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DiscussionBandit174/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:33 PM
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YASS KWEENS!!💅Bandit174/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 08:05 PM
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Tater TotsBandit174/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:17 AM
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PURGE WEEKBandit174/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:15 PM
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DiscussionBandit174/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:57 PM
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Purge week!Bandit174/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:24 PM
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Purge week!Bandit174/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 06:21 PM
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Purge week!Bandit174/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:39 AM
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Purge Discussion!Bandit174/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:17 PM
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Question For WomenBandit174/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:51 PM
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apparently mods still get to see people's post histories tho
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:20 PM
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I miss when reddit allowed you to just see people's post histories. You could find some juicy stuff without even searching that far back. It also let's you know how seriously to take them if aren't familiar with their username yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:12 PM
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Its basically the worst of both worlds if you aren't casual sex material. You get all of the negatives of traditional dating in that you still have to earn more money, pay for the dates and wait a while before she sleeps with you. But you dont get a modest woman, you get a woman who had sex immediately with the guys who were hot enough to have casual sex. A lot of women even multidate now and have a fwbs on the side while they are making the non-casual sex guys pay to take her on dates. So you e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:17 PM
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Thats true but the guys who have lots of casual sex are also the least likely to end up in deadbedroom marriages. They get to have their pick of the litter and are pretty much garanteed a woman who finds him physically attractive. For other guys, marriage isn't as good of a deal necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:13 PM
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were they tall tall or just barely 6ft
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:04 AM
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were the guys you dated who you didn't find attractive sub 5s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:51 AM
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I thought you were black pill
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:39 AM
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Sure but we know women find most men unattractive so theres going to be more women in marriages with unattractive men than women in marriages with attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:32 AM
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oh, I thought it would have come up during "girl talk"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:55 AM
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proof deadbedroom = woman not attracted to partner
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:54 AM
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What would be a more suitable sub? If I had a free use arrangement, ppd would be the first sub I'd want to talk about it on
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:53 AM
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Do you think thats common among other high sex drive women? I was having a convo with some friends about this topic and I was asked my ideal frequency and I basically said the same as you (1 - 2 times per day on avg) and they acted like I was crazy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:52 AM
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what's your ideal frequency?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:46 AM
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This feels like a humble brag
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:42 AM
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He could still find tall white guys to bang him
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:43 AM
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You're delusional if you think that. The vast majority of men are not going to knowingly pay for dates and seriously pursue a woman whiles shes actively sleeping with another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:09 AM
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I dont understand the guys who insist on paying. If the woman pays and sleeps with you thats like a double win
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:01 AM
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its the OG shit test
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:57 AM
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as a test to see if wed prove our devotion to him
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:56 AM
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Well Icy_Ad_4544 seems to think its unreasonable to care about that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:55 AM
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Im maybe a bit more nuanced than op. I think there is a difference between ugly and beautiful women. However I think the difference between attractive and non-attractive men is greater. I also think the thresholds for being deemed ugly vs attractive are drastically different too. A woman needs to have serious genetic defects to be viewed as ugly meanwhile a man only needs to be around average or just slightly below for women to view him as ugly. Similarly most women can qualify as beautiful but …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:06 AM
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What do you mean towards asian women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:02 AM
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A guy doesn't need to be ugly to not have a roster. If you ran a poll on ask men or some other male sub do you honestly think most guys are ok paying for dates and pursuing a woman with an active fuckbuddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:57 PM
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The point is women assume every guy is able to have a roster with a fwbs on the side like they do. Its not calling dibs its just wanting the girl to be properly single. If Im paying for dates while shes getting railed by a fwbs on the side Id rather A) Spend my money dating a different girl who isn't doing that or B) Try to be the fwbs guy and avoid that whole traditional guy pays to take woman on serious date bs altogether I really doubt my opinion on this is unpopular among guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:31 PM
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You're proving my point lol also this further highlights why its best to be the fwbs guy vs the guy paying to take her on dates while shes getting railed by someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:07 PM
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same
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:42 PM
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exactly my point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:35 PM
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I dont think his point was that high iq men do better in dating. I think his point was just like theres more men at the extremes for iq theres also more men at the extremes for sexual success i.e the most promiscuous people are men and the most hopelessly alone people are also men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:30 PM
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I agree. The other day I saw a post on a different sub where a guy was complaining how the girl he went on a date with had a fwbs on the side and was going on dinner dates with 2 other guys in addition to him and all the women in the comments were like "this is normal all guys are multidating with a fwbs on the side too"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:27 PM
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darn, I should have had you proofread it before posting 😓
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:05 PM
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How are you defining casual sex when you say most women haven't had it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:32 PM
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Among your social circle most of the women have never used dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:28 PM
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Just because some men on a reddit thread said they wouldn't swipe on her doesn't mean she wouldn't get matches on the apps. Theres been plenty of dating experiments with fake profiles of fat women showing that even fat women get lots of likes and matches. And the woman you are talking about is supposedly curvey not full blown obese. But to answer your root question... The difference between men and women is primarily down to 2 things Men's attractiveness is rooted more in immutable characteristi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:06 PM
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Instead of it being binary I'd phrase it more as luke warm attraction or more of an emotional attraction rather than physical. So she's not disgusted by her boyfriend but shes also not as passionately attracted to his physical appearance as she was to her more conventionaly attractive casual sex partners. Id say most women fall under this umbrella. Basically any woman who is in a relationship with a guy that isn't at least a 7/10 per womens standards and as we know women rate most men as below a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:22 PM
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I really dont think getting rid of porn changes that. Most of those views comes from personal experiences and social media not porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:07 PM
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If you're choosing someone just for sex you'll be more picky on looks than when you are choosing someone to live with and raise a family with Also its easier for women to find a tall hot guy to have casual sex with them than it is to find a tall hot guy who wants to commit to them. Thats why most women have had casual sex with tall hot guys but only a small minority of women end up married to a tall hot guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:57 PM
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lol yeah back in their day hoes had to take low res pics on a polaroid and then wait weeks for them to be developed before walking up an icy hill to hand the picture to the guy in person 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:30 PM
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Does it? I thought it often involves lack of clarity/ambiguous lines. Thats why women often ask the cliche questions "how do I know what we are", "how do I get my situationship to want more" ect
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:24 PM
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For a relationship they are pickier on things like character and wealth and investment. However for casual sex I think they are pickier on looks/raw sex appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:18 PM
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I think part of the issue is the term itself does sound like it happens in a narrow timeline. Like if I was comming into this blind and asked what I thought it meant I'd think it referred to a one night stand or maybe really short fling. Something lasting months is more situationship. That said I agree that all count as casual sex in that the guy usually doesn't intend to take them seriously in any of these situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:16 PM
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Porn restrictions are because of dumb religious boomers and tech companies looking for excuses to track us even more than they already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:58 PM
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I agree there needs to be similarities and there are. Like I said they are all examples of sexual choices made in someones past that cause potential partners to feel an ick and look at you differently. Its not apples to horses.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:51 PM
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no worries, honest mistake 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:48 PM
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Thats part of the point. Women are pickier about casual sex than men are so the men she does have casual sex with had to pass a higher threshold on his physical traits in order to be worth having casual sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:47 PM
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Things dont have to be litterally identical in order for them to be comparable. You're just doing that classic feminist thing where conveniently all of women's preferences are justified but when it comes to men's well then it doesn't count
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:45 PM
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Im not wrong. Its common sense that looks impact arousal and studies have shown women orgasm more with facially attractive men. Same with dick size, bigger is usually rated more favorably. If it didn't matter women wouldn't even have preferences on it or talk about it like they do. Women can easily have sex with tall hot well endowed men for casual sex but only a fraction of those women get married to a similar caliber guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:42 PM
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They are comparable in that they are both aspects of a persons sexual past that if known often cause potential partners to change how they see and feel about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:36 PM
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First Im talking about in general. There's always exceptions. It would be like if I say "humans have 5 fingers on each hand" and then someone replies "you're wrong I have 6" Secondly Im not only referring to face. When I say physically Im including height, physique and dick size. So my point was more if a guy is not noticeably above average on any of those traits then hes incredibly unlikely to be better than the guys his wife/gf had access to for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:33 PM
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I agree which is why it's probably more valuable to find out if shes had casual sex or not instead of the overall n count. Also if she can honestly say shes never had fwbs, one night stands, situationships ect then her number is unlikely to be high anways.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:27 PM
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I mean, would women actually find it more flattering to be referred to as hookup material?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:48 PM
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I think the better scenario if hes trying to appeal to women is if her bf had slept with prostitutes and/or was bisexual and slept with men those are scenarios that often causes the ick in women similar to how women's past often causea an ick in men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:42 PM
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likewise
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:39 PM
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lol, This response makes so much more sense now 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:35 PM
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The casual sex guys will often have a lot more experience and likely be better looking ect.. Are u still in the discord group? I am, yes :) I don't recognize your username. Is there a different one I would remember
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:30 PM
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Neither? Once a woman has a high bodycount the damage is already done so it doesn't really matter if she stops or not. Or is it to have sex with the men they reject? I don't think any guy believes women will start having sex with guys they reject as a result of shaming their bodycount. When women shame men for not meeting their standards is there necessarily a goal? or are they just expressing their preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:25 PM
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Why wouldn't you want to be your partners best? I agree its unrealistic tho because any guy who is physically average basically has zero chance of being better than the guys his wife had access to for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:21 PM
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Is he the type who has slept around a lot? iirc youve posted about him cheating on you, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:13 PM
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so your current husband wouldn't have cared at all if you had group sex prior?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:02 PM
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Dating app stats pretty consistently show a small % of men getting the lions share of all the matches. This suggests quite a bit of overlap in what different women are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:55 PM
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So if a woman doesn't want to date a man because of his bodycount its just a preference and completely ok but if a man doesn't want to date a woman because of her bodycount its "basing someone's humanity on bodycount" and wrong ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:52 PM
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They can but are not as likely to. The point isn't that its impossible for women to get fed up with an attractive guy, its that the threshold for what makes her fed up is completely different so a guy shes not attracted to will have to work significantly harder to avoid her getting bored/annoyed with him in marriage than an attractive guy would.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:29 PM
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I mean its good for the woman I guess but sucks for the man who gets stuck wifing her up. Its basically classic AF/BB
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:23 PM
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into a strategic macroeconomic move is even more hilarious Is it not logical? If you're in a competition that you aren't equipped to compete in it makes sense to switch to a different league where you're more adapted. Notice how passport bro flight itineraries always map to developing nations rather than countries with a comparable or higher GDP, proving it's less about finding a soulmate and more about the fact that you can't find women who want you so you gotta look for women who need you I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:17 PM
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Why does it matter if it was just for short term dating? The implications of that are arguably worse than if those are the longterm standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:49 PM
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ok let's try this hypothetical imagine if your husband had a different personality where you didn't want a relationship so would a guy with the same looks as your husband but a worse personality have been attractive enough to have casual sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:04 AM
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True. There's definitely a rich get richer sort of dynamic where even women who don't typically go for casual sex still make exceptions for the same super experienced guys that all the other women are making their exceptions for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:57 PM
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Imo its not necessarily about virgin / not virgin. Its would you have found your husband attractive enough to hookup with had you met him during your promiscuous phase and does he have similar physical traits compared to the guys you were sleeping with in your promiscuous phase if you can't easily answer yes to both questions then I think the people who say your husband wasn't your first choice have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:32 PM
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the memes are good too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:27 PM
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lol Not in those exact words but sometimes yes they will essentially admit to it just indirectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:26 PM
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Mormon?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:47 PM
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ikr lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:43 PM
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Sometimes women do talk about their sexual past here so its not that crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:42 PM
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incels cant win create women hating sub: get made fun of create wizard larping sub: still gets made fun of
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:34 PM
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No, I mean did the person who said your husband wasn't your first choice know anything about your sexual history?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:32 PM
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I think they have a point if she had a hoe phase and the husband doesn't have similar physical traits to the guys she had casual sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:29 PM
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So he said it without anything about your sexual history being known?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:28 PM
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It honestly makes me laugh that you guys think that good-looking men getting the lions share of women’s attention is somehow a new thing. Its not new but dating apps likely makes it more severe than in the past. Also, plenty of women still try to deny and gaslight men about this reality. Whenever the manosphere talks about women sleeping with the same minority of conventionally attractive guys, women seem incapable of aknowleging it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:56 PM
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Being an ugly guy that a woman settles for and dead-bedrooms after spending her 20s having sex with men she was actually attracted to isnt the happy ending women try to make it out to be
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:52 PM
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but it is very common to see a beautiful woman with an ugly man Part of that is just that women rate most men as ugly and most wommen as attractive. A fat woman with a fat man will be viewed as an attractive woman with an ugly guy. A skinny woman and a skinny man again will be viewed as a attractive woman with an ugly man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:49 PM
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On the apps, just on height alone women probably reject 40 - 60% of men. You're doing the same thing you are accusing me of doing just in reverse. You think Im exaggerating how high womens standards are. You're exaggerating how low they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:46 PM
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And maybe just maybe they are desperate because no one finds them physically attractive enough to have sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:42 PM
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I don't think it would be any different in real life. I still think a guy expressing a preference towards a lower bodycount would get more shame irl than a woman would for being promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:37 PM
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Its because women want to maintain the narrative that beauty standards are harsher for women than for men and they also don't want to admit guys from the manosphere are correct when they say the rise in singleness is because of women's standards on men's looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:31 PM
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You're probably leaving out context from the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:24 PM
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even ugly women would likely have it worse being an ugly man
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:22 PM
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just highlights how much easier it is for women to be viewed as attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:13 PM
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There's way more overlap than there is disagreement. If women really had such diverse tastes the dating app stats wouldn't look like they do and there wouldn't be that "some men drown while others die of thirst" dynamic with dating. There are very clearly sets of traits women almost universally like and other traits women almost universally dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:11 PM
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On the first, I think its just that women have an ungodly amount of choice in the dating market so if they are complaining about being mistreated by assholes thats entirely on them. And then for simps, it's annoying seeing guys ignoring their self interest and giving women treatment they dont deserve. Women do the exact same thing with pickmes. They are shaming other women for giving special treatment to men who other women view as undeserving of that treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:07 PM
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see so its a non-issue
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:28 PM
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do you actually think the typical man has similar quality and quantity of options for casual sex to what women have access to? Pretty much all sex work (prostitution, onlyfans ect) is women selling to men not men selling to women. If men actually had the same options women do for sex, we wouldn't see that discrepancy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:06 PM
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Women are far more picky than men are especially for casual sex. So the end result will be that the % of men who meet a given woman's standards for casual sex will be significantly lower than the percentage of women who meet a given mans standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:02 PM
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I think its probably accurate to say that nowadays men are shamed more for even caring about a woman's bodycount than woman are for having a high bodycount.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:41 PM
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Part of that is likely that the women those guys date put ultimatums on the relationship that they want to be married within x number of years. Meanwhile women who get divorced and want to just fuck no strings attached will have no problem finding men who are ok with that arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:27 PM
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Also most women online claim that no one even asks them about their bodycounts irl. Women want to have it both ways where they are supposedly shamed for their sexual past but also where they've never actually been rejected for it irl. They also want to have it both ways where beauty standards are supposedly so much harsher and unrealistic for women meanwhile they all go on about how less than 5% of men meet their standards for physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:15 PM
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The difference is most women do offer that fantasy to certain men so when a man gets into a relationship he has to not only accept he never got to experience that fantasy but also that his wife/gf enabled those fantasies for other men. Meanwhile the woman probably isn't going to be with a guy who flew his exes out to exotic locations and worshiped them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:31 AM
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Male attractiveness is heavily ruled by the hierarchy of bigger is better so tall, wide shoulders, big dick are what's viewed as masculine. Asian men are stereotyped as being shorter, having smaller dicks and narrower frames so they get cast in the submissive roles more often. Same thing happens in straight porn too you'll find way more vids of white guys fucking asian women than asian guys fucking white women. You'll also find more black guys fucking white women than white guys fucking black wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:30 PM
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It's that it's only a top 5% experience for men meanwhile every abled bodied woman is able to have those experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:13 PM
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I dont get why the assumption is that guys with big dicks lack or cant aquire sexual skill and erotica maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:46 PM
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All else being similar it equals better sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:04 PM
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Relative to the guys who are in the negative impact bucket it does increase it. An attractive man + non horny women = no sex and Im not even sure I believe that. It seems pretty common online for there to be a hot guy or celebrity picture/video on toktok and women to respond with some variation of "omg my ovaries" or "raw, next question" ect lol So it does seem women can become reactively horny based on visual stimuli just like men. The only difference is women require a higher caliber of visual…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:24 PM
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Does that distinction meaningfully change anything? Like even if there is just two tiers neutral impact and negative impact it still implies, there is a bar a man's looks has to pass to be in the neutral category and that men who pass that bar will disproportionately be the ones chosen for casual sex and also the ones who give women the most orgasms. And per those dating app studies women presumably rate most men's physical appearances in the negative impact tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:01 PM
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The disconnect is two fold. You may disagree but my observation and the observation of men that share my opinion on this is that the guys we have seen/known who have had easy access to casual sex usually <not always> had easy access to relationships as well. Often enough <not always> we also see women complain about falling for/wanting more from a situationship/ friends with benefits. You and the other women seemingly want to push this narrative that the men who get chosen for casual sex are los…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:45 PM
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I can't relate to this "pool of casual sex" business anyway. Might be different for you vs a woman who only has casual sex occasionally. I do think the women who have casual sex on more of an exception basis are more likely to have different thresholds between casual/longterm than the women like yourself who have more of a consistent streak of casual sex. I think the women who are sluts are just consistently equally picky on looks for both casual and long-term. And that still is besides my point…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:44 AM
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Hard to say since I wasn't alive back then. I think modern men probably glorify the past but also that modern women possibly exaggerate how bad it was. I guess I also don't find it interesting/valuable to judge the past by modern standards/speculate on who had it worse 200 years ago. I also really can't accept the premise that men today have it worse than women under patriarchy. Is that even a common debate? I think its more "do men today have it worse than women today"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:35 AM
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First because that only means you care about validation from a small amount of women. Most women have had casual sex at least a couple times. i have not so big pool of relationship partly because men don't offer them idk that just comes across like "I choose you for a relationship because so few men are willing to offer me that" versus for casual sex its "I have countless options to choose from and picked you out of all of them" "other guys have to pay for dates and wait but Im willing to sleep …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:23 AM
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There's no point at which a woman can't "afford" to reject a man for sex or a relationship in the Western world I feel like this is just nitpicking the use of the word afford but I will rephrase. If the casual market is more lopsided in womens favor then women will have a larger pool of men to choose from than she would for a relationship and will have access to hotter guys for casual sex than she would for a relationship. And when given a larger/better pool it seems natural to raise the minimum…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:16 AM
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ok and thats why red pill men rightfully view it as more flattering/validating to meet a womans casual standards than to only meet her longterm ones
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:00 AM
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There's no reason why men should be able to "get casual sex easily" when the ratio of demand for casual sex vs the supply of casual sex is so extraordinarily lopsided. If we acknowledge that its exordinarily lopsided wouldn't it follow that women can afford to be way more picky about who they choose to have casual sex with? If the casual sex market is more lopsided in womens favor than the relationship market it would make sense that women are able to be more picky about who they have casual sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:31 AM
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I also think its likely also a compatibility thing where everyone has different tolerances for mess/clutter ranging from full blown horder to ocd neat freak and everything in between. And either people need to pair off with someone in a similar band to themselves or be willing to meet somewhere in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:15 AM
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I think its also just good because then you "have it in writing" and reduces the opening for arguments because the expectations are clearly defined and easily checked if they were met or not. I suspect with a lot of these chore arguments its a lot of he said she said, one side having a higher expectation/standard than the other and not having it properly communicated/agreed upon. Having a written log/chart cuts through all the bullshit and arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:06 AM
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they don’t seem to understand that the person has changed as a result of time, age, maturity, experiences, etc. I mean its still frustrating/depressing especially if its a pattern where you only ever get the person AFTER they changed and never get to experience being the person who gets the special treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:21 AM
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Most of the guys I know who had easy access to casual sex also managed to get married just fine :/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:29 AM
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I thought you said some of the women you had sex on the first date with did turn into relationships? So wouldn't that mean you were both hookup and relationship material to those women. Also just in general, there are certain stereotypical gendered complaints. Men for example are more likely than women to complain about being "friend zoned". Similarly women more often than men seem to have complaints about falling for a fwbs or situationship who didn't want more. Point being its not uncommon for…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:52 AM
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Its not that it's easy to get a relationship its just easier relative to casual sex. Thats why the men who can't get girlfriends are usually just completely sexless. Because if you can't even jump over the 1 foot hurdle (get a gf) you obviously can't jump over the 3 foot hurdle (have a fwbs).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:43 AM
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women if we actually like your personality we won’t want to have sex immediately because we want to get to know you better But how do you know that you actually like his personality if you haven't gotten to know him yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:33 AM
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Im not sure how that refutes what I said. You seem to have had plenty of opportunities for both casual sex and relationships. Some of the women you had sex with right away didn't turn into relationships, some did.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:26 AM
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It’s hard to relate because a guy being willing to sleep with me earlier versus later doesn’t really work as a difference. Yeah I understand that. Yall have the opposite scenario where you're constantly getting sexualized and offered sex so a guy wanting to wait to know you better first will understandably feel more validating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:34 PM
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There are always people better looking. Oh well. That’s life. True but there's a difference between 1. Your partner is aware of better looking people Your partner actually slept with better looking people and deems you not good looking enough to receive the same treatment she offered them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:04 PM
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So with this analogy are you acknowledging that the fwbs material guys are often more physically attractive than the husband material guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:20 PM
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I still think there's more guys who are able to get married than there are men who are able to be fuckboys. Even women here say "just look outside theres plenty of nerdy non attractive guys in relationships/marriages". I don't think those nerdy mediocre looking guy in relationships/marriages were getting picked for casual sex tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:18 PM
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The guys who are capable of having casual sex easily typically dont struggle getting women who want relationships either. So they usually get the best of both worlds. There are however men who can get relationships but are not attractive/charismatic enough for casual sex. Thats the reason the focus is often on hookup material because theres more men who cant get casual sex than there are men who get casual sex but cant get relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:05 PM
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He still wins relative to the guys who don't get picked for casual sex. He still wins relative to the guys who have to wait and pay for dates before that same woman sleeps with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:58 PM
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Sure, but the reason the focus is on hookup material is because thats the part more men struggle with. There's way more guys who can get married but never got much casual play than there are men who had plentiful options for casual sex but couldn't find a woman willing to marry him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:56 PM
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Most guys are able to eventually get married. I don't think most guys can become fuckboys. Husbands are not more rare than hookup guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:54 PM
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are you willing to say what your old username was?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:42 AM
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I don't really go on this subreddit much anymore. It finally clicked in my brain that I was wasting time and hurting my mental health by having the same arguments day after day with the same pink/blue pill women and I gradually started comming here less and less. I also ended up joining a discord with some of the less toxic ppd reddit users who used to be active back when I was and I enjoy spending time there more than on the reddit. Im still single and still on the blackpill side but I don't wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 01:47 AM
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How is it incompatible if you don't even have a high count yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:57 PM
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I think women just cherry pick when they want something to be egalitarian. Bill Burr made a joke once where women view it kinda like a buffet and they want to keep traditions that benefit them while removing only the ones they don't like and I think that comparison is pretty spot on. Your acceptance of enforced military conscription only for men is a perfect example of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:44 PM
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The % of MGTOW or Redpill guys who go on to be mass shooters is probably less than a fraction of a percent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:40 PM
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I didn't say you only considered looks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:10 AM
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Sure but that ain't happening. Any changes would only be for future generations. For men currently in the dating market the damage has already been done and theres no going back.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:34 AM
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I don't believe you but we can agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:20 AM
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As a 5'9 guy with a good job I really dont want to marry a woman who spent her 20s getting railed by 6'1 guys with mediocre jobs but then "lowers her standards" to marry me. Aside from the hit to my ego it really just sounds like a recipe for divorce or a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:01 AM
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I disagree. As a short guy I don't want a woman who has been ran through by tall guys to lower her standards for me. I'd rather never get married at all than marry such a woman. A woman who is accustomed to a certain caliber of guys is never going to be able to be loyal and treat a guy she settles for well. It'll just end in divorce infidelity or a dead bedroom. Women should just keep doing what they're doing. If they manage to hit the lotto and get commitment from a tall hot guy then good for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 03:55 AM
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Comming from a woman with the tag "I hate people"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:30 AM
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I can believe that attractive guys are pickier than average guys but are attractive guys equally as picky as women? (for casual hookups)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:08 AM
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So? You'd never make the same kind of post with genders reversed encouraging women to try to understand struggling or lonely men. So why should we need be charitable towards womens circumstances knowing the same courtesy is never going to go the other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:33 PM
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Again I see women do the same all the time towards men. They don't care how a guy ended up in a situation or what his background is they just stereotype him insult him and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:21 PM
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I don't get what point you're trying to make? It seems like you're agreeing that women go for the hottest guys for casual sex. I don't see how your prostitute analogy refutes what I said in my comment. It is true that if and when they do settle down, their picks are women who have also fucked around. Like attracts like, always. I disagree that they are only picking their equal. I know several fuckboy guys who married women significantly less promiscuous than them. Sure they didn't marry virgins …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:10 PM
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The reason behind it doesn't change anything. Rather than acknowledging that may be all she knows is toxic behavior yall just say she needs to pick better . I almost never see women afford any charitability to men who have struggled or are struggling with dating so why are we expected to do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:00 PM
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Ok, fair maybe I shouldn't have used that phrasing. I don't think any guy litterally has a 100% success rate. My view is more: Generally speaking women will have unrequitted feelings for a casual sex partners more often than men just like men are more likely to have unrequited feelings for platonic friends than women are Casual sex guys will have a high (50 - 60%) rate of converting casual sex partners to relationships if he so chooses Even in the event where a specific woman doesn't want more h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:27 PM
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That sounds more like someone who doesn't regularly have casual sex but made an exception. Well that's realistically most women. Most women probably only have short phases of casual sex rather than consistently pursuing it. Personally, the looks threshold is the same for me. Hypothetically if the men you had casual sex with were lined up next to the men you seriously dated, do you think other women would rate the two groups of men as similarly attractive? If you ARE going to fuck someone who you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:11 PM
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it's okay but not effective
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:05 PM
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do you think her husband knows about her past?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:59 PM
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I thought you even aknowleged women will obviously go for the hottest guys for casual sex. And we also know men have a lower threshold for casual sex so it's makes sense that the hottest guy a woman is capable of having sex with will often be hotter than the hottest guy she is capable of securing commitment from. If the fuckable threshold was lower than datable then average men should commonly find it easier to find casual sex than a girlfriend but it seems like: the guys who can't get relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:55 PM
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damn that's brutal do you know if she got married and what kinda of guy she ended up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:50 PM
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Yes there's different categories but the argument is that the fuckable threshold is higher and that the hottest guy women can get for casual will often be hotter than the hottest guy she can get for commitment and as a result women are more likely than men to fall for and want more from their casual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:47 PM
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oh true my bad I misinterpreted
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:39 PM
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Isn't this knowledge out in the open now? Women regularly talk about how "men will fuck anything" and "dick is low value and abundant" I don't see how they still get played
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:38 PM
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You said men underestimate how many men lie implying that women get fooled by these lies. My point is that it should be obvious that the hot fun guy that every woman wants probably isn't going to commit and the women who delude themselves into thinking he will are gullible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:33 PM
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Are women really that gullible? It's not like this is hidden knowledge that the hot guys that every other woman wants probably isnt going to commit to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:26 PM
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That interpretation is missing context. They want women to lower their standards earlier in life rather than get ran through by super hot fuckboys in their early 20s and only lower standards for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:14 PM
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Discord has custom server emojis and bots. Also the conversations end up being better than on reddit because its a closer nit group. Are you interested in joining?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:39 AM
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Yeah, really not a fan of Trump and Elon.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:58 AM
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It's funny how women in their own way do kinda agree with manoshphere takes ie all women are chasing the same guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:56 AM
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It's an online private chat forum popular within the gaming community but I've also joined a few that originated off ppd. Would you be interested in joining? idk if you remember e2-butene but he's there and he said he misses arguing with you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:51 AM
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how do you feel about discord?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:31 AM
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You're not really proving any points here. My point is that there is a wider range of body types and body fat %s that are considered attractive for women than for men and that even women who do not match the conventional ideal still easily get men who do match the male conventional ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:29 PM
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Fat men are are not easily attracting female models and gym bunny girls. Meanwhile you while fat said you had no problem getting muscular men and male models. Either you're lying about your past or the standards for women are lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:44 PM
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this
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:36 PM
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Would you say only women who have big boobs/ass are worthy of tall fit men? I really doubt you believe that. Women's bodies are considered attractive/good just for not being fat but mens bodies are only attractive if they are tall and muscular. You yourself have posted here that you used to get bodybuilders and male models even when you were fat. So it seems like: skinny women = fit men fat women = fit men fit women = fit men but only fit tall men get to be considered attractive. So yes it absol…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:18 PM
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doesn't this kind of validate their view then that the looks standards are higher for men to be considered attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:53 PM
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congrats 🎉!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:18 AM
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It seems like you also scored HPV cervical cancer tho
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:11 AM
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Basically every woman thinks she's average or above
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:56 AM
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Eh I'd definitely take life on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:50 AM
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lol let me guess, a woman wrote that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:48 AM
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His point is thats its unlikely the guy a woman settles down with will be the best across all relevant categories. Even if those guys exist there's simply not enough supply to match the demand so a decent number of women will either have to stay single or settle with a guy who is a downgrade compared to some of her exes especially if she's had a lot of casual sex. Going back to his comment: One ex earned more, one was taller, one was better looking, etc For instance maybe: * ex1 was 6'5 college …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:18 AM
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It's not really quantified tho like it is for dicks. Women will give exact numbers for what they consider good/bad. The same isn't true for vaginas and realistically what guys refer to as tight is probably just the average vaginal tightness. Women also have the benefit of being able to do kegals. I just dont think women struggle to get men off or get rejected on the basis of their vaginal size often enough for it to really be comparable to what men experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:47 PM
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You must have qualities that men want and offer something that makes higher value men want to meet your standards, this still falls in line with my logic. Most women are mid and not exceptional by definition but still want to compete for the guys most other women want. This is where the issue remains. I don't even think that's necessarily true. I think there's diminishing returns after a woman is like a 7/10. I don't think a woman with a high value man is the same value as him. The guy almost al…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:33 PM
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Labia preferences are more comparable to women prefering circumcised or uncircumcised. Penis size is worse because there's an actual functional impact to not meeting the preference rather than simply visual.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:21 PM
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There's two disconnects imo. The importance/weight of physical attraction and the threshold someone has to meet to qualify as physically attractive. 1.There has been and continues to be a narrative that men are the more shallow sex and that women value personality more than looks. I don't anyone believed looks didn't matter at all but I do think a lot bought into the idea that they were less important than they actually are and that women were less shallow than men. However I think with the incr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:02 PM
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Could you elaborate on why you were unimpressed with the app?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 04:42 AM
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Are you hot? I feel like you'd need one of those 3 things (rich, famous, hot) lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 04:28 AM
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Thank you for the detailed response. I have a couple more follow-up questions... Hypothetically, would your husband have met your looks threshold for when you were in your fwb phase? Like imagine the personality of the chad but with your husbands appearance. How did you end up meeting the chad? and do you think you are stacy tier?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:12 AM
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Ok that's fair that you view both scenarios the same. Follow-up question. Would you say the guys you had sex with quickly and the guys you took things slow with were roughly equivalent in terms of physical attraction? Or to put it another way, hypothetically if you had met your current guy PRIOR to you having been burned would he have met your threshold to sleep with him quickly?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:29 AM
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But you seem to be saying unless you are Brad Pitt/Henry Cavil level attractive then you need to stay in your lane and accept you are not going to be chosen for casual sex or sex on the first date. And as a result you also have to accept that is the caliber of men your wife did have sex on the first date with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:39 AM
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You're just confirming what we say. You are not physically attractive to the guys you make wait for sex. The guys you do sleep with casually are the ones you are really attracted to. Really the only part you disagree with is how men should react to it. You think men should just willingly accept that he should marry a woman who doesnt find him physically attractive and overlook her sexual history because he's not worthy of wanting better for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:26 AM
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lol, how convenient
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:22 AM
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Maybe a different woman would vibe better with his personality. Maybe she's a height queen and he's not tall enough to meet her "climb like a tree" on the first date threshold. In either case if he wants to vet for a woman who feels sexual chemistry for him he's probably better off moving on and either finding a different woman, working on self improvement or some combination thereof.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:14 AM
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Is it illogical for women to vet men based on whether they pay for dates and how expensive the dates are as a barometer of the man's interest/investment?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:10 AM
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I'm not referring to feelings necessarily. I'm referring to physical attraction/sexual chemistry. It's no different than women assuming men who are willing to pay for the date are more interested in them than men who want to split the bill. Women don't seem to find that assumption illogical.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:56 AM
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Ok, I will concede that there doesn't seem to be concrete evidence for hair texture/color being sexually dimorphic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:48 AM
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I agree that a average height guy with a hot face can be prefered over an ugly face guy who is tall. My point is more that Peter's problem is not his height it's his face. When women reject Peter it's not because "eew he's too tall" it's because "eew is face is gross". A 6'8 Jamie Vardy would be more desirable than the 5'10 Jamie Vardy just as the 6'8 Peter Crouch is better off than a 5'10 Peter Crouch would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:45 AM
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How is that perception wrong tho? I could understand how it's not ideal in theory but in practice does it not kind of play out like that? Why is essentially all sex work women selling to men? Why do women talk about how they are the table and men need to pay for dates prove their worthiness/interest? Why do women often admit that "off course the guys we have sex with immediately are hotter you'd do the same if you had the options we do"? It seems pretty logical if a woman is spreading her legs o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:39 AM
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I don't understand their logic that a woman who has sex on the first date is going to be "low n count" That's not really the logic. The logic is that the typical woman has a medium bodycount, some of whom she slept with early on some of who she took it slow with and the ideal is to be in the half she was most excited to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:32 AM
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Do you think he'd be considered more or less attractive at 5'10 ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:27 AM
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I'm trying to give an analogous scenario to the woman having casual sex with really hot guys and then marrying a less attractive guy. If you have a better analogy I'm open to hearing it. The vast majority of prositution happens in good hotels, often with guest relations making the arrangements. What about brothels? or is that only a minority of all prostitution?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:26 AM
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He married a model.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:19 AM
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Doesn't make them desirable I agreed that rarity on its own does not make something desirable. I'm just saying rarity is an additional factor on top of whatever made it desirable enhancing its value. honestly I think you didn't even bother to Google yourself, I just think you thought I'd take your word for it I did Google it but relied on the Google Gemini summary which said: "Yes, to a certain extent, hair color can be considered sexually dimorphic, meaning there are noticeable differences in h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:43 PM
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Does that not make sense to you? Men praise/envy him because he has achieved something most men can’t. Women give it a pass because usually the guys capable of doing that are physically desirable men. Also from the womans perspective , dick is "low value and abundant" so all his exes got that which women view as low value and abundant while she gets what women view as the prize (commitment from a highly desirable man that other women wanted but couldn't get) So through that lens it makes sense w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:36 PM
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I think I'm in the middle actually. I agree that rareness on its own doesn't necessarily make something desirable but it is often a component of it. Hair texture and color have nothing to do with sexual dimorphism anyway I could see texture having some relation to it. In fact if you Google search "hair texture sexual dimorphism" and "hair color sexual dimorphism" there does seem to be articles suggesting there is some relation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:30 PM
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The latter isn’t praised for being scammed sure Ok so when you said "men do this and get praised" were you talking about the former scenario (men who are hot enough to have a lot of casual sex naturally) ? No one would care about the woman he married or claim that he’s some kind if bad person for it If his past was known do you really think other women in her social circle wouldn't be blasting him or saying she deserves better??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:21 PM
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Well there's good rare and bad rare. A 6'8 man and a 5'0 man are probably equally rare but it's obvious which one is more desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:06 PM
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Is your thought process that Lizzo is the hottest within her niche while Margot Robbie is more mid within a generic but popular category (skinny blonde blue eyes) ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:01 PM
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What are you referring to here? Guys who have a lot of casual sex and then settle down with a more modest woman? or Guys who got scammed out of money from hot chicks? The former is sometimes praised. The latter, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 10:50 PM
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Isn't the risk low still? IIRC it goes from 10/1100 to 15/1100 or something like that. So yeah it's a big increase in relative terms but in absolute terms the odds of an autistic child are still really low. I feel like the root reason women don't want to date an older man is just that his looks give her the ick and everything else is post hoc rationalization. It's kinda the same with the bodycount discussion guys will write paragraphs about why they don't want to date high n women and will cite …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 10:44 PM
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Do you believe sexuality is a choice? On paper, if I could choose my sexuality I would rather be gay or bi because like you said gay dating seems more accessible and easier compared to dating women. I hate how much of a winner take all dynamic there is to straight dating and how much more leverage the typical woman has compared to the typical man. Gay dating seems more even in that if you're an average looking gay man, your match is also an average looking gay man and you both in theory have the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 10:11 PM
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The scenario I'm thinking of is a guy who is a repeat customer to either a prostitute or an OnlyFans creator and over time spends $1000s of dollars on them. Then wants to go on cheap coffee dates and have a cheap wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 09:56 PM
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The cool thing about height is just how exact it is and how virtually unanimous it is. Compare that to something like a nose job or chin implant, there's not going to be widespread agreement that your new nose/chin is more attractive than your old one and you're certainly not going to have any quantifiable measure for it With height it's practically unanimous that everything else being equal a taller man is more desirable. So the taller version of you is essentially garanteed to be more desirabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 09:28 PM
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I don't see how that conflicts with my viewpoint. I agree body language matters but I'd still categorize that under appearance/how you present visually.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:54 PM
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Probably based on attraction, cost, vibe. Now answer mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:01 PM
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I was thinking in terms of him being cheap on the dates and not buying an expensive ring. I think its definitely possible a guy could spend more on a prostitutes or onlyfans creator than his wife if he was a repeat customer. Is it common? no I'm just trying to give an analogous scenario to women having casual sex with really hot guys who she gave more of herself sexually to and than marrying a less attractive guy who she isn't giving as much to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 06:59 PM
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So hypothetically if a man had spent a lot of money to sleep with a bunch of extremely hot prostitutes then marries a less attractive woman who he doesnt spend as much money on should the woman be ok with it since it's the same as her prioritizing really hot men for casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 05:35 PM
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It still seems like the visuals are both the root and most influential factor. The "vibe" is usually just how your mind is perceiving the visuals and filling in the blanks. And in a way guys do the same thing. Guys often create scenarios in their head and make assumptions about a womans personality based on their appearance too and can be disappointed if the reality doesn't match the fantasy but it's still the looks driving it all in both cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 05:21 PM
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Can someone women do it? Sure. We're talking about in general tho. Which gender complains more about "feeling used for sex" and having trouble getting commitment? I'd say that's a way more common complaint from women than men. Men are more likely to complain they can't get laid or that they have to jump through hoops to get laid. This is also another example of men ruining things for other men. Devaluing women who enjoy fucking men and taking them for granted It really doesn't. The root problem …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 05:10 PM
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Did you prefer it over the less exclusive dating apps? What counts as a 'cool' profession? I know the obvious ones like athlete, musician, actress, influencer ect. Yeah I've read they do vet for follower count.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:33 PM
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You said they met on Raya tho. I thought you needed to be rich and famous to get invited?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:35 PM
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I dont think its uncommon for women to be capable of being aroused by men purely based on looks. To me the main difference between men and women is just how high quality the looks need to be in order to illicit those feelings. Absolutely men experience attraction based on looks far easier and to a wider variety of women but to say that most women can't experience arrousal based on looks I dony think is accurate. It's just that most men are not physically masculine enough to meet the threshold re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:34 PM
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Are your friends celebrities? He managed to sexually turn them both off. I think there are two different parts here. Can women become sexually aroused by a guy purely based on looks? and Are women more prone than men to losing attraction to an otherwise hot person if his personality doesn't match his hot exterior? I'd say yes to both.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:29 PM
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I've definitely seen women become aroused over men based on physical appearance without knowing anything else about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:26 PM
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Are men ok with being unhappy in a relationship as long as she made all her exes unhappy too? That's so weird That can be the case sometimes. However it's not necessarily that they were unhappy previously. It's the comparison and realization that she willingly offered/did more for the ex than for him that causes the unhappiness in a lot of cases. I could see the same concept happening in a work scenario like maybe someone is currently happy with their salary but then find out a coworker/friend m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:39 PM
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Why you ask? Because it increases their chances of being "the best she's ever had". I think that's a big factor but on some level I think just the mental image of a lot of men sleeping with their girl triggers a strong "ick" response even if all the guys were hypothetically inferior to him. But yeah the assumption usually is that womens casual sex standards for looks are higher so if a woman has a high bodycount she was likely hooking up with highly physically attractive/masculine men. A lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 03:04 AM
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we'd figure it out by just copying the women and buying 7" dildos and 10000 rpm vibrators
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:17 PM
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Probably a lot of lesbian orgies
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:49 PM
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None of this scales. The top 20% best looking guys are not rich enough to support children for all the women. And the remaining 80% of men aren't going to put effort into society if they have no families. If all the women reproduce all the womens shit genes still pass on to the next generation. Sub 6ft men will always exist as long as short women continue to pass on their mid tier genes. More realistic option is just lean in on genetic engineering/designer babies and that way you can filter BOTH…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:28 PM
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If all women reproduce shitty genes will still be passed on to the next generation. A lot of guys who are under 6ft have a tall father who mated with a short woman which caused him to be under 6ft. It's got to go both ways if you really want to maximize the quality of the gene pool
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:17 PM
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I agree with that distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:57 AM
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Personally, I'd find that very suspicious but if you're happy then good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 02:21 PM
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PPD women will sometimes say that a high n man cant expect a low n woman. This anecdote simply shows that they absolutely can. I'm not claiming that 100% of low n women are ok with high n men just that there's enough that the high n men can still land a low n woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 02:06 PM
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Did she ever prefer virgins when she was younger and having casual sex or did she only suddenly prefer virgins when it was time to find someone to settle down with?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 02:04 PM
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early 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 12:04 AM
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Just saw another post on r/Dating where a woman is posting about how she wants to lose her virginity to a fwbs who is a lot more experienced than her. It highlights how full of shit ppd women are when they try to claim a guy needs to have a low n count in order to want/get a low n woman. If anything the promiscuous guys have the best odds of getting to date a virgin or low n woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 10:54 PM
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It'll probably be easier for manufacturers to make the bots for women because you'll all order the same thing (6'6 8 inches, fit) just with different hair/eye color combinations. Sex bots for men will likely be more difficult because they'll have to accommodate a wider variety of types.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:40 PM
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They do care about looks. All this proves is that in some cases if a guy is tall and playing a fantasy character in a show/movie wheee hes in an unnatural position of power/influence sometimes they can find non-model men attractive. However, most of the time the lead guy in women's romance novels/shows are very stereotypicallly attractive ie Twilight, 50 Shades of Grey, Bridgerton ect
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:18 PM
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No they'll probably be a subscription model so you have to pay a monthly fee
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:11 PM
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I said I'd get it IF it was cheaper and less risky. And please show me where I shamed women for getting fake tits? I'll wait ...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:09 PM
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For sure. If they could get the price to maybe 15k and the recovery wasn't 6+ months of relearning how to walk I'd be down for sure. I'd love to be able to widen my collar bones too since broad shoulders are the other thing women almost unanimously prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:01 PM
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Ultimately I think advancements in limb lengthening surgery to make it more affordable and less risky would be the ideal solution here. I think women typically prefer a guy to be at least 8 inches taller than her and you're never going to change womens preferences so the next best thing is to change yourself to match what is actually wanted/desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:37 PM
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alright lock in my answer for that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:35 PM
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ok I guess which ever ones hotter then
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:28 PM
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Says deleted
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:25 PM
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lol yeah that's pretty unhinged. I think the best thing for a guy to do is just disengage and ghost/block before she does. It just pathetic to not only get blocked first but then to get new phones just to try to tell them off further.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:24 PM
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are nice girls an option
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:20 PM
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It's a balancing act probably where you cant be too low effort but on the flip side for most men women are kinda like slot machines so you can't afford to be overly invested in the outcome in the early stages. Women swipe left on the vast majority of guys and then ghost a good percentage of thr guys they do swipe right on They are extremely flakely and get the "ick" at the drop of a dime. It doesn't make sense to be high effort when the likelihood of any given interaction going anywhere is in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:36 PM
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Its all semantics. It's like the definition of racism, some define it as "discrimination/prejudice against a person/group on the basis of their race" but others tack on the "done by a person from a racial background that that was historically in power" qualifier to make it so the definition doesn't count racism against white people as valid. Similarly feminists will usually tailor the definition of patriarchy, sexism, rape culture ect to match their desired outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:31 PM
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I mean if that's your response then he kinda did gotcha lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:15 AM
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Sure but everything else being similar you're going to prefer 6ft+ , no? And even if we just are talking faces, doesnt having a nice face imply above average?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:33 AM
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6ft with attractive face is not exactly average tho
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:31 PM
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Because I would say the men I have met on apps were average? But I thought your top level post was saying that when presented with the 6ft attractive guy on the apps then obviously yall are going to pick that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:08 PM
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The best dating coach will be a guy with similar traits to those they are trying to help. A woman has never had to attract women as a man and a 6'2 facially handsome guy has never had to attract women as an average Joe
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:31 PM
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I agree. It's usually just an involuntary ick and all the other stuff is just extra justifications on top of that. Like I can say they're more likely to cheat/divorce which is true but even if I could see the future and know the high n woman would never cheat I still would feel gross commiting to one. Same thing if a man sees a prostitute, women will claim the reason it's a deal breaker is because the woman might have been trafficked or because it's illegal buy even if the guy could prove it was…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:09 PM
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Were the guys they had casual sex with also average?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:43 PM
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It will vary based on the type of guy she ends up with. If the guy she marries is just as tall hot and endowed as the men she had casual sex with then shell probably be just as slutty with them as she was with her casual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:26 PM
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It doesn't have to be like that. Just like some women get to have their cake and eat it too there are men who also get to have the best of both worlds and get a low n partner who is fun to have sex with ie the lady in the streets freak in the sheets. And conversely lots of men end up with the worst of both worlds where his partner is high n and was slutty and easy to get for for the better looking fuckboy guys but then is more reserved and vanilla with him the husband/boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:02 PM
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There's two sets of options: A. members of the opposite sex that we find acceptable B. members of the opposite sex that fund us acceptable and then our "final options" are the intersections of A and B. Womens options are almost always bottlenecked or limited by (A) Men's options are almost always limited or bottlenecked by (B) Men and women may have the same complaint but it's for polar opposite reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:00 AM
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But what I’m saying is that men and women are equally prone to developing feelings, all else being equal All else isn't equal though. I don't think it's misandrist to say men are on average better at separating sex and emotions probably due to biology. I also dont think it's unreasonable to say both genders are more prone to developing feelings towards people who are exceptionally hot/charismatic. However since being exceptionally hot and charismatic is a prerequisite for men to have casual sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:41 AM
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I know that's why I specified (assuming a normal distribution) but if the distribution is not normal then you're right that it might not be 50% above/below
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:30 PM
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I disagree that men develop feelings for their fuckgirls as often as women do.I don't think there's this huge pool of men having that problem but holding back for fear of judgment. Its not really the point tho. Do you agree or disagree that women can be and often are more picky on looks for a casual sex partner than for a relationship while men are more likely to fuck down for casual sex but be more picky on looks for a relationship? Secondly.. What do you think is more common? A. Men who can ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:13 PM
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Women would prefer to marry a guy who is equally as hot as the guys they have casual sex with. Women do end up developing feelings for those guys quite often. That's why womens top complaint about dating is fuckboys and men not wanting to commit. The female equivalent of the friendzone is a situationship. I think I’m realizing that men and women probably both settle for each other in marriage at near equal rates Women settle harder though because the guy they marry is less attractive than the me…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:35 PM
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or "no neck ed"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:51 PM
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no problem
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:49 PM
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Because they have more things on their wishlists so naturally the group that has a longer list of preferences will be the one settling more. Also women tend to be able to fuck across and upwards for casual sex while men fuck across and down. So it's more likely that the woman views her spouse as a downgrade simply because men can't typically have casual sex with hotter women than they can date
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:45 PM
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I think it typically goes like this... Woman complains about her experiences with men which is usually something to the effect of "all men are fuckboys" , "all the men I dated cheated on me" , "they keep using me for sex", "my partner walked out on me and now I'm a single mom" ect and then men respond "well you should have chosen better" I don't think men just say it unprompted it's usually in response to a woman venting/blaming men for negative experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:31 PM
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I'd in theory go for it if she was really attractive and low bodycount. Then I'd be getting something rare in exchange for that arrangement. Otherwise it definitely seems like a raw deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:26 PM
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It's generally just used in response to when women complain about being mistreated, cheated, used ect by the men they've gone for. Women have all the cards and a level of choice men could only dream of so yes if a woman has a pattern of ending up with guys who treat her poorly she needs to choose better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:20 PM
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You are seriously suggesting all married women have previously slept with someone taller than her husband? Not all but I do think most women have had at least a couple casual flings with tall guys so any woman who is married to a guy under 6ft ft has fucked someone taller than her husband. The only women who haven't are the ones married go tall men. Same with dick size. Most women will admit that they had at least one ex with a huge dick so any woman married to a man with an average dick has had…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:30 PM
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Do you think the physical attraction threshold a guy needs to pass to meet a womans casual sex standards is higher/lower or the same as a womans relationship standards? The majority of even attractive men aren't going to pull a wife just by being a pretty face I'm not saying the guy has to meet a womans marriage standards just based on his face. I'm saying if a woman is married to a guy who she wouldn't have found attractive enough to have had casual sex with then he's the bb. Its about meeting …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:43 PM
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If the average is 30 (assuming normal distribution) that means half are getting married later than 30. And iirc the average time dating prior to marriage is 2 -5 years so maybe starting dating 27 would be more realistic if we want to pick a number in the middle. Howecer even if we go with your example of them starting to date at 25, that does not mean he's the first pick. My viewpoint doesnt hinge on the age they get married. My point is more about casual sex vs marriage and that women can fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:31 PM
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Sure everyone wants that but women dont need to be hot to have casual sex. Like you said they have all the power can sleep with hot guys and then the nonhot guys they end up married to are the last pick. A guy also doesn't need to be rich to be a betabux. Betabux just means he isn't attractive enough based on his looks alone for women to want to have sex with. He is only worth having sex under the condition that he is commiting and providing. Providing doesn't have to be a millionaire or anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:55 PM
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It's funny how many men and women with blue/purple flairs end up saying things that are almost indistinguishable from what blackpillers say
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:38 PM
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Also AF/BB kind of ridiculous. Don't you think? Aren't you basically agreeing with it in your post? Rhat of course women fuck the hottest guys and then settle it's only natural because they hold all the cards. That's more or less what you said and doesn't in any way conflict with af/bb Do you think AF/BB applies to men to? No, if anything men fuck down for casual so the women they end up in relationships with are more attractive and get better treatment than he gave to the short term women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:35 PM
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I think most women are just not all that excited about or into their partners. The women who are will do a lot for him but generally the guy needs to be hotter than her for that to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:16 AM
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Women can shame them but they're not going to want to pass up a chance with a 6'5 pretty boy. It's not necessarily the difficulty it's that the men who sleep around are above average because a man needs to be above average to fuck lots of women. A woman doesn't need to be special in any way to fuck lots of men. A fat medeocre women can rack up a high bodycount as easily as a hot woman so there's less incentive for men to overlook it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:29 PM
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Ultimately men decide what is desirable in women and women decide what is desirable in men. There's litterally nothing preventing women from avoiding promiscuous men and prioritizing low bodycount men but yall dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:25 PM
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I think a lot of women are drawn to sociopaths/psychopaths actually the worst thing you can be personality-wise is boring and passive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:52 PM
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If they exclusively sought them out perhaps but if they just happened to hit it off with one I dont think it would get much push back in a world where looks were equalized across age brackets. And I could see women being more willing to pursue the older guys as they'd have much more money to spoil them but the same looks and stamina as guys their age. It also hits on the vampire fantasy which seems to be a common trope in women's sexual fiction. The vampire has the physical appearance of an attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:46 PM
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I think a lot of it just boils down to the "ick factor". A young person signing a contract is not going to illicit the same "ick" as them getting the mental image of an older guy having sex with a early to mid 20s woman. I bet if we ever find a way to halt aging such that a 30 or 40 yo man has the same skin and hair quality as a 20 year old man then age gaps won't be as stigmatized as they are now. Will some still take issue, sure but I still think most of it comes down to the looks. All this st…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:53 PM
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SMV - probably a 2 or 3 since Im only 5'8, slightly below average face, introverted, not overweight but not muscular and only average dick. So needless to say I'm not what women look for in a casual sex partner. RMV - probably a 4 or 5 since I make 6 figures, have no drug or alcohol problems, no debt, have above average savings and investment. I'd maybe be viewed as medeocre in LA or NYC since apparently everyone there makes 500k but in my state I'm doing OK. I think I'm a decent communicator to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:58 PM
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For those that think it is deceptive, do you think women shouldn’t do it? I think they can do it but I think men should be able to wear shoes with lifts and hide their hairlines without stigma. I’ve also heard people say it’s unfair women get to improve their appearance through makeup and men don’t really have an equivalent. I’d disagree because the use of makeup increases the “average” beauty standards. Maybe but it also helps women below a certain threshold raise their attractiveness to where …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:55 PM
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But aren't the guys women match with on the apps more physically attractive than the ones they meet irl? And what you said about feeling the pressure to have sex sooner with the app guys but taking things slow with the irl guys sounds like another win for the app guys if you actually went through with sleeping with them right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:50 PM
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I agree. I've seen lots of women here talk about how they love guys who wine and dine them but unless it actually pays off for the guy it's advice that only benefits them at the expense of those men. Especially since those same women have engaged in casual sex with men who never did the things they claim men ought to do. It goes back to the classic watch what they do not what they say. Who are the guys they are actually sleeping with and whenever theres a disconnect where those men don't have or…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:25 AM
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do you think its possible for there to be a dating app where women swiped right on a similar percentage of men as men do women? if so what would that app look like in structure
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:46 AM
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if they do have them slide into my dms
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:08 AM
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Basically blackpill but they think lookism mainly or disproportionately affects women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:56 PM
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I guess my root opinion is that the gender ratio is not really the main reason apps suck for me. I think even if the apps have 50/50 it'll still result in women swiping left on over 90% like they di now. So with red pill and west4b becoming more mainstream I wonder if even more women will ditch dating apps and dating in general. I have seen articles saying the apps are struggling financially so maybe lol Although that will be more to do with men as women probably never spent as much on in app pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:12 PM
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I mean if it helps, women don't really prefer average dicks either. Unless you're 7+ inches you kinda have to accept whatever girl you date has had bigger than you and likely preferred it. So most men are in the same bucket as far as that is concerned until ai finds a way for there to be a safe method of penis enlargement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 09:27 PM
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Am I shilling the apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:39 PM
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The point is that women typically handwave men's complaints about the apps away by saying something to the effect of "women dont even use the apps of course you aren't getting matches". However if it's the case that similar percentages of women use the apps as men but just aren't active as long because they can match with guys super quickly and then leave then I think a lot of men's dating app complaints still stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:34 PM
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That's a reach and even uf she was I don't think autistic women typically prefer autistic men. Just like short women don't prefer short men. Anxious women dont prefer anxious men. Fat women don't prefer fat men...ect
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:22 PM
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Do the females in those species have long difficult pregnancies ? So it seems to be a testosterone thing rather than a gender thing. Do we know if high testosterone women find a higher percentage of men attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:27 PM
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There's always the choice to just do serial monogamy but never marry
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:23 PM
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in what species are the men the choosers?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:13 PM
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I don't think that's how it pans out nor do I think most guys will view it that way. Can't we just do away with marriage. I think those women would be better off just continuing to pine for those 6'2 athletic guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:41 PM
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A woman who has had her share of dating experiences and built a picture of what she wants in a man over the course of 15 years of dating. The disconnect is that most women can have casual sex easily in their 20s but only a subset of men have those same options. So there's not enough men who had lots of casual experiences for those women to all pair off woth their equivalents. And some of those experienced guys will end up marrying less experienced women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:39 PM
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But as a man, your clock ticked as well. You missed out on dating that hot 20 year old sorority girl when you were in your early-mid 20s. I don't expect the hot sorority girl. I'd be fine with an average looking woman. What I don't want is an average woman who was in situationships and having flings with athletes and fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:33 PM
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I'd say it leaves less potential for resentment and dissatisfaction on both sides. If you're going to spend your 20s getting railed by 6'2 athletic guys with 7 inch dicks and then promise to be exclusive to a guy who is average then the odds of deadbedroom, cheating/divorce are likely higher. This dynamic is a large part of redpill and guys like Andrew Tate gaining popularity so there's a decent enough pool of men who clearly feel resentment over how women move in thr dating market which drives …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:06 PM
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lol you're such a condescending fuck. Yours wasn't any better. A guy wanting to spin plates and being frustrated with women pushing for commitment isn't even contradictory. And yes very often the same women who claim that marriage is a worse deal for women still end up wanting their partners to propose and dislike the idea of being "forever girlfriends".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:49 PM
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ok makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:44 PM
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How tall are you and what's your face & hairline like?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:53 PM
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There's no shot she would have been interested in a guy like Elon if he wasn't rich. She's certainly not a personality digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:52 PM
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Women : In general women have more to lose in terms of independence when they get married than men do. Also women: Ugh my boyfriend is dragging his feet and making me a forever girlfriend 😭. I want that ring. I'm going to break up if he doesn't marry me😡
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:46 PM
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Most women are average/unremarkable in most qualities too. It's also funny how yall will swear men are the more shallow gender but you seem to be admitting that unless a guy is above average in every quality women cant be satisfied with him. Honestly we need to just do away with marriage. Women can let themselves be fucktoys for the small percentage of 666 guys and share them. I don't get why yall push for marriage so much when basically you view and treat most men exactly the way redpillers and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:42 PM
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They'll be like "you can't judge me on my past everyone has casual sex" and then "teehee obviously we only have casual sex woth the exceptionally hot guys and that privilege is only for some guys" so basically the husband/relationship only guy gets all the negatives of the trad girls plus all the negative of the slut but litterally none of the positives from either side
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:29 AM
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Yeah I've heard it from late 20s early 30s women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:21 AM
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The timing matters a lot actually. Scenario A she lowers her standards and Billy gets to marry her before she's had a hoe ohase and been railed by by fuckboys. Scenario B she spends her early 30s getting railed by fuckboys and then after she's failed to lock any of them down lowers her standards and marries Billy. Scenario A is way better than Scenario B.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:09 AM
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In general women have more to lose in terms of independence when they get married than men do. Why is it that women seem to be the ones that push for marriage more than men do then? I have never heard of a man lament over being a "forever boyfriend" or how his gf is "dragging her feet on marriage" but I have seen it with women. They'll even put ultimatums like "if he doesn't propose by x date I'm leaving him". If marriage was a much better deal for men than for women shouldn't it be the opposite…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:05 AM
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Ok let's swap it... Imagine the fling guys personality in your husbands body and your husbands personality in the fling guys body Would you have had a fling with a guy who had your husbands looks but the fling guys personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:11 AM
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I'd agree it is hypocritical to criticize having two different standards when men have two different standards. However the complaint isn't necessarily that women have two different standards. It's about how those standards manifest and how women gaslight men about it. It would be like if guys spent lots of money on their casual sex partners but then were more stingy with their gf and then tried to convince the relationship women "oh I'm more stingy with you because I like your personality more …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:09 AM
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So you wouldn't have considered your fiance good-looking enough to have a fling with?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:41 PM
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If the standards are only lowered after she's been ran through by taller hotter guys then I agree it's better she keep her standards where they are at. Lowering standards is only beneficial for men if she does it for casual sex and/or does it before being ran through.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:39 PM
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Sure both sexes have different standards. The difference is for women it's better to meet a man's long-term standards than his short-term. For men it's better to meet a womans short-term standards than her long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:22 PM
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Enter the casual fling, who I would’ve never dated for real because he was dumber than a box of bricks The more important question is when you have a long-term partner would they have been attractive enough for you to have chosen for a fling?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:20 PM
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Good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:07 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:05 PM
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I don't think that is necessarily the case. There are common tropes about non-white and white women alike focusing their hate on "straight white males" specifically and I don't think it's far fetched that changing the race in the bear hypothetical would change people's answers. To continue with the Palestine example, there seemed to be a surprising amount of people doubting the claims that hamas sexually assaulted/raped women during and after the Oct 7 attack even though it is something that is …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:42 PM
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Just because they didn't specify race doesn't mean race wouldn't influence their answer. Let's be real for a second, everyone on this reddit is constantly trying to find "gotchas" to use against the other side. It's what we do here and you are no different. Let's not pretend you are anymore good faith than the redpillers you hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:36 PM
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enlighten me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:53 PM
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My point is that I think the man/bear statement is political and they are imagining a white man when they make that statement because it's socially acceptable to bash white men especially. If you specify Palestinian man I think a lot of those women would swap their answers or refuse to answer because they don't want to imply they view a Palestinian man as a threat to women. It think there's a lot of overlap between women who are staunchly pro Palestine and defend hamas and women who bash men onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:36 PM
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It definitely is more of a political men suck statement. I'd be super curious if the question had specified a certain type of man like Would you rather be stuck in the forest woth a bear or a Palestinian man if they'd swap their answers and say the man instead of the bear. And then obviously if its a white man they'll all pick the bear
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:22 PM
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I've seen plenty of women say 7" is ideal too. And the guys who are well endowed often report how women react quite favorably to them. Sometimes they even get referral sex where another woman wants to fuck them after learning about him having a big dick. That litterally never happens for small/average endowed guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:58 AM
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Too small becomes a problem way sooner than too big. Unless a guy is like 9 inches he's not going to be too big. There's a reason why virtually none of the well endowed guys wish their dick was smaller while pretty much all the guys who are under 7" would make theirs bigger if they could. The well endowed guys are almost always fetishished and prioritized especially for casual sex. Women will settle for average guys and give them that line about how "average is good as long as he makes up for it…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:38 AM
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IKR! They're expecting us to voluntarily put ourselves on a watch list all for a 25% chance of a $15 gift card lmao maybe if it was a 25% chance that one of the female research assistants will blow us it would be a more compelling offer
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:22 AM
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It can't be any more rare than guys who are 6'2, making 6 figures and packing 7 inches that so many women claim to be able land.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:14 AM
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hmm possibly if the ai takes over all virtual sex/porn then the only thing real women could offer to compete would be in person services
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 02:52 AM
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probably the 20 year old For most traits there's a good and bad end of the spectrum young is desirable old is undesirable tall is desirable short is undesirable rich is desirable poor is undesirable big dick is desirable small dick is undesirable it's no different than if you ask women if they'd rather fuck a guy who is 6'4 over a 5'8 guy they're all are going to pick the 6'4 guy ask women if they'd rather have a guy with a 7 inch dick or a 5 inch dick and theyll all say 7 ask them if they'd rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 12:31 AM
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I'm not saying women have to uplift/protect men I'm just saying you can't complain about men developing insecurities that you create and intentionally weaponize. I'm not seeing how your example is analogous.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 12:22 AM
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The other user said "They like insulting things men cant change to hit on insecurities. " I mentioned fragile masculinity because women often laugh about masculinity being fragile regarding men feeling insecure about their height, income or dick size. I find it ironic to simultaneously judge and insult men on characteristics they have little control over while also calling the fragile for developing insecurities you helped create and intentionally poke at.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:33 PM
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Are you asking in good faith or are you just just being snarky and/or looking for a gotcha moment? If it's the latter I'd rather not waste time responding to you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:12 PM
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If men want non-promiscuous women, then stop engaging in promiscuomity yourselves. It doesn't play out like that. Dating for men is winner take all so if a guy is desirable enough to consistent fuck women without having to commit to them and hr wants a low bodycount women then he absolutely can have his cake and eat it too. I'm inexperienced and I have never heard women talk about inexperience in a possible light. Experienced women don't want inexperienced guys and neither do inexperienced women…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:21 PM
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oh boy a $15 gift card 😮
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:44 PM
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See so women were fine with it because he was hot. Men were weird about it probably because of jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:27 PM
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It doesn't matter. Women still prefer men more experienced than them even if the divorce risk is theoretically higher for those men. As an inexperienced guy Ive paid attention to how women talk about inexperience in men and its almost never in a positive light.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:22 PM
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Could say the same about age gap relationships. Very often that woman isnt complaining but other women will complain on behalf. Or another example when you see women posting on tiktok about cooking for their husband or being traditional very often other women will be offended on her behalf in the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:03 PM
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I think its mostly based on how hot and wealthy the guy is. If thr guy is successful and looks young for his age far fewer women will have an issue with it than if he's balding, overweight and mid
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:39 PM
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Specifically their beliefs about what women find attractive and what their standards are yes you do agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:43 PM
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You only disagree with their attitudes not their premises about women and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:40 PM
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What good advice does BP give?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:32 PM
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It's also ironic to me because those are the same women who will often laugh about how "fragile masculinity is" but they are the first ones to jump at an opportunity to hit at a guys insecurities
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:26 PM
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Ok fair. If you take attraction out of it then yes you're probably right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:09 PM
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Seems antagonistic/hypocritical to make fun of someone's beliefs when you yourself essentially affirm most of what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:05 PM
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I dont get how you post on inceltears when your standards are like 100% in line with what incels say about women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:51 PM
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iirc the average height difference women prefer when polled is like 6 to 8 inches
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:50 PM
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There was a female streamer who recently admitted to keeping a spreadsheet of the men shes had sex with ranking them on size and performance. Also if a woman can't even remember her number then it's probably safe to assume its too high for the guys who care about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:20 AM
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Is it because you want a MFM threesome?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:17 AM
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I don't think you need to justify your preferences. Women could fill a book with all their deal-breakers and rarely justify any of them beyond "that's what I want". Most of the women who judge men for having preferences based on their sexual history also judge men based on their sexual histories. They often don't want virgins men, men who have seen sex workers or men who have sexually experimented with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:35 PM
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They'll only find her gross if she's a virgin due to being ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:31 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:06 PM
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Women can have whatever standards they want. I'm 5'9 and I'd hate for a woman that's been passed around like a fucktoy by a bunch of 6ft+ men to lower her standards and settle for me only after she failed to get commitment from the men she gave her all for. She should keep chasing the 6ft men or die trying as far as I'm concerned. They’ll say things like “I only want the bare minimum.” “It’s so hard to meet a good man.” I agree that it's very disingenuous when they say that and that they should …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:51 AM
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There's always an underlying reason. Those reasons are often luck based but There's anyways a reason. I don't think there are any men that where unexplainable why they suck with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:47 AM
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I think you have to do it before hand. If you've already married a woman who settled for you then you already lost. If you identify that you're betabux material and accept women will only ever view you as the stable guy to settle down with after they've been ran through by hotter guys then you can try to maximize the transaction and aim for as hot of a woman as your money allows you to get. Either that or just never marry and make them a "forever girlfriend" and then when they dump you after get…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:00 AM
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I think its worth breaking it down by looks tiers. The typical man is never lusted after regardless of age so its neutral. He's just as unremarkable at 40 as he was at 20. The few men who qualify as physically attractive can make it last longer because the traits that make a man attractive are more rooted in bone structure which don't go away. For women being attractive is common but more temporary because it's rooted in youthfulness and soft tissue features like breats, fat tissues, skin textur…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:52 PM
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I somehow doubt women have the same reaction when rejected by a tall guy. It's the same with treatment. If a short guy treats a woman badly in a relationship Ive seen them say "and after that I never dated another short guy and have been much happier" However if a tall guy mistreats them they are more than happy to give tall guys a chance again. If a short guy is an asshole it's "short man syndrome. If a tall guy is an asshole, its just a fluke.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:49 PM
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It's enough of a discrepancy that it indicates that they probably are more often than not. There's no shot that if the stat was men initiate divorce 70% of the time that they'd be given the same charitability than women are right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:45 PM
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It's the same if a guy marries a younger more attractive woman and then she takes him for everything he has. How many women are going to be sympathetic to his complaints?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:34 PM
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It's mentally not physically. The guy won't notice a difference in tighness but she'll definitely notice the difference in size between an average dick and one the size of her forearm lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:22 PM
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Men cheat slightly more but no where near enough to explain the 70/30 split for who initiates divorces
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:20 PM
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After she's been sexually ruined for normal sized guys. Interesting. Normally the guys with the huge dicks get around more. Thats why it's so common for women to have an ex with a huge dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:17 PM
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Not without valid reasons. Even if they don't know it's still an L for the guys who get her after. Let me guess, does that ex with the huge dick happen to be a fuckboy that has slept with lots of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:08 PM
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damn rip to your future boyfriends ⎧ᴿᴵᴾ⎫◟◟◟◟◟◟◟◟ ❀◟(ó ̯ ò, )
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:01 PM
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omg that's brutal what was your breaking point that got you to finally end it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:57 PM
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The median salary for women is not over 60k so if that's mediocre then most women are mediocre
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:16 PM
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I'd pay for her to get laser hair removal
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 10:54 PM
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Whatever number I give you, you’re not going to be happy with. See! More reason to just tell me the number since I'll be unhappy regardless. Besides, since when do you really care about what I think? 😂 Have we spoken before?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 10:52 PM
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Why even bring up the concept of a good salary if you're unwilling to elaborate on what you define it as
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:55 PM
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let me guess 250k?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:28 PM
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what do you consider the minimum for a "good salary"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:21 PM
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Women are mediocre too
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:21 PM
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Its more that their lived experience has shown them they've had no chance with women and then red pill validates and offers explanations/strategies for their situation. Red/Black pill are the only groups that actually listen to men. The mainstream just shits on them and labels any man that voices any frustration over dating as an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:11 PM
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Both face a stigma but obviously it gets worse with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 03:28 PM
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They are mostly saying that a guy who admits to being a virgin is a red flag and to be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 03:25 PM
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It just seems one sided if hes hotter, makes more money and cooks for her. She's definitely getting the better end of that deal is all I'm saying. Also some people are with their partners for who they are not because of the services they... lol women absolutely judge men based on what they are getting out of him financially and otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:55 PM
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This makes sense and is why women are more likely to give promiscuous men a pass. You're getting a guy who is above average desirability and is giving you what women find difficult to get from men (commitment and exclusivity. All the other women just got sex which women view as "low value and abundant" while you get what the other women wanted but failed to get. It doesn't work in reverse tho. A promiscuous woman who then turns around and makes the husband guy wait for sex and lay for dates is g…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:33 PM
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It wouldn't make a difference because it's about the overall difficulty on a population level not on an individual basis. Secondly the difficulty aspect is being taken too litterally. The difficulty isn't the direct cause of why men view promiscuous women worse
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:25 PM
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Isnt that op's point? He's saying most women view virgin men as weird and undatable so those guys are better off lying about their experience and getting practice girlfriends to catch up. Meanwhile women are like "no be honest so we can reject you mkre easily and you can stay in your current predicament indefinitely like we want you to"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:21 PM
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Depends on what you mean by promiscuous. I dont think most women are wracking up 20+ body counts. However what happens is even the women with low to average bodycounts still have casual sex on a per exception basis and when they make those exceptions they are generally doing it for the same type of guys every other woman is making exceptions for. So a woman might have a bodycount of 5 where 1 was a fwbs but that fwbs was probably a chad or fuckboy or athlete.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:17 PM
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If he's hot, a breadwinner and cooks for the girl then what exactly is he getting out of the arrangement?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:04 PM
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I think we'll have genetic engineering and/or better cosmetic surgery so that the diversity in physical attractiveness becomes a lot less pronounced than it is now. Every guy will be 6'2+ with a perfect hairline, broad shoulders and 8" dick like women want and then personality will take the spotlight of importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:22 PM
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That would be a deal-breaker I think. It's actually worse than bodycount. Like If I had to choose between a girl with n count of 8 who isn't firends with any of her exes and a girl with n count of 3 who is close with one or mor of them then I'd prefer the first girl. The past isn't actually in the past if both me and my girlfriend regularly see/hang out with men she's had sex with in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:48 AM
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lmao your post history shows you posting on r/onlineaffairs and youre critizing people for having boundaries/reservations about a partner being close to their exes > I’ve been waiting for you. Desiring. I met too young, and settled too early. But I don’t want to settle anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:40 AM
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My guess is she would think dating an average guy would be dating down
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 03:09 AM
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I said generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:30 AM
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Generally if the man is going to like you more than you like him you'd be dating down in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:18 AM
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I'd be pretty happy just to have a non overweight girl who hasn't had casual sex with chad and likes to play videos 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:28 AM
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Probably should listen. It only becomes harder to make friends the older you get so enjoy your youth while you still have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:24 AM
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my bad
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:19 AM
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That's the highest?? I could have sworn it was at 1.5 billion once
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:06 AM
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I think they hate her largely because of her fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:00 AM
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I think it would level out and height would just cease to be a factor. Like at a certain point nature comes in where being passed a certain height starts to have health impacts. I think we'd mostly level out at 6'4 or 6'5
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 12:57 AM
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West Elm Caleb?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:39 PM
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The only problem is it's not easy to find them. If we could just look at a woman and be able to see her bodycount like a physical trait I think way more guys would select on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:50 PM
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Well firstly do they actually know your past? There's a difference between accepting a girls past because he doesn't know it and accepting it because he knows and genuinely doesn't care. Secondly, how promiscuous were you relative to him? If your count is 20 and his is 100 you're still modest relative to him. Thirdly I genuinely think it's great if the most desirable men are going for the promiscuous women as that reduces the competition for the non promiscuous woman
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:17 AM
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It's possible that expectations have risen with social media but I also think it's accurate that salaries have not increased proportional to the increase in housing costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:43 AM
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Idk I just thought they would have heard through the grape vine that straights don't fuck as much :/ Yeah gays are a peek into how great things could have been 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:31 AM
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I can get the feeling of satisfaction of earning success financially but I don't see the appeal as much for dating. I'd much rather be a natural at it. Even in movies, anime ect I've always found the gifted prodigy like characters more enviable than than ones that take forever to build themselves up and sometimes still fall short of the gifted ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:29 AM
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I feel this community is a valuable resource 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:24 AM
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Do you actually believe this ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:21 AM
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He really assumed straights and lesbians were having 10+ new partners a week and regular orgies. Are they really that in the dark about what it's like for heterosexuals? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:20 AM
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your clit will turn into a micro penis
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:18 AM
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misogyny That one always makes me chuckle. Now to be clear I don't think all ugly guys are nice and all hot guys are assholes but I think the idea that misogyny will ever prevent a guy from getting laid is equally as retarded. Whether or not you are nice has zero correlation with sexual success. If you are hot and extroverted you will be able to fuck lots of women regardless of whether you are misogynistic and if you are not hot and not extroverted you will not fuck lots of women even if you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:16 AM
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That one hits deep. Like I know arguing with the people here is a waste of time and bad for my emotional health. I don't think I have ever come away from arguing with a ppd woman and thought "gee I'm glad I spent the last 10+ minutes arguing her and have a better outlook on life as a result" However, in spite of how logically I recognize these realities I still keep coming back for more. There's definitely something wrong with me. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:12 AM
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I haven't gotten bored of jerking off so assuming actual sex is at least as good or better then I can't imagine it would.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:09 AM
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are we really not allowed to say Islam is the most batshit crazy religion because it very clearly is it's like whenever another religion has some stupid aspect to it Islam is like "hold my beer we can be even more psychotic than that"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:16 AM
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Lmao at his PR disclaimer at the bottom Also, this does not in any way mean to paint Islam or muslims in a bad light. Islam is a beautiful and amazing religion that everyone should look into
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:15 AM
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I agree with a lot of this actually but with a couple adjustments... I don't think women are actually sexually attracted to those level 7 money men. Very few men will ever get that level of money There's also a lower looks threshold where if a man falls beneath it nothing else will make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:03 AM
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damn straight you tell em it's leviosa not leviosaaa
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:58 AM
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did you feel dirty typing that on a smartphone?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:56 AM
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neither I want the ability to plug our consciousness into a virtual reality that feels lifelike and live whatever lives we want
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:26 AM
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in a way it's not as strict in the sense that every woman is 19 at one point so he prefers a trait that every woman has had meanwhile women prefer traits that most men will never posess so who is really the shallow one? Poor aceofspadegymbro being attacked unwarranted
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:40 AM
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maybe both women have 6 ft 6 figures 6 inches. men have 19 yo, 19bmi, 19" cup circumference
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:35 AM
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There's a woman here who said she used a red solo cup as her profile pic and still got a lot of matches. So technically women don't even need a face to get matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:24 AM
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similarly women want a man with experience but you can't gain experience if women don't want to fuck inexperienced guys women think it's hypocritical for experienced men to want inexperienced women but if an inexperienced man wants an inexperienced woman then they say "lol why would an inexperienced woman want to lose it to a guy who doesn't know what he's doing 🤣🤣🤣🤡💅🏿"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:48 AM
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I never thought looks didn't matter but I did used to think women evaluated it similar to men. I didn't think they were as picky as they are or that they found so few men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:42 AM
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lol you don't actually believe that The swipe data is just an aggregate of how often each gender swipes left vs right. It doesn’t have the reason. However, at the time of swiping you aren’t really going to know how interesting or boring they are. Additionally ok cupid did try to answer that by comparing bio text vs picture attractiveness to see which better predicted matches and their summary was something to the effect of "your looks are worth that fabled thousand words while your actually word…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:39 AM
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toast
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:33 AM
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I'm referring to https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:720/format:webp/1*s8j1k7YlKN8Bqbw5oTQdPw.png
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:32 AM
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Nah they just dont imitate it properly. If they did there would be less complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:28 AM
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hyper chadflation we need to tighten the interest rates on chad cock immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:23 AM
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I said harshER. There's definitely a wider range that can be desired for women than for men on most traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:22 AM
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damn boring and ugly I can't catch a break 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:21 AM
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atlas probably agrees with that for her
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:18 AM
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Lol the specific number isn't important the point is they by their own admission and as shown in swipe data find most men physically unattractive 10 vs 15 vs 20% doesn’t substantially change things here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:18 AM
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I'll bid $21
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:16 AM
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They only prioritize it for casual sex and gaslight men about how the beauty standards for women are harsher than for men despite them finding less than 10% of men physically attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:14 AM
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🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:49 PM
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she killed it by continuing to cheat on us with any server or forum that spreads its channels open for her 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:34 PM
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😭
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:30 PM
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rare to see you round these parts
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:28 PM
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What's the SMV match for a virgin man with excessive iron who doesn't leave the house and has a beanie baby and funko collection? asking for a friend
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:26 PM
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Lol it's not that crazy I love looking into peoples post history before responding. It gives me context on if they are a troll, what they think, if they are a furry ect. Nothings wrong with me wanting a passionate lover who will go hard and deep inside me, because aye! I'm just a human who likes sex, just like a lot other humans. I didn't say it's wrong. I'm just saying a guys dick size does impact how good women will perceive the sex as being while for women there is no equivalent. It's easier …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:23 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:11 PM
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Isn't it the norm for women to care about that especially for a hookup. Even in your recent post history you mention only being able to come if the guy can go deep enough. My point is just its an additional thing men are judged on that women are not in determining whether sex is good. Regarding men being lazy, I presuming you're talking about guys not doing oral? If so I think part of that is for casual encounters there's no exclusivity so there's no garantee a different guy hadn't cum in her re…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:05 PM
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those are basic af I'd be more interested if they were beanie babies or aurora
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 10:54 PM
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I liked Pizza huts cheese stuffed crust pizza but I like dominoes think crust. Pizza Hut never delivered to me so I've had dominoes way more than Pizza Hut. Neither compare to the non-chain local pizzerias
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 10:50 PM
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It's not necessarily that men are selfish it's that women require a lot more in order to deem the encounter good. The level of looks, dick size, skill in bed ect that is expected of men for women to deem the encounter good is just all around higher than what men expect from women. Arguably men already put in more effort into the sexual encounter than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 10:44 PM
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gently...but if you want access to what is probably the body part that sticks out the most on me (my ass), you need inches. So the majority of men who approach me in the first place are well endowed men. Lol, that does make sense from a structural standpoint for sure. I'm with right now and he's 6'2. However, he's Scandinavian and tells me that he's considered short/average where he's from. Even in the Netherlands I think the average is 5'11.5 so he'd still be above average. I know you want thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 08:41 PM
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It's also funny cause they'll complain its wrong for an experienced guy to want a less experienced woman but when an inexperienced guy wants an inexperienced woman then they say inexperienced women want men with experience
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:00 PM
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I think it depends on the age. An early 20s guy who is inexperienced could still realistically get an early 20s woman who is also inexperienced. An older inexperienced guy is probably better doing what you said and gaining experience with more experienced women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:36 PM
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Anyone who goes against the hivemind gets piled on or made fun of for their preferences. can you elaborate on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:11 PM
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The issues come in when they believe this then gives them the right to be awful and disparaging about anyone who doesn't fit their ideal. I mean thats a fair criticism but I also don't think that's a gender specific thing. I see women do it to men all the time as well especially on this sub. They will also insult and mock undesirable men that want a conventionally desirable women just as men mock the conventionally undesirable women that expect desirable men. (We can even see it on this thread).…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:09 PM
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Perhaps but the anatomy/biology results in higher requirements for the encounter to meet the good threshold
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 05:49 PM
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Would you say men are more in need of encouragement if that's the idea they push
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 05:26 PM
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Is it supposed to be surprising that the gender with the higher standards and expectations is satisfied less often
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 05:22 PM
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It's not the norm but it's not incredibly rare either. Keep in mind I'm referring to early 30s not 40s plus. I agree that 40+ men are going to have a much harder time. You've claimed you're a plus-sized woman with an extensive sexual past that bagged a tall big dicked man who significantly outearns you and encourage women they too can beat the odds and do the same. Why can't men too try to beat the odds and end up with women with conventionally desirable traits. Also - going for dick for the sak…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 05:12 PM
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Ok fair, I agree 40+ is a bit too old but I disagree that most interpret a bit on the older side the same. Lot of the women here think even early 30s is too old. Do you encourage men to aim high too?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:56 PM
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As do women with regards their laundry list of standards. If women can decide they'd rather be single than settle for a non 6ft 6 figure earning big dick chad who litterally every other woman on the planet also wants then men too can set their standards high and stay single if they are not met.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:29 PM
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who?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:37 AM
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lol I'm going to need a miracle
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:57 AM
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He looks tall and has a friendly smile
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:56 AM
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ah that's cool congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:54 AM
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🤬
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:54 AM
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Were the others from the server local too or was it just coincidence that you and him were nearby
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:53 AM
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Did you and your guy live close to eachother?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:51 AM
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lower taxes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:48 AM
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How big was the discord server?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:47 AM
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You're ignoring the part where I said "I'm not arguing he should ignore women his own age". I'm just saying it benefits him to include younger women IN ADDITION TO women his own age. there aren’t that many young looking millennials who are single and don’t have a body count below 30. Yes I think that the women over 30 with low bodycounts will generally be off the market already.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:46 AM
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Not being a catch doesn't stop undesirable women from having high standards. The women in your community are prime examples of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 12:57 AM
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Doesn't need most just needs one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 12:44 AM
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How is that condemning? All I said was that most attractive women with a low bodycount over 30 will already be in relationships so if a guy wants one he will need to also look at younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 12:43 AM
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Saggy nuts lol How old are you thinking here? Here you seem to be advocating for women to date older just not more than 10 years. This allows for the possibility than an early 30s man can get an early to mid 20s woman who is closer to him in experience. If you're thinking of an inexperienced 40+ guy then I agree those guys are fucked. If you are a young woman and want a serious relationship and a family - aim for an older man. No more than 10 years. This goes for women of all ages. After your 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 12:03 AM
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That would require him to be able to have casual sex which women are typically pickier about. Also the % of women his age who are single and open to casual sex is likely smaller than the % of younger women who are single and open to casual sex. So even with the "try to gain experience to catch up" strat it still be limited by his ability to attract a younger woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 11:54 PM
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It's the combination, looks young, still single, hasn't slept around. That's going to be a very narrow pool to find. I'm not arguing men should ignore women his age just that he's making it a lot harder if he restricts himself to only looking for women his age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 11:50 PM
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I disagree and even if I accepted that premise, is your logic basically two wrongs make it right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 11:42 PM
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The likelihood of a woman his age looking young still being single and not having a high bodycount is slim to none.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 11:41 PM
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So most women care about dicks more than looks and wealth? When I was single and looking for a great lay for the sake of it, a young, hot and fit 27 year old was just the ticket, each time and every time. so you condemn men going for younger women while admitting you yourself sought out younger men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 10:59 PM
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I don't think see how it's wrong or immoral. A lot of it really just comes down to looks. If he looks young he should be able to get a younger woman. If he's heavily balding and took poor care of his skin that's the real driver of the ick towards age gaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 10:49 PM
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I know men lower their standards for casual sex so the inverse to that is that women are able to be more picky when selecting a casual sex parter. I have even seen women admit that "of course for casual sex the standards on looks are higher. If I just want sex he needs to be super hot". It makes sense that the level of attractiveness required for a woman to want sex with a guy who she doesn't know well and who isn't going to commit or invest in her is going to be higher. Of course there will be …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 06:32 AM
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Height is just an easy example because of how objective it is. I agree that most women want a guy with broad shoulders and a good face in addition to height. It's holistic so guys need to pass a certain threshold on every trait. Being tall with an meh face cancels out just like having a great face but being 5'4 would.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 11:38 PM
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The men who are attractive and extroverted enough to pass womens casual sex standards get to enjoy having sex with the future wives of less desirable men while the women are in their early 20s. What other men might have to earn via paying for dates, waiting and investing emotional energy they get freely offered to them on a silver platter. It obviously doesn't benefit all men but the ones who have the desire for it and the requisite traits to act upon those desires definitely benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 04:15 PM
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my hypothesis is that much of that relates to an increase in the population at low wealth levels, for whom the legal benefits of marriage are less likely to feel relevant. Could you elaborate on that? I could be mistaken but I thought I read that not getting married hurts the lower class more than the upperclass and that getting married is one of the best ways for them to help their offspring rise to higher levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 05:36 AM
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Not only is your height compared to hers such that you need to be sufficiently taller than her you also have to be taller than the other men in her pool. I really don't think men do that. We don't just unamously prefer whatever the boob equivalent of 6'5 is and we aren't going to think the biggest boobed woman in the room is inherently the most attractive/feminine. So much of male beauty standards seem to just revole around bigger is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 05:29 AM
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There are ppd discord servers
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 12:25 AM
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or a short guy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 11:11 PM
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You'd have better luck predicting the winning lottery numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:58 PM
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If we're talking pure intelligence I'd think the subject matters more than the level of educational attainment. For example I'd suspect someone with just a Bachelors in engineering or physics is more intelligent than someone with a Masters in Business or Marketing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:10 PM
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I don't think intelligence has ever mattered for casual sex. What's changed is that since we marry later there's now a longer casual dating phase before people pair off. So it takes longer before intelligence matters and really intelligence only benefits you in long-term dating to the extent it has made you financially stable. If you're MENSA but haven't done fuckall with it and have an average job it's not going to do you any favors for long-term dating either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:05 PM
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I am also not completely my partners "type" and we jave had more than a couple of heartfelt conversations about how its not a great feeling Which of you deviates further from their partners type? just because youre not top 20% in looks as a guy doesnt mean youre going to be forever alone. No, but being the "husband material guy" still doesn't sound that great. And it always seems like the caricature of the men women choose for casual flings is the stereotypical tall, fit, big dick ,sharp jawline…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:53 PM
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I'd still say for men its ideal if he can meet both her initial attraction standards and the long-term ones. Meeting only the longterm ones doesn't feel great especially if she did have casual sex in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:44 PM
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For casual sex did you tend to stick more closely to your type?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:54 AM
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if shes fucking other guys just dont kiss her or go down on her
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:30 AM
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There's less commitment and less expectations with the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:25 AM
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So you prefer bear mode guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:44 AM
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Depends on how coarse/desnse the hair is. So you'd prefer they just let it grow?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:41 AM
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Could be prefernce. I still shave it and trim my other body hair even though I'm an incel and no one's seeing me naked. Just feels cleaner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:40 AM
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maybe he had a small dick
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:36 AM
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Why shouldn't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:29 AM
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Do women not complain about men during girl talk and say stuff they wouldn't say to the guys face. Women are notorious for gossiping to their friends even about their own partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:12 PM
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I think it really just boils down to women viewing most men as physically unattractive and the apps being picture focused. Then it just becomes cause and effect/ supply and demand. The few guys that women find attractive get a lot of matches. The ones who want relationships are taken off the market quickly leaving the attractive guys that just want to fuck around and all the men that women are not attracted to. Then the women bitch about being used for sex and leave the apps further skewing the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:04 PM
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it also wouldn’t be among their most commonly listed fetishes/fantasies
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:00 PM
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is this a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:00 PM
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I don't think any future Spider-Man movie will top William Defoe's green goblin
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:52 PM
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A guy that is tall not balding and successful is unlikely to be a late bloomer therefore like we said the late bloomer women see the late bloomer men as not up to their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:47 PM
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do you say the same about women who think any man that isn't willing to pay for the first date doesn't truly want her and that if he did he would pay? Is that her own personal insecurities/assumptions too?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:46 PM
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What percent of single women(25+) do you think have never sent nudes outside of a relationship and never had casual sex off a dating app?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:39 PM
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I think more often then not it does. These rules/restrictions are disproportionately applied to men that are mid or under while the guys women actually are attracted to don't get made to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:32 PM
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Its why I have zero sympathy for the ones who do manage to fuck up their lives and fail. It's like they had over a decade on easy mode with cheats enabled and still managed to fuck things up, wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:30 PM
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Most women have so I can reasonably assume any woman I'm talking to has had at least one prior sexual partner where she made herself sexually available to him really early one. Of course there might be the exception here and there but like 9 times out if 10 it will be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:24 PM
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Still better than being a guy where there's no point where we have the advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:22 PM
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ikr they can even put a countdown on it accurate within 5 minutes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:21 PM
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If shes done it before for other hotter men then yes it is indicative of that. Sorry but if a woman will send nudes and/or fuck a guy off an app she just met but then with me it's like "bandit I'm not really sure we're a good match I need you to sell me on yourself more" then yeah she's definitely not as into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:19 PM
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But even from the womanshe perspective isn't it just mutual exchange? Like for me to think I'm using someone I would have to think I'm getting the better end of the arrangement to their deficit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:16 PM
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Maybe dynamic was the wrong word. I do subscribe to the "if she wanted to she would" viewpoint or "if it's not a fuck yes its a no". Most women have met men for whom they made themselves sexually available to really quickly and those are the men they truly desired. So if a guy has been chatting with a girl and she's like "meh I'm not sure if I'm interested in you, you need to impress me more" then I don't blame the guy for checking out. It's not really leadership tho I just think for guys its id…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:14 PM
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I mean its not that bad. He didn't insult you or throw a fit. He's just like "this dynamic isn't what I want therefore I'm out". Cutting your losses early and avoiding wasted effort is the right move.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:04 PM
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I disagree. Their views and bitterness aren't typically the original root cause of their singleness. Those developed overtime as a result of extended periods of loneliness and sexlessness. So even if you eliminated their incel attitudes with a magic wand, the traits that made them an incel in the first place are still present.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:58 PM
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I think a feeling of being taken advantage of is a core concept when people talk about being used. When someone says they feel “used” by someone it typically means the person feels their rights have either been violated or they have been taken advantage of in some way, says Meghan Marcum, PsyD, chief psychologist at AMFM Healthcare. https://www.verywellmind.com/how-to-recognize-when-you-re-being-used-5207959
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:47 PM
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true, can't forget that detail
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:40 PM
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He suffocated in a well endowed woman's bosom just like he always wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:37 PM
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More so than if they could change their looks but keep their personality the ame?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:36 PM
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Well the phrasing of "being used for" typically denotes a feeling of resentment or that you got screwed over or a raw deal. Like your mentality seems "well I got sex so it no complaints here" meanwhile when women say they felt used for sex they don't seem to have that same positive outcome on the situation. Also sex is something that many men either don't get at all or typically end up having to earn through time,effort and money invested so if you got that essentially free no strings attached i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:31 PM
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does your husband not match that type?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:27 PM
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I mostly agree. I do kinda subscribe to the idea sex is something women control and decide who gets access to it. That's how it is in nature and even in humans it's very clear that whenever sex has been comodified women are the sellers and men are the buyers. So from that perspective a man getting free no strings attached access to sex is never being used imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:24 PM
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On the surface "I want a partner who I'm attracted to" is totally fine. However when we get into the details of what traits a guy must possess to check that box and how women will simultaneously claim that women face harsher judgment on their looks or that men are more shallow, that's where the disagree comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:19 PM
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Not that I'm complaining Then were you actually used for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:16 PM
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were they correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:14 PM
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Lol what's with you and repeatedly taking jabs at bald men. Did a bald man fuck you over or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:55 PM
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Perhaps visually but psychologically I'd probably feel like I'm fucking a corpse. I'm too neurotic for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:52 PM
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I mean at that point might as well get a sex doll lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:33 PM
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I would consider it success to either get a relationship with a low bodycount woman OR being a fuckboy that just doesn't commit. Ultimately I would like to avoid the redpill stereotype where she had a hoe phase and I only get her when she's looking for someone to settle down with. I think if you're going to date the type of woman who has had casual sex then it's imperative that you are the same type of guy that she would choose for casual sex. Any situation where she views you as only good enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:26 PM
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There was this plus sized model on the Whatever podcast recently bragging about fucking NFL players and bodybuilders. Yet women have the audacity to claim looks standards are higher for them than for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 06:35 PM
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Mewing only works if you are really young and your facial bones are more maliable. If hes gone through puberty he needs orthodontics and/or surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 06:01 PM
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Do you ever call out women for doing the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:58 PM
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because the guys in your country are likely taller as well
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:58 PM
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did you grow up in a low income area?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:41 AM
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You roll in some weird crowds
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:34 AM
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I think guys often cheat just for the variety but don't actually want to swap their current partner while w9men cheat to upgrade and do actually want to switch. Without wanting to swap its not actually monkey branching so because women more often then men want to swap their current partner for the affair partner that's why monkey branching is more applicable to women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:29 AM
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Both can cheat but it's more so women that are always looking for a bigger stronger superior mate to swap to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 07:51 AM
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The difference is likely facial attractiveness. That's more important than height.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 07:23 AM
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Even if a guy gets off the apps, the women he'd be trying to date likely still have a presence there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:05 PM
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Sure, but wouldn't it be preferable to find one who does consider you attractive enough to swipe right on? Like its basically admitting they have two standards "attractive enough on the apps" and "attractive enough irl" where the first standard is higher than the second and you only pass the second admittedly lower standard. And presumably there were guys that she DID swipe right on and have sex with who were able to meet that first standard. So she's basically admitting you are a downgrade comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 05:11 PM
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I lean towards no. I think its important to be the type of guy she would find attractive enough to swipe right on. Id be very curious to see the kind of guys she was swiping right on and matching with and if there's a big discrepancy between me and the guys she was hooking up with from the apps thats not a relationship that's going to last.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:49 PM
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There's enough guys with high bodycounts who care for women to complain about it. If it was only low bodycount men who cared there would not be women complaining about men being hypocritical and judging them for their bodycount despite also having a high bodycount.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:23 PM
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We dont know if that will be the case for gen z. The reproduction rate has been in a steady decline as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:19 PM
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In the past perhaps but the current trajectory is that fewer and fewer people are getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:16 PM
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You can't have two studies that are supposedly accurate and representative with drastically different results for the same variable. If Alex posts one study where the average number of lifetime partners is 4 and another where its 14, they can't both be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:01 PM
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Okcupid used to release stats and articles about trends on their site. One article examined how much picture vs bio matters in determining matches. Their findings? The punchline of the article was "Turns out your picture is worth that fabled thousand words while your actual words aren't worth much" And that was like 2010 OKCupid. I'd imagine 2023 tinder/Bumble is even more superficial. Even if all men had bios you'd still be left swiping like 90% of men based on height and looks like every other…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:49 AM
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Sure, I'm fine with that. It's usually women who oppose mandatory DNA tests, shocker right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:43 AM
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I actually don't think it's the apps fault. Even if they had the best intentions the outcome will be the same. Women only find a small % of men physically attractive especially when a picture is all they have to go on so there's never going to be a dating app where women don't swipe left on the majority of men they see.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:33 AM
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I disagree. I think it should either be mandatory at the hospital or the guy should do it discreetly behind his partners back with one of the store bought tests. There's no benefit to a guy telling a woman before they have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:30 AM
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That Alex guy is not even consistent. So there he's referencing the GSS where the average # of lifetime partners is like 4. However I've also seen him try to debunk redpill with a study comparing height and # of sexual partners where the average # of partners was 14. So two different studies that Alex posts as gospel with two completely different results for the number of lifetime partners. He also often just removes the outliers in his reporting but if we're trying to talk about men who are fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 01:13 AM
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Fuckability is not meritocratic. It isn't about "good enough." You either turn someone on or you don't. Women are not disgusted by most men, they're just not horny the way men are for women. It is tho. Their physical appearance is either good enough or not good enough to elicit sexual desire. They are disgustEd in the sense that the idea of having sex with or dating those men elicits a feeling of disgust. Dating apps are 70% male and even clubs often have "ladies nights" to prevent sausage fests…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 12:03 AM
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How is that not lesser? If there's a tier of guy who are good enough to have sex with and/or date and another tier of guy who the idea of having sex with or date is viscerally disgusting to women how is that second tier of guy not inferior/less compared to the first? Also, most women would not fuck a random hot guy off the street either. Litterally off the street, probably not. However a random hot guy at a club/party or via a dating app, that's a different story. So the few women that are willi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:45 PM
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Lol the guys who dont even like virgins get to have sex with the most virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:49 PM
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I mean even women kinda lean into wanting to be fucked agressively by a large strong man. Womens sexuality could be summarized as "bigger is better". They want big physique, big height, big dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:00 PM
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Huh? I've acknowledged that women find most men unattractive. The point of the analogy is that women have a much higher threshold for what they deem drinkable water/physically attractive. And women absolutely do want to fuck random men, as long as the guys are genetically gifted enough in terms of their physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:55 PM
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You're proving my point. Women find genetically average men disgusting while men find genetically average women reasonably attractive. Just like most men would be fine to drink the Dasani bottled water to stay alive while women view the Dasani bottled water as akin to drinking raw sewage and insist they need Fiji or Evian for the water to meet their threshold for drinkable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:50 PM
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I have an enemy of my enemy is my friend mentality about her. Like she's not a true ally but she's effective enough at pissing off the enemy without getting banned like a man would with her same talking points.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:47 PM
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Yeah, exactly. She gets a higher level of income than what the local men can provide and he gets a more attractive and hopefully less promiscuous woman than he would have gotten in his home country.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:46 PM
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Women concistently rate the majority of guys as being physically unattractive so yeah if a woman claims she hooked up with an average guy people are going to be skeptical
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:32 PM
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Men often overestimate how much muscles women want in a guy just like women overestimate how skinny men want them to be. But yes overall, Chad is a stand in term for a guy that is sufficiently above average in physical attraction and has many opportunities to have sex with women without having to commit or wait/pay for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:30 PM
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Even women regularly admit the guys they go for in their late 20s early 30s are often different they'll just say it's "a natural part of growing older and maturing" And evo pysch researchers also report that for casual sex/short term mating men lower their standards while women are more picky about physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:28 PM
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It's more like this Men are dying of thirst in the desert. Women are dying of thirst in a Dasani bottled water factory because they "have standards" and refuse to drink anything but Evian or Fiji water.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:48 PM
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Women don't typically fuck down for casual so its not as common as pump & dumps.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:45 PM
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Probably less than 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:42 PM
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Most women will say no and the women who do say yes absolutely do not want to be asked out by the shy insecure guys. They want to be asked out by the confident successful guys that are already asking women out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:31 PM
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I did before out of curiosity and I agree it can be a pain. Waxing is definitely preferable if you want to stay smooth for am extended period.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:30 PM
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you're using the most extreme examples tho. Yes the most extreme insecure guy is maybe worse than the most extreme insecure woman but I don't think the average is that different
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:54 PM
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Do you think the same applies in reverse to insecure women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:02 PM
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ok, fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:00 PM
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OLD still comprises of a decent chunk of the dating market/sex/relationships being had. So if we have one chunk that is severely biased in favor of one side I dont think we can handwave it like it doesnt matter at all. Speed dating events and in-person pickup experiments also show similar results where women are far more picky than men. So while those maybe aren't as skewed as OLD it's not like the in person methods are balanced for men either
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:40 PM
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I think if it's deep, it's defitely a benefit where it makes your words perceived as more seductive charming and dominant than they otherwise would be. There are also several youtubers who come to mind where they have amassed a large following of female fans primarily based on their deep voices. And on the flip side if it's high pitched or nasally I think it hurts you causing your words to be perceived as more whiny and weak than they otherwise would. I also think it often triggers "the ick" in …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:21 PM
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damn really? I thought they mainly pegged extreme lookism stuff as blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:55 PM
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Who women marry isn't the best representation of who they are dating and having sex with in their early 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:54 PM
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Yeah it seems women are given more leeway to exhibit either masculine or feminine traits while men still are largely funneled into a singular path. If a woman wants to be a stay at home mom or opt for a lower income career with more worklife balance she's still feminine and desirable However if she wants to climb the corporate ladder and be ambitious like men were typically expected to do she's still womanly but any man who is less ambitious/wealthy than her is written off as not a real man/less…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:51 PM
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I think redpill agrees with that too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:30 PM
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Yeah I dont think most people actually do. There's a lot of hooting the shit with coworkers, goofing off on phones ect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:29 PM
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Well naturally guys who struggle or have struggled at one point are going to be more likely to gravitate towards spaces like this. That much should be obvious imo. Also dating is complex and people's experiences can and often will be very different depending on the attributes they posses. We aren't all playing the game under the same starting parameters. One guy might say it's very easy to get women and just be yourself and women will naturally want to have sex with you while another might say i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:50 PM
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It's also dumb cause it's within their power to change. If it turned out that guys who shaved their entire bodies got laid more as a result guys would do it in droves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:40 AM
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commenting here since automod misgendered me and removed my comment Yes but I would prefer they shave their legs. Although I'd be open to shaving mine if it genuinely made her more attractive to me but not if it's just a petty "If I shave mine then you have to shave yours" sort of deal
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:39 AM
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lol good point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:29 AM
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here women swipe no on 95% of men, men swipe no on 47% This mostly shows that the men and women in the sample highly overrate their own attractivenes, men being more off. That's not surprising. If men rate themselves more along a normal distribution but women rate most men as unattractive then of course mens self ratings will be more off. female faces were rated as more attractive than male ones, by both males and females. Women also have much higher rates of bisexual attraction than do men so t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:55 PM
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Basically all dating apps from OkCupid to Tinder have shown this trend as do speed dating event. You can also just flat out ask women how often they see men they find physically attractive or what percentage of men they find attractive and see the result for yourself. This was also posted here recently https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/17o4rf8/comment/k7xtylu/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:06 PM
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If it doesn't make a difference then just dont wear it. Like what's your argument here? You are forced to wear it to meet mens standards but simultaneously it doesn't make a difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 05:09 PM
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I agree that 90% is stretching it but it is true that the % of women that men consider attractive is considerably higher than the inverse. Men rates womens attractiveness according to a normal distribution while women rate most men as unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 05:07 PM
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Well obviously if you have butt length hair it will be higher maintenance than shoulder length. Do you need to have butt length hair for men to find you attractive? It's not permanent and you need to spend 2 hours for the lady to go through your whole body and still shave since hair has different growth cycles and you will have random patches of hair. I thought it was permanent after you have enough sessions and that each time you have it done less hair grows back and whatever hair does grow bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 05:05 PM
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Most of that you put yourself through. Like do you really think the number of men interested in you will be drastically different if you stopped getting manicures, spent less money on creams/perfumes and spent less time brushing your hair? I really dont think it would. Now shaving body hair does make a difference but I'd just get Lazer hair removal if I was a woman. That's way cheaper and easier than a guy needing to get limb lengthening surgery to meet women's height preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:16 PM
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Id happily accept that over being stuck with something that can't be fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:31 AM
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I'm referring to beauty standards pertaining to sex and dating not necessarily what advertising agencies push on people. Also I'd much rather be told I need to wear makeup and dress a certain way to be attractive over being told I need to be over 6ft tall to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:11 AM
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huh? Beautiful women and ugly women are both being judged by the same beauty standard, it's just that the former pass it and the latter fail to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:07 AM
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I just want women to admit that they actually have it easier when it comes to beauty standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:14 AM
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You did, or at least you strongly implied it my exes were all very good looking. I need my men to be hot Is he not hot? Was it a case where you settled for a less attractive guy cause he made a lot of money? (I saw you mentioned he makes 7x your income and is a recent Andrew Tate fanatic 🤣) I would be sad too. It feels so good to finally talk to a woman who understands me 🥹 if you wanna try an ugly guy again hit me up, Ill overlook you being a single mom And the amount of time you spend on ppd y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:48 AM
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Ok fair enough. Maybe your hot husband can offer you support when he's not busy fucking his side chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:33 AM
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I hope it works better the second time around. I'll be rooting for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:23 AM
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Maybe she will
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 05:35 AM
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I was browsing dating over 30 and found this gem... I used to think I wasn’t shallow and that it was pure coincidence that my exes were all very good looking. Then I tried dating an objectively unattractive guy who seemed nice. I could not even hold this guy’s hand let alone kiss him. And he was such a nice decent guy too, I felt so bad. Had to end it when I realised even the side hug at the end of a date was too much for me to bear. I need my men to be hot, sorry. Guess I’m shallow like that...…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 05:33 AM
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Considering male bread earner relationships far outnumber the female breadwinner relationships I'd bet there's more relationships where the man earns more in that egalitarian bucket too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:31 PM
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good point So per the article a man making 60k and a woman making 40k would be lumped into that egalitarian bucket despite the fact he makes 20k more than her
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:51 PM
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Well there's plenty of terrorist sympathizers on r/Palestine that aren't being smacked down
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:55 PM
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lol Halloween being around the corner must be affecting the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 11:36 PM
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Google image search "creepy man" and then search "charming man". It's no coincidence that all the pics of the first are conventionally unattractive men and all results for the second are conventionally attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:49 PM
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This is probably somewhat true. The promiscuous women mainly only fuck a minority of men. So the men they aren't fucking get the worst of both worlds. They don't get to enjoy the fun commitment free sex that the promiscuous women offer to the chads and fuckboys. And they also dont get a woman who abstained from casual sex and are demonized for even caring about a woman's sexual history. So they get this raw deal where they are excluded from casual sex and then have to pay for dates, wait and com…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 05:34 PM
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who is that guy then lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:39 AM
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he's your bf?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:16 AM
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I don't know of this mustache man you speak of.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:11 AM
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I wish. I'm still a cuddless virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:10 AM
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Were they tall and attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:08 AM
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drug dealer 30M
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:07 AM
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Do they expect me to become vegan too? If yes then it's a dealbreaker. If no then I'd be willing to try dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:06 AM
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I wouldnt say it's the main reason for me but it's definitely a big selling point to have someone to cuddle with at night or while watching a show/movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:31 AM
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You gonna post it on tiktok too?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:11 AM
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David did.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:28 AM
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I'd only want a son if I could genetically engineer him to have the traits that are deemed valuable. In lieu of that, having a daughter is a safer bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:27 AM
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Women will milk desperate lonely mentally ill men for as much money as they can and call that financial freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:14 AM
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I feel like I got fucked over too. My dad's 6ft, mom's 5'6, grandfathers were 6'1 and 6'4 and I only made it to 5'9. I would always hear stories about how much women loved my 6'4 grandfather. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:07 AM
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So? If they get better results there and have the financial freedom to travel for extended periods then good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:05 AM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 04:22 AM
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It's funny "I'm scared of stds" is a fine excuse to not want to date bisexual men but if men use that to justify not wanting to date women with high bodycounts then it doesn't fly. I wonder how many of the women who get the ick over bisexual men are the same women that object to men judging women on their sexual pasts
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 04:01 AM
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hmm, that is a very good point actually
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 06:51 PM
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Is it actually the testosterone causing the issues or are the men seeking these treatments the same men that would have had fertility issues regardless? Also is it not true that having higher testosterone generally correlates with a lot of positive things like drive, confidence, calmness ect?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 06:43 PM
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I mean he got to have casual sex with 125 women so I guess it worked out well for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 06:40 PM
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lmao I feel like I'm losing my mind here. Even women regularly say the benefit of feminism is that "women are free to sleep with more people unlike in the past". So which is it were women in the past more sexually restricted by purity culture and lack of abortion access or were they just as promiscous as the women today??
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 06:01 PM
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I think theres way more men than women that would be down to marry at an earlier age. Women still hold men to 18yo standards ie wanting him to outearn her, pay for dates, buy her that ring that needs to cost six months of his salary, having an elaborate celebration with the white dress symbolizing purity 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:59 PM
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I believe people in academia generally prefer in person as it's more reliable and easier to control to make sure it's representative than with online surveys. Regardless, I think it doesn't make sense to merge the two datasets. The trend prior to 2022 should be separate from the trend with the new method so I'm curious to see what the next report looks like woth the new method.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:33 PM
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Same reason women never pass up a chance to tell us how worthless most men are in their eyes or how men under 6ft or who don't have big dicks or six figure salaries aren't real men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:01 PM
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Im not saying it never happened. I'm saying that it's more common now. Are you really going to tell me the average number of sexual partners and % of people that married as virgins is the same then as it is now??
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:54 PM
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Link me something the says the average man had more sexual partners pre sexual revolution
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:50 PM
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There's no shot there were more fuckboys in a time period where there was no birth control and sex outside of marriage was more heavily scrutinized than in modern times where we have birth control, abortion and less sexual scrutiny. I’m assuming you cared since you brought up the fact that they can be husbands. They can’t. They’re just as under qualified as the women they engage with. I mentioned it cause I misinterpreted one of your comments thinking you were implying they struggle to get marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:45 PM
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If a man was to complain that every woman he's dated has been a gold digger and used his experiences to say women as a whole suck, yall would absolutely blame him. But suddenly when it's a woman she gets a lot more benefit of the doubt despite her having way more choice than men do. Yes if most of the men a woman has dated sucked that's what she's attracted to. Look at the men here. Do you think a woman choosing better would be to pick a lonely bitter man How did they become that way tho? From w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:30 PM
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I doubt it was most men doing that especially considering no birth control and more societal shaming of promiscuity back then. The average n counts are higher post sexual revolution than pre. Yall keep using the minority of men to explain the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:24 PM
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The fuckboys of the past outside of gangis kan and kings did not get as many women as modern fuckboys. Especially pre birth control and sexual liberation. That's why to your point std rate is higher. Fuckboys are able to sleep with more women. Most fuckboys can’t get/stay married because they’re bad husbands. Who cares? Being a husband is not a prize or honor anymore. Marrying a modern woman is not a win. Being able to fuck her without commitment is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:21 PM
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Men do not have that same luxury to have all their expectations met like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:18 PM
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I literally just explained why.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:50 PM
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How are they getting less sex? Their forefathers would fuck maybe one woman at most. The modern fuckboys have probably slept with 20 before they even graduate college. And they are getting 4k high definition nudes, anal, porn style sex with early 20s women. Most fuckboys can get married too if they want. It's like if you can jump over a 3 foot hurdle you can obviously jump over the 2 foot hurdle. Outside of rare exceptions there's no such thing as a guy who has easy access to casual sex but can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:49 PM
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lol The guys who are fuckboys are getting way more out of women for way less. Their forefathers would have needed to wine and dine and marry a woman to have missionary sex with her. The modern fucmboys are getting way more sexually than their forefathers could have ever dreamed. They are enjoying sex with a much greater variety than most of the forefathers too outside of maybe kings and Gangis Kan.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:35 PM
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I mean more shitty dating behavior in current times. Women have more choice than they've ever had, argubly way more choice than men currently have but still pick guys that they inevitably end up bitching about. Like to me if someone has a 95% outwards left swipe rate and a 60% inwards right swipe rate as many women often do and still mostly date toxic guys that's kinda on them. “chose to fuck share him.” More like extensive rape and coercion. Even in bonobos where females have complete choice th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:29 PM
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Average guys are generally not able to be fuckboys. those groups are perfect proof, men who get posted in those groups are rarely chads If hes actually sleeping with multiple women simultaneously he's not going to be average. Lots of the guys women post there npw are just to shit talk the guys looks. However the guys who are actually fucking multiple women are usually above average in some capacity. Perfect public example was West Elm Caleb. It's not coincidence the guy who went viral for being …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:24 PM
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In regards to women complaining about being used for sex, situationships, dating the same guy other women are dating, it's not average men and incels who are able to pull it off. At a high level mens and women's complaints are perfectly explained by OPs comments. Women complain that guys use them for sex, every guy is a fuckboy, "are we dating the same guy" ect. Men complain that they struggle to get dates especially on dating apps, can't get casual sex like women can, are used for free meals, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:16 PM
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Why haven't they learned then? They seem to keep repeating the same habits despite supposedly being aware of what to look out for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:11 PM
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A couple distinctions... While I do not think its new I don't think it was equally as prevalent throughout history. It was probably most common in prehistoric times but less common in 1950s than in 2023. Men are still expected to be the higher earners, pay for dates ect but their wives are definitely more ran through by fuckboys than they used to be. And in prehistoric times the males would never have been forced to invest in or stay a woman. They could fuck her and leave her with the consequenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:10 PM
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Google "GSS 2022 Whats New" and download the PDF. They mention it there that they switched from in person to web sampling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:32 PM
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They changed their survey methods for that most recent datpoint from in person to online.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:37 AM
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Would you criticize a woman for venting about a crush not liking her back?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:21 AM
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I think the disconnect is maybe that women never really have to consider a scenario where the guy isn't going to give her what she wants in terms of dates marriage ring ect. He either does it or she finds someone who will. Men don’t have that same luxury of selectiveness/leverage so they often come to terms with not getting to have certain sexual experiences that maybe he would have liked to as long as she hadn't done it for others either. When she has done it for others it's just insult to inju…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:07 AM
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I mean, you are not committing to her Then why specificify "behind the providers back"? Is the provider not committed to her in this hypothetical? I'm confused. ok, understood, you are talking about the girl who thinks she is one and only. I'm talking about the typical woman. Most women don't seem to want to be the side chick or fwbs girl over being the gf or wife. If what you're saying is true then women shouldnot care about ever being proposed to. They shouldnot care about being in a situation…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:58 AM
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I genuinly want to see more honesty but not the way you do it. Not women being inflammatory on niche reddit forums. I want it to be so common irl that most men lose complete interest in marriage. I want womens honesty to be so public that no one can ever disagree with blackpillers and incels again. The way yall currently do it is in the shadows and with too much plausible deniability so blackpillers are still called delusional and made fun of for what they say about womens nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:45 AM
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Lol most side chick's are not getting free board and channel bags outside of maybe sugar babies/only fans girls who are basically prostitutes for male athletes and celebrities. you get to fuck a Chad of your choice behind the provider's back Good old female loyalty Hope it clarifies. It doesn’t cause womens top dating complaints I see are men being uncommitted, only wanting sex, being used for sex, situationships, are we dating the same guy ect. If what you're saying is true the complaints shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:36 AM
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Young women only really have to compete with other young women for the men they want. 30+ women have to compete with other 30yo women AND women in their 20s. So from that perspective it gets harder for them. Most men are equally as invisible to women at all ages of their life. For the men that are genetically gifted their options do increase as they get older because they can get women younger than them and women their own age. But very few men fall in this bucket
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 10:41 PM
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Odd, women still expect men to outearn them and pay for dates despite their increased participation in the labor market
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:54 PM
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Maybe if women didn't see dates as putting sex tokens in a slot machine to win access to a mans bank account then women would be less upset too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:11 PM
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Some guys have cuckhold fetishes where they get turned on by letting other men fuck their wife but that doesn't mean all things are equally desired. Point is for virtually no men is it a win to wait and pay for dates who was sexually easy for other men. The best is maybe some men will be indifferent or tolerate it if they can't do any better but no one really considers that scenario a win for a man just like very few women consider it a win to be a side chick. They shouldn't date if they're goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:04 PM
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There will be some variability depending on the man but I'll summarize it as such... Getting a relationship from a woman who didn't have casual sex and has a low body count is a win for relationship oriented men. Getting casual sex is a win for casual oriented men. Getting casual sex and a relationship from a woman who doesn't normally have casual sex is a win for men who want both. Having to wait and pay for dates for a woman who puts out right away for other men is a Loss regardless of whether…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:41 PM
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For example they’ll say they don’t like the “whore” but will pay for the OF model’s content How many men do you really think are paying for OF content? From what I gather it's similar to micro transactions in videogames most aren't paying but the few who do pay a lot. Most women probably don't want to date the types of guys who would subscribe to an OF model anyways so why are women thinking "gee these guys I would never fuck are simping for her, I want to be more like her" ? they’ll say they li…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:24 PM
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So you don't think there would be any general trend with the answers? I also doubt you write women's assertions about men off as just assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:57 PM
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If a woman had started off casual with guy A without making him wait or pay for dates and then with guy b he has to pay for all the dates and wait a month for sex, which guy do you think most men would rather switch places with? And similarly if one girl is the bootycall of a guy and another gets to be the one he is exclusive with who he pays for dates with and waited for sex with which girl would most women want to switch places with?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:47 PM
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So in your view most women would feel more flattered and prefer to be the fwb of a guy than be his girlfriend? And if so why is women's number one complaint seemingly about guys being noncommittal or being stuck in situationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:44 PM
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The difference is men treat the girlfriend better than the hookup girl based on what women value and are validated by. Women treat the hookup guys better than the boyfriend guys based on what men value and are validated by. So unfortunately our desires are conflicting where whoever cares the least wins. Women will give the fuckboys what they want and get burned while the simps will give women what they want by waiting for sex and paying for the dates after she spread her legs for free for the fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:25 PM
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I would be. It doesn't make any sense to me otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:59 PM
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Bad in what way? I dont think they are evil or cruel people but probably suboptimal relationship canidates for people that prefer modesty and loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:58 PM
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Strip club is probably different from OF subscribers. I don't think most OF subscribers have girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:56 PM
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Are you not also man blaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:56 PM
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It's so weird too like they fully support the OF thots like "yes keen get that bag, rinse those lonely desperate losers for every cent they are worth" but then simultaneously act like the male customers are the immoral ones lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:26 PM
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tfw when youre an incel but still know more about women than Freud 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:24 PM
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you've found a new side hustle
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:14 PM
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It's was women making light fun of eachother regarding spending. The boy math trend is more mean-spirited and about dating stereotypes. So to me and equivalent to that would be men making mean-spirited girl match trend about women dating stereotypes and that would be more likely to be banned from tiktok
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:36 PM
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Yes but that version was more about spending habits not dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:27 PM
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Exactly I feel like it makes the most impact for normies. Incels won't get laid regardless of whether they live at home and chads can still get laid even if they live at home or in a shifty apartment with a mattress on the floor. Normie guys probably will notice a difference tho
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:24 PM
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Tall, broad shoulders, symmetric masculine face with a touch of beauty without being too pretty. Full head of hair, big hands, big dick deep voice. Confident, outgoing, capable, smarter and more successful than her but views her as an equal. A feminist who pays for all the dates and fulfills traditional male gender role while allowing her to deviate from hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:21 PM
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I dont have a Twitter account and Elon doesn't allow you to view threads while not logged in anymore 🤬 Eh agree to disagree on the second part.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:18 PM
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Intersting I have never heard it used that way before but Im a white suburban boy lol Are you sure he meant the lesbian one tho? To me the hot guy version makes more sense in that context :/ The issue is most women in those neighborhoods have been harassed by men at gas stations. I hope that distinction makes it clearer! I definitely get the distinction but sometimes it feels like women use the outliers to justify the idea that men as a whole are the same as those examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:10 PM
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Lol men could definitely make a girl math version but it'll get banned on tiktok because only shitting on men is allowed
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:04 PM
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I dont live at home anymore but when I did it was definitely the latter for me although my income isn't that high especially by the standards of the women here. But yeah my thought process was "with how shit the economy is why spend thousands of dollars every month to some dickhead landlord when I can just save/invest most of my paycheck" and since I wasn't going to be getting laid either way the whole women find it unattractive wasn't really a deterent for me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:01 PM
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wait since when does stud mean butch lesbian? I thought it meant hot guy Overall I agree in that even as a guy I'm going to be weary of a group of men lingering around a gas station especially if they look lower class. That said I don't think it's most men. To me it's like this, most men are in the middle but men are also overrepresented in the outliers on both sides so in a way men represent both the best and worst humanity has to offer while women are even more congregated in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:57 PM
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I'm gonna call bullshit on the guys not being hot. There's no shot that attractive, funny smart successful low body count women are fan girling over abusive unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:01 AM
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Of course not cause men are the ones expected to pay. At best maybe the woman will go 50/50 but a woman paying for the guy is like unheard of. And not once have I assumed that a man owed me a sexual favor because I brought sandwiches along on our date. Not even boob stuff. and most men haven't experienced a woman expecting sex from him Because you know what? I don't want sexual attention from anyone who isn't attracted to me. Sure wish men could say the same. If a woman agreed to go on a date wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:54 PM
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the funny thing is she's not even trad, she's slept around and had a hoe phase when she was younger trad men are taking major Ls out there today if they fall for this shit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:37 PM
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do you believe going on a date entitles you access to their money
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:29 PM
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I think both sides exaggerate. A guy doesn't have to be a male model to get laid but he also doesn't need to be deformed to struggle or be invisible. I think anything under 60th percentile in most traits will struggle. A guy probably does need one or two above average traits to do well especially for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:07 PM
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exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:50 PM
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I don't think a guy has to be severely disfigured to be an incel or struggle to get women. Especially if we're talking about getting casual sex/situationships the standards for that are likely even higher than just getting a gf
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:14 PM
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Even pornstars can get married. Also bodycount is easily hidden.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:53 PM
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Yeah but if it needs to be over 8 before it's a problem it kinda emphasizes how too small becomes a problem way sooner than too big does. Also it's odd how seemingly every woman claims to have fucked guys over 7 inches despite those guys being a minority. You're even saying you've had 12 before. So seems like women do seek those guys out somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:20 PM
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You dont understand because you have never and never will be in the situation he's in. I doubt it's easy for him to do but if hes going to leave sooner is better than later. If he gets divorced but stays in the child's life's he's still going to have to be in the mother's life too and it's going to be way harder to find a new gf when he's still financially obligated to support the child of his ex who cheated on him. LOL Why lol? She'll probably have much better odds pressuring him to step up tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:36 PM
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He didn't know right away. Why can't the mother get the guy she cheated on him with to step up and be the father. If he does then thr child will have a dad in his life from 6 to 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:18 PM
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The funny part is the same women that say DNA tests shouldn't be mandatory or that its offensive for the guy to request one are the same women saying hes an asshole for not raising the kid who isn't his. It's a lose/lose. I agree tho I don't care ifits considered an asshole move I wouldn't raise a child that isn't mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:51 PM
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oh you must be a andrew tate incel redpill goober" And even that is more of an effect of them not getting laid rather than a cause. Guys who struggle with women look for help and if no one other than Tate and Red Pill are willing to sympathize with and help them then naturally thats who they'll gravitate towards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:48 PM
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If average women are less willing to date average people than average men are that would suggest that women are more shallow. I think if we went trait by trait, the range that women consider acceptable is much more narrow than the range men consider acceptable. Height is a perfect example of this. Why is fatness a whole other debate? Do you disagree that fat women don't want fat men? or that fat women can get sex and relationships much easier than fat men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:43 PM
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So are you aknowleging that blackpillers are correct that women are more shallow than men? I dont see how women have the nerve to complain about beauty standards or body positivity when they are even more judgmental than men. You seem to be acknowledging that average women don't want average men. Fat women don't want fat men but complain about fatness being unnatractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:21 PM
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It's allowed but that doesn't mean everyone is obligated to accept you or feel flattered. I don't think women are keen to give chances to guys who slept with prostitutes in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 07:51 PM
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It's still gonna be dependent of bone structure. Skinny seems like much more of a niche where only certain guys can pull it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:26 PM
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That's kinda like fat women they can pull it off if they carry the weight properly. Skinny guys can pull it off if they are simultaneously skinny, tall and have wide collarbones.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:14 PM
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Not just fat dudes, they also often rule out skinny and skinny fat guys too. The only attractive body type for men is some variation of fit/muscular.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:04 PM
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It depends on height and generally guys care more about how she carries the weight than the specific number itself. What women consider ideal for men's bodies are no more realistic than men's preferences for women's. You've never heard a woman say she wants a masculine guy or a real man?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:59 PM
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Ok let's say average is 7, and a woman has 18. I think if it was public information the pool of men willing to take her seriously for a relationship would be smaller than if her # was 7. Just like how a 6'2 man has a larger dating pool than a 5'9 pool. The main difference is that womens numbers are hidden. If their numbers were out in the open for everyone to know then it would play out like height. What? An older guy could still care if he knew her # was noticeably higher than what is average f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:44 PM
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Whats wrong with "don't be fat"? Women don't want fat men either so it's not even a gender specific preference. What does this even mean? What do women mean when they say they want a guy with a masculine personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:38 PM
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There's a wide variation in "had sex before". It can range from just a couple to 100s. Even at older ages it not uncommon for men to not want someone who is well above relative to their age bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:27 PM
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this
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:25 PM
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There will still be adults who care too but the thresholds will be different. If womens body counts were listed above their head it absolutely would impact who is willing to take them seriously for a relationship and who isn’t. Women just benefit from the fact their pasts are hidden.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:05 PM
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Most guys aren't hot enough where she'll like them enough that he's immune to the ick
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:53 PM
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There have been surveys on this and there has never been one where most or even half the participants said they didn't care at all. Even women typically report caring especially in regards to inexperienced men and bisexual men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:42 PM
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Yeah a lot of the time you're getting the worst of both worlds ie a born again trad type/the hoe that becomes a prude just for you. Even pornstars often say their sexlives irl are pretty vanilla especially compared to their work. I also don't get the whole "she chose you argument" like it would be flattering for a promiscuous woman to choose you for her summer fling/fuckbuddy but I don't see how being the guy who has to wait for sex pay for dates and buy her a ring is flattering. She's essential…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:39 PM
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She asked why some care and some don't and the answer is the ones that care experience an involuntary disgust and those that don't care do not experience that disgust. Answering why they experience the disgust would be like answering why some women care more about height than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:17 AM
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I have no time for men who think there should be dramatically different standards for men and women with respect to promiscuity It's not about what ought to be its about what is. Men decide what is desirable for women and women decide what is desirable for men. It's not mens fault if women tend to prefer men with experience while men are more likely to prefer less experience. It's just like how women value wealth and height more than men do in women. I just do not see how that can work in a mode…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 12:24 AM
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it's just an involuntary ick just like women have a LONG list of things that give them an ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 12:11 AM
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Men complain about being used for free meals or for their resources. Women complain about being used for sex meanwhile men have more of a "still hit tho" attitude about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:45 PM
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Thr average guy doesn't get too hookup with the party girls and bad bitches. And women typically like being the wife material girl because she's the one that gets the ring and his financial investment while the other girls just got sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 08:14 PM
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I think very often they did hence women complaining about situationships and feeling used for sex. It's the female equivalent of the friendzone. Why wouldn't guys hate being the BB? They don't get to have as much sex as the AF guys and they finish last. Their wife put out right away and was more attracted to that guy meanwhile he has to wait and pay for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 08:13 PM
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Are you admitting to AF/BB
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:42 PM
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Well no shit. Unless you tell them or have a reputation it usually won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:53 AM
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Well the thing about sexual history is that it's easy to hide. Most women with high body counts probably never told their spouses and most guys who slept with prostitutes probably dont either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:52 AM
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6 is typically the bare minimum women want not the ideal that's why they always say "at least 6" or "greater then 6" when expressing their preference
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:50 AM
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On the Whatever podcast the host will often ask the women guests if they think sexual history matters and to no one's surprise they usually say no it should not. My favorite part is when the host later says something like "ok but what if a guy has a high bodycount but half of the people he slept with were other men" and the look on the womens faces is priceless. And then they try to hamster around why it's ok for them to get an ick about bisexual men but not for men to get an ick over their past…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 02:31 AM
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what's your secret?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 02:18 AM
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dick size is another A guy with 7 or 8 inches that knows how to use it will generally be preferred over a guy who is only 6 or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 02:13 AM
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Exactly. Most women can fuck above their league for casual sex but only some of them will be able to get a similar caliber guy for commitment. It's usually a big L for whatever guy who gets stuck marrying her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:41 AM
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Surprisingly I agree with them. The point of comparison is the disgust/fear, so since men do not experience disgust/fear being hit on by random women like women do whith random guys they have to use the example of a guy being hit on by a guy. That being said women don't ever give our analogies any charitability.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:32 AM
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did you get the vibe she only goes along with cucking cause he likes it or do you think she's not all that attracted to him and likes being able to get with better guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:27 AM
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Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:23 AM
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Honestly yeah at that price you might as well just pay an escort. You'll at least get garanteed sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:14 AM
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Was the guy dating out of his league?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:20 AM
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Listen ladies: if a man ate Stacy's ass on a first date, but is making you wait 3 months to eat yours, he doesn't love you. Fair Also, if a man has eaten too many asses then he's no longer boyfriend material. My virgin tongue approves this message
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:17 AM
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No please elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 10:49 PM
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Where did I say it was your fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 10:40 PM
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Huh? How does that relate to my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 10:29 PM
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Just like with political beliefs there's a spectrum to what different blackpillers believe. As a general rule they will agree with a lot of what red pillers say about female nature and dating habits but they'll disagree on the influence of game/status and instead think that physical appearance and genetics are the greatest influence on your dating success as a guy and that if you fall below a certain threshold you will never experience "genuine desire" from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:58 PM
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She's basically the same as red pill creators who make videos insulting womens appearances and behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:43 PM
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if there was actually something that worked for that I think most guys would probably do it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:42 PM
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There are some bad apples but I do think the average red piller is no different from the average FDSer or TwoXChromosome posters or the Drew Afualos of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:51 PM
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same lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:49 PM
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They care about both tbh and also how you are relative to the men the girls in their friend group have gotten. If her friends have guys that are over 6ft making six figures she's going to want the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:40 PM
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I mean based on that Bumble height filter chart that's floating around I think like 70% of women set their filter at 5'10 or taller. And supposedly most other guys are lying about their height which puts you at an even further disadvantage since you are being evaluated by your real height while your competitors are being evaluated by their fake height.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:38 PM
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Can you link it? I'm familiar with the red pill guy and know he's tall, decently built and has a deep voice. Its a lot easier to be confident when you have traits that are conventional attractive and desired for which you have likely gotten positive feedback for. Conversely if these black pill guys are short, less attractive and have less masculine voices it harder and less likely for them to have developed confident outgoing personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:35 PM
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Why do dates have to be different? You treat your date because you appreciate his/her company. In turn, if he/she appreciates your company, he/she will treat you back sometime. With friends you already are invested in eachother and there's a reasonable assurance they will treat you back at some point. With dates, she's often a stranger and since most first dates probably don't result in relationships the guy is never treated back. And more than often that same girl probably fucked other guys ear…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:47 PM
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Exactly what red pill says. If she's expecting you to wait and pay for dates after fucking other guys for free early on then its indicative of her not being very attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:43 PM
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Your wife outearns you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:35 PM
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And natural game usually just comes down to good looks especially during formative years which is where black pill comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:39 AM
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Getting off to porn is still a nice stress reliever and sleep aid so I wouldnot want to lose that If I could keep my sex drive but completely eliminate my desire for companionship and be completely content with porn Id do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:37 AM
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Most women have had it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:34 AM
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👀
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:25 PM
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If they prefer those traits why wouldn't they be able to get them for casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:15 PM
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oh don't act like women don't find those traits highly desirable and prioritize them for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 10:25 PM
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average at best
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 10:07 PM
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yeah thats basically my understanding too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:51 PM
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Ok that is a fair point but I think when they mention the skewed gender ratios they are talking more about NYC, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:50 PM
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oh please and how many women find their husband more attractive once his hairline starts to go? how many women actually prefer their husband over the 6'4 athletes with 8 inch dicks she got with in college?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:21 PM
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....well I mean the analogy doesn't have to be followed all the way down the line 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:18 PM
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5'7 to 5'11 skinny fat to mildly toned a face that doesn't stand out as being hot nor repulsive maybe 50k salary
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:16 PM
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I mean my perspective is don't get married. Usually women are the ones pushing for the guy to propose. I think lots of guys would be more than happy to keep women in forever girlfriend territory. Women are both the ones pushing the most for marriage and the ones who push for divorce. I would love to see the marriage rate drop to low single digits or even zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:09 PM
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Not NY but I am in the North East and have spoken to guys who live in NYC. It's not going to be any easier for an average guy there than on the west coast. It's certainly not comparable to the difference going to another country would make. If a guy wanted to geomagnetic locally he'd probably be better going to the middle of the country. Women in LA and NYC are known for being the most shallow women in the country. It's a well know stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:07 PM
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The wife is like an antique car that you bought in your early 20s and keep it because you love it and have fond memories with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:04 PM
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picky as in they'll still reject most men and aim for the minority who are over 6ft, good looking and earn 6 figures
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:02 PM
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From what I understand the women in New York are still super picky even though the gender ratio is imbalanced in men's favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:00 PM
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ah got it yeah I'm just talking about in general but there are always exceptions. I just think for most women who have had casual sex, if we could assemble all the men they had sex with and evaluate them, the men they had casual sex with would probably be more conventionally attractive and more sexually experienced than the men they end up in long term relationships or married to. So for men I think the ideal scenario is if your girl sees you as both hookup material and relationship material. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:41 PM
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I'm confused what do you mean you end up saying everyone you start sleeping with?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:16 PM
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I thought it was 5'9.5 but could be mixing it up with a different country
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:23 AM
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how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:18 AM
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Isn't 5'10 basically the median height?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:00 AM
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enlighten me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 03:18 AM
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he looks like that guy from Mythbusters
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:32 AM
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If they were married it would be 3 houses/apartments. Unmarried it's 6, 1 for each of the 3 women, 1 for each of the 2 chads and 1 for the single childless guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:31 AM
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It's like insult to injury being a single sexless guy. They get a discount on their taxes for being knocked up by some hot degenerate who was either unwilling or incapable of being a father to his kids and then on top of that a percentage of your taxes goes to giving these women a safetynet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:26 AM
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Make a sad and feebile attempt to masturbate and then pass out midway through.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:21 AM
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omg I hope it's him that would be so much funnier
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:20 AM
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meteorness123 ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:03 AM
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the persecution of PPDers needs to stop
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:55 PM
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they asked people to step forward if they've had unprotected sex before, all of the women had but none of the men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:54 PM
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yeah like at least ones about weight or looks make sense but if you were a worm?? wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:48 PM
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80/20 doesn't mean only 20% of men ever have sex. It's more about the distribution of casual sex ie the most attractive 20% of men have 80% of the casual sex. It's also used to reference that women are only physically attracted to the top 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:42 PM
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I'm incapable of feeling love
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:40 PM
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I meant to type 30
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:28 PM
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It's more of a rarity for you to be on the sub
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:14 PM
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I see it a lot on ppd but mostly from the FDS/Two X crowd
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:14 PM
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what are you doing on ppd 😮
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:10 PM
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women do the same thing, they think a guys sperm becomes radioactive the moment he turns 30
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:09 PM
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did I lose?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:08 PM
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At best you get an answer which doesnt add much to your life... at worst your relationship with a person or your week is ruined... what would be the goal inthat? If you find out she wishes it was bigger you could end it and find someone who genuinely prefers your size. Unless the assumption is that virtually all women prefer big and the only way to have her honestly say she prefers your size is if you're hung like a pornstar
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:07 PM
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120 lbs 130 lbs 150 lbs 170 lbs
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:01 PM
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would you love me if I lost my job? would you love me if I was 4 inches shorter?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 10:54 PM
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I mean those seem less dumb than "would you love me if I was a worm"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 10:54 PM
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I really have no idea. I'm awful at guessing womens weight. Her body either looks good or it doesn't, I don't really care about or know the number on the scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 10:52 PM
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I'd rather stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 10:51 PM
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would explain why women seek out big hands and feet
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 10:09 PM
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They deserve police help if they want it. I dont necessarily sympathize with them on a personal level though since they chose those guys and continue to choose them. I'm more sympathetic towards issues that the individual doesn't have as much agency over.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 10:07 PM
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Introversion is mysterious if the guy is tall and hot. Its creepy/weird if the guy is average or ugly looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:15 PM
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I sent it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:14 PM
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I mean obviously they aren't exactly the same but there are some overlapping reasons why I find those career unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:55 PM
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I agree she is an awful choice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:09 PM
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sci and I had a pretty big argument too she said my parents will be happy if I were dead 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:59 PM
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Why don't you join back?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:50 PM
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lol, who are you? Rapskallion?? unkill? What's the one flaw?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:45 PM
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username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:44 PM
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I'd maybe pick the one with 7 n as long as she's not in contact with any of them any more. If she's still friends with her exes then the past isn't really in the past imo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:35 PM
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they dont want blackpill mods and I'm not really as active here lately
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:34 PM
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It's a question for men but some of the people answering seem to be women. Also 5'8 or 5'10 is often the minimum women typically say even outside of questions like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:33 PM
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It's like asking would you rather be set on fire or eaten alive by a pack of lions. Id probably have to flip a coin and ultimately wouldn't be content marrying either women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:31 PM
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For casual sex I think women are able to fuck upwards on the attractiveness scale more so than they can for long term relationships so if she's had a lot of casual and her current boyfriend is average then it's a pretty safe bet that her casual partners were taller,better looking, more experienced and more endowed than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:30 PM
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my interpretation is that 5'8 is the minimum
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:34 PM
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1 Black or brown 2 Any 3 Between 5'1 and 5'7 4 Petite, skinny fat or toned 5 Equal to or less than mine 6 don't care as long as she isn't a sex worker, massage therapist or flight attendant 7 Lower the better, max 10 8 The lower the better, max 10 9 Ideally agnostic but I'm ok if shes religious as long as she's open minded about it 10 heterosexual 11 20 to 30 inclusive maybe ideal around 23 or 24 12 Moderate or not into politics
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:24 PM
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How tall are you and what's you're face like?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 06:43 PM
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If you're fortunate enough that you're able to get non-fat women regardless of how common they are then there's no reason for you specifically to care. However for more genetically average men it obviously makes dating better if fatness wasn't the norm. Every filter reduces one's dating pool so its rough if just wanting someone who isn’t overweight cuts your dating pool by over 50% right out of the gate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 06:06 PM
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this
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 05:10 PM
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women fuck them anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:49 AM
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Fuckboys get both
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:34 AM
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The thing that first got me into it was hearing women give that line "if a guy is boyfriend material I make him wait but if he's a fuckboy I'll sleep with him right away". I remember thinking "well fuck if that's how it is I don't want to be boyfriend material" and I remember being attacked in the comments by women and some men meanwhile the redpill guys were more sympathetic and relatable and then I just went down the rabbit hole as what they said seemed more relatable and understanding meanwhi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:02 AM
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Most porn videos aren't even going for a full hour and even they aren't shooting continuously the entire time usually. I believe that women view 7 as average but I haven't seen any study where that is the actual average aside from maybe in the Congo.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:42 PM
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PPD women are pretty vocal about the idea that hot men suck in bed. Are we on the same ppd?? If anything ppd women say average guys suck and hot guys have the nicest personalities, treat them better and are better in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:24 AM
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It's not bad but it's limited just like looksmaxxing. Women orgasm more from hotter guys so your looks are a factor there as well. And then the more obvious one is the size of your dick. You can only really work on technique. There's a girl in the daily who mentioned her bf is well hung and can last an hour in bed. Even if you bedroommaxx you probably aren't going to win if a woman had an ex like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:10 AM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:57 AM
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Which contributes to men's disinterest in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:56 AM
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I'd marry but I want a woman with a low bodycount who never had casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:45 AM
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I think women can filter on whatever they want but the same should apply to men. I think men should avoid seriously dating women with bipolar disorder and borderline personality disorder as well as women with histories of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:44 AM
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I guess chin count because that level of fatness is just gross to me. I am willing to compromise on looks more than n count overall tho. Like I'd genuinely prefer a 5/10 but not overweight virgin over an 8/10 onlyfans girls
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:45 AM
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Not really. The medical field has a reputation for higher rates of infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:43 AM
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oof she's a nurse probably gonna cheat on him with a doctor/surgeon
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:33 AM
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I do think ai created pictures and deepfakes will eventually make competition more fierce on onlyfans, tiktok and insta.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:29 AM
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that's like most women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:27 AM
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lonely and bullied My home life with my parents was decent tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:27 AM
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I've already had a mediocre childhood without the benefits of being hot. I'd much rather be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:56 PM
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Yeah they say a man should have a low bodycount if he wants a low bodycount woman but also that they don't want a low body count man. It's also funny how many of them who say guys shouldnot judge a woman by her sexual history would not date a bisexual guy. If a woman gets an ick over a man's sexual history it's fine but if men get an ick over a womans then it's not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:55 PM
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I agree with Myr but I'd take option A.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:51 PM
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I'm not much of a turn the other cheek kind of person. I will gladly and with no regrets reflect back the same energy that the other side shows us. I am also not going to take criticism from someone like you seriously. You try to act all high an mightly like you are neutral but I garantee you do not levy these same criticisms towards women that behave as I do. You only attack redpill men. It's only bad when we do it meanwhile the women get a pass from people like you which I'm sure you recognize…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:56 PM
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Does this mean if a guy passes that initial upfront asset check yall aren’t going to complain if he slacks off on the chores? Or is he still going to get bitched at for that in addition to the surcharge he was subjected to? And conversely if a guy meets her standards on the chores will he get leeway if his salary takes a hit and ends up being lower than what was required for that initial asset check or are yall going to deadbedroom and divorce him anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:47 PM
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Because the stats don't back up your claim for that country. However the average height and dick size in sea countries is lower than in western countries. If you wanted a country with bigger dicks you should have picked Netherlands or Congo. If you said those countries I wouldn’t have questioned it. I just said I don't currently have that level of financial stability. That doesn't mean I'm not trying/hoping to become more successful in the future. My point was just its not an option just anyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:42 PM
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Only when it's relevant!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:37 PM
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I'm not saying there aren’t risks but it's also not a garanteed horror story that you and the other ppd women are trying to imply. Actually the average size for Finland is pretty comparable if not the same as in America. You should be going to the Netherlands if you want to prioritize that. Also women don't need to leave its very easy for women to get tall ha dsome guys with big dicks in their home country. Just hop on the dating apps set your filter to 6'2 and up then get them to send nudes and…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:12 PM
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I wasn't thinking of Korea. That country is arguably more superficial and shallow than America.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:00 PM
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It's easier said than done. I don't have the financial security to just abandon my current job and leave for another country. I also don't want to leave my family. I'd rather just stay single and watch porn. I'm just saying for the men who do have that luxury and are willing to leave it is definitely possible they will have better dating outcomes than they would in their home country.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:56 PM
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It's no different than how the women on ppd, twox or fds talk about men. If the guys they knew irl saw what they say they'd be hated/avoided too. Same with bodycounts lots of women keep that hidden from men because they know it would impact their dating pool if guys knew.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:50 PM
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I don't think that's necessarily case nor do I think foreign feminists are equivalent in severity to western feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:48 PM
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Exactly, American women will leave your ass just as fast if not faster if your finances take a hit. There's no negative or risk that you face with foreign women that isn't just as if not more applicable to western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:25 PM
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The women they get will typically be more attractive and lower bodycount than the ones they'd get by betabuxxing in their own country so the perspective is if you're gonna betabuxx and risk being cheated on or deadbedroom either way you might as well try to get the most attractive least slutty woman you can get because then the risk is more worth it. Women have the exact same logic for casual sex ie "if I'm not going to orgasm and risk stds and pregnancy I want the tallest hottest biggest cock I…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:07 PM
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We're on a subreddit dedicated to redpillers arguing with feminists. You really think I talk about this stuff in real life in front of women? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 03:33 PM
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If you get put in a ring with a UFC fighter are you going to feel confident that you'll win?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 03:30 PM
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that sees the manosphere as being wrong, but being attractive due to legitimate grievances about men being left behind. Really? That's the first I've heard a woman give that interpretation .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 03:48 AM
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LGBT people attacked a Harry Potter video game because they thought JK Rowling was involved in the project.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 03:42 AM
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I really want to see them take some average guys buy them a new wardrobe and style there hair then see how much of a difference it makes. I think women are bullshitting us hard. Most of the guys who struggle just aren't tall enough and/or don't have good enough facial aesthetics. Changing their wardrobe isn't going to make a tangible difference in their outcomes with women. Similarly even if a woman wears sweatpants and a t-shirt she'll still get more male attention and matches on the apps than …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 08:51 PM
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I garantee shes just looking at tall guys with handsome faces and broad shoulders and thinking they have good fashion even tho an average or unattractive guy in same outfit would be viewed as a slob.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 08:47 PM
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Hearing and reading about what women say. Other men. Studies that show women orgasm more with bigger dicks and find them more arrousing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 08:39 PM
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Where are you getting your information where you think huys believe women don’t care?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:26 PM
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lol classic lift having the girls in his dms 🤣 Yeah it was fucked up but our server has been purged of the bad actor so we're smooth sailing now what was your reason for leaving in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:26 PM
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lol do you remember me and the other discord members?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:08 PM
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Also did you used to have the username YouAskedIt?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:00 PM
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Yes but there is a relative component to perception. All perception is through one's frame of reference. I have even heard women flat out say they used to be satisfied with average but then after having big they are not anymore. Again this happens with everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:44 PM
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To some extent it can. Sure she's never going to be satisfied with an ugly guy with a microdick but being exposed to chads with 7 to 8 inches can make her less satisfied with average than she otherwise would have been. It happens with everything. Just think of internet or processor sppeds. Speeds we used to think were good or impressive would now be awful by comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:36 PM
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Beat me to it. It's hilarious how many people cite bonobos as proof of how if we lived in a matriarchy things would be better for men but the reproductive skew in bonobos is actually worse than chimps. The bottom 40% of male bonobos don't even reproduce at all
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:37 PM
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Basically yeah. I see it all the time on the whatever podcast, the women talk about how they want a traditional man or how they make boyfriend material guys wait for sex but sleep with the fuckboy guys right away. Traditional guys are taking major L's nowadays. It's better to adopt the if she doesn't put out by third date then ghost her rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:33 PM
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There are lots of places you could have those conversations. Why ppd over r/sex r/dating ect ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:30 PM
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I agree 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:26 PM
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It's just as weird for you to be upset by it. You claim no one actually cares in real life and that you have a chad boyfriend that accepts your colorful past yet you choose to come to a niche sub like ppd to argue with men who you think are an extreme minority about promiscuous women. Seems kinda odd
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:09 PM
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Yeah it's just all the stuff feminists think but in movie form. It's not worth getting upset over tho. Also it's funny they cast Michael Cera as Alan. I saw a YouTube comment of a girl saying "To me Ken was always the badboy but Alan is one Barbie would end up marrying" 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:05 PM
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Couples that marry as virgins statistically have highest marriage satisfaction and lowest divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:02 PM
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Great rebuttal
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:01 PM
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Most women can have casual sex with tall physically fit guys with 7/10 faces and 7 or 8 inch dicks Most women can not all marry a guy with those stats unless they are down to share. Therefore promiscuous women who marry a guy who is on par with their casual sex partners will be a minority
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:58 PM
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why do you spend so much time thinking about and arguing with guys who are upset by promiscuous women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:56 PM
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communication doesn't fix a lack of physical attraction or issues like her husbands dick being only 5 to 6 inches when her favorite fuckbuddies were 7 to 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:54 PM
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I've never asked my mom and don’t have a sister but I have talked to friends and listen to gossip. It's also confirmed by listening to men AND WOMEN on ppd as well as via tiktok/youtube videos like the one posted above. It's also confirmed by evopsych researchers that men fuck down and women fuck up for casual sex which is also just common sense to most people since women have more leverage especially with dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:53 PM
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Generally the women who can honestly say they are most attracted to their husbands either A never slept around or B they managed to lock down an above average guy who matches the caliber of the men she had casual sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:47 PM
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I think its kinda the same as whenever liberals freak out over stuff like the Harry Potter video game it just drives more interest to it. So by freaking out over the Barbie movie it's likely doing the same thing. Also from what I've heard it's not that bad its just a generic men suck and girls rule narrative that has been the norm ever since feminism has existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:45 PM
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It's gaslighting if they try to tell us we're imagining a dynamic/scenario even when we can point to examples of it happening or when they themselves fit the dynamic we describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:38 PM
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This also highlights how the reformed sluts or born again trad women are the worst of both worlds. Instead of the good girl that's bad just for you these guys are marrying sluts that become prudes just for them. Like imagine waiting for sex and paying for dates and then marrying a woman who was spreading her legs quickly and easily for all the jocks and fuckboys only for her to admit she's not actually attracted to you or interested in fucking you. These women are the worst possible women you co…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:19 PM
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It's because if all men knew the truth very few of then would ever choose to get married which goes against womens interests. So hence the gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:13 PM
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Fun fact, in bonobos the reproductive skew is even higher than in chimps where the most attractive male bonobo fathers 60% of the offspring and the bottom 40% of males bonobos do not reproduce at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 02:29 PM
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So if guys wore a greater variety of clothes and wore more jewelry you'd find a similar percentage of them attractive as you do women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:55 AM
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Idk, the way you described him kinda reads like the ex is more attractive than your current guy at least in a carnal lust kinda way. Out of curiosity, did you sleep with the ex really quickly but make the current guy wait and pay for dates first?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 02:47 AM
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Most likely any couple that originates from dating apps will have the man be the more attractive one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 02:12 AM
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I think its just that there is a more narrow mold a man needs to fit to be attractive. Height is a very obvious example of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 02:11 AM
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lol rip to your current partner ⎧ᴿᴵᴾ⎫◟◟◟◟◟◟◟◟ ❀◟(ó ̯ ò, )
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 02:06 AM
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I think people just have had enough negative encounters/experiences with them that they associate them with being argumentive, narcissistic and unpleasant. They also in my experience seem to be the same women who expect the guy to wait and pay for dates despite being financially well off and having a very colorful sexual past where they didn't make the other guys wait or pay. So very often they seem to be the worst of both worlds ie all the negative aspects of dating a traditional girl combined …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 01:14 AM
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Not sure. I think I'd either just get a really cute low body count girl and pair off or become a fuckboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 11:54 PM
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Yeah I mostly just don't want a girl boss type that's always starting arguments and acting like a bitch. I dont want someone who just blindly follows and expects me to do/decide everything tho. 50/50 or at least 60/40 decisions sounds way better. But women interpret not wanting a bad bitch as wanting a docile slave as if they can't fathom the idea of a middle ground between the two
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 11:06 PM
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Guys ideal is either marrying an attractive low body count woman or being able to sleep around and then still get an attractive low body count woman for marriage. Womens ideal is to marry a guy who is very attractive who makes more money than them and fulfills traditional male gender role or to have casual sex with attractive men and then still marry an attractive guy who out earns them and is traditional. Both sexes compromise on looks. Women do end up getting casual sex with attractive men and…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 10:55 PM
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She is getting the dynamic she wants just not with her ideal guy. Its closer to her ideal than what the guy is getting. Women get to have fun sleeping with guys who are her ideal physical type and then marry a guy who is her looksmatch who will give her the traditional dynamic she wants (earn more than her, pay for dates, wait for sex, buy her the 6 month salary diamond ring) . Most guys do not get what they want for casual or for relationships. You can say both make tradeoffs but guys are defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 07:17 PM
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If you were to poll men asking if they think its a win to pay for dates, wait for sex and marry a formerly promiscuous woman, you think most men would say yes?? The cliche ideal for a man is the "good girl who is bad just for him". Marrying a high bodycount woman is literally the polar opposite of this ideal. Damn he must be something. No. You just agreed with me in another comment that women can get hotter guys for casual than for commitment. Being the guy that has to wait and pay for dates and…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 06:36 PM
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Depends on what you mean by plenty. Men who meets womens standards for being considered attractive are a minority. Some might prefer relationships that is true but they probably wont be on the market for very long which means what remains are attractive men who want to fuck around and thr vast pool of men that women aren’t all that attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:55 PM
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Theres more women lusting after Jason than there are men lusting after Lisa. Jason stands out from the average guy more than lisa does. Just on height alone hes a top percenter but on top of that he has a rugged masculine face, green eyes, full hairline and way more muscle mass than most guys. Lisa does not stand out as much compared to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:51 PM
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Of course not, that would not be in their best interest if they are tying to sucker a guy into proposing and buying them that ring that needs to cost 6 months worth of his salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:39 PM
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Well she can serve as inspiration for other women then. She was a single mom, 10 years older and still landed someone as hot as Jason Momoa.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:33 PM
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Well tbf I dont think men want women to settle. I don't want to be the guy she marries if she was mainly hooking up with taller better looking fuckboy type guys and just sees me as the stable husband option. Id prefer to just stay single over getting in a marriage with a woman who sees me that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:30 PM
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Interesting. Do we know if it was unplanned?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:11 PM
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Yes. Since men fuck down for casual that allows women to fuck up. Men have more desire for casual sex which enhances women's already greater leverage to be picky especially on dating apps. It also just makes sense the attractiveness threshold that a guy needs to pass for a woman to desire sex early on without an emotional connection will be higher than the threshold a guy has to pass where he is waiting for sex, paying for dates and is being filtered on several other aspects of compatibility. Or…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:05 PM
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He was in Baywatch and Game of Thrones prior to them getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:57 PM
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Women say the same things whenever a guy is dating a woman they think is above him. She was a single mom, 10 years older than him, less successful career and more plain looking compared to him. If the sexes were reversed in that couple women would absolutely be roasting him just as hard if not worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:22 PM
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Margot and Megan are definitely well above average but Lisa Bonet does seem kinda plain especially when compared to Jason Momoa. Theres way more Lisas than there are Jasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 04:58 PM
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Compared to Jason, yeah shes punching up big time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 04:57 PM
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lol its like youve stolen their playbook and published it for all to see
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:38 PM
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Thats not entirely true. Buss still says that women prioritize different traits for short term vs long-term and that physical appearance is more important for short term while men have lower standards. Even destiny often says "women can fuck way higher than they can date" both of which seems to align with what red pillers talk about. The only thing Buss has switched his mind on is that he now supports "mate switching" hypothesis rather than thinking women will simultaneously try to get resources…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:23 PM
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Womens strategy on reddit seems to be responding with some variation of "yeah, so what?" or "obviously we go for the hot guy for casual sex you would too if you had our options"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:19 PM
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If he gets exclusivity from a woman with a low body count yes that is winning. If he gets exclusivity from a promiscuous woman who made him wait and pay for dates that is not winning.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:52 PM
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How do you figure this? If the girlfriend is less attracted to the bf than the f buddy (which is what you JUST said) than how is she getting what she wants in a relationship with the “lesser” guy? Shes getting what she wants in terms of treatment and the dating dynamic. Also the context of this was why its worse for men to date a promiscuous woman than for women to date a promiscuous man so the assumption is that hes a guy that was able to have lots of casual sex himself ie hes likely very attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:51 PM
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Wait whats your point then? Was your original comment agreeing with me too?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:42 PM
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If most women were to line up the men they had casual sex with next to the guy they married and then have a random sample of women rate the attractiveness of the men, in most cases her casual partners would score higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:48 AM
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In terms of physical attractiveness. The tallest, hottest, biggest dick shes ever had will usually be her casual sex partnerss. Or another way to put it is the average body count and conventional attractiveness of her casual sex partners will usually be higher than that of her husband. And lots of women had situationships where they wanted a guy who only wanted them for sex. The husband isn't necessarily her top choice, hes just what she could actually get. Thats why he's the one that has to out…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:47 AM
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We want access to good sex. A pool of average guys doesn't directly mean we all get at least average sex. We know yall dont want casual sex with average men. Your pool isn't limited to average men tho. Sure you may not get a male model but most women who want to can match with a tall physically fit guy with a 6/10 or better face and a big dick to have casual sex with. That's on men. Its not on anyone. Its just nature that men are hornier and have lower threshold for being visually turned on. Hol…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:34 AM
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Its true of enough women that red pill is correct to make men aware of these women and how to avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 03:03 AM
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Ive never actually disagreed with them on that. Women do clearly get harassed more in gaming spaces than men do. Its very obvious imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:42 AM
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Yeah women definitely get more of a pass on being neurodivergent than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:41 AM
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You cant extrapolate your experiences to the whole population. Theyve done studdies and most men AND WOMEN say they are turned off by certain sexual histories. The thresholds will vary from person to person but its clearly not true that only a minority of men care. And regarding your lived experience, did these men actually know your sexual history? If they didn't know you cant say they didn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:31 AM
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lol, where is your evidence of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:24 AM
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Convenient. Regardless, I know just from other guys that I've known and talked to that guys are able to be successful with women without having to pay for dates. Some women are genuinely egalitarian and will split the bill and some women will be down to sext and netflix and chill with guys who spent little to no money on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:18 AM
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False. This is a lie. You dont think women can be more picky on physical appearance for casual sex versus if shes looking for a husband? Some men. The only men who seem to care are in this sub. I have never seen a study showing that men dont care about a woman's sexual history at all. I'll concede that not all care to the same extent byt most do have a threshold beyond which they are turned off. Do you think most guys are fine waiting for sex and paying for dates with a girl who fucked other guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:16 AM
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and if there isn't a first date? actually Ill rephrase... Have you ever had sex with a guy before hes spent any money on you, yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:12 AM
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Aren't you arguing with me on the other thread about how some guys are casual sex material to you and some are boyfriend material? Do you make the casual sex guys pay for first dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:05 AM
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Where did I say its unacceptable. Both can do whatever they want. Guys will do a similar thing but theres two differences. 1. The average guy does not have the same level of access to casual sex as the average woman and 2. Men lower their standards for casual sex. The implications of this are that for men they usually find their girlfriend more desirable than the girls they just fucked meanwhile for women usually the fuckbuddy guy was hotter. Furthermore the girlfriend girl is getting what she w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:01 AM
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The purpose of this post isn't about should or shouldn't guys care. Its just about whether or not this dynamic happens. Since youre only pushing back on whether or not guys are wrong to care about it and not at whether it happens I'll assume you agree that the husband guy is usually not as physically attractive as the fuckbuddy guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:51 PM
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If a guy is actually attractive I think he can still be successful without paying for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:49 PM
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We're talking about compared to men she's actually fucked/dated not just encountered. And Im not saying he has to be, but Im sure most men would prefer it if they were. Obviously thats not realistic as women can fuck upwards for casual sex so most of the time the husband will be a downgrade.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:40 PM
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I mean just think about what traits they say they like in a guy/what traits they go for in a casual partner and then think about what % of men have those trait. Statistically most women will not end up married to a guy with those traits even if they were able to fuck those guys for casual. Think about what the average height, physique, face, dick size, body count is for guys and then think about how those stats compare to what women say they find attractive and what traits the guys they have cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:28 PM
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Thats correct I'm talking about 2 but I'd think it corelates to 4. Are you saying you think 4 follows a normal distribution?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 02:34 AM
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Im not talking about who is screwed or not. Im just saying I don't think womens assessment of mens attractiveness follows a normal distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:40 AM
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I agree that the traits we inherit follow a normal distribution and people can be assessed as average, below or above based on where their traits fall on that distribution. However, attractiveness is our subjective assessment of how desirable those traits are and that does not need to be normally distributed, in fact it seems quite clear that they are not based on how women rank men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:12 AM
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Womens main problem is that they aren't interested in most men, so even if they can are good enough while being outside a standard deviation they still need to compete with all the other women for that really small pool of guys they consider acceptable. Vetting won't solve that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 01:57 AM
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I think that mainly applies to men. Women dony get as much of a penalty for being above or below a standard deviantion on most traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:30 AM
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the one downside of landing a chad
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:29 AM
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Is 1 inch enough of a gap for the woman to be satisfied?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:31 PM
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Tell him if he has a problem with it you can easily replace him with someone who wont have a problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:30 PM
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That should be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:50 PM
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Incel past, being a virgin, any non politically correct opinions I might have ect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:50 PM
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That sounds like most women's standards (good face + taller than me in heels) and taller than me in heels will usually end up equating to around 6ft
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:49 PM
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Could be fun just dont lead people on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:47 PM
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I mean I'd love to be able to filter on n count and past prostitution but I feel like it could also bite me in the ass when she asks me questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:36 PM
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see my above comment
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:52 PM
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He links the study in the description of the video but the video is also worth watching because he summarizes it and shows some additional charts made from the data like how much your dating pool increases from an additional two inches of height. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kH5kitiXLGY
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:51 PM
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Definitely agree with the last part. Taller men typically have more attractive partners and a bigger dating pool to choose from. Theres a chart floating around out there that shows what % of women would date a guy at a given height and at 5'9 its like 50% and at 6'2 its close to 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 04:49 PM
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My instinct would be to agree but there is that study that found the average and median # of sexual partners isnt really all that different between tall and average height men and the study had a sample size of 60k. Perhaps things have changed since it was done in 2015 tho. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704915604563#T1
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 04:11 PM
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I don't care as long as she isn’t fat. Its not necessarily a turn off if she goes to the gym but I would assume my odds are worse if she does. I think most gym bunny type girls are aiming for tall jacked dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:41 PM
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I dont think they ever thought looks didn't matter at all but they did buy into the belief that women were less shallow about looks relative to men (something women usually told them) only to find its actually the polar opposite. And what does being tall and good looking have to do with effort. Its just getting lucky genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:24 PM
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I could believe it in the case of severe facial deformities but most women claiming to be incels have guys they could hit up tonight who would fuck them no questions asked they just dont want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:01 PM
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I don’t care really about dating because I’m on my career grind. Do you think youll regret that? Most virgin women are probably taken off the market early so what remains will be the "born again" virgin women and other high body count women who dont want to wait untik marriage. So by putting off finding a partner dont you think you're kinda fucking yourself over and falling further behind the women in your dating pool in terms of sexual and romantic experience
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:42 PM
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At 5'3 you're probably not in a position to have preferences on a womans height and yeah I agree the short women are often the most height obsessed. Also if you had a tall girlfriend youd have better odds of not having short sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:34 PM
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I think thats usually c*pe or sour grapes like "oh I never wanted him anyways he was a fuckboy" If it was mutual disinterest it wouldn't have been a situationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:31 PM
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lol basically
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:29 PM
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are you really going to tell me if a guy started going down or fingering his gf in her sleep without prior consent that he wouldn't be branded a rapist by most women??
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:29 PM
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lmao most of them are supporting her and saying its fine to have those preferences meanwhile if a guy is turned off by a womans sexual history he is crucified in the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:55 PM
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She referred to her exes as "situationships" which kind of implies she would have liked to lock them down but they didnt want to lock her down. So yes most women probably do want to lock down the hot guys they have great casual sex with but that doesn't mean they will be able to do so which is why many of them find themselves in relationships with guys who are downgrades.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:44 PM
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No but it would bother me knowing she felt it was acceptable while simultaneously probably would call me a rapist if the roles were reversed and I did the same to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:40 PM
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Lots of non promiscuous women end up falling for promiscuous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:34 PM
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Its true but men dont have the luxury of picking their exact type for casual sex so men generally fuck down. An ugly woman probably isn't going to get a male model to fuck her but she can definitely get a guy who is less ugly than her. Women fuck up, men fuck down.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:33 PM
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Surprised it took so long. I dont understand how it was ever even up for debate that creepiness is almost exclusively tied to being physically unattractive. I mean even google the term and toggle inages you wont see any conventionally attractive guys in the list. The opposite happens with the word charming where its pretty much exclusively linked to being conventionally good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 05:59 AM
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I agree, of you want a girl with low body cou t you either have to meet her when you're young or hope you're one of the guys who is desirable enough to still get early 20s women when you're 30. If not you're basically stuck with the high body count women who failed to lock down the caliber of guys she was having casual sex with at which point you're better off ust staying single.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 05:57 AM
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Most beta men are are either too moral or too conflict avoidant so they don't have it in them to do that. There's also a sunk cost aspect to it where by the time he's actually been able to have sex with her he's probably already invested too much time, energy and emotions to end it and start over with someone else. I do think guys should drag their feet and make women wait for the proposal tho. Thats probably the closest equivalent to women spreading their legs for fuckboys early on and then mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:58 AM
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They desire wealthy men in terms of "hes not as hot as my college fuckbuddy but hes a great guy to take me on expensive dates, buy a house and raise kids with" Women like Zuckerberg and Elon from that perspective but they aren't actually sexually aroused by them like they would be to the college athletes they hooked up with during their hot girl summers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:51 AM
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hmm, maybe from the trans perspective I could see it happening but it definitely won't be because of concern for cis guys
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 05:51 AM
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lets be realistic body shaming guys probably wont ever become socially unacceptable
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 05:19 AM
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the worst part is actually they probably will settle eventually so imagine being the average dude who probably gonna have to wife up one of those girls after they've been pumped and dumped by guys like the one in the video
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 05:17 AM
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we aren't looksmaxxed enough for him 😭
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 04:42 AM
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I thought you left us to avoid blackpill 😑
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 04:03 AM
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For example, my need is for a partner who is financially stable. But a checklist item would be they need to make x amount or whatever. To most women isn't "financially stable" typically defined by a minimum amount of wealth/income?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:02 PM
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Bruh I’m legit upset with my mom fr, because we didn’t need to be broke like this, but she literally chose to be💀 she told me that when she was younger, she had a rich, handsome Asian man that wanted to marry her (like he bought this giant ring for her already and everything) and she told me she rejected him to date my black, broke ass father who’s verbally abusive, emotionally unavailable, and can’t pull his own weight to save his life😵‍💫 she literally let this man drag her, me, and my siblings…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:54 PM
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Rarely to never.
/r/AllPillDebate18/06/23 10:07 PM
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The wife could be a downgrade compared to past girlfriends. Im just saying she wont be a downgrade compared to a guys past casual sex partners. Why cant the ring count? Men do it for the woman men dont like spending 10k or more on a ring like women expect so it is a benefit the wife gets. Ah yes “etc”. Men value their wives so much that you put etc. Ok. lol chill I always put ect She’s attractive enough for him to marry and utilize as a bangmaid but not attractive enough for him to show that he’…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:56 PM
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So that still doesn't refute what I said. Even if the average IQ is higher in your country theres still a spectrum/distribution its not like every Dutch person is a genius and every American is a moron. There will be smart and dumb people in both countries so yes if someone interviewed randoms on the streets they would eventually find one who bombs the geography questions even in the Netherlands. Maybe theyd have to ask more people before they got that result but theyd still be able to. You've a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:44 PM
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Compared to a hookup he is typically waiting longer for sex, paying for dates, buys her the ring, legally ties his finances with her ect. Men have lower standards for casual sex than for a long-term partner so men aren’t typically less attracted to their gf or wife compared to his casual partners. which is more of a life altering event and responsibility for the woman than the man In most cases she does that because she wants to. Shes not having kids as a favor to the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:36 AM
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You get the relationship. You get the ring. You get the children. But on the flip side, you’re mainly chosen because men see you as someone who would be a better homemaker and mother. Why would you think hes not attracted to the woman hes putting more effort into. Men fuck down for casual sex and raise their standards when they have to actually put in effort and commit. Also I can say for me I do genuinely prefer the cute look over hot and would be just as willing to have casual sex with a cute …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:12 AM
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youre 5'11?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:59 AM
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Tell it to your fellow ppd women. Theyre the ones that says blackpillers and incels are wrong about women. Also some women do end up downgrading if they aren't able to get commitment from the same kind of guy. Tall guys are a minority so only a minority of women can end up married to a tall guy. Most women can experience ahort flings with tall men tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:52 AM
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lol exactly as the blackpillers and incels say
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:41 AM
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what changed? You date a tall guy for the first time and have a "once you go tall you cant go back" experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:32 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:27 AM
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The scenario isn't just short, its short AND unattractive face.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:26 AM
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Tall and good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:24 AM
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Unless you think the dumbest people in your country still have iqs above 80 I doubt that there aren't any that will fuck up their geography as bad as an American. Are there no people in the Netherlands that flunk geography? And lets say I grant you Europeans can identify countries on a map better on average, I still dont see why that matters. Unless you're competing on a gameshow it doesn't impact your life in any meaningful way if you can identify countries on a map. You absolutely could avoid …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:20 AM
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I think size matters a lot, Id bet even the Europeans are going to have an easier time remembering the bigger countries that are close to them than they are to remember the small countries far away from them. Thats great if you can remeber them, but I'm not convinced that if someone did an experiment where they stopped random Europeans on the street and asked them to identify non-European countries that they would perform significantly better. And again I don't see why it's all that important to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:35 PM
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If we would look at a map of Asia right now, I’m pretty confident Europeans would get more countries correct than Americans. Im not sure thats the case but it would make for an interesting YouTube experiment. If you can only name your own country’s states, that’s a bit sad. Why? It seems like an arbitrary standard you are judging intelligence by. If someone isn't into traveling or cant afford to and their field of study for their profession has nothing to do with geography why does it matter if …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:56 PM
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I mean the geography thing probably is true but that doesn't mean we're dumb overall. If you live in Europe youre obviously going to know the surrounding countries better just like in America we know our states but Id bet if we approached random Europeans on the street they aren't going to be able to identify American states any better than random Americans can identify European countries. Regarding height, yeah statistically we are shorter but tbf ever country is shorter than you. That said yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:09 PM
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They dont necessarily plan it that way. For casual sex women can fuck guys that would be out of their league for commitment so lots of women do end up having to settle for guys who are physically/sexually a downgrade compared to the guys she was able to get for casual sex. An average looking woman can fuck hot guys for casual sex but those hot guys will likely mary hot women leaving the average women to have to marry an average man who probably didn't have the same access to casual sex that she …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:49 PM
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lol I figured will probably be the last time tho unless I decide to pay for reddit api access
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:49 PM
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damn source??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:48 PM
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where does it say he was reported to hr?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:12 PM
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its clearly his amazing personality
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:38 PM
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“Becky,” a derogatory term for white women, and “noodlewh*re,” a term used to demeaningly refer to Asian women not fair for them to conflate those two terms imo becky is a lot more generic and isn't inherently hateful or misogynistic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:19 PM
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looks aren't secondary
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:21 PM
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Will probably be the list time I can do it since reddit is removing free api access next month 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:37 PM
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23 yo guy with early recession vs 32 yo guy with perfect hairline, the former will get scrutinized more for dating a 22 yo than the latter even if they know his age. Your reasons are based on the uncharitable assumptions you make about mens preferences and the very charitable ones you make about womens.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:24 PM
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They aren't cold and aloof towards them men that are actually attracted to. So yeah if shes cold and aloof its probably best not to waste your time on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:22 PM
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established older guy, especially if he’s merely older and not “old” and unattractive The potential attractiveness gap is probably the real source of women being bothered by age gaps. If we cured aging such that 30+ yo men were physically indistinguishable from a 22 year old guy yall wouldn't care as much about age gaps. Like I said, there are reasons why men’s “preferences” get scrutinized. The reasons being that women create the most charitable interpretations of womens preferences and the lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:04 PM
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Depends on the flavors
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:37 PM
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Paternity testing should be mandatory for child support
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:09 PM
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what country is she from?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:05 PM
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lmao that is priceless
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:01 PM
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That 25 age is thrown around a lot but how meaningfully different is the development between 22 and 25 is it like going from 50% development to 100% or from 97% to 100% if a guy is 30+ and specifically pursuing women 18-22 he’s not someone you wanna date What about a woman who is 22 wanting to date a guy who is 30 because hes more established and secure? or any of the other myriad of preferences women hold men to? Do you say shes not someone you wanna date? No of course no yall never do. Like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:00 PM
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but look how much cuter the one on the right is 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:51 PM
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How old does the woman need to be before shes not basically a teen?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:43 PM
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sure but are men born to single moms more likely to be autistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:21 PM
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They probably aren't attracted to them but just settled. Or if they actually are cucks he lets her fuck the more masculine giys on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:16 PM
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I think it depends more on his genes. If she got knocked up by a chad and he inherits his fathers chad genes then he probably wont struggle with women even if he was raised by a single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:10 PM
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Lets say 32 wants a 22 year old, is your answer the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:05 PM
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30% is still quite high and even of the remaining men who do get married I doubt there is sufficient desire to keep the marriage satisfying long-term
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:04 PM
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shes the same girl that doxxed westelm caleb so its not surprising
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:48 PM
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Unironically true. I definitely became more red/blackpilled from listening to the ppd women than to the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:44 PM
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oof, you should have stayed in her country
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:24 PM
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Thats why my viewpoint is the most based. I think we need to go either the genetically engineered designer baby route or make medical advancements such that cosmetic surgery becomes better and more affordable. That is the only option that has a chance of evening the sexual playing field. Anything else is cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:16 PM
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does she also have a white guy fetish ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:05 PM
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Because he's not in his 80s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:04 PM
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I'd be more happy if they just aknowleged they have it way easier than men and that the standards they judge men on for looks are way harsher than the ones they get judged on. They dont deserve body positivity movements or sympathy for their insecurities. They already have such a low bar to pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:03 PM
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way better than Lillths reminders
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:53 AM
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thats unironically pretty close to what women already say ie "if hes not x height with x size dick and x bank account then hes not a real man"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:50 AM
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not really
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:42 AM
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not even a switch?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:08 AM
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Women can easily lie about or hide their past and theres enough simps that will marry them regardless. Its not even comparable, a short guy has it way worse than a high bodycount woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 11:56 PM
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as a top or bottom?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 11:53 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 11:42 PM
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I wish 😞 I'm just curious how many women consider it a deal breaker cause I remember reading a stat that like 50% of women do and I find it funny that many of them probably take issue with women being judged on their sexual pasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 11:27 PM
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You posted on the raccoons thread 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 11:21 PM
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If it wasn't for him wanting you to dominate him would you have been more ok with his past?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 11:12 PM
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100%, definitely a lot of potential
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 10:54 PM
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Thats why I have no sympathy for women regarding dating. They basically cant lose no matter what they do. They're playing on tutorial mode with cheats enabled. All the flaws that tank a mans desirability either don't affect them at all or does so to a significantly lesser degree. Then on top of all that they have the audacity to think standards for women are less realistic/ harder to meet. Men are judged more harshly than women on basically every single physical or personality trait. The only po…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 10:51 PM
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lol you seem well read on the subject
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:03 PM
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I meant is that what PSL means in this context?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:28 PM
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based, sub 6ft women shouldn't pass on their short genes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:01 PM
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pot smoking loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:01 PM
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Thats still a minority but more than I thought. I wonder how many men donate to sperm banks. Would be interesting to know the ratio of women using sperm banks to men donating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:00 PM
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https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:720/format:webp/1*s8j1k7YlKN8Bqbw5oTQdPw.png
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:58 PM
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What % of women even use sperm donors?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:41 PM
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Seems a lot of the pair bonding is culturally enforced and very recent. Historically we have far more female ancestors than male ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:32 PM
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I think you just notice it more because its more annoying when an ugly guy does it than when an attractive guy does
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:27 PM
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I didn't anticipate that possibility
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:16 PM
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Exactly they might disagree on style, hair/grooming but they mostly agree on the fundamentals ie tall, broad shoulders, above average facial harmony/symetry, full head of hair deep voice, big dick
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:48 PM
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IIRC in bonobos the bottom 40% of males do not reproduce and the most attractive male bonobo fathered most of the offspring in the group the researchers were looking at. Bonobos are probably the closest comparison to us that illustrates a total female choice scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:39 PM
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If a short guy is an asshole its cause he has a complex and they'll use that one experience to justify writing off short guys going forward but if a tall guy is an asshole hes just an asshole and they wont swear off tall guys based on that one experience
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:13 PM
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A woman could make you wait despite having a high body count and conversely a woman could fuck you on the first date despite having average to low body count. The worst case scenario is the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:54 PM
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lol true
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:51 PM
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I kind of agree in the sense that if flake rate is defined as women flaking after you've already exhanged numbers and set up a time and date then 80% does sound high I think most guys who struggle are failing before it even gets to that stage
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:44 PM
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