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Their genetics are the problem. Personality doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 08:58 AM
3

None. They either come to me or nothing.
/r/seduction06/03/25 08:42 AM
1

"Waaargh Chad won't commit." Being incel is a male thing. That's why they don't let women into their forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 08:23 AM
1

And would you say the same for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 05:57 PM
9

Take responsibility for themselves? Most already do that. I'm not really sure where you think men should start taking responsibility for. Would you argue that modern women should take responsibility too?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 04:00 PM
1

Many of them do. Their only saving grace. Any woman has a plethora of options. They're just too choosy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 03:59 PM
1

Female "incel" = Chad won't commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 03:57 PM
2

Why would women want to be incels? Makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 03:28 PM
2

Incels are men. The original incel was always a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 02:02 PM
1

Women cannot be incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:06 PM
0

Idk what to tell you, other than not expecting there to be some magical words that you can use to make a woman sexually attracted to you.
/r/seduction02/03/25 09:40 AM
1

Lol you're overthinking it. All of the times I've pulled at clubs/bars the girl did pretty much all of the work. These places are all about raw attraction from the woman, so it should be a smooth process.
/r/seduction02/03/25 08:23 AM
1

Men's standards are already on the floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:34 AM
1

They already do approach me and talk to me at bars and clubs. The way it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 10:36 AM
1

How it should be. Rather than men being pathetic enough to approach. It makes me happy that fewer and fewer men are approaching women. If women complain about it then it's even funnier, and men should continue not doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 06:14 AM
1

Why don't they approach men themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 06:04 AM
1

Women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:46 PM
1

They don't want it. The more men who stop, the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:04 PM
2

They don't. Women hate men approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 09:36 PM
1

Women don't want men to approach them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:57 PM
0

You can be arrested for walking up to a girl and asking her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:58 PM
1

This is it. If you need to approach as well, you've lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:21 PM
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Do they not automatically want me dead?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:20 PM
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They don't tend to share the same interests as I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:05 PM
9

That's 90% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:35 PM
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They're not like men, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:34 PM
0

What about what you listed shows good quality as a wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:58 AM
1

Lol it has little to do with how they're raised. Men are probably just better at it. Women tend to prefer people, and men prefer things. That explains why men and women have different career paths on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:52 PM
0

Dating apps work great for me. They're not a scam.
/r/seduction11/02/25 10:49 PM
1

Because they don't try to go into it as much, but when they do, they often have preferential treatment. The preferential treatment is literally in the links I shared. Be honest, do you think it's an issue that men dominate?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:49 PM
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Maybe men are just better suited on average? Hence why they dominate?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:46 PM
1

Why is it so important? It's an issue when they get preferential treatment, particularly in hiring practices. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1418878112 https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2015.01532/full It's probably the same for degrees too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:45 PM
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Why is it so important that they do? Men still dominate STEM, as much as these groups you mention hate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:43 PM
1

Well, good for you. Look at all of the attempts to get women into STEM. "They" refers to the current trend. The zeitgeist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:42 PM
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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/time-blunt-too-many-young-180000320.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEdAQAh-XAYjDjRZjckdSI-rnSE0b5x7SVUTocXL4MjkMKZ1REZR9DsH2705p2LyhoR2W1Maz8nvbr3AnLv3Svn3CfPM0as5gk4L6L-Xhg17SOcbKxCOzfzbDPW2K8_UcKMMMBLPbLfdACr6wk2M8_3-eguTHI6SVU16QViy32kN
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:39 PM
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Given how keen they are to get women in (STEM in general), it appears so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:38 PM
2

Yet they provably are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:37 PM
1

Exactly, they see degrees as useless. Why are you so proud of getting a degree?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:37 PM
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I didn't say it was, although they're becoming more and more political.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:36 PM
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Most degrees are useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:35 PM
1

You really don't. Hence why more men aren't going to college as they realise it's not worth the investment in most cases. Women are free to go into debt as much as they want, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:35 PM
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Keep the useless degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:33 PM
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My point is that college largely is a waste of time/a scam and the more people who see it that way the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:32 PM
-1

Ironic, considering you can't give a good reason to gain a useless degree other than becoming a doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:31 PM
7

Women don't want to be approached, so this is what they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:24 PM
1

You don't need a degree for these things. If people are getting huge debt from useless degrees from useless colleges, then that's their fault. If you want to go into debt over a shitty history degree, then you've only got yourself to blame. He is an anomaly. Likewise, you haven't provided any actual reasonable arguments as to why degrees are needed unless you want to be a doctor. Keep coping with your love for degrees. Hopefully more will realise how unnecessary college is in most cases. Particu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:23 PM
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Because women don't want men approaching them. Fun and charming don't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:56 PM
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You weren't embarrassed to receive it? I'm always ashamed if a gf buys me a gift as it means I'm not fully human.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:13 PM
1

How many successful business owners have Business degrees? Look at the general consensus on it. Your bf is an anomaly. Yes, History is largely useless. Lawyers will become largely redundant, too, with AI. Even with computing, you don't necessarily need a degree for many jobs What happens with degree inflation? Which is what us currently happening. BTW, therapy is a scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:09 PM
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But they'd reject me anyway so I don't even look at them in person, that's why I only do OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:48 PM
1

Because most degrees aren't worth spending tens of thousands on, I'm sure you know that. You mentioned things that were irrelevant (such as your dickhead bf). How is that different? I mentioned all these useless degrees, like History and Business. You came up with some random anecdote. These degrees aren't worth the time and money for the vast majority of people. Many people with degrees even struggle to find jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:29 PM
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I'm talking objectively. You haven't given any reasonable or convincing arguments so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:24 PM
1

Also, a teacher is a crap job so you listing it is hardly helping your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:20 PM
1

It's not an opinion. It's pretty objective. You even admitted that the degrees I listed were useless, but okay. And he got into a needless and stupid debt which could have been avoided. Yeah, university is shit. It's meant to be shit. I'm embarrassed I even went.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:15 PM
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OLD works well for me. Where else would I meet women? It's the best way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:13 PM
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I just want to make a quick buck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:10 PM
1

Oh, it does. Just put up a dating profile, and you'll be good. What if these men know they'll be rejected, so don't try? They don't even look at women in person as women don't want them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:10 PM
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It is true, though. You going into massive debt isn't worth it over a useless degree. He probably didn't need stupid his degree for that. I have two businesses which do well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:09 PM
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Women don't want to meet most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:07 PM
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They're all useless and aren't worth the money laid. Your bf did Business? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:07 PM
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Art, History, Women's Studies, English, Film, Business, Art History, Communications, Surfing, Drama, etc. are all useless degrees. https://en.uhomes.com/blog/most-useless-degrees
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:56 PM
1

But what about guys who avoid women entirely as they know they'll be rejected? What would you say to them? So you think it's good for men to be delusional?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:50 PM
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No, I wasn't, you're just being stupid. They're a waste of time because you don't need to obtain them and you're paying good money for a bullshit degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:47 PM
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It is a waste of time in general. That's why the more people who see it for what it is the better. I didn't get catty. I'm very direct. Most majors are a waste of time, correct. Yes, I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:44 PM
1

And where can men learn this sypposed charisma? Can it work for ugly guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:43 PM
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What? I didn't say that. That's very bad reading comprehension. It's not a waste if you actually need the degree, and it provides a lucrative career. Gender Studies very much is a waste. You're paying to learn fuck all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:33 PM
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Good. If the college system collapsed, we'd be in a better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:21 PM
1

How do you even make female friends as a guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:11 PM
1

I never said they all were. Engineering isn't, and it's still very much dominated by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:10 PM
1

I have my money, I just don't want their money. Like how I sell on all gifts I've received from gfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:06 PM
1

Why would she tell me as I should care?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:03 PM
1

Charisma doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:03 PM
1

Whenever they buy me an expensive gift I either sell it on or dispose of it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:02 PM
4

It's great that fewer men are attending College.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:00 PM
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Well, some are saying it's an issue. But it's largely a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:58 PM
2

It does make me laugh when women tell me about their career on apps as if it's meant to impress me and make me more attracted tbf.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:58 PM
0

I didn't say all were. But it's a good thing that fewer men go to college, that is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:53 PM
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As long as she's not a leach and not an airhead with actual intelligent conversations, I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:53 PM
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Many modern degrees are a waste of time. It's a good thing that fewer men go to college as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:49 PM
1

What if you spend your whole time at the bar/table without talking to women and looking at your phone?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 09:08 AM
1

If you need to simp and go on dinner dates, you are unattractive. Thanks for agreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:55 PM
2

And why would you take a date to one? Why simp? Imagine being that pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:53 PM
1

So you only eat on silly dinner dates? Why would a supposedly tall, handsome and rich guy need to simp?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:42 PM
2

But even for longterm you still have multiple suitors.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:07 PM
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Not on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:29 AM
2

Women always have multiple options for both long term and short term.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:30 AM
1

They don't care about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:28 AM
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Women don't care about men or their issues and men don't care about men and their issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:26 AM
2

That's through choice. The vast majority of men have no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:24 AM
2

I'm saying that personality doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:42 PM
2

Personality doesn't matter. Your bizarre anecdote doesn't shit. This guy you're talking about ie probably decently attractive. Are you suggesting that I try and convince s woman to try and find me attractive? Wtf do my interests have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:33 PM
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Accept your limitations, never simp, never try to convince a woman to like you, realise attraction isn't a choice and don't approach women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:21 PM
1

I like to look at actual realistic and actionable solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:17 PM
2

They bribe them in most cases and it's not a good relationship. These guys sacrifice their dignity for a girl who isn't even attracted to them. So what do you suggest I do if I wanted to meet women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:09 PM
2

That still won't make you attractive if you're average.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:59 PM
2

The average man doesn't have the luxury, though. Even if he gave up on women, it doesn't change the fact that nobody wants him. There is no perceived value. You're either attractive or you're not. As women only want extremely attractive men in 2025. How the fuck are you going to have an abundant mindset if you can't even get one woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:38 PM
1

Yet you offer horrendous advice. So what would you say to an average guy who has never asked a woman out or even approached one irl as he knows it's a guaranteed rejection? Why do you think that somehow just being confident will make men extremely attractive to women? Even if they're not good-looking? Why do you think you're in a position to offer advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:09 PM
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It's not down to "limiting beliefs", it's facing reality. You telling men to simply be delusional is insane. The only men with options are highly attractive men. Most men have no options with women. Face it. Women have insane standards now. To say otherwise is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:45 PM
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And you think that confidence means anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:57 PM
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That's because only extremely attractive men have options. Even if men didn't worship pussy, it wouldn't change. Your mindset means absolutely fuck all. Unless you're a very attractive man, then women don't want you. I know plenty of men who have NEVER approached or asked a woman out because they know for a fact that it would be a rejection and women don't want them. These men don't look at women or talk to them and ignore them completely when out. They even move to the other side if one sits ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:55 PM
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Then why do many women think that all men have it easy in dating and have multiple options?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:17 PM
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That's because they only look at the most attractive men who have multiple options. They have no interest in most men who have zero options.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:51 PM
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Women are only attracted to highly attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:45 PM
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They do to some extent. No, because men don't have power over women in the dating market unless they're a highly attractive man. The average woman will always have greater value than the average man who is worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:32 PM
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Where does confidence come from? Never use your finances as a flex in dating. These things only work if he has a good genetic baseline to work with. Many men have tried what you've suggested, but it never worked for them. That's why they're so bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:31 PM
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How will he build himself up?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:16 PM
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I see things for what they are. You recommending that guys be delusional will only hurt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:03 PM
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Socialisation isn't a factor. Men are just meant to have scarcity. Women are the choosers. Men simp and are desperate because of their infinitely higher libidos. They need to be dance monkeys to have any chance. They lose their dignity to have sex. Men will never collectively do this. Men will throw each other under the bus for pussy. Even when the ratio is in favour of men, women will only flock to the most attractive men. That's why men shouldn't go to useless singles events. It's funny how me…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:57 PM
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Oh, yeah. I'm sure that if I imagine it into existence, then it will come true! Being delusional is a good thing, ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:48 PM
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Mindset doesn't mean shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:35 PM
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No it won't because men have a significantly higher sex drive and find most women somewhat attractive. Most men are unattractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:33 PM
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Because most men have no value in terms of dating. They can't devalue something that doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:29 PM
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A big thing to consider is that women can still have multiple options at any point and so know they can get back into a relationship or a quick hookup with an attractive guy whenever they want. Most men don't have this luxury and so most of the time it's forced singlehood. Most men should be content being single, absolutely. They will have to get used to it as most will never experience genuine attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:16 PM
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Men find the average woman decently attractive. They have very low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:36 PM
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Why would a handsome, tall, rich guy go to dinner lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:01 AM
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Most men are hideous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:59 AM
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Damn, it's brutal for most men out there. No wonder so many are giving up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:56 AM
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You can be arrested for street harassment in the UK. Anytime you approach a woman, it is harassment. Look it up. You should be happy if men don't approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 12:50 PM
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Do you think it's better if men didn't approach at all and left women alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 11:42 AM
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Approaching any woman is harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:32 AM
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Because rarely are women genuinely attracted to their boyfriend or husband, he's just a placeholder in many cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:27 PM
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I look at reality. For instance, if a woman offers to be my friend, I tell her I see no benefit to it (unless it's FWB, OFC). Also, you are aware that a woman being in a relationship with you doesn't mean she's attracted to you, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:20 PM
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No, it never works. Loads of guys I know have been rejected. Being friends first doesn't work. Also, meeting through friends doesn't buy attraction. You're just usually a faithful simp whilst she fucks on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:14 PM
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Then why do women on here always complain about creeps? Meeting through friends can't buy genuine attraction? Do you think it's worth me trying in person? I do really well online but in person it would never work and would be 100% rejection. It's a really bad idea to start off as friends, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:07 PM
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It doesn't work. Women don't want to meet men irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:01 PM
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All that does is give them an ego boost. Apps are much better. It's low effort, high reward whilst in person is high effort, no reward. Why should I approach her? She doesn't want me to and it's a guaranteed rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:55 PM
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You can be thrown in prison for speaking to women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:51 PM
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Why would you approach in person? Why would I try it, for instance? What's in it for me? All it does is give the woman an ego boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:48 PM
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The UK. Look at street harassment laws. It's not worth it for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:46 PM
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Why would you want to do this? If you're not approached, then you are ugly. You have to do these things as you're unattractive. I've never approached a woman or asked one out in person as it's a guaranteed rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:41 PM
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Plenty of guys are being thrown in prison for saying hi to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:37 PM
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Plenty have been thrown in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:36 PM
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No, you really don't need to approach. Plenty of guys never approach and have loads of success. If you need to approach, then you're unattractive. Approaching doesn't work. More men are realising this. If you approach, you've lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:34 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:13 PM
1

I can do both at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:10 PM
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Even if I was looking for marriage, why would it be better to wait?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:40 PM
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Most people (especially men) won't. It's natural selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:39 PM
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Yep, and that's good. Luckily, I've actually experienced women who genuinely found me hot, which made everything much better and more enjoyable. I wouldn't settle for less. Most men never get to experience that and so put up with far less.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:33 PM
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Many men realise that the more attractive she finds you, the better the relationship is and how she generally treats you. The more average she views you, the worse it will be. Many have realised how she likely treats you vs. the guy she's genuinely physically attracted to and expects the same experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:18 PM
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A lack of physical attraction is a horrible way to start a relationship. It will come back to haunt you at some point. Also many women today have ridiculous physical requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:12 PM
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Those are reported stats. I don't believe them. It's not assault. I just don't want someone who doesn't want me. I'll leave her. If we're not even in an official relationship, why should I wait decades to sleep with you? We're clearly not a match. So I've got to give up my enjoyment of life? Having an established relationship prior to sex is absolutely absurd in the modern age. Why would I want marriage, though? What's in it for me? As opposed to them wasting my time making me wait?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:10 PM
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Because most men have no options and can't afford to be selective.
/r/seduction02/02/25 12:15 PM
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Whilst she bangs multiple men? Lol. If she's a virgin, then maybe. Other than that, no. Am I expected to be abstinent in this time frame? Why would I want a marriage? It's pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:51 AM
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So how long should you wait? Years, even though she's slept with plenty of guys before? We're clearly incompatible and I wouldn't want a woman who has zero attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:42 AM
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I mean, you'd want a woman attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:35 AM
1

Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:24 AM
1

If she turns you down once, never ask again.
/r/seduction01/02/25 04:49 PM
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Pointing out facts isn't complaining. I state that approaching is a guaranteed rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 04:33 PM
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I've already had cosmetic surgery. Women either approach me or they find me repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 04:20 PM
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There is no "doing something wrong", it's looking wrong. I've never approached because it's a guaranteed rejection. That's why I stick to online as all women on earth find me ugly until proven otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 04:19 PM
1

Get used to the sight of pussy. So stare at yourself whenever you look into a mirror.
/r/seduction01/02/25 04:17 PM
2

Women get enough validation online. They don't need a dance monkey going up to them. I don't approach them as I know it's a guaranteed rejection. They either approach me or I do online. It works fine. It's good if men don't approach. Women don't want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:51 PM
9

That's pretty standard all over. These places have always been sausage fests.
/r/seduction01/02/25 03:29 PM
3

I'm glad we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:01 PM
2

Good. Men not approaching equals no harassment, which is what approaching is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:33 PM
4

This is what all women wanted. Long may it continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:20 PM
7

Then men shouldn't approach at all. Let them get what they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:18 PM
2

How is not approaching women an issue? Explain. If you need to approach, then you've already lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:11 PM
2

I advise men what works and what doesn't. Approaching women (aka simping) doesn't work and isn't worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:09 PM
2

Whatever you say, bro. I just know what works and what doesn't. Shitty singles events and approaching definitely don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:07 PM
2

As opposed to approaching women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:05 PM
2

I'm high T, thanks. I just don't need to lower myself by being a dance monkey for no reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:03 PM
2

Lol I'm the one telling men NOT to approach women, you should be thankful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 01:58 PM
2

So your advice is to be a dance monkey and make her feel good and validated? Yes, these men are simps. Approaching doesn't work. If she doesn't approach you, then you're finished.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 01:57 PM
2

Yes, it is. You're giving her validation and thinking she's above you. Plus it never works. If you need to approach, you're unattractive. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 01:53 PM
1

You're the one who thinks approaching and simping works, you cunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 01:51 PM
1

No, they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 01:48 PM
3

I can guarantee you don't. The fact that you need to approach tells me everything. If you approach a woman, you just give her validation. I've NEVER approached a woman because it's guaranteed not to work, yet I do absolutely fine with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 01:48 PM
5

Oh yeah, boost their ego and give them validation by going up to them first. The fact you need to do that tells her that you're beneath her. Approaching is simping
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 01:44 PM
9

If you need to approach, then you've already lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 01:40 PM
6

I'm sorry to hear that. The signs are often there from the beginning, so it's best to know what to look out for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:53 AM
7

You can kind of see it from the front, but it's much more subtle. Side photos give the best accuracy as to the extent of your forward growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:52 AM
21

Nah, just don't approach them at all. It only feeds their egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:38 AM
10

Tall, good forward growth of the face, symmetry, good hair, proportional features, a good shoulder to waist ratio, etc. As opposed to bald, short, obese, recessed jaw, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:29 AM
12

Yep. The relationship is often filled with resentment and misery. It partly explains the high divorce rate and dead bedrooms. Just because a woman is in a relationship with you, it doesn't necessarily mean she's attracted to you. Men need to remember this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:27 AM
42

So it's best not to approach any of them. This is what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:16 AM
33

Because most men are unattractive to women. They don't want to speak to undesirables. Also, at best it gives her an ego boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:01 AM
52

Because women don't want to be approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:25 AM
18

Gorgeous women are seldom with average or unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:25 AM
11

Looks are largely objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:25 AM
3

Why? List your reasons. Women find the vast majority of men unattractive. The fact that you need to approach shows you're unattractive. Do you agree that it's a good thing that fewer men approach? Particularly if women don't want men to?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:02 AM
5

They are a guaranteed rejection and offer no reward. Why are you going to validate her and make her feel good? Isn't it a good thing that fewer men are approaching? For both men and women? If not, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:57 PM
1

Damn, I'm not American, but that's very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:49 PM
8

Good, then men shouldn't approach them. I hope that these women never get approached just like they want. They already have inflated egos. It is a guaranteed rejection for 95% of men. There is no reward. The risk is getting arrested, having people assault you, being humiliated, and validating the woman. Men are better off doing apps. Low effort and high reward. On apps I get good results, but approaching is a dead cert of rejection so I've never done it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:48 PM
7

It's not an awful mindset if it's reality. Women also don't want men to approach them. It's a guaranteed rejection and I hope that more and more men stop approaching entirely. A bigger loss is approaching in general. It gives the woman an ego boost, and she thinks she's above you. Approaching doesn't work, either. Men should stick to online. I at least get good results on there rather than a guaranteed rejection by approaching. Men should realise it's a pointless endeavour with high risk and eff…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:34 PM
9

If you need to approach women, then you've already lost. Why approach if it's a guaranteed rejection (for most men)?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:09 PM
10

As if these things will make a difference. Particularly approaching women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:20 PM
29

Sounds like a lot of effort for no reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:10 PM
1

The main goal of a politician is to get elected, correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:49 PM
3

I've seen plenty online. Particularly on here, Twitter/X and podcasts. Why do you think feminism teaching women to hate men is good for society? Why is feminism telling men that masculinity is bad/toxic good? Who should men have voted for? Was it even worth voting? What should men be doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:41 PM
6

It does, though. You know it. No, they're not. But both cause harm but in different ways, just like how feminists celebrate male suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:33 PM
5

Does feminism teach women to hate men and tell men that they're evil oppressors? Do you think that these things are good for society?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:27 PM
3

So feminism and other movements aren't demonising men? Sure, bro... Remember that ridiculous Gillette advert years ago? Who pushed that? That's one instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:12 PM
5

And yet demonise men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:23 PM
5

I'm making the point that no group truly cares about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:53 PM
8

Because they realised that feminists and the left in general were demonising men for years and many men were disenfranchised. They knew they could exploit it. That's what Trump did. A politician's main goal is to get elected, remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:27 PM
2

Neither will benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:25 PM
7

Neither side cares about men (men's rights and feminists/left and right).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:22 PM
1

Because bios don't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:48 AM
1

It depends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:19 PM
1

Aka women who are attracted to me. Why would I waste my time? What are you suggesting I do?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 03:03 PM
5

Yes, most men need to pay for sex. One way or another. Look at how the average man does on Tinder. He has no value. Maybe you just attract the wrong guys? What is your suggestion that most men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:47 AM
5

Opportunities how? Maybe they just didn't like you or the others? Most men don't get a chance. Most men need to pay to get sex. They will never experience genuine attraction. Women can get sex whenever and view most men as unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:23 AM
3

They don't get the opportunity. Just as most men will never experience a woman attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:19 AM
3

These men are sent this way through rejection. They don't resort to these things by not wanting to socialise usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:17 AM
1

Because I see out women who find me attractive. Most men will never find a woman who finds them attractive. So therefore I'm at a good level. Levels are about looks. Nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:14 AM
1

Well, yeah. That's how it should be. Women need to find you attractive. Otherwise, why date then? It's good to be self-aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:21 PM
1

Women are the gatekeepers of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:27 PM
1

Men really shouldn't get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:26 PM
3

I do know my level, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:19 PM
2

Yep, that's probably best. I found this out the hard way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:16 PM
2

The worst is when even the women far below your level act like they're too good for you. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:16 PM
1

Why did you take her out as if she were your girlfriend?
/r/seduction24/01/25 02:06 PM
1

Is he paying for it? I struggle to believe that a truly ugly guy is doing fine.
/r/seduction24/01/25 08:01 AM
5

Not in 2025. Ugly guys can only get laid by paying for it.
/r/seduction23/01/25 08:55 AM
3

It's not.
/r/seduction22/01/25 09:57 PM
13

Men generally have a very low bar for women's attractiveness.
/r/seduction22/01/25 09:57 PM
39

Looks don't matter.
/r/seduction22/01/25 07:57 PM
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If men aren't more rational and women, in fact, somehow more rational, what are the consequences of this for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:03 PM
-1

Never do that. A quick drink or coffee or just straight to yours.
/r/seduction20/01/25 10:36 AM
-1

Why would you go on such a long date? It should be quick and cheap.
/r/seduction20/01/25 09:00 AM
1

Yes, they do.
/r/seduction19/01/25 09:52 AM
1

Women are far more picky when it comes to looks than men are. Scarcity mindset doesn't mean anything. Most men have a scarcity mindset due to no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:53 PM
1

They do sometimes. Particularly those who aren't quite hot but just are horny and desperate. This is common. An average woman can order a hot guy from an app like you order pizza. I've seen plenty of very unattractive women even rejecting decent looking guys they met on apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:37 PM
1

They do sometimes. Particularly those who aren't quite hot but just are horny and desperate. This is common. An average woman can order a hot guy from an app like you order pizza. I've seen plenty of very unattractive women even rejecting decent looking guys they met on apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:36 PM
1

They don't want undesirable men lol. They can easily get attractive guys on Tinder and other apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:30 PM
1

They do. Particularly on apps. Plenty of men would smash/date them. Most men have no women into them unless they simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:16 PM
1

Tinder Gold worked well for me. You can get it cheaper on certain sites.
/r/seduction12/01/25 02:44 PM
1

Become as physically attractive as you can, improve wardrobe and maybe a speech coach if necessary. Don't spend on a ridiculous dating coach.
/r/seduction12/01/25 02:43 PM
1

So they need to accept that their one will have other women if he chooses. As they find most men unattractive. There is no "fair share", there are winners and losers. There isn't someone for everyone when it comes to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 02:42 PM
1

Because women are going after the most attractive men who have multiple options. If you want these men, you're going to need to accept that other women will often be involved as well. Dating is a zero-sum game for men with winners and losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 02:20 PM
1

Because men want variety. Monogamy doesn't work for them. However, most men aren't attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:59 PM
1

Beggars can't be choosers. Men don't have the luxury of choosing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:57 PM
1

Men and women are different, shock. Women are the choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:51 PM
1

Offline or online, most men are going to get rejected. The ratios make no difference. Women just find most men unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:42 PM
1

Yes, because the average man has no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:41 PM
1

Women are more picky. All evidence points to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:35 PM
1

Marrying doesn't mean anything. The fact that they have to simp "date and marry" shows how ridiculous it is. Not anymore. Try creating a Tinder account as an average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:32 PM
1

If you say so. Keep acting as if most men have it easy in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:29 PM
1

And far more options in general. Women are also much pickier on everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:27 PM
1

Massively obese women have much higher value than most men in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 09:16 AM
1

Why not? You're not even a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 09:14 AM
1

Wow, top trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 09:09 AM
2

They are prized out due to not being attractive enough. Try Tinder as an average man. No way is he getting sex from apps. When women aren't looking for a relationship, it's a choice. When men aren't, it's because they were forced out of it. Women control the current dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 09:07 AM
1

What do men want, then? Most men have incredibly low standards and have to take what they can get. Women, in particular modern ones, have completely unrealistic standards (he has to be tall, good-looking, rich and muscular). There are even songs about it. Women swipe left on 95% of men and view over 80% of men as below average. Part of the reason that women's standards are too delusional is because men's standards are too low. Men need to have higher standards, although I can't see that happenin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 09:05 AM
1

Exactly. She's just being dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 09:00 AM
2

And look at women's swiping stats to see how many men miss out. Exactly, women don't need men anymore. Most men aren't attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:36 AM
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It doesn't work lol. The fact that you have to jump through all those hoops for little or no reward shows how futile it is for most men Facts show that women view most men as unattractive, so therefore, they do not want most men approaching them or meeting them in person. Unless you're Chad it's creepy. Yes, they are priced out. Look at online dating stats. Women also don't want men to come up to them or approach them in person. Why are you against men giving up on dating? I guess people like yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:35 PM
1

As women don't want to meet men in person anymore and swipe left on most men, how exactly is that going to work exactly? This terrible "advice" you offer tells me how disingenuous you are. This doesn't take into account the modern dating market where most men are priced out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:39 PM
2

On apps? Yes, he gets no matches a lot of the time. Would you say that most men are inundated with options? What advice would you give them in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:09 PM
5

What do you think the average guy's dating life is like? Where are his options exactly? What is his experience like on apps like Tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:06 PM
7

And most men have no options. Look at dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:15 PM
1

I'm talking objectively where most men have to dumpster dive to get anything. I don't need to passport bro to get women. I can get women where I am, but the country I'm in is fucked so I'll probably eventually move.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:42 PM
5

No, but it's extremely important and the first step. Most men will never get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:39 PM
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Not just sex. They want companionship. They will just probably never have a woman who is genuinely attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:27 PM
1

I already am high T, make enough money, in good shape, box and do well with women on apps. I'm good.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:25 PM
14

It's either that or single. Women don't want most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:17 PM
14

Well, as most men have no options, they cannot afford to be picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:07 PM
1

But their standards aren't too high. Men's standards are too low if anything, that's why we see so many women overrating themselves. I asked you to tell me where the average man has options, and you didn't show evidence. Men's standards are typically low for both casual and for relationships. Please show evidence that men have too high standards. If they did, the dating market wouldn't be as it is, and men wouldn't need to take what they can get. You seem really annoyed by men dumpster diving.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:06 PM
1

You're an exception, then. Most men can't afford to as they have no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:03 PM
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Not really, I just see it being as simple as women are just extremely picky. Men just need to accept it. I don't think they should lower it or raise it, it's just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:03 PM
1

Only attractive men. Most men would fuck anything. Average men cannot afford to have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:55 PM
1

Because these women want the power in the relationship. They know that he won't leave and won't cheat as other women don't want them. He's paying for it. If one woman does want you, then none do. You likely were shooting above your level. As we've established, average men don't do well at all on apps. If they're getting dates or anything from apps, then they are, by definition, not average. I implore you to try dating apps as an average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:54 PM
1

It isn't. If women's standards are too delusional, then it's their own problem. Part of the issue is that men's standards are too low. So what if I have access to online dating and social media? Unless you're a very attractive guy, then you won't get shit on it. This is backed up by stats. It is 100,000x easier for women to get sex. How can you say it's not? Where did I say that a relationship is settling? Most men want both, but they are prized out as women don't want them due to their standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:52 PM
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They are the gatekeepers. They already do have higher standards. It's biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:40 PM
1

It's either that or their right hand for the vast majority of men. As we've established, most men have no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:40 PM
1

You're talking about the exceptions to the rule. The average man (whom we have established has zero options and value to women) chooses video games and porn as he's sent that way. How is it delusional? She told him that he has no value and isn't worthy of anything. Why would he be optimistic about that? What options does he have? If you're told as a man that there was no spark or connection, it's pretty much game over. He also was told by another woman that she felt more of a friendly vibe after…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:39 PM
1

Why would I try? It's pointless. These men aren't average then. Average men don't get anything on apps. You do have options. You have access to online dating and social media. You are just too picky. Even ugly and below average women get delusional from the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:24 PM
1

Men do want relationships. The problem is that women don't want average men. They'd like casual as well, but they can't get it. If they get into a relationship, it will most likely be with a woman who isn't attracted to them and resents them. They wouldn't have more luck. I've seen plenty of decent looking men being shot down by women way below their level from apps. Men have to dumpster dive today to get anything for the most part. You were most likely shooting above your level. Women who compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:20 PM
1

And why is it a problem exactly? These men can't get anything and so resort to porn. It's just how it is. I even know a guy who was told by a woman following a first date that she didn't feel a connection. He lost all hope and stopped trying after that. What options does he have? He literally has no connection. If one woman doesn't want you, then none do. Where is the average man getting these options? You need to show evidence. Women don't want average men going up to them or asking them out. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:16 PM
1

Where are their options coming from? Tell me. They get zero matches or likes on apps. Women have the options in dating and can afford to be picky. Most men have no women attracted to them. I have never once asked a woman out or approached one as I know it would be a guaranteed rejection due to not being a Chad. Why should I try? Explain where the average man's options are coming from?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:05 PM
1

But you even admitted that the average man has no options. He has no women attracted to him. That's why so many men are giving up and not trying as they know it's a guaranteed rejection. As the average man has zero options, why would they look for casual? They need to take what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:02 PM
1

Yeah, usually because their wife or girlfriend isn't putting out as they're not attracted to them. Men resort to porn because they know they can't get anything. Why is it an issue if men are watching porn? Isn't that what women want: for men not to approach them and leave them alone? Average Joes cannot get casual sex. Look at dating app statistics. Women don't want average men, particularly for casual. So you genuinely think that the average man has options? Wow. That's ridiculous. The average …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:00 PM
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So as the average man has no options and no woman is attracted to him, how can he afford to be picky? That doesn't make sense. Men's standards are incredibly low and have to take what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 01:57 PM
1

Because you were likely shooting way above your level.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 01:55 PM
0

Men tend to choose porn because they can't get any irl. Most men are dumpster diving like crazy, particularly as women have endless options due to social media and dating apps. Most men have to take what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 01:54 PM
0

No they don't lmao. Most men have incredibly low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 01:52 PM
1

Because women don't want to meet men irl. Online is also better for men as it's low effort, high reward. In person is high effort no reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:26 PM
1

And women view over 80% as below average LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:09 PM
1

The vast majority of men don't get shit on Tinder and other apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:03 PM
1

But why shouldn't they give up? Giving up is much better than getting married to some woman who doesn't even like you. It's also much better than guaranteed rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:57 PM
1

I already showed you that women swipe left on 95% of men on Tinder and other apps... The divorce rate is still very high. Getting married doesn't mean she's attracted to you. She will tolerate you as a placeholder but will not want you. Why are they far from hopeless? What should they do? Again, why are you against men giving up? If they want to give up, what is it to you? The data shows that they are hopeless and women only want a small percentage of men. You act as if a woman who resents you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:39 PM
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So what if they messaged them? All that shows is that they're wasting the man's time. Why on earth would you want someone messaging you who doesn't find you attractive? No, I don't say that what you claim is accurate, as men have incredibly low standards for women's looks and women have very high standards. Men have to take what they can get. Try and be an average man on a dating app and see how that pans out for you. Those men aren't good enough for them, that's why they view them as below aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:36 PM
1

By paying for it, sure. Again, that's historical data. It doesn't account for modern dating. Should I have hope as a man or should I give up? Your data even shows that it's hopeless. I, for one, have been rejected following first dates and so gave up after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:31 PM
1

Except you trying to give men false hope led by blind optimism rather than telling them the truth. You're doing more harm than good.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:29 PM
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And yet swipe right on 95% of men? Isn't it better if men just gave up on dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:28 PM
1

Thanks for proving my point that men are better off sticking to online than trying in person. Again; if men are giving up why do you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:26 PM
1

Like what? What exactly is your advice to the modern average man when no woman wants him? Surely he's better sticking to online? As said; women don't want to meet men irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:22 PM
1

Yeah, because of natural selection. They're not attractive enough and are weeded out. I have shown you the data. Women swipe left on 95% of men on Tinder and other apps. How is this not damning? Women view most men as unattractive. Okay, so how else are men going to meet women other than online? Women don't want to meet men in person. The fact that you're trying to gaslight men and act as if there's hope shows how much of a scumbag you are. Let men give up. This is better for them. The stats sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:15 PM
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I already provided evidence to show that women view most men as unattractive. You're using old historical data that doesn't show current trends where women have access to online dating. Only 40% of men in history have reproduced as well. If you're rejected as a man, why would another woman want you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:02 PM
1

Did you accidentally share this to a Reddit post rather than some dating app?
/r/seduction10/01/25 05:00 PM
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To a woman who likely isn't even attracted to them. Why shouldn't men give up? If you're rejected as a man, what hope do you have? Women also have access to dating apps and social media now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:59 PM
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Lol, her marrying you doesn't mean anything. How is Tinder different to reality? If you're an average man, you're going to get rejected either way. You're better off sticking to online as it's low effort, high reward compared to trying in person which is high effort, no/low reward. So what do you think average men should do? Have hope? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:57 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104 These figures show exactly why you shouldn't bother as a man if you're average. Women also perceive most men as below average as per Okcupid. Wouldn't you prefer it if most men gave up on dating? Be honest. If not, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:25 PM
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That's just stating facts and acknowledges how futile dating is for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:12 PM
3

Exactly. Their take was complete bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:27 AM
4

LOL, most men need to self-improve in order to get anything. What do you think the redpill movement is about? Women can just exist for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:26 AM
5

Haven't approached in 13 years lol.
/r/seduction09/01/25 10:02 AM
13

Yeah, sure. If they were interested, they would be messaging you. Why be like the other simps who double text? Why are women "not that into you at the beginning" exactly? What are they going off of? If you've already fucked her, then sure, maybe send another message. If she's just a random then forget her.
/r/seduction08/01/25 03:18 PM
37

Why? They have my number/message. They can message if needed. I've done my part. If someone doesn't respond to me, I move on.
/r/seduction08/01/25 03:06 PM
46

I delete the convo/number and never message again unless they come back.
/r/seduction08/01/25 01:11 PM
2

I guess back then, social media and apps hadn't really had the influence that they do now. People weren't as aware back then.
/r/seduction06/01/25 03:15 PM
4

In person is superficial too. Dating is superficial.
/r/seduction06/01/25 03:09 PM
2

Well, yeah. No one in their right mind would genuinely argue that looks don't matter. People aren't going to buy it.
/r/seduction06/01/25 03:07 PM
1

A relationship isn't always what you've described, but yes, it's vital to choose wisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:53 PM
0

Most men do want relationships. They just have a hard time finding them. Particularly worthwhile ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:52 PM
1

Only a small percentage. Women are extremely picky about who they're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:47 PM
2

You don't need a useless degree and student debt for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 10:09 PM
2

Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 08:36 PM
2

Do you want your son to simp and harass women? Women are the choosers, they don't want most men approaching them.
/r/seduction04/01/25 04:57 PM
1

Lol sure bro. Keep spam approaching. I bet you believe that PUA works.
/r/seduction04/01/25 02:31 PM
2

I've never had to approach and I've done just fine.
/r/seduction04/01/25 01:43 PM
2

Why?
/r/seduction04/01/25 09:39 AM
0

Why would you need to say they're cute? That's silly.
/r/seduction04/01/25 09:26 AM
0

Bars and clubs work for me as long as they approach.
/r/seduction04/01/25 09:25 AM
2

Apps are better for me. Low effort for high reward. I don't approach as it would be high effort for no reward.
/r/seduction04/01/25 09:23 AM
1

A.
/r/seduction04/01/25 09:20 AM
4

They do. Gender Studies, Surfing, etc are all useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 09:17 AM
2

Lol I'm so glad that more men are realising college is largely useless today.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 09:16 AM
2

So is college.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 09:08 AM
2

Isn't it better than being a simp and approaching? Attractive women approach. Women go after the men they want.
/r/seduction04/01/25 08:54 AM
1

Why are you so keen for men to take your advice? Isn't it better if more and more men give up when they realise that they have no hope? Women always complain about men approaching them...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:04 PM
1

Why would I take your advice when it's objectively bad? Socialising won't do shit. Yes, dating apps are better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:59 PM
1

What? No, men want women. They just have incredibly low standards. It's women who don't want most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:52 PM
1

What lie? Why should these men try and approach women and put in that effort just to get rejected? Aren't dating apps just better? Low effort, high reward vs in person (high effort, low reward). What is your advice then to the average guy? Why shouldn't he give up? Yes, it does help these men. It's far better than what you suggest and giving them false hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:52 PM
0

"Just be delusional, bro."
/r/seduction03/01/25 03:49 PM
-3

Works for some men.
/r/seduction03/01/25 03:45 PM
-2

Yes, they are. Look at the apps. Beggars can't be choosers. As most men have no options, how can they afford to be picky?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:38 PM
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If they're average looking, then they will be rejected. It's a lot of effort to just be rejected constantly. Women also don't want most men flirting with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:36 PM
-2

Men usually have to take what they can get. Their standards are very low.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:31 PM
0

Many women do have delusional standards, for sure. However, men should always aim to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:05 PM
1

Don't ever go more than two inches.
/r/seduction03/01/25 08:53 AM
5

He probably already has very low physical standards, as do most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 08:41 AM
6

Sounds like a lot of effort for minimal returns.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 07:40 AM
0

I just use apps or they can approach me in person. I don't bother otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 07:39 AM
6

Pretty sure women don't want average men flirting with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 07:31 AM
1

Sure, but as a man, pursuing is a bit pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 10:51 PM
-2

Most women aren't attracted to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:09 PM
1

Women pursue the men they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 10:01 AM
5

Yes, and we see that women only view a small number of men attractive. As nature intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 09:57 AM
0

Why would women want men to partake?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 09:55 AM
1

Invite them straight to mine.
/r/seduction01/01/25 12:27 PM
1

Guys still pay for PUA courses and coaching, so this isn't shocking.
/r/seduction01/01/25 12:26 PM
1

I mean, I'm on good terms with the vast majority of the women I've dated and still speak to them occasionally. But if I had strong feelings for one and she offered friendship I just couldn't do it.
/r/seduction28/12/24 02:23 PM
0

I wouldn't necessarily be against it, but my hobbies are very male oriented.
/r/seduction27/12/24 10:16 PM
1

Yep.
/r/seduction27/12/24 03:16 PM
-4

When some have mentioned friendship after we dated for a bit, my response has been, "I see no benefit to being friends with you."
/r/seduction27/12/24 03:06 PM
1

Yes, that's a great one. I got it as a gift and I love it. Doesn't last that long unfortunately.
/r/seduction27/12/24 01:39 PM
1

How would you even make friends with one? I only meet women online. Some have suggested friendship after we've dated for a bit and I've always said no.
/r/seduction27/12/24 01:36 PM
1

Once she says no and doesn't offer to reschedule, I delete the number and move on.
/r/seduction27/12/24 01:20 PM
12

Why? I get on with plenty of women and I treat them well, but friends?
/r/seduction27/12/24 01:19 PM
2

No.
/r/seduction27/12/24 01:15 PM
1

Do drinks. Not dinner. Dinner is simp shit.
/r/seduction26/12/24 07:20 PM
1

They're not scams. They work very well for me. Where else am I going to meet women?
/r/seduction26/12/24 07:18 PM
2

I love how you're being down voted even though you're correct. The apps have worked very well for me. The current dating market is crap in general. It's not really the apps.
/r/seduction26/12/24 07:18 PM
1

Dating apps work fine. They're not really that different to in person. In person is high effort for little reward. The reverse is true for apps.
/r/seduction26/12/24 07:14 PM
0

Keep simping and approaching women, bro.
/r/seduction24/12/24 06:17 PM
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I can guarantee you haven't. Your advice is horrendous and I hope men don't take your advice. I don't give a shit about your marriage either. Yes, let women approach you and use dating apps. If women like you, they will approach you. I've never approached a woman and had plenty of success. Approaching is degrading. I bet you used to do dinner dates too lmao.
/r/seduction24/12/24 02:08 PM
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Oh, okay, bro. Just harass women. That's such good advice. Women don't want unattractive men approaching them. If you need to approach, it's already game over. I bet you take girls out on dates too lmao.
/r/seduction24/12/24 01:57 PM
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Extra points don't mean shit. If you have to approach, then you've already lost. It gives the woman validation and makes her think she's above you.
/r/seduction24/12/24 01:53 PM
-3

Extra points for what? Isn't it better if men didn't approach at all?
/r/seduction24/12/24 01:20 PM
-3

Guys still do that?
/r/seduction24/12/24 09:58 AM
0

I got Tinder Gold back on a cheaper deal back in the summer. This was on CDKeys. It worked very well. If you can find it cheaper and you're good-looking/attractive then it can work.
/r/seduction24/12/24 09:57 AM
1

I always automatically assume all women find me ugly until proven otherwise.
/r/seduction20/12/24 12:49 PM
0

No it doesn't. All approaching does is how desperate and low value you are. Women don't even want to be approached.
/r/seduction19/12/24 08:52 AM
1

Just don't cold approach. It looks desperate.
/r/seduction18/12/24 02:52 PM
0

Honestly, don't overthink it. Just read the cues (her attraction levels) and act accordingly. It doesn't have to be fancy, just a quick drink or coffee. If she likes you then you don't have to overthink or put on an act. Just don't do simp shit like dinner or meal dates until you've slept with her a few times.
/r/seduction18/12/24 02:51 PM
1

Such as?
/r/seduction16/12/24 01:48 PM
1

Well, women are the seducers. They're the ones that game men.
/r/seduction13/12/24 03:27 PM
1

No. Don't do it. It signals a lack of options.
/r/seduction06/12/24 10:07 AM
1

Approaching people to be friends? Sure. Approaching women to date? No. Women don't want men to approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:39 PM
1

I was nice and polite to her. However, the way she acted (cold and one worded answers) was hugely ironic given I was much more attractive and she'd have known it. Looks aren't subjective. Most men will never have a woman consider them hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:38 PM
3

Then why have many women found me really hot? She shouldn't be so judgmental, particularly as I'm objectively better looking than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:26 PM
3

Because she needs to be realistic about her level.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:23 PM
3

Well, then she's delusional. As I was saying. Yes, women have done that before.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:12 PM
2

We didn't fuck, it was just a first date. I was on a higher level. Why does this bother you so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:30 PM
2

In terms of looks, socal status and wealth. These aren't subjective measures. Especially looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:29 PM
1

Most don't lack social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 08:38 PM
1

It's the same in person and online.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:37 PM
2

Doesn't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:35 PM
3

This.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:34 PM
17

Idk, I've even seen 3/10 women turning down decent looking to good-looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:25 PM
1

Well, women do have far more options than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:22 PM
2

Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:21 PM
1

No, they cannot. Not these days. If you're not a Chad, you're better off going for hookers. You're unlovable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:20 PM
1

Maybe. But it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:05 PM
1

Sure, whatever you say. A woman dated me for over two months. Doesn't mean she liked me or was attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:03 PM
1

Aka not attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:00 PM
2

Maybe they're a foodie call or something to do. Obviously, they weren't attractive enough to get another date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:00 PM
4

Aka, their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:57 PM
1

They don't. Women always complain about creeps hitting on them. I have lots of male friends. I have two friends with benefits (women). My male friends have been very supportive during my dad's recent cancer diagnosis. I have had women offer to be friends after we've dated for a few months, which I inevitably reject.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:57 PM
1

They don't. I have lots of male friends. I have two friends with benefits (women). My male friends have been very supportive during my dad's recent cancer diagnosis. I have had women offer to be friends after we've dated for a few months, which I inevitably reject.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:54 PM
1

But also date. Most men have extremely low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:53 PM
3

It's a first date. The expectations are too high. No spark or connection just means the guy is hideous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:51 PM
2

I was saying that I do go to boxing gyms. I also said that even at other social events and clubs, women don't want to meet men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:50 PM
2

Yep. Women don't really frequent boxing gyms and football teams. They also don't want men approaching them at gyms and social clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:48 PM
2

If a woman tells you that there was "no spark/connection," then you have no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:46 PM
2

It won't benefit you, but okay. If you're an average man, you're still going to be rejected at these places anyway. Having friends won't make you attractive. Women don't care about men's social skills by and large. It's pretty unimportant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:45 PM
2

So what advice would you give men in general? It's funny how women can lack social skills, and that's all fine and dandy, but men not having amazing skills is somehow an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:39 PM
1

Men do want you. No woman is too ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:36 PM
3

So what is the issue for most men? What is your advice for them? I've spoken to many men who don't even look at/make eye contact or even speak with women at the gym, bar, store, etc as they know it's hopeless. Even if the woman smiles at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:35 PM
3

Most men aren't attractive. You're talking about the exceptions. Men are excluded from activities because they're failures and losers. Women don't want them and society doesn't want them. What is your advice to most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:31 PM
3

Aka, the guy was unattractive. Most men are fine and don't lack social skills. If they did, then there's probably nothing that could be done. Most men are unattractive to women. That's also a fact. Studies show it. Just because you've seen a few attractive guys means absolutely nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:26 PM
0

And I always hear of women complaining about men approaching them and how it's creepy. So why would I do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:24 PM
3

Most men are not pretty attractive. That doesn't even cut it these days. Why would women complain about men's social skills? Weird. They're sent their way. Most men have no hope of ever having a woman genuinely attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:16 PM
3

It still won't make you physically or sexually attractive. Hence why PUAs and dating coaches are scammers. Why do you think so many men resort to porn and video games instead of dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:13 PM
1

Men usually resort to porn because they can't get any irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:10 PM
4

No, but more attractive people are more likely to be better received socially and have an easier time making friends. They will, therefore, get more opportunities to be sociable and work on their "social skills." As most men are undesirable, they will have fewer chances. Being sociable still doesn't make you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:09 PM
2

They're forced that way due to their own unattractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:49 PM
0

https://x.com/ChrisWillx/status/1688944613602492416 Do you agree that this is good?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:43 PM
0

Why are women fine with men approaching them? It makes no sense. It's really stupid for men to approach. Unless they're masochists off. It's honestly a real shame that men are approaching women still. Idk why it's happening. However, according to some data, fewer and fewer men are approaching women. About half of men 18-30 have NEVER approached a woman. This is brilliant. The younger generations of men are realising that there is no point to it, nothing to be gained but everything to lose. Why s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:42 PM
0

Why would they want to be accosted by a random man? Approaching women is meant to be embarrassing. So when I hear women complain that men aren't approaching them, I tell them that I'm happy to hear it. I've heard them say that on first dates, and I've said that it's a good thing. If you need to approach women, then you are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:23 PM
0

Because they don't want unattractive men approaching them. I also hear of men even avoiding all eye contact with women and not smiling back at them if they don't know them. This is wonderful news. Approaching is a terrible option and doesn't work. If you need to approach, then you're already finished. I bet you think that men should cold approach and listen to scammers. They most certainly can.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:16 PM
0

Why are they fine with it? Women on here complain about it. Why should men approach? You haven't answered. You can be thrown in prison over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:08 PM
1

If you say so. Men shouldn't approach women either way. It's embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:06 PM
1

Men shouldn't approach women. Women don't want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:05 PM
1

They're fine with being approached, which is why it's a good thing that they're complaining that men don't approach them. It would be a great thing if men never approached women. It's a shame that there are still men doing it, but the more men we can convince not to, the better. Agree? Why would I need an excuse? Approaching women is absolutely embarrassing and pointless. Why should I be a dance monkey?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:03 PM
0

They're not. It's a good thing that fewer and fewer men are approaching. Long may it continue. When I hear women complain about men not approaching, it makes me very happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:51 PM
2

It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:49 PM
0

I've done it before where I've slept with or tried to sleep with women way below my level as I wanted to bust a nut. Sometimes, even then, they acted arrogant and uninterested. It's ridiculous, but it's men's fault really.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:54 PM
8

Tbf most men have incredibly low standards for women's looks. That's why so many average and below women are arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:38 PM
1

Many men are unattractive to all women. If, for instance, you go on a date with a woman who then precedes to tell you that there was "no spark /connection", then you're pretty universally unattractive. These days, women have very unrealistic standards for men. What you say might be true, but most men can't even get their foot/cock in the door to showcase their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:34 PM
3

Nothing, but it just shows how most men have no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:31 PM
0

If you're ugly, it's always a bad approach. Confidence doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:09 PM
0

Women are still extremely picky irl and only really go by looks. Do you have examples of how it's different? If one woman finds you unattractive irl, then all do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:57 PM
2

This is very grim reading as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:20 PM
4

So what is your advice to most men? They're not good-looking enough for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:17 PM
-4

Women can't love non-Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:15 PM
1

But it's a good thing that men aren't approaching women. This is what women asked for. Why should you approach women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:13 PM
3

Men are influenced by looks, but they have very low standards for women's looks (and in general). This still doesn't explain why the fuck you'd want a woman who finds you average looking to message you? Women cannot love non-Chads. He has to satisfy her at all times (whilst she cheats on him due to not being attracted to him). Why would you want a relationship as a non-Chad? It sounds awful. Even mid women get inundated with men on apps (and ugly women too). Their standards are just usually astr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:12 PM
2

Isn't it a good thing if men aren't approaching them? Different how? What examples do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 11:30 AM
5

But women on here always complain about men approaching them. I have had women complain to me that men never approach them. This does make me happy. Different in person how? Women are much more guilty of this tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 11:24 AM
4

They're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 11:22 AM
3

Interesting. Do most women not want to meet men at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 11:05 AM
0

That's through choice. 99% of the time it isn't for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:59 AM
8

Because most men aren't physically attractive enough, quite frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:54 AM
7

Lol this article is nonsense. Women swipe left on the majority of men. They're far more picky when it comes to looks than men will ever be. Sending a message to a man means absolutely fuck all. Why would I, as a man, want a woman messaging me who views me as average looking or below? The fact that your article is trying to gaslight men is disgusting. https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/the-math-behind-dating-apps-women-like-only-4-out-of-100-profiles-men-more-likel…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:53 AM
1

Fair enough, but even now you're seeing older women with insane standards for relationships due to th apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:13 AM
1

Paying for it. Where would they have options? Most struggle to get anything these days. Look at the dating app data.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:59 AM
1

As women have more value in a dating sense in 99% of cases, she will have the power to decide how far it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 11:23 PM
1

Not these days. Often, women will just go into the next guy. As most men have no options and most want relationships, they'll become clingy to whatever girl shows them interest. On the bizarre occasion that the average man has sex, he's going to take what he can get. Women just control both venues.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:10 PM
2

For looks, height and income? Extremely high standards. For other things? Probably not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:54 PM
1

Come on, bro. That's cap.
/r/seduction29/11/24 03:17 PM
2

Women are the prize, generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:05 PM
2

Because most men have no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:34 PM
2

And most men still weren't being chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:02 PM
1

Women control both in fairness. Very few men control access to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:55 AM
2

So choose between nothing and their right hand? Women have access to dating apps and social media now. They're the choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 06:24 AM
2

And most men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 11:33 PM
3

Women are the choosers. They don't want men to approach them. Men swipe right on most women yet most of then always get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:32 PM
3

Game isn't a thing. It's for scammers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:37 PM
1

I have ASD despite being physically attractive as a man. Women sometimes tell me that I do not have a connection following first dates. Is that what is meant?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:56 PM
9

If you don't meet her physical standards, then social skills are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:52 PM
3

Because looks are extremely important for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:52 PM
6

If you're ugly, no amount of social skills can overcome it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:51 PM
2

Why would she feel the need to say it? Most men aren't valuable in the eyes of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:57 PM
2

Why is he valuable? How do you know he will find someone? I remember years ago this girl messaged me with this ridiculous message saying, "I just know you'll find someone who is going to be perfect for your." How would she know?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:49 PM
1

So if a man is rejected, what should he do in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:35 PM
3

It does. If they were wonderful, why did you reject them? Clearly they weren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:29 PM
1

Many men give up entirely if they are rejected following a first . It's brutal for them. If you are rejected, then you are deemed unworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:25 PM
2

They do have high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:18 PM
3

Delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:17 PM
2

I bet you believe in "game".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:17 PM
5

The price of pussy keeps rising. Most men struggle to get anything. How the fuck can you tell the average guy to "have an abundance mindset, bro" when he's got zero options?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:16 PM
2

Well, sure. But only after they've been deemed worthy to get their foot in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:15 PM
5

Hahaha what a load of gibberish. If you're undesirable, then listing your wants won't magically make you attractive to women. It will just make you delusional. A short, ugly, fat guy can list all of his wants and consider himself the prize. Nobody is going to view him that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:15 PM
3

Most men don't have the luxury of choosing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:09 PM
1

Well, often, you hear dating roaches saying that men should adopt an "abundance mindset" in order to be more attractive and successful in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:08 PM
2

Women generally now don't need men. They can have their female friends for their emotional intimacy. They can also gain sex easily with attractive men for their physical needs. They also make their own money as well. So a male partner isn't really a necessity, just a bonus. I am a man, but it's something I've realised.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:07 PM
3

Do you think that an "abundance mindset" for men is good?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:03 PM
2

Is an "abundance mindset" good for men in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:02 PM
4

Most men have incredibly low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:57 PM
1

Why would you want a poly woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:53 PM
1

They're just as picky in person tbh. Plus, they don't want most men approaching them. If they're not attracted to you, then they may humour you with conversation, but nothing will come of it. But it does make me laugh when women complain that men no longer approach them.
/r/seduction25/11/24 10:12 PM
1

I go off data. Women find most men unattractive. So what is your solution to the average guy? Be a dance monkey and try to convince women to like you via so-called "game"? Pay for it? Paying some scammer PUA? It's just funny how I actually got results once I became good-looking.
/r/seduction25/11/24 01:28 PM
0

You're not average looking then, as women don't want average men. I think you're lying about your friend. He's either paying for it or he doesn't exist. I believe in reality. If one woman rejects you then none want you. You claim that women prefer good-looking guys for long-term and not so good-looking guys for shirt term? That's insane. What is your advice to most men, then? What should they do? Women are far more picky than men.
/r/seduction25/11/24 12:49 PM
0

Nah, a woman has to be sexually attracted to you (looks) to fuck you, other than you paying for it. Game doesn't exist. If she's not attracted to you, then nothing can happen.
/r/seduction25/11/24 12:40 PM
1

Women want to meet men irl?
/r/seduction25/11/24 10:55 AM
2

Women wouldn't sleep with non-good looking men, particularly when they have endless options. If anything, they want the good-looking ones for short and not so attractive ones for long because they want the power in the relationship.
/r/seduction25/11/24 10:53 AM
1

I'm in a similar position. You might be putting out too many fuckboy vibes. That could be part of it.
/r/seduction25/11/24 10:41 AM
2

Yep, women hate most men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 08:51 AM
1

Yet what does that normal feminism say?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 11:49 PM
1

Do you think that feminism teaching women to hate men, that men/masculinity is toxic and that men are the enemy is good for men's mental health?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 11:14 PM
1

Just so you know, you and your ideology are one of the factors killing men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 11:12 PM
1

Well keep on deluding yourself that your silly feminism can help men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:41 PM
1

But the average man has no women attracted to him. So ofc he would be ecstatic to have some attention. Women just want the top men and will not settle unless under extreme cases. We're seeing this now. Women don't date down. Most men have no value in the market. There's your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:43 PM
1

Men have extremely low standards for women's looks. You talk as if most men can afford to be picky. Ugly women have insane value in today's dating market. They don't want their male equivalent. They reject them and better looking guys from apps and on first dates. It's just the modern market. It's insane. Most men have no value in today's market.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:30 PM
1

Yet, look at how picky women are. Where exactly am I wrong in what I said? Why would a woman want ab average guy when she can get countless better guys? So if you're rejected by a woman, why shouldn't you give up hope? I know one guy who took his own life after being told that he had no connection following a first date. Did he have hope?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:27 PM
1

Is he rich? Does he fund her "lifestyle"? I'd imagine she's cheating on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:18 PM
1

If I were average looking, I'd never try with women as it would be a guaranteed rejection. Women want perfection. Looks aren't subjective. If you're rejected by one woman, then none want you. Ugly to one, ugly to all. The fact that you think looks are subjective just tells me you're delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:16 PM
1

Oh, God. What a hilariously patronising load of nonsense. We don't want your help. Modern feminism is harmful to men. Men aren't as pathetic and weak as you seem to be implying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:54 PM
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You are not average looking if you've had success on dating apps. Women do not want average men. I can agree that they're not all swiping right on the same men, just the average woman swipes left on 95% of men. However, looks overall are pretty objective. A guy who looks like Chris Hemsworth or Henry Cavill isn't going to be successful all of the time, but he's going to have an astronomically better time than someone who looked like Nigel Farage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:50 PM
1

What do you think the experience is like for men on apps? Do you deny that women are extremely picky? https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/the-math-behind-dating-apps-women-like-only-4-out-of-100-profiles-men-more-likely-to-swipe-right/amp_articleshow/75736043.cms
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:04 PM
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https://www.enterpriseappstoday.com/stats/tinder-statistics.html Do you not think it's a good thing if more men give up?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:05 PM
1

I find it easy, but I get burnout as well. I'll jump on the apps again in a few months, but I have two FBs, which is good for now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 10:12 AM
1

I don't really pity that guy, as there should be obvious signs she's not into him but he's choosing to overlook it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 10:03 AM
2

Wrong. Even ugly women get countless attention on apps. They often just go for the most attractive men and wonder why they don't get anything. Most men on apps don't get anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:58 AM
3

Ironically, women are far pickier when it comes to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:55 AM
1

Paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:52 AM
1

I mean, many women do have too high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:51 AM
2

Not just attractive girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:49 AM
1

Dating app stats show it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:48 AM
1

So I'm meant to gaslight them? They were literally rejected. What does that say?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:35 PM
1

They already admit that they are. Who am I to tell them that they're not when the proof is in the pudding?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:19 PM
1

They need to know the truth that they are unlovable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:07 PM
1

Or they know that it's a fruitless endeavour with little reward?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:37 PM
1

But they were rejected because they're ugly. They are unlovable. Many men I know have never asked a woman out or even approached one as they know they won't be interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:34 PM
1

They should give up. There is no hope. If a guy is rejected or told that the woman didn't feel the spark or connection following a date, why shouldn't he?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:50 PM
1

It is a guaranteed rejection. If one woman doesn't want you, then none do. I find these situations you've listed to be incredibly hard to believe. Either that or they're extreme outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:27 PM
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These are insane assertions you're making. If you're an ugly guy, no woman would want you. Unless you pay for it, ofc. I know one guy who looks a bit like Nigel Farage. Everyone mocks him for his looks and tells him he's unlovable. No women want him. It's not fair, but it's life. Do you genuinely believe that "game" works?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:02 PM
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You're the one claiming that somehow you can overcome being ugly by having stupid "charisma" and a "good attitude." If you're an ugly guy, then you're pretty much screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:54 PM
1

They need to be physically and sexually attracted to them. There's a reason game isn't a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:51 PM
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Women don't want ugly men unless they're using them. I simply don't believe you unless you're in some parallel universe. Sexual inflation is a real thing. Charisma and a positive attitude don't mean shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:49 PM
1

More than you by the sounds of it. Or you're just lying or overrating the woman and underrating the man. Women are extremely picky with looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:35 PM
1

I highly doubt it. It's extremely unusual to see an attractive woman with an unattractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:30 PM
1

No woman wants them. They're going for women on their level and below. It's called sexual inflation/hypergamy. If one woman doesn't want you, then no woman wants you. So if that model doesn't want you, then neither will another woman. No, personality doesn't matter if you're ugly. They will never find you sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 02:07 PM
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Personality doesn't matter. What do you mean trying to yolk with the wrong egg? Many men struggle because nobody wants them and they're unattractive to all women. It's out of their control. Women have access to online dating and social media now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:56 PM
1

"People don't change. They just become who they really are."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 12:20 PM
1

That's happened to me a few times. We've dated/slept together for a few months where they were highly into me at the start, but then realised that I probably wasn't good longterm material for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 12:17 PM
1

Without the looks to get the foot in the door, personality won't even be considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 12:13 PM
1

But average men do go for average women. Sexual inflation makes it so that average women no longer desire average men. Hypergamy. Average women get loads of attention, just not usually from men that they desire. Which men claim to be attractive even when they're not? The average man ISN'T attractive to women. Nobody said that he is. The average woman has infinite more value than him. Women don't want average. Stats prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:53 AM
1

40 likes is still more than the vast majority of men (no woman only receives 40 likes). Why does the location of the date matter? I don't care how attractive they are, I'll take them to the same place (drinks or coffee). 50/50? They don't need to go 50/50. They want equality. Most men are simps and have to pay, no matter how attractive they are. Where are you getting the idea that men don't know where they stand? They will get a reality check soon enough if they don't. It's usually women who thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:46 AM
1

She would only get 40 matches on a dating app due to her rejecting 95% of men. Men on apps have even lower standards and all women get hundreds of likes. Bad example.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:35 AM
1

Because they told me that I don't have a connection. Another said that she felt a friendly vibe. These were them telling me I should die.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:39 PM
1

Where would these men get inflated egos from? Most have no options. They just find them attractive. How do you know these men are shooting out of their league? They're also shooting below their leagues often, too. Particularly on apps. Where on earth did you get the idea that most men think they're in the most attractive range?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:00 PM
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Average men don't have any options. Average women don't want them, and ugly women don't want them. Men like those models, but they still want all types of women. The average woman has an insane amount of options, and her ego is inflated due to it. That's part of the reason for it. Men THINK that they will have fewer options due to being average, but the more men think this way, the more options she will have. Juggernaut theory. Hypergamy is real for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:59 PM
1

I also told her I had a gf the whole time and she flipped out.
/r/seduction21/11/24 04:48 PM
1

This girl I was smashing/dating a few months said that she can't see it being more than friendship and I said I saw no benefit to being friends with her. Too harsh?
/r/seduction21/11/24 04:42 PM
2

Coffee, walk, or quick drink. Or just preferably go to hers or yours.
/r/seduction21/11/24 04:18 PM
1

Struggle more to get into relationships? Nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:18 PM
1

She doesn't even have to be attractive. Just being a woman is more than enough in many cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:15 PM
1

Men are happy with average women. They get insane amounts of likes on dating apps and social media. In some cases they even get more attention than very attractive women as men think that they're easier. I've even seen average and below average women rejecting good-looking men. It's average men who have no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:51 AM
1

Most men these days can't get fulfilling relationships due to online dating and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:35 AM
1

Why isn't dating now easy for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:35 AM
1

Where are men advantaged exactly? Other than very attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:19 AM
1

Average women don't want average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:15 AM
1

Doesn't work these days. Average and below average women have access to online dating and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:14 AM
1

If one person doesn't want you, then nobody wants you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:12 AM
1

Women very rarely dated down. If she's better looking than you, then you're pretty much guaranteed to get rejected. Women are hypergamous don't forget. Men usually always date down, particularly in online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:10 AM
1

Men often date way down on dating apps. I've even seen women who were several points below the guy rejecting him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:42 AM
1

But no connection just means that they find you hideous and think you will never find anyone (in their opinion).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:36 AM
1

Then why did some say that there was no connection?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:25 AM
1

Well, for context, I got thousands of likes and matches in the summer on Tinder and Hinge, but a woman told me that there was no connection after a first date so I kind of gave up after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:20 AM
1

Idk man, if I'm rejected by one woman, then I come to the conclusion that none want me and never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:06 AM
1

Why would you want someone who found you unattractive messaging you? That's insane. Talk about time wasting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:59 AM
1

Which means absolutely nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:58 AM
2

Why would you want someone attracted to your "behaviour"? They need to find you physically attractive for anything to happen. That's what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:52 AM
1

They're probably not even attractive to their gf. Most men will never have a woman genuinely attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:37 AM
2

Well, looks are pretty objective. I was rejected before by a woman and I completely gave up as I realised I was unattractive to all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:27 AM
4

How is it trolling? If one woman doesn't want you, why would another one want you? If you're rejected, then you're unattractive and unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:22 AM
4

Wrong. If one woman finds you unattractive, then all women do. That is why I tell men who have been rejected to give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 08:52 AM
5

If the ratio was equal then it would be the same. Men are just desperate in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:01 AM
4

We won't. We're not women. This will never happen as men are in direct competition with each other for access to sex and resources. If a man compliments me it means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:00 AM
6

But men are in competition with each other. They won't do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:50 PM
2

Men won't do this. Why would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 10:56 PM
4

Be honest; do you think men have it easy on apps and get countless matches? The apps show that most men struggle to get anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 10:55 PM
5

Most men on apps aren't getting dates or relationships. If they do get a date, then they'd probably be unsuccessful on the date. Women don't want men approaching them in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 10:20 PM
4

And the rest of those men, how many of them even get anything? Even on dates, women can have extremely high standards and claim that there was "no connection." If you're told that, then there's no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:24 PM
2

Probably just pushed him over the edge. Wasn't the only reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:08 PM
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I don't know, but I look at the stats to show that women are extremely picky on apps and only going after a small percentage of men. If you're an average man, you have no hope on apps. You trying to gaslight and act as if it's easy for men doesn't cut it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:05 PM
3

That's why you don't get married or put too much stock into a woman as they're going to leave you no matter what. I haven't asked a woman out in person in 12 years as I got rejected and realised that no woman in the world wanted me, for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:03 PM
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Well, it's pretty objective that most men don't get anything. I'm not sure what your point even is. That daring apps are east for men and they all get thousands of matches?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:52 PM
7

Women are remarkably picky in all areas. They just have different things they're willing to compromise on depending on the circumstances (opportunistically).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:50 PM
0

Most women are somewhat attractive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:48 PM
2

Do women like men other than what they can provide?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:44 PM
8

Pretty much. People here will try to gaslight, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:43 PM
8

Yet women only swipe right on 5% of men and most men don't get anything on apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:41 PM
2

I know one guy who took his life because he was told that he didn't have a connection following a first date. It's brutal for most guys. He just figured he was unlovable, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:41 PM
9

So all men are getting thousands of matches and slaying every night on apps? Most men get success? The objective truth is that most men struggle to get anything on apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:39 PM
7

My money is my money. It wouldn't be hers. Looks aren't subjective. If a woman finds you unattractive, then you're just ugly. Give up. Look around at what? These extreme examples you list are simply outliers. You don't know what their relationship is like and you don't even know if they're together. Women want perfection.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:38 PM
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I'm objectively right, though. Women only swipe right on 5% of men. Do you deny that most men struggle on apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:36 PM
7

Women only want Chads on apps. Most men on apps don't get anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:33 PM
5

That 6 ironically will often have insane standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:32 PM
7

Looks do matter if you want her actually attracted to you. Money can only buy you affection. It’s not actual attraction. I'd never use my money to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:27 PM
2

It's true. Many guys I know were rejected by a woman following a first date and then gave up. They had no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:25 PM
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If you're unattractive to one woman, you're unattractive to all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:19 PM
24

That is true. Women also don't need a husband or boyfriend anymore. They can make their own money, have emotional intimacy with female friends and have hookups with attractive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:12 PM
1

Women don't really need men anymore and now are only going after the most attractive men. They have money through jobs, emotional intimacy from friends and can get sex whenever they want from attractive guys. A husband or boyfriend is no longer necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:04 PM
1

How would you define effort?
/r/seduction20/11/24 12:22 PM
1

No dinner before sex.
/r/seduction20/11/24 12:21 PM
1

Then she's chasing you if she's doing that. Why would I want to approach? There's no benefit to it, and if she were attracted, she would come to me. If you need to approach, then you're unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:46 PM
1

Why are you advocating for wasting your time on women who aren't attracted? Why don't you want women attracted to you? If you need to chase or go on dates, then she's not really attracted to you. I guess guys need to simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:26 PM
1

Because I want someone who is actually attracted to me. Pretty simple. If I have to chase, then she has no attraction to me. Why are you advocating wasting my time? You clearly haven't had women attracted to you. Otherwise, you would know that you wouldn't need to do this foolishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:15 PM
1

Why would you chase? Be honest now. If I have to chase, then I move on as she's not attracted to me. Chasing is always embarrassing. They can tell you have no other options, and you're desperate. If they like you, then you don't have to chase. I bet you go on dinner dates too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:07 PM
1

Men aren't picky enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:59 PM
0

Most dead bedrooms are initiated by women due to men's far higher sex drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:43 PM
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"Confidence and a good personality" won't make her attracted to you. Just because you see a man with a woman, it doesn't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:42 PM
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If a woman likes you, you don't need to pursue. Chasing is embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:30 PM
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Why would I vote? Politicians are all liars. Democrats hate men. It's good that they rejected their appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:20 PM
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And what exactly would they have done? The Democrats failed to appeal to men, which is brilliant. Men rejected it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:16 PM
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If you need to chase, then she's not attracted. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:11 PM
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Things like homelessness, suicide, loneliness and mental health which many men struggle with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:10 PM
1

Wouldn't you rather put in less effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:44 AM
1

So what group does care?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:53 AM
0

I'm not wrong, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 12:11 AM
6

It's easier in real life, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:58 AM
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Men generally have very low standards for women's looks anyway. Women need to find you physically attractive for anything to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:52 AM
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I have two FWBs, so pretty regularly and I had two gfs over the summer but that ended. I assume all women find me ugly until proven otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:38 PM
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Use online then. Cold approach is stupid. You're clearly not attractive then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:31 PM
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Oh, okay. Keep giving those women validation by approaching them. You're a dance monkey for their entertainment. If you were attractive, they'd approach you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:22 PM
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It's literally from the source... What even is your argument? That the average man does well on Tinder and women aren't super selective?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:21 PM
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Approaching is simping. If you were attractive you wouldn't need to approach. You're just giving her validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:16 PM
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https://www.crossrivertherapy.com/research/tinder-statistics "For men on Tinder, the average match rate stands at a meager 0.6%, equating to one match for every 140 swipes."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:15 PM
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*need to. If you need to simp, then you are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:10 PM
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Match rate. What exactly is your argument? That men have hope? What a horrible outlook. Most men should give up. It would be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:09 PM
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No group does care about men, only women. Just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:04 PM
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If you merd to approach, then you're done.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:03 PM
1

Well no group really advocates for men's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 06:37 PM
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He's probably paying for it in many cases. Or just using him. A woman in a relationship with you doesn't mean shit. If one woman rejects you, then all find you unattractive. A friend of mine literally went on a date with a woman who told him that he had no connection. He gave up after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 06:25 PM
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Most men will never have a woman genuinely attracted to them. Look at dating app data. Most men get no matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 06:18 PM
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They're not, though. Women are the choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 05:34 PM
5

I am very happy when women say they're no longer being approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:01 PM
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If you're rejected by one woman, then no woman wants you. Most men have no women attracted to them. What do you mean they don't know how to attract women? You're either attractive or you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:00 PM
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Women swipe left on 95% of men on Tinder. https://www.enterpriseappstoday.com/stats/tinder-statistics.html
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 03:58 PM
5

Nope. Average. Dating app stats show it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 03:24 PM
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Average guys don't do fine anywhere. They are unlovable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:32 PM
5

If you need to approach, then you have already lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:27 PM
9

It still won't make her attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:22 PM
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Extremely few men can afford to be picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:19 PM
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Men are rarely the "pickers." When do women ever tell men to pick better? It's generally the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:12 PM
2

It is very similar to me (31M and 13 in the year). All barring one from online. I'm taking a break from the apps again. I'm going to try the bars and clubs, but I'm pretty sure I'll be okay as women often approach me there. I've also got two FBs at the minute so I'm pretty content.
/r/seduction11/11/24 10:55 AM
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Best way to get out of the friendzone: Leave.
/r/seduction11/11/24 10:40 AM
1

Sounds horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:58 AM
1

Why on earth would you want to convince someone to be attracted to you? That sounds like a horrible relationship. I've never once had to "convince" a woman to find me attractive. She either did or she didn't. I just had to act accordingly. Most men are also below average in the eyes of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 06:08 PM
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If you have to convince her, you've already lost. I've even seen 3/4 women rejecting 7+ men following first dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 08:35 AM
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But most men don't. Even a 4 woman these days doesn't want a 4 man. Particularly with online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:17 PM
1

And that shows how picky women are in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:28 PM
1

Well, that's impossible as I'm straight. Are you suggesting that most women view most men as straight men view other men? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:13 PM
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They might not want to, but they certainly have the power in choosing in both the long and short terms. Most men have no power.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 11:09 AM
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But women always have access to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:19 AM
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Nah, most men aren't selective at all when it comes to relationships. If they have no options, how can they afford to be picky?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:04 AM
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They have casual sex with a small percentage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:59 AM
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I mean, I really can't see men doing this. They're too self-interested when it comes to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:52 AM
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Yeah, that's a brutal rejection. I know how you feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:42 AM
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Nonsense. Dating app data says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:23 PM
1

Are they wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:14 PM
2

Yeah, definite lesson learned.
/r/seduction24/10/24 08:30 PM
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Thanks, man. I'll be good. Sometimes, these things are for the best and can be a blessing.
/r/seduction15/10/24 06:42 PM
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Tbh, I probably am. I do like variety, but I also like closeness and familiarity as well. I've been on many dates/dated many women, and often, it just felt meaningless and repetitive. This one I spoke of it just seemed to all click from the first date (physically attractive, highly attracted to me, conversations flowed well, excited to see her, etc.), so it stung quite a bit when it broke off after so much promise. It made me realise that maybe I do like that closeness. Even though it was only t…
/r/seduction15/10/24 06:41 PM
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Yeah, I've had to learn from my mistakes.
/r/seduction15/10/24 06:29 PM
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Just over two months lmao. We went on a day trip to the beach and she was all over me and then went back to hers at the end. She then messaged me two days later to say that she thinks we're looking for different things in a relationship. Maybe my performance wasn't that good time. Idk. But it felt like a wasted two months.
/r/seduction15/10/24 04:13 PM
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Yeah, it never makes you look good. It's worse when you had a good connection/vibe with the girl and had good memories. It's always best to take a step back and look at it objectively. Getting angry or butthurt just makes her think she made the right choice.
/r/seduction15/10/24 04:03 PM
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The ironic thing is that I've slept with four other women since her, but I think the way it ended coupled with me catching feelings just mentally drained me. I've got a FWB atm who comes over every week or so, which helps a lot. I just think taking a bit of time off the apps and other things will help clear my mind.
/r/seduction15/10/24 04:01 PM
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Yeah, I know. That was a massive red flag.
/r/seduction15/10/24 03:57 PM
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Dating apps and social media.
/r/seduction15/10/24 02:15 PM
1

I had that happen to me in the summer where she said we shouldn't rush it. It's better that she is the one to bring it up.
/r/seduction15/10/24 02:15 PM
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I agree. She should be doing it.
/r/seduction15/10/24 02:13 PM
1

Yeah, that happened to me. After two months, she said that we shouldn't rush into a relationship.
/r/seduction15/10/24 02:08 PM
2

I dated a girl for over two months and she said that we shouldn't rush into a relationship. Even though we were going bareback.
/r/seduction15/10/24 02:07 PM
3

I had a situationship in the summer with this very attractive girl. After two months of dating, I asked her to be my gf (rookie error), to which she replied that we should take it slow first. It left me with all sorts of insecurities, and I should have left it there when she said that.
/r/seduction15/10/24 02:05 PM
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I found this out to my detriment this summer. I had this girl who was very attractive, very attracted to me, always wanting to meet and we just had great chemistry together. Unfortunately, my insecurities started to shift through and so I started thinking she'd lose interest at any moment. I acted needy and overthinking everything, and one time, when something came up but offered to reschedule, I thought she was playing games, so I got annoyed. When she eventually broke things off, I said someth…
/r/seduction15/10/24 01:59 PM
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