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| 3 | Do you understand that you can't force women to lower their standard?Attraction and standards aren’t the same thing though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 08:22 PM |
| 2 | Has online dating produced more positive or negative effects for you and why?I would say negative overall. Most men wouldn’t put much effort into their profiles (no text, images that didn’t do them justice) so then you’d have to try to get that first impression over text. I personally struggle with needing to build up to a certain level of communication before wanting to see someone in person, but when I’d want to know more and try to talk about things, they’d just keep pushing towards meeting (and I’m talking after like a couple of days), and I hate feeling pressured an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 07:51 PM |
| 1 | THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREADIs that the only hope? 😂 maybe you’re right and it’s just too much to take this all so seriously | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 03:45 AM |
| – | Why do the blue pill men here infantalize women?Who is saying any of that? I’m not sure what type of commentary you’re referring to honestly. Because there are women who do have casual sex. What I hear is that largely, they are less incentivized to have casual sex and may have different drivers. Sure, plenty of people will fall into the “women are wonderful” and defenseless and are “chronically pressured by the patriarchy” pit, but I just don’t think I see what specifically type of talk you’re referring to in this post. I think there’s validi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 03:31 AM |
| 1 | THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREADI’m all for seeing the messiness of things and will be the first to laugh at things. But after a certain point these rp “proponents” seem so broken and delusional that I can’t help but feel they need help to snap out of the brainwashing. They are blindly eating up the most harmful and demoralizing ideas and it stops being funny and starts being sad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 03:24 AM |
| 1 | Red-Pill needs to put more stock in teaching men how to be good in bed.Idk why red pillers are being so negative about a sound piece of advice. All these comments here from guys who want to take zero accountability and just want to blame a male caricature and the totality of the opposite sex for every grievance they have. You’re saying something that I think is very valuable and is one of the main reasons why women are less inclined to have casual sex in some circumstances. And having good sex is often a matter of attitude and not as much a skill thing sometimes. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 03:07 AM |
| – | THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREADCan we have a rule about people who misrepresent data and intentionally misuse statistics and reports to push misinformation? Most of the super charged and borderline hateful posts I see that have “research” backing them up are being written by people with very low literacy and comprehension of statistics, who then cherry pick fragments to insert into unrelated contexts. It’s impossible to have a meaningful discussion when people are coming from the point of stubbornly misusing data. I think it’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 02:52 AM |
| 3 | Women are generally stingy and have a really hard time sharing their resources with men.Ok so why don’t men do as much of it if it’s so easy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 04:51 PM |
| 2 | Women are generally stingy and have a really hard time sharing their resources with men.Yes, and they both contradict the conclusions you’re making buddy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 04:47 PM |
| 5 | Women are generally stingy and have a really hard time sharing their resources with men.Literally the simplest conclusion to anyone that read that study and understood it. It’s just that. They want a fairer relationship and some gender dynamics don’t support that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 04:43 PM |
| 2 | Women are generally stingy and have a really hard time sharing their resources with men.Your study literally explains why there is a spike in divorces. If you even read it, why are you asking me why?Read it. Some of the conclusions were actually as follows: It has nothing to do with being exposed to “temptation” of new partners. Economic independence is NOT a key factor driving the women who seek divorce post promotion Gender expectations at the moment the relationship begins have more to do with it MOST WOMEN still remain married post divorce. Most women in this study are already … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 04:39 PM |
| 3 | Women are generally stingy and have a really hard time sharing their resources with men.Yeah read your first study again where it concludes that most women still stay married post promotion and that economic independence isn’t a factor driving divorces post promotions. It absolutely negates what you’re arguing for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Women are generally stingy and have a really hard time sharing their resources with men.It’s frustrating because even if you can take this study and say it’s generally representative of reality, they don’t care about reality. People just care about arguing about whatever they believe in and deliberately and delusionally blind themselves to anything that suggests otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 04:30 PM |
| 1 | Women are generally stingy and have a really hard time sharing their resources with men.How can you be making such a huge deal over this study and not even have read it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 04:25 PM |
| – | Women are generally stingy and have a really hard time sharing their resources with men.It’s closer to 3 hours. Per day. If it was so little you’d think men wouldn’t have such a hard time doing their fair share of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 04:24 PM |
| 1 | Women are generally stingy and have a really hard time sharing their resources with men.It’s extremely difficult to do that when you’re deliberately misrepresenting the data and cherry picking what you want to acknowledge while ignoring the actual conclusions of the study. That’s really illiterate engagement on your end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 04:23 PM |
| 1 | Women are generally stingy and have a really hard time sharing their resources with men.How is it true when the study you share shows that most women still remain married post promotion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 04:22 PM |
| 3 | Women are generally stingy and have a really hard time sharing their resources with men.None of these posters know how to interpret data. They extract whatever short statements they can and completely negate context and what can actually be suggested by these studies. “Women are generally stingy”, “most women”. This genius can’t even read the snippets he’s posted showing that most women still remain married after promotions. By a large margin in all of their examples. Using data that completely negates what he says in the most delusional way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 04:14 PM |
| 3 | Women are generally stingy and have a really hard time sharing their resources with men.Per day. Seriously? You do 15 hours of free work a week then if it’s so little. Considering it’s not counting weekends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 04:05 PM |
| 4 | If Women Were Historically in Charge We Wouldnt Ne Better Off—And If They Took Charge Tomorrow Nothing Would Be Different.Productivity and technology don’t equate to morally better, happier, more fulfilled. It’s not a failure to opt for one or the other. It depends on what you define as “better off”. So if you’re holding a matriarchy to the standards of a patriarchal society, it won’t be any better. What you’re talking about is a society that would value different things - and honestly what a fucking refresher. Why do we value competition, hierarchies, grinding? “Rigid and competitive” is a way plenty of men in par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/24 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Generalizations like "men/women are x" are almost always stupidOk but you can say the exact same thing in the context of fascism and the right. And it’s just as factual and as currently observable in American politics as the examples you gave. That isn’t exclusive to the left or liberal side of the sphere. And if you can’t do that then you’re literally doing the exact same thing you’re criticizing. Edit: and capitalism isn’t inherently virtuous or free of criticism because it has plenty of observable negative impacts. Criticizing it isnt the marker for radi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/24 06:52 PM |
| 4 | Generalizations like "men/women are x" are almost always stupidIt depends. Generalizations can be helpful, but here they’re usually used either negatively or taken out of context to push certain points. And the tone it takes in certain groups, like this one, is that those generalizations are used to negate any nuance or possible contradictions. Example 1: 55% of male voters voted for Trump. This becomes “most men vote for Trump. Men are against us. Men are the enemy. 4B!!” Example 2: women swipe right on 1/5 of the profiles they see on tinder or whatever. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/24 04:47 PM |
| 3 | Generalizations like "men/women are x" are almost always stupidPeople can, but it’s because they want to or something makes them get slapped in the face with awareness. The people who sign up for these radical ideas and view society in really black and white terms constantly see opposing views and reasonable takes, and it doesn’t stop and make them think any differently. Yes, what you’re saying is correct. But it won’t matter to those who are already signed up for a certain type of world view. What will change them is going out, socializing with different p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/24 04:43 PM |
| 3 | CMV: More women should join the 4B movement in the USThis is incredibly stupid and harmful. I don’t need to punish myself and men because of what happened in the election. Women as a collective don’t need to punish men and deprive themselves of normal and healthy human interaction. There are plenty of groups of women who voted conservative - what do you propose we do to them according to this logic? I like plenty of men. I dislike plenty of men. I like plenty of women. I dislike plenty of women. I’m not configuring my entire life according to what… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/24 04:39 PM |
| 8 | Generalizations like "men/women are x" are almost always stupidDon’t you go around pulling those big guns of reasonable takes out in this group! Of course people are individuals and despite whatever generalizations you make, everyone is going to be different. And, even if we did say “oh XYZ generalizations do happen”, not everyone, not even the majority of people, operate according to the gender stereotypes proposed on here. Not everyone is playing the dating game of high value whatever they call it. Not everyone is operating accounting to patriarchal gende… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/24 04:17 PM |
| 3 | Do you expect to date a person with your political beliefs?The gender disparity in the republican and democratic voting groups isn’t too big. When you look at it by age range, there are some brackets where there are way more men or women voting for a certain party, but overall it was 55% men republican and 53% women democrat. That’s not too crazy a difference and an incredibly small amount to argue that political preferences are gender coded. While I personally am more leftist, I don’t identify as republican or democrat because those parties largely don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/24 04:09 PM |
| – | The passport bros are done with closed borders, so yes a 4B movement can work in the US.Ok. Please link the official demographic data from the government of Spain that proves a single thing you have been saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/24 03:05 PM |
| – | The passport bros are done with closed borders, so yes a 4B movement can work in the US.That’s not a “there you go” when you grab a random article that popped up from Google and doesn’t even back what you’re saying. So you’re struggling with statistics and literacy, I get it. But not a single point mentioned in that article validates your arguments. If you read what you sent, it doesn’t mention the proportion of white to non white in any age group, it doesn’t mention birth rates in whites vs non whites, it doesn’t even mention the amount of non white people being “imported”. “Thous… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/24 02:24 PM |
| – | The passport bros are done with closed borders, so yes a 4B movement can work in the US.4B is so nonexistent, especially in the context of the US. In Korea, 4B has not and will never make a dent in the ultra elitist and patriarchal society it’s happening in. These fringe examples aren’t even close to illustrating trends in reality and yet it’s such a fundamental discussion point for certain online crowds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/24 02:11 PM |
| – | The passport bros are done with closed borders, so yes a 4B movement can work in the US.Yeah women don’t need a super niche and highly context dependent movement to decide they’d rather date men of certain values. Women don’t need 4B to decide what they want their partners to believe and participate in. That doesn’t change anything. The women who wouldn’t date certain conservative types now probably had their reasoning for that long ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/24 02:07 PM |
| – | The passport bros are done with closed borders, so yes a 4B movement can work in the US.60% of Hispanic women and 90%% of Black women that voted. That is not 60% and 90% of all Hispanic and Black women in the US. So even less but OP is trying to twist numbers to make a point that isn’t sustained by fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/24 02:05 PM |
| – | The passport bros are done with closed borders, so yes a 4B movement can work in the US.Ok, give me a single legit verifiable data point in a context that sustains your argument. What age group? What percentage is not predominantly white/identifying as white? Saying there are higher birth rates among non-whites in Spain does not mean the non white population is higher in younger populations. You don’t know how to contextualize statistics apparently. And what countries specifically when you say “less white compared to other countries”? If you’re making the point of passport bros, th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/24 01:57 PM |
| – | The passport bros are done with closed borders, so yes a 4B movement can work in the US.What are you talking about? You’re suggesting that a country in Europe with a population that is 80%+ white (literally, original European white) has “not many white people there compared to other countries”. That’s a whole lot of random nonsense put together to make a point that says nothing. Spain is also has a very complex political situation with a very stubborn right and isn’t as left leaning as you suggest. Also a country that retains many culturally patriarchal notions. Our are you literal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/24 01:22 PM |
| 2 | Are there any women who have helped out their male friends after they were falsely accused for something by another woman?I’ve never had a single person close to me or that I directly know be falsely accused of SA or some sort of domestic violence. The situations of da/sa/harrasment I’ve known of in which I directly know the perpetrator, I’ve seen it directly happen or witnessed some other behavior that backs the story or an official judgement has been made. What I have seen is even more people close to me come forward after being assaulted or harassed, even in cases I’ve witnessed, and the amount of people who dis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/24 03:28 AM |
| 4 | How are men supposed to meet women's standards when women are so educated?Having a set of degrees doesn’t make you better or worse at face value. When people want someone “on their level”, it can be all sorts of combinations of things. I have out earned all except one of my partners, I usually have the better job and academic background. That doesn’t mean I’ve been with anyone “beneath” me. And I’ve been able to appreciate wherever they’re at in life based on the context. To me, “on my level” is someone who had a good lifestyle that’s compatible with mine. Their value… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/24 03:07 PM |
| 0 | Misandry hurts women.“Men vote for Trump and it’s WOMENS FAULT because feminists are mean”. What happened to taking accountability for your actions? Why are you blaming women you don’t know for your choices? And you’re making a crazy comparison. Because misandry, which no reasonable or non sexist person would say is representative of feminism at large, is not something that is back by a system that violates and harms men. Whereas misogyny is enabled at the institutional level. We live under a world that is still, ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/24 02:43 PM |
| 1 | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winI’m not really suggesting that. And sure, higher earners or people who have more wealth will have more of a buffer to offset the impact of most negative policies/changes/administrations. We’re talking about what these parties represent for the bulk of voters, people who aren’t elites and aren’t in a certain category of privileges. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/24 12:45 AM |
| 5 | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winIt’s crazy because in a sense, if you’re looking at the “neutral” left to right political spectrum, and where you would assume the Democratic Party would be placed, a lot of those individuals and that same elitism is not compatible with the brand of leftism they claim to be. I mean, I’m generally of a very “eat the rich” variety of thinking, and I think wealth inequality and social mobility are always huge issues, but anyone really would see that this current vibe of democrats is very alienating… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 11:32 PM |
| 6 | q4w: what is a skill that you learned that makes you insanely hot?Cooking/baking is a go-to that can go both ways. I am the grilled in relationships, I don’t trust another person with my meat. But something I do that has impressed guys is flipping/refurbishing antiques. From small little lamps to fully flipping furniture, I’ve even done some restoration work and have some experience from being around construction a lot while growing up. I do all sorts of crafts parallel to that. I’ve had lots of guys be impressed by this actually and it’s been great for discus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 07:23 PM |
| 3 | What dating standards are fair for women to hold?Well but the “other gender” does say a lot and some people will just shut that down and not care. And people can listen and decide how they want to act and understand what they’re dealing with - or they can get into the resentful narrative that some people in subreddits like this do because they refuse to socialize positively and fairly with other human beings. So it is guys who care! They don’t have to be unreasonably hot or look a specific way. And they’re getting it. Caring is already a huge … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 07:09 PM |
| 2 | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winAgain, you using fringe radical examples to justify being hateful is the equivalent of someone saying “you’re a misogynistic basement dweller who resents women because of his perceived lack of luck in life and jerks off to posters of Tate while claiming no homo” for simply being right/conservative/red/trad etc. Can you send me an example of a feminist protest against men’s shelters? I’m not finding anything news related to this. I mean real things, not just twitter chatter. And I’d love to know … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 07:00 PM |
| – | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winYou’re right about us being hardcore screwed but, something like that is going to incentivize opposition, be it democrats or something entirely different. We’ll be cooked for a while, you’re right. It’s going to suck for at least a few years, but that’s kind of exactly what had to happen to make people react. At the same time, a lot of the people that voted for him may start to feel actual consequences to their own actions and views. Democrats were too comfortable with an overall leftist leaning… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winYou are making a generalization in saying feminist see all men as rapists. That’s literally a generalization. And it’s also a generalization that’s biased and skewed. I’m not sure what you’re suggesting another it endangering you. What is feminism doing to put men like you in danger or what do you think feminism intends to do to men? Or do you specifically mean in regards to a false accusation of rape? I don’t understand how the average man (in which case you’re again generalizing) is deliberate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winI don’t expect bears to care about people, care about society, care about people’s issues, and not hate people based on gender. But somehow those standards are too high to place on certain types of people, which in guessing you’d fall into. So at this rate, maybe it’s fair to expect your very specific niche brand of men to be as competent and reliable as bears. We can a few interesting groups of women in there too. I personally wouldn’t be too proud about reducing this argument to something abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 06:23 PM |
| 1 | What dating standards are fair for women to hold?That’s true, and a lot of women also are very comfortable engaging in sex more casually and are way more “try it and see” with sex than others. Some women are very open to different encounters and aren’t too bothered with certain requirements. But in general, there are things that explain why women generally are less motivated to engage in sex casually. There are considerations that don’t let them just go for it and enjoy any random encounter. If I felt the things I mentioned were more immediate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 06:14 PM |
| 17 | What dating standards are fair for women to hold?I won’t just say casual intimacy is only for a subset of “clearly desirable men”. The main thing that keeps women from engaging in sex more casually is the low reward vs risk and effort. I wouldn’t be compelled to engage in casual sex with a man just because he’s more attractive than others. Him being “more attractive” doesn’t translate to making “casual hookup” more attractive. What would do that is someone who, in addition to being physically attractive (in the same way I’d consider any guy in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 05:44 PM |
| – | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winThe democrats have been extremely weak at the party level for almost a decade. Their lack of response to seeing a consolidation of Trump republicans is baffling. They needed to step their pussies up, and didn’t. While plenty of people will remain as “leftists”, they’ll not be as incentivized by the Democratic Party and will only vote on the basis of convenience and aligned issues. Even for women’s issues, the Democratic Party had a very weak response, failed at fundamental things. So it’s not ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 05:18 PM |
| – | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winIn a few decades we’ll see this shift again, and then again, and hopefully it will keep being a matter of “progress in the long run” ultimately building a better society instead of plummeting us into destructive political extremes that will set us back substantially. But the fact that we’re seeing such weird political personalities pop up since the 2016 election is telling. People that the “masses” shouldn’t be identifying with but somehow do. The fact that billionaires (not just Trump) and very… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 05:11 PM |
| – | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winI mean, they’re all elitist billionaires. And they are not like us and don’t care about things us little plebs deal with. Very very few aren’t elites or have gotten into this level of power with legitimate interest in responsible and positive governance. Nobody should be gullible about that, nor much less like OP, think they’re morally compelled to fight on behalf of those elites. They don’t care about you, they are not good people, and none of us are doing anything moral by defending a billiona… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 05:04 PM |
| 3 | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winWhat feminists? The extremely unhinged radical kind that think women shouldn’t socialize with men and never engage in sexual relationships with men? The terfy kind? And feminists in what specific political/social/regional context? Where is this the slogan of feminists? I’m really not aware of what you’re describing. Do you honestly think that is representative of “feminists”? Do you think feminism is about vilifying men and making men into an evil bogeyman character? Because it would be just as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 04:56 PM |
| – | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winExactly that. The Romneys and other “classic” republicans were purged by the new era Trump block. Even republicans with as much seniority had to get on this new pseudo populist ride (even though you could argue that anyone at that level of power is the exact type of elite most people don’t want) or risk disappearing. It is fear-mongering and signaling bogeymen. But I don’t really think “wokeism” or “hateful feminism” is to blame per se, because ultimately those things are the vilified version of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 04:49 PM |
| 2 | Women shouldn’t complain about the current dating/relationship/sexual landscape when this is everything they wantedSo, I largely disagree with you because you’re just throwing out broad statements and saying nothing that really backs them in very incomplete sentences. At the same time, I happen to be a cool normal person and have mostly dated people who are normal and who I enjoy. A normal person knows what they offer and bring to the dating table, and based on what they offer and bring they can meet or fail to meet the expectations they have. Some expectations are unrealistic and stupid, some demands are no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Women shouldn’t complain about the current dating/relationship/sexual landscape when this is everything they wantedSo, I largely disagree with you because you’re just throwing out broad statements and saying nothing that really backs them in very incomplete sentences. At the same time, I happen to be a cool normal person and have mostly dated people who are normal and who I enjoy. A normal person knows what they offer and bring to the dating table, and based on what they offer and bring they can meet or fail to meet the expectations they have. Some expectations are unrealistic and stupid, some demands are no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 04:38 PM |
| – | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winI think even ahead of associating them with wokeness and all that, the left has become representative of the elites/elitism in the US and that’s always going to turn off the average working joe. Everything else you mention is a product of that. But it’s something that typically shifts generationally. We saw republicans as the educated/wealthy/elite a few decades ago whereas democrats appealed to the working/middle class people who wanted to change the status quo. Being tired of “all that woke sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 04:17 PM |
| – | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winYou think people voted for him to protect him from “feminist lies”? You think that conservatives working class Americans with traditional values need to run to the polls to defend a billionaire? Honestly, it’s extremely reductive of their actual struggles and why they feel Trumps political view addressed their needs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 04:02 PM |
| -5 | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winThe average feminist isn’t hateful. The average person doesn’t see feminism as hateful or harmful, and would even agree that feminism can and has tackled issues that negatively affect men too. You think feminism is hateful because people view Trump as a rapist? With his track record and controversies and confirmed statements, he doesn’t need to even be “convicted” for people to strongly believe he is. Isn’t it a further reach for people to radically defend him as a “not rapist” despite all the t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 04:00 PM |
| 2 | Women's vulnerability as a control tactic in all aspects of lifeNOT THE NAGGING | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 03:43 AM |
| 4 | Nothing makes many western women more angry than women in other countries, especially non-western countries, having happy relationships with men that those western women think they shouldn't be dating.No one is crying as hard and as loud as you right now. I’m absolutely confused now that you acknowledge they’re acting like white saviors and out of ignorance. So I don’t get why you’re whining so much in favor of these guys. There’s so much contradiction in your comments… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 03:33 AM |
| 5 | Nothing makes many western women more angry than women in other countries, especially non-western countries, having happy relationships with men that those western women think they shouldn't be dating.Well you’re saying you don’t know where I’m from, yet calling me a liar for saying things specific to that context which you have no way of refuting. So it does make you sound like a little boy calling liar liar with no argument. I’m guessing you haven’t traveled or been exposed to this, but it happens and exists regardless of you perceiving or acknowledging it. You don’t seem to understand what sex tourism is or how it’s problematic. You’re saying western women are just racist and jealous, yet … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 03:30 AM |
| 6 | Nothing makes many western women more angry than women in other countries, especially non-western countries, having happy relationships with men that those western women think they shouldn't be dating.“No, you’re lying, stop lying” - what do you expect me to say to that? Talk like an adult. People are talking about woman in disadvantaged situations being targeted by these passport bros. If you shut down and say “it’s racism and lying”, despite my thorough response to you, there’s not much room to engage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 01:24 AM |
| 6 | Nothing makes many western women more angry than women in other countries, especially non-western countries, having happy relationships with men that those western women think they shouldn't be dating.That’s a very childish response full of contradictions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 01:19 AM |
| 16 | Nothing makes many western women more angry than women in other countries, especially non-western countries, having happy relationships with men that those western women think they shouldn't be dating.I don’t think you can criticize anyone advocating against people being preyed on for socioeconomic reasons and desperation. It’s easy to trivialize it by saying “ooh white woman rage haha go cut your bangs” and painting it in that light. And sure, it’s trendy to call this phenomenon “passport bros”, but the ugly truth is that this is an extension of sex tourism. As someone who has spent a significant chunk of their life living in countries that are popular destinations for this - I can warn you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 12:53 AM |
| 5 | Women's vulnerability as a control tactic in all aspects of lifeI’m stressed by all these silly responses right now. Are you saying that men couldn’t do the same to women, and even to other men? Men don’t emotionally and verbally abuse others? That’s as ridiculous as saying “women can’t physically abuse”. But of course, I’m trying to say something reasonable to a group of guys who will only speak in absolutes and stereotypes that are convenient to a specific narrative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 12:33 AM |
| 1 | Women's vulnerability as a control tactic in all aspects of lifeWhere did I say only men killed their partners out of anger? I’m not ascribing either of these motivations to men nor women. I’m refuting OPs statement that one is more dangerous than the other, which also doesn’t ascribe either to a gender. Overall, I think it’s just inflating the real implications of a loosely coined term that could cover all sorts of issues that are not exclusively perpetrated by men or women. You seemed to have gotten very upset at that, for some reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 12:30 AM |
| 8 | Women's vulnerability as a control tactic in all aspects of lifeThat has nothing to do with this post or my comments then. What OP is proposing is that false vulnerability is more dangerous than anger. You’re saying men are afraid of women’s false accusations… yet denying that women fear getting murdered, assaulted, raped, abused, etc. The incidence of rape, assault and abuse actually happening are far more common than the incidence of false accusations. So again, please explain why one merits fear and to be considered more dangerous than the other? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 10:21 PM |
| 4 | Women's vulnerability as a control tactic in all aspects of lifeSo violence and murder is significantly misreported to the extent that somehow, this “fake vulnerability” thing causes more harm? An angry person is somehow less dangerous than someone who is inauthentic… hmmmm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 10:12 PM |
| 9 | Women's vulnerability as a control tactic in all aspects of lifeOk so you agree that angry men are dangerous and violent and hurt not just women, but plenty of other men. That’s a start. But it’s not as bad as “fake vulnerability”… ok. I’m not sure what suicide has to do with it. Are you saying women who use “fake vulnerability” unilaterally cause this? Also, are you aware plenty of men have BPD too? Since men’s mental health seems to be a point here, I think it’s worth you acknowledging it. Also, what does “fake vulnerability” have to do with being openly v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 10:08 PM |
| 12 | Women's vulnerability as a control tactic in all aspects of lifeI’ve never heard anyone physically abusing or killing their partner out of “fake vulnerability”. I’ve certainly known countless people to beat and kill their partners out of anger… You tell me what’s more objectively dangerous and statistically which one is true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 09:59 PM |
| – | Around 1 in 50 fathers are unknowingly raising children that are not theirs. Should we normalize paternity tests?So it’s ok for men to cheat on their partners and have kids outside of the relationship since no expenses and rearing are involved? Just trying to understand the logic since I’d say both are equally bad, even if the outcomes are completely different. You don’t think women should be able to know if their committed partner is having children with other women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 08:50 PM |
| – | Around 1 in 50 fathers are unknowingly raising children that are not theirs. Should we normalize paternity tests?I’m coming from the basis if both things could be corroborated and the results are available to their partner. I meant that in the case of paternity, ultimately a paternity test would benefit the male partner, doesn’t it? He’d know if the kid is his or not and can respond accordingly. The less convenient one is that if his female partner could do the same to him, and this is in a hypothetical, and they could establish if he has had children outside of the relationship. The results of that inquir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 08:48 PM |
| – | Around 1 in 50 fathers are unknowingly raising children that are not theirs. Should we normalize paternity tests?Do you think women should have the guarantee that their male partners are not fathering children with other women, just as you think men should have the guarantee that their female partners are not birthing children from other men? How is that not symmetrical? The only difference here is that one reality is more inconvenient for the hypothetical man in question. It’s the same standard: are you making babies with someone else or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 06:34 PM |
| 10 | How do you think this "gender war" is going to end?The vast majority of people are able to see their own sex and the opposite sex with nuance and on an individual level and don’t hold onto the nonsensical resentment that the warmongers do. Most people find positive relationships and have positive or negative feelings on the individual level. Those with at least basic social skills and who operate in a normal context do not care about this stuff, and sure, they’d discuss it, but they don’t drink the koolaid and let that guide their life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 06:06 PM |
| 2 | Dating would be a lot easier if men would NOT settle for women they aren't attracted tooHe has a parasocial crush on a celebrity that he will never interact with, and she broke up with him over that? She’s crazy and not ready for a relationship. You can be attracted to all sorts of people. You can be in a relationship and be attracted to others. That doesn’t make you bad or unfaithful. That doesn’t make you less attracted to your own partner. You choose your partner for multiple reasons but who the hell is going to never think another human being isn’t attractive? That doesn’t mean… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Around 1 in 50 fathers are unknowingly raising children that are not theirs. Should we normalize paternity tests?I think women do experience an inverse of this. What guarantees do women have that their male partners aren’t secretly fathering children outside of their relationship? Why aren’t we holding men to the same “mandatory” standard if it’s for the point of certainty and transparency when this topic comes up? It’s literally the inverse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 05:54 PM |
| – | Around 1 in 50 fathers are unknowingly raising children that are not theirs. Should we normalize paternity tests?I wonder what obligatory trials men would be put through to be held to the same standard… What about kids men have outside of their marriage? What about the 20% of married men who cheat on their partners? I mean if it should be mandatory for women to prove their good intentions, you’d probably agree with the same standard being applied to men, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 05:48 PM |
| – | Around 1 in 50 fathers are unknowingly raising children that are not theirs. Should we normalize paternity tests?Yeah, and an even larger number of fathers (I’m seeing between 10%-25% depending on the criteria) don’t raise their kids or walk out. Isn’t that a bigger issue for fatherhood? Even if just statistically. What do you propose for that? I mean, we’re talking about fathers after all… why don’t we test all dads to all newborns if they’re so eager to make sure who their kids are? I’m sure plenty of men would oppose that. Or is it a matter of infidelity? Oddly convenient we can’t test men for that. How… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 05:40 PM |
| 5 | Pedestalization of females occurs when the male suffers from low self esteemThis is what I absolutely don’t get… and you mention it and suddenly it clicks. Why do you think that only men have to impress women to date? And again, attraction isn’t just physical. You are idealizing women way too much, beyond reality and reason. The premise you set up is that whenever a woman is attracted to a man, or interested in a relationship with them, the automatic response from a man is “yes” and women always succeed. This is not realistic, this doesn’t happen. You seem to think that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/22 03:09 PM |
| 2 | Pedestalization of females occurs when the male suffers from low self esteemYou wrote that “girls” (belittling and condescending) are unable to form arguments to participate in a discussion. You argue that women can’t debate and yet you are hypocritical and contradict yourself. Reality check?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/22 03:42 AM |
| 2 | Pedestalization of females occurs when the male suffers from low self esteemAh yeah, because according to your beliefs, women are collectively dumber than you, therefore you are superior? What a miserable way to feel about people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/22 03:37 AM |
| 3 | Pedestalization of females occurs when the male suffers from low self esteemIt’s so reassuring to know that no woman is burdened by being in a relationship with you. Keep up the good work, thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/22 03:29 AM |
| 1 | Pedestalization of females occurs when the male suffers from low self esteemNo - if you need to deal with a mental health issue then a random person isn’t the right person to teach you how to deal with it. Some things need therapy for real and this is the perfect example. Men lack “older male friendships”?? It’s just silly. Any rando with an opinion isn’t in a position to help you grow psychologically just because they are older. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 10:47 PM |
| 0 | Pedestalization of females occurs when the male suffers from low self esteemYeah, your eyes hurt because you can’t read and you are arguing things that I’m not even implying, while ignoring the points I am writing about. I’m sure the comment I wrote already addresses most of the questions you’re randomly bringing up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 08:27 PM |
| 2 | The reason why so many men only look for sex is because women, generally, don't know how to be appealing in other ways.There’s a lot to unpack here. I’ll start with your end though. Sex is valuable, in whatever way each person should choose to see it. However, it should not be treated as some transactional leverage like what you describe here. I do agree, lots of women receive messaging from their close social environment and media to behave a certain way and to perform certain tactics to be “successful” at dating. That messaging also unfortunately tells them that the only way to be successful at dating is throu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 07:46 PM |
| 5 | The reason why so many men only look for sex is because women, generally, don't know how to be appealing in other ways.Or, you like to dismiss women who disagree with you and cast them all as feminist b*s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 07:36 PM |
| 6 | Pedestalization of females occurs when the male suffers from low self esteemIs disrespectful because you, and other proponents of this nonsense, use this “theory” to dismiss and belittle women’s issues. If a random woman says “I have X difficulty when it comes to dating”, the dismissive reply “yeah but it harder for men”, “yeah but women don’t understand how easy they have it”, based on illogical assumptions that basket us all into one category. Sex is easy for most women so that is an advantage in dating? So because someone wants to sleep with a woman, you assume she w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 07:31 PM |
| 5 | Pedestalization of females occurs when the male suffers from low self esteem“You girls” just proves that you think that it’s a collective hive mind. “You girls were never good at debating”, oh so you think we’re all just dumber than you because you don’t agree with me? And because you disagree with me, you say I’m stupid and therefore that all women are. Why don’t you review your talking points and see the sexism and disdain that bleeds in them? If you haven’t had success dating women in the last two years, maybe reevaluate if you talk to them in this way and maybe that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 07:16 PM |
| 3 | Pedestalization of females occurs when the male suffers from low self esteemThey think approval from women gives them value as men (not true because no one lives their life waiting to approve you as a collective). They feel they have no value. Therefore, the “I have no value as a man because women don’t approve of me” and dump all of their miseries into that argument. How is that not a scapegoat?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 06:36 PM |
| 0 | Pedestalization of females occurs when the male suffers from low self esteemOk, so a grown as man depends on other “older” men to teach you how to empathize, respect, and interact with women? Just because they’re older doesn’t mean they are some magical sage. You don’t have to go through some training from a leveled up man to know how to treat others. It’s more reasonable to make the decision to respect people, go to therapy, and socialize with all kinds of individuals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 06:31 PM |
| 4 | Pedestalization of females occurs when the male suffers from low self esteemWhy? Justify that. Although, if you genuinely think this way no woman on her right mind is going to want to date you. That’s why it’s harder, for you in particular. Not many women want to date the stereotypical Chads that you all imagine we’re after either. You simply don’t understand that it goes beyond what you look like. Most women, and well, most sane people, want a good relationship with someone they find attractive (and this is subjective to preferences) and get along with. A ton of other … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 06:28 PM |
| 30 | Pedestalization of females occurs when the male suffers from low self esteemThis is the most accurate and well written explanation I’ve read about this topic. But men who believe this are completely delusional, living in a bad fantasy and they’ll keep blaming their insecurities and failures on the fact that their life is “more difficult” than that of women. And it’s hard to leave that mentality. It’s demeaning to women, they subtract having to treat them with any empathy because women become a scapegoat to all their personal problems, they don’t acknowledge them as huma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 03:55 PM |
| 2 | Pedestalization of females occurs when the male suffers from low self esteemYou can’t make it someone else’s responsibility to “fix” you. You go to a therapist and chose to fix yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 03:47 PM |
| 4 | Why don't women have fetishes at the rate of men?Bingo. So when women try to explore any kinks or sexual practices they will see something that shows women either suffering horribly or doing bad acting pretending to enjoy it. No wonder they don’t get into it - the most handy resource shows that it is something that women will never derive pleasure from. It doesn’t show them their object of desire, or female sexual pleasure. There is hardly any female POV porn. If a straight man was looking for porn, and only found female pov porn with a hideou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 07:29 PM |
| 2 | Why don't women have fetishes at the rate of men?I understand why it comes off that way and most of it is designed to be degrading. They do not include scenes where they give consent, not aftercare, and without this context it seems extremely cruel an violent. And while people can enjoy several practices of bdsm that include pain play and all of that - it is not the same as violence. Also, bdsm doesn’t have to include pain or humiliation. There are so many kinds of dynamics and so many kinks, but unfortunately the way it’s represented in porn … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 07:24 PM |
| 4 | Why don't women have fetishes at the rate of men?I think social conditioning has a big part to play… but let’s consider if men and women were equally driven to exploring kinks, without any uneven social boundaries. Usually, this happens via the internet and porn. The overwhelming majority of porn is made for male viewers. Women are the “recievers” and beautiful, men aren’t shown on camera, usually aren’t the focus of anything, nor are there any efforts to portray them in a way that is sexually appealing to women (I am speaking of straight porn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 04:39 PM |
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