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| -1 | Male Privilege.About 70m people were killed on WWII. Around 25m were military deaths, and the rest were civilians. I can't find a breakdown of deaths by sex. When most killed were civilians, how can you be sure that most casualties were male? | /r/MensRights | 08/02/12 05:46 PM |
| -8 | Male Privilege.I made no comment about relative deaths by gender. I was talking about the fact that wars result in suffering for all people regardless of gender. What was the relative number of male vs. female civilian deaths at Leningrad, Tokyo, Dresden, Hiroshima or any of the other cities that were utterly destroyed in WWII? I, for one, don't care. Millions of people were killed, injured or otherwise traumatized. The victims' genders don't matter to me. Seriously, why are MRAs complaining about men having t… | /r/MensRights | 08/02/12 06:21 AM |
| -19 | Male Privilege.Voting to go to war? Another male privilege during WWII. There was only one vote against going to war with Japan, and it came from the first woman elected to Congress, Jeanette Rankin. Still the only female elected to Congress from Montana, and the only person to vote against both WWI and WWII. Regardless, the commentary provided with the photo does not reflect reality. During WWII, old men sent young men to war and instructed them to kill en masse supposedly protected civilians of all sexes. Th… | /r/MensRights | 08/02/12 04:31 AM |
| -7 | Bitch. (x-post from r/Funny)Why do you guys keep conforming to everyone's prejudices about you? You don't have to discredit yourselves so frequently by upvoting this kind of crap. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 04:54 AM |
| 2 | Guy beats up accused rapist of his friend, has no proof but still receives praise.The fact that you're a Marine solves the biggest problem for me. I've always been worried that if I carried a gun and did need to use it, my lack of intensive training might cause me to improperly handle the gun and expose me to greater risk. Maybe someone could snatch the gun from me or I could just miss for example. It doesn't solve another big problem for me though. Even with advanced training, one could shoot the wrong person or be mistaken for a second shooter in a chaotic situation. I reme… | /r/MensRights | 11/01/12 08:35 AM |
| 1 | Guy beats up accused rapist of his friend, has no proof but still receives praise.Out of pure curiosity: Why do you bring your gun mostly everywhere? Have you been assaulted or have reason to fear being assaulted? Are you ever concerned that faced with a dangerous situation in which you might have to use your gun, you might shoot the wrong person or have some other tragedy occur by accident? I don't mean to criticize, I've just always wondered if gun owners consider the potential problems that have always prevented me from buying one. | /r/MensRights | 11/01/12 06:01 AM |
| 0 | Hotel to keep illegal women-only floorHow do you feel about the fact that Augusta National Golf Club, one of the best courses in the world, has male only membership? | /r/MensRights | 27/12/11 10:13 PM |
| 0 | Michigan bill criminalizes men for getting a divorce from or breaking up with a pregnant woman.The problem is that it's so subjective and just creates more he said/she said cases that are impossible to prove. People prove things like domestic abuse, sexual assault, coercive employment practices (like threatening to fire someone if they don't do x), illegal revocation of legal contracts, etc. all the time. Those are the types of things covered by the various bills. What's wrong with a law saying "it is a crime to beat or threaten to beat someone until she agrees to get an abortion"? If the… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/11 02:17 PM |
| -4 | Michigan bill criminalizes men for getting a divorce from or breaking up with a pregnant woman.I've just read all of those bills and they are similar only in that they criminalize coercing abortion and provide regulations for informing women of state law on coerced abortion before the abortion may be preformed. The definition of coercion is in no way similar to the language used in the 2006 bill and all the 2011 bills define coercion far more narrowly. The title of this post is in every way inaccurate, and the effect of this misinformation campaign is clearly demonstrated by the unquestio… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/11 01:39 PM |
| 1 | Michigan bill criminalizes men for getting a divorce from or breaking up with a pregnant woman.It's not a law and no one has tried to make it one in over 5 years. See my other comment in this thread. | /r/MensRights | 17/12/11 01:26 PM |
| 47 | Michigan bill criminalizes men for getting a divorce from or breaking up with a pregnant woman.This bill was from 2006 and died in a Michigan Senate Committee 5 years ago The language reported in this story regarded a 2006 bill that's had no actions since 8/9/2006. HB 5882 of 2006 Two similar bills have recently been introduced to criminalize coercive abortion, but they lack any mention of divorce, cohabitation, or financial support in their discussion of coercive actions. They deal with clearly abusive practices like threats of violence. HB 5181 of 2011 HB 5182 of 2011 This is why you sh… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/11 11:34 AM |
| 4 | feminazi attacks Reddit: "Reddit contain so much anti-feminist sentiment that they even have active communities such as r/mensrights." An attempt to smear and censor us, and to force admins to shutdown this subreddit???When I urged her to work she said if I didn't like it she would take our kid and I could leave. Why do you stay with someone who apparently doesn't want anything but your money? Does she love you if she's so willing to show you the door? The family courts might more frequently rule in favor of mothers when it comes to parental rights and financial arrangements, but would you really be financially worse off if you did leave your wife considering you already support her and your kid? Do you think … | /r/MensRights | 14/12/11 01:56 AM |
| 30 | Anti-prostitution feminists want to take away a woman's right to sell her body for sex, demonises menFeminists are not the reason for slut shaming. Many feminists actively protest slut shaming. Feminism is a broad term describing people with many different (often opposite) opinions. Slut shaming can not be attributed to a non-monolithic group of people who identify their diverse philosophies under the umbrella of feminism. Many anti-feminists and feminists are slut shamers. Many are not. Statements like: sluts are to women what scabs are to unions. are poorly considered because they inaccuratel… | /r/MensRights | 12/12/11 11:57 AM |
| 10 | Can you tell the difference between a Men’s Magazine and a rapist?The people of SRS, ladies or otherwise, seem to have often have great points about the ignorance and hatred that are so often boldly demonstrated by Reddit comments. I thought they misunderstood what I was saying, so I replied in their thread about my comment. Happily, my response has been upvoted and it seems clarification was all that was needed. I'm not sure what They are a brigade of beautiful women who target handsome specimens for their breeding programs! is supposed to imply. They seem ok… | /r/MensRights | 11/12/11 01:38 AM |
| 2 | Can you tell the difference between a Men’s Magazine and a rapist?If you heard "I believe in discipline in the home" you might agree, even if you found out later that an abusive parent said it. The statement itself is not an endorsement of abuse. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/11 10:08 PM |
| 2 | Can you tell the difference between a Men’s Magazine and a rapist?You are close-minded and I'd wager not a scientist. I'm not scientist either, but at least i know that my preconceived notions of the world do not disprove scientific surveys. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/11 07:49 AM |
| 5 | Can you tell the difference between a Men’s Magazine and a rapist?As your citation states: Total combined anthropogenic greenhouse gases comprise (12,217 / 370,484) or 3.298% of all greenhouse gas concentrations, (ignoring water vapor). Perhaps important. Not a climatologist, but as my about link stated: Farnsworth and Lichter, 2011 In an October 2011 paper published in the International Journal of Public Opinion Research, researchers from George Mason University analyzed the results of a survey of 489 scientists working in academia, government, and industry. … | /r/MensRights | 10/12/11 07:04 AM |
| 8 | Can you tell the difference between a Men’s Magazine and a rapist?Did they forget to send you the survey or something? Or are you just unaware of the overwhelming scientific consensus on human influenced climate change? Regardless, my point was that prejudgement of scientific articles because of the philosophies of their authors is wrong. Actual scientific studies should be examined for their own merit. No particular opinion of a scientist can automatically disqualify his or her work. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/11 06:42 AM |
| 2 | Can you tell the difference between a Men’s Magazine and a rapist?I've actually been impressed that my assertions have been up voted in this thread. I tried to clearly state my disapproval with this one article, but also reject ignorant attitudes toward feminists and women generally. Pleasantly surprised that I've gotten some approval from r/MensRights. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/11 05:39 AM |
| 3 | Can you tell the difference between a Men’s Magazine and a rapist?My comment only addressed Ma99ie's dismissal of psychology, which you don't even support. He was fundamentally incorrect in his assessment of the value of a science. I sought to counter his ignorant statement by accurately describing psychology. Why are you calling me asinine? | /r/MensRights | 10/12/11 05:36 AM |
| 8 | Can you tell the difference between a Men’s Magazine and a rapist?psychology [sahy-kol-uh-jee] Noun 1: The science of the mind or of mental states and processes Psychology is to mental health as biology is to health, regardless of your personal biases. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/11 01:45 AM |
| 7 | Can you tell the difference between a Men’s Magazine and a rapist?THe article you cite draws a similar analogy to my statement about climate change: "Would a global warming journal be taken seriously if it claimed "debunking the hoax" as one of its goals?" Clear and purposeful intent may demonstrate bias, but simple ideological beliefs do not, feminist or otherwise. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/11 01:36 AM |
| -4 | Can you tell the difference between a Men’s Magazine and a rapist?Here we have rapists talking about some subject other than the fact that they think rape is okay. Many of the quotes cited in the article have no bearing on actual attitudes toward rape. For society, the important factor is that people find rape disagreeable. My point was that particular statements from rapists do not necessarily support acceptance of rape. Particular quotes from men's magazines similarly are not demonstrable support of dangerous attitudes. Many of the quotes cited in the Jezebe… | /r/MensRights | 10/12/11 01:25 AM |
| 18 | Can you tell the difference between a Men’s Magazine and a rapist?This would be like saying "Climate change scientists are all liberals and therefore their studies are false." Studies should be considered independently of your preconceptions of the scientists. They should be addressed by the merit of their findings, regardless of who found them. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/11 12:21 AM |
| 16 | Can you tell the difference between a Men’s Magazine and a rapist?Because feminists can't be scientists? Science should be judged by the merit of its findings, not the supposed beliefs of its practitioners. Perhaps this study is flawed, but that does not have any impact on any other study, whether preformed by feminists or not. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/11 12:17 AM |
| 3 | Can you tell the difference between a Men’s Magazine and a rapist?In any case, it might be best to wait for the actual journal article to come out before declaring the study flawed. Absolutely. I tried to make this point in my first comment, but gave up as it seemed the study's authors indeed are attempting some form of social activism. This conclusion was because of quotes like "Rapists try to justify their actions, suggesting that women lead men on, or want sex even when they say no, and there is clearly something wrong when people feel the sort of language … | /r/MensRights | 10/12/11 12:10 AM |
| 1 | Can you tell the difference between a Men’s Magazine and a rapist?I remember looking through women's magazines like "Cosmo" and being stunned because the sexual advise offered was to me repulsive. I imagine you've seen the "25 Ways to Pleasure Your Man" or whatever articles. These are not definitive studies of men's sexual interests just like mens' magazines do not report absolute truths of female sexual desire. I defend both, however, because they are in my view harmless. The quotes in the Jezebel article could be agreeable to someone with sound understanding… | /r/MensRights | 10/12/11 12:00 AM |
| 12 | Can you tell the difference between a Men’s Magazine and a rapist?See Patai, Hoff Sommers and Straus on feminist academic fraud, its widespread. With cursory examination of these thinkers' Wikipedia pages, I found no evidence that Patai and Hoff Sommers claim widespread fraud in feminist research. I couldn't tell from Google which person named Strauss you refer to. Do you mind providing links? Patai and Sommers seem to be influential and well versed thinkers. I doubt they broadly dismiss the findings of any field. Even if they hypothetically wrote "80% of femi… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/11 11:51 PM |
| 13 | Can you tell the difference between a Men’s Magazine and a rapist?Just because a study is preformed by feminists doesn't make it invalid. I believe this study is flawed, but MRAs would be wise to remember that one study does not necessarily have any influence on any others. Some quotes reprinted in Jezebel seem intentionally excerpted to mislead. For example: "You do not want to be caught red handed . . . Go ahead and smash her on a park bench. That used to be my trick." I have no idea what this was meant to convey in context. Maybe it means "physically harm s… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/11 11:13 PM |
| 9 | Can you tell the difference between a Men’s Magazine and a rapist?Jezebel's complaints are faulty, and although the study seems biased, we cannot assume that Jezebel accurately reported its findings and intentions. Jezebel's story is flawed because it neglects that rapists can have some legitimate views. Jerry Sandusky may be a child rapist, but I'd imagine that most would agree with his views on college football defenses. Rapist may have some views on women that are widely agreeable, but that does not mean that most people find rape agreeable. I am a feminist… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/11 10:27 PM |
| 0 | India's Supreme Court: Only a man can be punished for adultery. The wife cannot be punished, even as an abettor.Except that is not the reality... Women are capable of choosing lovers so the fact that the law does not punish female cheaters gives them an advantage. Dude. Acid attacks. Bride Burning. Dowry Death. Look at the pictures in this link if you haven't seen them. A frequently cited motive for acid throwing is rejection of a lover. Women are not permitted to choose their own relationships when the consequence can be unbelievable mutilation or rape (which maybe is followed by an honor killing). Punis… | /r/MensRights | 06/12/11 04:05 PM |
| 1 | India's Supreme Court: Only a man can be punished for adultery. The wife cannot be punished, even as an abettor.His posts in r/mensrights are consistently up voted. Seems plenty of other people take him seriously. Someone's gotta call out the jackasses on here. I do it when I can, and am almost always down voted for it. Oh well. I believe that any movement that in name represents me, like MensRights, has to deal with my opinions. | /r/MensRights | 06/12/11 03:06 PM |
| 1 | India's Supreme Court: Only a man can be punished for adultery. The wife cannot be punished, even as an abettor.Guess so. If it's indeed sarcastic, then Ma99ie should lay it on thicker next time. The comment isn't too far off from plenty of the other comments in /r/mensrights that are indeed serious. It would be some serious meta-trolling to make a post that not only gets up voted by MRAs but also get criticized by more moderate MensRights readers like me. | /r/MensRights | 06/12/11 11:39 AM |
| 1 | India's Supreme Court: Only a man can be punished for adultery. The wife cannot be punished, even as an abettor.How can a man cheat on a legal non-entity... I think you have this backwards. According to an Indian divorce law website, adultery laws apply to all men who sleep with married women, not men who cheat on their wives. The applicable statutes read: Section-497- Adultery “Whoever has sexual intercourse with a person who is and whom he knows or has reason to believe to be the wife of another man, without the consent or connivance of that man, such sexual intercourse not amounting to the offence of r… | /r/MensRights | 06/12/11 10:06 AM |
| 1 | India's Supreme Court: Only a man can be punished for adultery. The wife cannot be punished, even as an abettor.I think it's time to start picking up arms and get ready for a revolution. Wait, so you're suggesting that men collect all the world's weapons and use them to assert physical superiority over women? Please expound on why this is a good path to go down, how it differs from the period from the dawn of civilization to ~50-100 years ago (in the West anyway), and how it differs from today's policies of fanatical groups like the Saudi government and the Taliban. | /r/MensRights | 05/12/11 09:54 PM |
| 2 | India's Supreme Court: Only a man can be punished for adultery. The wife cannot be punished, even as an abettor.The wife is considered "property" under the English common law tradition of coverture. The wife isn't exactly property in such marriages. Instead, the married couple is considered one legal entity with all legal rights/responsibilities assumed by the man. William Blackstone described it this way: By marriage, the husband and wife are one person in law: that is, the very being or legal existence of the woman is suspended during the marriage, or at least incorporated and consolidated into that of … | /r/MensRights | 05/12/11 09:46 PM |
| 1 | feminist group FEMEN's topless protests to go global. “We understood that classic feminism no longer works”Um, duh. It also would've been downvoted into oblivion on /r/gaming or /r/writing or /r/basketweaving. It's not a relevant topic. That's the point. If many in r/MensRights weren't so preoccupied with vilifying women, this wouldn't have come up, and I wouldn't have spent so much effort arguing against their discriminatory views. And yes, associating yourself with feminism at all is a pretty good way to get yourself ignored by large parts of modern society even if you do have a legitimate point ab… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/11 08:59 AM |
| 1 | feminist group FEMEN's topless protests to go global. “We understood that classic feminism no longer works”You're part of the movement if you want to be. That's the point. I find the current movement that claims to represent me to be preoccupied with vilifying women. I don't want to be a part of that movement, so I'm doing what little I can to influence it. And I have tried to be respectable, trying to attack arguments not individual posters. If you don't approve, you know where the downvote button is, and I'm clearly willing to defend my views. If you go against the norm, you have to be damn polite … | /r/MensRights | 30/11/11 08:13 AM |
| 1 | feminist group FEMEN's topless protests to go global. “We understood that classic feminism no longer works”I'm sorry if I came off as holier-than-thou, it was not my intent. When I post here, it isn't to troll or insult. Instead, as a man I hope to participate in shaping the movement that nominally represents me. I don't want to be an outsider looking in. I want this subreddit to be a more welcoming place for men like me. Criticizing the r/MensRights hive mind thus seemed reasonable to me. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/11 07:44 AM |
| 0 | feminist group FEMEN's topless protests to go global. “We understood that classic feminism no longer works”I did not say you need to agree with their argument. I didn't even question your right to hold unpopular/radical beliefs, as your sarcastic apology seems to imply. I did say that there are very good reasons to agree with their argument (or at least the Burlusconi part of it), that their mode of protest is demonstrably effective, and that dismissive/insulting attitudes like you exhibited above are ultimately harmful to broad acknowledgement of MRA complaints. Addressing the actual statements and … | /r/MensRights | 29/11/11 11:13 PM |
| -1 | feminist group FEMEN's topless protests to go global. “We understood that classic feminism no longer works”Except, it wasn't topless girls that made me aware. It was you, posting on Reddit about it, because topless girls is such a shameless attention grab, and their association with a movement that's now so thoroughly dominated by petty, selfish, short-sighted bullies made me ignore them by default. What do you think the MRA reaction would have been if someone just posted an argument about a purely feminist issue (sexual exploitation of girls). I imagine such a post would be ignored on r/MensRights. … | /r/MensRights | 29/11/11 10:29 PM |
| -1 | feminist group FEMEN's topless protests to go global. “We understood that classic feminism no longer works”This entire subreddit is proof that a subset of men won't take feminists seriously no matter what. Their nudity is the only reason that people like you would even know they exist. You're ignoring their message and just see OMGTiTS in their demonstration, but others are capable of grasping Femen's point. Here's a helpful hint: you have to read what's painted on their tits. Think of their breasts like a fleshy billboard. To be successful, you want your billboard where everyone's gonna see it. But … | /r/MensRights | 29/11/11 09:35 PM |
| 3 | feminist group FEMEN's topless protests to go global. “We understood that classic feminism no longer works”You do realize that Burlusconi is explicitly accused of funding an funding a sex ring that imported underaged foreign-born "show-girls" to pleasure Burlusconi and his octogenarian friends at their "bunga-bunga" parties, don't you? From the Telegraph, March 5, 2011: It was Mr Fede who "discovered" Karima El Mahroug, the Moroccan-born erotic dancer who prosecutors claim was working as a prostitute at the age of 17 and had sex with the prime minister. Paying for sexual relations with a prostitute w… | /r/MensRights | 29/11/11 09:16 PM |
| 1 | feminist group FEMEN's topless protests to go global. “We understood that classic feminism no longer works”But I have to ask: What abuses of women's rights are they even TALKING about?! At what location are European women being herded up or killed? Or Oppressed? Or even moderately fucking inconvenienced? There's a documentary called Very Young Girls that exposes the sexual exploitation of girls that is so common even in a rich society like the US, with laws intended to ban sexually abusive practices. I strongly suggest you watch it, and then get back to me on which rights feminists still fight for. T… | /r/MensRights | 29/11/11 07:12 PM |
| 0 | feminist group FEMEN's topless protests to go global. “We understood that classic feminism no longer works”You seem to entirely miss the point of these protests. That there is no reference to sexual slavery in the article is likely one of the things these women are protesting. Sexual slavery among Eastern European prostitutes is firmly established and widely recognized. The protesters' problem is not as you so glibly enunciate: anger about a powerful man coming to the ukraine and succeeding in having sex. It instead has to do with the ability of Western men to literally purchase mostly women and girl… | /r/MensRights | 29/11/11 05:53 PM |
| -6 | BBC uses the the term RAPE in relation to men without putting it into quotation marks.You have to realize that MRAs are not saying "we don't give a fuck about women, men are the real victims!" You have to understand that this is exactly how MRAs sound at every turn. Your subreddit is overflowing with unsubstantiated accusations of false reporting of rape of women. And then you all cheer when you hear a report that maybe a woman raped a man somewhere! | /r/MensRights | 28/11/11 05:40 PM |
| 39 | BBC uses the the term RAPE in relation to men without putting it into quotation marks.News reports of this particular situation are very broad based on a few seconds of googling. But the stories are uniform in their disregard of the other side of what is obviously a very complicated dispute. Your reference to Joe Pressil reinforces my point, because it involves another dubious claim from someone with an obvious interest to obscure the facts. A man who is charged with beating the mother of his kids on said kids' birthday alleges that the mother somehow managed to get pregnant in t… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/11 11:10 AM |
| -12 | BBC uses the the term RAPE in relation to men without putting it into quotation marks.Do you MRA's really believe that some saucy ladies injected the dude from the article with a substance that made him wild with sexual desire? Really? No, I mean it, you really are open to believing that ludicrous story. Told by a person in a third world nation without a competent justice system. In a part of the world where violence against women is routine, and rape is a weapon of war. You believe that women are sexually victimizing men. Men who are physically stronger and institutionally prote… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/11 10:27 AM |
| 32 | BBC uses the the term RAPE in relation to men without putting it into quotation marks.Didn't realize that irresponsible unprotected sex somehow is equivalent to rape. Maybe you do things differently, but if I chose to not use a condom and got someone pregnant, I'd consider it my own damn fault. | /r/MensRights | 28/11/11 10:16 AM |
| 23 | Did I overreact?Considering that you botched your fake iPhone conversation, no you didn't overreact. Next time, make sure that the messages you send are in the green boxes, and use the correct font. | /r/MensRights | 01/11/11 10:06 PM |
| -1 | Unwanted men, we need you to curb the welfare AmazonsDo you really believe that is a significant part of the problem here? Wake up. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/11 03:56 PM |
| -2 | Unwanted men, we need you to curb the welfare AmazonsYes, abortions for all who you deem too irresponsible to parent. The decision to use protect is made by both parties who enter in to a sexual relationship. But in the cases discussed in the article, the responsibility to raise the child is entirely on the back of the mother, and somehow men are the victims? Absent fathers all too regularly shirk their responsibilities to their children, and you assign them no blame for the poor results of their actions. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/11 03:56 PM |
| -6 | Unwanted men, we need you to curb the welfare AmazonsAre these women somehow reproducing in a fucking vacuum? Are they spontaneously multiplying themselves? No. Their children have fathers. Fathers who choose not to be in their children's lives. Believe it or not, it's rather difficult to raise a child on a single income and with no support from a partner when it comes to spending time with the child. How do you work when you've got a couple kids, the dad bolted shortly after knocking you up, and you can't afford daycare? And jackasses like omegaf… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/11 02:48 PM |
| 2 | I reversed the gender on this banner at my university... it didn't stay that way for long.Well, if you choose to represent yourselves that way. I mainly meant MRAs, whatever that means. You gotta recognize that the Men's Rights movement is savaged every time it is publicized. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 07:04 AM |
| 2 | I reversed the gender on this banner at my university... it didn't stay that way for long.Well, if you choose to represent yourselves that way. I mainly meant MRAs, whatever that means. You gotta recognize that the Men's Rights movement is savaged every time it is publicized. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 07:02 AM |
| 31 | I reversed the gender on this banner at my university... it didn't stay that way for long.If the media ran a story about this, it would be solely for the purpose of mocking you guys. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/11 08:36 PM |
| 2 | Young men will never grow up, why should they?It was a joke, referencing his easily misread URL. Sort of like "pensitoreview.com" which many people read as "Penis to Review". I'm surprised I had to explain that. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/11 08:15 PM |
| -1 | Young men will never grow up, why should they?I'm not clicking on a link to David Roth's Cum blog. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/11 02:37 PM |
| 3 | Lawyers for Dominique Strauss-Kahn have proof the IMF chief was at a restaurant having lunch with his daughter at the time he was alleged to be sexually assaulting a hotel maid: ReutersMaybe saying innocent or guilty was the wrong phrase. What I mean is that the public should reserve judgement and reject alleged proof of innocence like this alibi until we see all the evidence. Also, I do believe that presumption of innocence is different from proof of innocence. Currently, Dominique Strauss-Kahn is only presumed innocent. His lawyers claiming he was somewhere else at the time of the crime is not proof yet. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/11 10:30 PM |
| 6 | Lawyers for Dominique Strauss-Kahn have proof the IMF chief was at a restaurant having lunch with his daughter at the time he was alleged to be sexually assaulting a hotel maid: ReutersThey claim to have proof. That does not mean that there is actually proof. Let's wait until the facts are known to declare this guy innocent or guilty. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/11 06:48 PM |
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