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Barney21/r/seduction27/11/10 05:37 PM
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Train stations, bus stops and the Fussgängerzone are good places. Ask for directions, or information on local sights, shopping bars etc. German cities tend to be designed to get people to linger, so there are lots of places for this.
/r/seduction22/02/13 03:46 PM
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As an American living in Germany I can tell you that you can talk to just about any woman in Germany just based on your American accent. It won't get you in her pants but it will buy you three minutes of time to chat her up. Also a lot of girls just like the opportunity to practice English and will happily talk to you as long as you want, or longer. You can hit on them or just leverage their friendship to meet other girls. Hang around the bars near the universities, especially late night/early m…
/r/seduction22/02/13 11:22 AM
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Lunch sounds pretty boring to me. Think of an activity some would want to do with or without you.
/r/seduction26/04/12 05:17 PM
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A few weeks ago I was in a bar at about 4:30 AM and I chatted up this couple in a bar. She was about 20 and he was about 30-35. She was an intern at his company. She very cute and wasn't having much fun. She told me all people in the office saw in her was her hair. I fiddled with it and said I didn't see any problem, her hair looked pretty good to me. She said she meant they thought she was a dumb blonde even though she studied math. I asked her what 15x25 was, and after some thought she came up…
/r/seduction26/04/12 02:47 PM
1

Give him instructions on physical escalation. When you meet, tap your cheek and say "Gimme a kiss". Sit beside him and put his hand on your knee. Have him show you his biceps and squeeze it. Play patticakes. Get him to carry you piggyback. Start play fights with him and tickle him until he tickles you back. Keep it fun and silly.
/r/seduction09/04/12 10:18 AM
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Don't overanalyze. Just assume it means yes and carry on. The worst thing that can happen is that she says no later.
/r/seduction05/04/12 11:42 PM
1

I ask her if she is subtly trying to get rid of me. Wouldn't go there. Assume she isn't.
/r/seduction29/03/12 09:02 PM
2

Oh well online isn't that great a venue anyway
/r/seduction24/02/12 01:18 AM
1

think I gotta get to know you a little better before I can tell you Pretty good up to here. It's better to show than to tell. Challenge her. Get her to to tell you the most exciting thing about her.
/r/seduction24/02/12 12:44 AM
2

you can have her help, chance for kino while cooking, etc. Also gives her the opportunity to prove she is worthy of your attention for reasons other than sex, which in turn is an excuse to have for having sex.
/r/seduction23/02/12 11:52 PM
2

Sounds like she was doing most of the work!
/r/seduction20/02/12 04:49 PM
2

walk away This rarely works.
/r/seduction18/02/12 12:52 PM
2

Something like that, yeah. It's usually good to have some kind of joke to go along with it. It doesn't have to be very funny, just something silly to relieve tension. Or just "Mmm, smells nice". She wants to hear that, trust me. She might not want to hear it in front of other people though. Also little neg isn't bad when you're coming on like this. Mystery calls it "calibration". For example, a great way to touch a girl is to say "You're terrible" while giving her a little hug but no eye contact…
/r/seduction02/02/12 08:35 AM
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Just be totally relaxed about it.
/r/seduction01/02/12 07:40 PM
1

It has some validity. Self hypnosis to get yourself out of bad habits, improve self confidence, cure insomnia etc can help.
/r/seduction20/01/12 09:07 AM
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but the fact that becoming the center of attention and getting everyone to like you isn't something that just comes along easily! This is something you should stop telling yourself. anyway, there are plenty of self help and self hypnosis resources on line that can get you out of this trap.
/r/seduction19/01/12 12:43 PM
1

Are you the kind of guy that would rather wander around lost or use navigation software than ask for directions? Maybe you should change that habit. Do you talk to the girls in the checkout line at the supermarket? Try starting there. Find a line and use it over and over.
/r/seduction19/01/12 11:50 AM
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The immature stuff works best. Why pretend to be a grown up? A man once said to me "You know, I was 50 years old before I realized there were no grown-ups." Don't let that happen to you.
/r/seduction19/01/12 11:33 AM
1

If she's looking for a guy, and you insist on being "nice", you're really being an asshole.
/r/seduction19/01/12 11:30 AM
1

Try losing. Seriously. Set yourself the goal of getting blown off. The next step is setting the goal of not getting blown off for 30 seconds. Work your way up from there.
/r/seduction19/01/12 11:29 AM
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He tells me that I'm gorgeous. "Thank you," I say. I get it about 80 times a night, but I'm pretty sure anyone who is height-weight proportionate and has makeup troweled on looks gorgeous in the dim lighting of the club. Negging is not doing this. That's the point.
/r/seduction15/12/11 06:34 PM
2

Start with an obvious lie to tease her. If she really wants to hear, she'll ask again. If not, just have a little fun. Talk about the stuff you like the most.
/r/seduction09/11/11 06:09 PM
1

Why did you say Facebook was better if you don't have a reason to say so? Just don't say this in the future and you're good.
/r/seduction04/11/11 04:10 PM
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I had this. I thought about it a lot while in public but not trying to get to know anyone. Playing eye contact games helps. Make the other person look away first, fight the urge to flinch when someone looks back. Don't worry about being "creepy". Also watch how people touch their face and hair, it is a sign of interest or nervousness. Ask directions instead of time. Start at information counters (they're aid!) if random strangers are too hard. Approach people you view as low status /unattractive…
/r/seduction03/11/11 09:49 AM
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Read her palm. Palm reading is easy and fun, and it a great opportunity to hold hands and otherwise escalate physically. Also she's probably not so much fishing for compliments as just wanting to talk about herself so make sure you throw in a lot of cold reading mumbo jumbo.
/r/seduction14/10/11 07:04 PM
1

Not really seduction related
/r/seduction14/10/11 06:50 PM
1

Be entertaining, make her laugh. Challenge her, make her prove herself, don't compliment her or get mushy about your "feelings". Nobody cares, sorry. Show her your world without hesitation. Touch her hands and neck and face. Laugh it off if she shows any doubt. If she doesn't say no, assume she's saying yes.
/r/seduction10/10/11 11:08 PM
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Go shopping with her and get her to help you buy some jeans.
/r/seduction10/10/11 10:16 PM
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Touch her when she says that. Do something "funny" like grabbing her triceps and stroking her shoulder 3-4 times and say "Aww that's so sad!" Ham it up. Then calibrate by laughing and giving her a (very gentle) shove and immediately change the subject. Why in the world did you mention her BF in the first place?
/r/seduction10/10/11 04:58 PM
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I said "What again? Also just ignore the "Again?" and plow into something, a canned routine if nothing else. Have you been hit on thousand times today?". You are telling them you are hitting on them. Don't do that. Also if you HAVE to react say it's better to say "Today's your lucky day I'm here" instead of telling them you think they are better than you. I said "where are you from ?" This is asking them to contribute to the conversation instead of running game on them. I asked the other "What's…
/r/seduction08/10/11 11:15 PM
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It doesn't matter what it sounds like. Do you think she'll care if she's been waiting for the kiss?
/r/seduction07/10/11 08:22 PM
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I'd try something little cleverer along the same lines like "you must get strong arms scanning all those groceries" or something, which contributes a little more to the convo.
/r/seduction07/10/11 08:11 PM
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Agree and say you're thinking the same thing and wasn't it awesome it just clicked. hen talk about how much fun something is.
/r/seduction13/09/11 12:08 PM
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I tell her I'd see her tonight at the restaurant and figure out when to meet up. You are telling her you can't think of anything interesting to do, which is boring. Also you're saying the two of you should meet solely based on her attraction to you. This puts her in the position of having to implicitly admit her attraction to you by showing up. I wait 5 days and call her and leave her a voicemail asking when she was free to hang out. You are telling her you don't have anything better to do than …
/r/seduction13/09/11 10:44 AM
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Tease her about being the new girl and say you're working on some pranks, but don't actually do it. Not too much attention though. EDIT: Also be helpful if she needs help, but don't hover around looking for an opportunity.
/r/seduction02/09/11 04:13 PM
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My experience is that most girls like a little teasing about their hair style -- unless it really looks crappy. I have also noticed that girls will change their hairstyle to whatever you suggest if they like you. Which is a lot of fun.
/r/seduction29/08/11 10:43 PM
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I'm too tall and I feel really awkward dancing There is definitely something here for you. Stop feeling awkward about dancing. It is self limiting nonsense. If you don't know how to stop feeling awkward, look around here. Try bookstores. There are plenty of girls hanging around in bookstores because they are bored and lonely. but I'm pretty sure 99% of the Indian girls don't drink, and asking them out for beer is out of question. Some girls down right hate guys who drink. Drinking isn't really a…
/r/seduction29/08/11 10:00 PM
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I think you should try to contribute something before you try to get her to submit to your requests. Coffe would not have been much fun anyway if you are so nervous. So step one should be to see if you can get her to laugh. Step two is to try to get her to do something, but not because she would be with you doing it, because its awesome. Like drinking the best coffee in the world or something.
/r/seduction26/08/11 05:27 PM
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Listen for more cues to keep the conversation going. This is great. Ignore WHAT she says and ask yourself WHY she said it.
/r/seduction24/08/11 12:09 AM
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Who cares what her name is anyway? Seriously. You're better off with "you look like a Fred to me. I'll tell you why....[insert quick thinking]" than "What's your name?" If you desperately want to know what her name is (for some reason) you can always say "I bet you can't say your name backwards five times in ten seconds" or something. But don't just ASK.
/r/seduction24/08/11 12:04 AM
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I have this little smirk I do to cheer me up. It works.
/r/seduction15/08/11 11:08 AM
1

"Maybe I'll see you around" sounds like "Maybe if you ask me what my telephone number is I will tell you." "yeah right (fuck)" as a reaction is you assuming there was no attraction. Also I thought asking about what she would be doing at her friend's party sounded a little creepy. It's better to tell her how awesome your life is and get her to qualify herself by volunteering the information that she does similar things.
/r/seduction07/08/11 04:49 PM
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Yeah but also note that "Tyler Durden" says he likes to pump himself with "practice" openers even if he gets blown out.
/r/seduction07/08/11 04:24 PM
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Not at all. It is a sympathic and realistic view of female behavior.
/r/seduction18/07/11 01:10 PM
1

If you want to keep her, focus on improving the sex. Girls react so emotionally to good sex that it is hard for anyone not in her pants to compete. EDIT: Improving it for her, of course
/r/seduction18/07/11 07:30 AM
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Or Me: On one condition. Her: What? Me: You buy me one first. Her: I don't any money. Me: Aw poor thing. Ok ok, I'm not heartless. I'll make a bet with you... [Launch some routine or other] It has the disadvantage of getting her to say no/lying to you, which you don't want.
/r/seduction17/07/11 07:30 PM
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I totally agree and I also think that it is the guy's duty to start up the convo because the girl has already contributed by putting on make-up.
/r/seduction16/07/11 09:47 PM
1

Also change your drinking habits when you do this. For example, order the smallest quantity of alcohol you can get, and sip it slowly.
/r/seduction16/07/11 09:36 PM
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I just think it belongs in r/relationships because the focus here is on freeing yourself from limitations.
/r/seduction17/05/11 01:08 PM
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Not really appropriate for this forum. The answer you get here is yes, worrying about where you meet someone is just another self-limiting belief.
/r/seduction15/05/11 10:11 PM
2

Other way around. Game make me lose interest in porn.
/r/seduction17/04/11 01:39 PM
1

One time is when you are talking about techniques girls use to make themselves pretty.
/r/seduction17/04/11 01:33 PM
1

As far as inner game goes, your best bet is looking around and gaining hands on experience with other women ASAP.
/r/seduction03/04/11 04:21 PM
1

Also when you go to a movie you set yourself up to be compared with Brad Pitt or someone.
/r/seduction28/03/11 05:10 PM
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I don't think you failed at all. You learned a thing or two, didn't you? And you were man enough to go out. Don't forget that. Repeat ASAP. Order smaller drinks and sip on them.
/r/seduction26/03/11 12:12 PM
1

Hurry up, shoe' not going to wait for ever.. and what Erin said.
/r/seduction24/03/11 05:08 PM
1

The bitch shield is about "breaking state". "State" is the self confidence a guy needs to approach and be attractive. It allows a guy to "be himself", which is the (pretty much useless) advice women tend to give men. For example, if a girl tells a guy she has a boyfriend, it saps his confidence and sort of turns him into a loser. His recommended response is to assume she only half serious and say something like "Me too, I bet mine's cuter than yours" (or just ignore it) and change the subject. B…
/r/seduction21/03/11 09:17 AM
1

I agree. If not, do something cheap and mildly sporty like minigolf or wall climbing for beginners.
/r/seduction20/03/11 09:32 PM
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Sorry, that wasn't very clear was it? "Bitch shield" is the term used in the community to mean acting bitchy to ward off unwanted attention. It's a little mean but works, so it's used all the time. I doubt there is any alternative. Except maybe saying straight up you really don't want any attention.
/r/seduction20/03/11 08:50 PM
1

The "bitch shield" is a tried and true method.
/r/seduction20/03/11 08:26 PM
2

Game is about dealing with female needs.
/r/seduction14/03/11 12:07 AM
1

This is about right, if done with humor. It's a disqualification, which builds the comfort she's looking for. I would recommend something a little softer like, "That's exactly why I'm gonna kick you out after a half an hour." Anyway it shows she's basically on board but you are coming on too strong. Also see the remark below about the etchings.
/r/seduction14/03/11 12:05 AM
2

Yeah, make sure its fun/justifiable for her, not just escalation for its own sake. And beware of stuff girls say to other girls especially in the presence of males. Could be totally true of course.
/r/seduction13/03/11 11:55 PM
0

Kissing in front of other people is an extremely strong IOI. Or t means she's just playing you and will flake.
/r/seduction09/03/11 09:01 PM
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She feels relaxed and unselfconscious.
/r/seduction09/03/11 08:15 PM
1

trick them into having sex Women like sex. Trust me on this one. I've never been with a woman Then maybe you should ease off on lecturing other people about what women think.
/r/seduction26/02/11 11:00 AM
1

Maybe I was a little unclear. ;-) What I mean is don't tell the target your gaming her. And don't explain too much about your methods or she'll guess. That's my experience anyway.
/r/seduction14/02/11 11:58 AM
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It's a cold read really, and a good solid idea.
/r/seduction08/02/11 07:12 PM
2

Good story but be careful about revealing too much game.
/r/seduction08/02/11 08:52 AM
1

Opening should be dead easy. Just say anything in English, it's usually enough to get the ball rolling. In fact the problem may be ejecting from convos where people want free English lessons.
/r/seduction05/02/11 05:55 PM
1

"Sorry for bothering you then, have a good night" Why are you sorry? Don't apologize. According to your story, that was when she switched from "not tonight" to "I have a boyfriend". Good comeback though. Also age is not an issue.
/r/seduction04/02/11 07:24 PM
1

This sounds really risky to me.
/r/seduction03/02/11 11:11 PM
1

More likely it was the offer to "hang out", which sounds pretty boring to me. Better ask if she wants to go to the most awesome party in the world and meet up with a few of your movie star friends.
/r/seduction03/02/11 12:43 PM
3

One little trick to get yourself out of interview mode is when you catch yourself doing it, change the question to a guess. So instead of asking her where she comes from, tell her she comes from Minnesota. Then attempt a recovery. (This will cause you to crash and burn at first. But you already are anyway.) So you say, "Whahere do you work?" Then you realize you didn't want to ask. So put your hand over your eyes and say, "Wait, stop... let me guess..." to win time. Then say the first stupid thi…
/r/seduction03/02/11 12:37 PM
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And there's all these hot actors to compete with. She'll come away thinking, "Damn Brad Pitt is hot", which doesn't do you much good.
/r/seduction31/01/11 03:38 PM
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She brought a nice looking guy as a back up in case you were weird Which is why it's a good idea to invite her out someplace with your friends -- take the pressure off and provides social proof.
/r/seduction31/01/11 03:37 PM
1

If your confident about her interest, get a peck on the cheek as a compliance test. Do it in some kind of joke context. Ask for it by tapping your cheek.
/r/seduction31/01/11 01:59 PM
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Do a google image search of "salman rushdie" or "salman rushdie girlfriend".
/r/seduction29/01/11 06:44 PM
1

Invite some friends over and get her to come too. Get her to participate somehow, like making a salad. Do it together. Also relax. EDIT: Also I think girls hesitate to give guys their numbers because it makes them traceable. But if you're living in the same building, the rules aren't really the same.
/r/seduction28/01/11 09:10 PM
3

Try AMOG tactics. Give her a nickname and the next time she does it, score her. "Six out of ten on that one pumpkin. High five! Psych!" (Or something actually funny. Also the high five thing is risky.) But remember, it might be IOIs so take it easy. Touch her. And try to get her to do little things for you to test if she's at all interested.
/r/seduction28/01/11 09:04 PM
1

Also: touching your heading and face in public are beta things to do, generally speaking.
/r/seduction27/01/11 03:00 PM
1

A routine is just a joke or a story or a little game.
/r/seduction27/01/11 01:21 PM
1

Yeah...but asking some her name isn't contributing much to the convo so follow up asap with some routine.
/r/seduction26/01/11 08:19 PM
1

No need to pay, she's fine, she can pay herself. It's no more rude for you not to pay than it is for her not to pay. You can't just give all your money away to random people. All you'Re doing is telling her that you don't think you are interesting enough for her to hang around with if you aren't a free meal ticket.
/r/seduction25/01/11 03:53 PM
2

It's partly about looks, which is subjective, and partly about self esteem.
/r/seduction25/01/11 03:32 PM
1

So what's the recipe?
/r/seduction24/01/11 08:01 PM
1

I flew from London to Las Vegas about a year ago and flew back a week later. There was this very short bald guy on both flights who made a great impression on me. He had a wide muscular build and a loud voice and always seemed to be laughing about something. I didn't talk to him and can't remember much of I overheard him saying but one line was, "So I was walking into the room and I could just hear 'The Eye of the Tiger' playing in the background (loud laugh).. and I..." I don't think his shortn…
/r/seduction24/01/11 04:36 PM
1

yeah, not much hopes of results of course.
/r/seduction24/01/11 02:40 PM
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Assume she is still interested. Do something attractive, like tell a joke. Don't get mad or defensive.
/r/seduction24/01/11 02:11 PM
1

Maybe she just likes roughhousing, or is used to dealing with guys on that level and is trying to connect. Maybe she had two big brothers and misses playfighting.
/r/seduction24/01/11 02:06 PM
1

Like birthday-fscking-present irrationality ;-)
/r/seduction24/01/11 10:27 AM
4

Right, this stuff is solid gold. And it means a shit test is actually an IOI!
/r/seduction24/01/11 09:37 AM
3

Have you considered that maybe it's your own game that's preventing you from going further? Always assume it's your fault. Watch an interview with a pro tennis player who's just lost a game. You never hear, "Wow the other guy was playing incredibly well today". You always hear, "I didn't find my game today". That's how they got to the top.
/r/seduction24/01/11 09:29 AM
1

A lot of girls may have NO intention of hooking up at the bar or club. Don't get too worried about what the girl's intentions are. It's like the old salesman's motto: "If the customer leaves the store with exactly what he wanted when he came in, you've sold him nothing." Like guys, girls want sex. The trick is to break down her built-in resistance to her own desires, aka ASD. In cheap romance novels this is called "getting swept off her feet".
/r/seduction24/01/11 09:26 AM
1

Loud music kills convo but doesn't interfere with visual attractiveness. It's not a level playing field, because women derive status primarily on visual attractiveness, but men don't. You might want to try an easier venue if you lack confidence.
/r/seduction24/01/11 08:07 AM
1

ok thanks
/r/seduction24/01/11 07:45 AM
2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgement_of_Paris
/r/seduction22/01/11 07:08 PM
6

Nerdiness is my shtick. Your mileage may vary.
/r/seduction22/01/11 12:32 AM
2

heh, didn't think of that
/r/seduction22/01/11 12:10 AM
3

It's like that old song, "Couple more shots of whiskey, these Jersey girls start lookin' good". It's always good to be able to sing a few bars.
/r/seduction21/01/11 11:10 PM
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I'd tell them the story of the Judgement of Paris and the Apple of Discord, but that's just me.
/r/seduction21/01/11 11:08 PM
1

Ironically, the best way of saving it is treating it as a lost cause.
/r/seduction21/01/11 01:37 PM
1

Don't buy her anything, or say you like buying her stuff. It's just telling her you think you are undeserving of her company and need to "earn" the right to hang out with her. Anyway, she's not going to sleep with you because you bought her a beer. Don't reason with her about dating, it's just reminding her she's not interested in you. Do something attractive and memorable. Imagine meeting her again ten years from now on Facebook. What is she going to write? Maybe she'll write, "Oh I remember yo…
/r/seduction21/01/11 11:45 AM
1

"I have a boyfriend" means "You're coming on too strong". When you've come in so cocky just blow it off with something naughty and launch another routine.
/r/seduction20/01/11 11:56 PM
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I got inspired my the Amy Weinhouse song "Amy Amy Amy" which is about what it's like for a girl to lose control. It starts like this: Attract me Till it hurts to concentrate Distract me, stops me doin' work I hate And just to show him how it feels I walk past his desk in heels One leg resting on the chair From the side he pulls my hair (Amy, Amy, Amy) Although I've been here before (Amy, Amy, Amy) He's just too hard to ignore Masculine, you spin a spell I think you'd wear me well (Amy, Amy, Amy)…
/r/seduction20/01/11 11:47 PM
3

What's the prison knife game?
/r/seduction20/01/11 11:25 PM
3

Yes, and a drink doesn't sound very enticing to me. Better oversell her on the venue as in "me an some friends are going to the most awesome place where they make the best Calpirinhas in the world you so come along with us" (or something)
/r/seduction18/01/11 04:52 PM
1

Or check out that youtube video of Style doing the five lies game. Imagine running that routine on the cutest girl you know. If that doesn't get you to smile nothing will.
/r/seduction14/01/11 12:46 AM
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Haha you look a little dorky when you laugh like that. (imitate her) You totally remind me of this kid I knew like in grade school. He had the exact same body posture when he was cracking up. We used to always race to see who could do math homework faster. He was also a very competitive speller. Did you guys have like spelling bees at school?
/r/seduction13/01/11 10:29 PM
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"Come over to my place, we'll cook spaghetti and drink red wine. Did you know that Italians always put a glass of red wine and a few strips of bacon in the bolognese sauce? Here, you grate the Parmesan while I fry the garlic. One time when I was backpacking through Italy this farmer invited me to dinner and his wife showed me the perfect way to cook spaghetti -- watch! Oh... why did they invite me to dinner? Well..."
/r/seduction13/01/11 10:13 PM
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Why do you want to "expose" her? What does this entail, in your mind? You sound like a stalker. Let her be, she's fine.
/r/seduction13/01/11 10:06 PM
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This is silly. You aren't even trying. more attractive than me So be more attractive. So how long should I wait before I ask her out, a week, a month? Three seconds. I do care about her immensely and really believe my feelings are more than infatuation. What should I do seddit? Go look for a woman who can return your feelings.
/r/seduction13/01/11 10:04 PM
1

In actuality you have A LOT more value than this teeny bopper. Agreed. This also makes it easier to do childish jokes and bar tricks, I think, because there's less need to be self conscious. I talk a lot about my (extensive) travels and the many odd jobs I've had.
/r/seduction12/01/11 04:56 PM
1

I am nearly 50 and women are much younger than me love befriending me. When they introduce me to their friends the reaction is always, "Wow I can't believe you're so old!" But I don't think "nice" girls under thirty usually consider me an option as a boyfriend. Mainly I think it would be too embarrassing, but who knows? But anyway I don't think looks is the issue. Sometimes I'm talking to a girl and I'll say something that really works and I suddenly get this wide-eyed, slack-jawed stare that ho…
/r/seduction12/01/11 04:47 PM
2

2nd layer Cultural things This is an extremely good piece of advice that applies to anyone you talk to, male of female. Say you meet a girl and she tells you she has a twin sister. Instead of saying "Identical twins?" or whatever, which she's heard a thousand times, ask her to name the top five questions or remarks she hears when she tells someone she's a twin. Or try to guess them. Same thing works for foreigners, vegans, strippers, people with funny names, you name it. It's a version of the "A…
/r/seduction11/01/11 02:56 PM
1

k for kiss
/r/seduction11/01/11 01:40 PM
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Exactly. All you're saying here is, "I want to be around you, don't care when." You need to find something awesome and sell it to her as such. Then she'll think "OK, I can go and be entertained one way or another." Also do something with friends and get her to come along. That proves you HAVE friends, and takes pressure off both parties.
/r/seduction11/01/11 01:29 PM
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Dunno about comedians, but Kurt Vonnegut remarked in "Timequake" that authors always have pretty wives, and said, "Someone should look into this".
/r/seduction11/01/11 01:22 PM
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Haha I love the way these "reporters" just ask the neighbors whether there is a lot of crime in the area instead of doing actual research.
/r/seduction07/01/11 02:39 PM
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Was it accidental? SRSLY you guys have tried and convicted him already. Maybe he's just a stupid drunk who fired the gun accidentally. Not that I feel any particular need to defend him, but how does everyone on reddit automatically know everything based on such skimpy evidence?
/r/seduction07/01/11 02:30 PM
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Your frame is that everyone's having fun. Misinterpret bad vibes as more fun and move on to more promising material ASAP. Anything else is losing your frame.
/r/seduction23/12/10 11:22 AM
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Does this come up in conversation? Is anyone asking you, "Hey where are all your friends?" If not, being self-entertained is social proof enough, as they say at RSD. If yes, tell them cool stories about what your friends are up to. Ultimately this question is about your state, not about anything anyone else is thinking.
/r/seduction16/12/10 12:07 AM
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Yeah, and from that link this one pretty much says it all http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AniJ9cEzw_w
/r/seduction14/12/10 04:53 PM
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And as Mystery says, "If our cheesy lines get too well known we'll just have to invent some new cheesy line. Which would be fun." There is a basic confusion about "canned lines" in all these discussions. Roll your own and you're good to go -- after some testing. Use the one you read on the internet and... well you have the advantage that it's field tested, but the disadvantage that it may be well known.
/r/seduction14/12/10 09:13 AM
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"This girl" is about unwillingness to fail.
/r/seduction09/12/10 12:52 AM
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Find something that isn't the thing you are afraid of, but that locks you into the thing you are afraid of. Trivial example: You are nervous about going into a bar or club alone, don't know what you'd do when you got there. The solution is to decide to go in and turn in you coat in the cloak room. You should be able to do it, and it locks you in to the environment.
/r/seduction09/12/10 12:47 AM
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Reminds me of Ghostbusters. Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say "YES"!
/r/seduction08/12/10 10:28 PM
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Great comments in this thread. Here's a starting point: when she shows up for the dinner date say there's been a change in plans and ask her to go shopping with you and maybe catch a snack on the way. Take her to a store that sells things you are really passionate about and tell her why. This probably won't work, but it will be more interesting than sitting around eating. Also, do you know any parlor tricks? Origami, sleight of hand, juggling, beatbox? Or get her to sing a Christmas carol with y…
/r/seduction08/12/10 10:09 PM
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The textbook material is counter-intuitive. The reason there are uncommon terms is that almost nobody uses these concepts in daily life, so there are no terms for them. You might as well say "Why do mathematicians always use strange words like logarithms and cosines? Can't they just use plain English?"
/r/seduction08/12/10 09:55 PM
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The difference is the willingness to fail.
/r/seduction08/12/10 09:49 PM
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You're suffering from "one-itis". Get over it by going out and meeting other people. There are millions of women out there willing to return your feelings. this girl is special Every girl is special.
/r/seduction08/12/10 09:44 PM
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I think there's a little misunderstanding here. Just this afternoon I was chatting up the new (very cute) girl in the office, building rapport by challenging her. She was qualifying herself, and it was fun. These two other girls were watching from a distance, and enjoying it. They don't know about the PUA community, but they could easily see what was going on. I wasn't fooling anyone, and I wasn't trying to. I have had similar experiences in trains. If you chat up a girl in a train with these me…
/r/seduction07/12/10 09:11 PM
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Actually it was pretty obvious that you are male.
/r/seduction07/12/10 08:36 PM
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The key question is, does it work for you in the field? The answer seems to be yes.
/r/seduction06/12/10 01:02 PM
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The point is you don't need any connection between the opener and the new material. I think "transition" is a misleading term because there is no transition. You just launch a new routine without any further ado. Like Mystery says: "End of routine, start the next one". Tyler Durdon calls this "ploughing" because you just plough ahead regardless. He is really into "state" and "inner game" and this is the crucial thing here. I can open just about anyone (using silly situational sarcasm) but walk a…
/r/seduction06/12/10 12:16 PM
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Yeah, the "too many spies" remark was awesome -- it doesn't come any clearer than that.
/r/seduction05/12/10 03:37 PM
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Good idea. Just start talking about whatever you recently read on reddit.
/r/seduction04/12/10 02:54 PM
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Bumped into this really beautiful girl in a street car yesterday. Asked her if all the zippers on her purse really worked. She showed me they didn't. Told her a story about how my neighbor brought this weird purse back from Vietnam with all these zippers on it. Segued to my own travels in Southeast Asia... Then my two female colleagues intervened and made me stop talking to her. :-( Try to do something worth talking about at least once a day: go out, fix your car, travel to another city, paint a…
/r/seduction03/12/10 02:29 PM
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About 1) Martha Stewart said that when you cook a meal and serve it, always be upbeat about it, even if it didn't work out quite the way you planned: "No excuses, no apologies". Obviously this doesn't mean you should never apologize, but it's good advice.
/r/seduction03/12/10 11:51 AM
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I've had oneitis myself, but never with a chick I never even met. This is ridiculous. I suggest you try meeting 20 girls a week for the next 6 weeks.
/r/seduction30/11/10 12:02 AM
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If he's leaning back or against a wall make him say your name twice. If he's leaning in or neutral, respond.
/r/seduction29/11/10 09:54 PM
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I agree that it's good for shy girls. Also it's good for girls who are very suspicious, like a second generation girl from a conservative third world country who is a little timid about sex and wants to find a guy to share everything with. These girls are sometimes very bossy. If you game her too hard she'll freeze up -- self deprecation is an invitation to deeper conversation. EDIT: Also if a neg goes wrong you can sometimes extract yourself with self deprecation.
/r/seduction29/11/10 09:41 PM
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The Japanese spend a lot of time donning and doffing their shoes. It's normal. I think it would be a little odd in America.
/r/seduction29/11/10 04:00 PM
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Also here's an opener that worked well: Noticed a girl laughing a and poking a guy in the chest. The next time I went to the bar to get a beer I opened by asking her if I should politely wait or throw some elbows. She laughed an told me just to shove my way through -- very feisty. Later I walked over to her and complained that her bad advice almost got me kicked out. She turned to me out her hands on her hips and started yelling it was my own fault I was a jerk and not to blame other people etc …
/r/seduction28/11/10 04:56 PM
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Don't worry about it.
/r/seduction28/11/10 04:42 PM
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Kinda ran out of steam yesterday: "I know you are best friends because of how you look at each other" works really well in any lull in the convo. Requires no intro.The punchline comes when you say, "See? You're doing it again". Commenting on accents works well because there are so many dialects and light-hearted regional rivalries in Germany. Leads to fairly deep biography talk without much effort. Sometimes its jut lisp or something, but that works as a neg if you stay light-hearted. Forbidding…
/r/seduction28/11/10 10:38 AM
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Yeah, the confidence thing was great. I was basically waiting for a train, so I didn't have anything to prove. I noticed that I would talk to guys no one else would talk to, and they were so uptight they couldn't answer, even though I'm pretty harmless.
/r/seduction27/11/10 07:06 PM
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Yeah but it kind of forces her to say "no, I'm not interested in him [you're my soulmate]. Soulmate doesn't give her an out. It's like saying "Lets go to my place and fuck" instead of "Lets go to my place and check out my awesome stamp collection". I would make some inside joke and then say it's written in the stars that we give it a whirl or something.
/r/seduction24/11/10 09:15 PM
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She knows you're hitting on her. And if she's given IOIs you can be pretty confident she wants you to. And even if she doesn't really want you to, ploughing ahead self confidently will often change her mind. The other day I chatted up this girl who was standing in line to take a piss. Hopeless situation, and nothing came of it for various reasons. But...I got her from "Dude, go away" to smiling and telling me about some she knows who waxes his mustache. I know a guy who can open any set like thi…
/r/seduction24/11/10 08:42 PM
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You didn't chicken out. You were there. That's the first step. The evening was a success. Take your time.
/r/seduction24/11/10 08:24 PM
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Saying I hate this...I hate that... is the opposite of passionate. It is talking about things you are not passionate about, which means you aren't very passionate about the things you pretend to be passionate about. It is also very reactive.
/r/seduction24/11/10 07:54 PM
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I would answer this but I'm worried you might be out of my league. Can we be friends?
/r/seduction24/11/10 05:45 PM
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Yeah, anything physical is good. Get her out of the "I'm sitting here like a good girl and you're over there" frame.
/r/seduction24/11/10 08:56 AM
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Yeah the movie is especially bad.
/r/seduction24/11/10 12:34 AM
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Talk about her clothes and tug on the item in question in a teasing manner. Think of some dumb reason to push her foot with yours. Make her switch seats with you and switch back again. Take her hand and twirl her around. Give her a (gentle) body check. Fix her hair, or pull it and laugh at her. Brush an imaginary eyelash from her cheek. High five her. Tell her Tibetan monks greet each other by touching elbows and practice that. Teach her some basic yoga moves. Compare biceps. Grab her necklace a…
/r/seduction24/11/10 12:19 AM
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Ask to kiss her and she'll say no, even if she's thinking yes. Kiss her cheek before you kiss her mouth. Touch her cheek before you kiss it. Another tactic: Ask her if she wants to kiss you. If she doesn't say no, she means yes. If she says "You mean here?" go somewhere else. If she says no make a joke. Have you held her hand? If not play patticakes or cat's cradle or something. Teach her origami. Read her palm.
/r/seduction24/11/10 12:08 AM
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Most flirting advice comes from the club scene and only applies to the mood there. It depends on the girl and the mood. Teasing is a great ice breaker and filler, but mix it with real personal challenges she can meet, and don't make the mistake of drowning out what she wants to say by teasing her too much. Also tease carefully her if her self-confidence is low or there's like three guys and one girl in the convo. In fact you might get the inside track by defending her if the teasing temperature …
/r/seduction23/11/10 11:24 PM
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You are a big baby because men mature much more slowly than women. This applies to everyone, not just you, and it's already noticeable at the age of 10-12 months, and even more so with 20 year olds. And yes, women want to be manipulated by men. And no it isn't fucked up. It totally makes sense. It's fun and sexy for them. The whole idea of "being swept off your feet" by a man who's man enough to do it is the basis of romance. And why is it not fucked up? Well, why should a woman be interested in…
/r/seduction23/11/10 10:37 PM
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It means you're coming on too strong without providing a reasonable excuse for wanting to get to know her. You need to challenge her and make her prove she is worthy of you. Also criticize her playfully on her looks/clothes to disarm her. Once she's been through that, it makes sense to her that you want to invite her out. It's about her. Do both simultaneously by asking her advice on cosmetics or dressing. Don't worry about the bf, she may be just lying and she may change her mind. If it turns o…
/r/seduction23/11/10 01:43 PM
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Positive thinking is often delusional, but not in this context. Also, sleeping with women is not unethical. And if you think you can trick women you totally underestimate them. Most women your age see you as a big baby that just doesn't get it.
/r/seduction23/11/10 01:33 PM
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Google image search: salman rushdie girlfriend Kurt Vonnegut says in "Timequake" that all writers have pretty wives. "Someone should look into this".
/r/seduction15/11/10 10:26 PM
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I'm dangerously close to 50 and the 20-something girls in the office really like flirting with me. Also when the occasion arises they will drag me onto the dance floor and insist on dancing for hours -- until 5 AM in one recent case. This has happened four times in the last year involving 3 female colleagues, all more than 20 years younger than me. Another slightly older one (28) insists on cooking or sharing lunch with me nearly every day. The only other hot chick in our (small) office just sta…
/r/seduction15/11/10 09:23 PM
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I'm really bad at remembering names. It took me decades to realize that it is a good thing. It saves time and makes you seem somehow interesting. I noticed that if I meet someone that I find attractive for whatever reason, and he/she can't remember my name, I have the automatic desire to prove myself worthy. So now I just go "Oh yeah I forgot your name, what was it again?" I might do some funny stuff like saying "I disremember your name was it Rumpelstiltskin?" or "I'm pretty sure you have a nam…
/r/seduction22/09/10 10:46 PM
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