes a guy lol? Say “I’m not interested”. There is no objection to that. There is no getting around that. There’s nothing to misinterpret there. Most men who approach would appreciate that. There is …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:36 PM
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The law’s job is to maintain the LEAST acceptable morality for society
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:04 PM
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Being an absent parent is legal, does that make it right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:02 PM
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I don’t care what’s accepted by a fucked up society. That’s like asking a fat person if eating too much is healthy or good,. I care about outcomes, and the fact of the matter is men taking the leash off of women’s sexuality has resulted in women picking piss-poor men to be fathers and that as undeniably and empirically had a negative impact of society. You just refuse to accept it for sociopolitical reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:48 PM
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Oooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:41 PM
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Look around lard ass, you’re late to the party
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:38 PM
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Already have
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:36 PM
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And if you want to be technical. A man seeing a 16 year old isn’t nearly as bad for that teen as being born to a single mother. In many cultures 14 is an adult. It’s still gross, but your argument is shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:33 PM
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Bud, sleeping with bad boys creates single mothers like red and blue make purple. Shy of being fucking retarded, being born to a single-mother is about the worst thing that can happen to a child, and the sociological literature proves it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:30 PM
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Nope. I just believe people should be held accountable for their actions and you’re apart of this new order of dumbasses who think society’s condition is completely fucking divorced from the decisions of its constituents.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:13 PM
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You’re quite welcome
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:12 PM
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So you just don’t want to acknowledge all the terrible shit that happens as a result of fucking bad boys as “bad”. So what if someone doesn’t want to acknowledge the results of pedophilia as “bad”?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:10 PM
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I agree with the part before the comma
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:07 PM
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Idc, I shouldn’t be paying for kids I don’t have. Those women thought those men were the better men, let those men and women pay for them. And dumbass, some women have three tits, still doesn’t change that two is the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:06 PM
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So you’ve moved. Sexual preferences aren’t themselves bad, acting on them is. I agree. Being attracted to bad boys isn’t bad, fucking them is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:00 PM
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Kids don’t have to do with sex? Who ties your shoes in the morning?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:57 PM
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Congratulations on your relationship’s imperviousness to your harlotry but just because a guy survives a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head doesn’t mean I’d advise such action as a regular practice. Again, exceptions don’t change the rule. What’s up with feminists and their illogical-ass “but the unicorn”-type arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:56 PM
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You can’t? Look in the “taxes” section in your paycheck. Food stamps, wic, etc…you paying for other men’s children
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:00 PM
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So pedos shouldn’t be held accountable for pedophilia
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:58 PM
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A wholesome family raises the best kids to sustain society. Women are a hindrance to the formation of these families, specifically whorish women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:55 PM
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I’m a volcel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:53 PM
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If you can’t see how women’s sexual preferences for bad boys inspires men to be such, then I don’t know what to tell you. If you can’t see how procreating with criminals leads to problem-child children, I don’t know what to tell you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:51 PM
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Okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:50 PM
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I don’t think the treatment is unjustified though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:45 PM
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It was about you saying sexual preferences can’t be wrong…clearly they can. Women prefer bad boys. These are mischievous men who are a danger to themselves and society, how is that not a bad sexual preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:44 PM
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I prefer women on screen, they’re more tolerable. I don’t want you to regret anything, I want slutty women to be introspective and realize a lot or the problems they complain about in society are indirect results of their sexual lack of discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:40 PM
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Says pedophiles
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:37 PM
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Know you are objectively a slut lol. It’s none of my business until put it on a public forum lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:36 PM
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I’m an incel. That solves that. Now answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:31 PM
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So whore-shaming is justified especially if you’re a guy who doesn’t want to hear women bitch about the societal problems they’re creating lol. “Men are killing women” said every single mother who raised a killer as a result of picking some savage for a baby-daddy on the grounds of “he’ll protect me”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:29 PM
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Except women are 4x as likely to end relationships, and women are evolutionarily attracted to men who are the least likely to stick around
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:22 PM
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Whores become single mothers, single mothers raise the men women complain about. Statistically
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:18 PM
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Bullies typically come from whores…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:16 PM
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That’s your interpretation of their use of the word. There’s a disdain for sluts because sluts have a negative impact on society. Much like calling a person who likes assaulting people a bully is a fitting name for a pitiable person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:13 PM
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So if a slut isn’t a woman who fucks a lot of dudes, what is?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:06 PM
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The point is that you believe lying is okay to avoid being held accountable for your decisions. My point is, there is no circumstance under which lying to avoid accountability or judgment for the truth, is okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:56 PM
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So a foster parent lying to their child about their adoption is okay, to avoid judgment?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:50 PM
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And plenty of women’s preferences are wrong actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:33 PM
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That’s not the point, the point is being able to stand behind your decisions
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:33 PM
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So a foster parent lying to their child about their adoption is okay, to avoid judgment?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:25 PM
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So lying is acceptable to avoid accountability? Again, think before you answer, we live in a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:18 PM
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Held accountable for your preferences for who you fuck. Part of having agency is being judged, that’s just life. Judgment comes with any decision you make.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:16 PM
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They should just legalize it. You will have a very dangerous society in the near future if they don’t. As women earn more, their standards go up meaning the average or even above average man won’t suffice for the average or even below average woman. So you will see more sexual violence and violence against the few men who qualify as a result of this new stratification. It’s been documented in the past as well. Societies in which the average men can’t start a family fail miserably after becoming …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:15 PM
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So lying to avoid being held accountable is acceptable in society? Think before you respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:07 PM
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So men are responsible for women lying? Gotcha. This is why dating is fucked up. Men like OP refuse to hold women wholly accountable for their being and actions. Agency without accountability is like giving a person invisibility. You will get a terribly irresponsible, mischievous, narcissistic person who is wholly unable to see error of their ways. By your logic, a criminal shouldn’t tell the truth for fear of imprisonment. A parent shouldn’t tell the child the truth about their adoption for fea…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:01 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:46 AM
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You’re adding shit now. I don’t think you understand markets either you’re just using them to create add a bunch of bullshit context after the fact so you can act like you’re the only one who understands your fuck-dome of a situation: Bud, you said a woman who wouldn’t date you at 50k but would when you’re a top earner isn’t a gold digger. Then you said a woman who values money over all else is a gold digger. Those are two contradictory statements Sir KnowsALot, you lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:55 AM
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Bud, definitions must be definite. You said “…peddle the idea on PPD that if a woman wouldn’t date you when you are making 50k, but would date you when you are a top earner then she only wants you for your money” and you frames that as the object or your disagreement. Then you said that a gold digger is a woman who values wealth above all other attributes”. If a woman wouldn’t date you at 50k but would when you’re a top-earner, that, by YOUR OWN DEFINITION, is a gold digger. The only thing that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:31 AM
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No, but you certainly can’t become addicted to something you haven’t consumed. So consumption is requisite for addiction. I don’t disagree with all the SMV stuff bud, I’m red pilled as fuck so you’re not going to find me disagreeing with SMV, I both know it and agree with it…it’s just peripheral at best to this conversation about are “women who want men with a lot of money” being gold diggers. My problem is that you gave a definition of gold-diggers that wasn’t definite. If someone didn’t know w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:14 AM
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Not really. Certainly the supply and demand of/for food has to do with a food addict’a consumption of it. But according to you, a woman who cares about being provided for is being reasonable. So at what point do you separate “gold-digger” from “a woman that wants to be provided for” because your definition of “valuing wealth at the expense of other attributes” doesn’t delineate the difference? Isn’t a woman who values money at the expense of all other attributes just a really mature person who w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:48 AM
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So there are no gold-diggers. Every woman who wants a rich guy just cares a lot about her lifestyle, goals, and getting the most out of her market worth? The obsession over money would be not only justified, but encouraged. There are no gold-diggers then, correct? Much like there are no food-addicted people, since eating is merely survival?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:39 AM
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I’m doing incel things right now, I’m jacking off to porn and owning blue pillers. So at what point is a woman a gold-digger if the concern for money is merely a survival instinct?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:32 AM
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How is that a gold-digger when financial stability is important? Doesn’t she just care about being financially secure?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:27 AM
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I can be bitter or happy as hell, still doesn’t change the fact that you’re a piss-poor debater who took a stand and is now on his quasi-intellectual-ass. I can’t verify your 90-day Fiancé story, but you’re an idiot if you think that as women get more money they care less about the money men make. There is no physiological or evo. psych. literature that would agree with you…quite frankly the only person who does is the “rich” nutjob struggle-debater over here that’s killed his argument so many t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:19 AM
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You can’t divorce the market dynamics from that which comprises the market, choices. Again, what makes a woman a gold-digger?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:15 AM
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So I pose the question, what is a shallow woman to you? Or rather, a gold-digger?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:10 AM
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And markets are but the reification of the choices people make. If there’s significant differences in the impetus behind those choices seriousness, you can’t use a person’s choice in one area to explain the other. If I die if I don’t work, my choice in how much I accept from my employer is motivated by a vastly different force than who I fuck tonight when I’m bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:09 AM
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“Bitter man” just means I stumped you lol. Your wife knew what you did and you knew what she did.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:03 AM
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You have to get a job, you don’t have to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:01 AM
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I don’t even want to begin breaking down how extraneous that analogy was so I’ll just stick to the topic at hand, “provision” is different from “degree of provision”. Wanting provision does not make you shallow. Wanting a needlessly high degree of provision does make you shallow…that’s about as remedial as I can make this for ya bud. Whether you like it or not, it’s shallow. To act as though a heightened taste for opulence doesn’t make you shallow is to go against a few century-old determination…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:53 AM
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What I’m getting at is that you’re purposefully obfuscating “financial security” and “degree of financial security”. Yes, every woman wants financial security. And so you say that a woman wanting a rich guy is just wanting “financial security” and so she isn’t shallow. False, she wants a “degree of financial security” that qualifies her as shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:46 AM
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So, they are shallow if an excess of money is prioritized over character… by definition, they are shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:41 AM
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But you just said “most attractive women have a threshold of financial success they are looking for, but beyond that they are interested primarily in qualities like chemistry, good looks, romance, etc…” So how does that comport with “they go after the best provider they can get”? Are you dumb or just stupid lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:38 AM
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Man I hate it when they tap out 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:35 AM
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No, now you’re arguing against yourself. Just a second ago you asked “a woman is shallow for wanting a man who can provide”, now you’ve moved and have asserted that women go after the best they can get. You’re highlighting my point. You’re not as much trying to debate as you are trying get an ego boost by arguing with other men that you’re better than them and deserve hotter women than them lol. I know guys like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:34 AM
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Superficial - not having or showing any depth of character or understanding. The emphasis on that which isn’t related to character, and quite frankly choosing materiality over character, or in other words, disqualifying someone on the basis of non-character related criteria, is by definition, superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:31 AM
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No. You’re trying to obfuscate here and I’m not going to let you do it. There is an average level for wealth and attractiveness that is expected. You’re trying to justify that shallowness of the people who expect far beyond those levels, by lumping these people in with the many people who expect the average. Yes, a woman is a gold digger if she wants a man who is rich. No she isn’t a gold digger if she wants a man to provide. If you can’t see the billion-acre sized gap between “gold-digger” and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:26 AM
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No, my position is that women try to hide their shallowness behind that oversimplification you just gave, where “provide” is purposefully made ambiguous so as to hide the unreasonable amount of money they require from a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:22 AM
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Yes, it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:17 AM
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No, this happens a lot. Where despite how unrealistic a qualification may be, the outliers that qualify will think it’s more than fair. Sort of how Jeff Bezos who is infinitely richer than you might call a woman that didn’t want to date you “reasonable” for wanting a man who could support her lol. She’s not shallow, she just wants a billionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:16 AM
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But disqualifying someone on the basis of income means income is chief among your concerns. Materiality being a chief concern is by definition, shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:13 AM
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You’re rich? That explains your position lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:10 AM
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How is a taste for opulence not a reflection of a heightened importance on material abundance? That’s the equivalent of me saying I’ll only date a supermodel but I’m not big on looks lol. Just accept that you’re shallow lol, it’s okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:09 AM
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So by this logic, the women with the most money would be more apt than any other woman to date broke guys… Your statement is so clearly oblivious to basic intersexual dynamics that it’s almost laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:06 AM
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A cup of coffee is closer to a reasonable price than the life-long commitment, house, and car she expects for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 04:37 PM
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Basically women will always be dissatisfied. There is no satisfying them. So when a woman increases her baseline for satisfaction by sleeping around, she only worsens the already-slim chance that she will last in the relationship. Men understand that the point of a relationship is duty, not satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 04:18 PM
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I don’t fear I’ll never satisfy one. My fear is that women think the only reason to stay in a relationship is satisfaction, it isn’t. Men stay in relationships despite being dissatisfied, because it’s not about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 04:12 PM
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Except a man’s fear is rational, based off human nature. A woman’s fear of that is irrational, and is a projection-based fear as she can’t imagine that a cheating man isn’t absolutely infatuated with the other woman, because when a woman cheats, she’s withdrawn her loyalty to her husband and is now the other man’s…temporarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 03:59 PM
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I don’t fear female sexuality, I fear building a life over a woman that can exercise no discipline over her sexuality, only to have that lack of discipline wreck the lives of me, our children, and even that woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:59 PM
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ANECDOTES
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:57 PM
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You’re highlighting the problem. Do you really want to establish an environment where commitment is contingent on your partner’s ability to replace you on the basis if your incompetencies? Because sex is better with another guy you should leave your husband? But then you find another guy who fucks better, now you leave your new husband? You’re proving women perpetually look for the better option. What if a guy left you because the next chick’s eyelashes are longer? Then left that chick because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:53 PM
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There is no guarantee in dating. That’s the problem most women have. They want guarantees. Everything in life is a risk, certainly in dating. Think about it like this, the guy talking to you, taking you out, spending his time and money is a risk. By the end of the date he’s risked it four times, the approach, dare 1, 2, and 3. A simp will wait forever, but a guy with options doesn’t have to wait at all so consider 3 dates of him waiting, an indicator of high interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 01:42 PM
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You didn’t read any of the text following which debunks the reason you just gave.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:15 PM
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See, me personally I don’t really care about a woman’s orgasm or sexual pleasure. Women are like cats, give them everything or give them nothing and they may stay or they may go. Women will find flaw with whatever you give them. The best you give them becomes the worst they’ll accept. With women, putting forth effort is like ruminating over which numbers to choose on a lotto ticket; it’s a chance ordeal and no amount of mental effort will affect the odds. So I don’t really prioritize women’s org…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:13 PM
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“Often” is such a weird word. What does it mean? 88% of divorces are initiated by women. Most relationship endings, I bet a number similar number to that of divorce, are initiated by women. Men leaving their wives, by the stats I listed above, isn’t very common at all, so just how common is a man leaving for a younger woman? First of all, age gap marriages are only 8.5% of the population and that’s including older women/younger men too. So what percent of some fraction of 8.5% is specifically, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 04:38 AM
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No, his ice cream example is spot on. Even with my dog, he never had a problem with water until one day he tried some juice I had laying around and although I only gave him water after, I had to watch him closely because he now had an appetite for juice and was more reluctant to drink water. Same thing with humans, and even more so with women than men. I’ve noticed that when men cheat it is never a threat to their relationship. Meaning sex for men is never really emotional. For women, cheating i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 04:07 AM
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I don’t really think you understand women enough to list what they want. Your standards are way off. And I don’t think you’ve properly diagnosed the problem with dating in society. You’re just missing a lot here, and that’d be fine if you weren’t speaking so definitively.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:53 AM
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Riiiiight…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:10 PM
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Exactly lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:11 AM
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Basically what happened is a bunch of wise men called “forefathers” said “society needs good stable families because they motivate men to achieve, are best for raising children, and nix women’s propensity to search in perpetuity for the absolute best male by every perceivable attribute only to end up a single miserable mother with a child that will be a pain in the ass of society”. To do this, they made men the breadwinners and kept women out of the workforce. This did a lot of really important …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:39 PM
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Just not the same effort on making the first move, courting, paying the bills, defending the both of you…he can do all of that lol. You mean “same effort” regarding washing a fucking dish.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 10:51 PM
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You’re playing, right? Women basically pick men on the basis of how much the man DOESN’T require her to struggle, try, or put forth effort. Women pick men who have it all as a means of not getting it themselves…the whole point of women picking men is to be a lard-ass who is handed everything lol. By your thinking homeless, disabled men should be in high-demand because the woman has to push herself to cover for the both of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 10:49 PM
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Lol. You’re probably at the place that has the highest concentration of people who know what they want and what they have to offer. Introspection is EXTREMELY high on this sub, relative to those IRL. Actually, I’ve noticed it seems the people who have bo understanding of how men and women work, or how relationships work, tend to do the best in relationships. Once you understand what relationships are and if you’re a man who understands women, honestly, outside of the occasional hookup, you don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 08:07 AM
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Not unless you’re a top 5 percenter man. So what hookup culture has done is inundate women with options, driving up the competition among most men for even below average women, and commodifying practically every woman for the top guys. This is a problem because as much as society, men and women alike, shit on the average guy, the average guy is the backbone of society. The average guy is running the trash service. The average guy is moving the freight. The average guy is arresting the bad guys. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:58 AM
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I disagree. Women’s dating issues are because they literally all want the same guy, and even if they were to get that guy, due to their neuroticism they quickly become underwhelmed with any guy low enough to love them. I mean, it’s simple math, women can’t and won’t all get the 5% of men they want. But since women themselves know they would only sleep with a guy they’d want long term, they think that men think the same way, and mistake the fact that these 5% of guys will screw them for this 5% o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:36 AM
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No you’re just stupid and don’t understand the natural, mathematical dilemma inherent in dating for men. Women want 10% of men, and they want them because those men are the top 10%. Therefore no matter how great men get as a whole, 90% of men will always have dating problems. The Incredibles phrase comes to mind “If Everyone Is Special, No One Is”. You keep thinking there is a static threshold/bar at which women will accept men. If every man became a buff, rich, tall, handsome millionaire today,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 08:52 AM
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Alright so here is the real answer. Unattractive women who make above average money have no choice but to date down. So you’ll find women in the comments saying “I met my husband when he was living in a can” or whatever, truth is those women are ugly, fat, or both. I hate to be that blunt but it’s the truth. Their job does nothing to make them more desirable to the men they want. Essentially, the men they want can afford better looking women than them. Yet and still, most of these women who’ve e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 08:39 AM
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Bud, I don’t think you understand that the dating market for most men simply doesn’t exist. Given women’s mate selection strategy, only about 10% of men are on their radar. These men are distinguished by their money, looks, and status. There will never be more than 10% of men who are desired. This illusion that men are in total control of their dating life is pure delusion. Women like the men they do specifically because they are not like 90% of other men. This is something I don’t think most of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 08:08 AM
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If it helps, I’m a 6’1 muscular tatted light-skinned-tyrone that has done modeling shoots and I can’t get laid. There’s a lot of different reasons people don’t get laid. Honest to God, only about 10% of guys are getting laid and it has more to do with money and status than anything. The other guys are the literal top 1% of looks, which, I’m probably top 10%, maybe even top 5%, but not enough to have women literally come to me like those guys do. I have friends that are those guys. When I say the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:49 PM
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Yes, it is. You nuanced youngins who have never had to shovel coal into a furnace or throw chains on a drill rig think everything is about Bluetooth technology, Cardi B’s next single, and turning up on the weekend. Relationships are about kids, and kids are about the continuation of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:23 AM
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No, look at the stats. Divorce and bastard children started happening right around the coining of Rosie the Riveter, in the 40s, when women went to Steel Mills because men were being drafted and couldn’t occupy them. Literally Welfare says you can’t have a man in the house. Which proves my original point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:21 AM
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Women still marry for purely financial reasons. All that’s happened is that modern tech has globalized their choices leading them to choice-induced paralysis. The modern dating scene for women is define by two syndromes “Kid in the candy store” and “Goldilocks’ Porridge” syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:18 AM
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You need more? You’re the one trying to dodge things. I have institutions within the US, literally an entire field of sociology that agrees that single-motherhood negatively affects children and you’re trying to cherry-pick a case in Timbukfuckingtu instead of dealing with the body of work we have here. Keep in mind, even in Scandinavia, single-mother households still produce worse-off children on average than intact households. Just give it up already.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:15 AM
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https://www.purdue.edu/hhs/hdfs/fii/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/s_wifis02c04.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:12 AM
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https://srcd.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/cdev.13342
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:11 AM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/opinions/are-children-raised-with-absent-fathers-worse-off/amp/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:09 AM
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Sweety, YOU CANNOT ACCURATELY COMPARE DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. They don’t even do this often in academia because it’s so impossibly hard to control for variables you don’t even know exist that may be affecting the outcome. I live in the US, all I care about is the US. Either we talk about the US or we don’t talk at all. No one is changing narratives. Diesel engines get higher gas mileage typically. If I dropped a diesel in my car my car would literally explode. By your logic I established a false ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:06 AM
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Says you, today. Every relationship that has failed has once been alive lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:00 AM
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Police, military, firefighters, spies, volunteers... That’s a very feminine mindset of yours that proves my points. See, women are insecure. Insecurity = fear = self-preservation = selfishness = self over principles. Maybe this is why women are so disloyal, you all think from a purely self-preservative perspective. Believe it or not, men don’t. If we did, we wouldn’t want relationships 😂😂 Relationships inherently don’t benefit men. They’re an exercise in altruism for men. You get a wife so you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:59 AM
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Nah, just because you refuse to concede something widely accepted as an axiom in the literature doesn’t mean I’m creating “false cause and effect” relationships. https://ifstudies.org/blog/substance-abuse-mental-illness-and-crime-more-common-in-disrupted-families I could literally crash this server with google-scholar links to peer-reviewed metal-analysis on the effects negative effects of single-motherhood. Again, I said we shouldn’t do cross-country comparisons because it’s hard to isolate and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:52 AM
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So the fuck what, most men don’t. I get tired of hearing that same red herring as though the 88% of women that file divorces are all just getting the absolute fuck beaten out of them. No, most of them had perfectly good guys they traded for some newer dick or dollars. That’s it. Shut the domestic abuse shit up. My ex said I hit her to her new guy and I never laid a hand on her. In fact, I pid everything and was an absolutely simp looking back on it. She got exposed for saying that stupid shit be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:37 AM
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I’d rather not do cross-country comparisons. Just too many variables to consider. There’s no pinpointing what things lead to certain outcomes. I just know what’s been studied in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:30 AM
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Yes, indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:22 AM
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Nah I just expect bit more solid reasoning from the most educated political demographic in American history
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:21 AM
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Link that children from single-mother households are more likely to be victims of and engage in most domestic violence? Are you serious? Are you familiar with any social studies literature? It’s common knowledge but sure. I’ll do it in a few. My point is that women get to choose who reproduce. Yes men have agency, of course they do. But women pick the literal worst men to reproduce with and be in relationships with. They make copies of these men, then complain about the copies. The very thing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:15 AM
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Yes, literally human history is about cleaning up the shit of greedy people. Restructuring society, and then society failing again because of greedy, hedonistic people. There is a popular saying among historians that says “we learn from history that we don’t learn from history”. And Fox News is right on a lot of things, wrong on a lot of them as well, but they’re right when it comes to gender roles. Literally in everything that is successful in life we have clear and defined roles. You go to a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:09 AM
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My point is, you found an exception to my analogy, how does that disprove my point? We are still beginning to resemble other species who don’t mate for life lol, like the vast majority of species who don’t and it’s harming society. Your list was cute but you presented it because you were trying to be technically right or a corollary at-best, peripheral point, not because it in any way refuted my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:03 AM
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Again, I go back to how things panned out in the past when we didn’t have these things. You keep using these drastic hypotheticals as though men are terrible beings that knock up women and make them starve if women depend on them, but in the past women depended on men and didn’t have the state to run to and families were intact and women were happier. Turns out, women picked better men back then because they didn’t have the state to run to, and left the bad boys alone, so they didn’t end up hung…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:59 AM
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Okay, you found the exception. Congrats
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:53 AM
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No, when women make just as much or more than men, they disregard those men. Keep in mind, women are motivated by resources, men are motivated by sex. Women are naturally motivated to achieve more resources than men, as resources tend to be a means to some end for men, and resources ARE the end for women. As such, women are outpacing men in careers and don’t see a lot of their less educated, lower earning counterparts as viable, despite the fact that those men they disqualify are the only men th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:52 AM
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No, I didn’t mean “detestable” like that. I did say in the context of a relationship. My mother is a damned good mother. There are women who volunteer their time to poor third-world villages, no getting paid a damned thing, coming out of their own pocket, sacrificing their own time, offering their own sweat to help someone who arguably has no relation or significance to them. I’d never say women as a whole are detestable. I was talking about in the confines of relationships, the relationship a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:41 AM
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Human history hasn’t shifted back at all. It has nothing to do with the functionality of past systems bud. You’re reading too deep into that analogy. The point was that things work perfectly fine, but people search for more hedonistic things and often ruin perfectly functional things in the process. This is literally the story of humanity. Greed ruins, and today we live in a society of unsurpassed greed and hedonism and that is that narrative of society. The progress is in the name of “me, mysel…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:31 AM
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No, I just see things for what they are. How do you love a person who wants you for your money and will leave you, completely regardless of your condition, when you need them most or if they find “better”? Seriously how do you love that person? How? Do you know what love is? Love is inherently I’m unconditional, or at least, it’s measured by its ability to withstand conditions. Your mother or father loved you. Why? They loved you despite who you are, what you do, what you become, or how they fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:23 AM
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They will, most definitely. It’s crazy how things work. In the hard times, women want the hardworking cornball who is stable and protective. In the good times created by the hardworking cornball, she leaves him for the bad boy because he’s “fun”. She pops a few photocopies of him out and they become criminals or utter failures because he isn’t around. They ruin society, and then what do you know? She’s right back with the cornball because he’s “stable” lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:15 AM
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Shifts don’t occur because things are obsolete. Today shifts occur because people are wayward, and the eye is never satisfied. Bud, i can go rub two sticks right now and make a fire to keep me warm...that method isn’t “obsolete”. It’s still a proven, surefire way to make a fire to stay warm. But because people are lazy and want luxury we have point-of-touch and voice-controlled automatic climate control systems that do the job...not because sticks are obsolete...because we simply wanted somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:11 AM
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I don’t believe women are capable of loving men...and for good reason. I think that if a man wants love he should cherish his mother and father, his closest childhood friends, and his children. They will provide enough love for him and enough for him to love...hell, even a dog will. Do I think a man can love a woman? Yes, but only if he doesn’t understand women. You either love women or understand them, you can’t do both. I think women are wholly unlovable, rather detestable beings, at least to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:00 AM
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What? The "if they worked, they'd still be around" part is false. We live in a society with a growing pregressive movement that renders things obsolete simply because they're old, completely irrespective of functionality. Again, the statistics showed the gender roles you hate so much yielded longer relationships and healthier families by a significant margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 05:39 AM
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the whole "abusive husband" thing is a lie. According to the National Demostic Violence hotline only 15% of women in the U.S. have ever reported relationship abuse. That's not marriage abuse, that's relationship abuse. Marriages are even less common than relationships, so I can only assume the number for abuse is drastically lower in marriages. The idea that men are out here just cloberring women for making tuna caserole 6 days a week is some contrived feminist narrative that isn't borne-out in …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 05:37 AM
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That's where you're wrong. That's not how economics works. There are mechanims driving prices, and prices are not determine by charitability, but rather a fiduciary duty to maximize profits. ​ Simple supply and demand says I have 100 of a good worth $4 each. That $4 is determined by: how much it costs me to produce the good (cost) how much of the good there is in circulation (supply) how much people want the good (demand) If I all of a sudden start flooding the market withtons of my good, when t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 05:31 AM
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It's funny because what we're actually seeing is more and more children being born to single mothers who choose to sleep with the dregs of society. The "competent" are having less children. The higher you go educationally and even financially, the less children you find. Relationships aren't about competition, that's the problem, they should be. Part of the sexual liberation has made women attracted to absolute losers because the top 10% of men (visually, financially, and socially) have hoardes …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 05:15 AM
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There aren't ltr's in the wild. There are monogamous relationships, such as penguins, but that's only for the adolescent life of the child. Which is actually quite funny because penguins understand gender roles...and we can't. That's saying something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 05:09 AM
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Lol, that's like saying "I hit 10 people and 1 didn't bleed, so to those 9 people, their bleeding is their problem not mine". Just because an outlier relationship is, currently (your relationship could fail tomorrow or a year from now) successful, doesn't mean that the pressures society has placed on relationships as a whole are somehow inconsequential. That's literally the argument rich tend to use on the poor, "I made it so your problems are your problems". While I do agree that each person mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 05:07 AM
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By practically every societal metric, things are worse off. -More single parent households (there's literally a body of research done into the effects of this) -People, both men and women, are more miserable (suicide rates up, alcoholism rates up, domestic violence, etc..) -Less sense of community (leads to a more easily oppressible society) I could go on and on. Look, people are wayward. Without boundaries set for them, people will destroy a society. Society is nothing but for the laws and law …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:57 AM
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The prupose of a relationship is the health of society. It's not to get your nuts off. It's not to explore your sexuality. It's not to find a chess mate. It's not to travel the world and eat rare ice creams together. It's not to blow bubbles on a sunny sunday morning together. It's to ensure a healthy society. Relationships are failing, and society isn't healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:51 AM
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Women want men who make more money - if women left the workforce, men would make more money. Women claim to not have enough time to spend with kids because they work - if women left the workfroce, men would make more money, and they'd have more time to spend with kids...as they once did. ​ Women can control their reproduction, so can men. Don't have sex unless they are prepared for the outcomes. Kids being on the street is terrible, but it is so terrible that it will act as a preventative measur…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:49 AM
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in progress...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:44 AM
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The problem is that when people can easily leave, they don't try to make things work. I look at outcomes. We've tried this "individualistic" culture with sexual liberation and "indepedent women" and women are statistically more miserable than ever, as well as men. The family is more broken than ever, and we have countless social problems to deal with as a result. We can demonize the "forced relationships" of yesteryear but...they worked. People reported higher levels of happiness, families staye…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:43 AM
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No, statistically, women file for 88% of divorces. While that doesn't account fo single-mother households, I can't imagine it's too different from the the marital statistcal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:36 AM
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Yes, that is the point. The point is that we've removed the consequences for indulgence from the individual, and have placed them on society. ​ "If men want contraception to go away but also want to have sex regularly, they'd better prepare to raise a lot of kids". And that is precisely what I'd like to see. What you just described was a consequence for an action, and acountability for such. That's how society SHOULD run. If men want to have a lot of sex, they had better be prepared to raise a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:34 AM
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That's the problem. Life and Relationships aren't about fulfilling your wants and desire, they're about making the wheel of society go-round. Maybe the first woman I had sex with was a bad lay, but I'll gladly take responsible for her and any child I make with her because that's the right thing to do. The problem today is that we have a generation on individuals who see the functioning of society as a given, that is completely unaffacted by their hedonistic endeavors.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:30 AM
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They can do what they want, just don't complain about the effects of single motherhood which is created by "indepedent women". Most predatorial males, who women complain about, tend to come from single-mother households, for example. Again, women seem to want something from relationships that they aren't getting and can't get, because they want other things for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:28 AM
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Again, male thirst existed while society was much healthier than it is today. The problem can't be male thirst. You have a machine containing parts 1, 2, and 3. It would be illogical to tamper with part 3, run into problems, and think that parts 1 or 2 are now the problem. If you make a change to part 3, whereafter, you have problems, it's only reasonable to think that part 3 is where the problem lies. That's Deductive Logic/Reasoning 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:25 AM
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It isn't societal regression. How do you take the current ailments of society that are inextricably linked to said "progessions", juxtapose them against the "regressive" society of yesteryear in which social institutions were undeniably better, and say "society has progressed". ​ I'm no "baby trapping" anyone, I'm giving women what they want. Women don't seem to understand that the problems they face today in dating are a direct result of the very "freedoms" they requested. They were statistical…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:23 AM
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Because when you have a society to run "peopl do what they want" throws off the equilibreum and you tend to get problems...man of these problems women have a problem with but don't seem to understand how they themselves are creating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:19 AM
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No, it's basic supply and demand Simple scenario. -I empoly 2 men. -I pay them $50,000 a year, which covers their consumption and their wives consumption -Their wives want to work for me -There isn't a demand for their wive's labor, but the supply of labor increased...making the price of labor drop -I go to these men and say "people want your job. I'm going to cut your wages and I need more work from you. Leave if you want, but it's going to be tough finding another job" -They agree to $25,000 a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:18 AM
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The end of a relationship is a failure because it quite literally failed to go the distance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:08 AM
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Because the only thing that changed, from the health of the nuclear family and relationships, to the decline of the nuclear family and relationships, was women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:06 AM
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I'm not saying we should force women to do anything. I'm just saying relationships won't become of health again until women do. What I find with people who disagree with my points is near-sightedness. You guys never really take into account anything a macro level. This isn't an insult, just an observation. Perosnally, I don't want to be in a relationship, but I realize that as a man, it's my obligation to be. Why? Because if every man thought like me there'd be no society. Relationships are the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:06 AM
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Nailed it!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:00 AM
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“Benefit” is a bit of a weird word here. Birth control benefits men in the same way legalizing fentanyl benefits partiers. More fun but more death. And the workforce was perfectly fine before women joined. Women being in the workforce contradicts their biological imperative to find a provider. In naturally puts a woman in competition with her man, and it inflates her perceived value to herself, causing her to price herself out if the market. Lastly, women entering the workforce only halved men’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:40 AM
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Well, male thirst has always been around, even when relationships and marriages lasted until death. The only thing that has changed is the amount if options for women and the lack of sexual accountability on their part. Turns out, when given endless variety, women will never settle down. The story of the Women in the “Husband store” and the Men in the “Wife store” is a funny way of illustrating this. Also, I think men believe women want monogamy more than women actually do. The simp doesn’t real…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:36 AM
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A relationship is like a life, it’s in the process of decline. The beginning is but an usher for the end. I don’t care how many relationships there are, I care about the success of each, and statistically, relationships are almost just as likely to end as they are to begin.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:27 AM
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Men mess up good relationships by trying too hard. Women don’t really “mess up” good relationships they just never get in them or end them. Typically, a woman’s dating problems will come from her lack of effort due to having too many options. Typically, a man’s dating problems will come from too much effort due to having no or little options. For the vast majority of men, scarcity in every aspect of their life is something that will always inform their decisions. For women, plethora is something…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:21 AM
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It wasn’t meant to make anyone feel better or offer a solution to anything. I was just demystifying female nature. I wish you the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 05:12 AM
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You never hear men here talk about the nice happy couples in the world. You never hear them talk about happily married men who love their families. I don’t believe such women exist or couples exist. There are f-boys, married men who were begrudgingly settled for or in the process of building resentment toward, and there are single men. The f-boy understands that the appeal if f-boydom is his unattainability. The ‘happily-married’ husband is under the illusion that everything is kosher. Most marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 09:26 PM
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Complete sentences, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 03:32 AM
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You agreed with what I said, then called me a dumbass for saying it. You okay dude? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 03:30 AM
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I speak truth
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 03:22 AM
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I’m offering an explanation for the observable conclusion, Fuckwit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 08:58 PM
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Because he didn’t want proof. And to those who wish to see me as a fool, I look like a fool. To those who wish to see a different point of view, I look enlightened. You think I’m bothered by the opinion if someone so intellectually lazy they throw out the entirety of a needlessly-long by comment with multiple different points, because they whole thing wasn’t someone else’s reworded opinion? Not a mind worth winning over to me. Someone writes an entire book and your refutation is “citations”. Lol…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 08:56 PM
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Read the thread
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 08:50 PM
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Oooo buuurn
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 04:13 PM
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Little girls get held accountable for their actions much harsher and at much younger ages. "Girls will be girls" is barely a thing, if at all. Those women thus then are less likely to take risks. Men raised with those standards often turn out the same way. Not true. The vast majority of scholastic disciplinary actions such as expulsions, suspension, various different written demerits, and admissions into alternative school are suffered by boys, not girls. The majority of sex behavior is not a pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 09:18 PM
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Alright dude whatever. I get it, you can’t match wits. ✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 04:16 AM
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To be candid, nothing I said really deviates from common heteronormative scholastic findings. I use commonly-known axioms regarding male and female behavior, and use deductive logic to arrive at conclusions more specific to male and female behavior regarding dating and relationships. You seem not to understand that objective truth is irrespective of consensus. Consensus is not proof. Consensus is only the degree of mass approval that an argument receives. It has no bearing on the validity of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 03:19 AM
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Much respect to you sir
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 02:38 AM
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Fear is inherent in all human beings. The degree to which it affects the the decisions they makes, varies from male to female, and varies within males and females. Generally, men are far less inhibited by fear, and far more driven by desire. Generally, women are far more inhibited by fear, and far less drive by desire. A simple contemplation of the stereotypical behaviors of both men and women would support what I’m saying. The risky behavior known to men, that often jeopardizes their security, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 02:22 AM
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Your debate tactic is "dismissiveness". It's an intellectually lazy way of posing as though no one's argument is worthy of contending with, so as to avoid contending with it. And the whole "wipe my ass" remark solidified that. The "dismissive" arguers tend to have a very Smart Alec way and crass way of dismissing things so as to emphasize how undeserving the argument is of their time without actually making any detailed and/or specific refutation of anything said. So I'll bid you good day. It wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 10:53 PM
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That made no sense. And you have no evidence that I'm starting from a conclusion. I laid out a list of truths upon which my logic stood. -Sally is mean(a) -Mean people lose friends(b) -People who lose friends are more prone to loneliness(c) If A = B and B = C then A=C... -Mean Sally(a) = More Prone to Loneliness(c) How is that vague? If anything your accusation that I'm being vague is vague because you've given no specific refutation to anything I've said. The antonym of "specific" is "vague". Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 10:41 PM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 10:25 PM
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You're the only person that understood this lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 10:24 PM
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It's not unfalsifiable. Here's how I've come to my conclusion -Fear is present in all humans. Fear is diminished with Security. -Women value(A) security(B). Men value sex. Therefore, fear isn't as great of an inhibitor to the actions of men, as it is for the actions of women. (This is evident in the actions of men and women. Men tend to often risk security(B) for what they desire, and women tend to avoid risk(C) and what they desire to maintain security.) The avoidance of risk(C) is synonymous w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 10:22 PM
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No, my position is this. All humans are to some degree affected by fear, and it does, to a corresponding degree, inform their decisions. Men are more motivated by their desires than they are by fear, often risking security for what they desire, and women are more motivated by their fear than they are their desires, often foregoing their desires to ensure their security. People are trying to box me into saying “only women are scared”. That’s never been my argument. I have a b.s. in chemistry, I’d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 09:21 PM
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Never said it was. Here’s what I’m saying. Yes all humans have fear, and fear dies inform their decisions. Women are more inhibited by their fear, therefore their decisions are predominantly controlled by fear. Men are less prohibited by their fear, and more motivated by their desire. Fear is present in both, however women tens to make decisions that reflect a focus on security and protection, whereas men often sacrifice security and protection to get what they desire. Finding one instance when …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 09:07 PM
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Fear of losing what they desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:56 PM
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I have no problem getting women. I’m probably the Chadiest Chad you’ll ever see lol. I’m a volcel. Personally my outlook is like this: women are only around for the money we provide them. If we had a “friend” who openly said “look, I’m only with you when its fair weather. As long as you’re making money, cool, if you f-up? Imm gone. Oh, and if I find someone better than you, I’m gone as well”. We would all agree that that’s a shitty friend and that that person shouldn’t be in your life. But someh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:50 PM
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Exactly, men don’t do those things because of fear, they do them because of desire. You just proved my point. Men will risk incarceration and a damning label to get what they desire. And no, men rarely stay with women they don’t want. They have some desire for the woman and that’s typically just sexual, and they desire the sex so they deal with the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:26 PM
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You know how fear has two responses, fight or flight? I’m not saying that women all respond ti feae in the same way. Fear could mean ditching the bad boy, or going to him. I can’t determine how women rationalize their fear, I just see they tend to be more motivated by fear than men. And men tend to be more motivated by desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:23 PM
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In general, men will risk security to get what they desire. Women will avoid risk and desire, if it means security. From who asks who out, to how each sex drives, to who has the most risky careers, to who lives at home in mom’s basement more, think.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:13 PM
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Men are more motivated by desire, women are more motivated by fear. I can provide countless examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:07 PM
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Yes and no. Everyone’s decisions are to some degree affected by fear. I’m not arguing the opposite. I’m arguing that men tend to. E motivated more by desire, and women by fear. Examples: -Men will risk rejection(fear) because they desire a woman. -Women will miss-out on a guy they desire because they fear rejection -Women - statistically - will drive mire conservatively out of fear for the consequences of driving faster (tickets, raised insurance premiums, serious injury or death) -Men will risk…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:04 PM
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Yes, fear explains everything you’ve just listed. A woman chooses that type of violent guy because that equates to “protection”. It’s irrational but not really. The idea is that by gaining that guy’s favor, she can, at most,wield his violence against others , and at the very least, know that such violence will be on her side if she is threatened. It’s sort of how wimps in prison think. If I let this guy fuck me maybe he’ll protect me from all the other guys. As a matter of fact, there’s a reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:34 PM
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I’m a man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 03:06 PM
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But me spelling it out was because people weren’t understanding something that is common sensical...that doesn’t make it any less common sensical. 2 + 2 is 4. Me explaining that is less indicative of it not being common sense and more indicative of the level of knowledge possessed by the person to which I’m trying to explain it. I’ve provided proof. You just don’t deem my level of proof sufficient. And at no level will you deem it sufficient... I’ve dealt with the “I don’t like what you say so r…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 03:03 PM
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How is this not common sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 01:23 PM
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Male
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 01:21 PM
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You’re proving my point. Fear is why women, as far as resources and achievements are concerned, tend to be more driven than men. Men get resources to get women. Women get men to get resources. But careers have allowed women to cut out the middleman and simply, get resources. It’s why career women don’t typically do well in relationships. They do such a great job at diminishing fear, that men have little to offer them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 01:19 PM
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Exactly. The “less risky” just means “he can’t protect me”. It’s why women tend to be more attracted at first glance to guys that don’t smile.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 01:14 PM
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Have you dated bad boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 01:11 PM
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For the same reason they date men who are stronger than them and despise/pity men who are weaker. The dilemma of the modern women is that in a quest for a powerful man, she uncovers her weakness. But in the quest for power, she uncovers weak men. In a world where financial status is to be achieved above all else, women, because of what they are attracted to, are the only ones that lose options as they become more successful. Keep in mind, women are more driven than men. Women seek men for securi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 10:42 AM
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Give me an example
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 10:25 AM
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Don’t question whether it sounds nice, question whether it’s true or not. So the most secure women are the most promiscuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 10:07 AM
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Fear is the only driving factor that you can apply consistently, and compatibly, over a woman’s life choices. Any other driving factor for their actions becomes contradictory in different scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 09:57 AM
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You have to understand a fish to catch one
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 09:22 AM
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I’m an attractive guy and I know attractive guys. Trust me, women, unless she’s a 3 or below, really don’t have trouble finding any guy 1-10 to screw. Most men won’t admit to it, but men will screw anything - ANYTHING. I mean, I personally know guys who will screw a girl they aren’t attracted to - at all...just because she’s there. Sex is literally what men are programmed to do. There’s not going to be much turning down of the opportunity. Women simply don’t need to pay for sex. Sec for women is…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:34 AM
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Women aren’t more mature. Men want sex, women want money. Because money is so closely related to “maturity” in society, women who chase after it, usually via career achievement, are deemed more “mature” than men. Not because they’re more mature, but because they’re responding to a biological imperative. There’s two ways women respond to this imperative. Either by chasing money itself or by chasing men. The women who chase money, we call “mature”. The women who chase men for money we call “gold d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 04:36 AM
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I’ve always been able to understand how parts of a whole worked together. How even the most infinitesimal things, when considered in relation to other constituent parts, affected the whole. For those who don’t understand such things, they call people like me judgmental or cynical. These people also tend to have a very happy-go-lucky view about life that is bereft of accountability. They tend to be very fatalistic and deterministic. Because they don’t understand things, things just tend to “happe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 09:01 PM
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Well, to stay on topic, we’re not discussing all of life - just dating and relationships. The imperative for humans is to survive, and this reproduce. Because of this, mating is instinctive within us. We mate solely for the purpose of reproduction. Dating and Love however, are fairly modern ideas. Romance, of and relating to the “Roman” paradigm, sprouted from the seed of thought that there is more to life that the satisfaction of our innate primordial impulses. Intelligence, is essentially one’…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 02:54 PM
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As expected...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 05:11 AM
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Typical. Just go ahead and commend me for cracking the code on you all. Took time, money, and tears lol. Got you bitches now though 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 05:04 AM
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Uh huh...sure. You strike me as number 2. -“I’m independent. I’m an adult” -(average guy chats her up) -“no, thanks, I have a boyfriend” -(rich guy walks into bar...) -“hi, my name’s Fractal, you come here often?” -rich guy “nah, I’m actually a drug dealer, just in town for the weekend to check on some hoes” -“that’s fine, do you need a wife?”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 04:53 AM
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Nah, one of three types Scared of commitment and the work required in relationships. Just wants all the good with none of the actual connection. Can take the shine when it’s sunny but won’t stand the pain when it rains. Usually these women cheat when things start to get serious and blame it on the guy. Any reason suffices. Either he’s doing too much or he’s never doing enough, the porridge is never just-right because it’s not the porridge, it’s goldilocks that’s the problem. And should anything …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 04:38 AM
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Ahh, you’re one of those...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 03:48 AM
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Lol, school is in session. Pay attention. Lesson in progress. You’ll be tested soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 01:35 AM
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You work because you either a. Don’t possess or believe you possess the looks to get a guy to pay your bills... or b. Are unsatisfied with the incomes of the men you have access to
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 01:34 AM
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...keep dating, at your own risk
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 01:32 AM
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Passive aggressiveness takes the route of least resistance. They manipulate. That is their power. Men manipulate things to get women. Women manipulate men to get things. A woman is telling the truth, typically, only when she does not in any way fear the consequences of doing so. A society that holds women accountable for nothing, leaves women petrified of consequences. They avoid them at all cost, and the means of doing so is typically by lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 12:23 AM
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Women almost always mean the opposite of what they say
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 12:10 AM
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Divorce rates are up because of women. Point. Blank. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 12:08 AM
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Single men, I say this as sincerely as possible. Please stop dating. You will, you will stop eventually. You’ll learn from me telling you, or you’ll learn from a woman showing you...but you will learn. Women are like cats. They come and go as they please, they’re entirely self-seeking, and they’re unreliable. Like parasites, they look for the best host, bleed it dry, and move on. If being inside is what makes you happy, do so. Stop becoming so lost in your carnal desire that you think irrational…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 12:07 AM
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99.99% of men are like that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 09:31 PM
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YOU don’t understand, because that’s not what OP asked. They asked why men weren’t protecting. But I agree, women are largely invisible to me. As far as I see it, whatever happens to them happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 01:00 PM
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I agree. One way at looking at the cycle of life is that, at birth and in early age, you are given unto. As you mature during your adult years, you give unto others. In your elder years, you are given unto again. That’s petty much how humans of every culture and creed have operated for all of recorded history. Modern women are the only ones who expect to do nothing but receive their entire lives. I voiced my problems with Capitalism for mature countries, but this tends to be my problem with Soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 03:06 PM
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That’s a different discussion that doesn’t really have to do with relationships. Empathy is being killed by capitalism. When money is the priority, and there’s a limited amount of it, you tend to do what you have to do to get it...which often means stepping on others. Greed, which is the chief motivation fueling capitalism, does not promote empathy. And in times like these, when precariousness is high, meaning scarcity is high, empathy tends to be low, ESPECIALLY when you have forced social dist…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 04:55 AM
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No. Everything I do is for me as of now, I’ve been submitted into this position, as it’s not how I’ve always felt. As a man, you realize you are all you have in this world, and even when you have other people you can somewhat depend on, it’s usually because you provide significantly more value to them than they do to you. And so I run my life like a business. I’ve gotten very real with myself: 1. Women want money, and lots of it. I don’t have it, and even if I did, I’m not sure being wanted for …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 04:37 AM
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If I should protect you because you’re a woman, should you not blow me because I’m a man? Give a little get a little? Sounds crazy right? I know. That’s why I agree with OP. You handle your affairs, I handle mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 04:09 AM
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Then don’t you think TRP has a point then? MGTOW seems a bit extreme for me. I think the biggest contradiction with mgtow is the emphasis on men and women returning to their natural roles but mgtow turning away from women doesn’t seem very natural at all. In fact that’s about as unnatural as it gets considering the only purpose we can apply to humanity per biology is reproduction. But TRP, I think they’re more realistic about human nature than society is. Society basically sells the “love, marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 08:29 PM
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It’s not from the manosphere entirely. I’ve been in an ltr and nothing was good enough. Guy after guy has the same story. Even if you have tons of money like celebrities do, what women can’t seduce from you they tend to litigate from you. It doesn’t take the all-seeing-eye to see that women are to men what ticks are to dogs. For a man that can find a good one, okay great, but even the definition of “good woman” doesn’t strike me as all that good. Financing your life and giving my life to protect…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 04:42 AM
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$80k is slumming it, in no uncertain terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 04:16 AM
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Except you’re structuring peer-groups around age. Women don’t typically discriminate along the line of age, men do; women discriminate along the basis of income.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 03:45 AM
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Don’t feel sorry for me lol, I’d hate to be pitied. I’ve been in a ltr before and honestly, the only hurt I felt was the pain of becoming attached to a sorry excuse for a partner. Being involuntarily single after the relationship sucked at first, and it still has its downs at time, but when I understood that the urge to find a partner, a woman specifically, is just social and biological programming that doesn’t take into account whether I’m actually suited for a relationship, it helped me unders…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 03:40 AM
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...and the rule is 20/80, so what about being top 25% and experiencing trouble dating is inconsistent with 80% of women going for the top 20% of guys? Is it my purported “stupidity” or are 25 and 20 two different numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 03:33 AM
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$80k is slumming it lol. The starting point for any degree of loyalty for attractive women these days seems to be $100k at least. I wouldn’t even try to date making less than that unless you’re comfortable with overweight and unattractive women, which, I wouldn’t mind actually because most of them tend to have really nice personalities and refined and informed views and opinions on life, but the simple fact I couldn’t get hard to her would torment her in ways that I wouldn’t want lol. But I live…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 03:10 AM
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Not at all. Maybe some men think that way, but most men know women want money. I’m very attractive, 25, tall too, but only make $80k and dating is virtually impossible for me so I can only imagine how a lot of other guys are feeling. Men want sex, women want money. Men care about money insofar as it gets them sex, women care about sex insofar as it gets them money. The relationship between men and women revolves around prostitution. I’d say this is the case for most people with an IQ below 100. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 12:27 AM
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I don’t believe in the “abundance” mindset for men. It’s simply not a reality for most men, and it can’t be. This isn’t “redpill” either, it’s just truth. When you combine the ruthlessly selective nature of women with the sheer number of men in existence and that they have access to, abundance is reserved for only the exceptional. “Well, become exceptional”. Fair enough, but the root word of “exceptional” is “except”, and that word tends to conflict with “abundance”, as exceptional implies exclu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 12:32 PM
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Most men care about their partners. Keep in mind, a guy with a bad reputation in bed is a turn-off to women unless he is rich. Actually, I'd venture to say men care more about pleasing their partners than women do. Have you noticed, good sex is ALL about the man's performance? Basically, a male's performance is the determinant of whether or not the sex was good or bad. There's not much the woman has to do, is expected to do, or even can do, to make or break the sexual experience. If you're a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 01:54 AM
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Yeah, it's simple. It's the whole, "a key that can open any lock is a master-key, a lock that can be opened by any key is a crappy lock". Women hold the key to reproduction. It's why a lot of men have a disdain for women. Essentially, if a woman wants kids, she will have them. If a man wants kids, he has to run it by a woman first. Because of this, the nature of women is that they are the filter of humanity. A filter that lets anything through is a crappy filter. As a matter of fact, a filter's …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 01:32 AM
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Well, people here hate to look at things evolutionarily, but evolution explains a lot. Men are attracted to - an - attractive woman. Women are attracted to - thee - attractive man. A woman’s attractiveness to a man tends not to be based on her attractiveness relative to the women around her, but rather her subjective attractiveness to that man. Whereas a man’s attractiveness to a woman is almost entirely based upon the relative quality of the men surrounding both him and her. For example. Take M…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 07:54 AM
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“Dismiss, dismiss, dismiss”. I called it lol. Good luck bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 12:11 PM
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You’ve yet to say anything about the topic at hand, yet you keep talking about “debate this, debate that”. Lol. In life, the weak dodge what they can’t contend with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 03:51 AM
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Just because you’ve erroneously interpreted what has been witnessed as something other than what it is, doesn’t mean that, objectively, it isn’t what it is. If after seeing the divorce rates, who is driving them, the single-mother rates, who chooses those deadbeat men, the average n-count of modern women vs classic women, and various sorts of other telling statistics, you’re not convinced of the objective truth regarding the nature of men and women, why should I embark upon the likely-unavailing…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 10:56 PM
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Lol. You either were raised by a single-father in a cabin far far away from civilization, or you’ve seen AF/BB and Hypergamy and just didn’t know what it was. Practically every guy that has been cheated on is a AF/BB or Hypergamy example. Women want the best man. That guy doesn’t even exist, but they all want him. What they do when they can’t have him is settle for a lesser guy, then cheat with a better guy until that guy sends signals that he would be a stable branch for her to monkeybranch to.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 03:10 PM
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And opinionated-you is the one to judge that? Lol. Go read FDS instead of pontificating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 02:42 PM
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Idk, if you look at the modern woman, it's kind of hard to argue that they aren't solipsists. Career over the biological imperative of having a family...Sex life, aesthetic continuity, and freedom over birthing an unwanted child, made at the whim of her own sexual irresponsibility...Phallus and money over love and connection. Instagram and countless selfies...there's literally videos of women holding their phone...which is facing... them, at a mirror...which is also facing them...not even saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 01:58 AM
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As far as the medical field goes: I don't think men have a privilege as much as they are simply prioritized over women for their own suffering. To be clear, privilege has an "undeserved" or "unearned" connotation. Men make society turn. Men are the worker bees that keep the hive running. The consequences of not studying illnesses in men are far less bearable for society than the consequences for not studying illnesses in women. Add to that that more men get heart disease than women, and why, fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 01:31 AM
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You seemed to be implying that I couldn’t get women. What I’m saying is that I can, but the quality of women is such that I’d rather stay single before sifting through the haystack. Keep in mind, “quality” for me isn’t decided along superficial lines. Quality means decently attractive (your average looking woman) who is loyal, communicates, and is appreciative. I don’t even want the June Cleaver type, although she’d be great, I don’t even want a “good woman”, a woman that isn’t terrible would su…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 08:12 AM
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Again, I’m not having trouble with women. To be clear, I think the direction women are going is bad for society. If you look back throughout history, there’s countless religions, lore, and mythology that warns of the folly of women. However foolish men may be, we at least have come up with principles, and we don’t move them, these principles are the law. Just as Eve supposedly bit the apple, it is always women who seem to degrade these morals and laws. I’m not religious at all, I just find it fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 12:58 PM
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So let me be clear. My frustrations with women aren’t sexual, as a matter of fact I’ve had an extensive sex life that ended because of my frustrations with the hook-up culture and a really bad relationship-break-up, in which I possessed all of the qualities women find attractive “pre-selection due to a “player” reputation, great sex, looks, charm, decent money, tats, beard, fancy apartment, the big expensive dog, spoiling, the Hellcat Charger” and was done dirty. That was my first and only relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 01:54 AM
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I’ve read fds. It is laden with contradictions Argument: Men are supposed to provide and protect, by nature. Contradiction: Men need to cook and clean for themselves, and parenting is a split role, not predominantly the woman’s job. Argument: Men who care about a woman’s sexual past are insecure. Contradiction: Men who sleep around a lot are LVM Argument: Women going after men for money is natural. Contradiction: Men going after women for weight, sex, and youth is shaming, objectifying, and perv…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 12:44 AM
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I think most men have figured out that the pursuit of a woman is self-destructive. Women are chiefly, but among other things, irrational, self-obsessed, unprincipled, and unappreciative. Call me whatever, but for every instance in which a man has been betrayed by a woman for some inadequacy we wrongfully believe justifies her disloyalty, I have an example where that inadequacy ceased to exist but yet the betrayal was still present. Men known this and have asked themselves, what is the point of j…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 12:46 AM
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As a model, I can tell you that it is rare for women to even subtly approach you. An approach from the most aggressive of women will typically be “they’re having some nice sales aren’t they?” or “is someone feeding that stray cat outside the store?”. Hot women simply don’t come up to men and ask “are you single?”, I all bull on that all day. Hot women or really any women, don’t need to risk anything, certainly not rejection, to get men. That approach simply isn’t consistent with women’s psycholo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 03:23 PM
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Women don’t want average. That’s not how they are programmed. Nature gave women the power of choosing which man procreates, a simple course in evolutionary biology would’ve told you the Darwinism’s “the strongest/best-suited survive” would have informed you that women look for the strongest/best-suited men...not average men. Nature tends to perform balancing acts when it creates things. Everything that isn’t balanced causes problems. Men are naturally the the pursuers. They are the accepters. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 12:50 PM
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I wasn’t trying to negate your experiences. I was saying that any man fearful of what a woman might think of his sexual performance should realize that a woman who prioritizes such a shallow trait isn’t relationship-material. It’s like a bad pilot not picking you to be on his plane...should you take it personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 12:21 PM
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I look at it like this. There is love, then there’s lust. Lust is high impact, low endurance. Love is low impact, high endurance. Impact is strength minus time. Endurance is strength over time. Lust simply doesn’t have the endurance to fuel a relationship long-term. Usually, once lust runs out, so does one or both of the people in the relationship. Needless to say most relationships today are founded entirely upon lust, and end thusly. If you lose a partner because of sex, you were going to lose…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 10:45 PM
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I’m a part-time model (so I have first hand experience) Some of the other guys in the agency I work for have admitted this, their dm’s are empty Competition for attractive women is so beyond the competition for attractive men, that even if you manage to get one, which I have on numerous occasions, the likelihood of them staying is slim to. One. Basically, most people are only as faithful as their options. Being a “chad”, is actually of no benefit if you aren’t basically a social whore. Women don…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 11:56 AM
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Precisely! 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:00 PM
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Well, if I were a woman... The thing about this situation is that you may have to play mind games with a guy in order to get his attention, yet, is a guy you have to play mind games with worth your attention and a relationship? You have to ask yourself, if the mental development/maturity of a person is such that they require constant “gaming”, manipulation, or other sorts of trickery to engage with, then are they long-term relationship material? If you decide you want this guy so much that you’l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 08:42 PM
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That’s not true. Every guy who is an asshole, including myself, has stories of chasing the girl only to find her with a guy who didn’t chase her and comparably treats her like a p.o.s. You even admitted it, it’s the slow, agonizing, over-analyzing, self-reflective episodes caused by a guy’s ambiguity or complete absence that make a woman obsess over him...because he’s the source of all of her agony and the object of her attention. I remember a study that found women respond better to men whose f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:15 PM
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My bad lol, just trying to explain something to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:05 AM
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Men are more attached to women because for most men, even attractive, tall, decently well—off men, finding a woman is like finding a needle in a sea of haystacks. So most men tend to have ONEitis when one comes around. With women, men are like gnats, there’s too many and they just won’t go away. So a woman is less likely to have that sense of ONEitis. Men and women develop ONEitis for different reasons. Men get ONEitis because of lack of women, and women get ONEitis because of lack of top-tier m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:33 AM
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