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double standardsBattleFrontire/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/24 11:27 AM
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discussionBattleFrontire/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/24 09:36 PM
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I strongly agree with this. While I'm upset about the negative stereotypes about men, I get that there's a lot of truth to them too. So there's that sense that if women would just twist the knife a little more, maybe people would start proposing scalable solutions to the masculinity crisis such as heavy pressure to change the way we socialize boys, research medicine that could decrease male sexual desire, and so on. But more extreme, scalable solutions always get shot down and women insist that …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:28 PM
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I think it's a lot more complicated than that. The fact of the matter is that women and men don't look the same. Younger women tend to be cute, pretty, neotenous, and seen as innocent. Whereas men are often big, hairy, and seen as scary. A significant part of femininity is centered around reinforcing those traits in young women; e.g. wearing a sundress with a floral pattern. That's part of why older women will sometimes be told to dress their age: as they get older, they become less attractive a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:27 AM
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Because many people view men as being gross and scary and morally bankrupt.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:14 AM
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I feel like being the "default" can have some drawbacks. - Issues that primarily affect men often get masked as being gender neutral, which makes it seem like men have it better than they really do. - It's sometimes assumed that women know everything there is about being a man while there's a lot that men don't know about women. This leads to stuff like people being outraged about men having an opinion on abortion, while moms get to have a say on circumcision.
/r/MensRights15/05/26 07:27 PM
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Some interesting points. At the end of the day, sexuality varies a lot from woman to woman so generalizations are never going to fully work. But I do suspect that there's something going on where slightly neurodivergent women tend to have male-like sexuality in some regards (e.g. seeing most women as attractive while seeing most men as gross) while otherwise being relatively normal cis women themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:29 PM
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When certain disadvantages that men face are discussed, it's very common for women to counter with one of the following: Who set that system up? Other men are the ones doing that to you. More generally, appealing to the fact that there's some percentage of men who are scumbags to throw all men under the bus and imply that the whole gender is corrupt/evil/defective/etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 11:04 AM
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A sex life isn't something your born into like an inheritance. It clearly is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:45 PM
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I don't think I do this myself. Though in my eyes, if a man and a woman have the same personality and competence, the woman is more valuable due to being able to give birth and typically more attractive. So there can be a certain feeling that as a man you have to bring something special to the table or else you're worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:21 PM
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Billions of AMABs are genitally mutilated just for simply being born male. And that includes trans women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:42 PM
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I kind of agree. I don't think it's necessarily on Reddit posters to fix this. But I think it's a problem that once a man starts feeling bad about being a man, there's no clear path towards fixing that. Complaining online will often lead to people saying more bad things about men. Complaining in real life can lead to the same. Therapy doesn't help too much since it's more catered to women than men. Becoming a trans woman doesn't work when they're an increasingly oppressed minority. I'm not sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:20 PM
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This is within itself a harsh assumption about men that leads to the attitudes you pretend to care about: That male victims aren't taking seriously, and that they are assumed to be the ones guilty when it comes to cases of interpersonal violence. That's what bothers me the most. I sort of get where they're coming from when they say bad things about men. But all of the dancing around the issue annoys me. If men truly are such a problem for women, then they should own it and make that abundantly c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 11:20 PM
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I think a decent amount of us would agree that intersectionality at its core is a fine concept, and the issue is just that feminism twists it into another way to ignore men's issues and promote "women good, men bad".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 01:59 PM
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I'm in a similar boat. I'm having trouble figuring out what my gender identity really is. I'm probably some flavor of non-binary, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if I was a cis man who just got burned out by all the "men are unattractive and dangerous and have bad personalities etc." talk.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/26 03:01 AM
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I get that to some extent. But if we live in a world where sexualized deepfakes are seen as worse than infant circumcision, it's clear that something's wrong.
/r/MensRights02/01/26 02:00 PM
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Disclaimer: I'm a non-binary person and am probably projecting ideas onto other men that might not really apply. To me, I think that best friend didn't do anything wrong. But I think it's easy to be jealous of her, and that might be where your friend's negative feelings are coming from. There's a general societal perception that women are gentle, innocent, and possess other similar positive traits. There are a subset of women who are notably like that most of the time. But there's also women who…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:15 PM
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The draft is the most straightforward and obvious. Women get much more protection from various forms of violence such as domestic violence, prison violence, and genital mutilation. Feminists and progressives generally believe that women are allowed to fully utilize and enjoy their biological advantages (looking significantly better on average and having more parental rights due to being the sex that gives birth), while men's biological advantages are more scrutinized (higher strength and able to…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:35 AM
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I agree with that in theory. I feel that there's often a disconnect between that and how feminists portray men in practice. Lately there's a been an emphasis on how men are dangerous and can't be easily trusted due to that. And that naturally leads to men not being trusted for caregiver roles, as teachers for young children, etc. I get that there's some truth to those concerns. But if we're going to say that men are notably less trustworthy than women, then the two genders can't ever really be e…
/r/MensRights24/12/25 02:35 AM
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I feel like most men would say that women are more attractive than men. So if women think men are even less attractive than men think, then that's a sad state of affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:11 PM
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I disagree. The main premise of toxic masculinity from my understanding is that being masculine and being a good person are conflicting goals. Whereas toxic femininity isn't a thing because being feminine and being a good person line up. Perhaps men wouldn't be as masculine if it weren't for women pushing us to be that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:51 AM
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My personal beef with feminism is that there's been a pattern where the following has happened: There's an issue that happens to both genders around the same amount, but the outcomes of the issue when it happens hurt women more than men. But it still hurts men too. The perpetrators of the issue can be people of either gender. Some good examples of these issues are domestic violence and genital mutilation. Feminists reframe the issue as being something that men do to women in the vast majority of…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:20 PM
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Men and women are different. Our hormones operate on different cycles and our brains work differently. Women aren't suited for intensely high-pressure environments, and we've pushed them into these environments and told them that choosing that path over a loving and happy family is what is truly fulfilling. I think it's more that most women and men aren't all that fond of jobs; it's just that having control of your own money is safer than depending on someone else.
/r/MensRights02/12/25 03:03 AM
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I get that the exact framing is different, but feminists still push the message that women are better than men. The 50s stereotype of gender is that women are pure, cute, precious angels while men are generally good people who are doing their best. The feminist stereotype of gender is that women are generally good people who are doing their best while men are often heavily flawed people at best and flat out monsters at worst. Feminists want women to be treated like the 50s stereotype of men, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:53 PM
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But people don't want a serious discussion about that either. When I say that we should start seriously considering a world where all males take feminizing HRT people get angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:12 AM
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To be fair, that topic would've been better on askfeminists, but it still seems extreme to ban over that.
/r/MensRights11/11/25 11:18 PM
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Personally speaking, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 03:08 AM
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If a woman pressures a man to perform oral on her and doesn’t care about his consent, I am pretty sure feminists (and anyone else) are against that. Eh.... I mean if a man didn't want to have sex with the woman in the first place then sure. But there's a growing attitude that men that don't do oral are selfish and bad because men should do oral to make up for PIV generally being more pleasurable for men than women. Both should be stigmatized. I am sure feminists would agree with you. Do you thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:38 AM
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Having that kind of access to free attention, sex, support, tolerance and acceptance also fully benefits them in every other aspect of life. This in particular is something I've been wondering about. Several years ago, I remember seeing a study and chart that suggested that gay men do the best in school, followed by straight women, and then straight men and lesbians were tied for last place. I can't find the original chart, but this article summarizes a study with similar findings. I suspect tha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/25 03:40 PM
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I mostly agree. Sex isn't a need for men and their libidos are controllable. It's of course nowhere near a valid excuse for rape and such. However, as you pointed out, it's still a lot. It's very controllable, but it's a lot in a way that non-testosterone-driven people will never really understand. So I disagree with your "the libido is really not that different" statement because I don't buy that most cis women experience "I was horny beyond all reason, don't get me wrong, but I just invested i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:13 PM
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Pushing for less successful men to take feminizing HRT, and heavily pushing for trans women to be more accepted in society could be a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:21 PM
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I think it would be most accurate to say that women generally have more depth to their empathy while men generally have more breadth.
/r/MensRights15/10/25 04:23 PM
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Why is it called "performative male" instead of "performative man"? We keep hearing about how saying female instead of woman is awful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 04:51 PM
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Yeah. I think the husband is clearly in the wrong on this one. I'd rather that we fight this one on the other side: wives shouldn't be entitled to shit tons of money just for being married for a few years either.
/r/MensRights01/08/25 11:22 AM
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I never really got the whole "men age like fine wine while women age like milk" thing. There's a lot of older women who still look somewhat great whereas older men often have to deal with crap like male pattern baldness. Maybe the average woman's looks goes down more than the average man's, but only because the average woman had much more looks to lose in the first place and she still has better looks anyway.
/r/MensRights17/07/25 02:25 AM
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So basically you're saying that the attention gap doesn't matter because most men aren't attractive and thus attention from them is worthless. Which obviously really sucks for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:27 PM
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In the section about the media they make the argument that because the media landscape is majority owned and controlled by men, therefore it can't be anti-male. This is invalid. The media is shaped by cultural market forces and ideological norms, not just by what genitals the person in charge of it all happens to possess. If social and market forces are pushing for anti-male themes, then that's what they'll defer to. So the media can absolutely be anti-male while also majority male-owned and con…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/25 11:19 AM
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I don't know. I guess ideally, but it's hard to define. Like take restaurant waiters for example. It's likely the case that women waiters get more tips than men waiters. Say that Restaurant A makes a point of keeping their waiter gender ratio 50/50. While Restaurant B hires more women than men and cite tips as the reason. Which restaurant is discriminating? Restaurant B is being unfair to men, but Restaurant A is being unfair to women in that they're being kept out of a job they're arguably bett…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/25 11:54 PM
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This. Feminists have to be very careful about making "mankeeping" an issue because it's pretty obvious that women are at least as bad about venting if not worse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/25 11:49 PM
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I think that patriarchy exists on some level, but it's much more complicated than most people give it credit for. It seems that young women are actually outperforming young men in the workplace. At some point women fall off though because they often take off much more time off while and after having kids. Part of this is due to biological reasons, part of this is because mothers are seen as the primary parents. Being seen as the primary parent sucks in some ways, but it can also be a critical pr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/25 07:40 PM
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Granted I'm not familiar with the exact context, but my gut reaction is that it's more of a joke or she wants a kid who doesn't live a high profile life where they're some kind of self-sacrificing hero.
/r/MensRights21/06/25 01:50 PM
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This. And honestly it's kind of the transgender community's fault. There's often an over-emphasis on the social side of gender (e.g. wanting to dress like another gender) and not as much on the physical side (e.g. hating your genitals or secondary sex characteristics and strongly wanting the other sex's physical traits). I feel like emphasizing more on the physical side of gender dysphoria could have a better chance of convincing non-trans people to support them, since it can't be countered with…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/25 01:30 AM
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I have a theory that it's partially due to instincts. Women are physically weaker than men, and are especially vulnerable while they're pregnant, but women are critical for reproduction. So there was an incentive for evolution to give humanity the desire to give women special treatment which it doesn't necessarily give to men. Combine that with the increasing "men are predators, men are incompetent, men are lazy, etc." talk and you get the current situation.
/r/MensRights14/06/25 11:39 AM
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It's been getting more attention, but still not enough relative to how blatantly wrong it is when you actually think about it: In America and several other cultures, it's very common to circumcise male babies soon after they're born. Circumcision often removes a lot of skin and can remove a lot of sexual pleasure: both from the removed tissue itself and from the glans being less protected and keratinizing over time. There's very few if no health benefits to circumcision, whereas we would never r…
/r/MensRights13/06/25 11:19 AM
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Sounds like you handled the police alright. But if you want custody of your daughter, it's going to be a very tough legal fight.
/r/MensRights07/06/25 09:41 PM
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I somewhat agree. I suspect it's even simpler than that and they just don't like the idea of well-off men being able to rent the main biological trait of women because it makes them feel less special.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/25 11:20 AM
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How is it possible that 30% of men in the U.S. have experienced contact sexual violence, including rape, coercion, and unwanted sexual contact? We already know that around 50-80% of boys are raped by their parents and doctors shortly after birth. It happens to be called circumcision.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/25 05:10 PM
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Although in this Xitter poster's dystopian world, all trans women would be aborted before birth while trans men would likely be stopped from transitioning one way or another.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/25 11:55 AM
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That's a good point. Women have made it clear that forcing them to have children would be a grave offense, so turning around and using this as an excuse is lame. I think I'd be fine with it if it was reworked so that women can choose one of the following things when a draft happens: If she's pregnant, she's exempt from any draft. If she has custody of a child younger than 11 years old, she can choose to be exempt from any draft. She has to register for the military draft. She can register for an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/25 10:53 PM
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I thought your title for the article would be hyperbolic, but my god it's even worse than I thought. Look, the data's overwhelming: Four times as likely to kill themselves. Three times as likely to be addicted, 12 times as likely to be incarcerated. Record levels of depression. We're raising the most obese, anxious and depressed generation in history. For the first time, a 30-year-old isn't doing as well as his or her parents were at 30. Women are making more money in urban centres under the age…
/r/MensRights06/05/25 02:33 AM
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I feel that was actually a good topic besides the "act like a woman" catchphrase. I get she's trying to say "don't chain yourself to one set of gender norms", but it doesn't really flow well with the rest of her argument, and is frustrating to hear when men are currently caught in a double bind of "masculinity sucks, but being a feminine man or trans woman is even worse".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/25 11:45 AM
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I agree. There's definitely some people who genuinely hate women, don't get me wrong. But I feel like a lot of misogyny is rooted in seeing women as delicate, maybe even like children, and babying them too hard to the point it causes problems for the woman. While this is certainly bad, it's very different from racism, and feminism ironically indirectly encourages it a little by pushing people to view women as being sensitive, needing special rights, and so on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 09:40 PM
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I still don't understand at all if feminism is supposed to be for women specifically or for general gender equality. Pretty sure it's just whichever's convenient at the time. Or for some women it's "gender equality, but men have no gender related issues; just ignore the draft and MGM kthx"
/r/MensRights30/04/25 01:50 AM
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It's legal to amputate an infant boy's foreskin while all forms of female genital mutilation are illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:07 PM
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That and cis women who don't have children still at least go through decades of periods
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/25 09:26 PM
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I'm an AMAB who didn't realize I'm likely non-binary or trans until recently. IMO painting men as the source of all evil hurts anyone who isn't a cis woman since the rest of us could be seen as having some of that evil. Maybe that person genuinely believes that trans women are fine, but that sort of talk still encourages misandry-based hatred towards trans women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/25 01:45 AM
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Yeah, I'm so baffled by that post. My first impression was that the girlfriend was just being a prude and doesn't like seeing the guy's legs or thighs or whatever, but like 99% of that topic jumped towards "he must not be wearing underwear and he must be showing his junk!" It honestly feels like it's projection, since women are more likely to not wear underwear, and skirts make it a lot easier to accidentally show that area. I guess I'll at least speculate that the story is completely fake and w…
/r/MensRights13/04/25 11:31 AM
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This would be a great one to gender flip in a year. I guarantee you that the cousin's boyfriend who complains about TC wearing a skirt would get absolutely blasted, even if he saw her junk. No, I take that back, especially if he saw her junk.
/r/MensRights12/04/25 07:59 PM
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I took my time to get back to this. whisky_pete's response did a good job of summarizing my thoughts on it. I'm generally dissatisfied with my genitals; they're dry, orgasms are weak, they can hurt, etc. From various anecdotes, it sounds like having foreskin would've helped prevent at least some of that. I can't know for sure if it would've, but it's unfair that I wasn't able to confirm that on my own. On top of that, it was an unnecessary and painful procedure, and me not remembering it isn't a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 02:33 PM
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Fair point. I think you're too hard on femininity though; there's certainly positive aspects to it, as well as negative aspects to masculinity. But it's true that femininity allows certain slightly negative traits to be framed in a positive manner when it's a woman who does them, which feels unfair. I think that men can benefit from a similar effect in that they can get away with anger more for example, but parts of society are pushing back on that being acceptable. Which kind of makes sense sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 02:28 PM
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Most people don't realize this, but in the show, at the end of the story, a few scathingly honest reviews I was able to find noted that the parents of Jamie point out that his sister is born perfect, and she is always agreeable, never violent and always friendly and positive. So this tragedy must therefore not be a problem with the parents' genes or the traits they passed along to their children. The unspoken conclusion here is that their son is broken merely by the fact that he is born male. Th…
/r/MensRights09/04/25 11:40 PM
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Good post. Don't forget that in most 1st world countries, girls are legally protected from all forms of genital mutilation while boys are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 10:39 AM
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George Floyd 100% didn't deserve to die, but singling him out like he's the 2nd coming of Christ always feels a little weird to me. MLK would probably be better for that rhetoric.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/25 09:34 PM
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I haven't watched it myself. It sounds like while it's hard on red pill culture, it also implies that men have difficulties imposed on them by society, and a lot of viewers seem to sympathize with Jamie to a reasonable extent. It's hard to say what sort of impact it'll have in the long term though. Since I feel that at least some of the reason that men fall into this negativity is due to the stereotypes that men are flawed and dangerous while women are wonderful and innocent, and Adolescence fee…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/25 01:29 AM
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I agree that blaming women specifically is counter-productive. But I think that there's ways in which biology and society as a whole unfairly disadvantage men. The biggest one is that women are often seen as being cute and innocent while men are often seen as ugly and dangerous, and that disadvantages men in dating, friendships, certain careers, and so on. Unfortunately it's easy for that to turn into blaming women.
/r/MensRights23/03/25 12:59 PM
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This. People generally don't mind if cis women are masculine in some ways after all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/25 12:37 PM
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Removing patriarchy wouldn't change the part where a random man is seen as more dangerous than a random woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 12:20 PM
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This. I'm working on a theory that people like femininity, but only when an attractive woman is the one being feminine. For example, older women will get told to "dress their age" in a way that older men aren't. I think that's rooted in the same reasons people don't like trans women, men who are feminine, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 11:30 AM
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Saying that relationships are more important than housing or having a job is really dumb and inaccurate. It's like saying sex is a need. Neither of them are needs compared to actual needs. That said, I do feel that sex and relationships stick out among wants and other optional things. Humans are hard-coded to want companionship and to want to reproduce. Many of us get that having kids, sex, and even relationships can have many drawbacks and we avoid some or all of them due to that, but oftentime…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:20 AM
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How would you describe "the essence of the social aspect of femininity" then?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:30 AM
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Statements like that imply that men are repulsive to women in a way that women aren't repulsive to men. Which implies that TC has a bit of a point: men have a disadvantage in dating/sex/relationships/etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 08:49 PM
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It sort of makes sense, but putting it into law that women are more moral than men isn't great.
/r/MensRights06/03/25 12:36 AM
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I also wouldn’t be shocked if this is designed as rage bait for men—get us to watch, thinking it’s another hit piece, only to subvert expectations when the red-pill kid didn’t actually murder the girl. Cue the “See? You all got way too defensive of the manosphere!” moment. I really want them to go that route, but after reading an article about it I'm fairly certain they're going to play it straight and the kid will be guilty. https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/feb/28/is-this-the-most-terrifyi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/25 01:36 PM
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This maybe isn't the biggest issue, but the main issue which is just a blatant double standard for no good reason is how it's legal and even encouraged to circumcise baby boys. It should be illegal except in scenarios where there's actual large, undeniable health benefits. Just like any other similar surgery on a minor.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 12:49 PM
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Simply because women are less likely to demand their rights excessively and are willing to work for anything. I follow the rest of your post, but I'm curious as to what you mean by this part.
/r/MensRights22/02/25 02:49 AM
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I'm impressed that I've scrolled through at least 30 top-level comments and every single one is anti-men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/25 12:49 PM
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I definitely don't like it. I think the draft being men-only can be "kinda sorta okay" in a vacuum as long as the government's ability to use the draft is heavily restricted. But it's absolutely a dick move to say "men have to sign up for the draft to be able to vote" while women get handed the right to vote when they turn 18. If you're going to explicitly tie voting and the draft together like that, then you have to find some way to make it fair or else men are just a second class gender system…
/r/MensRights14/02/25 01:23 AM
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Eh, I think that saying that sex is a need for men is both cringy and untrue. But I think it's true that most humans strongly desire some form of sexual contact with the gender they're attracted to. And that women clearly have a massive advantage in that regard compared to men.
/r/MensRights08/02/25 01:58 PM
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It's a tricky issue. I agree with the counter-arguments that making people feel bad about their bodies is bad, and that giving in has a "give an inch, take a mile" issue where some cultures don't want women to show any skin at all. Women dressing like they currently do is probably fine most of the time; breasts are whatever but the crotch area shouldn't be too exposed. It's just that if we lived in a world where men dress more provocatively, it's obvious that women would complain about it and th…
/r/MensRights21/01/25 04:38 PM
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I'm non-binary myself and I agree that the whole situation sucks. I do agree with feminists that women have it worse overall, but it's more complicated than they think. For example, there's many people who are rude or worse to women, but the average person is nicer to women (e.g. the "women are wonderful" effect) so it's hard to say which gender really has it better in that regard. Men being stronger is also very much a double-edged sword, since it leads to people distrusting men and/or expectin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/24 04:24 PM
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Guess what happens to many baby boys? They get their foreskin cut off even though most of them would never give informed consent to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:59 AM
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Except men don't have bodily autonomy. I'm a man and am a genital mutilation victim, whereas women are legally protected from genital mutilation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:54 AM
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This. I can accept that the mom being able to abort while the dad not being able to step out is probably the "fairest" way, but people should at least drop the attitude towards men if they want them to actually accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:48 AM
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I agree that there has to be some limits to what a man can use his strength for. But IMO, saying that a man's unique gender traits are only good when used for the benefit of others is bad, since we rightfully don't ask the same of women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/24 12:29 PM
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This is something I've struggled with a lot over the past 2 years to the point that I even took HRT for a bit last year. In my case, I'm probably some type of non-binary or genderfluid or whatever, so I could go either way if I had to. Right now, I feel like I'm stuck in the middle since trans women still have a mountain of issues and they're getting worse, while the world is becoming increasingly negative about men and masculinity. It feels like the only acceptable way to be an AMAB is to give …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/24 04:44 PM
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The two most blatant issues which should be fixed for men are: Military drafts should either be gender neutral or fully abolished. It's not fair to force men to put their lives on the line and to kill others while women are exempt from this. Circumcision of minors should be illegal. Foreskin is perfectly good skin, and in fact it's important for sexual pleasure and effects how a man has sex. And even if foreskin was a slight net negative, that still wouldn't be a good enough reason to take away …
/r/MensRights25/11/24 11:05 PM
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IMO the much more blatant comparison and hypocrisy would be to foreskin instead of small penises. It's extremely hypocritical to be vocally against shaming outies but to be okay with mutilating male infants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 01:54 AM
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As a man who was circumcised as an infant, I hate my genitals due to it and I'll probably never have sex due to it. You don't get to say it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:36 AM
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As much as feminists claim the opposite, we all know what would really happen if men could get pregnant but everything else was still the same. "You got pregnant? Be a man and put up with it for 9 months! If you didn't want to get pregnant, you should've thought about that before you get your dick wet!" Though in the end, it's a flawed hypothetical since the ability to get pregnant is the main thing that defines each sex in the first place. So in a world where men could get pregnant, men would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:01 PM
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I suspect that men's interest in having kids is going down too, just that it's not happening as quickly as women's interest. Which makes sense: women (or rather AFABs) have more to lose from having a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:07 PM
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Sarah probably already has access to plenty of free dick. She can probably go to a bar or on a dating app and get dick within 24 hours. Whereas the boyfriend likely has much harder access to sex. Men usually have more to gain from sex since they're more likely to orgasm (or at least ejaculate) from PIV sex. Women are usually more attractive than men and smell better, so there's often a clear value mismatch there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:40 PM
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Society should be more accepting of trans women so that more AMABs can transition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:51 PM
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This is one of my biggest pet peeves with feminism. They very much try to have it both ways with "feminism is for men too" but also "feminism isn't obligated to fix men's issues" or "women's issues are more important and thus we won't get to men's issues anytime in our lifetimes". It definitely feels like they want to just shut down men's rights initiatives via a dumb technicality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 12:59 AM
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At times I wonder how much of women's distrust of men has to do with "well men are worse than women, and I do or think these bad things, so men must be even worse in that regard".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 12:43 AM
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Circumcision of minors should be illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:05 PM
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Circumcision of minors should clearly be illegal because it's genital mutilation
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/24 12:43 PM
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I like to call this Schrodinger's Feminism. Whether feminism is: About equality and is for both genders. About women's rights and not really for men. Can change depending on whatever's most convenient for a feminist in the current conversation. I guess the more nuanced argument is that academic feminists research both genders, while activists only care about women. So if men want more rights, they have to fight for them themselves, but they also have to follow feminist research because ignoring …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/24 10:11 AM
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Bold of you to assume that feminists think that toxic femininity is a thing in the first place.
/r/MensRights20/08/24 03:24 PM
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I think that's been an increasingly bad problem for the left in general. It feels like certain lefties are way too overly eager to shit over people they deem as problematic, to the point that I suspect being mean is the main point and they're looking for socially permissible ways to do so. A good example is how people would harass streamers for playing Hogwarts Legacy by accusing them of being transphobic even though Hogwarts Legacy itself is actually a very pro-transgender game.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/24 11:04 PM
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I have mixed feelings about toxic masculinity. To me, toxic masculinity relates to how being masculine and being a good person can be conflicting goals. In that regard, I think that stoicism could be seen as toxic masculinity in some ways. But in the case of stoicism, I feel like the blame should be more on people who intentionally or unintentionally push men to be stoic rather than men themselves. I think that men are often stoic as a defense mechanism from the world telling them that their fee…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/24 09:47 PM
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But Hillary Clinton told me that women are most affected by war!
/r/MensRights05/08/24 11:51 AM
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Agreed. There can be some decent topics, but it definitely crosses the line into flat out misogony at times too. Like there was a topic about a story where a guy saved his girlfriend's life but was majorly injured in the process and just kinda gave up on life after that which led to his girlfriend breaking up with him. General consensus was that the breakup was probably fine but "we just want to whine about women anyway".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/24 10:44 PM
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I think part of it is that women are more willing to date older people, and then as women get older some of them drop out of dating and relationships altogether. Those 2 points allow for women to "spread out" the top ~90% of men across the 100% of women who actually want to date, with most women being part of that 100% during their 20s while men can't rotate into their top X% as easily. Another part of it is maybe socially awkward and/or less attractive men are more likely to show their faces in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:57 PM
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I go back and forth on it a lot myself. I think I agree with the overall concept of toxic masculinity, but it really needs a better name. And positive masculinity can be good, but it 100% needs to be defined by men, not cis women feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/24 03:54 PM
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Agreed. In a vacuum this is 100% fine. It just doesn't sit well because of the following: If someone attempted to build a men-only apartment building, we all know it'd be protested for being sexist and/or dangerous and/or insulting to women somehow. There's already a trend of women looking for roommates to only want to rent to other women, which is 200% fine. But if this stuff keeps getting more common, and the housing market stays bad for buyers, it might get to the point where women have an ea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/24 10:01 PM
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Yeah, but the queer movement's dislike of men can extend to trans men too, so we can be allies with trans men at least.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/24 11:50 AM
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Lately I've been wondering if a lot of women's negativity towards men is rooted in "Well I have these bad thoughts, and men are less moral than women, so men must be even worse!"
/r/MensRights25/05/24 03:25 PM
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Would you include trans women in that since you say it has to do with sex instead of gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:31 AM
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I kind of agree. I think feminism's biggest problem is just that it's in desperate need of a rebranding. The phrases "patriarchy", "toxic masculinity", and even "feminism" itself all paint a clear women vs. men picture. And as long as that's the case, a lot of feminists will see men as the enemy and a lot of men won't want to be feminists.
/r/MensRights19/05/24 07:09 PM
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Should a woman who doesn't want to get pregnant never have sex either then?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/24 01:23 AM
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"If boys are no longer important for the purpose of continuing the family lineage, serving as capable family farm workers, being the heirs to family businesses or being responsible for providing, then what’s special about them? While we extoll the virtues of girls on a regular basis, we’re afraid to do the same with boys, just in case we fall back on harmful antiquated stereotypes. And even as a card-carrying liberal, I think this creates a pretty toxic dynamic." As a non-binary AMAB, this is on…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/24 07:46 PM
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I mostly agree. Touching someone's butt shouldn't be okay to do, but it's fair to say that it shouldn't automatically be lumped in with much more severe sexual assaults. I think that in a vacuum, certain double standards are okay-ish. But when men consistently get the short end of the stick, it sends the message that men's lives aren't worth as much as women's and that can be very demotivating to some men. At the end of the day, not everything has to be 100% fair, but when even the more blatant …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/24 09:50 PM
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I feel like this alludes to an important point. Ironically, women complaining about being harassed by men so loudly and viciously may actually make the problem seem worse in that it's going to make more and more empathetic men just ignore women, while men won't don't give a shit will keep harassing women and will become a larger percentage of a woman's interactions with men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/24 10:54 PM
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I think you make some good points, but this part feels a little bit off. Aloof, serious fictional men are disliked by some people, but they have plenty of fans too. For example, Kratos and Leon are some of the most popular characters in the Tales video game series. I agree that women who have similar personalities tend to be less polarizing though. Just because something is bad doesn't make the exact opposite of it good. Moderation is important. But I appreciate what you're getting at; that some…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/24 01:37 PM
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Thinking about it more, the main thing that bugs me about it is that the majority of women who choose the bear probably have a boyfriend or husband. Like if women were really this terrified of men I'd emphasize, but it's clear that this is partially motivated by the desire to shit on men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/24 11:20 AM
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I agree that while it's a problem, there's no real solution that's both ethical and directly addresses the problem. Some things which I think could at least somewhat help are: Try to cut down on sexism on both sides. It's hard for the dating market to function when a lot of women are afraid of men, and a lot of men are either self-conscious about that or are part of the problem. Right now, most women put a ton of effort into their appearance while most men only do the bare minimum. This leads to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 01:38 PM
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I'm personally an AMAB who realized early last year that I'm not entirely cis. I keep going back and forth between whether I'm really a trans woman or if I'm just a non-binary person who's fed up with the way that society demonizes men. I'm definitely not a "normal" cis man, since I do have some legitimate physical gender dysphoria and at minimum wouldn't mind female traits. But if I lived in an alternate world where I wasn't a genital mutilation victim and didn't constantly hear about how men a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/24 09:26 PM
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I suspect this touches on the main reason that young boys are falling behind. I feel like young girls are given more of a "playbook" of "if you're polite, hard-working, and take good care of your appearance, you'll get far in life". And it's true that a girl who does those things will excel at most relevant things: school, making friends, dating, long-term relationships, and work; even if she's not really good at much else. And there's various things that push girls towards this; e.g. even if th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/24 12:53 PM
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It's a hard issue. I can describe what might be going through their heads, but I'm not sure how much it'll help. I think they're likely struggling a lot with self-worth. Some of that has to do with certain things in society being a bit rigged against men, but then when an individual man fails we encourage him to blame himself for it. e.g. education is catered more towards girls and we push boys towards time-consuming hobbies such as video games which doesn't help with school either. We also don'…
/r/MensRights14/04/24 10:13 AM
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I agree that circumcision is the opposite of a zero sum issue in practice. FGM will never ever fully go away as long as MGM is viewed as acceptable, so banning circumcision would help women too. Despite that, I think progressives view it as zero sum anyway. It's somewhat common for people to have an attitude of "circumcision is bad, but why do you want to spend time in this when there's other more important issues?"
/r/MensRights11/04/24 09:54 PM
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In some ways, positive masculinity might bother me more than toxic masculinity since oftentimes positive masculinity is used in the context of women trying to define men as what they can do for women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/24 03:35 PM
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I was going to say the male celebrity, but after reading this thread I honestly think it might be the average woman. Or at least it's very close. But only if we make the following assumptions: Both are straight. Both only sleep with the opposite gender. Both are willing to sleep with most people of the opposite gender; not necessarily 100% but at least 80%. Both have high sex drives. The woman can just go on Tinder and get a sexual encounter lined up fairly easily. Then when it's done she can go…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 10:11 PM
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This is something I've been struggling with a lot lately. It gets especially tricky since there's a fine line between feeling this way due to frustrations around men's current status in society vs. feeling this way due to actually being a trans woman and I still haven't figured out which side of that I'm really on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/24 11:23 AM
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Women are under attack right now, politically/legally. If my body was regulated by the government, there would literally be blood in the streets. I'm a man and became a genital mutilation victim shortly after birth due to the government's failure to make that illegal for boys despite it being illegal for girls. So it's not like men have proper bodily autonomy either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/24 12:08 PM
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But women do more household chores! Why don't you launch BASH: Blokes Against Sexual Harassment?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/24 10:47 PM
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