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Most of the depression seems to stem from being overly stressed at work and feeling like he should be further along in life than he is. He's extremely hard on himself and holds himself to superhuman standards that are impossible for anyone to reach. It really concerns me how much he beats himself up. Even after accomplishing something that would be impossible for most people he'll still find a reason not to be happy with himself because he feels he should have done even better. He doesn't really…
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/16 02:51 PM
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It's really good that he recognizes it but that won't negate the longterm effort and vigilance this kind of problem can call for...it becomes an entrenched part of your relationship dynamic really quickly and is a very slow to be undone. You're right. In the grand scheme of things I'm glad we acknowledged and started talking about this problem four years in, because while it had already become a part of our relationship dynamic, I'm hopeful that since we recognized it earlier it will be a little…
/r/RedPillWives19/05/16 11:55 PM
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You know, this is a HUGE problem for me when I'm depressed - I get so overwhelmed by too many questions and need things kept simple. I try really hard to put myself in Hub's shoes and look at issues from his perspective, so I can't believe I would overlook something like that. We don't really believe in the "treat others how you want to be treated" thing because we don't like to be treated the same way, but I feel terrible that I didn't piece this together sooner myself. That's a habit I'll have…
/r/RedPillWives19/05/16 11:42 PM
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Wow, I still haven't met any other narcoleptics out in the wild yet! :)
/r/RedPillWives19/05/16 11:25 PM
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Oh, and my dad is great and definitely a great example of strong male leadership. Can't have anyone bad mouthing my dad on the Internet ;-P (kidding, mostly)
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/16 11:05 PM
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I probably could have worded that better. If I read your reply and realized similarities in what you were saying and my behavior it would be a wake up call to stop doing those things. And honestly I only confidently say that isn't the issue in this case because I've been following RP for years and used to behave similarly to what you were saying, so I learned to watch myself really closely on those behaviors to avoid them. Any time I slip up I kick myself, but that rarely happens anymore (meanin…
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/16 11:01 PM
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I have no memory of when I was in psychosis. He says that I was mean in general, but I didn't ask about anything specific I said because I thought it best not to ask him to relive the situation. I apologized for my hurtful behavior, but I really don't know all that behavior entailed. I express my thankfulness for him daily and compliment him all the time. It seems counterintuitive to me that he could feel more secure in the marriage if I tried to be more independent as a wife, but he acts happie…
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/16 03:30 PM
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I can't believe I was late to the party on my own post! I never saw the comments before they were deleted, but from your replies it sounds like it wouldn't have been helpful to me anyway. While I can't see the context, I agree with everything you've said. We have to work on ourselves and our personal issues before we can really move forward in our marriage. It's an unhealthy habit to place all of the blame for anyone's mental health on another individual. I don't believe it is his responsibility…
/r/RedPillWives19/05/16 03:12 AM
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I also heard someone say once that, on a psychological level, we relate to our bodies the same way we relate to our spouse. Somewhat off topic, but it's interesting you mention this because Husband and I were talking just the other day about how he used to really hate massages of any kind (I couldn't even gently rub my palm along his back) because all it would do is tickle him when we first got together. As he learned to trust me more he started liking massages where he's least likely to be tick…
/r/RedPillWives19/05/16 02:45 AM
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He's dealt with depression off and on since well before we met, so it does seem to be something he's prone to. I think it was a combination of seeing me suffering and having to do everything alone, and some issues at work that occurred around the same time that have triggered this most recent bout. For him I think his depression is a little bit brain chemistry and a little bit situational (he's stated so as well). I don't believe he's ever gotten his testosterone checked, but I'm guessing he wou…
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/16 01:50 AM
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He's had periodic episodes of depression for quite some time, so I'm confident that he'll be able to pull himself out again. I guess I'm just more worried about avoiding being a hindrance to his recovery. I know he gets stressed at work and doesn't need extra added to his home life. I agree that the best course of action is probably just to take care of myself and the house, not seek to manage how he handles the issue, and be there for him if there is something specific I can help him with or he…
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/16 01:38 AM
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This doesn't really offer actionable advice and comes across like you misread or misunderstood or skimmed over part of my OP. Trying to fix me because I'm the problem? He spends time researching my illnesses to stay up to date on treatment options and new studies. I'm sure that having a spouse with a chronic illness is difficult and absolutely can make him feel helpless at times, but it's taking it way too far to say I'm THE source. He struggled with depression off and on long before we met. If …
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/16 01:26 AM
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can confirm this. only time i've ever had the urge to fix a woman i was with was when she was causing problems and i wasn't at a point of wanting to leave her. I mean fix my physical ailments, not "fix" my attitude. He doesn't like feeling powerless over me having being sick. your being sexual towards him causing him offense is a big tell that you're the source of his pain. Been that way from day one. Being sexual toward him doesn't offend him, it offends him if he shows me vulnerability (talkin…
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/16 01:11 AM
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I think part of it might be that you were experiencing your difficulties for so long, it's possible that it is going to take him just as long to adjust back to normal. While of course I want everything to be good and happy and wonderful again, logically you are right. I can't expect him to just bounce back immediately from me just about losing my mind. I'm just going to have to keep working extra hard on myself until he sees that he can depend on me again. He takes medication for depression, and…
/r/RedPillWives18/05/16 02:05 PM
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Hi! I missed you guys :)
/r/RedPillWives18/05/16 01:56 PM
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I think it would be helpful to talk to some outside parties about the situation sometimes. I know there are few things worse than making it all about you with a depressed person and I don't want to put pressure on him to play the role of Happy Person if he isn't feeling it, so just being able to vent my feelings of frustration and helplessness to someone who isn't him should be helpful at least to me. Thank you! It's good to be back :)
/r/RedPillWives18/05/16 01:56 PM
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He hates most massages! I think he's the only person I've ever met who isn't into massage. It's not exactly my "go to" when thinking of how I can soothe and relax him, but he does seem to like hand and scalp massages. He also has trouble falling asleep at night sometimes, so tonight I think I'm going to try out giving him a scalp and hand massage to see if it helps him fall asleep more peacefully. It's also a way of relating and communicating that doesn't require discussions. I didn't really thi…
/r/RedPillWives18/05/16 01:52 PM
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I wrote out a whole response and was about to submit when my laptop crashed! I don't have the energy to type everything out all over again, but this was very helpful. I was stressing him out by asking too many questions like "what can I do for you," and saw questions as the enemy and an automatic burden on him, but phrasing it really simply and asking mostly either/or questions would help me just to know I'm spending my time where it's wanted/needed/appreciated instead of just bothering him or e…
/r/RedPillWives18/05/16 01:44 PM
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Take responsibility for what, exactly? I live my life in a way that works for me and makes me happiest, and TRP happens to have been helpful to my marriage. I'm not sure what big picture you're talking about. I'm not going out campaigning to change laws to subjugate women and enforce that we all let our husbands or partners take the lead. Why do I have to "take responsibility" for what I do in my personal life? It affects no one but myself and my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 02:23 AM
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Haha, true. Before I went to study there I watched a lot of German movies figuring it would help me get a jump start on learning some of the pop culture there. As it turned out I was the only one who had watched any of them. The kids at my host school watched Hollywood films almost exclusively.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/15 02:42 AM
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Well, anyone who's telling you letting your wife run things is the Christian thing to do has never actually read what the Bible has to say on marriage, and as far as I'm concerned that's the only really good thing the Bible has going for it so they're really missing out. But I'm not placing blame. It doesn't come naturally to everyone and some even have that natural attitude so discouraged that it's pushed aside completely. It doesn't make anyone less of a person because they've got some growth …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 02:38 PM
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Central America is our favorite place to travel and you have to stick with tourist areas if you want people who speak English. I speak enough Spanish to barely get us by and pick up language extremely quickly so could get by more easily the longer we were surrounded by it, but verbs and vocab comes first with that. I would have to be completely immersed for months to get a hang of the grammar without some sort of formal instruction. To be fair, though, in A LOT of European countries children sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 12:04 PM
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I As a native English speaker this was one of the most annoying things about every language I've studied. Grammar instantly becomes three times more difficult when you've got three different ways to say "the," and you have to conjugate the sentence differently if "the" table is really "this feminine table." If I can't remember the gender of a noun I can't use it as the subject of a sentence for fear of sounding like a fat American dumbass. Are you German? If so, your language programs are infini…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 04:11 AM
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I weep for the amount of student loan debt sunk into what amounts to "for funsies" degrees. Even the people who did decide to follow their dreams and pursue an unusual path probably never got there. Statistically how many people really make a decent living off of being directors, screenwriters, painters, fashion designers, musicians, basically any "dream job" anyone has ever had doesn't end up with a whole lot of slots available. Film majors end up working in the library or Starbucks or selling …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 04:01 AM
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Anyone who is offended by the phrase "you guys" can eat a bag of dicks in hell. Having a penis is basically my worst nightmare. I love being a woman, I practically sweat pure estrogen. When it's a room full of my womanly woman friends and there isn't a male in sight we still use "you guys." It's just a term we use in American English. It isn't any more sexist than the entire language of Spanish, or German, or any other language that weirdly decided all their nouns need a gender attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 03:42 AM
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It's making someone your family, when it comes down to it. Your spouse is your new next of kin. To me that is a package deal. Listing the cold, hard benefits of being someone's family member doesn't make my familial bonds any less important, nor does it take away any of the love I also feel for them. Husband will share in the inheritance when my parents pass, because he is now their son, and same for me. When someone is already your family you don't really think about that stuff. It's just a mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 03:36 AM
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This whole thing had me making a confused face. I don't think the idea is to get just any career. Being productive feels good. It staves off depression. Husband likes knowing that his time is worth a lot of money. It makes him feel more valuable, because he literally is. There are many white color jobs that aren't "wastes of time." Architects (like Husband) leave behind something that will last for generations. They can see the fruits of their labor and take pride in having one of their designs …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 05:47 PM
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I'm honestly surprised to see you ask this. I figured you would know better after all of your posts thus far, particularly since you don't seem argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. Saying no negative or sad emotion should ever be shown to a woman under any circumstances is an extreme view that isn't held by the vast majority of relationship minded RPM. The idea is to not use your wife as your therapist and continually show hopelessness and lack of confidence. The way to avoid not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 02:41 AM
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Husband had already frankly and unambiguously told told me we would be getting married fairly early on. From there I just trusted his time line. He proposed two months after moving in together in a pretty elaborate surprise. I was excited but never concerned, because I didn't think he would lie to me about his intentions. While your SO may not have said it as explicitly as mine, it sounds like he has basically already said he wants to marry you. It's not about the actual proposal. It's about the…
/r/RedPillWomen07/06/15 04:58 PM
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I'm not able to work and currently can't drive either, so most of my days are spent at home by myself. That means he almost NEVER gets the house to himself. Even if I'm awake I try not to really go bother him during his "me time." I do like to get up early with him a few times a month to make a full breakfast and eat together, or sometimes I forget to pack his lunch the night before so I'm putting his lunch together while he has his cereal. I am sort of interested in trying out your routine, tho…
/r/RedPillWomen06/06/15 04:21 AM
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In that case they will never get married. I guess I just don't see the issue. The very bottom tier of humans looks and/or social standing-wise, be it male or female, will probably not have the greatest luck with dating and may very well never find someone. That isn't really news, but certainly something no one wants to talk about or acknowledge. I've seen just as many men leave their wives because they think they can do better but end up never remarrying or severely downgrading because they were…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 09:39 PM
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Hallelujah. I admit that I'm guilty of using the "different roles but equal in value" line, and I'm going to stop doing that. People get into such a tizzy over whether things are fair or equal. Keeping a score card is not healthy. I don't walk around measuring Husband's alpha points and keep constant tabs on his behavior, just as equality between us under his leadership isn't a concept that crosses his mind. OF COURSE this is assuming that both parties are happy in the relationship and obviously…
/r/RedPillWomen05/06/15 09:03 PM
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This was a great read. I just wanted to point out that for those 80 percent of losers there are still women who are bigger losers and will look to them as a catch. That's where hypergamy (in some cases) can work to a man's advantage. There's a girl I know who's probably a 2 or 3 maximum, and she's completely starry eyed over her boyfriend who's like a 3.5 in the looks department and I think works some shitty part time job. But it's a job. And he's not a 1. She's smart enough to know there's no l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 08:45 PM
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Are you a man, or a gay woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 01:48 PM
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Divorce rape is highly overblown and the horror stories discussed are rare, becoming more rare by the day. Not all women who sleep around are going to remotely pine for former flames and going more than a point or two above your own attractiveness level as a woman is not as easy as many seem to believe, though there isn't really a way to show statistics for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 01:43 PM
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I don't understand. The second link is all men commenting. What does that have to do with RPW being hypocrites? Are we hypocrites for not taking everything said by every poster on TRP as gospel because we are supposed to care for some reason? We please our husbands. I see no reason to give a shit of some random dudes think a subreddit to which I belong is lame or shouldn't exist or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 01:28 PM
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I don't think a woman can be a good woman to the wrong man. I'm naturally feminine but dated a lot of men who couldn't be trusted to take charge, so I always ended up taking on that role. Husband is pretty stereotypically masculine, so it left room for me to show my femininity. Honestly if I hadn't met someone as awesome as he is I wouldn't be the woman I am today. I rarely behaved in an obviously slutty manner, only perhaps too much PDA with the person I was out with or being overtly flirty at …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 01:20 PM
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"Alphas" are most often not good LTR material. "Greater betas" are the ones you want for a relationship or marriage because they have the right mix of alpha and beta behaviors. You are mixing this up. Maybe you are disgusted by men who marry because you would rather sleep around, but for a woman who actually wants marriage there is nothing "disgusting" about a man who is both a loyal provider and someone who refuses to take shit and expects his woman to be on top of her game, e.g. greater betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 01:03 PM
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If they did end up well it's probably largely because people don't know about their past and they present themselves as classy women no one would ever suspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 12:56 PM
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Living proof: yup, simply as far as your title goes. But 30 is pushing it unless you're ridiculously hot for your age and step your game up to 11. There's hope, but it would be a difficult road. Why? Well, first of all, if you're out drinking and smoking with the same regular crowd chances are you've developed a reputation that is going to attract men who aren't marriage material. A man who makes good money and is "alpha" is probably not going to waste his time considering a current or extremely…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 12:50 PM
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I do think you're being a bit dramatic about it. I take care of the bills and keeping track of savings, budgeting, and knowing how much is in our account at any time. When Husband asks if he can get something what he really wants to know is how much is in the account. If he asks you whether or not he can fill his tank just say "we have x dollars in checking right now and x dollars of bills that will need to come out of that" and he can decide for himself. Unless this is his way of subtly showing…
/r/RedPillWomen05/06/15 12:39 PM
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Husband's and my relationship was pretty much built on humor and playfulness from the very beginning, so I don't have this exact problem, but while our issues manifest themselves in different ways, it sounds like we have the same underlying problem. I have a REALLY difficult time transitioning, meaning if I'm reading an article or watching TV or doing the dishes or whatever it is, if someone tries to talk to me I won't realize it until they're a few sentences in. I get very focused on whatever I…
/r/RedPillWomen04/06/15 06:09 PM
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Exactly. If a man is constantly thinking about sex anyway, obviously unless he's got an issue he isn't feverishly masturbating several times a day or raping any woman who gets close enough. It's not even that big a deal if a man has imagined you sexually, because chances are he's imagined just about every even decently attractive female sexually. The problem is only if you lead him on or he tries to act on those thoughts. I don't see why people make such a big deal about those thoughts being the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:39 AM
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Uh, no. I'm not reporting to him like a child would a parent. I'm reporting to him like a wife should to her husband. Neither of us would go out and make a $500 purchase without informing the other, and I personally find it fucked up when spouses make completely unilateral decisions on finances, or at least completely not discussing at all with the other where that money is being spent. I'm a married woman. There is no such thing as my money or his money and in no way is that childish. I don't u…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 04:33 PM
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So maybe he's in less debt than she is. This is becoming more and more common. A pretty great deal of couples don't even have any assets to speak of to split up after a divorce, so the whole "losing half your shit" thing might leave you pretty bummed out about your flat screen and toaster oven, but that's about it in many cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 03:01 PM
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I am currently close to being technically underweight and Husband has never found me hotter. That said, by the actual definition of curvy, which has to do with hip to waist/hip to bust ratio and not overall weight, I am still very curvy. When I was more chubby I probably fit the actual definition of curvy even less. I think it's more rare for men to like a boyish figure - minimal to no hips, butt, or boobs - but there is a definite middle ground there. A slim woman can still be a curvy woman. Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 01:48 PM
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When I told my Husband after I could no longer work that I felt bad about not contributing financially to the family, he told me that time, to him, is money. After achieving more success in his field his time becomes worth more and more money. If I can save him several hours a week by taking care of his meals, running the house, keeping track of his scheduling, handling his errands, bringing him things to work if he forgot them so that he doesn't have to take the time to drive back home, I am ef…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 01:22 PM
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I see the whole men and women can't be friends thing like this: sure, maybe these male friends would fuck their female friends if they had the chance, but that doesn't mean they're thinking about it constantly or scheming to make it happen. Just because if they were left alone with you in a secluded location and the alcohol was flowing and the timing was just right they would happily get it on with you, doesn't mean they are only in it for the hopes of sex one day. I don't care if the thought of…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 01:07 PM
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Why is it always assumed that the men in these situations are rich? For more and more of the population she's going to be sharing in their mutual debt after the divorce, effectively taking negative money instead of his hard earned cash and assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 12:52 PM
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Thing is, it's about the right mix. That's a point often missed by TRP and MRP. I'm not turned off by Husband crying, and in fact am glad he's comfortable enough around me to let himself, but I would absolutely be turned off if that were a frequent thing. One of the biggest turn ons and things that make me crazy about him is his stoicism and how he's so able to be objective and put his emotions aside when warranted. But you're absolutely right in that I do need to know I'm important to him, or t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 06:04 PM
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Sorry, but I don't understand how this relates to my post at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 03:14 AM
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One more point toward marrying someone with the memory of a goldfish!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 10:33 PM
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Hmm, I think maybe we took the prompt in a different direction. Your view is that it is still braver to seek a relationship high in vulnerability than to choose otherwise? Correct me if I'm wrong on that. I took it more as almost indiscriminate, like being vulnerable always, with everyone you date shows confidence and bravery. It's admittedly hypocritical of me, because BPers tend to make their arguments based on the assumption that any RP man is an asshole and couldn't possibly treat me well. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 08:51 PM
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Isn't the stereotype that some supposedly dickhead thing you said will keep coming up for years and not that your wife is going to remember that one time you cried and give you shit about it forever?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 08:34 PM
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I read over this a couple of times, but I don't really see where we disagree. Your tone is reading like you are making a counterargument, but it seems like we already hold basically the same view. Point of clarification, though: Husband doesn't need to tell me that he's manipulated me because I know him as well as he knows me and I can tell that he's doing it. Also he makes it purposefully obvious most of the time (his main tool "against" me is humor). It's usually something very simple, like wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 08:31 PM
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No problem, thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 01:38 PM
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Not to derail, but what the crap, dude, are you ALWAYS awake? Your responses range anywhere from 4am to... Well, any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 10:48 AM
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It's a fine line between confidence and idiocy. A line too many cross in the name of "bravery."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 10:47 AM
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Depends. It is all about finding the right person and waiting until they've proven themselves. Throwing your true vulnerability out there, and I'm not just talking about opening up about the time your grandma died, is not inherently brave, unless you count being reckless and naive as bravery. It does take bravery to trust someone in that way, but that doesn't mean it's a virtue to throw around or be particularly proud of. And again with the assumption that all manipulation is bad. My Husband can…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 10:40 AM
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Long-term/ongoing: Be more pleasant/less grouchy Maintain my appearance Learn not to be as hard on myself Be more efficient in general I recently set different standards for my daily minimum expectations. I was trying to do a certain amount of chores per day, but now my minimum is just making sure Husband has his lunch packed for the next day, clothing to wear, and a clean spot to sit and relax when he comes home from work. I've rearranged my chore board, but just being really consistent in what…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 09:31 PM
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Haha, I think it's important to keep in mind that no matter how objective I try to be, I'm naturally going to make myself sound better online. In many ways he's lucky, but overall I think I'm the lucky one ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 10:49 PM
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I only wish Husband loved me as much as he loves his damn cat. He's obsessed with that thing. I'm surprised he hasn't gotten a baby bjorn to carry him around in. (only halfway joking)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 10:23 PM
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Assuming you are using masculine and dominant interchangeably in this case, technically you could. I am not in the least bit masculine but still quite dominant with women. I have played the dominant role with men as well, I just didn't like it as much. I think it gives me kind of a unique perspective on RP stuff, but I hear a lot of other bisexual people say that once they're in a relationship with one gender they have no particular longings for the other. Yeah, no. Not in my case. And it's kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 10:21 PM
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Why's that? I sort of wish I weren't. It makes life inconvenient and frustrating in many ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 07:54 PM
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I think that Husband loves me for who I am, but what someone can bring to the table is inextricably linked to who they are as a person. My utility to others is how I derive my value. "Who I am" is someone who loves to display my affections and make the lives of my loved ones easier. By what other metric could I use to determine the sort of person I am as a whole? Of course I have flaws, but Husband loves me because he feels that part of who I am is outweighed by the positive parts of who I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 07:53 PM
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I hear this men love women for who they are and women love men for what they provide thing a lot, and I think it's silly. Why do your looks mean more about "who you are" than your ability to provide? A man who loves me because I'm pretty, or even because I'm nice, does not love me for who I am. I don't think most women specifically love what men provide. They aren't in love with their shiny new car, but they are in love with a man who is able to provide that. So how is that not loving him for wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 07:46 PM
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I don't know, you should see my Husband with his cat and our dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 07:36 PM
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Hahahaha! Yes. I figured that would go without explicitly stating. Sorry, that question just cracks me up so much in contexts like this. ;-P
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 07:25 PM
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I am not a man so I can't say whether Husband or any other man loves me the same way I love them. There's no way for me to get into their heads like that. Jesus christ, Husband least of all. He's a borderline robot that isn't programmed to express human emotion. I do know that the way I have loved women is very different from the way I've loved men. My love for female partners has been protective, and probably with fewer conditions aside from pleasantness and physical beauty. It is no more sacri…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 07:03 PM
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what is your pill? Red What you do? Stay at home wife right now, so I guess my job is just running the house and keeping Husband happy What do you do in your spare time? Crochet. Browse reddit, particularly reading the stories on /r/nosleep what types of entertainment do you consume? Sex, movies, TV, books, probably about the same as anyone else if you had to fight a bear or a pack of wolves who from your side would knee cap to get away? Pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 04:49 PM
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How are a few scripted flirtatious behaviors that a guy is using to get over his nerves faking his entire personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 04:37 PM
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Yes :( for me absolutely. Husband will ask me what I want and I try to just tell him to get a refresher from RP, or in the case of romance try to be vague like "presentation is 99%." If I know someone else advised him to do something it's different from me being the one to tell him. Who knows, it could be the opposite for some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 04:35 PM
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Are you on antidepressants? I couldn't orgasm at all when I was on SSRIs, and normally it's really easy for me. Sex didn't even feel that good when I was on them. So it could be medications, or probably depression too even though I personally didn't experience lack of enjoyment, just lack of drive, which you've said is the opposite for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 04:32 PM
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Absolutely. I have used RP on women before knowing what it was, so obviously I recognized it coming from other men. Some men are good at it, some aren't. If they are employing it well I don't see why I should care if I understand the "formula" for attraction. I don't magically become attracted to something else just because I learn what I'm attracted to generally fits a certain pattern. Husband knows about TRP and introduced me to RPW. I know what he's doing and the term for it when he's doing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 04:27 PM
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One should strive to act with compassion and empathy towards all creatures in accordance with reason. The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions. One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone. The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo your own. Beliefs should conform to our best scientific understanding of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 04:05 PM
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You've only been together for a month. He's accustomed to being treated poorly and you haven't had time to prove to him that you won't do the same. Husband had a very bad experience with his ex and even to do this day I still have to suffer the occasional consequences. It definitely took me longer to earn his trust, but the only thing you can do is keep showing him you are trustworthy and wait until he's seen sufficient evidence.
/r/RedPillWomen25/05/15 06:30 AM
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I see nothing whatsoever wrong with hypocrisy when it comes to seeking a partner. Rarely does someone want the exact same things from a partner that they can offer themselves. Honesty is the only thing that matters. Even men who want to sleep around on a faithful wife can sometimes find women who are willing to agree to that arrangement. Hypocrisy means next to nothing in this context. Only deceit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 09:59 PM
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How small is small? A woman in her mid-30s could have 20 partners without having been particularly promiscuous, but a woman in her 20s who started early could rack up just as many partners while still getting married at a young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 09:57 PM
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Unless they don't wind up getting to their 30s and still end up settling down fairly young.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 09:24 PM
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Not inherently, no. I know a few men (and women) who were pretty promiscuous but fell head over heels for the right person. When you care very little about most people you can kind of save it up for a small handful and a highly disproportionate amount of your affections go to your favorite people. Husband has a small fraction of sexual partners in comparison to me and sex doesn't mean anything more to him than it does to me, at least by any measure either of us can discern. On the other hand I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 09:21 PM
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I wasn't really referring to your post judging men. Perhaps I went off on a bit of a tangent actually. It's just a very common thing to see women who want to commit to men who aren't ready, so the men are villainized and made to seem like manchildren who are just too immature. I just don't think because their priorities may be inherently different doesn't make them immature losers or something. But again, I didn't think you were claiming such, just that it's a common trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 08:56 PM
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In spite of my RP affiliations I do not necessarily agree with blanket statements like this. All of the studies I have read on the subject have concluded that women mature socially and emotionally more quickly than males, whether that is an innate or cultural quality. However, that says nothing about later in life. It makes sense that women would be ready for serious relationships earlier. My Husband cannot even begin to understand the pressure of the biological clock. It isn't a factor he even …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 08:05 PM
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And there's the added frustration of women who claim to be bisexual but are actually just experimenting and rarely reciprocate sexually and then end up cheating on you with some dude, BUT WHATEVER, ASHLEY, I'M OVER IT. Heh heh. But yeah, I think this question was kind of flawed in the first place. It's often a different type of frustration, so you can't equate them exactly, but it doesn't necessarily mean one causes "more" suffering (as if it's some sort of competition anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 07:52 PM
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Yeah, smaller percentage of the population means it's risky to hit on another woman in the first place. I don't think in that case it's so much the constant rejection, but that the potential pool is so small to begin with. Subtle difference, but not to be discounted in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 07:07 PM
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There is a big difference between victim blaming and saying a woman made bad choices that put herself in a dangerous situation. Someone else's poor actions are not the fault of the victim, but it's absurd to act as though the expectation of some level of personal accountability is offensive. Don't get too drunk at a party is good advice, no matter the gender. Your comments read as though acknowledging bad decision making (doesn't matter if it's an "accident," as accidents are usually the result …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 07:03 PM
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Those aren't even the grossest of the gross, though. Believe it or not there are uglier women even than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 06:14 PM
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Are you seriously saying that it's unreasonable to suggest a woman not drink to the point of blacking out in a place full of strange people because that's putting herself at unnecessary risk? Would you advise that a man shouldn't have to avoid getting blackout drunk? Because I certainly wouldn't. That behavior isn't safe for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 03:43 PM
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...do you actually know anything about satanism? Its main tenets are the most obvious form of morality, actually fairly similar to Christianity minus the spiritual mumbo jumbo.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 03:37 PM
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Had to check to make this sure this wasn't a CMV. I agree with you SO HARD. I've made people cry treating them like I like to be treated. I would be flat miserable if Husband treated me like he likes to be treated. I like people who make jokes at my expense, as long as those jokes are funny. Trying being someone like me and humiliate others in public and let me know how it works. If anything following that rule "successfully" means you must be the most boring person on the planet who just wants …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 03:34 PM
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No shit women don't have to deal with the same level of anger and frustration at not being able to find a sexual partner, unless she's really hideous, but maybe not even then. Who really argued that women have just as hard a time finding sex than men do? If you're talking about being partnered up and not getting enough, absolutely we can experience similar effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 03:25 PM
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You may also find the work of Harry Harlow interesting, which also promotes the idea that lack of love and bonding harms social animals' cognitive abilities and causes learning disabilities, depression, and in some cases psychosis. Babies not given adequate love and bonding regardless to receiving general care such as adequate food and shelter also are likely to have cognitive delays and other learning issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 11:57 PM
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Skull size and shape can tell us a lot, but a lot of it has to be done by figuring out the similarities of their skull size and shape in comparison to modern day animals that evolved from them or are otherwise similar. http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/t-rexxx-how-dinosaurs-lived-loved-and-tasted-q-a-with-dr-mark-norell-american-museum-of-natural-history
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 10:45 PM
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I have a genetic connective tissue disorder which effects my joints, heart and blood vessels, and also my digestive system, so another reason I don't like eating is that sometimes it makes me feel like I'm being stabbed since my stomach can't empty right. So the lack of food definitely isn't the only issue but I know it has to be strongly exacerbating my already existing issues. When I can eat just a couple of bites at a time of food that is high in nutrients it prevents the pain from being as b…
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/15 02:23 PM
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I really like the idea of spacing out chores I can do while sitting down with my other chores. That should help prevent a lot of pain building up. When I'm up running around all day a lot of times I'm out of commission the next day because of pain. And chores I can do while seated will feel a lot better to me than just sitting and totally taking a break, because then I kind of lose my cleaning inertia.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/15 01:28 PM
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I have lost about 20 lbs in the last year or so due to my poor eating habits so I'm about 3lbs from being underweight. That is according to the BMI scale, though, which is extremely flawed. I have the bones of a bird so can probably afford to weigh less than most without it really being unhealthy. That said, I would like to maintain my weight but weight loss isn't really a goal at this time. Peanut butter is a great idea since I can just grab a spoonful to go. If I set aside a day for cooking I …
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/15 01:21 PM
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Munching throughout the day is much better for me. I have gastroparesis (my stomach has a very hard time emptying so I can get a lot of pain, nausea, and bloating if I overeat or eat certain things), so snacks throughout the day are best for me instead of a meal. Unfortunately I haven't kept enough snacks on hand, so a "snack" becomes a meal, and I can end up getting grouchy and shaky by the time Husband gets home from work and we can eat the dinner I prepared. I will definitely focus more on fi…
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/15 01:09 PM
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Exactly my issue - it is so difficult to stop cleaning once I've gotten on a roll, but that often ends up meaning that by the time Husband gets home from work and the next day I am in so much pain that I end up on the couch barely able to move. I will check her out and try my very hardest to cut myself a break sometimes and add caring for myself to my list of "to do" things. :)
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/15 12:51 PM
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15 minutes per room is a great idea. I can tend to get into too much of a routine and it makes it boring and harms my motivation and productivity in the meantime. I normally focus on deep cleaning one room at a time, but I think I am going to start alternating that with the 15 minutes in all room so I can at least get them all straightened up, even if that means they aren't spotless, since I can come back to them later. Plus once I deep clean one room and the next day focus on another, the last …
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/15 12:48 PM
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I DEFINITELY set my expectations too high, which sets me up for failure and disappointment. I had a chore list, but I just made one big list that contained every single chore i do in the house. I think it's a much better idea to make separate lists of things that need to be done daily, weekly, and monthly. I think I will actually work on putting that together today. Thanks, that is great advice! :)
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/15 12:42 PM
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He is not a very emotive person, so he doesn't naturally tell me when I've done a good job or whether I'm living up to expectations. When he seems "off" he often won't explain why, and if I ask if there's anything he wants to talk about he usually won't admit it if it's because I've fallen short of what he expected, only to bring it up days later. It's a problem we have that we need to work on but haven't yet come up with a compromise. Last night I suggested to him that I take one month of not t…
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/15 12:34 PM
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Haha, exactly! I can't even get through a whole episode without compulsively trying to clean up any part of the house within view of the TV while I'm watching.
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/15 08:07 PM
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Starting to incorporate exercise into my day has helped my sleep a lot, where previously I have had a lot of sleep problems. Both of those gave had noticeable effects on my wellbeing overall. Honestly I can't say with a straight face that my eating habits are where they should be. I'm not anorexic or anything like that where I avoid foods for reasons that are unhealthy, but I really don't like eating. I have to force myself to do it. I've been trying to figure out some really simple things I can…
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/15 06:14 PM
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I've reiterated it several times in this group but I'm not sure if you're familiar with my contributions so I will go ahead and reiterate again: I have had many partners. Enough that TRP would definitely think I was slutty. I don't look down on women who are similarly slutty, so much that I don't even get hurt or offended by that word, because it matters so little to me. Now on to my counterargument: all of those positives you listed aren't necessarily true. Just because you've been with a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 02:48 PM
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My very worst fear is becoming one of "those" wives who enjoy their husbands' money without keeping up with their end of the deal. With me not working outside the home, I talked with him last night about it and said I needed to shift my focus from just "running the house" to specifically "making sure he is taken care of." If he only has to prepare his own meals once in a blue moon, never has to worry about whether or not he has clean clothes to wear to work the next day and a living environment …
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/15 02:18 PM
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There are consequences to having many partners whether or not you get pregnant or an STD. Besides, I could completely not care less how many people other women have banged unless I'm trying to be the next number on that list.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 02:00 PM
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You know, when I brought up my insecurities about this arrangement with Husband he told me that as his income increases his time is going to be worth more money. If I can serve him to the point that he needs to think about absolutely nothing aside from what projects he most wants to work on instead of taking up what could be relaxation time packing his own lunch, doing the dishes, and worrying about whether or not he has enough clean socks in the drawer it's not going to lead for more free time …
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/15 05:22 AM
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This is an interesting take on it. I recently had to stop working and have been really down on myself about it. I've felt like I'm just "staying at home" being a mooch. Not that I currently sit around eating bonbons and watching daytime television all day long, but even just shifting the idea of daily chores into part of my job now somehow makes it feel different to me. It currently seems that since I have no job my days are a bit disorganized and I feel a lot of guilt when taking hardly any fre…
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/15 03:17 AM
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I haven't seen it but appreciate the review. This definitely makes me want to give it a watch. I try to stay away from the whole reality television stuff as much as possible (except for hoarders. Ha!), but this sounds like maybe it could provide some good ideas and apparently some motivation on what not to do.
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/15 02:53 AM
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At first I felt kind of bad when I read the nap comment because I have a chronic illness that gives me ridiculously low energy, but wow. I get run down and tired extremely easily but even I can't imagine not getting up until 11 and still needing a nap after just a few small chores. Maybe I'll have to watch that episode sometime when I'm feeling bad about myself! Haha
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/15 02:47 AM
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Right. I'm saying that isn't an argument. "This should be banned because it goes against my own personal moral code" is not sufficient in a debate setting. If it's a simple yes or no sure. But the point of a debate is to defend your position, not just state your opinion without any sort of justification for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 12:05 AM
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Disclaimer: this is not my opinion but rather what I understand from studying evolutionary biologists. If you have an opinion that contradicts scientific theory I don't really care because I think it's a safe assumption that Richard Dawkins (for example) knows far more than you do on the subject. If you have evidence that shows my understanding is flawed I would be happy to hear of it. Dinosaurs had protective instincts toward their young but did not have the part of the brain that allows for lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 11:39 PM
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We haven't evolved past love, and very likely won't. An individual does not "evolve" not to love. You can choose to deny your base instincts but that doesn't mean you've reached such a grand level of intelligence that you've evolved past them. Also, it's not a lizard brain thing. Reptiles don't love. The ability to love didn't come until fairly recently in the grand scheme. It's a pretty new adaptation that is not shared by more primitive animals. It's pretty cutting edge and fancy, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 10:41 PM
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Any time you eat a pork chop you are running the risk of being infected with a parasite. In many cases you could easily claim someone inflicted a parasite on themselves. Mistakes and accidents happen. If you purposefully get pregnant only to abort you clearly have some issues. In the case of accidental pregnancy I see no reason a woman should be forced to carry to term and "It's your fault for getting pregnant in the first place" is not a compelling argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 10:33 PM
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Where does that gut reaction stem from? To me that's only disturbing because it shows a high level of lack of sexual education and access to birth control in those areas. In that case the first goal to tackle is not reducing abortions, the issue is providing education and birth control and reduced abortions will naturally follow. The question isn't "should all of these women be allowed to have abortions," but rather "how can we prevent unwanted pregnancy in these areas?"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 10:26 PM
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So it's the more moral choice to go through with the pregnancy and carry to term and then dump the baby in a trashcan to let nature take its course? What makes "leaving it up to nature" different when leaving it to nature in practice would mean the same thing as just killing it? That's like setting up a booby trap for someone to fall into and refusing to call for help and justifying by saying you didn't actually kill them, you just let nature run its course.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 10:20 PM
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I didn't say it should be legal to abort at any time. I said it should be legal to remove the fetus from her body at any time. If she's only a few weeks in there's no point in trying to extract it in one piece because it's already known that it won't survive. I think the current abortion laws in most of my country are fine and don't want them changed, though some states are chipping away at those laws or changing them to make abortion much more difficult. I wouldn't mind seeing the law expanding…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 09:48 PM
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If the effect on the mother would be almost no different either way the only reason to abort one day before the due date would be for shits and giggles. I guess it depends on your definition of "acceptable." That is illegal and even if it weren't I doubt there are many, if any, doctors who would perform that procedure. If for some reason it is determined that a woman will die in 24 hours if the baby isn't out of her by then they would just induce labor. She should be able to remove the baby from…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 09:25 PM
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This, exactly. I have an automatic giggle response when I hear people say it's immoral. According to whom? That isn't a real argument at all. In the context of a debate it's little more than a bit of word salad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 08:21 PM
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Who said anything about it being an easy decision that should be made on a whim? In what I am responding to you said nothing about making the decision carefully. You said they'll feel guilt and regret for the rest of their lives. Well, no. Not every woman who aborts feels significant guilt and regret, nor does it necessarily plague them for life. A pretty significant amount of women who have one abortion end up having another at some point. If they were that racked with guilt and regret after th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 08:16 PM
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No, because they don't have opposable thumbs or knowledge of medical technology. They'll just leave their babies to suffer and die of neglect after they're born, just like any other animal who doesn't want their offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 08:12 PM
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If women had their way the human race would die out and women in patriarchal societies only have children because they're forced. So it seems to me that is almost exactly what you said. Being pro choice does not mean you would make the choice to get an abortion yourself, only that you think other women should be able to make that choice for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 07:56 PM
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I was pregnant and miscarried. I didn't mourn the loss of my "child," because it wasn't a child. It was only the potential to grow into a child. I don't carry anywhere close to the kind of anguish I would if I had lost it in the third trimester or shortly after birth. I just don't view them as equivalent at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 07:52 PM
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Right, because any woman who has ever had an abortion regrets it -.-
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 07:48 PM
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Not in any significantly different way than it being murder if I kill a cow to eat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 07:47 PM
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Right. I don't really take it that seriously if someone is pro life but still eats meat. A pig has about the intelligence of a four year old human, but we are cool with killing them for our own comfort (their meat is no longer needed for our health or survival, now we just do it because they taste good). I don't really see some random potential human life with no self awareness as being inherently more valuable than any other animal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 07:45 PM
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That's what Husband and I talked about before marrying. He had a bit of a strained relationship with his family and we didn't like the sound of my name with his last name. It ended up being way too difficult and too much pressure to come up with a new name, so I just took his and now I'm glad I did. If I had my mom's maiden name he said he would have preferred to take my name, but I agree that I would have felt a bit weird about it.
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/15 07:39 PM
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A lot of professional women take their husbands' last names legally but still continue to use their maiden name professionally. That is a very common way to go about it for actresses and professional musicians who are already well known by their maiden names.
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/15 07:34 PM
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Even if they don't take their husband's last name chances are they've got their father's last name, or their grandfather's. Gripe about patriarchy all you want, but it's not like you are "outsmarting the patriarchy" by not taking your husband's name. Marriage is the joining of two people to create a new family of their own. My nuclear family will all have the same last name until my daughter (if I have one) grows up to marry and decides to change her name. Then her new family will all share a na…
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/15 07:30 PM
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Unlikely, at least in the near future. All people would have to be sterilized before they reached puberty if we were to completely replace regular pregnancy with artificial wombs. Transferring an unwanted fetus from the mother to an artificial womb would likely kill the fetus anyway. As long as women are physically capable of pregnancy abortions will exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 07:17 PM
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So she should be able to have labor induced at 24 weeks and give it a shot to survive without her then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 07:14 PM
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Chances are you would still love your brother and be glad he was born even if he had Downs Syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 07:12 PM
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Right, because all pro choice women will get an abortion at some point, maybe even just for kicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 07:08 PM
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It fits the exact definition of a parasite. Just because most women are happy and willing to allow it to stay there doesn't make it not a parasite.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 07:00 PM
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Because before it leaves the womb it is a parasite, a squatter taking residence in a place it is not welcome (in the case of women who would want an abortion). If I don't want something else living inside of me sucking away my nutrients, making me tired and sick and ruining my body, I shouldn't have to. Why does something with about the capacity for thought of a baby goat get more rights and considerations than I do? If a man just decided to move into my house without my permission, it doesn't m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 06:05 PM
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Lol, punished how??? Like jail time?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 05:59 PM
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While I disagree entirely I don't think that's even an argument worth having because both sides have their reasons and never the two shall meet. But out of curiosity, would you be okay with abortion in the case of rape or incest, or should it be strictly in the case of life or death for the mother or an unviable fetus?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 05:49 PM
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I haven't watched the show, but Tony Soprano is a really bad example because he is fat and balding. Even with the most solid frame possible I don't think I could find him attractive. Haha. Would Al Pacino's character in The Godfather work as a substitute? I feel like I have to already find someone physically sexy to answer to that. If so, I think at best I would want to turn a blind eye to it and not hear about it. Being able to defend yourself if attacked physically is something I would prefer …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 05:24 PM
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There's some statistic that pro life people use that's suppose to shock people and upset them about how something like a million fetuses have been aborted in the US since Roe v Wade. I hear that number and think "wow, that's really awesome. Good for us."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 05:05 PM
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And if she had non-impulsive sex with protection? It's nice to think an issue like this can be black and white, but it isn't. Telling yourself that any woman who gets pregnant unintentionally wound up that way because she's irresponsible is a nice little narrative, but it's also bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 05:01 PM
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What does this have to do with PPD? Abortion is not a sexual strategy. I'm pro choice, but I don't use that view to get my Husband all hot and bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 04:57 PM
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My face when I read the title was about like this: 8-O But after reading the body, I completely agree that not all actions that some define as "rape" are immoral, and it's laughable to even think that in some cases. Forcing unwanted sex on someone who has made it clear that the advances are unwanted is never a morally righteous act. Even if you consider it rape for a guy to have sex with a girl who didn't say "no" and seemed into it but didn't say "yes" either I don't think you can really call i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 04:54 PM
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I think it's really arrogant to tell a guy to shoo in the assumption he wants to fuck you as soon as he opens his mouth to speak to you. At least give him a chance to speak. Maybe he really does just want to bum a cigarette and make small talk for a minute and isn't planning to try to take you home. That's actually a thing that happens. If he asks to buy you a drink or he clearly stands to lose something then it's the time to politely decline, not when all he's said is "hi." I deal/dealt with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 04:17 PM
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I don't think most men are really going to be helped by this. Destroying a stranger's confidence and making them feel like shit isn't super likely to make them think "she's right, I am ugly! How helpful, now I know what to work on." For most it would be more likely to make them bitter and depressed than spark positive change.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 04:07 PM
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I already stated that I don't think men who don't lead in their relationships are necessarily effeminate or girly. These are RP definitions of masculinity and femininity. I don't care to go on about "true" masculinity and femininity because that argument could go on for days and isn't really all that interesting to me. Again, I didn't say gender is an "excuse." That's kind of the point of traditional relationships - I married a man who does prefer to take that responsibility and wouldn't want it…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 03:55 PM
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Haha, no worries. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 03:45 PM
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It's a pretty huge and silly logical jump to go from "cake is nothing but a certain arrangement of atoms/love is only the result of instinct" (both true) to "therefore you should never take any kind of pleasure in eating cake and you should fight your bonding instincts at all costs." I really am having trouble understanding how that jump could even be made. I really don't "get" people who think that understanding how something works ruins that thing. Yes, cake is still delicious to me even if it…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 03:44 PM
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I won't try to convince you that I know your friends better than you do, but this seems extremely disingenuous or like you are looking for more extreme versions of those traits. It seems like if TRP said "all women need to eat food to survive" you would refute the claim. Emotions are often a physiological response that happens before the brain has time to process why that response is happening. There is absolutely no possible way you have never met a woman who hasn't had an irrational emotion, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 03:33 PM
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How does not making the calls imply a lack of character or conviction, or of cowardliness? Preferring not to be in charge if given the option does not automatically mean that the thought of taking charge is just too frightening to bear. Masculinity is leading, femininity is being led, yes. But that says quite little about the driving factors of those roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 03:16 PM
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I agree that for the most part that on average the whole women being more emotional thing is bullshit. However, I think it's equally as silly to say that men are the more emotional sex. Men are less likely to seek help for their emotional issues, and often that help is less available or more shameful to men even if they do seek it. They are far more likely to commit suicide not because they are more emotional, but because they don't have the same outlets for those emotions that women do. The eff…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 02:17 PM
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Younger women are usually hotter. They're still perky in all the right places and youthful in the face, which is pretty universally found attractive in females. As far as less sexual experience, maybe a certain part of that is insecurity ("if she's been with a bunch of other people I'm statistically likely to not be the best she's had"). In many cases, though, I think being turned off by high partner count women is a visceral thing, and attraction cannot be negotiated. If a man just isn't attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 12:13 PM
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Did you miss where I said I have taken the typically masculine role in most of my past relationships, including my most recent girlfriend (we broke up like two weeks ago so I'm not talking about the distant past)? Husband wouldn't have married a woman without character or conviction. Do you have some sort of weird animosity toward women in traditional relationships or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 12:03 PM
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Your mom is the only woman you know who is even the slightest bit or for the most fleeting moment attracted to higher status men? Your mom is the only woman you know who sometimes has irrational feelings, even if she doesn't act on those feelings? Really, your mom is the only person you know who ever projects her own feelings out into the world, even if she is capable of taking a step back and realizing people are different and what's right for her isn't right for everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 11:58 AM
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Hahaha. Oh, Calvin.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 11:27 AM
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Coward? What does that even mean in the context of romantic relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 11:26 AM
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They exist in men as well to an extent, certainly. Honestly none of the women in your life show any amount of the traits I listed? If that is the case I'm not certain I believe your friends are human. I put negative in quotations because I don't think those things are inherently bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 11:25 AM
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Human babies are some of the most weak and vulnerable of the animal kingdom. Also, babies are really annoying. They're loud poop machines that provide nothing but take quite a bit. If we didn't evolve to love we wouldn't have survived as a species. We love our babies so they don't starve to death or get murdered, and we love each other because it takes teamwork to keep our babies alive. This is not pseudoscience evopsych bullshit that just sounds like it probably makes sense. It is agreed upon b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 11:21 AM
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Just because love is the result of chemicals in the brain that developed through evolution doesn't make love not exist. That entire thing was just dumb. No one enters a relationship with anyone else unless they're getting something out it? No shit. That's only logical. Why does that mean you shouldn't ever act on your instinct to bond? Just because the world isn't magical and made of rainbows and unicorns doesn't mean nothing matters and we just shouldn't even try. This sounds like it was writte…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 04:33 AM
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Regardless, I don't think masculinity goes with violence unless violence is a necessity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 01:29 AM
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I think that some of the assumed answers to these questions are what fuels many BP complaints about RP relationships. No, a woman should not stay with a violent, abusive man, and no one is advising that. A RP marriage is absolutely not possible if a woman chooses a man who is truly unfit to be a captain. I've received a lot of "well what if your husband asked you to do [insert cruel or insane demand here]? Wouldn't you still have to submit to him?" The answer to that is simple: he wouldn't. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 01:25 AM
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I am extremely turned off by a man who loses his temper regularly because it makes them look childish to me. Masculinity, at least to me, involves a certain level of stoicism. The man is supposed to be the rock in a relationship. He can't very well do that if he's flying off the handle and becoming violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 01:12 AM
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I agree. Eep. I think Husband would be a bit offended if I put sex down as a "service" to him rather than something I want to do. There might be some occasions when I do something that is strictly for him and doesn't really do anything for me, but that should definitely be the exception and not the rule.
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/15 12:50 AM
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I think it's a bit oversimplified, as someone can do all 5 of those things and still be a crappy partner (though to be fair a short list is kind of hard to not oversimplify). I don't think doing the cooking is enough of a necessity to put on the list of most important things, since it's possible to have a RP relationship with a man who genuinely enjoys cooking and would prefer to be the main one doing so. I think my list would be: Always show respect Keep his sexual needs met enthusiastically (w…
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/15 12:46 AM
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No. But most people don't really understand what AWALT means. It doesn't mean all women are identical. I've even heard people who seem to think that AWALT applies to everything, like "all women like pizza" or "all women are turned on by a man who is good at tennis." That, of course, is laughably ridiculous. All women have some level of the main "negative" traits TRP talks about. Some women may have those traits in very low levels, some have them in high levels. Anyone who would argue that ALL WO…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 12:05 AM
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That term absolutely makes my skin crawl and makes me want to barf, but it's used by feminists and those on TBP as well when talking about men they don't agree with. I've seen similar gross things like that when people talk about the MRM.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 10:43 PM
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Because they're bitches who can't handle masculine men! ...just kidding. I think there is a certain amount of solipsism at play. "I wouldn't want a relationship like that so obviously anyone who does is damaged or being abused." Also, there are some men on TRP who use RP teachings to do pretty dickish things. It's not very entertaining to get all worked up over people just trying to get laid, so the worst, most nefarious examples are the ones that get picked out for discussion and ridicule.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 10:39 PM
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The feminine role is supporting and soft, the masculine role is providing leadership and making the tough calls. There are power dynamics in any relationship and these roles can look pretty different from one relationship to the next. I don't think men are necessarily girly if they don't lead in their relationships. Not sure to what extent those roles are important. They're important to me, but obviously I can't speak for every person on the planet. In most of my relationships I have taken the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 10:19 PM
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Most Mormons are bothered or offended when people bring up polygamy. Polygamists cannot attend a regular Mormon church and are not claimed by the main church. They're basically an embarrassment that the church tries to keep away from as much as possible. Polygamy usually only involves spiritual marriages since it is illegal by federal law to be legally married to more than one person and is pretty difficult to get away with. The main LDS church is against one man having multiple wives whether sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 10:06 PM
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Btw, I'm an atheist married to a full believing LDS woman. She's fucking awesome!! How does this work? Meaning, does it ever come up or cause any issues? I don't know as much about the Mormon religion as some others, but doesn't this mean your wife believes you will be sent to hell to suffer for all eternity? It's just so weird for me to imagine being in a relationship with a religious person I can't even picture a functioning one. In case it seems this way I am not trying to put down your marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 09:32 PM
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It seems you are confusing atheists with agnostics. Atheists believe there is no God, while agnostics don't hold strong views either way as neither stance can be unequivocally proven. I've never heard of an atheist who would be okay with their children being raised in religion, but agnostics are more likely to accept it. It may seem nitpicky but I think it's an important distinction in the context of forming committed relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 09:22 PM
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In that case I completely agree
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 08:50 PM
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According to what I've heard from various different sources, orgasms actually feel better for women than they do for men, so turning my clitoris into a dick with absolutely nothing else changed wouldn't give me a higher sex drive. All of the nerves are concentrated in a much smaller area, while being more spread out in the penis, and more spread out = less intense. Ten times the size doesn't mean ten times the nerve endings. For that reason I don't think men are more horny simply by virtue of ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 08:06 PM
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Being one of those women in the past (though admittedly never had a ONS, they were all FWB or STRs) Being friends with or having been friends with many women like that Not holding out for an 8/9/10 is actually more common in my city than those who do hold out Knowing many men who are not remotely high value (still live with their parents, minimum wage job, 4-6 in the looks department) but still manage to get a lot of no strings attached sex from women who are uninterested in anything more with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 07:25 PM
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Not every man is capable of offering a range well, though I guess it depends on your preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 06:47 PM
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Again, there are significantly more women than most people seem to think to whom this does not apply. It's not the majority of women, but it's definitely not as small a minority as you seem to be saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 06:45 PM
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So basically "wait until marriage?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 06:19 PM
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In regards to your last sentence, wow, I can definitely tell that you've kept your count low. There is most definitely quite a variance, not just in quality but in "style."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 06:18 PM
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There are waaaaay more women than most people seem to think who will have sex with guys just for fun even though they don't find them appealing for a relationship. In fact in modern times it seems rare for a woman to hold out for really great relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 06:15 PM
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Depending on where they live there really aren't consequences that most women are even aware of. I had a lot of partners and it honestly never even crossed my mind that men could be turned off by it unless they were religious, which I would avoid anyway. I seem to live in an extremely feminist city and there are a lot of promiscuous women, but not as many as men at least trying to be promiscuous (though it's harder for them). I think women with high sex drives are a lot less rare than many peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 06:11 PM
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Do you mean it is impossible for women as a whole to need sex as men as a whole, or that an individual woman cannot need sex as much as any individual man (which I would assume excludes extreme outliers)?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 06:04 PM
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In order for a man to do that he would have to be a pretty high energy, outgoing social butterfly. Being with Husband and having a girlfriend got really draining, and if it were two women it would have been positively exhausting, let alone the possibility of even more than that. What if you have more than one high libido partner? Can you keep up with having sex multiple times a day consistently? Or more than one woman who likes a lot of intimacy and bonding time. There are men for whom it works,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 06:01 PM
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This is one of the reasons I don't really worry much about my Husband cheating. He doesn't have the energy for it. Even just spending the time and energy to go to a bar in the hopes of picking up some skank is taking away from time he could be spending doing something productive. Let alone fostering a relationship with another woman. He would be annoyed out of his mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 05:51 PM
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I don't know. I suppose in this day and age it is better to raise a kid as a Christian (to avoid conflict at school especially looking at how most teachers in my country are Christians). I would talk to my kids when they're older and more mature and let them decide on their own if the Christian faith is for them or not. I don't understand this. You think your children should be a taught a religion whose holy text says it doesn't matter whether you're a good person, if you don't believe as they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 05:41 PM
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I've heard of this working out, but that is borderline mind blowing to me. I don't understand it at all. Generally if people are religious they feel strongly about their children being raised in that religion. How would they determine which religion to try to convince their children of? Unless one of the parents is Buddhist I don't see someone taking their religion very seriously if they don't care whether their child follows the same one. Even if they don't even have children, it seems their ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 05:31 PM
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RP is for men, sooo... In spite of mulling it over, the only real answer is that men need it more since it started for male benefit, not to make women happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 06:19 AM
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I thought you meant decisions as in decisions on what to believe for some reason, sorry. That's all I was talking about as far as disagreeing, I don't question him when he makes decisions, only when he specifically asks for my thoughts on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 06:57 PM
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What? Is it so hard to believe I am actually madly in love with my Husband and the fact that he has a lot of traits that are sexy to other women is icing on the cake? It's one of many things I find sexy about him. You can't help what turns you on. If I'm turned on by other women thinking my Husband is hot how is that remotely unfair to him or harmful to anyone in any way whatsoever? For some people having partners for sport I'm sure is cool and all, but it sounds like a waste of energy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 05:51 PM
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He prefers a woman he can converse with. That isn't an attempt to claim your SO is an idiot who is incapable of intelligent conversation, just that in my relationship if I never asked "why" he believes something the conversation necessarily stops there. For there to be any hope of discussing it further I have to figure out where he's coming from. Also if we end up discussing the subject with other people later I like to be able to back him up instead of sitting there silently, he likes to teach …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 05:41 PM
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Maybe the loudest minority of RP thinking men. BPers here always take the worst possible examples and apply that to the entirety of TRP. Most do not hate women as much as you seem to think. It's a sexual strategy sub after all, mainly devoted to how to fuck women as much as they desire. Which for most of them is a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 05:33 PM
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Goddamn, she is just a beautiful human. I'm not actually into androgyny at all normally, but she is an exception. As long as she's had reassignment surgery, honestly I think someone so feminine and gorgeous would be too much for me if she still had a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 05:28 PM
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Ah, you're high. Maybe that's why I don't know exactly what points you're trying to make either. I probably would be as well if I didn't have places to be. Brevity is not my strong suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 01:22 AM
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Functional as in allowing for love and bonding. Quite literally if you can't love or bond it's because that part of your brain isn't functioning. It is universal according to brain scans that there is a certain part of the brain that is attached to this function. If it's not serving that job then it isn't functioning. The part that allows that doesn't function properly. It doesn't get much more simple than that. I said that part of the brain. I didn't say anything about overall functioning in al…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 11:10 PM
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Like I said, if having no capacity to love isn't causing you or anyone in your life problems it doesn't matter that much. Capacity to love is more of a fundamental thing than heterosexuality, though. We are talking the difference between one function of the brain not working at all and part of the brain that normally makes you attracted to one sex instead making you attracted to the other. If you have never felt close enough to anyone in your entire life to particularly care if they live or die,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 10:25 PM
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Of course it's natural, unless somehow chemically induced or brought on by a brain injury. Downs Syndrome is natural as well, but that doesn't mean someone with Downs has a normally functioning brain. There are historical records going back quite a way of people with all sorts of physical and mental peculiarities. But they are still exactly that: peculiarities. Not a sign of normal functioning. I don't understand your first sentence. I never disagreed that abnormal doesn't necessarily mean bad, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 09:16 PM
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They aren't normal humans, no. You could say having no drive to procreate/being asexual or being gay aren't normal either, but that doesn't mean there's a problem with either of those things. Are you really saying it's a perfectly normal and natural thing for a human being to have no capacity to love?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 07:52 PM
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Maybe 70/30 nature over nurture. Last I knew it was pretty widely accepted in the scientific community that parents cannot alter their child's personality by raising them a certain way and the only thing they can really influence is their morals and beliefs. I also find it interesting how similar in behavior identical twins separated at birth and raised by completely different families tend to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 06:41 PM
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That's why I specifically avoided saying something was "wrong." Broken was admittedly a poor choice as well. I was trying to be a bit facetious, but it doesn't read that way at all. I believe you'll notice that I didn't recommend therapy or something either. There are plenty of people on the autism spectrum who can't have normal relationships with people but are functioning just fine. Just because their brains don't function normally doesn't mean there's something wrong in that they need help to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 06:19 PM
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I find it unusual to not think sex is important, but honestly I think even my Husband finds it less important than I do (but still not unimportant). To me it's about more than just sexual release - it's about bonding as a couple and building on intimacy. I feel more in love and closer to him when our sex life is active. My sex drive is highly variable, though. Before he found TRP my drive wasn't super low, but not half as high as it is now. I'm just more attracted to him than I was in the beginn…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 04:28 PM
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I'm still surprised I wound up marrying someone my age, though now I'm glad I did because I don't like the likelihood of being a widow at 60 if I married someone significantly older. When I was dating I didn't have a limit on how much older the man could be as long as he didn't look old. I'm not attracted to men who look like they're in their 40s but wouldn't mind dating one as long as they were aging well and had a good sense of humor. When I was 18 I semi-casually dated a man who was 32 and it…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 01:23 PM
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I am firmly on Team Dog. I like animals that snuggle. I do still love our kitty, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 12:51 PM
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Last week was really stressful and terrible. I wound up being sick and running a fever almost the entire week, so this week is going to be a game of catch-up. I guess my main goal is to manage my time more wisely. I have some work from home opportunities that I need to take advantage of even though I feel much more concerned about house work. Get one room completely clean every day Catch up on laundry Remember to pack a lunch for Husband every day Work on my money making opportunities for at lea…
/r/RedPillWomen11/05/15 11:10 AM
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You just need to make sure you're getting enough electrolytes and not flushing the minerals out of your body. Drinking too much water can lead to deficiencies, but if you're eating well and/or taking a multivitamin it should be fine.
/r/RedPillWomen11/05/15 02:30 AM
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Red. Husband also almost never gets worked up and stays calm even when frustrated, while I admittedly don't handle frustration as well. I write him love letters and try to give him little surprises frequently. He pretty much shows no emotion to anyone but me, because he's guarded and a bit shy, not because he wants people to think he's tough or something. He pretends he doesn't like how much I dote on him and fawn over him, but he actually loves it (most of the time). He teases me all the time a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 02:10 AM
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You said you don't think of cooking you dinner as particularly romantic and your list was just the closest things you could think of. Is there anything you would consider romantic and enjoy receiving? It just seems like OP's question is kind of a moot point if men don't want women to be romantic anyway. It kind of sucks to put forth the effort on a huge surprise only to receive a lukewarm response at best. Haha, I'm a married female, not a red pill man. I wouldn't look down on you for romancing …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 12:47 AM
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Would you appreciate a girl getting you little gifts or planning a surprise trip or putting rose petals on the bed and running you a bubble bath? In my experience it seems like men don't want those things in the first place but women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 12:17 AM
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I'm curious, would you appreciate receiving the same sort of romantic gestures that women often do (flowers, surprise dates, surprise gifts)? I don't see cooking a special dinner or wearing lingerie as "romantic," but those are the closest things to romance my Husband really enjoys. It seems that what men appreciate as being romanced is completely different from what women think of when they think of romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 12:15 AM
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In my experience men just don't appreciate receiving romantic gestures the same way women do. I love doing elaborate romantic things, but a lot of things I could do would be more or less wasted on Husband. The list of gestures he would be really moved by and enthusiastically appreciate is waaay shorter than mine. That's just my experience, though. From observations of people around me it does seem like women are far less likely to do romantic things, but maybe their boyfriends are like Husband a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 12:10 AM
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If they were that resentful I doubt they would be on RPW trying to be the best wives possible and remain devoted to their husbands' happiness for a decade plus.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 07:53 PM
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I agree with that statement, yes. But I don't see one as worse than the other. Anyone can learn a trade or practice a skill until they become good at it. If you were born unattractive you can't do that much about it. At most some women can only ever be butterfaces. On the other hand, if you were born an attractive female you are going to have a lot of privileges that men and unattractive women don't without much effort on your part. It's frustrating to have your personality and skills more or le…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 07:18 PM
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No, like legitimately you're not normal. Humans are social animals. If you're incapable of love and wouldn't particularly care if the closest people to you died there is something wrong with your brain and/or hormone balance. If humans hadn't evolved to love we wouldn't have survived as a species. It isn't meant as a personal attack. Objectively your brain doesn't work like a normal person's if the statement you made is true. All I can say to the me and other RPW being leeches thing is LOL. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 07:09 PM
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You're broken. Your brain doesn't function as a normal human's is supposed to. If your hormonal levels and/or brain structure are abnormal to such a degree then a man probably doesn't have anything to offer you. But as I said, if your statement is true you are not normal and should not remotely be used as any sort of model for other people to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 05:43 PM
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My own sense of worth is inextricably tied to my utility to others, correct. As far as how I identify and see myself, my ovaries and appearance are a large part of the total package, but not what gives me my worth (except in how they can be utilized - being attractive makes it more enjoyable for Husband to have sex with me, for example).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 05:27 PM
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1.) As far as what is more likely to happen, I have more reason to fear being useless than being ugly. I have health issues that make me feel useless, but unless I were to be in some sort of accident I'm not going to magically turn ugly. I guess I would rather be ugly than useless, but really I would have to ask Husband which he would prefer I be if forced to choose. 2.) I guess I would rather be complimented on my personality out of that list, if we are including cognitive abilities in that. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 04:38 PM
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As far as men being more empathetic I disagree entirely. I can't really think of examples of men being particularly empathetic unless it was something they could directly relate to. Of course they empathize better with other men. It isn't difficult to empathize with someone when you've been in the exact same position as them before. In regards to being friendlier and more fun to be around, that's generally been my experience, but I am also a relatively attractive woman. I don't know if men are g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 04:19 PM
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I was just answering the question, not trying to "convince" anyone. Makes no difference to me if some strangers don't want to get married. The elevated social status is absolutely true, though. People have more trust in an older married man than an older single man. They are seen as more responsible and "grounded." If you are a professional in a professional field you are looked to more highly if married and more likely to receive the benefit of the doubt. My Husband is a married architect first…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 04:53 PM
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Did he do a stealth edit after you made this comment or something? I don't like replying for other people, but it seems like he answered this question quite explicitly already and I'm confused as to what more clarification you could possibly want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 07:34 AM
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By the time you put in all of the effort to "fake" a marriage you are not saving yourself any legal trouble in the event of divorce in most states, particularly if you have children. In many places you are even less protected than if you had just married with a prenup. If you're not saving yourself anything it seems silly to go through the trouble of rings and a ceremony and changing names if you aren't going to actually make it official. To each their own and it depends on how the couple wants …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 02:07 AM
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Elevated social status, non-bastard children who can carry on his name and legacy, possibly certain inheritance and/or tax benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 01:38 AM
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Husband introduced me to TRP after reading Married Man Sex Life Primer, which is quite reasonably worded and geared toward harmonious marriages rather than picking up women at a bar or keeping "plates" in line. I don't really care what the subreddit has to say. I only care about how my Husband views me and am not particularly bothered by whether or not strange men on the Internet would like or respect me. To me it's not even a matter of ignoring it - I just genuinely don't care. But to be honest…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 06:59 PM
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I agree that for a lot of people marrying young is a mistake. It really depends on the individual. My brother and his fiancee are both 21 getting married in August and while I haven't expressed it, I do not support it at all. I think he's making a huge mistake because they just aren't mature enough. I think there's an idea that to be RP is to be a very specific type of person, or that it means we all think we have the universal answers that everyone else should follow. I follow RPW because I fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 05:39 PM
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Thank you for clarifying. Yes, we've faced A LOT of struggles that many people don't, and I'm lucky to have had him by my side during those times, and also glad that I was able to give him some of my good years when I was working to support us. I never saw my current situation coming, and I certainly don't think fear of the future is good reason for rushing into such a monumental decision. I just think if you know you want marriage and kids in the future it's a good idea to keep that in mind fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 06:21 PM
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Yep, I certainly don't think anyone should be in a rush to get married as quickly as possible, but if you know that's what you want for your future the earlier you start living with that in mind the longer you have to find a partner who is a good match. If you're lucky you'll find them early on, but if you don't start searching for husband material until you're ready for marriage and kids yesterday you might end up settling for someone you wouldn't have otherwise just because you feel like it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 05:56 PM
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In any of my replies I am speaking of my own experience and not stating what I think is best for other women unless I state otherwise. Everyone is different - there are general rules of thumb, but what worked for me could easily turn out terribly for someone else. I was just answering why marrying young was a good thing for me and the potential benefits of it. I feel like there is a slight dig there about me not being the norm because plenty of women mature intellectually and emotionally. Perhap…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 05:49 PM
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I was referring specifically to myself in this instance. I'm not able to work and on my bad days can't really get up much at all. While it doesn't define who I am and I try to make up for it as much as possible it surely takes away from my "curb appeal."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 03:13 PM
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What's depressing about it? A 35-year-old man who makes a lot of money is going to have more options in their dating pool than a 34-year-old disabled woman. To be clear, it's not like I sit around thinking about how we compare to each other. He loves me and we add value to each other's lives. It's not like we're competing to be hotter than the other. But the fact remains that I'm glad I found him while I was young because I don't think I could have done as well otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 03:15 AM
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I didn't set out to marry young at all, but there are certainly perks to it. For starters, I don't think I could have locked down a partner as awesome as Husband is now. He hadn't started his career yet and hadn't yet grown into himself as a man when we met and fell in love, but I saw great things in him. Now my own value has diminished while his has grown. Really we're probably fairly equal right now, but most likely before much longer he will clearly be the more "desirable" partner overall. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 01:53 AM
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Haha, actually there is! I don't own one personally, but I've seen them. It took me quite awhile before I was confident enough to send him dirty texts besides just photos because I was afraid I would sound stupid. At this point, though, I've realized that even if I say something he finds more silly than sexy it's not like it's going to tarnish my image in his mind. I still keep it pretty simple, though. This is one area where I haven't felt the need to "up the ante," so to speak. Or say somethin…
/r/RedPillWomen01/05/15 10:18 PM
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My Husband can be a little... erm... dense when it comes to reading signals. I like to send him "previews" before he leaves work so there's no ambiguity as to what's on my mind. It's a turn off to me to have to explicitly spell it out or be told "later" because usually he wants to work on a project when he gets home and sometimes sex just doesn't happen when we wait until right before bed time, or it isn't as fun because we're both really tired. Plus if he isn't feeling in the mood I would rathe…
/r/RedPillWomen01/05/15 10:02 PM
1

I disagree. That's still selfish for anyone with a modicum of social skills. We know, whether innately or through trial and error, that we cannot maintain the support of the group, the social bonding that we need as animals, if we continually take from others without giving back. "Giving back as much as you get" is what gets and keeps friends. None of that is selfless. Once the scales tip and we realize we are giving more than we were getting, if we have any sense we cut and run. Everyone should…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 01:06 PM
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The problem with this is that you cannot possibly come to absolutes in whether things are right or wrong. Your idea of right and wrong is based on the morals in the time you grew up in. I would argue that discarding deformed babies is "right," but immoral. It is more beneficial for the whole to have each member pulling their weight, no mouths to feed that will not grow to contribute but need the means of their survival provided by others forever, and to avoid genetic disorders from spreading. Sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 04:18 AM
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You're basically just arguing semantics. I don't want any "selfless" friends in my life. Of course being selfish is better than being selfless. How is it selfless if I sacrifice something - time, money, whatever - for someone I love and care about? Their happiness makes me happy. If my Husband isn't happy it's just about physically impossible for me to be. I love him and will do just about anything for him because he benefits my life in every way. Any truly selfless act is bad and should almost …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 03:41 AM
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Certified official crazy woman speaking: NEVER, I mean ever ever, use your illness as an excuse to behave poorly. It's a tired cliche that you should work on yourself before entering a relationship, but with mental illness this is particularly true. Learn exactly what your triggers are. Find coping mechanisms that work for you. If you can access mental health care in your country, do so. Be proactive. Of course there are times I mess up with my Husband and let my illness get the better of me, bu…
/r/RedPillWomen29/04/15 02:06 AM
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I'm assuming you've already given up on your traditional values regarding sex before marriage? If you have religious reasons for wanting marriage I would suggest cutting your losses now, unless he is willing to do a religious ceremony and you are willing to compromise on the paperwork bit. A woman who wants marriage as a spiritual union, to become one flesh according to God, will forever resent the man who denies her that, particularly if she ends up having bastard children. Whatever you choose,…
/r/RedPillWomen29/04/15 01:53 AM
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Sex is an excellent stress reliever. When I'm stressed that's the next best thing to popping a xanax. Saying you're too stressed sounds like an excuse. Why do you really not want to have sex? If you aren't attracted to him or truly have a very low sex drive you should absolutely let him go so he can find someone who can meet his needs. There has got to be an underlying issue here beyond just sex, and frankly it sounds like your attitude. Sex should not be a chore or something you "give" to your …
/r/RedPillWomen29/04/15 12:24 AM
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I'm 5'2. I was kidding on the fuck you (in case it wasn't obvious). But height doesn't seem to be as much of a factor for women as it is for men. Most of the men I know don't even seem to care about a woman's height at all really. My great grandma was 6' and my grandpa was 5'6. It seems like very tall women usually give up on giving a crap about a dude's height because if they want a man who is noticeably taller their dating pool shrinks dramatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 06:59 PM
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Hey fuck you, I'm no blueberry. Truth hurts. 5 lbs on me is like 15 for someone taller. But you're basically reiterating my point. Taller men are able to get more attractive women (as long as they aren't gross and/or ugly).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 04:44 PM
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As I've said before, I usually prefer shorter men and happened to end up with a tall one. My friends and I don't sit around talking about things like that, so I don't know their position on height. But I believe I've seen studies showing that all other things equal women prefer a taller man to a shorter one. I'm at the doctor's office right now waiting on a nurse so I'm not going to look it up at the moment, but you're deluded if you think it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 04:24 PM
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It's not remotely unusual to take a competitive pride in having a partner other people want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 04:21 PM
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Haha, yeah, I've never heard a woman state that a guy is too tall to be attractive, but men that tall are rare enough that it isn't surprising I haven't really heard them discussed in a sexual sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 02:05 PM
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5'7 is actually my ideal height in a partner, but I am a major outlier there. Husband is 6' and I've come to find it sexy because other women think it's sexy. I think you're right though, I hear more really short women state the 6' minimum than tall women for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 02:03 PM
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Do you live in the US? If so you really hang out with some women who have unusual (though not to say incredibly rare) tastes in men. It is completely false that most men have no issue with height as far as things go in the US, and obviously I can't speak of anywhere else. Taller men, on average, are able to get more attractive women because, on average, they are also seen to be more attractive than shorter men all other things being equal. Thing is, obviously most people are average looking sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 01:18 PM
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I live in the US and have never heard a woman say a man is too tall to be attractive here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 01:03 PM
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Not really. 6' or above seems to be a rule for a very large amount of women. Men under 6' are less valuable because of it and have to make up for it in other ways or find a woman who doesn't care. I'm only 5'2 but I like to be able to wear heels without being taller than my partner, as do most other women. I think the average height for women is 5'5. Add four inch heels and the men who are considered "tall enough" gets smaller since they really still need at least a couple more inches on you to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 03:39 AM
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25 Female Cosmetology school I dont align with any party. My views are basically based on the numbers. You can talk all day, but what are the results when we implement your ideas -cough- Brownback -cough-. Staunch supporter of marijuana legalization, as in, not some stoner sitting around wishing it were legal, but donating time and effort to campaigning and getting the laws changed. As far as politics go that's pretty much my biggest issue right now. Feminism: keep it the fuck out of my face
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 01:40 PM
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I think he did eventually lose his license for similar shenanigans, but I had nothing to do with it. I was only 14 at the time and my mom didn't tell me until awhile later. She just immediately found me a new doctor and explained why as she was taking me to the next appointment. Not sure why she didn't report him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 02:49 AM
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I just don't believe that an otherwise good person who has shown no prior warning signs at all is going to suddenly become an abuser unless they suffer some sort of head trauma. The kind of person who will threaten to leave you if you don't do harm to yourself by going against medical advice which was advised for only a fairly short period was never marriage material. You're looking at this in the worst possible light, and I am looking at it under the assumption that this is an otherwise normal …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 02:45 AM
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Well you're no fun ;-P
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 04:29 PM
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What will turn me on sexually has about jack shit to do with my opinions in any other area of life. Have you really never had a sexual fantasy that sounded awesome but then as it actually happened you realized it wasn't what you had envisioned and you're totally not into it? Hell, it doesn't even have to be sexual. This happens to people all the time. What we think will cheer us up or turn us on or make us depressed do not always have the effect we think it will. This has nothing to do with me n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 04:26 PM
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No matter how many people you sleep with there's still going to be people who come up that make you wonder "What if," even if only for a brief moment. Unless you have sex with every man on the planet that isn't going to take away from the possibility of wondering what this guy or this other guy might be like in bed later in life.
/r/RedPillWomen23/04/15 03:42 PM
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I said ask about her. Continuing to make it all about you and what you want is not going to get you anywhere because the real problem is her and what she wants. I'm not trying to be disparaging toward you, because maybe this has worked for the women in your life and you've both been the better for it, but I am so thankful that my Husband found TRP because the constant conversations of "What can I do for you? How can I meet your needs to make you more attracted to me?" were absolutely killing our…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 03:22 PM
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Link.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 03:12 PM
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I fully accept that I could be a major outlier here, but what you mean by "emotions" and what I feel that means seem to be very different. It isn't my "wahhhhh my husband doesn't buy me enough flowers or write me love notes anymore" feelings that are going to make me want to fuck him if the issue is resolved. In fact I personally know very few women who need a stronger level of romance to be interested in their partner sexually. My emotional need for a protector is what turns me on when it's met…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 03:11 PM
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Honestly, I wouldn't be too surprised. Being a certified crazy person like I am I have seen a lot of therapists and psychiatrists, and have seen all sorts of things ranging from one of my psychiatrists asking me to leave the room and bring my mom in so he could write her a prescription "for a fun night out" with his phone number on it, to a doctor insisting I remain on a drug that made me completely unable to orgasm that could have easily been replaced by many other drugs without those side effe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 02:56 PM
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I think for what you are looking for you are best off going to /r/mensrights. Any overlap between TRP and MRM are coincidental. TRP is sexual strategy. Men's rights is about the social issues you mentioned above. Only a couple of those are relevant to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 02:30 PM
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I think our disagreement comes from interpreting the OP completely differently. "Sex right this minute or I divorce you" if there has been no prior discussion on the matter is the mother of all red flags. I am grossed out just at the thought of a man who would do that, and for my own sanity I'm going to tell myself men like that are few and far between. I read the statement assuming this hypothetical man is not a monster and is an overall decent human being (because perhaps I'm naive but I was t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 12:44 PM
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I find it hard to believe such a man wouldn't fall under the "has always been an asshole" category. Or he is just a complete and utter moron for not understanding that there is a medically necessary break from sex that needs to happen after giving birth. Technically you could step it up by cranking up on the blow jobs, but I think it was probably a mistake to marry someone so dumb in the first place. Then I guess it's her call. She can give begrudged BJs to him while probably resenting and likel…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 12:34 PM
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Then it's all a matter of wording. Is "our sexual issues are serious enough to me that I am considering leaving if they don't change" more palatable? It's communicating the same message. My needs aren't being met, I'm giving you a chance to fix that, if you choose not to here is what will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 10:54 PM
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I'm not sure where you've seen a focus on being independent and being on your own. We are encouraged to be the best versions of ourselves that we can be, and that still counts if we are single. So if you don't currently have a man, then yes, improving yourself requires a certain amount of independence. Also, in this sort of marriage the husband needs to be able to count on his wife to run the ship in his absence if something happens and he is rendered temporarily unable to do so. "My own self be…
/r/RedPillWomen22/04/15 01:27 PM
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It's not rape. I don't even really necessarily consider it coercion, unless you think that expressing your needs within a relationship, including your absolute deal breakers, is coercion. If my Husband or I started engaging in a serious negative behavior I think we both deserve to know explicitly how seriously the other takes the issue. There seems to be this weird assumption from most of the commenters that expressing your willingness to leave if your wife doesn't meet your sexual needs is goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 12:51 PM
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Ultimatums are sometimes appropriate, if only used when you are completely serious. I told my girlfriend I would leave her if she didn't get off drugs, and as soon as she relapses again I'm gone. I feel that is a perfectly justified reason to give an ultimatum. She didn't realize how seriously I took the issue, so I made her fully aware so she knows exactly what to expect instead of hoping or assuming that I will be willing to stick around to offer more chances. I would rather be given an ultima…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 12:37 PM
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To give her fair warning of the consequences of her choices by voicing his needs instead of blindsiding her by leaving without ever saying what a big deal sex is?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 12:27 PM
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There are a lot of things that seem to fit your definition of "coercion" in a relationship. "If you don't start showing me more affection and paying more attention to my needs I am going to leave you." "I just can't marry you unless you are willing to convert to my religion, which is an issue I hold very dear." Say one spouse said from the beginning that they want children and later change their mind. "I want to have children and it's important to me, so unless that's something you are willing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 12:21 PM
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In general the female libido is more likely to go up and down significantly throughout their lives. It's not always about "not wanting to fuck you." It's often just that the woman hasn't been thinking about sex, simply isn't interested in general as it never crosses her mind, and doesn't care to make it a priority, nor even realize that it should be a priority. It's not always about finding their partner unattractive. There are a lot of things women can do to try to increase their libido and enj…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 12:05 PM
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MANY, many women do not realize the depth of the distress withholding sex from their partners can cause. I would say if it is never explicitly discussed that a man is willing to walk if their sex life doesn't improve, most women are going to be blindsided when served divorce papers over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 11:58 AM
1

Couldn't "leave them alone" mean "divorce them?"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 11:56 AM
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Never heard of it working out, ever. IMO if it's over it's over. What the hell are you doing on a break? What does that even mean? Usually it just means you're going to go fuck someone else to "get it out of your system," and I have found this to be equally true for men and women. If you want to fuck someone else that badly, just break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 03:32 AM
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I face sexism ALL THE TIME. Why, just the other day a man offered to help me carry my groceries to my car, which I bet he wouldnt have done if I were a man. The outrage. Sometimes when I was single I wouldn't have to pay to get into bars just because they wanted to give the pretty little pieces of meat more incentive to attend. Men have become downright offended when I reached for my wallet to pay for myself after a date. I can stand any place in public with a concerned look on my face for about…
/r/RedPillWomen17/04/15 06:37 PM
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When Husband (or anyone) tries to give me too much food he thinks it's funny/cute when I make a slightly pouty face and say "but I'm just little." Since he can eat so much more sometimes it just doesn't occur to him that he's giving me a gigantic portion for my size. But he likes a reminder of my vulnerability and while "cute" doesn't turn him on sexually, it still brings out his protective instincts and he's going to forget all about potentially having been upset because I didn't eat enough of …
/r/RedPillWomen17/04/15 02:54 PM
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Overt dread doesn't work on me either, which I can say from experience. But it is sometimes the natural effect of being with a high value man. Husband doesn't rub it in my face when he finds other women attractive (unless it's to be obviously playful), and I don't believe he would cheat on me, but I still have the effects of "dread" because I know he's attractive and could get a lot more women if he wanted to. The fact that I trust, love, and look up to him means that I am extremely honored that…
/r/RedPillWomen17/04/15 02:23 PM
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I'm aware of the statistics, but my own personal experience has been so contrary to that it's not even funny. Based on my experience I'm more afraid to live in a poor white neighborhood than a poor black neighborhood. Statistically black people are more likely to be poor, and we can argue different reasons for that, but from what I've seen myself when white people are poor it's more likely that it's because they're drug addicts, crazy, or criminals who can't get a job. My Husband and I are curre…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 02:05 PM
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Why would anyone be confused by such a thing? That's why my dad decided to become a rich dude. Anyway, my town was incredibly drug-riddled and I think that had more to do with it than anything, although the two do tend to be very strongly correlated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 12:40 PM
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Nope. Didn't have any black neighbors that I can think of at all, actually. Just white trash hooked on meth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 11:54 AM
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Husband follows TRP, but would probably make a face and tell me never to say it again because it's gross if I called him my alpha man or something. I don't believe in this dichotomy. As far as the things you listed, I don't mind players exactly, but a large reason I chose Husband is because he put pursuing his career over women to the point that he hardly dated at all, so I knew I was special to him if he was even bothering to give me the time of day. That he doesn't need a woman or seek female …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 05:01 PM
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Feeling that you are wasting yours and the police's time because you have no evidence (guy wore a condom and you are minimally physically harmed) seems like an actual reason to me. It's also sort of like when we lived in a bad neighborhood and people's houses got broken into so much they stopped even bothering to report it because it was so incredibly rare to end in actually getting their shit back.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 01:21 PM
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I tried to report not a rape but a sexual assault when I was 13 (or rather my parents tried to file it for me), but the cop wanted to sweep it under the rug, and so he did, and nothing ever came of it. So when I was actually raped I briefly considered reporting it, but I had no evidence whatsoever, except I guess they could have told I was violently penetrated. Just my word against his that I said no. No point in reporting as far as I was concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 01:12 PM
2

Wait, like bad mustache and everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 04:48 AM
2

Sure, I'm bored enough to bite. 5'2, 105 lbs, 26 inch waist, 36 inch hips, lacking in the boob department. Polish heritage but I look like a fairly standard white girl, maybe a very slight eastern European look to my nose. As pale as one can get before it is classified as an actual medical disorder. Blue eyes. Hair is orange and yellow, maybe an inch or so below my collar bones. I alternate between goth-punk and frilly dresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 04:23 AM
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Hahahahaha. I completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 02:23 AM
1

One of my friend's boyfriends got his hands and neck tattooed before he had any anywhere else on his body, and he didn't have a job or any marketable skills at the time. You can still get plenty of jobs with tattoos, but you should really be at least kind of settled in a career path before you get ink that's impossible to cover. I only have one on my forearm and I didn't get it until I was comfortable that I could stay in my career field which doesn't care about tattoos. That guy was irresponsib…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 09:06 PM
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My Husband told me it meant "fuck that and fuck you" and for an embarrassingly long time I wondered why people were so needlessly hostile about seemingly innocuous statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 08:47 PM
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I don't know. I don't completely agree with anything I said, I was explaining a viewpoint that isn't my own. Some people who get tattoos are irresponsible about it and some people aren't. Has nothing to do with gender. But it seems like women are more likely to be attracted to tattoos than men, probably because innocence is attractive in women usually, but not in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 08:40 PM
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Disclaimer: I have a shitload of tattoos and my hair hasn't been a natural color for more than a couple of months at a time since I was maybe 15. It's about impulse control. People see those with tattoos as irresponsible because "how are you going to get a job?" and "clearly you don't think ahead with your actions." Ya know, because everyone always regrets their tattoos later once they grow up and realize it's undignified (/s). Plus only a niche group of men are super into body modifications or …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 02:58 PM
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This is exactly what I did, minus the church part. He was a bit of a diamond in the rough, and we have grown as individuals and together. He puts a lot more effort into his appearance now and is more than slightly above average looking. (I was quite a bit of a work in progress as well, I don't want to make it sound like I was the perfect woman just trying to make a wise investment). 10 out of 10, would definitely highly recommend this strategy. Women need to realize this. I had youth and beauty …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 03:46 AM
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It's a spectrum. Alpha and beta refer more to behaviors than individuals. Most men fall somewhere in the middle. A true, complete "alpha" or "beta" male is going to be rare to find in the wild. A man who currently sits further on one end of the spectrum can move closer to the other end throughout his life, based on circumstances, letting himself go, or putting in hard work, depending on which end of the spectrum he is sliding toward. A man's significant other can have a large impact on this as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 03:28 AM
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For those that feel like this "restricts" what you can spend it does, which is why I do it this way. It is easy to be wasteful when you are accountable to only yourself, not so much when you have to look your partner in the eye and explain yourself. Exactly. Both of us are pretty thrifty, but having the finances open for both of us to look at makes us think twice before purchases. I am the one who keeps track of the balance, but if I have to tell my Husband not to buy anything until his next che…
/r/RedPillWomen09/04/15 11:48 PM
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For us it is sooo much more convenient to share an account. We ended up getting a joint account within a couple of months of living together because deciding who would pay what bills was a hassle, and since I made more money than he did it seemed to give him a sense of guilt when I was paying most of the bills. He also hadn't lived on his own before and so only had a savings account that he needed to check the balance on maybe every couple of months because without any bills to pay there was nev…
/r/RedPillWomen09/04/15 11:40 PM
1

I wouldn't call it open. There is one woman we share and that's it. We have a strict threesome policy. Neither of us may have sex with another person unless we are both involved. I'm not comfortable with him just going out and being with another woman, and he's not comfortable with me doing so either. But he likes variety and I like women, so this works out well as a compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 06:19 PM
1

The best external thing about my life is my Husband, hands down. I'm going through some really rough things right now, but overall I would say I'm happy with my life, or at the very least grateful for it as I am working to be happier and have all the means to do so. I have a dream come true marriage, good health insurance that will hopefully allow for the end of my horrendous physical suffering and a man who makes enough money that my inability to work isn't going to completely sink us, I have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 10:37 AM
1

My ex got my named tattooed on his chest after I broke up with him in the hopes it would win me back. It did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 09:31 PM
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Why do you think marriage is a bad deal for all parties? My Husband benefits from our marriage (as in the actual fact that there is a contract, not just speaking in terms of having a loving relationship which does not require a contract), and I benefit even more than he does. I can't think of any downsides of the actual marriage unless you're only referring to the risks of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 09:29 PM
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It is beneficial to those who see value in it. If you don't think of the things that marriage provides as valuable, obviously you shouldn't bother. According to Husband, the benefits for him were partly an elevation of his status and a way to gain respect outside of the marriage, the comfort of a sense of ownership over me, an outward display of that ownership that is completely unambiguous, tax and legal benefits that would be a pain to drum up individually, and we don't want bastard children. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 09:12 PM
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Strength is just a trait that is not inherently more valuable than many other valuable traits. I don't think it's neutral. I think it has value, but it is most definitely not the utmost of importance. There was clearly some misunderstanding, because I don't think it's a trait that's valuable above all others that makes the bearers of strength overall superior. It was just a simple example of a common sex difference and I didn't intend to imply that it makes men more valuable than women whatsoeve…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 02:57 AM
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I think there are multiple aspects at play. Couples tend to get complacent after so much time together. They take sex for granted in that they no longer see seduction as necessary. This counts for both men and women. Women think "he married me, he's supposed to want me all the time no matter what. I shouldn't have to dress up for my own husband," while men think "she's my wife, she promised to love and cherish me, I shouldn't have to jump through hoops for sex." But then they jump through all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 12:54 AM
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If you do not value science, what premises are you working from? Yes, science changes and many theories formed are eventually disproven or evolve. So does that mean it has no value? Do you just arbitrarily decide, based on your emotions, what scientific evidence to believe or not believe? I generally accept the consensus of the scientific community, which includes the understanding that there are many things we do not know and that new evidence could be found to disprove current ideas. That does…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 09:47 PM
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Reading your comment, we are in total agreement. I didn't mean to get hostile with you. I was just irritated in general by the tendency of those on TBP seemingly purposefully interpreting everything TRP says in the worst possible way and then continually pushing against a point you never actually made in spite of any attempts to clarify. Not to say RPers don't do the same, but I've never personally experienced it. Also I'm just having a bad day ;-P haha
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 06:08 PM
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Jesus, dude, whose comments are you even reading? I specifically stated that I was speaking only in generalities. The average. You felt the need to point out that some women are stronger than some men and that not all men are particularly strong at all? You have clearly already decided that I am an idiot, because only a moron would need that explained to them. And again, I specifically stated that I was speaking on statistical average and not in absolute terms. A genuine curiosity because I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 05:38 PM
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For the love of God. I never said it isn't happening, and I'm not exactly sure why that keeps being stated, and frankly saw no more point in continuing the conversation with my statements being entirely misconstrued and my attempts at explaining them apparently ignored. I am extremely interested in the sciences. Of course I know that robots are taking over many jobs. I said that right now male labor is still far from obsolete. Once robots truly do take over every single job that utilizes male st…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 01:16 PM
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Personally I see addiction as a weakness. I probably wouldn't have gotten as far as a marriage with someone who had an obvious addiction because it would grate away at my attraction constantly.
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/15 05:23 PM
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I'm not a man, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to answer this: goodbye. There's nothing wrong with not wanting sex, per se, but you'd be a goddamn idiot to get into a relationship with such a person unless you are similarly asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 03:24 PM
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I dunno, I somewhat disagree here. Knowing it is only part of it. But there's a big difference between knowing that someone would fuck you if the time was right and you approached them and they didn't have to work the next morning, and having someone actually be in front of you panting and shaking from your hotness and how you make them feel. That is waaaayyyy more validating than just knowing that someone wants you. Giving a successful performance is a way bigger ego boost than having someone j…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 08:54 PM
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Well I guess that gives me my answer right there. My SMV is far too high for me to have any need for feminism. I'll just carry on being awesome then. (95% kidding).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 08:43 PM
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I still don't quite understand this question. Are you operating under the premise that as a woman I owe some sort of loyalty or should be more inclined to agree with other women by virtue of sharing genitalia? I don't care if there are more women on the "other team," and I don't understand by what sort of logic that should make a difference to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 08:07 PM
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That's what I was referring to. Hmm, I thought I remembered the genders being a touch more evenly distributed on TRP side, but they're still fairly even on the TBP side. Thanks for linking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 08:02 PM
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Actually looking up the demographic may be surprising to your "common sense." There have been surveys to answer this question for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 03:09 PM
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Well first, the fact that there are women in STEM doesn't actually prove anything. Just like a female firefighter doesn't unequivocally prove that women are just as capable of firefighting. Why would men being better or more interested in the science fields mean that 100% of women suck at it? I'm not even asserting any points with that, I don't really care to speak on females in various male dominated fields, I'm just pointing out that this complete all or nothing mentality is quite obviously no…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 03:42 AM
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Nowhere did I say that women don't enter STEM and never make scientific discoveries. It truly makes no sense that you would try to draw any sort of parallel between a large field of study with worldwide importance and a subreddit. I can't even really say anything to that because it makes absolutely no sense, unless I'm missing your actual point. A very common claim made by feminists is that there are fewer women in STEM only because the field isn't female friendly enough. There is nothing actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 02:43 AM
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Yep, your wife and I definitely have something in common! Haha. If no one else is stepping up to the plate I will, and if they aren't doing a proper job of it I'll shove them out of the way and take over, or just have to walk away from the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:48 PM
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Yes, that is the only value it holds for both me and my Husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:39 PM
1

It really is a hilarious notion. Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:38 PM
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I've only seen a couple episodes of Community and I don't remember who Shirley is. But people often put up token resistance against nice gestures, and I blow through them like a bull in a china shop. Enough to get that tendency noticed frequently, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:36 PM
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You're making a very obvious contradiction. Your first statement was that RP men need a woman who will never question them or take actions of her own. And now you say he wants a woman who will shelter him from having to be an adult. Who the hell is doing the adulting in this pretend relationship of yours???
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:15 PM
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What's wrong with wanting to be with someone who agrees with you? Isn't at least some portion of that just about having shared values?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:12 PM
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Edit: I'm getting downvoted and its 9:00 AM ES time so what exactly should I conclude from this, WaL? Perhaps that you are needlessly antagonistic? This works nicely, though. /u/nomdplume, here is your antonym ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:08 PM
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A submissive in the BDSM sense is quite a bit different from a submissive woman in the biblical and RP sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:00 PM
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Hmm, I've been with Husband for four years now, so that word stuck with me but the context really didn't. I think some of it was "forcing" people to let me be nice to them, and in that context the word or sentiment usually seemed to be used as a compliment. But thinking about my past bad relationship habits, I always had to have the last word. In fact I STILL remember some arguments I had with exes and think about how I was clearly right and they should have just conceded.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 03:53 PM
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I've been described as "willful" many times by men I've dated in the past or otherwise described as a "force to be reckoned with" sort of deal. I certainly had the internal capacity to defer to a strong man, but I sure as hell wasn't going to do that for any man I couldn't fully respect. A submissive woman doesn't mean a doormat, and it doesn't mean she needs to show weak will and bend to whatever anyone around her wants. Being a pushover is not attractive. Recognizing worth in a man and showing…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 01:51 PM
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I don't trust our government half enough to be comfortable with mandated DNA tests. The concept is fine I guess, and I would be interested to see the statistics because I don't believe paternity fraud is anywhere near as common as many RP people believe. I do think it's perfectly reasonable to demand a paternity test in order to qualify a woman to receive child support from the man in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 01:55 AM
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IME men get more clingy with their first than women and the woman sticks in their hearts more than the other way around. Every person remembers their first, unless they were drunk or something. It doesn't mean they have any emotions, whether positive or negative, about it. I do believe there is a psychological component to this where you'll feel more confident being someone's first/only, but much of the time I don't think it's based in actual reality. I'm still a little jealous of Husband's firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 09:38 PM
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Porn stars aren't paid to fuck well, they're paid to look good while often faking orgasms and doing all sorts of choreographed positions that aren't practical in everyday life. Being good at sex is an escort's job. Most slutty women are not making a career out of it and studying extensively, working to give their "clients" the best experience possible. Those two groups of people do not remotely resemble the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 09:09 PM
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I certainly learned how to give blow jobs before meeting my Husband, but I may as well have never given one at all because what he enjoys is different from other men. In fact, without my prior experience I probably could have perfected my technique with him even faster. He had never gone down on a single woman before me but was amazing from the get go because he knows how to read my body and tell when something is working or not without needing to be "trained." Everyone's body is different. Know…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 05:13 PM
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Also "practice makes perfect" is a fallacy when it comes to sex. You don't need a ton of partners to be good at sex Exactly. I don't know why people still spout that nonsense. Especially coming from the "every person is different and unique and attracted to different things" crowd. I've also heard from a lot of men that the sluttiest women are often the worst in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 05:04 PM
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among the married couples, a higher discrepancy between men's and women's number of previous intercourse partners was related to lower levels of love, satisfaction, and commitment Hmm, that's very interesting. I can see why a large disparity would cause more problem than numbers alone, but I had never heard this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 04:57 PM
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Good luck! :)
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/15 03:03 PM
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As someone with a chronic illness that leaves me with almost no energy, I can relate to your husband's reluctance to go out much. Do you have children? We don't have kids yet, so that leaves us more options, or at least easier. If you have kids I would recommend finding a weekly-ish sitter to give you some time just for yourselves. As far as things we do to have fun at home: take a night to get a bunch of snacks and watch a movie together. It's much more fun and leaves more room for intimacy whe…
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/15 01:33 PM
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He deserves to know your sexual past before you start having sex. He may choose to leave, or may decide you have treated him unfairly, but everyone has the right to know the background of someone to whom them are offering their commitment. I was somewhat in that situation with Husband. I was very nervous that he would leave after hearing of my past, but obviously he didn't. I would have the commitment conversation sooner rather than later. Make sure that you have the same ideas about where thing…
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/15 01:06 PM
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Just because you're subbed to that site or agree with TRP in general does not mean you agree with every single idea that anyone posts there. What you have listed are not central or essential parts of TRP. They're just the opinions of a few users. That's like asking how anyone could possibly date a Christian who worships a god that sends good people to hell to suffer eternal torment for no reason other than not accepting him. There are a very large amount of Christians who conveniently decide to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 12:17 PM
1

I find cosmology incredibly interesting but don't remember numbers well, so I had to look it up ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 08:34 PM
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We don't know for certain how many galaxies there are in the universe, but the estimate is about a hundred billion. We can't even get close to knowing the amount of solar systems that exist in the universe, let alone how many planets belong to each of those solar systems. Even a conservative estimate has about 20 zeros in it. Considering that there is an unimaginably large amount of planets out there, I would say that it's incredibly unlikely that life would not exist on a single one of them. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 07:57 PM
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I feel exactly the same way. I don't believe in fate or even that Husband is the only person with whom I could ever be happy, but I don't think it would be possible for me to be morecompatible with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 07:47 PM
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If the top tier of intelligent women are equal to the top tier of men, where are the female versions of Stephen Hawking and Neil Degrasse Tyson and Richard Dawkins? I do not buy that the reason for this is that science is a "boys club." If you are that capable and that driven you will earn your place. If it's that scary for you to enter into a STEM field because you're a girl you do not deserve to be in science because if you are that capable and that passionate it wouldn't stop you. Robots prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 04:39 PM
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That's my biggest beef with it. That whole "the sub is really the one in power" thing. I want nothing to do with that. It's just my life. I'm not playing, and it sure as hell isn't all about me getting my submissive sexual desires met by telling Husband how I would like to be dominated and how I would not like it to be. When it's only in the bedroom it just seems half assed to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 12:01 AM
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Kind of skipping the first prompt because I think it's too broad for me to be able to answer well. Do you think women are inferior to men? Not really. Most people are a bit of a disappointment to me if I'm being honest. For the most part I think that top percentile intelligent men are smarter than the smartest women. Looking at the average population I really don't see much of a difference. I think I found a good way of explaining my stance on that: men are more capable and thus "superior" when …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 09:03 PM
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Haha, it drives me absolutely nuts but I know that's why he does it. That seems to be a common male thing. They like to get a rise out of us, sometimes by any means necessary. ;-P
/r/RedPillWomen21/03/15 08:32 PM
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I think if only one person wants it and then their partner just accepts it, it's better if the one who actually wants it is the submissive one, whatever the gender configuration of the relationship I can agree with that, with the exception of the possibility of a woman (or man) not realizing that's what she (or he) wants until she (or he) has it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 01:55 PM
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My Husband is constantly trying to sabotage me on this one. We always pee with the door open, hell, even when company is over they will sometimes leave the door open if they know us well because they know we couldn't care less. Two hard and fast rules for me are that he cannot be anywhere in the vicinity if I'm going number 2 and he can't be around for any bathroom stuff having to do with my period. Both of those things are struggles for me and I do my best, but he likes to torture me by sneakin…
/r/RedPillWomen21/03/15 01:47 PM
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Most RPW have their own jobs, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 01:20 PM
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This sort of reads like the only way one of these relationships can be healthy is if the woman wants it and the man just kind of goes along with it. Out of curiosity, is that your basic stance, or am I misinterpreting your statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 01:14 PM
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It could just be bias on my part, but from what I've seen, BPW are far more likely to tell us that our chosen lifestyle is inherently wrong than the other way around. I am pretty active in RPW and have not found it common to see women claiming our way is objectively correct and all other women need to get on our level, so to speak. But I have been attacked many times here and told that my marriage is some sort of abomination and the only possibility is that I'm abused and have Stockholm syndrome…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 01:09 PM
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D'awww shucks <3
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 12:56 PM
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Haha, Husband opted for cookies instead of pie, which was simultaneously a relief and a disappointment. I was going to say the same of your username! We love Arrested Development :D
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 11:46 PM
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You are dead wrong. Do you think I've never been in a relationship that was equal in the way you describe? There's a reason those didn't end in marriage but I have a very happy one now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 11:31 PM
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Why? Are your views of the variety that say women should not be permitted to stay at home with their children because they have a duty to all other women to join the rat race? Should traditionally minded women be forced into an "egalitarian" relationship that they do not want because you've decided that their desires are "wrong?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 11:26 PM
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The whole RP concept is something that only exists to me on reddit. If I were to bring it up in the real world I would probably describe my marriage as traditional, but I certainly wouldn't go into a whole RP spiel. There are a couple of main reasons I follow RPW: we preach personal accountability with brutal honesty, which is something I feel is lacking in most forums, not to even mention society at large. If you go on complaining about your husband you are going to be asked what YOU have been …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 11:12 PM
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Because that isn't the individual lifestyle choice someone in or seeking a RP relationship wants to make. It's as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 10:16 PM
1

Your employees can't fire you, but your wife can sure as hell leave you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 10:06 PM
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As I replied to someone else, a RP marriage cannot exist under the circumstances you are describing. A man cannot simply demand his wife follow his lead without giving her adequate evidence that her trust is not misplaced. Do you really think your SO is that irresponsible that you need to be at the ready to veto that yacht? I don't need to think about what I would do if my husband made a catastrophically horrible decision because I married a man I knew I could trust to lead our family. In this h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 10:00 PM
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What should I do if my husband started making horrible decisions that would ensure mutual destruction? Well I can tell you he wouldn't be captain of the ship any longer. If a man does not earn his place at the head of the house, the answer is very simple. He isn't the head of the house. A bumbling idiot who can't manage money to save his life could not be in a RP marriage. A RP marriage cannot exist under the circumstances you are describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 09:49 PM
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Do you date a guy that is also privy to TRP? I'm married to one. Are you currently dating what TRP would consider a Alpha or Beta? Do you think the TRP theories stand true to what they claim you want in a relationship? For the most part yes, I want what TRP claims I want. The notion that an individual is either an alpha or a beta is dumb. It's about certain behaviors. He has the appropriate mix of alpha and beta characteristics to keep me sexually interested while not tremendously insecure. Do y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 01:33 PM
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Because you keep saying the same thing over and over as though it even remotely refutes what I said, which you actually haven't addressed at all. I heard you the first time you said what you've repeated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 01:14 PM
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That's so oversimplified as to be a meaningless statement. Do you seriously reject the fact that women are inherently more cautious in general, and particularly when it comes to putting themselves out there for dating and sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 02:47 AM
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Obvious fact, huh? People don't just use dating sites because they're desperate. Women have a greater range of reasons to use online dating than men do, and many of those reasons apply to attractive women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 01:56 AM
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It only applies more to attractive women in that they are likely to have experienced more situations of being approached by men who made them uncomfortable for one reason or another. I don't necessarily think that there are more attractive women vs unattractive on dating sites. I was just stating that I think with women there's more likely to be a fairly even distribution appearance wise because of the additional risk we take in dating, which applies to both attractive and unattractive women. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 01:23 AM
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You seem to be deliberately misunderstanding me. It isn't difficult for an attractive woman to meet people. What is difficult is feeling safe that you aren't going to be in a position of being pressured into sex that you don't want or winding up feeling uncomfortable or scared, because small, weak women can be completely reasonably skittish around strange men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 12:55 AM
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I do agree that the whole "men are dangerous" thing is incredibly overblown and that the great majority of men are at least decent people who would never intentionally do me harm. It doesn't really ease my desire to be cautious, though. Plus men generally are more likely than women to want to have sex early on, and when I was single I wanted to make sure I wouldn't wind up in the position of being pressured or the awkwardness of turning someone down for sex. IME if you make out with a dude he's …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 05:06 PM
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Did you not even read my comment? Attractive women have even more reason to be cautious, if anything. When you are approached constantly in public you'll understand the desire to get to know someone a bit before agreeing to go out with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 03:06 PM
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I certainly wouldn't. As I said in another comment, dating is more risky for women. Since we have more at stake it makes perfect sense to me for us to be more comfortable getting to know a person a bit before meeting them in person. Our biology makes us more cautious. Men don't have to worry about their physical safety. The most an attractive man has to fear when flirting with a woman in public is rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 01:27 PM
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Seriously? I can't even imagine how that would work since the tissue can grow and shrink so much and as far as I know there is no implantable material that can do so to that degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 09:35 PM
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I don't really have regrets because all of the mistakes I made shaped who I am today, and I wouldn't want to give that up. But I do wish I hadn't wanted to not seem like an uppity bitch so badly that I accepted an invitation to a guy's house even though I felt uneasy about it. I did not learn or grow from being raped. It did only harm and has not enhanced my life or shaped my personality for the better in any way, shape, or form.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 09:18 PM
1

That adds half an inch in length and nothing to girth anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 09:09 PM
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Duck size is way higher priority for me than dick size.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 09:08 PM
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The dating game is more risky for women. I met Husband on OKC and had a few prior dates I met there, and felt much more comfortable getting to know the person a bit before meeting them. I am not afraid of men in general and think they are mostly decent people and not just a bunch of potential rapists like some feminists suggest, but the fact is that ANY man I meet, barring physical disabilities, could physically overpower me. Women are biologically programmed to be more cautious when it comes to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 08:54 PM
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Would you not consider the possibility that okcupid disproportionately represents less attractive men because the most attractive men are less likely to need/want to use an online dating site?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 06:38 PM
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I don't understand what this has to do with hypergamy...? Are you just trying to point out that women have higher standards than men do? What is your point here?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:38 AM
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Husband is head of the household and has final call on all decisions. We fill very stereotypically masculine and feminine roles, respectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 12:01 AM
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Absolutely. I think the major misstep is in assuming most people want to do only one or the other. I don't consider myself a switch by any means, nor does Husband consider himself to be, but that doesn't mean he doesn't enjoy me being in control in the bedroom sometimes. I would guess that finding a person who wants to dominate/be dominated 100% of the time would be more difficult to come by than many like to pretend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 11:03 PM
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That makes much more sense, then. If all you want is sex you don't have to do much more than be attractive, and if you ONLY want sex it's probably best not to exhibit too great a personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 05:43 PM
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That's why I said if we are talking about two men of equally good looks. If a man is already physically attractive I do not believe that intelligence will ever work against him unless he's on the autism spectrum and incapable of being remotely relatable because all he wants to discuss is physics.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 05:13 PM
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This seems very anti-RP though, specifically in that it contradicts the idea of hypergamy. I don't believe for a moment that between two men of equal good looks, the less intelligent one will be more appealing to women. While men may not mind, or even prefer, a woman who is slightly below him in intellect, a woman is probably not going to stay attracted to our respect a man she deems of lesser intelligence to her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 05:05 PM
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Hormonal contraceptives aren't 100% effective either. It makes no sense to blame a man for just not protecting himself well enough if you are not willing to say that women who get pregnant on accident are equally irresponsible and should be forced to live with their "poor decision making."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 09:56 PM
1

Only if we can all wear Pussy Riot style ski masks
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 03:39 PM
2

In a purely moral and idealistic sense, I do believe men should absolutely have the right to refuse parental responsibility. However, in our current cultural climate this will never happen, and it isn't even about a feminist society. It's about the fact that the government must subsidize the choices of these women or else leave these children to starve or take them away. And one thing a politician is going to have trouble getting elected on is the platform of letting single mothers and their kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 03:32 PM
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Are you a feminist who believes women shouldn't be able to get abortions and learn to leave their legs closed or be more careful instead, or do you reserve that sort of blaming only for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 03:23 PM
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Husband and I try to stay in the habit of respecting each other's time and company by not excessively using our phones during our time together. For us it is completely acceptable to give a quick "who ya talking to?" if we are together and the other is on their phone, as a quick and polite reminder that we are working together to have better habits, and to make sure it isn't something important that couple time needs to be postponed for. The key is that it's never accusatory and we trust each ot…
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/15 10:01 PM
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This is going to vary greatly from man to man. Husband and I love to tease each other and he has a pretty high tolerance for teasing, but there are limits which kind of needed to be worked out through trial and error. He has some insecurities I didn't know about and if I touch on a sensitive subject he just requests I don't joke about it anymore and the key is I listen. I also try to make things as hyperbolic as possible and make sure it's things I would NEVER say seriously so there's no questio…
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/15 01:41 PM
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Exactly. I know so many couples who swing or are interested in poly and have trouble finding a balance that works because no one wants the man. It's really easy to find women who want to be with me but very difficult to find one who wants Husband to be involved as well, in spite of him being very attractive (and I'm not just saying so out of bias). I believe this has something to do with not only female physical standards being higher, but the more "invasive" nature of taking someone inside you …
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/15 01:21 PM
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I have a "girlfriend," using the term incredibly loosely. My Husband is still completely in charge of the relationship. He's still my Captain and everything is on his terms. He puts up with sharing some of my time and affection with someone else because it's worth it to him to have frequent threesomes (girlfriend is extremely attractive). There is no sex outside of our relationship, per the rules we worked out, but I see no reason he could no longer be my Captain if we both slept with other peop…
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/15 01:16 PM
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I would consider myself pretty sexist, but your definition still doesn't convince me there's anything wrong with that. TRP's views on women are based on personal experience. And what do you mean by unjust? I treat men differently than I do women as an automatic. That is technically discrimination and prejudice. But I see nothing negative or harmful about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 01:10 PM
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I like the topic sign up sheet idea better than just rotating. That way no one ends up on a "shift" talking about a subject they don't really care about. It'll be more interesting if the participants are particularly interested rather than just talking to talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 12:49 PM
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This seems like a job for /r/asktrp
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 02:58 AM
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Can confirm. I don't say no to Husband, but he has no qualms about saying no to me. I think it's more about HL vs LL than it is about gender, though men are more likely to be the HL partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 12:53 AM
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As far as hobbies and related equipment goes, I have personally experienced the opposite. Women often ask me about the materials I use and seem interested in it and are willing to do some research, but I think most of the men I know are too proud to ask someone else so they just go with what the salesperson suggested and regurgitate all the great features they were told about. Again I think a lot of this has to do with gender differences. I'm not likely to ask a man for help with one of my hobbi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 12:42 AM
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Yes, that makes sense. I am actually starting to wonder if women scored less in "who did help you out", because they didn't feel competent enough. At least when it comes to helping women, I think men are more likely to be helpful because they are more easily lured by even the remotest prospect of sex. That, and they are taught chivalry while women... aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 11:05 PM
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I accidentally deleted my first response somehow, so I'm starting over because I find this topic interesting. had problems with your computer. Husband. In fact I don't really even get the chance to have computer problems in the first place because he stays on top of it so well. wanted to buy a new bike, camera or any other expensive gear and needed someone who really knows their stuff and has a good overview of the market. Someone who has a subscription to relevant magazines and enthusiastically…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 10:36 PM
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I disagree that feeling society has failed you is a necessary factor in being able to call yourself RP. "Society" owes me nothing. It wasn't the job of society to teach me how to have a happy and fulfilling marriage. I will say that feminism fucked my life a bit and I wish I had never been exposed to third wave feminism because I would've been much better off, but I feel no animosity toward "society," which is an uncomfortably vague term for me. I don't like it when feminists use it because basi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 04:31 PM
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I pleaded with the heavens for a more attractive voice and was denied.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 02:04 AM
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I agree with you completely. Since this was the first one there are still a lot of kinks to work out. It's difficult to contribute in a meaningful way when it becomes chaotic. I think there's potential there and this is a good suggestion. I hope that you are able to participate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 02:02 AM
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I already asked baby Jesus. He said no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 01:55 AM
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Well, where I grew up as a kid most of my friends' parents were drug addicts who were too busy getting high to care for their kids, so my parents were definitely more involved. Once we moved to a nicer area they were about equally involved in comparison to other kids. did your parents make your breakfast, lunch, dinner or did you do that yourself? when my parents were married my mom cooked all meals for me. When they divorced daddy time included root beer for breakfast and ice cream for dinner. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 03:56 PM
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Which again makes me think that you are really young and these girls just haven't grown up yet. Attraction isn't a conscious decision and the most physically appealing will almost always prevail in the dating game, regardless of their professional, skills, or lack thereof. But being into the starving artist bad boy type seems to end shortly after leaving the teenage years.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 05:01 AM
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Depends on the woman, I guess. After all, if he's a shitty DJ he's probably also broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 04:54 AM
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I can't think of any "special treatment" I want by virtue of being a woman. I would love the sort of "special treatment" that came from women being married off early, kept at home, made to do the bidding of her husband in exchange for his protection, and failing to fulfill wifely duties was seen as shameful. Is being legally owned as property a special privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 04:44 AM
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I think you are using "men in general" and "the very top tier of men" interchangeably.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 04:36 AM
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I'm genuinely curious about your age. Where on the planet can doctors not get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 04:31 AM
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I think the type of crazy tends to be really different between men and women also. That guy is a pretty extreme example, but I'm assuming he also had the benefit of an intimidating physical presence. Male craziness often entails some level of physical danger. If a girl tries to get out of hand with me I can be like "ha, that's cute. Talk to me when you're ready to behave like a normal person." If a guy gets crazy on me I'm like "oh shit, am I gonna be murdered or severely injured?" So even when …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 03:16 AM
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This is perfectly good advice for getting laid, but I find that TRP is most useful/needed within a LTR or even STRs, which this list doesn't address. Maintaining attraction with someone who knows you intimately is an entirely different ball game from luring someone in at a club or going through the honeymoon period.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 12:43 AM
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Except I'm not out burning crosses or getting pissed off that there are people different from me. There is no parallel that could remotely be drawn between RPW and the KKK. We are not an activist group. We're just trying to improve our own relationships, not butt into anyone else's. That analogy makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 08:11 PM
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I don't understand the question. I find RPW more useful to me than most BDSM groups and blogs I have come across. Why is it an either/or?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 07:29 PM
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Right. When TRP says logic is not the default setting for the female brain, I would venture to say it's not the default setting for most humans. Man, I have known some nutty dudes. Overall crazier than women IME, but that's likely because I don't lose "frame" in relationships with women or let things get out of hand in the first place. I would guess we've got about an equal capacity to be crazy. I doubt most RP guys would deny that either, it's just not something there's any reason to talk about…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 01:06 PM
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My experience is very much in line with RP, a large caveat being that the average dude sucks just as bad as the average female. The things that attract me to women are completely different from those that attract me to men. If a man acted like the sort of girl I like I would be absolutely repulsed, and vice versa. I crave to be dominated by a man, but I have definitely been the dominant one in all of my relationships with women, purely sexual or otherwise. I've inadvertently used RP tactics with…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 02:02 AM
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I dunno, but the fashion was ON POINT.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 09:49 PM
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I largely agree with you; however, you are claiming that "liberals" don't pay attention to science while not mentioning any actual science yourself. You are taking the "this sounds like it makes sense" path rather than the "here is the research that has been done and the conclusion of most modern scientists" approach. You can't say "you guys don't even science" when you are not employing actual science in your argument either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 09:48 PM
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I suddenly got acne right after getting married and had trouble with it for an entire year until I started oil cleansing. It took about a month but my skin cleared up dramatically. I definitely recommend it.
/r/RedPillWomen01/03/15 08:22 PM
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Husband likes it when I show some jealousy as long as it's in a cute, teasing way and not a "you're a scumbag! How could you do this to me? What, do you want that other woman instead?!" sort of way. I put on my fake-grumpy voice and pout and say I'm gonna have to punch some bitches. It always gives him this huge grin.
/r/RedPillWomen01/03/15 04:31 PM
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That was my apparently terrible attempt at a joke :-/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 03:31 PM
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Curious, do you use disposable when you are out and about and only use cloth when you will be home, or do you have some method of dealing with them while you're out of the house?
/r/RedPillWomen28/02/15 04:14 AM
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"Dance For You" and "1+1" by Beyoncé are a couple of my favorites. I have a fairly extensive love song playlist that I like to listen to while doing things for Husband, but I'm not sure how many qualify as RPW songs. I don't know of a whole lot by women that are specifically about serving our men.
/r/RedPillWomen28/02/15 04:06 AM
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I don't really think this is a debate. Either she can prosecute or she can't, right? That isn't a matter of opinion. I would say she's got about the same amount of chance of scoring a conviction as anyone else saying her boyfriend raped her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 03:25 AM
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I would participate in a podcast. Then I could pretend I have friends. I'm so lonely D:
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 03:08 AM
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Men don't want lazy women who aren't hard workers, but seem to be more willing to drag along dead weight. When I say being a hard worker is important for a woman I don't mean that she should have career goals and ambitions of climbing that corporate ladder. Plenty of men want women with jobs because they will become resentful of supporting a lazy woman who isn't pulling her weight, and don't view what she is willing to do around the home as adequate payment for room and board. Some men value mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 02:55 AM
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I vehemently disagree that it is in any way disrespectful to see a high partner count as a negative thing. Different people have different preferences. I would never in a million years enter into a serious relationship with a religious person and as far as dating goes I see that as a negative to the point of a complete deal breaker, but I don't feel disdain for the religious. I have religious friends and family who I care for very deeply. Saying "I would not enter a relationship with a person wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:01 AM
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No worries. I get where you're coming from and have similar frustrations, what with kink often being likened to some sort of mental illness or sign of general instability. I realize "torture" as well as some of the other words I used above have negative connotations to some, but I don't see it that way so I don't really notice until someone else points it out. Pardon my over-sensitivity. I get that way sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 09:05 PM
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You may have misunderstood me. I didn't say TRP at large is respectful of women. I only said that it is possible to be RP without disrespecting women. Husband saw my partner count as a red flag but was willing to look past it because of my other qualities. Seeing it as a red flag is not "shaming."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 04:27 PM
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Husband doesn't have an alt, but I can tell you he's never been anything but respectful to women to the capacity that they earn it, which is exactly how he is with men. Finding TRP didn't make him suddenly start treating me like a pile of dog crap. Being a respectful human being and not a giant douchebag and generally agreeing with the principles of TRP are not mutually exclusive. That is a lame and false assertion. Are you just completely ignoring all of the successful RP LTRs out there?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 02:22 PM
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That isn't rape. It's called theft.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 02:17 PM
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I experienced some of this when first adjusting as well. I didn't see everything Husband was doing for me/us. I only saw all of the work that I was putting in. But as time went on I not only started noticing more the things he was doing, but he began to reciprocate more in his own way. He doesn't emote much at all, so I would work my butt off cleaning or making dinner and he wouldn't say anything or do anything more than a quick "thanks" for dinner and it would upset me because I thought he lite…
/r/RedPillWomen27/02/15 02:12 PM
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Okay, dude. I don't like the term "play" or doing "scenes" because I am not playing or putting on a show. There is something gross to me about that dynamic existing solely as a bedroom activity, which I have found to be the case for the majority of people into kink in my area, so I don't often participate in the community. The one in my city is rather small and filled with fat, unattractive people who I don't care to watch fucking. When Husband wants to beat the shit out of me he wants to cum at…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 01:42 PM
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Aw darn, I didn't know I was such a stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 02:55 AM
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If I were your husband I would be extremely concerned about this behavior. You spent all that time on your degree only to decide it's not what makes you happy, and now you want to open a restaurant? What if you decide that doesn't make you happy either? I'm not trying to argue you out of it, but it seems like you are expecting too much of your husband. In what universe would he possibly immediately jump to and offer his full support in this situation? It's A LOT to take in. You are asking him to…
/r/RedPillWomen27/02/15 02:49 AM
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I don't watch BDSM porn, or straight porn in general, and I've never read 50 Shades. Are you gonna quiz me on how many "meetings" I've been to? Wanna post some photos of torture devices to see how many I can correctly identify? My Husband builds some of them if you're ever in the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 02:02 AM
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None yet, but we are planning to start trying in a couple of months. I have wanted children for quite some time, but it is admittedly a terrifying prospect when I'm actually planning for it rather than seeing it as some far off future thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 01:18 AM
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Meh. I'm pretty apathetic about the whole thing, but it is true that obese people drive up healthcare costs for everyone because they make up excuses about being insanely overweight and instead insist on tests and medications meant to mask the symptoms of their refusal to put forth the hard work to be a healthy size.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 01:12 AM
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As much as these terms get used incorrectly, I think one thing people do not need spelled out for them is that BDSM is consensual. None of the things I listed are abuse when in the context of an agreed upon relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 12:41 AM
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Okay? Well, I am. I'm also a hairstylist, but when I'm talking about hair I don't use the terms I learned in school, I use the terms that most people understand and use, even when they are technically incorrect, because it gets the point across more easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 12:22 AM
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I'm VERY familiar with BDSM, thanks. 90% of people do not use the term fetish correctly. I was using it as it is commonly used, with the definition most people (incorrectly) understand. And by its actual definition it does not apply only to inanimate objects, so not only are you a dick but you are incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 12:06 AM
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I wouldn't call my Husband a chump by any means when we met, but my SMV was quite a bit higher at the time. Even though his circumstances weren't particularly impressive at the time I could tell he was going to go places. He was extremely shy and self-deprecating, but he wasn't desperate for a girlfriend either. He was focused on his studies and didn't want to date unless he knew it was going somewhere. I would say that while not being a chump or a loser he was definitely not "alpha material" fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 10:27 PM
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D/s relationships involve a sexual fetish. A RP relationship doesn't require any sort of kink. My great grandparents were not in a D/s relationship. The Biblical standard for marriage is not a D/s situation. They're just male-led relationships. Deferring to your SO does not make you a submissive in a BDSM sense. I do think it's pretty fucking dumb that D/s relationships are seen as perfectly acceptable to the "open minded," but a RP marriage isn't. In a 24/7 D/s relationship there are many aspec…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 09:37 PM
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Those who employ the Ludus style sounds like the type that doesn't want a LTR in the first place. That's something reserved for plates and is not what is advised in a marriage. A "relationship" with a plate is not meant to last or be emotionally fulfilling. It doesn't particularly matter in the long run what sort of relationship one follows with a plate as it is going to be short lived and transient anyway. An ideal RP marriage would fit more closely with the Eros model. There's nothing emotiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 02:14 PM
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Statistically most fat people do not really end up getting "better." They stay fat and then tell doctors their joint pain is unrelated to their weight, and continue to insist on tests, and then die of obesity related disease that they refuse to believe actually has anything to do with being fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:17 PM
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I can only think of maybe a couple of acts that would cause me severe emotional distress if done with my Husband, because he loves and respects me and if I were having issues with it later he would comfort me about it and we wouldn't have to do it ever again. That's never happened, though, because even doing the most degrading things I can think of aren't degrading when done with someone I know is madly in love with me and cares about me as a person. To me if you're even capable of feeling truly…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 02:23 PM
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Ladies don't think what through? I've done everything with Husband that I ever did with anyone else, plus bonus acts. I really think if most people did something with their partner that they felt was degrading in the past, if you have a real connection it will be a completely different experience with your SO. That's one of the reasons I wanted to do everything with him that I had ever done, and he was nice enough to try some things he didn't necessarily even want to before. I don't like the tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 02:14 PM
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Okay, the question was whether a girl should be mad that a guy won't LTR her, and the first sentence of text said the title said it all and it wasn't necessary to read the rest, so I didn't. Maybe I'm missing something. Agreeing to enter a LTR with someone goes beyond changing a Facebook status. To me, I consider it a relationship if there's an agreement of exclusivity, regardless of whether or not it's "official." So if he isn't wanting to LTR you, he isn't wanting to say he won't see other peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:36 AM
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No, I know there are a great deal of women who enjoy kink. But if they did it in the past and now don't want to it could easily be because they found whatever it was traumatic. It seemed like the person I'm responding to was saying women don't do things in bed they don't like, and I'm just saying they most certainly do, and sometimes it can be emotionally damaging. Not in every case, of course. But it does happen pretty frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:03 AM
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Fair enough. It's definitely not uncommon for women to enjoy kink. At all. But it's also presumptuous to assume if a woman said she tried something and didn't like it that she's lying and it's really because she isn't attracted enough to you. Not saying that doesn't ever happen either, but I don't think it's something you can draw conclusions on without more information.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 02:36 AM
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To be clear, I didn't mean to say that women should do whatever sex acts their dudes request or he has every right to get mad, but that it's okay for a man to deny commitment and no one should care. If a girl didn't want to do certain acts with me I would question whether she found me attractive. Ultimately it would be my decision to stay or go, but certainly not within my rights to stick around nagging and complaining or trying to force it upon her. Similarly, if the dude won't commit, move on.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 02:33 AM
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As soon as you make it official you are opening the door for a lot more drama should things not end well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 02:28 AM
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No. You are never justified in being mad that someone won't commit to you as long as they're being honest about it. This is not parallel to women not wanting to do certain sex acts with her LTR that she used to do. Those acts will last maybe an hour, probably less. The only potential consequence is discomfort. Committing to someone is completely different. You are giving them your time, money, affection, attention, and giving them a certain amount of control over your life and personal happiness…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 01:24 AM
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I don't understand your argument. You think women don't do things they don't like in bed? I've done plenty of things that I hated in the past, shit, I even continue to do things with Husband that I don't like, because he does. I think a lot of women are talked into doing those things with other men, hate them and feel bad about themselves for doing it, and then it has a negative connotation in their mind and they don't want to do it with their partner. To me, I think it should be a totally diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 01:03 AM
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Well, it's important to note that at the time I had some undiagnosed/inadequately treated mental health issues which contributed greatly to my initial loss of drive, I believe more so than anything Husband was doing "wrong." So getting those treated was certainly a step in the right direction. It had done a lot of harm to our relationship, and he had let my depression make him depressed. I didn't ever want to leave the house, so he stayed in with me. I didn't feel like having sex (also want to n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 09:49 PM
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I've seen a lot of women respond that way, but I would agree that it doesn't describe most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 01:30 PM
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If a woman has a decreased sex drive with her partner... she will talk to her partner about the issues. You cannot negotiate desire. When I was having attraction issues with my Husband I couldn't give him explicit, step-by-step instructions on how to regain the spark, because a.) if I give him explicit instructions I will know exactly what he's doing, it will seem really disingenuous, and probably just irritate me more than anything else, and b.) I found it nearly impossible to articulate what w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 01:24 PM
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I would disagree. My Husband, for one, enjoys a far better sex life than he did before. And well, obviously I do also. You are only paying attention to the absolute worst examples of guys who have very nefarious intentions. There is nothing wrong with wanting your wife to be attracted to you, and it's more than possible to employ RP tactics without being an emotionally abusive bastard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 01:08 PM
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Right, but this is about a ONS. To me that's sort of being dishonest or leading someone on if you know you have no interest in really getting to know them but you are showing them your vulnerable side and expressing feelings. Maybe it's the girl's fault for falling for it, but still, sounds shady.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 03:21 AM
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I think maybe yours was the first one and then this is the third that's been posted. Unless I'm on too many drugs and dreamed up the other thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:43 PM
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You don't think that expressing vulnerability to a woman he plans to never speak to again is at least flirting with dishonesty?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 03:18 AM
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I never really considered myself a feminist but I participated in some casual feminist groups and had feminist friends. My mind kind of changed slowly, and I remember it starting when I was at a party and we were all high and some girl started bringing up all these stories of calling people out in public after eavesdropping on their conversations and deciding something was anti-woman. I wanted to ruuunnnn far away, but everyone was high fiving her and stuff. Sorry, but I don't want to get stoned…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 01:33 AM
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After some consideration, my theory is this: RPW is much less likely to have concrete rules since TRP is about keeping men happy. On TRP men are given more specific instructions on how to increase their own happiness, and the improvement in their relationships is simply a necessary secondary effect. It's easier to give more concrete guidance on exhibiting masculine behaviors. The entire focus of RPW is our relationships, the understanding being that attracting a good man and keeping him happy wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 09:22 PM
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JFC. That's goddamn insane. I'm glad you recognize those women as crazy pants instead of what you should just get used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 07:38 PM
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Hahahahahaha dying. Your second example is a perfect illustration of what I meant when I said a right off the bat emotional man would be an absolute nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 07:32 PM
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How does one appear emotionless but also not inhuman? Many seem to take the "don't show emotion" thing way too far. There is a happy medium. To earn access to any sort of vulnerability should be a difficult process wherein the person must earn your trust, and even once they have done so it is important to self-regulate as much as possible and avoid using them as a therapist or human security blanket. But if you are in an otherwise healthy relationship your woman is probably not going to leave yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 07:29 PM
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The key is in balance. Showing emotion isn't "sexy," but the entirety of a LTR isn't about being sexy. We do need comfort and safety\beta behaviors, some women more than others, of course. The problem occurs when she feels like she has to start mothering you. Most of the men who say "NEVER show emotion to a woman no matter what" are saying so because they haven't learned to do so appropriately so instead they just don't at all. Granted it probably works better than going the other way, but most …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 07:22 PM
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This is precisely how it should be done. Being able to open up emotionally too quickly is a sign of someone who is either unstable, too easily trusting, incredibly naive\doesn't have much practical life experience, or all of the above. If the only way you can establish comfort with a woman is to talk about your feelings and make her feel sympathy for you there is something really wrong with your game.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 07:12 PM
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Yeah, this is incredibly weird. Did they ever say you were inadvertently blame-y or something, or they just genuinely thought no boyfriend of theirs should ever dare to be sad because it's a personal affront to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 07:06 PM
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I guess it depends on how one defines "opening up." One can create comfort and connection by means other than talking about your dog that died when you were eight. I am personally extremely turned off by anyone who is willing to show any sort of emotional vulnerability too quickly. I've never gone to bars as a single person looking to hook up, but I imagine that I would feel really uncomfortable if the guy who was hitting on me suddenly started acting all emotional. That honestly sounds like a n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 06:46 PM
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It's a bit difficult for people to respond to you when they have to go pick up a book and read it before being able to adequately do so. If you want responses you could at least add a bit more detail to your synopsis. Surely his ideas themselves are not copyrighted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 06:27 PM
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Is there a link somewhere to his opinion? Based only on what you've described, I think it's a bad, or at least pointless, idea to open up emotionally to a ONS. Why would you do that? I don't even understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 05:47 PM
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Yes. If you really have an argument against someone's views their appearance needn't ever come into it. Grasping at straws to insult appearance just shows you've run out of intelligent counterargument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 05:20 PM
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I've never done anything with sexual with anyone else that I haven't done with Husband and that he can't get on the regular. There are also plenty of things that I had never tried previously that I now do with him. I don't say no to anything he wants to try. It isn't an AF\BB situation where I had my days of fun sex and then settled down with a nice, stable guy. I have my AFBB in one person, and for him I am his lady in the streets and you know the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 03:17 PM
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Haha. I've actually never made one. I don't like them and Husband doesn't care for it much either. I hear tales that store bought is just as good as homemade, but I can neither confirm nor deny.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 03:02 PM
2

If he left he probably wouldn't go looking for another woman. He can certainly attract other women, but dating and the effort it requires has always been low on his priority list. He doesn't care about sex or relationships enough to let them interrupt his life at all. Divorce is absolutely unheard of in his family, and he is the sort who always follows through on his commitments. It would probably take something tantamount to infidelity that would cause him to leave as in divorce or cheat, but I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 05:31 AM
3

I don't think most people really fit perfectly as an alpha or beta. It's more about alpha and beta behaviors than a person being one or the other themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 03:44 AM
2

Red I'm a woman, soooo I dunno. I don't really care about social hierarchies. I just want to be alone all the time, but I'm comforted by being bossed around by my Husband. No idea what that makes me. ISTJ
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 03:40 AM
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I guess I get that, I just still think it's lame and I couldn't imagine wanting to spend my time circle jerking with other people about how weird this other group is. It just feels unnecessarily mean to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 01:34 AM
6

You mean the ratio between my ring and index fingers? Yes. I'm not sure where you're going with that question, though...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 01:31 AM
3

It's not just about manhood, it's a sexual strategy. Some other things have gotten thrown into it on the subreddit, but they're only tangentially related. If you want to be MGTOW and not bother with women at all I really have no idea what you would be doing on a sub about sexual strategy, but what do I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 01:23 AM
3

What a strange question. Why would their appearance be any different than if you just threw a bunch of random people into a room? I don't think that any trend whatsoever can be decided upon solely based on someone's subscriptions on reddit, and frankly trying to insult someone's appearance because you don't like their ideas is really childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 01:20 AM
8

Dude, how many threads are there going to be about the damn finger ratio thing? It's been done to death at this point. I'm not convinced it really tells much of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 01:10 AM
1

yeah, I see what you mean now. I'm not ever around any men besides my coworkers and family, so I don't even get as much opportunity to think people are lame, haha. It doesn't really affect my working relationships since I work with a bunch of chemists who are way more educated than I am, so I just think of them in that context. It's just when they talk about their relationships at all I'm like baaarrrfffff, you guys suck. I still don't think it's bad that you have that gut reaction as long as yo…
/r/RedPillWomen21/02/15 01:08 AM
3

That's not the one I'm talking about. I know what you're referring to, but this was more recent than that. It was about pajamas or something. The one you're talking about is probably strange for most people, but if that's something they agreed upon and she trusts his fashion sense I don't see anything inherently wrong with it. I give my Husband several options and let him choose my hair color whenever I change it, because it doesn't matter to me enough to not care about his opinion. And people d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 12:54 AM
5

I'm aware. Things could have ended very badly for me. I just got extremely lucky in not having to settle. I wouldn't advise other women to follow in my footsteps, but I happened to hit the jackpot. RPW are made, not born. It was Husband who made me, and if he left I would without a doubt be one of the many alpha widows out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:35 PM
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I can hardly take other men seriously because of this. I am always thinking in my head "what a joke" as harsh as it sounds, and writing this while admitting it makes me feel sort of bad that my brain does turn to this automatically. Honestly I don't think you should feel bad about that at all. I see it as lucky more than anything. It's ideal that you would feel that way about your SO. I'm the same and personally I'm glad I have that gut reaction, because no offense to OP but that sounds like a r…
/r/RedPillWomen20/02/15 10:24 PM
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I've heard this happening to soooooooo many women, so I know the concern is perfectly reasonable. The whole "I really miss having awesome sex and my husband doesn't really turn me on, but he's my best friend and I love him." Next thing you know she's hopping on the first dick she sees as badass enough. When the BPers say it shouldn't matter if she's done crazy stuff in bed with other dudes but won't with you... Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on that. By the same token just because a woman has slept …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:12 PM
14

Husband would disagree. Also, "basic?" F'real?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:03 PM
9

True that. I have NO problem with being the butt of a joke if that joke is actually funny. Otherwise it's just awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:14 PM
-1

Nah, you just gotta know how to reddit. The time you're sitting there posting maybe not, but you can be way more productive with things you can learn. The Internet is for more than just cat photos, porn, and arguing!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:11 PM
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Yeah, RPW or not I don't think personally I could be happy in a marriage unless I had experienced what's out there. I would be way too curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:05 PM
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This is something I've witnessed firsthand time and time again. But surely you've got to have something other than "she'll probably think you're subpar." Sleeping with a lot of men doesn't necessarily mean she's already done better and will tire of you. If this is the main reason sluts are to be avoided for commitment then my count shouldn't matter at all. And I mean, it doesn't, because the only person I care about taking issue is Husband and he doesn't. But I'm still curious. It's just too big…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:04 PM
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Yeah. Every time I've been quoted there I've been like "really? Are you fucking kidding me? If you would look two comments up the chain you would see that you are completely and utterly misrepresenting the point I was making." Ugh. When people make fun of this vague idea they have of RP I can just kind of roll my eyes and move on... But when you're taking exact quotes by people that are completely innocuous and pretending they're worthy of a laugh it becomes like junior high.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 08:55 PM
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Yeah. If they wanted to find some people posting crazy shit they could do it. Someone linked a thread where a girl was asking about how to make her wardrobe more sexy so people could mock... Wanting to look nice for your boyfriend? Really???
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 08:51 PM
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Hahahaha. Oh man. Good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 08:49 PM
3

Its easier for women to get back in the game and they have more emotional and social safety nets at their disposal on top of the fact that they aren't actually scorned,vilified or mocked for expressing themselves. Depression and suicides (not the attention-seeking type) is higher in men, so i've been told. You are completely correct on all counts here. I won't contest that. As far as the risk I took, I owned a condo and almost had to file for bankruptcy when I moved out and couldn't find a buyer…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 08:48 PM
1

Sorry for laughing at your childhood trauma. I just couldn't help it with that term.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:31 PM
1

No, hand on waist can be super sexy and I was highly uncomfortable when men I wasn't attracted to tried to do it. Hover hand just kind of made me laugh. I would either point it out and say they could actually touch me if they wanted, or pretend not to notice and somehow move away if I wasn't into it. Still not sure if a more blunt approach with rejection would have been better, but I always preferred to be as gentle as possible about it without sending mixed signals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:30 PM
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This is why I find it super dumb when women who are banned from RPW start posting in TBP. Even if I were banned from RPW it's not worth my time to go over to a sub that was created just to make fun of people who are trying to live their own lives. I subbed there because I've been quoted out of context a few times or had my words completely misconstrued, and while I don't post anything I guess I still have a masochistic urge to check. Some of what gets posted to be made fun of is a reallllll stre…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:25 PM
2

It depends on who you're asking - someone who only recently discovered TRP or someone who has already absorbed the behaviors applicable to their lives. Not every man knows how to keep a woman interested. It's not even about being high or low value. Men, either through biology or how they are raised, often don't know how to express themselves, get what they want from a relationship, or make their partners feel both cared for and attracted. If you are new to this and learning, then yeah, you're pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:28 PM
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Women are never hurt or rejected? My risk when moving in with Husband was far greater than his. I went through my entire savings and battled legal issues so I could support him while he finished school, with no concrete guarantee that he would stick around after I did so. I had to earn him with my actions and prove I was worth committing to. If men want women who are worthy they are going to have to make their commitment something that is earned instead of being the male version of sluts and thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:39 PM
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Seriously, who the hell proposes when they aren't sure the other person will say yes? A friend of a friend was proposed to when they had never discussed marriage previously, she said she wasn't sure, but he immediately started telling people they were engaged so she just sort of went along with it. Ended up divorcing not even a year later. Proposal without discussing marriage beforehand and getting a clear sign that you both want it: not even once.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:17 PM
1

Ew, I hate hugs. I refuse to believe hugs can be legitimately sexy. Bodies close together like that is reminiscent of "lovemaking," not crazy hot sex. It's like trying to cuddle your way into someone's pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:13 PM
1

Stealth molest. Bahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:10 PM
3

There is no sexual element to hugging unless the dude is rubbing his boner against you or makes a comment about your boobs feeling nice pressed against him (happened to me, creepy as fuck). Also, never hug a man in pajama pants. Just don't. Unless you want things to be sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:08 PM
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Its just seldom made explicit on the woman's part: Men pursue, initiates & propose. Men propose because they are the gatekeepers of commitment. A woman says when she's ready to get married but she has to wait until the man decides he's ready. He's the rate limiting factor on how the relationship proceeds. It would have been completely inappropriate for me to propose to Husband. He knew i wanted to get married, but to propose to him would only have added pressure to him to get engaged before he w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:48 PM
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Women can prove themselves to men no more or less than men can to women. Whether a man will accept a woman who does not prove herself adequately is another story. Men seem more likely to put up with crap from women that they shouldn't and then later wonder where it went wrong. Women are capable of proving themselves (as much as anyone can, which isn't 100% for anyone), but are likely to not be required to. Meanwhile women have been taught that they shouldn't accept a man who won't marry them or …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 12:41 PM
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Pretty sure that's what telling someone you love them means for anyone. That isn't a dude thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:38 AM
2

YESSSSSS, literally just now watched the latest episode. I would hang with those bitches. Lena Dunham just makes me gag, in just about every way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:04 AM
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Yeah, I mean even if you marry the most awesome woman on the planet, sex drives are still going to fluctuate throughout both of your lives. That's just the reality of living with another human. But if you do a thorough job of testing her out before making a lifelong commitment you shouldn't have to worry about having sex only every six months for the rest of your life. Obviously my bias is going to show quite heavily since I am married myself, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 11:06 PM
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How so? I have a rich daddy, but Husband and I on our own were fairly poor until recently. Not sure what that has to do with not believing in going to debt over a wedding, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 07:37 PM
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I'm not saying the percentage of women who are that way is super small, I'm just saying women who will keep having sex with you and not treat you like crap aren't really unicorns. They definitely exist, and I don't think they're as rare as many people make it seem, unless I live in magical fantasy land where a good portion of women don't become shrews after marriage. I think this also has something to do with men interpreting "marriage takes work" as "you have to keep trying to appease your wife…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 04:41 PM
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Practical gifts are way better. Especially because you have to know and pay attention to your partner to figure out what to get. Any schmuck can pick up some flowers or lingerie. Though I am that schmuck who just wears something sexy and cooks. Haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 02:26 PM
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Yeah, the going into debt over all those things gets me. Husband and I have been to a lot of weddings since we've been married and the amount of them that were ALL about the bride is truly sickening. I mean even to the point of having a fire and brimstone ceremony talking about how non-christians are going to hell when the groom is a fucking atheist. So now this couple is starting their married life together in debt so the bride could have her fancy status symbol ring and her fancy status symbol…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 02:22 PM
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Do you honestly think all marriages are like that and there is NO WAY to predict how a woman will act once married? So many guys marry obviously nutty women and ignore the mountain of red flags only to become confused when they marry and she becomes more of a psycho bitch than she was already.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 02:13 PM
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This wouldn't be a problem if you married someone who is not useless, expensive, or finicky, and enjoys frequent sex. It's not like that's incredibly rare. If you're getting more sex than you would be capable of getting if single and your wife either has a job or affords you more free time by keeping you from having to do housework it is still a net benefit. Not saying everyone should get married, but stating that no one should is equally dumb IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 03:50 AM
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That doesn't say anything about needing to do without any outside validation. Of course our entire sense of self shouldn't be hung up on what someone else thinks of us. That doesn't mean there is anything admirable about being okay with your SO never displaying any sign that they like you as a person and not just a sex toy. Showing non-sexual affection is a form of validation. Saying "I love you" is a form of validation. I'm just saying these are completely normal and reasonable expectations to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 03:40 AM
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Yes. I don't think that no fault divorce should be a thing. Perhaps people would be more willing to work it out if they knew they couldn't negate the contract just because they feel like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 03:20 AM
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Adults develop serious mental health issues as a result of not receiving validation as well. That's human, not childish. I really am curious if you've ever been in a LTR. Would or do you refuse to tell your SO you love her? If she asked how you feel about her would you treat it like a shit test and tell her she's being immature and you should never have to give any indication that you care about her? Would you find it acceptable or preferable if a partner never told you she cares for you, finds …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 03:08 AM
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Probably a young person thing. Everyone my age who has a SO was posting what they got. I admittedly posted what I got, partly because Husband built it and is very talented and likes people to see his work. But also because there is somewhat of an insecure desire to show other people that my Husband loves me\that I am worth loving and have a valuable partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 02:42 AM
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Yeah, I dunno if I'm really sheltered or come from a family of freaks and only have freaks for friends, but many of these stereotypes are things I just don't see. I don't personally know any women who did absolutely nothing for their SOs for VDay unless they mutually decided not to celebrate it at all. Granted that doesn't always involve gifts, but I think a pretty clear explanation for that is that men are often harder to shop for and wouldn't particularly appreciate flowers or trinkets. Gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 02:26 AM
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I know hardly any women who would buy their men flowers, which probably has something to do with the fact that I don't know any men who would particularly like to receive flowers. Try to going to a sex shop around VDay. If you wait too long the lingerie section will have already been picked through. In general, women like shows of romance and men like sex. Of course you won't see them both in line getting each other the same gifts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 02:20 AM
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The need for validation is not a shit test. Most men need validation as well. If you never need any validation from your romantic partners you are incredibly strange. Humans crave validation because we are social animals. The need for teamwork and social groups is in our DNA. Never receiving any validation can cause serious mental health issues for humans. The "why" is because we evolved this way, and it is a universal human experience. You may think that flowers are a stupid requirement to rece…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 02:10 AM
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We don't celebrate steak and a bj day. Valentine's Day already includes those things, except that he usually chooses a meal that isn't steak. For women who are so selfish they don't do anything for their partners on VDay I doubt they're celebrating steak and a bj day either. If you're a decent partner making him his favorite dinner and giving BJs should already part of your normal repertoire.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 01:56 AM
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Are you in a LTR, and if not have you ever been? This seems like a silly question. We're not talking about validation from the world at large, here. We are talking getting validation from the person you care for the most out of everyone else on the planet. You are definitely an outlier if you think no one should ever need to receive signs of affection and being wanted by their intimate partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 10:30 PM
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Exactly. After you've been together for years what are you going to do as a grown woman with a large collection of stuffed animals? In theory I would like one of those giant teddy bears, but I'm pretty sure Husband would only allow it to stay in our bedroom over his cold, dead body. And I can't blame him in the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 10:25 PM
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Hive mentality, sure, maybe this is an example of that. Childish? I don't think this situation illustrates that at all. Do you really think it's childish to want shows of affection from your SO? My Husband likes it when I surprise him with candy because it shows I think about him when he's not around and care for his happiness. Is that childish? I certainly don't think so. Like I said, for myself and many other couples Valentine's Day is a mutual celebration. I make Husband breakfast in bed and …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 10:18 PM
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I think that saying we want to see how much money you're willing to waste is inaccurate, at least for the majority of women. Personally I like flowers for two reasons: they look/smell nice, and it's a token that Husband was thinking of me that will not end up adding clutter. If he buys me gifts every time he's thinking of me and wants to do something nice I end up with a bunch of trinkets all over the place that end up cluttering up the house. Flowers are pretty and nice to look at for a week, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 06:09 PM
1

It annoys me that I'm not like this. We can have an argument or he does something to make me mad, but as soon as I look at him I'm like "dat ass tho." He uses it to his advantage a lot. The vast majority of people I've met feel the same way you do about it though, and that goes for both men and women, though men admittedly to a lesser degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 01:43 PM
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Husband and I are the exact opposite of this, and it definitely makes me feel for men in relationships like what you described, because I do agree that is the majority. He's had a bad day? Sex is the last thing on his mind, and I'm almost guaranteed to be shot down if I try to initiate. I've even gotten the "can't we just cuddle?" line from him. Haha. Meanwhile, when I'm in a bad mood is when I want sex most, but he won't sex me when I'm grumpy. Refuses. Sex would improve my mood, but he can't g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 01:39 PM
1

Completely agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 01:52 AM
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You seem to think everything within my marriage has been sunshine and roses. We remodeled a trailer together when we very first moved in together as a similar test. Even with all the stress we never even considered it wasn't working out. We never let it get between us and grew closer because of the experience. Shortly after we began dating I was hospitalized and we thought I had an illness that would cause him to have to take care of me in more ways than he should have to as I get older, yet he …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:36 PM
2

This is likely true, at least in the majority of cases. I just think it's stupid to say you can never be in a relationship with a man who you strongly desire sexually because all men you would desire will necessarily not want a relationship because he doesn't have to be in one to get sex. It's an absurd implication and quite clearly false.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:15 PM
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Do you really think the only men who are capable of inspiring a fiery passion within women are the players who don't want to settle down because they don't have to? That doesn't even make sense. There are far too many couples out there who are stable and monogamous but still have active sex lives with a lot of passion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:04 AM
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I don't usually plan ahead what I want to do for my daily nice things unless I want to do something big. It's just something I trained myself to get into the habit of thinking about on a regular basis. I still just do things as I think of them, as in I don't set any reminders for myself or anything like that, but I did have to teach myself to think of it more frequently. So if I wake up before he does for some reason other than being in excruciating pain (which is admittedly rare!) my next thoug…
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/15 11:38 PM
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I am naturally "hypergamous," (as is pretty much everyone, unless they've got issues) because I wanted the best partner I could get. That's all that really means. I got him. I could not realistically upgrade now, and I sure as hell won't be able to as I get older. It isn't something I think about that much or feel I need to try to keep in check, because I didn't settle. Dread game doesn't work on me if done overtly or heavily, but I'm sure my Husband has done mild forms of it as some sort of mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 10:58 PM
2

Is there some reason you're calling him a RPer, or are you just saying that men who abuse women are automatically RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 10:37 PM
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No. Porn doesn't rely on a personal, emotional connection with the characters. That usually doesn't exist in the "plot," or if it does, it is fast forwarded. Porn doesn't need to show men or women as deeply flawed individuals who need mental help because of the kind of sex they enjoy. Porn doesn't tell you what to think about people who are into kink. I also don't think that porn does much of anything to further stigmatize the fetish community. Porn takes no moral or emotional stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 09:45 PM
3

No. I like men who look manly and women who look womanly, and anything in between just doesn't do it for me sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 08:03 PM
3

Story of my life right here. A few things that have helped me/us that I had to learn the hard way: be really clear about what's going on instead of trying to tough through or hope he doesn't notice. "Honey, I'm finishing the dishes but I'm really not feeling well at all and think I'm going to be out of commission the rest of the day after doing this." Or if you wake up not feeling well, just let him know where you're at physically so he kind of has an idea what to expect. stay flexible/have plen…
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/15 07:58 PM
2

Who gives a shit? I haven't heard of a single man who cared whatsoever about the book or movie except complaining about being expected to see it with their SOs. What you should be concerned about if you're worried about what men will expect of you is porn. Men don't read romance novels. They watch porn. And they've been seeing MUCH worse than that stupid book for a very long time. Most men would probably already love for you to do all those things you don't want to do. They just aren't admitting…
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/15 07:13 PM
1

If you still don't understand my issue with the book and how that has nothing to do with "singling out and berating women" then there's really nothing more to discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 07:07 PM
1

I'm not saying it's bad or it's not right for anyone, but I don't think you can really draw much of a parallel between poly relationships and cheating. if you're into kink there is probably more reason or at least room for it. but your average joe or jane is probably going to cheat for reasons other than one romantic connection not being enough for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 05:17 AM
1

Okay. There's the one exception for people who like them: people who like them because they're funny. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 03:33 AM
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I don't trust any "evidence" on this subject to be particularly substantial. How could they prove this? Just do surveys? And from that point, how would researchers know why women cheated? It would have to be based on their word, which is probably almost never going to be "someone hotter came along."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 03:16 AM
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There's a huge difference between cheating and having an affair, though. Hypothetically, Husband cheats on me one night and that's terrible, but nothing compared to a full blown affair where he's spending his time with another woman and telling her he loves her. Polyamory is about more than just sex. It's about multiple intimate relationships, which I think would be a huge struggle for most people. Cheating is less frequently about trying to get an intimate emotional connection with someone besi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 03:12 AM
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Husband had very little sexual experience before me and I see it as my wifely duty to give him a "colorful" sex life. 99% of the time I prefer to get the job done myself, but we have an agreement. If another person is coming in, we are both going to be there for it. I'm not comfortable with him having sex with another woman while I'm at home on the couch or whatever, and he's not comfortable with me having sex with someone else when he can't at least watch (this whole thing only applies to women…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 01:44 AM
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Wowwww, in her 30's and NEVER given one? I want that lady to do an AMA. I don't even understand how that happens.
/r/RedPillWomen14/02/15 01:24 AM
1

Got it. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 11:42 PM
1

The second one, I think. It's been awhile since I've tried. Is there a good mobile option?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 11:17 PM
1

But I'm sure he has more to tell :) haha. My point exactly! I guess I kind of assume that the people who are more hesitant to share personal details probably won't become less hesitant in an AMA.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 11:07 PM
3

I know, but they're clearly crazy. I just don't get why it's "awkward" for a woman to be pro-male.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 10:54 PM
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Nope nope nope, move on. If you aren't attracted to him after 10 dates you probably won't ever be. IMO it's better if he's lacking a little bit in some area of personality than lacking in the bedroom department. If he talks through the movie and eats popcorn with his mouth open you can just go to the movies with your friends. If he doesn't like discussing your love of underwater basket weaving you can find friends who do. What you can't do is find someone else to have sex with when you're in a r…
/r/RedPillWomen13/02/15 10:51 PM
1

I can never seem to get it to work on mobile and I'm rarely at my actual laptop, but I'll do that next time. I forget it's even a thing since I'm almost always on my phone when I'm here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 10:46 PM
5

Why? Men are awesome. Why would anyone not be pro-male?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 10:44 PM
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It just stems from the exact same human emotions that brought us capitalism in the first place. There's nothing inherently wrong with it. I think "hypergamy" is similar to "pedophile" in that, when used, it seems to be implying negative action. By technical definition a pedophile is just someone who is sexually attracted to children. One can be a pedophile and never harm a child in any way for their entire lives. A woman who wants the best partner she can get is hypergamous by definition, but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 10:43 PM
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I briefly considered that maybe the sort of relationship I desire has something to do with being abused for half my life, but I really don't think it does, at least not in a negative, vicious cycle way. A lot of this is just socializing for me. It's talking to other people about things I think that I would not admit to thinking around most people in person. And probably some soapbox and attempts to justify thrown in.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 10:34 PM
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YOU. And /u/GridReXX, /u/nomdplume and /u/wazzup987 I dunno, I'm just listing people whose usernames I can remember off the top of my head and seem interesting. I would probably listen to an audio AMA from just about anyone in here because I have a weird fascination with what people are like outside of the space where I "know" them. Hearing the sound of someone's voice for the first time is intensely exciting for me. Not sexually, but like little kid in Disneyland excited.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 10:25 PM
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Exactly. That's why I say the book is for people who don't know better. If they know anything about BDSM they should know it's a shit book for more than just the shitty writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 06:12 PM
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I'm glad someone agrees. I was starting to think I was on crazy pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 06:07 PM
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Oh hell no. Good for you being clear that that's not an option. He's probably going to keep trying, though. I agree with everyone else - cut all ties.
/r/RedPillWomen13/02/15 05:56 AM
1

No kidding. My Husband is 6' and 150, I can't imagine if he were 10 lbs lighter. He would look like he could be carried away on a breeze!
/r/RedPillWomen13/02/15 05:51 AM
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I don't lose respect for women who like porn and erotica any more than I would lose respect for a man who does. My issue is with this book specifically. It is about delving into this world and enjoying the "fun" of it while still holding it at a distance and allowing yourself to still see the characters as broken things that need to be fixed. It also gives a really unhealthy image of a D/s relationship, which does a disservice to the entire community and anyone genuinely looking to explore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 05:24 AM
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I'm not sure what you mean by "weapon." I gag at people who enjoy the books because they are essentially about a "damaged" man who is into BDSM because he has mommy issues or whatever, and he needs a sweet girl to "save" him. I just find it gross and offensive and if someone is actually into BDSM or knows anything about it I don't at all understand how they could possibly enjoy the books and not be anything but irritated by them. Anyone who likes them instantly loses a portion of their credibili…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:41 AM
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The book is written for naive housewives who have been doing it missionary for the past fifteen years and think road head is sooooo naughty. Everyone I know who likes it is a middle aged woman who stopped having any form of interesting sex years ago. For people who barely even knew that kink was a thing that exists I'm sure it can be eye-opening and exciting. Women enjoy novelty too. But I don't know anyone who's had a remotely interesting sex life and still liked this book. It's boring, unless …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 01:09 AM
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How would you define someone being on a pedestal? What sort of thoughts and actions toward your SO qualify as you putting them on a pedestal? I think that's an important distinction. In a new relationship that is in the infatuation stage I can see this being a big problem, but when you've been together for years and you know the other person's quirks and flaws well but they don't bother you since their good qualities far outweigh the bad ones... Does that still count? I mean I tend to think of i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:19 PM
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I'm not sure about other people, but for me putting me on a pedestal makes me uncomfortable and I tend to act poorly. I want to be called out on my BS. I don't want to be seen as someone who can do no wrong. I've never had a whole lot of internal motivation. Everything I care about and enjoy is mostly about serving other people. I don't actually like to cook, baking pies is a huge pain in the ass, but I do it because it allows me to share with others. If I were by myself I would eat cereal or ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:03 PM
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I'm not even kidding, I can't stop laughing every time I think about that. Oh god, my sides. I don't think there's an alpha response to that, seeing as being desperate enough for approval to sink that level is about as far from alpha as you can get in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:49 PM
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True. I think it's more of a last ditch effort to try to salvage a relationship that is about to end anyway. There's no reason for a man to behave to this extreme in a committed relationship unless he's dating a terrible bitch who doesn't value him and tries to put him down, or he feels the relationship is about to end and he wants to give it one last shot. Now if we're talking reeling in a FWB situation or a booty call you want to keep around, sure, maybe some of this wouldn't be so outlandish.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:43 PM
1

I disagree. I think most men are overall decent people. Feminism isn't necessary to "do the right thing" any more than Jesus Christ is necessary to be a good person with strong morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:33 PM
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That isn't what I was saying at all. I have natural "dread" that I do not use purposefully at all, it's just there because I'm a young and attractive woman. There is no way to mitigate that aside from continually assuring Husband that he's the only man I'll be going home with. Husband's dread is not something he does purposefully with the intention of gaming me. It is a natural effect of being attractive, working out, and having a lucrative career. Just him starting to work out more is part of d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:27 PM
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LGBTQ people are not going to disappear off the face of the earth. More will be born every day. They don't need to procreate themselves to create more of them. Straight people will keep creating more. I don't really understand what you mean by them not getting more followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 03:12 PM
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That part is legitimately hilarious. Sounds like one of those things that would later qualify as one of your most embarrassing moments.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:25 PM
2

Exactly. That's just demonstrating indicators of low moral fiber. Showing you aren't afraid to move on: okay. Showing you would have no qualms about cheating: not a good move at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:23 PM
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I don't think most people would advocate this behavior, from men or women. Women have the benefit of an automatic passive dread. If your girl is even remotely attractive she's going to have options other than you. She'll get hit on in public, sometimes possibly even in front of you. But it's nothing she's doing. That's just what happens when you're a woman with youth and even a small amount of beauty. If she's creating dating profiles while in a committed relationship she should be kicked to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:16 PM
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Even if it were to change the LGBTQ community has a large issue because the group can't create more followers. wait, what? Followers? You mean other gay people? You know that 99% of LGBTQ people have straight parents, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:00 PM
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If you combine them together isn't that just egalitarianism?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 01:48 PM
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Most men already don't identify as feminists or "believe in feminism." I'm not worried.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 01:47 PM
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Ehh. I just don't care who other people fuck, and kinda think it's lame when other people do (talking "people" at large and not specific individuals, as of course it isn't lame to care about who your girlfriend has fucked before you).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 10:00 PM
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I think we are talking about different places. I'm not sure what countries you're referring to, but I meant impoverished nations. If most of your people don't have access to clean water and there are warlords stealing children it doesn't matter how much education girls get. Educating girls wouldn't solve anything in the places I'm talking about. It doesn't matter if more women are educated enough to take jobs when there are no jobs to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 09:58 PM
1

I don't have to support modern feminism because I already have those choices available and I've made mine. Modern feminism has zip to offer me. If feminism suddenly disappeared it's not like we would magically go back to women as property.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 09:30 PM
1

Basically when it comes down to it there are too many things mainstream feminists do or are trying to support that I don't agree with. I would honestly prefer not to label myself as anything at all because I really hate the thought of anyone else speaking for my beliefs or giving someone this neat little packaged idea of what I stand for (which in the case of feminism would encompass many ideas I do not support in the first place, so it would give people an extremely inaccurate view of my priori…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:46 PM
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it offers no actionable advice and might as well be 'don't change anything about yourself in an attempt to increase attraction.' this is exactly what I was going to say. "Just be yourself" in the context of actual advice might as well be a string of random words. It's right up there on the list of tired cliches people like to say that are actually bad advice or essentially worthless: always follow your heart, everything happens for a reason, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:23 PM
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Even in the US many women are still treated poorly despite all the progress we've made, simply because of their gender Women being treated poorly in the US solely because of their gender are incidents not indicative of our overall culture. Men are also treated poorly just because of their gender. Gays are still beaten to death in the US. We have a sizable homeless population, the great majority of whom are male. The plight of women in the first world is pretty low on my priority list. Feminism b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:17 PM
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Um... I asked my Husband to make his own dinner last night?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:24 PM
2

When looking at all the girls I've ever known there are plenty of hot women who are also seemingly nice people that don't appear insane (using "insane" figuratively). I don't think the "hot women are all crazy" idea is true, but there's really no way to figure up what percentage of hot women are wife material in behavior. However, I'm looking back at women I've dated. Even those who seemed like those nice girls I mentioned above, as soon as a romantic or physical aspect became involved they star…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:19 PM
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I just don't think anyone should choose partners based on what's best for the betterment of society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:08 PM
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Yeah, it's pretty awesome when feminists tell me how poorly I'm treated by society as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:04 PM
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"We" is women in the first world. And I feel that the term is already no longer necessary. You don't have to be a feminist to support the rights of women in developing or impoverished nations. In most places where women are oppressed, poverty and lack of safety for all citizens are things that are far more important and pressing to me than sexism there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:02 PM
2

I can be happy without being a feminist. Why won't you see that? There are no causes in the first world that feminism is fighting for that I want to be a part of at all. I am happy without it, and I either don't care about or disagree with everything it's trying to do in my country. Why on earth would I possibly call myself a feminist or participate in feminism at all? It adds nothing to my life. This is borderline hilarious. Why are you upset by someone not being a feminist? The majority of wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 12:58 PM
2

I don't really call myself anything. I just do like I did here, if I'm talking about my ex-girlfriend I'll say ex-girlfriend and usually people understand it in that context, and I'll only say I'm bisexual if asked to clarify. Hardly anyone ever questions it though. It isn't something that comes up frequently, and I never saw a reason to just announce it explicitly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 02:17 AM
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I dunno, nobody's bitched to me about domestic violence lately so I guess I'm just really not factoring that into the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 02:06 AM
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I was talking more along the lines of naggy behaviour and shit tests, for lack of a better term. Haha, ohhh yeah, that I would definitely say is typical ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 02:05 AM
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It's been stolen by far too many girls who really just mean that they'll make out with another girl if they're drunk enough. When I say I'm bisexual I find that that is what is assumed: pretty much straight girl who fools around with women sometimes, rather than "can have meaningful romantic relationships with either gender."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 02:04 AM
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There's a middle ground between "nice guy" and "asshole." I find it's usually the "nice guys" who can't attract women that complain about how women should have to fuck them instead of Johnny Football.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 12:40 AM
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I'm not going to Saudi Arabia and telling the women there they don't need feminism. We don't need it in the US. There is no reason for me to identify as a feminist. I can support human rights in other countries without being a feminist. In most of those countries sexism is not the main issue. Classism is often the most damaging aspect to the majority of people. Being female is often just another problem not added by sexism, but by biology. In war-ravaged communities where people are starving and…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 10:55 PM
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My life satisfaction has greatly increased since I stopped having to pull most of the financial weight. I don't know that my marital satisfaction changed very much, though one certainly does affect the other. I rate overall satisfaction under the premise that a 10 does not exist. There's always room for improvement, in any relationship, no matter how great it is. His satisfaction has probably increased, because I can do more things for him now that I'm not working as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 10:50 PM
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Yes, I'm bisexual. Sorry, I thought that would be clear. I try to avoid using that label because I don't like it, so I just kind of hope the context will make it clear without an announcement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 10:46 PM
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Right. We should completely ignore our biology and only fuck "nice guys" who we aren't actually attracted to. You cannot negotiate attraction. You can't talk a vagina into not wanting something any more than you talk a boner out of happening for a crazy chick if she's still hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 10:45 PM
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Beginning of the relationship, 2.5:1, with me earning more. Currently it's 4:1 with him earning more. Marital satisfaction is an 8 or 9, depending on the day. I'm maybe a 7.5 or 8 on the RP scale. I'm curious if there's a point you're trying to make with this, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 10:34 PM
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VERBAL violence?! Holy shit, we're calling that a thing now? It would be hilarious if it weren't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 10:17 PM
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I am not on your team or any woman's team just because we have vaginas. Just because I was born a woman doesn't mean I should be obligated to fit some mold that you've decided all good women should fit. Do you not see the hypocrisy there? You want to take away women's choices. Women's choices are great, but only if they make the choice you want them to. God forbid a woman be happy living the life she wants to live without being a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 10:13 PM
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I don't believe in slavery either, but you won't hear me calling myself an abolitionist. Slavery is now illegal. The abolitionists won. Women have equal rights and opportunities to men. Feminism won.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 10:05 PM
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Sorry if this is too personal, but which of the behaviors are typical for you and the people you know? Because some of it sounds like two people fighting with some low blows here and there and obviously neither party is good at conflict resolution, which is how the men end up on MRP in the first place. Threatening divorce is 10000% off the table in my relationship, but everyone has different lines and I can see those threats getting thrown around without either party really being that mean in ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 10:03 PM
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I was referring to relationships I've had with women where the mental gymnastics of post rationalization were astounding, lying about partner count, shit testing, basically just behaving in an emotionally unstable way. These things show in same sex relationships as well, and I was pretty RP with women before I had ever heard of it so I didn't really closely examine the dynamics at the time. It was just "oh, my girlfriend is acting crazy again."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 09:57 PM
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Have you actually read anything that anyone from RPW has said, or were your eyes too cloudy from all those tears over witnessing such "internalized misogyny?" We HAVE equal rights and equal treatment under the law. It's already there. I'm not trying to give my rights back to the state and say I don't want them anymore. Feminism does not have the monopoly on belief in equal rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 05:50 PM
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I hope I didn't come across as saying I think all of these women have mental issues. It's also possible to have mental disorders without treating your partner like crap. It's just that to me it appears that men with mentally ill wives or girlfriends are overrepresented in MRP compared to the general population. And, of course, maybe these men have issues too and continually provoked trying to get a response. There's just no way to verify. But it is shocking to me to hear some of the behaviors di…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 09:40 PM
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I have no doubts that this happens, as it is very much human nature to not notice one's own faults or try to shirk responsibility for your actions. But I also don't really believe that most of these posts are outright lies, and it would have to be completely made up to not be insane because even if it was exaggerated it would STILL be nuts. If that is how you think women are you must have known a lot of mentally ill women. I can recognize that when I see it. There's a difference between a fiery …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 09:27 PM
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I agree to a certain point. I see a lot of men and women talking about how crazy and terrible their exes or current partners were/are as a way to avoid taking responsibility for their own failings. However, there is no "legitimate problem" that excuses becoming physically violent with your spouse and making threats of ruining the other's life. That is not the behavior of a normal person with a properly functioning brain. Post-rationalization, solipsism, sure, I accept those as normal behavior. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 09:24 PM
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Very true. I don't doubt that I've been with women who would've acted that way if allowed, but my instinctive response to tantrums is to refuse to respond in kind or escalate. Sounds like most of the people who need help are the sort who previously let women walk all over them, which sort of supports the theory that it's the women they choose. The men who refuse to put up with those women end up with higher quality ones because they won't accept less. The men who need help now put up with too mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 03:55 PM
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It's a figure of speech ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 03:10 PM
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Don't negotiate with terrorists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 02:41 PM
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It seems like most of the RP guys who are married or in relationships have wives and girlfriends with borderline personality disorder. I have rarely heard of such incredibly appalling behavior as I've seen discussed in TRP and MRP. I can judge those dudes for sticking around, but I would be full of crap if I said I hadn't ever put up with similar things from a woman without kicking her to the curb immediately. I'm a pretty normal damn person. I wouldn't dream of throwing things at my Husband or …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 02:37 PM
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Should I just start using more makeup and show him it isn't that bad...? What? Heavens no! You take from here what works but anything your SO doesn't like can be thrown in the garbage. It's about pleasing him, not pleasing the masses. It is also said a lot in here not to have crazy colored hair or tattoos, but Husband likes my hair in pastels and bright reds so I'm not going to dye it brown just because most other men would prefer it that way. Don't worry about wearing makeup around him, and whe…
/r/RedPillWomen09/02/15 01:29 PM
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Struggling not to be "that guy" by pointing out these don't technically apply as fetishes, but here I am. Men: sad faces. Stern voices. Instilling fear. Women: tattoos. Inexperience. Submission. Crying. Both: looking sick/pale. Thinness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 01:13 PM
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Haha, wow, thank you :D
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 06:49 AM
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Maybe I just have a habit of rooting for the underdog.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 06:20 AM
1

Ha. I'm very attractive to a niche market, but likely don't rank much above "not ugly" for people who aren't into that. But your point just goes to show that it's important for women to find the right ratio of AF to BB in the same man, much like men have to find the Madonna/whore balance. Thank you for the pleasant exchange :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 04:29 AM
1

I agree with the blessing and curse bit. My marriage is more satisfying overall for the both of us, and with some of the more negative bits I already knew they existed and RP just gave more specific words for them. But it was certainly much nicer to believe in the fairytale that we could both "just be ourselves (as in, be complacent)" than the far more difficult path of knowing that my Husband isn't sexually attracted to my intelligence enough to overcome 20 extra pounds and constant wearing of …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 03:59 AM
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Haha. I'm definitely not a spokesperson, so don't quote me since I am likely much more liberal in my definition than some ;-P
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 03:19 AM
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I think consistently hearing that from other men is slowly chipping away at the pain of it for me, because while Husband isn't the sort to lie to avoid hurting my feelings, there is still the sense that he has to say he would never consider leaving me for a nicer pair of tits. So thanks for the input. It is frustrating beyond words to have emotional reactions that you are well aware are stupid but just can't make them go away. Men and women are absolutely both lied to when it comes to what the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 03:16 AM
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There's nothing inherently wrong with getting married earlier and there's nothing inherently wrong with waiting until you're older. There are risks to either one of those options, and there's still a risk if you take the middle ground. Interpersonal relationships are never absolutely guaranteed. I just don't think age is a very good metric to measure when is the best time to get married. I also said I was going to wait until I was 27 to get married, but I met my Husband at 22 and decided that ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 03:08 AM
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Great post, and I absolutely agree. I've gotten pretty irritated at this point about the nature of debates here and being expected to answer for every part of TRP. Thing is, there's a lot of useful information there. In order to be able to use the helpful bits there is no requirement to believe that every single aspect is the absolute truth, or even care.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 03:00 AM
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Okay, reading through this gave me some serious déjà vu in some respects. Learning "how to be a red pill woman" was an extremely rocky road for me at first, but the difference in my story is that we were moving from a relationship dynamic that wasn't working well for us, so this was just a different kind of bad and felt worth the continued effort because I knew we needed a change and that wouldn't happen overnight. I sometimes felt isolated or like I wasn't being appreciated. I tried to work thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 02:50 AM
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There's somewhat of a back story, but when it comes down to it the answer is basically just a combination of jealousy and feeling like I'm not doing my job as a wife. Note - the next bit is going to describe my feelings on the matter and I realize they are irrational, so I don't need to be made aware: he thinks those other girls are hotter than me and he would rather be fucking them than me, and I have failed as a spouse because if I were keeping him sexually satisfied he wouldn't ever need to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 02:13 AM
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Lastly, if you don't give your youth to one man, what is the other option? If you sleep around with a bunch of men you will also be alone in your 40s. Really good point. Are you supposed to wait until you're no longer young or attractive to get married because then you can really be sure he's not in it for your beauty? You can spend your youth with one man, or you can spend it with many, or you can spend it all by yourself, and in any of those situations you could still end up alone in your 40s.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 01:21 AM
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I don't get it. If you're too paranoid to get married, just don't get married. Yeah, any dude could leave you, and any woman could leave her husband. You just have to find someone you trust and both be willing to work at it. The only "why should you" is because you want to. If you don't want to get married young or at all, don't. No one is putting a gun to your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 01:15 AM
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I try to keep him updated, but in the past he hasn't seemed to care much unless the update was that we were almost out of savings. I do feel very fortunate that he chooses cell phone and Internet providers to find the cheapest deal so that I don't have to worry about that. Lately he's been looking at cars and I will say "okay, at our current rate we could buy that next month" or "we won't be in a position to afford that for several months" and let him make the final call. I think I'm getting mor…
/r/RedPillWomen07/02/15 03:37 PM
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I am a certified crazy person (bipolar and severe anxiety), and from my experience most doctors don't want to just throw benzos at you. It's often a last resort. You can express your reservations to the doctor and there are many options you can try before benzos. I will tell you, though, that sometimes they can be very helpful as an added tool along with therapy. Talking on the phone is a HUGE trigger for me, to the point that on several occasions I have had to hang up mid-conversation because I…
/r/RedPillWomen07/02/15 02:41 PM
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I actually agree with you quite a bit on that, though I have never heard a single feminist express that view, and have actually heard women shunned for saying we need to value the feminine because feminine and masculine are just more ways to box people in to gender roles. Goes to show that feminism really is a pretty large umbrella term that doesn't necessarily give a lot of information on your specific set of beliefs. Thanks for the thoughtful reply :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 02:25 PM
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This is reddit. I didn't convert to a religion. I'm free to see things I like and employ those in my life and completely ignore the things I don't because who cares, I'm not accountable in real life for anything I say here because at the end of the day no one is asking me about what I look at on the Internet. People often take this stuff WAY too seriously in my opinion. I've gotten some good advice on RPW, none of which being that I need to get in the mindset that I am inferior to men. I have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 02:22 PM
2

I watch porn maybe 2 to 3 times per year. Most of it is unwatchable crap, but I'm extremely picky about what I like and don't like. I absolutely do not think it should be censored as long as all participants have consented to it. Personally I think 18 is too young for most people to understand the repercussions of getting into porn, but then it becomes a question of where to draw the line at adulthood and when people reach full maturity, which is really kind of subjective. I don't care if male p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 02:15 PM
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This is somewhat of a tangent, but I cannot stand video games because I don't enjoy going into virtual battle whatsoever and it's just stressful and I hate it. So I never even think about video games being something I would ever want to have any part in, until a friend of mine introduced me to Portal. I think more puzzle-oriented rather than action-oriented games have a bit of a tough market, because they often do appeal to people who "don't like video games." I'm willing to bet there would be p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 03:53 AM
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Don't even start that bullshit. We've spoken before. You know damn well I don't view women as inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 11:06 PM
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Unfortunately I don't know anything about Australia aside from the general knowledge that Jim Jeffries is from there, so I will just take you at your word about those issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 10:05 PM
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I'm really not sure what kind of people you think I'm around, but I assure you I don't know anyone who has a problem with kids not following gender norms unless it is a religious issue for them - in which case I probably don't pay all that much attention to their views. Many of the discussions had here seem to stem from people having dramatically different experiences and communities. To me it is hard to believe that a majority of, or even close to half of people (admittedly aside from old folks…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 10:00 PM
2

What country are you in if you don't mind my asking? The US is extremely far behind in many ways in regards to how we handle health care overall, and here at least I think both men and women get screwed in different ways. When we are talking medicine, though, I don't think we can really claim sexism considering men and women have inherently different health care needs. Employers here aren't too keen on giving men or women time off to spend with their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 09:39 PM
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I do agree that poverty and wealth disparity is a huge issue in many places. I'm much more keen to discuss how racism and poverty contribute to world issues and what can be done about it. To turn that into a feminist issue doesn't make sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 09:34 PM
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This is a fair point, but to me it's moved beyond being a feminist issue. I think that feminism leaves men and boys behind (and I'm not talking about the crazypants Tumblr feminists) because they also face societal pressures that are not allowed to be discussed unless the issue can be framed in a way that still makes it all about women. So I certainly think your views are reasonable, but I don't think that feminism is what we need to further progress in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 09:32 PM
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"You'll see" is a pretty effective means of ending a conversation seeing as there is no real response I can give, aside from the fact that I know many mothers of both boys and girls who feel the same way I do about modern feminism and want nothing to do with it. The statement really doesn't make sense considering that not all mothers convert to feminism after having children as you imply.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 09:25 PM
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I've never actually heard anyone say that, only other people say that it gets said all the time. In any case, feminism will still not offer some sort of magical protection against criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 09:20 PM
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My issue with this is that the film and gaming industry are not part of public service or charity organizations. They are businesses that count on people wanting to pay for their products. If feminists want these games to be successful they need to buy them and encourage others to buy them. Same with movies. Unfortunately action just captures most people's attention better. An emotionally driven plot with a female lead who is strong in her femininity without masculine fighting traits likely isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 07:35 PM
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So you're saying once I have children I will realize that women are second class citizens and I just never saw it before?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 03:50 PM
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In the US it's called FMLA, and I know plenty of men who have used it as well as stay at home dads with career wives. There are four just in my immediate family alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 03:49 PM
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He's not...? And we have laws against that already. It has nothing to do with feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 03:48 PM
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Do you work? If you're that worried about it why don't you get separate bank accounts so you can control your own money and keep your nose out of his? There's no way he's going to learn how to deal with money if he's never allowed to. He's probably going to make some massive mistakes and sink you further in the hole, but that's likely what it's going to take for him to learn. He has to make his own mistakes and then figure out how to handle them on his own. When you swoop in every time you're ju…
/r/RedPillWomen06/02/15 01:10 PM
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Societal expectations is really vague. Would you mind elaborating? (I feel like this could be read in a really bitchy tone, and since I can't use body language on reddit to assure you, I wanted to say it's a genuine question)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 03:02 AM
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Thanks for explaining. That makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 02:44 AM
1

Yes, I believe the right to breathe air was Obama's first act as president.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 01:42 AM
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So do most people. So why does the feminist label even matter? If you aren't an activist all you're saying is "I agree with most people in the first world on this issue."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 12:54 AM
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I sort of took for granted that most men are way stronger than I am and figured they automatically felt safer in public than I do. I also didn't think about how men receive drastically less validation than women do. For awhile I also thought it was true that men don't connect sex with emotion at all and by default it doesn't mean anything to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 12:44 AM
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Uhh... Because patriarchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 12:39 AM
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Also, I'm really curious because I've yet to hear a compelling answer: where is this oppression happening that isn't the result of actual biology (i.e. I need feminism because I'm scared to walk down dark alleys because a man might get me and he's stronger than I am)?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 12:38 AM
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Gee, thanks feminists of sixty years ago. Now kick back and enjoy your work. No one needs you anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 12:32 AM
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There are feminists in first world countries fighting for the equality of those in third world countries as well Yeah? Then we should be pooling our resources into that rather than bullshit like "stop telling women to smile" and trying to pretend that female privilege doesn't exist. Concern for women in third world countries encompasses maaaaybe 10% of popular feminist narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 12:30 AM
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Huh. Alright then. I just figured some men think dolled up women can be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 12:26 AM
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Exactly. Equal rights and privileges is the default in first world countries. If you feel the need to call yourself a feminist you are obviously fighting for something beyond "equality."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 12:00 AM
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You HAVE the rights and privileges that men do, wtf are you even talking about? And no one ever said you can't have a career. You just probably can't "have it all." If you're working long hours at your job you don't get to raise your own children or spend as much time with your family. That isn't sexism, it's just reality. There are only so many hours in a day. If you want kids and a family it's probably not a good idea to spend your time trying to climb the corporate ladder.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 11:56 PM
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I dunno, this just kinda makes me laugh considering how many men are complete dipshits as well. I'm not too worried about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 11:51 PM
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What do you mean trying to be classy? By not having nudity in the photos...? I really don't get how looking at hot chicks wearing dresses is an affront to masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 11:47 PM
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I don't get it. How is it BP? Because there are no tits? Sometimes me and my Husband look at it. He's posted my pictures to there and to /r/prettygirls. Ha. I don't see how they're really different. Seriously though, how does it have anything to do with RP or BP?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 11:45 PM
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Have you been on deadbedrooms recently? I was surprised that half of the posts I saw were by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 01:52 PM
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Divorce rates are falling. Most women take their husbands' last name and to not do so is not common enough to not earn some strange looks. Alimony is rarely awarded. Not sure what you're talking about with tax breaks, we certainly got them. Things "likely" won't work out? So you really think that MOST marriages are going to fail, in spite of statistics saying otherwise? Not wanting to die alone is a pretty strong factor in decision making on the matter for most people. Your ex-wife won't get hal…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 01:41 PM
5

I think men who don't want those things are overrepresented in that sub. And a lot of the user base seems to be pretty young, so they don't want those things yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 12:55 AM
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So 67% of men are married to women less than four years younger than they are? Am I reading that right? I personally don't find that surprising at all. Most people tend to hang around their own age groups. School is a popular place for people to meet, as is church where they often have groups for people of certain ages. I'm almost surprised I ended up marrying a man my own age since I usually went for much older, but I'm glad it worked out that way because I'm much less likely to be a young-ish …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 12:52 AM
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I don't think it's remotely true that most men never want children or a LTR. A man who truly wants neither of those things and didn't just drop out because either reality or laws are unfair are outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 11:16 PM
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Only strangers and never anyone who mattered to me, but common responses were "well thanks for your concern" and change the subject, "I'm not too worried about it" and change the subject, or (in a joking voice) "well aren't you a Debbie Downer."
/r/RedPillWomen04/02/15 10:15 PM
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The whole "divorce rape" narrative starts to remind me of those doomsday prep people who build underground bunkers because they're just certain of a nuclear holocaust. It seems silly to me that such paranoia would allow someone to forego having a family, a partnership, and someone to care for them in old age. I guess not everyone wants that in the first place, but that's something I'll just never understand. Furthermore, not getting married isn't really going to protect a man financially in most…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 09:30 PM
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Alpha and beta issues are about maintaining attraction and harmony in the relationship and not much else. Of course not everything is an issue of a man being too alpha or too beta. My Husband had problems with snoring and finally went to the doctor to see what was up because I wasn't getting any sleep due to his snoring. That wasn't "beta" of him. It wasn't an alpha behavior either. It was just a regular old marriage issue unrelated to my ability to keep wanting to bang him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 08:54 PM
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It's about giving women equal rights, access to education, ability to live independent of men, and pursue their own education and careers We already HAVE that, so if that's all feminism was about we don't really need it anymore. It's a joke to say that it's just about equality. Equal in value does not mean interchangeable. A man is not better than me by virtue of having a penis, but I don't need to campaign for equality. The western world is already pretty damn equal. Feminism seems to breed a v…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 08:42 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/d1pllh2.jpg LOL Anyway... Libido doesn't necessarily correlate with fidelity. Just because someone has a higher sex drive doesn't mean they're likely to stray. Testosterone affects drive, but as far as I know it doesn't mean that you want to satisfy that drive with many different people as opposed to one. That's why the whole "wired for promiscuity" thing doesn't make much sense to me. (Though on that note let me just say that irritates me when women try to justify being with …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 03:55 PM
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Nah, you gotta always round down to avoid suspicion ;-P
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 03:30 PM
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To me having any ONS is a red flag for a woman, but I guess it depends on the definition you're using. I think this is an interesting topic that came up on RPW recently: how women can appear wholesome and still lock down high value men for LTRs even if they've had a ton of partners. Taylor Swift was used as an example - presumably she's been in a relationship with all her partners, but for the love of God, she must be annoying as hell to go through so many boyfriends by her age. But she still ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 03:20 PM
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What qualifies as a high count or whole bunch of guys? If you're only inferring and never ask you could very well have been with a girl who's had a lot of partners but is an overall decent person and not a crazy nightmare, so you just assumed she hadn't had many. Particularly depending on what you consider "a whole bunch." I'm much more inclined to believe that a woman with 100 prior partners is going to be identifiable as a slut than a woman with 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 01:48 PM
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Yeah, that's the weirdest rule ever to me. Where does it end? By the time a woman says she's had four partners you're going to assume she's really had twelve? That's quite a few partners. It becomes even more ridiculous when the number she tells gets higher. 10 partners versus 30 partners is a pretty huge difference. Depending on your age, your vagina has been busy as hell if you manage to work your way up to 30 partners. 10 is still too high for a lot of guys, but it's possible for someone to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 01:35 PM
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Husband and I like to say "I like you" because in some ways that's more meaningful. You can love someone without liking them. I love my sister but she drives me crazy and I don't think I could handle spending a whole day with her. Husband and I are best friends and love being around each other, so "I like you" reinforces that we enjoy each other's company. Plus I usually say it after he makes a joke and he loves making me laugh.
/r/RedPillWomen04/02/15 01:14 PM
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Oh my god we LOOOOVVVEEEEE that movie!
/r/RedPillWomen04/02/15 12:59 PM
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Fair statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 01:47 AM
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You don't get why there's a difference between violent and non-violent sexual coercion? Seriously? In this example you are still talking about using physical force. Using physical force against someone who is trying to fight back is rape, whether married or not. I didn't contest that. Why do you keep bringing up instances of violence as though it's supposed to convince me of anything? We already agree on that. What I don't understand is how waking your wife with sex is rape unless she wakes up t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 07:52 PM
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The first example is physically violent. While I can't imagine any scenario where it would come to that with me personally, I see that it qualifies as rape and fits into the physical abuse category I mentioned. In the second case, how is she going to "take it?" He could easily just push her off. It's his wife for Christ's sake, is he really too in fear to refuse her? This isn't some random chick who drugged him at a party or made threats if he didn't put out. Now if she slips him a Viagra and ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 06:48 PM
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Like I said, I'm not arguing for revoking those laws. As far as the legal system goes, fine. I just can't imagine any possible scenario where I would think I was actually raped by my Husband. We've done plenty of things that legally qualify as rape, and that is so weird to me to think about. A lot of things that could be rape if it happened from a stranger or someone with whom you are not in a relationship are just normal parts of a marriage, and I consider it pretty neurotic to say you were rap…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 06:24 PM
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Yes, it's an exaggeration. I understand the concept, but I can't imagine certain acts being considered rape in the context of a marriage. For example, both Husband and I have woken the other with sex without discussing beforehand that that was acceptable. While that technically fits the definition of rape it's extremely weird to me for anyone to possibly qualify it as such. There are plenty of sex acts we've done together for which we did not acquire prior consent. To me, nothing my Husband coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 06:19 PM
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I really couldn't have proven anything. I tried to press charges for sexual assault before over a different instance with a different person, but there was no evidence and the police couldn't do anything about it except interview the guy who, unsurprisingly, told a different story. I would much rather not go through a losing battle like that again. There are women for whom marital rape is an actual concern or possibility for various reasons. I just can't relate to them at all. I can only see thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 02:08 PM
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if a man is not a feminist I can't see a relationship with him. And I would never date a feminist. Just because someone isn't a feminist doesn't automatically make them a misogynist. RP can be great for LTRs. Most of the men who post on that sub are unfit for LTRs and I'm not going to argue against that notion, particularly considering they don't want them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 01:53 PM
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No need for sadness. I was just trying to illustrate that there are other reasons for this chick's boyfriend to care beyond just her having her feelings hurt since apparently that reaction to being called a ho is confusing somehow...? Being called a slut or whore isn't upsetting to me in and of itself, so in that case Husband would probably be more offended for himself than for me (though not entirely just for himself), because I would also only be offended for his sake if called that. If someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 04:42 AM
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This just sounds like a naturally dominant man with a sense of humor and playfulness. It seems like he's just trying to come at it from a fun angle rather than a stern or hard angle. Obviously I can't see their interactions to know exactly how all of this is being said, but I don't think that using "game" within a relationship and being naturally dominant are mutually exclusive.
/r/RedPillWomen03/02/15 04:22 AM
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Am I missing something? What you are calling "mind games" I just call flirting. How is acting more aggressively toward you leading up to sex any more nefarious than any other form of light foreplay? I really don't understand why you would be bothered by any of this. In the first example he's acting in a way he knows you think is sexy because he wants you to want him. There's nothing wrong with that whatsoever and in fact you should consider yourself lucky that he puts in the effort to keep your …
/r/RedPillWomen03/02/15 04:13 AM
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So is it good for terpers to be themselves? In a relationship? Most of them don't want one anyway. And I doubt the issue of marital rape is going to come up when trying to pick up a woman at a bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 03:01 AM
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I know I'm making a mountain out of a molehill. It's a problem of mine that I'm working on. For now I just try not to bug Husband about it. What men and women bring to a relationship is different, but I've been struggling with knowing what I bring to the table isn't as important as keeping a roof over our heads. I'm slipping into too much of a tit for tat mindset and too preoccupied with "keeping up" with him as far as what I have to offer, to the point that I'm just being neurotic about it rath…
/r/RedPillWomen03/02/15 12:44 AM
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Oops!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 12:29 AM
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I imagine the kind of woman who would get into a ridiculous argument on Facebook is going to be more sensitive to such insults. However, her boyfriend's reaction makes sense at least somewhat. I imagine my Husband would be pretty pissed off if someone called me a ho or a slut because that is an insult to him as well. You tell a man he's married to a ho and you're basically saying he's a pathetic loser being cuckolded. You insult someone's SO and you're insulting their judgment and self respect. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 11:34 PM
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Not really. 100% proof is nearly impossible to obtain unless the entire thing is caught on HD camera with no ambiguity as to what's happening. 0% proof and nothing but an accusation is not sufficient to convict. Even DNA evidence in the case of rape doesn't necessarily offer proof. I personally know two men whose now ex girlfriends had consensual sex with them and then went to the police to report it as a rape to get back at them for some fight they had. I have no idea how frequently that actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 08:39 PM
2

Well thank you very much :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 08:23 PM
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However many end up being free after due process. While these things are beyond unfortunate, I absolutely do not support throwing out the idea of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. There is often a lack of evidence in these cases, so the choice comes down to: 1.) automatically believe the alleged victim and leave it to the accused to prove their innocence. If they can't prove innocence they are convicted, or 2.) go about it like we do every other crime and leave it to the prosecution to provide su…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 08:21 PM
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Haha, thank you. I appreciate that. And yes, even if I didn't agree with the rest of it I would still love that blog post for the title alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 08:14 PM
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I immediately made an appointment to get tested and luckily came back clean. I can only assume a man who would do such a thing didn't use condoms with anyone, and we didn't have any discussion about how many prior partners he'd had. What makes it even more disturbing is that I also didn't tell him whether or not I was on birth control, so for all he knew the main reason I asked him to use a condom in the first place was as a birth control method. I'm also not sure if what he did was technically …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 05:25 PM
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I don't think any of these qualify as rape. For some of them maybe another form of sexual assault. I told a guy to use a condom once and he took it off halfway through without me noticing until he finished. I wouldn't say I was raped, but at best that was an incredibly shitty thing to do. These are all pretty dick moves save for number 7, but I also don't understand the concept of marital rape. As far as my marriage goes that is not a thing that exists or is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 02:24 PM
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It depends on what you mean by "just be yourself." Matt Walsh is pretty hit and miss with me, but I think his view on this is pretty spot on: http://themattwalshblog.com/2014/01/23/if-i-cant-accept-you-at-your-worst-then-maybe-you-should-stop-being-so-horrible/ "Just be yourself" can be used as an excuse to get complacent. While I don't advise putting on an entirely different persona, relationships take work which may include fighting some of your natural instincts in favor of self improvement a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 02:13 PM
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I really think it is terrible advice to tell someone to complain about their SO to friends. There are ways to address issues you have that do not involve being a nagging harpy. Once you start bitching about your SO regularly to your friends you've already messed up his reputation with them and there's likely no getting that back. Now you've got a group of friends who think negatively of your SO and may end up turning you against him even more by continually validating and possibly expanding on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 01:59 PM
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I think my main problem besides the insecurity of him increasing his value is that we haven't discussed a game plan for what we want to do with the extra money. There are a few larger items we've been waiting to buy, but we've been borderline destitute while we had only my single income and expensive items felt like a distant dream. While he doesn't want to get into the hassle of putting together a specific budget I have asked him if he will sit down with me to go over his top priorities so I ca…
/r/RedPillWomen02/02/15 01:50 PM
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Eaterofpie Haha, we got a good chuckle out of that. Thank you, though I think my parents might deserve more credit than I do in this area. I was raised to find that sort of behavior deplorable.
/r/RedPillWomen02/02/15 02:54 AM
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As much as I loathe Dr Laura in general, I have learned some helpful things from her in regards to relationships (hopefully goes without saying, but helpful as in "resonated with me personally" and not "everyone should do this"). Sorry to ask you to clarify something from one of "my own" texts that I haven't read, but does Surrendered Wife advocate venting about relationship issues outside of your spouse or SO, or just saving most negative discussions for someone else? Complaining about your SO …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 02:33 AM
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While I wouldn't wish any kind of emotional turmoil on another person, it's good to know I'm not alone in these concerns. I've worked a lot on my vulnerability since getting married, but now it almost seems like I have to start over. Allowing myself to be vulnerable in trusting him to make the big decisions got pretty easy after awhile. In a way it's good that this is happening now because it's made me realize that there's a totally different level of trust that's going to be required from me th…
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/15 09:32 PM
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Thanks for this. It's helpful to have a male perspective. No matter how much I try to internalize that men and women are different it's still something I have to remind myself of. Just because I can feel secure and happy needing my Husband doesn't mean it's the same for him.
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/15 08:49 PM
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Is this posed toward men specifically, or anyone? I assume that most of the more offensive things said by either side here would not be expressed during normal daily interactions with other people. I don't think anyone here would be terribly surprised by my behavior and personality if they were to meet me outside of reddit. My Husband is probably a different story. I think there would be some shat pants over any association of his whatsoever to TRP. I'm actually giggling a little bit just thinki…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 08:33 PM
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He would undoubtedly find it unattractive as well, which is why I'm coming here to organize my thoughts before broaching the subject with him, if I do at all. You're right, though, I'm creating an issue for myself where I needn't be. I know that with time I'll "get used to it" but it looks like it might be a fake it 'til I make it thing.
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/15 06:10 PM
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I think this is absolutely the crux of the issue. I tried to be a good wife before rather than just relying on the fact that he needed me to support him, but I didn't realize until now how much that affected my feelings of security. I've always seen him as high value, but I've never been with a high value man for whom I didn't offer something concrete that he needed rather than things that are nice to have like home cooked meals, clean laundry, validation, etc. I thought that I had opened myself…
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/15 06:06 PM
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only butt stuff needs advance notice, otherwise go nuts hahahaha, I love this so much! I haven't actually read The Surrendered Wife, but I could not disagree more with the not initiating sex thing. I've expressed time and time again that there is no one "right way" to run a relationship, and the major flaw I see in this design is that since it doesn't naturally suit your personalities it all becomes very prescriptive. For example, even as a confirmed RPW whose Husband follows TRP so we know each…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 05:54 PM
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Well, that's quite obviously stupid. But just because it isn't a good idea for everyone doesn't mean it's a bad idea for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 04:52 PM
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My opinion, based solely on the information you've given here: no.
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/15 02:59 AM
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Thank you! I know when I was making more money I saw it as ours and not just mine, so I need to get used to feeling that way when he's the one who earned more of it. He doesn't like budgeting but I do think I'll sit down with him and go over his long term goals and ideas so I can put something into place that will help him achieve those things. We haven't had a concrete budget for a few months, but now that we've got the means to start building our savings back up it's definitely a good idea to …
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/15 02:55 AM
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Honestly this just sounds like an all around bad situation. Are you sure you would even be attracted to him if he did lose weight? Marrying a man you aren't attracted to is a HUGE mistake, and a disservice to the both of you. Don't marry someone hoping that they'll change.
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/15 02:46 AM
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You're right. I'm becoming too preoccupied with my value in comparison to his rather than just being my best self.
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/15 11:59 PM
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You admit you said yes way too soon, and even that you said yes before you were actually sure. So, ARE you sure now? If he has weight issues he will likely always have them. He might lose the weight now, but with his attitude and current weight it's unlikely that he'll keep it off forever. By how you worded this I'm just confused as to why you are even still together.
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/15 11:56 PM
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We were at a really low point in our relationship shortly after we got married. We were basically just roommates and stopped interacting, and when we did it was often negative. He found TRP, I'm guessing while just surfing reddit and looking for things that could help our marriage. He started doing it on his own for awhile, and then let me read through Married Man Sex Life Primer so I knew where he was coming from. We haven't looked back since. Honestly it was like flipping a switch for me. His …
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/15 11:18 PM
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Why would he advocate C/FM? How many on TRP or RPW actually believe that that's the only way to have a solid relationship? Unless he specifically said that it's a catastrophic idea you can't really use that as a point against RP marriages. Actually there isn't really much he says that contradicts the merits of a RP marriage. My husband bought one of his books for us to read shortly before finding TRP. We both read this guy's book, not much changed, but we took a HUGE turn for the better within a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 09:01 PM
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Haha! Oh man. That's funny. No, I have definitely never talked Husband out of... just about anything, let alone a passion. I hated it when he got a motorcycle, but even in his most BP days there was no way in hell he was going to tolerate me telling him what to do. I still hate it and hope he doesn't get a new one after selling his last, but he probably will, and I'll just deal with it because I have no other option.
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/15 07:34 PM
1

Thank you, this stated my thoughts exactly, and much better than I would have. :)
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/15 06:44 PM
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They're not designed to cater to preferences, but supposedly (at least in the US) are meant to address the obesity epidemic and encourage good habits. Perhaps it would have been better addressed in health class rather than PE, but I think kids should be taught that there are many forms of exercise and while sports are good for you, it's also good to find other ways of being active. While this hasn't been a huge problem for me since I'm naturally small anyway, I do think that lifetime activities …
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/15 06:40 PM
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In some ways it seems like tons of partners can be more of a hindrance than actually making someone better in bed. "Those three girls from last month loved this, what's wrong with you?" Everyone's body is different. The only true, universal "good in bed" is the adaptable, who is willing to read their partner and figure out what they like. Vaginas are not one size/method fits all. That's why this is sort of a stupid concept to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 05:59 PM
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If it's a first date that I'm not enjoying and don't think will lead to a second date I would insist on splitting the bill. I don't want a man putting money toward me when I don't plan to give anything in return. I don't mean like a prostitution situation, but if a man is going to spend his hard earned money on me I would like to be able to reciprocate either with some form of validation, whether it be showing continued interest, picking up the tab next time, cooking for him, whatever. As soon a…
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/15 05:34 PM
1

Are you a PE teacher or something? Jesus Christ. Did you get the impression somehow that I'm overweight or struggling to shed some pounds and blame PE because I can't? I've never been overweight and obviously found ways to be active, but it would be nice if those ways were highlighted in school. I'm not, nor have I ever been, at all competitive. I'm a woman. That isn't an attractive quality in women. I'm doing just fine with the small level I have.
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/15 05:25 PM
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Personally I'm not comfortable with this and would at minimum try to make my choice as quickly as possible. It shouldn't take ten dates with a guy to figure out whether or not you want to get a bit more serious. Casual first dating is alright, but to go on regular dates with someone and still go out with other people, even if there has been no agreement for exclusivity, just seems shady to me, ESPECIALLY if you are allowing these men to pay for your outings. If I knew I was still looking around …
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/15 12:51 AM
1

Husband certainly does, but I don't really care to advertise the specific number to strangers. I wouldn't mind doing an anonymous survey, and I'm sort of interested in how RP and BP women would compare in this area. Seems like all of the women who responded here have a very small count. I'm wondering if it's because the majority of the female users here have low counts or because if our counts aren't low we don't want to tell the number. That's why it would really have to be done anonymously. Ed…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 09:29 PM
2

That's a completely different question than what you just said your question was, and I repeat that no one can give proof. They could prove they lost weight with before and after photos, but that does nothing to prove they have any success with women. I could get my Husband to come vouch for me that I do everything I say I do here, but I couldn't prove that it's not just an alt I created. I don't know what standard of proof you could possibly expect. And I still don't think it matters. If you tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:55 PM
3

Probably not. It just doesn't matter much to me. If I believe a story someone made up on the Internet that is just about their own personal lives I haven't lost anything. I'm curious about people's personal lives because I'm just a nosy person, but I don't need anyone to prove themselves. Entertainment is entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:01 AM
5

There's no way to prove that, though. All anyone can prove is that they're really female or male and that they're not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 03:46 AM
3

This gets said a lot, and honestly I don't really see it. Personally I don't put enough stock in any of this to really care if some of the women I'm talking to are actually men, so it's not something I ever even consider, but even when looking for it I'm not sure I see a whole lot that sounds super unrealistic. Maybe sometimes, but it's pretty few and far between. I've posted a pic where my tiny little girl hands are partially visible. Best I can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 02:26 AM
0

Yeah, I'm not going to answer this with my name attached and I'm sure a lot of others feel the same way, but I would be really interested to see the breakdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 02:17 AM
0

Value in what way? I feel just as much, if not more, sympathy for them than I do for unattractive women. That doesn't have much to do with valuing them, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 02:42 PM
0

As /u/wazzup987 said, "friend zoning" is an issue that stems from dishonesty from one or both parties. The only way it could be compared to plate spinning is if we assume either a.) the woman in question is being completely clear with her orbiters that she is not and will never be interested in a relationship with them, or b.) the male to whom we are comparing her is not honest with the women he dates and leads them to believe that they have a shot at getting his commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 01:12 AM
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Most people do not adjust their caloric intake when something medical puts them at a disadvantage which is a problem. ugh, mini-rant. I am in a couple of "support group" kind of things for people with my medical condition, and the amount that are overweight is pretty high. It can be really difficult for me/us to keep up with exercise routines and yeah, that's a legitimate medical disadvantage. But that is not an excuse to be fat. You can't work out? Stop eating so much, then. That is just such a…
/r/RedPillWomen28/01/15 11:41 PM
8

Agreed on all counts. Particularly: I dislike when people automatically equate being active with sports, because not everyone enjoys competition, and I think it ends up discouraging many kids that don't start out with natural abilities. So diversifying the activities that kids get exposed to would be great. This was a HUGE problem for me in school and I feel PE did me a disservice in many ways. There were only particular types of physical activity that were encouraged, and they happened to be ac…
/r/RedPillWomen28/01/15 11:34 PM
2

it seems like a woman who is only interested in casual-sex-positive men doesn't have any reason not to be a slut pretty much true, but TRP condones going for what's going to cast the widest net. If you sleep with tons of dudes you are making your potential SO pool smaller and smaller, whereas if you wait for sex until you're in a relationship and are choosy about it you probably aren't really eliminating any future prospects. Even guys who are casual sex positive are unlikely to be turned off by…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 10:09 PM
2

I'd like to be around 5'. Being short is an inextricable part of my identity, so I guess when I think about being even shorter I'm imagining being even more "me?" If that answer doesn't make sense, let's just go with "I'm weird."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 07:28 PM
0

I agree I don't think it's going to be detrimental to getting women unless they take it so far that they're living in the gym and have no time for a social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 07:20 PM
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I don't think most women are repulsed by jacked dudes. There's a difference between "he can get laid anytime he wants" and "he is the physical ideal for women." My strong aversion to large builds probably makes me an outlier, but my ideal is pretty normal. I like very low body fat and somewhat visible muscle definition but minimal bulk, which is how almost every woman I know feels as well. I've been with a couple of bodybuilder types and couldn't touch their arms or chest during sex because it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 06:40 PM
1

If your point is that the majority of women actually do prefer very bulky types, I disagree with you. But you didn't explicitly state that. I will say that it seems pretty obvious that it's no longer true that only the "hot" and most desirable procreate. I live in the US where there are more obese people than not. That didn't happen because sexual selection favors fatties.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 06:31 PM
0

What women see as the feminine ideal is much different from what men see as the feminine ideal, and what men see as the masculine ideal is different from what women consider the masculine ideal. It seems each gender super over-inflates what level of "masculine" and "feminine" traits their bodies should have. I'm 5'2 and 110 lbs, but I wouldn't mind being a bit shorter and smaller. I have male friends who are 6'5 and wouldn't mind being a bit taller. When we think about ourselves it's like we're …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 06:18 PM
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With polls. Asking women whether they have been raped. Problem with this is, it is inherently flawed. There are many ways to pose the question that could skew the results, obviously there is no investigation of any kind to substantiate the claims, and getting a representative sample is going to be extremely difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 06:08 PM
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You mean 1 in 5 of them? Which is already based on skewed statistics and poor information gathering methods either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 09:22 PM
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Something like that, but I don't feel like looking it up. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 09:12 PM
1

If you're a crazy person and want to take it that far, sure, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 08:47 PM
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My point is that there is only a certain amount of "careful" a woman could reasonably be without locking herself in a vault. Going out drinking with your boyfriend under the understanding that he will be watching out for you is being careful. Unfortunately being careful doesn't eliminate any chance of being raped. You can be careful and it can still happen. I just think it is unwise to put yourself in high risk situations, but it sounds like this particular case does not qualify.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 08:20 PM
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There's a different thread I was on with a different rape case (Steubenville) and I got the two mixed up, sorry. Getting drunk with your boyfriend should be safe, so I don't think the argument I was originally making really applies in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 08:10 PM
1

Not sure if just trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 07:41 PM
1

So your stance is that it's completely black and white and there's no such thing as putting yourself in a dangerous situation, every situation with a man is equally dangerous so there's no point in taking specific precautions against specific situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 07:31 PM
1

Do you really think all men are dangerous? After being raped myself I put myself into a foolish situation I learned to not put myself into dangerous situations anymore. That doesn't mean I stopped ever being around men because they're dangerous. There's a big difference between blaming yourself and recognizing that you made a poor decision that you don't intend to make again. It's not my fault but I don't want to contribute to that ever happening again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 07:14 PM
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I'm not denying their agency. Just because a woman foolishly puts herself into a dangerous situation doesn't mean it's ALL her fault and men simply can't control themselves. Men who would do such a thing are terrible people and deserve to be punished for it. But that doesn't mean we have to pretend that no one should have to be careful and take care of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 07:09 PM
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Maybe if she suffers PTSD from the ordeal. With therapy hopefully she could realize that she put herself into an inherently dangerous situation and to be practical in the future, which does not include having an automatic fear of all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 06:50 PM
4

Okay, I'll actually answer, though. TRP is about men trying to act in their own best interests. It is sexy and enticing for a woman to be wanted so much that a guy will do anything to be with her, at least in concept. It's an extremely poor long term strategy for multiple reasons, but I'm not sure how many would deny the obvious sexual appeal of being the only one this former player type wants. However, it would be detrimental for TRP to advise that. A man gains nothing from being a submissive t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 06:17 PM
1

Well, I'm exaggerating a bit, I don't honestly feel a seething hatred for people who like the book, but yeah. It's horrible. And the Christian Grey character makes me want to throw up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 06:00 PM
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I think the sex offender registry is a SEVERELY flawed system, but this is a terrible case to use as evidence for why we should have a "drunk whore registry." Those boys went beyond being mere "dickheads" and engaged in clearly criminal behavior. She was UNCONSCIOUS. If young men are so stupid that they really have questions about whether or not it should be okay to engage in ANY sort of sexual activity with a woman who is completely unconscious, we've got some bigger issues here. I agree that p…
/r/RedPillWomen27/01/15 05:58 PM
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It's not your fault for being raped, but that doesn't mean you can't accept even the slightest bit of responsibility for putting yourself into a dangerous situation. "Don't get blackout drunk at parties anymore" should be a takeaway from this, rather than just "campus assaults are out of control."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 05:35 PM
0

You should teach a class.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 05:32 PM
2

It IS! It IS repulsive! Fuck you to anyone who likes that book.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 05:29 PM
1

I don't read TRP but I can't imagine what sort of insanely creepy individual would claim his ideal SO has no skills or self respect. Is that actually a thing that gets said?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 05:26 PM
3

To anyone who claims their love is unconditional: sucks to be you, but that's got nothing to do with my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 02:19 PM
3

I don't need to see myself as inferior, nor do I.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 02:18 PM
8

It isn't so much about physical appearance aside from dressing well, having good hygiene, and not being obese. It's more about character traits that attract women, most of which are not so specific that you can't make them your own. For example, having hobbies you care about that do not revolve your SO. Women are more attracted to men who have skills. We may, as individuals, be more or less attracted to specific types of skills, but overall we want a man who is good at something. We tend not to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 12:48 AM
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I admittedly didn't realize how important a strong physical attraction is in a LTR and basically just got incredibly lucky with my husband. It took me having that kind of relationship to realize it's something I need as a necessary component and not just a "plus." I think a very large amount of women tell themselves it's normal to just not be interested in your partner that way except once in a blue moon.
/r/RedPillWomen27/01/15 12:39 AM
1

Who is they??? Sansa_culotte is not a RP man. She's a random BPer who is trying to speak for a group to which she does not belong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 12:21 AM
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That still has nothing whatsoever to do with the comment I responded to. A random person who disagrees with a group I am a part of decides to speak for that group by saying something patently false about it. Why exactly do they deserve to speak for me and what does that have to do with any sort of ownership?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 12:15 AM
3

Wtf are you talking about? Is this Sansa person a RP man now?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 12:10 AM
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Correct -.-
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 10:29 PM
6

what does she do in that case she ends up with a RPer? continue on with enjoying my marriage and life and keep caring about and respecting my partner...? AWALT, "you can't love unconditionally", "you're a child", "stop your shit tests", "dread game" (manipulation) AWALT =/= all women are identical. Every woman has a different amount of these traits. What other women do isn't particularly relevant to me or my Husband. "You can't love unconditionally." Neither can anyone with half a brain. Who car…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 10:23 PM
7

If you want tips on pleasing your man, or traditional marriages, there are other places to find that like where, exactly? Because I haven't seen a whole lot outside of overtly religious blogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 10:06 PM
1

Seems like most of the SOs of the women there don't know about RP. Mine does. He's subscribed there. I don't think he ever posts there unless he has an alt I don't know about, but I very highly doubt it. And yes, it is something we discuss together. But just as RPW don't care what RP men at large think of us, my husband and I don't care about how other people choose to live. We use the parts that are useful in our relationship, but when it comes to "AWALT" it doesn't matter enough to even really…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 10:04 PM
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Completely false. Maybe don't answer on behalf of a group of which you are not a member.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 09:56 PM
1

Not sure if I am one of the two to whom you are referring. I've never had a one night stand but I haven't exactly made it a secret that I have a fairly high count. I don't really see a lot of "we're the top most desirable women overall" expressed at RPW, but maybe I just skim those parts. A lot of people seem to think we have this idea about being special or an exception to RP rules, which is completely false. Focusing on being in the top 20% is silly. Comparing ourselves to other people is not …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 09:55 PM
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I'd rather say rigged statistics. when one of the questions is whether or not the woman has experienced unwanted "attempted kissing" and a "yes" answer gets thrown into the rape pile, yeah, I'm going with that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 02:13 PM
2

Fair enough, but just how much do you trust the ability of these women to estimate the length of every dude they're with? Not to mention how many dudes have claimed to be 7 inches so that's what they see and think of as 7 inches even though the guy was full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 08:27 PM
0

I know hardly any women who care, but I think "women prefer their partners to NOT have a tiny penis" is more true a statement than "women prefer their partners to have a huge penis" in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 04:59 PM
2

Yes, probably me. I think it was a combination of changing the conversation and changing the whole relationship dynamic. There's no denying that I'm much more attracted to the image of a man who is in charge. I never saw myself turning him down for sex as abusive, but I did start seeing it more as a mean and crappy thing to do to someone you love. But thinking it's mean to say no without good reason is a recipe for obligatory pity sex, not a mutually fulfilling, hot sex life. That's why there ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 04:55 PM
2

All I can say is, most men care about their dick size about twenty times more than most women do. It's presented as some sort of conspiracy where girls are all taught to lie and "pretend" that dick size is seriously not a big deal at all. It's borderline hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 04:47 PM
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Your order is WAY off. A tall and muscular man is going to get us hot way more quickly than just looking at a sizable boner. Women don't watch porn that centers around watching a huge dick. If you read female erotica you'll see four times the words spent on describing a man's muscular physique over any mention of package size or penis description at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 06:14 AM
3

I really don't know. I think it's just that no one wants to tell one rape victim that her story isn't as bad as it could be. In the effort to avoid delegitimizing one person's experience the whole thing becomes this ridiculous "he assaulted me by standing too close" clusterfuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 09:26 PM
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No matter how many people want to deny it for whatever reason, there are different "levels" of rape. I don't often think about rape as some dude who just can't contain his boner anymore because that isn't on the "level" of what I think about when I'm imagining rape. There are certainly men out there who just seriously lack self control and force themselves upon their dates rather than just jerking off after she leaves, but I think in most cases where that's the issue that actually physically fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 08:15 PM
2

I wasn't with you and was wondering why until you said that a dude pressuring a girl into sex is rape. If you consider that rape then yeah, that's probably more just about sex than control.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 07:57 PM
2

Hahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 05:01 PM
1

Ha. Sorry to disappoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 05:00 PM
2

Where did anyone advise him to "dread game" his wife over the dinner issue? You're acting like that's the only advice ever given.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 03:51 PM
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"Give her" some carrots? Is she a pet that he has to feed? She can get a snack for her damn self. Have you ever made dinner for people? It's frustrating when you're preparing a meal for someone and they start snacking or eat before it's done. Unless you have a blood sugar condition waiting an hour isn't going to hurt you. If my husband is REALLY hungry he'll get a snack before dinner is done, but he is respectful and polite enough to not hassle me and constantly rush me when I'm cooking dinner, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 03:24 PM
2

Glad things are looking up for you :)
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/15 11:39 PM
10

There are also twice as many men who are borderline retarded. More on the edges of the bell curve and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:54 PM
1

Ah. In that case we're good ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:15 PM
3

I didn't see anything in here about them not being in a committed relationship. I don't think any man worth having would be willing to wait until marriage, but I am also not religious so that probably makes a difference.
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/15 05:50 PM
2

Hahahahahaha what?!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 05:39 PM
1

Uh oh, I've been caught :X
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 05:39 PM
6

He plays pranks on me quite frequently. That doesn't satisfy my desire for discourse. It makes me laugh. I have lots of laughing in my life. Just not lots of disagreements. Thanks for being an asshole for no reason, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 05:38 PM
1

:D
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 05:34 PM
6

I guess it just depends how you look at it, but that whole concept completely zaps the fun out of it for me. But I don't have and have never had "play partners."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 02:48 PM
5

I'm married! What kind of cruel joke is it to make your husband wear a condom? Haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 02:47 PM
4

As an overall policy I really do not care what other people do as long as they aren't hurting anyone. Sex workers are no different. If they aren't being forced into it and have solid protections, good for them.
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/15 02:29 PM
9

Husband and I agree on pretty much everything, and there is hardly ever any discourse in my life. Gets boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 02:20 PM
3

There's nothing wrong with it. I just wouldn't want to fuck you and it's a massive turn off. But why would you care about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 02:18 PM
10

Goddamn do I hate it when people say this. If I'm "holding all the power" what's the damn point?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 02:17 PM
5

I have settled, and was prepared to "settle" with my husband, but I'm glad I didn't have to. I usually favored the needy men who didn't turn me on, telling myself it was a good thing because he was good to me and really cared about me. Hubs and I didn't have sex until we had already fallen in love, and I had already resigned myself to having a mediocre sex life forever if we didn't hit it off really well in that department. I now know that that was a ridiculous thing to even momentarily think I …
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/15 01:49 AM
2

I genuinely don't think I could do better than my Husband. I could probably make some lateral moves, but while there are more high value men on the planet, I could not have a relationship with those men anyway. I maxed out with my marriage, and I'm lucky to have gotten him at all. We all have to "settle" for imperfect people because no one is ever going to meet 100% of our specifications 100% of the time, but there is "settling" for a man without the perfect eye color and settling for a man who …
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/15 01:41 AM
3

My Husband's sex drive fell off quite a lot when he didn't like his job. I saw you say elsewhere that he doesn't seem to dread it every day, and my husband didn't seem to either. It took awhile to realize how much a toll it was taking. His sex drive is very "finicky" and his emotional state has a really huge impact on his libido. Some men like sex as a stress reliever, and some men can't even think about sex while they're stressed. I have the latter, and it seems you may too. Unfortunately there…
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/15 01:29 AM
4

Top percent of men refers to superstar millionaires etc. Not Good looking Gary that has a nice car and a decent job. Your wording always makes me smile :)
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/15 12:53 AM
5

I've been a grown up for a short enough time that I still remember well all of the ways I could spin things in my head to make my parents sound like crazy people. There's no way they're THIS nuts. Good grief.
/r/RedPillWomen22/01/15 11:51 PM
1

I've known several men in their 40s who still have flings with women half their age. There isn't a universal age that the party stops for anyone. My mom is in her 40's and STILL gets insane amounts of attention from men, including wealthy men with status. The amount of people who are still going to be able to sleep around with younger, attractive people is going to drop off quite a bit once they hit 50. I've also known several men who left their wives thinking they could score someone younger an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 06:23 PM
1

Absolutely. I disagree on many fundamental issues with many people I consider friends, but we never yell at each other about it. Life would be boring and I would never expand if I were always surrounded by people who agree with me. There is way too much hostility when you add the anonymity of the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 05:20 PM
1

He was born mostly blind, which I think kind of boosted his linguistic abilities. He grew up speaking Polish at home (my great grandpa was an immigrant) and picked up most of the Slavic languages pretty quickly. There is or was a program at the time to help blind people get training for work, and translating was the obvious choice. Russian translators were pretty highly sought after during the Cold War (apparently), so he did really well during that time. He translates a few other languages as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 05:13 PM
2

I think it's helpful to humanize those on the other end. Flame wars are not productive, and when you see someone as an actual person rather than a "pill" floating around you are more likely to want to engage in a polite debate rather than resorting to character attacks. I think this is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 08:24 PM
0

Is your username a Louis CK reference?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 08:19 PM
1

I feel you. I'll be 26 this year and already feel like I need to retire from reddit. But I'm totally not going to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 08:18 PM
1

I'm glad this was helpful for you :) It's easy to see a lot of RP relationship stuff as painting a negative picture of the feminine role at first, but RPW is about adding value to our mate's lives. We also choose strong and capable men who wouldn't invest their time and emotions into a woman they could discard at will. When you've found such a man you know it :)
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/15 08:05 PM
1

Agreed on all counts! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 07:24 PM
3

I thought the title was quoting a Fever Ray song and wondered what that had to do with RPW. I love this, though. It's a big gripe I have with feminism. Either women are strong and as tough as men or we are so fragile and impressionable that we opt out of STEM fields in large numbers because we are too butthurt that people say science is for boys. RPW are accused of having no backbone and being weak or damaged, but to do things properly we must be resilient. We must hold up under pressure and not…
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/15 06:39 PM
6

In what capacity do you need him? Surely not to survive. My husband doesn't need me and could certainly live without me, but that doesn't mean I don't bring anything to the table. I have improved his life by being in it and continue to improve it. His life is easier when working as part of a team rather than on his own. That men don't "need" women is a reminder that they needn't put up with dead weight dragging them down or someone who doesn't add value to their lives. TRP at large may disagree,…
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/15 06:23 PM
3

Why would you ask that here? Do you not know what subreddit you're on? It's the default because this is RPW. If she wanted to play a different role she could find a different sub.
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/15 06:11 PM
1

Even if I didn't like something that I had tried before with someone else I still wanted to do it with my husband because I am madly in love with and attracted to him and I hated the thought of anyone else getting to experience a side of me that my husband never will. The only excuse for saying no to an act you've done before with someone else is if the incident was really traumatic. I am pretty convinced that you aren't that into your dude sexually if you won't do something you've done with som…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 05:22 PM
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This is an interesting topic because messages that women (particularly married women) don't really care about sex are ubiquitous. Perhaps this is indeed because there is a shortage of men who are continuing to inspire lust in their partners. I do think the importance of female lust is incredibly downplayed, or at least that I've never heard talk about how to inspire lust specifically outside of TRP. There are plenty of columns and blogs and lists about the things men can do to keep emotional con…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 04:58 PM
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Neat! My grandpa is a Russian translator. He tried to teach me when I was younger. I found it a rather difficult language. I still love to listen to it, though, even though I don't understand. It feels like home. As for me: 25 years old. Enjoy talking about myself (obviously). Married. Atypical RPW, have lots of tattoos and hair hasn't been a natural color in years, admitted former slutty person. Obsessed with dogs and crocheting. Former hairstylist. Recently developed some debilitating issues a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 04:48 PM
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How old are you? It's the Internet so I'm allowed to ask rude as fuck questions. Trust me, I worked at an IT help desk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 04:38 PM
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a painful reaction to penetration ain't normal. It's far more likely that the man doesn't know how to do it right without making it hurt than that there is a medical problem going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 03:25 AM
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Not who you were asking, but the over dramatics of that snippet are just silly to me. I imagine I may temporarily lose attraction to my husband if he were ill and unable to have sex for several months, but it would return when he was well. He was unemployed for five months and the only libido affected was his own. Your woman's respect for you was already shaky at best if even a tiny bit of it could be lost over a normal human illness. I have seen enough confident leader qualities displayed by my…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 03:07 AM
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I can only speak from short term experience. I had to do everything for my husband after he had some major surgery, though the recovery was not a super extended process (also not talking about just the day after anesthesia wore off, though). Obviously nothing was irreparably damaged, but honestly I don't think I could have kept it up on a long term basis. The physical and mental stress of caring for him started to cause me other problems outside the marriage. I did not remotely lose respect for …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 02:32 AM
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Humiliating your wife in a birthing class by having an outburst is definitely not any kind of LTR game, or anything at all recommended. I think one must have a foundation of understanding how to be socially adept before they can really use TRP in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 06:30 PM
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Not trying to be rude, but is there a point to this statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 06:25 PM
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What do you take care of in the spectrum of inside/outside chores, such as laundry or lawnmowing? Are your responsibilities varied or mostly the same daily tasks? My health issues have prevented me from keeping up as much as I would like to, but I will be switching to part time work soon and can get back to my duties at home. This includes all cooking, all cleaning, and all laundry. Husband takes care of all outside things like gardening and mowing the lawn, and fixes things that break inside. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 01:44 PM
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Throwing childish temper tantrums and being immature, selfish, and impatient is about as far from being a "captain" as you can get. Not saying you actually do need RP but I've read Athol Kay and what you're describing as your previous behavior does not sound like anything recommended.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 01:16 PM
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I've got nothing to prove by agreeing or disagreeing, but I was surprised by your post as well because I have also experienced the exact opposite of what you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 03:12 PM
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At least for me, there is a difference between intellectual and emotional love. Obviously they are both types of emotions, but one fades, or waxes and wanes, and the other doesn't. I feel both for my Husband. I love him for his mind and his determination. He is one of the most talented people I have ever met, and he exhibits many qualities I respect and admire but do not possess. I would still love him on this level if he left me or cheated on me or something. It's not about my relationship to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 03:02 PM
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I'm not exactly sure if I was smarter or just less drunk. I was always incredibly shy so as I got older I overcame it by being purposefully outgoing and friendly. So I would talk to people about things that interested them and I like learning about people so they could tell I was genuinely interested in what they had to say. It seemed like most of the time other women wanted to either be blatantly over the top sexual or they just talked about superficial things that was obviously just filler to …
/r/RedPillWomen18/01/15 02:24 AM
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I don't mean to put words in your mouth I didn't think you were :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:14 AM
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Is there anything wrong with switching the genders here? not if that's what you want. I'm happier and have more sexual attraction when my husband is in charge. He prioritizes our marriage as much as I do, but we have different roles in showing it. Everything he does is to benefit "the team." If you don't want a male-led relationship that's fine, but I was speaking specifically about RP relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 05:04 PM
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Just like women who create these mile long lists of "requirements" for a SO and are disappointed or feel some kind of righteous indignation that men aren't living up to her standards. To me a lot of RP truths are just about being realistic with your expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 04:41 PM
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I don't really see what is that harsh or hard about maintaining a RP relationship, though obviously it depends highly on whom you choose for a LTR. For men: stand up for yourself, don't take shit, maintain hobbies and interests outside of your relationship, put effort into your physical appearance. For women: show trust in your man, respect him, stand back and let him be his own person, listen to him, put effort into your physical appearance and make sex a priority. Women who will trust and resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 04:35 PM
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I know this will make me extremely unpopular, but I would guess I would qualify to most people here as being one of those women you are describing, obviously well before I met my husband. Coming across as demure and feminine and sleeping with a lot of people are not mutually exclusive. Many men would prefer the girl with the pleasant demeanor who is feminine and dresses classily but has slept with quite a few men over a drunken hot mess who wears trashy clothes and is masculine but still a virgi…
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/15 04:21 PM
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Goodness, it is honestly shocking to me how many women don't like sex and just do it for their partner to make them happy, never because they actually want it. You are not the first woman I've heard state that they thought other women were lying about liking sex because they have never found it enjoyable. It's almost heartbreaking to me. To me it is SUCH an important part of bonding as a couple. To be honest, physically there are times very few and far between that it's just meh for me because I…
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/15 02:34 PM
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No, that isn't normal. PLEASE find a new doctor. This makes me concerned for you. You should not be tearing every time and the things they use at the doctors office should not be that painful. This is an indication that something is wrong. Did you tell them how painful sex is for you? A lot of problems will show no physical signs of an issue so it wouldn't be caught during a normal exam. Some women have hormonal issues that cause them to tear easily and there are various things to help that, but…
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/15 02:13 PM
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I think the concepts of alpha/beta are useful of all things that's what stood out as useful? I still feel cringe-y when I use them because it sounds cheesy and unnatural to me. For what exactly are they useful?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 06:46 AM
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Does it really sound like OP wants to subjugate and control women? That's pretty unnecessarily harsh. MGTOW are not automatically male supremacists, in fact I think most of them make the decision because they're awkward and don't care that much and don't want to mess with it, not because they're butthurt that no woman has been willing to live under their thumbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 06:41 AM
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I'm a little late to the party here and I think your question has been more than sufficiently answered, but I am wondering out of curiosity: if a woman did make advances toward you would you turn her away? Meaning, have you just decided to stop trying or have you completely shunned the entire idea and will actively prevent having a female companion if that's what it comes to? I can't remotely fathom not wanting a life partner for whom you have a mutual romantic love, but I acknowledge that every…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 06:38 AM
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This is true. If a man wants to marry but is not yet in a relationship I think he should be wary of TRP because their hypothetical marriage advice is absolute shit. I say hypothetical because it's an ideal that doesn't really happen and would be a high risk situation even if it did. I think most of it comes from single men who are just fantasizing over the Internet, which is fine and their right, but that bit isn't something anyone should really strive for. TRP can be great for LTRs and marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 06:23 AM
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LOL @ whomever downvoted posting a feckin source
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 06:07 AM
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Yes, everyone has different tastes, but how many people are going to argue that Megan Fox isn't actually in a higher league than your next door neighbor you think is pretty? There's a market for everything. TRP is far from the first place where people have used dating market as a term. They sure as hell didn't invent the concept. Is there no housing market or car market because people have different tastes and things they're looking for? I really don't even know what you're imagining when you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 02:53 AM
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Personally I don't find men in general very attractive on a purely physical level unless they are top 1% movie star level hot. I have no idea if that's normal or not for most women. I think my husband is sexy as hell, but I didn't think that upon first laying eyes on him. When straight women post pictures of their SOs talking about how handsome they are I'm almost always like "whatever you say, honey." In my mind when I post a picture of Husband the average woman is also going to think he's hot,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 03:23 PM
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Even if the mom works, statistically she probably makes less money than her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 02:34 PM
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Most RPers will acknowledge that a man's value doesn't keep increasing and increasing forever. There is a wall for men too, and unless they are goddamn Hugh Hefner they're not going to be able to keep pulling hot, young women in their 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 02:32 PM
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IVF via sperm donation is for lesbians or as a last resort for women who weren't able to find a man to get her pregnant before her biological clock ran out. No one sane chooses to have a child with no intentions of it ever having a father. A family includes someone to grow old with. Your child is most likely not going to be your lifetime companion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 02:28 PM
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Do you think this applies to men as well? Of course it does, unless maybe you are talking about ONSs alone, but I'm not sure you can use that considering in those cases you don't have the time to figure out the person's personality. isn't the statement that men are chiefly attracted to appearance a bit misleading? I don't think the statement is inherently contradictory. It really depends on how you look at it. Like my husband says, if he were on a Suicide Girls page he might choose to look at an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 02:20 PM
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The fact that different people have different relationship values exists whether you want it to or not. Most people will say "out of her league," but SMV is just another way to say the same thing. I don't think anyone looks at another person for a relationship and specifically assesses them for their SMV in that particular term, but the things they look for and are attracted to are what give that person their SMV. I don't see where any controversy could arise there, but it finds a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 02:05 PM
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My husband read some article or study or something that stated the happiest and most long-lasting marriages are the ones in which the partners both over-estimate the other's SMV (that term obviously wasn't used, but it works). When you're in love I think you tend to see your partner through rose colored glasses. Personally I think that if a man marries a woman in his league but they keep their marriage strong and neither gets complacent then the woman is likely to think of his SMV as higher than…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 01:59 PM
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...any woman can fuck men with a higher SMV, unless they have a condition where they're unable to have sex at all. If you mean the capability then there just aren't any options left. If you mean they've done so then the RP answer is yes, it's too risky an investment. I think this question starts on a faulty premise. Edit: or do you mean only specifically higher than her husband's? I am operating under the assumption that almost everyone married around their own league.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 01:15 PM
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So if you are a girl don't marry young, instead go to school, get a good job & create a life where you will attract a person who you can trust, love, build a partnership with and doesn't play stupid manipulation games or dump you the instance you hit the wall. Why do you have to go to school and get a good job to attract a person who loves you and is trustworthy? There is more to life than having a husband. Come on, how many women (or men) are going to be happy and have no regrets in their "gold…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 01:09 PM
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RPW is a gathering of women who feel the same way. I don't recall us ever doing an outreach program to try to get women to "see the light" and join us. If someone comes in they are free to look around, if they don't like it, fine. I have no idea how being involved in a sub with likeminded people means that obviously I think everyone should think like me and enjoy a relationship like mine. How does my participation imply that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 03:23 PM
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That's why I said I don't remotely care how others live their lives. The great majority of men I could not or would have trusted to lead me. That's why I picked the one I did. Where did I say anything about men automatically being more fit to lead?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 03:00 PM
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There are people who feel unloved, anxious and unhappy when NOT in an abusive relationship. I don't believe a relationship can be considered abusive if both partners are genuinely happy. Some women, and men, -gasps- even enjoy being beaten. A man can't lead by virtue of being male alone. My husband does not lead our marriage because he has a penis. I found a particular person, who happened to be a man, who I trusted to lead because that's what I wanted, and I just happen to be a woman. Some peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 02:25 PM
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You really don't think there are people who genuinely enjoy that type of relationship and feel less happiness and satisfaction when in "egalitarian" relationships? Is there only one suitable type of marriage model that is acceptable, regardless of the preferences of the individuals? Or that women who genuinely desire to be FM to a trustworthy leader should refuse to live as they actually want based on principle and what someone else says is "best for them?" I find that a ridiculous notion. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 01:05 PM
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The "point" she was trying to get across was not so much an actual point as a blathering rant which doesn't contribute to anything. Her comment was worthless. I requested she make a statement or relayed a stance one could actually respond to. And, as I figured, she indeed wasn't here to debate but to toss some poop into the ring and walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:49 PM
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This was a damn good thread. I should suggest talking about music for our next team building exercise at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 08:36 PM
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Hahahaha, coincidentally that is on my top 5 favorite restaurants. Is that another hipster attempt at irony? I'll never tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 08:32 PM
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I'm not "negging." I'm stating that if you come to a debate being an asshole you probably don't actually want to exchange ideas with anyone, and if I'm wrong feel free to de-bitch the message. Telling someone they're being a bitch when they are actually being a bitch isn't negging.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 03:58 PM
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My like of you skyrocketed upon seeing David Bowie and Brian Eno on your list. =P Did you see Velvet Goldmine by chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 07:10 PM
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I haven't even actually read the book, though I've been dying to since first seeing the movie. I've had zero luck finding it in English so far. I know a couple of other people who have read it as well, so it can't really be THAT hard to find. I must just suck at using the internet to find things I want. So far Fight Club is the only movie I've enjoyed significantly more than the book. Oh, and I hated the GoT books. Don't like his writing style at all and couldn't get into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 07:09 PM
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I don't recall ever having sent any overtly racy or completely nude photos to anyone but my husband, but he got LOTS of them. I wouldn't recommend sending them to anyone unless you were in a committed relationship that is moving toward marriage or forever-LTR, honestly. My ex took nudes of me sleeping without my permission and it really grosses me out that someone I want nothing to do with can still look at me naked. Yuck.
/r/RedPillWomen10/01/15 06:15 PM
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Picking just five bands is really difficult. Radiohead and Clutch are tied for number one, Manchester Orchestra, Neutral Milk Hotel, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. Movies: Perfume(!!!!!!if you haven't seen it, do!!!!!), Fight Club, The Fountain, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Forgetting Sarah Marshall. TV shows: Game of Thrones, Flight of the Concords, True Blood, American Horror Story, and I really don't want to admit to this at all, but Vampire Diaries is totally on there. Not sure how t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 05:34 PM
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I worded my post terribly because what I am most curious about is how a C/FM relationship is damaging to either party. It sounds like you take no issue with that and more the individual RPers who dream of an unhealthy vision of a relationship that will probably never come to fruition anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 05:19 PM
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So you would posit that RP relationships inherently must involve a narcissist and co-narcissist? You still haven't really explained why specifically. I want to know why a C/FM dynamic is inherently a bad or harmful thing. People don't usually call someone else a narcissist unless they are implying something negative that is harmful to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 05:13 PM
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I just meant that any men who would exhibit narcissism to such a degree as noted above are unlikely to be in relationships (for a few reasons), so I was implying that overt narcissism is most likely going to result in failure most of the time as far as LTRs go. I guess I wasn't completely clear in my OP, but I wondered about the use of "narcissism" specifically when referring to someone's current relationship. A lot of people can claim they would demand x, y, and z, but not a whole lot of people…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 08:41 AM
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Almost seems that way sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 07:20 AM
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Narcissistic Personality Disorder isn't so much "wrong" as harmful and destructive. It seems like NPD-lite that people seem to be referring to when using that word at someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 07:18 AM
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I'm going to guess you didn't actually care to make any conversation on this based on your rudeness, so I'm not going to bother addressing your statements. If there's an actual, fairly reasoned argument there I would be happy to discuss it, but ain't nobody got time for that snark right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 07:05 AM
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Plus we have to remember that what people say might not quite match their actions, inflated stories, and so on ABSOLUTELY! I really doubt that many users here are as candid in real life as they are here. Thank you for the thoughtful reply. Also, statistically, a cluster of so many in one place would be quite an anomaly. That statement just immediately put you on my top 5 list of favorite contributors here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 06:49 AM
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I really doubt that any significant number of RPers who actually want a wife/LTR and a family behave in quite that extreme. Is it your assumption that the majority of actual RP marriages end up that way, or just that all users in TRP exhibit those habits to harmful levels? Perhaps our definition of "harmful levels" is different, though, because I don't think most of those are inherently a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 06:39 AM
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If a man is willing to give literally nothing in return of devotion and a quality woman who treats him well, but still insists he is entitled to have that woman for himself, then yeah, totally. Have you ever seen a RP person here who is in an actual relationship describe any scenario like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 06:11 AM
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Perfectly reasonable. Though you wouldn't assume just any RPer to be a narcissist, out of curiosity have you ever used that term toward someone here or had such a thought about any relationship dynamic described here? I've seen it a lot, but so far I don't think any of the main "offenders," so to speak, have bitten. I know there are those who just come here wanting to disagree or get a few jabs in, but from the descriptions I've seen here of RP relationships I haven't read anything that screams …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 05:32 AM
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Yeah, sorry, I was just trying to emphatically state how right I think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 04:57 AM
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Exactly. ACTUAL narcissistic personality disorder is extremely serious and prevents someone from living a happy and healthy life. It is destructive to the narcissist and everyone around them. If the behavior isn't truly destructive I feel that throwing around that description is akin to (though to a less blood boiling and/or extreme degree) saying an unattractive man who merely hit on you "sexually assaulted" you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 04:12 AM
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I think I pretty much agree, if I am understanding you correctly. If two people are in a relationship and are happy and lead fulfilling lives, what difference does it make if someone on the outside of that relationship has taken it upon themselves to judge one partner as too self-centered?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 04:07 AM
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I think that having a bunch of different partners could likely stunt the learning curve when it comes to sex. As you are with someone for longer you learn their body and figure out new things and can explore together. It's much harder to do that without actual intimacy. I had/have a high count, but I can tell you for sure that married sex now is WAAAYYY better than anything else I've had, and my husband says it's a good thing I stepped up my sex game over time and didn't come into the relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 02:21 AM
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Hubs and I both require a lot of attention and affection, both physical and emotional, for our happiness. There is just no possible way one of us could be doling it out to someone else on the side without the other noticing. I think I would actually be more bothered by a sexual affair than an emotional one, but maybe that's because it's absolutely comical to imagine my husband whispering sweet nothings and falling in love with another woman. If things were bad enough that he were capable of such…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 02:13 AM
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Why thank you, kind sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 02:01 AM
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You seem to be thinking of only the subreddit specifically rather than the actual viewpoint and observations that started it. There are FAR more "RP" people on the planet who have never even heard of reddit or the term itself than those who have. TRP sub is not at all an accurate subsample of men who live by RP ideals. So why would we want to meet up with this group of men on reddit who only want plates? To answer your question: yes, they are both align with human nature. No, that doesn't mean T…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 01:38 AM
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TRP is at least about 90% of dudes whose very first bit of advice to any hint of relationship or plate trouble is "next her." We share general beliefs about human nature. Our desires could not be much more different if you are comparing the general consensus of TRP with RPW. There are a few RP men in relationships, and my husband is a subscriber though he prefers blogs and published works along the lines of Athol Kay to the subreddit itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 08:08 PM
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Right... And my desires and values include entering a traditional, male-led marriage with a trustworthy and honorable man. Obviously I wouldn't marry someone who didn't meet those criteria. A RP marriage is only going to work with a worthy man. Is that really confusing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 07:39 PM
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Most of the men on TRP are horrible LTR material to the highest degree. I'm an atheist and would only have married another atheist, but I wouldn't have been into a man who feels active hatred toward those with religious beliefs or wasted more than a few minutes per month bothering to get worked up about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 07:32 PM
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You DO realize that we choose our own husbands or SOs and don't just latch on to some random dude who may or may give a shit about us, right? Because it really seems like you don't...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 07:27 PM
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Very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 07:23 PM
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For low-income people I think marriage has a lot more benefits for both parties. My husband and I don't make much money, so the tax incentive is significant for us. The small financial benefits to being married that wouldn't be that big a deal for people with higher incomes can be a very big deal to people with meager incomes in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 01:59 PM
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That doesn't really change the argument. Belief in God is wholly unnecessary to come to the conclusions of being a respectful wife. It's not that he wants a Christian woman who just doesn't frequently attend church. Non-Christian would be ideal, but apparently in OP's experience it's not as easy to find feminine women outside of a church setting.
/r/RedPillWomen08/01/15 06:30 PM
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TRP's point is women suck at sports? I may be slap happy because I'm tired, but I had to really struggle not to laugh at this and disturb my trying-to-sleep husband, but I totally failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 04:32 AM
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You don't need to believe in God to have traditional values, but women with a belief in God who actually follow the bible are more likely to have those values. Ideally an atheist man would find a woman with the values but without the attached beliefs - I want to do this because I think it's right vs I want to do this because God wants me to. It just isn't always easy. It's not about Christianing too hard because being a submissive wife is only tangentially related.
/r/RedPillWomen08/01/15 03:46 AM
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All of the men in my family either were or are atheists, as far as I know they almost all have Christian wives. Their wives will force them to go to church and stuff and they play nice for their women, but when it's just "the boys" they sit around and talk about how stupid it all is. Some of them even go to church every single Sunday. I think they get away with it by not being very vocal types in the first place. I have sort of the same "tactic" with dealing with religious family members: plausi…
/r/RedPillWomen08/01/15 03:43 AM
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Don't forget Charlie Sheen called his ex-wife that in a voicemail, and she's totally white. ...sorry, I just really love Donald Glover.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 12:02 AM
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I like to imagine them as cute little naive things who don't know how to mobile app.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 12:00 AM
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I relate to this completely! He finally asked me to stay off of here for awhile to "reset" because I was making priorities he didn't care about and overdoing it in some areas so I had less time and energy for the areas he really wanted me to focus on. It's just something I have to keep in mind now.
/r/RedPillWomen07/01/15 07:24 PM
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That isn't really quantifiable so I'm not sure how to answer. I imagine it would vary from couple to couple. Too much and the partner will feel like they can never measure up and are a constant disappointment; too little and neither is inspired to work on the relationship and themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 07:04 PM
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I think dudes would be mighty disappointed to get on Grindr only to find me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:33 PM
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Trying to fuck within hours of meeting is a good indication.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:24 PM
1

Only if you date virgins AND fuck them only once.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:22 PM
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when in a LTR it's best not to think 'what is the RPW thing to do?' But instead 'what does my SO want/need from me?' EXACTLY. This needs to be highlighted and in bold. We can learn to have better attitudes here but when it comes to specifics if anything our SOs say or request contradicts something seen here, listen to your SO over an Internet forum. There is a lot to be learned here but it's important that we don't forget why we are doing this. It is for the betterment of our relationships, not …
/r/RedPillWomen07/01/15 01:15 PM
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I think that almost everyone acts differently at work than they do at home. That's just a completely normal part of life and there are several actresses in the spotlight who make millions but still prefer their husbands to be in charge. It's not really a contradiction or paradox at all. I have a disability and can no longer work full time so my husband will be the great bulk of our income, but this will be a big change. Recently he had no income at all, and for the first maybe two years we were …
/r/RedPillWomen07/01/15 01:09 PM
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You don't need to reply, I know the answer to that. I doubt it. We had already discussed the idiocy of the notion prior to your rude-ass nonsense, so I was already well aware of his opinion. We often discuss the stupider things brought up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 08:45 PM
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I do love to bring pies to parties, but a bar is hardly the appropriate setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 09:58 AM
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Yeah, my husband does not agree that all women are just waiting to become lesbians as soon as men start acting up or that all women could "become" lesbians even if they tried, because he is not a fucking idiot. Me: all women cannot become lesbians You: yes they can. All of them. Just ask your husband. You were trying to argue a point to me and then told me to just ask my husband to explain it to me. Why would you do that if you weren't trying to illustrate your point via my husband? How is that …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 09:57 AM
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I did once host my a dinner party for my own birthday at which I prepared a five course meal for everyone. No ragrets.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 09:55 AM
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People are generally happier when forced to work for something. A hobby, continued learning, self improvement, remaining the best you can be. I think both men and women are going to be happier with a partner who holds them to certain standards and encourages them to act as the highest version of themselves. In order to get a more "beta" man to act more alpha quite a bit is on the shoulders of the woman. Encouraging him to exhibit alpha behaviors by building him up and showing him respect and fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 01:47 AM
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Much giggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 01:37 AM
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I would go try to be really nice to everybody because I want people to like me and I'm way more likable in person than online.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 01:35 AM
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Well, in that case it sounds as though you've made your decision and should make that clear to your SO. I would be prepared for him to be bothered by it, though. Of course I don't know him or know that would be his reaction, but it would be a reasonable reaction.
/r/RedPillWomen05/01/15 08:40 PM
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Why would women want men who are that prudish and judgmental? Some women do because they want a man with certain values. That's why I said IF they want such a man they should consider that. If not then who the hell cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:33 PM
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Obviously depends on where you come from because that is not even slightly the case based on any of my personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:30 PM
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Does "ask your husband" not imply that you've already assumed his answer? Special snowflakes? The fuck are you talking about? Because I don't think all women have an identical sexual orientation means I think we are all special and unique? No. People just have different sexualities. Saying AWALT when it comes to changing their sexuality on a whim is just as stupid as saying All Women like broccoli but not carrots.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:29 PM
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A lot of gay people have slept with the opposite sex or been in LTRs. After all it's what you're "supposed" to want. Being like "hey, penetration can be awesome" is not the same thing as being attracted to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:24 PM
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Interesting that you would purport to know my husband's opinion. AWALT does not remotely mean all women are identical and you are being willfully dense to claim AWALT applies to anything any woman has ever done. You see a lot on TRP about how women are constantly turning into lesbians?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:15 PM
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All women are like what? Just waiting for an excuse to be lesbians?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:49 PM
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My husband and I went through the same thing and it was actually his sister who made a point that talked me into it. She just said you can live your life as an adult who chooses for themselves what is best for them or you can keep living under the thumb of people with different values than you have. Of course it's your decision but I am very against letting parents make your choices for you once you're an adult.
/r/RedPillWomen05/01/15 02:47 PM
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As far as I know there isn't an official RP stance on that. And I don't know. Because lesbians give dudes boners?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:26 PM
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Lesbians are judged less than gay men, but there is definitely still a stigma and issues they have to face.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:16 PM
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You're 27 years old and still letting your parents' conservative views determine what you do with your relationship? They'll get over it. It's your life. Live it as YOU want to. That said, I was personally uncomfortable living with my then-boyfriend without at least being engaged and was very clear with him on that. I trusted him enough that if I expressed this to him he wouldn't keep me waiting. You don't have to get stuck in relationship purgatory but you need to come to an agreement that marr…
/r/RedPillWomen05/01/15 01:55 PM
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Seconded. Ex was huge. Sex hurt EVERY time unless we stuck to a few specific positions and we were together for 3 years. If my vagina couldn't get used to a huge dick after 3 years I'm pretty sure it didn't stretch a whole lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:33 PM
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Most dudes REALLY care about their dicks, often to the point of neuroses.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:31 PM
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If they want one of those men they should care about their opinions. There's nothing wrong with having preferences or refusing to date anyone for any reason. That's your business. If you're sleeping around you should know the consequences. Some men don't like it and won't want you anymore. If that's a problem for you, don't do it. If not then why bother being offended in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:28 PM
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Why does a large amount of sex partners necessarily mean you are going to pine over one or more of those partners and miss your awesome former sex life once you're in a LTR? I agree that going out to orgies and fucking a bunch of rock stars or men way out of your league could cause you to become eventually dissatisfied with your average, non-rock star husband. But what if you have a relatively vanilla sex life and sleep with multiple average dudes without particularly high SMVs but then end up m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:24 PM
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I do not believe that the majority of people could enjoy a relationship with either gender. I believe that most people can have fleeting sexual thoughts about either gender but there is a BIG difference between a fantasy and the desire to act on it, let alone actually enjoy it if you do decide to try it out. A lot of gay men I know will have sex with women on occasion because "hey, it's a warm hole, it still feels good" but they have no actual attraction to the woman aside from appreciating her …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:08 PM
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Until I see any sort of evidence to support that claim I do not believe for one second that MOST people could be in happy and fulfilling relationships with either gender if they just "met the right person." Being able to appreciate the form of another person and having a "crush" on them does not necessarily mean you are bisexual. It's possible to have vague sexual thoughts about one gender or the other without having the remotest desire to act on those thoughts. I would say most people fall unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:01 PM
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Very true. Gay men have been far more hated than lesbians for most of history.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 04:02 AM
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I was just joking, but I've heard that's true and anecdotal experience sure looks that way. It's way more rare for guys in college to go through an "experimental stage" and have sex with a bunch of other dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 03:17 AM
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Haha, this made me LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:08 AM
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I've heard it said that all women are a couple of cocktails away from bisexual, but I don't think that rule applies so much to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:02 AM
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Yeah I don't think we really disagree, except that I was bothered by your word choice that sounds misleading to me or over-simplified. I had a personal reaction to it just because I've heard that word way too many times coming from homophobic people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:01 AM
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If you are BISEXUAL then it is obviously your choice to be with either a man or a woman. The point is that most people aren't bisexual. If I could choose my sexuality I would decide to be straight in a heartbeat. If I had chosen to marry a woman I wouldn't have chosen to be a lesbian. I would still be bisexual but married to a woman instead of a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:54 AM
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I do find myself really missing being with men sometimes, but at the end of the day, it just isn't worth the hassle and judgement. I'm really not even trying to attack you, but I really want to know what region of the world you're in. To me a place where there is less judgment for being gay than there is for sleeping with multiple men sounds like an absolute fairy tale land. Did you really honestly experience more hostility when you were with men? Once again, I'm not saying that I think you're l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:50 AM
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I believe that sexuality is a spectrum as well. However the majority of people don't identify as bisexual. The majority of the population is far enough on one side or the other of that spectrum to make them willing to even consider a romantic relationship with someone outside their normal chosen sex. Most people don't just bounce all around the spectrum as their life goes on. Most people cannot choose the gender they are primarily attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:42 AM
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It's threatening because statements like the one you have made here are what perpetrate the disrespect of gay people and their rights. Statements like the one above are what lead to "make a choice" or "you should choose differently and if you don't you are going to hell." Your overall story is pretty innocuous, but saying you "became" a lesbian is what I find shitty. You were attracted to both women and men. You chose to be with women instead of men. I chose to marry a man but I didn't "become" …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:38 AM
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It's not bullshit for you to choose to be with women any more than it's bullshit for me to say I'm bisexual and be married to a man. I have no problem with that at all. What bothers me is the perpetration of the idea that gays can just decide to be straight if they want to or vice versa. Sexuality is a spectrum, yes, but you are painting this picture that a large number of women are just going to "decide" to be gay because being a lesbian is somehow easier than being slut shamed. I think that is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:25 AM
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I guess that happens too. People use the word bisexual because it's easier, but there's a difference between being bisexual and being willing to fool around with someone of the opposite gender you normally choose because you're drunk or bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:18 AM
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I am bisexual and incredibly goddamn tired of anyone telling me I need to "pick a side" as though that is the way it works. This post only feeds into that notion. So yes, I am very bothered by this on a personal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:15 AM
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OP is talking about her CHOICE to "become" a lesbian. I am personally far more bothered by that statement than "a girl who's taken 40 dicks is unfit for marriage." Would you not say that the double standard of lesbian sex not being "real sex" is a problem more to do with antiquated views on homosexuality that show no respect for lesbian women because clearly they're just confused or haven't met the right man? It is not the fault of TRP that lesbian sex isn't considered real sex, and to say more …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:13 AM
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Thank you. For the love of god. "Became" a lesbian? What a load of horse shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:56 AM
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Are we REALLY making the argument here that mean old "society" looks down on you judges you less for being GAY than for sleeping around??? Whining about how it's not fair that you can't take 40 dicks without someone calling you a slut when gays can't even get married in most states in the US and are fucking beaten to death in some places, often even in the developed world. Jesus fucking Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:51 AM
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People being mean :( Because NO ONE faces any judgment for being in a homosexual relationship. Flawless goddamn logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:41 AM
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If you are straight and get married it's not like you suddenly become unable to be sexually attracted to other members of the opposite sex. It's the same with being bisexual. You can choose not to act on your sexual impulses with other people and be a faithful partner, but those desires don't just stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:37 AM
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do redpill men realize their rhetoric reinforces this kind of choice? Do they care? This is ridiculous and frankly very irritating. Not only are you an exception but you are a very extreme exception. Bisexual women exist and will always exist, and whether or not they end up with a man or a woman depends on many different factors, often very personal ones. A straight woman is not going to go running into the arms of another female because she will be called slutty if she fucks too many men. Essen…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:33 AM
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I should have known this name would haunt me for the rest of my reddit life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 08:19 PM
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I really don't know. There's zero logical reason for me to find it gross, I just find it extremely unattractive visually. Maybe part of it is that I am quite tiny and I like the idea of possibly having kids that at least somewhat look like me, but that's just an attempt to rationalize a feeling that existed regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 07:25 PM
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If you saw my response looking at a ripped dude like that you would believe me. It is a visceral disgust. I'm grossed out just thinking about it. A dude with huge muscles is gross to me like a land whale is to most men. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate some muscle definition, but think Bruce Lee and not Vin Diesel. Skinny dudes with muscle tone are hot as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 07:06 PM
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I'm afraid of turning out like my mom so for me it's a HUGE motivator. If I find myself thinking "my mom would do something like this" I run in the opposite direction. It's a lot harder when you grow up thinking that irrational and cruel behavior is normal.
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/15 07:03 PM
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I hope I didn't come across as too harsh. It's just a subject that is very close to my heart and I feel very passionate about. I know that at least with bipolar there are often times when you are tempted to say "I'm better, I don't need to worry about it anymore," but unfortunately it just isn't true. Best of luck on getting back on track!
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/15 07:00 PM
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My mom is undiagnosed but has some strong indicators of BPD and I learned at a very young age to ignore her when she cries. I would hear her sobbing in her room and turn up the TV. I couldn't help and was more likely to be guilt tripped if I tried anyway. OP needs to think about why she's crying in the first place. If you're crying "just because" then go in a different room and pull yourself together because it's no one else's job to deal with your incessant weeping that comes and goes based on …
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/15 05:21 PM
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Shit, I'm crazy too, but how long have you actively been putting forth effort to fix this? When I noticed my bipolar causing issues in my relationship I contact my doctor to let them know what's going on immediately, and I turn myself over to my husband. I tell him I can't think rationally and I need him to be my brain for a moment. Follow orders without being a bitch about it, and hopefully after some intense self reflection and perhaps a medication change and exercise you will be clear headed …
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/15 05:11 PM
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:)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 01:24 AM
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I would be more concerned if he had had a lot of partners indiscriminately but expressed never using protection, or if there was a high number from short-lived relationships, or if the high number came from a lifestyle of drugs and parties where he's woken up to several strange women he never speaks to again.
/r/RedPillWomen01/01/15 05:37 PM
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Statistically men with a high partner count are damaged along the same lines as women with a high partner count. But statistics aren't everything. It's not just a roll of the dice. You can get to know someone and understand their ethics behind sex. A very high count might be a red flag, but I wouldn't call it just yet based on a man's number alone.
/r/RedPillWomen01/01/15 04:54 PM
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Woman: stripper whether former or current is fine. Maybe even a plus, but that depends. No on prostitutes or porn stars. Being a stripper is putting her boobs in some guys' faces and going home for the night. No big. Man: no, no, and no. In theory I wouldn't mind a man stripping, I just have never found a male stripper remotely attractive. Their bodies usually gross me out if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 07:06 AM
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So confidently assigning personality disorders to people you've never met or spoken to is completely, for lack of a better word, gross. Particularly when it comes to a simple matter of attraction. There are few types of people more irritating than armchair psychologists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 12:00 AM
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It was about me trying to engage in silly, lighthearted banter and clearly failing miserably.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 11:46 PM
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Stop taking me seriously goddamn it! I was trying to joke around. Fail. Got it, ya buttheads.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 11:42 PM
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Sorry, I just can't resist the opportunity to make myself giggle at a bad hipster joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 11:05 PM
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This isn't TRP. I can throw my estrogen around wherever I want. No reason to be all serious and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 11:03 PM
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Wow, and you're handing out these insightful diagnoses on the house?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 10:41 PM
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Defend his honor by insisting that he is indeed as hipster as he claims? You have a weird sense of "honor."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 10:35 PM
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Pro tip: coming out the gate like a totally hostile dickhead does not lend itself well to productive conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 10:28 PM
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I think it just depends on your standard for what constitutes rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 10:27 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with cold approaching a woman to show your interest. The problem arises when you don't leave with some grace and dignity. I've had random dudes come up to hit on me that I hadn't noticed until they spoke to me and had good interactions, and of course I've had guys come up and totally weird me out. What weirds me out isn't simply being approached, even if the dude is an uggo who smells bad. It gets weird when they linger after I try to nicely end the conversation. If I …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 10:17 PM
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Man, I don't care what you say. If you continue to hover around a girl who is clearly not interested you are creepy. There's a difference between approaching a woman and cutting your losses if she isn't into it and refusing to walk away from her until she walks first.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 10:12 PM
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If you are that persistent and have an over-inflated sense of confidence and self worth you can often get a girl to have sex with you that she doesn't really enjoy much, but if you're operating on a "doesn't matter had sex" thought process then that would be fine anyway. Girls with low self esteem are more likely to not stand up for themselves and force a dude to take no for an answer. So, I imagine this approach would work sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 10:09 PM
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TRP is useful in keeping marriages and LTRs healthy and happy. That certainly goes beyond a PUA tactic. My husband isn't trying to get me to go home with him using a few one liners in a bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 10:01 PM
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How would you know that just from his posts on PPD? This isn't really the place to wave your hipster flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 09:43 PM
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My town seems to have a lot of feminists, and it seems like they are the most likely to want to split the check instead of having the guy pay, but often I hear the argument that they do this so the guy doesn't "expect anything" in return for a free meal. Have you ever tried to split the check and have a girl get mad? That's just so weird to me. I've had guys get upset that I tried to pay my half, but I couldn't imagine going on a date and the other party not being prepared to pay for themselves …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 07:32 PM
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How so? Are you just repeating my argument or do my opinions seem contradictory somewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 07:28 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/WQp2TKV.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 04:17 PM
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Hahahaha, you're welcome
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 04:14 PM
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I'll believe it when I see it. Men want validational sex too, which you can't get from a robot. Maybe if they start programming sexbots to make gourmet meals, do the housework, and grow babies in an artificial womb. Even then it'll be the men who women don't want anyway who buy them. Could be bad for unattractive women who would have otherwise settled for a subpar dude since that's all they could get.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 03:16 PM
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Ew, a sex robot for women creeps me out. Especially since there are only limited positions that would even be possible. I mean if he's on top am I supposed to pull on his creepy robot buttcheeks to simulate thrusting? Nooo thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 03:10 PM
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I don't remember and it isn't printed on it. I'll have to ask my husband since he found it. I think it may be more helpful to find a tutorial specific to the type of wheel I have. I hope, anyway. It's been sitting there in my craft room mocking me! ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 03:08 PM
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So what would make drunk consent laws better? How much alcohol it takes to be too drunk to consent is going to vary massively from person to person. I can't think of any objective standard of soberness that could be used, unless the law decides it's rape if any alcohol has been consumed at all, which I think most would agree is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 03:06 PM
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Right. I haven't found the count itself to be particularly indicative of anything, but you can find out a lot more about the person based in their surrounding ethics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 03:03 PM
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do you want to have kids? Yes, absolutely. I don't believe in god or any sort of afterlife, and I think our legacy (usually children) is the only way we can live on. I am also a natural nurturer. how do your red pill or non red pill views enter into this decision? I don't really think they do at all. if you have kids, is it important that your children share your red pill or non red pill views? That topic wouldn't come up for quite some time. I'm not going to direct them toward RP literature, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 02:54 PM
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Oh Jesus Christ, what does this even have to do with the topic at hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 02:44 PM
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If you are passed out someone can slap you in the face and you'll still stay "asleep." As in unconscious. If you are black out drunk you may be up walking around and chatting with people like normal. In order to be considered passed out you must be unconscious. If you are awake and conscious and speaking you could be blacked out. Having sex with someone who is for all intents and purposes in a coma is rape. Having sex with someone who is blackout drunk is not rape unless the person says "no" or …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 02:37 PM
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I've only been blackout drunk a small handful of times, but when it's happened I've never passed out or been incoherent. Apparently I've had conversations and despite some slurred words my friends didn't realize I was far enough gone that I wouldn't remember anything the next day. It's absolutely possible for someone to make the honest mistake of bedding someone who is blackout drunk without realizing they're beyond the capability of consent, and it happens more than you'd think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 02:28 PM
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And THAT is why we need laws surrounding having sex with intoxicated persons. We already have those laws. Are you calling for more laws in addition? My POINT was that people are not advised not to take bags, wallets and watches out with them on the streets. Clearly we are not from the same place. I learned from a young age that depending upon where you go you need to keep all of your belongings close to your body and out of plain sight. That was drilled in my head ever since I was a kid old enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 02:21 PM
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I'm late to the game here, but I'll be damned if I'm going to miss an opportunity to talk about crocheting. It's my favorite thing ever. I've been doing it since I was 5 and it's one of the only things I'm confident to say I am REALLY good at, and better at than most people who do it as a hobby. I also like experimenting with loads of different bright colors on my hair, usually on a whim.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 02:08 PM
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I could never be a switch no matter how intriguing the idea because I have NO medium setting, for absolutely anything. It would either be "shit, sorry, you are totally going to need stitches now because I went way overboard," or "is this too much? Are you okay?!" anxiety the whole time. Well, and I'm married now and topping with a dude who could murder me with his bare hands with ease is just sort of a comical notion to me. I don't think a lot of people realize the amount of work it takes to Dom…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 02:04 PM
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My husband got me a spinning wheel for my birthday a couple of years ago and I still haven't figured out how to use the darn thing. I can never seem to get the tension right. I crochet constantly and would love to make something with yarn I created myself, but I always end up wanting to fly into a rage because of frustration and give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 01:56 PM
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Who are some of your favorite artists and/or bands?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 01:53 PM
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Is this question meant for men specifically? For me partner count doesn't matter unless they got to that number by cheating on their girlfriends. Cheating in the past is a red flag. Having a lot of sex in the past is not (necessarily).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 01:43 PM
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Feminism does not insist on the man paying. I guess I have heard women saying the man should pay, but they were all in their mid-40s or older. In my experience that expectation is not the standard anymore. Until now I always made more money than anyone I ever dated save for one, so if I wanted to go somewhere expensive I paid for both of us since I had the money for it and they didn't. And I'm not a feminist. Feminism or not that trend is dying out, and I've never heard of any feminist trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 01:33 PM
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Perhaps, but less stupid than worrying about a loose vagina due to not realizing how they work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 01:26 PM
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The majority of us are already married or in relationships. There isn't a whole lot of discussion on the man to pick, but more about how to have a happy relationship with the one you've already got, or for the single ladies: how to become "the one" instead of searching for "the one."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 03:47 AM
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In the mental sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 03:43 AM
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I always bought something inexpensive just in case they insisted on paying, but brought enough money to at least cover my portion of the bill. I'm not sure why it needs to be any more complicated than that. Any more concern for it than that is bordering on neurotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 03:40 AM
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Because that's fucking weird, that's why. Go with the intention of paying for yourself and if the other party insists on picking up the check be gracious about it. That's the general rule of thumb myself and every single woman I've spoken to on the subject. There are plenty of gripes to have with feminism, but I don't think insisting on having their meals paid for on a date is one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 03:37 AM
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I am so very sorry to hear this. I can't even imagine the hurt you must be going through. I definitely second Tempest's advice to get a lawyer ASAP. Judging from your past posts it seems that your husband was going through some emasculation issues with failing his family and likely sought validation somewhere else. Relationships that start due to emotional turmoil or a crisis almost never work out. I would be shocked if it lasted long enough for divorce proceedings to even go all the way through…
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/14 03:35 PM
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Well said, that does seem to be the crux of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 01:40 AM
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I'm not sure if this counts since it isn't related to a particular relationship, but for me getting over years of sexual abuse is what allowed me to have any sort of happy relationship at all. RP has helped my marriage tremendously, but my means of being able to be in a relationship at all couldn't possibly be any less RP. I have a high partner count because I wanted to feel in control of my own sexuality and know that I was the one making the choice to be with that person and not the other way …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 12:55 AM
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Okay? You don't have to be a RPW to be a good wife (especially considering most wives all over the planet haven't even heard of TRP or RPW). We just encourage these good behaviors. I'm not really sure what you're getting at as I already said that a lot of it is basic decency and not unique to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 09:47 PM
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Pardon?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 09:22 PM
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One of the reasons I don't understand the level of hate or disdain for RPW is that a lot of it is about common courtesy for your SO. Most of the stuff we talk about in there is not unique to RPW. It's not this crazy new movement with all these new and original ideas. It's advice that was the standard for my grandmother and her mother before her. Some women need more help than others, but it's basically just a group of women trying to improve ourselves and be better mates, and sometimes that does…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 08:55 PM
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It really isn't that simple. A small and specific type and amount of nurturing for my husband provides the "beta comfort" feelings that are essential to a marriage. It's about having a good mix of sexy and safety, which varies from woman to woman. Making him look good in public and seeing the confidence boost he gets makes me feel close to him and like I'm important, which can be a turn on when it's like this special little insight that only I get and I have that rare glimpse into his vulnerable…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 08:32 PM
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Nicest thing anyone can ever say to me. My work here is done.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 07:51 PM
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I am an atheist but still think the bible has some really good things to say about marriage. This was a great post - thanks for sharing.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/14 07:19 PM
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It's hard to be productive when I'm in pajamas and a fun-bun, so I put on real clothes and brush my hair to get myself in a better mindset. Me too! When I'm trying to get things done sometimes I just can't into it, so I'll take a shower and fix my hair and makeup and it magically gets my head in the game, even if no one is around.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 06:44 PM
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Yes, they do. But keep in mind that for most of those women they aren't truly unseen all day. They don't wear those in front of their families or female friends. It's pretty popular, at least in Saudi, to have hair and makeup parties where the women all hang out dolled up and dressed to the nines. Source: I have a friend who lived there for a few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 06:39 PM
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A lot of makeup and clothing I wear are not going to be sexy to the majority of men. I think I look hot, but it's a turn off for a lot of men, unless they happen to be into really "punk" or goth-looking women. If anything I'm making myself LESS attractive to the general public. But I like to be able to control how I'm perceived. I do my hair and makeup based on my mood. It's always in a way that makes me feel sexy, but I might not feel like being approachable so I'll dress up in such a way that …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 06:32 PM
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Yes, they absolutely do. There is still a large hair and makeup industry in Saudi. I used to be a hairstylist and was always surprised by the varied amount of styles worn and requested by women who wear hijabs. Some of them even had super brightly colored hair and scene kid haircuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 06:21 PM
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I look like a pile of dog poo 90% of the time when I'm not going to be around my husband. I feel good about myself when he thinks I'm pretty. I also look nice when I go to see my family because they are always talking about how glamorous I am and how beautiful, and if I showed up without my makeup and hair done I would feel like a fraud and like I'm disappointing them. I know that isn't really true, but I've been known as the pretty one and it feels like part of my identity now when it comes to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 05:58 PM
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This is an absolutely perfect answer. No woman is going to behave like a "unicorn" without the right man for whom she can change her behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 05:50 PM
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You're absolutely correct. And this has been gone over so many times in this sub that the only response I can really give you is an eye roll.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 05:40 PM
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I wasn't intending to make an equivalency. I was only responding to the above comment. He or she said that RPW are not aggressive like RP men are, and I was saying that's silly to even bring up because obviously our goals cannot be met by being aggressive. I wasn't trying to say anything at all about TRP, and agree that if you have to be that aggressive you are probably doing RP wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 01:27 AM
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What? In what sort of happy relationship does a woman use cruel manipulation tactics and what does that have to do with solipsism? I don't understand your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 12:38 AM
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I've foregone a lot of positive qualities in favor of having an awesome dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 09:02 PM
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I am a fucking fantastic wife, to the right man. I probably wasn't a super great SO to past boyfriends. I was never awful, but my relationships were always forced and that's never a good thing. I would not be good "relationship material" to a man who doesn't like to be showered with attention or who wants to lead an active social life. If there's one thing I'm proud of and always strive to stay on top of, it's my wifery skills as specifically pertaining to my husband and not a vague and broad id…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 07:52 PM
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That's quite the conspiracy theory. Is it really hard to believe that in an Internet forum accessible to people all over the English-speaking developed world you would find a group of women who want a male-led relationship? I guess I have no way of being certain that my fellow RPW are who they claim to be, but I really don't see a whole lot of unbelievable contributions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 07:03 PM
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Because people in this sub say super stupid and misinformed bullshit about RPW all of the time, and I had no idea that you weren't serious. I wasn't attempting to give a negative critique of your comedy skills. I am laughing at this reply, though...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 06:15 PM
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99% of men I've dated or really encountered are BP. I just couldn't develop and/or maintain attraction to them. That's about it. Nothing more interesting than that. Unsatisfying relationships or platonic friendships. Whether or not someone has BP or RP beliefs gives no insight into whether or not I like them or enjoy their company. A BP person just wouldn't be compatible with me sexually. Why would it be anything deeper than that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 05:31 PM
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RPW do not want to be dominatrixes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 05:28 PM
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By keeping them locked up in the house with no access to a phone, internet, or vehicle, destroying most of their clothing and hygiene products so that they couldn't go to a job interview even if they managed to sneak away and catch a bus even knowing they will face further abuse by disobeying. I am saying this because that scenario is something I have personally witnessed. I don't think that financial abuse is a stand alone thing. It can be an additional means to abuse someone who is already fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 04:44 PM
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I'm only stating what is abuse and what is not. While entirely misrepresenting or willfully misunderstanding my opinions on what constitutes abuse. I very clearly stated that the only way it is abuse is if you are not only refusing to provide for your spouse but making it impossible for them to provide for themselves. Completely denying them both resources AND the ability to obtain their own resources, making it so the ONLY way they can possibly access things they need for survival or human dign…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 04:01 PM
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True. You are never going to get a sizable group of women together to talk candidly about manipulation tactics. It's always going to be disguised in some other way. The same exact advice may be given, but instead of "lie to him and say you're still on birth control so you can trick him into getting you pregnant" it's "well, by marrying you it's not like you can have kids with anyone else, so it's not even fair for him to make that decision. He doesn't have to worry about a biological clock, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 07:36 AM
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That's RPW, minus the maintaining dominance bit. It's not hard to maintain dominance as a woman. You can find any number of men who will let you run roughshod over them as long as you are decent looking. It's about knowing what you want and working on tools to get it. If what you want is a happy and fulfilling relationship with a good man I don't think nefarious attempts at manipulation would possibly come into play.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 07:29 AM
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