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Rent a one bedroom apartment in what city? What type of job? You do realize housing is becoming incredibly expensive right? Or do you just not care? You must live in a fantasy world
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:06 AM
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I mean sheesh the guy is 5’1 can you really blame him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:37 AM
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Welp, I certainly wish a man’s sex life was weighed a bit more heavily for some women. Because I do feel that that would filter out a bunch of men who otherwise would be no good for them. But that’s just my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:15 AM
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Well your roomate clearly didn’t think he was a bad guy, since she had sex with him and all. Seems like women need to do a better job of keeping their personality standards up and stop sleeping with men like this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:48 AM
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Because by and large the majority of women do not care if the men they date are whores as long as it doesn’t embarrass them. Y’all have woefully low standards in the areas that actually matter for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:40 AM
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She can make those men spend money on her though. Plenty of men have gone broke trying to keep up with a woman’s materialistic wants
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:39 AM
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Because maybe he wanted to endear himself to her and show off his personality to have a better chance of her liking him??? For how much you guys claim personality matters you sure do pigeon-hole the areas in which a man can show that personality off. You don’t even know their dynamic enough to say the shit you’re saying. You sound unhinged. Apparently men can’t want more from their woman friends anymore lol. I forgot he’s supposed to swipe right on her first before it’s socially acceptable for h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:03 PM
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You’re making shit up lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:17 PM
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Are you shaming him for not accepting less than what he wanted? What’s your angle here?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:17 PM
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Yet American society has been steadily getting more conservative, more restrictive and more hierarchical over the past decade. “Muh commieeesssss!!111!1111” is about the most braindead argument you could make on a subject like this. You made no mention of late stage capitalism’s (y’know, the current system WE LIVE IN) role in any of this. The gamification of dating through dating apps owned by megacorps. The dystopian world we currently live in with massive income inequality. The fact the only v…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:02 PM
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You make a great point, women on dating apps are absolutely inundated with choices. Making it impossible for them to actually give a good portion of men a shot at dating them. That isn’t a moral failing of women, it’s just the nature of the shitty dating apps web3.0 has created
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:51 PM
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As much as I hate the manosphere they’re filling a void that nobody else will. All other dating advice spheres are woefully lacking in substance
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:47 PM
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It can show flattering face structures that were not apparent due to fat when the person was heavier
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:39 PM
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No you NEED the first, primarily, and then the second. It’s in a sequential order, if you do not have that order you will not succeed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:37 PM
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Thanks for answering! I agree, standards are only unrealistic if you cannot uphold them yourself. Such as women wanting a man that makes six figures when they themselves do not. Or men expecting virgins. Or women who are no where near six feet wanting only men who are six feet. Wholly unrealistic and unreasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:35 PM
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Thanks for answering! I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:31 PM
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I asked you a question and you completely dodged it lmao. Of course nobody here was talking specifically about fat people. The conversation was about unrealistic standards. I asked you if those standards were unrealistic and you did some weird snarky shit. Are you dense? Or can you answer a simple question?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:28 PM
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Literally this, the vast majority of them have a type that’s in line with most other women. The only difference is superficial aesthetic differences and hobbys between the men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:26 PM
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But the whole “you guys’ personality is incompatible” take doesn’t make sense if the guy gets rejected the second he opens his mouth, or if she doesn’t swipe right on his profile. It only makes sense if they’ve gotten to know each other for a decent amount of time and make in informed decision about the person. Anything other than that was a rejection of a superficial basis. Which is the majority of rejections. Which also lends credence to the idea personality doesn’t matter that much unless the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:25 PM
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Is it “unrealistic” to ask that the woman you date isn’t over a certain weight range? Or doesn’t have a certain body type that is unattractive to you past a certain build up of subcutaneous fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:18 PM
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Why do you care how high schoolers are doing when you’re no longer in that environment. Seems a bit strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:14 PM
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In their twisted worldview it is, however, there are tons of nuances that they don’t account for/don’t care about
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:56 PM
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Mfs are so shitty bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:48 PM
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It’s alpha from trp standpoint. Had sex with no commitment/investment = alpha. Even if she wanted nothing to do with you after the act and actively regretted it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:45 PM
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Still waiting for your height.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:44 PM
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I see toxic positivity is on the menu today, a good portion of those people who “find someone” won’t even be with that person in five years. I reiterate, there is not, in fact, someone for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:56 AM
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There is not, in fact, someone for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:52 AM
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On one end I agree with most of your sentiment. The main area I disagree with is the notion that online dating hasn’t changed dating too much. It absolutely has, it’s gameified it and commodified it to the point where it’s too easy. Atleast with “meeting Chads in the club” they have to actually dress nice and already like night life in general. But now literally any woman can find a model-tier man by just swiping, whether that be when they’re bored in bed, taking a shit, walking their dog, you n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:51 AM
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Y’all really don’t need that much help when it comes to attracting men. What y’all need help with is differentiating men who are no good for you from men who want to build something with you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:49 PM
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If you were a man, truly believing this nonsense, you would never get a woman. Unless you just happened to be good-looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:46 PM
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It is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:56 PM
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But if she’s already hit Tyler’s line after multiple break ups it can be assumed that Tyler would be there in the picture if a breakup were to ever happen again. Personally that would be a turn off
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:51 PM
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They’re probably not as fit or attractive as they think, in terms of what society deems attractive They probably don’t fit the mold of what’s attractive in media and thusly don’t get as much success as they’d like. Men with non-eurocentric features, short men, balding men the list goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:45 PM
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But that “basic level” can be a tall order, literally and figuratively, for a lot of women. Each woman is different but physical standards overall have increased. Social media and traditional media have inundated us with people who live perfectly manicured lives and who look a lot better than the average person. Something something unrealistic standards, which affect both men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:42 PM
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Niche game works perfectly in college
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:40 PM
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It also just so happens that attractive people on average have better social skills simply based on the fact they had more positive social interactions in their formative years. And attractive people are seen as more successful by other people regardless of the realities, because they are attractive. So I personally do not think it is a feasible option to tell men who are assumably unattractive or social outcasts that they should work on their social skills first. It would be far better, from a …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:01 PM
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I don’t think you understand just how anxiety inducing it is to approavh a random stranger and strike up a convo in order to eventually date them. The vast majority of human beings do not have it in them to do that. It takes years of constant exposure therapy, or outright sociopathy, in order to feel at ease shooting your shot at random women in public. It’s simply not a viable option for most men, and the constant rejection will grind down even the most self-assured man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:56 PM
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Firstly, you’re grossly overestimating how much social skills tie into attraction. Social skills in it of themselves do not get dates. There are tons of men who are absolutely wonderful to speak with, but can’t get a date to save their lives. Lack of social skills is a huge detriment, but exceptional social skills won’t change all that much in your dating life unless you leverage them to be successful in other areas of life first. Second, if she doesn’t find you attractive to begin with, there’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:49 PM
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No, you haven’t been rejected outright because you’re a woman. End of discussion. Men are whores and more than likely you approaching that man is the easiest date he’s ever gotten in his life. Who wouldn’t say yes to that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:40 PM
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Okay but a UK 10 is like a 4 in california lets be real😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:57 AM
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You’re also more likely to project happiness onto attractive people simply by the virtue of them being attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:56 AM
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Crazy innit? This concept is taboo asf to talk about in normal everyday life
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:55 AM
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Both men and women put a lot of emphasis on how much pussy a man gets correlating to his value as a human being. It’s not hard to understand why some men would develop a complex where sex is seen as a conquest that validates their existence
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:42 AM
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Hell nah, let her know her ass stink lmaoo. That’s disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:51 PM
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It’s more society than biology. Plenty of women date men who make less than them. And they’re happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:47 PM
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It being “atypical” is not enough to completely discount it and push it to the side. It might not be very important to you, or a reason for you to care, but it happens, and men experience it. I think it should be taken more seriously than it is. This isn’t a woman bad post, this is just a post bringing awareness to it. More men should be open to the thought they’re being settled for, and know their worth. Just like women should be open to the thought their boyfriends are simply tolerating them f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:10 PM
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What constitutes an “atypical man”? Am I an atypical man? What makes me so? I have a gf, a vibrant social circle, and am currently in college pursuing a degree. I’m sorry you think every man that says anything that can be construed as negative towards women is a basement dweller. Normal regular guys have legitimate grievances with societal standards regarding men. I’m not gonna pretend like they don’t exist. I’m not gonna toxic positivity my way into delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:37 PM
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Certainly, I never claimed to align with the majority of rp beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:35 PM
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They’re a fringe disgraced subreddit with views of reality that are demonstrably extreme
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:33 PM
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why would they have lesser egos than the women they sleep with? I don’t know why you’re asking me that question lol. If anything I believe the men that get the most women have astronomically high egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:32 PM
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If multiple other men’s experiences have directly aligned with my own personal experiences over the years I’ll bet the house this is a common problem a lot of men have experienced. I believe women when they talk about all the shitty men they have to date
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:30 PM
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Aren’t you attractive I’m somewhat attractive. But definitely not a someone somebody would say is ideal. I workout and keep myself in good shape and groom. But I don’t have any features that stand out. The hottest guys aren’t destined to sleep around? That’s definitely true. But a good portion of men are whores lol. And when a guy knows he’s good looking, he’ll be hard pressed to just wanna settle down with one girl u less he really falls in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:17 PM
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I’m not really sure. But I have had girlfriends in the past hop on a stereotypically attractive man weeks after we broke up and so have my other friends. I’ve had women tell me “do you know how may men want me” and such before as well. It’s not hard to believe that a woman that finds it hard to find commitment from the men they find ideally physically appealing would settle in terms of looks for a man who’s willing to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:47 PM
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A common enough expectation that more young men today than ever are taking steroids in order to fit societal expectations surround male bodies. A common enough expectation that men break their legs in order to grow a few inches, or where high enhancing insoles. A common enough expectation that male sexlessness has risen incredibly while the majority of the young male population remains unchanged. I know plenty of my buddies that have legit eating disorders because they know they won’t find a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:39 PM
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But the difference is, in real life, fat women, single mothers, and other women that random men on the internet insult, don’t actually have any problems finding men in real life. While the quality of those men might be in question, the overall narratives of online discourse don’t really affect women’s real life dating prospects. Whereas I certainly feel the degrading of “broke men” who can’t afford to pay for their girlfriends nails in a terrible economy or “short men” who are 5’9 absolutely fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:32 PM
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But we’re talking on a systemic society-wide level. Not on individual women. Women certainly are not a hive mind, however, shifts in society affect all of us and lead us all to find some qualities more attractive than others. Like Eurocentric features, or how thin women were more desirable in the past. We are inundated with absolutely top tier looking people daily, inundated with unrealistic relationship goals daily. Since we are talking primarily of men under this post, this means that what con…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:29 PM
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Definitely more subconscious. But we all compare ourselves to others and for the most part have a general idea of where we stand in dating. Some people have vastly bigger egos than others. Intuitively, this would seem to apply more to women since they have to ability to sleep with and garner attention from men who, on paper, have more qualities about them that would generally be considered attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:24 PM
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The “source” is the collective experiences of millions of men online matching up with each other. Complex sociological concepts like this are hard to find concrete clinical research in. But just like we are all supposed to believe the collective experiences of women match up with reality, we can state the same for men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:19 PM
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The majority of the grievances I see men have are in terms of physical attractiveness. Not in terms of being a good boyfriend, being a good person, and generally improving the life of the woman they are with. Nor does it have to do with a sense of style or charisma. Those are things every man can work and improve on. Physical attractivess? Not so much after a certain point. Most guys here aren’t complaining that they have to treat a woman nicely to get a date. They’re complaining that they have …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:16 PM
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The common human reaction to failing at something is to try harder. To see where you are lacking and to try and better yourself in that area. Automatically assuming someone you’re talking to hasn’t already tried to do so is incredibly demeaning. The same as telling a poor person they haven’t worked hard enough, or they wouldn’t be poor. It’s a sort of thinking that comes from someone who has no empathy. You think a dude that is lamenting online about the fact he can’t get women hasn’t tried to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:43 PM
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Lmaooo obviously he’s tried to better himself. This isn’t a just world where hard work is rewarded with results. It’s a deeply unfair one where those with natural advantages often times get the positive results
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:56 PM
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I thought random strangers don’t owe you anything? Why are you expecting everyday men with no systemic power to suddenly don a cape and save you, when materially, things are bad for everyone? You don’t see the irony?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:47 PM
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In what way can men “help”? No individual man in this society has any power to make other men start acting right. If you mean a broad societal change, you need to start looking at those in power. Rich men, men who have power over other men in meaningful ways. Me telling my homeboy to stop treating women badly and cutting him off will not make him change his ways. You know who does have power over his actions in a meaningful way? The individual women who fuck him. If the pussy dries up he’ll be f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:39 PM
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So you can’t at all see how society alienated young adults today? It’s all on the individual?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 05:04 PM
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But don’t you think your daughter’s self isolation was a product of our society? A good portion of us live in atomized suburbs with social venues you have to drive to and no sense of coherent community beyond strip malls. For a young man or woman who doesn’t do extracurriculars, the internet is their only way to get any sort of social interaction. And the internet is a very alienating space. Now of course this is not an excuse to be misogynistic, or racist or anything like that. But this is real…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:44 PM
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Yes, but for the purpose of this conversation we can assume they are being alienated. A good portion of virgins and sexually unsuccessful men today aren’t basement dwelling gremlins who don’t shower. They’re normal guys that are just unlucky and have no outstanding traits about them. Or they’re below average looking but otherwise normal functioning people. We can wish that male sexlessness and inceldom is just a product of the individual but that’s like saying poverty is the product of individua…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:32 PM
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Yes I agree, men should by default see women as humans and not as some mythical enigma. But as another poster stated, alienation from something makes you more likely to pedestalize it, or mythologize it. Keyword: More likely. You’re ignoring that and showing a lack of empathy for an experience you’ve never had to go through. It’s kinda like a poor kids view of disney world vs a rich kids. The poor kid is kore likely to think of Disney world as an unattainable fantasy world while a rich kid just …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:04 PM
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You’re also well into adulthood and have been able to easily have sex since your teens. Not the same thing as a teenage/young adult male who’s never had a women express any sort of sexual interest in him
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:31 PM
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But again, why would the narrow subset of men that women want settle down if it literally does not matter whether or not they do? There is no incentive to. Plenty of women on this sub and in mainstream thought don’t care to settle down for that exact reason. Dick is cheap. For these men, pussy is relatively cheap compared to how other men see it. The vast majority of women do not have what it takes to bag their narrow preference for anything more than a night or brief fling. Of course these men …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:13 PM
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It started being less about providing rights for all women and just allowing white women to join in the spoils of late stage capitalism. “We want to be girl bosses and lead exploitative mega corporations too!”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:00 PM
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Pre-selection theory has been validated
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:23 PM
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It partly has to do with envy. Like the other dude said it doesn’t come easy. Most men face ample rejection which also makes them bitter at the fact it’s so much easier for women. Don’t get it twisted dudes love sluts, just not for anything other than the short biological act. For a relationship? Not so much
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:49 PM
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Being a “jerk” or an “asshole”, gets you rewarded by a worryingly high amount of women. Y’all vote with your pussies and many men see who gets the majority of these votes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:34 PM
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If you hate black ppl jus say that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 06:59 PM
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They would not. Next question!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:30 AM
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Well if the change in behavior coincides with these events can you blame these men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 02:09 PM
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The girls in college are not hooking up with frat dudes because they have “good futures”. They’re hooking up because they love men who breed chaos
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 01:41 AM
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Nobody is claiming women overtly go “Wow 👀he has all the ladies I want a piece!”, like nobody is saying that, you’re arguing nothing right now. The point we’re making is that the more options a man has the more attractive he is to other women. It works at a subconscious level, he’s more “valid” in women’s eyes. No women consciously thinks it tho, that would be weird, which is probably why this concept makes you so uncomfortable. You’re arguing against a scientific article with no evidence to sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 05:05 PM
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Nowhere in what he said did he advocate for this lmaoooo
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 02:18 PM
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Pre-selection is a real thing. Plenty of men have experience with being hit on more or having more women show interest in them when they are already dating another woman. This is a real legitimate thing that happens to men, this is our experience. Women themselves try and employ this method when they want their multiple options to “compete” for them. Plenty of women believe that a man will want you more when you have other men that want you. Why is this so unbelievable when it happens to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:28 AM
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Well given the fact so many women sleep with these men and then complain that men suck at sex, it doesn’t seem like the athletes frat stars etc that they fuck have good dick either
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:49 PM
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Most men have experienced the phenomena where they get no noticeable attention from women until they get a girlfriend. Or until they start talking to a girl. And then suddenly they get an influx of women who are interested in them and show overt interest. Many men can attest to this happening to them, including myself. I don’t know why you’re hell-bent on invalidating our experiences but this shit is real, and it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:42 PM
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No it is not. Plenty of women date men that arguably hate them. Plenty of women date men that rarely compliment them, stress them the hell out and abuse them. Hell it’s arguable that the more toxic you are, the easier dating is for you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 12:57 PM
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Niceness is not the bare minimum lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 03:41 PM
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This is why I say fear women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 12:10 AM
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It’s not that they aren’t nice wholesome guys, it’s just that they aren’t physically attractive enough for it to matter. Niceness is absolutely not a prerequisite to having success with women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 11:49 PM
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I.E get free food/drinks
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 02:55 AM
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Nope, the majority of you know from the jump who you want and your actions and feelings show that. The only thing that changes is if the guy you want ends up being incredibly weird. But for the most part y’all know exactly who from the pick of men you have you want the most
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 02:54 AM
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Yes I agree, to make your female partner orgasm you have to put a considerable amount of work in. I have no problem with that. But it gets ridiculous when she can only cum with a vibrator, or when the room is 65°F or after you’e rotated her clit exactly 149 times clockwise and 56 times counter. And then having the audacity to claim men “suck at sex”. Like you always need a vibrator to bust a nut? Gahdamn that is certainly a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 05:13 PM
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But there are many ways to achieve clitoral stimulation. If you cannot orgasm without a vibrator then you are the problem lmaoo. Doesn’t matter if your partner gave you his best oral game for an hour straight, all you’d say is that he “doesn’t know how to give head” because you’ve desensitized yourself clit blasting 24/7
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 05:08 PM
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I make my partner climax everytime we get down. Sorry your coochie don’t work boo. Hope you get it fixed❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 05:03 PM
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Getting off a specific way definitely doesn’t mean her vagina is broken. I used harsh language there that I shouldn’t have. I just don’t like the prevailing narrative that all men suck at sex yada yada yada, when a good portion of women cannot even get themselves off. Or they need a random act of God in order to orgasm. Like the Gods looked down on her favorably that day and decided to bestow on her the elusive “O”. I do agree a ton of men are selfish asf, and only look at women as meat pockets,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 03:23 PM
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That’s not my problem lmao. My problem is shaming men and claiming they are “bad at sex” for reasonably being frustrated by this. Like my guy can’t even air out his frustrations online without being immediately shit on as if he isn’t trying at all. I’d never agree to air out these frustrations to your actual partner. And if you love them enough you’d work with them and do whatever it takes. But if a man is frustrated, that does not mean he’s bad at sex. Take some responsibility in the fact you n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 03:13 PM
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That is exactly what I tell men to do. If you do not want to have to account for 20 different variables in sequential order to make a partner climax just don’t. Find another partner that doesn’t need a million things to orgasm. What I don’t like is women shaming men for the fact their own vagina’s don’t work. If you need 20 different things to happen precisely in order to climax you’re terrible at sex too lol. 5 different things? That’s fine. 10 different things? If I love you I’ll do it. But 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 03:10 PM
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That is exactly what I tell men to do. If you do not want to have to account for 20 different variables in sequential order to make a partner climax just don’t. Find another partner that doesn’t need a million things to orgasm. What I don’t like is women shaming men for the fact their own vagina’s don’t work. If you need 20 different things to happen precisely in order to climax you’re terrible at sex too lol. 5 different things? That’s fine. 10 different things? If I love you I’ll do it. But 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 03:10 PM
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You gotta pull this lever at this specific angle, with this much pressure, oh and if the room is too cold the lever might not work, but if the room is too hot the lever might move too much. Oh and sometimes the lever just won’t work because fuck you you’re bad at pulling levers. After that make sure to pull the octahedratron 28° north at a counterclockwise position. Then your girl might cum. And if she doesn’t fuck you it’s your fault
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 03:02 PM
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Does every woman that deals with a man with ED now suck in bed? This is the female equivalent of ED lol. It doesn’t matter how “good” a partner is if you need a laundry list of exact specifics in order to reach climax. I love how the blame is always immediately put on the man, even if the demands are ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 02:59 PM
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Tell me you make random assumptions of stranger online without telling me. Me and my partner use toys all the time. I’m the one that suggested them to her. If your coochie is broken and needs a military ordinance on it to climax just say that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 02:48 PM
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If she can literally only cum from a vibrator, as in no amount of oral or finger stimulation can make her climax, that is too specific for me personally. If anything I’m doing more work doing oral/fingering than I am sitting there and watching her blast supersonic vibrations onto her clit. It’s perfectly reasonable for a man to be put off by this. It’s just like a guy that can only climax when he’s watching porn with a death grip on his franklin. Vibrators are an added bonus in bed, but if they’…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 02:45 PM
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I mean, do you think that that is a reasonable amount of specifications another human should have to abide by to satisfy their partner? I think he’s justified in being frustrated, that’s a ridiculous amount of things he has to do exactly right for her to climax. If I was him I just wouldn’t kick it with her no more
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 02:34 PM
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Yes, physical attractiveness outweighs every other factor on a 1v1 basis
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 11:34 PM
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Most men stopped making fun of women for stuff like this 10 years ago lol, you’d get crucified for saying any of this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 10:43 PM
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If you are consistently overlooked you might as well be invisible. Do you know the current third string left guard of the New York Jets? No? I don’t either. If you’re not in the #1 you might as well not exist until you are absolutely needed. This disagreement is a matter of semantics and nothing else
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:35 PM
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LMAOOOOOOOOOO they do tho. What’s the difference between a good friend and a romantic partner? Your looks. This is hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:31 PM
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You should just lower your economic expectations. Stop being so entitled like incels, it’s gross. If you never land a job after applying for hundreds that’s your fault and you should work to improve yourself and better. If you’re poor you probably have terrible hygiene and you’re not as “nice” as you think you are
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 09:19 PM
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Yea I’m sure if a dude born in the hood with no material resources or support system did everything exactly the same as Elon Musk he’d be an incredibly successful businessman as well. Doesn’t matter if his father wasn’t a blood diamond tycoon. If you just pull your bootstraps hard enough, and in the exact same way a currently rich person does, you’ll be successful. Child-like viewpoint of the world
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 09:12 PM
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Try not to deepthroat the boot so much honey
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 09:07 PM
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But male sexuality and female sexuality is different in that sense. Men will fuck women from a wide range of smv. Women for the most part will not. Women have a higher tendency to feel sexual disgust than men do so yea
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 07:23 PM
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You’re literally saying the same thing as him, with just an extra caveat. That caveat being that those men aren’t invisible “forever”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 06:39 PM
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Please pick up a history book. Please just for one moment in your life get informed. Normal women have been working right alongside men for much of history
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:15 PM
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No they wouldn’t wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 06:58 PM
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Women do not care about a man’s body count for LTR. Promiscuous men can have as much sex as they want and most women won’t bat an eye. That is the collective standard you guys hold, that is why as a man you should strive to be sexually proficient
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 03:14 PM
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It’s honestly enlightening how much you’re demonizing the standards of the men I mentioned in my post. Immediately choosing to insinuate that the simple physical standards that they have are because they’re looking for a “body to use”. It’s weird as fuck. You don’t know these guys. I do, and they’re all looking for a girlfriend to treat right. That was personally my physical standard before I met my girl. That she wasn’t obese or deformed in the face. After that though? Yes my standards increase…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:26 PM
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Men also have less options, and don’t complain as much
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:19 PM
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Lmao there are tons of good dudes out there. You might just be unlucky, or you might jus be attracted to men with red-flags. I dunno, but good men are out there, and they’re treating their respective women like absolute royalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:13 PM
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I said this before but women mainly only approach men they consider to be the top guys in their opinion. It might just be you were shooting out of your league no disrespect intended. I know atleast for guys my age, they don’t care about a woman being “masculine” in that area because it’s already hard as is to find a girl. Having one shoot their shot at you would be a dream come true for a lot of them. I can guarantee you women have a higher percentage shooting their shot than men do, like expone…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:58 PM
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I don’t know why the simple statement that women are more shallow puts y’all in such a tizzy. Pointing out the ironic nature of the fact women are more shallow does not mean “women bad” it can just be a true statement, with no extra agenda behind it. Like grasping for straws by saying how many are gay? Really? Gay men honestly have the most sex out of all demographics lol. How many are voluntarily celibate? I doubt enough to make any considerable impact on the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:55 PM
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I’m glad we agree. But given the fact women have the overwhelming power in dating and sex, men disliking and wanting change to something that pertains to those two categories means nothing if women do not also want it changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:41 PM
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Shhh we can only ever complain about men. Pointing out stuff like that makes you a dirty stinky incel. How about you have sex with women instead of caring about the gender disparity in homeless population sweaty. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:40 PM
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In theory most women would want to date a CEO who makes 80 billion dollars a second, is 6’5, and knows where the clit is, but that’s not a reality for most women so why speak on it? You know what is a reality? That 30% of men had zero sex in the past year, not even one time lol. You know what else is reality? The fact that women themselves have stated they find the vast majority of men physically unattractive. You guy are the more shallow sex. Albeit only slightly more shallow, but still shallow…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:38 PM
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If we’re both saying essentially the same thing, it’d be best to assume we agree, no? If you don’t agree then say that, specifically stating what you don’t agree with. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:34 PM
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I’m glad we both agree:). Which is why being promiscuous is often seen as a positive indicator for men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:11 PM
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Your perception of poindexter changes the minute you find out he’s slept with 3 of your friends. “Poindexter” was never poindexter if he was able to bag your friends or acquaintances. No matter how much you state that a man’s sexual activity doesn’t matter to women, pre-selection is a thing you all indulge in. Whether subconsciously or consciously, you guys are more drawn to sexually successful men than unsuccessful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 09:57 PM
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Be truthful, how many men do you know that have a “main chick and 3 side chicks”??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 09:52 PM
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I am a man of college age, I know a lot of men of college age as well. I can tell you with certainty, that the main thing these guys care about physically is that she isn’t fat or deformed. And even then some guys like fat girls. Like that’s it, those are literally the only physical standards a lot of guys have. After that, provided she isn’t unattractive(which being fat can make you), They care about her personality, her vibe and how compatible she is. Just like women. For the most part men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 09:51 PM
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So many “social rules” have been thrown out over the past 50 years but women seem to be in no rush at all to defy this specific “social rule” by initiating. How coincidental. Orrrrr, women for the most part just don’t find that many men physically attractive. Some fault lies on men as a collective, but a good portion of it lies in the fact a lot of women have completely unrealistic physical standards for men. Because trust me, women approach, but only approach their version of a top guy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 09:43 PM
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“Do I look fat in this dress” is a tried and tested shit test. “What’s your type?” You better say it’s her without a shadow of doubt “Omg I look so ugly today” you gotta compliment her but don’t compliment her at the same time because then that’s just being a kiss ass Etc etc, constant mind games and constant mines you have to step over. I’ve experienced this with almost every girl I’ve dated, regardless of race, culture, religious affiliation etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:56 PM
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“Not settling” when it comes to behavior, such as treatment, romantic displays, chemistry and overall compatibility is what everyone should do. “Not settling” when it comes to superficial traits such as how snatched her waist is, how fat her ass is, how tall he is, how his physique is etc, is why the dating market is so trash. The majority of people selecting for phenotypic expressions, and selecting along metrics that are incredibly rare or unrealistic is bound to leave most of us either single…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 04:42 PM
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Well it’s the world we Americans live in. A dystopian hell-hole within a larger dystopian hell-scape
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 06:01 PM
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Wow then that puts my whole theory to shit. Incredibly interesting for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 06:00 PM
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Could also just be that maybe women that can afford monthly contraceptives can also afford costly anti-depressant drugs. Pharmaceuticals that aren’t opiods are expensive as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:33 PM
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Women definitely can make the first move if you’re attractive enough
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:38 PM
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Yes, I’m sure your outlooks makes total sense. Every man should just throw themselves at clubs and bars, spend hundreds every weekend, fuck up the gender ratio at said clubs and bars, and every dude will totally slay hard. Except that’s not how things work, most men do not have the financial means, nor the smv to successfully implement this. This is a child-like analysis of a very complex topic. “Just pick yourself up by the bootstraps bro!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:35 PM
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A better analogy would be that you lived in mansions when you were younger, partied hard and lived it up, then your financial situation became more precarious, so you settled for a nice modest home where you would be comfortable. You would stay in the mansion if you could be comfortable within it, but you can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:33 PM
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“Chasing supermodels” is in no way the same as actually having causal relations with supermodel-esque women. Which most men will never get to do. But which most women have the ability to if they so please.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:30 PM
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You make great points, but can you also see how this sentiment could be met with skepticism to certain men? It is commonly thought, atleast in western societies, that your 20’s are when casual arrangements based solely on superficial traits happen with the most frequency. This is also around the time when most women are most attractive. During this time as well, most men do not really get to partake in these casual arrangements, as these arrangements are reserved for the men that display the hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:22 PM
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Yes, the average man’s path to a “lust-filled” 20’s would essentially be to date and have sex with women they don’t want to. Not sure if that would actually constitute “lust-filled” because these men wouldn’t actually be attracted to these women. Almost the same concept as how women have “options” that they don’t want, making those “options” not really options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:10 PM
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Most guys are too “low value” in regards to smv to have “lust-filled sex” in their 20’s. Only a small portion of men have the inherent attractive traits (height, good-looks, socioeconomic status, social status) to do that. Because women are more inclined to always want only a certain top percentile of men. If suddenly every man grew a few inches I truly do not think most women would then be satisfied with the height of men. They would just want even taller men to a certain point. Same thing with…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:07 PM
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What? The only thing that stops someone from being a really close friend, and a boyfriend is looks. Looks are the backbone of sexual and romantic attraction. The case where sexual attraction is instigated by something other than looks happens so rarely that it’s not even worth mentioning seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 12:12 AM
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Are you a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 12:02 AM
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He wants to feel valued by his partner. That explanation would suffice for the majority of men who care about this subject. Why would a man who cares about how his partner views him stay in a relationship where he feels he isn’t his partners best? Where he feels like he’ll always be overshadowed by her past? Why is it that the man’s perspective isn’t valid in this situation? I would implore every man who is conflicted about whether or not his girl is truly attracted to him to leave and find some…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 12:00 AM
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It’s rich being told imma neckbeard by someone who is far more likely to be a neckbeard than me😂. I shave and wash my ass ma, try somebody else with that. Your reasoning weak as hell too
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:48 AM
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Ancient Hunter Gatherer’s lived life on “Hard mode”. Did that make them “victims”. Mens’ lives are comparably harder than women’s in a good amount of categories in life. That doesn’t make them victims
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:08 PM
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You’ve came to two conclusions in your post that are blatant strawmen lmaoo. First off, I never insinuated that anybody can “tell” a woman’s body count. Secondly, the mere fact that a man isn’t worried about how he compares to other men does not mean he’s not worried about giving good dick. He just doesn’t care about your supposed ability to “know through experience”. But keep telling yourself whatever you need to ma. The fact of the matter is men prefer women to not be promiscuous for the most …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:17 PM
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So you think it’s more of the guys being insecure, rather than you just being an unattractive partner choice to them? Like I’m here to tell you, the majority of men don’t like promiscuous women because promiscuity is just seen as unattractive to men Your ability to “know through experience” whether he’s giving good dick is one of the last things on a guys mind. That’s all in your head and your head only
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:49 PM
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Yea, in college. Does this hold true later in life though?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:04 PM
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This is madonna whore complex in action
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:01 PM
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Yea, I agree. Having lots of sex in it of itself is not an indicator of “low value” in women. However only a select few men can have large amounts of consensual sex with multiple women. Which is why the double standard is there. I personally try and stay away from promiscuous women while dating because more often than not it brings more drama and nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 02:59 PM
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It’s exponentially easier for women to have sex tho. Men will literally fuck anything. It says nothing of her value about the amount of men that will stick their dicks in her lol. She can have higher physical standards because men are whores and shoot their shots at anything
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 02:25 PM
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Nahh if men don’t want to wife a promiscuous woman that’s their preference and perogative
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:53 PM
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Just because she’s rejecting guys doesn’t mean she has self control lol. All it could mean is that she has higher physical standards, and less men then would be able to reach them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:51 PM
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I get that I really do. But some men are just not capable of reading that since you blinked three times, put your fingers through your hair and did a slight smile that means you want to kiss. Because plenty of women do that all the time and it doesn’t mean they want a kiss. Yunno what I mean? It’s either we are alll for consent and everything that comes with it, or you’re comfortable with having to reject guys who can’t read your mind at that specific moment in time. It’s really hard sometimes a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:55 PM
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You’re right social skills sre incredibly important. But even the most socially aware people miss social cues. There’s a massive difference when interacting with people on a friendly everyday basis, and interacting with someone when it comes to dating. Dating hold far more risk. Some women will literally hold eye contact with you for longer than 5 seconds and that treat you like a weirdo when you go in for a kiss. And guess what? Now you are a weirdo who doesn’t understand boundaries and you’ve …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:51 PM
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The fact of the matter is we’re all humans. I consider myself a pretty social person, socially aware as well. But given the fact I am a fallible human capable of making mistakes, I tend to be pretty careful around topics like sex and intimacy unless there’s clear signs that they’re open to it. Otherwise, all it takes is one wrongly interpreted body cue to ruin my chances with a woman and worse yet, have myself labeled a sexual predator. I’d hope women would be more understanding of this and take…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 04:43 PM
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This is straight cap lol, the below to above average women demographic holds some of the most delusional human beings on the planet. The most mid women think they’re petite-Kardashians
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 03:10 PM
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This is rich coming from someone who doesn’t have to worry about this lol. All you gotta do is sit back in your passive role and let the man do all the work
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 03:06 PM
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The sheer fact you’re asking her if she likes to be asked would be a turn off for a good number of women. Like be realistic here
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 03:05 PM
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dis is reddit, not english class nerd
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:36 PM
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But that would be valid tho. There are plenty of trash men out there, a plethora in fact. The dating market is a hellscape rn. It just so happen that women have most of the power so y’all create a lot of your own hell
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:13 PM
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I agree, however that doesn’t change the fact that increasingly only a few select men are able date, and when they do it’s multiple women. Which aids the narrative that women all like a narrow subset of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:48 PM
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Like how are you going to be turned off by the fact I asked to kiss you? Or asked for consent? Isn’t that what you want? Isn’t consent sexy? This is what it’s like to date as a man. Something women just don’t have to deal with. But if I was to say fuck it and start going in guns blazing I’d run the risk of being a terrible person who doesn’t understand boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:38 PM
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There have been multiple “we are that generation”’s. All throughout history. Short-lived civilizations you will never hear about. It just so happens that we are currently talking about the generation we live in, and with rapid industrialization came rapid changes generation to generation. But yes I do agree, you can’t selectively breed out sex-based behavioral instincts in a relatively intelligent species like us
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:35 PM
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They’re not my girls, I’m sure they’re dating multiple men as well. Until a relationship is established we are both free to explore our options
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:32 PM
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If I, as a young man, find that every woman I interact with, regardless of culture, religion, race, political affiliation, has these standards how can I be the one with “trash standards”. That’s all that’s out there lol. You can call them “shallow e-thots” or whatever you want but those are just average women. They are the women you see in the street everyday, the NPCs you don’t give another thought. Not some gross caricature. That’s the prevailing narrative on social media, the prevailing narra…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:29 PM
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That just doesn’t make sense lol. The overwhelming reason women today have the freedom that they do is because of the combined effort of men and women to give them that freedom. New generations that are born have a fresh slate, create their own cultures and then take the reigns of society
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:25 PM
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Your flair is literally “chad chaser” lol. Like I know it’s a joke but it’s a bit on the nose for the discussion being had. And it’s kinda true, atleast in my experience as a young man in a large metroplex dating
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:18 PM
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Men have little to no standards when it comes to dating lol. Men for the most part will take what they can get. The stereotypical basement dweller who wants a bikini model is a stereotype, as in it doesn’t happen much. Most men just want a woman who has a similar personality (which most means garden-variety normie) and don’t ask for much else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:16 PM
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It’s isn’t “polygamy” in the overt sense. It’s just multiple women dating the same guy, unaware of that fact. Hell I’ve been on three dates this week with different women. You think they know each other? No, but at the same time a few of my friends haven’t had matches in months. The game is the game
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:12 PM
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Suspending your ego and becoming a narcissist I feel like this is the way to go honestly. It’s better to be an egotistical domineering man and lean into the gender stereotypes than live an unfulfilling soul crushing existence that happens when you’re a normal average man. Because man, this shit is confusing, all the different social rules you have to follow that don’t actually aid in anything but hindering success and leaving you feeling hollow. People really expect men to just go years without …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:05 PM
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anytime someone starts a comment with “so…” it’s about to be some dumb shit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 03:59 PM
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😂😂like what do y’all want. It’s so frustrating man. Being respectful and shit is screamed from the heavens as the go-to when dealing with women, but these same women find it unattractive. Literal mind-bending shit. Like my past few experiences in the last month have really got me feeling like I should just say fuck it and just start being toxically masculine
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 03:56 PM
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Having to be look like their favorite celeb, being over six foot tall, having your shit together in your early 20’s, having a large social media presence with clout, having to fake your whole personality to fit in, having to be incredibly low body fat etc etc. Y’alls personality standards are pretty mundane and easily achievable, but the limiting factor is looks, the standards for what makes a man physically attractive are astronomical. And that’s what stops the majority of men from being able t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 03:50 PM
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Lmao, an aware brother was born that day. The same types of girls that did this shit back then are currently complaining on social media about how men aren’t romantic and don’t put effort in. Like why would we lol, y’all don’t actually appreciate that shit past an ego boost
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 03:44 PM
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Women continue to insist looks are a secondary metric they use to date, with “personality” and other metrics being the main thing. This just isn’t true. I doubt the vast majority of men who are either sexless or find it hard to find someone long-term have such terrible deficiencies personality wise that they can’t find women. The overwhelming reason, in my opinion, is that the physical standards put on men are so high and so limiting that they don’t pass that “secondary metric” because it really…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 03:38 PM
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I agree, now stop calling men “entitled” because they want to date and are frustrated about the incredible standards put on men today if they want to be successful. The current dating market is trash and we can all agree to that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 03:32 PM
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Everyday you post about how you’re not like the other guys on this sub and about how getting women is actually really easy and all you have to do is put in effort blah blah blah. The game is the game, and for a good portion of men, the game is fucked. We get it man, you slay and dating is easy for you because you’re an amazing guy who worked hard and has all the qualities women want. Now give it a rest lol. I agree with you, atleast when it comes to the more insufferably extreme takes some perma…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:09 AM
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No reasonably attractive man who struggles in dating should date unattractive women unless those are his type. Just because the collective standards of women are so unrealistic that average men find it hard to find the right girl doesn’t mean men should dumpster dive
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:45 AM
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It’s literally the madonna whore complex presenting itself, with women perpetrating it instead. We already know how women hate it, it only makes sense that men would hate it too. There’s multiple layers to this from the man’s perspective. If she wants to “take it slow” there’s more risk she’ll lose interest down the line, more risk you’re getting strung along, more risk nothing will come out of it. For the man that actually wants something long-term, delayed intimacy means less investment from t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:48 AM
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I think men are more confused about the fact women are comfortable getting butt naked with men they know won’t commit, but are cautious about men who are seemingly more well put together mentally and financially. personally seems backwards to me as well but I could see it making sense in a way
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:35 AM
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The criteria doesn’t make sense tho lol. Like more power to her but it’s dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 12:26 PM
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I’m not talking about doing it solely for women. I’m far more mobile, got a higher vertical, faster, have more endurance, and generally have less stress on my joints now then when I was heavy into powerlifting/compound lifts. But getting more girls doesn’t hurt either😌. Not knocking on you, just saying that strength isn’t everything. But keep it up bro hope you reach new maxes till the end of time seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:55 PM
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Ahh gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:40 AM
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Pro-tip, if you’re looking for aesthetics high reps is the way to go. As a disciple of Zyzz he taught me this. Also, pec-decks bro. Pec-decks have drastically changed the appearance of my chest. Just my 2£
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:26 AM
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Who gives a shit about max deadlift unless you’re someone who competes in powerlifting events? I used to rep 405 for sets of 5 like a maniac on deadlifts and I get more girls now slimmer and slightly weaker. Unless you really care about the approval of other men all those weightlifting maxes won’t do shit for you in the realm of dating
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:24 AM
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Keep shredding those kgs my guy. Love to see it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:22 AM
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Keep it up Ben Shapiro. You sure got me haha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:24 AM
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No thanks lol. Let’s just agree to disagree. I’m not gonna spend my Wednesday night going through marxist theory with you. That’s way too tiring
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:05 AM
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We don’t agree though. Socialism in the economic sense is nowhere near “socialism” in this twisted sense you’re trying to push.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:18 AM
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But a lot of them would see little change if they suddenly got “good personalities”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 07:42 PM
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They’re neoliberals, they ineffectually advocate for “climate change” while also taking fossil fuel lobbyists money and other corporate donors that add to the climate crisis. It’s a front to satiate their liberal supporters and make them feel good without fundamentally changing anything. Virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 07:41 PM
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Because the “socialism” that would occur in that aspect would quite literally lead to rape. You cannot negotiate attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 07:38 PM
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Serious question: Do you see women as real human beings capable of introspection and critical thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 07:37 PM
1

Eh, this scenario benefits no one. Since we all want connection with living human beings. But we’ll all find a way to cope in the oncoming dystopian hellscape. I hope everyone manages to find happiness on this space rock
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 07:21 PM
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I dunno what redpill dudes are saying. I’m personally gonna keep putting in effort because I don’t care about that shit. More often than not if she finds you attractive and you put a decent amount of effort you can win her over. Less men putting in effort means I look better
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:42 AM
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I can think of a scenario. The more men drop out of sex/dating, the more competition women will have to do in order to get the man they want. This can then lead to certain situations where the men they want play the field, don’t commit, don’t put effort in, don’t do anything romantic and have sex whenever they want. Leading to a loss in power for women. The more men become privy to the idea that they are most likely unattractive to most women and will only be wanted as a last resort, the more me…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:33 AM
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By the short end of the stick I think he means constantly being rejected or being on the back burner until the woman/women in question want to settle down. But thanks for demonizing male sexuality. Happens a lot on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:28 AM
1

They more often than not did not start as pure platonic friends though. They were most assuredly banging early on in that “friendship”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:53 PM
2

We only accept it in areas which are culturally safe to accept it. Which often means it either puts women in a good light, or has a negligible affect on gender relations. That’s just the god-honest truth
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:44 PM
2

But you don’t find the actual idea of him having sex with a particular number of women repulsive. Just the possible fact that he’s sloppy with poor dick management. That’s the difference for men. They don’t care if you’re STD free, if you practiced safe sex and if you aren’t talking to those men anymore. They expressly care about the number, and really only that. Some if these dudes would rather get a girl who got the clap but has a bodycount of 1 over a girl who’s had 30+ partners but all safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:42 PM
3

Okay but a lot of women want men that are attractive to other women. So the whole “it’s not hard to tell if you find someone attractive” etc etc dynamic, while true, doesn’t fit for the type of woman who feels good about a man because other women like him. Like it is literally the same thing, just one extra layer added. Adding a caveat that “He doesn’t have sex with those women” is effectively useless since most men are going to have sex with those women while casually dating you. Think
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:39 PM
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I want men freed from the shackles of physical attraction. Make these good-looking women work to be better people lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:26 AM
3

It’s more frowned upon because men in a large part uphold it as a negative trait. Of all the things men seemingly don’t care about in women, such as employment, compatibility long-term, cleanliness etc, they sure do seem to care about who she’s having sex with when she’s single. Which is incredibly telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:11 AM
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All of which could easily be wrong. And all of which women themselves state is not an indicator of someone’s n-count. The coolest women I’ve ever met had a lengthy history.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:09 AM
1

But it seems n-count is a standard that is more ubiquitous in men than women. I think that’s the main point
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:07 AM
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Wise proverb
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:06 AM
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This. Imo the only time a man’s dsting history matters is if it directly has to do with that woman. If you messed with her friend or an acquaintance who was in her friend group. You dated 30 randoms in 10 different cities? Nah I don’t think most women wound have a problem with that. Some men tho? Definitely
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:04 AM
1

How will these women know this man’s bodycount tho? Are we assuming they’re all asking and not liking the answer. That assumption is pulling heavy weight for this scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:59 AM
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If he’s been turned away after sex he’s probably really good looking but a terrible/boring person. The fact in it of itself that he’s had sex with many women won’t be what turns off other women lol. It’ll be the fact he has a bad personality. That’s a very important distinction I think
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:56 AM
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But in practice it almost always is the same thing lol. The type of guy that can get multiple women will, in general, be having sex with those women. It’s like saying I want a show that everyone thinks is gonna be good, but if everyone actually watches it I don’t want it anymore. Realistically if those people think the show is good, and the access to that show is open to anyone able to buy a subscription, they’re gonna watch it. Will that really stop you from watching it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:53 AM
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I will say it’s probably your age just being honest. Bodycount is a big thing when your in your teens and young adulthood. For men, it’s racking up a high count to seem more desirable, for women the opposite. This is just in my own small-world experience. The older you get the less you care about it. I already find myself giving less and less thought to it because I’m a grown ass man lol. People are gonna do shit, life moves on
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:45 AM
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I personally don’t think the shaming is genuine. It’s more like “giving men a taste of their own medicine” rather than a genuine standard. I personally have had women ask me my count unprovoked, but it didn’t phase them or even seem like anything they were really considering. We still did stuff and still hung out afterwards. I feel most guys would tell you that their “bodycount” has literally had no bearing on their dating life. Furthermore, I’d even go further to say I higher count could even b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:41 AM
3

Literally this, just chalk it up to the fact both of you aren’t compatible and call it a day
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:05 PM
1

This this this^<sup>,</sup> she could have easily highlighted how porn is for the actual performers and how a lot of them are manipulated from a young age, but she instead decides to use a weak baseless argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:52 PM
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I mean the “brag” didn’t come outta nowhere. You definitely insinuates I don’t get out but yea. Make whatever assumptions you want the world is yours I’m jus livin in it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:06 PM
4

Porn addicted men aren’t the only ones that suck at sex. It’s a shame you haven’t found any that are good. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:12 PM
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Uh huh sure sweety. Responding to your edit: I dunno ask the lame men you have sex with. I make sure my women enjoy their time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:02 PM
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Because mfs watch porn? Lmaoo spare me the bs. Definitely got a more vibrant social life and more genuine friends than you do anyways. God Bless
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:01 PM
4

Uh huh, all this talk about ED and this and that trying to paint a picture like jacking off does some irreparable damage. When y’all literally put howitzer batteries on your crotches and have a million toys under the sun. Totally not just demonizing male sexuality. You’re totally a normal well adjusted individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 10:55 PM
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Most guys do not need “increasingly violent” porn content to get off wtf. Do you think we’re all violent cavemen or something? This isn’t nearly as large an issue as you’re making it out to be in your post. Go actually talk to other men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 10:48 PM
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Bruh y’all literally put artillery pieces on your genitals and have thousands of different toys to fulfill your needs. But God forbid a man watch a raunchy video online and choke his chicken. Foh with this fake concern. Not to mention y’all can literally have sex whenever you want. Please find another issue to cry about
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 10:45 PM
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Next you’ll tell me video games cause society to be more violent
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 10:41 PM
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Lmao @ you actually thinking these arguments will stop guys from jacking off to whatever they want
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 10:38 PM
2

This is exactly why we don’t want to date you😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:08 AM
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I mean, the dating game is fucked both ways. Men have to live up to almost impossible standards and most average men get nothing or very little for the majority of their young adulthood. Women have to deal with constantly filtering out shitheads. It’s all screwed up. And we both play a part in it. But conflict is one of the most human things humans do so there’s that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:51 AM
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I think this is a prime example of male solipsism in action. They don’t see these women as intricate people with lived experiences and complex thought processes and paint them all the same. They center themselves in the actions of women they barely know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:36 AM
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I simply don’t believe that lol. Atleast in my experience as a man dating women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:26 AM
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If the majority of men cannot pass that minimum, then it is the most important thing to those men looking to attract you. Like sure having a masters degree isn’t the most important thing to getting a good paying job, since you have to be competent, but since the majority of people don’t have masters degrees you could say that’s the most important thing to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 06:00 PM
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You tellin me ya dick just decided to sit down and call it a day Thanos style? Tell that mf to get back in the game!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:43 PM
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You didn’t hear it from me… Beetroot powder brother. Can’t be strugglin to get ya schnitzel up at the age of 20
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:38 PM
2

You gotta be lying lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:20 PM
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Safety, comfort etc etc only matter once you have passed the physical threshold. If you’re an average guy you won’t pass the physical threshold for the majority of women, regardless of how good of a human you are. You understand that right? Attractive men have a far greater advantage than you let on in your post. They’re given more benefit of the doubt, given more chances to showcase their relationship qualities, have other perceive their personality as better simply because they’re good looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:47 PM
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If you don’t reach her height or looks requirements then none of the rest matters. And a lot of women conveniently have very stringent height and looks requirements. But yea, I’m sure they’re totally not shallow like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:44 PM
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Women are not less shallow than men. Just stop
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:40 PM
2

Lmao literally all you have to do is go to the gym. Jesus
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:35 PM
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Yes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/22 10:03 PM
2

I barely put anything in mine and still get matches. It’s wholly dependent on how attractive you are lol. Like I can’t believe people don’t understand this concept
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:57 PM
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Bumble, hinge, BLK and all the other apps are the same formula lol. Soulless swiping based on physical attractiveness and nothing else. It is what it is, I’m not mad personally. And a literal big tech entity that curates and decides our dating experiences is a more valid excuse that “me-too” imo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:24 PM
2

This is end stage capitalism lol. The current US is a capitalists wet dream
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:22 PM
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But alas, that’s the world in we live in currently with lockdowns everywhere and no feasible ways to meet people. So tinder is the defacto status quo, and dictates a lot of our dating lives
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:09 PM
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I thought we all saw those videos of girls curating their guy friends dating profiles and still not getting matches. I need you guys to retire this tired ass reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:05 PM
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I’d like to not be beholden to archaic gender roles that women themselves do not like to uphold
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:02 PM
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There’s a difference between being chosen and being settled for, that is usually apparent by how the first few months of the relationship pans out. As a lot of posters say on this subreddit, a ton of people out here settled for their partners
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 01:54 PM
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Incels really have no reason to be pissed, atleast as vehemently as some of them choose to be online. Being frustrated about your failures in dating is totally normal. What isn’t normal is hating 50% of human beings because of that failure. I am of course speaking of the “incels” we think of in popular culture. Not people that struggle to date and don’t hate women because of it. And this a gender neutral term as well. It would make no sense for a woman to hate all men because she has struggles i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/22 05:58 PM
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It tells that she decided to forgo material qualities for something more potentially substantial. I.E settling in the area of material qualities. That is, of course, assuming this man isn’t the most attractive she’s been with, or the most popular, or the richest etc. This is something most people figure out by 30. And it also tells that these material qualities are seemingly less important than you would think. But given the fact that most people initially pick their partners based on material q…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:50 PM
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In terms of material qualities like physical attractiveness, earning potential, social circle etc, some women could very well feel like they settled for a man. Even though that man eventually turns out to be the best thing that ever happened to them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:43 AM
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He’s also more than likely the one she probably felt she “settled” for, atleast in the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:06 AM
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What if I don’t want to “become a man” and just want to be a normal human being thats loved cared for and respected? Why do I gotta follow these strict bs gender roles? Oh yea that’s right, because that’s what the overwhelming majority of women expect from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:03 AM
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I hope he knows his worth and considers leaving for his own mental health. I don’t see this ending well lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:59 AM
2

Damn, swordfish guy here. Wish I was part of boomerang gang😔
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:03 AM
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Have you communicated this with the guy yet, or are you just gonna let it slowly fizzle out? Serious question
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:01 AM
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Man who actively beats his dick to profile photos of women in online dating Hmm, yea totally normal. Nothing to see here
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:46 AM
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I could be waterboarded and nobody would get that confession outta me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:44 PM
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You…had your dick in your hand while you were scrolling dating apps??? Sheesh my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:39 PM
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😔
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 03:54 PM
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Shhh you can’t that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:20 AM
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Autistic Chad with no game will not have anywhere the same success as average guy with large social circle and good game. But he’ll still have a girl here or there that looks past that and wants him because he looks good. Average looking guy with no game is getting nothing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:04 PM
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When you day 360, is he suddenly being an asshole to you, or just indifferent? Sometimes it’s hard to just go back to being on friendly terms after rejection because of the awkwardness associated with that. He may just be playing it safe. Now if he’s being as asshole that’s a different story
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:44 PM
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Yes, men like attractive women. Some men even like the rush of beating other men out for a woman. But this is not something that is on a large scale like I’ve seen with women. Men don’t pre-select women based on how many other men want her. Many men wanting her is a byproduct of her being attractive. Some men may even find a woman less attractive is too many other guys want her. I guess the same could be said for women, but most of us don’t think she’s cooler because other men want her
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:39 PM
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Like who actively wants to compete for somebody when there’s so many human beings out there to form natural connections with? Like if a competition arises so be it, but to actively look out for someone who has more people that want them just doesn’t vibe with me. And the added context that a lack of competition makes someone less attractive points to problematic attachment styles
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:36 PM
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I’m not okay with infidelity. If future humans decided on a large scale that infidelity is a non-issue or something to expect, that’s their prerogative. But for the maybe 80 years I will reside on this planet, I will never tolerate infidelity from a partner and will hold myself to that same standard. If someone else lives differently it’s none of my business until I am romantically tied with them. I am a product of the world I was born in and I won’t change that, atleast in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:46 PM
2

I am entirely mentally ill. I have not one brain cell that isn’t corrupted with memes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:36 PM
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That makes sense for you. I personally think it’s a toxic expectation that was fueled by the toxic dating world she lived in. No sense in having that viewpoint today if you’re a supposedly monogamous person who “loves” your partner and is their equal
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:32 PM
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Why do you care about the type of man who drools over thirst traps. Those guys are bottom barrel. Same as the guys that buy only fans. You shouldn’t care about what they think, they’ll never be on your radar anyways. It’s mainly horny old men anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:48 PM
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That’s toxic lmaoooo, but guess I gotta cheat on the love of my life so she doesn’t think I’m a loser😔
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:47 PM
0

I dunno, I’m taking the 5/10 movie star
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:45 PM
2

Men don’t give a shit. Unless the reason she’s not wanted by anyone else is because she sacrifices hamsters to please baphomet I could give two shits as long as we’re compatible
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:42 PM
2

Literally EVERY guy has experienced having more attention from women when they have a woman in their lives. Like every dude. You’re just trolling lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:39 PM
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Both are delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:39 PM
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The fact that she is highly sought after is not a feature of our attraction to her. We don’t think “Oh Jessica has 100 dudes vying for her but I got her so I’m special”. We just think “I like Jessica and she’s really cute and cool and I’m glad she’s my girlfriend”. None of that extra shit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:37 PM
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When she’s physically attractive but has a low follower count>>> not that high followers is a dealbreaker, just a preference
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:36 PM
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Which is about as reasonable as a guy wanting a virgin who fucks like a pornstar
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:28 AM
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Whiny incels do not get tons of support. The vast majority of the internet hate them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:35 AM
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There’s of black women who do this though, and they get tons of support online for it. All it takes is one like on tiktok and your fyp is flooded with tons of young black girls talking about colorism and this and that. And they have valid points when discussing it too. Let men complain about things that make life harder for them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:01 PM
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It is what it is, atleast you’re smarter now and see the signs. Hope the best for you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:58 PM
1

It’s a tough road, intermittent fasting, heavy cardio, low carbs etc. Cravings be kicking my ass sometimes lol. But it’s what we gotta do to be slightly above average
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:57 PM
1

You literally just “No u”’d me lol . Insinuations mean you’re trying to elicit some sort of plausible deniability. Nobody say’s “why don’t you just turn gay” or insinuate that somebody is secretly gay, unless they’re trying to be insulting to that person. Highly manipulative
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:55 PM
1

I think this is a disagreement over creative differences. Have a nice day fella, New Year new memes baby
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:16 PM
1

Looks, money and status is all you need to get your foot in the door. Personality takes a back burner to those three qualities. A dude who is exceptional in those three criteria will always beat out a dude who’s average in those three but has a great personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:13 PM
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I’d assume her girlfriends or random dudes dirty-macking told her about his past proclivities and she just ignores them. Something something accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:12 PM
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It surprises me how this works too. I guess “love” and infatuation blurs the clear line of manipulation. Shit is tough outchea
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:11 PM
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This is weird. Some women genuinely just want to get drunk and enjoy their night. Do some of them want dick? Sure. And that’s where social awareness come in
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:09 PM
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They go there to have fun with their friends and to enjoy the night. Not for some schmuck like me to try and weasel my way into some cooch.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:07 PM
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Dudes really do this too lmaoo. Act all supportive and shit, until they find out she really isn’t attractive. Then suddenly she means nothing to them. Tough world we live in
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:05 PM
1

Yes, this is true. Any older women that think this hit my line expeditously
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:03 PM
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Why does he have to be white?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:01 PM
2

This is why I’m currently doing only cardio and not lifting weight anymore lol. Being big just isn’t the move anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:56 PM
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Appreciate you much in the same way a King appreciates his court jester. Heartwarming.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:52 PM
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The industrial revolution…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:50 PM
1

This is truth
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:49 PM
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I remember thinking I had a high sex drive until I met my second gf. Sheesh I felt like a sex slave at one point because ya boy was DRAINED.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:49 PM
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He took it personally lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:45 PM
8

Take the bussy pill fellas
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:41 PM
12

Insinuating that being a homosexual is an insulting existence is the epitome of homophobia lol. Just because you aren’t outright saying “I hate gay people” doesn’t mean you aren’t homophobic
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:40 PM
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Only step in if you have a gun, know the assailant doesn’t have a weapon, and/or have extensive combat training
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:42 PM
1

I mean most people “deserve” good partners in the figurative sense. We all deserve to live on a healthy planet, with housing, jobs that treat us right and pay good etc etc. It’s just the fact that life isn’t like that. Too many bad actors, too much strife, too much greed and a generally broken system that helps nobody but a select few. And I’m speaking both in the aspects of dating and economically.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:55 AM
3

USA! USA! US-uh yea I hate it here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:32 PM
1

Those presidents and CEO’s have bombed middle eastern children, and polluted the amazon. Just as ancient conquers raped and pillaged innocent people living in the countryland
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:27 PM
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It’s both their faults in that the man is accountable for not protecting himself and his money
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:25 PM
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They can certainly read minds when an unattractive man asks for a date, or gives a compliment, or really does anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:24 PM
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A lot of the time men are with shitty women that would do that to them, there were signs long before that she would do that. That’s why a lot of folks on this subreddit have been telling dudes to make sure the signs are there that she is truly attracted to him. Because most of these dudes are so touch starved and thirsty that they’ll take any woman, even if she’s shitty. And most importantly, they’ll ignore red flags So I’d say, a measurable amount of accountability should be taken on the aggrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:23 PM
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But let’s say that same dude ended up actually hitting her in a few months, we’re all gonna be expected to act as if it came out of nowhere. I’ve had to do that with my girl-friends before. Tell them it wasn’t their fault etc. and it wasn’t. But in the back of my head I’m wondering why she even got with a dude like that to begin with. Weird world we live in
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:20 PM
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Nobody says this anymore. The current generation of young women have had years to grow out of that mentality and terabytes of social media posts to help them realize abusive men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:17 PM
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I dunno man, this whole narrative that these men are some Machiavellian force of nature just doesn’t make sense. Most men just aren’t that smart. Unless these women too have room temp IQ’s I just can’t imagine all of these men out here are strategic demons. I’m sure it’s a mixture of some men being incredibly manipulative and some women just being idiots. As well as some of those women not being good people themselves and finding comfort in a man that is just like them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:16 PM
1

No it’s not okay to do that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:08 PM
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Just lift bro, get a middle part in your hair, wear some rings and dangly earring and get an aesthetic. That will be $50 sir
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:07 PM
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Mf has a whole villain origin story
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:01 PM
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Most men are as well, the average individual isn’t exceptional
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:58 PM
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No problem man, the tone of your post is all I’m referring to. For all I know you irl could be the most pleasant individual to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:34 PM
2

Yup, it is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:33 PM
2

And this is why it’s smart that y’all don’t do that lol. Please do not put yourself in harms way
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:31 PM
2

Last paragraph is what I have been trying to PREACH on this sub for months now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:26 PM
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You’re 5’1 and look like quasimodo? Just work on your personality/cookings skills/fire breathing ability/sorcery and you’ll find the right one in no time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:24 PM
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Like what’s these dudes obsession with that it’s weird
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:19 PM
1

God, sigma pi’s were the goobers of my college
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:17 PM
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✨accountability✨ love to see it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:16 PM
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This is terrible lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:13 PM
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The bar is directly proportional to how good you look. The better you look, the more young women will put up with. Hell I read earlier in the week how some women’s boyfriend don’t brush their fucking teeth every single day. The bar is in hell, if you look good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:13 PM
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Tinder raised the physical bar for men higher, while lowering everything else. If you reach that physical bar, you can pretty much do whatever you want and there will be a good number of women interested in you still. If you don’t, be prepared to gasp have to be a functioning adult and have your shit together. The amount of work you have to put in is now directly proportional to how good you look. Thanks Tinder!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:11 PM
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Think about this, she’d rather choose the dude that mentally abuses her, or has a high likelihood of doing that, then be with you. Really makes ya think. Maybe you should start being like that dude? Atleast aesthetically
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:07 PM
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You’re getting emotional, calm down
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:05 PM
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Who needs a girl when your homie does it better💯
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:04 PM
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I’m actually interested in hearing what that, hypothetically, would even look like. If women suddenly all gained magical powers like fire throwing and were suddenly stronger than men, how would they oppress them. Interesting thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:03 PM
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I think the main point is, if you do not fit the physical attraction metrics for a particular woman none of these traits matters lol. Like some women have standards that eliminate 90% of the male population (I.E over 6ft, makes a certain amount of money etc) and then add on top of that all of these other traits, you’re looking for needle in a haystack. The list isn’t bad on it’s own, but it is implied you already have to have the baseline requirements, like the aforementioned height requirement,…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:59 PM
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Being a good person is not a prerequisite to having sex with someone. That is my only point. Tying sexual success to someone’s character only succeeds in making those that can’t get sex feel worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:07 PM
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So you agree then, that getting sex or “struggling” to get sex has nothing to do with one’s character or their personal moral views right? Like if even the shittiest men out there can get sex, that kinda reduces the potency of that argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 06:18 PM
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Imagine putting character qualities on one’s ability to get sex, and then being suprised when all the impressionable young men out there want sex above all else. Let’s tie sex to one’s character, and then be surprised when young men feel shitty that they can’t get sex. We already recognize how this affects young women, with some young women feeling terrible about being promiscuous, but suddenly when it applies to men, this concept doesn’t exist. Crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 06:16 PM
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I had to fight the urge to immediately go to the comments and call OP an idiot the moment I saw 1200 AD. Like maybe if he specified the Byzantine empire but even then, just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 05:06 PM
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Dude, this post is about fertility and career women. What does “negotiating attraction” have to do with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 04:19 PM
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My mom had me at 33, and my later sibling at a much older age. Hell my grandma had my aunt in her 40s. With no fertility treatment either
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 04:12 PM
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Solid post
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 04:11 PM
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You be on this website way more than me tho😂. This is certainly my reality
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:30 AM
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I guess most women are trashy then🤷🏾‍♂️, because many men feel the pressure to lie. Just as women feel the pressure to lie that they are still virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:13 AM
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Those women wouldn’t want him because he was a virgin, but rather in spite of his virginity. His virginal status wouldn’t boost him, it just wouldn’t hamper the guy enough. He’d have more women wanting him if he just lied. And of course you’d have to use the “perfect looking guy” here for a move like that to work💀
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:43 PM
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What about the concept of male virginity? The fact most women want nothing to do with male virgins? Do you have a thoughtful nuanced take on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:15 PM
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I definitely don’t think you’re lying. But your views are so rare that they really don’t matter to us. Like we’re telling you the majority of women we deal with do not like male virgins. Just because you do does not negate our lived experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:13 PM
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You lie lol, put on a persona like you get mad pussy. That’s it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:07 PM
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France sounds based asf. I wish it was that simple in the states, unfortunately both genders push conflicting expectations, unrealistic expectations and general toxicity. Shame too
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:17 PM
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Two faces indeed, that both genders reinforce. There is not pressure for a woman to lose her virginity. However, there is pressure for her to keep it. Which is why male promiscuity is not the same as female promiscuity. Women uphold an expectation that the men they date be able to be promiscuous if they want. The reality is that a male, especially a young male, that has the ability to be promiscuous will often be promiscuous lol. Which is the paradox in this. Men simply want a woman who isn’t pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:26 PM
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Personally, I don’t give two shits about virginity. I’ve had a good amount of partners and that shit has nowhere near the weight it did when I was a teen. Currently the girl I’m talking to is a virgin, but that literally has no effect, positive or negative, on how I view her. I don’t care about being her “first”, I’ve already been another woman’s first and that literally didn’t change anything for us. Anyhoo, I just think there are clear double standards that men and women display in the case of…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:58 PM
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It’s obvious why most dudes here struggle You literally did it right here. What’s “obvious” about why they struggle? The fact they have views on a reddit sub you don’t like? What does their views have to do with their sexual/romantic success? Plenty of terrible men have plenty of sex and romantic options all the time. You’re saying “haha you’re an incel because of your views” when plenty of men have these exact same views and get laid. How about just keep the whole “you don’t get sex because you…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:58 PM
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I already stated my first girlfriend lied about being a virgin, and I later found out from others that she wasn’t. I haven’t been dating seriously for a while now so I haven’t experienced it since then. Not that I even care enough to ask
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:50 PM
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This is what I’ve seen from my own personal life as well as what I’ve seen women say on social media. Everytime this discussion has come up in real life the women said they’d just lie or “how would he find out?”. On social media it’s the same thing lol, if a woman thinks she’ll lose a good man over her past she’ll lie about her past in order to get that relationship. Because they know the moment the truth of their past is known to the man, he won’t find her as desirable. Hell my first girlfriend…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:33 PM
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“But not me ladies haha. I used lavender scented face wash, use cocoa butter body creme, exfoliating body wash and wash my ass everyday. Please fuck me🥺” Congrats, you do the bare minimum. Plenty of men don’t and still get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:14 PM
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Pardon my french, but this is horseshit lol. Telling folks you’re “saving for your wife” will maybe get you a few awws, but that’s about as positive an outcome that can come from that. What most likely happens is, you two are vibing, and then somehow the conversation of bodycount comes up, you tell her you’re a virgin, and the whole dynamic changes for the worse. Ask any man out here about whether or not he’s lied about his virginity to a woman. I can guarantee you, with mortgage-backed securiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:12 PM
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Men only struggle in dating if they’re unattractive(the majority of these men) or display acute levels of social awkwardness. The views one display on a reddit sub do not determine whether or not they are successful in dating. You’re doing the whole thing where you paint sexually unsuccessful men as bad people, whilst putting successful men on a pedestal, regardless of whether or not those successful are even good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:46 PM
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There are so many women who can “fuck any dude they want” because men will literally fuck anything. That reality speaks nothing to how those men value her. There are loads of street walkers out there that are desperate for relationships, desperate for intimacy, desperate for love. Just waiting for a “good man” to save them from the streets. And they’ll certainly lie if they feel their past will stop them from being in a relationship with a good man
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:42 PM
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If women didn’t overwhelmingly select for “fuck bois” most men wouldn’t see that as a viable strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:39 PM
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There’s a difference between valuing something and being indifferent towards it. Most men would be indifferent towards a female virgin while most women would be disgusted by a male one, or atleast creeped out
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:24 PM
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We are literally discussing the objective reality that virgin men are not seen the same as virgin women. That women by and large do not want anything to do with virgin men whereas men don’t have as much as a problem. Throwing phrases around like “pity party” isn’t an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:22 PM
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Ah so the virgin guy has to be a “weird guy” in your mind to justify the clear cognitive dissonance you’re displaying right now
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:20 PM
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She won’t “struggle” there just might be a few men scared away by the fact she’s a virgin. Nowhere near the same reaction women would have to a 28 year old male virgin, who’d get laughed out of the room. Please, just accept the fact that things are different, and your gender plays a definite role in why they’re different. It’s not always just men bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:42 AM
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As a man, the moment you tell a woman you’re a virgin whatever image she had of you in her mind shatters. Suddenly you’re not as cool, suddenly you’re not that hot, suddenly you might even be creepy. 16 year old me realized that pretty quickly. And I ended up lying about it so I would be on equal footing with every other guy and not talk myself out of pussy. Women not liking male virgins is a real thing that a lot of them perpetuate. Just look at the first insult women go to when they want to hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:37 AM
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You are not the average woman. Most women will not touch a virgin guy. This is why guys lie all the time about being virgins. Hell many girls will never know they took a guys virginity, because admitting to something like that makes you less attractive in most women’s eyes. And this is a fact a reality all men know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:33 AM
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Those are included in the DLC pack
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:14 AM
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“Normal” often times belies at least some dynamic like this. Whether it be a “hoe phase” followed by settling down with a less physically attractive man, or outright cuckolding it’s still the same
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:30 PM
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Used for sex? Or desired on a mainly sexual basis? It’s not black and white. We just want our gfs to feel like we’re hot from the moment they see us. Not after debating with themselves whether we’re even hot to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:28 PM
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It’s for society’s benefit. For the benefit of both men and women. Men, to shield their ego’s. Women, to find men who still think “personality”(cough money) is an important quality in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:25 PM
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Definitely more than just “prettier than a monkey”. You forgot 6ft+, great hair, great jawline, small waist etc
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:22 PM
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Well sure, I wish more men wouldn’t be butthurt dweebs about the fact women like fucking attractive men. I wish more women would he truthful about how physical attraction can trump all other metrics when it comes to getting with a woman. I wish y’all would be more truthful about just how much physical attraction plays in whether you like a guy or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:21 PM
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That’s literally the same thing, except most men can’t even do that. Atleast we are honest about this tho, like deadass honest. Y’all wanna continue this sort of image of women being the “less shallow” sex when it simply isn’t true. And Af/bb is a prime example of that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:18 PM
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Holy shit thats insane lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:57 PM
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Often “worse” in the personality department but definitely not worse in the looks department. The one department many men are insecure about after personality didn’t do jack shit for them. Af/bb might as well be true because we know all to well how women compromise on personality traits if the guy is attractive, particularly in young adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:56 PM
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If you were 6’6 instead of 5’6 she would’ve stayed
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:52 AM
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6’6 Hmm yea it totally just the self improvement bro
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:50 AM
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It’s toxic, and annoying. Just another layer to the enigmatic thought processes of women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:46 AM
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But that’s what we care about femme. We don’t care about your particular criteria of what it means to be “valued”. We care about how we want to be valued. Since traits like “personality and ‘ability to provide’” don’t particularly benefit most men for the first 20-30 years of our life, we come to a realization that visceral attraction is the “true” way to be valued. Since personality and providership are useless to for average man until like 30, those men constantly losing out to more attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:43 AM
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Tinder is like, the main way to meet people nowadays with everything locked down. Literally everyone is on tinder now, it’s like social media but for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:38 AM
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There’s plenty of women in this very thread that keep pushing the “women are different” card over and over again. Something about “needing more” than just physical attractiveness to want a guy. You can see how this is a bit confusing for men who don’t get any at all right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:37 AM
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Sureee, except all of the times me and many other men on this sub have seen women visibly drooling over incredibly attractive men. But sure, it never happens, totally isn’t real, a complete falsehood. It’s like the matrix, it’s all a lie, our perception of reality is false. Yours is right, etc etc etc lmaoo. Spare us, y’all are just like us, but just for an incredibly small portion of men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:26 AM
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Some men are sex addicts, some men just really like having sex. Others have low libido, other’s don’t like the empty post nut feeling from smashing a girl you’re not that into
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:41 AM
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I was finna say, this not normal😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:37 AM
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This is a bit more than just “being an adult”, this is drama, this is baggage
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:38 AM
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Most men would rather stay away from this tentative arrangement
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 02:55 AM
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It doesn’t matter if its good but your looks are average
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:44 PM
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I’m laughing so hard rn
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:42 PM
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It’s truly a wonderful thing isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:39 PM
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Anytime someone starts a statement with “so…”, it’s about to be some dumb shit
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:32 PM
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I imagine life would be a whole lot simpler for me if I was gay lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:32 PM
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That’s a bs excuse don’t listen to him lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:30 PM
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That’s easy to say when you don’t have the social pressure of constantly investing money into the courtship process. It’s easy for you to simply see this as just some fun flippant thing, because you have no material stake in it past your physical presence. It’s like playing poker with friends for fun, vs for money. When you’re playing for fun(free) you’re focused on just having fun, when you’re playing for money however, you’re focused on winning something. You’re focused on having fun too of co…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:03 AM
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What you’re talking about is a trick lmao. A man who spends money on women, just cause. Sex is on the table but is not at all expected because he just likes spending the money. Most men do not want to be tricks, nor are they financially irresponsible, or financially viable enough to do shit like that. If I’m going on a date, the expectation is to have fun, and I’ll pay without the thought of sex even entering my mind till the very end. But if I get ghosted, or nothing comes of it in the future I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 10:00 PM
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Looks>Personality is a phenomena all men know far too well. Even when the world tells us differently. Men and women are the same when it comes to attraction with a little bit of nuance. We aren’t that different lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 09:55 PM
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This, just stop the cap. I just want them to be honest about how they are
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 09:44 PM
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You cannot force a man to appreciate what you value in him, if he doesn’t value it himself. Especially if that “value” produced nothing for him for the first 20-30 years of his life. It’s like love languages. You might have a love language of gift giving, but your partner might have one completely different. It is imperative on you to understand what your partner’s love language is. Same as it is to understand what your partner wants to be appreciated for. Not you projecting what you want someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 09:40 PM
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Dude you are SPITTING right now lmaoo. My God this is eloquent
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 09:36 PM
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That’s what your post is implying lol. Merry Christmas
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 04:16 PM
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Look I agree with you, if you think you can trade dates in for sex tokens just don’t date. Just felt you should say it straight up, otherwise idiots like him won’t ever draw the connection. The game is the game, charge it to the game and keep it pushing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:38 AM
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Aye fam, @ me next time😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:29 AM
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Hmm, now that I think about it I do!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:25 AM
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If you are “hoping to feel differently” about a guy you’re about to go on a date with please just do everyone a favor and stay home lmaoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:24 AM
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This is setting himself up for abject failure and you know it lol. Not very intellectually honest right now, how about you stop being facetious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:22 AM
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And this is exactly why it is good to be a high-N man
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 12:42 AM
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At it’s core, this problem is created by the fact women only find a handful of men attractive. At the very least in the context of online dating. This bottlenecks the amount of sexual encounters women have to a few men. These few men, understandably don’t settle and have sex and intimacy with as many women as they want. You’re asking these men to settle with one woman, for the greater good of society, but in the same breath state that women have a “nature” that can’t be compromised? Poor rebecca…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 08:43 PM
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Certain women treat dating an average man like it’s testicular cancer lol. And then complain that dating is “hard”. Ma’am you make it hard for yourself since you can’t just enjoy life like a normal person. They insist on dating only instagram male models and see no possible problem with it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:02 PM
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I am not speaking about any qualitative analysis of how men currently are or how they act. I am simply pointing out the very real, tangible material reality that women have the power in dating and sex. It’s annoying hearing them constantly complain about the fact they can’t find the man of their standards (standards which exclude 99% of men), when the game is literally stacked in their favor. They literally make the current rules for the game and still complain. The fact that a particular woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:52 PM
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The steroid look isn’t particularly attractive. Atleast from what I’ve been told by women. I come from a family of athletes and I build muscle super easily. Think runningback build. I’ve noticed I got more attention when I leaned out and reduced my muscle size. Plus I look better in clothes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:15 PM
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In the context of sex and dating? Yes, they are lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:18 AM
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I stated in clear words why. They have the monopoly on sex and intimacy. They decide who gets it and who doesn’t, they have incredible power and privilege when it comes to sex. Therefore, if they want to see an actual material change in the way men act, they have to change first. No amount of men changing will change the current landscape of dating, since women are the ones that mold it for the most part. The amount of men that have even a fraction of the power they have sexually are very small.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 08:52 PM
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Yep, and it certainly won’t change anything if every young attractive man suddenly decided to start settling down. These women would still have the same standards that exclude the majority of men from their dating pool. The onus is on them to change, since they have the majority of the power in the smp. More power, more responsibility. Not on the men that happened to win the genetic lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 07:17 PM
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Bro you are really living up to your name rn. I’m not gonna feel bad for a woman with astronomical physical standards that cant find her prince charming. Its her fault and no one else’s. Imma tell that young man who’s slaying poon and living off of the deluded women to keep doing him, get paid young playa get paid. It’s not his fault he doesn’t wanna settle down, just as much as it isn’t women’s fault they don’t wanna settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 04:18 PM
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If she’s still fucking me? Don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:17 PM
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ACAB, good shit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:12 PM
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Because it “feeds our ego” or sumn like that. Like life don’t humble us enough
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:10 PM
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Lmaooo, imagine having someone talk about themselves endlessly, then tell you you’re amazing without you even telling them your passions, or what you’re deeply interested in. All in a bid to get in your pants. I need my boys to have better game😭
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:29 PM
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Yep, that’s a question with an answer you will not find on reddit. You’d need quite a bit of money to start research into this topic
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:25 PM
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Yea I know, I’ve read it lol. Just making a joke, it’d be like a prequel to Brave New World set in our time, showing how capitalism and the current world we live in gave rise to that type of world.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:22 PM
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Yea, it’s a sad dilemma we are put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:21 PM
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Damn you ain’t have to expose men like this. But you’re completely right. Dudes complain about women wanting them for material things whilst overtly advertising those material things in hope of getting a woman. Doesn’t make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:05 AM
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It sure is, depending on communication. Don’t assume things and you won’t set yourself up to get hurt. Always be upfront and ask direct questions from the person before intimacy happens
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 04:03 PM
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You are valued for something too simple. I am valued on a complex basis where if I am lacking in even one thing it could jeopardize my success in life. Would you rather be have a test with only one question, or a test with 50 questions where you have to get atleast 90% to pass?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 03:44 PM
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The only thing I don’t like about radfems is how they completely ignore, poor, disenfranchised, socially isolated men and instead use men that oppress all of society as a representation of all men. The men that oppress you are not the average guy you see on the street, unless that average man overtly uses his status as a man to harm you in some way. The only way I can think of is physically. All other ways in which men oppress you on a material level are generally done by a small group of men at…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 03:39 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 03:27 PM
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Idris Elba for me personally
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 07:42 AM
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Designer babies and surgery being more available and better. Except the vast majority of human beings’ material conditions will have decreased to the point the surgery will only be affordable to a small class. Brb gonna write a sci-fi novel.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 12:46 AM
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I agree, if you simply want the physical release from sex just stick to masturbation. No need to put a poor woman through trash sex to boost your ego
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 06:09 PM
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Nope, you can love your partner and still have problems with their inconsistencies. It doesn’t mean you’ll end the relationships, simply that you’ll start to question how much you actually mean to them, regardless of if you like how they’re treating you now. It’s a simple, reasonable human emotion. Especially if the acts your partner was doing for another was relatively recent, such as in the last relationship they had. Just because some humans see things as different from you, doesn’t mean they…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:21 PM
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You’re telling men, what the overwhelming majority if them see sex as. Masturbation is not satisfactory for a large number of men, otherwise they would stick to that and never chase women. If that were true the term “dry spell” would never exist, the term “virgin” wouldn’t hold the negative connotation it does, “body count” and all of these other sexual terms wouldn’t make sense. Because you masturbated right? You had sex bud. Except that doesn’t make sense lol. Anyhoo, have fun telling men what…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:16 PM
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This, dudes have their whole reality shaken up and immediately hate all women for eternity
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:03 PM
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Y’all cap as if that wouldn’t make you feel some type of way. As if you wouldn’t question your value in his eyes. Sure, you definitely would just shrug it off, without a second thought😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:01 PM
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You’re getting weird now lol. I’ve said it multiple times now that “sex” to most men entails atleast one other human being. The “physical release” is an important aspect yes, but the “sex” aspect is the minimum requirement in order to get that “physical release”. As in, a “physical release” without the “sex” isn’t satisfactory. Try listening to men, instead of trying to play ‘GOTCHA!’.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 04:58 PM
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Okay, but it’s the most sought after. I’m sure you can convince every sexless man to forgo human touch for their right hand. I’m sure this is a serious, well thought out position you have here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 04:33 PM
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But the sex is very much wanted, that’s the distinction. The only thing that matters here
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 02:06 AM
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Men aren’t complaining about a lack of masturbation though. There’s no complaint there and that isn’t what you think of when you think “sex”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 11:51 PM
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No Midwest, males on a large scale still have a hard time getting sex. The fact that dicks are easy to get off does not betray this reality. Any more wonderful quips? You’re lowkey starting to become my favorite person on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 06:12 PM
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Bro a guarantee you if men were as hard to get off as women we’d have even lower rates of orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:39 PM
1

Punch a wall?? Yea I don’t think that weirdo is a proper representation of men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:37 PM
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Do away with these archaic sexual and gender roles and maybe women will have better sex. I doubt they want that tho, so they can continue to have bad sex idrc
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:34 PM
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It takes no effort or skill to get a dick off. Just off your first statement alone I know you’re not speaking in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:33 PM
0

Vanilla is boring, have fun tho
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:22 PM
1

But you’re still gonna have shit sex regardless of how much he “tries” if he’s not doing what makes you feel good lol. Have fun having lackluster sex lol, not for me personally
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:19 PM
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It’s a wide spread issue lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:18 PM
1

There’s a woman in this comment section that said she doesn’t like to talk about what she likes before sex because it “ruins the fun”. I think it wouldn’t be unreasonable to say this is how a lot of women feel, having personally experienced this myself. It’s almost awkward asking a woman what she likes before sex, y’all need to speak up more and communicate yourselves. The onus should not be solely on men, this is a two way consensual activity after all
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:17 PM
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Women are different from each other tho. Some get off from clit stimulation, some need more. Some need to be in a serene environment and have their leg angled at 38° with the room temp at 72° to get off. It’s not that simple. Some of y’all don’t even know how to get yourself off, thoughtless of a man doing it for you. Some of y’all need literal military artillery on your clit to get off. It’s not as simple as you make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:10 PM
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No, you just got lucky. Pray you get lucky again lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:00 PM
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When I say “care about you” I don’t mean in the placid mundane way. I’d hope the people you hook up with care about you as a human being and respect you as such. I mean more in the relationship, deeper sort of way. As in see you as a potential life partner. Lots of women claim they don’t see the guys they hook up with casually in that sort of light. But yet, my statement above evoked a response that betrays that sentiment. In my opinion I do think the men that women hook up with casually are in …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:56 PM
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It’s the c word. A revenge fantasy if you will. Nothing else but that. If you don’t have options in your 20’s, you probably will not have many option in your 30’s, unless you put in the work. No man magically turns 30 and has women throwing themselves at him, especially if he hasn’t progressed career wise and mentally. I have serious doubts that a bunch of these dudes on this sub have what it takes to accomplish that. Yet, they cling on to this hope with all their might
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:53 PM
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Well I’d ask for what the date is because apparently I’ve traveled back to 1534. Wouldn’t be logical for me to care about such a small number of women just being real
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:47 PM
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Well I’d ask for what the date is because apparently I’ve traveled back to 1534. Wouldn’t be logical for me to care about such a small number of women just being resl
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:47 PM
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But I thought y’all only have casual sex with guys you don’t care about? I’m confused rn
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:44 PM
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Idk man, most dudes that can get nsa sex just got it like that. They have naturally desirable traits that allow them to put women they barely know at ease. There’s certainly objectively positive traits within men that can have casual sex when they want. Let’s not play.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 12:39 PM
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This^ If you’re capable of getting nsa sex on a semi-consistent basis, no need to feel like you’re the consolation. But if your girlfriend would absolutely balk at the idea of having casual sex with you, you just don’t got it like that. The other dudes tho? They had it like that, and she saw that in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 12:37 PM
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This. Logically speaking, if your girlfriend would not have had casual sex with you, while she has partaken in it with other men, you are the consolation prize. She compromised on your looks for your other qualities (ahem, money and security).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:07 AM
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Most people date for atleast some sort of external validation lol. Let’s not act as if that is a crime against humanity or something
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:04 AM
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What typa question is this lol. “Society” doesn’t “condition” women to sleep with Chadicus thundercockus. They already want to. And when they want a relationship they’ll compromise on attractiveness to have a guy around who loves and cares for them. It’s that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:02 AM
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But a lot of y’all do, and openly admit your standards are higher for casual guys. Which means there are attraction hierarchies in place when it comes to sexual/romantic relationships. Idrc that much about this, but let’s not play like this isn’t a valid perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:00 AM
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You shouldn’t want a woman that thinks like that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 04:13 PM
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Honestly, if she doesn’t want you because she’s judging you for a coffee date, she isn’t worth it. Simple as that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 04:12 PM
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Yea well it’s a two way street. Broke college girls expecting broke college guys to give them a grown-man-with-a-good-job experience. And the fact that there are guys willing to do it puts pressure on other guys to step up their game, even if it means financial insolvency.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 04:11 PM
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Having grown up in tough situations myself, I feel for dude. It’s taken a lot for me to open up about the shit that happened to those close to me. But yea I hope you were a catalyst for him to process his feelings in a healthy way and to be more open with them, first to s therapist, and then to his loved ones. It is an immense struggle tho, particularly as a man since we’re told we don’t really matter, and have that reinforced during our formative years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 04:07 PM
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What difference is a sex-bot to a human prostitute? Not much to those who feel like using them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 04:01 PM
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“Is she’s not bothering, why should I?” back and forth ad nauseum
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:07 PM
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Okay but you don’t get to speak for all women lol. If we can’t do rounds like fight night I don’t want it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:36 PM
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More responsive without a doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:32 PM
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The guy who “behaves better” is often the guy she doesn’t want lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:31 PM
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Yes, that is bad lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:30 PM
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They cappin hard asf😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:29 PM
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The red pill simply takes advantage of these lost humans. And by God there is a lot of them. I hope all of these people heal and actually date people who like them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:27 PM
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That’s absolutely terrifying
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:40 PM
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Amen
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:39 PM
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Can’t say the same for a lot of human beings currently in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:32 PM
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I agree, now of course I might judge her on who she allowed in her if that information is freely available.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:26 PM
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It might not work for you but some women like marathon sessions. Especially with men they’re really attracted to. If u gotta dry cooch jus say dat
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:03 AM
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That’s kinda h…nvm lemme not expose myself
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:43 AM
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Circumcision has a far more negative affect on ED than “death-grip” lol. But I’m sure you’ll have your little boy snipped if you ever have one
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:41 AM
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You realize there’s more to sex than piv right? And piv in addition to other things can most certainly have a woman orgasm. Just vanilla piv isn’t enough in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:40 AM
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Thank you for this lol, I was like damn girl don’t like a marathon man nomo? Sounds like someone who doesn’t have sex or actively dislikes it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:40 AM
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Lmao you don’t got a dick so you don’t know what it means to have one. Some men can jack off multiple times daily/weekly and have absolutely no problem getting off. Blaming it solely on porn is a cop out
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:38 AM
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This is why you break up/cheat on her the moment she starts giving different energy😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:40 PM
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Not at the expense of their mental health lol. God you people are terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:31 PM
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No analogy justifies sociopathic behavior lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:30 PM
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You’re defending manipulative behavior wherein someone strings along another human being, knowing in their heart they don’t want that human being. You and I both know by the time a woman thinks “is this relationship salvageable?” It’s over. Stop defending bad-actors If you have doubts, end it. Don’t waste anybody’s time or energy with your manipulative bs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:28 PM
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A relationship is not a job. And it is telling that you would compare one to a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:26 PM
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Because more often than not that “spontaneous thought” spells the end of the relationship. “Making a well thought out decision” does not include thinking about your partners feelings, only how much you would benefit/lose from breaking up with your partner. Meanwhile that whole time your partner is in the dark about the problems in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:15 PM
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Which is incredibly selfish to the partner you’re soon to break up with
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:08 PM
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It would be met with indifference in 90% of cases. They’re just assholes who want to have the blame solely on their partner for not “fixing” problems they wouldn’t even acknowledge were trying to be fixed. Which is why I always break up the moment I see her starting to act differently towards me. Because if she’s already thinking about ending things, no amount of me trying to save it will be sufficient. I’d just be furthering my own pain, for her ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:04 PM
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This is so manipulative lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:01 PM
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So you string guys along, become emotionally unavailable, essentially fake a relationship while you get your ducks in a row. And you’re trying to make it seem like this is some legitimate thing and totally not something a sociopath does
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:00 PM
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BOTH HAVE EGO. Wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 04:58 PM
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A woman speaking on men’s business, not surprised at all lol. She definitely has a better understanding of emasculation than actual men with lived experiences do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 04:58 PM
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Nobody gives this advice anymore, it’s about communicating with your partner and breaking up if you can’t. Maybe 20 years ago, but not today.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 04:56 PM
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I didn’t insinuate there was blame to be had for anybody
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:33 PM
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I don’t think this is the sub for this lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:56 PM
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The majority of women who lose their virginity are not tradcons so I don’t even know why you brought it up. Lmao do you want applause?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:55 PM
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I hope you’re agreeing with me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:41 PM
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It basically posits that the distribution of sex is unevenly distributed between a top percentage of men, and a majority percentage of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:15 PM
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Virginal women rarely want virginal men lol. Most girls lose their virginity to men who have already had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:59 PM
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I don’t care for the most part as long as the person is compatible with me and can communicate effectively, is attracted to me, wants to me happy and dearly loves me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:18 AM
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21M, 6 partners. There’s not a particular number or cutoff I would say but the higher it got the more I’d question whether she was LTR material. Simply off the energy that who has the energy to have sex with that many different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:14 AM
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Having something they are not entitled to. They’d nuke a whole relationship cuz their girl doesn’t wanna do one position. Truly sick individuals
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:06 AM
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I smell weakness in you Do you people talk like this in real life? LMAOOOOO
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:56 AM
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“It shows her lack of attraction to me” my guy she is literally there ready to suck your dick. What more do you want? I’m losing brain cells over this particular topic lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:03 PM
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Woah woah, some men legitimately need sex-work in order to get some, don’t shit on them. Better they use that avenue to get intimacy than lie and bully their way into pants. You’re adding to the reasons these men do what they do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:01 PM
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Apparently rp men really like sticking their franklins in stinky holes. Incredible, that this topic is the downfall of rp. Women have so much power
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:59 PM
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Like she’s literally on your bed, butt ass nekked ready to do the dirty, but you’re mad you can’t stuck it in her bum???? Because some imaginary 6’1782” dude with 9000 abs got to do it? Do you hear yourself? If you were really this cool amazing “red-pill” dude, you wouldn’t be online crying about this particular woman. You’d just find a woman who does it for you. This is what no pussy does to a mfer
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:58 PM
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If she is having sex with you how is she not attracted to you? She just doesn’t want to do THAT particular act. Do you want to do that act, do you think that act is integral to a relationship with a woman? Then break up with her. Otherwise, accept that she doesn’t want to do it. Hell, I like head. The moment a girl tells me she doesn’t do head I cut my losses and keep it moving, because that’s my personal standard. Nowhere in that do I think “well she probably did head before, but not for me” be…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:55 PM
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It’s greek letters, get therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:04 PM
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Because republican men have mental deficiensies and are more likely to adhere to RP-like thinking. As well as republicans generally being worse human beings than any other political affiliation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:03 PM
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Literally this, they’re mad that their girlfriend had sex with someone else. That’s it and that’s all it’s ever been. Instead of living in the present and presently enjoying the relationship you’d rather get hung up over some old shit. Beyond me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:01 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:41 PM
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I mean idk, the fact in it of itself that white women were given immediate suffrage kinda leans to the idea it was top down. Most major political reforms that happen are almost always initially green-lit by the ruling class to satiate the masses. Almost nothing is done out of pure good-will. The only type of social change that happens without the ruling classes permission happens via revolution. And I honestly don’t remember any time in the US where a true social revolution has ever happened
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:40 PM
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Wait for the guy that has the whole package. Because all you’ll be doing is leading the guy on who doesn’t, because he doesn’t reach your standards. You cannot negotiate attraction, and that lack of attraction will seep it’s way into the relationship over time. And it won’t end well for either of you, particularly the guy who put all of this effort and money into keeping you happy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:30 PM
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A relationship with you isn’t a “price to pay” unless you’re just a generally insufferable person to be around. If multiple men have felt that way about you, it might mean that you need to look a bit inward. Common denominator
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:29 PM
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I dunno, my last relationship ended because of lack of communication on her part and I can easily see that being an experience for many other men. It is a trope, but let’s not say it’s “nonsensical” when it happens pretty often. I’m expected to read up on incredibly minute details everytime I date a new girl. It gets exhausting over time, that in it of itself can breed resentment. And from my experience, if she feels like she has to lay it blunt to you what she likes, it cheapens things to her. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:26 PM
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You act like sex isn’t a mutually enjoyable experience. You act like you and everyone here hasn’t had sex because they wanted to, in that moment. Now of course, sex with the average man is terrible, I will say that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:23 PM
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Business date? Gross, exactly what I fear if I’m still on the dating scene as I get older. But if it works for you it works for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:21 PM
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Yea, he’s blaming feminism for the actions of Neoliberalism
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:16 PM
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Susan B Anthony wasn’t the only suffragette, and she completely ignored black women and other WPOC’s when seeking suffrage for women. History is complex and one notable white woman shouldn’t get all the credit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:16 PM
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Yup, been saying appearance the most valuable thing as a candidate for bein someone partner
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 04:16 AM
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This is rapey as hell and you need help
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:16 AM
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C(ock)gnitive b(all)ehavioral t(orture)herapu
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:15 AM
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This lol, all of these nonsense manipulative strategies when you could simply leave these women alone
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:12 AM
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Very realistic comment here, if you aren’t compatible, or she isn’t doing what you want, cut her off and find someone who will. Simple as that, and you won’t look like a butthurt weirdo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:10 AM
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But there is a clear difference between regularly doing something and only once. Not that your point isn’t any less valid
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:06 AM
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It’s been proven time and time again on this very subreddit, that women find a man more attractive, or atleast feel more pressure to compete, when the man is wanted by other women. There was a thread on this very subreddit, for all to see on Al Gore’s internet, where women admitted to this being true. Social proof or something like that. The fact that Narnia would be offended/perplexed by the notion that the man she is attracted to, doesn’t have options, attests to this concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 11:13 PM
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Why would I feel offended? My comment was bringing to light the obvious nature of men being more violent. That’s it lol. Mad asl rn😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 11:09 PM
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Nah I hear it all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 11:07 PM
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Did a strike a nerve or something? Lmaooo you’re pressed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 11:04 PM
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Breaking News: The gender with more physical strength and more testosterone has more within their ranks that resort to violence. Truly an astonishing development.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 05:50 PM
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Okay, but I’m not gonna ignore blatant disrespect from a partner if they treating me differently than another partner. This is contingent on me somehow knowing the different dynamics if course.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:11 PM
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Easier said than done
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 06:29 AM
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Thanks for the detailed nuanced post. I definitely agree with you that the suppression of female sexuality plays a part in why I, many men and many women feel the way we all do. I just simply cannot get behind the idea that women aren’t naturally more picky, thereby narrowing the field of attractiveness for men. Throughout history more women have procreated than men. I believe that as women continue to explore their own sexuality and as female sexuality is suppressed less, this trend will contin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 04:06 AM
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I’m an asshole who has enjoyed debating random strangers online since I was in elementary school. That’s it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:16 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:16 AM
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No they don’t, and throughout history they haven’t as well. A significantly smaller portion of men have procreated vs women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:14 AM
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You wanna tell men how they feel so badly. Please rest
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:12 AM
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Did you just say scat play? LMAOOOOOOOK
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:09 AM
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Much like Guts does in Berserk. You can use that fuel for a while, but it will ultimately consume you. Be cautious of this and cool down over time. Otherwise you’ll be on a reddit dating site creating fantastical narratives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:06 AM
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Congrats? I’ve been in a good amount of relationships too. Doesn’t change what I said. Dating is only getting harder particularly for Gen Z youts who have to compete with men 30 miles away from them on dating sites. The stats show that as well. You gotta be the best of the best to have any sort of freedom of choice in the dating market. Much like American capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:02 AM
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So do you agree or disagree with the notion that women have a more narrow view of what an attractive male is? Because as a man, a black man at that, I certainly feel pressure to mold myself a certain way; low bodyfat %, certain haircut, certain shoes to wear etc. Basically, I gotta dress and act a certain way because otherwise I wouldn’t get any attention from the opposite sex. I feel women have far more freedom to act and dress however they want, because men’s standards for attractiveness are j…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:28 PM
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I never said every guy with women around him is more attractive. Just that it is better to be the womanizer, than the man who wants a connection with just one woman. Because that’s what y’all select for, whether intentionally or not. You can still very well put all your eggs in one basket as a man, just that it is a better strategy to notch a high n-count, and assume traits that are attractive to large swathes of women rather than one specific woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:18 PM
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If I said women on average are more shallow in terms of physical attractiveness, or that they are less forgiving of physical flaws in men, one women indicating the contrary doesn’t change the fact that the stats show otherwise. Women for the most part are more uniform in what they find attractive in men. It’s been stated on this sub before that women find a man more attractive when he is around other women. That is to say, there is a narrower window of attractive traits in men. Height being a pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:16 PM
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But they literally do. Y’all have garbage tier standards when the guy is attractive enough. Maybe that changes as you get older(hopefully) but I’ve seen many a woman who has let a man fuck her life up because he looks good. That’s literally a saying people use when they see someone incredibly attractive. “I’d let them fuck my life up”. And a lot of y’all take that saying to the heart lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:18 PM
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You’re using different words to convey the literal same idea I am. Whether it be that your standard are just so otherworldly and awesome that the guy you get with (obviously) will attract other women as well, or that you base your standards of your man off of how other women see him, it’s all the same thing. It’s already been established before that a man become more attractive when he’s seen with other women so imma lean towards my own interpretation. We can agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:15 PM
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Okay, well I’ll stick to my BP interpretation. Ocham’s Razor indicates mine to be far more likely of being correct than yours. All of these differing variables you’re trying to ineffectively explain all come to the same conclusion my simple interpretation does. Women, are more shallow in the realm of physical attraction than men because they have higher standards for a literal superficial trait. Add on the fact a lot of those traits are immutable and thusly cannot be improved. It’s that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:12 PM
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This is why it’s desirable to be a high n-count man or a man capable of high n-counts. Rather than a virginal man looking for a good connection with only one specific woman. Because this right here is how some women view the men they find attractive. He has to be attractive to other women in order to be attractive, otherwise he isn’t. He can’t be attractive in his own right. That’s how it works right? Mindfuckery right there
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:09 PM
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So you disagree with the sentiment that height plays an incredible role in the attractiveness of a man? Just categorically false. Every woman, especially in my age range seem to have a height fetish, and it’s increasingly gotten more and more extreme over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:01 PM
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Sure, if they could. But they can’t, and are still far more truthful about the standards they have and what they find attractive in a partner. It’s laughable for someone to say they don’t select for some trait, when that trait is incredibly rare in their dating pool and they somehow coincidentally find partners that have those traits. Simply put you can’t say this or that doesn’t matter, and then your partner selection betrays that statement. Just own it, who’s gonna stop you? Some random weirdo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:57 PM
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Yea, certainly a coincidence when a woman dates men that all happen to be in the 10–15% of the male population, just on height alone. Totally a coincidence, totally other factors at play.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:51 PM
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Lmaooo what? Almost every relationship that ends is somehow the guys fault. Somehow, some way whether it be that she cheated, “fell out of love” etc it’s the guy’s fault. Hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:48 PM
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You’re forgetting that you’re far more liable to project positive qualities and manufacture “compatibility” with the much more attractive man. That is to say guy who looks like a six would literally have to be perfect in every way, with even one mistake making his lose out to 9. That is a very important point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:44 PM
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Funnily enough, that’s exactly how a man has to look in order to be “above-average”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:40 PM
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It all started with Reagan
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:37 PM
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Both of the parties are to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:37 PM
1

So you basically want a unicorn man who’s simultaneously comfortable in his masculinity, mature etc etc, but also a libertarian? Good-luck with that🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:34 PM
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You just proved my point. You can be promiscuous yet picky
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:14 PM
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You can be promiscuous and picky. There are relatively limitless options for intimacy fro attractive women. Very easy to have a high body count where all of the dudes were incredibly good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:08 PM
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Just like women, men are a diverse group. I would say men are more likely, on average, to exclude emotions from sex, but sex is also a lot less in our heads than y’all. A woman has to be comfortable, in the right head space etc for sex to be enjoyable for her. Meaning sex takes on a more emotional aspect for her. But no, I wouldn’t say every man out here is just a mindless sex drone
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:02 PM
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I’m dating to have fun lol. There’s no rush on my part. If something serious comes from it does, but I’m not particularly looking for anything. And honestly, if I was dating for sex, what’s the issue with that? As long as I don’t expect sex or feel entitled to it, there’s no problem. Not every single person I go on a date with will end up being my life partner
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:00 PM
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If a man is promiscuous, he is either a dumpster diver with absolutely disgusting standards, or he’s a desirable man with a high sex drive. More than likely he’s the latter if you’re considering him for an LTR. Because, getting to the point of sex for a man, is exponentially more effort than sex for a woman. You have to be an attractive man to get a high n-count, and that’s why a lot of you simply don’t care. It’s a complex scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 10:58 PM
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You’re victim blaming. You could be an absolute queen to the man you love, and he could still cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:16 PM
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You can’t be a misogynist and a modern man. If the woman I’m dealing with shows she’s internally misogynistic, hopefully I am aware enough to simply cut her off. So I won’t even need to assess her through a “traditional” male lens. And my comment refers to the whole courtship process. If we’ve been on 3 dates now and you have put no effort in at all during the course of it, I’m just looking to get sex at that point and to atleast get some benefit from it. Sunken cost fallacy but it is what it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:15 PM
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Yea, but rape isn’t done because of an uncontrollable sex-drive. Plenty of people have high sex drives and don’t rape or do shitty things to get sex. Masturbation is a thing. All of those things stem from mental illness and deviant personality disorders, not the inherent nature of male sexuality. Please refrain from demonizing male sexuality. Women still by and large like to have sex, just not as much as men. Yet more women are having sex, which leads to the logical conclusion that they are simp…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:49 PM
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An attractive man could be neurotic too and still get sex. Plenty of insecure, controlling men have girlfriends and get sex all the time. If personality was the defining metric as to whether or not a man gets sex, so many women wouldn’t be complaining about how men are trash and men this men that. Personality isn’t the basis of whether or not the biological act takes place because individuals can easily fake their personality or simply put on a show. In fact, I’ll go further and state that many …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:42 PM
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To me, until you show otherwise, you’re an attractive human being with whom I am pursuing a relationship with. You are not “someones life partner” to me until you show that. And if you assume a position where I have to do all the work and you do none, the courtship process will be pigeonholed to whether or not you value me enough to have sex with me. Because you have restricted every other metric for me to assess my value towards you other than that. I know if you’re investing yourself if I can …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:37 PM
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Women generally do not mind the fact that men detach sex from emotions. In fact it’s a preferable trait in a man. Men, however, have differing standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:27 PM
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Women as a whole don’t really mind men having a high n-count or being capable of doing so. In fact it makes them more attractive. If y’all want to change the narrative on this subject, have the same standards for n-count. Because as a man, it’s in your best interest to rack up a high bodycount cuz that’s what y’all select for anyhow.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:25 PM
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Being “respectful” of your partner has no bearing on whether or not they will cheat. No amount of respecting my partners past and loving them will change whether or not they cheat. Because cheating is an act that can’t be influenced or blamed by the cheating victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:23 PM
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Notice the degrading language she used to describe sexually unsuccessful men. And you winder why guys see sex, especially sex with minimal effort as so gratifying. Because of language like this, that places sexually successful men on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:20 PM
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You literally ovulate 12 weeks out of the year and from what I’ve heard from my woman friends they get incredibly horny. Like more horny than guys. They just choose to have sex with the same types of guys
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:18 PM
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Well this conversation has revolved around men taking the “traditional” role and being the only active participant in the courtship process. If you do not actively participate as well, whether monetarily or effort wise, sex is going to be the only barometer for the man to assess whether or not he is of value to you. Now of course I wasn’t speaking to you and you only. It was more generally to the type of woman who adds nothing to the dating process. Those are the types that shouldn’t complain wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:15 PM
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If you add nothing to the courtship process and do not invest anything yourself into that process, I am going to assume all you have to offer is sex. Because you have not shown otherwise. That is a reasonable conclusion to come to and it’s incredibly manipulative to try and label that viewpoint as “transactional”. Incredibly hypocritical as well since you yourself demand the man put all of these things into that courtship process to consider having a relationship with him. There are no longer co…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:11 PM
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Why are you actively hiding it lol. Is it something to be ashamed about? Something that could make your partner question their worth in your eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:12 PM
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Okay but we’re not talking about anything other than women in the context of dating. And there is far more uniformity from you guys in that area that anywhere else
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:07 PM
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You’re literally describing why so many men don’t deal with women after a certain period if sex isn’t had. Because you do absolutely nothing, provide nothing and expect everything to be catered to you. The only way to show effort in a scenario like that where you act like that is to have sex with the guy, because you sure as hell won’t pay for the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:03 PM
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Uh huh, why are you going out on dates with men, where you put absolutely no effort into those dates, whether it be planning or dating? How else do you think the guy will know if you’re interested if you have invested absolutely nothing into the dating process? If you fuck him, that’s it. It’s not about the biological act, it’s about his perception of how much you value him
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:01 PM
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Good luck getting those with power (women) to change their behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 03:54 PM
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Yea how many women you know out here planning dates, paying half etc. Sex is the main way they show “effort” lmao and that’s just the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:34 AM
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This, it’s hella annoying tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 04:53 PM
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The more they like you the less they play games
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 04:23 AM
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I only deal wit women that don’t play games lol, makes life a lot easier
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 09:58 PM
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It’s like in those shows where the main character does something completely out of line, but somehow garners the respect of his superiors. If he wasn’t the main character he would be executed on the spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 06:53 PM
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And the women you tend to deal with are also more mature, know what they want and are more likely to communicate properly lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 04:46 AM
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I have the social intelligence and know how to escalate. I’m just saying that it’s way harder than you’re giving off. It depends on the girl, depends on the environment, a shitload of variables that you have to account for near/perfectly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:22 AM
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I’m truly confused rn, how is you and him working any different from what you’re replying to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 02:45 AM
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What’s confusing about it, we all register in seconds whether or not someone we see is facially attractive. Seems pretty straightforward to me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 02:27 AM
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Here we have another individual who simultaneously wants to deconstruct gender norms and traditions, while also benefitting from those same gender norms and conditions. A truly fascinating display of cognitive dissonance
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 02:26 AM
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Because men are human beings and unfortunately cannot ignore the immense urge to…be a human being a connect with another.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 02:24 AM
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I do that a little too much😪
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 02:22 AM
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Both of those are highly assumptive and could easily lead to wrong interpretation. Doesn’t matter how socially savvy you are lol. Y’all think it’s so easy for some reason but never have to do it personally
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 02:22 AM
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No, a lot of guys are just desperate for companionship and consistent sex. You’re giving way too much credit to women here lmaooo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:16 PM
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Near-perfect was hyperbole. The main point was that the standards to be a “good partner” as a man vs being a “good partner” as a woman are simply not the same. Men have to do more work and have more standards to meet. And men also don’t openly complain about their women, unless it has to do with sex, which is a problem. But why am I wasting my time on you, you don’t deserve this nuanced thoughtful take. Goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:15 PM
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Because women don’t have to. Men will fuck anything and get googly eyes as long as she isn’t ugly or fat. That’s not a tall order at all
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:00 PM
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That’s just not true. You’re trying to post-hoc rationalize the simple fact that the masculine role requires one to be a near perfect performer, both in terms of physical presentation as well as relationship qualities in order to be viable. That is to say, for one to assume the masculine role, which most men have to assume by default (since most men are heterosexual) the standards to be viable are more stringent. That’s why men that are able to meet these standards have far more options than oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:55 PM
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That’s the whole appeal of it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:50 PM
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This, simple as that. How will you know if you’re attractive enough? If they don’t immediately call the police on you or label you a creep lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:49 PM
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Exactly, dealing with women that actually know what the fuck they want and actively take a part in the courtship process is so great you never want to deal with another type of woman again. I’m supposed to initiate, lead every interaction, lead every single escalation, read your mind, cater to every single want and whim you have, etc etc and you add nothing of substance to those interactions? At that point let’s just go our separate ways lmao we’re both grown adults I don’t wanna deal with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:46 PM
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Pretty much this, we’re expected to be mind readers. Respect boundaries but also fuck the boundaries once I want you to. Except I won’t ever be clear in any way when I want those boundaries broken. It’s so dumb and honestly degrading feeling like I have to perform like a court jester. But it is what it is. The ones with the power certainly won’t change how they act so we gotta play by the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:43 PM
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I can associate black men with basketball and jumping high, that doesn’t mean the stereotype isn’t problematic. I’d rather not have my sexual orientation reduced to what shirt and shoes I wear
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:28 AM
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It’s the homophobia for me. Damn we can’t even dress good anymore without y’all making assumptions about our sexuality🤦🏾‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:17 AM
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Totally is a foreign concept. Don’t wanna sound like the old man yelling at clouds, but social media really got us all seeing what “perfection” looks like. Whether it’s a dude with a perfect face, perfect sense of humor, perfect personality etc. And now people legit have mental battle about the people they are with because they don’t meet that perfection. Sure your boyfriend isn’t the most ambitious, good-looking, well connected guy out there. Sure he doesn’t write you 30 page letters every day …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:10 AM
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Nah, most incels are normal dudes who can’t get romantic attention. They don’t browse disgusting forums and don’t hate women. They just are bad at dating, whether it be because they aren’t attractive or have mental barriers stopping them from taking risks. Which is why it’s so harmful when the majority of insults that are readily available to attack men pertain to a man’s sexual success. It’s toxic, just as toxic as those weirdo incel dudes on forums demanding state sanctioned gfs
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:03 AM
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I’d rather not, those websites are a cesspool. They do not represent even a tiny fraction of men. Yet, people love to throw the term around flippantly to describe any comment pertaining to sex and dating that they don’t like. That’s the point I’m getting at. Grifter is another term people throw around to describe people they don’t like, even if it doesn’t apply, it’s just a filler insult word at this point. The word simply isn’t that deep anymore because it’s used for anything
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 03:56 AM
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Yea, but y’all call literally any dude who doesn’t think women are angels an incel. So please spare me. Itms gone past those batshit insane forums at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:10 PM
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I guess every man feels entitled to sex in your eyes. Because you certainly don’t seem like the type to actually weigh in nuance in your opinions. Your dismissive comment is all I need to know that. Definitely not a deranged worldview, totally normal
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 01:11 PM
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You guys are literally sexually shaming these men. Please don’t make it seem like it’s deeper than that. All a man has to do to defeat the incel allegations is get pussy, which isn’t hard. Weak
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:39 AM
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Idk man, the rising sexlessness stats beg to differ. I would most certainly prefer a non-superficial woman. You guys are the best and deserve the world :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 05:14 AM
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It’s not a crutch, it’s a requirement lol. Having 4.0 isn’t a crutch to get into Ivy league, it’s a minimum. Same here, except a lot of these women don’t offer the relationship equivalent of Ivy league education.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:48 AM
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As long as the man meet the rigorous physical attractiveness requirements
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:25 AM
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Not everyone, there are certainly women who can’t be alone but also aren’t satisfied with anything that isn’t the top percentage in their area.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:18 AM
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There’s no sense in trying to convince women with unrealistic standards that their standards are unrealistic. I just hope they leave men alone instead of making their lives hell
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:17 AM
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I guess the best way that makes logical sense to me is screening based on negative traits. So if a guy displays a red flag or a negative trait that would impact your opinion of him as loyal, you cut him off. If he’s constantly around other women, emotionally unavailable towards you, commitment-averse those should disqualify him. But that’s just my opinion, I’m some random fucker on reddit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 12:02 AM
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I wholeheartedly advocate for women that know they won’t be satisfied with average men to stay alone until(if) they find Mr. Perfect. In fact I’ll take it a step further. If you think at any point while dating someone, that you’re settling, leave them alone. Be alone until you find someone you don’t feel like you’re settling for
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:40 PM
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You tell me, you’re the woman. You have the power in dating. I don’t get to select like that so I couldn’t tell you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:39 PM
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They exist, are you selecting for them tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 04:07 PM
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Nope, they’re “immature” young women who will eventually “learn” and “mature”. Or atleast that’s what men are expected to believe when these same type of women start asking for exponentially more as they get older
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 04:06 PM
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This often times isn’t true for most men. Most men can only hope to get something from a woman if he is willing to go all in on a relationship. Very few men fit the criteria of the situation you laid out. Where possibilities are open and plentiful. Most are pigeonholed to only getting intimacy when they are 100% aiming for a relationship in the woman’s eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 12:39 AM
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If most women find the majority of men unattractive, mathematically speaking it is highly likely a lot of them are in relationships with men they don’t find that physically attractive. That is the main point you’re ignoring. Men for the most part find most women physically attractive, that is only real difference. That’s where the dynamic stems from and it’s mostly insecurity, but valid insecurity. The only logical assumption a man can have if he knows his girl did shit in the past that she won’…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 12:35 AM
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Ocham’s razor
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 12:24 AM
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Was the drug dealer good looking? Was the computer scientist good looking? There’s your answer
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 10:28 PM
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Are you male or female? Genetics also play a role but you should have pretty good face gains
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 10:27 PM
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Sheesh idk man you tell me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 07:21 PM
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The less good looking you are, the more shit tests you get lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 07:21 PM
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Type shit, mfs wanna try and categorize every aspect of human behavior into some greek letters.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 06:59 PM
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There was a post a few days ago about what women select for. The majority of the post was qualities that are commonly know to be “BB” qualities. And a lot of women in the comments were saying “yea that’s what I look for”. They continued by saying that the men chosen for these qualities are in loving relationships with women who are totally attracted to them. That’s where this comment stems from lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 06:49 PM
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Mfs use all of these words and concepts like astrology. The red-pill universe is getting more complex than star wars at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 06:43 PM
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Ah man, using the “past is the past” argument against the same people who use it the most. Comedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 06:40 PM
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This comment, unintentionally, adds to the narrative that BB men are undesirable. Which is amusing to see, when so many posters on here state BB men are totally loved by their girlfriends and totally what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 06:39 PM
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If you gained an increased sense of self and well-being from red-pill, congrats? The only thing I ask of you and men like you is to not be toxic. I too internalized many aspects of trp at a really young age after facing rejection. Stopped simping, started having more respect for myself, started working out, started getting my money up, started general self improvement. And I’ll be honest, reading red pill theories catalyzed that self-improvement for me. But once I got what I wanted, I stopped, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 06:34 PM
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So where are the good women Lmaoo you tell me man. You find one you keep her close and tight and pray she doesn’t do anything dumb. That’s all you can do. No amount of mental manipulation, gaming and all that other psycho-babble will change anything long term. Red pill goes a step further than attain looks status and money tho. It goes way further, way more than is needed. Ocham’s Razor, in the dating context. All of these different theories, a lot of which are problematic and insanely misogynis…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 06:09 PM
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Well they’re in young adulthood, like me. The age where looks are tantamount to anything else. I’m making an observation; that being that all of these standards are easily compromised when the man is good looking enough. That is all, that is my Ted Talk
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 03:28 PM
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I have no problems in dating, I understand the assignment and have curated myself in a way that fits todays standards. These standards are very real, and as a man if you want what you want out of dating, you have to look good and you have to have money. I don’t understand how this is a victim complex anymore than FDS is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 03:25 PM
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Attain looks, status and money. Only way, save for a lucky few who manage to get what they want through chance. Mistreating women and playing psychological games might get you some short term gains, but at the cost of alienating you from actual good women and having vapid soulless relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 03:23 PM
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I hope that works. Stalkers are scary asf, I would wager the majority of them are psychopaths as well
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 03:21 PM
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Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 03:20 PM
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And we can’t feel any type of way for this. Some guys have to wait years to finally be given a chance at a relationship, while the girl they’re with was having as much fun as she wanted. It’s understandable how that could possibly breed contempt. However, that’s as far as I will go with that statement
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:57 AM
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I understand that for sure, but man these experiences aren’t a lie lol. Shit is tough out here no joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:55 AM
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This this this^
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:15 AM
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If I have to have perfect skin, a great jawline, tall height, great teeth, amazing dressing style and a good deal of money in order to get a date, that’s pretty high physical standards. No way about it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:14 AM
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A stalker will stalk you regardless of whether you were nice to them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:12 AM
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Yep, the closer she is to average, the more likely she is to be a completely terrible human being. Same goes for men too. It seems that the average to above average range harbors the worst types of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:11 AM
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Sorry, but it is. If literally hundreds of thousands of men are telling you women’s physical standards are too high, as well as the data supporting this narrative, it’s probably true. You guys have insane physical standards, which is fine by me, I manage and have some success. But man, I literally have to be on top of my shit, in every single way, in order to have the success I do. Great hair, great jawline, low bodyfat, white teeth, immaculate dressing style etc. Shit is crazy to think that if …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:08 AM
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15% isn’t enough. Get down to 10% before you complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:00 AM
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It’s just a dumb and weird question. Of course most women don’t fuck every guy they match with. You could easily match with a girl and never get a response. If you’ve actually used a dating app this question would be a no brainer
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:01 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly. Some people seem to read what they want to read and see my above comment as a “she should have picked me!” statement as opposed to an insightful comment as to the mental state of young teenage boys who face constant rejection. I’m just providing context as to how all of these events bring rise to red-pill thinking. Understanding where your enemy is coming from is the most effective way to defeat their tactics. A lot of these dudes saw the objects of their desire constantl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 07:44 PM
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It’s just weird, like imagine this post is the first thing people see on this subreddit. Anyways, what do I care proceed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:45 PM
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Bro, honestly what type if question is this. I completely understand why someone would want to stay lightyears away from this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:33 PM
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Dude, you read his comment wrong. Just bow out and stop being difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:29 PM
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Those corporate suits do control society tho. Atleast American society. They manifacture consent in our media, control what ads are seen and what aren’t seen. Control what pages are shown on the front page of google, which is incredibly important since most people never look past the front page. Control aspects of our energy and climate policy, I could go on and on. Maybe not that individual suit, but like a group of zombie, a group of suits, working together, is near impossible to stop. Not to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:18 PM
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This, they all want that unrealistic super-man who conquers the world or something. And if they don’t get that they have internal wars with themselves about whether or not they should stay. Crazy to think about
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 02:55 PM
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This is all pseudo science
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 02:52 PM
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They’re parents, a relationships where you have to slog through months/years of emotional labor and pay for everything isn’t a relationship worth having, imo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 02:51 PM
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Nope, bury that 2012 “nice-guy” trope in a 20 ft ditch. We want you guys to increase your standards, just in the areas of treatment. We see you guys act absolutely stupid for men you’re truly attracted to and realize “hey, if she really likes me I won’t have to fulfill a laundry list of requirements in order for her to show she’s attracted to me”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 02:50 PM
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I for one totally want my girlfriend to see me as a convenient semi-sexual entity with lukewarm attraction towards me. Amirite????
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 02:47 PM
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You keep saying 99% of men will never reach that standard but I’ve literally see my female friends and aquaintances turn into absolute dumbasses because the dude they were dealing with was hot. I mean, letting him drive their car, buying him expensive gifts, putting their all into a man that can’t even give them a straight answer on the “what are we” question. It happens, it happens often, just to a select few men. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 02:43 PM
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What does that have to do with Karl Marcus
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 02:34 PM
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I think he’s scared of minorities or something. Idk, he has some shit he gotta work through mentally
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 12:50 AM
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Apparently my guy. We can’t want shit from these women, but we gotta give our all 24/7 lmaoo. We can’t have our own standards unless those standards directly benefit/validate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 12:49 AM
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I’ve had two long term relationships that were pretty happy and ended due to compatibility issues. I’m very capable of being happy with women. The question is will she be happy with me? Will she want me the whole 100 yards? Or will she get tired and try and replace me. I have no control over that, and thusly don’t stress over it until it happens lol. Until then I try and be the best boyfriend I can be. I just won’t accept less and certainly won’t be a second option or convenient option for a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 06:25 PM
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I just date lol, all of these concept and things I’ve laid out to you are entirely abstract until I see them in real life. They do not dictate how I date, nor do they dictate how I treat women. They only dictate what I will accept from women when the time comes. I don’t live in constant fear the woman I’m with isn’t attracted to me, but I stay vigilant and sniff that shit out when I see it. I stay fit, groom well and dress well. This is just my code to live by and how I think every man who isn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 06:22 PM
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The long-term is rendered moot when you have self respect and realize you don’t wanna be plan b lol. We’re not just gonna ignore you choosing attractive shell like nothing happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 06:16 PM
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How making an observation prove that I want something?All it proves is my initial assessment that women’s standards are garbage tier if the man is attractive enough. They see Chad and go “Oh my God he knows how to tie his shoes😍” If I have to literally be damn near a perfect human being to be considered good enough to date, rather than be good enough to date on top of being a near perfect human being, you can miss me with that. It’s unrealistic, and unsustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 05:57 PM
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I can want validation from sex, and still want to be a respected lol wtf? Ain’t that what women say all the time? “I can be a promiscuous woman, but still want a loving relationship down the line”. Funny how it’s a problem for me tho
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 05:46 PM
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Lmaoo, man. I just saw a video on tiktok of an attractive man cleaning his house and the women in the comments fawning about it. As if having a clean home is some incredibly amazing thing. You guys are the ones that deem being a normal member of society as being leaps and bounds above other men. The bare minimum is in hell if you’re attractive enough to her. And if she has a laundry list of things you gotta do to attract her, odds are she doesn’t like you that much. Because she’s dealt with men …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 05:45 PM
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I simply cannot see it as validating to be wanted for things I don’t want to be primarily wanted for. I’ve personally had a experience where me and the girl had amazing chemistry, were great friends, cared for each other deeply, but when I wanted something more I wasn’t attractive enough. It opened my eyes to the fact I can be the greatest human ever, but my physical traits will always be at the forefront. I’ve seen guys get into relationships where they were initially rebuffed, but she “warmed …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 05:40 PM
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I mean suicide rates and loneliness are valid concerns for men. As long as men don’t base these things on sex from women then those concerns should be seen as valid. It’s not whining when it’s a literal societal problem
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 05:33 PM
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Sure, but the attractive guy was still initially chose over the guy who was less attractive, but had a better personality. Guess who won between those two guys? Attractive shell. The game is the game, and we as men gotta play by the rules you guys dictate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 05:31 PM
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I’m not setting myself up for anything lol. I just date, like any other human being. A peep how attracted she is to me, how much I have to do for her in order to garner a positive reaction etc, but I just date. I don’t employ some 10 step process in order to get sex, I just go, I am who I am, and I’m pretty great. No need for any nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 05:28 PM
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Well I simply see it differently lol, no problem with that. And I certainly wouldn’t wanna date a woman who did that, but you never know until it happens
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 05:22 PM
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Uh huh for sure, except there are women that leverage sex for relationships and emotional intimacy. Still very validating when you look at it from that context
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 05:01 PM
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And women think we should take it as a compliment when they think we’re ‘boyfriend material’ or have ‘boyfriend dick’ or are ‘husband material’. News flash, each gender has their own things they find attractive and project that onto the other gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:22 PM
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Maybe as we get older, but right now, in my early 20’s? Being physically attractive is priceless
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:05 PM
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I don’t care about the OKcupid data. 2009 was a worlds difference from today. And we can both objectively see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:03 PM
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Works for both
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:00 PM
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You’re still telling me how I feel, instead literally listening to my words. I promise I am not conversing with you in bad-faith. It’s kinda getting toxic tbh. The laundry list wouldn’t be a problem if all men were held to that laundry list requirement. But they aren’t. Which entails a hierarchy of attractiveness. Which is why I could only ever truly trust a woman to only want me, once we had already established that the attraction was there and intense. You’re also seriously overestimating how …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:00 PM
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Nope, not at all. Some men just have to look hot and say nice things
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:52 PM
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Yep and 99% of will never be Karl Marx, yet a dude can dream😔
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:51 PM
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You’re still doing the thing, you just introduced the concept of “porn situation(?)” into it now lol. Like I said before, I want the woman to want me for me, but cannot trust that this will be the case unless I am incredibly attractive. Women express the same sentiments all the time and face no flack for it. Just replace a laundry list of requirements with sex and that’s the same complaints they make. Both are valid, both are somewhat true in today’s dating game.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:44 PM
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Sure, not purely physical as he has to atleast have some social skills such as being charming, having conversational skills etc. But those are heightened by the fact he is already physically attractive(Halo theory or whatever tf that is). Whereas, an average man, has to provide a laundry list of requirements just to get a date lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:40 PM
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Nobody is making that fallacy. How about you actually read my post again? Nowhere in it did I conflate being a hot guy with being an asshole. Please read, read slowly, and read diligently.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:38 PM
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In another episode of “PPD’s conflicting narratives” we find here an individual that touts that men “fuck anything” in one breath, whilst also stating we only pursue the hottest of the hot in another breath. As a Man, I am here to tell you, we find most women that do not have something completely wrong with them, somewhat attractive. And if she is cool enough as a person, a lot of us would have no problem dating the average woman, given we are compatible with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:37 PM
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I literally just illustrated to, in concise wording what a lot of men want, and you just said to hell with all that this is what you really want lol. No, I do not want to be Chadicus Thundercockus of Tinderopolis. I want to date a woman who wants me for me, like the majority of men. I cannot trust women to actually want me for me, however, unless I am “Chad”. Because you guys have demonstrated time and time again, the high physical standards you place for men, and the willingness to throw men aw…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:34 PM
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You seem to ignore the fact that the average man has about the same amount of power in this society as the average woman, I.E none. We are all forced to consume in this capitalistic hellscape. There should be some solidarity in this aspect but it just seems to force us to drift further and further apart. The engineers of these dating apps might be men, but it is in their profit-based interests, to cater to women. The men that control society allowed women to express their sexuality more, not bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:30 PM
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I understand there are women with standards (thank God) in terms of treatment in a relationship. I am also not saying you, or even the majority of women act like this past highschool/college. But what I am saying is that a lot of you do during that period and this has an effect on men’s actions. These men just misunderstand the fact that asshole get women in spite of being assholes, because they’re hot to the women they date.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:25 PM
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And men’s physical standards of attractiveness are also leaps and bounds more lenient than women’s. Our relationship standards are also lower. So where does that leave us?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:16 PM
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Well obviously I am not speaking of you specifically lol, and I’m sure you have way better options now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:15 PM
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Except a lot of you, atleast while young, do settle for the hot asshole over the decent guy. Because the decent guy isn’t hot, and a lot of you don’t like being alone. You cannot just expect men, as a collective to peep this shit and ignore it lol. Which is where all these dumbass theories and red pill jargon comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:14 PM
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Female sexuality isn’t suppressed in the west anymore. You guys are completely free to explore your sexuality with whoever you want, 24/7, swipe after swipe. The data shows this as well. This might’ve been the case 30 years ago, but not today.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:12 PM
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Sure, and that’s fine. But I can guarantee a lot of those options are normal stand-up guys who just don’t live up to the high physical standards of today. Those guys are overlooked in lieu of attractive narcissists time and time again. And that is why you see normal idealistic men, turn to red pill. Because of a misunderstanding of why women select men. (Tip: physical attractiveness is paramount)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:10 PM
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My post did not equate bad boys to being hot. Please do not misconstrue my point. I said, the only actions that differentiate a bad boy from a loser is whether he is hot or not. A hot guy who is also a good human being is what women universally want. But a lot of you would rather choose a hot guy who is a bad human being, over an average guy who will put his all into a relationship. Much like a lot of dudes I know would rather spend half their monthly earnings on a car notes for an SRT, rather t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:06 PM
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The reason everyone understands what men like is because what men like is simple. Be somewhat attractive, be someone he can enjoy being around outside of the bedroom, and be a good human being who’s loyal. That’s it, we have considerably lower standards than you guys do. A lot of you don’t even know what you want in men, and have mental battles every other month about whether or not you want to stay with the man you’re with, because better options are a swipe away.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:01 PM
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This this this. They want average men to feel validated because they have to satisfy a long list of conditions, that another man doesn’t by virtue of him being more physically attractive. That isn’t validating, in fact some would consider it insulting
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:00 PM
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It’s not so much wanting to be “Chad” as it is understanding that if you are not “Chad”, you need to provide a list as comprehensive as the one posted in the OP in order to attract a woman. This leaves the man, and the relationship on tentative ground and is not an enviable position to be in. Knowing her love for you is on the condition you satisfy a list more comprehensive and rigorous than the fucking MCAT lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:57 PM
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You ignore the very valid and deep validation that comes from being wanted purely for the physical. Being enough for a woman simply because she finds you that attractive is incredibly validating for the man. You all like to ignore that aspect of dating because you realize just how much you boost a man up when that happens. Yet it happens often, and if you’re the right man, she’ll ignore all the needs you put in the OP post.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:53 PM
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Looks is all you need lol. A man providing all of what you said in the above post, will always lose out to a man sufficiently more attractive than him. Double points if he has social proof as well
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:50 PM
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Yes, love is contingent on the man providing leaps and bounds what other, more desirable men, had to in order to get into a relationship with a woman. Totally lol, not at all conditional and transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:49 PM
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Yes, women have more options in dating than men. This is an established concept, especially on this subreddit. There isn’t someone for everybody. A large portion of men will go a good part of their life without ever having someone who they can say was their partner. If you’re an average woman, not even anywhere close to stunningly beautiful, you will have a litany of options. Just that by virtue of you being a woman, most of those options won’t be good enough for you. Which is perfectly fine, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:47 PM
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The kinds of women that like…hot guys? All women like hot guys tho? The difference between a “bad-boy”(cringe) and a loser is whether or not he’s hot. It has nothing to do with the direct actions of the man, and everything to do with how physically attractive he is. It just so happens that women aren’t ever truly truthful about this aspect of their dating choices, so these men latch onto often wrong interpretation of what is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:43 PM
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Yea, dating the average man is always a bad deal from the perspective of women. Not because the average man is terrible or something, just that you all deserve more, or something like that. There’s always a guy that’s taller, richer, smarter, and more socially respected a swipe away.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:38 PM
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Lmaooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:37 PM
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Femcel rhetoric. Those great women have choices themselves that they don’t want lol. Women care more about physical attraction because their standards are far higher than men’s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:36 PM
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Indifference is why society has slowly been hurtling towards economic and social inequality at breakneck pace for the last half century. Indifference towards the homeless is we currently have millions of unoccupied homes while only hundreds of thousands of homeless. Indifference towards animals is why we slaughter millions of them a year in completely disgusting conditions. Indifference enables hate, indifference is the building block of how hateful, bad-acting individuals are able to enact thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:31 PM
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Casual ableism, great look right there
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:25 PM
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Incoming “nice-guy” one dimensional insults. Basically, they want us to pretend as if none of this exists, or atleast put all of these realizations in the back of our mind, never to be addressed. All of these contradictions, disappointments, flat out lies, none of them should exist to us for their benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:20 PM
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That’s exactly what red pill mfs are doing??? You are exactly what the red pill was built for. Congratulations on adding to the culture that pervades dating today. You can’t even put two and two together lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:15 PM
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But the difference between men who werre wounded by idealism, and women, is the fact you had far more choices as to who to date than men. And it’s eye-opening how, when given those choices, a lot of you somehow always choose the men who treat you badly. You don’t think the guys you rejected in lieu of these bad-acting men didn’t see this growing up? A lot of them internalized it and emulated it in their own dating strategies. Whether because it legitimately worked, or because they had a misguide…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:12 PM
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Because they actually do want to get in relationships, but realized early on that getting in a relationship with a woman who has lukewarm attraction to you is a bad deal. Considering the fact the majority of men are unattractive, most men will date women with lukewarm attraction towards them, irregardless of the woman’s own attractiveness level. Plus a lot of you simply are not long term relationship material. Add on to it the fact a lot of you have problematic attachment issues, selected for me…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:06 PM
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All of this is moot if the guy is hot lol. “Beta bux” is never an enviable position and should never be seen as a positive by the man put in that position. Stop trying to stroke the ego’s of men who would otherwise be undesirable. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:01 PM
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You should absolutely watch it the moment you have free time. 10/10 show until the last season
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:30 PM
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Yes, life is toxic. We’e almost wiped out our own kind multiple time in the last half-century. We are currently hoarding vaccines that could go to third-world countries, and then being shocked when those same third world countries have crazy mutations that render our vaccines useless. Life is a joke, we live in a clown world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:20 PM
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Y’know, sometimes people can feel bad about themselves, not because they are actually bad, but because the world has treated them badly and they internalize it. It’s why unattractive people tend to be more introverted, shy and generally socially awkward. It’s why attractive people often have better outlooks on the world. So when you hear someone say something like that, try and have some understanding and not be an asshole. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:18 PM
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I could make the general statement “Water>Everything else” and of course I would be met with arguments like “what about family? Water isn’t everything! What about your dog, an-and music!” But to a man in the Sahara dying of thirst, that general statement would absolutely hold true
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:14 PM
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Both can be true at the same time. The corporate world, where this power dynamic is most commonly seen, is about as toxic as you can get. Treating dating like Game of Thrones is toxic as hell, even if that’s how life works
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:08 PM
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I guess none of is internalized “never judge a book by it’s cover” growing up. Probably why the world is so messed up today. Oh well
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:04 PM
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Nice directly correlates to the concept of chasteness and innocence. That’s why women that embrace their sexuality in media often times start becoming more abrasive and combative. “Imma bad b*tch” or something like that. You can get somewhat of a picture of a woman’s sexuality from how she carries herself, but there are tons of women capable of carrying an image of themselves that is nothing like their sexual history
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:41 AM
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Validation, attention, free food etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:36 AM
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This isn’t true. You can’t tell how a girl is sexually by how she acts in a non-sexual setting. It’s nota reliable indicator and some of the “nicest” girls I’ve known were complete freaks and sexual deviants. So yea you can keep calling it paranoia but it’s valid either way
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:26 AM
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Thanks for illuminating why dating is so toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:10 AM
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If it is the first major hurdle to attracting a woman, than one could say it is the most important. Especially since this particular hurdle is the biggest hurdle when it comes to dating a woman. Will she find you attractive? Since y’all find the majority of men physically unattractive, one could say that looks are the most important aspect of dating for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:08 AM
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Of course, but still, looks>everything else. If he looks good enough to you, your standards of treatment will be considerably different than a not-so attractive man. It is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:06 AM
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So, looks>everything else. Thanks for confirming
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 09:51 PM
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It’s all calculated whether conscious or not
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 09:49 PM
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This just isn’t true at all. People in friend groups can vastly vary and the fact you think they would be friends based on their commitment style or that that specific trait would be similar amongst friends is hilarious. Have you ever been in a large friend group before?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 05:23 PM
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They do, some are currently wasting away in their rooms right now
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 05:20 PM
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It’s calm here love, bless your heart
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 07:44 AM
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I mean atleast you’re honest about being a shitty human being lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:55 PM
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Why are you assuming he knows?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:52 PM
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Why do you guys act as if literally any relationship in life isn’t transactional to some extent. You guys want to pretend as if the very real social dynamics aren’t real because it would make you feel bad. Even your relationship with your parents is transactional to some extent. It’s like if coffeehouse pajama class liberalism met gender dynamics
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:50 PM
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Isn’t this victim blaming lol. Keep that same energy when ya homegirls cries to you about how a guy “used” her for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:48 PM
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Yea you’re right.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 05:59 AM
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Again, she completely has the choice to only date men who want to commit and put in ample effort and showcase through their actions that they want to commit. Women are in no way “forced” to fuck men in order to get relationships. They choose to deal with these men and that is the beauty of it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 06:39 PM
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I just don’t understand how a woman, who in her early 20’s had incredibly high standards for physical attractiveness, can just up and marry a regular average guy and be attracted to him. I understand “personality” plays a role in this, but I just cannot for the life of me believe the attraction these women feel to these men is real. It all screams of insincerity and settling to me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 06:37 PM
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Lmaoo even when you “graciously accept a no” there are still many women who will shit on you and talk trash about you to their friends. Women, much like men, are human beings shocker. And there are a lot of trash women out there who won’t give you any benefit of the doubt and most certainly won’t respect the fact you “confidently” approached them. It is best to be smart with who you approach, being cognizant of the social ramifications that could possibly happen if you fail. And you will fail of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 05:05 PM
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They aren’t forced. They have a litany of options and choose to deal with those men. Please do not try and absolve women of responsibility for the men they allow into their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:56 PM
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This is “freedom” in the laissez-faire context. Unregulated mass hedonism that benefits no-one but a top percentile while leading to instability and overall loss in standard of living for everyone else. I’m pro sex btw
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:54 PM
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Humans have been doing mini genocides since forever lol. Your village is invaded, the women and children absorbed into the invaders tribe, all able of age men immediately killed. Or, an invader comes in, subjugates a tribe/village/city and genetically excludes all the males of the subjugated people from mating. Anthropology can be an incredibly interesting subject and it gives insight into human behavior and provides better context as to how dating works even today.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:50 PM
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Of course, but easier said than done
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:08 AM
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Of course get some consultation. I am in no way saying it is completely hopeless and there is no chance. Just that the chances are stacked against you, especially for a lot of men working low paying jobs with little to no job security. Just try and be understanding of the fact the court process is incredibly stressful, very scary and often times the man will simply not win. He’ll be lucky to get the kids on the weekends or a month out of the year. After spending thousands on lawyer fees
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:07 AM
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And? Your point being? Some people do not have the facilities, whether mentally or financially to go through the child custody process. Have some understanding
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 10:52 PM
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“Don’t have sex” has been a consistently heckled argument from the religious right for decades now lol. It’s tired, out of touch and lazy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 10:50 PM
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Wow, so you’re just really a trash person lol. Women should be understood when they have concerns about going through the court process. Same understanding should be given towards men as well in regards to SA and other matters where the odds are stacked against them in court. It’s that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:03 PM
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You’re not a man, and never will be so stfu and listen to us about our experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:25 PM
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Consistently making your case for worst poster on PPD lmaoo. At this point imma fan
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:24 PM
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Women don’t take the men that literally r*pe them, to court, because the court process is stressful and stacked against them. And nobody bats an eye. But yet, you throw “take them to court” so easily at men who probably don’t have the funds or time for a lawyer and a stacked court process against them. You don’t see a problem with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:23 PM
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Why don’t women take the men that rpe and sexually assault them to court? Oh? Because the court process is stacked against them right? Why can’t the same be applied for men here? Why do we have* to be strong and put ourselves in compromising situations that will bring little to no benefit to us, because the system is rigged?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:19 PM
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Why don’t women take the men that sexually assault them to court. Once you answer that, you’ll get a bit of insight as to why some men don’t bother with the court process
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:18 PM
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You know this is truly hilarious. Because you’re saying all this, but if I was to say “why don’t women take men to court who sexually assault them”, suddenly you’d have a litany of excuses as to why women don’t want to go through the process. Suddenly you’d understand how f*cked the court process is, suddenly you’d understand why sometimes people don’t want to go through a process that will most likely have a non-favorable outcome for them. “Oh! But the court system is rigged against women!” You…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:09 PM
2

Same as a height no shorter than 5’10 what’s the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 05:04 PM
5

A little more believable tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 05:02 PM
1

Most of the venom is directed towards virgins whether directly or indirectly, male virgins will get shit on somehow. Women know men don’t care about being called whores or easy or whatever so that’s the only thing they got
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:57 PM
8

Your rhetorical style is incredibly toxic lol. You consistently misunderstand those replying to you and argue strawmen. Have a nice day
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:56 PM
1

The only men able to fight aggressively have the money and means to do so. Are you forgetting this conversation revolves around the American Judicial system? Anything can happen if you throw enough money at it. It’s like me pointing to the rich CEO beating a murder case and saying “that’s how I’ll get away with it too!”, like I’m not relatively broke, and black lol. Your view point clearly comes from a position of privilege. Not to mention the website you posted is that of a business looking to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:46 PM
1

In the MAJORITY of cases where the man fights, the woman is still awarded custody. Mind you, the men capable of actually fighting for custody often have the money and means to do so. Something the average man does not. So, we can extrapolate the fact that even men with money and means can’t get custody to that of men who have neither the money or means as well. I’m starting to warm up to this whole solipsism concept because you guys literally do not have any fucking clue about the human experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:40 PM
2

It is safe to assume an outcome, if that outcome is what happens in the majority of situations. Saying “you’ll never know” sounds good and all, but a lot of Americans don’t have the luxury of missing work, paying lawyer fees etc, to find out an almost guaranteed outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:35 PM
2

I don’t think she’s ever missed a meal in her life. Ever had to worry about bills, because she obviously doesn’t understand how life is for most americans who aren’t lucky enough to be born with rich parents
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:32 PM
2

Do you not realize people are broke out here? People have jobs to work, and for the most part as long as the woman isn’t mentally deranged she will win the case. Instead of picking out some anecdotal experience actually look at the big picture. You can’t ever hope to even be a good father if you don’t have a roof over your head, spending thousands of dollars on lawyer fees. Sounds like you’re incredibly privileged class wise and can’t think of it from that perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:30 PM
1

This is just people in general for the most part lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:27 PM
22

Why was it “wasted”? She wasn’t entitled to a relationship and he wasn’t required to reciprocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 08:04 PM
1

It seems like you’re projecting your anger on to me lol, I’m chillin promise. And don’t try and gaslight me, you clearly insinuated I’m frustrated with women in my life who I see as “equals” (what a weird argument). You still continued that argument in your next comment, whilst stating you weren’t, very toxic. For all intents and purposes when two individuals who are similar in earning, interests, mental state etc date, neither party should consider it settling. That is my point, that is all I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:53 PM
1

Things have changed in 3 years lol. Everyone I know uses apps
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 03:42 PM
3

I just like arguing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 03:38 PM
1

Sorry, I know I’ve been on reddit for a good while, but I don’t really know how to navigate lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 12:04 AM
1

I have no problem with women. Please stay on the subject and stop trying to take personal jabs. You just look petty and childish. Anyways, no, my point is that I’ve seen what I said from some women both online and in real life. It reeks of entitlement and self-grandiose. Looking down at a man because he makes the same 50,000 at you is ridiculous to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 12:00 AM
3

Nope, two people working the same job, both neurotypical and have similar interests are objectively on the same level. I know this is a new and scary concept for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 04:49 AM
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Yea of course, the guy who got casual sex from that one girl who wasn’t attractive enough for a relationship isn’t complaining. The 2/10 landwhale who bagged a 5/10 guy in middle management isn’t complaining. What’s your point? The ones that try and gun above their weight class and end up empty handed sure do cry a lot though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 04:48 AM
3

Answer me this: The answer is she has no reason to. But again, when she wants something that is above and beyond what she has to offer, I don’t care to hear her complain. As men we have to look realistically at dating and we learn early on that we have to create our own value and be someone worth dating. We don’t get the luxury of wanting a woman who is objectively above us in terms of dating and sex. Better yet expecting to date such a woman. That’s silly. So when I hear women complain about da…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 04:43 AM
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Literally this, they want men to ignore the fact they were overlooked while younger and just be okay with that. Be okay with being the second option, be okay with rejection, indifference, whatever and just keep on trucking like none of it happened lmao. Like nah we saw it, it happened, address it and own it. Atleast there is some respect to be garnered that way anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 04:36 AM
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As long as you keep quiet about it it’s completely fine. The problem is a lot of y’all don’t. “Men are trash” this and that all the time. When all that happened is y’all punched above your weight class and didn’t have the facilities to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 04:30 AM
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I’m confused on when I argued or distorted the definition of settling. Of course these women are settling, but they shouldn’t consider it settling given the objective reality of their situation. Which brings to light the delusional thinking these women have, that they are somehow above a man who is objectively in the same place as them. A woman who works retail considering it settling that she is dating a man who also works retail is delusional. One could even say it is indicative of something m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 04:22 AM
2

Looks do matter 10000000%. No point in improving if you have deficiencies in the most important aspect of dating. It’s like me trying to make renovations on my decrepit house, with neither the funds or materials in order to make that improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 04:17 AM
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I am not asking for anything other than for that 2/10 landwhale to consider being with the male 2/10 landwhale as not settling. If she can’t stomach dating a man on the same level as her than she shouldn’t complain when she doesn’t get what she wants out of dating. Nobody should take her complaints as anything other than the tantrum of a spoiled petulant child, devoiding her of empathy. It is objectively delusional, the same as a basement dwelling incel considering nothing less than a runway mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 04:09 AM
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You’ve shown you know how to copy and paste. Now direct me to which part of my post stipulated “women always want better”. Please. Again, all I have stated is “dating someone who is on the same level as you shouldn’t be considered settling”. That is the core point I aimed to convey
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:32 AM
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When did I say that? I never made the claim “women always want better”. I simply said dating a human being that is on the same level as you shouldn’t be considered settling. Sadly it is for some women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:25 AM
2

Same here, which is why I don’t agree with the language used. I wish these guys would understand their language is incredibly important when conveying an idea, because some of them seem completely oblivious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:24 AM
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I don’t know a lot of people who don’t do str, so maybe that’s where the discrepancies in opinion stem from. This is my experience being a man of college age on a college campus
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 02:59 AM
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Those are not middling men lol. It they have clear social issues/smell weird(lmaooo) then they are not average. Being bare bones as a dude, as in not being a complete weirdo and having your shit together, isn’t enough imo. And damn, I already knew my dating prospects would be better the older I get, but if these are the dudes I’m competing with then it should be a cake walk😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 02:56 AM
1

I think you both think the same thing, but just use different language to express your thoughts. You both would agree getting with women is a “struggle”, as in the chase. Whether one considers it a “conquest” (problematic language) or just something that happens, you both experience the same thing when talking with women. Just my 2 pence
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 02:53 AM
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Yea our generation is a lot more short-term minded, which makes sense since we are young. Which is why I’m saying what I’m saying. From my experience, every long term gf I had started off as short term. As in she saw me, thought I was good looking and we hooked up. Most of the time my personality was never in the question past not being an blatant asshole and a socially awkward weirdo. Those girls just happened to luck out with me since I’m (no narcissism) not an asshole and tend to actually wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 02:44 AM
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It wasn’t an attempt at an insult lol. Ugly, basement dwelling trolls usually don’t think they’re entitled to average women. In fact, if any of them do get lucky and bag an average woman they consider themselves the luckiest mfs on the planet. My point was a guy with a middling job, who takes care of himself, makes ok money, has his own car, works out, is clean etc would be considered not good enough by a lot of women who are objectively the same as him. Promise there wasn’t any venom on my part
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 02:37 AM
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If it is “assortative”, as in two individuals in similar societal standing, choosing to couple up, may I ask how that is settling? Why would a woman consider that settling? Rhetorically speaking, because of thinking like in the OP. Most guys gotta wait until they’re in their mid-20 to thirties in order to find a woman similar to them finding a ltr with them as palatable. The same women, abstractly speaking, that wouldn’t have batted an eye at them at an earlier point in life because they conside…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 02:29 AM
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It is pretty uncommon lol. I’m in the same age range as you. I don’t have any problem dating myself, but having bare bones personality traits such as being considerate, caring, nice(in the literal term) etc do not help in dating. They just stop you from making enemies and finding yourself on a massive social media post
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 02:22 AM
0

“Unattractive loser” usually translates to a man that is on the same level as you lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 02:19 AM
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It shouldn’t be considered settling lmaoo. You and good ol normie are on the same level. The fact you consider it settling is a core part of men’s frustrations with women. You guys all think you’re leaps above us and act as such in your most attractive periods of life because of the nature of dating. Eventually, when the large majority of you don’t bag that “prince charming” you all pine for, suddenly personality matters more, suddenly a “good man” is all that is needed, etc. Most of you simply …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 02:13 AM
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I’m glad to see that. I actually want being a good person, being a genuinely good individual, to trump being an physically attractive asshole. I want you guys to filter out dudes that use these tactics and actually date men with your best interests in mind. Until that happens, bad behavior will continue to persist, as that is what is rewarded in the current dating setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 02:08 AM
5

Goes for just about anything tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 01:58 AM
1

I don’t think so much “Stacy” as just a human female who likes him for who he is lol. No need to misrepresent someone just because they hold shitty views
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 05:05 AM
2

My dad would still get laid today because he’s tall and charismatic. Alot of y’all’s short chubby boring dad’s? Not so much. The game is different today, far harder to get laid as a man, far harder to reach women’s increasingly astronomical physical standards
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:13 AM
2

“Yea makes my blood boil. Anyways could I take you out on dinner lol I hate men” You’re starving bro
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:09 AM
1

This does not describe men btw, this describes you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:08 AM
2

Maybe she is, maybe she isn’t. Even the most prolific female whore is still relatively picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:04 AM
2

Absolutely, it’s kinda a mindfuck when you really think about it. I’m not well-versed enough to be able to fully describe this phenomenon but I’m sure someone eventually will
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:43 AM
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Malthus was wrong then, please don’t try and make him right now. 1% of human being account for the majority of carbon emissions. “Less humans” won’t fix this, please stop genocidal dog-whistles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 06:31 PM
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It’s actually crazy how most red pill dudes are full right wing economic conservatives, but suddenly have solidarity when it comes to pussy. Insane
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 06:29 PM
1

Idk man, the stats atleast for my generation are showing more and more simply being average isn’t enough anymore. Male sexlessness is the #1 indicator
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 06:24 PM
1

Neither is perfectly acceptable, I’m just making the point that to the average woman, they would rather be alone than date the average man. Something we’ve been saying for years now
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:15 PM
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You haven’t, but there a many women who don’t have anywhere as much training as you do in human behavior that think exactly as you do. Anyways, God bless
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:39 PM
1

Which is what most women would rather do than sleep with an average/below average man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:29 PM
1

Everybody thinks they’re good at reading people lol. This arrogance is why y’all get played
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:26 PM
0

Holy shit English can’t be your first language lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 07:27 PM
1

That doesn’t mean he explicitly believes women will flock to him because of his hobbies. Dude is probably hoping he can find that unicorn girl that likes all the hobbies he does, but to state that a lot of men assume their hobbies will attract flocks of women is nonsense. Just as much nonsense as if a woman thought being a make-up artist would be the reason she’s attractive to men. I can only speak for young men currently so maybe this was different in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 03:56 PM
1

No dude thinks like this lol. Gamers know gaming isn’t attractive unless it’s making them bank. This doesn’t make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 03:20 PM
1

Physical attraction is the first and most important aspect of attraction. If most women have completely astronomical unrealistic physical standards then all the other standards will not matter since most men can’t even reach the initial condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 03:18 PM
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Congrats, you’ll do great in dating and I hope the best for you. Now get your homegirls on the same page. There’s a lot of y’all with problematic attachment styles that run away the second a man genuinely wants the best for them. And will fall head over heels in love with a man on purely superficial things. This describes certain men as well. Except we don’t have power in the dating market. Most dudes this statement describes are simply starved for attention and intimacy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 11:30 PM
1

Again, nobody is saying ugly=no red flags/good guy. But my statement is still valid. Women make their own bed and stay in it when they get with emotionally unavailable men, with plenty of red flags because he is hot and tall. Or because he has good vibes or whatever the fuck lol. I’m glad you run from red flags, and I hope you’ve never been played before. Unfortunately, there are a lot of women that are not like you. And they complain online all the time about it, as if they are not the choosers…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 11:25 PM
3

I’m a STEM student right now. Most of the stuff I’m learning will only be translatable if I decide on a career in research. Which I most likely will not. Most of the stuff I will use later in life I’ll learn on the job, or on youtube. Yet, I have to get this piece of paper in order to show prospective employers I am competent enough. College for the most part is a scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 10:34 PM
1

80/20 in action right there
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 10:20 PM
2

This reply is exactly why I never feel bad when women get “played” by men. Nobody is saying ugly=nice and good. But many of you will completely ignore red flags and attribute good qualities to a meh dude because he’s hot and tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 10:15 PM
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Really, how long does it take to realize your taste in men is bad? Why does it take literally aging to realize men that are emotionally unavailable are bad? Why does it take until you’re literally reaching your 30’s, having spent almost a decade as an adult to choose “good ol’ reliable”? Why is it that coincidentally around the time most women start becoming less physically attractive is around the time they stop dating men off of superficial shit? Basically, the point I’m making is that the wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 10:06 PM
3

The old “guys only want hot and popular girls” shtick is tired. Most guys want regular girls, just as you say most women want regular guys. Except most of us have experienced that the “regular girls” we want seem to be more attracted to men who don’t like them, use them for sex and are emotionally unavailable. A lot of men become the aforementioned guy after seeing what the girls they want are attracted to and the cycle continues. Where is the origin point of this cycle? Young women. If all wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 10:03 PM
1

Great thing, not so great for average/below average men. So, it depends on who you are
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 09:57 PM
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By “nice” you mean good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 03:09 AM
1

Who said it definitely attracts women. Nobody argues is such literal terms, at least seriously. Get a grip
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 03:11 AM
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All I’m saying is it’s not realistic to pine over this idealistic type of man. Nor is it a good strategy to discount a man, or view him as lesser, because he doesn’t have girls all over him. But hell y’all do what y’all want, I personally love projecting good qualities onto other human beings off of the most superficial qualities ever. Really does wonders for my dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:54 PM
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Because that’s simply stupid as fuck. Should I also shout to the heavens about the amount of money I have in the bank account in order to attract women. That’s autistic. Like I’m dead cracking up rn, you’re funny asf
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:52 PM
1

What do you mean? Should I proclaim I am the biggest slut in the world, to a woman I am interested in in a public space? Under what circumstances would my sluttiness be the topic? Most of y’all don’t give two shits how many women your men have been with. And if you do care, you only care that it isn’t too small
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:33 PM
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That’s for you and the eventual man you pick to decide. I am no harbinger of the future. Choose well, and it won’t happen at all
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:30 PM
2

Literally what the RP has always been saying
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:23 PM
3

I abstain from an opinion on men. However, women surely are attracted to sexually successful men far more than sexually unsuccessful men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:21 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:20 PM
2

As a man, the more women that want you, the more attractive you are to other women. Consequently, there is a higher likelihood that a high-n man would be attractive to a low-n woman, than a low-n man would be to the same woman. That’s just the game y’all made, and we’re adapting to it, I ain’t no hippocrip
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:18 PM
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Have fun finding a man that fits this hilarious fantasy. He’s gonna have all these women chasing him, but omg he only wants you! Yea and I want a virgin that fucks me like a pornstar, unrealistic, grow up. This is exactly how y’all get played and cheated on too but imma mind my business lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:16 PM
5

Yet, there seems to be an abundance of mentally unhealthy women that flock to these players
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:13 PM
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Lmaoo, I love sexual liberation. Never has it been easier for a dude to get sex with absolutely no effort on his part.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:10 PM
2

That’s definitely false lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 06:21 PM
1

What a bs generalization lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 06:20 PM
1

This reply was unnecessary lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 09:21 PM
1

I mean yea lying is bad
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:01 AM
2

If we’re not exclusive, you’re not entitled to any info about who else I’m having sex with. Only thing you should be concerned about is whether I’m clean or not
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 09:27 PM
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How is having multiple options being thirsty lol. If anything the guy with multiple options would appeal to you the most since he’d be cool on you, since he gets his sexual needs met elsewhere. Not that you would know lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:17 PM
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This is the game y’all created lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:31 PM
2

There’s no cut and dry formula to this lol. Those are just my standards, I’m not gonna wait around for a girl that probably didn’t do this with other guys. I want to feel wanted and feel it alot. I’m gonna put my own imperative first, just as you should. It’s also dependent on the individual. Just as you’re looking for that mythical 6 foot plus guy who pets random dogs on the street, has every woman in the city wanting him but only wants you, I want my cake and wanna eat it too. Anyways, be safe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 06:15 PM
1

You’re completely right they’re gonna chase “chad”. There’s only so much of him to go around. Have fun and practice safe sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 06:12 PM
1

Lmao, all men should have a moral compass and be good people. Just like there should be no homeless, we should be 100% green energy and there should be no racism. But like, how is that realistic? Humans have been shit to each other for millennia. It’s on you to choose a good partner from your plethora of options and not have sex with the same guy you’ll say is trash in a week. Not my problem, I don’t really care
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:48 PM
1

You sound conservative and unhinged. I’m removing myself from this conversation. I won’t listen to any “pull yourself by the bootstraps” nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:35 PM
1

Nobody is saying deadbeat dads are absolved. Nobody with even a tiny wrinkle in their brain has ever said that. Deadbeat baby dads are the worst and should be held accountable fully.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:34 PM
1

We are not the pickers. Just because I chose to apply to this 100k job doesn’t mean I’m a “picker”, they are ultimately because they are in the power position and a gatekeeper to that job. Incredibly smooth brained analysis by you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:33 PM
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It’s a very safe bet to assume she fucked a few guys upon first meeting them before you in 2021. So if I see over time that intimacy will be a long wait for me, I will simply assume you’re not that attracted to me. Because again, you did it before, but it’s suddenly different for me. Not that you should care, you’re a woman. You have endless options lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:30 PM
1

Those men still get sex. Those men that are so “shitty” still get what they want in the end. Hold some accountability and stop having sex with trash men. A monumental task to ask for most women out here, but hey, it’s a step towards a solution
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:26 PM
2

I mean, that is true LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:21 PM
1

Because capitalism. Because neoliberalism. Because wages have stagnated for decades while corporate profits have skyrocketed. Are you that naive?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:17 PM
1

Lmaoo the vagina tingles are all that matters. Then stfu when those tingles get you in bad situations with terrible people. We literally do not care if you don’t even care.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:15 PM
1

I literally do not care what women do and how they pick men. It does not affect my life, I find my own success being myself, being a great person and most importantly being fit and attractive. I am, again, providing critiques on what I have seen women do, these critiques do not apply only to women. Men who fall into these patterns of romantic choices should heed this advice as well. I see women simply as human beings, just as I see all people as human beings. They do, however, have an objective …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:23 AM
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Bro I’m seriously confused on what problems you have with my statements. You’re making women out as if they have no agency, no choice in the men they pick. When that is far from the case. I’m simply providing one of the many critiques on why some of them fail so hard at it. From what I’ve personally seen from women around my age. Choose better men, based on their personality, not on how hot they are. That is what we mean by choose better. Be okay with dating a dude that isn’t 6 inches taller tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:30 PM
1

You are literally in the power position. You are the one that gets to decide who sticks their penis in you. Therefore it is your responsibility in that power position to pick well, nobody else cares lol. If the positions were flipped I would say the exact same shit to men. Hell, NBA players get shit on all the time for picking horrible baby mothers. You have the power to pick any woman in the world and this is who you chose???
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:21 PM
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Lmaoooo of course they’d say they don’t?? One of the main tenets of lacking accountability is that you don’t identify what you did wrong. Do you think every woman out here is just perfectly selecting men along the criteria I stated? Are you seriously that naive? They aren’t perfect little angels that are poor victims of men. They play a part in their own dating woes. The same as men that choose women based on looks rather than personality. Why is this such an enraging claim to you? Netflix and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:08 PM
2

Oh no, the old man is speaking condescendingly on me as if he’s some heavenly sage or something. I have plenty of women friends, I’m not misogynistic, I’ve had plenty of hookups and a handful of girlfriends. These statements I’m talking about are coming from a clear head with no bitterness attached. I am speaking on women in my age group as a collective. Over time, this is what I am seeing in my female peers, commodification of relationships, increased shallowness, overlooking red flags, etc. Li…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 09:45 PM
1

Agreeableness, effort, treatment, understanding your specific love language, so on and so forth. Women have consistently accepted less in regards to these standards over time while increasing their physical standards for men. Yet complain when the men they select for are not good long term partners. “Men are trash” they say. Another problem arises when women finally wise up but come with hella baggage to a relationship with a man that actually want to do right by them. Orr, their physical standa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 07:11 PM
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Literally, all we ask is that y’all raise your standards in the aspects of an individual conducive to an actually healthy long-term relationship. And be willing to date men that aren’t in the top fifth of male physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:20 PM
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You don’t understand lol, even a tiny bit of mental illness can be incredibly hampering to mans dating success. As in mental health problems that wouldn’t affect his day to day could ruin him in the dating scene. So again, you’re advocating men dealing mental troubles perfect themselves before dating. Not realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:17 PM
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“Stroke of bad luck” 4 times in a row? Yea alright lol. Sociopaths can manipulate almost anyone, not discounting that. But most women that get in bad relationships get in many bad relationships. They have a preference it seems, and that preference also leaves them with hella baggage
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 03:58 AM
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I simply will not invest myself in a long term relationship with a woman who got pavlov’d by some dickhead who gives two shits about her. I need someone with better discernment in their choices. Especially since it often means those choices will creep into aspects of our own relationship down the line via the emotional baggage train Not that you asked lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:00 AM
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Okay, but if her actual preferences happen to all be abusive and generally uncaring for her relationship wise that is a red flag. The men she dealt with in her past are general reflection of who she is as a person. It would likely implicate possible compatibility issues down the line if she had a history of dating serial flexers, clout demons, misogynists, abusers, because I am none of those. Simply put I refuse to be the safe option, I refuse to date someone who is a refugee from her aesthetic …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:56 AM
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What?? Being abusive isnt repellent. U learn sumn new everyday
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:59 AM
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Women are able to organize in the dating world just in the same way the rich are able to organize and shape the real world into the way it is. You don’t think all of the richest financial investors, politicians, royalty, etc work together to squeeze the rest of us dry as effectively as possible? You should watch Noam Chomsky’s “Manufacturing Consent” documentary. He goes in detail about this concept. Anyway, my point being that it is far easier to organize and maintain a status quo when you alre…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:34 AM
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Yea, we also have the power to bring out the guillotines and chop off all the rich fuckers heads who have been screwing us for the past few decades. But that requires organization and mobilization. Two extremely difficult things to do, just ask the labor movement. Add on subversive forces such as women that don’t want to lose their privilege affecting the thought process of these men we’re magically supposed to organize do better and that’s a tall fucking order to accomplish. One would say that …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:24 AM
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Um, the men here don’t represent most men out there. This is an incredibly niche sub that would have you immediately socially ostracized if anyone in your personal life was aware you were engaging in discourse. I think you can sleep well knowing most normies don’t think like this
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:19 AM
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Women have the power in dating world. Women thusly shape this specific world. You cannot hide from your privilege in this aspect lol. No matter how much it makes you uncomfortable, or how much your upbringing told you otherwise. Only a small portion of men have the power to advocate for themselves and get what they want out of the dating scene. The rest of us take what we can get. Much like in society in general. Most immigrant workers take what they can get, they do not have any power. Wise up …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:15 AM
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Wow, what a thought provoking reply. It all still comes back to men and it is our fault in your head. Somehow some way you managed to do that. Incredible. I’ll leave you to it tho God bless
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:13 AM
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No dude, some guys literally have never had the opportunity. Wherher they stay in all day, or are focused on school or whatever. As a guy you will not get play if you do not actively look for it, even if you’re “good-looking”. Very rarely will a woman shoot her shot at you first. Extremely rare if you’re an average to slightly above average dude
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:11 AM
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Lol, you keep saying men are broke, so just pick the hottest guy. Which is stupid. If both men are “broke” and make the same amount of money, but one guy is hotter, that should be a plus, but not the end all be all for the person you’re choosing to be your partner for life and have children with. And even in a casual situation, picking the hotter guy makes sense, but just keep it at that and keep your expectations low. Stop crying to the world and the internet about how the hot guy doesn’t open …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:09 AM
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The only aspect of that I can see is that sometimes she still likes those guys. She just became smart enough through brute force bad relationships to know she shouldn’t get involved in it anymore. You’re not the guy she truly wants, you’re just a convenient smart option for her, you’ll never be her burning desire however. The person you’re supposed to share your life with, wouldn’t be with you in an ideal situation had her actual preferences acted right
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:05 AM
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We do, you guys just hold the power. Do I have agency and responsibility for the climate crisis? Yes, I should recycle more, drive less and use less water. But how at all does my responsibility compare to that of multinational corps that spew the majority of greenhouse gases and pollute oceans and cut down whole ecological structures? You know this, you’re just too stubborn to accept it lol. With great power comes great responsibility, or whatever that guy said
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:02 AM
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Again, they have lowered their standards in all of the wrong areas. Why would you lower your standards for men in the most important aspects of a relationship? Why would you accept less in regards to effort, character, treatment etc? And then to top it all off, why would you raise your standards in most superficial aspects like looks, height, “social status” (I.E clout demons and flexers) and expect anything more than heartbreak over and over again? It doesn’t make sense. And we reserve the righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:59 PM
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Demonizing sexually-unsuccessfully men is like the best pasttime for you people on this sub lol. Keep applying moralistic qualities to sexual success. It definitely won’t motivate men to get sex at whatever cost in order to feel better about themselves. Such as lying, being manipulative etc. Keep doing it, it’s really helping women alot
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:55 PM
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Fucking this bro. Poverty exacerbates the physical attractiveness/neurotypical divide. Unless you’re a scammer, flexer, naturally good-looking, or an accomplished athlete, you’re not getting any play. Unless you just happened to be lucky and find a girl that wants you just for you and likes something about you. Most of the dudes getting play also happen to be the ones that display the most toxically masculine traits and generally are extremely extroverted
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:50 PM
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Are you actually a man? Have you had experience dating as a man? You’re speaking with such authority but I wanna know if you’ve actually lived what you’re speaking about. Because a lot of men deal with exactly what my dude is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:46 PM
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Yea, he should completely starve himself of an important aspect of being human, because he isn’t perfect. Do you hear yourself right now? Jesus
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:44 PM
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Totally understand this. Not to make it about myself, but on the other side of the coin, women do this too. In my experience, it’s usually the average to slightly above average women that will take it upon themselves to try and rip your heart out when they reject you. I guess as a way to try and feel better about themselves and the fact they can’t attain the men they truly want. They take out that frustration on the non desirable men that show them attention. Everyones out here dragging along de…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:39 AM
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It just made me become a communist tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:34 AM
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Did you just “no u”’d me? Lmaoo. I certainly don’t think my comment about craving something deeper was profound. Rather common sense and mundane, since most people eventually end up in relationships. A relationship without a deep emotional bond is inferior to one with it. That is all, that is my argument. You are making arguments about stuff I haven’t brought forth. I never once said anything about whether or not sex was needed for a relationship. You’re arguing with yourself right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:34 PM
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A fulfilling sexual life is implied with that person you can have a deeper connection with. I shouldn’t have to explain that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 05:53 AM
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It isn’t, but you’re acting like you made a profound or shocking revelation. You presented the statement jn a manner that usually means it’s an argumental game-changer. The fact most men wouldn’t be willing to foster deep ties romantically with a woman who never has sex doesn’t take away from the fact a deep emotional bond is far superior to a a simply physical occasion in the context of relationship/sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:23 AM
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Did that on purpose lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:55 PM
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Well in the context of relationships and sex, well duh. But I’m perfectly capable of having a deep emotional relationship with a female friend. It doesn’t have to be sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:54 PM
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Ight you got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 08:20 AM
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Huh? No. Promiscuous women are still picky lol. That’s what pisses these dudes off. She’s having all this sex, but not with me. She’s freely fucking all these guys, but apparently I’m not good enough. This breeds resentment. This resentment manifests itself in the arguments you see above. And I do not at all mean this in a derisive or antagonistic manner. A complete misunderstanding or willful misrepresentation of female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 08:02 AM
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You don’t think I’m aware of that shit? I took what made sense from the redpill and dropped everything else. That shit is toxic, it’ll give you some useful perspective on sex and relationships but it is not a guiding principle nor is it a productive ideology constantly employ. Yes, women like to fuck, they are human beings. I’m glad it took an obscure extremist internet ideology for you to come to that conclusion, it took that for me as well. But now, take a step back, use that information dilig…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 07:33 AM
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Either make yourself sexually exciting or find a girl that finds you sexually exciting. Get ripped, new clothes yada yada yada, get ya money up and all those worries about not being attractive enough go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 07:07 AM
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Well, take your chances with casual sex. Be aware of the fact most women simply won’t find you attractive enough to just fuck. Or maybe you are attractive enough to be a man-whore. Take your chances bud, go out into the world and see if you got what it takes. Don’t complain when every woman isn’t willing to throw themselves in bed with you just for sex and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 07:02 AM
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That’s why, as a guy, you gotta do the best you can to make yourself as attractive as possible to mitigate the “particularly attractive” problem. Then be realistic about your smv and find a girl who finds you attractive and is compatible for a relationship. This is wholly contingent on the individual and is not black and white. If you just wanna be a man-whore well, either be rich asf, well-connected or conventionally attractive. There’s no other way about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 07:00 AM
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The “I want to fuck you for the night” only applies to women who are sexually attractive but not compatible for a relationship. Since a lot of guys are whores with incredibly low standards, most women are sexually attractive to them, but not particularly interesting past that point. These guys can’t seem to stop thinking with their dicks and realize they gotta find a girl they click with deeper as a priority. Why? Because they’re pussy starved.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:56 AM
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Sticking your dick in a warm hole, preferably of an attractive women, is like the holy grail to these guys. Sex is fun, but having only that eventually leaves you feeling unfulfilled. Whether that happens after the first sexual encounter or the 50th, it happens to almost everyone. Having someone who provides a deeper connection, someone you can spend a boring weekend with who understands you and loves you is simply far superior in my opinion. Most of these guys are just young or sexually inexper…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:51 AM
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I think the mentality these guys have stems from the fact they think women can’t possibly have sex just to have it. Which, we all know, is untrue. Do a lot of women have sex with a guy to try and get a relationship later? Yea, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t capable of seeing reality for what it is and just enjoying the sex while it happens. They think every sexual interaction women have is an attempt to get a relationship with that man which just isn’t true. This stems from misogyny and compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:44 AM
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I hate to be that guy, but sex is not everything. Ask any guy that gets lots of sex. It loses it’s luster, it’s fun for a while, but we all eventually crave something deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:41 AM
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“Unga bunga women good men bad”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:32 PM
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You got destroyed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:33 AM
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Wanting romantic/sexual attention and validation is just as valid as wanting attention and validation from loved ones. You need both in life or you’re constantly going to feel like there is a hole in your life. I can constantly be getting woman after woman, but if I have no friends or loved ones to rely on, it can feel empty. Same goes in the opposite, you can have all the friends, support and loved ones you can want, but for a lot of people if you don’t have that special person, or don’t have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:30 AM
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But when a man acts in this exact same way, he’s a misogynistic incel. Hmm
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:23 AM
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Relationships are absolutely a priority. Expecting a human being, an innately social organism to not be social and connect with another on a deep level is emotional abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 02:18 PM
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Yes, I’d rather he act like that than buy into a false reality that he’s actually appreciated for who he is
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 02:17 PM
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Sounds great tbh, already see it happening. Looks> everything else and that’s the dating scene women have overlooked with their immense power
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 02:15 PM
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Okay but they’ll probably treat that 2001 camry like shit and resent it every day of their life, even if that’s what they can realistically afford. It’s entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 02:14 PM
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I think the fallacy here is that women are looking for “equals” because that’s not the case lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 02:13 PM
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Rhetoric from both men and women. Attractive desirable men are put on a pedestal by women and are envied by men. While the rest of the male population not in that category live in virtual radio silence with little to no validation. It’s a combination of the rhetoric, and the reality of life for most men in this context
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 01:54 PM
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More than not that in common shit doesn’t matter tho lol. My generation is extremely shallow and better looking dude will almost always win out and personality is a null factor. Women aren’t some special wonderful class of people incapable of being brutally shallow, they’re just as shallow as men, maybe even more since their physical requirements are wayy higher. Y’all just compromise more, since you kinda have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 01:41 PM
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Lmaooo ONE party as if that means something socially. God you guys sound so old
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 01:21 PM
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I think you’re understating just how much harder it is to overcome not being a 7+ as a man with personality and all that other bs. If you’re not good looking as a man there’s no amount of confidence in the world that will help that for the vast majority of guys with today’s women. Guys that do overcome are lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 01:07 PM
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So essentially what you’re saying is most people will go for 8. Which is exactly what dude above you said lol. As long as he isn’t a complete aspie and is pretty normal he’ll win out everytime
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 12:55 PM
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Appearance is weighted more heavily in men, but women have much higher standards of what they find physically attractive. In my freshman year Lit class, my grade was more heavily weighted towards homework, yet the homework was extremely easy. The HW was far harder in my higher level math class, even though it was only 5% of the total grade and virtually insignificant. Guess which class had more students passing? Try and guess in which of these classes students had a far harder time succeeding?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 12:46 PM
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And this is why looks are paramount to anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 12:34 PM
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Why should I care what some dead dudes from “hundreds of years ago” thought about women when I can clearly see today, in the world that affects me, the clear importance women hold over men in our society?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 12:32 PM
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Nothing much to do. Just providing context as to why this situation is frustrating for many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:08 AM
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”please lower your standards to be with us” The “standards” these guys are mainly talking about are one’s they can’t change. Like height, or jawline. These are the standards men say women are too high in. Not whether women will take abuse, or whether they’d be okay with a man not paying for a date etc etc. Only wanting guys who are 6ft+ when you’re 5’2 is an objectively high standard. They don’t mean “take worse treatment and date gutter trash men”, they mean “stop having unrealistic expectation…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 01:58 AM
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it is what it is Couldn’t agree more lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 01:47 AM
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Both are true to some extent lol. Y’all will only have casual sex with a small subset of men. But y’all just share those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 01:21 AM
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Uh oh, “The past is the past” mfs ain’t gon like this one
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 10:57 PM
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Welp I’m a Gen Z young adult, and I’m telling you that’s what works for us. This culture has been fostered by women. They have a masochistic desire for men that are emotionally unavailable and distant. You might just live in an alternate reality lmao, cuz the streets are tough out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:10 PM
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My point in bringing up those qualities is to convey the idea that all types of girls go for these men. Guess who my first girlfriend cheated on me with? The guy that was bragging about how many nudes he got and showing us in the locker room. He was literally the physical embodiment of the “asshole” cliche. But yet he had hella partners, including my then girlfriend apparently. She was literally the most plain quiet stereotypical “good girl” a dude could fine. It’s shit like that combined with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:24 PM
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Lmaooo, down bad you are. Yea imma just date women I find physically attractive sorry. The rest of y’all can stick ya dicks in anything not my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:36 PM
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Nobody with a brain believes looks don’t matter, or believes thats what everyone in normie society thinks. What we do believe is that for the most part there is a narrow standard of physically attractive traits that men have to fit. As in, women only find a small number of men truly physically attractive. The rest of them are thusly less desirable and will have a harder time finding women to truly love and desire them for them, as opposed to what they can provide. Since this is the case, and sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:31 PM
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Cynicism often translates to reality the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:25 PM
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I like quiet girls, athletic girls, alt girls, band girls etc. It was all the same lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 12:17 PM
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Huh? They do choose me. Maybe not in high school, but I’ve grown into my looks now. Anyhoo, this was a nice talk
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:54 AM
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These women aren’t broken lol. They’re perfectly normal people pursuing degrees, in the workforce and lead perfectly normal lives. You just refuse to believe this is how a normally functioning woman could choose to live her love life. I was just as shocked as you at first. But it is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:48 AM
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Sure you make a bunch a really good points. I’m just providing context as to why certain young men feel the way the way they do. And also why when they finally do reach that peak physically, financially etc, why they feel a certain sense of resentment for being rejected for most of their lives. Less resentment, more disillusionment. It’s real, it’s there and it’s valid. A bunch of therapy will be needed for a lot of men out here that face rejection on a daily basis from the same women who will w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:47 AM
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Because we’re hammered from day one through media and through society that “personality matters” more than anything else. I.E being nice, funny, respectful of boundaries, considerate, polite, etc can make up for lacking in the physical area. Yet then we get into puberty and see the most successful guys happen to be the worst characters possible. It throws us for a loop. And thats where you see guys falling sown that alt right/incel rabbit hole. They need answers for why they’re not successful. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:43 AM
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No woe is me. I’m getting mine😂, y’all be easy tho. I just don’t care when y’all complain all dudes are assholes this yadda yadda. Either you or your homegirls are opening their legs up to these trash men. Heterosexual women have an almost masochistic desire to date terrible men. I simply provide a product that fits the demand in the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:38 AM
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Text book straw-manning lmaoo. I didn’t say I was angry I wasn’t liked. Simply that women went for exactly the type of men Red Pill said they would in my experience. The Red Pill type guy has never been me, but I had to force it to get attract the girls in my area. I had to force myself to not get emotionally attached and to feign aloofness in order to date the girls I wanted. Because that’s what they wanted. And now I’m seeing girls my age finally get a bit older and start complaining about men…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:30 AM
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I’m “whining”? Calm down fam you’re trying too hard. The type of egotistical, misogynistic, outgoing, brash, womanizing guy that most young women fall for. The Red Pill tells men to emulate that stuff. To the point where a bunch of them go full autist and turn into psychopaths. Women play a hand in selecting for these men in their formative years which influences how men perceive attractive attributes in a man. Very hard to believe women like average looking, polite men as much as egotistical ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:24 AM
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Wtf are u talking about lol. You didn’t address anything I said in my post. And yea, for the most part empathy won’t change the material conditions of these men’s reality. I.E getting no pussy. So won’t really make a difference for these guys in the long run. Much like giving a homeless man “empathy” won’t help the fact he doesn’t have a roof over his head. That was my point. Now address what I actually said or end the convo lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:15 AM
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Red pill made me lose some empathy for women. Watching the girls I had feelings for go for exactly the types of guys red pill said they go for in my formative years made me realize how much y’all play a hand in your own troubles. The Red Pill bs exists because these are how the women these guys go for act. Usually younger women 18-25. It doesn’t exist because “men bad”, it exists because this is what all of you women seem to want in your late teens and early 20’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:14 AM
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These dudes don’t want empathy lmaooo. They want some coochie. All that other stuff unnecessary. But jokes aside I do feel for my struggling brothers out there. Constant rejection is killer
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:07 AM
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Henry Kissinger would like to have a word
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 01:44 AM
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The dating scene is mostly influenced by women’s preferences. You guys have most of the power, not us. The majority of you only want a small minority of men. Most men change themselves to fit the narrow and high standards you guys have, in terms of physical attractiveness. The dating choices you guys make also heavily affect how men act. Casual sex and emotional unavailability is rampant because that is the culture you guys fostered. Either tell your fellow sisters to stop being trash, or we’ll …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 12:05 AM
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Chaos and entropy govern how things happen. There are no overarching moralistic laws that determine what happens to people. The worst mfs on the planet are living amazingly happy lives rn
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 08:25 PM
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Karma isn’t real sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 05:59 PM
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Nobody here is saying Chad just sends “wanna fuck” and women open their legs. They’re saying women are more open to casual arrangements, and through the use of euphemisms and tact language more attractive guys can get that farrr more easily than average men. It’s called having game and being good looking. The guy in OP’s post didn’t even have a place to fuck at, he did it in his car. That’s like highschool level shit right there. Most guys gotta take her out to atleast 2-3 dates before getting a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 04:56 PM
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I personally only date BW (I treat any girl I date well lol) but I see where u comin from. I grew up in a suburban area as well and there’s a bunch if black dudes that simp for non blacks n it makes me shake my head. I have very non-Eurocentric features and growing up I was made fun of for it. Told I had shotgun nostrils, called midnight, that sort of stuff lmaoo. The lighter skinned dudes and mixed raced guys had it easier dating than me because of their eurocentric features. I eventually grew …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 04:16 PM
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Certainly, but they are still advantages that y’all get to indulge in on a day to day basis. These are still my reality, even if they were imposed by a bunch of old white men from a time before I was even born.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 02:28 PM
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Most BM that die at the hands of police never get the news coverage, same as black women. The fact that black male victims are more in the media has to do with the fact more black men die at the hands of police than black women. Should black women get equal coverage tho? Hell yes. BW are not at the bottom of the totem pole lol. Y’all vastly overestimate how easy it is to date as a black man. The average black man has far less dating options than the average black woman. The fact that black men d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 02:26 PM
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Sympathy when it comes to mental issues/depression Not having to adhere to toxic masculinity (imposed by both men and women) Less likelihood of dying a violent death Greater likelihood of finding a partner that fits all/most of your criteria More concrete support structures Less pressure to be successful from a young age General ability to enjoy life more, even with less money on hand
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 02:20 PM
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The point was that women have it easier than men. Not that women have it completely easy. Of course tinder is gonna have sucky moments for you, it’s tinder. But for men, it makes them feel invalid as social and sexual entities. Your struggle is wading through dickheads to find the guy worth having sex with. Men’s struggle is finding anybody to even interact with them. And the types of men that deal with this range from neckbeards to perfectly normal average guys. We have emotions too lol. And fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 02:14 PM
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Feeling “unsafe” is like y’all’s trump card to literally every other advantage women have. There are multiple safeguards you can take before and while meeting an individual to mitigate this. You could also only date mfs in your social circle, but that’s increasingly being phased out. Would you rather live in dead silence, or live a life with a little but or risk? Y’all have the privilege of being able to “figure out what you like” in a partner your whole 20’s. Most men do not. Y’all have the pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 01:54 PM
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Black suburban women have it relatively easy as well don’t get it twisted. Unless you’re tall, clouted up, a ball player or rich, life is tough as a black man. Y’all still have it markedly easier than black men, when it pertains to dating. There are other institutional factors that make life incredibly hard for black women, but those affect black men as well. The extent of these affects is up for debate
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 01:49 PM
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Yea, you’re probably right. It’s just fun to argue on this silly subreddit and rile up emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 12:51 AM
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Because it’s been conditioned in us since childhood that getting girls = being a good person, desirable, popular, good looking, and a whole host of other good qualities. And contrary to your point, both men and women put sexually successful men on a pedestal. So yea, being the dude that cuddles with her at night while watching harry potter< being the bootycall.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 12:53 PM
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They’re not high valued in the criteria I, and other young men wanna be valued in. Being the boyfriend/husband to a Gen Z/Millenial woman is not the prize lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 12:43 PM
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Being the boyfriend/husband is not the prize lol to me as a man. Being the dude that can get her with no commitment is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 12:20 PM
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He’s a human being that likes sex, sees the fact that he is treated worse in the aspects of sex, and is frustrated because of that. No entitlement, no devious agenda, simply a human being with emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:35 AM
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That’s what we say lol. But y’all gaslight us and say “but no the boyfriend/husband is the real winner” when we all know that’s a lie. Hems just the guy that met your criteria and was willing to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:32 AM
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They are transactional. There are conditions to sex, material conditions that must be met before it can occur. Some men need far more material conditions in their favor to have sex compared to others. Why? Because they’re not as sexually arousing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:30 AM
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It’s like being a manager at a minimum wage job. Nobody really wants to do it and you’re basically doing a shitload of work for marginally better pay. While another guy just scams all day on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:28 AM
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I definitely don’t have a plan when going to the gas station. I think just like you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 01:19 AM
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They lie lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 01:16 AM
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As a man Quantity>Quality until you’re ready to settle down So yea, the guy with 5 girls arguing over him is far more desirable than Jack over here. 300 followers is meh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 10:37 PM
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I absolutely agree. Yet y’all will still continue to date these men, a shame
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 10:21 PM
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Women have controlled men with their shaming tactics to the point where you can’t even have standards and self respect any longer lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 09:44 PM
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Lmaoo they swear we’re just sweaty nerds who don’t interact with reality. Never trust what the internet says. All of these thoughts in my head were present farrr before I came across PPD or that Red Pill bs. And they were formed mainly in my formative years with the way the women around me acted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 09:34 PM
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Lmaoo I’ll be the first guy to admit men are trash. I see it firsthand with the people in my city. The thing is, these “trash” dudes are the same ones women go to the most. They can’t stay away from them. He’s the dude that got the active roster of 5 girls cussing each other out on social media, not Jack over here who’s average looking with 300 followers on twitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 09:33 PM
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Again, I don’t care if I’m the hottest guy she’s ever dated. But I do care if she finds me really attractive physically. Because why am I with her if she doesn’t? To be her handyman? To pay her bills? To be a shoulder to cry on when work is hard? To do the dishes, take out the trash and mow the lawn? Yea I’d like her to want my physically first, and then my boyfriend qualities be the icing on the cake. Otherwise I’m setting myself up to be treated terribly in the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 09:31 PM
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Nothing:), that was my one and only point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 09:18 PM
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This is life I think you mistook my point. These men need to do all those things to become attractive to their woman when another man doesn’t. Their women would be absolutely disgusted by them if they solely wanted a casual arrangement when they wouldn’t be disgusted bu another man. That’s the point. Levels to physical attraction. As a guy, if you want the romantic relationship to have the most likelyhood of being successful, you better hope you’re the guy she’d have sex with on an unconditional…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 09:18 PM
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Should I lay off reality as well? Cuz I literally see this all the time. Women going crazy, risking prison sentences for the dudes they date, accepting cheating, disrespect, physical abuse etc. Jus cuz he’s hot and has clout.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 09:10 PM
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Holy shit you’re unhinged lol. Nobody wants to legalize rape nor murder women. Pointing out y’all’s insufficiencies in our eyes really got you acting deranged rn
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 09:06 PM
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Yea real emotionally mature to accept shitty treatment lmaoo. Real big and mature of you to turn a blind eye to your supposed life partner being more aroused and desiring another human being more than you. Real mature, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 09:03 PM
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People take for granted what is easily attainable. The fact of the matter is you have to be incredibly attractive to partake in casual sex as a man. That itself is a validator of a man’s attractiveness. Not whether she wants to cuddle and watch harry fucking potter with you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 08:53 PM
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Height is something imposed by women and mainly women. Fullstop. Women care far more about height than men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 08:45 PM
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That’s the thing, I can be with someone long term, without having it feel like boring administrative work. There’s nuance, there’s varying standards. If you like consistent boredom, that’s your cup of tea. I like to actually like the human being I date and have a great connection with them physically and emotionally to the point where the boring moments are occasional, not the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 06:09 PM
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Okay, I’ll humor you. If it is conditional. There a vastly different conditions between certain men. Some men simply need to have a place, a car and their face. Others need to know her intimately, prove to her over the course of weeks to months that they actually like her, spend potentially thousands of dollars and be a genuinely good human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 06:07 PM
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Lmaooo they’ll hit you wit that “you asked me out” as if they don’t know damn well most of them only shoot they shot at the cream of the crop dudes. They know what they doing bruh and the power they have. They just wanna keep the victimhood mentality going
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 06:01 PM
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Because odds are, you’re not the guy she actually wanted. In fact a lot of these hoes feel surprised when they actually fall in love with they boyfriends😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:58 PM
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I’d rather be in a short term high energy arrangement with a woman than the relationship equivalent of boring administrative desk work
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:56 PM
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Literally, she’ll “punish” by withholding the cat. Cuz she never even liked you in that way to begin with. She was jus puttin up with you for the boyfriend benefits
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:50 PM
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Especially wit Gen Z women bruh. The boyfriend gets disrespected in ways the FWB and ONS would never. Imagine ya girl only putting up with you because her plan A was a fuckboy. You betta pray to God she actually fall in love with you cus otherwise you’re in for a bumpy road.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:48 PM
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Literally never said I want to be the most attractive. Just that I want to feel like I’m very attractive to my partner. I want to feel like my partner genuinely desires me physically, as opposed to “meh”. Never once did I say I wanna be the best. Just because I process relationships and emotions differently than you doesn’t make me an idiot. You honestly sound like you treat every relationship you’re in like a deathly boring bureaucrat. Strictly business, no fun. Like you have no actual passion …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:40 PM
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If your partner treats you differently than the hottest partner he’s ever had I’m sure you’d have a problem with that. And if you don’t that’s on you, I personally want better for myself. If my girl is treating the hot guy with way more interest and passion in the short term relationship she had with him than she is with me then that’s a problem. I’m “insecure” for wanting my partner to desire me? Whatever you say not gonna feel shame for a valid feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:30 PM
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Yep, men do it too. And that’s a bad thing. It’s a problem with both genders and I doubt anybody would want to be the less attractive partner. Yet men on this subreddit are told to be okay with it. Any man that states not to settle for a girl that isn’t that attracted to him is told he’s an asshole etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:28 PM
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I’m egotistical cause I want my girl to consider me more than her bare minimum looks wise? Yea ight femme. A guess a lot of men out here are egotistical maniacs And my point still stands. Her settling looks wise is a terrible recipe for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:22 PM
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Not about who’s hotter. About being desired. I certainly don’t want a woman who considers me the bare minimum of her attractiveness threshold. Or is “settling” for me looks wise. Her thinking you’re meh looks wise and a good boyfriend< Her thinking you’re hot and a good boyfriend. And the fact that most women wouldn’t have casual sex with their boyfriends tells me a lot of boyfriends are “meh” looks wise to their girls. Couldn’t be me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:18 PM
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For a lot of other women, particularly in my experience, the guys they’d have sex with casually are a few attractiveness point above the guys they’d have as boyfriends. Boyfriend guys “make up” for their looks with their personality. I.E less sexual desire. More boring relationship shit like taking out the trash, washing dishes and paying her bills. Sex also seems to be used as a reward for these guys as well, rather than a joint, enthusiastic sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:13 PM
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They’re definitely interested in short term situations. Just not with the men they have serious relationships with. Why? Because the short term dudes won’t commit. All things considered, if short term guy and long term guy both decided they want to put the same level of commitment in, women would overwhelmingly choose short term guy for a serious relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:09 PM
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But the fact of the matter is, sex with “Chad” (cringe fucking term) is unconditional whereas sex with boyfriend material guys is contingent on him being a good person. That’s where the resentment comes from. Obviously if you’re having sex with someone who requires no other things but the sex you desire them more
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:06 PM
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They would if they didn’t need relationships to get sex. The hot guy gets it without commitment, they don’t. That’s where the jealousy comes from. Jealousy to the point where they can’t believe their girl actually likes them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:02 PM
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How am I making up strawmen? The “you” is a hypothetical, not literal. The only “you” that is applicable to you is the comment on how your behavior directly affects the men around you. Not saying you’ve done this, but if guys interested in you see you sleep with a questionable character that doesn’t care about you, they’ll get the idea that that’s what they have to do. If women as a whole continue to sexually validate bad acting men, more men will become bad actors. Monkey see monkey do. The rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:06 AM
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Sure I guess. All I’m saying is women play a hand in men’s shitty behavior since they tend to select shitty guys
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:22 AM
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Yet ironically, these men continually attract the most women. Sad, but it is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:58 PM
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No mass attention to men’s suicide rates, general lack of empathy for men/toxic masculinity, women unwilling to date men that make less than them, the inherent disposability of men etc etc. God forbid you are a minority, poor, homeless etc. as a male. You’re even more worthless to society based on how they treat you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:02 PM
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Yet, your behaviors and women’s behaviors as a whole have a direct influence on men’s behavior. Since they’re usually the one’s chasing. Refusing to acknowledge that is only hurting yourselves in the long run. Continually having sex with deplorable men while lamenting how men are trash will only make more men become trash in an effort to have sex with you. Since that’s what is proven to attract you. Even if the trashness of the man isn’t what actually attracted you to him. I don’t know how to ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:50 PM
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Yea, women validate shitty behavior the most from men. Other men see this and become shitty themselves. No man is gonna act in a way that gets him less pussy, so ask yourself, why do the men think this strategy is successful? Pro tip: It’s because they see shittiness actively being more successful than being an ally of women and being a genuinely good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:43 PM
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I mean, I don’t see the problem with that. If women continue to only sleep with “trash” men while telling proclaiming how men who do this and that are the best, it sends a confusing picture. Because you shouldn’t be attracted to a trash individual, you shouldn’t be having sex with them. If you’re gonna partake in sex, it should atleast be with those you consider to be good humans lol. That’s why verbal commendations would be worthless to most men. And why most men would be inclined to act like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:39 PM
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It’s all fun and games until every guy sees how being a fuckboy is successful and screws all of you over
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:35 PM
1

Men have no value at all. Until they prove themselves. Women have the capabilities for the same value as men, as well as inherent sexual value from a young age. This shapes and morphs how the average woman views the world growing up vs how the average man views the world
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:34 PM
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Just look at the reaction of NBA player PJ Washington(22) being taken advantage by Brittany Renner(29). i’ve yet to see a single woman talk about how she manipulated and exploited him for his money. Everyone has been clowning him for being an idiot that should’ve seen it coming. Yet a 25 year old woman dating a 33 year old man has the potentiality to be “taken advantage of” on the basis of her age like she isn’t a grown adult
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:32 PM
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Huey Newton was a badass
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:23 PM
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Sexual value as opposed to no value…hmm this is an incredibly hard choice
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:08 PM
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I’m saying always because for the most part, men can bet that the woman they’re asking out on a date will not offer to pay. This is the experience of most guys. I’m glad that you’re different, your man is lucky. But it’s tough out here for egalitarian minded men. I’m expected to uphold masculine traits that benefit women while suppressing every other aspect of me. While the women I date make no effort to forego their own gender roles except in ways that benefit themz
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 06:36 PM
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Basic human rights aren’t the best barometer of whether or not men have “value”. Those are symptoms of the material conditions of a society, not done because men have inherent value. Third world countries incapable of supplying these public services for men do not hinder not bolster your argument. It’s two different things
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:57 PM
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Most average guys out here with bottom barrel standards would love to have a “fuckable” girl as a gf. Regardless of whether they like her personality or not. Maybe focus on them and not the sleazy guys with 5 girls in their phones at once. But that’s who most of y’all go for anyhoo😅
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 01:24 PM
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Who said I have a lack of success in dating? You do not know me weirdo. This is from my experiences dating. They always have a backup option. They’re always playing a passive role. Wanting the man to set up the date, to ask her out, to pay, to initiate. Sometimes they date multiple men at once and go for the man who provides the most and spends the most on her. I’m not moralizing any of this for looking for your weirdo sympathy. I’m simply speaking on objective reality. They can afford to be mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 01:22 PM
1

That sounds like the most basic guy ever lmaoo. He’s not unique either you’re entirely correct
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 01:12 PM
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“Get laid right now or you’re a loser” lol a mans value isn’t determined by which ever wet hole he sticks his pecker in. Thanks for putting pussy on a pedestal tho. You’re proving our point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 01:08 PM
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Your address was unsatisfactory
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 01:06 PM
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So you go to an PWI with privileged white boys and rich kids and think that describes how life is for the average man? Young men, in their 20’s have absolutely no value for the most part. That’s why most men don’t even get a good amount of options till they get older. The only value I have as a young man in college is that my country can call my name up to go die in a jungle or in a sand dune. That’s about it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 01:04 PM
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Men are definitely not seen as valuable just for being “alive”. What galaxy do you live in??
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 01:01 PM
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Yikes, this post is just…yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 01:00 PM
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Men “have to do things” to be treated as more than the sexual equivalent of a lamp post unless they’re already genetically attractive…so yea. I have to work in society to not be homeless…so yea. I have to be funny and outgoing to people to have friends…so yea. If you don’t want to be treated as a sex object, benefit men in ways more than just sex. Monetarily and effort wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:57 PM
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It can’t be the same lol. Women by and far have more options then men. Thusly they can afford to treat more men as disposable. And I hope you’re not trying to argue that women don’t take a passive role in dating and courtship. Because that’s a well known trope of them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:49 PM
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This is the same argument nice guys make. “Not all men”. We’re literally telling you most women do not take an active role in their relationships and treat their man well, until, maybe*, well after a title has been established. In the first few months of the potential relationship the man always does all of the work. Thusly, women objectify themselves and make themselves an object to be won. This isn’t saying you all deserved to be treated like holes with no emotions, it’s just a critique of how…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:43 PM
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Most women who aren’t obese or disfigured are attractive to most men tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:38 PM
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This isn’t very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:37 PM
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She’s not yours, it’s just your turn
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:29 AM
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Sure, if you’re looking for a relationship with a woman who won’t actually appreciate you and drop you 6 months later, you can afford to be the bare minimum. A lot harder to find a girlfriend when you actually have standards and want someone who wants you back just as much. As opposed to most women who settle for their men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:26 AM
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Young men tend to be unmarried and also tend to die more. Therefore skewing the “men live longer while married” analysis
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:12 AM
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Guess I’m hella insecure then innit? Not gonna get shamed into being in a dynamic I’m not comfortable in
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:58 PM
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As long as they know there’s others in the picture. Can’t fw a girl that moves like that but there’s plenty of guys with no problem with it. To each their own, do what works for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 04:53 AM
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The fact you have a roster or intend to is exactly why men move the way we do lol. We’re both just racing towards screwing each other over as effectively as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 03:26 AM
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That’s exactly what OP is stating lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:39 PM
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Yet there are realities for certain men where they don’t need to be objectified by their wallet to attract women. I’ll find someone that sees me as human first, and a product of capitalism second. Thank you very much
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 02:50 PM
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That’s great, but you’re just trying to invent some convoluted way of saying you don’t wanna date a bum. Just say that. Say you want a man that makes atleast as much money as you. That’s your main point anyways, not the makeup, not doing it for yourself. You just want a man that’s atleast as financially stable as you. And you’re leveraging your beauty as a way to find a man like that. That’s it, thats the reddit post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 02:46 PM
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I.E objectify yourself to your looks and objectify men to their wallets. I love the dystopian reality we live in!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 02:43 PM
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This is such a lie lol. You’re not doing it to attract men, but will only date men capable of paying for the upkeep process. Amazing cognitive dissonance on display. Incroyable, brilliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 02:39 PM
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