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Well if you don't like women no point in dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 09:58 AM
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Depends on what you mean by 'well'. Women kill less people on the roads
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 09:58 AM
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The thread about what women should know in bed is so funny. PPD men wanting women with low n counts who fuck like champs will never get old.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 09:54 AM
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How is that Virtue signalling? They're saying they need an emotional connection in order to also have physical attraction, not saying they're attracted to the connection itself. Virtue signalling as a phrase is so lazy. Its just something men scream here because they think it upsets women to read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 09:53 AM
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I see too many young men not holding themselves to account. If you want to respect yourself you need to hold yourself to the highest standards first. Otherwise you're just preaching narcissistic "if you can't handle me at my worst you can't handle me at my best" shite.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:59 PM
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The guards? Are you in prison?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 02:18 PM
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And put some effort into the production values, please. If you send out pictures of your genitals then you're now in the effeminate position so you better scrub up nicely and paint me a pretty picture darling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 02:17 PM
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Yeah I don't have any smoking guns, nor an inclination for outright lying. I've only been asked this question once and I found it so appalling and my boyfriend of the time immediately apologised. I think most women here are probably like that because it winds up both the feminists and the old fashioneds.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:09 PM
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If I'm perfectly honest, I am not very good at lying, but I think it's an interesting concept regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 11:56 AM
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Dude I think our opinions diverged so much that they just horsehoed into harmony.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 11:54 AM
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Dw nothing I say here has any impact on my irl behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 11:14 AM
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The money runs out eventually. These lads will be in for a nasty shock. I've seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 11:13 AM
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They did because of his recent behaviour, he wound up homeless and got temporarily housed by the council. I love him and have always tried to help him but his behaviour started to hurt other people. He's still doing nothing and I don't know what will end up happening to him but you can't make someone help themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:27 AM
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It's hard to say. I work in local government and some areas are very women or men dominated, but in the professional side of the council it's quite even. Hopefully women will learn to demand more from workplaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:25 AM
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Yup. But I don't see what the difference is, other than length of involvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:24 AM
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Men already lying to the heavens to get a shag, as men here have made clear a) they do and b) is fine. But yes, burn it all to the ground. Most women will be fine at the end because they're bi enough to date women irr they prefer soyboys, men will tear themselves apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:14 AM
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This sub has convinced me it's for the best for women to lie about their n count. I will be passing this information on as much as possible. The problem with the sexual economics approach to sexual politics is markets crash due to boom and bust. So if enough women start lying about n count we could surely crash the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:09 AM
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Until they get kicked out and move into an HMO at the age of 30. But what you're saying doesn't really speak to why there would be a gendered difference, there isn't a discount on houses for being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:06 AM
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Why
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:02 AM
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And men like those need to be rooted out. The last one that did that to me I just ruined his reputation around town. Lost him some good opportunities. If you want casual shagging do not be lying. Fucking disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:02 AM
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I thought you don't get cake or sex, why don't you pick something you could relate to?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:00 AM
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It's so weird how you write one of the least bitter things I've seen here and men smirk at the idea you're upset. And yet we are supposed to drop everything to emotionally support another man who goes REEEE at his lack of sex. You're right though, the base position of the manosphere regarding feminism justifies feminism. Really their movement has radicalised another generation of women, the younger women are even more radical. We didn't even need to do anything to recruit them, they just recruit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:59 AM
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Yup, lots of NEETs running around. My brother is one. Hopefully we will be allowed to have gender selection in the future, we really do not need equal numbers of men to be born.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:56 AM
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Yep, it's because they just resent women, they don't have a serious point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:55 AM
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I'm not American but I've never heard people using those terms irl. And as others have said that thinking started in redpill as I understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 10:09 AM
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I don't think you're taking into account the size of the pond. If Jack Graelish never left Solihull he'd be a good enough looking lad, maybe not the top level but do fine in his hometown.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 12:56 AM
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You can get really nice bed socks nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:36 PM
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Something in IT? I feel for you man, I've had all of those before and it's not a good position for you to be in. I hope you can work out some ways to develop your skillset so that you can both feel more assured of your capabilities and move into more interesting work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:19 PM
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What do you hate about your job?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:14 PM
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There's so many of them as well! I miss the munchie snark sub, that shit was my guilty pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:01 PM
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So hyped. Hoping to do a big girls trip, maybe take some wine in as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:41 PM
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If my face was breaking out like that and I had less than an hour before work I wouldn't be filming a tik tok.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:40 PM
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The only people who casuallly refer to groups of women as females are misogynistic nerds, so I'm all in favour of men using it because they're clearly signposting that they don't want to be seen sexually or romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:27 PM
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So women who sleep around are just proving they're not lesbians?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:23 PM
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Redpilled men can't be loyal to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:14 PM
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Then they talk about "accountability" for women but refuse to take accountability for themselves. Against women sleeping around, but will sleep with women anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:10 PM
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Doesn't matter, same sentencing guidelines I.e. dtmf
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 10:59 AM
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I don't mind female when it's used as an adjective or adverb. I don't respect it as a stylistic choice when used as a noun. I feel the same about male.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 10:58 AM
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You're right. Most men don't act like this. Half of them are virgins not out of choice who want women who are virgins by choice otherwise they're emasculated. The other half are men who identify as a man probably harder than is healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 10:56 AM
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Universal healthcare is amazing but it must be run by socialists and others who wish to push back capitalism from areas of public life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:51 PM
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Just send him to yoga or sports or swimming or whatever. Children learn best through play. If you want him to be a Chad he needs decent social skills, not to be a minmax shadow Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:36 PM
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Wow, sounds like a huge year. Enjoy your time away and I hope you feel recharged soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:30 PM
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I always pick women characters, since my Ling Xiaoyu main days.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 12:00 AM
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You guys really can't decide if we live in a patriarchy (good for threatening women) or matriarchy (to win gold at the oppression olympics).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 10:12 PM
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Just raised my age range on bumble up to 40, let's see if there are hot guys that age about or not. (This is in reference to that post yesterday about Chris Pratt).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:06 PM
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Yes, if you're a man who wants to have straight division of assets and custody for men then your best bet is to support women's education and career access, maternity leave, shared parental leave and abortion access.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:33 PM
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He said he was 50!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:27 PM
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The other day a mod fixed it but they haven't been doing it since AFAIK.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:06 PM
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Q4A Do you have any professions you'd prefer to not date? I'm wary of chefs. I've known loads who were mega hot, charming, sweet and creative, but 1) those fucking hours 2) way too much coke and boozing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:04 PM
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I don't think her dreaming about you is a sign of interest, but her telling you could be. Do you think there's a vibe between you? Do you fancy her? Do you think you're both looking for compatible things? If all of these are yes then go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:41 PM
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You get good at sex by having a long term partnered with whom you can have frank conversation about sex with. Men who fuck around but haven't had much LTR have a very obvious, and imo poor, sexual style.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:37 PM
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Wow you have managed to create hypothetical women simply so they can do something that outrages you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:31 PM
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You're living the dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:29 PM
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I mean they're redpilled guys who picked women who would play to the gallery. But why are they pathetic and miserable? Is it pathetic and miserable when men decide to GTOW?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:28 PM
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I don't think it'll be a quick demise but I don't see it building any value.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:44 PM
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Wave? Why the hell would you wave. This is almost good advice, albeit one of the oldest tricks in the book.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:02 PM
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If women collectively stopped working outside the home at the same time that would not raise male wages because there would a devastating economic crash. If you want a traditional housewife then you need to be a traditional provider. Most men don't want that responsibility so they don't get to have a traditional housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:42 PM
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Most men don't make enough money to have a housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:36 PM
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I see. Ideally we would get on well then hypothetically. I've had partners whose mum's I didn't get on with. Some people get on like a house on fire with their in laws and that seems lovely.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:25 PM
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Yes I'm family oriented, although I don't live near any of them, and my ideal partner would either be the same or be supportive of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:36 AM
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I'd love to see it at the market I go to! People are known for their salt of the earth laconic wit around here. It would be funny af to see an old timer in a flat cap hearing some of this stuff for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:25 AM
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I saw an ugly woman on tinder with some TRP flavoured bio and I did cringe a little at how excessively pick me it was. Surely there must be a point where that strategy has diminishing returns. No idea if she was actually bisexual or just ticked the wrong box.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:20 AM
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Woah what even is the point of this, is it so he can know women may have read his opinion, or is he hoping to find a woman with enough internalised misogyny that she goes for this? I've seen bios which are basically just "you'd better consider x,y, and z and whether you bring enough to the table etc" in a very weird and rude tone. Your bio is the time to say what you bring to the table, and negative attitudes are a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:08 AM
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You're trying to prey on what you think is a sore spot for women because making strangers upset makes you happier. You're an emotional sadist and nothing you say matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:56 PM
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I notice a lot of men here say there's nothing wrong with men lying to gain sexual access. Do those same men think there's something wrong with women lying about n count to gain relationship access?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:07 PM
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Yes definitely still had feelings, just was clear the relationship was over. By period of time I'm talking like a couple of weeks where I needed to gather thoughts and come to a decision. My exes face crumpled so hard when I broke up with him, and I still feel like crying when I remember. He's happy now but I've never seen anyone look like that at me before and tbh I don't ever want to again. The image would sometimes pop into my head and I'd feel short of breath. Depute all this we are good fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:36 AM
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Everyday I chat to some of my friends on WhatsApp or something. Social activities maybe about four times a week. Sometimes less sometimes more. My friends are all super extroverted. I live on my own which helps because I can decompress quicker in between. Are you talking about irl friends? You seem to have a lot of energy for this place? I don't think there's a right or wrong answer as long as you are happy with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:32 AM
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You think it's disgust but think of it from their perspective. They see a cute boy, go up and talk and he's rude, disinterested or just doesn't flirt back. You feel embarrassed and walk off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:30 AM
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Woman gets cheated on by p Diddy and that means something sociological?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:25 PM
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Good. I don't know why redpilled men think that women losing access to them is a loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:35 PM
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They assume its the same 20% as well. Whereas I think the proportion of men who are someone's type is higher than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 11:39 AM
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This sounds like a good future. Hopefully women become so unappealing to red pilled men that they give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 11:38 AM
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You're assuming a single woman will be unhappy, or as unhappy as a single man. Realistically having an overly masculine partner has gone out of fashion amongst women. You just want women to have to settle with the threat of unhappiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 11:37 AM
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Yes, certain men do like to flatter themselves with this idea that they are closer to the heavens than women are. But I don't even agree with your interpretation of what a hobbit hole is. *In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a hobbit-hole, and that means comfort. It had a perfectly round door like a porthole, painted green, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:35 PM
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I'm English. I hate big houses. Most women here prefer smaller houses because they're cosier, less cleaning, easier to heat etc. I've had very tiny galley kitchens and I'd prefer to not buy a house like that because I enjoy cooking and they're a bit of a pain mind. Probably fine if you're not into cooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:16 PM
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Wow you must be amazingly good looking then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:13 PM
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Aren't all the women in barad dur gonna be bearded though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:13 PM
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Aren't you married though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:49 PM
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This is the actual worst take I've seen on here. Cosy hobbit hole vibe is so popular amongst women. Smallholding and allotmenteering are very popular amongst women. Women tend to prefer that kind of aesthetic to me ime.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:47 PM
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twitter There's your problem already tbh. I've never heard of fat women trying to ban preferences, only request people be a little less cuntish in how they talk about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:53 AM
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addicted to the drama That would be a hard no from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:51 AM
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Surely this experience would contradict TRP. But either way, you need to work out a way to stop ruminating about this, for your own mental health. If you need ideas on how to I'd be happy to brainstorm with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:49 AM
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I agree. And I think this is something that guys on here often don't quite understand. It's not about a partners income, its about their financial stability. I don't want a partner whose financial chaos would make me more vulnerable. I simply refuse to be dragged back into poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:42 AM
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Good. I'd rather every thin woman became a fat dyke if it meant there was no women left for red pilled men. Considering the chronic lack of investment in public health in many Western countries this will only continue to grow. Very exciting tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:25 AM
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That last sentence is so sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:23 AM
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If people have the right to judge promiscuity then I don't know why this would be wrong to have as a preference. If men's preferences are valid then I don't know why women's wouldn't be. I mean to me it comes across as a bunch of atheists that still have Christian values, but that's up to you really.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:18 AM
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Nah, men are obviously judging women on dates too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:16 AM
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Which survey is this statistic from?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:16 AM
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No. Women vary just as much as men do. If you only know "instathots" as a man that's because you're of the same social strata.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:16 AM
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'Social media analysis' feels like a rather self indulgent way of describing judging women's online presence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:15 AM
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I'd always rather take the bad situation that was the shortest, or that I was able to recognise and leave quickest. Time is the most precious resource, and whilst it's good to be forgiving you have to know when it's time to be gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 10:50 PM
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I'm English, and I think it's partly the alcohol to be honest. Other things too but there can definitely be a strange atmosphere when they're playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 10:44 PM
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When I worked nights I got mad into gardening, had an allotment from the council, did some volunteering and stuff, so good for getting out and connecting with people and nature. Definitely something to consider! It's a slog, hope you're able to get your weekends back eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 01:44 AM
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Woah I've never heard of someone doing late night laptop based work, that must be an awkward schedule to be honest. I used to work nights so I do get it. What do you get up to during the day?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 01:38 AM
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Gosh it must be a little discomforting for you that a "fatty" such as myself has lots of random people telling her she's pretty regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 12:27 AM
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As a feminist my main area of concern here are the dancer's workers rights. I don't have a moral judgement on the activity itself, although I do think they should be extremely discreet. There's been issues with flyer littering with some strip clubs, but that could be any business. I can't speak as to whether or not it could help a young man with his confidence with women, so I'm glad it's helped you. I guess the only thing I'd say is be careful of your money. Seems like an easy way to drain your…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 12:15 AM
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I think this completely depends on which religion/mythos you're referring to. In Greek mythology for example, those that had offended the gods had punishments that were designed to be so insanely unpleasant. I can't imagine anyone enjoying an unquenchable thirst. Masochists don't tend to enjoy any kind of pain or suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:55 PM
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Does this mean every man here is sad and bitter when they say anything that isn't honeyed about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:47 PM
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Which symbolism?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:46 PM
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There's definitely plenty on the far right side of the manosphere who would want this. Whether or not those proponents are ever able to form administrations and enact those policies is another, but there is certainly a space in between where those views could become more commonplace and increase sexual violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 09:49 PM
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TRP orthodoxy on this seems to be whichever will win the debate that day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 09:43 PM
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What would you give yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 09:40 PM
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I'm sorry I made you feel like that :( I will have to console myself with all that sweet above average D.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 09:37 PM
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Unless you're a woman making those choices, then it's an issue it would seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:30 AM
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The ideal is to have shared parental leave. Not just maternal, although obviously if you've given birth there is the recovery time for that as well to consider. But overall, societies can afford it. We need people to keep having babies. Otherwise a lot of women would be forced out of working and the economy would actually decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:27 AM
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I used to come here under a different account and I left eventually, there wasn't many women here then and the sub was full of Intel content. Feels a bit more of a balanced crowd with more interesting debate. Will probably move on again eventually as I nuke accounts every now and then.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 05:05 PM
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No one should be drafted. Fuck war and all that. There is an extremely long history of feminist women campaigning to remove the draft from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:11 AM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 11:57 PM
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As if men don't, and don't call women having vaginas whilst not being underage "roast beef". Stop acting like some people being cunts means anything you do is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 10:25 PM
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Presumably not the same woman so I'm not sure why that's blown your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 10:20 PM
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I know they're known for being fuckfests, but they are going to be on their own, its Qatar not Brazil, and they don't have any experience now so they are still working out how to flirt and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 08:22 PM
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The world Cup in Qatar on your own doesn't seem like the most natural place to go to meet women. If you come back kissless it's because your plan is bad, not because you're destined to not have sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 08:16 PM
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Are you responsible for every man? No? Then I am not responsible for every woman. If you believe an action is wrong you don't do it because someone else is. If you're admitting you do something that you also accuse someone else of doing, then I don't know why you think you're superior. It's like you're able to admit you did something wrong without being able to take any personal responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:57 PM
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It's a shame that the first time i have seen a man acknowledge women's mental health problems here it's to weaponise them to talk about men getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:46 PM
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Yeah really don't think Emma Watson is a good actor. Daniel Radcliffe has definitely done some good work and who will continue to build his niche. I just think it'll always be a super big presence in his reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:42 PM
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There's definitely people who don't think they're a good person. I spent a lot of time thinking that. So feeling that I'm at least an OK person feels more like healing than unearnt conceit. I think it's a pretty normal baseline of human psychology to think that though because you know the nuance of your own behaviour better than someone else who will reduce you to stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 06:57 PM
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Low hanging fruit but Daniel Radcliffe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 06:55 PM
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Blackpiller falls in love with a VR porn star feels like a 3 star Sci fi film waiting to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 06:54 PM
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Point A implied that dark triads were part of it, and that they could get relationships no matter what shit they did. Whilst it's true there's men who are literally in prison for all kinds of disgusting shit who have partners, it's not a given at all. People's abilities to access sex and have relationships will wax and wane in their lifetime due to all sorts of internal and external factors and priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 06:34 PM
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I'm single but my job involves a lot of setting something off to work for a few minutes, and I get the bus a lot, so it's not impacting my social time at all. Definitely would spend less time here and there if I was in a relationship though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 06:25 PM
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Yeah I don't really understand it. It's the same as men. I wasn't ready for a LTR in my early twenties. Had a LTR in my mid to late twenties which unfortunately didn't work out. But men on here act as though that's somehow an anti male hate crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 05:58 PM
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Yeah I completely agree to be honest. In England it's still technically illegal to eat a mince pie on Christmas day (note may be apocryphal) which sounds silly and twee but that dates back to the English civil war which certainly had a lot of actual bloodshed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 05:55 PM
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Best I can think of is the distinction between civil and criminal law but yeah its pretty on the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 05:48 PM
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Honestly the men on here are so misandrist. Most men are just normal fellas who've had a couple girlfriends and a couple flings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 04:57 PM
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That's weak evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 11:48 PM
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Are you saying that there are so many women who believe they are in a relationship with an alpha male type, but the alpha is actually dating many women, that this is having a statistical impact? So women are all just secretly in harems?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 11:45 PM
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That line of reasoning only makes sense if you think women don't enjoy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 10:37 PM
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Women demand more emotionally but they give more emotionally too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 10:35 PM
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People don't date like that at all in England. I went for Thai food once on a first date which was nice, but generally drinks is the best type of first date. More involved activities such as a sit down formal meal feel better for later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 10:10 PM
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Who are these women dating then?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 10:06 PM
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I honestly see it the opposite more. Couples where both work, no kids but the woman does a greater share of the domestic labour. Modern men getting the perks of two different time periods.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:39 PM
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Think this is what I'll do!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 11:39 PM
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People who go to the gym before work, what do you eat for breakfast beforehand? I don't think I could do it on an empty stomach, but I also don't wanna eat something that's going to take ages to digest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 03:55 PM
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Legal definitions of rape arise from the church and it's influence on definition, it entirely predates any feminist definitions. You're entirely misinformed on feminist thinking in this area regardless, feminists have been saying for years that definitions of rape need to be widened and less gendered. You're making assumptions about what feminists say and yet clearly don't actually read anything feminist thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 03:23 PM
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Most of that is patriarchy. You clearly do not understand what patriarchy means. A patriarchy is a society which emulates, protects and is designed around male priorities. Clearly, a woman will be disadvantaged by that. In a million small ways, as well as larger ways. But men asloe experience harm from this. This is why intersectionality is critical for examining patriarchy. That isn't a fringe view either, that is the most dominant form of feminism now. Your examples dart all over the world. Fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:48 PM
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Everyone plays games these days. It's only a problem if you don't don't anything else going on. Look, you seem desperate to have your right to be a cunt respected, but you really seem to walk three steps to travel one. Just play your games, work your job, go to gym, have another hobby too ngl and just be nice and pleasant and assertive. Idk why you need to go through some kind of dark triad illuminati crap. You're overthinking the most natural of interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:32 PM
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They love to deny rape by saying a woman lied about cheating. Seems like a very specific set of circumstances that would lead to that. Idk, people of all genders lie about rape. But men's rights loves to take talking about it too far, to deny rape in general. There's two main motivations I can see for this; • they are rapists • it annoys them that the statistics show men are much more likely to rape women than vice versa, so they want to try and act like it doesn't happen
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:28 PM
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Patriarchy doesn't mean a man can never have something shit happen to them. No one said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:24 PM
1

Why come here then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:26 PM
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He's a very handsome man but it doesn't inspire anything for me. So I'd say a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:26 PM
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This doesn't show much connection with how women's sexualities actually operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:23 PM
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Resorting to personal attacks does nothing to defend OP. Get help.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:36 PM
2

That was a slight typo, I meant greater, but specifically in this situation I would like to see people not having to turn to survival sex work, where they need to use sex work to pay for their basic living costs due to a lack of alternative options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:33 PM
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That's useful to know. I've never used virgin as an insult, but I've definitely used incel as a pejorative in thee abstract, more to do with the misogyny associated with it but I'll be mindful about what language might be better used for that in the future thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 10:24 PM
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I'm all for decriminalising sex work. But i would also like to see great economic justice for all, which may mean there wouldn't be the sexual labour available for that to work. I'm definitely sympathetic to the plight of men who aren't having sex. I just don't know what practically could be done. I've asked this question a couple of times here and you're the first person whose answered in good faith and I do appreciate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 10:17 PM
1

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 10:14 PM
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Do you believe society should be addressing the sexlessness or the stigma? And what methods do you think would be worth trying?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 10:03 PM
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It's her private medical information, and if she uncomfortable telling someone she had an abortion why would she feel comfortable telling them she's had a miscarriage. I get a miscarriage may be less "loaded" but its just as visceral, and people judge women who miscarry a lot.. I don't think lying is the only option she had, nor the one I would have advocated, but I don't think it's an unreasonable suggestion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 06:26 PM
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I don't meet guys shorter than me often, but in principal yes. Feel like people are so weird about short women online in a rude way though tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 06:24 PM
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I don't really see the issue. First trimester pregnancies are especially private.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 06:14 PM
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Well now you've just thrown in that this hypothetical young man is an addict, which is just an entirely different conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:52 PM
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Maybe in the 19th century.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:17 PM
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I agree, if I found out a guy had dated a young woman that breached The Rule I'd be really put off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:50 PM
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That wouldn't suggest that they would be more influenced by another age groups influence. If anything, as that commenter said, the general thought amongst young women is that dating older men is gross, so surely by your logic it would be harder for a young woman to step out of that group think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:49 PM
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It's not wrong but it ain't right. Saying anyone who disagrees with you must be an "old bitter woman" doesn't imply you feel that your argument speaks for itself. You must denigrate your imagined debating opponent. Also a lot of the women who criticise these relationships feel that way because they had one themselves when they were younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:50 AM
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I thought laying pipe meant having a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 10:09 PM
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Which statistic? A man made a sweeping generalisation, that is not a statistic. A woman shared her lived experience of how that generalisation doesn't apply. Your response is to deny how reliable that is, despite not contesting the invalidity of the original statement at all. That logic just doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 10:07 PM
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I could be that lady, good to hear people think nice things about it if they're going to think about it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 09:40 PM
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Too many men don't even know of the work they choose to ignore. That's why so many of them end up in a neckbeard nest. And if you do end up marrying one there's a high probability he'll expect to be shown 'gratitude' for doing his share of the domestic labour, whilst not doing the same back. Just take, take, take.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 09:08 PM
1

How is that different to TRP? Except add all the stuff about men having "relationship value"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 08:58 PM
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You do the things you need to do, nothing feminine or masculine about doing practical things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 08:56 PM
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Anarchism and communism aren't differentiated by how left they, its about how authoritarian they are. That is a bisecting axis. Yes, I agree that there are a range of left wing views. They all centre around a relationship to ownership of means of production, with different models. I think we do not live in the same country as none of what you said about conservatism not being right wing doesn't make sense here. So I'll just have to trust that how you used Liberal and Conservative makes sense whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 08:52 PM
2

I can think of a few examples where that's not the case. Kristen Dunst?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 07:39 PM
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Except OP has said "I'm a leftist exceot for these very crucial areas of leftist thought". That's not eliminating someone from a group in order to not bring dishonour to a group, that's saying those ideas you've denounced are crucial pillars of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 07:31 PM
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Yeah I should clarify, I'm from the UK and that's where I was educated. You're absolutely right, liberalism in the US has a slightly different connotation I believe. In the UK it definitely means centrist, NOT left.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 07:29 PM
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A leftist would be seeking seize the means of production. The idea being that it is the workers who create value, and by owning the means of production the excess value that is created can be returned to society. A Liberal would be seeking to create fair outcomes within the established system. And a tankie is what we call leftists who have a hard on for leftwing authoritarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 06:43 PM
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No, psychologists chose to use it for interpersonal relationships as well. There was no "co opting". And if you think that puts cult victims at risk could you be more specific? What material difference does that make to the lives of cult victims? FYI men are also victims of abusive relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 06:10 PM
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Men love sniffing their own fucking farts about accountability, when men's rights is just about how to shirk their responsibilities. It's men who are the gender that can't handle accountability. A woman gets angry and she blames the situation on herself. A man gets angry and people get hurt. Not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:54 PM
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Most women don't care enough about redpill to even criticise it. I don't think anything you're doing is wrong, nor suggesting fear. I do think TRP uses the language of fear quite consistently, but I think you find that language emasculating. If you want to marry a thin white 22 year old woman whose has 1 sexual partner, parents are married and she's happy to get a pre-nuptial then go for it. I feel like so many on this sub though think women having preferences is delusional, whereas men having p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:50 PM
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Of course it makes people uncomfortable to discuss this. I'm not saying all Men are terrible. I never said that. It hitting a nerve for you says a lot more about you then me. Men are more violent. Men need to hold each other to account on this. Currently, that isn't happening. They need to stop killing each other, and they need to stop killing women. That isn't some sort of statistical anomaly, and saying my point is akin to climate change denial is just fucking unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:44 PM
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I can't NOT take into kids and marriage. I am certainly wishing to make a long term connection with someone, but it's the first two that makes me actually put effort into it, rather than leaving to the universe. But definitely monogamy. I don't want to be someone else's second, third or fourth girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:29 PM
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A tankie wanting a tradwife is hardly the surprising point i think you think it is. You also seem to conflate leftist and Liberal several times.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:26 PM
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Love bombing is a specific tactic people of all genders use as part of abusing someone. It shouldn't be used to mean "coming on strong". But I disagree with you that men never come on too strong and they're just "setting a standard", some men come on way too strong. That's just the "men are perfect" fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 04:48 PM
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Then you're just missing gay sex subconsciously maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 04:42 PM
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Are you bisexual or not? Kind of makes a difference imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 04:15 PM
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Lmao I appreciate your humour, good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 04:14 PM
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Wow, sounds amazing, have a good trip!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 04:13 PM
1

As opposed to whom, a nerdy man who pretends to be a Chad on reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 04:13 PM
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It's been around a lot longer than 10 years. The process you describe is just the normal process of words entering language. It's not anything worth getting upset about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 04:10 PM
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Yeah I noticed that, thought this sub was supposed to avoid weird race stuff like that. Saying that his archetypes seem to silo with popular porn categories, so I guess he had to base it on the women he knows about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 04:04 PM
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That's not where the phrase originated. It's a mainstream phrase that you would see in newspapers, research, forums and government papers. The patriarchy certainly originates from an ideological space. I think it's now adopted by mainstream society. But denying social skills originated in that space just seems like TRP space is the majority of where you read from.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 04:00 PM
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Yes, it does. Women are murdered for being women. I don't know why you're denying that, I'd have thought you relish the idea of women dying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 03:57 PM
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I agree, women ask men to not murder them and and retort is 'yeah well we murder each other even more'. But you're not allowed to have that conversation. For some reason reddit cant discuss male violence, without it resorting to the ways in which men are victims. I'm happy to factor that in but it feels like an inability to hold themselves to account.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 03:55 PM
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I don't know what that means. I'm just saying that the phrase you identified as being a 'gamer' phrase is just normal language.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 03:52 PM
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Yes because those men who are murdered are being murdered for non interpersonal reasons. I've had male family members murdered. I remember them, I am involved in causes that relate to why they died. I am also invested in ending femicide. They are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 03:51 PM
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Chana masala, bhuna or anything paneer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 03:48 PM
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Social skills is a mainstream phrase, it's in curricula.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 03:47 PM
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I'm English. It's pretty common. Maybe not phrased in such clinical terms, but certainly openly a pisshead.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 02:06 PM
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I'd take that over men listing their alcohol dependency as their defining characteristic. Might not be universal that one though. Think a lot of women's hobbys are seen as boring and they don't like to talk about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 01:53 PM
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I think being with a man would make you more vulnerable to other men surely? The sort of violence another could harm you from anyway. Istg I know so many men who are scared of spiders, I didn't realise is thought of as gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 01:51 PM
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Aye, you're right it would be those things, not my intention, simple curiosity. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 01:19 PM
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Protection? From what?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 01:14 PM
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Maybe that's why she thought he was an idiot, he said there's no pictures but there are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 01:13 PM
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OK, so examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 01:12 PM
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I do make the first move, I just think men telling women to do so is to help men, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 01:11 PM
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For sure. Different goals, or they say they "don't know" when asked what they're looking for etc. It's not that I look down on them, it's just we have nothing to offer one another so what's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 01:10 PM
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OK this was good advice and he seems still keen, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 12:31 PM
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Agreed. A lot of the guys on here act as though they are working out intensely but have mediocre faces, yet struggle to get even chubby women's attention. Whilst I'm sure that's true for an amount of men, probably higher proportions on this sub, you do have to question whether they're not over rating their own looks compared to women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 12:13 PM
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a person that likes you for who you are is not a red flag. That wasn't what happened. But good wholesome shitposting for the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 12:09 PM
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Maybe. I didn't reply for a day as I was poorly, which he knew. Maybe he is just also busy, Idk. I hope he didn't think I was stringing him along though as I genuinely did think he seemed v dateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 12:07 PM
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I'm one of those high maintenance ladies who refuse to date piss collectors.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 11:49 AM
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Damn this is so true. I think he's kind of boy next door in a millennial kind of way? Not my cup of tea tbh but I don't quite get the hand wringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 11:43 AM
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The date was nice but I found out after that he'd dated a friend of a friend and found out he has a fetish for my race, drinks his cum out the condom after sex and keeps bottles of piss under the bed. I just couldn't take the risk seeing him again, even if it wasn't all true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 11:35 AM
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Ngl this would work on me, except the being on the phone bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 11:30 AM
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These places constantly have content about how men have all the suffering and women have none, so it seems liker you're quoting a counterbalance to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 11:17 AM
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Been chatting with this guy I'm really into, he was coming on strong and I didn't match his energy, now he's gone AWOL 😭 I am so fucking bad with social skills and responding to people frequently enough. And if you're a woman it goes double, you're expected to have fantastic social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 11:07 AM
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I think this sub leans heavily towards men and that they can be very harsh towards women having preferences. For some reason women preferring taller men who have good social skills is seen as unseemly here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 11:03 AM
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Why do you feel the need to lead to a specific answer by saying "old crinkly women". If you felt your point was valid you wouldn't use loaded language like that. Everyone is allowed their preferences. It doesn't mean those preferences won't be criticised if you choose to advertise them. You know how fat women who like tall and fit guys are mocked here? I guess that's how women feel when a 35 year old gamer says they prefer younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 10:50 AM
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I don't understand why people are calling you gay for not getting any, every gay guy I know is having a lot of sex tbh. If you don't want a girlfriend, that's OK. Sounds like you need better people in your life though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 10:48 AM
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Would you say it's the same as men who lie to get sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 08:59 AM
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I get that. But it seems like something you could say under the 1000 posts by men here explaining why women are evolutionarily designed to be bitches who won't nosh them ,summat summat Chad sapien.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 08:59 AM
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It's a pretty short post that's within the subs terms of reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 08:55 AM
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Yeah, I just think the women doing all that are a minority. There's more to the world than reddit nerd men and only fan gamer girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:48 PM
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Do they? I've never seen a woman give herself a rating and include a picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:47 PM
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My parents taught me but I think if you want to learn the fundamentals watch 'Salt, Fat, Acid ' on Netflix which is good for the fundamental principles of cooking. Then start learning some basic meals that you can customise with what ingredients you have and preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:46 PM
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I've honestly never heard my friends say any number they'd prefer for men to have had, other than not wanting to date a virgin past a certain age. It's not a talking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:44 PM
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Because advice men online give about dating is usually intended to help a hypothetical man out, it's not designed to help the woman asking for the advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:42 PM
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Just shows "league" is woolly as fuck because people are using it for wildly different things. If you're just gonna say "women can't objectively determine x" then you just sound very tribal and not like you're thinking for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:40 PM
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I disagree with this. I think women are more "threshold" then this is saying, because once you take into account anything else that may be positive e.g. funny, knows lots about history, nice manners. That's why when women are showing each other pictures of men they'll say "oh OK he's kinda cute!" which means, possibly attractive depending on irl vibe check and personality stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:37 PM
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Are most women fishing for simps online though?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:33 PM
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Er honestly I've had all sorts, but I tend to vibe with nerdy musician types the most frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:30 PM
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Seems like a lot of the men here think women are worthless but still want them in some capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 07:58 PM
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It's not that short men are unattractive, it's just tall men have something going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 07:49 PM
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I don't want a relationship where either of us "needs" the one more than the other does. That would be a pyrrhic victory.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 07:47 PM
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Isn't that 1/20? Easy to know a couple hundred people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 07:31 PM
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There's no guarantee. It can be invitation to start flirting and see if the two of you build the momentum to go further. But you don't need to just walk up to her and plant one on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 05:55 PM
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This only makes sense if the average man looks better than the average woman, but that's really not the case. We constantly see men in relationships with women who are more conventionally attractive. As theh say here, women tend to choose partners due to a number of factors, whereas men are more likely to only be interested in looks. This sub loves to act as though fat women can't possibly be considered attractive, and yet also get dates. Well which is it? Unless you're saying their partners don…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 05:52 PM
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Fait enough, I'm not in that demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:56 PM
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I don't really know why you think you can extrapolate a universal truth to all women because one women asked what your intentions were. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with not looking for something serious, but I also don't think that a woman who is means she's only looking for a role to be filled, and not looking to get to know someone on a deeper level. Neither of you is wrong or right, although personally once its clear there's a mismatch I'm (politely) out of there. No need …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:42 PM
3

A lot of people prefer strong and unusual features.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 01:01 PM
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Well if I had a week off work I'd probably have things I wanted to do. And I'd want to have longer more sensual sessions then just twice daily sperm deposits. I suppose around four times, maybe more, maybe less. People talk about initiating a lot on reddit, I feel like a lot of the time sex is jointly initiated. That's my usual expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 01:00 PM
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Not seen anything like that here. You've made up what women say then got cross about it. Sex is nice. Its also politicised here in a way that means women aren't going to want to talk about it here much unless they're actually desperate for attention or particularly into debating. The way men here talk about sex is so transactional though. What happens in the normal world: women meets man, they flirt, they go for a casual drink and either shag, hate it or go out again, then they start regularly s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:56 PM
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I wouldn't date anyone with children. Fuck that. Don't care about the gender of it. Not raising someone else's kid and having my lifestyle changed like that. Too many men have pictures of their own kids on tinder. Put your kids first and don't put their pictures online. As you say though it happens more to men because there are more single mothers. So this goes double for any parent whose got such little contact with their kids that the other parent is considered a single parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:51 PM
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I mean, and vice versa?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:47 PM
1

True, I just want to mean more to someone then that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:27 PM
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I'm probably the opposite. I had a difficult childhood and grafted my way out of that situation, I don't see myself settling down with someone who doesn't have a lot of resilience and graft in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:20 AM
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I'm not saying they're correlated, I'm asking about how each is weighted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:18 PM
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Q4M If you care about n count, how do you balance looks of a woman with amount of sexual partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:53 PM
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For sure. Doesn't even register if someone shoots their shot but not feeling it. But this sort of behaviour is just silly. Trying to get the jealousy of someone who doesn't care is what men would call attention seeking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:48 PM
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Do you think you're honest about your intentions?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:34 PM
1

You know when women say that they can't get a man because they're all intimidated by her being TOO successful? That's sort of how Americans come across when they say this online.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:32 PM
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I'm saying you're only accounting for gender but there are more important variables.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:29 PM
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"Women, you're ugly but have a nice life so stfu". Yeah no wonder women are disillusioned with this kind of crap. Even if you think it's rude you just wouldn't be saying this kind of shit about men. You'd be concerned for their mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:28 PM
2

Damn you really had the retort up your pocket.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:26 PM
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Blue pill isn't a thing that's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:23 PM
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Really? Why? I don't say this lightly but I would screenshot and post this in the girls chat to laugh at this. Unless you live in one of the mega cities you'll end up putting off girls you don't even know yet. It's honestly quite tragic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:23 PM
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There's a lot of absolutes on this sub along gendered lines when there are so many variables that may make someone prioritise sex, relationship, both or neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:19 PM
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You need to get offline. Men who sext on reddit are going to be very different to the ones you may meet through mutual friends, social clubs and university. Even if it was the same exact guy the way he acts will be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:17 PM
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E. I don't have the time, I don't fancy putting my minge on the Internet and the kind of guy who makes amateur pornography isn't for me. I would find it a bit sleazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:15 PM
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I mean the difference between a person you like as a person, as opposed to a bedwarmer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:01 PM
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It's not caused me any problems like that tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:35 PM
1

I think most people want to feel loved in their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 08:24 PM
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No I think it's the opposite. You make the moves on a guy and you don't know it he's actually into you or just sees you as a simple route to sex and companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 07:15 PM
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It's like bloody power rangers or summat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 07:07 PM
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What's wrong with that? A couple should decide how how want to arrange that stuff, and decide this stuff early on. Some couples want traditional gender roles. Some do not. You don't have to date the people that don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 07:04 PM
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Because either; • they know what needs to be done, but need to feel validation from someone they trust that they're correct • they are feeling overwhelmed and sharing can help them reveal their logical thoughts to themselves • because girls grow sharing their feelings with one another more and so this feels important and natural to women • because they've had to mask their real feelings all day and need to feel seen for how they actually are All just guess work mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 06:43 PM
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I honestly like all of them a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 06:37 PM
1

I've dipped in before. Early 30s and yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 06:03 PM
1

Had to miss work from being sick today, felt fucking guilty, but just been playing lego harry potter and scrolling reddit, what about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 05:30 PM
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I like the sensory aspect ngl 😶
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 05:30 PM
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'Agreeableness' 'direct communication' not sure how simple it is to balance these things, at least in a way that is actually natural. I think reasonableness is a better metric really because it would blend the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 05:29 PM
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Exactly. I'll speak in archetypes for a moment as it's more convenient to communicate. If you are a person who likes to spend all their time playing video games, then presenting yourself as a super active person is at best going to attract someone who wouldn't be a long term fit. If your aim is simply to get casual sex, then I still think you'll have a better time if you present yourself authentically, albeit in a sanitised version. And I agree with what you're saying about growing. I agree when…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 05:25 PM
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I periodically nuke my reddit accounts for privacy. Yes see a range between 4-7 is huge. Its not that I don't think some people are closer to idealised beauty standards than others, it's that the confidence to declare a universally true number out of 10 seems like a stretch. Like, sure I could say some guy is a 7. But I couldn't speak for all women, it would vary enough that that would have that same guy labeled as below average for some and above average for others. Yeah I agree fat men are kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 05:20 PM
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Yes, sometimes the people we fancy don't fancy us, and the people we don't fancy fancy us. I don't think it's anything you do really, someone would like you or not. Sure you can grab someone's attention, but that doesn't spark true romantic interest out of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 05:02 PM
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Interesting, how does one find out their rating? I'm not saying men can't afford to be chubby. Just when people talk about short men and fat women, it irks me as it sort of implies only women get fat. Yeah 10 years younger is more reasonable I suppose, 30 years old would have fit my comment better. When I was 20 I didn't want to go out with some 30 year old on the hunt for breeding material. I wanted to study, hang out with my friends, party and date boys my own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:59 PM
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Yeah, fwiw, I think this is all reasonable. As I've got older I've learnt when is the time to use my voice and when is the time to say OK let's move on. Definitely something that you (hopefully) learn as you mature. Why waste time arguing. Once a debate has veered into an argument its a waste of everyone's time and emotion and that's time to put it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:55 PM
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True, but I don't relish it. I think guys choke a bit when swallowing TRP and think their lot will improve in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:51 PM
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I think the in-group definition will always be different to the mainstream definition. It's the same with feminism here. Constantly have men incorrectly defining feminism and the relationship between the different types. It doesn't really invalidate someone's core ideas of dating in of itself though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:27 PM
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Yeah normally I try and avoid that kind of language, but those police deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:24 PM
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I didn't see you say date 3-5 before your last one, maybe you did, I find reddit fucking annoying for threads. So if a woman sleeps with you on date 3 does that mean you less want to date here?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:19 PM
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Nah everyone is saying this shit a lot. Women have historically been defined by their relationships to men, so it stands to reason that affirming otherwise means more for their liberation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:12 PM
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Why not? According to TRP men thrive from competing for resources for each other. Tis the natural way. Therefore women gravitate to the fella with the most resources. So surely hypergamy is essentially sexual meritocracy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:11 PM
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Because if the act of having sex with a woman makes you respect her less as a human then you need to hold yourself to account for the fact you've left her in a worse position. Personally I think date 3-5 is a good spot, but guys on here talk as though if she doesn't have sex on the first night she's a bitch and if she does she's a slut. I don't think it can be easy for men to empathise with those conflicting pressures.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:09 PM
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How a woman might determine her own reproductive success would be something you'd have to ask her to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 03:05 PM
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That stuff is the honey to attract women to marriage, where they take on a larger proportion of the domestic and emotional labour. If you want a traditional woman and a traditional relationship you need fo lay out those trappings. Personally if I was marrying someone I'd be expecting to have partially merged finances by then, but ngl I would love to be proposed to. Don't recall think that's discrimination since I am happy to also give that energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:15 PM
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But according to men here women devalue with each sexual encounter, therefore sleeping with someone is a bigger commitment of resources, since they can't be replenished.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:11 PM
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No, but they do need to be intentionally designed to have intention which is what I was referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:09 PM
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I've wondered the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:08 PM
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Anytime a man makes a weird or gross comment they freak the fuck out. Does that actually sound unreasonable to you? It seems a little odd that you think men deserve to be understood, but women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:07 PM
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Interesting question, don't know the answer, everything below is speculation. 'The Queen Mother' was how Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was known as, but it isn't like an official title as I understand. Camilla doesn't have her own titles, although she is gentry. If and when she is widowed they will find a courtesy title to use, no doubt plans have already been drawn up regarding this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:05 PM
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As I said, women become less desirable to men who are looking for fertility. There are a few men who look good as they age, but I do think overall its become a talking point used largely as motivation fuel for grinding their twenties hitting the gym and not getting any. It's like seeing teens saying they want to become a popstar, maybe some will but most won't. So they should be under no illusions. I think men on here as well underestimate the impact that their weight has on their look. I myself…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 01:26 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 01:20 PM
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Sure, over time you could become more attractive. But the simple process of ageing just improve male attractiveness. Some people's features need some time to settle in. But I think that's also the case for women. Sure, men who are womb hunting may prefer young flesh, but the male gaze isn't the only one. I think also you're not taking into account that young men are less likelyto be fat or balding then men. Once those hit no amount of gym or crypto will make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:39 PM
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Ah I see OK. Yeah, that is just nosey. Just say no. Or ignore them. Hopefully people will get used to it. I know people treat me differently when I've lost weight and it can be weird. Only thing to do is remember it's their crap!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:37 PM
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See I think I'd quite like that connection with someone. But it has to be one that is genuinely nourishing and safe for both people. I'd like to have kids, not sure I will as again, i would need to be in the right relationship. If I didn't end up having kids I'm not sure I would need a lifelong partner as I think I would want to do things like travelling, studying and light farming instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:11 PM
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Either people are being nosey or you may have stepped into disordered eating. I hope its the first one and if its the latter I hope you've got support. Well done on your weight loss though, it's not easy but it's worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:08 PM
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If a woman doing a bimbo bit for low hanging funnies has a man be radicalised into trp then something else was going on. How can men on this sub call women out for not being "accountable" whilst still blaming them for their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:06 PM
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Yes I agree about feminist men sometimes having this as well. It's just none of what you are saying makes the idea of having a relationship with a man sound particularly safe or pleasant. Not that I am saying you should be persuading me to or something, just an observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:02 PM
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Funny thing is, by the time a man gets to his thirties, he's more attractive to women then he used to be : better career, better put together, manlier etc If you're already attractive to women then you will mature as a prospect. But if you weren't before then hitting your thirties won't make you more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:58 AM
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Closing eyes doesn't mean anything like that necessarily. It can just be easier to concentrate like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:56 AM
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The military is the one thing I'd be really happy to see go, although it wouldn't be advisable. What's the difference between a government organising money pooled together to defend against an invading an army as to defend against a pandemic, or poverty? The free market isn't a natural force. Humans are social creatures and we maximise our potential when we collectivise our efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:53 AM
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I don't know too much about the American Post war economy. In the UK we simply did not invest in the right way for a lot of issues, although there was a lot of good work done then. I lean more communist than anti communist though. So I don't think we will change each others mind on our core political opinions. No, I will not live with a violently angry man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:49 AM
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Bureaucracy is a very loose term, but it covers all sorts of very essential activities. Maintaining good financial records, property planning and assessing work, governance, legal etc. The UK has I believe the best rated government website, and our websites for things like banks tend to be very good. So yes, accessing something like benefits might be easier then somewhere else. But that's a good thing, these things should be as simple as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:38 AM
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Churchill didn't support the formation of the NHS and massively did not understand that this was something that the British public were having, with or without his permission. He did not understand his position, that as elevated as it was, did not put him into the place of telling the people what they were allowed. Sure, I won't lie, I don't like a mess, also don't like someone repressed though. I don't like being surprised by someone's emotional outbursts and I need a lot of time, I like someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:27 AM
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As a public administrator I would be fascinated to hear about the reputation of our bureaucracy abroad and how accurate this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:24 AM
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No worries. Yeah something about it is very "I ran down the stairs boobily".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:22 AM
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The age thing skeeves a lot of people out that's true, it just dings the nonce alarm for a lot of people. The exception that proves the rule I guess. I dont really feel embarrassed to be disgusted at even at the most politely phrased "I like 18 year old girls best" from a 30 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:21 AM
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No, I'm English, the first country to industrialise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:19 AM
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The 'system' was not designed, there is no intention. This is the creator fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:18 AM
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I think there are lots of guys who are sweet and would be good partners. I don't think feminist men are more unreliable though, ideally someone who had those values would have good communication and be emotionally honest. I also pay taxes (though not into the same pot it would seem) and I'm fine with those things existing. They tried cutting taxes in my country recently and it didn't go too well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:18 AM
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The Open University is a British distance learning education provider that goes all the way up to Master degrees. Very well regarded as all sorts of people study with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:13 AM
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Yes, one may be costing the taxpayer money, but that is due to all sorts of reasons. Wages in my country have been stagnant for years. No one can afford to stay home. If people stopped having babies then this would prevent that government from having future taxpayers and society collapsing wouldn't be good for business. I actually do agree that government gives a disproportionate amount of support to families. As a single woman on a medium income I don't feel like my needs are addressed at the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:11 AM
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No because I'm not aiming for a traditional relationship. It's all risk and if it does go tits up you'll be accused of 'financial rape'. The logical choice for a modern woman is to either not have a relationship, date women or date a feminist man and have a more modern relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:07 AM
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Without maternity leave women would be more dependent on men. In terms of social policy, I think strong public services help our communities and economy thrive. There is an economic benefit in collecting our money together and improving society like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:01 AM
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That's your choice to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:53 AM
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In real life people tend to not go around being obnoxious about their preferences. That's always been what people have an issue with, how those preferences are communicated. Again, I've not seen men here be shamed for having preferences. Men here get asspats for being brave enough to say they won't date 'fatties'.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:52 AM
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I think our syntax is just different, I don't think we disagree. I'm saying, I do believe a woman could do what was in the post, but that this specific one is seems fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:49 AM
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Are you saying women should or shouldn't be entitled to support from the government? The way you worded this reads ambiguously to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:48 AM
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But modern men simply aren't capable of being the provider that kind of woman needs. It's a big risk to perform that kind of unpaid labour for someone. Most men aren't worth that risk, so it's more in a woman's interest to have her own career, not date looking for marriage etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:10 AM
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That just seems like being unable to empathise with anyone who isn't like yourself. But I would much rather make my own bad choices than have my decisions made for me by someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:03 AM
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I've not seen this happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:02 AM
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They call it "enjoy the decline" and it means they have decided the world is terrible and they're going to make it worse. Not sure how that is a pleasant way to live but to each their own I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:40 AM
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I'm not sure how Historically informed this is. Sexual history is not as uniform as this would suggest. For example, sex work originated as forms of temple worship. This would suggest a very different cultural understanding of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:38 AM
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A lot of men seem to think that once a woman has reduced the amount of time she waited to have sex with a new sexual partner means she must never increase it again in the future. It really depends on the situation. If I've just bad a long chatty date with a guy I like on a weekday, I'm not going to be fucking him. Doesn't mean I'm playing games, just would be enough socialising for one evening. The fact I shagged some guy on a first date once or whatever is not a part of the calculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:32 AM
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The difference is whether that person is causing harm in how they communicate their preferences. If you come online and talk about how fat women are disgusting fatties, then yes you have the right to have that preference, but that right doss not limit the right of others to say that is a tad cuntish.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:18 AM
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Yes there are women out there who also refuse to move out from their parents and get a job, and maybe you could start a relationship with one, but the problem is how are you going to meet each other? But I disagree that its becoming cheaper to survive. It's absolutely not. ETA judging from the comments I may have taken "no ambition" too literally. If you just mean men who aren't working a high powered job, then sure. Just like, meet a normal woman and settle down with her, nowt to it really.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:15 AM
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I agree with this. That's why I just cut them off when they show this kind of indecision. It's a waste of everyone's time and going to end in tears otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:11 AM
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Your narcissism is no one else's fault. Hold yourself to account.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:08 AM
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In this economy? Absolutely nor.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:07 AM
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Honestly this follows every TRP talking point so exactly my first thought was man writing woman. I certainly can believe anyone, including a woman, could be going out with someone and then someone they fancy more comes along. But this feels a bit off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:03 AM
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So you think the system is stacked against men, but women's problems are all their own poor economic choices? Tbh to somee extent I agree. If women stopped doing unpaid care work society would fall apart and we would be given more financial power.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 08:59 AM
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Affirmations are scientifically proven to help people, so if that is what OP is doing good for him. (Although written down here rather than privately is an unusual choice).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 08:57 AM
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It's the problem with NPC as an insult around here. Everyone is the main character of their own story. So whilst one may wish for the NPCs to look nicer as they fill one's world, in fact one isn't even an NPC in her world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 08:53 AM
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Right OK, just not an environment I've been in. OP seems to think anyone who doesn't agree with him hasn't partied or is very young. I went raving a lot as a young un and I've certainly seen some salacious behaviour, but I am struggling to tell between the core story that OP thinks is useful and the culturally specific content he's thrown in for seasoning e.g. ermagawd he's so hawtttt. But this is why I prefer nights that are more raves/DIY nights/ queer clubbing etc. Focus on people and music i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 08:51 AM
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The boat thing is a myth. Women and children have been thrown overboard more times than they've been prioritised.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 08:47 AM
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I am impressed, just with my mind not my knickers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:45 AM
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Yeah they just seem like very disparate groups of people who wouldn't be interacting very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:15 AM
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It just sounds like you got a few years older and your peer group matured.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:45 PM
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If you're looking to connect with crossfit ladies it may go down very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:40 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:39 PM
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I think it depends on what you mean by bad luck in dating. I think modern dating is something of a challenge for everyone, of every type, because it's so hard to build authentic connections in a digital world. We are bombarded by so much information, which i think has warped our beauty standards in ways which impacts sexuality. For the average man, I do think this means there will be struggles with dating as everyone is, but there are lots and lots of perfectly average, and below average, guys i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:38 PM
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Nah I definitely think there's some pure Dommes out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:29 PM
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I would like to return the mental image this gave me please.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:27 PM
2

Yeah agreed, it's like the versailles glide, or a Swan swimming, a graceful movement hiding a frenzy of activity whilst appearing to do not much. Maybe some men disapprove of this but in the same way that they don't want women criticising men's ways of doing things that same courtesy should be reciprocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:25 PM
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You're saying that like only women are ever fat? I think trp guys are just mad at women getting fatter because it shrinks the amount of thin women which in their free market interpretation of sexual politics means there's more competition for them. But really I think that's totally the wrong angle to coming in at on obesity. We have food systems which are hyper globalised and the diets they've created, along with time poor societies means diets have just got really bad. So yeah if my weight offe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:23 PM
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I think in those instances women do put in effort, they just don't like to be seen to be making an effort. Men like to think the whole thing was their idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:17 PM
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I mean you're basically just describing young people on the lash but in this way that's half clutching your pearls and half into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:15 PM
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For example, when the stem nerds have to compete with the gangster bros OK but is this what's happening???
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:11 PM
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Where I live cold approaching people, regardless of gender, is less common than some places. Whilst I am certainly proactive, I imagine i am less so then a lot men. Quite frankly if I was as proactive as a man was, plus had to deal with the inbox of an average woman, it would simply create an amount of paperwork that I cannot afford to do. I really dislike when dating becomes that much of a slog, and it's what has me deleting the apps for months on end.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:10 PM
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Is this actually what the world looks like where you live? It sounds like Spring Breakers or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:04 PM
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For sure and I appreciate you saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:03 PM
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I actually think with my first relationship I was flogging a dead horse for quite a while, and I think with the wisdom of experience I'd have ended it sooner. As I'm older now I don't feel I can waste my time in a relationship that isn't pleasurable and isn't compatible with my goals. My time is more precious to me now, and I've built a life for myself too which I suppose I'm somewhat precious about. I think this is a common experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:53 PM
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Honestly I just got lost on the Internet one day when having a fag break at work, and I occasionally dip back to have a look. I'm a feminist and a communist so my views don't exactly chime with most people here, but I am always intrigued to know what others think, even if I think it's a bit wacky.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:49 PM
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Ikr, it's 2022, we're over simping for white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:48 PM
2

It's definitely impressive, but not in a sexual way if that's what you mean more specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:43 PM
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Women are a minority here and if we did show our insecurities and vulnerabilities here they would be weaponised against us. Not by all the men here, but a substantial proportion would. You simply cannot have rational debate and discussion with someone who makes someone else's pain and trauma about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:30 PM
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It truly is a crime to be a lady whose ever shagged a good looking fella on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:29 PM
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I think you're underestimating the amount of work women put into these things e.g. the mad beauty standards you have to conform to nowadays to be considered ok. Men will say there's no effort but I'm not sure how they would know tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:28 PM
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It seems as though you're comparing the depth of your inner life with the superficial life of others. You don't know what anyone else is thinking, or how they perceived any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 07:17 PM
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The cultural and emotional benefits will vary more couple to couple. I'm talking about the material benefits it will confer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 07:01 PM
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I think it's like sleep. Some people are really good at falling asleep the minute they lay down their head, they don't really think about it. Then you have insomniacs who try to understand why they can't fall asleep. They try understand it on an intellectual level, and whilst that's useful at the population level, it doesn't bring them closer to good sleep, or maybe it teaches them a few tricks where they can fall asleep if they follow a very precise routine. But all these efforts make them even…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:47 PM
1

I know this is a common talking point on reddit, but in real life I've never even seen a single engagement be broken off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:44 PM
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When it's done well it's quite good yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:41 PM
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That's not how the average redpiller talks about it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:40 PM
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If you're having children and you're a man could be a good idea if you want the right to put your name on the birth certificate. Also the general benefits of power of attorney, wills, inheritance etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:37 PM
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I won't speak to how men socialise with one another, but from what I have observed women tend to develop more intimacy in their friendship, which is something that presumably is a social need for them. Whether or not that exists as an evolutionary or learnt behaviour I couldn't tell you though. For example, I've had friends wash my hair after being injured, that sort of thing. I am curious if that sort of intimacy is something men want in their friendships. I think having deep connected support …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:22 PM
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So when you were sleeping with the women where you were punching, that must mean you were delusional then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:16 PM
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Whilst I agree that people who've had poor models for learning healthy relationships are at a disadvantage, I don't see anything in the post that would justify saying those people rarely can make good partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:12 PM
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The only options you can envision are ones where they suffer, so I think what is interesting is the emotional response this triggers in you. How will you feel if the answer was eventually they find the right partner and relationship? Why do you think that isn't possible? Sounds like you're talking about women taking their time after a brutal break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:09 PM
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If you can't find a middle England woman in Yorkshire then you're not looking very bloody hard...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:02 PM
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Your second statement contradicts the first one. Men who are angry at women for their lack of sexual success demanding empathy from women without offering it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:09 PM
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I think we run in very different social circles, so it was interesting to hear what your experiences with this have been. Overall though, having a romantic relationship doesn't necessarily cure loneliness, and I think if someone isn't feeling a connection it's best to be honest about that. Otherwise they would be stringing them along. But loneliness goes beyond the romantic. I think our late capitalism digital lives is kind of anathema to genuine connection sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:00 PM
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Neither is harmful. Everyone is necessitated to make their own choices as they see fit. Saying that, the institutions that may be apparently undermined by casual sex may not be ones that the person having the sex would care about. For example, I have no respect for the nuclear family. I am all about it takes a village/extended family/chosen family etc. Those are my values. So if me snagging about undermined the nuclear family I wouldn't be getting my violin out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 12:24 PM
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There definitely was a period where I noticed some men using PUA tactics, which is how I came to know of this whole area. It really fascinated me psychologically because I think those tactics rely on women entering a 'fawns type response to being intimidated, which is manipulative and unethical. That's the only real example of the 'alpha' male I can think of actually encountering, other than rugby lads as a student. Not really anything I'd label as toxic though. I don't think it's as common here…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 12:22 PM
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Another one was telling me about how not being laid as a man is somehow analogous for women being murdered.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 12:13 PM
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I don't really understand how they can be all about supporting short/ugly men etc and say their mental health is ruined by people calling them bad looking. And yet, they will say the most vicious things about women being fat. And if its not fat it's weird comments about vaginas being stretched out, which don't feel borne of having a long term AFAB partner, but are instead sort of catchphrases of derision. Body shaming is horrible, no matter what gender you are. I honestly have seen so much chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 12:12 PM
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I agree. They believe facts don't care about your feelings, but have strong feelings about other people's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 12:08 PM
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You're conflating toxicity on the macro level with how agreeable an individual is. Toxic masculinity as a phrase is not saying "this man is bad", although it has been used like that. Rather what makes it useful is its describing a series of cultural conditions that prescribe what masculinity looks like but does not give most men the tools to safely achieve it. Well that's how I see it anyway. Body shaming is horrible, does that mean you admit men don't care about women's mental health, since the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:56 AM
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I think women have that just as much. Don't we have men on here saying only men can compartmentalise sex and have sex with just the "body parts". I don't see anything to suggest women are less likely to see sex as an important way of feeling loved and sexy by their partner then men. The five love languages is, AFAIK, popular psychology though, not substantive science. So I do question how useful the concept is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:40 AM
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I didn't infer that from what she wrote. She's having an inevitable emotional reaction, including anger. We shouldn't get into the habit of minimising women's anger like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:35 AM
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Yeah all this shows is men who are shooters are less likely to have social bonds, which is the most likely option. If it was the other way round they'd be saying women are terrible for picking men who cause atrocities. I don't blame all men for the actions of a few, but blaming male shooting sprees just seems to be showing the lack of accountability they accuse women of having. If men are so accountable, why can't redpillers accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:23 AM
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Quiet confidence speaks very loudly. I think on here there tends to be an assumption that the men who aren't doing very well with women have positive traits that those men who are doing well don't have. I am not sure that's the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:19 AM
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I think this is a very American centric post, which is fine, but I'm not sure every woman in the world is wishing for a ratchet man. I think the key factor you're missing is the hyperaccelerationism of popular culture, i believe this is what would be driving any increase in sexual dimorphism. I don't tend to see things in the emotional way a lot of men on here do though, so I don't hand wring at this sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:17 AM
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I don't think male loneliness is undeserving of sympathy or empathy at all. Two main points though; Women's loneliness is much more taboo. If its mentioned on here it's in the context of women as failures. I have never seen a man on here express a single shred of empathy for a woman experiencing anything like that. So whilst I do my best to promote empathy it is a one way street. The best way to receive kindness is to give it first. Secondly, where male loneliness extends into needing sex and co…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:13 AM
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Yes fat is treated as almost a slur so much that it's hard to not have a visceral reaction, but I'd like to move away from that. And the amount of people that call people "fatties" on here. What a terrible mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:28 AM
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Thank yoh David, that is very nice of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:26 AM
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No I understand that TRP isn't conducting first hand research, however you should note that there is a lot of empire evidence that directly contradicts those views. I have no issue with redpillers citing sources, however, in my experience here they are not utilised in a way that would have me running away crying. I've had several instances where the source cited directly contradicts their point. I also find that they don't like it if you critique the source itself because its science and there u…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:25 AM
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Men say they prefer skinny women all the time. No one is foisting fat women onto you. I'm not American and I don't know who Steve Harvey is so I can't get into all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:36 AM
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I feel bad for anyone whose struggling, but I refuse to feel bad for anyone who decides they can use other people's so-called worthiness as a barometer of their success.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:30 AM
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It looks pathetic like someone doing a winnie the pooh and wearing no trousers or pants but they've got a top on. It sparks the same feeling I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:23 AM
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When I say cherry picked I'm not saying that TRP is unique in this, I felt I was clear but I am saying that everyone is doing that basically. That's normal and fine, what makes it science is having those processes around it to control for that. In terms of what would TRP need to do, I think it really would depend on what specific policy area you meant. But as I said before, ethics, governance, scrutiny, peer review etc all play a role. Saying all this, science isn't some sort of crown I'm trying…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:21 AM
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No I am just outlining my basic understanding of scientific method. I don't think people sharing opinions online with some cherry picked sources off Google scholar makes something science, but that isn't to say it can't be a worthy, interesting and meaningful thing to do. I have no issue with ideology and movements, although I've had TRPs on here say that TRP isn't a movements its basically a cabal of men with the same motivations. Some of the most important things to happen in human history are…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:36 AM
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Yes clearly there will be existing studies which create data points that are useful for you to make your point, that doesn't mean that the body of redpill literature is therefore science.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:28 AM
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It depends how granular you want to go, a lot of the lasses on vindicta know the angle of their canthal tilt and all that. Some will say that stuff is important, others less so. I think as well if you're bringing in demure that's something that's going to really vary place to place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:27 AM
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No, I'd describe that more as the researching activities of an ideology. I would say for something to be straight up science it does need some of the traditional institutional apparatus like ethics and peer review.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:22 AM
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Damn this sub loves to hate fat women. I'm a bigger lady, sometimes I'm not sometimes I am, and honestly I probably lead a similar life to anyone here. I enjoy self improvement and set myself achievable goals and meet them and onto the next. I have no issue with being called fat if its not said with malice, but it doesn't mean I'm not a grafter or that I don't put effort into my relationships. I'm really lucky cus I have a good network around me, but i feel like some guys are mad at the idea of …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:19 AM
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You're right, they all slap on about double standards, but also are happy to say that it's a disgrace not more fat women are dying alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:14 AM
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Chad theory is not science.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:11 AM
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I think this is going to really vary where you live. I'm in the UK where multidating is a pretty recent concept compared to the US from what I can gather, people tend to quickly establish monogamy or are out and out poly... I'm not saying people don't get stuck in situationships though ofc. I don't know if it's about it being wrong or right to assume exclusivity. Just that two people may come away from the same cold facts with different feelings about them. Its always good to be checking in on e…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:09 AM
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55, I come from a refugee background but I'm pretty well educated and stable in life. Interesting thought experiment, thanks for putting it together. Would be fascinated to see a feminine attractiveness calculator.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:05 AM
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That's not how genetics work. You don't just mix your parents genes together and pull out an average, at least, not always and not with height as far as I understand. Also short women who like tall guys aren't like "mmm some delectable genes for me to reproduce" they're more like "damn hes hot and tall I must climb him".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:54 AM
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Sex can also not be a big deal, and it not be something you want to do with everyone who offers. But I don't think what you're saying has a basis in reality. Average looking men are having sex. The idea that women are all fucking the same alphas is something that was come up with by some men who never even speak to women, and therefore have absolutely no idea how women think or what they are actually up to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:39 PM
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How did you come to the conclusion that women confer higher status to men who've had a lot of sexual partners? I don't think that number of sexual partners is as much of as a concern where I live as it is for a lot of people on this sub. I honestly think that's a medieval attitude dressed up in scientific language, as though the average women shouldn't shag about because a hypothetical stone age man wouldn't have liked it. But overall your premise is basically "if women had more sexual partners …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:11 PM
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There is no social solution for sexless men that are suitable, society cannot supply sexual labour. Society can however, quite merrily, forbid murder. You're comparing not having sex with being murdered. Whose saying spree killers are natural selection? You? Why? So that women being murdered somehow makes you feel like even more of a victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 08:25 PM
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I honestly have seen guys on here say similar, because they seem resentful that women lock them out emotionally of their networks because of the fear of them. I think hard-core redpillers maybe wouldn't care though, you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 03:07 PM
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Definitely a big difference between minimalist and under developed living spaces. The former has considered all the main activities that will take place, as well as items that need to be stored, but there isn't clutter and those systems are elegant and efficient. Undeveloped would be there's no blanket and it's cold, or there's only a big light. That sort of thing. Minimalism is fine with me, but undeveloped wouldn't be. A man that can't see out the back of his head isn't attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 01:00 PM
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Firstly, I think the "isn't it funny" is a very passive aggressive and bad faith way of starting any debate. Secondly, women who are murdered ARE mocked and belittled. You yourself are using the murder of women as some sort of yardstick, as though sexually unsuccessful men are as much victims? Being mocked indirectly for not having sex is not pleasant , but it just doesn't exist on the same plane as discussing representations of murder victims. The two issues don't map onto one another, thematic…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 12:56 PM
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Redpillers believe women shouldn't assume men man be rapists or abusers, so I don't think this point stands at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:55 AM
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I'm a communist so I think I just disagree with everything you've said here. Overall though the idea there is one singular feminist approach to all these topics is a shallow reading, feminism has been around a lot longer than the manosphere, and so it has developed even more different subtypes, some of which are diametrically opposed to one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 06:13 PM
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Did you say at the time when you paid "this chicken pasta and house glass of rose is on me, in return I would like to wriggle about on top of you on my mattress that's on a floor, I will accept no less".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 06:10 PM
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Maybe the fact you don't even want to hear what women have to say on this shows a weak spot that could be worked on if you genuinely want want improve your conversation. I thjnk if the date has been set up then each sending one longish text once a day will suffice, that way you can have a couple of conversation threads going without it becoming too much effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 06:03 PM
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Men are applauded for their preferences all the time. It's women who are shamed if they prefer tall men, or handsome men, or funny men, or rich men. I don't think you can judge the happiness of others based on what you see on dating apps. When men on here have a tough time that validates their position, a woman however, if she's in a good place that invalidates her views, and if she is struggling that also does.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 11:18 AM
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OK, in that case, which positive traits do you believe wome have which men don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 11:13 AM
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What is an example of a gender-specific cultural value? If someone is raised without them, does that mean that eventually society would become less gendered if people were raised by opposite gender parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:31 AM
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There's nothing evolutionary and Eternal about modern day misogyny, it is simply a symptom. Men used to die in much higher numbers, in wars they would fight with one another. This gave them purpose and solidarity. Work was more physical too. For a lot of men they don't see much that they can contribute, and they can't get what they would like either. So they blame women. A woman of similar standing to him but who has done better in life. She should be looking up to him! But of course, it would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:29 AM
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Red pill tells men they are much more special than women. If a woman does something you don't like she's a bitch. If your female boss doesn't give you a promotion it's because she's a bitch. There's TRP that will call 8 year.old girls "roasties" because a high proportion of them are white supremacists who believe child rape is fine. The danger, in short, is that you become the sort of degenerate that rubs shoulders with paedos, rapists, fascists and other pondlife. It doesn't sound like a pleasa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:25 AM
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Women are reactive and are shaped by men, not vice versa. I don't find this a well developed line of thought. You're not privy to the machinations of women. Women are often accused of being manipulative. Surely that would be an example of a woman shaping a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:21 AM
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Does that mean you think men can't raise girls in the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:20 AM
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Where did I say I felt attacked? I said this poster, and others like him, spend their time rubbishing women's empathy, but also spend time complaining about not having access to it. Despite making it clear that they would not be reciprocating that emotional labour.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:18 AM
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You're 18, who is asking anyone out for a formal age at the age? You just go to parties and flirt and meet people and go out. Get off the Internet and go chat with actual people. Not chatting up necessarily, just chatting. If you do that the the conversation will be mutually escalated by both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:11 PM
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Nah. Everything you said is done a shit ton by men as well, people are flaky af when it comes to dating people they barely know. No one should play games. But women aren't praised for playing games. Women are expected to be coy and demure yet also assertive and confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:09 PM
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No I'm talking about suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:44 PM
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Yes it does, that doesn't mean that it cures depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:43 PM
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How can you hear about someone being abused and somehow make yourself the victim? It has nothing to do with you. Not everything is about you. Some women are abused, so you hate all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:02 PM
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The idea that women have divided men into this way is a myth. Men are in two categories - cute and not for me. Within cute there are different types of attraction, but anyone with the right personality could be a goer for either sex or a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:01 PM
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OK, that's interesting, thanks for sharing and I hope you are able to find community that is the right fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:58 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:56 PM
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They all sound absolutely fucking terrible to be hoenst and like they'd all end in divorce. I guess A. because it sounds like at least there might be some good times along the way as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:50 PM
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Sorry you're going through that. Do you think you may have some depression?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:47 PM
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Could you take a board game or a pack of playing cards to play together so there's less small talk and more big talk?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:46 PM
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When people on here talk about women not holding themselves to account are they talking about promiscuity? Because no one needs to be held to account for consensual sex they had. You can reflect on your choices of course but really. It doesn't fucking matter. If it distresses you that the dating pool of women you would marry gers smaller as women get fatter and have more sexual partners that's your problem. Those women are doing just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:40 PM
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I agree about the height thing, I think a lot of women have a 'need' to feel smol and dainty compared to their partner for them to feel good as a woman. I think a lot of body shaming of others could be eradicated if that person examined their internalised shame about their own body so they could in turn learn to not shame others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:36 PM
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If I may ask, what had you join and what has you leaving?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:34 PM
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I largely agree with this, but I do think that the social context for how these differences develop needs to be considered. One of the most defining traits of humans is our drive to share information with one another. That means as a society we can make decisions about how we reinforce those gender norms. As you say, this includes by recognising that an individual is best placed to explain what their own gender is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:32 PM
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Depressed women can hook up with guys for quick dopamine. This isn't how depression works. Or sex. Or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:28 PM
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I guess they'd try asking a lot of people how attractive they found their partner. I know there was one which found how people physically imagined their partner changed with how in love they were, which they measured by showing slightly altered images of their partner, and the ones with the least strife picked the nicest pictures. It was so long ago I can't remember where it was. But yes you can examine this sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:33 AM
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You're just in love with the idea of men. You have a men are cool and creative and special mentality. Men have no more purpose or drive than women, that's just something men with not much else going on tell themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:30 AM
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Its just my issue with "equal rights equal fights" as though men weren't beating women for time. It's fine I am an emotional pushover and 5'2" but I have a weirdly decent right hook, so I'm glad I was able to stand up for myself, 2 warnings is enough for anyone imo, man woman anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 01:00 AM
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I don't have a video, it'll have to be a story. I was at a club, an OK spot with quite a mixed crowd. Waiting for a drink and a suited man pinched my bum. I turned around and told him not to do that. I turned away and he did it again, harder, so of course I shouted at him to not fucking touch me again. I turn back and he does it a THIRD TIME so I turned around and slapped his face so hard he fucking fell over and his mates apologised and said he'd been drinking, but they only intervened when the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:50 AM
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You have to be compatible to some extent irt food. I'm a vegetarian and I don't think I'd have much success dating someone with that kind of diet, nor vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:42 AM
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I'm not against things in that general area, but I wouldn't like the idea of being called names like that, unless it felt really affectionate. It just would make me feel less close and into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:06 AM
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Do you get as much pleasure watching women hurting men who attack them first?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:03 AM
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Thats assuming they had casual sex only through OLD. Vast majority of casual sex I've had has been just from the world. And yeah the people who exist in, or use, a thing can and should still criticise that thing. I'm sure there's a lot of guys on here who complain about OLD all day here but will be sinking hours into it as well. I wouldn't say that's hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:02 AM
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To do the dishes? Eh? Surely they're just as much his dishes? Do you not maintain your own personal cleanliness unless you can have a nice little reward? You do that shit cus it has to be done. Men talk about only wanting thin women, or young women, or white women all the fucking time. You don't want to recognise women's achievements, you don't want to see women as people. It is entirely in women's interests to ensure that men like that do not have access to sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:57 PM
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I don't know why you think women don't get beer goggles though. It doesn't really matter which is easier though. Ideally you would want a partner who was attractive and nice, and I don't think that is gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:52 PM
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It just doesn't make sense to me, the vast majority of abortions will have been fathered by someone who doesn't want it either surely. It benefits everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:51 PM
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I meant from some kind of study, not your personal assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:48 PM
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But you yourself have rubbished empathy this whole time. So which is it? Empathy is bad, or its bad when women keep it for other women and don't share it with men? But you've said men don't do empathy. So you're asking for women to give it but not men to give it back surely.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:47 PM
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A 10/10 will feel entitled to others like that, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:37 PM
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Thanks for clarifying the difference, that makes sense. I didn't realise blackpill had strains within it but that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:35 PM
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What's the similar salaries got to do with it? If you have a partner who works full time but earns less you'd make them do more chores?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:33 PM
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Men complain about women all the fucking time. This very thread has had men tell me it's fucked if a woman doesn't settle, she's fucked if she does. A woman can't please men on here because in their eyes she sinned by merely existing. I agree that you shouldn't commit to someone who doesn't contribute domestically. I had to do it myself, it was sad but I'm not living like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:33 PM
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So you wish for men to not be censored because this would be a good way to censor women? I don't know anything about the moderating of this sub tbh. I say proud misogynists deliberately. I'm not labelling anyone a misogynist who I don't think knows they are and are proud of it. If you think AWALT and dislike women that's misogyny. I don't see why one wouldn't own that label in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:12 PM
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I'm glad to hear it. I really hate the idea of young men who are sad finding spaces which encourages that kind of thinking, as well as hatred for self and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:10 PM
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I think we have very different views and I don't think we would be able to understand each others perspective. Personally I'm a communist, which does not mean what i think you think it means though. It's about redistributing wealth across society, and it intersects with feminism by advocating for women's rights, and yes for trans people. Those are not flaws. It does not bring people apart. What brings people apart is the inequal wealth structures which favour a small minority over everyone else,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:08 PM
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I would probably lump that in with things like if I was going on a date as a woman I'd scrub up and not turn up in my trackies. You kind of have to make lots of very quick judgements on OLD, which is one of it's many flaws. Thats why I've ended up with a few of my go to filters which include no sticking out tongues and they have to have something in their bio (doesn't need to be long but more than just height). No doubt I'll have filtered out some great people I'd have clicked with, which is unf…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:05 PM
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Not at all what I said, but if believing that makes you feel more comfortable than sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:37 PM
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I honestly really hate that for men. I think the pressure is different for women but I've definitely felt a lot of pressure to improve, just look hotter, but don't look like you try etc, be skinny but eat like a starving fat man. I really hope we can see more men influencer types in this area who preach positivity and gentleness. But I think a lot of people would just dismiss it as "copium".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:23 PM
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You should read ODY-C by Matt Fraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:12 PM
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That sounds like a book you would like to write, so you should just go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:09 PM
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Well I can see why that would be hurtful but it would be because his profile was shit at showing who he is. And to make it clear I am very much standing in a glass house right now, mine are definitely mediocre. Something I am meaning to sit down and look at with a mate but just hard to prioritise. But I don't think I would date someone who if I'd seen on OLD I'd have rejected for not being hot. I just wouldn't have seen the offer as it were.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:08 PM
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Aight, well there definitely is a lot of self improvement stuff by and for women, it just doesn't parallel as I said. I think women also like to mix and match advice coming from specialists e.g. i get my Nutritional advice from this person whose great with that, fashion advice from so and so etc. I think men are more likely to access self improvement from a one stop shop type influencer. I don't think that's like an intrinsic gendered difference though, just how it happened, although self improv…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:06 PM
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I didn't say it was an intrinsic human right. Human rights are absolutely a social construct, meaning it is a piece of ongoing work we as a society must collectively undertake. Again, if someone doesn't want to perform abortions, they can just not become a doctor. If you don't like books, don't work in a library.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:02 PM
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You're just not very clued up on women's spaces I think. There's a lot of this stuff on tik tok., e.g. that girl and all that. Just because you can't see something doesn't mean it exists, and just because it doesn't parallell men's spaces perfectly doesn't mean it doesn't exist either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:01 PM
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In a choice between being fat and single or fucking you I agree, most women would rather be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:58 PM
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Are you ok? What is it you want to say that you're not allowed to? I'm surprised you think this sub leans pro woman. It is full of proud misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:57 PM
1

Have you used one?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:55 PM
5

Not a like for like comparison, and you're saying that the male way is the best way, and any distance from that makes a method lesser.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:55 PM
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Who expects men to change for women's benefit? If men want a girlfriend they should probably be aware of the ways they need to improve. If they are comfortable with their lot they don't need to. If they can score a 10/10 woman who does all the housework, had a well paid job and never complains whilst themselves being ugly, dirty and boring then they should do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:53 PM
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And they do. Makeup, skincare, fashion, dentistry, language classes, book clubs etc all wouldn't be massive industries if not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:52 PM
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Lol I love how mad men get that women they look down on have more options than they do. It's almost like men approaching dating like a desperate gambler has an impact on other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:50 PM
2

What, having human rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:48 PM
2

The average tinder man is looking for low effort sex, so they get low effort responses. If you don't want low effort interactions you have to look elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:37 PM
1

And no one has a right to be a doctor. If you aren't capable of performing abortions, for whatever reason, you shouldn't work in medicine. Plenty of human rights require the labour of others. Otherwise elderly people would be euthanised because they don't have the right to be cared for by nurses. Or children wouldn't be taught because it would require people to teach. So no, an individual is not compelled to perform labour, but I do think society is obliged to try and ensure those rights can be …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:29 PM
1

“aww that’s cute I gotta do that”. I'd tend to respond something along the lines of "awww well let me know if you do!" Then ask a question. If the response is flat, move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:21 PM
1

I'm really glad to hear that, and I hope your journey of self acceptance and serving your community brings you everything you want and need.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:15 PM
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Learning how to value oneself with a metric that was thoughtfully chosen is how you develop integrity. Whilst society will give you a lot of poor messaging, making that decision for yourself is the ultimate freedom. Who do you want to be, what do you want to do. I don't think eradicating that programming is simple or easy mind. You say that this is holding you back from a meaningful relationship, and I am inferring that that is what you would ultimately want. If your behaviour and your intention…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 02:57 PM
1

Horrendous, how are labour unions not a part of the 'market forces'. Also a lot of union busting going on where I live atm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 02:50 PM
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I'm not American, so I wouldn't know tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 02:20 PM
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I find people on here tend to say whichever is more important depending on which day of the week it is, but the answer is always because women are shallow. However men are more visual and can focus on just the pussy, as has also been said here, which is somehow not shallow. Idk, my point is there's a lot of early drafts of fully formed thoughts here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:58 PM
2

I'm really sorry that's happening, sending love. Are you unionised?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:53 PM
1

Why is that ironic?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:52 PM
13

I think a lot of glow up does need to come from developing confidence. Comparing it to blackpill is weird to me, aren't they all "I'm ugly because of my skull, better kill myself", nor sure where the improvement comes from there. The way men do things doesn't mean it's the best way to do it. Anyway vindicta shouldn't be a straight up advice sub, it should be about recommendations. Pictures of people with questions about how to improve are worse imo, like all the skincare subs. If you need more a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:51 PM
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I went on some of the remaining mansophere subs that day, and they were all like "this is what you get for...." followed by a men's issue. They're just mad at women for looking out for women's interest like they do for their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:46 PM
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In this specific scenario I would never suggest a partner quit their job to pursue acting. I'd encourage them to do bits and pieces but I don't think quitting your job to do it is a good idea. So i just can't see myself getting to that position. Whereas getting work as an extra if its your hobby is really cool. I think this applies to your wider point. You should encourage your partner to follow their dreams whilst also being able to meet their material needs. I don't think I'd bottle it up unti…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:43 PM
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Truly not, women's standards are higher for LTR, it's just that men on here refuse to believe women saying that traits like kindness and humour are irrelevant, nor are chemistry, values, interests, lifestyle factors at all. So you may think she's settled but without proof we have to assume a woman saying she loves her husband is more accurate than you, someone whose never met her, saying she doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:37 PM
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You have to put the child first. If they're young I don't think you need to go beyond "they didn't want to be with each other" type reason. If they're older and might have suspicions it might be necessary. I do think both parties need to be on board and see a family counsellor ideally though, so that it can be communicated not from a place of hurt. Whilst being cheated on is horrible, it isn't something a child should have to carry around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:18 PM
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I don't see how thats gendered. The average guy who marries an average woman is still going to be lusting over young flesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:16 PM
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Wooo nice one lad, I just got one too! What are you going to play first? I've been playing Spirit in the North which is cute but I want to get something meaty to get my teeth into, maybe Horizon Forbidden West.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:14 PM
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Exactly, it's like "oh you won't always have an abortion when a man wants? Then you can never have an abortion".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:11 PM
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I never understand why those men say it as a response to abortion rights. Abortion is a HUMAN right. If you want men to not be "on the hook" for child support, then support abortion, support free contraception, support women's education and job opportunities. It really just seems like they want to biologically reproduce but not have to be financially liable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:40 PM
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Women may be happy with lots of talking, that is why they talk on average 2x more words than men, but that does not mean men can be treated the same. Women talk more in private conversations with other women, men talk more in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:37 PM
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I really appreciate how you've written this. I've tried to kill myself quite a few times (I am a woman) and sometimes the way this stuff is talked about by men makes it feel like because I "failed" my pain wasn't real and it wasn't an issue. But it did matter and I did want to die and it really fucking hurt mentally and physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:35 PM
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I would be sad to hear that. I was seeing a fella who was able to be open about these things and ended up seeing his GP because of those conversations, and I think that's what makes relationships strong. And I've been on the other side, where I've confided something to a partner and they've gently encouraged me to see someone about it. I wouldn't feel cross or anything but I'd be quietly concerned about the strength of our bond if we were married and they'd never been able to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:33 PM
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Look at the comments to see why. They want the prerogative to do it, without the social consequences of it. You have the right to do it, and everyone else has the right to think it's a pathetic thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:30 PM
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I don't think you're comparing like for like. There's red pill women spaces, and all they talk about is how to make themselves better for their "captain". Vindicta is all about self improvement, looksmaxxing etc. Red pill is about the individual advancement of men, feminism is about the promotion of women's rights. They're not dichotomous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:26 PM
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Just seems like something you could have asked all the men on here that slag women off all the time as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:22 PM
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OK. Do you think women are bad people?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:17 PM
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Women find attractive men attractive, ok? Does this mean men are attracted to a bag of bricks? Do you think ugly men don't hit on beautiful women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:16 PM
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half of the population at least is in relationships with partners they don't regard as very attractive. Is this a known fact? I've never seen this before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:15 PM
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Men who want to improve their lot in divorce should be looking at increasing shared parental leave, improving childcare options, increasing education opportunities for women, improving maternal health care. I don't think it always skews towards women at all. In England we've got women having their children taken away by the courts against their wishes cus their dad paid a hack to say they were committing parental alienation. There's a shit ton of men who are shitty dads who've got their kids cus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:12 PM
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Men in general. Since you're applying some women saying "men aint shit" to mean "no women like men".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:08 PM
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Being introverted, shy etc are fine with me personally. Loner brings to mind connotations that would be off putting. Someone who has zero friends just wouldn't be the right fit for me I don't think. I'm quite introverted but sociable so I would like someone whose temperament was compatible with mine and vice versa. I would also worry that I would need to be everything for them socially. I may be interpreting the word loner differently to how others hear it mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:06 AM
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So you yourself think women are shit, but are mad women think men are shirt, wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 09:51 AM
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Because you're not aiming to be in a relationship with most men, just one. Do you go around asking men who say AWALT why they don't just start fucking dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 09:49 AM
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OK next time I fall in love, or have a really good shag, I'll tell you about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:21 AM
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I guess the second one because the only positive trait you listed for the first one was he's law abiding. The second one has a few positive traits listed. So I don't think this is like for like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:16 AM
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The way you experience the world is not the only way. There are other people out there with other experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:15 AM
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But you said before it's a product of toxic feminism. So which is it? And why are women serving their own interests a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:11 AM
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Everything I wrote related to your comment. You said you could tell exactly what my position is on everything because I don't like Jordan Peterson I said do it. You blamed the problems of sexless men on toxic feminism, I presumed its because you think that's what's stopping men having sex. If that's not what your actual issue is, then what is it about feminism specifically that's holding those men back from sorting out their lives? Those men don't give a fuck about women. Why should women give a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:40 PM
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We have to do most of what you're doing while appearing not to do it at all. Same moves but backwards and in heels.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:33 PM
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That's interesting. Are you just scared women don't like men as much as men like women? I'd throw something together but I don't have feelings for anyone at the moment and I don't think my heart would be in it I'm afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:24 PM
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Yeah that's cool then :) unless you really did look weird in the gym...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:22 PM
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You don't need a spider sense, she tried to flirt and you didn't flirt back, it's not a big deal at all. Unless you did fancy her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:05 PM
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Ewww I don't like that at all. I wouldn't think it was weird if she'd told him she didn't like it and he accepted that and changed it, but to double down. He must have given her the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:04 PM
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Innit. Istg people online talk about dates like they're one of those stage managed engagement type things. It's like you said, you go out, eat or something, or you do something else one of you suggested, or you just chill. I've lived in my city for quite a long time and know the spots I like, if someone asks me out I do like to say sure where do you want to go, because it shows interest and because it also tells me something about them as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:55 PM
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Why do you need to know? That sort of information is normally private.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:52 PM
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They're telling you the base minimum because they assume you've haven't mastered that yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:51 PM
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You're assuming that women tell you everything they know and think. It's a little weird to me, to assume people don't have an inner life beyond you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:50 PM
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Some people are good at some things, some are not. If you notice women "falling" for this, that just sounds like you're in odious circles where a lot of toxic behaviour happens, and now you're trying to tell us the wisdom you've observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:45 PM
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I didn't label anyone, so I don't know why you think it's some sort of slam dunk is a mystery to me. If you want to test your theory, prove it. Sexless pathetic men being held back by women not being forced into marrying them isn't something I'm going to play a violin for. They're not owed a woman for existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:31 PM
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Whose labelled him specifically a nazi? His main issue are his audience of men who can only imagine getting attention for themselves by inciting violence. Not heard Peterson say anything Nazi like or heard anyone call him that mind. I enjoyed the Big Joel video about his book though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:06 PM
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I mean, putting effort into specific connections, with people with the most promise, or however else a person may choose to define quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:02 AM
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Your issue with her seems to be she's Brazilian? If you don't trust her, end it and let her find someone who can build that connection with her, and you the same. Otherwise you need to let go of the past, with whatever techniques you like to do for such times.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:09 AM
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Absolutely not. Asking out lots of people because you are on it and you connect with lots of people is fine. Being a beggy little weasel is so unattractive though. Urgh, gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:05 AM
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I think it's cool they showed a woman being the harasser and the man the victim, could be a good thing for someone to in a training session.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:01 AM
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Yeah I get that actually. My advice would be to try it anyway, focusing your energy on quality is always a good thing to try when soul-crushing grinding isn't working, on anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:55 AM
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Your view is simply a collection of archetypes with no real theory. You know when women say "the reason guys don't like me is they're intimidated by how beautiful and successful I am", this post just seems like a flipped version of that. Women don't hate men with options. They are scared of violent or rejected men. And they dislike men who are cruel, malicious or nasty. If you hate women so much then just leave us alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:53 AM
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I shagged around a lot when I was younger and now single in my 30s. Occasionally I do feel a bit lonely and wish I was in a relationship. However, I do not regret my choices. Settling down at that age wasn't for me, and I've been in lacklustre relationships and they are horrible through and through, whereas single life is basically great with the odd twinge of needing more human contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:46 AM
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Personally I do make the first move on guys, as do my friends, perhaps not at the rate of men, but perhaps men should hit on people less and put more effort into quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:43 AM
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So it seems we are both from the UK. The resources I'm talking about are very commonplace across the UK, obviously I don't know what's going on in your specific area mind. I think mentioning Guides is a bit of a strange comparison since Scouts exist. And Women's Institute was originally a side along organisation to a labour union which later was about organising women's labour. It's certainly a strong network which benefits women, and I would argue society, but I think the best comparison would …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:37 PM
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You're saying women aren't judged on the type of men they date. I'm saying it's common intelligence philosophy to believe women date for social cache. Why would a woman date for social cache if she wasn't judged on who she dated? There just wouldn't be the social mechanism to make that happen at the gendered level.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:16 PM
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I don't think it's as black and white as that at all. There's so much more support for men in certain areas e.g. suicide support and loneliness support. Round here all the tool shed type schemes are men only so they can discuss mental health, but there's no tool shed provision for women. Men get SO much praise in the media. Men get congratulated for looking after their own kids, or not leaving their wife who has cancer, or any other doing the bare minimum type stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:14 PM
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I disagree with your diagnosis. The rapier carrying classes in early modern England were largely middle and upper middle class. I don't see any evidence to suggest that a middle class value set decreases violence, and I think it would be very hard to demonstrate either, as a rise of the middle classes would be due to an increase in living standards, which would likely decrease violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:11 PM
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Well that just sounds like Chicago ought to do something about that. A murder is too much. Jake Davison murdered five people, with a gun, in an area with very little gun violence. That is a material increase of murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:08 PM
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Don't incels believe women only go for high value men though, and partly for social status?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:05 PM
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That's something that's really hard to demonstrate I think, especially if you want to use quantitative analysis, as you're at risk of just isolating micro statistical trends and trying to draw huge conclusions from it. I definitely think the way dating is operating has changed massively, but I think "turning point" type analysis feels arbitrary in most instances. Rather, it's the accumulation of changes in society, technology and labour (amongst other things).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:03 PM
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Isn't this head canon applied for all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:45 PM
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Pretty loaded question, didnt you yourself have an issue with loaded questions? Overall I guess growing older, simply due to the loss of freedom that comes with it. I have no issue with a man with options, in fact, I greatly prefer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:43 PM
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The most likely option seems to be you got older. It's harder to socialise as you get older. You become less good looking. (Yes, including men).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:39 PM
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I think it would tell men to stop focusing on individual features e.g. chin. Unless you are some sort of extreme outlier, it's about the balance. The way it all comes together. The way a man holds himself, and moves around a room, how he smells, the eye contact. Of course physical features are a part of that, but only towards a wider picture. The hair, the clothes ,etc, don't need to be fancy, but they can create impact and style and convey personality and thought. Exception to this rule is hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 03:41 PM
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You're trying very hard to be cynical, but I'm not sure that's a guarantee for unearthing truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 03:34 PM
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I prefer to not be perceived. I like to do something well, I suppose there's an implicit element of comparison there, but a direct comparison isn't for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 03:16 PM
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I haven't seen her post that, is that a verbatim quote or are you surmising the post you linked?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 03:15 PM
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She asked a couple questions. Not sure how the tyre conversation went, but overall I think people doing each other favours like that is pretty normal. If you didn't want to do it that's fine, just don't think it was weird she asked (although not sure if she actually did ask or was just asking advice). And I think her asking if you're sleeping with someone else is also fine. She's trying to figure out what the situation is. That was your point to say "I don't want a monogamous relationship" or wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 03:13 PM
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I don't think it's as widely spread as your post would suggest, although I would also think that this is something that would be more prevalent in some areas than others. Only Fans is sex work, most women are not sex workers. I'm unaware of any research on the impact on dating sex work has had, so I would be really interested to read any if anyone does.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 03:08 PM
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OK that post is specifically saying "men who shame women for doing thing, do you also do thing". That seems like a reasonable question for this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 03:04 PM
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Which posts are you talking about? I can only see half a dozen posts from OP, and none of them have inflammatory titles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:26 PM
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• madonna/whore is originally from history of art and symbolic representations of women especially in regard to classical Western fine art. Applications to modern day populist sexual politics is an afterthought, of life imitating art if you will. • at some point it's transitioned into how some people describe some men's behaviour, I haven't seen any writing on this transition however. • both the madonna/whore and the alpha fucks/betabux dichotomy are concepts that have originated from male space…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:24 PM
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If you have problems attracting women, but refuse to talk to women or take their advice, then I really hope that works out well. Doesn't really affect me if a man has too much pride on that. I try and take men's advice on board to some degree; don't be fat, don't complain, balance between needy and game playing etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:13 PM
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What does that have to do with personal attacks?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:10 PM
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OK, so you shouldn't shame women then about it. Honestly, just doesn't make sense to me. Women get criticised all the time for their preferences. Why not just say people shouldn't be. Especially since its got nothing to do with the post. Did you read "men have been harassing me" and you decided to make it about yourself and your random generalisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:05 PM
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How do you react when a girl recommends a JP lecture to you? Well, it's never happened before. I guess I'd ask her if her plans cancelled or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:03 PM
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I dont want to be compared to anyone, about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:02 PM
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What if its a woman's preference to shame men's preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:01 PM
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No, nor do my friends, who are objectively good looking tbh. We've all had the odd guy admit feelings, but I'm certainly not inundated at the supermarket. For reference I'm English and I think there's less of a culture of that sort of thing. I had a guy start chatting me up in the supermarket once and I was so surprised and disturbed because it just doesn't normally happen here. I feel like guys on here say all women have this and if a woman says she doesn't then she's deemed to be ugly and ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 01:58 PM
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"Enjoy the decline" just isn't compatible with how they claim to be the groups who are most considerate of men's issues such as mental health etc. Either you want to build solidarity to improve conditions for all, or you live life as some kind of modern rake, but I think trying to straddle both is ideologically muddled.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:54 PM
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But when they settle down they want a woman whose not slept with many others, unlike him. Whereas his appropriate match would be a woman who had been snagging around herself and got older too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:49 PM
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Nice is giving someone a biscuit. It isn't a sociological category.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:45 PM
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There is no way an "experiment" like this would pass ethical clearance. This is social media junk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:27 AM
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Bless you cookie my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:26 AM
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Aight, I wish all degenerates the very best in the coming business year.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:25 AM
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Yes i so agree about volunteering! I spent two years volunteering two days a week (did long shifts so had more days off) and it was so rewarding. I got so much from it, obviously doing good but also learnt a ton, met a bunch of cool people and developed confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:25 AM
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This just isn't how women work at all. I know you think it's some gotcha but it isn't. I don't refute these things because I'm embarrassed they're true. I'm refuting them because they're false. Its not logically consistent either. You're saying women want intimacy which is unrealistic, but men should want sex and that's realistic, so women will invent fights over nothing but also some things and then leave. It just seems very confused to me. Honest question, have you cohabitated with a partner b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:51 PM
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Because a proper degenerate will want things that are harmful to others. That's what I'm saying. Me trying to send out good vibes anonymously online isn't trying to signal anything. I just thought maybe that would be useful for someone. If it wasn't useful for you, then I don't know why it would get your knickers twisted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:47 PM
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Because feminism posits that women are ONE social group. That is a specifically second wave feminist line of thought, 'fourth' wave and intersectional feminism has moved away from that idea. But either way I think saying that because some women feel solidarity with other women means that women are not allowed to be thought of as being as diverse as men are, just doesn't compute for me I'm afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:01 PM
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You're trying to map out women's sexuality using male cartography and getting lost. What that commenter was saying was ideas for rekindling intimacy. That is excellent advice. Women sleep with men constantly on the first date, in the club toilet, the car and so on, without any form of commitment whatsoever. So because some women enjoy casual sex some of the time, all women should be sexually available all of the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:56 PM
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Would you say that there is no male solidarity then? That it's the imperative of each man to take what he can at the expense of a world that is amenable to other men? Trying to ask this in a non loaded way, genuinely interested to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:52 PM
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Having the widest selection doesn't raise the quality of those individual options. Finding a relationship is just as hard for women. Finding sex is just as hard for women. Whether or not that difference is due to standards is surely a factor, but that doesn't diminish the struggle. I agree women have the safety net of other women, and I hope men can do that more for other men. I know the guys in my friendship group started a WhatsApp group. Small things like that can add up. Ghosting sucks. Ghos…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:04 PM
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In times left there were less leftover males because of war. If and when space travel establishes a lot of them will go off there I think. What do you think happens to leftover women? And why do you think they have less of a possible impact on society?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:54 PM
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Women building support networks for each other shouldn't undermine your ability to empathise with their struggles. I am totally anti-pill. But I genuinely care about men and their needs, and hope they everyone here finds what they're looking for (other than the proper degenerates). It seems really sad that you're unable to reciprocate that energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:50 PM
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You should enroll for social sciences, they love people who start with the results and come up with the theories that fit them. That's called a hypothesis. But I agree with what you're saying. I see lots of average couples living happy normal lives together all the time. Women wanting to not get married at 18 anymore isn't the end of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:47 PM
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your "view of beauty" of your own gender doesn't matter Disagree. For one I'm bisexual. I think more and more women are realising they are queer and electing to not choose relationships with men as a result. If you keep saying the average ppl are ugly you are pretty fucking biased. Everyone is biased. There are a lot of men who don't fancy most women in their country for whatever reason. How someone assess attractiveness is based on so many factors. Yes there are classic indicators of health, fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:32 PM
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Men are self conscious fairly early of their physical attractiveness Thought thinking women are like that is redpill but OK. Don't see how that differs from women but OK. 'League' is obviously a very subjective thing so it's difficult to talk about with any kind of quantifiable ideas. But your basic idea is that women are too thick to assess League, in which case it wouldn't exist at all. For it to exist it would need buy in from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:29 PM
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When you're trying to make broad, sweeping generalisations people will do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:25 PM
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That just suggests that men and women have differing views of beauty. Saying women are wrong because they don't agree with men is androcentric.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:24 PM
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Everyone is like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:23 PM
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Agreed. I think some people on this sub just haven't been in love before.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:19 PM
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It sounds like he's not just getting sex, he's getting a loving relationship and companionship just as much. Hopefully they'll be happy together.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:18 PM
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It's why they went with going instead of gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:16 PM
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You're right. I'm not advocating, or condemning, lying about your sexual partner count, but people act like you can wave a geiger counter over a woman and find it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:14 PM
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Theres a cost of living crisis, do you know how expensive overnight face cream is?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:13 PM
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It's absolutely rubbish for pure numbers. If you're intentionally dating you kins of have to ask mates if there's anyone they know who might be a good match. I don't think it's overrated though, it's given me the most amount of success for long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:37 PM
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Yeah same, maybe that's what puts me off. If i had a burgeoning volcano I'd be well sorting it before going out. Haha I guess blue lipstick is negotiable. Boots are just docs, nothing special.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:07 PM
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Hmmm good question. I suppose the aim is to not think about it too much. When I've been put off it's cus they've got pus weeping from a spot or something, which is just a major turn off. Yeah definitely don't need to be cutting edge, but they should still tell me I'm cute if I'm off for drinks with the girls wearing blue lipstick and my boots 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 11:28 AM
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Why do men get to have sub categories but women are just one category with one uniform opinion? Sex is something that the participants do together, and is good depending on how the participants viewed it. That's not an anomalous view either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 10:22 AM
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A few spots is enough for you to reject a guy? I didn't say that. There's other things, like oiliness, dry skin etc. Not necessarily things that make you not want to go out with a guy, but stuff that adds up to make him less attractive (same as women). We will have to chalk up the clothes and hair as just living in different areas. I think these things aren't going to have a drastic or immediate impact, but I think it accumulates. But I agree, not looking for a fashion victim, but a guy who can …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 10:17 AM
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This is where I really think that ideology gets it wrong. The idea that 'beta' guys are sweet and good partners, just too ugly, and 'alphas' are hot, dangerous and never want relationship. I think most men are somewhere in between. Alpha and beta are junk science anyway. But it's not that women don't get it. They just don't care. Single life is much better than being in a so so relationship, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 10:05 AM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:34 AM
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Whilst I wouldn't say hookup culture is degenerate, I agree with the rest. I never just go sit in a bar waiting for a man to hit on me. Maybe that would benefit some men, but it doesn't appeal. It honestly sounds boring. And also I don't think it's something women really do much in my country anyway. Overall my favourite way is to meet someone through friends, or at an event you're both attending.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:27 AM
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Nah, they just don't want a boring man. What is boring does vary massively depending on interests and temperament of the person judging it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:16 AM
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https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/apr/29/prehistoric-women-were-hunters-and-artists-not-just-mothers-book-reveals I'm hoping to read this book at some point. I wanted to share another link but the link is now broken... anyway there is some other stuff out there too. Definitely not my area of specialism, but definitely something that caught my eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:10 AM
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I have my first date in six months tonight. Had to spend the past few months moving house and changing job and just not had the time, will or energy. Kind of nervous so I ended up buying a new dress for it 😬 Anyway I wish everyone a pleasant weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:58 AM
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What happened to the warrior gene? Or the desire to hunt? How many men can build a fire without a lighter? The answer is primitive societies were nowhere near as gendered as the manosphere would have you believe. Those women hunted, fought, gathered, thought etc. Just often with a baby attached. I have got some sources on this if anyones interested, just may take me a bit to dig them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:57 AM
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they don't see the new man as lesser, its just in there eyes their priorities changed as they got older, they see nothing wrong with fucking around when they are younger and settling down with they got older And why shouldn't they? If men don't like it they can lump it really. If there's a worry about lots of men not finding girlfriends, but it's cus they won't date women who've shagged around, why is that a problem for women? I've shagged around, now a bit older and quietly dating with intentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:55 AM
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Sorry this is delusional. Spots aren't the only reason to use skincare, although I disagree about It's very average for a guy in his 20s or older to have clear skin. Average for them to have clear-ish skin. Most have a few spots. But again that is a specific area of skincare. Style is definitely very important for me. Not necessarily an ostentatious style, but a man who can pick out some nicely fitted clothes just levels up hard. Not necessarily for all women, but definitely in my specific style…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:52 AM
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Men who are thoughtful towards women they don't want to fuck and aren't related to. Men who are good at daft playing with kids. Men who remember the little things. And ngl men who laugh at my dumbarse jokes are angels.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:47 AM
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Is that hypocrisy? I think that's something a lot of single people experience, where you're fine with being single and enjoy a lot of aspects of it, but you like to date sometimes but sometimes get burnt out with it. Seems just like a normal human experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:40 AM
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If the essence of everyone is the same, then there is no essence, and what you called the superficial is actually as deep as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:59 AM
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Absolutely agree with this. A guy whose financially responsible is quite attractive to me, rather than the salary. A guy who drops money on flashy depreciating assets isn't, even if his salary was higher than the first.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:58 AM
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What does growing/not growing have to do with it? Isn't it just a retort to when men call makeup lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:56 AM
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Usually would want to have some cuddles and slowly go from there, unless it's a not in the mood in a bleurgh kind of way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:52 AM
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I don't get it. Was Super Sophie sat in a bar thinking about a guy she fancied? But she should be thinking about Average Adam? Do they know each other? And what does a bar in hell mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:50 AM
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You've written all that but it comes down to there being 4 billion women with many different opinions, desires and needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:46 AM
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Thats fine with me. I doubt I'd even notice unless they were cool platforms or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:45 AM
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Women are criticised all the time for that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:44 AM
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Most people have the same personality Is this your first day? Personalities vary wildly. Loud/quiet. Ambitious/laidback. Big picture/fine detail. Listener/encourager. Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:43 AM
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I think working on your own self development is key for everyone really, either it'll serve you well as a single person or prepare you to be a good partner for someone you'd want to be with. I think wanting to find someone you actually connect with on that level is way more important than ticking a box of traits. Sure, I'd like a best friend who I bonk in a relationship, but I think that's pretty common amongst all genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:39 AM
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So you haven't dated a man, and more specifically you haven't dated a man as a woman, since you yourself have chosen to make that distinction. No I have not dated women as a man, but I have dated women. Do you really think only men's view of the world is valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:49 PM
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Glad to hear it, and congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:34 PM
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So what would you know what dating men is like?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:33 PM
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My house is about 140 years old when there were a lot of women working industry in my city, maybe not as builders but in factories, charwomen, etc. Shit that makes the world go round. The working class isn't only men, and it never has been. Construction isn't the only worthy thing to do. Drawing such a tight boundary around a topic to stifle debate doesn't make your argument seem good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:32 PM
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If kind and hot is too much to expect then I'll happily stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:28 PM
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OK at the start, but we are talking about established relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:33 PM
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With their partner? No I've never heard a woman say "I don't want to shag Brian tonight. He is too different".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:21 PM
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What makes one a positive reaction and the other negative though? I think they're both valid reactions. Someone is entitled to become less attracted to their partner if they put on weight. But a person is also entitled to lose some love for their partner when they realise their partners love is more conditional than they had hoped. I don't think either is wrong. But overall citing statistics from tiktoks is ridiculous, find an actual paper if you're gonna drop Statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:20 PM
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I don't think I've ever seen anyone have a partner say they were too wholesome to fuck, regardless of gender. Yes I've had plenty of men who I don't see sexually. But once you're going out that's kind of weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:17 PM
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Is there not a middle ground between pompous arsehole and meek?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:15 PM
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Do you date men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:13 PM
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What, women need to learn ballet first, or support ballet first? Either way, when you want to see something in the world you need to make the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:13 PM
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For sure, definitely some interesting trends that will need to be analysed, but I would like to hold my horse before jumping to conclusions. Imo people spending more time in digital spaces just inhibits social interaction, and also means some people are getting to adulthood with less developed social skills. But that's my hunch, not backed up. Will need to do some digging on this at some point when I get some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:12 PM
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How? I would like someone who wants kids, but doesn't have them yet. Most people my age that I know don't have kids. So it isn't a problem for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:10 PM
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I think you're underestimating the amount of infrastructure work done by women. Not all of it is necessarily asset management. Also women provide a lot towards society, like childbearing, childrearing, care responsibilities etc. Saying men don't need women at all on a societal level doesn't really make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:08 PM
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Women talk about their independence a lot because a lot of people talk about how they need a man all the time. When you're doubted you assert yourself. The reason you don't mention lottery or sports is because no one has ever given a shit about these things. I think your wider points about people forgoing relationships for drugs or porn is the sort of thing I'd be interested in reading some research and theory into. It's difficult to demonstrate causation for that sort of thing though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:06 PM
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For sure, definitely not into playing games or any of that shite. Trying to just keep an approach of if I get a message I'll reply when I'm at a natural pause e.g. sat down with a cuppa, instead of dropping what I'm doing to reply, that kind of energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:16 PM
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Why would anyone give asspats for that? If you wanted to have sex and had it, then the sex is the reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:06 PM
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I wanted someone I could shower with love and sacrifice for, and someone I could be totally honest with and not need to hide anything, If you hide that part of you, you'll never find a woman who also wants that. That's what people mean by "be yourself". I do know what you mean cus I find with guys if you do play a little hard to get they are more interested, obviously guys on reddit will say you should never do that and they all hate it. But if you act how reddit guys say guys like you'd never g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:35 PM
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Looks like instead of death, I found actual love and loyalty. Look, we clearly have very different politics and philosophies. But I am genuine when I say this is actually kind of concerning. I'm glad you found someone you connect with, but please consider either individual or couple therapy before marriage so that it has the strongest possible foundation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:28 PM
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Red flags for me; right-wing, alcoholic, has kids, is child free, indecisive, emotionally lazy, doesn't have friends, hasn't had a LTR, doesn't get on with my friends, no craic. Non serious red flags; car enthusiast, golfer, rock climber (I would date a rock climber again but istg they are all off their rocker) Common red flags I don't care too much about; doesn't need to be super tall or rich. I have my own money and I'm 5'2". I prefer career direction to pure assets because the latter is somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:05 PM
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He needs to be eight foot tall, with minimum twelve fingers. My favourite position is reverse cowgirl on the stairs ☺ and for words I am an old fashioned girl, ideally they'd just recite their companies GDPR policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:52 AM
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Yes, very much so. I wouldn't be able to build a life with someone with whom I didn't have anything in common. It's nice to have some things in common, some different, and some that you get into because your partner introduced you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:48 AM
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I'd have thought Skinny fat was the body type that would benefit the most from hitting the gym. I don't think there's any one method for looksmaxxing, it usually takes a few methods together. I think if anyone has hair like you described I would definitely recommend shaving it off. A confidently bald man is hotter to me than a balding man if I am honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:45 AM
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Start going to the ballet, and supporting ballet if you think it's so important then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:58 AM
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Nah. Women want men who are able to understand the difference between being attentive and being clingy. That's husband material. Overall I think women are more likely to date down when it comes to looks. But I haven't seen any data on this either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:57 AM
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Why haven't they written a successful dating/sexual strategy, which would attract inc3ls to a less toxic camp? A misogynist isn't going to listen to a woman. It would be a waste of my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:55 AM
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You have tons of women online who belong to these communities who claim that men only go for "conventionally attractive" women while apparently ignoring and being rude towards women who aren't conventionally attractive. I think the criticism is usually about how these preferences are communicated, and is also something I see men talk about a lot online. Women aren't a monolith either. Different women have difference experiences and opinions. That's a feature, not a flaw. If average men's standar…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:31 AM
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The best a guy can do is use bb cream, eyebrow gel, clear mascara on lower lashes, tiny amount of blush, tinted lip balm and concealer on lower eyelid That's... not no make up though is it. I wear less then that if I'm going into the office.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:53 AM
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I don't think the issue is really with men having a preference, it's just that they talk about it all the bloody time online and it's very boring. I've talked with my friends loads about dating and relationships etc (who hasn't), and I don't think I remember anyone talking about this before. It's not on our radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:48 AM
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Be consistent and clear with your intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:40 AM
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Nah, men get their boots licked for doing the bare fucking minimum, and sometimes not even that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:38 AM
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A foetus is not a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:36 AM
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That's a problem with that legal system. Penalising self induced abortions is more dangerous. But that certainly doesn't mean that male partners should be imprisoned. It just shows that abortion is a human right. I'll never understand why men don't think abortion benefits them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:36 AM
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Bell jar theory doesn't really map onto what I was saying at all. Under a market force interpretation of sexual politics its not about there being a fixed spectrum of attractiveness, more that that value is constantly fluctuating according to market forces I.e. how women perceive you day to day. I don't think anyone, in the real world anyway, goes around and says "he looks below average". No, they'd say he's not a looker. There's no mathematical reason why that couldn't apply to a majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:40 PM
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So what are men's choices based on if not looks as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:34 PM
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I think the past is just too vague to make any accurate statements about what it was like regarding marriage one way or the other. There's been many different cultures over human history, with many different courting cultures. Unfortunately a lot isn't known about the experiences and thoughts of young women throughout a lot of time (more for young men but still not enough).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:33 PM
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If you're applying market forces to gender politics, then the attractiveness assessment of men by women is the only thing that counts when looking at straight relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:26 PM
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I think this is pretty true. Now I'm in my 30s the idea of going out with a virgin doesn't hold too much appeal because we would be in very different life stages. Whereas in my early 20s it wouldn't have been a problem. So it isn't as much a value judgement on virginity, more a compatibility issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:21 PM
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Do beavers burst through dams? Surely that would make your dick not very good at being a beaver.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 06:40 PM
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So if you're fucking a woman does that mean you're the passive one cus your dick is being chewed by an angry beaver?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 06:32 PM
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If that's what men here mean by bad boy then they're even more delusional than I thought. A career criminal isn't appealing to most women, yes they have their admirer, but it's a slim minority. You've created a composite woman from this and that. You're also assuming that any guy who is shy around women is some kind of nicer guy. Besides, why do you think a criminal couldn't be shy around women? Or a shy guy couldn't be violent?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 06:29 PM
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Good sex is something that all the participants work on together, its not something you do to someone. Two virgins could have the most awkward, accidentally elbowing each other type sex and it still be good because they enjoyed it. Two people who've had a lot of sex (but don't have a vested interest in each others pleasure or are pornsick or whatever) could have bad sex. Obviously with experience comes a certain... technical ability. But that is only one part of it. Creativity, empathy and commu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:55 PM
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Well I don't think it's a choice between upper middle class or every bad boy you know being in a criminal gang? That's not what it's like here anyway. I think the factors that pull immigrants into crime is an interesting topic but it's way beyond the scope of this thread. Question for you when you see a sexless man in his 20s what do you see then ? I don't ask every man I meet if he's getting any or not. My opinion on an individual guy in his 20s not having sex would be totally neutral, same as …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:49 PM
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The concept of 'dating down' only works if you're applying market theory to dating. Therefore market forces would dictate someone's 'level' through brute supply/demand. Therefore he wouldn't be lowering himself, he'd be being honest about his actual value. Personally I don't go in for all of that, but it seems more logically consistent to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:05 PM
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It is the same reaction a girl gets when a guy is too short, or too weak, or too feminine or has a gay past. I think you've disproved yourself here immediately. Ime short king bisexual dudes do very well for themselves. Genuine question, is the fear of a woman whose slept with others gay panic? The way guys who describe it seem to fear that aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:01 PM
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Yup, and they seem to think that science means no one can ever criticise a scientific paper, or that's nitpicking. 'Science' doesn't mean a paper will be perfectly balanced, no bias or research issues. Science is literally the process of people nitpicking each other to truth. They call it 'peer review'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:54 AM
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That second one is literally saying that attraction is based on physicality. If you're going to cite a source it should back up what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:17 AM
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Not really, I was talking about what women want, and when the majority of people, regardless of gender, say they want a relationship, the healthy part is implied. That's not moving the goalposts, that's a referee telling a player that they can't have a shit on the playing field, even if it wasn't explicitly stated in the rulebook. Of course what a healthy relationship looks like varies person to person, but Andrew Tate would not meet that by the widest array of people of all politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:15 AM
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Thanks for recognising that women have it a lot harder then men 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:38 AM
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I'm not talking general advice, more specific advice when you see lonely guys who don't know women and fill in the gaps with second hand misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:22 AM
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You can't convince someone that you know their inner life better then them. A fit man is a fit man, doesn't mean he's worthy of a fuck but that doesn't mean you're not attracted. Men on here love to act so offended at women liking "bad boys" by which they mean "guys in bands" or similar. Struggling artist type is a vibe a lot of women like. If women only like you for your money that's cus you choose shit women and you bring nothing to the table than money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:18 PM
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Yup, thats why I nuke my accounts periodically. Sorry that's happened to you, its happened to me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:15 PM
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As I commented, I'm talking specifically about the men I see in my area on OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:07 PM
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Yeah, women tend to prefer to have idle chit chat conversations with their friends than with strangers imo. And I don't think there's anything wrong with the latter, clearly. I don't think reddit is very women friendly though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:43 PM
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I'm just reporting back what I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:41 PM
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Sorry, mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:38 PM
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Maybe the low hanging fruit you like to prune is like that. But a lot of women have hobbies like knitting where you just do it when you're in the mood, but if someone asked you to do something you might do that instead. Which is not the same if you checks notes go to the car mechanic little league.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:08 PM
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In terms of dating success? some of these will apply to women too. OLD • sticking out tongue • dirty mirror selfie • no bio or weirdly brief (a lot of guys in my area just have 'now then') • multiples of same photo, screenshot etc • bio about having shit mental health and not much to offer (crazy common) • negativity • awkward angle of their face • only low quality selfies of them sat on the sofa. I've even seen one and they were on the loo. • bad talks their ex. Not on your tinder bio jfc Gener…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:06 PM
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Yeah that's not really against what I was saying. Those traits exist because they work, being a cunt can be a reproductively successful strategy. Like those cuttlefish that pretend to be female. But overall I don't think it's a good idea for women to interact with those men. They're dangerous and actually quite boring to spend time with imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:59 PM
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Yeah I have to say I can't help but sneer at red pill women. Like at least FDS is pro woman. TRP is for men that is the literal point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:54 PM
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I don't believe in the prize thing, either way. I don't want to be a prize, or to win a prize. I want a mutually beneficial relationship with another person, and if I can't then I'd want to be alone. But you're right. The quality of men is fucked. It's a shame cus most could be doing much better, but they've never had someone tell them what they're doing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:49 PM
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Women are honest about this stuff with other women, but there's no point in talking about it with men online for most of them. For one, most women don't use sites like reddit. And the other is most prefer talking to other women. Personally I expect a man to make ok money, be good looking and social, because I am those things as well. Women get told they're shallow for wanting to marry good looking men not in debt lmao. Nowt shallow about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:47 PM
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You're undesirable to men that if you had any self respect you would not date anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:44 PM
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Straight and bisexual women are definitely attracted to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:43 PM
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I guess that person is saying men's work and diets make them age badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:42 PM
3

So a man would be a woman's sidepiece?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:38 PM
1

Andrew Tate couldn't get into a healthy relationship though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:52 PM
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No because sidepiece implies an inequality. Where two people are in a mutually beneficial relationship, with other interests neither is a side piece. Saying that, I think you've gone too far. Personally I don't want to come second to fucking boxing class or whatever, just that they have their own life too. Just a normal healthy relationship. Don't need to throw buzzwords like sidepiece in especially when it doesn't even fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:51 PM
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I think guys offer to pay when they are looking to start a relationship, so it has significance on that. Normally on dates I'd split, or do rounds etc. I can pay my own way but sure its kind of eye-catching.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:47 PM
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Some of the issues I've always had with FDS is I am pro sex worker and don't expect men to pay for things or to attempt a relationship by not sleeping with them too soon. I think TRP and FDS have very similar mindsets though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:42 PM
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Because dark triad traits are more common amongst men and a lot of women are ill equipped to detect them. As for why someone would reproduce with someone someone mistreats them, well that sounds like someone whose being abused. Abuse is a tactic some people choose to employ to reproduce as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:41 PM
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Did you see the thread title? That would be a man saying it. Completely disagree though. A relationship with a man is way too high a cost for a free meal. Idk what circles you roll in but all the women I know are flying high tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:36 PM
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Are you religious or something? Fucking is nice, and if a baby rips through the contraception so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:32 PM
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I think you need to find a word that isn't sidepiece for this. Women wanting fully rounded partners isn't the same as wanting to be a side piece, unless that was just clickbait to make the most MOR kind of point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:28 PM
1

I think we have different understandings of what the word acceptance means.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:02 PM
1

I don't think theres anything cuck about stoicism. It's about developing the inner strength needed to cope with life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:40 PM
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And I think on top of that living life with intent is attractive, no matter what gender you are. I don't want a relationship with a slacker because I find intentionality attractive, but it doesn't mean I have some specific career a man needs to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:38 PM
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It really is about changing what you can't accept, and accepting what you can't change. Life isn't fair. That's not like a good thing. But for some people it's comforting to remind themselves of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:26 PM
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I agree. It's Gisele. The moment she wanted to date someone else she could. Women like that have no need to be devious like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:24 PM
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I agree, the pre kids DINK life benefits everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:22 PM
2

Because partner covers all bases, and is especially useful for places like the Internet or workplace where they may wish to have more privacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:21 PM
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A lot of people are like that. Not more women than men. Saying some random generalisation and then CMV isn't really conducive to any kind of debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:20 PM
2

Whose Aba?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:15 PM
1

I guess they mean people with full time jobs can't. If you need to burn off 1000 extra calories a day that's too much time for the average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:14 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:12 PM
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I agree. Any guy who doesn't like women shouldn't be in a relationship. They can all visit some Chad sex worker who pumps them all for money and leave women be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:29 PM
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How will you feel when those market forces mean sex workers raise their prices? Market forces don't apply to sexual politics. Those dynamics just don't map onto one another. Sure, there is some basic stuff like supply and demand, but a few ingredients in common doesn't mean it's the same dish.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:29 PM
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I don't think men are more interested in sex. I think most of my friends have had some kind of bad relationship, experienced rape or assault etc. And are therefore weary. I like an interested man but I also don't want a relationship to mean much more to one person than the other, it needs to be equal-ish
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:27 PM
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I just got back on bumble and I prefer it to tinder because there is a much higher quality of man on there, and I prefer it to hinge because I reallyyyy hate the prompts on there. Seems OK for me, have got a date from it which seems promising. I definitely make sure I only match with people I would message, and then if its a match try and message straight away. I definitely miss a couple though. I also like bumble having a 'ask me about..' when you message someone. Good icebreaker without resort…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:25 PM
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It may not have an apparent effect on attraction but you would be less attracted to a woman with hair that looked frizzy and that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:20 PM
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It's just so untrue. Men on here will say women spend so much on beauty treatments, but also that they don't try. Which is it??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:19 PM
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Your answer is not consistent. Women in the West don't need men, so if they're going to be in a relationship it needs to be with someone whose bringing something that's essentially companionship. sooner or later there will be an epidemic of men not wanting to date just like how it's in japans and why shouldn't there be Fine. Low tier men giving up on dating isn't important to me. Higher tier men who choose not to date is also not really a problem. I can be with another woman or choose to be sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:17 PM
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You feel gaslighted by this? This is just celebrity gossip. How dull. I'm genuinely surprised anyone cares about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:13 PM
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That's a total cope. The last man I found insecure was totally reliant on me emotionally. I had not known him long. I had never met him. When I told him I needed more space he sulked. So I ended the friendship. Yes he had wanted more, and messaged me saying what he thought was wrong with me psychologically. I don't think there's a time I've used the word insecure when it wasn't something similar. I love men with healthy boundaries. They aren't the ones who get called insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:12 PM
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Because when men are insecure they are much more likely to be a danger to women. Its like the word creepy, its a 'here be dragon' type comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:09 PM
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I think you've misunderstood what people say about this situation, misrepresented it and then got angry at it. No one says you have to remain friends with someone. What they do say is women dont owe you sex in return for friendship. Befriending someone and acting as though the two of you are platonic friends but then it turns out you were just waiting to try and make a move is manipulative though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:07 PM
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Most women can find dates on tinder, the issue is finding someone on there that's half decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:01 AM
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Sure, but as I said, the quality of men on there is low, no matter what type of guy you're into. Sticking tongues out, uploading multiples of same photos, photos of kids etc. I've seen bios from men that say "OK what do you bring to the table", which is a fair question except your bio is the place to say what you bring to the table. Overall its just better for women to not date most of the men on there. They'll whine about not getting sex but at the end of the day I'm not gonna pity fuck some lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:00 AM
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Those are all super popular mainstream films, so i don't think you need to worry about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:58 AM
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I disagree. More and more women are choosing not to have children, and if they do you must remember that dick is abundant and that includes sperms. Its definitely harder for lesbian couples but none of those reasons make a man necessary at all. BBL and things like that are vanishingly rare. I don't know how much time you've spend with women in real life, but the cost of things like make up is nothing compared to the cost of being in a relationship, unless that man is incredibly generous. Women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:55 AM
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Yeah I agree with that. Although I do think good sex has other things going on too. Connection, communication, enthusiasm, compatibility, intimacy etc. Those things can't be dismissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:38 PM
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The key word there is reward. Women don't reward hotter men with better sex, they're just more likely to reach orgasm when their partner is hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:11 PM
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I think he's trying to intellectualise his loneliness, which isn't necessarily wrong to do, but at the expense of putting the effort into forging mutually beneficial relationships. So he has to tell himself they don't exist otherwise it could disrupt his sense of self.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:41 PM
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Well yeah, exactly. The idea women aren't visual is a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:40 PM
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It just seems weird to list hot as a thing women are into as though men aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:39 PM
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The first one is a brief article and doesn't contain the actual paper. The second one says the biggest factor for a woman's orgasm is how good looking the guy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:34 PM
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No, definitely not magically. You have to build the life you want, one day at a time, and there isn't a shortcut to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:13 PM
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There just aren't the levels of guys at that level on tinder, so we have to presume that a lot of these are average ish guys. Most average guys could be doing a lot better. For some reason trp adjacent guys think women have no worthwhile knowledge for how guys could get laid more. And I feel bad for them, the main reason I come on here is in case there's any lonely misguided guys who could do with a different kind of advice. Idk, at the end of the day modern dating is rubbish, perhaps some peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:12 PM
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Ah OK, thanks for clarifying. Fwiw I think the blackpill is horrible simply because I think it must be a very horrible ideology for it's adherents to live. I am genuinely wishing you the very best in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:08 PM
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I actually don't disagree with that, although I think one woman's 'ideal' man is another's nightmare. Those ideal men of the women I know tend to have qualities that Internet men think women lie about being into.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:07 PM
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Well presumably most men can as well, or else who are these women going on dates with (other than other ladies). Unless you're actually telling me all you know are betas, women and the odd Chad with a harem?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:05 PM
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I really doubt polygamy is going to be quickly enshrined in law, at least where I live. You've not responded to the other point. You've completely forgotten rule that dick is abundant and has no value. The real MVPs in poly dating are bisexual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:32 PM
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I don't disagree, I'm using the lingua franca of the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:30 PM
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Nah disagree. This is the case for most women on dating apps these days. There is just an abundance of lower quality men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:57 PM
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Do they? According to red pill, I myself am failing at life. Early 30s and single for a while. In the past few years I've dated a few people. But for me it just isn't like that. I've got a great flat, a great job, amazing friends and hobbies. I could get sex if I wanted it. If I meet someone I could settle down with, I would. But I just don't want to settle for a relationship that my heart isn't. According to trp that makes me some kinda pathetic roastie who can't get a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:55 PM
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You don't even know the difference between polygamy and polyamory. And I don't think browsing TikTok counts as an organic source, for one its algorithm quickly updates for the user depending on what they've seen. Basically you dug yourself a little echo chamber on TikTok and count that as a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:24 PM
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You're talking out your arse and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:22 PM
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But muscular men aren't considered attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:21 PM
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All women eh? Got a stat for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:07 PM
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people who are tall, attractive and fit lean right wing. Is there a specific study you're referring to? I know this is a topic that a lot of rightwingers strongly believe but I've never seen any quality research suggesting as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:06 PM
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The tinder sub shows just how terrible it is as an app. Men dropping weird af lines at women and expecting a blozza out of it. Nothing in there to prove me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:01 PM
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Ah, apologies. I meant European countries with socially progressive cultures, and in the urban areas, but that's definitely only a small part of Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:55 AM
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Isn't redpill the ultimate game though? I think women who do that shit want to attract redpill men. Whereas women who like sex tend to prefer feminist leftist men, which is why those men tend to do better with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:53 AM
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The waiting three months thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:52 AM
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Just like every man on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:51 AM
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Your information is completely out of date. Tinder 6 years ago was way different.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:50 AM
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Did you read the post? She said this woman gets attention but from no one with good chat. No one wants to marry, let alone shag without some patter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:49 AM
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Yeah I'm also from the UK. I've had the odd meal bought for me over the years on a first date, where I accepted because I wasn't expecting it and was too flustered to say no. Honestly all the women I know are the same as well. It's just the standard here. However I will cede that I've been bought many pints over the years, although i have also bought many pints for men. Think that's normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:47 AM
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So women are only allowed to answer questions men give if they answer to confirm a man's wild prejudice?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:44 AM
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Bills? What like, my electricity bill? No I pay that myself. Never even heard of someone talking that over. If you mean for meals out, I usually split them and when you settle in together opt for more taking turns. Sounds like your dating strategies aren't serving you, you need to change them up so you're more attractive to self reliant women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:43 AM
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I think for a lot of redpilled men, they want women who've had a lot of sexhal partners to be unhappy when older. Unfortunately for them it doesn't work like that. They get told by other men that men age like wine, they'll end up with a virgin wife 10 years younger if they make enough money and have frame or whatever, and that woman they fancied who never liked them but snagged around will end up alone. Its the definition of cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:42 AM
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Maybe in whatever bumfuck town in middle of nowhere America you're from it is. European cities are completely different for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:40 AM
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OK, well I would assume she's looking to date with intent and wants to put off fuckbois.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:36 AM
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The conventional wisdom is if a woman does that she really likes a man. Not me personally, but I just don't respect men enough to try that kinda coy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:34 AM
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Yeah I just don't see that happening in the real world. Maybe try actually connecting with women as humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:33 AM
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Most women want sex and resources which is why the average red pilled man has nothing to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:31 AM
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Why ask the question if you think you know the answer then? What she is thinking when she writes that is just not something you'll ever be able to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:31 AM
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This just seems like like Internet borne opinion. In the real world you just don't know this about new partner. It's an imagined problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:55 AM
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If she's not fucking you then she probably doesn't want you. If you have this issue a lot then I guess a lot of women don't like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:54 AM
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Yeah, so when a woman says that she means your type of man is someone she doesn't want to talk to. She doesn't want you trying to talk sex with her on the DM. She just has no interest in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:34 AM
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Not the same, money and sex aren't the same. For one, women make their own money, and have better sex on their own or with other women. Men don't have anything left to bring to the table so there isn't an equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:32 AM
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No, the equivalent would be finding out your new boyfriend regularly munched rug on first date with his exes but not with you. Any normal woman would be like "why do I even need to know this, I dont care".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:31 AM
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It's so true. Any guy who claims to be redpilled but doesn't get this has missed the point of their own ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:29 AM
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Yeah it's cus women are constantly told to not be shallow. So they try and give a "nice guy" a chance, then realise that being less fit doesn't make a guy any nicer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:27 AM
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But , why? Why does she have to treat every man equally when it comes to sex timeliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:26 AM
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Sex is something that usually happens because two people fancy each other and decide to fuck. End of. Do you even know what a transaction is? Giving away something in exchange for something else. Two people having sex because they fancy each other, or spending time together, is the antithesis of transaction because essentially they received what they gave.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:24 AM
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Honestly, men all the time say they prefer no make up. (Obviously they usually mean they want light makeup). But either way, if a woman enjoys makeup, that's her business. Saying she cannot make her own choice because the male gaze is following her is patriarchal in of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:01 AM
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When it comes to discussing one's inner life, there is no more evidence to provide than the statement itself. I believe your statements are sub consciously to make yourself more attractive to men. That is the vibe you give. A woman who washes her face in water and sneers at women who like makeup. "Ah but actually men prefer no makeup". But honestly whatever, you live your life. Just don't think women who choose differently to you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:48 AM
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Lots of women like artistic movies or landscape photography, but you definitely need an engaging personality to discuss them interestingly. You seem quite self obsessed. I've been on dates with self obsessed men and they're boring quite frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:44 AM
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No I am not doing it for male fantasy. If I'm on a date, sure. You don't know me or my relationship to the male fantasy. You're acting very pick me tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:42 AM
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If you don't want to wear makeup then don't. Making up situations in your head isn't proof of anything. During lockdown I literally did do my own make up to sit around the house on some days.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:42 PM
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No, it wouldn't. Perhaps when their partner initiates sex it arouses them and they go for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:38 PM
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As a feminist, and as a socialist, I am pro sex worker. It is fundamentally a labour issue, albeit an area of the labour market which is stigmatised, which itself leads to worse working conditions. I have no interest in supporting sex work as some sort of empowered career, although if that's how someone feels good for them, and I certainly think there are a lot of issues within the industry and that includes abuse, rape and exploitation. I think the way to deal with that though is decriminalisat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:30 PM
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No, because libido isn't static, and consent is a choice, not a state of being. I also think the study would be better off including the widest forms of intimacy as often determining what is sex is heteronormative, which is a big problem if what you're doing is comparing sexualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:25 PM
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You don't have a lifestyle compatible with being a family man, and a lot of women find crypto guys too boring to fuck. I've dated men who took interesting risks, but I wouldn't consider anything you've mentioned to be something I'd enjoy talking about on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:27 PM
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I don't think there is some unified opinion on this. It's important to note that feminist and LGBTQ spaces overlap more and more these days. (Yes there are TERFs but that's a topic for another day). So for me when I see masculinity is pretty much just a thing queer/butch women etc discuss, usually as an aesthetic or dynamic thing. So I don't really have an opinion on masculinity as a straight male thing, because the difference there is a question ot exclusivity. When masculinity is defined its i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:22 PM
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Prove. Me. Wrong. You've not provided any evidence. You've shared a feeling and expect someone else to do the heavy lifting of evidence. Your opinion just doesn't chime with my own experience, and there's no way of evidencing that. I think that's quite a cheap and lazy way of debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:14 PM
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Lesbian women can get far better dating success that most men ever can If they do they're fighting with one hand behind their back, the numbers are much more favourable for straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:12 PM
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This is why you are seeing more modern women single and alone. You're not taking into account that a lot of those women just don't want to date men anymore, or have raised their expectations. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, if someone would prefer to be single than settle I think that's their decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:11 PM
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I can hear you're feeling really lonely etc, and I genuinely hope you can get to a better place. When you're depressed it's easy to think that others don't have their own struggles, but they do. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:05 PM
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I'm sorry you've had a tough time. Would you think is fair enough to say a man to work on himself while a woman have nothing to work on herself but set a couple of clicks and she can get a guy drooling for sex next to her door within the next 20-30 minutes ? I think this really shows you've not had much interaction with women. I think you should get used to talking to women Non sexually or romantically. Women can and do work on themselves, for a myriad of reasons, but partly because it does attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:45 AM
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Why do you assume incels are nice? The guys I've known who were virgins weren't any nicer than guys who weren't. The guys who were getting laid tended to just have better social skills, be better at holding a conversation, be more interested, be funnier. It's not gaslighting. Some men just aren't attractive and no one wants to fuck them. Some of them could get laid if they made improvements, some probably never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:39 AM
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I think you're just communicating in archetypes, it provides no insight into the psychology of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:21 AM
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OK my rebuttal is there's nothing wrong with the restaurant reviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:59 PM
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Men/women become more like roommates who have sex Seemed quite definitive and general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:35 PM
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Must be why they're always bragging on here about sleeping with women with BPD, because the sex is wild 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 06:01 PM
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I'm unaware of any benefits of relationships with red pilled men, the ideology is about making relationships "better" for men at the expense of women. I'd have thought behaviour like that makes it harder for most of them to get partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:50 PM
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He has one experience and it means it must be extrapolated to all women, in the name of science.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:46 PM
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You booty called a woman you shagged six years ago. Her finding it unmemorable isn't the weird thing here mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:45 PM
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I don't think most are. There's been a lot of discussion of what legally a charity is and should be, and not everyone agrees, but I wouldn't say that the majority are fraudulent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:44 PM
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Lmfao "the libs use restaurant reviews" are you ok love.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:42 PM
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reposted I agree, men online don't care about women's dating experiences, but expect a lot of attention about their own problems. And "female hypergamy" is a joke, as if men aren't ever looking for bigger and better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:39 PM
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Or they had a succession of short term relationships and flings that didn't pan out for a variety of mundane reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:29 PM
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Whilst I agree that there needs to be an agreement with relationship goals, I don't think couples who choose to both work and take care of other areas have less 'vision and purpose', or that they don't have passion. You can only bring here your experience with your own relationship, which sounds like it's going well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:28 PM
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I agree, men online don't care about women's dating experiences, but expect a lot of attention about their own problems. And "female hypergamy" is a joke, as if men aren't ever looking for bigger and better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:09 PM
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Yup, they want to spin plates, but also some kinda tradwife 21 year old bambi type to marry. But the former doesn't not lead to the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:07 PM
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You don't seem to understand the difference between debating and communicating. Debating is the discussion of ideas, what people are referring to when they say communication is the discussion of feelings, needs and desires along with practical considerations. You say most people are bad at debating... OK weird word choice. But I don't see how that disproves good communication being essential, it just shows it's importance if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:03 PM
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So you're saying women want men with flaws, and men want women, as long as they're hot and plural? I don't see how this is some sort of gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:59 PM
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Yes, it's plausible. But likely is another thing. In my experience, of the women I know well (for context women in their late twenties early thirties in various UK cities) they are either in a long term relationship with a man, date women, or are poly. A lot are also choosing to remain single, simply because they aren't prioritising marriage over other things they find worthwhile. I find those factors are under examined in spaces such as these, and whilst what you mentioned is possible, it's ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:22 PM
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If you stop socialising, then you will not have a social life. If you go outside you're not guaranteed anything more than a chance. There is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:05 PM
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Well, it sounds like you sext random women a lot? That sounds like the most important variable here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:53 AM
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I don't think it's changed things as much as people think. It used to be you had a lot of sweaty palmed men approaching approaching in the club or whatever, and now you have the same but with apps. Sometimes a connection emerges, most of the time it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:52 AM
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If there are less men entering relationships with women, then it stands to reason that the same amount of women will also not be entering relationships. The thing is, you're not an average man. You're a man who spends a lot of time online, talking about pills. This is self defeating behaviour, and has much more to do with your lack of relationship than tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:50 AM
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I just don't find their anything valid or reliable about this sort of approach. Either use actual statistical modelling or don't. I don't find anything you've said to reflect what I personally have experienced in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:46 AM
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I don't think a generalisation on a topic as vague as this has any merit, or interest. Men generally share my hobbies. It seems you're talking about men being better friend for you specifically, which again, is of no interest to society in general. I've never heard a woman complain about not having any male friends, in my life. I've known a couple of women say they didn't know that many men compared to women, but not really the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:43 AM
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I get that, as a bisexual woman. I meet people and then it turns out there's something in there that isn't for me. When I start to feel disheartened I take time out for dating, so that I can demonstrate the compassion and empathy towards others that I would hope to receive myself. I hope you can be kind to yourself in that way, and that you can then use that to be kind to others. Easier said than done though!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 05:55 PM
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I'm talking more generally, about how the energy you put out into the world has a direct effect on the sorts of connections you're able to make. A lady having had prior experiences is her own business, if you don't connect with that that's fine but to let it dim your heart isn't necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 04:55 PM
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I definitely agree that factors such as class and race play a huge factor in all this. I think men can sometimes be treated as the 'heirs' and sometimes women as princesses, it really varies. It sounds like you've been treated fearfully as a black man, that's really the takeaway I'm getting. The princess stuff feels more incidental to that, like a symbolic opposite of that pain. So i do hope you're ok pal 👍🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 03:55 PM
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Go to a salon and get them tinted a couple shades darker.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 03:51 PM
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Gosh I was empathising with you but I do think you've gone on off in a certain direction here. I think saying someone is dead behind the eyes from one meeting seems a little dramatic. There's a strange energy in this post. I'm not surprised you struggle to connect with women on multiple levels, but I think as well as considering what external factors there are, consider what internally is happening and what energy you put out there. Honestly, it was a little chilling. You may just be putting off…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 03:50 PM
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I'm an avoidant type who wants a long term relationship and who ends up attracting people who aren't wanting commitment. I've taken some time away from dating and I think I'm getting better with this, but it's definitely something I gave had to reflect on a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 03:45 PM
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Not in my experience. I would take what you read on here with a pinch of salt, I've never met anyone in real life who sees things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 03:38 PM
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OK, I am not in this position, and I am a woman in my 30s. My advice, take it if you wish; • say yes to as much socialising as you can comfortably bare. Even things that you think will be boring. • start volunteering - it's productive, beneficial, social and attractive to a lot of people. • presumably you are discussing being a man who dates women, in which case try and become friends with women, or develop existing friendships. Some men are scared of talking to women, which is understandable bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 03:36 PM
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I don't think women are more socially intuitive, however I didn't find anything valid or reliable in your post. There are a lot of men who constantly get away with everything, so called little princes. I'm not sure if gendered rates of this behaviour are quantifiable, nor if it's particularly important or interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 03:28 PM
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Two romance films have handsome leads with unrealistic plots, I'm not sure this is particularly notable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 03:26 PM
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As a woman my issue isn't with dating men who are virgins, it's lacking experience of a long term relationship, the sex part is just incidental to that. However this will vary person to person. To continue your job application analogy, yes it absolutely sucks if you don't have that work experience but I would prefer a partner with prior experience to develop a sustainable long term relationship. If one is so desperate to lose their virginity that they lie in order to do it then I don't think tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 03:23 PM
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The so called gendered differences are much more pronounced online than in the real world, at least where I live. The dating advice I've received from men and women has been pretty similar to be honest.
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