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Men push for the patriarchy since that’s how they find value. Most men don't "push" for the patriarchy. Most people, men and women, act in accordance with assigned social roles they have little to no control over. Changes to these roles require effort from both men and women, just like how the loosening of gender roles and a push for feminism in the mid to late 20th century was heavily reliant on the support of prominent men and everyday men alike. It's just unfortunate that there's no appetite …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:44 AM
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It doesn't help me sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:31 AM
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This has been disproven. Women in relationships are happier than women outside of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 11:26 PM
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I don't think this is entirely true as women pick for traits that make men more likely to be fuckboi's. They like men who are highly masculine with a high-level of testosterone, which makes them more likely to lie when it comes to sex or cheat. So, women are the ones making the problem worse by picking for these traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 11:24 PM
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Eh I think most reasonable people agree that it's empowering for someone of any gender to realize they don't need romance to live a happy, healthy life. This in the most part isn't true. A lack of romance or ability to find love can lead directly to death, it's not like a new toy it's pretty high on the hierarchy of needs for most people. The only people who ever said this have had experience in relationships, can easily get a relationship, or are coping. If we want men to stop killing themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 11:21 PM
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It's true that women have a much higher threshold of social status than men do with women. If a man doesn't meet that level of status, then a woman is far less likely to date them. Typically, men just want a partner that has a borderline level of attractiveness and makes them feel happy and warm, so they think that women have the same requirements, but there's a lot more barriers that women have for potential partners. Because they only care about the basics, they assume women do too, which mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 11:19 PM
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That's a very unfaithful characterisation of the argument. OP is not saying that women love the patriarchy, but that women's expectations when it comes to men fulfilling their expected gender role (especially when it comes to their male partners) indirectly helps maintain the social hierarchy that they claim to want to do away with. The idea that people's promotion of gender roles leads to social hierarchies and more unequal societies is not a controversial opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 11:10 PM
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It doesn't matter, because you failed to even provide it. If it's so accessible, just link it to OP. It's a debate sub, if you fail to back up your claims, you lost the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 11:03 PM
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The difference between wanting a partner and wanting to play basketball is like the difference between wanting a nice guy and wanting a roof over their heads. It's not at all comparable. And he probably will fail because of how women's attraction is highly reliant on how masculine a man is, and short men are not seen as masculine. Women, unlike men, care much more about their partners fulfilling traditional roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:11 PM
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It's overused but it certainly isn't incorrect. Introverts require social stimulation too, there's literally effective tortures that play on human's need to socialize and be in social groups with others. Everyone needs validation unless there's something wrong with their brain. It's literally a psychological disorder to not care about how society sees you. Again, you're listing traits of what a lack of confidence is. That's not advice, that's listing the definition. It would be like me advising …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:10 PM
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I never said I disagreed with the conclusion you made, simply the way in which you got to that conclusion. I mean, you're in a debate subreddit. If you don't care about arguing with people over what's right and wrong, what are you even doing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:05 PM
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Women's gender roles have been loosened over the years, especially over the past 50 years. Men's roles have not been loosened, at least to the same degree. Men were instrumental in helping women loosen their social expectations, but women aren't interested in assisting men with the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:04 PM
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You can rather be wrong for one reason over another, but at the end of the day, you're still wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:42 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:41 PM
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If you've ever dated women as a man, you know this type isn't at all rare, unfortunately. At least this one is aware she's doing it and honest about it, most women who are like this aren't even aware of their own cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:36 PM
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A 5'0 guy still wants to date even if 99.9999% of women think he's ugly. People want a partner and the warmth, love, and comfort that comes with it. Why are you shocked about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:32 PM
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I don't think these were necessarily jokes, they were actually referencing a real case of a man being tortured and having his penis removed. Imagine if a panel of men did that with a woman having her vagina mutilated by a torturer, do you think the audience would laugh? There's also been popular TV shows where audiences have laughed about men being abused by women (audiences primarily consisting of women).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:30 PM
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I disagree. Humans are very social creatures and their self-worth is not at all within their individual control it requires acceptance and success amongst social groups for a vast majority of people. You've listed traits of what a lack of confidence is, not what a lack of confidence comes from. A lack of confidence comes from inexperience and an inability to gain sufficient experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:22 PM
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Women aren't told to "pick better" on the whole. Abusers (as long as they are men) are vilified and victims (as long as they are women) are treated like victims. What world are you living in?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:13 PM
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If somebody asks you for evidence and you fail to produce it, you lost the argument, even if you're technically correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:04 PM
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"Nature" doesn't mean "unchangeable". Our brains are highly flexible chunks of matter that can change through external effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:02 PM
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you guys hate were created by yourselves and often are perpetuated by other men Wrong. The elite has always compromised a significant minority of the population. Throughout history, most men have has as much control over gender roles as most women. Most men are just as in charge as much as most women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:00 PM
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You're acting as if these expectations are always dyadically linked. They are not. Just because one gender role has been loosened doesn't mean another has been loosened to a similar degree. In the western world, women have benefitted from a loosening of gender roles that men have not, at least not to the same degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:59 PM
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Your defence is just as bad as the one for the TRP. "Believe what people say because people are famously accurate at depicting and acting out what they say they desire" is just as unjustified as his defence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:54 PM
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Men don't have the same expectations of women matching traditional gender roles. Women are far more strict when it comes to expecting men to be of higher income/status than themselves and of meeting gender expectations. Men on the whole just want their partner to look good, they don't typically care if they have more masculine interests/mannerisms, in fact there's tropes showing that men are often just as attracted to these different types of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:49 PM
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Wealth + Looks + Fertility was the positive for fat women. Looks were no more positive for fat women than they were for fat men. Obviously there's a disconnect, also I cant think of a famous fat man portrait that is deemed aesthetic off the top of my head You clearly need to learn more about art history, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:46 PM
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You do realize that men had to help women push for the loosening of gender roles, right? The movement needed prominent men and men in general to facilitate the cultural and social changes they desired, and without them, it would not have worked. There is no similar appetite with women to help men loosen their roles because women benefit greatly from the stricter gender roles men are expected to adhere to in the modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:44 PM
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That's not true at all. Plenty of portrayals of fat men are considered aesthetic, for example. Throughout the late middle ages and early Renaissance in particular, portraits of fat men were popular. Many people considered them to have a particularly aesthetic appearance, particularly because plumpness represented wealth and power. Similar as to how the image of a plump woman in some cultures represented motherhood and fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:08 PM
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People are saying women in this thread but I don't think that's true if you're comparing two peak, natural bodies (no makeup, clothes, etc). Men have naturally harder, more agile bodies and stronger facial/body features. People mix up sexual attraction with aesthetics a lot. Similarly, if men spent as much time on their faces and bodies that women did, they would equally be of a superior aesthetic. The Ancient Greeks were on to something.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:32 AM
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You spelt the word wrong. Don't blame me for your poor grasp of the English language.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:47 PM
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Excuse me?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:09 PM
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I never disagreed, but the amount of conditions the love is based upon is very different for men and women. Men expect far less of their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 03:47 PM
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I gave you a study that was recent, and you said it was too recent due to the pandemic. Now I give you one that was older, now you are saying it's now old. I have proven you wrong in every category: pre-pandemic and mid/post-pandemic hours worked. No matter what I'll show you, you'll always have an invalid excuse as to why it's wrong with no further justification. You simply aren't capable of excepting that you are wrong, even when evidence is provided in two separate studies that show that I am…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:34 PM
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That's incredibly shallow and not true. Have you been in a relationship- because most women feel like they do a bunch of unacknowledged work in the home. Yet accounting for all housework, including child care, men still work more hours than women. Yet you never hear about men's unacknowledged labour, as usual women have the be the victims despite working fewer hours than men overall including housework/childcare. So saying you want someone just attractive, but would be perfectly fine if she coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:51 PM
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My dude. That's a pandemic study. Where a bunch of women quit their jobs to stay at home with the kids because they had to? And a bunch of people lost their jobs. And it's not reflective of actual non-pandemic life. Both men and women suffered approximately a 3% drop in labour force participation during the pandemic. Whilst more women than men dropped out, it still wasn't a significant enough number to affect the study. And even if it was, labour force participation amongst women is still down i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:46 PM
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Do you think my claim is wrong? If so, prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:30 PM
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I meant unconditional love in a romantic/sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:30 PM
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I can claim that there's no evidence a sizeable portion of nice guys act this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:51 AM
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So in the US the service industry is a majority of jobs. It's not as if all men are construction workers. No, but more working hours are correlated with all sorts of illnesses, partially heart-related issues born from stress. You don't have to work in a mine for an increased exposure to potential danger. And the study factoring in chores does not factor in childcare. The study that I am referring too does, and men still work more per week than women not only factoring in child care but any care …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:48 AM
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The nice guy isn't always unattractive, but is almost always at least not attractive to the person that is making the claim that the guy they are referring to is a "nice guy". After all, these claims are almost always made after a rejection has taken place. Many nice guys aren't pretending to be nice, they are simply nice guys who women aren't attracted to but are marked with this nefarious term in order to discredit any potential guilt the woman has when it comes to rejecting them. My point is …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:33 AM
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Sorry, I misread your comment. I thought you were saying that men don't utilize niceness as the main solution to be successful in their dating lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:29 AM
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Women's love for men is generally conditional on that man's ability to fit in with in much stricter gender expectations than what a man expects from a woman. A man's status and income are important to women to the point where higher-earning women who can easily support a partner still wants a partner that earns more than them or is seen as having higher status. Men just want a woman with a baseline attractiveness that makes them feel good. The idea that both men and women have the same level of …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:27 AM
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Most "nice guys" aren't pretending to be nice, they are just not attractive to those who reject them so the person rejecting has to make up an excuse as to why the moral character of the person they have rejected is wrong as to not feel bad for the person they rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:03 PM
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And men are more likely to be working harder, more dangerous and more stressful jobs with more hours. In fact, when combining non-housework and housework, men work more hours than women on average, so the idea that women do more emotional labour overall is just not true. Outside of love, women benefit more from relationships than men. That is a statistical fact. Men do more work overall, have more strict expectations of social status and income, and are more expected to conform to traditional ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:56 PM
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The thing to add on to that is that women's dislike of men who have personality traits that are associated with femininity does not necessarily run the other direction. Men are more open to women who act in ways that aren't necessarily feminine as long as they have a baseline level of attractiveness. This shows the primary driving force behind gender roles in society, at least when it comes to dating, is women, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:50 PM
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Being a nice, normal person is now manipulative. Lmao you couldn't make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:47 PM
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Many do, and those who don't are that way because it doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:45 PM
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The most privileged group usually makes up excuses as to why the most affected group's problems don't exist, or at the very least attempt to disparage the complainant's character, in order to excuse the issues they face without having to address those issues. It's because these issues benefit them. Most of the time they do it without even realizing it, convincing themselves that they are in the right. This is when the concept of men's rights are often disparaged and mocked by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:41 PM
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All women's love is based on what their man can do for them. There is no such thing as unconditional love.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:37 PM
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Most women marry up when it comes to income. Only through their personal choice of having a child does this drastically affect their own finances. Without kids, women would be in a worse financial position single than with a partner on average. Also, on average the burden is more on the man than the woman. Combining house and non house work, men work more hours on average than their partners. This alone proves that women have the better deal than their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:36 PM
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There's a certain point where you have to ask yourself if it's even worth it being in a relationship when you can't be vulnerable or be yourself in front of your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:34 PM
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Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:05 PM
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What you want is irrelevant, I'm talking about general trends. As women make their own money, their partner’s money matters less and less This is statistically not the case. Women of higher incomes still want men that exceed their own incomes, even if they already earn far more than enough for a comfortable life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:52 PM
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Say that I make the claim that black people are more likely to be in poverty than white people. Do you think the existence of rich black people changes that fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:51 PM
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That's my point. Women want their men to be capable of success with other women, but make the choice to be monogamous. The need for social proofing for women is high when it comes to relationships because social status in their partner is more important than pretty much everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:48 PM
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There are differences, but there are still general expectations amongst women that men hold higher social status and have a higher income than themselves, as well as the expectation that their partner's perceived masculinity is maintained. Women are much more strict when it comes to traditional gender expectations of their partners than vice versa. The loosening of gender roles that women have benefitted from has not gone the other way to the same extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:14 PM
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Perhaps it's because not every exception breaks the rule. There are probably hundreds of thousands of men who like fat women, but this doesn't mean that there's not a general consensus amongst men over the preferred body types of their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 04:33 PM
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That's the complete opposite end of the spectrum. There's a major gap between major success with women and an incel that most men fit in somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 04:08 PM
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Sounds like you want a man who would be successful with other women if he wanted to be, but is monogamous so chooses not too. This doesn't change the fact that women want men who are swooned over by other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 04:08 PM
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But this is only in terms of looks. In terms of personality, status, and the desire for men who act within the socially accepted boundaries of masculinity, women are much less varied.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 04:06 PM
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Or maybe that socialization has enabled the average desires of women to be toxic to men. Similar to how men's desire for their partner was extremely toxic 60 years ago, but has since changed. Attraction is inherently linked to culture and is driven by socialisation. It is not separate to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 04:03 PM
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This isn't true because women want their man to exceed them in many ways (confidence, social status, income, etc). Just not in terms of looks. Men do want to date the female version of themselves. Women don't want to date the male version of themselves. That's the primary issue when it comes to inequality in dating between women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 03:56 PM
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Depends on how wide that income bracket is. Women are statistically much more likely to marry up in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 03:53 PM
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That's true, but they want somebody who could easily access multiple women if he wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 03:51 PM
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Women judge men more harshly based on their perceived masculinity than vice versa. A woman may have to look feminine to be considered attractive, but not necessarily act feminine. If you're around gaming/engineering circles you know that the cute girl isn't seen as less attractive because she has masculine hobbies/behaviour, and in some cases is seen as MORE attractive. There's literally a trope that describes this. With men, it's not enough to look masculine, but you also need to act masculine.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 03:50 PM
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People argue a lot of things. I'm talking about what YOU think. Do you think that women mature faster than men? If so, we can go from there. If you're arguing a point from what other people think, then why? It's not your opinion so you're arguing for something that you don't agree with. That makes no sense. I argued with each point I disagree with, I'm not going to argue with everything you say if there are some things I might agree with just for the sake of arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:29 AM
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Broadly yeah, heterosexual women want masculine traits in men in the same men want feminine traits in women. What’s the issue? The issue is you're wrong. Women do want masculine traits in men, but men don't necessarily want feminine traits in women. At least, nowhere near at the same intensity than women want masculine traits in men. A well-spoken, ambitious woman who likes gaming and other hobbies that are mainly seen as being male dominant are the dream girl for many men, so much so that there…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:24 AM
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Social status/masculinity matters more than looks/height to women. Height only works as an attractive trait because it has perceived positive correlations with masculinity. Women are just much more likely to want their partner to adhere to strict gender roles than men are with their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:18 AM
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Your argument falls flat. The very existence of age gap relationships proves that men are expected to be more mature/literate than the woman in the relationship. Unless you think the average 21 year old woman is more mature and literate than the average 40 year old man, then you're just being sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:15 AM
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Sounds like two separate people that you are conflating. The idea that older women have much more trouble dating when compared to men is laughable. Society deems women more worthy than men at every age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:14 AM
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I would just call it more accepting. Personally, I don't think that neurotypical people are of a lower value as normal people like you do. "Lower" standards, you said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:12 AM
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It's because they are at the opposite end of the spectrum, women tend to have standards that are too high. What are standards that are too high? If you have standards that you yourself don't meet, that's what I would define as having standards that are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:11 AM
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Autistic men are also more likely to be assaulted/taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:09 AM
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The male loneliness epidemic is VERY real, but it's usually driven by a lack of romantic success rather than a lack of friends. Men have larger friend groups after all. Women just like to obfuscate the issue by saying that men's loneliness problems are due to their friendships with other men, when it's not true for the most part. The reason they do this is because they don't want to accept that women and their choices/standards are one of the main reasons behind male loneliness and male suicide …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:08 AM
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A relationship? No I don't think so. Yes, I think so. More men on dating websites are looking for relationships over casual sex. If you date in the modern world, you're more likely to find men looking for relationships than you are men looking for casual sex. You're just statistically wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:02 AM
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Men are also more likely to be exploited. They just aren't likely to get sex after being exploited. And every single autistic woman I know has a loving BF. In fact, I'd say that they are more likely to have a loving BF than your average woman. It's almost opposite for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:59 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:17 PM
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Well, I will correct myself, young straight women have no issues getting into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:17 PM
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Men just want their equal to do at least some of the work when it comes to dating. You're exaggerating a perfectly reasonable request in order to discredit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:55 PM
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This is just statistically false. Young women do not have issues getting into relationships. Young men certainly do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:37 PM
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There's a massive difference between being an autistic guy and an autistic girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:34 PM
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I don't think most men go for women who "inspire them to be better". They go for women because they like being with them, they make them feel warm and comfortable and less lonely. They also offer regular sex. For most men, that's the reason, not because their girlfriend is "inspiring". With women, I think there's more of an emphasis on dating somebody is of higher social status, income, strength, and ambition, whereas men don't care as much about that (depending on the man, for example "old mone…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:37 PM
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It's more about how women want a man that is stronger and more ambitious than they are rather than women not wanting weak and lazy men (although the opposite of ambitious is not lazy, it's passive).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:04 PM
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There's a period of life where being a virgin is inherently acceptable because of the statistical likelihood of you being a virgin. It's the age where we begin to be driven to have sexual relations with the opposite sex. Once you go far beyond that point, virginity becomes more and more a burden on somebody's perceived value in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:57 PM
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That's all when all good but that's stuff you do when you've already attracted a woman and agreed to enter a relationship with her. I know I would make a great partner but it's that initial step of attracting somebody when you don't have a masculine personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:53 PM
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The idea of a man being a "provider" is inherently linked to his partner's perception of his masculinity. The "provider" role is inherently masculine, so I would say it directly corresponds to masculine traits. After all, a lot of "nerdom" is very masculine, venerating strength and might in many of the characters they worship over other character traits. Even "dorky" characters in nerd fiction often overcome their obstacles in masculine ways (beating up the bully, for example, is a way of utiliz…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 01:34 PM
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Specialization? What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 01:25 PM
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Besides a strong jawline, I am tall and quite skinny/soft/feminine looking (without being lanky), and I'm also 6'0. My issues usually haven't been my looks but my less dominant/more passive personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 01:22 PM
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Not had any long-term/sexual partners before, but the women that have been interested in me have met that physical description, definitely. The only other thing is that they are usually quite tall. Not sure if they have had any bi/lesbian experience, but many of them have been what I would call more sexually aggressive than the average woman. They are also usually crazy, which is why I choose to remain single than pursue those options, even if they are attractive. I could've had sex with at leas…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 01:20 PM
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No reasonable person is going to say that forcing people to get into relationships is good. The solution comes with socialization and will take at least one generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:36 PM
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Somebody who is less focused on being the leader, more quiet, sensitive, and emotional, more interested in feminine hobbies/interests that other guys may laugh at them for, a more passive personality, etc. This is just personality differences, not to get into physical ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:41 PM
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Not to the point that wealth inequality has. Just because 100% equality cannot be achieved, doesn't mean that things can't improve. You sound like a grumpy old man in the 1850's saying that wealth inequality will never get better so we might as well do nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:37 PM
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I don't think anything I say goes against the accepted consensus on sociology or anthropology.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:34 PM
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It's not irrelevant in the slightest. The question intends to address his central point: is it just masculinity that makes a good a leader, or something inherent to male biology?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:32 PM
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Do you think women find virgins as equally attractive as somebody who never struggles to get laid? It's not just about how one see's themselves, but about how others, and especially the opposite sex, see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:30 PM
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I agree with your point that just because something is hard doesn't make it inherently a good thing/virtuous. However, what seems to be ignored is how much easier it is for women to get into long-term relationships, which I think is the most important point. You bring up online dating, but what's forgotten is that more men on dating apps are looking for an LTR than a casual encounter. This is just a statistical fact. If women are constantly picking the type of men who are only interested in casu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:29 PM
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Prostitution is legal in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:34 PM
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I mean, wealth inequality has changed massively over the past few hundred years. It wasn't so long ago that private property was only available to the richest in society whilst the poorest were surviving on subsistence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:31 PM
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I'm asking OP because he claimed that the reason that men are better leaders is that they are more likely to display masculine traits. It's far better to be pegged by a baseball bat than a cactus.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:42 PM
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In that sense, "need" means necessary and is completely separated from desire. I think an accurate phrase would be then that women need the community of men more than men need the community of women, but men need individual women more than women need individual men. Women need institutions primarily driven by men, whilst men need women on an individual level. These are two seperate needs and as such cannot be effectively compared.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:17 PM
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Women only need men for these purposes because of other men. If men didn't exist, they'd have no need for male protectors.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 11:52 AM
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I wouldn't call the desire for a partner adhering to traditional roles weaker amongst educated women (not just the elite), as despite a major increase in educated women the need for a man to earn more and fulfil the provider role still persists. In fact, women who marry down in education often are more likely to want to date somebody who fulfils a provider role. https://ifstudies.org/blog/better-educated-women-still-prefer-higher-earning-husbands This is because, as I said, the loosening of gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 11:48 AM
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The world needs more social shaming, not less of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 11:41 AM
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I have opened a Grindr account. Got so much more attention there than I did from women on any other dating site as a feminine man. OP is exaggerating when he says that women don't want men, because they do. They just want those men to adhere to much stricter gender roles than men expect of women. Women don't like feminine men because the loosening of gender roles that women benefitted from in the mid to late 20th century only applied to women for the most part, nothing similar has really happene…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 11:32 AM
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So who would be a better leader: a masculine woman or a feminine man?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 11:25 AM
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It doesn't particularly matter because women who aren't into traditional roles still want a man who is their equal or better. Women who have a very high income still typically want a guy who earns as much if not more than her, for example. It's why women can so successfully take on more masculine roles (to the point where younger women in many countries are beginning to out-earn men) and men cannot do the same when it comes to feminine roles: women are still very strict about their partners adhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 11:24 AM
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The men aren't affected because their behaviour enables them to get what they want. There's no incentive for them to not engage in their behaviour because the actions of women enable them. So if there's no risk and all reward, of course a selfish mind is going to engage in that behaviour. Women are the ones making a bad choice for themselves as they are used by these men. To the men, they aren't making a bad choice because they personally benefit from it and there are no downsides for them. It m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:08 PM
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I'm not saying that the man is not equally at fault. I'm simply saying that the fault falls on both sides. However, there's no incentive for the man to change because his actions work and result in what he wants. The women are negatively affected by their poor choices in men, which is why, if they want to stop being affected by this, they do have to change. It's quite simple, most men who engage in this behaviour have similar traits. They are hyper-focused on their own status/wealth and use that…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:24 PM
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It's women's fault because they choose the men who are more likely to have these traits (highly masculine, more successful than them, etc). If women dated men who were equal to them, this would not be a problem. That's a pretty simple request. It's the man's fault too, but he doesn't care because he's not the one being hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:20 PM
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Or maybe it's both of their faults and we should ascribe equal blame rather than none...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:18 PM
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What about an average-looking broke guy with average social skills vs an overweight woman with average social skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:02 PM
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Women won't even associate with him This is going a bit too far, I feel. Women won't date/have sex with a broke guy, but I don't know many women who'd refuse to associate/be friends with a broke guy in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:00 PM
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You've lost more than half my weight and I'm a guy, that's quite impressive and shows that you can lose weight. I think the average yearly weight loss for those focused on it is around 55, so it's well above average. Still, you seem to be detailing the lows of being overweight without thinking of the cons of being single and in poverty. There's the immense stress of not knowing if you're gonna be homeless, the stress of overworking and not being able to afford basic necessities, and there's the …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:56 PM
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If you’re a fat woman, there’s little to nothing you can do to find a partner. Stopping eating donuts is easier than getting rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:44 PM
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Erotica is written porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:41 PM
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It's a difference, I wouldn't necessarily call it a substantial one. There are states in the US where the rates of obesity are similar to Brazil. France has less of an obesity problem than Brazil, and walking around France you still see many fat people. East Asia is a far better example of countries with far less substantial obesity rates. In the US there's 10x the number of obese people per capita than Japan, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:53 AM
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I have far more dating options then they seem to Because you're a woman. A 40-year-old, overweight guy with an average face would have much more difficulty finding a date than you would. Hell, a young skinny guy with an average face would have more difficulty.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:10 PM
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Why don't guys who are "mid" have the same amount of options then? Women also ignore men who are perceived as lower than "mid" just as much as men do with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:09 PM
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The obesity rate in Brazil is only around 14% less than the US, and is projected to rise sharply by 2030.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:05 PM
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...What do you think average means?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:03 PM
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Again, women control most of the household finances, and make most of the family and household decisions. This is a statistical reality, the idea of man as the "leader" of the household is not true in a majority of situations in the modern, western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 02:14 PM
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If every dude has a story Source on that? Seems like you've been on the internet too much, you need to touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 12:07 PM
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Selfish implies that you are lacking consideration for others, which is an archetype of anti-social behaviour. You can be self-focused and still have consideration for the feelings of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 12:05 PM
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I wouldn't call that TRP as much as common sense. You aren't going to get many people, feminists, TRP, BP, etc MRA's, etc disagree with that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 12:00 PM
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Many are unhappily married women with three kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 11:50 AM
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because men lead most relationships Depends on what you mean by "leading relationships". They lead during the initial dating period by and large because women expect them to, but it becomes more clouded when you get into the meat of the relationship. For example, women drive household spending and are more likely to make the most impactful decisions that affect the family and household. This, to me, is just as much as leading the relationship as bringing home the biggest income and providing tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 11:44 AM
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But only one man would be the leader and nine other men would be in the same position as the other women who are not the leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 09:29 PM
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Can you try speaking in a comprehensive form of English next time?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 09:22 PM
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Again, I'm going to correct you. Very few men lead society. Most mean don't lead shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 01:42 PM
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Men would take a page out of women's book if they had the same amount of options that a female version of themselves had. It's like telling a poor person to take a leaf out of a rich person's book to not settle for a roach infested apartment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 02:15 AM
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That's why 0.05% of men rule the world. For the rest of us, it's pretty crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 02:12 AM
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This hierarchy seems predominantly enforced by women. It's very rare that a guy get's bullied for being short by other men, especially their friends, but men are socially punished by women for being short so it becomes a complex due to the vastly increased amount of rejection they face from the sex they are attracted too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 02:10 AM
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