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ProgressBad_Routes/r/MensRights21/11/20 01:30 AM
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It's insane how much this sub is infested w morons. It'll be funny in 10 years when this sub still has no motion actual movement will be taking place elsewhere. U guys choose to misunderstand everything that challenges your worldview just like the feminist subs. I'm outta here
/r/MensRights28/10/24 06:53 PM
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Cool bud just stop replying to me
/r/MensRights28/10/24 04:52 PM
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You're being unreasonable. I listed specific names sure I didn't give u a link but that's general information u can find on the internet on gov sites. If we needed niche things like plans for policy I'd link them. U can't even follow your own standard plus u never asked for sources or chose to look up the stuff I talked abt. I'm done w this cringe ass behavior
/r/MensRights28/10/24 01:37 PM
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U should've asked for some like I did, not my fault u didn't think of it🤷🏾‍♂️ I gave u evidence that Kamala gets work done and has a history of trying to do good for the ppl. U however truly showed ZERO evidence. Not one refuting me and none proving why Trump is better as an option.
/r/MensRights28/10/24 03:07 AM
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just how the hell do you not understand that? Bc I'm not u. Duh. DEI puts people in positions at the expense of white men who have done more and are better qualified Not true. DEI is used to prop up POC who are just as qualified and who are typically overlooked bc of racial bias. It doesn't guarantee that they get the job, it makes sure they get a fair chance to be seen. How do u know these yt men are better qualified?🤨 At the end of the day seeing a POC in a line of work rare for them to be see…
/r/MensRights27/10/24 06:44 PM
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Homeless/impoverished ppl, mentally strained individuals etc. But thats where intersectionism comes in bc we have men in any of these communities that can be listed. I don't really try to engage w comparative suffering if I don't have to tho. Now admittedly I was talking more economics class in the OG comment I made but what O said earlier could still apply. Being that there are ppl in the working class who may be struggling, u may be one of them, the economics that she wants to pass will help u…
/r/MensRights27/10/24 05:20 PM
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tbh comments by harris like there are no laws violating mens bodily autonomy also does not help... I agree and that is an education issue. So many things have just been taken for granted that many ppl including u and I accept them w/o question. Is she right for what she said? No. But I can recognize that even if there's certain issues she isn't addressing what she is addressing has substance and as MRA we need to become a force that becomes recognized. Thats just currently how it goes in the wor…
/r/MensRights27/10/24 05:11 PM
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They democrats are actively shitting on white men, I'll take republicans not caring over that any day U would rather take apathy? U do u ig. DEI, BLM, metoo, shitty economics, open borders, and free shit from the government is NOT progress DEI/Affirmative Action has been instrumental in allowing a fairer rate of poc applicants to actively go to good colleges and be allowed to have access to great education. U want it gone? Ban legacy students and remove the racist structure that comes w selectin…
/r/MensRights27/10/24 05:06 PM
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The sub has been infected by a lot of bigots. They think mens rights means returning to how things were or make sure they get as much possible while overlooking the struggles of marginalized groups and intersectionism. Its sad to see I might actually leave bc most of the time it isn't even true ideas on how to support each other and build a strong positive masc environment
/r/MensRights27/10/24 04:43 PM
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You really think numbers from Deep State shills are trustworthy We're done here, if we can't even be on the same reality I'm not gonna discuss smth as simple as policy w u. Let alone economics and how they actually work. But I should take what u are saying seriously along w your zero sources cited, yeah right👋🏾
/r/MensRights27/10/24 04:41 PM
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She has been changing her speeches every few months, each with completely different policy ideals. Each contradicting the others she's made. Give me some examples. U are literally just saying anything rn Meanwhile, what exactly has she done with the position she's had thus far? Nothing. As VP she has assisted in breaking draws on issues that would not have passed had she not intervened i.e the PACT act, CHIPS act, the American Rescue Plan and she helped small unions and multi employer unions by …
/r/MensRights27/10/24 04:35 PM
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So, based on your own logic, why doesn't Harris have a "Questionable Character", when you claim that Trump has one? Again u are making up extra stuff I never said. I never said her character couldn't be questioned. Its the fact that u tied that to her being a Feminist. Trump is a felon and that doesn't make u question him at all? Not his grifting schemes, his bankruptcy records his last term as president? P.S. if you identify as a Feminist, then you definitely do have some Questionable Character…
/r/MensRights27/10/24 04:28 PM
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Are housing prices going to drop??? I'm not an economist but they seem to agree that Harris' economic plans vs what Trump seems to propose is going to cost the country less overall. but now you’re deciding who can or can’t own real estate That distinction needs to be made. Corporate entities should not be considered individual peoples to begin w bc we see what it is causing. The line should stop right before there imo Most things she “wants” to do sounds good. But there are problems with them. U…
/r/MensRights27/10/24 02:43 PM
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Thanks for providing a source? Ik know how to provide sources but I'm letting things progress as it needs too. Most ppl prob won't reply to me after truly understanding my comments so why provide more than necessary 🤷🏾‍♂️
/r/MensRights27/10/24 02:37 PM
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Thanks! I'm making more of a point that ppl who oppose Kamala don't actually know what they are disagreeing against in full. They tend to have snippets
/r/MensRights27/10/24 02:32 PM
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I literally said nothing like that. "Feminist" didn't even appear in my last comment so idk how u formulated that response to a nonexistent claim I made. Being a Feminist in and of itself doesn't mean she have questionable character. Just like u being MRA doesn't mean u have a questionable character. If she does then u do too, basic hypocrisy🤨
/r/MensRights27/10/24 02:27 PM
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This is an odd way to confirm that u don't have any clue of her platform in a basic sense. Her platform page is where u find her claims and from there u are able to refute the right stuff. What u do is seemingly get misrepresented info abt her campaign then make arguments over half true statements. Isn't that tiring Stop claiming that ppl who don't agree w u are brainwashed. Especially if u support Trump like the maga supporters do ✌🏾😂
/r/MensRights27/10/24 02:19 PM
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Because under him no new wars were started, vs disasters wars under Biden which led to supply chain issues world wide This is misleading bc u need to define what starting a war means, if u mean it wasn't officially declared by congress then u are correct. But then it can be applied to Obama and Biden too, and if that's the case then Trump is lying abt being the only president to never start a war/have one during presidency. And if u count i.e Obama expansion into Iraq and Afghanistan then u have…
/r/MensRights27/10/24 02:08 PM
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It is bc he is def the worse candidate. We are currently living under his tax policy and most ppl hate it, but they attribute it to biden for some odd reason. What abt Trump makes him the better candidate? He has little political experience and he has extremely questionable character, most felons can't get a job at McDonalds but ppl want one to run the country. Tell me why he is your choice if he is your choice
/r/MensRights27/10/24 05:13 AM
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I see what you're saying it'll be difficult to have both, but do u prefer for things to remain as they are? It will make the housing market competitive and she wants to enact a plan that stops corporations from buying up houses and using them for renting spaces instead of for families to use know, have a home. Tax breaks are great for starting a business is fine would more in the favor of small businesses be a bad thing in your opinion? I don't know what to say abt the rich avoiding taxes, it's …
/r/MensRights27/10/24 05:02 AM
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Definitely not. Do u think Trump is better?
/r/MensRights27/10/24 04:23 AM
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U made a fake argument then proceeded to have a rant against things I never said. Did u even read the link I posted? That economic layover described how many presidential cycles and policy intermingle. The way u responded says more abt your state of mind and current understanding of politics. Just read what I actually typed and check out the link
/r/MensRights27/10/24 04:19 AM
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Gosh darn dude u have convinced me!
/r/MensRights27/10/24 03:38 AM
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She is investing in us by wanting to give subsidies to small businesses, I can't remember the exact amount but it was either around 5k or 50k. She also has a plan to support first time home buyers which I'm sure we could all agree will be beneficial whether u are young or old. She as VP has broken many votes that would have ended in draws. She's signed off on the American rescue plan, saved pension funds for tons if unions and multi employer pension plans. She helped w the pact act, CHIPS act, h…
/r/MensRights27/10/24 03:37 AM
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Dude I'm asking you for specifics, have u visited her campaign page to actually see what policies she wants to implement? she just rambles about shit Trump does wrong If they are valid then they should be brought to attention. U can't seriously be upset abt Kamalas "rambling" when trump is known for rambling and even worse not having any proper policy and implementation tied to him. He even denies the heritage foundation and project 2025 but has no detailed policies in the books for the ppl to v…
/r/MensRights27/10/24 02:51 AM
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Look at the trend lines on these graphs, Trump didn't do anything to really bolster the economy like Obama did In the link I'm sharing read the last paragraph on the second page: https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/2c298bda-8aee-4923-84a3-95a54f7f6e6f/did-trump-create-or-inherit-the-strong-economy-final.pdf Explain why Obama would say that To answer your question it's more than likely that statement was said bc it's true. Ppl actually undermine Obamas hard work and policy that he had …
/r/MensRights27/10/24 02:44 AM
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Give me some examples u are referring to for Kamala bc she has plans and policies she wants to enact. Trump has concepts of a plan that for whatever reason he doesn't care to divulge other than naming "current issues" but offers little details to the "solutions" he purports
/r/MensRights27/10/24 01:40 AM
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Naw they aren't they are just more abt returning to preexisting archaic rules which will include drafts, mens just suffering in silence, being a sole provider which I. This economy is extremely difficult. They don't even talk abt a proper way to bring the economy back to a state where that would even be possible. Harris is the obvious choice
/r/MensRights27/10/24 01:38 AM
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It took me way too long to find a comment like yours, but u are right! Even tho Harris doesn't speak up on mens rights she has good political experience and has policies that ppl can look at and support while understanding her ideas more clearly. Trump doesn't. He denies being part of heritage foundation and project 2025, and w/o those he basically has little to know direction for his policies
/r/MensRights27/10/24 01:36 AM
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Agreed
/r/MensRights27/10/24 01:27 AM
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This is trash and will hurt us further as men AND women
/r/MensRights27/10/24 01:27 AM
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Thats not true at all, just bc he doesnt speak out against mens rights doesnt mean he won't make things worse. I think Kamala is the better option bc she has plans that benefits the working class, on top of that we WILL benefit just not from our gender but we can still work locally to achieve the equity we are seeking
/r/MensRights27/10/24 01:26 AM
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He inherited Obamas economy. The funny part is that we are currently living under Trumps tax policies from his presidency bc they don't expire until 2025. So u actually like Obama economy vs Trumps current economic policies that we are suffering from. Does that change your perspective at all?
/r/MensRights27/10/24 01:24 AM
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Trumps barely had any actual policies talked abt by him or elaborated. The heritage foundation has stuff but he constantly denies any doing/affiliation w then and project 2025. So what actual policies and details in those policies make u want to to vote for him. I don't think the reason of "he doesn't support things I don't like" is enough.
/r/MensRights27/10/24 01:21 AM
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I agree, mens rights is too far removed as of now to base our decisions on which party will act in that niche interest. But I believe Harris actually has good policy in mind thst will have me vote for her. Who are u voting for?
/r/MensRights27/10/24 01:16 AM
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I would still say Harris is the better option of the two. The baseline is true, both parties do not care but Harris campaigns at least have feasi le acts that are for the betterment of our class and those in a lower one
/r/MensRights27/10/24 01:14 AM
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Which is why I'm voting for Harris. Not bc she's a Democrat but bc she has better plans and actual policies than Trump. I don't like either but u can't pretend that one isn't way worse than the other, and Trump is def worse
/r/MensRights27/10/24 01:12 AM
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Yeah right. Thinking Republicans care abt mens rights when they seem to care more abt returning things to how they were vs actually making meaningful progress in a modern world is crazy thinking
/r/MensRights27/10/24 01:10 AM
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Right there are so many issues to list. Do u guys have groups for blk men in your area so u can work w them and find community?
/r/MensRights21/10/24 06:58 PM
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She is a foil character, but she's not a villain. Having opposing traits CAN make u a villain but not always the case
/r/MensRights17/10/24 07:30 PM
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Definitely not a villain
/r/MensRights17/10/24 07:19 PM
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Well she's not a villain so...
/r/MensRights17/10/24 07:18 PM
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THE most valid take here. How is this poorly made post abt how "women mean 😢" a part of mens rights legitimately. Posting abt how Hughie was abused for laughs is actually valid, this is not.
/r/MensRights17/10/24 07:17 PM
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She fr isn't a villain. Like ppl can do things u don't like and not be villains
/r/MensRights17/10/24 07:14 PM
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Be fuckin for real, all your "solutions" consist on running away from problems blk ppl shouldn't have to deal w anyway. Keep your lackluster problem solving to yourself
/r/MensRights11/08/24 01:44 PM
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He shouldn't have to change schools based on other ppls ignorance and unwillingness to unlearn bad practices. What if the next school is similar and won't allow a transfer? The answer to sexism, racism etc shouldn't be to let ppl continue on w it. Why is that the solution instead of actually getting ppl to stop being racist or sexist 🤔
/r/MensRights11/08/24 12:32 PM
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It definitely is a race issue, the statements abt the administration saying it's to teach respect to authority and proper grooming is drenched in racial undertones. Assuming that black hairstyles like locs, wicks, etc are inherently unhygienic is ridiculous and comes from yt supremacist/racist talking points
/r/MensRights11/08/24 12:29 PM
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I appreciate taking the time to respond and oblige to my request. I won't bombard u w/ a crazy info dump bc it seems like u already have your mind made up but I will touch on your points succinctly. still, you requested tone policing. i don't care how it reflect on us, and neither should you, wich is my point. i can't talk for other people, i'm color blind, but got told thats racist as well. however, as legitimate as racism is, it's not a mens right issue. hence i want to keep this a mens right …
/r/MensRights10/08/24 05:58 PM
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tone policing people because you're afraid of how it reflects on you is stupid. I'm not tone policing for this reason. I'm doing it bc it reflects on u guys poorly when u use similar rhetoric as racist ppl and I want everyone to be educated on being nuanced of being a yt guy in the world or being a blk/poc in the world. Can u tell me that ppl aren't treated differently bc of their skin color? How the present physically as a gender? DEI is cancer. and it's not black hate. it's woke hate. learn th…
/r/MensRights10/08/24 04:17 PM
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It isn't bs in the second half. Could it be misplaced in the convo? Sure. I can guarantee u have nothing to refute what I said in the second half of my comment. Being able to learn abt intersections that make these cases more nuanced is important. I can give real life examples of ppl on the internet referencing blk ppl as "dei" workers when in positions yt supremacists don't believe they should have. Furthermore mens rights subs is very far behind bc many of these guys from what I've seen can't …
/r/MensRights10/08/24 12:27 PM
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I gotta pop in at least once in a while. If mens rights activists think they can make it through w/o taking intersectionality of race and white supremacy into account they are dead wrong. But I hear u sometimes I believe it's worth saying the thing even if ppl don't understand it right away
/r/MensRights10/08/24 12:14 PM
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The case has racial undertones in nature... Its shown throughout history that blk ppls hair styles are a point of contention for every other race involved bc of the propaganda and disenfranchising of our specific group of ppl. We have always been targeted for the most miniscule "infractions" on society. There is plenty of evidence that supports this along w many other laws to make it difficult for blk ppl to exist in social spaces. This is why I encourage u guys to stop using terms like "woke" a…
/r/MensRights09/08/24 10:32 PM
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This is not a progressive ideology we need to label things correctly to get the point across properly. This is overly corrective bc it's just doing what they believe men did to women but in the opposite direction. Labeling it as progressive ideology hurts true progressive ideology that is meant to be a new path and way to explore things. That being said I agree w your points and they deserve to lose for hating on dudes to such a weird degree especially since they kinda need men in order for thei…
/r/MensRights09/08/24 04:33 PM
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This is why we don't demonize the otherside and label them as the 'enemy' first of all its retarded to do that, secondly thats bad circular reasoning. All I will say is thst we need to move away from using terms like "woke ideology" and "dei" as bad things bc they are rooted in incorrect report/representation Nice job OP!
/r/MensRights05/08/24 05:53 PM
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Yeah actively referring to them as the enemy when all anyone wants is to be heard, not marginalized, and have great companionship shows that u aren't mentally ready to have productive conversations w feminists let alone women dude.
/r/MensRights03/08/24 06:25 PM
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U guys need to actually focus your energy on shit that actually matters. U are grown men hating on a little girls t-shirt, ik I sound like a dick but bffr. The way to move forward in mens rights is to liberate ourselves to the point our positivity is infectious and overflows to other intersectionalities of issues and oppression
/r/MensRights03/08/24 04:18 PM
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Yeah no. There's a couple things wrong w this. Imagine that murder was legal for a moment This is alluding that abortion had always been legal or socially accepted and needed to be "stomped out". This is very untrue. Imagine further, that someone wants to outlaw murder. Then someone that wants murder to remain legal says “by not allowing me to murder other people, you’re forcing your opinion upon me. You don’t even care about my victims, you just want to control me.” This is a bad comparison bc …
/r/MensRights03/08/24 04:02 PM
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Men's Rights doesn't actually have any benchmarks. Being able to have a framework with benchmarks is required. I agree. But we can look at what is being done, said, or going unsaid and build a framework from what is fair to both sides w/o needing to "own/clown feminists" this ideal isn't coming from a place of moral superiority but energy direction
/r/MensRights03/08/24 03:41 PM
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Okay, for u personally yes.. I am coming from the assumption that since u are prolife that u vote for prolife legislation/policies. If u don't vote for prolife based legislation then u can continue to ignore me and I'll admit I'm the asshat. BUT if u do vote for prolife legislation then u are in fact forcing your way of life onto others unnecessarily through democratic means
/r/MensRights03/08/24 03:38 PM
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And yet we can move through a new deal of mens rights w/o mentioning them all the time. Talking abt our rights in relation to reality and partners whether they are women, men or anywhere in between is the real play
/r/MensRights03/08/24 03:35 PM
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Yeah this is def the wrong answer
/r/MensRights29/07/24 02:07 AM
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That's u forcing your specific worldview onto others. Not everyone will feel or behave that way and women deserve to have a choice especially since in this country the safety nets are non existent/convoluted to utilize
/r/MensRights29/07/24 02:05 AM
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Naw it's not a child, plus if they do it before a certain point it shouldn't matter
/r/MensRights29/07/24 02:03 AM
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Cool for u but thats an unrealistic standard. Better to prevent the pregnancy outright. But I'm def pro choice
/r/MensRights29/07/24 01:56 AM
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It's impossible for the man to have any say whether the pregnancy is terminated or not. The point needs to be conceded but what should be emphasized is that men should be able to opt out of parenthood. I just don't know if men should support through pregnancy in that scenario bc of legal troubles etc
/r/MensRights29/07/24 01:54 AM
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The most responsible thing is to recognize that u can't care for the kid. Not saying abortion is the only choice but I am pro choice bc women should have the choice. Prolife is literally forcing your views onto others that have nothing to do w u imo
/r/MensRights29/07/24 01:46 AM
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Women should have the choice to abort or not, the man at the other end can't force her to carry to term but he should be able to appeal and if the women is willing then she can carry to full term. In the other end men should also be able to opt out of fatherhood if the woman decides to keep the child despite the man expressing he doesn't want to be a father
/r/MensRights29/07/24 01:43 AM
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Theres no need to bring up feminists here dude. If we actually want mens rights to be something we need to stop bringing up feminism when it doesn't need to be mentioned. I'm saying this bc mens rights deserve to be taken seriously w/o needing to be compared to other liberation movements
/r/MensRights29/07/24 01:40 AM
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This take is absolutely garbage.
/r/MensRights28/07/24 04:34 AM
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Dei and "wokeness" aren't the problems that many ppl especially yt men think it is. There are compliance rules for DEI and when it isn't being used properly companies should be reported for it, Americans love to say they want a meritocracy but history reveals time and time again that when left to their own devices yt applicants are always selected whether on purpose or not. This is why despite affirmative actions(AA) removal the acceptance of asian students into Ivy League schools has risen a ne…
/r/MensRights26/07/24 09:00 PM
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Dude it's like a dance take it step by step. Imma be real w u and say drop the whole "betraying yourself" bs, reasonable women don't want their man to be a slave either. U viewing actions of love for a partner to feel desired is the same shit feminazis say abt cooking and cleaning for their man etc. Drop the stupid terminology like chads, betas, alphas blah blah blah. It is super unattractive and it makes me avoid dudes bc they don't make good friends, in my experience they are miserable they on…
/r/MensRights14/07/24 02:12 PM
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Men are shown to be victims of kidnapping on camera and w your infinitesimally small amount of empathy decide that victim blaming is appropriate bc of gender😂💀. U are mentally sick and revealed that u are a major league projector throwing it out randomly like that. This convo is already boring me, don't bother replying
/r/MensRights13/07/24 10:34 PM
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Lack of nuance and understanding is cringe, u must love being loud and wrong
/r/MensRights13/07/24 08:48 PM
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No DEI is not a cancer that u guys claim it to be
/r/MensRights12/07/24 03:21 AM
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Yeah thats not DEIs fault those ppl were just pos. DEI os a good idea that actually helps stop typical workplace harassment. And like any idea some take it to far or just abuse ppl on the name of the movement.
/r/MensRights12/07/24 03:20 AM
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U guys need to realize that going into a conversation abt womens issues to I ly bring up male issues is ridiculous to do. Just as it would be in vice-versa. What was the topic of that whole thread?
/r/MensRights03/02/24 02:24 PM
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Ye
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 06:38 PM
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Selective hearing much? You are literally avoiding decent advice
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 06:37 PM
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Really? Tiktok conversation topics? Guysbthis isn't even worth posting. And I mean this with as much respect to the sub as possible, this is ridiculous
/r/MensRights15/09/21 04:56 PM
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The other two I need to hear some specific examples. “General faith in women’s moral superiority.” GMAFB When a woman and man are in an altercation the man is always held back, accused and/removed from the premises despite what actually happened. Treating men as potential pedophiles around kids when they are in a public area with kids. I’m also curious what “rape claim cases” and “fake pregnancies” means. It's how it sounds, because of the me too movement a lot of women use courts to get back at…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 03:54 AM
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I was giving you examples on hypergamy. If you go to any forum where men are free to speak their minds like MRA then you'll see many instances of women not being persecuted despite being aggressors, sexual assaulters or perpetrators. Lighter sentences for women who commit the same crime as men, general distrust of men in society and general faith in women's moral superiority in society. There is a lot, especially with rape claim cases and fake pregnancies that are becoming to common among people…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:21 PM
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Think about it like this, if a guy hits a ckllege girl up on insta and he is a rich recognized person the girl is most likely going to choose that guy over the boy next door who currently works on CVS. It's the experiences and lifestyle the girls see and make decisions off of. Hypergamy is that but women just keep doing it like she's trading game tickets to see whats the best she can get instead of placing an end to it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:00 PM
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So then from your original comment are you saying a women investing in finding a good man is or isn't worth it? Whats your stance?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 09:10 PM
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But most college attendees now are women, so why are they still getting jobs and not careers exactly? This CMV post is arguingbin bad faith of men because it goes off assumed implications and favors outlier percentages to rule the person judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 01:11 PM
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This right here is very accurate
/r/MensRights11/09/21 01:00 PM
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It's okay, not a lot of people can handle the truth
/r/MensRights04/09/21 10:43 PM
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This guy knows^
/r/MensRights04/09/21 07:49 PM
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The poster never asked why there is a difference
/r/MensRights22/08/21 10:33 PM
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Okay I see what you mean, but you are extrapolating context that isn't confirmed. I'm solely going off the post because giving your own context to the situation is point less. You even said there is no context to what was being discussed prior and then placed a beneficial viewpoint for your argument in this conversation yourself. I'll also reply to your other two comments in this as well. Yes I can agree that this is a mans world. And I can agree that the way OP used his stance is what caused hi…
/r/MensRights22/08/21 09:56 PM
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If the consequences are the issue, wouldn't this message of "people shouldn't be hitting people" be most effective? Because it teaches respect to both sides so it should mitigate men hitting women regardless. So why be against it?
/r/MensRights22/08/21 09:41 PM
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The weakness of men came from a combination of factors but I still agree with the other guy as well. A lot of people will focus on one side of the issue instead of actually acknowledging both avenues when it is quite easy. Men shouldn't hit women, but why is the other statement so hard to follow through with saying and acting upon. I'm curious to hear your view
/r/MensRights22/08/21 09:35 PM
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Both genders feel this way, i personally don't have this feeling when it comes to gender its more from skill and knowledge. The more I don't know, the more nervous I get if the task is specialized and a supervisor is watching
/r/MensRights22/08/21 05:27 PM
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You are reaching far dude. How did you pull this from that post?
/r/MensRights14/08/21 02:05 PM
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I'm failing to understand what place these comments you're making have in this overall thread
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:50 PM
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I find it very hard to believe that you've found a high number of men who prefer to have their gf/wife stay at home and cook and clean despite their current economic status
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:26 PM
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I think his overall argument is that women making more money than men hurts the dating market more than it helps. A lot of women work but they want to stop working, and them earning high amounts of money makes it hard for them to look at men who make less than them for a serious relationship. Because when a man brings in any amount of money he shares it with the spouse when a woman brings in more money she isn't expected to share it like a man does and doesn't experience social pressures in that…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:11 PM
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I mentioned mowing the lawn and car costs a lot because they are things that men typically will take care of that women don't do. But the decision to maintain this work affects the women is your example with management of pocket books or just having transportation. But it is not limited to cars and lawn mowing. What I'm trying to say is that your partner should not be actively making things more difficult for you i.e throwing clothes on the ground or not doing dishes when they see them piled up,…
/r/MensRights10/07/21 01:19 AM
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Some of the issues we're seeing here in regards to emotional labor is its invisible and outright dismissal. Take for example OP post, the idea that "planning stuff" is framed as not really work. When it most certainly is, we literally have whole occupations for this, secretaries. So when these issues are brought up and discussed it is important to realize, it's not just about the work being unequal, it that the work is unequal, and we don't even realize how unequal it is. I can see what you're s…
/r/MensRights07/07/21 04:09 PM
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And I think you get that, but I think it's important the the misuse of a concept by people does not invalidate the concept as a whole. I agree with this, but I would like to clarify that because the concept gets misused a lot it is something that deserves to be placed under a critical lense and people should be willing to explore this when someone does believe something is unfair to their situation. So calling out the difference is important and people need to look at it more objectively than th…
/r/MensRights05/07/21 05:30 PM
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Not some cases, not a cricism that feminist ideas can be SOMETIMES be used a defense for abuse. No He says ALL. This is true that was my bad Really look at what your doing, your making up a hyper specific situation, one where not only is there no children, and the women doesn't work I will not agree or disagree about the situation being hyper specific, but this is a common enough occurrence to talk about. OP is talking about when a lot of relationships fail between men and women, the woman will …
/r/MensRights05/07/21 04:07 PM
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And here in the comment section is someone still adding nothing of value to the conversation. Stay mad haha
/r/MensRights05/07/21 02:14 AM
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He laid out a specific scenario that is seen to often in the household. If it didn't happen as much then it would be a different story. But a lot of the times men work a lot of hours and if the women choose to that is fine but someone has to lose hours when it comes to the kids and it is typically the woman who does because if they have kids then they want to be with them. Now in this scenario there are no kids but OP is highlighting an issue with woman who have a high standard of expectations f…
/r/MensRights05/07/21 01:11 AM
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LMAO! stay mad. Guy brings up good points, what exactly are you protesting?
/r/MensRights05/07/21 01:01 AM
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I saw this video a while ago. I'm pretty sure their YouTube channel is called TheRoomates and they put out great content to help men become better but also explain the faults of women and men fairly and in an unbiased not condescending matter. I agree with many of these points and they do give me a type of way to navigate life through self reflection. I understand I can't necessarily change these outside thing by myself but I can definitely make myself better. My dad never could explain this stu…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre03/07/21 11:20 PM
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I feel it is dehumanizing It doesn't matter how you feel, words mean things so use the correct words. It's a simple concept I am struggling to think of a situation in which that wouldn’t be a giant red flag. It is a red flag, I never said otherwise. I think you are equalizing me correcting you're usage of the wrong words with supporting being blunt, rude or an asshole. If you don't want to be around assholes that's fine. Just use the write words. Dehumanizing =/= rude
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 01:02 AM
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I didn’t say I’d assault him Thats my fault there was a person in the comments with the same stance as you and said OP had it coming. You did set the wrong tone though, dehumanization is legitimately way worse than saying you won't date fat chick's and single moms in your bio, so that was the incorrect usage which prompted me to message you. If you said it was rude blunt etcetera then I'd agree and be on my way because that would be the appropriate level
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 11:46 PM
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I read through the articles Anyway here’s a semi recent article with links that do backup women are less worried about finding a life partner to complete them than men. Very common among women I know, myself included. That study did not lead to that conclusion. The article is saying about 25 percent of Australian women between the ages of 35 and 65 are happy. These are women who typically don't get asked out anymore by men so its not just because they stopped looking 35 is the typical age that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 11:42 PM
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Lmao so women can say their version with no impunity but if men state their preference in a blunt manner they deserve to be sexually assaulted. Get bent
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:21 PM
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You could say it's cruel, just not dehumanizing. This whole thing started because you used the incorrect words and sent the wrong picture so I challenged you on it. I agree having that on a profile is crude. Not worth being assaulted for wtf is that logic
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:16 PM
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Because they are still people just not people he will date. So they are treated rudely by a human standard that isn't considered cruel and unusual, now having someone shit in a litter box, that can be an example of dehumanization because you are forcing a person to act in a degrading way not typical to a standard average human. Rude =/= dehumanization
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:07 PM
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He showed her a profile that had his preferences on it. He didn't say it to someone who didn't ask for his opinion or gave unsolicited preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:01 PM
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It is simple but you don't get it. Dehumanize is to treat someone less than human. Saying no fat chick's and no single moms is rude, crude, blunt etc. Learn some vocabulary
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:00 PM
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Your response is that because you are over inflating ops terms on his profile. He was never dehumanizing women. To bad you can't answer a simple question
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:35 PM
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To be sexually assaulted after disclosing tinder dating preference? You're trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:26 PM
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How is saying no fat chick's or single moms dehumanizing? That may be considered rude but it's not dehumanizing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:25 PM
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Correction a lot of men are choosing to not date or marry women. And women refuse to pick available men, and can't get the guys they truly want to pick them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:09 PM
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1 He had it on his tinder profile 2 that warrants being sexually assaulted?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:03 PM
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Are you talking about the part that says "no fat chicks or single mothers?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:59 PM
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That makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:54 PM
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Because I don't want to argue/talk to you. It's like pulling teeth
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:16 PM
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Actually yeah you're right I reread it a couple times. I thought your question came out of nowhere but it makes sense why you applied it to the previous comment
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:15 PM
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That was a very disingenuous question
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:09 PM
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Ah yes the "didn't see it didn't happen" approach why would I just single you out if I don't have actual examples or recounts of what happened? Make that make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:07 PM
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Nothing wrong with asking for a source. That's not what my comment is stating
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:05 PM
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I've spoken to you multiple times on many subjects. Everytime I bring up facts, extrapolate your data, or general critical thinking you try to move the goal post. I don't have to read anything from you because your past activity has rendered you incompetent in an argumentative setting, don't believe me? Reread your replies to the other people
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:26 PM
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Don't argue with u/cowfisharereal they do not care to understand they only want to reply. I've extensively messaged them and they are unwilling to change their pov and are unable to extrapolate the simplest amounts of data from a males perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:23 PM
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Critical thinking should always be #1 as an adult. Of course but sadly it is not common because it isn't taught. If what comes natural for a person is stalking and harassing someone after being rejected then that person deserves to be reprimanded This is true but isn't the norm. That is a bad faith argument people bring up in order to excuse their side. Most men aren't stalkers, sexual assaulters, rapists etcetera but it is the most common argument to bring up. Men are told women(in general) wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:03 AM
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For example one of them being that girls measure themselves up to models and destroy their own mental healths over it. Thats not a unique problem. While the issues lie on both ends there is a significant amount of bs to deal with on the males side from women. Men also deal with body positivity issues in order to look as cut and lean as possible. However both of these things are easily fixable and it is not entirely one genders fault or the other. Companies use these as marketing tools
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:53 PM
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Okay this is a lot but I will keep it concise as to not lose out main point because you typed a decent amount. But couldn't the solution to this just be for men to like think for themselves and stop expecting things? Not when women including boys mothers raise them to be this way. Most kids are coming from single mother homes and boys in mass are being taught without a masculine side to balance a woman's perspective. We need to stop feeding bs for starters and then introduce critical thinking, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:06 PM
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So I guess you actually don't care about having a conversation...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:42 PM
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I know in my other comment I said I don't argue with women... this is why. But seeing that this is so ridiculous I will try to explain how this view is incorrect. Why do you belive that men do not care about women at all? Men risk death saving people day in and out more than women at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:45 PM
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I like that word "rat-schlag". Thats what the word "advice" translates to?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:49 PM
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Just to be clear this conversation is specifically about sex/relationships right? Yes we are. Now to address what you asked in order on the first paragraph; men are being taught that they should like and respect women no matter the situation; they shouldn't care about sexual pasts; women will like them unconditionally and that they should like strong career women even though it typically isn't our preference. The expectation that you should be nice to all women all the time listen to what they s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:47 PM
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Yeah I know I'm just trying to preface for anyone who will get triggered
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:31 PM
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Exactly that's why I stopped arguing with women. I'm just doing my thing now and I tell them whats up. If they want to listen that's up to them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:59 PM
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It's weird too, a lot of women aren't even getting what they mainly want/need out of this but they'd rather continue on this path and teach others to be that way
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:19 PM
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To start off, men in general are viewed being at the bottom of society. Because of a lot of propaganda being played it really sets the tone on how to treat men in modern times. Men are frustrated, all of them are being taught things that don't line up with reality and their expectations aren't being met to a high degree. This means that the information is false and leads to an uncomfortable amount of cognitive dissonance. I will start off with few points and once we can agree we can move on to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:17 PM
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Yeah at the risk of sounding sexist or whatever I just stopped arguing with women in general. Everytime I have a discussion it's the same responses across the board "can we not want what we want?" "thats incel logic" "but for me it is different because..." "these stats don't apply to everyone" "some people might like so-and-so". And don't get me wrong I see angry dudes in the comments, but a lot of the women do not care or listen in a constructive way to actually solve the issue it's just to jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:11 PM
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It's not that their attraction works different its that there are things that people should be willing to curve in their attraction to at least give themselves a chance to get with someone
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 06:09 PM
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Nothing thats what I've been saying. You shouldn't initially stop seeing someone just because they don't have all of these qualities when you are still getting to know them. The reason I give this type of advice is because a majority of people won't find that "perfect" relationship. So I need to say what will work for a lot of people vs a few
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 05:58 PM
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Because being emotionally and financially stable are good points, so we agree on those. Why would I call out actually sound points? Those are initial things that you should check for to let someone on your radar. The guy doesn't need to make 120k a year but he need to have his finances in order and be able to have a long term plan. That is a good partner. Being emotionally stable is good because it shows that he takes time to discipline himself on his emotions to not let himself get overwhelmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 02:57 PM
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If there's a complete lack of it, it's a deep problem that most likely would cause a break up Being able to open up like this is very difficult for men, you said in another comment that you aren't demanding it but it causes a risk of break up if he won't open up to you? Thats being demanding of his personal feelings. For me the ability to share the vulnerability is similar to the ability to have sex Yes and no, guys should/will vent to their close guy friends because of how male feelings are tre…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 02:51 PM
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It is if I find it so You keep saying this, so then why argue if this is all you'll say. You say that, then I say it's not as important here is why, then you say that again. That's not even an argument so idk why your posting if your final statement comes down to "if I want it that's that", I can't speak against that because I can't make you not think that if thats your conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 02:44 PM
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I'm saying that a lot of the things you've listed that you need to have in a partner isn't as important as you think in order to have a strong marriage with someone. Having someone with the same interests is fine and I encourage it, it's just to ignore people who don't have similar interests in you from the get go is where I think a lot of people go wrong And, well, my method has worked for me, I'm not sure why you keep saying that I should change it. So then you're married?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 02:38 PM
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Sex is great, but it shouldn't be the only thing you can enjoy doing together. That's my point. There must be something else besides sex, chores and obligations. Yes, very true. But these are things that come after selecting someone for the proper reasons like being able to provide a decent income and being a stable person. Choosing someone because they like art but they lack core qualities of a good partner initially isn't smart
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 02:44 AM
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The reason I'm saying it's not important is that it doesn't add to the part of the relationship that is building with someone. Maybe I'm not explaining this correctly. Initially in a partner they need to have a level of performance thats adequate they don't have to be super rich or anything but they must be able to perform well in whats Initially important in a relationship and eventually a marriage. A guy who likes art and is willing to be vulnerable is a nice plus to have but is not initially …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 02:33 AM
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It's not important to maintaining a long term relationship. It's possible to supplement that lack of sensitivity to art from your partner to a friends group, he doesn't have to have those things to make a relationship work. Those are just nice bonuses to have in a person
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 01:55 AM
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Thats not true, you build companionship through time and understanding as well as being able to keep your part of the relationship on track when you guys solidify you roles. I'm not saying you guys only need to have values, what I'm saying is that you need to break your partner search down to basic competence and then go through some things that you'd want for your partner to have in common with you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 01:51 AM
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Because you are talking about you. I'm talking about OP and a lot of womens standards. You list important things like being on the same page about kids and things while you seem to be deep in a relationship. Op is listing things you should have before you get to know her. We aren't even having a similar convo because when I mention OP you bring it to you and the conversation derails itself
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 06:59 PM
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Companionship is important but that is what comes after finding a man with decent core values and being able to bring things to the table that you need
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:40 PM
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You're implying that some points of my list shouldn't matter to me. Correct because having someone who likes art like you from their own personal interest is nice, but it is not important to finding a husband with their priorities in order.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:39 PM
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But everyone has base expectations that should be met. You needs to find someone who can do things that you may not want to do so you need to compensate for that by bringing something of value to them. Example: I can cook very well but I hate cooking so a preference is a girl who can cook, so if I have two girls who I like and like me they both have my core values in a partner, but one can cook and rhe other can't I will go with the one who can cook. I think the core issue here is that you view …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:38 PM
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Because they would provide compatibility, reduce the amount of tension and arguing and guarantee that you have ways to spend time together Marriage isn't fun, it is work. Thats what people don't understand. They think it needs to be fun all rhe time but it is a lot of maintenance. Thats not to say you can't find things to do together, because being able to maintain attractiveness is important but for your initial NEEDS from a partner a lot of these things aren't necessary. Arguing will happen it…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:28 PM
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ability to be vulnerable and bear the other person's vulnerability isn't important for long-term relationships? I didn't say bearing the partners vulnerability is bad, but you are demanding someone be vulnerable around you. That's something you earn from a man, that means in his lowest he is able to trust you with his feelings but most guys won't do it for good reason. That's for your close male friends not a gf. By being into art I mean being receptive, sensitive towards beauty. Just to have th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:22 PM
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And that is okay
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:14 PM
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We don't care if a majority of guys have these traits. Why would that be relevant? My standards are for my happiness, not the happiness of others It's relevant because that's what we're talking about? The actual post. If op didn't care why would she list them. I'm glad you have standards everyone should, that way people can be held to a degree of performance and accountability. I don't think every man wants the same things, so to generalize is a waste of time I hear this from women all the time,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:47 AM
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The best way I can answer is that we don't need to be compatible on every thing. If she meets my core values in what I want in a woman I will work out preferences that I'm willing to accept during the dating/relationship period. Being 100% compatible in a standard relationship is an unrealistic expectation that you are setting for yourself and sadly most man won't reach them. As long as they have good qualities in many areas they don't need them in all i.e emotional stability, not racist is impo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:01 AM
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That depends on what kind of men you are dealing with. The reason I say male perspective is because these are laundry lists of what a girl wants from a guy off the jump and no mam will have all these qualities in mass. Before I get into your reasons I just have a couple questions. What do men want from a woman? And what kind of men were you seeing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:56 AM
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Okay, so then can you tell me the thought process of why you think all of the things you listed matter in finding a partner and maintaining the foundation of the relationship to the end of your natural lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:50 AM
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Caring about the environment, being religious but that depends on the "religion", showing vulnerability, being in similar hobbies/interests, in a good mood most of the time, in touch with feelings, likes art, patience to my quirks. Using these as qualifiers that the man should have reduces the pool you will actually let approach you, especially with the decreased attention span that people have nowadays. The family is something I wanted to add but it is in a weird spot of making sense but also n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:47 AM
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Yes peoplw use them interchangeably to the point rhagbit kind of blends
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:37 AM
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I already understand this. We are getting too specific now. All I'm saying is that people should first look at what they bring to their partners and vice versa, once they check those boxes then move to the next category, looking for compatible people is good. But looking for compatibility comes after understanding that persons value to you What does basic duties as a husband mean? That depends on if you want a traditional marriage or something more modern.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:34 AM
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What haven't you experienced? And are you married?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:29 AM
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This is a whole mess. I won't speak on the first paragraph because I have no knowledge on that so I will research this. Kevin Samuel’s is a narcissistic bully who vilifies low self esteem and naive women whom he knows have usually had low standards to begin with and dehumanises them with advice such as remaining with a physically abusive husband and always having sex before date three . I've watched many videos of his, there are a handful of situations where he tell a woman to get back to her hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:28 AM
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Good to know
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:18 AM
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It's your opinion that it's a small reason Yes and water makes things wet. Of course this is my opinion, we're on a sub asking us for it. I don't understand trying to write off what I said with that statement. Sure you don't care about finding a partner but a majority of people are, thats why when I talk and give me two sense I say my piece but give specific answers for the majority. Most people need basic advice to work with then once they find what works they'll add their spin to it. I have no…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:17 AM
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I'm not saying you can't find someone who has similar hobbies I'm saying you shouldn't write someone off just because they don't have similar hobbies, what I'm saying is different from how people are interpreting it. I suppose for me the equivalent is I need a guy who has an appreciation for nature because of the amount of time I spend walking in parks, hiking, swimming and fishing This is where the compromise um talking about comes in. As long as your SO fills his basic duties as a husband does…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:07 AM
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Being a piece of shit is a characteristic. A lot of what a person considers value or valuable is what makes them yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:01 AM
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Not really because when you understand values you understand what you should look for in a potential partner then start to get picky and work with them once they have met basic requirements
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:59 AM
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I think we have different definitions of the word "value", what does it mean to you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:57 AM
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I would say no more than five or six
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:25 AM
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Thats important but a relationship needs a foundation first and then you can choose what to bond over.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:11 AM
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Having specific interests in art, kinks, hobbies, super environmentally friendly(?). Not saying the last one is bad initially bit that was a weird thing to mention
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:09 AM
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You are correct on the things that you mentioned but a lot of what the girl did mention wasn't important. You listed reasonable things that you see after you find that a person meets core requirements. She listed things like art and hobbies as well, those are not important. Those character traits are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:07 AM
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Thats not even the point of what I said. Men aren't obligated to a woman's interest, but what the girl says is important to gaining her attention is off and doesn't show case what is actually important to first finding someone who you are interested in through their value then whittling down the options. It just seems like off rip you won't date a guy for a small reason
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:05 AM
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Right okay I won't disagree but why would that be one of the reasons to not date someone just because they have different hobbies. Thats not saying that people shouldn't take interest in their SOs hobbies or whether or not to people shouldn't have hobbies they most certainly should. To reiterate in a more concise way, why would you shut out a man just because your hobbies are different thats weird
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:01 AM
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I'm just speculating off of what was said. Thats realistic yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:58 AM
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So is she only going to date bakers? What if the man only bakes for his profession but doesn't care to experiment on his down time? Even if she does find this baker, what value as a man does he bring, because I know she's not only going to date him because he's a baker
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:57 AM
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Exactly a lot of what she mentioned isn't even values or valuable. It's characteristics and personality/interests. Those aren't values.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:32 AM
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I feel like we both have a different set of definitions for the word values, in it's most pure basic form. A lot of what she mentioned isn't even core values of what you should look for in a person. Men should bother
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:29 AM
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I'm not understanding your question
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:51 PM
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You aren't losing. If you have a stable relationship with your husband but he doesn't enjoy baking but you do, join a baking group. You can substitute that with your friends and still love him even though he does his own thing. That's how marriages have longevity. When did having a stable relationship with another person with their own interests become losing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:49 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:44 PM
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It isn't unfair. Because if a man doesn't have one or two of these qualities he has been vetted and is out of the picture. Some of these things don't matter when it comes to raising a family and finding a decent partner because there will be downs to every person. I'm sure if you were asked to list some things you would want in a relationship there would be attributes that you want but would be willing to compromise on? Yes there is a simple core of things that I'd want to be present in a gf, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:43 PM
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While I agree for the first part of finding someone not misogynistic/misandristic or homophobic etc there will be somethings that you guys don't agree upon. These things are easy to list but come by very infrequently in terms of actually finding a partner. Had these people existed in mass without something making them less perfect in your eyes then most people wouldn't be having these issues in dating it just wouldn't happen
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:35 PM
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One was needing to have the same hobbies, that doesn't matter too much in having a good marriage. Being able to compensate in other ways is possible if you guys like to do separate things
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:29 PM
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Exactly, its unrealistic to think that you and your partner have to see eye-to-eye on every subject, some things aren't even that important
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:27 PM
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I'm not saying that you can't find a guy with those qualities. It's unrealistic advice to say to the majority of people that they should look for that specific type of guy. Don't get me wrong men like that do exist, men like you described can exist but how likely is it that you run into this person even in a high traffic city? There's compromise that comes into play, compatability is important on things you think shouldn't be compromisable and then whats on the back burner can be how you lead yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:25 PM
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Some of these things aren't important and some are super vague to the point that it is unrealistic for a man to try and gauge what he can do to meet these standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:56 AM
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You've said a lot but I'd definitely have to disagree with the take on Kevin Samuels. The reasoning behind this being he focuses more on the black community and the woman's reactions alone spread through the community of women as a whole. These types of demands to have in a man is very common to run into.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:54 AM
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Thats making the list super basic, you boiled it down to be more palatable. In reality what men are seeing is if we can't agree on everything that she has listed then you shouldn't even bother. On top of that most of the things listed aren't even conducive to a good relationship and maintaining it long term. Another thing to add is that getting married is about helping each other, I'm never going to expect the world from my wife (if I choose to get married) but I will expect her to be competent …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:50 AM
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There's no serious study on this type of thing yet but if you've met women and had a conversation with them/see who they date, the men tend to be older than the women and that isn't a coincidence
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 12:47 PM
3

Damn this was the stupidest thing you could have said
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:36 PM
2

Yay!
/r/MensRights16/05/21 12:18 AM
2

Explain the delusion and the misogyny. I truly am not seeing the point being made here.
/r/MensRights14/05/21 04:24 AM
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That doesn't make it misogyny. Ellen happens to be a woman. When men were being canceled or attempt in being canceled did you think that the people were misandrists? The point I'm making is that no one is hating on her because she's a woman, and stating that the sub exists for that reason alone is very shallow and untrue. Women being criticized is not misogyny
/r/MensRights14/05/21 03:35 AM
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No it's not. No one is hating on her because of her gender. The people here are making a case that she is refusing to accept responsibility for her actions and blaming it on misogyny. The argument that's beginning to leak out here is to try and frame people here for hating her solely on being a woman which isn't true
/r/MensRights14/05/21 03:11 AM
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Thats cancel culture, just because it happened to someone you don't agree with doesn't mean anything now. The reason why she's getting the flak on here is because she's a bitch
/r/MensRights14/05/21 02:30 AM
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How is it misogyny she is being handled like other people who have been canceled. People tried to cancel Chris Pratt for being Christian but they also canceled some horrible people Ellen in in the middle of the two examples but definitely on the horrible side. Welcome to cancel culture
/r/MensRights14/05/21 02:01 AM
1

Her being abusive to the staff in general. Those were their words not mine. The reason I can take it at face value is because so many people were saying similar things.
/r/MensRights14/05/21 01:30 AM
1

Wow I like the downplay of her offenses, you must be good at making strawmans
/r/MensRights14/05/21 12:45 AM
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I just pilot my cyborgs to do my jobs
/r/MensRights13/05/21 04:21 PM
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It's more like an equal jab like last year when women on Twitter and other SM tried to cancel fathers day, or when women literally did what the above post is doing, cry harder please
/r/MensRights10/05/21 04:36 PM
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Learn to read
/r/MensRights10/05/21 02:29 PM
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Imagine bitching about the above post
/r/MensRights10/05/21 02:29 PM
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I see what you're saying but the op doesn't phrase it that way, that is why my explanation is the way it is. He says men who seek out virgins are creepy. What about men who are virgins themselves? Because they tend to have that standard. Women are exactly like you and me, man, they're people, don't look at them in such an alienating fashion, Women are people but they think differently than men at a base because they follow a different criteria for who they find attractive. Women and men are diff…
/r/MensRights09/05/21 10:44 PM
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What? I think I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say. I can agree that I'm young still and can't vet women in the best way possible. Being a virgin is not a big deal to me, but a high body count is something I'm wary of and how long the relationships lasted. oubviously younger girls whove never been with someone won't be as assertive and less likely to cheat but thats a prejudiced way to see people This is what I'm misunderstanding. You're acknowledging that its true, and it does have an…
/r/MensRights09/05/21 10:08 PM
1

Oh okay
/r/MensRights09/05/21 09:59 PM
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Yeah true but it's possible to have this standard and then vet for the correct one which is still very possible. Its never a guarantee but the risk is minimized. It's all the better if they leave before marriage anyway, ya know?
/r/MensRights09/05/21 09:58 PM
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Yeah in your opinion, but it holds true. From what I've seen myself and learned from other guys is that the more partners a girl has the more it is likely that she will cheat on you and leave you and it is not feasible for marriage. No one is sayings girls can't have sex in a LTR this is set more to weed out girls who fuck a different guy every other day/month. And that experience of past relationships is actually beneficial imo. Yes as a whole relationship. Not just sexual relations, why are pe…
/r/MensRights09/05/21 09:56 PM
5

What do you sympathize with exactly?
/r/MensRights09/05/21 08:45 PM
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It more of an assurance that virgins won't cheat on you and bring huge amounts of baggage from past relationships
/r/MensRights09/05/21 08:44 PM
5

My feet also hang off the bed. I need a new mattress haha
/r/MensRights09/05/21 08:42 PM
1

Why you do dis🥲
/r/MensRights08/05/21 09:50 PM
0

Could you give me an idea on what you mean by using their own definitions on which terms? What I'm missing is the context on the movie reference too. I'm genuinely asking because these types of discussions are a little more highbrow for me so it's hard for me to understand some of whats being brought up
/r/MensRights07/05/21 04:09 PM
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You seem to be missing the point. HVM have so many options its crazy. Men control access to relationships for the sole fact that many women, dare I say a majority of them, don't chase. They wait to be approached so on and so forth. There is no way for a HVM to sleep with many woman or marry enough. Women especially average women who refuse to date average men or "date down" don't respect them just because of money and will basically throw out any chance at that point even if that average man cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 12:50 PM
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Thats fine when you do it but not every person should be told to do it. Aren’t you the one who said you shouldn't tell people to smile? This is telling people what to do that is none of their business. I sense some sort of contradiction
/r/MensRights07/05/21 12:29 PM
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Even if it is somewhat true it is the dumbest thing to get mad at. Women tell me to smile all the time, it really isn't that big a deal. I guess we are back at odd stances
/r/MensRights06/05/21 11:57 PM
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Normally when I see you on this sub I disagree with you. Not this time though. These are actually valid points and make sense even in the scope of MRAs as well. If I'm misunderstanding why some of you downvoted the above comment explain to me why you disagree with any points
/r/MensRights06/05/21 04:41 PM
3

What? How does what you say correlate to here?
/r/MensRights06/05/21 12:45 AM
1

Have you heard of the CIA? I'd believe this stuff because of their history
/r/MensRights04/05/21 08:55 PM
1

I can get behind most of that, what she did still kind of falls under false accusation. Sp depending on how she came to accuse that man Rhee should probably be an investigation
/r/MensRights04/05/21 09:56 AM
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You made a very good case about why eye witnesses can be very unreliable. So then why did they believe the woman with all this knowledge about how unreliable eye witness testimony is? That's not even the full point either
/r/MensRights03/05/21 07:50 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:13 PM
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Here's one, never argue with a woman about controversial issues if you are just dating. Not in a relationship, just dating. A lot of men tend to keep opinions to themselves because if you hold an opinion somewhat controversial with no clear moral direction that they disagree with they will not see you. There are things women are prone to doing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 04:31 PM
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You must do your due diligence. The dude suffered the most from this, she let it fail. People need to realize that they shouldn't just say anything when doing a serious case like this because people specifically men in this case get fucked over and then their life is ruined. Sure fine let's not have her take any accountability, how is the dude going to get help or his time back?
/r/MensRights03/05/21 04:23 PM
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All women are different but there are some things that a majority do that can be made into a generalization because of how much they do something. People are unique but will still have similar forms of behavior, and when you are on the other end the similarities are more noticeable than you realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 03:01 PM
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If she can't recall who assaulted her then why is she taking a shot in the dark? I swear the nerve of you guys saying that she isn't at fault have a screw loose
/r/MensRights03/05/21 11:41 AM
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You even censored "fuck" and you probably wonder why people don't take you seriously
/r/MensRights03/05/21 11:24 AM
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No its because women seem to have a set type for casual sex. It's the lack of nuance, you aren't ent listening to what men are saying as much as you are accusing men of not listening to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 10:26 AM
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Lmao thats very contradictory but I'm not going onto that. Do you realize how little numbers ofbtrans people there are? Even if men were to date them there'd still be a huge amount of men left over. I have to ask this question, are you actually trying to help or not?
/r/MensRights03/05/21 10:24 AM
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You keep contradicting yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 09:07 AM
2

Gotcha so you're not adding anything realistically helpful to a majority of the population
/r/MensRights03/05/21 08:59 AM
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How realistic is that? Because you should go tell women the same thing since its takes two heterosexual peoplw to make a baby during sex. Tell me how effective you telling that to people is, especially since you said you aren't trying to enforce it.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 02:12 AM
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So then how are you adding anything to the discussion. You are just stating a fact.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 01:41 AM
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Lmao okay try enforcing that kn every person realistically
/r/MensRights03/05/21 12:29 AM
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Very unrealistic take, and adds nothing to the conversation on how to solve it
/r/MensRights02/05/21 09:26 PM
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Thanks so much for the sources you've done more than enough 😊
/r/MensRights02/05/21 04:10 PM
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Could you send sources on these! I would like to save the comments so I can use them for later debates.
/r/MensRights02/05/21 02:08 PM
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What? Lying about having birth control can also risk something growing something in a woman's body that the man didn't want. Idk why you're treating them differently they are the same
/r/MensRights02/05/21 02:03 PM
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That's not the point of the post
/r/MensRights02/05/21 02:01 PM
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It's funny because if women were willing to marry younger dudes they'd be somewhat better off
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 04:10 PM
0

Ah yes the "no u" response that you guys are famous for using
/r/MensRights01/05/21 04:08 PM
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Thanks for proving my point
/r/MensRights01/05/21 02:47 PM
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I'm glad the hosts were very empathetic
/r/MensRights01/05/21 02:45 PM
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I can't win because I sent you the smallest amount of things that I could and you still didn't even want to read some of them. You aren’t even pointing out specific things in the article that you don't agree with so it makes me think you haven't actually read them. And yet, that still doesn't make his words evidence, so you missed the point entirely I don't think you understand the importance of people testifying from inside of a scam. It makes it more credible but also it sets up the frame of h…
/r/MensRights01/05/21 02:30 PM
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Could you elaborate some examples of how not to lose your frame? I've been trying this but I feel like there's something I'm not understanding so I'm missing a couple pieces
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 01:53 PM
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How do the words of some random dude count as evidence? He's not random there is evidence he worked at trump university. Do you see how you're conducting yourself? You pull the tiniest amount of text and then run with that as your evidence. That makes no sense. All you've done is deny any claims I've made and haven't even brought up anything to help your case. That's something you guys are well known for, just like the extreme left who worship Biden, all you guys do is derail the conversation an…
/r/MensRights01/05/21 01:45 PM
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As someone who is so adamant in supporting trump I would assume that you want context with your proof. If I just highlight the part of the article then you'll just find another reason. Also making someone a decent amount of people hate a saint isn't how to go about things. If you're just lying about him rapport then no one's going to want him around. So a lot of good that stuff did for ya Lastly, I like how you're telling me to not make stuff up when you are trying to pull the "he's lying becaus…
/r/MensRights01/05/21 02:16 AM
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My overall claim is that trump is a scammer. The following articles are some documents showing why I believe it is true, I understand he hasn't been charged but the stuff documented shows shady activity. I only sent some stuff. Yes, and yet these are all biased claims How are they biased? Especially the one where someone on the inside confessed about what was going on. Yeah, no, I'm not reading a long article. Your evidence should be succinct So you are picking what you want to read, what a surp…
/r/MensRights30/04/21 02:00 AM
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You haven't engaged in a while so I'm going to assume that this is disingenuous
/r/MensRights29/04/21 01:02 PM
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I've already looked into it. Here's one source fact checking Trump about his "University" ratings. Also shows that hw lies to a huge amount of people idk why I need to prove to you that people lie https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/feb/28/donald-trump/fact-checking-donald-trumps-claims-about-trump-uni/ Here is another coming from a person who worked with the University about some of the practices used there. https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-university-professor-stephen-gilpin…
/r/MensRights29/04/21 12:59 PM
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Even I have to say this is not one worth discussing. It's most likely a satire bit
/r/MensRights28/04/21 07:12 PM
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Right and I guess all the people who stole shit and don't get caught aren't thieves. You see, the funny thing is that specific university i mentions settled on a 25 million dollar fraud charge. He was holding them in escrow until he was "forced" to pay in like 2017. If you want to dive into how the business was ran then look into it. But if you want to argue with me about this and then play word games I'm not the one to do that with. You see the problem with dedicated supporters of political off…
/r/MensRights28/04/21 10:35 AM
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You are a good person OP!
/r/MensRights28/04/21 04:46 AM
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Lmao why did you delete your comment that was about your gf and how she hates men? Did you realize it was an absurd premise to uphold?
/r/MensRights27/04/21 08:34 PM
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Anti feminism isn't hating women first of all. But also many people hate the rhetoric spouted by these feminists. When a man says these things we are also quick to rebuttal against them as well so it is not a hate for women. What also needs to be addressed is that we aren't slanderous towards feminism by point out hypocrisy and unearthing many horrible things done in the guise of feminisms goal of gender equality. So we need to be able to agree on this, just because we criticize feminism doesn't…
/r/MensRights27/04/21 08:17 PM
1

It's a logic that flies under the radar
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 06:48 PM
1

I mean if you're gaining weight for no reason then you should lose it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 06:46 PM
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I'm glad my reputation precedes me
/r/MensRights27/04/21 06:45 PM
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They became inactivists because they were circumcised...
/r/MensRights27/04/21 03:48 PM
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Damn bitchy mcbitcherson back at it again with the bitchin
/r/MensRights27/04/21 03:46 PM
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This must be the unpopular opinion so unpopular that even the mods had to remove it smh my head
/r/MensRights27/04/21 03:45 PM
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"I don't care about this topic so you guys must be pussies" -you, a fuckin retard
/r/MensRights27/04/21 03:44 PM
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I really like how you are avoiding commenting on my reply that actually wants to engage and have a discussion with you. I've seen you reply to many comments after mine and even said in one that "you want to try to understand or change our minds" but all you've done is irritate people. Glad to know you actually aren't serious about hating this sub or even supporting feminism. Please leave, you don't have to but why stay?
/r/MensRights27/04/21 03:39 PM
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Look it up, just because he got away with scamming people out of their money doesn't mean he didn't scam or have others commit fraud. He's a huge grifter Edit: I just realized in your past comments you are defending the point that DT doesn't lie. I don't know why it took me so long to catch that. If you truly believe that then there is nothing for us to discuss tbh
/r/MensRights27/04/21 03:28 PM
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They do, he's run multiple scam colleges. Trump University is one huge example. And in that one example he does and pays others to do these things for him.
/r/MensRights27/04/21 09:01 AM
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I'm not going to say many men don't marry off looks but I would say a lot more men pick off looks and then marry based on personality and characteristics of a women. The types of men you are referring too, what are their lifestyles like?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 12:46 AM
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Fair enough, you are right I shouldn't be so black and white. If you had to pick a preferred type who would you pick and why would you pick them and why would you not pick the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 12:00 AM
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I’m sure men do you get muscle implants to look more attractive, doesnt mean it actually makes them more attractive. Same thing with boob jobs, face lifts, and butt jobs. What is the point of saying this exactly? 1) studies as women age men rate them as progressively less attractive. This is not the case for men as most women find people their age to be attractive This is true for the most part i haven't looked deeply into this matter but from what I've taken in so far this is pretty true. But w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 11:58 PM
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The funny thing is that this is a debate and I asked a question that is simple to answer and all you did was fling insults. You don't even know who I am, so don't assume my privilege. Y’all really make me so fucking sick. I asked a couple questions, you should be more ashamed of yourself for how you reacted considering I was not rude to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 11:31 PM
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I said fit is pretty specific not the same, you'd know what a fit person looks like just like you'd know what a dad bod looks like. Fitness also depends on the kind of activity being done. It doesn't disprove what I've said. Now back to what I was asking would you date a fit man? Or a guy with a dad bod?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 10:44 PM
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Its not slander if what we are saying proves the opposite of what many feminists claim to be true. Just because someone discovered something about you and brings it to light to aid their point isn't slander. It'd be one thing if feminism only highlighted females issues without dragging men down but it doesn't work that way. So in order for our claims to be taken seriously we need proof and if the truth so happens to conflict with what feminists are pushing then we aren't the ones committing slan…
/r/MensRights26/04/21 10:39 PM
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Correct, meaning you can't trust donald trump or MSM
/r/MensRights26/04/21 10:33 PM
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Fit is pretty specific already. It's also not just a bit fluffy because for the most part if people are sporting fluffy dad bods now they most likely will get a bigger beer belly later in life and that is where the term dad bod comes from. So would you date a fit guy or a guy with a dad bod
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 10:32 PM
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You guys always come here to say this. Newsflash: men don't like being blamed for stuff "the patriarchy" does. Which we are and when we get upset people say "but it hurts you too" while simultaneously shrugging off any complaint or step made to bring awareness or solutions to mens problems or a lack of equality
/r/MensRights26/04/21 10:11 PM
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But all that stuff is true
/r/MensRights26/04/21 10:06 PM
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So does that mean you'd date a fit guy over a guy with a dad bod?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 02:24 PM
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I don't think all of that is true, men will fuck beautiful women but won't marry them if they can't check their attitude or are incompetent at too many tasks. I'm lost on your point for the second half of your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 12:35 PM
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So you don't think men do those two things to look more attractive? You even said one of them is super horrific in your opinion, which means that men are willing to go through worse procedures just to seem attractive to women. Doesn't that make mens beauty standards harder than womens?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 12:25 PM
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Also this is bullshit. Are you telling me that a man’s body is scrutinized in the same way that a woman’s body is?? When men are younger yes. I'd say in their 20s and 30s. They are pressured to get fit, healthy, make a lot of money, maybe have some sex experience. But a lot of woman like strong physical features like jaws or head shapes. Men rate women as less attractive the older they get. Women don’t. Which men do? Because I know women also don't find older men all that attractive. Men are jud…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 12:21 PM
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That's kind of sad that people might rather die alone than to date people with no high degree. I hope that's not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 11:51 PM
1

A lot of men and women actually
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 10:33 PM
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Exactly the women you know are not a majority. And for the most part women women give lip service to sound appealing when they feel they are being judged, but when the chips are down they follow what they feel more than anything else it seems. The dad bod definition hasn't changed so I have no idea what comes to mind when a woman says "dad bod"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 08:24 PM
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That's what a dad bod is. The beer belly lawnmower running beard having set. Average bodies aren't dad bods. The term became a thing because of the suburban stereotype of the dad with a beer gut and a fancy life. But thank you, you have proven a point, "most women don't". They either seem to be overweight themselves but want fit men to accept them as they are or they don't want fit men if they hold them to a higher standard
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 08:16 PM
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Dad bods are overweight, average bodies are a stable zone. They aren't on the perfect single number weight but on a proper weight thats not too skinny and not too overweight
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 08:09 PM
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Average bodies, not dad bods.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 07:59 PM
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Did you not understand that some of them just don't want any relationship with any man I get that but I'm talking about the ones who you said don't want to date fit men over men with dad bods. You know, the point of this conversation. The ones their STR, are they with men who have dad bods?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 07:49 PM
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Okay so this is telling me that those women aren't attracted to dudes with dad bods. These types of men aren't in short supply so it does explain why they are single much
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 07:43 PM
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Okay so then they have all these assumptions about fit men but aren't in any relationships themselves. Not even with dad bod men, for the most part in your friend group.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 07:29 PM
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Out of the girls who are in an LTR, what do they look like? Which friends were the ones in the LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 07:19 PM
1

Are they in any long-term relationships? I'd say about a year or more?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 07:15 PM
1

Are any of them married or engaged?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 07:06 PM
1

Maybe my wording was off, I'm saying that women for the most part care about a man's physical appearance at the same level at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 07:05 PM
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Okay, you aren't the person who I wanted to answer but thanks for the insight. But I find it bs that women don't care about physical attraction of a man, I find that comment very untrue. And let's just make the goal post marriage. How many reasonable men do you think would seriously marry a women based on her physical features alone without vetting a personality or character to suit him? The thing about the body enhancements is I agree that it comes from insecurities but it's an unnecessary doub…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 06:56 PM
1

Oh no! Anyway...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 06:47 PM
1

And what do your friends look like? Can you give me some physical descriptions along with a general height?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 06:40 PM
1

Could you walk me through your comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 06:13 PM
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Stop making it about you, I asked about what the other women tell you as a reason. You said you know many women who told you their reasons, I want to hear those not just yours. This is why I think your reasoning is bs and I can't trust it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 06:04 PM
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You are being vague again. First off the OP is saying fit men, not super jacked body builders only. So you can still have a fit guy with similar interests without being the stereotypical gym rat who eats broccoli and chicken. Second off this question isn't about you it's asking about women as a whole, tell me about the reasons that a lot of the women you know are telling you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 05:49 PM
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Okay that's your opinion, thus conversation won't go anywhere because you change everything im saying to your opinion. I'm speaking in general many healthy foods aren't boring, they taste good and they are better for most people. But let's get back to the main point, do you think that unfit women choose unfit men with "dad bods" because they don't want to deal with the expectations of fit men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 05:30 PM
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Okay but you can eat other healthy foods that aren't boring is what I'm saying. There is a variety is what I'm saying, you're counterpoint doesn't work
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 05:21 PM
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That descriptor is an example not a staple. There are a huge variety of delicious and healthy foods for people to eat. I can agree that the above diet is boring but thats not what a majority of healthy and fit people eat anyway. I'm still confused about your first point
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 05:12 PM
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We meet again and you're back at it again with the vague descriptors
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 04:08 PM
2

Blasphemy my guy
/r/MensRights24/04/21 02:54 AM
2

Simp mode activated
/r/MensRights22/04/21 12:06 AM
2

Wow
/r/MensRights21/04/21 12:17 PM
1

Relax
/r/MensRights21/04/21 12:17 PM
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Damn you should really read that reply
/r/MensRights20/04/21 09:32 PM
6

Your man is spot on... that is pretty much how it is for most guys haha
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 02:01 AM
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Don't stop treating us nicely now that you know the secret. We do appreciate the extra love and care
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 12:49 AM
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Guys do that to milk the attention they're getting in that moment because its rare
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 11:54 PM
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Lmao I know, I'm not afraid of being wrong. Thanks for taking the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:56 PM
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I see, I didn't realize that our liberals would be technically right leaning to the rest of the world. I didn't even consider other countries viewing it differently, thanks for your input! So then you'd consider yourself a lib, or whatever it is the left of a centrist?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 06:37 PM
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My apologies its really hard to keep tabs on everything with everyone miss using terms constantly. So then would you mind giving me the increasing list from centrist to the farthest left you can get?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 06:18 PM
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The point I'm making is that people use that excuse when their side isn't doing what it's perceived it should be doing. On top of that a lot of movements lack critical leaders so the standards are all over the place, hence the many "they aren't real x" counter points that people use nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:46 PM
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Top tier sarcasm
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:44 PM
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I do have the audacity because of your overwhelming amount of ignorance to the topic. Why should this not be investigated and why shouldn't the officers involved not have some decent form of backlash from higher ups? Thats how you make a system better. Knowing the history is crucial because when you do, you see that this stuff thats been happening is nothing new. And seeing how we have policies in the police department we have now come to fruition really puts these modern incidents into perspect…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:42 PM
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The rest I'm saying is that people always try to tell others that the radicals that are high in numbers aren't real feminists or liberals and that explanation is getting work out when there is a decent amount of "radicals" preaching harmful info
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:30 PM
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Greedy? How does that apply here? I named three things and mentioned two out of the three can apply to modern police and you somehow pinned down the least likely out of the job, good work... Sloppy goes to many conclusions, police work within a community and have weapons meaning that police being sloppy can end up in a loss of life. Thats not a standard that could be applied to something like retail, that doesn't equate. But the police are (or at least should be) burdened by a higher professiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 01:56 PM
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I'm not doing the semantics game with you. Malpractice is when someone doesn't perform optimally by their professional standards but that doesn't mean they can't be charged with murder of any degree. But we agree, police need to have consequences when they take a life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 01:49 PM
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That wasn't u/kaisha001 who said that btw
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 01:27 PM
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No, but when you go unchecked for so long you get greedy, bold, sloppy or all of the above and two out of the three I just mentioned can be applied to modern police
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 01:16 PM
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Yes he threw it away moments before but nobody is perfect. There it is! Cops should be held accountable like doctors and lawyers so these mistakes of heavy imperfection happens less often. It's a form of malpractice, I'm curious have you actually learned the history of the modern day police?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 01:14 PM
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How are they not different from the "woke crowd" brought up in the OP. What I see too much is that whenever somebody says something the other person doesn't agree with even though there is a huge following, people will say "they aren't true x's" when in reality they say that about you as well but they actually have the majority on their side
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 01:07 PM
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While I'm in agreement with a lot of what you're saying... Family court is actually slightly biased in favor of fathers who bother to fight for custody. Most of them don't. This right here is just not true
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 01:04 PM
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What? Women perpetuate this cycle too, not just men. Custody was made for women when they didn't work so it benefits women, but those are outdated laws now that women work. Women need to be held responsible for abusing men, how is that the "patriarchy"? Suicide rate is too much stress from life and no outlet, being perceived to not need help is not patriarchy it's a social issue. Everything else listed are social issues that have economic and mental issues sprinkled in
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 01:01 PM
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This is one of the sadder cases, it's not entirely about feminists but it's about the victim hood idea they've cemented for women and how that perceived innocence and need to be protected hurts men. https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/earl-silverman-who-ran-mens-safe-house-dies-in-apparent-suicide Men do bring up these issues, but people devalue it and equate it to whining without a reason. So then thats why MRAs deconstruct feminists arguments because people think men bringing up mens issues a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 12:50 PM
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It sucks because I've been told this by my parents especially my dad, but they're old school and from another country so I can't blame them for not being able to keep up with the trends in the US. Now I'm trying to reprogram myself to not try to focus on marriage and relationships I'm doing well but sometimes I just get in the "I need a wife" mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 12:44 PM
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Statistics do actually have a lot to do with this. You haven't even brought up the "discrete mathematics" you claim would build your case, I see this conversation going no where so good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 04:52 AM
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No need to say anything, I just want the movement to be understood. Don't get me wrong some people will try to piggy back their of sexist shit on here but the mods do a decent job of removing them, but when they don't we in the community must stop that behavior.
/r/MensRights18/04/21 12:05 AM
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I'm not misinterpreting your points I am actually taking them at face value and they don't support the majority, you can't give someone advice or a reasonable explanation about something based of a small percentage and portion of data... thats what I'm calling you out for
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 11:32 PM
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So then why were you on this post? The op was trying to make a discussion for why people want men to cuddle but not have sex, I've been giving scenarios of compromise and have been giving reasonable circumstances. You haven't said anything to counter my claim in any way, saying that most people can't lift 200 pounds doesn't mean that lifting 200 pounds is impossible. I have though, you are the one trying to parade around small percentages of instances where your argument works and are trying to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 03:03 PM
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Okay that's just wrong, if a woman is qualified and is good at her job then she should be elected.
/r/MensRights17/04/21 02:43 PM
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Women can run for president. Inserting someone just to be president because or their diversity is actually against democracy at it's core.
/r/MensRights17/04/21 02:42 PM
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I said SOME of them do, The exception does not disprove the rule, you are saying SOME. I provided MANY or A LOT, they are not the majority but it's still a lot of people to say that a certain thing can work. Oh, so you can just exclude things? I excluded that point like 30 comments ago. I said if there isn't a serious inhibitor from stopping you guys from having sex from time to time then you should have some sex. I will say it one last time, distance is a good serious reason as to not have sex!…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 02:38 PM
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Thanks for taking the time to read them! I knew the second set of links were blog posts but I wanted to use them more for the fact that you have multiple people coming to similar conclusions about modern feminism even though they haven't met each other to reach these conclusions, again I understand they are only two articles but I wasn't about to send you 20 haha. I am not fighting with you, I believe that facing our problems should not be men VS women Of course! And I'm okay with taking this to…
/r/MensRights17/04/21 02:20 PM
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In that LTR are you married? If not, has their been a proposal to get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 02:08 PM
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It's hilarious you ask for proof when it's common in this modern world, not having sex is a decent indicator for a failing marriage. Not in all aspects obviously. It is ridiculous that you believe there aren't a decent amount of old people who do have sex and yet old people with STDs is a growing problem especially in nursing homes. https://www.nia.nih.gov/health/sexuality-later-life Guess what happens when young people can have sex? They fuck a lot. Here is an article for some stats but it's mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 02:06 PM
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I see, well if it smells like shit everywhere you go then... I think you can figure out the rest. We are starting to get way too specific here. My original point still stands and makes sense and is accurate and achievable
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 04:30 AM
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This answer was completely within my expectations. I think that’s a pretty normal experience for women I'd say thats normal for most people. But I digress, you didn't answer the question though who was the dumper? And on top of that I'm just saying relationships will work even better with consistent sex, provided that there is no serious concerns, and compromise. Women don't have to always say yes when they aren't in the mood but enough to where the guy isn't being neglected.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 04:15 AM
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I can understand why you feel targeted about my "fuck your partner" statement but it was a general call to action. Being miles away from each other is a valid reason for not having sex like I said in my other comments. If there was nothing serious keeping you guys away then etcetera etcetera. I answered it many times and youre ignoring it, because sex isn't necessary This is incorrect sex is mandatory, frequency and different types is dependent on the couple, but in general sex is a decent reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 04:04 AM
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Regardless, sounds like any compromise makes penises sad, so whatevs You say this but contradict yourself when you say guys are happy when they get three times a month. the ones I didn’t dump were fine with sex when I wanted it and being turned down That's okay, but you have just created the opposite end of the spectrum scenario. "My bf will have sex with me whenever I'm ready", that's probably why the relationship ended. Did those boyfriends who were okay with it dump you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 03:49 AM
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My bad I thought I was replying to another user who actually has a similar picture
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 03:20 AM
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Mandatory and needs have different definitions... Cooperation and compromise are mandatory for a relationship to be healthy. They are not needs, because like you said there are no needs, they are all wants. People want cooperation from their partners so it is mandatory that you are able to cooperate and compromise. You still aren't answering my question, why after all these wants you draw the line at sex? Just fuck your partner from time to time, just like they should just cuddle with you from t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 03:10 AM
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Oh so the previous comment of yours wasn't for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 03:00 AM
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Why is it bad that guys care about sex? I can understand being overly fixated is bad and not wanted; however I've been parading a notion of just regular sex maybe twice a week and you are fighting me on that? That's crazy. The previous comment I made was about compromise but ultimately spending time together with your partner that could be used for this sex discussion and you even said it sounds lovely! But it's not for you? Compromise is not for you.... if that's your rebuttal I'm having troubl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 02:58 AM
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The standard I set was a relationship, all of that is wants. For some reason in your mind sex is just off the table, it is a want like mutual respect or communication. You are giving me every example that is outside the realm of what we're talking about. Asexuals are not the topic, old oeople are not the topic, and you even said SOME young couples because you know there's more successful relationships out their with young couples fucking each other regularly. Sex contributes, it doesn't have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 02:51 AM
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I like how a couple comments ago you were saying how you weren't trying to hurt peoples feelings yet here you are with 3rd grade level insults, your hormones switch up or something?
/r/MensRights17/04/21 02:38 AM
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It's like if a boyfriend tags along with his gf to something she likes that he doesn't care for, it doesn't have to be the best but try a little. Or an even better example if a man likes video games and play with his girlfriend who typically isn't into them, they both can have a little fun if the girl is still trying and active while letting the guy lead. Sometime you just need to get down to business
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 02:34 AM
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The first three things are WANTS. So you want these things in a relationship but you stop at sex? Why? It is your partner make a compromise on this like you do with all these other wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 02:31 AM
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So you came to a sub reddit start a conversation of discourse just to tell us that you don't like us and we can't change your mind? Okay, no one invited you nor is anyone telling you to stay. The fact that you believe men don't have issues that need awareness and attention is a weird stance to take
/r/MensRights17/04/21 02:26 AM
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I am dealing with it, notice how no one is banning you and allowing you to just exist. No one here wants to silence you anyway, that's not the point. Your idea of the sub is incorrect anyway, it seems like you think men as a whole don't have any issues in modern society.
/r/MensRights17/04/21 12:31 AM
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You answer what they ask first, then provide nuance. You didn't even answer his og question you painted it in a type of light that would make it easier for you to answer. I'm not against debating, I'm against people who debate poorly. You aren’t challenging the OP if you make his argument weaker so you can have an easier time defending your point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 12:25 AM
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I can agree to that. All I'm saying is that people should be willing to take a little then give a little. That is compromise and that's how younget relationships to work
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 12:22 AM
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There definitely are insecure men here, but you attacking them without at least trying to understand them isnt going to help them or you. This whole sub isn't full of insecure men or men who hate women.
/r/MensRights17/04/21 12:20 AM
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Women want to be cuddled, men want sex. They both require consent from the partner and people feel that they want these for themselves in a relationship. So why is it a big deal, just cuddle sometimes if its what your partner needs/wants and just have sex if your partner needs/wants it. It's less about power dynamics and people just removing poles up their asses in trying to take as much as possible with losing anything
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 12:18 AM
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Sometimes, yes! That's compromise. If a woman wants a man to be available emotionally he should be there for her even if he doesn't feel like it in some moments. If something serious isn't inhibiting them from doing what their partner wants/needs in the moment just do it for your partner from time to time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 12:15 AM
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Tell me what you consider "needs" in a relationship before I continue to my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 12:12 AM
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Fourth wave feminism is similar to the third wave but more politically correct and includes trans people and everyone after the T in LGBT. That is not an opinion having modern feminists make claims that are given many upvotes, hearts, and positive retweets on Twitter alone shows that there is a huge enough following on these claims to generalize feminists today.
/r/MensRights17/04/21 12:11 AM
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That is the base line, people shouldn't rape others, but we aren't arguing whether rape is bad or not you and I are smart enough to understand rape is a horrible thing to do to someone. I'm not going to touch the first part of that sentence because that is something else entirely. People in relationships should be willing to help their partners fulfill their needs even if it isn't in their direct interests or benefit sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 06:39 PM
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Yes it means what you're saying but the sex positivity was started so women could also have somewhat causal sex, meaning that they shouldn't be shamed for not waiting until marriage to have sex. Now that last part of the do it yourself attitude is so jaded an unfair to the guy in a relationship/marriage. Men especially those who are primary providers tend to find themselves in this situation. They aren't top earners buy they earn enough for the family, should they just stop supporting their love…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 06:15 PM
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It's proven on social media pretty consistently. And that is where fourth wave feminism takes its mantle, on social platforms
/r/MensRights16/04/21 06:00 PM
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Yes I am, but what is also happening a lot is that men aren't getting their fulfillment in a relationship with what they consider important intimacy and it takes a back seat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:59 PM
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But that means it has to happen at some point, and if it is too infrequent then it is a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:57 PM
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Exactly but then why is the man shamed and people appluad it at worst but stay silent at best. But when it is the other way around the man is quickly labeled controlling, demanding, or even worse things
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:56 PM
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The double standard is when you said people in relationships want to be hugged but then when someone says people in relationships want sex you counter with average people want that less often. People are making sex seem like such a chore when it isn't, the mentality that it is bothersome is what fuels this weird indifference in a world where we are told to be sex positive but most people in the thread are being negative and are beating around the bush not helping their partners with their physic…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:31 PM
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They are different things yes, but they are similar and being compared. Thats what a comparison is
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:20 PM
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You may not consider it oppression, fine I guess. But that doesn't disprove anything that OP mentioned that is actually based on many facts. Do we have to be oppressed to have current issues taken seriously? Men have it hard and it is constantly over looked, and people say men aren't oppressed but then only think about a type of man who is an elite who benefits from the rules in place while a majority of men don't. Also no one is thinking about if you respect them, so that last sentence doesn't …
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:19 PM
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I know but I'm saying this stuff got really outof hand in the third wave especially. Don't ask for sources and then not read them. This one is just an outline and surface look of feminism but doesn't dive into the nitty gritty. https://femmagazine.com/feminism-101-what-are-the-waves-of-feminism/ These next are two people coming to similar conclusions even though they have not met each other, about modern feminism. https://www.theodysseyonline.com/american-feminism-hurting-women https://www.retur…
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:12 PM
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That is reasonable. This is what it can be but people would rather double down and think that a guy wanting to have regular sex is somehow inappropriate, at least that's what I've been picking up in some of the comments
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:41 PM
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I understand you want to believe that the movement is still good but what you believe and what is realistic differ. A lot of women online support believe victims immediately without doubt or question. Once that became more widely accepted and not contested then it leaves room for many women to abuse the unchecked power in that rhetoric.
/r/MensRights16/04/21 04:38 PM
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Not what I said, if you didn't want to discuss then you shouldn't have commented. People can do what they want, so why isn't this scenario equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:34 PM
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So your solution to my argument is to HAVE SEX i.e be pegged THEN cuddle? Because that falls in line with the point to just have sex then cuddle, you have effectively destroyed your own stance
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:33 PM
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Not the whole thread but some comments
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:55 AM
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Brings the friendzone out of left field to a post talking about suicide and criminal proceedings. Like, why is that you point to equate this stuff too? I guess women who complained about their issues are just mad because their crush didn't ask them to prom?
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:53 AM
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You should bother to dissect it, if your points are valid then that challenges us to actually take better cases and drop ones that are actually bs
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:49 AM
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Thats your takeaway? What narrow view
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:48 AM
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Thats not what the point of the response to the post was. He was literally doing their challenge the exact same way, but now people are mad? Why?
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:47 AM
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Damn what? It is rare to see a single father with shared custody let alone primary or sole custody. I'm sure you just commented this out of opposition but have never looked into it your whole life
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:46 AM
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Most of the things listed for women are just social norms and quality of life issues like porn or being in a movie. The mens actual issues outnumber the 2XC one before he even gets to quality of life stuff like going into a bar for free.
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:44 AM
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Exactly, so men shouldn't have to pay for fuck ups who think raping women is okay. Rapists should be labeled as such and dealt with, men shouldn't be treated as a "rapist who hasn't raped yet"
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:39 AM
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We don't really ban people for having incorrect opinions
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:37 AM
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"Fragile fucks" lmao Hoes mad ig
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:34 AM
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First wave feminism? Maybe. Third wave? Not anymore. Any moral doctrine feminism had in the past doesn't exist systematically anymore.
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:32 AM
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Way to be dismissive when this is your first time in this sub. That kind of makes you an asshole
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:29 AM
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What? How? He literally just listed mens issues but framed them for women. What is concerning?
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:28 AM
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You are big vag
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:27 AM
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but many of your points are blind guesses You are going to need to be hella specific, how is a lot of what he said guesses when they have been provided by sources and studies constantly posted on rhe sub?
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:26 AM
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So then go to the sub and say that to them. I'm not one to support the oppression Olympics but the response doesn't fall under that category. They are making claims that somehow those things that they mentioned benefit men only and contribute to the "patriarchy" that they are fighting. The response from Op is fair and more grounded reality to actually provide nuance to what feminists think they are objecting to
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:23 AM
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Wow I got banned for way less, it was a time when I thought 2XC was a fair and good sub. I saw a guy spitting some facts about rape and stuff which was on topic with the post and women were berating him even though he was also a rape survivor. I chimed in and said we should show solidarity or something to that effect and was promptly banned 🤭. Yeah...
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:16 AM
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That's not what he is saying. He is saying that men are bashed for not wanting to cuddle with women when they want to. So why is it different when men ask for sex? If women can deny sex for any reason including no reason then a man should be able without being berated by his partner or any other people. If sex and cuddling can't be compared then what would be a better comparison for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:48 AM
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and no one has ever presented sex as something we should do when we didn’t feel like it. That's because of modern social norms taking things too far in one direction
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:41 AM
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Just admit you have double standards, why are you willing to die on this hill?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:35 AM
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Always happy to help
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:22 AM
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u/cowfisharereal just so they can read this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:19 AM
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It's not the fact the we as men should be expecting sex from the partner. It's that as partners we should be willing to do things for each other even if it's not in our direct interest or benefit. That means that if I'm tired from work but you are saying that you want to vent to me because you had a bad week, even though I want to sleep I will stay up with you and listen because it is important. If your partner wants to have sex and there is no detrimental reason for you to not have it, then jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:14 AM
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Why is it that when a general question is asked people have to start adding qualifiers to the question before they give a solid answer. I'm all for what ifs and trying to give the best foot forward to as many people as possible but you need to address and disprove or agree with the initial question first. No one is saying that sex should just be given if a partner is hurting down there or has a UTI or some other reason, op is giving an initial view of 'this is a scenario I'm presenting and why i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 03:28 AM
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Thats not how he framed it though. You are intersecting some random creep reading his words and acting on them as justification. The sane reaction would be to condemn the psychopath you are referring to, not get mad at op that is words might be taken out of context by some random he doesn't know. Especially if what he is saying doesn't come close to warranting that behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 02:51 AM
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Wow this thought process is devolving fast
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 02:26 AM
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Wow this is top level delusion
/r/MensRights15/04/21 04:15 AM
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Agreed
/r/MensRights15/04/21 04:05 AM
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I 100 percent agree, I've been seeing just avoid women posts and generalizing women being bad. Like holy fuck guys we will literally become what we hate in the feminists. Then you'll have people say "not all MRAs" or "they're not real MRAs. Just think about what you guys are doing
/r/MensRights14/04/21 11:00 PM
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But you probably got to know them to a degree before outright acknowledging them as creepy, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 12:05 PM
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What would you consider creepy behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 12:00 PM
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I mean, most men can't control their thirst until they do. So I guess point taken?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 10:34 PM
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That doesn't matter I'm not getting into it since all you want to do is derail the og convo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 09:08 PM
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Damn, I'm going to apply that to wage gap and women's struggles
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 08:55 PM
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They do exist. And if you wanted to solve the issue you would work with the post and dive into why these things happen and how we can fix them. But instead you want to deny them ever existing. You aren't even good at sticking to a topic ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 08:45 PM
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I'm glad to know that you have actually run out of talking points because I have provided actual counter arguments to your points and you have pretty much abandoned them. Just admit that your scenario isn't what op was talking about. What you described is real as well, it's just not what THIS post is talking about. You'd know that if you read to understand and not read to only respond. Like I said in my last post I said "seemingly no reason" there could very well be a reason, I only said that to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:12 PM
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That's not the situation I described earlier. Exactly my response for op. He's giving a realistic aspect to life where people are denied sex for seemingly no reason. They may do everything under the sun to not even get consent, and if they do its a chore because the women will then dictate the terms of sex to a mediocre degree. Thats what op was talking about, not whatever made up scenario you made up in your own head where you believe you're justified. Having to manage the husband, makes him th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 06:32 PM
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First off you are arguing in bad faith assuming that I as a man or the man in this scenario doesn't get paper work done. It has to get done, but if you're household is constantly scrambling to get this stuff (mortgage) in order after a certain amount of time then you are BOTH slacking. If your husband is asking you for sex and you give him busy work before he can "unlock" you then the relationship is fucked. Especially as a wife it shouldn't be difficult to get laid, no one is saying everyday bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 04:38 PM
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The op is talking about unreciprocated sexual activities. No one is saying agree to any type of sex, but actively ignoring sexual concerns of your man is the reason men are going to other outlets. It's somewhat easy to fill sexual desires of a man who doesn't ask too much and most regular guys don't ask too much, dead bedrooms are a symptom of no sex not lack of freaky sex. If you live with a husband who constantly provides for and works a lot for what you have whether or not you are a SAHM, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 04:25 PM
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But you should listen to the people complaining about the correct stuff. If you as a girlfriend or wife are constantly tacking on task after task, or are just not satisfying your husband from week to week then don't get married in the first place because both sides needs must be met. And if you can't give to someone in a relationship don't bother being in one. This goes to both sides but for the sake of the post this is direct towards women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 02:14 PM
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Thats reaching a lot. The post is framing a situation where the guy wants to have sex with a gf or wife and wants to probably do different stuff. If its reasonable then why deny him everytime he asks, thats forcing him to go look elsewhere via porn or other women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 02:08 PM
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I think that's why he said he wouldn't get married
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 02:00 PM
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This is exactly why most high earners have the most leverage and women going for them increases male thirst. It doesn't increase their chances to secure a man, just that they may sleep with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 08:24 AM
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I partly agree with the last paragraph but there are still some points to be adjusted. While men get no consultation directly at this moment in time this hurting women will come to a head when many realize how little options they have left when many high value men are taken. The issue that is happening to 80% of men is happening to all the women who want a high value man; they are effectively and karmatically putting themselves in the position that 80% of men are facing by only going for top ear…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 12:28 AM
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That makes no sense, if anything a lot of modern women ideals clash with high value mens standards. Also in the statement provided if women only focus on the top 20% of men they effectively make it harder on them to provide companionship and secure a relationship because of the overwhelming amount of women going for a small subset of men. Men are already outnumbered by women and then they slice their chances down even further by targeting 20% of men. Your version of supply and demand doesn't wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 11:55 PM
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That is very true, I'm just having trouble trying to figure out how this relates to the original post I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 08:33 PM
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Gotcha thanks 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:37 PM
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I'm confused what point is your article making?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:24 PM
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Can't sign I don't live in the UK 😑
/r/MensRights12/04/21 06:13 PM
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Pretty sure its a numbers game. Most infrastructure related jobs are done by men. If women were to dissappear it would have an effect on the remaining population but men would be able to live at the end of our natural lives. If women lost men collectively then infrastructure would not remain intact and would break down quicker than women could realistically get it running as it had been previously
/r/MensRights12/04/21 10:31 AM
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Okay I see what you mean but I have a different take for what you were saying earlier. Men thirsting for women is an issue, but why are they thirsting? Because of a lack of sex and mates. People don't get thirsty if there is enough to drink. Average women seeking out the highest men is an issue, when this is done enough then you get the thirsty people sliding into dms and simping because they are willing to do anything to get the thirst quenched. Now for your links those women may pull guys in b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 02:35 AM
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Could you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:18 PM
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Men tend to do that already, a lot of dudes choose MGTOW as the realistic course of action if most women only want to go for a small percentage of men. Now do get me wrong, a lot of guys need to stop putting women on pedestals but the former problem is bigger than the latter
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 01:07 PM
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Dopamine, they probably don't realize that they are perpetuating a cycle. Also maybe a feeling of "it'll work this time", dating apps don't benefit the majority of men and at the same time a lot of men aren't taught how to converse with women making approachingbthem irl difficult. Other accounts need to be taken in but this is a bit more from the mens side ig
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 08:57 PM
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The name doesn't imply equality for all. Also I keep seeing comments like yours say that these people are not real feminists. You and others like you keep disqualifying others from being not true feminists and if it were how that works then there would not be any true feminists left. The reality is that there are a lot of shitty feminists and there is a huge empathy gap for those they deem enemies. Why is it so hard for people to just choose to be egalitarians?
/r/MensRights10/04/21 06:10 PM
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Mens day is November 19. Though I don't know what happened on Twitter
/r/MensRights10/04/21 05:58 PM
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What are you talking about? No one even said that
/r/MensRights10/04/21 05:57 PM
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Here's the thing why should men change from the preferences of slim women. It is objectively a better life style than being obese or close to obese. And to be even more upfront, average guys don't mind chunky women and ugly guys will take what they can get. Women want those who are less desirable i.e fat women to be accepted by high value men when average when would be willing to accept overweight women (not obese) for the most part. Its not hypocrisy if a well known male preference is achieveab…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 07:19 AM
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You don't gotta tell me twice 😘
/r/MensRights10/04/21 07:06 AM
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You're not going to upset me, you replying like this proved why people should just avoid arguing with you. That is all.
/r/MensRights10/04/21 06:49 AM
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Yeah everything says for guys and girls to get married and have a nice family. Average guys understand where they are in the world and if they are sensible will live within their means. A lot more average women believe they can get the best out of the best in men and not bring much to the table. I personally can't quantify those numbers with what I'm saying but its frequently seen on social media and day-to-day life without needing a huge study to get the gist. And if thousands of women like the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 06:47 AM
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Before I respond I need to ask where you are basing some of you conclusions Nonetheless the marriage rate has only dropped by what like 8%? Which countries are you talking about/basing this on? Where does your time-line to compare a dropped rate of marriage begin? Iirc women who are actively dating/cohabiting want to get married more than their male counterparts, but single men want to get married more than single women This part is where I'm lost. It proves what I'm saying more than you realize…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 06:30 AM
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It's funny you say this because in many more progressive countries, US included, marriage rate is down because men no longer want to marry. Not because they just don't want to for no reason but the reason is that women far and wide have unrealistic standards in the dating scene. So men are actually doing what you said on your post "letting women have their standards". At the end of the day women won't be satisfied at all because if women only go for the top guys who are the elite of the elite th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 03:52 AM
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Just letting you guys know this person's comment history shows that she doesn't care about civil discourse and mostly tries to one up your comments without adding substance. Most of her retorts will be picking on word choice and mocking you
/r/MensRights10/04/21 03:10 AM
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An even more perfect response
/r/MensRights10/04/21 01:40 AM
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Women and men converse differently. Thats okay. Women like to vent and not receive solutions, just getting things off their chest. Men like getting solutions that fit an issue they may experience not "damn that sucks" or "I'm sorry to hear that" all the time. People learn how to talk to women but people rarely know how to talk with men.
/r/MensRights09/04/21 04:22 AM
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Honestly I think it's because women don't know how to talk to men, not through malice but people just don't teach that. And last but not least if you take them up on there offer and tell one of these women about your problems it’s usually met with a nothing response (K, damn that sucks, etc) This is how women want their venting sessions to go they want to be heard and get things off their chest. Its that thing people say that women don't want solutions to their problems. Men like to have solutio…
/r/MensRights09/04/21 04:01 AM
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Ah yes good job good job
/r/MensRights08/04/21 10:30 PM
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Cool, glad to see you still have nothing new to add after repeating the same sentence for most of the interaction. Cheers love🇬🇧🇬🇧
/r/MensRights08/04/21 04:39 PM
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You seem to be missing my point most women can use the pussy pass. When it comes to authority and choosing men, it goes against unqualified men and women. Authority is different in the sense that there are many different levels of authority and men and women can be in those positions. It is pretty weak in this argument because of the fact the authoritative positions are small in numbers the higher up you go. A pussy pass can be applied to a decent amount of women vs a position can be applied to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 04:36 PM
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Ah yes "proper english" I think we're done here.
/r/MensRights08/04/21 02:14 AM
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So you're from the UK, I knew something was off about you? Now it makes sense
/r/MensRights07/04/21 11:57 PM
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Fair enough points. But what I'm ultimately saying is that there isn't a mens version of a pussy pass. The dictators is not a good argument because of the facts that there are woman in positions of power that still abuse their privilege of authority. Pussy pass is being to get into a club for being a beautiful woman, or having people have you do less manual labor because you're a woman. In both these points looks can and don't need to matter but the gender definitely plays a roll. I will say tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 11:55 PM
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Exactly no one was saying this wasn't the case. You were saying something along the lines that men have their own "pussy pass" and that simply isn't true, just because authority just happens to be male and dictators mostly are made up by men is a bad comparison and actually shows how your argument already doesn't have a standing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 06:42 PM
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You mean "whining." Did you get dismissed from spelling class? When you dismiss everything you dislike as whining you become unable to have proper discussion to actually make things better
/r/MensRights07/04/21 03:40 PM
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Okay, but what does it have to do with being male. Most men don't become dictators, but most dictators are men. You are trying to say (from your previous comments) that overall "dick passes" are a thing because dictators happen to be mostly men. You are talking about a small percentage of people in general and trying to make a majority fit into that mold when it's not true
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:35 PM
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Dictators are very rare in accordance to history. Its not a preference for males that make a dictatorship happen its the promise of power and actually being able to carry it out. This whole dictator thing is so small because a majority of people don't become dictators, but a lot of women (and I'll be specific to the US for now) benefit from a pussy pass
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:26 PM
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Not really women don't have to have a huge amount of sexual partners, most men don't mind a girl with a couple of bodies. Just don't have like 27 past "relationships" that are on and off
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:20 PM
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Because they are a girl, thats why its a pussy pass. Dictators happen to be men, it doesn't mean they got a dick pass or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:15 PM
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Weird how you have selective hearing like most feminists
/r/MensRights07/04/21 01:00 AM
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God you're insufferable, there is a definition but a lot of modern woman don't follow it. It's just been reduced to "I hate men" and to have thousands of people chiming in on it in an indifferent stance at the least and fully supporting it at most shows that it's not a tiny few.
/r/MensRights06/04/21 11:56 PM
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Keep apologizing ig, the are extremists and are also feminists of the modern time
/r/MensRights06/04/21 08:41 PM
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Damn you really got me there. Its not like there is a sub actively encouraging the "not true feminist" ideals. It seems like you have trouble realizing that feminism has moved past a certain point and is instead becoming toxic through many modern followers.
/r/MensRights06/04/21 06:52 PM
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Don't be a dick: Just because you say they aren't true feminists doesn't nullify their claim of being feminists. A lot of the people commenting on that r/feminism post might disagree with you and say you aren't the real feminist
/r/MensRights06/04/21 05:26 PM
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You can't say that because women who do say that call themselves feminists
/r/MensRights06/04/21 03:46 PM
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I actually started laughing, thank God I'm in the break room by myself
/r/MensRights06/04/21 03:43 PM
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I made a comment about how the post was getting a lot of downvotes vs the other post and got downvoted lmao
/r/MensRights05/04/21 03:34 PM
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"Loosing" learn to spell goddamn
/r/MensRights05/04/21 11:41 AM
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I almost believed you, nice troll post
/r/MensRights05/04/21 11:30 AM
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It's pro because the result didn't fuck him over and the wife got what she had coming
/r/MensRights05/04/21 11:28 AM
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At least he's willing
/r/MensRights05/04/21 11:25 AM
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I like how I saw a comment chain earlier with you in it where you are upset that someone was discounting your experience and umyou were saying they shouldn't do that, yet here you are. Nice to know you can't hold up your own standards
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:33 PM
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Pulling put the mansplaining card when you're actively in a discussion trying to say that in business being assertive as men make people like you vs when it's a woman people call you a bitch. Actively in a discussion and someone is explaining their view as opposed to yours is reduced to "mansplaining", okay 🙃. I just had to say it twice goddamn
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:24 PM
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What issues do you suggest we talk about that we don't already talk about?
/r/MensRights30/03/21 04:59 PM
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Nice try shaming I guess
/r/MensRights30/03/21 03:40 PM
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I'm going to say that what you've given me is a lot of out of context snippets from the videos that you've been watching. A lot of the people who type their comments are actually in favor of what he does and says because he speaks for those people very well. The first point is relationships will not always work out. He asks questions like where people live and how likely it is to find what you are looking for in that area. The second point is that he interviews people on his show, he's making co…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:04 AM
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Give me some examples then because I haven't run into any of these people in the comments or his videos. Where did you find these? Also he can't just refer everyone who wants a high value man to these women because the concentration and competition would be too high, it's unrealistic
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:38 AM
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Name a few factors please
/r/MensRights29/03/21 01:36 AM
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Women do get things out of his content. A lot of the women on there approach with this laid back casual sexism and disdain for men in general. The way he handles them can be very harsh but its definitely a good dose that he needs to give out because people being too nice when giving advice doesn't always cut it. Also he is not asking women approach him for high value men, they come looking for advice and he tells them if they have what it takes. There is never a guaranteed payoff in dating, he c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:34 AM
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I'm not gonna say he's not epimping but he is most definitely a dating coach who helps people find their matches. His YouTube content shows why there is a lot of discrepancy in the modern world and how a lot of women view relationships especially with a specific subset of men that they tend to look for in their areas
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 12:49 AM
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You're saying he doesn't do what I claim he does, what do you believe he sets out to do? Tell me what you think the points of his videos are, and what is his goal when he speaks to these women and men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:55 PM
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Lying has nothing to do with trust. She can lie regardless of how Ia man may believe in her. Your second point doesn't make a stand because of my first point For the third point, the woman gets a lot of leverage in bodily autonomy and cs from the "father" of the child. There are numerous cases where women are awarded huge amounts of money in family court and then go back to get even more money awarded to them. Family court is used as a weapon against men and that is partly because of how much le…
/r/MensRights28/03/21 09:58 PM
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He is trying to get his point across of how there are a lot of a certain type of woman. He's not saying that women can't want what they want he is saying it's unrealistic concerning their current circumstances. You obviously haven't watched a lot of his videos, he proves that time and time again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 08:14 PM
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Here is the thing, women can lie about being on the pill and force men to be dads if they think they can cum in that woman's vagina. There are also rulings in court where they try to make men be fathers of children who they don't even know belong to them because women can withhold a paternity test because of "my body my choice". Men need to be able to have a stake in this whole thing in order to give them an out to not be a father when he chooses not to be for instances like lying, failed birth …
/r/MensRights28/03/21 08:11 PM
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I don't like the fact that most of the comments are ridiculing men for feeling a type of way instead of just supporting them through it. It's little things like this that get overlooked that lead into bigger shit that make men not want to talk to people. If that us enough to make you stop seeing someone then I'm glad you just helped him dodge a bullet. To my guys out there, its okay that you feel this way its how you've been conditioned most likely but its okay to let your partner pay for a meal…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 04:29 AM
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Women control access to sex, in your perfect scenario in what you gave me is a nuclear family. Why not avoid the situation of a man bailing on your child buy selecting a more openly responsible man? This is what I mean by you are not having the woman in this scenario take accountability. Or they can get an abortion, or they can give it up for adoption, or they can make the government force a man to be responsible for where he jizzed. You keep giving this scenario where the man is just ejaculated…
/r/MensRights25/03/21 03:55 PM
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I'm not advocating for people to not have sex. If women get the brunt of pregnancy then they should fuck a guy who'd stay if something were to happen.
/r/MensRights25/03/21 02:22 AM
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I think people take this too literal. Of course men and women can be friends but what they mean is that is an ineffective way to sleep with a woman or get into a relationship if you are a man. A lot of women won't date, sleep with or have a relationship with a guy friend, idk the specifics in psychology but for some reason being friends disqualifies you as a partner. Men want to have sex and you have the guys who are nice become friends with a girl in hopes to eventually work their way up but a …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 11:16 AM
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So then men should be able to opt out of parenthood if she chooses to keep a child that the man wasn't planning on having. Women need to be responsible for letting a man cum in them as much as a man is responsible for cumming in them. If they want a kid or don't want a kid they can and should choose to not have sex with a man with the opposite view.
/r/MensRights23/03/21 08:11 PM
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That's low value, a lot of men don't want to deal with this kind of thing so they don't get with someone like this. Compatability has something to do more with interpersonal mingling and vetting
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:53 PM
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So then if the guy gets a girl pregnant and he wants the child but she doesn't, she gets to choose for both of them, If the woman wants it but the man doesn't she gets to still choose for the both of them and then get access to his money especially considering the messed up family court system? This doesn't even take into account the celibacy men has been increasing and other factors
/r/MensRights23/03/21 05:24 AM
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You are missing a huge point. Most contraceptives work most of the time. So if pregnancy were to arise it would be most likely from a lack of proper contraceptive use. If men can't force a woman carrying a child to term or force an abortion, then at the very least men should be able to opt out of the parental role. It should be at the very least equal as possible
/r/MensRights23/03/21 04:03 AM
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I don't think you are understanding. Your point conveys a passive double standard. You are saying the woman gets to choose if the child lives and gets born vs getting aborted, that means that no matter what the man gets no say. If women get that say in an out-of-wedlock child's life then men should have a say in financial provisions on his part. If the lady didn't want to raise a child in poverty she should also take responsibility to not having someone cum in her vagina, or she could abort the …
/r/MensRights23/03/21 03:11 AM
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Please remember this when people say not all men, but its actually valid most of the time when men say it
/r/MensRights22/03/21 11:57 PM
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The first point removes accountability from women as if birth control doesn't exist. It also makes it seem like women can choose to have different forms of sex with men like oral. On top of that the woman does get bodily autonomy even in the scenario, she is not entitled to the mans finances because the man's financial autonomy should be separate from the woman's bodily autonomy. They are not married. You don't get to just decide which one takes precedent over another so allowing men to opt out …
/r/MensRights22/03/21 10:44 PM
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Be sure to only use the "life sucks" argument only of they use it first though
/r/MensRights22/03/21 10:29 PM
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Allow me to flip the script. If the man wants to have the kid and the girl is able to carry a healthy pregnancy but wants to abort because she doesn't want to go with the hassle of birth, then you'd say "her body her choice" in both scenarios it seems like you aren't giving any autonomy to the man. Equality ISN'T when it favours women Never said it was. If this is true then there should be laws in place to help men in this situation, and you should be supporting them if they don't over step.
/r/MensRights22/03/21 07:19 PM
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People who act like you can't have a different opinion and #killallmen user mostly
/r/MensRights18/03/21 02:25 PM
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Please. You aren’t offended by background checks because they are done by a private company. They always have been, and these companies have always had your data. You were just pissy because of the implication Uh no companies like Twitter and tinder won't get my info on the same level as places like a bank or health insurance would. Simply because I don't think they should and that's why I don't do that. I was pissy about the implications, generalizing men and saying to protect yourselves agains…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 12:06 AM
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You keep trying to make it seem like I'm against women protecting themselves. Protecting yourself and making grandiose statements against men don't go hand in hand. I'm for women taking precautions for themselves and if you'd actually read what I type, I make a case against vilifying men and you seem to quote nothing about that actual point I'm making. You are just grasping at straws trying to change the argument to me being against women. Women should background check if thats what makes them f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:46 PM
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People (again, mostly men but that is irrelevant in the argument) steal stuff, but they are a minority. Should we not lock our doors, have security, be protective of our stuff/information, or be wary of strangers because “notallpeople”? This is a false equivalence because people should take precautions to protect themselves as I have been in favor of in my past comments. I'm not for vilifying men in general for the actions of a very few amount. Go after the people who are actually wronging you i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 07:57 PM
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Because I'm speaking of the US not the world. Idk what goes on in the rest of the planet so I try not to make random claims. When I said "backed up to a degree " I didn't mean my diploma, I meant its backed to a certain extent until it gets past a threshold of nuance and a case-by-case basis to be included for the general population. The world is a big place and you can find or avoid any kind of woman with little effort. Yes but this type of woman is more popular than you think and there are cir…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 06:16 PM
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I see where I messed up in what I said but your last statement proves why men are upset and shows you don't understand the gravity of the situation as a whole. Men do costly rapey violence That generalization stuff is why men are upset it is super sexist and saying it over and over makes men in general seem like enemies when that is far from the truth. The fact that people can't grasp this in it's most basic form is astounding. now we all have to have less fun, more information and more rules. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 04:50 PM
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Because these background checks are being pushed on the grounds that most men are guilty instead of just a safety precaution. And on top of that overlooks the female-to-male domestic violence as it is more difficult to track and makes male dv victims seem like they don't exist. Men are okay with people wanting to be safe but not under a false and hurtful narrative at the expense of themselves and their mental health along with their image.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 04:25 PM
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Right but this is not a small number to overlook is what I'm saying, and then it is backed up to a degree by statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 04:20 PM
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Men are still to blame for killing and raping women even if those who do kill or rape are perceived as more attractive The issue is this casual "men men men" generalization. If a majority of men did these things then generalizing them would be correct. We see this and it gets on our nerves to be lumped in with scumbags when a lot of us don't do anything, are socially punished and then vilified. But if I say something while using the proper words like saying "many women" or "a lot of women" then …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 03:07 PM
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Oh boy do I have a YouTube for you look up Kevin Samuels on YT and you'll see some of the most entitled women on the planet and its not a small few
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 02:49 PM
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all men benefit from male violence. This is how I know this is bullshit. If I a straight man want to meet women but she's on guard because of "past experiences" such as stalking or harassment then you not wanting to meet me doesn't benefit me at all. On top of that if you and women like tou drill into everyone else's minds that men are violent and will stalk you etc etc then I definitely do not benefit from it because people will fear being around me and be on guard looking for ways to vet me ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 02:25 PM
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I saw your comment it has no details
/r/MensRights08/03/21 08:35 PM
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"LiStEn To YoUrSelF. Am I funny yet?" - you probably
/r/MensRights08/03/21 01:42 PM
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This doesn't really belong here imo
/r/MensRights08/03/21 11:25 AM
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Ladies and gentlemen, we gottem
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 07:52 PM
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I understand if this were from more western civilization. But I'm not entirely familiar about the east so I'm giving a benefit of the doubt. Has there been not study conducted for the latter half(men) because if not then I'm with you on this. If there is but its not getting coverage I'm with ya
/r/MensRights07/03/21 07:44 PM
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The women in the video have jobs, they are in a similar situation to us guys on the sub. They shouldn't be getting free shit for nothing but if they choose to not get married they shouldn't be fucked over by family oriented laws that failed to take it into account people who do not want to be married. Showing solidarity to these cases while remaining realistic is how you gain allies, I'm glad to be downvoted for being reasonable
/r/MensRights07/03/21 07:40 PM
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Damn you must suck
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 02:14 PM
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Guys chill they aren't asking for a lot, of course the housing and retirement stuff is on them as individuals but the health stuff is actually concerning. Also this is a focused study does anyone have proof that they don't have a males study?
/r/MensRights07/03/21 02:08 PM
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Yeah I'm with you on this one, I'm just gonna report as misinformation
/r/MensRights07/03/21 02:05 PM
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Yeah their complaints are very valid, the only thing that could be labeled as wrong or unfair is that they don't mention men at all in the video and the wording is off. But it's a focused study so I can understand why they would focus on a specific group, it just happens to be women this time
/r/MensRights07/03/21 02:04 PM
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That point you are trying to make about this being allowed on the sub is a subjective point of view. This sub does highlight mens issues and just because you disagree with this post doesn't mean you should go through the comments calling people incels. You say that this is like r/incels but in this argument you found a sub that is better suited for this type of post that isn't close to being incel related. And a double whammy is when I browsed the sub you linked I found a post that was better su…
/r/MensRights06/03/21 05:59 PM
5

It wasn't just on Twitter though. It was everywhere. It was a huge deal! Many people believed that he deserved prison and a lot of women celebrated on the conviction of someone they don't know. There are a small amount of comments on this thread and from what was seen none of them are even celebrating, they are either somewhat relieved or analyzing the article further for statements they don't agree with. Funny enough the only comment I see saying that MRA is celebrating is one of your comments …
/r/MensRights06/03/21 05:23 PM
3

Okay first off before we get to unpacking this. Were you toting these thoughts to women online when they celebrated Harvey Weinstein's conviction? I'm not saying he is innocent or defending the guy but what did you say to those women?
/r/MensRights06/03/21 05:05 PM
5

Could you tell me what you mean by incel tendencies? Because criticism of the justice system for not delivering properly isn't incel tendencies in my book.
/r/MensRights06/03/21 04:56 PM
6

Hmmmm why is that interesting
/r/MensRights06/03/21 01:51 PM
13

How long have you been on this sub because a couple days ago I saw some improvement posts and support posts
/r/MensRights06/03/21 01:48 PM
32

They ARE bringing up mens issues, sadly being imprisoned and given longer sentences because we are men is an issue. Being perceived as violent and guilty makes decisions to send us to jail at a higher rate and for longer sentences because we are men is an issue. We are not taking delight in a woman being jailed, we are delighted about her getting the correct treatment. Say its a staunch rule that murders will result in 10 years base sentence but frequently when a women is caught for murder they …
/r/MensRights06/03/21 01:47 PM
1

I mean it seems like you don't care so should I even bother listing why you're incorrect? If you want me to I can
/r/MensRights23/02/21 10:08 PM
5

Explain your piece don't play devils advocate
/r/MensRights23/02/21 01:27 AM
27

Explain your piece on why that was your turn off point
/r/MensRights22/02/21 01:39 PM
8

You don't need that rule outside of reddit that comment screams sarcasm
/r/MensRights20/02/21 01:48 PM
1

Amen to that my guy
/r/MensRights14/02/21 09:21 PM
1

Go find a a study please
/r/MensRights14/02/21 07:33 PM
2

You aren't expendable to me so please shut up with this dying bullshit.
/r/MensRights14/02/21 07:32 PM
2

Okay, well then I take back my original claim. I'm glad I was able to pick your brain about this and hopefully I didn't come off angry or pushy I was genuinely curious. I hope you get what you want in life 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 02:48 AM
1

No I wouldn’t ask a man out because I frankly would not trust a stranger not to lie to me and pretend to be interested long enough So then why would men do the same if you could use them for their money? Both sides have similar issues and I feel what I'm trying to figure out is how is this mens fault? The post seems accusatory towards men, and it paints them as pleasure seeking abusers which isn't true. I can agree that the casual dating thing isn't for everyone. So if thats the case then it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 02:37 AM
1

Okay I can better understand what you're saying. But you still didn't elaborate on what you meant on the first sentence of your last paragraph or your og post. And if you don't mind I also wanted to ask, if money on a date is considered effort and your standard would you do the same in reverse? How many times have you actually asked a man out? You said you'd do the same for a guy but thats all talk considering what you've been saying so far
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 02:02 AM
1

Number one is a made up statement. You made up a scenario then put men into a mold in your statement and then treated it as a fact. Just because she is Margot Robbie or she is famous or however you're measuring doesn't mean you get a free meal. If that's how you vet your guys I can't change that, but more guys are realizing they are being used as "free meals" and would rather znot pay for someone who they won't have a chance or seeing again. That brings me to my next point... 2. Not every guy wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 08:44 PM
1

So then how about you initiate interactions with guys you find interesting? That way you know who you are going into a relationship with and they have an idea of what things you like to do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 05:41 PM
1

This is the worst reasoning I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 05:33 PM
2

Because a lot of times people will ask for sources, but then when provided with some they stop replying altogether or they continue arguing without even acknowledging the source that was sent to them. Idk if you do that but it happens a lot
/r/MensRights26/01/21 10:12 PM
2

I hope you're reading that source and not asking for one as a way to tell them to fuck off
/r/MensRights25/01/21 09:41 PM
1

Gigabrain factoid
/r/MensRights25/01/21 01:13 AM
29

Lmao that is not grounds for a claim of insanity
/r/MensRights25/01/21 01:12 AM
4

How is this anti women, it's literally making a joke about people who disregard men in general
/r/MensRights17/01/21 04:43 AM
1

You blame the patriarchy, it's pretty self explanatory. Seeing that once that term is used and then people in the same breath say "all men etc" with something negative you are basically making men the enemy. Why not be more specific about your adversaries and not make it against half of the general population?
/r/MensRights11/01/21 09:17 PM
4

You're telling me that if a huge group of people were to suddenly stop doing their jobs without warning it would cause a structural collapse for the time being because of the vacuum it'd create? And on top that shows that a mass strike is typically a good idea to get the working classes voice heard in order to motivate change in our favor and shows the general benefit of unity? Nahhhh
/r/MensRights05/01/21 08:56 PM
3

I actually got into it on r/askredditafterdark with some people who believe that circumcision has superior health benefits
/r/MensRights01/01/21 03:29 PM
20

Did you even read the article or check it's link before commenting something so randomly baseless?
/r/MensRights01/01/21 03:07 PM
6

I wouldn't say especially women, its just shitty people in general. I hear countless rebuttal from both groups claiming that guys can't be raped
/r/MensRights25/12/20 12:39 AM
2

Honestly this has always been based, I could never wrap my head around people putting so much money on sex and women. People prioritize women, pussy, sex, and reliance on intimate relationships for what? Right now in my life I'm cool with just having friends and I'm okay with not having a ship (I'm still looking) but it's not a priority. Your advice is pretty good, at least in my opinion
/r/MensRights24/12/20 09:18 PM
7

The link isn't working for me 😔
/r/MensRights24/12/20 03:19 PM
1

Haha I figured, thats all I mean for "gender rolls" I'm all fine for guys being guys and girls being girls
/r/MensRights21/11/20 08:31 PM
1

That's fine when I say gender roles I'm more referring to roles like women cook and stay with kids while men work and stuff like that. Unless that's what you already mean?
/r/MensRights21/11/20 08:25 PM
3

Gender roles can be left behind for all I care. It's more of a guideline tbh
/r/MensRights21/11/20 06:11 PM
6

While "metoo" started as a decent idea, believing one side of a story without letting the other get a chance to prove their innocent will cause many people to shrink back. In this case "metoo" causes men to take extra precautions when dealing with women because a single misunderstanding can cause a huge variety of consequences for a guy. And with the current echo chamber of believing the "victims" outright without any rulings and evidence furthers the need to avoid trouble at all costs. Men tend…
/r/MensRights21/11/20 06:11 PM
16

Well that response made me boycott Google, I'm downloading DDG as we speak
/r/MensRights20/11/20 08:35 PM
8

Dude I love this, send it to Google or post it in more places!
/r/MensRights20/11/20 02:06 AM
1

Damn it's crazy how I've seen very supportive feminists where I go not everywhere but more than your crazy brand of feminists. Of course there are misunderstandings but I've talked to some about issues before and they are very well received. And I haven't been mocked for it at least to my face so this post on the other sub is just a blip for me
/r/MensRights19/11/20 08:38 PM
1

These people feel the same as you man. Just like some women have hurt you, some men have hurt them and you all are valid in feeling this way. Don't let someone being angry and throwing out a bunch of generalizations throw you off. You're experienced matter but everyone, men and women can use this opportunity to self reflect and see of they may end up being the person this person is venting about
/r/MensRights19/11/20 06:32 PM
1

Talking about your last point, time is precious if you are talking to someone randomly about something they don't care about AND they don't know you, don't expect them to care. It makes sense if they are busy in one way or another, I could argue no empathy if a friend talked to them but they shrugged it off then I'd get it but it's random dudes... She's venting online, I don't have to care just like you don't have to. You just made a false equivalence man
/r/MensRights19/11/20 06:23 PM
1

This oversimplification is kind of gross because you lost the point of the post. And now the people who read your version go in with bias smh
/r/MensRights19/11/20 06:17 PM
1

So far I've been going through the comments and they're pretty fair. They are talking about their experience which applies only to the guy they are talking about. So far the only person who has taken a general stance against men is the op, it's just a rant to an extent. Is it right for her to say some of what she said? No. But honestly this post isn't something we should be focusing up on. Edit: there is even a thread where a guy brought up some points and it's pretty fair, accurate and is getti…
/r/MensRights19/11/20 06:09 PM
1

Oh okay, makes sense
/r/MensRights13/11/20 08:09 PM
-1

Your first paragraph was mostly good, everything else? Not so much
/r/MensRights13/11/20 07:53 PM
1

This comment didn't go over well haha
/r/MensRights13/11/20 07:48 PM
1

Why would you bring focus to women here exactly? You even said "in my experience" meaning you know there are other ways to look at this situation. I can understand not liking the term toxic masculinity but you're close to starting a whataboutism argument and for what?
/r/MensRights13/11/20 07:47 PM
2

Doesn't make the excuse to cut it off better tho
/r/MensRights10/11/20 07:52 PM
8

Stop making me laugh at my job
/r/MensRights10/11/20 06:56 PM
1

Sorry just woke up and am confused, please explain like I'm 5
/r/MensRights10/11/20 01:41 PM
3

This is the perfect chance to show what we are really about! Show solidarity to those with a nasty history with being a victim abuse. Men and woman, don't focus on the people who seek to look for the worst empathize with those who see these kinds of issues in their day-to-day. Don't blame those who see the wrong just convince them with kind words of understanding. Let your actions show that this treatment is inexcusable and look at the situation as a whole instead of the parts. Parade this vile …
/r/MensRights09/11/20 03:30 PM
7

But this guy didn't want it so... by that logic... he was abused and... this person should be fired. The rules were there, open and shut to a degree so she is in the wrong. Depression can't be fixed by getting laid
/r/MensRights03/11/20 05:04 PM
15

To be fair I mostly see guys say that last line, not saying women don't use that excuse but be fair at the very least
/r/MensRights03/11/20 04:52 PM
2

Could anyone explain to me the issues with the game? I didn't play it but I saw letspksts so my view may not be as complete, but I genuinely enjoyed the second game and it's direction
/r/MensRights21/10/20 03:18 AM
-1

That is obvious sarcasm
/r/MensRights16/10/20 04:50 PM
4

Wow I'm really sure you made an alt account just to say this because you have no spine to have it come to your main
/r/MensRights10/10/20 01:36 AM
14

How dare he practice autonomy by rejecting the soft warm embrace of his female compatriot! High key not a dick, he is allowed to not like and not kiss whoever he wants. It's called consent
/r/MensRights08/10/20 07:53 PM
113

"What you egg?" he stabs him
/r/MensRights08/10/20 07:50 PM
2

We love happy endings
/r/MensRights24/09/20 04:25 PM
1

It's okay take your time 😊
/r/MensRights22/09/20 05:25 PM
21

Wow, why are you here?
/r/MensRights22/09/20 02:23 PM
15

Obviously sarcasm relax
/r/MensRights22/09/20 02:22 PM
8

Could I get some sources? I want to compare
/r/MensRights21/09/20 04:27 PM
8

Yeah please update the situation
/r/MensRights18/09/20 07:19 PM
3

If a decent amount of people don't like the term we should just change it. The fact that people are upset about a change of words is hilarious because it happens all the time lmao
/r/MensRights13/09/20 02:25 PM
3

I wanna say that thats crazy but I'm not surprised
/r/MensRights11/09/20 07:07 PM
1

Such a bitter sweet ending, either way I'm happy for you and the girls! How are they holding up?
/r/MensRights07/09/20 12:34 AM
4

This is the true ending 🥰
/r/MensRights03/09/20 12:36 PM
2

It's okay I talk about it
/r/MensRights03/09/20 12:33 PM
6

If roles were reversed then people would still be upset... and call people out
/r/MensRights02/09/20 02:20 PM
1

I know what purple is
/r/MensRights31/08/20 07:28 PM
2

Not really, I just defend people from being unnecessarily judged and categorized. Things like beta and alpha are useless and only further a toxic mindset, we can do without it
/r/MensRights31/08/20 05:12 PM
2

Don't worry I get what you mean
/r/MensRights31/08/20 12:08 PM
8

Please do research I can hear you losing brain cells
/r/MensRights31/08/20 12:07 PM
8

You would know a thing or two about being disgusting and annoying huh?
/r/MensRights30/08/20 10:28 PM
5

Well said!
/r/MensRights24/08/20 01:38 AM
4

Can we say it louder for those people in the back?
/r/MensRights24/08/20 01:37 AM
0

I more so rejecting the notion that all feminists support this creature
/r/MensRights23/08/20 02:18 AM
1

It's okay
/r/MensRights22/08/20 10:37 PM
-1

That is a very fair point, and can say that I agree, but I disagree that Feminist and MRA can't be in the same boat. I can pull up Feminists who help bring attention to men's issues and boost male positivity, just like you'd do for MRA's who have prominent figures "who did/did not do that" in your comment. MRA's just like Feminists are groups that support movements, just because one wants to boost their own doesn't stop the other from growing unless their actions show this under the guise of goo…
/r/MensRights22/08/20 10:35 PM
0

Not really, my argument is that these specific people who let her speak at a rally are terrible and anyone who agrees with her are also horrible. Not that they aren't true feminists
/r/MensRights22/08/20 09:56 PM
3

Agreed, that's just horrible. I wanna say I don't understand how she didn't get life, but I'd be lying if I said that
/r/MensRights22/08/20 09:43 PM
-7

Thats really fucked up, and those people truly are horrible for bringing someone to a rally like that but it doesn't change my statement, if you are talking about those specific feminists then I'd have no problem with the accusations of the first guy but again I stay away from the "all people do this". I didn't know she was invited to a rally, and the first guys statment didn't make it known either
/r/MensRights22/08/20 09:35 PM
-21

Dude trying to frame it as "all feminists support this" is the same as "all men do this". People need to realize that part of the change is to actually change how we treat people whether in person or online on good safe spaces like this one. I refuse to say "all men do this" or "all feminists do that". It's been going on for long enough
/r/MensRights22/08/20 08:35 PM
-47

Yeah... no
/r/MensRights22/08/20 07:33 PM
2

Can I get a name? I'm researching this now
/r/MensRights12/08/20 04:26 PM
5

This has to be a "Mean Girls" reference
/r/MensRights07/08/20 05:24 PM
9

"His dick outline wouldn't be shown through his pants if he didn't want it" - some sex offender
/r/MensRights04/08/20 08:08 PM
2

Of course! A rebuttal like that deserves some praise even if its off the top of your head or from observations and experiences. I personally have had both parents always there but I've been surrounded by many women role models vs men. The argument got me to look at a different perspective and that gives me something to dive into so thank you for that, I'll definitely let you know of anything whether it confirms or denies your claims when I get around to researching again
/r/MensRights02/08/20 01:42 AM
3

Very interesting point, I apologize for the strawman I didn't realize that I was doing it. I'll definitely have to research that approach because I haven't thought of that as well
/r/MensRights01/08/20 09:51 PM
4

Simple mistakes, no need to apologize 😊
/r/MensRights01/08/20 08:54 PM
7

I don't want to point this out but you said biased towards men and blacks when you may have meant against. A very small thing but it confused me for a bit. But yes that's kind of ridiculous at least they weren't assholes and try to ground you
/r/MensRights01/08/20 08:18 PM
1

Being a good father is important, this comeback is horrible. Maybe not in your like but countless others
/r/MensRights01/08/20 03:14 AM
3

Thank now I can understand why this sub says things the way they do, because I had a different definition of "toxic masculinity". But the use of the definition you seem to run into is sadly the norm which it shouldn't be. You see, toxic masculinity or at least the way I feel it should be said is "when a male tries to bring down other people and try to make them feel bad for not being manly or using manliness against one another." So a guy saying men don't cry to other men and boys is toxic mascu…
/r/MensRights31/07/20 01:13 PM
2

I've read the article it was very helpful, thank you!
/r/MensRights31/07/20 12:54 PM
1

Could you debunk it to me? I always figured that men struggles have been because of a toxic environment created by men and women but mostly men. The reason being the since men have been in a lot of controlling positions through out history they set the agenda to be "macho" and not show emotions/other things we consider unacceptable, and women would follow suit unless they were more progressive. I'm not blind to the fact that some women just hate men, but I felt this to be true in this case. I ha…
/r/MensRights30/07/20 05:52 PM
1

I'd like to get updated if that's possible
/r/MensRights30/07/20 12:31 AM
16

That's great! Not everyone is out to ruin people sometimes it takes one person
/r/MensRights26/07/20 08:10 PM
1

Don't even entertain these arguments unless it comes up in an actual conversation, posting these just gives more voice to the craziest people
/r/MensRights24/07/20 04:17 PM
139

He could probably win a case against her, but idk if it would benefit him a lot
/r/MensRights16/07/20 06:07 PM
6

I hate the term reverse racism used in this snse, it's literally just racism smh
/r/MensRights12/07/20 03:01 PM
7

"Positive" rape Glad these people have proper heads on their shoulders
/r/MensRights06/07/20 07:13 PM
1

All I'm saying is that the sub shouldn't comment against other people suffering it should elevate people, but thanks
/r/MensRights28/06/20 06:06 PM
1

Ngl some of the stuff that have posted is valid. Not the part where they want to go against mens rights, but there should definitely be less getting upset at other groups and work together with other groups
/r/MensRights28/06/20 06:03 PM
1

cuck Hurdur I use cuck unironically, he can mention that stuff easy. Since he didn't I'm making the conclusion that he went nuclear prematurely. Stop being a little prick, your women bias is showing
/r/MGTOW30/01/20 02:19 AM
0

No proof or a sliver of evidence
/r/MGTOW29/01/20 12:17 PM
-2

Learn to read, he broke up with her it doesn't say he said no. Take a reading class
/r/MGTOW29/01/20 12:16 PM
2

She asked my guy, just say no??? Like that's an option
/r/MGTOW29/01/20 02:14 AM
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