Bassist57 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
65	Why Should Men Get Married?		Bassist57	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/23 06:05 PM

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
35	Terrible mother Evil mother.	/r/EverydayMisandry	23/07/26 07:41 PM
24	Plenty of Women Do Things Like This Check out Fetlife and you’ll see what women are into.	/r/EverydayMisandry	13/06/26 12:35 AM
3	Would you leave this woman? Not a dealbreaker IMO.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 01:25 AM
-14	People Blaming a Man for Being Sexually Assaulted by His Mother A son kissing his mother on the lips is pretty gross, not gonna lie.	/r/EverydayMisandry	08/05/26 01:46 AM
–	Sex robots are imminent Absolutely messed up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 12:04 AM
1	Typing in "misogyny" vs "misandry" into Google. Interesting... Misandry is considered ok by modern society. Misogyny is rightfully condemned, change my mind.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	29/03/26 01:16 AM
7	Men think women “have it easy” on dating apps. Let’s run a thought experiment. As a man I would 100% download that app! Seriously, on modern dating apps, way better to be a woman with tons and tons of options vs. 90% of men on the apps who have basically no options.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/26 04:36 PM
1	Most women in "open" relationships would instantly break up if their husbands or boyfriends slept with another man. Yup, 9/10 “open” relationships I’ve seen is that the wife/girlfriend gets to sleep around and the husband/boyfriend very rarely gets any from his partner, and certainly not any from other women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/26 09:24 PM
14	Posted recently on a popular feminist sub My guess is probably the TwoX sub. It’s a seething pit of Misandry there.	/r/EverydayMisandry	15/01/26 12:21 AM
5	When it’s about why white men go abroad to marry immigrants, every comments trying to bring nuance gets downvoted. Oh god, Crash Out Kylie…	/r/EverydayMisandry	12/01/26 03:28 PM
-1	Do you believe women have higher income standards now? Vast majority of women on Onlyfans make bank because of dumb simp men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/25 06:53 AM
0	Do you believe women have higher income standards now? Women make absolute bank on Onlyfans.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/25 06:11 AM
1	Do you believe women have higher income standards now? They are women, and high earning women, why are they not a good representation? Onlyfans is a great way to make even average women incredibly wealthy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/25 12:58 AM
0	Do you believe women have higher income standards now? Yes, watch the Whatever podcast. Some of those income requirements are insane!	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 11:39 PM
3	How can the gender- disparity in single rates among young people be explained? 80% of women go for the top 20% of men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/25 10:57 PM
–	As men we have to face the reality that we are being hypocritical and delusional sometimes when calling out women's standards! Men judge women on things women can change, like weight, facial attractiveness (makeup to fix it), height (rare, but women have high heels), breast size (easily changed by implants) and hair (easily changed for women). Women judge men on things that cannot be changed, like facial attractiveness (makeup is not an option for men), height, and penis size. Those can’t be changed. IMO, women are more shallow, judging men on things they cannot change.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/25 01:21 AM
–	Cuck men are embarrassing… Cuck is a guy who lets his gf/wife get fucked by other men, and is ok with it. That’s where the jokes about “I’m sure his wife’s boyfriend loves it!” come from.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/25 11:16 PM
11	Newsflash: Even IF women approached more, not a whole lot would really change. Exactly. Women are happy to share a high value man. Like a modern day harem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/25 05:38 PM
20	When men say they cant be vulnerable, they mean they cant wallow in self pity 24/7 and get pity sex as treatment. Yup, women want men to open up emotionally so that they can weaponize an incident of emotional weakness at a later time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/25 03:23 PM
0	Men should always do the bear minimum Dont get married. Marriage only benefits the wife. She can cheat and divorce you and take half your stuff because of the awful no fault divorce laws. Just have a long term relationship and don’t get the government involved.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/25 01:51 AM
8	You're Replaceable Society has always viewed men as expendable, as we have no inherent value. Even Feminists who believe in “equality” treat men as expendable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/25 06:14 PM
0	What options do high income women have? I find there are way more men who would be fine being with a woman who makes more than them than women who are fine being with a man who makes less than them. Like 95%+ of women flat out refuse to date a man who makes less than them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/25 03:34 PM
2	Men are shallow as well Women have makeup. And men who wear makeup is condemned by at least 95+% of women, as they don’t want a man who wears makeup, as it is a feminine thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/25 02:34 AM
2	Men are shallow as well My issue with shallowness is that men judge women on things they can control (facial attractiveness, breast size, weight) while women judge men on things they can’t control (facial attractiveness, height, penis size).	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/25 12:26 AM
2	The same women who would call out men for body-shaming or slut-shaming use sexuality as a weapon the moment their pride takes a hit Women are slut shamed, and a woman being a virgin is prized. Men don’t get slut shamed, but do get virgin shamed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/25 07:34 PM
–	Q4M: Does women shaming your sexuality feel dehumanizing? Women are slut shamed, men are virgin shamed. Double standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/25 07:24 PM
2	Q4W: Why such a hostile, negative reaction to a woman proposing to a man? Not all, but many. And women like to say men are a monolith too, just saying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/25 11:48 PM
11	Q4W: Why such a hostile, negative reaction to a woman proposing to a man? You are forgetting lots of Feminists who say they want equality, but really only when it benefits them. Tons of Feminists expect men to pay 100% on dates, men have to propose, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/25 09:23 PM
–	Memoir: Kamala Harris: I Lost Young Men to the Manosphere Democrats: Keep insulting men, blaming men for all the world’s problems, make misandry mainstream, shame men for things they cannot control/are born with. Also Democrats: “Why won’t men vote for us?” 😆	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/25 08:52 PM
12	No, women don't wanna be mothers not because environment is bad. I’m a man, and I don’t want kids because 1) kids are super expensive 2) I like having my free time and money going all to me and 3) I can’t stand babies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/10/25 11:32 PM
3	Would you date a 35 year old woman who is otherwise your looksmatch? Get ready to be a post on r/twoxchromosomes about MEN ARE TRASH!!!!!!	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/25 12:38 AM
14	Young women are dating the same terrible men Yup, and then those women say things like “men are trash”, because they think all men are like the crappy men they date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/25 04:35 PM
–	why do men hate sluts so much, instead of just feeling neutral? I find women to be way harsher and mean to promiscuous women than men are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/25 01:56 PM
-7	If Women are hypergamous, then Men are the Prize. Make her work for it. Why are you simping so hard? Almost 2/3rds of women are hypergamous, a majority. Statistics confirm it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/25 10:56 PM
-4	If Women are hypergamous, then Men are the Prize. Make her work for it. Ok, it’s like 63%, but almost 2/3rds of women: https://ifstudies.org/blog/women-still-marry-up-but-the-income-gap-is-narrowing#:~:text=In%202023%2C%2063%25%20of%20recently%20married%20young%2Dadult%20women,5%25%20had%20the%20same%20income.&text=The%20percentage%20of%20women%20who,it%20was%20at%2066%20percent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/25 10:44 PM
-1	If Women are hypergamous, then Men are the Prize. Make her work for it. Women are like 90+% hypergamous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/25 10:39 PM
4	There has never been a gender war only war on women I find it arguably the most hateful subreddit. Surprised it hasn’t been banned, but I guess female privilege. Women can say “men are trash”, but if a male subreddit says “women are trash”, you know they’d be instabanned.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/25 01:17 AM
1	There has never been a gender war only war on women r/TwoXChromosomes is the bleeding heart of Misandry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/25 11:56 PM
1	If a man tell you to shut-up do you think it’s wise to keep talking Femsplaining is as much a thing as Mansplaining.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/25 02:16 AM
–	Why men aren't as worried about the way they look as women are? Because men can't change their appearance that much as compared to women. There's a lot of things men are just born with and it will never change. Women can change basically anything about themselves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/25 07:32 PM
12	Plenty of men are shallow unattractive assholes who never wanted to be good men. Yes, and plenty of women are unattractive assholes who want to blame men for all their problems.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/25 09:30 PM
6	Has feminism gone too far in the west? Men having to register for the draft to get basic civil rights while women don’t is blatant sexism. And Feminists love it!	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/25 03:47 AM
7	Has feminism gone too far in the west? Feminism in the West is now Female supremacy vs equal rights.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/25 02:12 AM
19	Women judge men for promiscuity! Women judge men for being virgins, something men can't control. Men judge women for sleeping around a lot, something women can control. That's the difference.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/25 12:40 AM
26	CMV: We need to bring back Ladies Night (free entry) Ladies Nights are flat out sex discrimination against men. If they’re disappearing, GOOD!	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/25 03:37 PM
-11	“I won’t donate my organs because I don’t want them saving a man.” The Democratic party is not a party, it is a mental condition!	/r/EverydayMisandry	01/09/25 02:44 AM
–	Misandry creates MORE misogynists. Violence is not the only way a woman can hurt a man…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/25 11:15 PM
–	Society Hates Men Who Adapt to the "New Normal" Created by Feminism Feminists want men to be soy boy, feminine, liberal cucks. However, most women want a masculine man. It’s tough.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/25 09:47 PM
2	Society Hates Men Who Adapt to the "New Normal" Created by Feminism A child is half the man’s, half the woman’s. If she doesnt want to get an abortion, he should be able to sign away his paternal rights and financial obligations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/25 09:46 PM
–	Men are more hypergamous than women. Women are the gatekeepers. Unless you are a 6, 6, 6 man, you need major game that most men don’t have. Women have inherent value and are picky with their partners.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/25 03:13 AM
8	Why Don’t You Use Condoms? The data is in and we know you’re raw dawgin, so tell us why… Pulling out is basically like no protection.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/25 02:04 AM
2	What are your thoughts on woman's "expiration date"? MILFs exist, so lots of men obviously like older women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 12:18 AM
2	Men are honestly shooting themselves in the foot by dating very young women Be happily single like me! I own my own house, live near my family, have my in person Warhammer groups on the weekends, all my money is mine, life is good! Men don’t need a woman to have a good life!	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/25 05:15 AM
5	If women actually had such good personalities - men would just hire them to ghost write their dating profiles and chats. Im not bi, I’m straight.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/25 02:13 AM
9	If women actually had such good personalities - men would just hire them to ghost write their dating profiles and chats. Rule 1 of being a man. Never listen to women on advice on dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/25 12:43 AM
1	The expectation for men to pursue, initiate, or "lead" is born out of misogyny Cool, I’d love for women to ask men out more often. But they don’t.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/25 10:56 PM
9	High value virgin women dont wan't sexually unsuccessful men Very true. Virgin women are prized. Virgin men are seen as a disgrace.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 10:29 PM
0	There is No hook up culture Women get mad when HVM wont wife them up, because women clamor to be with HVM, and be part of his Harem. HVM use tons of women for sex, and only wife up the actually good women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/25 01:47 AM
–	The female orgasm is a myth Nice troll post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/25 12:24 AM
1	Most men won't succeed on dating apps 20% of men get 80% of the women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 05:59 PM
12	Men need to be aware that they are easily replaceable The top 20% of men have options. If you're in the lower 80%, you have way less options than the average woman has.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 06:29 PM
1	Hey PPD! What is an unpopular opinion that you are thoroughly convinced is true about modern dating after many years? Preferences that men have are seen as discriminatory. Preferences women have are very much accepted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/25 12:05 AM
8	Women have sexual needs just as much as men do if not more so People always forget that Men get virgin shamed, whereas Women virgins are highly prized and sought after.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 10:56 PM
3	Until men are allowed male-specific and non-feminist spaces the sex war will not end. Women can become Freemasons…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 10:26 PM
5	Why men who provide security are boring ? I agree, that’s the tough part. Men who make a lot of money generally are very busy. Don’t have as much time for their women, which leads to the woman to cheat.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/25 01:13 AM
14	Do most older males want younger females in the animal kingdom also or just humans? I dont think most animals know about age.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/25 01:07 AM
3	Men are entitled to paternity tests but not relationships. You do know paternity fraud happens though, right? There are women who knowingly cheat, have the baby of their sneakylink, and then emotionally manipulate their husband to not get a paternity test, and he has to take care of another man's child for life. It happens.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/25 09:15 PM
1	Why do men think its unfair that they have to pay for their kids? Women can avoid having to get an abortion by taking birth control and not having sex with asshole guys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/25 02:37 PM
–	CMV: if you’re born ugly as a guy there’s very little you can do to compensate Well, and most women will not date down. They insist men have to make more than them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/25 11:13 PM
10	Women want men to be like women. Men want women to be like men. If a woman plays with your ass, it's not gay. Gay is when you are having sex with a man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/25 12:03 AM
1	Selective Service is not proof that men have harder lives Honestly, good for draft dodgers. The draft is archaic and enslaves men to die for the government in pointless wars.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/25 04:17 AM
-1	Selective Service is not proof that men have harder lives Zero chance women get drafted with the Feminist lobby opposing women being drafted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/25 04:16 AM
2	Selective Service is not proof that men have harder lives You do realize neither party gives a crap about men’s issues, right? Republicans simply don’t care, while Democrats are even at times hostile towards men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/25 04:15 AM
5	Selective Service is not proof that men have harder lives So where’s the Violence against Men Act, whereas men are the majority of victims of violent crime? Where are the male only domestic violence safety shelters? Just to name a few.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/25 04:12 AM
18	Selective Service is not proof that men have harder lives Very true. Society works very hard to give women all kinds of support and resources if they face hardship. For men, they just throw you to the dogs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/25 11:46 PM
10	Selective Service is not proof that men have harder lives Have you seen the state of the world right now? It is a very realistic possibility that WW3 could break out and young men would be drafted. It is oppression that to have the same rights as women, men have to sign up for the draft (women do not have to register). If the draft is called in, those men are made into essentially slaves to the government, and can be sent to go die somewhere in Siberia if the government so chooses, simply because of his sex. Men can be turned into slaves simply due to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/25 11:44 PM
–	Feminists are just mad at TRP men for gaming the system that Feminism created I've learned modern women seem to be fine being part of a harem for a high value man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/25 05:46 PM
-2	Meaningless sex as an option is better than no options at all Society despises virgin men, that’s why.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/25 02:50 AM
5	Should virgin women over a certain age just “give it up”? What age does it become weird for a woman to be a virgin? Ala Pearl Davis’s argument I do not know any guy who thinks female virgins are weird. Female virgins are prized and desired. However, male virgins are never seen as a good thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/25 02:24 AM
3	My take on how society has failed men and has contributed to extreme red pill ideology. I said in a crisis, not just mental health. Crisis means a lot of things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/25 10:10 PM
0	My take on how society has failed men and has contributed to extreme red pill ideology. Government gives much more funding and resources to women specific programs. There basically are no government programs specifically for men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/25 09:56 PM
12	My take on how society has failed men and has contributed to extreme red pill ideology. Domestic violence shelters for one, as well as many states have programs specifically to help women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/25 09:53 PM
10	My take on how society has failed men and has contributed to extreme red pill ideology. Women have far more resources available to them during a hardship, and are less stigmatized for getting help with mental health.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/25 08:38 PM
2	The "If she did it with an ex, she should do it with me" rule applies to pegging Im a guy, and a woman into pegging is very sexy. The male G-spot is in the ass, and it is not gay if a woman is penetrating you. I don’t get the stigma around pegging.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 01:25 AM
4	Q4Men: what does a society that prioritizes men do? Modern western society is very gynocentric.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/25 12:25 AM
0	Sexual double standard is irrational So what’s your thoughts on the virginity double standard? Female virgins are praised and desired, while male virgins are ridiculed and mocked.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 11:29 AM
13	Generally speaking, women are bad at taking initiative. Isn’t that what Feminism says women should do? Be more assertive, take what you want, don’t be submissive, be a girl boss!	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/25 10:30 PM
–	Being attractive as a man is too complicated and very rare I do think it’s more difficult for an average man to become an attractive man vs an average woman to become an attractive woman. A lot is genetics for men. You can’t change your face, height, dick size, bone structure, etc. Muscles you can change by working out, but for a lot of women if a man is below 6 feet tall, he’s automatically out. Women can change their height with heels, change their facial appearance with makeup, change their weight by eating healthy and working out, can get breast imp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 01:13 AM
2	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions It is the law in the United States.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 01:44 AM
6	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions Do you think it’s fair that a man who is raped by a woman, who then gets pregnant and keeps the baby, has to pay her child support? Because that is the law of the land, male rape victims have to pay child support to their rapist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 12:28 AM
–	How Women Have Devalued the Role of Boyfriend in Modern Dating Men are expendable. Our gynocentric society enables that. That is the answer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 04:51 AM
26	Men treat men worse than women do 2X is such a seething cesspool of misandry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/24 05:01 PM
15	Why are so many women in their 30s and 40s single, childless, and dissatisfied with their dating prospects? The wall is not 30. Plenty of people get married and have kids in their 30s. 40s starts getting tough if you want to have kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 04:39 PM
1	Cultural changes that might help the current gender issues Non-monogamous relationships pretty much only benefit the woman because of the vast ease she has of getting sex. Basically, it’s the guy agreeing to be a cuckold.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 05:52 AM
–	Society has given women a free pass for their standards while condemning men for theirs There are a lot of older women not wanting to be judged being with an 18 year old man because he makes her happy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 03:21 AM
6	Is Colorful Dyed Hair as disliked by men as it appears to be online and why? As a man, I hate it. Blonde, black, brunette, redhead, all good! Weird purple or blue hair, unattractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 03:17 AM
–	Society has given women a free pass for their standards while condemning men for theirs Would you want your 18 year old son marrying a 40 year old woman?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/24 07:44 PM
–	Is The Denial That Misandry Exists The Worst Misandry? I wouldn't say you're a misandrist, but what would you call men who say they wouldn't date a fat woman? I'd agree women worry more about safety, though men have to worry about getting with a crazy woman who lies about being on the pill or pokes holes in condoms, trapping the man. Women have an advantage regarding pregnancy in that most states they can get abortions or travel to a state for an abortion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 11:44 PM
1	Women have more Ick’s than men I don’t know a single straight man who talks about women giving him the “ick” (the actual word).	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 03:00 AM
-8	Relationships are a much bigger investment for men than they are for women Yup, women can legally trap a guy by lying about birth control and/or poking holes in condoms, setting her up for life with his money. It’s disgusting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/24 01:46 AM
–	Me Too Has Been a Disaster for Feminism and Society I can’t believe people think “Believe All Women” is a good slogan. Men lie, women lie. Your sex doesn’t mean you’re more or less truthful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 06:35 PM
0	Why are women so paranoid about men's behaviour? It is a cesspool of Misandry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 12:02 AM
-3	International Mens day (19th November) It’s because men are expendable, the western world is very gynocentric.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/24 10:17 PM
-2	International Mens day (19th November) Google it, plenty of examples of Feminists trashing fathers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/24 10:16 PM
5	Men should (and are) show less sympathy towards women's issues in dating and in general Unpopular opinion: Men should be allowed to financially abort an unwanted child if the mother has the right to choose.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 01:49 AM
-1	Does a prenup still work in modern day marriages? But what if the woman cheats? Should she get half his stuff?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 01:08 AM
2	Women don't like bad boys any more than men like bad women Some do, but not to the extent women do. I rarely see articles about men fascinating over female convicts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/24 12:57 AM
10	Women don't like bad boys any more than men like bad women Women will screw over their whole life for a “bad boy” because “he’s exciting!”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/24 04:26 AM
3	"males prefer debt-free virgins without tattoos" is a damaging message No one is perfect. In an ideal world, yes, a debt free virgin woman without tattoos would be ideal for majority of men, but a woman like that can be really difficult to find. Also, some men don't care about body count, debt, tattoos, or body piercings.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 02:28 PM
7	American women are way more toxic than most other women Courts HATE bio fathers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/24 11:46 PM
10	American women are way more toxic than most other women *difficult to keep a bio mother from her kid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/24 09:48 PM
0	The attraction for age gap relationships seem one sided to me Have you not heard of Cougars?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/24 02:59 PM
5	Why women reject most men and how men can empathize with them Women believe themselves to be 10s when they aren’t. Men generally understand their value, women seem to think they all deserve a 10man, which is unrealistic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/24 03:32 AM
4	The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilities And have your wife hate you. If it’s standard, no judgement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 11:05 PM
8	The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilities A man has no way of knowing the child is his 100% without a paternity test. With child support/child custody battles taking up a lot of the legal system, mandatory paternity tests would make it way more straightforward in determining the father before he signs the birth certificate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 09:44 PM
39	The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilities Mother should have to pay back child support too. Honestly, government should just make paternity tests mandatory, it’d remove the stigma of a man asking for one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 09:00 PM
7	Why men today struggle in dating I do agree it’s a big deal that women ask where all the masculine men have gone. They’re there, just usually have more conservative views and want a tradwife. Liberal men in general are more effeminate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/24 06:35 AM
4	Double standard re. Male vs female insecurities The fact is, no one gives a shit about men. We are EXPENDABLE. It sucks, but that’s how it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/24 12:37 AM
16	Do women sexually harass men more often? I think women sexually harassing men is VASTLY underreported. Men probably sexually harass women more though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/24 12:51 AM
9	The girlboss vs gold digger dichotomy and why it harms women I'd love to be a househusband for a girlboss. Unfortunately, the vast vast majority of women dont want to date/marry a guy who makes less than them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 06:01 PM
3	To RP men, here's why your mom, even if she gave dating advice, it won't work for you I love my Mom. I don’t go to her for dating advice lol, she’s a boomer. Very different worlds.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/24 11:34 PM
3	Feminists who say, "I support women's wrongs" ... what do you mean? Glad to hear there’s sensible people like you! Man or woman, cheating is never ok. You dont like your partner, then leave! Dont string the along while you have an affair.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/24 10:42 PM
4	Video of women dancing in an office ignites gender war online The video is absolute cringe, I’d hate to work at a place like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 01:35 PM
2	Women's standards aren't high the average man has nothing of value to offer. The top men dont give a shit about the women they’re with. Pump and dump is a thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/24 01:47 AM
3	Women's standards aren't high the average man has nothing of value to offer. Except when those men dont give a shit about the woman and when they nut they’re like “im done”. So many men wont even go down on a woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/24 01:46 AM
7	Women's standards aren't high the average man has nothing of value to offer. Except a lot of the 10-20% men dont give a shit if a woman cums. They think she should be lucky to have them when he nuts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/24 01:41 AM
5	Women's standards aren't high the average man has nothing of value to offer. A lot of women date to have someone who makes more than them support them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/24 01:04 AM
-7	Do more attractive and desirable men tend to do less work to raise their children? Yes, because they know their girlfriend/wife will do the majority of the work because she thinks he's hot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/24 08:28 PM
11	Ethically sex shouldn’t be considered a fundamental need like food, water and shelter. Kind if my issue with free birth control. You’re not gonna die if you don’t have sex, why should it be free if it’s not essential? Spend the small amount of money for contraception if you want to have sex but not a child.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 10:00 PM
-4	Women hate other women Feminists hate Tradwives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/24 04:51 AM
1	Women are NOT for sale SOME women are for sale. They are called Prostitutes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/24 04:38 AM
5	Women pursue fantasy archetypes not actual men: break the fantasy, goodbye relationship Every woman is a princess and she deserves the highest quality man! Any women who settle are bamboozled by the Patriarchy, it’s not their fault if things go wrong!	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/24 02:18 AM
1	Wouldn’t a great leveler of no fault divorce be mandatory prenups? Except if a man requests a paternity test, his wife will see him as untrusting. There are a lot of men who have to pay child support for a child who is not theirs. Just make it mandatory to eliminate the stigma.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/24 02:48 AM
0	Wouldn’t a great leveler of no fault divorce be mandatory prenups? I’d agree with this. I think mandatory pre-nups and mandatory paternity tests would solve a lot of issues honestly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/24 11:00 PM
12	What are some red flags you've personally experienced from the opposite sex? If a woman wants to be hit during sex, that's a no go for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/24 09:18 PM
32	Men desire primarily the top 20% of women, they are just more willing to settle. Men find most women attractive. Women find most men unattractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/24 08:49 PM
10	CMV: affluent bachelors who refuse to marry are selfish cowards What is the benefit being married gives men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/24 04:10 PM
7	Western women's dating options are shrinking. There’s also a lot of guys who are into BBWs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/24 01:41 AM
1	What percentage of men and what percentage of women do you think would be promiscuous if they are already in a happy relationship and they are “allowed” to be promiscuous by their partner? Women would have sex outside marriage way more than men if allowed, because it’s easier for a woman to get laid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/24 12:36 AM
1	Are women even really afraid of men? Statistics can unfortunately be used for discrimination. Most sexual assaults are committed by men. A disproportionate amount of crime is committed by black men. 1 statistic will be hailed as a reason to be afraid of men. The other one you will be called a racist if you reference it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/24 12:34 AM
-1	The future is female. Women are mostly exempt from conscription. That’s a pretty big deal since many countries have conscription, which is essentially slavery often ending in death.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/24 05:46 AM
3	Marriage is protection for women. Pre nups are protections for men Most women wont marry a man who insists on a pre-nup.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/24 02:16 AM
4	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? I don’t. I care about my life vs future generations. I never want to have kids, i never want to get married due to the risks, and im happy living my life single.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 12:28 AM
10	District Attorney's 19-Year-Old Daughter Learning Her Lesson the Hard Way What’s her name?	/r/PussyPassDenied	15/06/24 05:52 PM
9	Men's and women's experiences are not equally hard. Interesting article about a trans man's experience when they transitioned. They didn't realize how lonely men are: I'm a Trans Man. I Didn't Realize How Broken Men Are - Newsweek	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/24 03:39 PM
-1	How can you expect sympathy from men on abortion rights, when we never had the freedom to unilaterally opt out of parenthood after conception? But what if the female rapist wants to keep the baby? Shouldn’t the male rape victim have a say? At least not to have to pay child support?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/24 03:03 PM
-2	How can you expect sympathy from men on abortion rights, when we never had the freedom to unilaterally opt out of parenthood after conception? Some women poke hole in condoms to trap a man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/24 02:20 PM
-2	How can you expect sympathy from men on abortion rights, when we never had the freedom to unilaterally opt out of parenthood after conception? You do know a male rape victim can be forced to pay child support, right? Is that ok?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/24 02:20 PM
4	Men’s positive actions are individualized while their negative actions are collectivized and … Guns are the great equalizer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/24 08:46 PM
7	Online dating will not decline in popularity because women aren’t receptive to approaching or being approached Women are massively privileged on online dating. Oceans of men to choose from.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/24 02:20 AM
0	Long term relationships fail a cost/benefit analysis for men outside the top 20% 100% agree. If you’re an average man, marriage is a trap. You face a higher chance of your wife cheating on you with a higher value man, divorcing you, and taking half your stuff plus alimony and child support if you have kids. Zero reason to get married.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/24 11:21 PM
1	Why are so many dudes whipped? This is why im glad im voluntarily single. I aint getting henpecked.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/24 11:35 PM
8	Women get too much leeway in the court of public opinion. “Believe all women” has got to be the dumbest political slogan.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/24 09:19 PM
1	"Women are wonderful" mentality that bluepillers advocate for is actually disrespectful towards women because it removes their agency Duke Lacrosse case?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 05:18 AM
2	"Women are wonderful" mentality that bluepillers advocate for is actually disrespectful towards women because it removes their agency Believe all women is very toxic because some women lie, just like some men lie.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 02:34 AM
–	Women's spaces have a hard time trying view men as human. It is very clear women care less for men than men care about women. It is still seen as shocking for violence against women, no one gives a rat’s ass about violence against men, even though men are much more likely to be victims of violent crime.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/24 01:41 AM
25	Why is misogyny increasing on social media? Ive noticed Misandry is highly accepted and condoned. People see it as “punching up” even though men and women have equal rights in Western countries. And people say Misandry is just an annoyance to men, but it is in reality very harmful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/24 05:04 AM
15	CMV When a man doesn’t want a child but a woman still gives birth, a man should be cleared of the financial responsibility Shouldn't women consider it before having sex too?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 08:18 PM
1	In the manosphere men aren’t being held accountable for the violence they commit. She was a Misandrist, nice try to dodge.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/24 01:41 AM
5	In the manosphere men aren’t being held accountable for the violence they commit. Women DO NOT get harsher sentences. That is a blatant lie.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/24 01:21 AM
6	The Big Difference of Aging between Men vs Women is... Cougars are a thing and highly sought after. Is there a similar term for older men? I dont think there is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 03:54 AM
2	Is Misogyny Systemic? A male rape victim literally has to pay child support to the rapists’ child. How is that fair?!	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 12:07 AM
3	Is Misogyny Systemic? I find Misandry much more systemic. The Justice System (divorce, child custody, alimony, criminal justice) vastly favors women. Also, only men have to register for the draft to get basic citizen rights. The government also has special programs and more funding for women, and no specific programs for men. Institutionally, the US government favors women over men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 03:05 AM
-11	Alimony is a joke and so is marriage Women get a ton of stuff in divorce for pretty much not doing much. Divorce is the easiest way for a woman to get ahead in life. The US Justice System is very sexist against men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 02:59 AM
1	Is dating a "free market"? Women dating is doing dating on easy mode. Unless you’re a 10/10 attractive guy or super rich, you don’t get easy mode. All women pretty much have easy mode.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/24 12:19 AM
-1	The root of the gender war is birth control Here’s the thing: it’s legal for women to poke holes in condoms. A woman just has to catch a hot/rich guy, poke holes in his condoms or lie about birth control, and once she’s got his kid, she’s set for life! Child support to her, she gets to live a wealthy life on his dime. Men should be allowed to terminate paternal rights to not have to pay child support if women can have abortions. Equal rights!	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/24 12:25 AM
2	Is the default world view blue pill or purple pill? Blue Pill default. Feminism is super mainstream, women are valued more than men, and it’s socially accepted to denigrate men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 07:40 PM
–	Why do some women have an issue with men going overseas to find romance? Seems to be Western women jealous that foreign women get more high value men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/24 06:11 PM
-3	Is porn addiction a factor in how negatively women see the average man? Man, so many great guys in Warhammer have had it ruined by their partner/wife	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/24 11:44 PM
-1	Can men expect the bare minimum from women? Men are always held accountable for their actions, so in this case, must turn down advances if in a relationship (id agree, cheaters are shitty people). But if a woman cheats on a man, it’s automatically her partners fault, he must have done something wrong, she can’t be expected to control urges.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/24 10:24 PM
4	Do you think the current dating problems contribute largely to the mental health crisis seen in young adults? To an extent. Like I’m a guy who never wants to get married or have kids, and im happy with it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/24 04:28 AM
10	Do you think the current dating problems contribute largely to the mental health crisis seen in young adults? Probably. Though not just dating. Guys can be very lonely, combination of dating and a lot of guys have a tough time making friends. People who are very isolated can go kind of crazy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/24 04:27 AM
–	Every time a male celebrity's nudes are leaked - women and gay men spread it, laugh about it, discuss it, critique it, shame it etc. with zero blowback. Yup, Feminists complain all the time about the sexualization and objectification of women, yet are absolutely disgusting towards men and objectify them all the time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/24 10:11 PM
–	Being an attractive woman in the West is the highest level of privilege a person can ever have. God I hate simps. Are men really that stupid to think donating a bunch of money to an OnlyFans girl will get her to date them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/24 06:56 AM
–	Being an attractive woman in the West is the highest level of privilege a person can ever have. Women make BANK from OnlyFans, attractive women have life on easy mode.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/24 06:55 AM
–	Being an attractive woman in the West is the highest level of privilege a person can ever have. After being born rich, id agree, attractive women in the west have life on easy mode.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/24 06:55 AM
35	The idea that you should be sexually attracted only to certain traits otherwise there's something wrong with your brain is absurd Women who are attracted to men who treat them like shit do have mental problems.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 06:35 PM
8	Being girlfriend zoned is worse than being sex zoned I mean, youre talking about how men dont want to wife some women up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 11:35 PM
11	Being girlfriend zoned is worse than being sex zoned Marriage sucks for men, I completely understand why so many men don’t want to get married. A divorce could ruin his life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 08:57 PM
0	Men feel that women will not allow them to have preferences but where do they get this idea? Typically accused by Women and/or Feminists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/24 02:07 AM
2	Men feel that women will not allow them to have preferences but where do they get this idea? Men are accused of fat shaming and being fatphobic if they have a preference of not dating a heavy woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/24 02:07 AM
-1	Men feel that women will not allow them to have preferences but where do they get this idea? It's very true women are allowed to have preferences and men aren't. Not only that, but female preferences tend to be things men cannot change, while male preferences tend to be things women can change. Women can have preferences for tall men, men with large genitals, buff men, nice butt, and attractive face. If a man has a preference for a non-overweight woman or non-obese woman, he is fat shamed. The "body positivity" movement ONLY applies to fat women. If a man has a preference for a woman wi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/24 12:44 AM
–	I don’t understand men’s arguments for why it’s only okay for them to have high bodycounts. Women are not shamed for virginity, but shamed for high bodycount. Men are not shamed for high bodycount, but shamed for virginity. That is a double standard.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/24 08:40 PM
–	I don’t understand men’s arguments for why it’s only okay for them to have high bodycounts. Double standards suck. Women shamed for high bodycounts, men shamed for virginity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/24 08:14 PM
4	What does everyone believe with regard to "trauma" and male sexual assault? Men absolutely get trauma from being sexually assaulted. Look how messed up our system is that a male rape victim is forced to pay child support to his rapist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/24 05:02 AM
15	Why do women assume that all women are good? Let’s see: prosecuting people for smoking weed while she did it herself, lying constantly, creepy cackle at weird moments, appointed Czar of the border and its only getting worse, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/24 12:21 AM
0	The RP Theory that a Women can become so undesirable (for whatever reason) where she can‘t find a Man which commits to her is completely wrong. A lot depends on the womans age and physical nature. A cougar is hot for a young guy, dont have to worry about pregnancy and shes good for a fling. If she’s rich, you can have a sugar momma. But for men wanting a family, women 35+ are tough with fertility.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/24 12:20 AM
0	Is there a double standard when it comes to women and men being single? Does one have it worse than the other? Marriage is the easiest way for women to move up in society. Since women mostly only date/marry up, it pushes them into a higher social bracket.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/24 12:18 AM
36	Is there a double standard when it comes to women and men being single? Does one have it worse than the other? Men are judged way more harsh for being single. Im a 30 year man, own my own house, fairly financially successful, and relatives still ask me when im gonna get married. Fuck marriage, im not risking my financial stability for a woman who can cheat on me and get half my stuff and alimony.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/24 12:15 AM
-1	Do you that marriage is largely obsolete today now that social norms have been largely relaxed? It’s obsolete for men, massive financial risk for very little gain. For women, it’s the easiest way to move up in society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/24 01:31 AM
2	Are young adults infantilized? How does this affect dating? Young women are infantilized to their benefit. Young men are seen as fully mature men and treated like such by the law.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/23 11:37 PM
4	Older women are way easier to manipulate than younger girls Women are better at manipulating men than the opposite. Manipulation is something I would consider Toxic Femininity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/23 01:27 AM
2	Why don't alpha women date beta simps? Yeah you have to be pretty toxic getting rejected by a matchmaker lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/23 01:21 AM
5	Why don't alpha women date beta simps? She seems like a toxic person. Her personality seems awful. Not to mention she’s a very old looking 38, is she lying about her age?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/23 04:12 PM
2	Men Have Abandoned Women I literally see no reason for men to get married. So much of a risk for what, maybe slight tax benefits?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 07:34 PM
22	Do you think there are more men willing to be house husbands or more women will to have house husbands? 100% more men willing. This notion that no men want to be house husbands is a feminist lie. The issue is that 99% of women only date/marry up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 04:14 AM
3	Conservative men's views will be their own undoing... Politics is always a pendulum. Right now it’s swinging more right worldwide. But soon, it’ll swing back left.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 05:08 AM
6	diferences in communication in men and women Yup. Women want men to open up emotionally, but once the man does, be ready for her to have it weaponized and ready if anything goes wrong in the relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 05:29 AM
40	The double standard: man has alot of sexual partners = good. Woman has alot of sexual partners = bad. Is misunderstood. You are also forgetting the double standard that a female virgin is sought after, prized, and praised. A male virgin is seen as a loser and that there must be something wrong with him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 11:42 PM
–	Marriage is a trap. Marriage is such a huge risk for men with very little reward.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 04:33 AM
4	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth And women still go for assholes who treat them like shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 12:09 AM
6	How important is “virginity” to men? Most men prefer a female virgin. Virginity is prized for women, male virgins are shamed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/23 12:12 AM
2	Why aren’t we as harsh on promiscuous men as promiscuous women? Until you get a girl pregnant and she doesnt want an abortion. And before you say just use protection, women can easily trap a guy by poking holes in condoms or lying about birth control pills, some psycho women have done this. Welcome to 18 years of child support. Guys who dont sleep around dont have to worry about that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/10/23 08:04 PM
31	Why aren’t we as harsh on promiscuous men as promiscuous women? But women as a whole are harsh on male virgins.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/10/23 07:49 PM
18	Why aren’t we as harsh on promiscuous men as promiscuous women? Women do not get virgin shamed near to the extent men do. In most of the world, a woman virgin is highly sought after, and many men prefer women who are virgins. A woman who prefers a male virgin is extremely rare.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/10/23 07:47 PM
90	Why aren’t we as harsh on promiscuous men as promiscuous women? Women get slut shamed more, but men get virgin shamed more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/10/23 05:35 PM
–	Men also care about height Why is it weird if the woman is taller?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 06:06 PM
–	Men also care about height Disagree, I’d prefer a woman taller than me, but women care way more about height so it wont happen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 06:05 PM
2	Do women need men more than men need women because women spend more? I always balk at “unpaid labor”. Your husband pays for everything and has to work hard for you to have your lifestyle. Don’t like it? Don’t marry and instead be a girlboss.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/23 12:16 AM
4	Does any gender as a whole have less accountability than another? If so which and can you provide realistic examples? Women absolutely have less accountability. They are infantilized. Women get 63% less time for the same crime as a man. Women’s crimes are not taken as seriously as men’s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 02:49 AM
7	Are women financially better off not being with men? Depends on the woman and the man. A waitress who marries a stockbroker will be better off financially than a single waitress. But then a female CEO who marries a male burgerflipper will be worse off than a single female CEO. It all depends on what careers they have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/23 09:02 PM
-1	Why do men find it attractive when women have no body hair? Yes, body hair on women is gross.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/23 09:08 PM
2	How do you feel about society making men "obligated" to lead a relationship (asking a girl out, initiating the first kiss, proposing, etc)? Current society seems to really not want men to behave the “obligated” way. Asking a girl out? Unless she thinks you’re hot, you’re a creep. Initiating the first kiss? Make sure to ask for consent or you can be facing a sexual assault charge. Holding the door for women? You’re a chauvinistic pig. Proposing is the only one seemingly accepted, and only because marriage is more for benefit and want of the woman, not the man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/23 08:56 PM
1	Which of these women would be the most desired for relationships / dating ? B comes across as the best, seems the most attractive to me, and can I just say C is not overweight, she is morbidly obese.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/23 11:18 PM
12	Wouldn't it be so much safer for women if they started hitting on men? Basically any guy would love to get approached by women. It makes her intention very clear and doesn't leave room for misinterpreting signals or playing games. Tends to be women who play games like playing hard to get.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/23 06:02 PM
1	CMV: average people are attracted to other average people and above The average woman is definitely not attracted to the average man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/23 08:25 PM
1	Why do men not like women "settling" for them if they are doing the same thing? Settling means very likely your spouse will cheat.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/23 02:11 AM
3	Why Should Men Get Married? As someone who doesn't want to marry or have kids, I'd rather just be in a long term relationship. If it works, cool. If not, then should be a clean break with no legal issues.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/23 06:43 PM
7	why do women want marriage more than men? Because marriage overwhelming benefits women. They get their special wedding (pretty much always the bride who wants to spend a ton of not her own money). Women generally become better off financially as most women date up. And if it ends in a divorce, the wife most of the time gets 50% of his stuff, alimony, and child support payments if they have kids. Marriage has no benefits really to men except maybe taxes, and men risk an enormous amount on a marriage as if they get divorced, it can financ…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 09:07 PM
1	Is love and marriage on the decline? And are other subs effecting each other? Agreed. Im a 30s male and am voluntarily alone, never want to be married/have kids, and have even stopped dating. It aint worth the headache anymore, and it's nice that all my money goes to me, my free time is all to myself, and I still have a good group of friends to hang out with. Live is good being a single guy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/23 03:53 PM
1	There's nothing wrong with treating women like children, a lot of women like it when you take care of them in a loving manner The big thing is society treats women like children. They get 65% less harsh sentences than men for the same crime and are not held accountable for their actions. Men meanwhile get the book thrown at them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/23 11:48 PM
1	Why marriage is dead 2X is full of misandry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/23 11:59 PM