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I haven’t read every single comment on both posts but I’m seeing a lot more explicit sexist statements in these comments then the comments on twox
/r/MensRights21/09/22 03:34 PM
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Why is a woman detailing one negative experience with a man an “attack on men”
/r/MensRights21/09/22 03:24 PM
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Also because more adult men live at home than adult women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:12 AM
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The only gender based affirmative action for university admissions is for men. Do some research before spouting nonsense. Men have worse grades, grade highschool less and apply to university less than women of course they have lower university attendance. The difference would be much larger if the admissions office wasn’t trying their hardest to tip the scales in their favour
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:10 AM
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Well a relationship is a partnership, which means you two are working as a team and love and respect each other. If only one person is doing all the domestic labour then they aren’t working together and that is a valid reason to end the relationship. Just like with a roommate the expectation is that they pay rent on time and clean up after themselves. If they didn’t do this you would feel upset and aggravated because that is the expectation and understanding of how to behave when you’re living w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/22 05:43 AM
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Well i didn’t say anything about which one is worse. I personally would much rather be single than in a relationship with a man child who can’t clean up after themselves
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/22 05:27 AM
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They can complain, but that’s different from saying nonsense like “I’m only single because ALL women only like 7ft tall millionaire bad boys, I’m a perfect person”. What’s more likely that you as an individual have some character flaws you need to work on or all women are too picky. You are entitled to certain behaviour from your domestic partner that you live with, just like you are entitled to certain behaviour from your boss, coworkers, neighbours etc. You aren’t entitled to anything from com…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/22 05:21 AM
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By hit on do you mean “ask out on a date” or “sexually proposition” because those two things are very different. I guess you must be living in a different reality because women are usually super clear about why they don’t like being asked out and it rarely is JUST because of awkward or nervous behaviour. Personally I’ve never had me being obviously uncomfortable or me giving polite rejections be accepted and the very sexually aggressive pushy behaviour that has become common place today
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/22 02:47 AM
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This a bad argument because when you enter into a relationship, you know it’s predicated on mutual respect and you have an obligation to you partner. Women don’t have any obligation to men as a whole and to imply otherwise is problematic. The issue isn’t even men complaining that they are single, it’s men complaining that their single because of some flaw in every women and that they’re perfect deserving guys
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/22 02:34 AM
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Because from what I can tell most of the men who consider themselves “deserving” have not put in the work required to be a good romantic partner to someone and are in fact not actually “deserving” The other problem is that, if these men are such great people and deserving/worthy of date but they’re still single it implies there’s someone blame here. An instead of blaming economic and societal factors the blame always falls to women. Ways to lower incels - remove single family zoning and structur…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 07:41 PM
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I’m disagreeing with you that anyone is entitled to / deserving of love. I thought that was what you were saying with the comparison to the right to freedom
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 06:55 PM
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The problem with this is that it implies some injustice has been done to these “deserving” men. Love and sexual intimacy are fundamentally different form food, water , shelter and freedom and they can’t be compared at all. If many people are starving, you can reasonably blame the state for not allocation resources correctly. If many men are single, women are deemed responsible for what, not allocating their sexual attention in a more egalitarian way ?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 06:45 PM
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That is entirely dependant on the reasons why these men are celibate. It might be “better” for these men to have a female partner but would it be “better” for the women who are involved with them. I think the fact that there’s no “moral” way to do this implies that it would not have a good result. There’s plenty of moral and inexpensive ways to decrease the amount of single people, but that still may not result in all or most celibate men finding partners
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 06:40 PM
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To be clear what we’re talking about is blaming women for not having sexual relationships with people they aren’t attracted to. That is the origin of the issue for me. Entitlement is “believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.” I don’t think everyone is inherently deserving of a sexual or romantic relationship.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 06:34 PM
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Not everyone is deserving of love, love requires commitment and reciprocation. You can’t compare it to food or water.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 06:03 PM
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Can we not acknowledge that not everyone is worthy or deserving of a sexual relationship?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 06:02 PM
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Why is it a sad fact that ‘men are not entitled to womens bodies’
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 06:01 PM
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Usually the complaining is followed by some blanket stantment attacking women for only wanting 7ft tall millionaire bad boys or whatever nonsense. Implying that women are in the wrong for rejecting him and his sexual failure is womens fault
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 05:57 PM
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What else are we supposed to take away from the constant discourse around male virginity and the explicit implication that this is the fault of women
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 05:54 PM
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95% of men do not know how to take flattering pictures of themselves or construct a dating profile. Never mind the fact that the gender imbalance on OLD, and the fact that men will swipe right without looking, makes any sort of generalisation impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:34 PM
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Whatever helps you sleep at night. Doesn’t reflect reality
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:17 PM
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I am someone who doesn’t care at all, and I walk through life assuming the same for the people I interact. If you have requirements for your partner be an adult and ask directly, don’t expect them to read your mind it’s immature
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:16 PM
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How much a problem do you think dead bedrooms are for couples aged 18-29 with no children ? If you look at the numbers breakdown and take away the ~30% of men who are sexless and the 50% who have had one partner in the last year (in a LTR) you’re left with the men who have had 4+ partners in the last year. I may be misremembering the exact breakdown So going by this logic if the question asked “have you had sex in the last 2 months” the numbers would be more or less the same
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:13 PM
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Wealthy people are on average skinner than poor people. Wealthy people also marry each other. My point is only that people marry others that are in similar life circumstances to them. So it’s not impossible as you yourself understand
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:18 PM
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This opinion only exists online. It’s a revenge fantasy / way to attack women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:56 PM
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It's always fun when a participant in a debate blindly Googles and then posts the results without actually, you know, reading the results. What is wrong with you. I DIDNT GOOGLE IT AS IVE BEEN SAYING THIS WAS THE STUDY LINKED In other words, you just owned yourself. Not really, speed dating is too similar to OLD and too artificial to prove anything You're right, it takes like 5-7. So again we’re not living in reality here, why don’t you try it and time yourself. It's really, really not. Women ge…
/r/MensRights19/09/22 05:54 PM
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Either I'm crossing threads, or you're nuts. Why don’t you actually READ IT before making stupid accusations. I’m going to link it https://www.kaggle.com/code/jph84562/the-ugly-truth-of-people-decisions-in-speed-dating **We can see that there is a great difference between what male and female participants are looking for. For male participants, the attractiveness of the female is given a lot more weight, and the ambitiousness or if they have any shared interset are ranked not as high. For female…
/r/MensRights19/09/22 05:09 PM
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Yes, and it's been provided to you. For the height thing yes, as I said the study showing women care more about looks actually had the opposite conclusion Your argument was that women's looks matter more in the job market. I am discussing ways that men's looks matter in the job market. The argument from there would be which one is 'more.' It's a starting point for analyzing your argument. Surely you understand that? My source already showed womens looks matter MORE than mens already, if you can …
/r/MensRights19/09/22 03:26 PM
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Rich men care about the financial status of their partner. Something the manosphere will never accept
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:58 PM
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I don’t think not telling your partner your body count if they don’t ask is lying by omission. At some point most adults will stop caring about that, that’s my assumption at least
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:55 PM
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Not the person you're responding to, but yes, both of those are accurate when you are speaking from an aggregate. Any evidence ? Well, speed dating, yes. It's been pretty well researched and well known for a long time that when time is a controlled variable, women are MUCH more looks focused than men. It's so well known that it's actually a pretty common theme in pop culture. See: House M.D., S06E15 A tv show isn’t a source, the study he linked actually proved the OPPOSITE that women care less a…
/r/MensRights19/09/22 02:43 PM
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The idea that wealthy men don’t want obese women only exists online and doesn’t relflect reality. People usual marry those that are similar to them: similar age, similar job, similar income and similar weight
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:11 PM
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Explain how that’s intuitive, because according to statistics AND RP logic that isn’t true. Pew research centre showed that 50% of young men are in relationships, which likely means they’re having regular sex. RP men love to say that women have lower standards for relationships, so it’s easier for men to find a gf than a one off hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:13 AM
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He has multiple videos bragging about beating his female partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:10 AM
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Andrew Tate did
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:54 AM
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There was only a historical imbalance in who had children because violent war lords would collect women as sexual slaves and impregnate them through rape. If >70% of men are able to have sex and/or find a long term partner then it logically follows that it’s impossible for women to only find 20% of men physically attractive. Most women hate dating apps just as much as men. If it was so great for women why are there so many more men on the app? They seem to like it more. The only reason male virg…
/r/MensRights19/09/22 01:47 AM
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Let me just make sure I understand all the absurd claims your making here - women require someone significantly taller than them - women care about looks just as much as men - real life dating research shows that it is the same as OLD - the only women that date ugly men are gold diggers You haven’t linked a single real study so you can’t accuse me of not taking into account research You’re making the claim that you need to be physically attractive and rich to have a gf. How is it possible that >…
/r/MensRights19/09/22 01:34 AM
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I misunderstood then, I agree with what you’re saying.
/r/MensRights19/09/22 12:55 AM
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Yeah I’m not able to make that connection at all. How is what you said contradicting the fact women have to worry about beauty more than men? I mean accumulating wealth and improving your physical appearance are two separate things If you’re saying that men are judged more than women for their wealth and possessions I would agree
/r/MensRights19/09/22 12:28 AM
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It’s your personality. Get off reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:37 PM
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Maybe a little less encouraging physical violence on women and you wouldn’t have that problem. Can’t blame those platforms from trying to prevent the next incel terrorist
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:36 PM
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You’re going to need to provide evidence before making baseless claims like that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:34 PM
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My point is simple. Women shouldn’t be blamed for men doing this experimental surgery just like men shouldn’t be blamed for women doing plastic surgery or any of the other things mentioned. Also, seriously ? Expensive homes and sports cars are not the same as personal grooming ?
/r/MensRights18/09/22 11:33 PM
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I’ll be the first to say that this maybe an area I’m not educated in, but outside of highschool I have never encountered what your describing. Obviously some people are labelled creepy for innocuous behaviour, but the extent you’re describing seems hyperbolic. The thing is me and many women have first hand experience on what “creepy” or sexually aggressive behaviour is through numerous interactions so that is why what your saying is hard to believe. The other thing is being a social outcast or a…
/r/MensRights18/09/22 09:07 PM
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Nothing in life comes easy, the reality is theres mean cruel people of both genders that exist in the world. Hiding from that will not improve your quality of life or lead to romantic sucess. This is a child’s excuse. No one can expect to have their hands held through all the challenges of the adult world. The only person responsible for your happiness is you. Blaming others for your failures is a sign of extreme immaturity and mental regression.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 09:02 PM
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There is no “80/20” rule. OLD does not reflect real life for reasons I’ve explained. A supermajority of men are dating or sexually active. Making this 20% number meaningless The entire rating system is completely ridiculous, you can’t objectively rate someone’s appearance and reach a consensus on that number. If what you’re saying is true then you should throw it out entirely The “harsher beauty standards” come from the ridiculous grooming rituals women have to do like shaving their entire body …
/r/MensRights18/09/22 08:32 PM
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I think that we have “blind leading the blind” situation where men who are antisocial with extreme self esteem issues have been promoting this “black pill” ideology that’s spread online because it’s an easy explanation and removes all personal responsibility from the individual to improve their life.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 08:27 PM
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The average woman is 5’4” and would be happy with someone taller than them. How is that unrealistic. Most men would also like someone shorter than them. You likely struggled as a teenager because of reasons that had nothing to do with height such as lack of confidence, neediness or a million other things. Being ignored by women doesn’t mean they’re treating you like trash. Most people have an awkward phase, it’s not the end of the world This is the source, I’m not making it up https://www.indepe…
/r/MensRights18/09/22 08:21 PM
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Being online too much
/r/MensRights18/09/22 08:07 PM
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If I’m going to be straightforward this is 100% coming from a place of extreme insecurity and body image issues. The reality is “incel” is an ideological movement and the only times I’ve heard people called that is online when they say something misogynistic. Men are called “creepy” for being pushy and not understanding social cues. Let’s just take a step back and enter reality for a second, when men act creepy in public women are usually too polite to say anything and all that results is an awk…
/r/MensRights18/09/22 08:03 PM
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That’s probably true, it’s also true society judges women for their appearance more than men. Why are women being blamed for men getting this surgery. Maybe they want it for their self image and to increase their self esteem
/r/MensRights18/09/22 06:25 PM
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Go outside you’ll see average or ugly men in relationships all the time. Problem is most women aren’t attractive enough to take advantage of that.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 06:24 PM
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Why do you explain the method on how you think this collusion happens ? The entire premise of your argument is based on a falsehood seeing as women are willing to date and sleep with a super majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 06:20 PM
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Price fixing is an AGREEEMENT (written, verbal, or inferred from conduct) among competitors to raise, lower, maintain, or stabilize prices or price levels. You think all women are in close contact with each other to facilitate this arrangement? How do explain the fact that >70% of men are sexually active ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 06:14 PM
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No women are saying the “6 ft”, just because you can find a few dating profiles and TikToks doesn’t mean it’s a majority opinion. It doesn’t exist in the real world The main reason for plastic surgery is self esteem issues this goes for men and women. The biggest difference being that women are judged far more for their appearance in every aspect of life: making friends, job interviews, running for public office etc where men are not. Both female and male beauty standards are mainly based on gen…
/r/MensRights18/09/22 06:09 PM
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There isn’t a billion dollar beauty industry for men to buy makeup, hair removal and expensive hair salon visits. At this point we’re not even living in reality
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:58 PM
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Female standards are normal, these men just have body image and self esteem issues. The real solution would be to see a therapist. The majority of men are in relationships with women and are sexually active with women with out any surgery. This sounds just as ridiculous as fat women saying they’re forced to undergo liposuction or else be alone forever. There are plenty of short women in the world and tall women won’t care. This message you’re spreading is exactly what’s causing these ridiculous …
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:56 PM
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Stop using econ terms you don’t understand. This is just basic demand and supply, the demand for women who are interested in causal sex is higher than the supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 05:40 PM
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Wouldn’t that be just murder
/r/MensRights18/09/22 02:26 PM
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What kind of poisons are you talking about, aren’t the weapons people use in DV just things that could be found in the house
/r/MensRights18/09/22 02:14 PM
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That’s exactly what hookup culture is, sex outside of an exclusive committed relationship
/r/seduction18/09/22 05:33 AM
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There isn’t really an interesting story, I’m just really bad at romantic interactions and don’t know how to accept compliments so I end up messaging them later to apologise
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:34 AM
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when you hear hoofbeats, think of horses, not zebras
/r/MensRights17/09/22 09:40 PM
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“Men” aren’t being blamed here, just the ones she’s working with We’re talking about a specific situation where everyone involved knows that one of the men is stealing her underwear. Saying “men steal more used female underwear than women” isnt blaming a gender, it’s acknowledging a reality
/r/MensRights17/09/22 09:00 PM
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Only one gender is know to frequently purchase and steal used female underwear and it’s not women. Women wouldn’t take someone’s used underwear that’s unsanitary. Not to mention her colleagues told her it obviously one of their older male coworkers and she deserved it for living with them as a young women
/r/MensRights17/09/22 08:52 PM
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She’s living in a remote dormitory with mostly other men, they have a shared laundry room. Someone is stealing her underwear, it is likely one of the men
/r/MensRights17/09/22 08:08 PM
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She’s working in some remote camp where everyone is living in a dormitory style residence. It’s become obvious to her that someone is stealing her underwear and she works with 90% men.
/r/MensRights17/09/22 08:06 PM
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The rate that this subreddit is decreasing in quality and substance is astounding
/r/MensRights17/09/22 08:05 PM
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This is mostly a hyper specific male revenge fantasy and doesn’t happen in real life but if you’re asking if I’ve ever rejected a guy and then regretted it and asked him out later then yes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:25 AM
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Most of what you’re describing is online posturing, a lot of the women who say that are dating a man or would do it in the future. People like to vent online, men do the exact same thing to women to the same degree
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:02 AM
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Maybe above average but definitely not attractive (5.6/10). Saying otherwise is delusional thinking imo. You’re going to have to give me examples of the women you’re talking about (that you consider average but that women say are 10s) overall it’s my belief that much more attractive women exist than attractive men which automatically makes female beauty standards harsher. Most men do not even know what women looking without makeup and daily shaving so your argument is pretty baseless
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:18 PM
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You’re really pushing the bounds of reality here by calling him “extremely attractive”. You obviously don’t understand what women find attractive and because of this you’re saying they’re too harsh on the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:53 PM
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You’re straight but you find mens faces better looking ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:48 PM
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Well I don’t have much interaction with men way older or younger than men, and if the few times I do it would be extremely inappropriate to compliment their physical appearance. Women also receive compliments from their female friends and other women for the most part. Cat calling aren’t compliments
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:43 PM
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How does that make any sense seeing as a super majority of are sexually active / in a relationship with women ?? You can’t just compare looks because male and female attraction works so differently and men don’t put the same effort, time, attention or money into their appearance as women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:40 PM
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Has nothing to do with that , a lot of women just need some sort of familiarity before they find someone attractive. Non verbal cues, shared humour and demeanour are all important in building physical attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 07:47 PM
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Not finding someone attractive is bigotry now ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 07:45 PM
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Being physically fit doesn’t automatically make you good looking. I would also argue that you likely have issues with women Even if what you’re saying is true, that you can only attract women “below” you. That doesn’t support the 80/20 rule, it does the opposite. The reason you have difficultly dating could be due to a million reasons outside of women being “too picky” such as: location, poor social skills, no social circle, off putting behaviour etc
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 07:39 PM
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By “quality partner” do you mean for casual sex or a long term monogamous relationship ? By your own logic then the 80/20 rule doesn’t exist because you’re able to find a sexual partner. Maybe you’re just attracting women on your level and the issue is that you need to improve yourself. Stats don’t tell the whole story but there are no stats to justify the 80/20 rule. Especially seeing as half of young men aren’t even single
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 06:59 PM
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Both those articles reference Paul Dolan, a disgraced academic who misread survey data and never conducted any studies. His conclusions are baseless. Vox (a progressive, feminist news site) wrote an article detailing this. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/6/4/18650969/married-women-miserable-fake-paul-dolan-happiness
/r/MensRights16/09/22 06:05 PM
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“Reality” ? Literally ANY research into this topic shows that >70% of young men are sexually actively. It would be closer to reality if the 80/20 rule was the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 06:02 PM
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Doesn’t TRP promote the “80/20” rule ? That women reject 80% of men ? That sounds counter intuitive to finding a healthy relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 04:09 PM
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What do you mean reasonable doubt ? There is literally 0 evidence to point to him being wealthy / vulnerable / destitute / mentally ill etc from her perspective. In life we just have to trust the fact that adults can make their own decisions. Smokers and alcoholics are 100% being exploited but most people are against banning the sale of alcohol and cigarettes “Held accountable” for what ? Do you not realise how the internet works ? Every single YouTuber, tiktoker and twitch streamer accepts dona…
/r/MensRights16/09/22 03:58 PM
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That’s an important issue to address but bringing up which group is or isn’t privileged is also a distraction Historically it makes sense that more resources were allocated to women
/r/MensRights16/09/22 03:36 PM
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The main difference being that scammer are intentionally trying to lie and deceive people and she’s just existing online as a attractive woman. How do you know he’s not well ? He could just be extremely wealthy. This has nothing to do with narcissism. It would be weird is someone sent YOU hundreds of dollars but men do this to attractive young women all the time, it’s extremely common place and well documented. Do some research on online sugar baby relationships. He asked for her attention and h…
/r/MensRights16/09/22 03:33 PM
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What is an old hag now ? Any woman over 25 ? I’m not the one shitting on men here, you all are the ones that think grown men can’t make their own decisions
/r/MensRights16/09/22 03:27 PM
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Typically you should expect the MORE privileged group to have a lower rate of poverty
/r/MensRights16/09/22 03:26 PM
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Do you have a source for that ?
/r/MensRights16/09/22 03:25 PM
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Women win this one. More women live in poverty - per this article.0
/r/MensRights16/09/22 11:46 AM
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Maybe they should ramp up those gender quotas seeing as more women live in poverty per the article. Blaming everything on “gender quotas” ignores the reality that a lot of this increase is due to mental illness and physical ailments caused by working long hours. The education gap is likely also a cause
/r/MensRights16/09/22 11:45 AM
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More women live in poverty so isn’t this evidence that men are more privileged ?
/r/MensRights16/09/22 11:43 AM
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The “study” she’s referencing has been debunked and disproved
/r/MensRights16/09/22 11:41 AM
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Some definitely do. Both are important looks and personality
/r/seduction16/09/22 05:56 AM
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I can easily objectively prove they aren’t being exploited seeing as one of these old men sent her $600 with ANY prior contact. Is it possible to exploit someone without even knowing of their existence ? You’re accusing me of “painting a narrative” by just re-stating the facts of the case. Most people would see an old man downloading TikTok to find the youngest women possible then sexually propositioning her to do sex work for him as a “dirty old man”. A therapist and a counsellor are not the sa…
/r/MensRights16/09/22 05:24 AM
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Well no money is being “taken” seeing as the man who sent her they money had never communicated to her prior to that. It’s not like she knew he was going to do that. No one’s being taken advantage of here, if these men were genuinely depressed and lonely and looking for human connection they would seek out people their own age. They’re just horny
/r/MensRights15/09/22 11:07 PM
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Exploitation is when i go out of my way to send hundreds of dollars to a women I’ve never spoken to or had any interaction with
/r/MensRights15/09/22 11:04 PM
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You seem to be treating men who are 60 years old with stable careers, as if they were disabled children in need of full time carers I don’t know if you’re aware of this but adults make bad choices knowing full well of the consequences all the time. I’m not being exploited every time I purchase candy or junk food. Please explain, if this is just about loneliness, why these men out of the literal MILLIONS of people to contact choose the young attractive woman who posts lewd images of herself. Inst…
/r/MensRights15/09/22 10:54 PM
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No one’s being targeted here, these men are seeking out women 40+ years younger than them for these online relationships. There are many options for people who are severely lonely and desperate, why are they going to these young women who post sexual videos on TikTok of all places ? This seems like a mutual exchange, she isn’t “leading him on” or “pretending” to be his gf. What is outlined in the article is that these women clearly explain their boundaries and what they are offering, these men a…
/r/MensRights15/09/22 09:39 PM
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Plenty of men in their 30s and 40s saying the exact same thing. Dating apps are not a good way to find a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:58 PM
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Then what is there to be outraged about ? Why are the people here so upset ?
/r/MensRights15/09/22 07:47 PM
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No that comparison is actually devoid of logic
/r/MensRights15/09/22 06:17 PM
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These men aren’t being exploited, they are purchasing a product having full knowledge of what is entailed
/r/MensRights15/09/22 06:16 PM
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Is it also “exploitation” when mentally ill people go on Amazon and spend all of their money on useless products.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 06:03 PM
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How are these men being exploited ? They are the ones that reached out to these young women and the women explained in detail what their boundaries are. Also we are talking about a 60 year old man and a 21 year old here. The real question we should be asking is why men at such an age are seeking out women so young for their sexual outlet.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 05:59 PM
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This is just so ridiculously stupid. What do you think the purpose of social media is ? To document your life and get a window into other peoples lives. People use it as a time waster This has nothing to do with gender or dating dynamics. Hard pill to swallow: womens lives doesn’t revolve around male attention. She isn’t posting pictures of herself with her family on vacation in the hope some random guy she has no interest in sees it. This girl is probably just watching stories of her female fri…
/r/seduction15/09/22 05:48 PM
1

Watching someones story and liking their pictures make you an orbiter now, does that mean she’s also orbiting him ?
/r/seduction15/09/22 05:42 PM
1

There haven’t been any studies done on this so I can’t provide a concrete number on anything. I’ve just seen multiple testimonials from women detailing the abuse they endured https://jezebel.com/a-flood-of-sexual-assault-allegations-in-the-porn-indus-1844039798 https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/wxqn55/sexual-abuse-allegations-on-porn-sets-ryan-madison https://static.guim.co.uk/images/favicon-32x32.ico There have been lawsuits filed but as I’m sure you’re well aware it is not possible for most …
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:13 AM
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You don’t see the irony here that your attacking me for not being sympathetic to the male perspective when you’ve been as biased as humanly possible in every way and made it clear that you literally do not care about women getting raped because “they’ve done their research” I’m not affected by any of the issues being described here but unlike you I’m able to see them as they are. I’m assuming you’re obfuscating and bringing up irrelevant topics because you realise the position you’re arguing is …
/r/seduction15/09/22 07:24 AM
2

Plenty of short unattractive men are in relationships, they just have a harder time of it than good looking men. The solution for him would be to build his social skills, humour and confidence. Being insecure, bitter, resentful and jealous is a bigger turn off than being ugly imo
/r/seduction15/09/22 04:15 AM
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This has nothing to do with a male or female perspective. I’m able to look at things objectively here and even though these men maybe taken advantage of or manipulated, they aren’t being “exploited” or “deceived”. You are using these words incorrectly. I have never paid for an only fans subscription, but I highly doubt it is the case that these sexworkers will outright lie to their costumers by saying things like “I want to date you” “we can meet once you pay me x dollars” or other false promise…
/r/seduction15/09/22 04:09 AM
0

Well according to the CDC over half of women have experienced sexual violence involving physical contact
/r/MensRights15/09/22 03:25 AM
1

What I’m saying is that is subreddit is for dating advice, not for men to pathetically whine about insecurities they should’ve sorted out as a teenager.
/r/seduction15/09/22 03:22 AM
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Do you have a source for any of these claims or are just your personal belief - 40% of women are on apps for attention - men are banned more than women for nudity on bumble - strong majority of men are filtered out by height
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/22 10:40 PM
14

Seems like the conclusion is men prefer makeup then
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:15 PM
6

Shouldn’t it be the other way around though if men don’t like makeup ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:11 PM
9

Are you just going to sidestep the fact that your point is nonsensical and ridiculous. Women still wear makeup in all girls schools and prisons when there’s no men around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:11 PM
14

Why don’t you do an experiment, find a picture of a women without makeup and upload it to tinder then do the same with a picture of her with makeup, see what the results are. Men don’t even know how to tell when a woman is wearing makeup 90% of the time anyway. Men are also allowed to wear makeup btw
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:06 PM
11

Women have to shave their entire bodies and men just their face, women are also expected to work out and shower along with styling their hair and wearing makeup. Notice the difference yet ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:04 PM
-1

MGTOW is literally a hate group, they were banned for non stop hateful attacks on women. How does it make any sense to “go your own way” and then spend 100% of your time obsessing over women ?
/r/MensRights14/09/22 06:00 PM
3

No some women are literally expected to wear it at risk of their job. Women are judged much more harshly for their appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 05:59 PM
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Men do care about makeup, they are constantly mocking pictures of female celebrities without makeup online.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 05:58 PM
14

Men have to wear makeup, nylons and heels to work too ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 05:56 PM
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You are quite literally implying that no man has done ever done anything wrong by acting as if what I’m saying is impossible and pure exaggerations / hyperbole. Not one criticism I’ve read here is actually substantial, the article even tells women that having sex out of obligation or to please your partner is sometimes necessary. It’s obvious that all the men commenting are just triggered by the title. The topic at hand has nothing to do with women using sex to manipulate men, pure obfuscation
/r/MensRights14/09/22 05:10 PM
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No it isn’t. They literally defined what “sex pest” means in the article
/r/MensRights14/09/22 03:29 PM
-7

When have men ever been villainised for staying single, who’s ever said that
/r/MensRights14/09/22 03:29 PM
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So ANYTIME, a women EVER says she’s being pressured into sex or pestered it’s a lie. Men NEVER do this ? Is that what you believe ?
/r/MensRights14/09/22 03:27 PM
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Obviously none of you have read this article and are just using it to vent your sexual frustration and anger. This article is SPECIFICALLY talking about borderline sexual coercion that men do to their wives and I’m using the EXACT SAME words they use. In your mind is it not conceivable for men behave in the way I’m describing. Any time a women complains that she is being constantly groped it’s because she’s a hysterical prude who’s making a false accusation, it’s because she’s exaggerating and h…
/r/MensRights14/09/22 03:25 PM
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The article actually tells women not to get upset at their male partner for having sexual needs, it also encourages women to sometimes have sex out of obligation. It also explicitly defines “sex pest” Do you not see how absurd and nonsensical this outrage is ?
/r/MensRights14/09/22 02:28 PM
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Do you want your partner to have sex with you because of obligation ? Not genuine desire ? If so that’s your right. Why don’t you actually read the article, it is not talking about men wanting to have sex. It is specifically talking about CONSTANT groping, nagging and pressuring women into sex. Even while she is busy doing other activities. Behaviour like turning every conversation sexual and not taking “no” for an answer. That is not acceptable behaviour What you’re describing is a complete sep…
/r/MensRights14/09/22 01:47 PM
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If you respect your partner you won’t cross their physical boundaries or try to pressure them into sexual acts. What you described sounds insufferable to be honest. Most people have busy lives and are not there to sexually service their partner. I would not want my partner to feel as if I’m only with them for sex
/r/MensRights14/09/22 01:44 PM
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Of course it can, but I was referencing the article which is talking about men
/r/MensRights14/09/22 01:40 PM
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Did you even read the article ? All of the men commenting are getting outraged for literally no reason. Nothing your complaining about is actually written A “sex pest” is a man who is constantly pressuring and nagging his partner for sex. The woman in this relationship is being groped, pawed at and touched sexually on a constant basis, without invitation. Do you think that is acceptable behaviour ? No one is being vilified for wanting to have sex. It’s the constant unwanted sexually touching tha…
/r/MensRights14/09/22 01:19 PM
-31

Can you see how some women would dislike constantly being groped / pawed at, or having their partner expect that every act of physical intimacy will lead to sex
/r/MensRights14/09/22 12:41 PM
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What exactly do you want? Your female partner to have sex with you every time you request it of obligation ? Are women allowed to say no at all ever ?
/r/MensRights14/09/22 11:53 AM
1

I have no idea what platform you’re referring to but on subreddits populated by mostly men, they constantly insult and degrade single mothers, promiscuous women, older women and overweight women with NO consequences. Of course on other platforms / subreddits men are rightfully attacked for saying those things Even on the biggest subreddits men state all the time how they would not date a single mother or a fat women, no consequences. I’ll agree though that society is biased in favour of female b…
/r/seduction14/09/22 11:35 AM
1

You actually believe you can be accused of being a creep for just SPEAKING to a woman in public. Have you ever seen this happen ?
/r/seduction14/09/22 11:22 AM
1

I’m sorry, who exactly is holding a gun to the head of these young men “forcing” them to pay for cam girls and OF ? Are they not “willingly choosing” to purchase a product “out of their own free will”. Your absurd level of bias is blatantly clear here, OF doesn’t exploit men, there is no deception involved. The men are well aware they are purchasing a product and have FULL AND COMPLETE knowledge of the rules of the exchange Compared to porn companies that REGULARLY LIE to women about the terms o…
/r/seduction14/09/22 11:16 AM
0

Are you really telling me that if you ask a woman “do you need to be physically attracted to the people you date?” She’s going to say ‘no’ to that? It doesn’t need to be stated because it’s self evident. Men are called bad people for constantly insulting and making jokes about overweight women and single moms. If I had a dollar for every time i saw men call a woman a “land whale” I’d never have to work again
/r/seduction14/09/22 10:58 AM
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Yes because men who aren’t tall handsome or rich have never had sex ever in all of human history
/r/seduction14/09/22 05:43 AM
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First of all what is a “precedence order”, second of course women are going to give advice on communication and other things because men can’t easily change their height, looks or wealth. Its a very achievable goal to work on that will improve your dating success. It’s not productive to obsess over things about yourself you can’t change. Finally men have just as many ridiculous requirements for who they want to date, just because you have incredibly low standards doesn’t mean all men do. Even th…
/r/seduction14/09/22 05:39 AM
1

I suggest going outside more and learning how people actually interact with each other
/r/seduction14/09/22 05:32 AM
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Even if the women you approach IRL are uncomfortable or annoyed they’ll probably just be polite out of fear or social conditioning
/r/seduction14/09/22 05:32 AM
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I would recommend against straight up propositioning complete strangers without building some rapport first. It feels too shallow, uncomfortable, and sleazy
/r/seduction14/09/22 05:28 AM
6

You think women will never admit that they prefer attention from attractive men? How is this not just common sense
/r/seduction14/09/22 05:27 AM
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Why do you have to constantly state this as some “gotcha” against women. It’s not a novel concept that people are more receptive to romantic attention from those they are attracted to. Goes for both genders equally, women are not unique in this. It’s like constantly crying that you’re too short to be a supermodel. Yes life is unfair, well done for finally realising
/r/seduction14/09/22 05:25 AM
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Called a creep for speaking to a women in public ? Are you being serious ?
/r/seduction14/09/22 05:22 AM
2

It may be idealistic but it’s not hypocrisy to want to be treated with respect and dignity while still being a sexworker or promiscuous. Men are the ones that create that industry, sexually exploit young women and then profit off it. Men are the ones that consume the content and then turn around and harass and degrade women for providing a service for them. Men are the ones that will lie and manipulate to have sex with women then think less of her for it. That is the only hypocrisy here. You onl…
/r/seduction14/09/22 01:43 AM
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It’s so interesting how men will constantly attack Only Fans but never the porn industry, I guess rape, sexual exploitation and abuse of women for profit and male sexual gratification is fine but when women start making money of their bodies that crosses a line
/r/seduction14/09/22 01:34 AM
4

Not an excuse to attack women for having sexual like OP is doing
/r/seduction14/09/22 01:32 AM
1

You’re accusing me of being “incapable of debating” yet I’m trying to critically engage with what’s being said and all you’re doing is throwing insults. You haven’t made a single argument at all or a coherent thought. You’re basically saying: “you’re wrong” “how” “because I said so”. It’s childish
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/22 04:39 PM
1

Pretty convenient that nobody can answer that then I guess that’s the end of it. The entire premise of this argument is that men are more compassionate, understanding and affectionate to women then vice versa. Something I don’t think there is any evidence to substantiate at all especially in intimate relationships.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/22 04:16 PM
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Where are these millions of men saying this ? Because I’ve only heard it from self proclaimed misogynists. I also never said it doesn’t happen I bet if you asked 100 women and men “when you need emotional support do you go to your male friends or female friend” 99% would say female friends. People of both genders are selfish but studies show women are more empathetic, charitable and kind. It is also a well known phenomenon that men like to trauma dump on random women and use them as a therapist …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:46 PM
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I have never encountered this and I doubt anyone believes it’s a good idea to go to a young man first for any emotional problems or support. Statistically speaking young men are much more likely to earn less money and live with their parents than young women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 01:59 PM
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That is just male entitlement, they think that if they are just friends with a women and she’s not sleeping with him then she’s using him. In reality women are much better friends to have
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:34 PM
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So true, women only exist to ejaculate inside of and to use men. Make sure to say that any time a female employer/coworker/doctor tries to interact with you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:01 PM
2

You think your mother never breastfed you in public ? You think she ran to a shoe closet or a toilet stall every time ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:25 AM
1

There is nothing wrong with women being topless or showing their breasts in public or on social media. Andrew rate is a misogynist and encouraged violence against women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:23 AM
1

You haven’t even demonstrated what is wrong with only fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:18 AM
4

Very interesting the psychology behind this. Men fearing and resenting their own sexuality which they project onto women and blame the women for them not being able to control themselves. Women should be allowed to be topless just like men are. You shouldn’t look at a topless women and immediately think that she’s sexually available to you. Women exist as human beings not sex dolls The main issue with pornography is sexual abuse and exploration of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:14 AM
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Basically everything I’ve ever heard him say. First thing that comes to mind is: why would you spend time with a woman if you’re not fucking her
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:52 AM
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This is only because the modern patriarchal society punishes men for being affectionate with each other and discourages all forms of emotional intimacy between men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:50 AM
4

The expectations are different but equally hard to achieve
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:49 AM
1

When was the last time TATE spoke about any these issues
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:48 AM
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The extreme misogyny and misandry
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:46 AM
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There are just so many things wrong with what your saying it’s hard to believe. First of all your original comment is a straight up defence and encouragement for violence against women for the crime of “isolating men”, “depriving them of attention” and “selfishly avoiding giving them attention”. This is the exact same logic incel school shooters use before committing mass murder. Second I am absolutely not convinced that women receive more romantic affection than they give. If we’re talking abou…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/22 10:23 AM
1

Explain how it’s easier because this just sounds like a complete obfuscation in BOTH cases the man and the women are permanently single and the question OP is asking WHY women are making the deliberate choice to be single / celibate
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:20 AM
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This is an incredibly stupid analogy. When you’re genuinely starving you actually slowly dying over a long period of time, whereas fasting has positive effects because it is done for a very short period of time. Women aren’t saying “I’m gonna be single for two months and then stop” they’re saying “I’m gonna be single forever and completely stop looking”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:17 AM
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You’ll be surprised to know that men also have various insecurities and mental hang ups that affect their relationships. They are absolutely not immune to that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:14 AM
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Why is selfish to not give romantic attention to someone you have no attraction to ? You’re saying it’s “magical thinking” to expect to walk around freely without fear of sexual aggression or harassment. What is your proposed solution here ? For women to partner with men out of obligation or self preservation, anything other than that conclusion is magical thinking. Men are not being “deprived” of anything if they don’t get any affection from women. That is absurd, women have their own desires a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/22 02:09 AM
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Catcalling is purely based on intimidation and humiliation, not an expression of romantic desire. People feel free to act more aggressive and hateful when they have the protection of a group behind them, that is all. Men obviously express this behaviour more than women because it functions as some sort of male bonding activity to show how each other how masculine they are or something.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/22 02:03 AM
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How is “bastard” gender specific ?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/22 10:47 PM
0

Your mind has obviously been completely rotted and your making no logical sense. Over 99% of rapes go unpunished regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:24 PM
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The issue at hand is that a lot of men can only hang out with their friends over a shared activity or common goal and don’t not how to relate to each other outside of that. To me the lack of emotional intimacy is self evident. Men are more likely to hang out in groups instead of one on one which makes the friendship more impersonal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:22 PM
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Wasn’t just one guy, I’ve heard this many times and read it in various psychological studies. I’ll repeat what I said elsewhere. Men bond over shared activities or common interests which is incredibly shallow and surface level. Meaningful friendships require vulnerability, emotional intimacy, support, and substantial personal investment. If you take away your shared interest what exactly is left in its place ??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:37 PM
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How come men are agreeing with it then ? This is not some idea I’ve come up with alone
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:23 PM
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IM saying that no man is convicted on an accusation ALONE, if the police are fucking up then it’s obviously not ONLY the accusation that got the innocent guy convicted
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:22 PM
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No it doesn’t. Take away that shared interest or shared activity and what exactly is left in its place ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:21 PM
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I have given many clear and concise definition, it’s clear that your pride and ego are blinding you from any sound logic or reason. There is nothing complicated or opaque about the definition it just personally upsets you. Please educate yourself on what a “metaphor” is. Racial slurs are meant to systemically subjugate and ostracise people, this comparison is insanely pathetic and just shows how extremely fragile you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:51 PM
3

I really don’t believe that causal sex is that emotionally or sexually fulfilling
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:23 PM
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That’s the entire problem, male friendships are completely dependant on a shared activity or a competition. Not emotional intimacy, commitment or emotional investment
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:22 PM
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The question is WHY are they CHOOSING, you’re obfuscating the issue at hand and completely missing the point. The reason that 35 yo is so upset by his romantic status is in large part due to society telling men that their entire worth is derived from sexual success with women. That stuff shouldn’t have such a great impact your self esteem or self worth to such a large degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:19 PM
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Not metaphorical. Both words have their own clear well established definitions that are being used exactly as stated in any dictionary and have been used for decades. Even if you are not literate enough to know what those words mean you can easily open a dictionary to educate yourself. The phrase alone already has a clear and precise definition which I stated, if you were actually confused you could’ve googled it. Toxic: Very harmful or unpleasant in a pervasive or insidious way Masculinity qual…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:15 PM
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This just sounds like copium. A lot of male friendships are based on rigid gender norms, competition and misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:09 PM
3

What I should’ve said is that clubbing is in no way exclusive to women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:07 PM
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Yes this is the root of the problem. Men in general are not as kind to each other as women are to each other
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:29 PM
1

That is not socialising
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:27 PM
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Finding a one off sexual partner is will not decrease solitude. Men do have the “privilege” of attending any social event that women can. What you really mean to say is that women befriend each other easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:27 PM
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Link the research because I’ve seen many studies that say the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:24 PM
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That changes literally nothing. If you’re single than you’re single, the cause is irrelevant. Male friendships are less supportive and less intimate than female friendships, that’s just the reality of gender socialisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:24 PM
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Is all of your understanding of female friendships from highschool movies ? Female friendships are much more emotionally intimate, supportive and fulfilling than male friendships
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:20 PM
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A lot of the time men are falsely convicted because of deliberate police misconduct and mishandling. Not just one accusation, so my point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:13 PM
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Men use sexual coercion more often so it would actually help my argument to include that in rape when you think about it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:56 PM
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Probably true, but I think women are more often suited to long term committed intimate relationships because of how socialisation works
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:54 PM
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Using common sense and basic logic is now “defending women at all costs”. Rape involves forcible penetration which is not the same as sexual coercion. Even if they were the same the statement you’re making is absurd and ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:52 PM
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Ask yourself which one is more likely ?!? Are we acting as if marital rape was legal to allow millions of women to rape their husbands ???
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:52 PM
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There have been a few high profile cases but the exception doesn’t prove the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:51 PM
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You have not even provided this groundbreaking new study. No it limits your ability to have a variety of social interactions, friendships and relationships with your extended family. I don’t think isolating yourself with one personal only is how humans were meant to live. Patriarchal doesn’t mean men bad women good. I guess that word is triggering for you. They are obviously not walking away, case in point the MGTOW movement spends 100% of their time whining and obsessing over women, that is why…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:47 PM
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I guess the “latest study” is the one that agrees with you the most ? Women complain about men not wanting to get married because of indoctrination about how beautiful marriage is from the patriarchal society we live in. Overall both genders benefit from companionship and having a support system, but marriage inherently restriction in terms of social interactions If you’re looking for femininity the best place to find it is in a women as opposed to another man or whatever your alternative is. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:23 PM
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This reads as someone’s school shooting manifesto. Jesus, maybe it’s time to log off and go outside for a walk or something. Touch some grass
/r/MensRights12/09/22 12:12 PM
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Just because men are also subjugated under patriarchy doesn’t mean women aren’t. Of course I’m sure the laws in place legalising marital rape were there to protect women. Almost no one has been jailed for an accusation alone. Vast majority of rapes go unreported and even the ones that are have a very low conviction rate. So sexually assault women to your hearts content, you likely won’t face any legal consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:08 PM
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Most do get loyalty and sex, seeing as men cheat way more than women. Not that seeing your partner as a personal flashlight is healthy at all. The reality is that men benefit enormously from marriage, they have someone to do all the domestic and mental labour of their household, all of the child rearing while benefitting from another income. Just based on averages women are more emotionally supportive and nurturing. By every metric including health and happiness men benefit from female companion…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:00 PM
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There very much aren’t and a lot of women have just given up the fruitless search
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:55 AM
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Not true, patriarchy is about subjugating and infantilising women. If you take away the need for food, water and shelter none of womens needs are taken care of
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:40 AM
1

Very true !
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:37 AM
1

It doesn’t mean masculinity is toxic. It means ASPECTS of masculinity are toxic Positive masculinity is strength, bravery, heroism, leadership, self sacrifice and integrity
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:36 AM
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Women were literally viewed as children and as property, they had no political voice or political power. I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not but no asking men to “pretty please stop committing genocide and colonialism” wouldn’t have actually worked seeing as men had literally 0 respect for women. Even if you took out rape and just looked at all sexual assault or just looked at survey men are still the vast majority of perpetrators
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:51 AM
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It is a fact that men are responsible for the vast majority of pain suffering and death in the world. The examples I gave barely scratch the surface. I didn’t even mention colonialism, arson, fraud and murder
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:31 AM
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It is not circular, you should be able to understand what “toxic” means and “masculinity” means. I don’t know if this ignorance is genuine or intentional on your part. Toxic masculinity refers to certain male behaviors that are associated with harm to society and men themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:57 AM
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Anyone with a rudimentary grasp on the english language can understand what toxic masculinity means. It just describes the aspects of masculinity that are toxic / bad. That’s it. Men are being shit on for the most part because of actions that they currently engage in. Such as casual misogyny, violence, homophobia, harassment, sexual indiscretions etc
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:42 AM
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Your statement that there isn’t one gender that has a monopoly on shitty behaviour is patently absurd. The jails are full of men for a reason. Men are the majority of sociopaths and are know to have less empathy and compassion It wouldn’t be incorrect to say that in America one race commits a majority of violent crime, but that is because of a long history of slavery, disenfranchisement and subjugation. Men are more likely to die in pointless wars started by other men. While in the process of “d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:34 AM
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Men in power are the ones who sent millions of young boys to die brutal horrific deaths and the only thing you care enough to bring up is that feminists advocate for women to not be added to the draft. It’s obvious that you’re too spite driven to engage in an intelligent conversation The question should be asking yourself is why do men not advocate for themselves and have no compassion for or solidarity with each other. That is toxic masculinity at work, viewing men as objects of violence and se…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:19 AM
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Men objectively cause more damage and destruction to the world, this is not even debatable. Think of the most horrific disturbing and soulless acts you can imagine. They’re all mostly committed by men: child rape, rape of animals, incest, genocide, sexual slavery, chattel slavery, mutilation, torture etc. whereas women are much more likely to sacrifice their lives for children, participate in charity and in general be more caring and empathetic Throughout all of human history until extremely rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:48 AM
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Just because people misuse the term “toxic masculinity” doesn’t not mean the concept is without merit. Also no feminists are saying that women don’t perpetuate or reinforce toxic masculinity. Men are so against the term because it forces them to confront the aspects of masculinity that damage the mental health and emotional well-being of them and the people around them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:41 AM
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Every person has value. What is the point you’re trying to make. From the descriptions given he obviously isn’t a typical “Chad” or whatever other ridiculous term you use to describe attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 09:29 PM
3

Are women incapable of understanding or playing sports ? I’m sure you’ll be able to find common ground.
/r/seduction10/09/22 05:07 PM
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You need to relax and just treat women the same as your male friends. Acting desperate or anxious around women is just going to increase your awkwardness, have no expectations going into the conversation
/r/seduction10/09/22 01:38 PM
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There are ways to pursue women in a healthy way that doesn’t turn pathological. Like the extreme delusion and hatred you see in certain online spaces. Once you start consuming a lot of RP content or centring your life around sleeping with women it becomes unhealthy and toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 03:42 AM
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“Chase” implies you’re going after someone who doesn’t want you and is running away from you. No one with self respect would engage in that behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 03:40 AM
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If you start at 18, majority are done school at 22-23
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 02:34 AM
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Being confident while difficult to achieve is good advice. An important thing to remember is that a significant portion of incels are actually physically attractive. A lot of them just have autism and other mental issues, along with poor socialisation
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:42 PM
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The boiler plate useless “self help” advice is not the reason millions of men consume and spend thousands of dollars RP content. It is an opportunity for them to watch women being humiliated and degraded to make them feel less upset about the sorry state of their lives. The occasional self improvement offhand comment can be found literally everywhere on their internet. No one who is watching 5 hour livestreams regularly is actually working to improve their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:39 PM
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I’m honest whenever asked I guess, I think most women are you just don’t like their answers. The truth of it is dating and romantic success is determined by social skills, extroversion and ability to build platonic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:35 PM
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As with all forms of harassment that are expressly written down or typed it is up to victim to determine whether or not the behaviour is worth a formal complaint. I believe that no one would inconvenience themselves to such a significant degree by reporting a complete stranger for innocuous behaviour. I doubt outside of physical threats any women would report staring at all
/r/MensRights09/09/22 09:32 PM
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My entire point is that they aren’t going out and “getting” women. They are at home spending all their time behind a computer venting and fuming at how evil women are. Perfect example of this are incels and MGTOWs All these misogynists are assholes, degenerates and narcissists, it doesn’t help them get laid at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:51 PM
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The reality is these “innocent naive shy” guys aren’t becoming more “masculine” detached or cold/hearted by watching RP YouTubers. They are still the same ugly awkward anxious nerds just with an added layer of extreme misogyny, bitterness and resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:28 PM
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This is becoming childish at this point. You have access to the internet correct ? So if you are genuinely confused one google search can clear that up. Staring is “look fixedly or vacantly at someone or something with one's eyes wide open”. If it’s unclear (like the person looking at you is far away or they seem to be daydreaming) why would anyone complain about that ? What would be the point ? You’re forgetting a key word on the poster is “intrusive” staring. Despite your autism you seem to be…
/r/MensRights09/09/22 05:57 AM
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You originally said that there are posters saying staring = sexual assault. I honestly find what you’re saying absurd and ridiculous as well as incredibly disingenuous. You seem to be literate and have a good grasp of english so you shouldn’t need those words defined for you. Just like every single law in existence its ambiguous and up to interpretation. There are many crimes that people commit accidentally. Is it possible that you could be walking through a store and something falls in your bag…
/r/MensRights09/09/22 04:22 AM
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The reality is that for whatever reason the majority of the time mens approaches are unwanted, inappropriate or problematic in someway, but I disagree with the fact that men are attacked for JUST approaching women in general without any qualification at all. The closest example I can think of is how women frequently say they don’t want to be approached at the gym, grocery store or on the street ever. I don’t understand why you need me to explain the difference between “glancing” and “staring” th…
/r/MensRights09/09/22 01:03 AM
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You’re kind of missing the forest for the trees here. The reality is women enjoy being single more because they have more friendships and closer friendships than men and they are more empathetic and sociable Let’s say you’re an average single women who isn’t interested in dating, you’re not on any apps, you don’t go to clubs or bars and you mostly just socialise with your other female friends and their partners. How often would you get asked out and why would this have any impact on your life. U…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:17 PM
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Just because you can find a few ridiculous examples of young women overreacting over harmless behaviour doesn’t mean there’s some mystery or confusion around what is creepy or unwanted behaviour. Adults that are socialised correctly should be aware of what is acceptable and what isn’t acceptable sexual behaviour. Glancing at someone is fine but staring is rude, sexual jokes aren’t appropriate for the workplace and you shouldn’t be flirting with your coworker. Just because someone women overreact…
/r/MensRights08/09/22 06:52 PM
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There are many ways to initiate a romantic relationship that don’t involve cold approaching strangers. Her and her boyfriend could’ve been childhood friends or classmates for all we know. The definition of “hitting on” someone is to make sexual advances towards them. Which most would consider creepy outside of an already established sexual relationship. There are polite ways to approach someone and creepy ways but many women dislike being approached at all because they find it rude and disruptiv…
/r/MensRights08/09/22 03:13 PM
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The reality is that men should treat women and other men like how women treat each other. Casual sex is neither sexually or emotionally fulfilling 90% of the time anyway Just use your brain for a second because the opposite is true. Men only wanting you for sex is going to have the opposite effect on your confidence and self esteem, it’s going to be demoralising and embarrassing. How often do you think women get declarations of romance ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:05 PM
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When I said “sex-only” I meant literally “sex-only” no friendship or affection involved at all. Most women don’t even engage in casual sex so “having the option” means nothing except that you’re frequently sexually harassed in your daily life. What does the option even mean if you never utilise it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:14 PM
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I don’t know where this idea came from that having a ONS or a casual sex-only relationship is emotionally or sexually fulfilling because it usually isn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:01 PM
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That’s ridiculous, men who are married go to the doctor more, eat healthier and suffer less severe heart attacks. All of this have been extensively studied
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:48 PM
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Most of the comments on thirst traps are their female friends complimenting them. No idea what thirst traps have to do with male validation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:45 PM
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You’re right, this post is a clear sign he doesn’t know how to interact or relate to teenage girls which would only be the case if he was a lot older than them. Don’t see why men are getting emotional over this common sense comment
/r/seduction07/09/22 11:54 AM
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Rape accusations stem from men not understanding affirmative consent and being unable to read body language. Has nothing to do with this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:50 PM
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How would you even determine that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:00 AM
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Good to know that having sex with more than three people a year makes you a disgusting slut
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:59 AM
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If “right off the bat” means no prior conversation at all, the number would be 0.5% for me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 03:28 PM
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A lot of women who are adult virgins have issues/insecurities/hang ups related to sex. This is honestly common sense. Women with relationship experience are more self assured and less insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:18 AM
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What can these dietitians and personal trainers tell you that you can’t easily find on google ? The issue is being able to utilise your free time effectively and having the motivation. Money is of secondary importance
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:58 PM
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Fruit and vegetables are not too expensive for most people. There is no secret code you need millions of dollars to access that will tell you what special exercises need to be done to be youthful forever. Eat healthy and be more active you’ll look better
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:46 PM
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I would just be honest. Especially since a lot of women are that height (5’6”-5’7”) so there’s a high chance she’ll be able to tell that you lied. For a lot of tall people (5’10”+) a lot of women can’t tell very well what the number is
/r/MensRights02/09/22 12:28 PM
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Completely missing the point. They’re saying that the average man isn’t attracted to the average women either. So the pot is calling the kettle black
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 12:06 PM
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You’re likely not a 6, ugly people and men in general overrate themselves consistently. Everyman on PPD thinks they’re a 6 when a 6 is ABOVE average. Just not being overweight doesn’t make you a 6
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 12:04 PM
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boys are more disruptive and less likely to follow teacher instruction boys are more violent and more likely to be suspended most teachers are female so boys have more trouble forming a bond with their teacher a higher priority focus on sports over academics higher rates of ADHD and other learning disabilities boys are probably less suited for “sit still and be quiet for 7 hours” style of modern education
/r/MensRights31/08/22 05:30 PM
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Make up has absolutely nothing to do with this, women just take longer to pee
/r/MensRights31/08/22 04:43 AM
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The difference in grades is due to a lot more than teacher discrimination, there are a lot of complex social factors involved. By that logic the hiring bias in favour of women for STEM jobs is fine because there’s a lot of evidence to support the fact that they’re discriminated against in the workplace
/r/MensRights30/08/22 02:06 PM
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Well women are being discriminated against. In the exact same way that Asian students are in this case, and they have filed multiple lawsuits in the Supreme Court.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 05:30 AM
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Why is it inconceivable to you that there are men that abandon their family once the children are born and that is why assistance for single mothers need to be in place. You’re pretending like in every situation it’s a clear cut as a man saying “I don’t want to be a father please get an abortion or give the child up for a adoption” and then the woman just ignoring his wishes
/r/MensRights30/08/22 05:28 AM
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Why are the women responsible not the men who abandon their children ? The reality is none of the proposed solutions you have will drastically reduce the amount of single mothers. What needs to be done is better sex education, free birth control, free accessible abortions and more options for quick and easy adoption Just allowing poor children to die of starvation to teach women a lesson isn’t a solution
/r/MensRights30/08/22 04:56 AM
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Well only if we’re pretending that every women has perfect access to abortion (not remotely the case)
/r/MensRights30/08/22 04:11 AM
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https://hechingerreport.org/an-unnoticed-result-of-the-decline-of-men-in-college-its-harder-for-women-to-get-in/#:~:text=At%20each%20school%2C%20men%20were,to%2023%20percent%20of%20women. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/men-far-more-likely-to-benefit-from-affirmative-action-in-college-admissions/
/r/MensRights30/08/22 04:05 AM
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Well the preferential hiring point has already been made with “employment rights 5” so I don’t understand what you’re trying to say with bringing up this wage gap. Women are better educated so they earn more, the issue of education should be addressed not punishing people who are better qualified
/r/MensRights30/08/22 04:03 AM
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It’s not “forced” if there’s no deception or assault involved in the conception. Even in countries that have all those things child support still exists
/r/MensRights30/08/22 04:00 AM
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This is one of the most absurd things I’ve heard. There are many people who live in extreme poverty and those parents don’t exist. Social safety goes a long way but will not solve the problem completely
/r/MensRights30/08/22 04:00 AM
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Does anyone have a source for “employment rights 4”. Seeing as women are majority of university graduates it makes sense that they earn more
/r/MensRights30/08/22 02:16 AM
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Even if a women chooses to keep a child it’s in no one’s best interest to allow them to go without. Really are no good solutions to that, less radical reforms could be done tho
/r/MensRights30/08/22 02:15 AM
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There is a lot of evidence to support that there’s affirmative action in favour of men for university admissions seeing as they apply less, have worse grades and graduate high school less
/r/MensRights30/08/22 02:11 AM
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Well idealistically she should be trying to make you happy as well and there shouldn’t be any “chasing” involved. If someone isn’t reciprocating, move on
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 03:23 PM
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No they don’t. They say that a lot of men can make up for their looks if they have a good personality but that only works when you meet women irl
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 02:43 PM
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Jeez, why would that be "because of male behaviour" when we have solid science behind why that happens? It happens because men will mass swipe on every single woman they see to increase their matches forcing women to be selective, because there are fewer women on the app due to reasons I described and because most men have terrible profiles. The “science” you’re describing does not even exist Yeah. So. Who might it be, let me think... mm... girl on girl bullying... all the "hateful words" are no…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:37 PM
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The only difference between FDS and TRP is that incels actually frequently commit mass murders and rapes, and TRP encourages lying, manipulation and emotional abuse. So one group is harmless and the other actively destroying modern society. Doesn’t the manosphere always say that women have is so easy and don’t have to try at all? Now all of a sudden there are loads of women that are undatable ? A lot of women are put off by misogyny. Men don’t can’t about misandry at all 99% of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:33 PM
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Complaints, such as? Woman are too picky, they only match with Chads and didn't make it clearly, apparently it's not men's fault that they are 75%, but some other stats What are you talking about ? Who do you think is harassing women online ? women are outnumbered on "let's bang" platforms not because men are more horny, but because petty grievances someone can cherry pick. It is very much a combination of both Anonymous victimization stats are pretty even between sexes in US. ("made to penetrat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:47 PM
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The way I see it the vast majority of the main complaints of OLD are due to male behaviour. They are not “random” stats. You accused me of making stuff up and I’m defending my position. You make think the complaints are trivial but that’s why women leave the app It is not a demonstration of anything except a lack of respect or regard for the woman you’re engaging with. Even children understand that ‘no means no’. If some women are engaging with men that intentionally have violated their consent …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:00 PM
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It’s not “made up” just because you don’t like it 57% of female online dating users ages 18 to 34 say someone has sent them a sexually explicit message or image they did not ask for. Six-in-ten women under the age of 35 who have used online dating sites or apps say someone continued to contact them after they said they were not interested. Younger female users are also about twice as likely as their male counterparts to say someone on a dating site or app has called them an offensive name (44% v…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:16 PM
1

Yeah I can agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:46 AM
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The majority of men are to blame because they’re the reason tinder is 75% men due to terrible abusive behaviour. Men are also to blame because they complain about tinder matches excessively despite putting in absolutely no effort
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:44 AM
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The guys photos are not representative at all, over half of them wear sunglasses or post pictures taken at an extreme distance, the other half are just incredibly awkward and cringy poses and photos, they all include random photos of mountains or some other bullshit. Mostly it just screams insecurity and ineptitude . It’s weird and borderline disturbing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:40 AM
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What is even the point here, it’s not women that constantly whine and complain about not getting enough matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:38 AM
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You have no self awareness and are extremely delusional, you must be a child to believe in this nonsense. 90% of online RP discourse that gets the most views and engagement is attacking women 5% is advice on how to sleep with as many women as possible and 5% is just basic self improvement. Just watch any RP video and read the comments. Not one mention of self improvement ever in RP forums. The “wall” is nothing but a pathetic revenge fantasy and the whole threat about how “you’ll end up alone wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:31 AM
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Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:49 AM
3

Men are primarily bonding over the subjugation of women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:46 AM
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I’m not talking about the objectification of women in terms of sex because the way I see it every single man thinks like that. You just sound completely delusional. The only reason men are involved in TRP is extreme misogyny, seeing as 99% of the content that gets the most views is entirely focused on women. The first video on that YouTube channel is about the “wall” which doesn’t even exist. If this were about self improvement and becoming the best version of yourself women would be rarely ment…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:44 AM
1

That makes no sense because at least a quarter of the people on a college campus are just employees of some sort not students
/r/seduction21/08/22 02:45 AM
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Are you a child or mentally disabled ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:53 AM
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Men don’t approach unless you actively put yourself in areas where they are known to approach (bars, clubs, parties)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:46 AM
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What are the RP content creators that you watch because all the ones that I’ve seen, their content is 99% shit talking women 0.1% generic advice about getting your shit together
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:25 AM
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They wouldn’t be involuntarily celibate ? You think all of the losers spending all of their time and money watching grown men shit talk women are having sex ? These ideologies are 99% the same really and the differences are immaterial
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:00 AM
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90% of men that follow TRP are ACTAUL incels and fit the definition perfectly. Whereas women can’t be incels or incel adjacent, they’re just misadrists
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:48 PM
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That behaviour is childish and manipulative
/r/seduction20/08/22 03:32 PM
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That’s not true, especially if you’re going out with someone young and inexperienced. Everyone views sex differently
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:52 PM
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Bullet dodged for her
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:13 AM
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I know what you’re talking about because I definitely fall into the first camp of no sexual desire or sexual feelings whatsoever and also a strong feeling of disgust and repulsion. But there’s obviously a sliding scale between. I see a hot person and I’m ready to go and I need to have a strong deep emotional connection with someone before I have any physical desire to sleep with them I’ve heard too many people describe how they experience sexuality falling closer to demisexuality that I’m not co…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:10 PM
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With that definition I would say it defines how I feel but my criticism with the concept is if you asked a thousand people: “are you only willing to have and desire for sex with someone you know well and are close to” How many would say yes to that ? I just think it’s too ubiquitous and common to be a new sexuality under the umbrella of asexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:36 AM
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You are still quite literally fucking people over and encouraging other men to do the same just to sleep with more women. It is incredibly disgusting and juvenile It’s not “all a game of manipulation and deception” because most men are honest and have self respect. That number seems to be decreasing by the day though Where did I say be perfect ? I said don’t lie to people. That bar is too high for you ?
/r/seduction31/07/22 11:18 AM
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Are you being serious ? How many men are even shorter than 5’2”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:48 AM
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How about you try gaining some integrity and respect the people you’re trying to date. You’re way past the age to be playing these childish manipulation and deception tactics
/r/seduction31/07/22 06:18 AM
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I think you’re just assuming that male sexuality is exactly same experience for women too. How come so many women are saying the same thing as me in the comments ? I’m not demisexual I find guys attractive all the time. I even question how real that sexuality is
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:17 PM
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How can you even get aroused by seeing a random naked person. It just seems clinical, no appeal at all. If I see shirtless guy, I can appreciate the physique but that’s as far as it goes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:46 PM
4

I am 100% not demisexual and I feel the same
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:34 AM
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It’s a million things, more to do with familiarity, emotional compatibility, shared humour etc than any particular personality trait. But I think when put into a sexual situation that’s when the arousal starts
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:33 AM
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I guess we’re just pretending men having low standards isn’t a character flaw and one of the worst parts of modern society
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:26 AM
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A story of one individual women proves nothing. The best advice you should give men is to spend more time crafting their dating profiles and take clear high quality pictures. 90% of male profiles need SERIOUS reworking, it’s honestly like sifting though trash. Lying is wrong. Not exactly a novel concept. How you feel if the pictures your date used were a decade old and showed her 50lbs lighter? Men will even say women are lying because they wear makeup which makes no sense. It’s terrible advice …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:42 AM
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I hate getting approached so job done. I’m just saying that the point he’s making is bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:38 AM
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This probably one of the worst pieces of dating advice I’ve ever heard
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:57 AM
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Y’all are the same people who say women are “lying and manipulating” men when wearing makeup and using filters on their pictures It’s hypocritical, lying about your height also just makes you look insecure. What if she’s taller than you or wearing heels ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:55 AM
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How much of that is influenced by porn addiction, popular media, validation from other men, obsession and loneliness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:23 AM
1

Sorry replied to the wrong comment. I fixed it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:23 AM
1

Obviously subreddits primarily focused around one gender are going to be incredibly biased in favour of that gender
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:20 AM
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Do you have proof of any of this ? Or is it just an opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:15 AM
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Won’t work because women (most of the time) aren’t complaining about being perpetually single. Theyre complaining about pathological male behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:07 AM
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Men would be happier if there didn’t rely on women to validate their self image and fix their mental health issues
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:06 AM
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I think that is terrible advise. The advice should be to learn to accept yourself alone and be happy single
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:52 AM
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Yeah I know that introvert women have it easier but it’s not a cake walk it’s still something that needs to be actively overcome. It’s a difficult process
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 12:48 AM
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You are overstating by a large degree how often women get approached and how easy it is for women to get into relationships and it’s ruining your credibility. Also it’s completely untrue that terrible social skills don’t also negatively affect women while dating. They do just to a lesser degree. Being shy, awkward, introverted and nervous is going to make dating harder regardless of gender
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 12:35 AM
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Not true, a lot of men don’t know how to interact with women and they don’t care to learn
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 12:15 AM
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Manosphere has brain washed you into thinking all women want is money and muscles. That’s not true. There is obviously something deeply wrong with him if 95% of women aren’t interested
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 12:12 AM
1

Terrible social skills and no ability to talk to women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 12:09 AM
3

Timothee Chalamet is very skinny. More so than any celebrity I’ve seen
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 09:25 PM
1

You are also basing your opinions on personal experience not empirical facts. We can both agree that I have more knowledge on the intricacies of female sexual attraction. According to you it’s the “vast majority” of young women yet neither me or any of my many friends engage in that behaviour I don’t think everyone sees tinder as a hookup app. Regardless that fact that tinder is 80% men should tell you all you need to know. For the record I am neither morally conservative or anti sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 08:26 PM
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I completely reject the idea that all women have an “innate biological drive” to have sex with strangers anyway. Look at the recent thread on this and see how many women actually enjoy causal sex If it were ingrained in us as you think it is more women would be engaging in that behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 08:00 PM
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You’re divorcing human biology from the cultural and social context of the time we are living in. Think about these factors: rampant and casual slut shaming limited access to abortion awareness of the dangers of STDs cultural messaging that says women need to be on the lookout for rapists at all times men being socialised to see women as sexual objects so they don’t care about their pleasure. So yes women enjoy sex but in the context of a committed established relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:53 PM
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I think causal sex is gross and I’m not on BC anymore whatever that tells you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:47 PM
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THIS is why that dumbass advice of “just date an ugly guy, he’ll work hard to make you happy” is so useless. Those guys are the MOST dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:44 PM
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Thought history since the conception of civilisation women have been traded as property and their desire of or pleasure from sex is completely irrelevant to whether they had it or not. I’m not saying don’t enjoy sex, I’m saying causal anonymous sex with strangers is not worth risk because of the numerous disadvantages. Less than 25% of straight women orgasm from casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:38 PM
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Teenage years to early to mid 20s. I personally don’t think women of any age turn down men for being skinny (within reason). There’s a difference between being “well built” and being muscular
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:05 PM
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Get rid of your god complex, you’ll be happier
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:43 PM
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Yeah I know that, I don’t find most guys I don’t know attractive either. What I’m saying is that female attraction isn’t just based on looks and if they were to get to know certain guys they might develop attraction towards them over time (hours to days to weeks depending) So emotionally compatibility is just as important. I don’t even know what you mean by invisible. That just sounds over dramatic and ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:32 PM
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You would know because you’re a women attracted to men right ? I don’t know what to tell you, large muscles are unattractive. Young women like skinny guys, that’s why every single musician/actor/K-pop idol popular with young women are skinny
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:25 PM
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To say that straight men are heterosexual is only to say that they engage in sex (fucking exclusively with the other sex, i.e., women). All or almost all of that which pertains to love, most straight men reserve exclusively for other men. The people whom the admire, respect, adore, revere, honor, whom the imitate, idolize, and form profound attachments to, whom they are willing to teach and from whom they are willing to learn, and whose respect, admiration, recognition, honor, reverence and love…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 02:12 PM
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It’s physical but it’s not entirely visual. As in you can have sexual desire for someone based on their voice, demeanour and body language
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 02:03 PM
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Most of these guys would talk you back if you gave them the chance. And that's why I said "lust". Lust is entirely physical and only chads get it. Lust just means sexual desire. You only see it as visual because you think male and female sexuality works the same when it doesn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:57 PM
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https://images.app.goo.gl/yMvf8u4xkh85D8Kd6 THIS isn’t skinny according to you. Do they have to be dying of hunger. Maybe I’m weird then because I consider Adrian Brody to be one of the best looking people ever
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:51 PM
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There are men who would fuck anything with a pulse. You’re saying there are men that will use you like a fleshlight and then never speak to you again. That’s disgusting. Obviously they are compensating. I’m saying men can make up for their looks where women can’t. They do get the lust, because womens attraction isn’t 100% visual
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:48 PM
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Timothee Chalamet Andrew Garfield Cillian Murphy Chris prat (before he lost weight) zac efron (when he gained weight for a role) Adrian Brody
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:44 PM
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That’s absolutely not true. You can’t control what your face looks like and how pretty you are. That’s probably the main determining factor Men will also judge women harshly based on race and ethnic features like short curly hair. I know so many girls that have dated ugly guys because their popular, funny, confident, charismatic etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:39 PM
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A lot of men would sleep with obese women but won’t be seen in public with them. “Male thirst” is nothing but an annoyance to most
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:36 PM
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The only reason you think women see average men as “invisible” is because women don’t ogle and leer at strangers the way men do. The attraction is there just not in the entirely visual way it is for men. Women are just not going around observing people as possible sexual prospects
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:34 PM
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That’s mostly an incel revenge fantasy. Just take care of yourself (wear sunscreen etc) and you’ll be fine
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:30 PM
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Same for women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:28 PM
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People are more outrageous over text than they are in personal. Appearance is important but comparability is just as important
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:26 PM
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Just think for a second about what value do women even gain from casual sex: possible pregnancy, increased risk of cervical cancer, high chance of boundary pushing/assault, it will likely be very uncomfortable and you won’t orgasm You’re looking at something and seeing gold while all I see is shit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:24 PM
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Each gender has their own struggles with dating. You’re hyper focusing on the specific areas women have it easier, not the many ways they don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:20 PM
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You can’t work out and have a prettier face, it’s 100% genetically determined
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:17 PM
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Try going outside and you’ll find your answer
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:14 PM
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No they aren’t, what are you talking about. The amount of male celebrities that women obsess over that are rail thin, weird looking or chubby. You’ll NEVER see the same for female celebrities
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:12 PM
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Men can make up for their looks by being outgoing charming charismatic and friendly. I’ve seen so many couples where the women is significantly out of the guys league. The idea that women are as visually focused as men is a misperception I don’t know where the idea that men have more varied tastes come from but it’s emphatically false https://www.livescience.com/5502-men-agree-hot-women.html https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090626153511.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:05 PM
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Both. Both are good. Visual attraction is immediate, it's instinctual, there's no thought going it, she is just attracted to you. Emotional attraction is more thoughtful, it's slow burning, it takes time. Hmm..Maybe it is that you're just wired differently and can't understand why a woman would immediately be attracted to a guy. Have you never seen a woman do that? I’m immediately attracted to strangers all the time, that doesn’t mean I would have sex with them. I know there are women who have O…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:03 PM
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You’ve gotta be really obvious or incredibly stupid to believe that. Men only think body builders look attractive to women because that’s what they like in men. Alot of women will prefer really skinny guys (K-pop, timothee Chalamet) and guys that are slightly chubby with a dad bod too. The roided out overly muscled body is gross and very unattractive Try actually going outside and talking to some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:52 PM
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I think this is a just miscommunication. A lot of women aren’t gonna have immediate visual attraction to strangers but will become attracted to the same men after getting to know them. I also think that’s one of the many reason dating apps are terrible to use
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:36 PM
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I don’t know why Ryan Reynolds and Ryan Gosling are always held up as some amazing perfect men when they’re very generic looking white guys. Anyway I obviously didn’t get my point across correctly what I’m saying is that you think that visual attraction - seeing a man and thinking he is stunning and being immediately being attracted - is enviable and what men really want from women What I’m trying to get across is that that belief that visual attraction > emotional attraction is a very male cent…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:23 PM
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So where’s this “5%” number coming from then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:04 AM
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As always the antisocial misogynist men refuse to be introspective and think their experience is universal. 49% of young men have girlfriends, over 70% are sexually active
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:58 AM
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Seems like the number keeps getting smaller, almost like it’s complete bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:30 AM
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You’re mis interpreting and twisting what she’s saying. This has nothing to do with “fairness” and “being special” or being “hot enough” It is very clear that the men here don’t interact with women at all outside of this subreddit so they just assume that female sexuality is 100% based on looks like male sexuality and that they are only rejected for their looks. None of this is true. They are rejected for their demeanour and energy, like she said: charisma, confidence, shared humour and compatib…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:27 AM
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Only an insecure immature man children would care about that. You really think adult men care that their long term partner had a hookup when she was a teenager? Do you really just see women as walking vaginas
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:14 AM
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There is no “20%” when half of all young men have girl friends. There’s the people who are socialised well and those that aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:12 AM
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So that subreddit is just for men to openly express their rape fantasies towards women and you’re just freely admitting that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:06 AM
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No one’s who’s secure in their self image and happy with themselves would have that much vitriolic hatred for the opposite gender. That’s just a fact
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:46 AM
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Some actually did a write up of all the studies showing women have more varied tastes https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/paknm9/women_have_more_diverse_tastes_than_men_and_it/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf You can see this in the celebrities men and women obsession over. All of the female celebrities men like are very basic and bland. Whereas women find people like Adam Driver attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:47 AM
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I kinda meant like outdoor speciality farmers markets, from my understanding that’s kind of a social hang out type of activity
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:14 AM
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That’s absolutely not true, women are much more varied in their tastes and more accepting of unconventional looking men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 02:07 AM
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How often do you think that actually happens
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:10 AM
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I don’t know what you mean by “negotiated” but women can develop an attraction later on after an emotional connection / capability is formed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:09 AM
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You seem to be a perfect example of the bitter, resentful, insecure men that keep getting mentioned
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:58 PM
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Parties, the park, the beach, bars, clubs, markets
/r/seduction24/07/22 11:32 PM
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As if men will reject a women if she’s hot even if she’s an awful person. Stop the BS
/r/seduction24/07/22 11:30 PM
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Attractive or not that is my worst nightmare
/r/seduction24/07/22 11:29 PM
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There is a very strong push for males by female expectation to be the breadwinner in the family, so young men are often pushed into construction jobs by parents or girlfriends who need to get men to start producing income early in their lives. I don’t know if this is the exact reason men drop out more. I think it also has a lot to do with learning styles and how men are more suited to a interactive hands on type of learning, less so a sit still and study for 13 hours type of learning Anyway the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:17 PM
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If you actually look at the number of 30-40 single men vs single women you’ll see that men are MUCH more likely to be single. “The wall” is a myth, it’s a pathetic attempt to shame women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:11 PM
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Go ahead and look up the male suicide rate now. Then look up the rates of male alcohol overdose and liver disease. While you’re at it find out how many men die from opioid overdoses. After that then decide who’s happier and is living a better life Women go to a therapist and work on themselves. Men put a bullet in their brains
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:10 PM
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Ugly men are mean, bitter and vindictive after years of rejections they hate women. Look at the men on this subreddit. What you’re describing is not the reality
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:06 PM
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A lot of men do this and I can make some guesses why - they don’t like / respect women and don’t care about their emotions or feelings - they aren’t interested in dating at all just causal sex. - they aren’t interested in women who are average even if they are average themselves It happens all the time honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 10:58 PM
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Nothing you’ve said can be proven. I’m guessing it’s all based on your assumptions. This is the comment where I linked the sources No idea what you mean by “bonus points” and there are no quotas for female students. Men can get in with lower grades so they have an easier time as I’ve shown. There is preferential hiring for women in male dominated areas but I don’t think that means men will be “turned away” just because of their gender. Or that it’s impossible for them to find scholarships
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 10:46 PM
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https://hechingerreport.org/an-unnoticed-result-of-the-decline-of-men-in-college-its-harder-for-women-to-get-in/#:~:text=At%20each%20school%2C%20men%20were,to%2023%20percent%20of%20women. At each school, men were at least 2 percentage points more likely than women to be accepted in both 2019 and 2020. https://www.businessinsider.com/college-affirmative-action-boys-admissions-gap-2021-10
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 10:40 PM
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Yeah I know but a lot of people are under the false impression that feminism is all that’s needed and men don’t need any advocates. People also don’t acknowledge the many ways feminist ideology oppresses men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:08 PM
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Man women were literally sold off to by their fathers like cattle. Why do you think in a wedding the father is “giving away” his daughter and then she goes from having her fathers last name to her husbands. Look up what a “dowry” is
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 06:26 PM
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The problem is that men don’t advocate for themselves electively coupled with the fact most people have a stronger desire to help women Feminism has never set out to help men. They are only interested in pushing female interests, I don’t think the anti male advocacy they do is intentionally malicious, it’s just part of the ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 06:21 PM
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There is actually affirmative action for men in university because they have such low application rates and low highschool graduation rates. Diversity quotas don’t help, but that’s the the origin of the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 06:18 PM
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I highly doubt you are being honest here. I mean why go that far but not consider plastic surgery ? If you are being honest, all that time and energy was wasted because it obviously only made your hatred and resentment of women grow stronger. This is going to colour all your future romantic endeavours There are plenty of broke men who have successful dating lives and don’t struggle with attracting women because they don’t look down on them, they see them as people and understand how to talk to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 01:27 PM
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I do it all the time, constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 01:15 PM
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I’ll say it right now: women shouldn’t put that in their profile, it’s rude and unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 01:04 PM
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I have gotten into MANY arguments with misandrist women online. I will call out sexism when I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 01:02 PM
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Of course it does, I’ve never said otherwise. I’m saying men are more obsessed with male height than women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 12:57 PM
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I don’t think men as a class are to blame. I think it’s more just the conditions of the society were in have led to this outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 12:56 PM
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This is pure cope and ignorance. Men have been dropping out of the labour force and not moving out of their parents house. It is a real crisis. Andrew Yang brought up “deaths of despair” AKA alcohol poising, liver disease, suicide and opioid overdose which have been rising for young men
/r/MensRights24/07/22 06:50 AM
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Men are socialized to seek validation from women and are shamed when we don't get it. Yes this is a big part of the problem. The way I see it is this: young men are exposed to extreme levels of pornography which already predisposes them to see women in an objectifying dehumanising way. then they surround themselves with other men with other toxic views never talking to or befriending women. All of womens wants desires goals aspirations get filtered through the red pill world view becoming a cari…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 06:17 AM
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Obviously you don’t care, you’ve said many times what you think of women. How can women treat men better? Ive thought a lot about what drives men to this level of insanity and I think it’s based on pathological obsession and extreme insecurity. Once you let go of this resentment and become completely apathetic towards women you’ll be happier with yourself. I’m sure there are male therapists that can help you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 05:29 AM
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Desires and priorities change with age. You have some serious issues with bitterness, resentment and hatred of women to deal with. This amount of brain rot is reaching levels of incel school shooters. I recommend getting off Reddit and seeing a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 05:20 AM
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If that were honestly true you wouldn’t be involved in the manosphere/red pill community which entire purpose is to shit on and attack women You can create your economic status through hard work and skill. It’s not dehumanising at all, it’s a desire based on your accomplishments. Being objectified means men see you as nothing but a flesh light, it’s dehumanising. Your skills and desires don’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 05:06 AM
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18-19 yo women are still teenagers. If you have no pay for every date/vacation/gift, she’s using you. What’s complicated here? You obviously see all women as evil an succubus come from the underworld to destroy your life. It’s always the broke guys that complain about women using them for money
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 05:02 AM
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I meant “younger” It’s usually not exploitative because it’s very easy to tell when someone’s using you for money. I’m talking about grooming behaviours that grown men do towards teenage girls and how they take advantage of them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 04:54 AM
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The behaviour is predatory for reasons I can explain. There is no hypocrisy here. No woman’s gonna attack you for wanting someone young/attractive/agreeable whatever. But it’s going after women that are 18-21 that can be disturbing and pathological
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 04:49 AM
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Yeah this is exactly what I’m talking about. Men actively hate and dislike women and see that as literally only sexual objects they can use to get off. Then other men in the manosphere will strip women of their humanity and circle jerk about how evil and superficial they are All of this culminates in a pathological world view and obsession
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 04:46 AM
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Women don’t have impossible standards, a lot of men just don’t know how to talk to or relate to women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:50 AM
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Not the same. Men need to spend a lot of time and energy to barely qualify as potential partners/dates. I had to change my entire lifestyle to even be considered as a potential partner/date. Can you explain what this means, what did you do ? Because I consider structuring your entire life around being attractive to women incredibly unhealthy and toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:48 AM
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This is true that the manosphere will melt your mind and rob you of all critical thinking skills. If there is time being invested it is by both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:40 AM
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Plastic surgery isn’t necessary. You should try leaving this subreddit letting go of your obsession with women and dating. Some female friends would also help a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:19 AM
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You just don’t understand what objectification is
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:15 AM
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Men need to stop objectifying women inappropriate situations, like when they’re at work. Wanting an attractive/successful partner isn’t objectifying
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:13 AM
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I would argue conscientiousness, work ethnic and intelligence are much stronger predictors of status and wealth You need to get people to like you to get far in life and being unempathetic works against that but it really depends
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:10 AM
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Yes of course, very similar to how men want to date a girl shorter than them. I’m just saying the hyper fixation and obsession around height is pathological and ridiculous. Like all of us have physical imperfections and things about ourself we wish we could change.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 02:26 AM
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Right of course, success would be sleeping with 3 virgin 10/10 white girls on their 18th birthday every week.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 11:22 PM
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I would much rather never be approached that be constantly bothered by strangers while trying to have fun with my friends
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/22 08:36 PM
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Rape is actually an incredibly common crime depending on how you define it. However mostly committed by romantic partners and close friends, not strangers or acquaintances. I also have no idea where the concept of women being “ice queens” in public comes from
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/22 08:34 PM
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You’re right but it’s the first thing that came to mind
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 08:08 PM
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You’re completely missing the point about why people say to get hobbies. It’s not just so you become a more attractive person. It’s also because obsessing over finding a girlfriend or women in general is toxic and destroys your mind (you can see this in the manosphere men) So you stepping back from all of that will only benefit from your mental health and give you a larger appreciation for life
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 08:07 PM
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Yup, just like you were attracted to them in your 20s and didn't have the pressure of settling down or feel the clock ticking. Attraction changes with age irrespective of wanting kids or social pressure. Is this really surprising to you? A lot of people are more superficial and unrealistic when they’re younger. I’m sure plenty of men and women settle with people they aren’t attracted to but that’s not the norm or specific to women you just have a weird perspective and way you use your words. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:45 PM
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Tinder, I’ll do another 50 I guess. But I used tinder for months as a woman, only ~7% of men had their height listed. They also only put it if they were really tall EDIT: ok finally found one
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:45 PM
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I did it, swiped on like 50 girls. Didn’t see 1 height requirement. Main take away womens profiles are 1000x better and I can’t believe how stark the difference is
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:36 PM
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Not a strawman I’ve seen this exact thing being said almost word for word
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:11 PM
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People shouldn’t say that because it does matter
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:03 PM
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The income of your parents determines most of your life outcomes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:02 PM
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Beta bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:54 PM
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How am I supposed to prove I’m not a misandrist ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:51 PM
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I’m not gaslighting, I’ve said multiple times that women have a preference for men taller than them, are you happy ? I feel completely comfortable telling people that have extreme insecurities to go to therapy and that wallowing in self pity and turning to misogyny are not healthy coping mechanisms. There is nothing “toxic” or “unrealistic” about wanting a man that’s taller than you. There are many male preferences that I don’t have. It hasn’t traumatised me. No one’s given me any facts or data …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:48 PM
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It’s not because you should focus your energy on things about yourself that you can change
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:42 PM
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These accusations are baseless and ridiculous. It’s just happened like that because my school is majority women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:41 PM
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No it’s not. No one is talking down to you or gaslighting you, they are saying the truth. If you’re an adult it’s your responsibility to work through your issues. I don’t feel any sympathy for men who turn to misogyny and then try to justify it with some BS about being bullied when they were 13
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:31 PM
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It tells you being tall is an attractive trait. It’s not fucked up at all. I’m supposed to feel pity that these guys can’t have one off casual sexual encounters with multiple women. Is that some human right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:10 PM
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I am one and so are all my friends
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:08 PM
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I’m sure there are short men who experience that if they are rich, famous or very handsome. But that is rare in general
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:06 PM
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I have heard from men those profiles are rare. Women have a preference for men taller than them, but the manosphere takes that preference and inflates it to an extreme level
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:04 PM
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That depends on how you define sexual success
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:02 PM
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The most shocking one is Aaron Taylor Johnson and his wife, or even the president of France
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:00 PM
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What is this “trauma” exactly ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 12:52 PM
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Actually talk to some women, you’ll see how ridiculous this obsession is
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 12:17 PM
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That’s true for everyone (man or woman) who has a trait that is considered physically unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 12:14 PM
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If you read through this thread MULTIPLE short men have detailed how they have successful dating lives
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 12:03 PM
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They are real but the insecurities are more unattractive than the height. Behaviours like: lying about their height, getting mad if their date wears heals and going on bitter rants about how their height is ruining their life. All incredibly unattractive qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 11:45 AM
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No where even close the the level of RP/incel men. It’s not even comparable
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 11:43 AM
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I’ve come to realise mens obsession with their height is just part of the “black pill” world ideology that allows them to blame outside forces for their lack of sucess. In reality it’s caused by an extreme misogyny and an obsession with women. The commodification of women as objects and mental illness / personality disorders
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 11:24 AM
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It doesn’t matter what causes the misogyny. I’m sure at least 60% of people have experienced some form of bullying. It’s not an excuse to be an asshole or racist/sexist/xenophobic. Grown men should see a therapist but have this perverse idea that women can solve their insecurities and mental illnesses
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 11:13 AM
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Social expectations of the time, a desire to stay relevant / in the public eye, pressure from their record label, confidence / liberation. A bunch of reasons including the one you gave
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:33 AM
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She was a child until recently. There’s also probably social pressure because all her peers dress very provocatively
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:28 AM
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You’ve never seen it because you don’t care about sexual harassment against women and have no idea what you’re talking about. She wears revealing clothing all the time now https://twitter.com/gamesnosh/status/1315822600807952384?s=21&t=B4oJag9VDkJu64WjCiyEfA
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:23 AM
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Think about what you’re saying because it makes no sense. A vibration can’t be replaced by a man. It can be the size of lipstick The Porn videos you’re watching are of women that are better looking and more experienced than your partner effectively replacing her. There is no other person involved when using a vibrator You comparing vibrators to porn is like comparing using a fleshlight to having another women give you a bj
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:20 AM
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What is there to be insecure about ? Men can’t do the same functions as a vibrator. If you need to watch other naked women to get off your relationship is doomed and you’re not attracted to your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:05 AM
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Ariel winter, Britney Spears and billy eilish get body shamed pretty regularly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:02 AM
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You’re not connecting with your partner if you need to bring a third person into the bedroom with you. That’s just weird. Also most women don’t use dildos, the use vibrators. It’s not common
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:54 AM
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Exactly because the problem is a lot of men see sex as more emotionless than women do. If you pull up porn she’s gonna think her body isn’t enough to satisfy you and that you’re not attracted to her. It’s very different than using a toy With the instagram thing it’s just disrespectful to be constantly starting at half naked women when you’re on your phone. It shows you lack self control.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:45 AM
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What you’re saying makes no sense. Sex toys are not the same as masturbating to a completely separate naked person. It has no place in the bedroom with your partner. How would you feel if your gf pulled up nudes of her ex bf to look at during sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:38 AM
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The only double standard are that the body shaming you’re describing happens 10x more often to female celebrities
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:33 AM
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As convincing as that bro science is, that’s not going to create a noticeable difference. Boobs sag because of stretched skin. That can only be fixed with surgery
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:06 AM
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There would be less “waiting for the sake of waiting” if slut shaming and mockery of sexually active women wasn’t so ubiquitous with men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 10:13 PM
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What “planning” is actually involved here? Doesn’t it usually work like: “let’s go see a movie” “sounds good!”. Ideally you two should be prioritising each other. I also think that if you’re paying for every single date that’s a bad sign she’s using you as a wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:04 PM
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Would you feel the same if the bills were being split 50/50. Seems like the only benefit you see to dating is to find a sexual partner not a companion or build an emotional bond
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:59 PM
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Not in my view, why would even want anyone that high maintenance any way ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:08 PM
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I don’t agree with guys having to pay for dates. But from personal experience a lot of them like to pay to have something to hold over you head. “You’re (not sleeping with)/(dumping) me even though I bought you dinner!” You even see stories like this all the time on Reddit. Men expecting sex after paying for a $5 drink. So it’s both sides making it transaction, more so men because they are making the choice to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:07 PM
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You have no idea how men treat ugly women because you’ve never experienced it. How is it that you say you’re ignored by women yet you have perfect knowledge that they’re: entitled, rude and impolite.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:26 PM
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You don’t have any female coworkers or family members ? What about the female partners of your male friends and male family members
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:19 PM
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62.63% of men say men should pay 46% of women say men should pay https://www.elitesingles.com/mag/relationship-advice/who-should-pay-for-date
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 01:59 PM
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More women think the bill should be split than men who do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 01:28 PM
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It’s exactly the same The problem with what you’re doing is you’re projecting male sexuality onto women and pretending it works the same when it doesn’t. We can become physically attracted to someone because of their ambition, drive, thoughtfulness, intelligence etc. A lot of people become less superficial and looks driven with age, why is this surprising ?looks fade with age. Also think about what you’re saying, loads of women are marrying men they aren’t attracted to to (prostituting themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 01:28 PM
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Jesus Christ you’re narcissism is insanely strong. I literally addressed all of your nonsensical points and arguments and you ignored it just like you’re accusing others of doing. Even though this “masterpiece” that you’re so proud of can really just be summed up as “women are ugly, annoying and gross. Unlike men who are all hot and funny and smart” Nothing you’ve said can hold up to scrutiny anyway. Who has more friends ? Women. Who graduates university more ? Women. Who moves out of their pare…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 01:10 PM
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Getting jacked like the rock and Chris Hemsworth is a male fantasy. Think of timothee Chalamet, Harry Styles and Dylan OBrien. None of them are jacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 06:43 AM
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I don’t expect men to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 06:39 AM
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It’s obvious you have no knowledge of anything you’re talking about. BBLs have the highest mortality rate of any plastic surgery and boob implants are not safer than taking steroids Not that you even need steroids to have an athletic build. You can’t make your boobs bigger by working out
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 06:36 AM
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That’s not true, every woman does these grooming rituals so men just see it as the norm. They don’t question it That’s why when women don’t wear makeup they’re asked if they’re sick or tired
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 06:33 AM
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Did you get lost man, this isn’t an incel forum.
/r/seduction22/07/22 05:30 AM
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So a gold digger is a person who forms relationships with others purely to extract money from them. So that’s not a woman who expects gifts and dates paid for and it’s not sex work. How often do you think this actually happens ? Even when you have a young women actually going out of her way to date a rich guy that’s not in her league they both know what the arrangement is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:17 AM
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Do you think women don’t desire a romantic relationship or companionship. That has nothing to do with money. Who is forcing you to spend money on dates ? No one, grow up and take responsibility for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:11 AM
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Walk in the park, Netflix and chill, picnic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:07 AM
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If you want a prostitute go and hire one. Paying for a $5 ice cream isn’t an excuse to sexually harass the women you’re on a date with. If you expect sex for paying, just say it upfront and save everyone the wasted time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:06 AM
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It’s stupid to be anti abortion especially for the first ~12 weeks because fertilised eggs are destroyed all the time time though the use of IUDs and the morning after pill. Also it’s common place in fertility offices. In the first trimester the embryo is not conscious and doesn’t in any way resemble a baby. You calling it a “baby” is that same as calling a child a “fully grown adult man”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 12:11 AM
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A single cell organism isn’t a child
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 11:30 PM
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It’s not if there’s no manipulation or deception involved
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:45 PM
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It’s not skewed because the vast majority of men are like that whereas women who are gold diggers are rare
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:43 PM
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So just so I understand, you think she was using you for your money just because she didn’t sleep with you ? That’s it ? She didn’t ghost you or drop you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:32 PM
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They’re on TikTok and FDS
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:30 PM
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Yes, this way men can stop expecting sex after paying for a $15 meal
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:28 PM
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I would
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:24 PM
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Yea my friend went out with a guy like this too, he just agreed with everything he said and reworked his personality to become a mimic of hers. Very creepy and weird
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:19 PM
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Structuring your life around what you think women want is toxic and is not make a desirable partner Part of the problem is that men don’t respect female hobbies and they don’t care to know anything about female interests Here are some suggestions - do some volunteer work (animal shelter, homeless shelter) - join a book club or a library - go to a creative writing workshop - work at a community garden - go to a painting clasS - sign up for a museum tour Try to make some female friends WITHOUT any…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:54 PM
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I literally have no idea what you mean by “perform like dancing monkeys” I honestly think that for a lot of young women and some men they just have other shit going on and aren’t interested in going out hunting for a partner. Street harassment (cat calling) is still incredibly common place, so is women getting groped at clubs or concerts and parties. Not only that men can become very sexually aggressive when drunk. It has nothing to do with having a fear complex, you’re comparing regular occurre…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:34 PM
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That wasn’t my intention, what I was trying to point out is that this issue of hopelessness, moral degradation and apathy seems to be affecting young men a lot worse than young women. Male violence towards themselves and others is on the rise lately and has been getting more and more extreme. I can see how it comes actress as sexist though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:25 PM
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It plays into the whole idea that women are the prize, and therefore are already fulfilling their end of the bargain simply by existing. Taking out all the groping and sexual assault or harassment that happens in those spaces. How is that your conclusion and not that the women not outside or with someone just don’t want to be approached
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:20 PM
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You’re describing men doing all these things like it’s making them more desirable when it isn’t. It’s incredibly toxic to structure your entire life around fining an imaginary sexual partner that you’d built up in your mind to epic levels. Not only that the things men are doing arent even what women want ! It’s what other men think women want. They are still deeply misogynist and don’t respect women, they still don’t know how to talk to women, yet they believe their large muscles are enough. Do …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:17 PM
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You can try rewriting this to sound less bitter, hateful and resentful. Honestly it just comes across like you’ve had a few too many rejections and it’s poisoned your mind and spirit. Women really aren’t as stupid as you’d like to believe, the ones that stay inside all the time know that we’re not going to be approached by men. The ones that do want to be approached and find a bf actually go out, are on all the apps etc etc. There is a bigger issue here though which is that some young men don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:04 PM
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Yeah you’re right. It isn’t the women committing the acts of violent domestic terrorism
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:51 PM
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When you eventually go to a therapist to work through your issues, I think showing them this comment would be helpful. Knowing how many young men are as deluded as you is probably why so many women fear dating, Jesus makes sense. The brain rot of young men has reached epic levels lately
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 11:34 AM
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Yeah as if all dating apps aren’t 80% men, they are inside doing something productive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 11:30 AM
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Because everyone knows you’re body count is tattooed on your forehead for everyone to see right ? This just screams of insecurity and jealously man. Let people live their lives how they want. I think people who smoke are destroying their bodies but I don’t spend any time ranting about them online because that insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:43 AM
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Women are just going to have less sex overall, they’re not going to start sleeping with losers they wouldn’t have looked at before
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:24 AM
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It’s more likely the case that people are pairing off like they used to because a lot of men like yourself face a couple rejections in higschool then become completely deranged and think women having causal sex is going to cause the end of humanity “ all women are sluts and whores and not respectable because they’re not pairing off with me “ This revenge fantasy you have is incredibly disturbing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:21 AM
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Here’s a quick solution I found: don’t spend any money on her if you’re confused if she’s with you for money
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:07 AM
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No it’s not because women complain about fuck boys because they will actively lie and manipulate a lot of the time. You’re describing it as something intentional as if peoples physical attraction doesn’t evolve and mature over time. It does. When you were a teenager or a child you were attracted to other children, hopefully that is no longer the case. There’s some extreme delusions involved around the idea that most women are gold diggers because they want a husband that makes more than them. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:06 AM
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It’s always the basement dwellers and men with no money to their name that complain about gold diggers. Stop coming up with nonsensical justifications for your sociopathic behaviour. Men are willingly spending money on women, there is not manipulation involved. It is literally a mutual exchange
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:11 AM
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You’re parents obviously spoiled you too much and completely failed you. I cant imagine a grown man having such as strong victim complex that it’s on the level of a toddler. I recommend seeing a therapist for extreme narcissism and sociopathy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:07 AM
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So weird how some men have an obsession with fat women. They’re really public enemy %1 and take up so much of your mental energy
/r/seduction21/07/22 04:54 AM
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Happens all the time, some people just enjoy their partners company
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:39 AM
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I would never be in that situation with a woman but I’m just saying that’s a better idea than forcing yourself to have sex with someone you don’t want to
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:38 AM
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Makes sense seeing as I’m not even attracted to women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:37 AM
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Have you forgotten what you wrote women are terrible at taking rejection so I just go along with it I was trying to say you shouldn’t go along with things just because of fear of upsetting someone
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:28 PM
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So this isn’t about you being afraid that she’ll get upset like you originally said
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 10:20 PM
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The guy I responded to said he wouldn’t just leave because he’s afraid of hurting her feelings. I’m saying that’s a bit pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 10:19 PM
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So what? You’d really fuck someone you’re not attracted to because you want to be polite ? If so try to learn to stand up for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:30 PM
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Who cares what they think. I have to much self respect to sleep with someone I’m not attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:29 PM
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You can be exclusive without sleeping with them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:59 PM
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It has nothing to do with “baggage”, it’s because men constantly say how disgusting women that have sex immediately are. Think of all the names men call promiscuous women Also wanting to get to know someone before sleeping with them isnt “repressed” it’s practical. Some people need an emotional or romantic connection, not to mention a lot of men will only try and date a woman for sexual access
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:57 PM
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You can’t just make up an excuse like “I feel sick let’s stop”, “actually things are going to fast”, “I forgot to walk my dog and they’re trapped inside “
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:54 PM
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Being asked that question is an automatic red flag then ghost
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:44 PM
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What are you even saying. That’s just as straw man because no one said men using women for sex is wrong unless they’re honest about it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:41 PM
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You are very much still acting like you’re in middle school. This sounds like creative writing. If their her friends their loyalty is to her, and what exactly is there to “warn” of ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:29 PM
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Sex is not a core part of life, you will not find one doctor, government or academic say that. The only people who say that are incels. You can live a long productive fulfilling live without any sexual contact. Incels believe that all their problems can be reduced to sexlessness when often that is very far form the case
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:14 PM
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Risk what ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:09 PM
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Yea that’s a smart move when the women you just start dating introduces you to her friends ask them how often she has ONSs
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:08 PM
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This pathetic man, stop projecting your insecurity and issues with women onto other people. All your showing is jealousy and bitterness and this isn’t the place for it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:57 PM
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How does not wanting to have sex immediately make you timid ? And why is “safe” a negative trait
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:32 PM
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Tabacco and alcohol mostly only have negative consequences on the people consuming it. The link you posted says that aggressive people consume aggreasive porn. No shit, sherlock. What are you talking about ? Boys exposed to violent pornography were 2–3 times more likely to report sexual TDV perpetration and victimization and physical TDV victimization, while girls exposed to violent pornography were over 1.5 times more likely to be perpetrate threatening TDV compared to their non-exposed counter…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:58 PM
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It’s fear, but it’s also rational and pragmatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:44 PM
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They don’t want to be judged as “too easy” by a guy they actually like, they don’t want to be dropped right after sex. They want time to evaluate someone before sex is involved
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:42 PM
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How would you even know if she has has a ONS before ? That seems like an inappropriate question to ask
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:40 PM
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They are allowing each other to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:38 PM
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Yes, that’s literally what she said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:37 PM
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I’ve been ghosted, breadcrumbed whatever by guys all the time on OLD. I assumed they just found someone else. Happens all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:14 PM
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A lot of you guys are just very unattractive and think your experience is universal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:13 PM
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Builders and miners are necessary jobs. Prostitution isn’t. The clients are the ones who regularly assault rape and murder the women they’re seeing. It is already men with questionable morals visiting prostitutes, most of the time they are have less respect for women than the average man. You can see it in the way men talk about pornstars online, they’re seen as public toilets Porn used does lead to sexual aggression: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6751001/#:~:text=The%20confluence…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:12 PM
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You need to learn how to articulate yourself in a way that hides the bitterness, insecurity and hatred you feel towards women. It’s incredibly obvious and off putting Also I’m not even a feminist, so I guess you can add radical feminist and femcel to words that have no meaning
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:48 PM
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The rise of online misogyny and incel ideology hasn’t helped this
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:38 AM
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This doesn’t happen btw
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:32 AM
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I don’t think women are filtering out for the reasons you’ve described. Red flags are more like rudeness, misogyny, aggressiveness, insecurity, selfishness etc
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:31 AM
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Tinder is seen as a sex app. That’s why the user base is 80% men. Bumble and hinge are better
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:26 AM
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There’s no “spirit of truth” in this because that’s how men use the apps too
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:25 AM
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That’s complete nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:24 AM
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My friend does this just because of how often men will try to fuck her over or manipulate her. You have no conceptual understanding of how often that happens. Out of 10, 7 guys can do some completely fucked up shit to you down the line. That’s where this behaviour originates
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:33 AM
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Don’t lots of single women go to bars or clubs
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:29 AM
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Men who are in terrible economic position participate in work that destroys their body and mental health. Women don’t have access to those physical labour jobs. You should investigate where this disgust is coming from, religious conditioning, insecurity, hatred of women. Every single definition you can come up with for “purity” is making a moral or value based judgment on the people you’re describing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:33 AM
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I wasn’t trying to attack you with that first comment. If you don’t have the same economic situation as the women you’re disparaging you really are in no position to have such judgment towards them. I’ll restate the definition of purity: “freedom from immorality, especially of a sexual nature”. If you’re not talking about morality use a different word
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:38 AM
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It’s mostly the men that have extreme disgust for sex workers who are their main clients and who regularly abuse them. Youll see this disgust manifest more in how the murder of sex workers is rarely seen as significant. Ignoring the fact that calling sex work a “choice” is being wilfully ignorant to how global sex trafficking and child exploitation works. You yourself don’t have the same disgust for men engaging in the same behaviour which has nothing to do with attraction to women because many …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:18 AM
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It’s actually just incredibly pathetic. Either you’ve spent so much time around other social outcasts and degenerates that fear women you don’t even recognise how unhinged you sound or you’re pretending to be obtuse which is even worse. Go ahead and look up the definition of “incel” and “misogynist” if you’re confused, I used the words correctly. You didn’t even “disagree with” or “generalise” women it was a few steps past that. Downplaying it isn’t “owning up to your beliefs”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:12 AM
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I don't see purity like that, I see it more as a personal choice. In your mind does rape not exist? But many people keep their sexual purity because they believe it's the best thing for them, and I do find it beautiful. This whole concept is so disturbing, acknowledge the history of how the idea of sexual purity has lead the oppression and subjugation of people for millennia. And the fact that these atrocities are still committed today, even in western modern countries. I can’t even list them be…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:34 AM
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People who are attracted to the purity of teenagers are less so talking about their idealism and optimism (which this day and age no teenagers have) they are talking about naivety and gullibility. There is unspoken desire to control, manipulate and posses. I don’t want to repeat myself but there is nothing lost by using the term “sexual inexperience” instead of “sexual purity”. I’ve already explained why it’s offensive, you not finding it offensive doesn’t change that fact. People don’t like bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 12:55 AM
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It’s not that different from fucking a corpse. The dead eyes, lifeless body. Very creepy and disturbing. Let’s assume it hasn’t decomposed and the deceased’s family won’t find out. Not very different at all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 12:48 AM
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I haven’t read one story of sexual assault
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 12:46 AM
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I think stripping, only fans, being a sugar baby and being a nude model are probably fine It’s always women who have to straddle the line between sex work and being a regular actress or model It’s prostitution and pornography that cause the most serious issues. Putting aside sex trafficking and child exploitation it doesn’t even have a good effect on the men who consume it. They don’t respect sex workers and they become desensitised to violent sex and perpetuate it to their partners
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:33 PM
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Its just borderline sociopathic. Like men who fuck animals or corpses or trees. You’re having intercourse with someone that isn’t alive but mimic’s a real human
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 08:47 PM
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A lot of the things you’re saying are devoid of all logic. No one is criticising men for using flesh lights, that’s a straw man. What is there even to critique ? Every single major negative consequence of pornography prostitution cannot be said for only fans. There is literally no physical contact involved between the woman and the client or other sex workers, and if there is were the woman is the director and has full control over the situation. I don’t know why it’s necessary to list out all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 08:43 PM
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You don’t see how a lifesized doll modelled after a women is different from a dildo or a fleshlight ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:41 PM
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No one is attacking fleshlights and only fans But the porn industry and prostitution have real concrete global consequences and have lead to millions of lives being destroyed every year Western women are not flying to the Philippines to bring back a teenage husband to treat as a sex slave and maid Many of the biggest sex doll companies model their product after children
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:39 PM
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You’re an adult who can make your own decision and people are free to judge you for it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:34 PM
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Have some self awareness, your original comment sounds like it’s straight out of an incel manifesto. Even Elliot Rodger didn’t sound as deranged. Have some self respect a actually own up to your beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:32 PM
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When prostitution is legalised sex trafficking increased because an entire industry is created in that country. People will fly in for sex tourism and the supply often doesn’t meet the demand so a lot of poor girls get flown in from developing countries. Even where women can file complaints police often don’t do anything because men see sex workers as public toilets. No one is asking to be worshiped, just treated with mutual respect Anyone this vitriolic and bigoted is dealing with extreme insec…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:17 PM
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It’s not homophobic to not enjoy PDA of gay people
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:11 PM
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I think that’s a bit extreme, I mean I may feel a bit of embarrassment when seeing people kiss in public (because that’s private) but if your automatic feeling is disgust than it is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 04:34 PM
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As far as I understand if a man signs the birth certificate or is married to the woman when she gives birth he is liable for 18 years of child support regardless of if the child is his or not
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 04:29 PM
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That’s what happens when you get unwanted advances so often from friends and strangers. Also it’s more extreme disgust towards it than despising it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 04:25 PM
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That’s only true for men who view women as nothing but warm fleshlights. Some actually care about love and companionship
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 04:21 PM
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If prostitution does get legalised it likely means more sexual exploitation and sex trafficking of young girls by grown men like what’s already happening You seem to have some serious issues, don’t project them onto all men. Women have a lot more to value than how fuckable they are This revenge fantasy is one of the more pathetic ones I’ve read. You still have the option to just drop women completely and just never approach one again. It would be better for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 04:19 PM
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The disapproval is more towards the men who create and run the sex industry and the men who participate in it. The research I’ve seen shows how terribly mostly young female prostitutes are treated and exploited
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 04:14 PM
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Yeah a life sized doll with all the features of a woman isn’t a “toy” anymore and it is disturbing because it implies you’re so sociopath you think an object can replace sex with a real person
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 04:11 PM
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A lot of sex dolls are purposefully made to look like children. It’s a lot better than prostitution but it’s still disturbing and unsettling
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 04:07 PM
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I hardcore agree with what she said but it doesn’t mean I’m asexual or hate men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 04:06 PM
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Can you give an example of what you mean by lame or cheesy. I thought girls mostly complained about overly sexual or aggressive approaches
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 03:59 PM
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There’s a lot of creative writing and revenge fantasies in this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 03:58 PM
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A lot of women do struggle to get a boyfriend. Myself included
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:04 PM
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You said “casual sex” in your title. Why should men not have to “struggle” to get a gf, it’s not like buying fruit from a grocery store. Relationships require mutual respect, not solely physical attributes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:40 PM
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I think the reason women don’t like you is because of your personality
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:33 PM
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Women are not just meat robots that exist to service mens sexual needs. They have wants and desires too. No one is owed or entitled to sex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:32 PM
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Them being impulsive and rebellious against their parents actually supports the points that I’m trying to make From listening to girls my age (18-20) that dated older men they said that they used underhanded tactics to try and trick / manipulate them, relished in the age difference and spoke to them like and adult speaks to a child and acted generally aggressive towards them if they didn’t get their way If you ask men what traits they find attractive in women it’s always the features of children…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:40 AM
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Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of the major religions who know the extreme sexism inherent to all of them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:23 AM
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I am one, I’m just saying that because Andrew Tate openly says that’s why he goes after teenagers. There’s a large power imbalance so he can basically command them like a parent does to a child
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:19 AM
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Yeah any women who’s following this advice is probably putting her personal saftey at risk. I don’t think there’s some magic code to dating - be confident and self assured - be approachable and friendly - have strong boundaries and don’t compromise on them - be as physically attractive as possible - be social and outgoing - be forward and upfront Etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 04:29 AM
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It’s not just looks declining. A lot of men desire women 18-22 for reasons nothing to do with looks, it’s gullibility, naivety and obedience
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 04:18 AM
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A lot of those hitchhikers were brutally murdered so it makes sense
/r/seduction19/07/22 02:42 AM
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Men have an even stronger preference for things women can’t control: race; height; hips,boobs and ass size/shape, hair texture, facial features / facial attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:57 AM
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That’s because men are shallow and superficial
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:43 AM
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I agree with what you’re saying but that “study” has been debunked https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/6/4/18650969/married-women-miserable-fake-paul-dolan-happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:42 AM
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More like common sense, how old are you 13?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:41 AM
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Wow finally some common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:35 AM
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You can’t be serious no makeup, ear piercings and no social media
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:35 AM
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Such a lie
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:33 AM
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Innocent can mean “free from moral wrong; not corrupted” or “naive” This implies that people that have sex are immoral and corrupted. Naive also means you want someone who is easy to manipulate and control Pure has a similar definition “wholesome and untainted by immorality” “free of any contamination”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:26 AM
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Yet only women get attacked for it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:19 AM
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And you’re not intelligent at all. I said “wastes a lot of money” as in excessive spending. Not just playing video games in general
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:00 PM
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Makeup isn’t lying because everyone knows what it does, because all women wear it it’s basically the only way to look presentable now
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:11 PM
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I didn’t misread it. It saying “mostly” heavy makeup not “only” heavy makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:03 PM
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It’s materialism and following trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:01 PM
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So it says “mostly” heavy makeup not “only” heavy makeup. And it doesn’t say “body piercings” it just says “piercings”. If he meant nipple / belly button / tongue piercings he should’ve specified that Also the long hair extensions point is incredibly stupid I partially agree with the fashion trends point because it’s incredibly consumeristic and wasteful most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:00 PM
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Wearing makeup, earrings and trendy clothes are not bad qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:49 PM
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So she already checks off 2, probably a lot more if you were being honest with yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:24 PM
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I’ll add a few more - any form of incel language “chad” “alpha” “Stacy” “the wall” - preference for very young girls - no female friends - can’t handle rejection (gets upset / whiny) - his entire social media is full of scantily clad young women - watches twitch streamers - wastes a lot of their money on dumb hobbies: video games, Pokémon cards - can’t clean up after themselves - bad hygiene - unemployed - thinks a woman wearing makeup is to attract men, shames women for wearing makeup - any for…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:22 PM
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She never wears makeup, doesn’t have her ears pierced and doesn’t follow fashion trends ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:10 PM
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You’re already showing signs of shaming, elitism and being active on social media
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:08 PM
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Attractive girls who never wear makeup or follows beauty standards or fashion trends and doesn’t have her ears pierced ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:07 PM
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Yes, all men too actually
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:05 PM
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Already showing signs of 6, 11 and 13
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:05 PM
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Porn addiction, video game addiction
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 07:32 PM
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0% of girls you’re actually physically attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 07:32 PM
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I’m sure you yourself have a lot of these too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 07:30 PM
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You said “most men wouldn’t like it if his partner had any of these” you’re projecting. Most men are attracted to women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:50 PM
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Maybe you just aren’t attracted to women at all man
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:47 PM
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I mean for the first date maybe, but afterwards if she never pays that’s your sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:12 PM
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Look I get it because I get nervous talking to guys too, but you just have to go into the conversation with no goals in mind expect getting to know them and stop overthinking things. The only real practice is exposure therapy and putting yourself out there. Dr K and Jordan Peterson give really good lectures on this that I think are worth watching.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:11 PM
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Romance doesn’t have to involve any money being spent or any “pampering”. Just care, time, attention and expressions of feelings. It can even involve non sexual physical intimacy There are people in asexual romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:06 PM
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Is it that difficult to find a more social friend you can go out with and wing man with ( even a female friend would work). That’s what would really help, because the people running those bootcamps don’t actually care about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:03 PM
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You can’t be serious. If you want to avoid gold diggers don’t spend any money on the women you’re interested in, split the bill and don’t buy them gifts. Problem solved. Men manipulate women in much more underhanded and nefarious ways. That’s what the entire PUA industry is about, sexually exploiting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:01 PM
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The only thing that will help you socially is practice and exposure. Not sitting behind a screen watching “alpha male” YouTubers. You’ve obviously been manipulated and they’re stealing from you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:59 PM
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I think you can be passionate about someone without sleeping with them by showing you’re excited to see them, buying them gifts, planning dates etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:50 PM
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You’re proving her point exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:45 PM
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Getting a bf won’t fix anyones mental health issues so that’s irrelevant Some women are fine being single but they still deal with it in better ways. It’s not just men rejecting you because of their standard, they can also be abusive and mean to the women they find ugly or just try and manipulate and use them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:31 PM
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Be nice to people and treat them with respect. Try and find people you are compatible with
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:26 PM
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Purity is defined as “freedom from adulteration or contamination” or “freedom from immorality, especially of a sexual nature.” Calling virgins “pure” implies that people that have sex are contaminated, adulterated and immoral. It is incredibly clear what people mean when they use words like “pure” or “purity” and it is offensive and disgusting. You can make up a new definition but it is not the accepted or used one. “Sexual inexperience” is what you’re looking for
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:21 PM
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I don’t even know what you guys would consider a 8-9/10 man
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:41 PM
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I wouldn’t be upset, not that anyones ever asked me those questions
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:41 PM
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I don’t care about peoples personal preferences that much. It’s the language around “pure” and “innocent” that I find disturbing because of what it implies
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:00 PM
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They don’t they’re just fine being single
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 08:23 PM
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I think it depends on how big the house is (do you have your own entrance) and how often your parents / siblings are home.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 07:20 PM
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There will be more unemployed young men as there are right now Simps are 100% spending their parents money through, theft, begging and whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 06:17 PM
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So the wall is at ~52 then
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:43 PM
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Men choosing to engage in gang activity is not the same as women falling victim to male predators while just trying to live their lives. Also this is a dating subreddit last I checked
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:37 PM
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The thing is inflation has already been happening but the internet sex workers have only seen their money increase. More people are just working and going home with no time to socialise. They just overlay that need for connection onto online sex workers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:30 PM
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This just sounds like a revenge fantasy. Hate to break it to you man but it’s young men who are driving unemployment and living with their parents. Young women are earning more and have more degrees. Nothing is gonna stop the simps from spending their parents money on onlyfans and twitch. 1 and 3 might happen, 5 is already happening, 6 will not happen because the increase in prostitution will be incredibly minimal, 8 will happen. Vast majority of young women are overweight/obese and people still…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:28 PM
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https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:05 PM
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Where’s your source ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:02 PM
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More overweight/obese men than women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 11:53 AM
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Go ahead and read some of the comments on this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 11:13 AM
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He’s being deliberately misleading with the rape numbers: comparing all sexual assaults against men to only rape against women. I’ll also say that there are clear reasons why 80% of tinder users are men and why women hate the app. There’s no ego boost that can be gained by constant sexual harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 10:56 AM
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That’s only if you include criminal gang activity which only men are involved in. Look at just dating violence or one sided violence and it’s mostly female victims
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 10:53 AM
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The negatives are not equal, women have to be more wary of STDs, date rape and pregnancy. The OP is deliberately messing with the rates of sexual assault. He’s using the number of all sexual violence against men and only rapes against women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 10:49 AM
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A lot of women dislike flexing pictures of men showing off their muscles in the guy, or pictures of them trying to show off their well It feels like grotesque peacocking behaviour
/r/seduction17/07/22 10:34 AM
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It’s funny because just like in Christianity, in the manosphere discourse misogyny is the primary focus and any condemnation/celebration of male sexuality is incidental. Every single year we get another new insult to call women who sleep around: thot, for the streets, she rides the community cock, fatherless behaviour, alpha widowed. So while I can easily agree with you that they are different the foundational beliefs are the same and the origins are the same. The subjugation of women and having…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 10:29 AM
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This is just what I was about to say. Men find different things in other men attractive than what women do
/r/seduction17/07/22 05:47 AM
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That’s not why men call women sluts. Yes it’s because they want to upset them but it also implies: I think you’re disgusting and repulsive. That’s why it’s offensive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:45 AM
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Doesn’t change the fact that attacking women for sleeping around is disgusting and immoral. In your mind they put in no effort to “seduce” men. So what ? Their actions are literally harmless and no one’s business
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:43 AM
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"abstinence for everyone until marriage, all other sex is evil" is a different attitude than "men who sleep around are admirable heroes, women who sleep around are degenerate sluts." You can't truly believe both of these propositions at the same time. 2 sides of the same coin because it’s mostly women receiving these religious purity attacks Take this metaphor to the logical conclusion: it frames male sexuality as disgusting, dirty, polluting and vile. It frames the penis as the defiler of purit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:40 AM
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This is such a bullshit deflection because you will literally venerate male sluts as heros and “alphas” but attack women who are sexually active. It’s clear as day to anyone with a prefrontal cortex what this is actually about
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:43 AM
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You can throw a tantrum and be emotional all you want, it’s a sign of extreme immaturity. Nothing I’m saying should be beyond your comprehension. Want what you want, don’t be prejudiced against people you don’t want. I wouldn’t date a gay man ≠ gay men are disgusting degenerates I prefer women who are inexperienced ≠ women who have pre martial sex are tainted sluts I don’t find short fat balding old men attractive. I don’t obnoxiously advertise this or call them ridiculous names
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:40 AM
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Finding someone sexually or romantically unattractive is very different then thinking they have less value. Men are free to have preferences in that regard but it often crosses the line into extreme misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:07 AM
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It’s a prejudice just like any other. Even if you don’t explicitly act out racist beliefs the fact that you hold them still influence the way you behave There’s nothing wrong with viewing people as unattractive because being unattractive says nothing about your character. It’d be another thing if you viewed obese people as gluttonous, greedy, lazy and unhygienic. That is a prejudice and reflects negatively on yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:05 AM
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What are you talking about? You literally responded to a comment I made about criticising men for believing some women are “impure” or “tainted”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:19 AM
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Why is there no excuse. Shame works. If society wants to discourage a certain behavior, it typically uses shame. Why do people need to be shamed out of having consensual causal sex ? What is wrong with it. All of the negative side effects (STDs, unwanted pregnancy) can be easily avoided with careful planning A lock that can be opened by any key is a bad lock. A key that can open any lock is a good key. An example of pure sexism, shaming promiscuity in women and lauding it in men. Women are not o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:17 AM
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It’s disturbing that you shame / attack people just because you’re not interested in dating them. I don’t go around calling short men trolls or unemployed men broke
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:15 AM
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I think that is mostly due to modern rebranding but while I agree men are targeted too, it has always been women who bared the brunt of it for the reasons I’ve listed In sex Ed in Christian areas they use pieces of tape to show that every time a girl has sex (a boy sticks the tape to his arm) she becomes more worthless. None of these practices are directed at male students https://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-cup-full-of-spit-a-chewed-up-piece-of-gum-these-are-the-metaphors-used-to-teach-kids-about-se…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:12 AM
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Why is there no excuse. Shame works. If society wants to discourage a certain behavior, it typically uses shame. Why do people need to be shamed out of having consensual causal sex ? What is wrong with it. All of the negative side effects (STDs, unwanted pregnancy) can be easily avoided with carful planning A lock that can be opened by any key is a bad lock. A key that can open any lock is a good key. An example of pure sexism, shaming promiscuity in women and lauding it in men To be fair, both …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:07 AM
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It is the peak of narcissism to assume that because someone doesn’t subscribe to your personal preference about how an attractive women should behave they have less value in your eyes I value different things in possible sexual partners than I do when looking for a lawyer or a doctor or a dentist. Which women can be, are you working under the impression that womens only purpose is to be sexually attractive to men ? I’ll remind you that having consensual sex isn’t immoral or worthy of condemnatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:55 AM
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Honestly have you been living under a rock ? Try Googling what “purity balls” are and look at images, how many young boys are seen participating? Also consider the entire culture of “modesty” in religion that teaches young girls to cover themselves so they don’t illicit lust in men. “Chastity” and “purity” are concepts that are literally only used to attack women. That is why they wear white to weddings. To symbolise they are virgins for their husbands
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:49 AM
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Because it’s misogynistic and misogyny is bad
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:49 AM
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Why is a woman’s value tied to how dateable she is to men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:47 AM
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No by “oppress” i was referring to stoning women for adultery and other forms of capital punishment. Even if what you’re saying is true, it’s no excuse to shame women by calling them “impure” “tainted” and “corrupted”. Do you see how that’s incredibly loaded language. Having sex doesn’t make you more immoral or weakens your character Promiscuous men are celebrated and venerated. Promiscuous women are mocked and outcast. You see the difference ? If the goal was actually to shame promiscuous behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:45 AM
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What is ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:20 PM
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That doesn’t mean that most of them have the same beliefs in common
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:19 PM
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Because those same guys will harass young women and sexualise them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:04 PM
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“Pure” implies that women who have sex are damaged goods, permanently tainted. It’s incredibly patriarchal and this idea has been used to oppress women for our entire recorded history
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:04 PM
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This subreddit is literally for debate. Also women are directly affected and oppressed by these misogynistic beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:00 PM
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Even those religious guys think virgin women are “pure” “untainted” and “innocent”. It’s very disturbing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 10:59 PM
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There’s also the morning after pill
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 10:12 PM
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Other people have said it better than me but sleeping with someone who has no experience is usually awkward, uncomfortable and embarrassing. Which I personally can’t handle. I’ve heard a lot of other women say that they don’t mind so just look for people you’re compatible with
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:48 PM
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I think you’re confusing confidence with arrogance and narcissism. It’s more about being self assured, socially adept, good at communicating, charismatic and easy going. Contrast to low self esteem, nervous, quiet, awkward, embarrassed, scared of women, socially inept. There’s also the added factor of sex with people who have no idea what they’re doing can be uncomfortable, awkward, arduous and embarrassing. As others have said So that’s my reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:36 PM
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This is really the only correct answer
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:09 PM
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Most of these neckbeards can’t even afford to fund the traditional lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:06 PM
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It’s innocent traditional virgin teenage tradwifes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:05 PM
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The reason “pure” is offensive is because it implies that sex taints or corrupts women. Acting innocent / pure is just a euphemism for acting like a child or girlish. Grown women can act like children to seduce men, it doesn’t make it less disturbing You said it yourself that adult men regularly coerce young girls. The porn industry also sexualises teenage girls and children. There are entire genres on only fans, instagram, and TikTok of adult women dressing up and acting like children to arouse…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:03 PM
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Yes! This is the only common sense answer. It’s men that watch too much porn have this sexual fantasy of being with a 19 yo virgin. Super fucked. The men who have experience have said they didn’t enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:17 PM
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?? When did I say that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:56 PM
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College girls also complain about the rapey vibes and toxic masculinity in ALL MEN. That doesn’t mean all men are asshole rapists
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:46 PM
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Opposite of a sex object really
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:45 PM
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I think the reason some feminists call this problematic is because of the obvious power imbalance and fetishisation of youth. At least you didn’t use words like “pure” and “innocent” those are 100% dog whistles
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:44 PM
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At least it is somewhat clear to you how incoherent and nonsensical this archaic way of thinking is
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:09 AM
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They can inflate it but it’s more about the way they carry themselves and attitude more than a specific number, confidence like you said
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:45 AM
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Why don’t you actually answer the question. Why does having sex make you “impure” according to you and why is “innocence” attractive. Don’t bother responding if you can’t formulate a real answer
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:43 AM
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Sleeping with a male virgin honestly sounds like a nightmare. Usually they’re that way for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:28 AM
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Nope girl, around the same age as OP
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:21 AM
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It’s funny cause I want the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:19 AM
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Sounds like you want a child who’s 12-15
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:16 AM
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Wtf do you mean by “purity”, why does a woman become “impure” with sex and a man doesn’t? What is the attraction of someone who’s “innocent” ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:13 AM
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He counldnt be because he’s whining on reddit instead
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:06 AM
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Seems like you’re just speaking out of bitterness jealousy and hatred. Frat bros are just regular people, some are good some are bad
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:05 AM
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Translation: why wife won’t wipe my ass, do my laundry and clean up after me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:06 AM
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That’s such BS, most women our age are insecure and self conscious. You would know if you interacted with them at all
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:20 AM
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You should be trying to impress each other. This isn’t the 50s. Yet women are still expected to do extensive grooming rituals like shaving their entire body, styling their hair and doing their makeup. Life is just unfair
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:40 PM
1

Same can be said for the many privileges men have
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:39 PM
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Many bisexual women also say the opposite, that they prefer dating women because they are more empathetic compassionate and better at expressing their emotions
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:38 PM
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You’re literally talking about assault stats against men that are 90% do to organised crime and gang activity. That has nothing to do with date rape, IPV, DV and gender violence. Use your common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:20 PM
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You’re only thinking about getting into a relationship not all the shit that goes along with that like - fear of sexual assault - higher risk of STDs - risk of pregnancy - higher chance of being cheated on - higher chance of being used and manipulated - possibility you’ll be expected to become a live in maid for your partner - extensive ridiculous grooming regimes you have to do The lists goes on. The struggles are there just in different areas
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:16 PM
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We are talking about date rape and IPV. The jails are filled with men for a reason here
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:14 PM
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So mean for what reason ? Your cupsize is literally dependant on the size of your rib cage / abdomen not just your boob size.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:11 PM
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College girls too I think (18-22)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:06 PM
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MBJ is very muscular. But I think it entirely depends on age. For my age group (17-22) this body type is very popular because of TikTok and people like Timothee Chalamet . Most though want someone who is just athletic like this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 02:59 PM
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Yeah that’s complete bullshit. The reasons why millennial / Gen Z women are out earning their male peers is because the service industry and jobs that require degrees are expanding and the trades are contracting. Consequently Male labour market participation has been falling and womens has been growing “Women’s educational gains are outpacing men. They are more likely to have a college degree,” he explained. There is a direct correlation between education and employment, with the most advanced d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 02:40 PM
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No one ever mentions this but there have been extensive studies done that show a significant part of the male achievement gap is due to direct discrimination from teachers. Boys explicitly being marked down
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 11:02 AM
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A degree is the best predictor for a lifetime of high earnings. The jobs growing the most require university degrees. The trades cause long term damage to your body and have limited growth
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 10:59 AM
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Yeah and if you poll people asking them if they want millions of dollars I’m sure they would say yes to that too. Just because they want something doesn’t mean they can get it. Those same studies show that women like men around their age or slightly (4 years max) older. The amount of young women that are interested in men 20-30 years older them are either sex workers or mentally ill 99% of the time The average age women get married is 33. So half of all women get married when they’re 34+. Realit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:21 AM
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It feels disgusting, invasive and dehumanising. I hate it so much, wish it wasn’t socially acceptable to ask strangers that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:22 PM
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The women on here acknowledge it. We can’t speak for those that don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:19 PM
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Yeah I think this is right. I can only speak for myself but reactionary is a good descriptor
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:18 PM
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Yeah I noticed this too, men who are only 33 look 45. Even 27 yo men look too old for me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:13 PM
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Also, no one said all of a woman's options will dry up when a woman hit the wall. Most, not all. Even if we go by your (incorrect) understanding that men are only interested in women ~5-10 years younger than them women who are 35 are still being pursed by men 45+. What exactly is drying up here ? Then explain to me why you don't see men in their 50s dating and marrying women in their 35-49 age range mass? Because you see men in their 50s marry women in their 50s. Any study will tell you that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:10 PM
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Men prefer younger women just like women prefer millionaires. For most it’s unattainable, basically all young women (excluding sex workers) are going to date men of their age. Womens options only “dry up” if they’re actresses, models, strippers, porn stars etc. because then beauty is actually important. I’ll point out something incredibly obvious but a women at 35 is going to be young compared to a 40-55 year old man. There are less romantic options but there is no “wall” and nothing “drys up” Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:32 PM
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It’s less that people are more superficial (thought that’s part of it) it’s more so people are more anti social and alienated. Judging a partner entirely off their appearance online forces you to be superficial and leads to worse relationships, more ghosting, more cruel sociopathic behaviour (because you can just drop them and disappear)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:08 PM
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Your solution is that women should be inseminated by the state or turned into sex slaves ? Nothing reasonable like paying them or increasing maternity leave or making day care free The collapse will never happen because wealthy countries will just increase immigration which is what they’ve been doing for decades
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:48 PM
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You’re just proving my point exactly. I’ll point out the obvious absurdities in some of these “concepts” There is no “wall” seeing as everyone ages differently. Perfect example is Ana de Armas or Alexa Demi, they are 30 and can anyone tell? No. Any study will show you that the vast majority of people date other people that are their ages give or take 2 years. This doesn’t change. I’ll also point out the obvious that a women who is 30+ is still going to have better luck dating / more options than…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:41 PM
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What accusation did I make ? I’m pointing out the obvious which is that man that are creepy or abusive towards women aren’t going to advertise that or behave the same way around other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:27 PM
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Women hitting the “wall” “Alpha widow” “N count” “Beta bucks” All of these concepts are just offensive and have no basis in reality. You can hind behind the facade of wanting to be “informed” about dating. Most of the time it’s just away to attack women and sexually successful men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:25 AM
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Only for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:20 AM
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This is 100% also true for men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:00 AM
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Why can’t both misandry and misogyny be bad? This isn’t kindergarten, 2 wrongs don’t make a right The behaviour men enact on women in dating is objectively worse. Even FDS never advocated for manipulation or sexual assault. I’d much rather be rejected than be stalked, assaulted, harassed or cheated on You have a serious victim complex, hating women isn’t going to make your life better. Try therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:57 AM
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Loneliness is a choice. Go outside and make some friends Women not fucking you doesn’t mean they don’t see you as human
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:53 AM
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Obviously he’s not gonna be creepy to you the same way he is to a woman. This shouldn’t be surprising, misogynistic men respect other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:49 AM
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Grow up. Men care about looks just as much. Breaking news: Attractive people have easier lives, wait till you find out more shocking info like the sky is blue
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:48 AM
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You can improve yourself with out becoming a misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:45 AM
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It is dehumanising because most of the language about “SMV” reduces women to their reproductive organs or how fuckable they are. That combined with the ridiculous rating scale and “n count” is borderline sociopathic It’s one thing to gain an understanding of modern relationship dynamics but adopting the language of the sexual market place is a dead give away you’re deeply disturbed and terminally online
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:44 AM
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There are more unemployed and broke young men than women. They’re pretty useless as an ATM
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:40 AM
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Man this entire post is just incel manosphere talking points, have some self awareness
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:37 AM
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“Not human” are the theatrics really necessary ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:36 AM
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Consequences of porn induced brain rot and consuming hours of “alpha male” YouTube videos
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:35 AM
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Imagine believing data from a hookup app populated with 80% men says anything about human attraction. Insane level of brain rot
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:34 AM
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Men don’t and haven’t changed their dating behaviour for womens benefit. They still do the same shit that women have been complaining about for millennia It’s not fair that I have to deal with periods. Unlike men though I’m not constantly whining and crying about it and asking for sympathy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 08:29 PM
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First of all it’s literally only men saying that they will be arrested or publicly shamed online for approaching women in public so it’s not just women spreading this BS online
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 08:23 PM
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The loudest women online seem to be the ones that have the most issues with men. I really hate how often they speak for “all women” because we don’t all have the same beliefs or opinion s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 08:22 PM
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For example otherwise decent looking but short men are not attractive to most women. "super majority of young men".. yeah I don't know. Don't think so. Granted I think this might vary a lot based on where you live but "super majority" is really pushing it. One-third (33%) of men between the ages of 18 and 30 either think that they are addicted or are unsure if they are addicted to pornography. The share of young men living at home is around 18.6% 40% of young men are obese. The other factors are…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:29 PM
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Enough that society is talking about it and is somewhat mainstream now i.e. Johny Depp, amber heard situation. You’re comparing your struggles to that of a multimillionaire celebrity. Should women live in fear or being put into sexual slavery because of R Kelly ? Also, it's cute you diminished the struggles of men compared to women even though you previously claimed that they both share the same struggles. They do share a lot of the same struggles, false accusations are still not as common as ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 02:55 PM
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I mean the compliments I give are usually along the lines of “I really like your earrings/clothes/handwriting/tattoos” nothing that personal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 02:46 PM
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Yeah I misread his comment. I thought he was saying that he lies about being smart or interesting. On the spectrum of unethical male behaviour this is pretty innocuous so I don’t have a strong opinion on it. It is still wrong but I’m not going to lie and say I don’t compliment people when I want them to like me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 12:40 PM
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Can anyone explain what “pumping and dumping” is ? Is it just approaching women for casual sex or it intentionally lying and saying you want a romantic relationship the leaving after the first sexual encounter?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 12:20 PM
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Yeah I don’t think that’s a big deal everyone does that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:44 AM
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Yeah but everyone knows what “Netflix and chill” means. Are you talking about big lies like lying about birth control, STDs, whether or not you want a relationship, if you already have a girlfriend/wife. Because those are the only serious lies
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:27 AM
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It’s obvious you haven’t thought through what you’re saying, let me point a few things out 1 in 3 women have been assaulted by their partner other than physical/sexual abuse there is emotional and financial abuse that is just as common if you don’t have your own money 100% of your financial decisions (what food you can eat, what car to drive, what clothes to buy) are dependant on the approval of your partner what if he says “ you can only buy x if you have sex with me every day “ what then ? you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:27 AM
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Did you mean “workforce”. You obviously have an incredibly rudimentary understanding of econ. If you increase the workforce that means economic output and GDP increases, a lot of people get richer because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:21 AM
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Not everyone has the money to afford that especially with the cost of food and housing. It’s not realistic in modern society
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:16 AM
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That has nothing to do with women not having economic freedom, it’s because of long working hours, inflation, commute times and the stressfulness of modern society But if women were happier staying at home they would choose to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:13 AM
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Women would be happier if they were stripped of their ability to support themselves and forced to be subservient to a husband
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:11 AM
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Saying they are “completely separate” is pretty ridiculous. With that plan taxes would increase for EVERYONE including the women having the kids, the men fathering the kids, single women and single men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:10 AM
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I have sympathy to an extent but the men here have made it extremely clear that they have 0 sympathy for women. For men who aren’t misogynist and are actually struggling I have empathy for than as much as I do for any person facing life challenges. What I dislike the most is that all the issues with modern dating (because there are many) get laid at the feet of women and their “high standards”. I will never respect people who think like that I am not sexist because I say the exact same thing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 02:15 AM
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Yeah thanks for proving mine, you want sympathy but yet can’t comprehend giving it to other people. This pathetic whiny self pitying behaviour should be reserved for children not adults
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:26 AM
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Yeah I think social isolation and alienation is the #1 cause of the difficulty in dating and all the other dating issues stem from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:25 AM
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Yes I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:22 AM
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You may believe they are “fine” and “normal” but you have no idea how they interact with women. Let’s list out the possible reasons video game addiction unemployment misogyny or just asshole behaviour no interest in dating drug addiction porn addiction alcoholism living in their parents basement fear of approaching women no social skills / friendless unhealthy criminal behaviour I might add to this, but no being ugly is not the only significant factor. I would say the reasons I listed affect a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 08:21 PM
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Yeah this is just a complete cop out and a terrible excuse, be honest with yourself. It’s about laziness and fear of rejection. No man has gotten “exposed” for politely asking a girl out in an appropriate time and place
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 08:15 PM
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I see ugly men in relationships and dating all the time. That answer is just a complete cop out. Just look at how “incels” actually behave and you’ll find the real answer
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:44 PM
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Yeah because men are desperate, pathetic and have no standards. Most of those “thousands of options” are creeps, only after sex, mental ill or have some other serious issue
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:29 PM
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Chances are those men have some serious issues to work through considering the many serious social issues facing young men today
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:26 PM
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“Desperation” isn’t an attractive characteristic, self respect and selectivity is If you actually went outside you would see that in a majority of unbalanced couples the man is uglier. You can hold on to misogynistic beliefs but they’re blinding you to the reality that dating sucks for men and women and it has little to do with women being “too picky” because men are just (if not more) superficial about who they date. A lot of men and women are just not desirable romantic partners for reasons th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:14 PM
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No all the guys who blame women and a lack of sex for ruining their lives fit that description. You literally have 0 understanding of what dating apps are like for women, if we swiped on 50% of men or whatever we would be bombarded with messages. That’s where the gender imbalance becomes an issue. A lot of guys will swipe on and message women they aren’t even attracted too and don’t want to meet because - like I said - they treat it as a video game. Those of the matches that are genuinely intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:47 PM
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This mentality is exactly why young men struggle with dating. OLD is completely artificial and has no similarities to IRL interactions. Are you forgetting that most apps are 80% men ? Men treat it like a video game you can speed run and at the end you get sex. Not even gonna mention how awful male dating profiles look. Young men aren’t going outside, build social skills, talking to women, exercise, do hobbies. They’re inside watching redpill/ incel/ alpha male content and basing their understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:35 PM
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If what you’re trying isn’t working it’s time to reformat your approach
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:33 PM
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Possible, also possible that women are just sleeping with older men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:41 PM
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The main issue is that young men don’t want to face IRL rejection and they don’t have to because of OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:02 PM
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It is possible that women now have higher standards because of dating apps and social media but that’s an inconsequential factor that’s not affecting the rise of male virginity and the other social issues facing young men today The main cause of the issue are serious addictions to video games and pornography fuelled by untreated mental illnesses. The consequences of this is self isolation and alienation. You’ll see that suicide, alcoholism and drug addiction is also rising for young men. I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 01:57 PM
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Nothings stopping you from raising your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 01:49 PM
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That’s ridiculous, it turns into a serious addiction for a lot of men and can destroy romantic relationships. Look at how wealthy only fans models like Belle Delphine are, that is where a lot of young men are spending their time and money
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 01:48 PM
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It’s much more likely that women are just not dating than it is that they are forming harems around attractive men. With inflation and longer working hours a lot of young women are just very busy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 01:45 PM
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What you said literally makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:19 PM
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Yeah not sure where you got this nonsense from but basically no actresses or models have a huge hooked nose or a wide nose
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:17 PM
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Boob sweat, sexual harassment / bullying, can’t go outside without a bra, clothes not fitting, boobs popping out of your bra when you run or go up stairs
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:57 AM
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I’ve seen a lot of fat women that are incredibly attractive because they happen to have a skinny face and minimal stomach fat but carry the weight in their boobs, hips, thighs and ass. Some people are just lucky like that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:51 AM
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You have you just don’t consciously consider it. Having a small nose is like 80% of being “pretty”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:48 AM
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The problem is that a lot of men think that the way they experience attraction is universal when it’s not. I can’t explain it except to say that there are a lot of things that go into it that have nothing to do with appearance. Delayed sexual attraction or whatever you want to call is very real and a lot more overwhelming and intense intense in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:45 AM
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I could never sleep with a complete stranger, but from what I understand a lot of women get into FWB/ONS because of life reasons: they’re too busy, they just go out of a relationship, they have different goals or priorities to their sexual partner. The consensus seems to be that they find both their romantic partners and causal partners physically attractive. There are definitely women that have immediate attraction to one group of men then delayed attraction to another group. But it’s not black…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:32 AM
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Yeah that’s how attraction works for a lot of us. Doesn’t mean they aren’t physically attracted to their partner
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:09 AM
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Not wanting to financially support someone ≠ being a gold digger. Wanting to marry someone rich isn’t even gold digging Gold digging is a person who forms relationships with others purely to extract money from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 03:45 PM
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lack of access to contraception less sexual health education no ability to survive on one income lack of access to entertainment media (tv, computer) so they have to go outside and socialise fundamental religious beliefs that encourage marriage a desire to escape the family home
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 03:27 PM
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So it seems like instead of whining and complaining men should raise their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 03:23 PM
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A lot of things also go along with poverty - normalisation of sexual abuse against women (includes rape, domestic violence and CSA) - lack of access to contraception - survival sex work because of lack of economic opportunities - less sexual health education
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 03:22 PM
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Yeah that’s not what I’m saying. Women see hot men all the time too. The difference is a lot of men think women as a whole are annoying superficial and vapid, that they have nothing to offer except sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 01:44 PM
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A lot of men see women as sexual objects. Meaning that to them, their use is ONLY sex and their desires or wants are immaterial
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 01:34 PM
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The few women who would date openly misogynistic men probably have their own serious issues
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 01:29 PM
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Isn’t it well known now that a lot of incels are physically attractive, it’s just their repulsive personality and mental illnesses that repel people
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 01:26 PM
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What you said is 10x worse than that quote
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 01:18 PM
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Yeah this is really accounts for a lot of the issues men have today. They’re unwilling or unable to form strong friendships with each other and view sex as the only form of intimacy they can have
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 01:15 PM
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Being alone or not has nothing to do with sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 01:14 PM
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There are a couple main factors - cultural messaging from movies and TV that inflate the important of sex - overexposure to sexual images online from porn and social media - the extreme objectification of women (they view women as objects to acquire not as actual autonomous human beings ) - this is the main cause - jealously and resentment of their friends who are sexually successfully and a desire to impress their friends - overall obsession and hyper fixation as a way to avoid dealing with per…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:15 AM
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They guys who brag about being able to tell a woman’s body count just sound like extreme basement dwellers who don’t interact with women at all
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:09 AM
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Empirical data
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 06:50 AM
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Likelihood of that is still infinitely small compared to the hundreds of ways women are fucked over by doing what you’re suggesting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 06:26 AM
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You can’t honestly believe that trusting a man to financially provide for you is a safer bet than trusting the state won’t completely collapse. What kind of insane twisted logic is that. You should do some research into how often men cheat, beat their wives or become disabled
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 06:15 AM
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You can’t be serious. You think it’s a safer bet to rely on a man to provide for you, are you just unaware that most of the single mothers on welfare have already been abandoned by men. Not only in marriage women are required to be live in nannies and maids but also provide 24/7 sexual access. What does the state require ? It is also possible that at the drop of a hat your husband can loose his entire life savings on drugs or gambling, or just on a whim decide to commit financial abuse and be hy…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 06:12 AM
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Yeah my mom fits that description of a suburban mom, but I don’t think most people can afford that lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:24 PM
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You would know because you’ve dated and slept with multiple men right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 02:03 PM
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Complete nonsense, all men do this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 01:54 PM
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You think all women are totally fine with having sex with complete strangers
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 01:46 PM
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It’s become more superficial and that’s why dating is harder now for many people. In countries where there’s social activity between young people (places with high walkability and many communal gathering areas) dating is much more prevalent
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:27 AM
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Use your common sense man, reddit has obviously fucked with your mind. Decades old OLD stats mean nothing because it’s a completely artificial environment Men have higher sex drives, lower impulse control and more of a desire for multiple sexual partners. Of course they cheat more, this should be obvious men are more likely to keep quiet WHAT some of you really need to go outside and touch grass
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:00 AM
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“Female” chores are literally 24/7 jobs (cooking, cleaning, childcare). The chores you listed are once a month activities
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 09:48 AM
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Men cheat more than women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:00 AM
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I think this is just a communication issue. Some women can become more physically attracted to a guy based on their personality, so attraction is still important it just manifests differently. Also a lot of women have unconventional tastes when it comes to male appearances, I’ve seen this first hand
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 10:26 PM
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Admit that they only date men they’re physically attracted to ? Isn’t this common sense ? Do you think women are dating men out of pity or charity
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 09:56 PM
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Anyone who falls for negging or narcissistic behaviour is not someone worth dating
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:16 PM
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This sounds like highschool behaviour. Anyone your attracting with these strategies are probably immature and desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:14 PM
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What are the observations: women like rich tall muscular guys ? Is that really a hidden secret ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:18 PM
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What is TRP advice ? Be confident ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 03:41 PM
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That’s because tinder is like 80% men. What use are sexual propositions if you’re not interested in causal sex ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:54 PM
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This is very true, but it’s also very true that men have just as many privileges not having to deal with the side effects of birth control no fear of sexual or physical assault no fear of cervical cancer no fear of being used for sex less of a worry of being cheated on
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:52 PM
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More are crying about starving in a landfill. Most men aren’t even interested in dating at all today, a lot will pretend to be interested just to use you. We have different problems, you just have issues empathising or relating to other people. Women have to deal with the fear of assault, of getting hpv then cervical cancer, the fear of getting pregnant. Men will get rejected and women get used an manipulated. It is not much different, both can take a mental toll
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:44 PM
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It’s more so they have 0 non sexual matches or 0 non creepy matches. I wasn’t saying all of those things happened to one person, I was just listing examples of things I’ve heard / seen
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:40 PM
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That is extremely painful and uncomfortable and traumatising if the person that you’re with has no regard for your physical well being. You’re just projecting male sexuality onto women and it’s ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:10 PM
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Men control access to relationships because it’s usually women asking for commitment not the other way around. You can’t fuck a guy into being inlove with you. You’re also completely wrong btw. Ugly broke men also lead women on and reject them, use them for sex, lie and manipulate time etc there is not difference there
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:08 PM
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Men will literally use women as warm fleshlights you think that’s enjoyable ? Most women don’t even orgasm from penetration alone. Let alone having to worry about: pregnancy, STDs, whether the random guy you’re hooking up with will assault or kill you. There is literally nothing to be gained from engaging in this
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:52 PM
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You realise the only “evidence” that is used to show men have it so hard dating is decades old OLD stats. What if I pulled up who gets date raped more or who dies of STDs more ? Seeing as we’re cherry picking information
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:45 PM
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You don’t have to and you don’t care be honest with yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:43 PM
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I worded that badly. I meant no non-sexual matches
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:42 PM
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Completely missing the point. You need to learn to empathise and listen to other people. All I hear is people saying [my gender] experiences this but [the opposite gender] would never understand
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:16 PM
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Yes, this is a result of a work culture that centres around being highly productive at all times. People don’t have time or care to socialise
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:58 PM
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You’re right but men still need to do a better job at advocating for themselves. Look at r/mensrights Also I’m not naive, I know that feminist groups will attack men and strip them of resources
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:43 PM
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Women are humans literally JUST LIKE YOU. It’s super disturbing how easily men can other them. My entire life all my hottest friends have experienced ghosting, rejection, getting dumped, getting humiliated, getting cheated on etc etc. I go online and see the exact same thing women who are 10s saying they don’t get matches, no one asks them out, they keep getting ghosted, they get lied to for sex, their boyfriends don’t respect them, they get sexually assaulted and harassed all the time. This gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:40 PM
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Every paragraph of this post is full of nonsense, lies and a repetition of incel talking points. I’ll say for the millionth time that most young men are sexually active and half are dating. His “evidence” that men have it so much harder dating is decades old OLD stats. Let’s look at the date rape statics and see who has it harder in that area. It’s obvious selection bias
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:36 PM
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This literally explains 100% of the problem but they’ll never acknowledge it because they enjoy attacking women too much
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:32 PM
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Yeah this is one of the main issues I’ve been trying to explain. Men are sexually frustrated and because the object of that frustration is women, they get blamed and attacked when the reality is dating is just shitty in general for both genders because of various social factors. A lot of women are facing the same exact problems you are but you can’t acknowledge that because it means letting go of this fictional enemy you’ve created
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:30 PM
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This isn’t true
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:27 PM
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The problem isn’t men wanting relationships, the problem is threefold - men blame 100% of their relationship issues / loneliness / mental illness on “female selectiveness”, there’s lack of accountability / extreme victimisation - men pretend that women are in an extremely privileged position dating and don’t acknowledge that dating can be just as shitty for women - the social factors causing all these issues are ignored so the problem persists
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:26 PM
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It’s just such BS that all the men on here (including OP) are obviously socially inept or extremely anti social and weird yet think their dating experience is universal
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:17 PM
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You don’t understand them or care at all, that has been proved time and time again
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:15 PM
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The problem being 1) men won’t advocate for their own issues 2) the men who do advocate blame 100% of their problems on women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:14 PM
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Women do a shit ton to be attractive to men but this thread is about men asking for advice so what is the point in detailing advice to give women to get a date. Seems like more women are just fine single
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:05 PM
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It’s good advice you just lack social skills
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:01 PM
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Then what do you mean by “sexual oppression”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:56 PM
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So now the truth of it comes out. This isn’t actually about men wanting empathy or understanding, you just want sexual access to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:36 PM
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Men can do many things about it, they would rather whine complain and blame women though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:26 PM
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Your point is stupid. How many men have to deal with false rape accusations or even care about them ? While women have to live in fear because 1 in 5 women are raped in her lifetime. Women also deal with catfishing and shaming just as much. Your entire argument is based on the fact that men have to do more heavy lifting at the start of a relationship. Maybe true Women are expect to be a domestic slave and do all the cooking and cleaning. Does that sound fair either ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:17 PM
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That’s not even true. In something like 40% of marriages the women earns more
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:11 PM
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Nothing you said is correct, I was only pointing out the it’s reasonable for women who have moved out of their parents house to not want to date someone still living at home, because it is mostly men still living at home https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2022/03/24/the-demographics-of-multigenerational-households/ There is no affirmative action in regards to women in universities like their is for men. They are the only ones getting a helping hand. Women get better grades, apply to unive…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:17 AM
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Men also have to deal with their own equivalents. False rape allegations. False accusations. Catfishing. Shaming. I could go on as well. EXACTLY, that’s why this stupid game of “who has it worse” is childish and a waste of time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 07:28 PM
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Who are these women getting married to ? Young women are also earning more than young men, that explains it. The statement is wrong because it ignores all the shit women have to deal with in dating: STDs, pregnancy, rape, sexual harassment, assault, stalking, deception, rejection, ghosting. I could go on
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 06:49 PM
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It gives you stronger social skills and more people to connect to. I think it matters. why not ask your female friends to review your dating profile ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 05:29 PM
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It’s not just about the feedback, it’s also that you learn to be comfortable around women, see them as humans instead of sexual objects, get to know their humour etc etc If you are suicidal from loneliness the first step would be to see a therapist and connect to your friends and family. A lot of these men complaining have 0 close friends, that’s the issue Women can be lonely so idk what you’re referring to, what don’t I understand ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 05:27 PM
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Loser women don’t get corrected because men have no standards. More men live with their parents than women so it’s not just due to “economy and housing”. I have no issue with men complaining about dating being harder, it’s the ones who are saying “women have it so easy, they don’t even have to try” or “I’m literally suicidal because I’m a virgin” are the people I find annoying and ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 05:24 PM
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Do you have friendships with women ? Because that is the first step to getting a girlfriend, learning how to communicate and relate to women. There is also a current crisis of men not going to school, not working and not leaving their parents house. This is likely caused by mental illness and addictions to video games and porn
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 04:58 PM
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Another main problem is that men don’t value friendships with women, that would make dating a lot easier i think. She can introduce you to her friends and give you honest feedback and it will help you relate to women on a more human personal level. Having a female wingman is also much more effective I can understand those men complaining but I don’t understand becoming suicidal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 04:55 PM
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You are the only one pretending otherwise. How many of these men complaining about being single have no friends and only interact with women on OLD? That is literally the entire problem, they need to go outside and learn to interact with people but they don’t want to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 04:50 PM
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Let’s be clear here, we are talking about dating not the criminal justice system or male on male violence. Take a second and think about why tinder is 80% men, it’s because it’s inhospitable for women as they regularly get sexually harassed and stalked. Why are clubs and bars filled with men? Because women get groped and roofied at at bars. More men have killed women in anger then there are men that have died protecting women You don't like to hear that [men] have it better and would then have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 04:46 PM
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It's hypocritical that women expect help, support and equality from men - which men provided so women can be free from their gender roles Are you just going to pretend that women aren’t regularly beaten, raped, sexually harassed and sexually assaulted by men ? You are literally doing EXACTLY what you criticise women for doing, dismissing the issues they have dating as trivial. women don’t reject men because he’s not tall enough or because he doesn’t make enough money. It’s because many women fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 04:28 PM
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You will find the EXACT same thing on this subreddit when women complain about rejection, loneliness and lack of options. Every time a woman expresses that no men are interested in her she’s met with scorn and dismissal If a man is truly suicidal from loneliness it’s because he’s deeply mentally ill and socially isolated (ie he has no friends or family). He needs to restructure his life, set goals and see a therapist. A gf will not fix that, that idea is insane and a symptom of male entitlement.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 04:20 PM
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Men will literally become addicted to video games in their preteens yet it’s still womens fault. Anything to shift accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 04:05 PM
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People like you will repeat verbatim incel talking points then act shocked and outraged when someone calls you out on it. That is childish
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 04:01 PM
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I wasn’t talking about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:57 PM
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This guy literally sounds like he’s watching wildlife in some jungle, it’s incredibly disturbing. “Through observing” = I creepily sit in the corner and watch people have normal interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:54 PM
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Most of the men complaining here - do not respect / hate women - think women have nothing to offer intellectually or emotionally - are socially inept and friendless - will shit on women THEIR OWN AGE ( ie they only want 20 yo) - highly overestimate their own physical attractiveness - are entitled and petulant - have no goals aspirations or hobbies
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:51 PM
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Scarcity of women on the app. It’s 80% men, the men make it inhospitable
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:37 PM
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Never had a relationship, not interested in getting in one right now because of a lot of complicated reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:55 AM
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Why? Just curious cause I don’t hear that often
/r/seduction07/07/22 08:51 AM
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I just want to respond, if a man is rejecting a woman she’s not overweight 99% chance it’s because she’s not pretty enough, too tall or not the right race. So this is exactly the same as women rejecting a fit man for being too short or not handsome enough. Main difference being all the extra shit women have to do to keep up appearances. So yes men reject women all the time because of their facial features
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 06:16 AM
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Mens fault for liking literally every single women bombarding them. Also mens fault for having such bad low effort profiles
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 06:04 AM
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Why should I care about this, this is literally just wealthy entitled men who are complaining that they can’t just have anonymous casual sex with as many young women they want
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 06:03 AM
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What’s it like being a grown man with such a strong victim complex you go into a tirade at the slightest hint of male criticism like an immature petulant child. Men are capable of doing this work but they don’t unless forced. That is the issue, they would rather offload this work onto others.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 05:59 AM
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We are talking about a 2 parent household with one man and one women. Of course if it’s literally only one dad he’s going to be forced to do all of the work. What I’m saying is that in a regular setup the woman is doing 99% of this mental work
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 02:15 AM
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The prettiest girl that everyone knew would go bare face and turn heads. When she put on makeup she had lines of guys shooting their shot. Nobody cares, You’re talking about “the prettiest girl” at a university and thinking that applies to all women it's just to compete most women need makeup or they'll get passed over. So then it is required to get a date then What makes a woman beautiful is 80% her body. Not true at all! Literally it’s the other way around. What famous actresses/models have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 02:14 AM
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Let's see real world examples - I've seen setting up an entire storage area in a basement (because I was helping), moving things in and out of storage, moving furniture, yard work, repair work, putting furniture together, resolving issues with vehicles, installed appliances, etc. These tasks are usually only required once every 3 months to once every 5 years It's your sense of self importance believing things will be in disarray without you (the "you" being a woman). Life goes on without you. Pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 02:07 AM
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We know we just don't say anything. Most don’t because of how prevalent it is The muscle demand of a handsome man and pretty woman is vastly different. While this is true what makes a beautiful women is almost 100% based on genetics with some plastic surgery. Can’t be worked on in the gym to become beautiful The only things women have to do extra is fix her longer hair and shave. You’re underselling how expensive and time consuming this is. Especially if you have naturally curly hair Makeup is o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:55 AM
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Managing finances, making sure money is coming into the household, picking up heavy things, fixing things, the list goes on. Managing finances definitely falls under the mental work women do. “picking up heavy things” isn’t a chore, what does this even mean ? I don’t know if you’re being purposefully naive or are just this ignorant in general but the main problem of mental / emotional women is that men don’t realise it exists and will not do any of these tasks without being told to do them. It i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:48 AM
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Well I am single so I feel that gives me some amount of authority
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:41 AM
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Actually READ the original post or LOOK at the image posted . It literally shows men will not match with black women disproportionally
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:39 AM
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You can’t tell the difference, most men think this woman is wearing no makeup when she has a full face. All men need to do is regular exercise (same as women) to have an attractive body, no women is requiring a steroid addled body building. That’s unattractive women also need to have a decent facial structure to be considered pretty, this is entirely genetic and can’t be worked on in the gym. I would say it’s even harder for women to be considered pretty because it’s only women doing all the fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:36 AM
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Men don’t like a wide range of appearances, it’s: young white or Asian women with a pretty face who are slim or curvy . With the most important factor being your facial features, something you can’t control Women are shown to have a wider variety of men they find attractive. From the very first time you start a conversation through any dates you have. You have to make them laugh and steer the conversation to keep her engaged. This sounds like conversing with a child. If this is how a conversatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:26 AM
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Men literally do nothing except for shave their face and get hair cuts occasionally The problems is men don’t know what women look like without makeup because so many women wear it everyday. You can’t tell the difference between “natural makeup” and “no makeup”. Women are also expected to shave their whole body including legs, pubic hair and torso. Not to mention pluck their eyebrows and style their hair
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:28 AM
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What physical labour do men do ? Mowing the lawn and other once a month tasks? The mental / emotional work women do is literally a 24/7 job
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:25 AM
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So men don’t care about their child’s or partners welfare and wellbeing. Does that sound reasonable ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:22 AM
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The problem is it’s only women doing these tasks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:21 AM
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I am not the one who changed the definition, it seems that online feminists groups did that. I don’t care, call it mental work whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:20 AM
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Dating apps are upwards of 80% men, you can’t gleam any insight of female attraction from using them. Men will mass swipe right on every single women overwhelming them with messages. Most of these men will treat the app like a video game and not even respond to the women they like at all. Vast majority of the men that do respond are looking for a one off sexual interaction. OLD dating is just images and ignoring the fact the 90% of men have terrible 0 effort profiles, most women require some kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:18 AM
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This is true, the inventor of the term is pretty shocked on how it’s been co-opted like this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:58 PM
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That is not what (the current definition of) emotional labour or mental load means, it’s - managing and dolling out all household tasks - keeping a grocery list - comforting children - planning events and parties - keeping all contact information of family and friends - knowing whose clothes are whose - remembering when the last doctor visit was - reminding your partner when they need to call their parents - remembering birthdays - buying all presents and gifts It is all the mental or emotional …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:55 PM
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Any concern to you at all that all this effort is only done by one gender
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:48 PM
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I don’t know where you got this information but going to the gym doesn’t make your boobs perkier or bigger. Most female celebrities also get their nose done and lip filler and cheek filler. None of this can be “achieved easily”. Also women are expected to wear makeup and shave their entire bodies to be attractive. Neither of which men have to do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:35 PM
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Bold faced lie
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 09:22 PM
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The bar is high for women if you look at how many cosmetic procedures and surgeries famous pornstars actresses and models get to enter the industry
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 09:20 PM
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You know OLD is literally 80% men right. And you were arguing it accurately reflects real life dating
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:20 PM
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Sounds a lot bette than being with someone you don’t like
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:09 PM
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If it was consensual then it’s not rape
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 05:47 AM
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Nope. There are enough creepy balding dirty old men that harass young women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 02:57 AM
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It actually isn’t considering the cortex is necessary for pain perception and that isn’t developed until the 3rd trimester
/r/MensRights05/07/22 09:23 PM
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Healthy and white teeth through vit K2 Acne is caused by diet, hormones are affected by diet, washing your face with water is more than enough. Your face is covered in oil (sebum), excessive oil production causes acne, oil is literally resistant to water. Rinsing your face with water accomplishes nothing. Hope you recognise now how nonsensical what you’re saying is Acne is also caused by hair follicles clogged by oil and dead skin cells, which requires soap and water. Likely also a physical or c…
/r/seduction05/07/22 09:12 PM
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Honestly I am completely shocked how some people have such little awareness or empathy of other peoples lives. I’m going to respond in case you read this There are multiple causes of acne, acne can be caused by your diet, your hormones or not washing your face enough. I’m not going to defend the profession of medicine. If someone stabs you in the stomach best of luck fixing that for yourself too And yeah, men appreciate it, No they expect it, there’s a difference in the event of a war you can se…
/r/seduction05/07/22 08:07 PM
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You’re assuming that your personal unique experience of fixing your acne is universal. The facts are skincare products can resolve acne and slow the ageing process Shaving your hair is normal and hygienic. Yet it is only women who have to shave from the eyebrows down, you see the double standard here ? Washing your face with water? sure. That is rinsing, not washing, it accomplishes nothing never plucks her eyebrows - again, you don't add toxic chemicals that fake enhance your beauty. Are you re…
/r/seduction05/07/22 07:22 PM
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You only notice plastic surgery is done, if it’s done badly or obnoxiously. That’s why men like yourself think it’s unattractive. Trust me any women that followed your advice exactly would have terrible luck dating because of how our society works You really think a woman who - never wears makeup - never washes her face - never shaves her body hair - never plucks her eyebrows - never styles her hair - dresses in cheap clothes Would have any amount of success considering what is the social expect…
/r/seduction05/07/22 06:44 PM
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The whole point about makeup is that you’re not supposed to notice it. Men can’t tell the difference between natural makeup and no makeup, they also don’t know how to tell apart natural hair vs wigs, weaves and extensions. Most men don’t have a skincare routine, they don’t have hair care routine , they don’t pluck their eyebrows and they don’t shave all their body hair. Not even going to bring up how 90% of plastic surgery and body modification is done by women Also there’s a big distinction whe…
/r/seduction05/07/22 05:29 PM
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Here’s a solution, just fuck other men. That way all the women can stay pure and virginal and all the men can have as much causal sex as they want
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 05:21 PM
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They do care about it, it’s just not the only thing. Social skills and attitude are also very important
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 05:19 PM
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Caring about something so inconsequential is a sign of extreme insecurity and jealously, maturity is recognising this flaw in yourself and working to get rid of it. The men who complain about this just sound spiteful and bitter, this also completely reduced women to their reproductive organs as it that is all they offer
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 05:18 PM
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Leagues are not comparable between men and women because women just put more effort into their appearance. If you were going to make some objective ranking there were be mostly men at the bottom and mostly women at the top
/r/seduction05/07/22 05:14 PM
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Millions of lonely people. Nothing to do with women A huge economic crisis for middle-aged women. What crisis ? Social mistrust and anxiety. Nothing to do with women Millions of kids underserved by single parent homes. Seems like this is due to women not being selective enough and sleeping with deadbeat men. The opposite of what you described is the problem. If you actually cared about single parent households you would also be criticising men for abandoning their children. It's all about you an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:59 PM
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Are being athletic and in shape “uncontrollable traits”, what about having a good job ? Compare that to the traits men looks for: youthful, pretty, big boobs, hips and western features. None of which can be controlled
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:16 PM
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Your goal is to sleep with as many women as possible right ? Yet your disgusted by women who have casual sex ? You see how fucking stupid that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:13 PM
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No one is “excluded from the dating market” some men are just so repelling no one wants to be around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:12 PM
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You’ll see it on full display when they talk about how their “asshole” friends are able to approach women. They sit uncomfortable and watch while 2 people are talking and then think they can determine everything about the interaction “chad strikes again” or “beta gets shut down” It’s obvious these guys don’t understand human interactions, humour or compatibility. They think of it as a video game where everyone has an easily identifiable number out of 10 and that determines your entire life traje…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:06 PM
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Your source is literally a religious organisation, incredibly biased. Regardless that study is not basing their findings on our accepted definition of human pain and is instead using conjecture and wild theories
/r/MensRights05/07/22 01:59 PM
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Is telling a doctor “I was raped” accusing anybody ? How is would what you’re describing even work ?
/r/MensRights05/07/22 01:37 PM
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the Journal of the American Medical Association in 2005 by experts from the University of California, San Francisco, and elsewhere, and their report concluded: “Evidence regarding the capacity for fetal pain is limited but indicates that fetal perception of pain is unlikely before the third trimester.” The third trimester begins at 27 to 28 weeks from conception. They also cite studies using electroencephalography that have shown the capacity for functional pain in preterm newborns “probably doe…
/r/MensRights05/07/22 01:35 PM
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An hour a day is incredibly generous in my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 08:10 AM
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If I’m understanding this, female sexuality is a disgrace, dysfunctional and broken because women won’t sleep with you. What is there to “worry about” here exactly? Every society has undesirable reject men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 08:06 AM
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You only believe that because you have a terrible understanding of what rape is, it’s not some man taking advantage of you in a dark alley. Most of the time it’s your bf, husband or best friend doing something to you when your sleeping or out of it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 08:00 AM
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What she’s saying makes a lot more sense than what you’re saying. What I hear commonly is that even women that engage in cause sex don’t enjoy it and don’t find it emotionally satisfying. Women and mens sexuality just works completely differently like she described.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 07:56 AM
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I don’t think it’s for validation
/r/seduction05/07/22 07:01 AM
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Solution: don’t settle and date people who you like
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 03:31 AM
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What precautions do you think women take that are unreasonable ? No the point doesn't still stand, your entire point is that you make an observation about the current state of society while switching between justifying that state and defending people in that state by saying that they've been raised that way and it's not their fault, depending on what I'm trying to argue against. I’ve said from the start that I don’t care about the numbers because it’s impossible to get an accurate risk assessmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:04 PM
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If you are aware you have been socially conditioned and now know that information is not accurate, there is nothing for you to do besides working on losing that conditioning or at least acting like you have. Anything else is just stating you have a problem but are unwilling to do anything about it. Complete lack of understanding on how risk assessment works. The entire way society is built is to prepare for events that only occur 1 in 100 times and taking precautions. Why even where a seatbelt o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:25 PM
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What is difficult to understand here? They’re saying that women having higher standards than men is logical and pragmatic. It saves time and leads to better outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:15 PM
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Seems like your projecting some past issues in this comment. What your describing isn’t a common occurrence
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:10 PM
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No men are providers anymore, women (even mothers) are expected to work at least part time starting when the kids can walk. Add that to the fact that the women had to do all the domestic labour and household management. How is that a better life than living alone at peace ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:08 PM
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You yourself admitted multiple times now it's mostly about how women are told over and over again that they are in danger and must fear men. That counts as information If you are now presented with actual information that counters that narrative and you still continue to think the same way, you are being illogical. Nothing you’ve presented shows that date rape is not a real danger to women. Just because something has a small likelihood of happening doesn’t mean you shouldn’t prepare for it vigil…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:56 PM
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When something doesn't measure up to reality it is by definition illogical, just because it's "logical" people can get manipulated into believing something doesn't give that believe a justification for existing. That’s no what illogical is, illogical means lacking sense or sound reasoning. We can only make decisions on the things we know and the information that’s available to us. That information shows rape is a real danger. I have literally no clue anymore what you are trying to argue. It’s no…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 02:30 PM
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If you start talking about "primal responses" to conscious stances people hold we might as well stop debating since apparently we've totally surrendered to feels over reals. It’s a primal response but it’s not illogical, as a college student we are told repeatedly to be aware and vigilant of sexual assault by the university, by our parents and by our friends and family. The media also loves to spend broadcast whenever a woman is raped and it’s a common trope in TV shows and movies. I’m not going…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:50 PM
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1 in 5 women have experienced a completed rape https://www.cdc.gov/injury/features/sexual-violence/index.html Less than 1% of rapes are prosecuted https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/10/06/less-than-percent-rapes-lead-felony-convictions-least-percent-victims-face-emotional-physical-consequences/ Already been established that men will rape when they can get away with it and 99% of the time they get off scot free, no consequences to speak of this isn’t a comic book. There’s no vigilante g…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:53 AM
2

What age did you set your profile to. Because women who are 18 swiping on men who are 30+ are likely desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:41 AM
15

Do you often go on dates with men to be aware of how they dress for dates
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:29 AM
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If I ask why believing that erroneously conditioned fear then is correct you say that having the fear is actually true and good. This is completely missing the point because almost all fears aren’t “correct” or rational. That’s not the point, it’s more of a primal response. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong I’m just saying it exists and can’t be talked out of. The reason I said the data doesn’t matter is because I can’t find any but if you can I’ll be curious to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:42 PM
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It isn’t mostly true, what is mostly true is that people of both genders tend to date people their own age. I also strongly dislike the “legal age” 18 being thrown around because the implication is they would go younger if the law was different. I say at the very least leave teenage girls alone. This incorrect perception is because much pornography men consume is based on the sexualisation of teenage girls and it’s disturbing, fetishising young women is not normal and it’s warped their minds int…
/r/seduction03/07/22 03:02 PM
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It isn’t mostly true, what is mostly true is that people of both genders tend to date people their own age. I also strongly dislike the “legal age” 18 being thrown around because the implication is they would go younger if the law was different. I say at the very least leave teenage girls alone. This misunderstanding is because much pornography men consume is based on the sexualisation of teenagers and it’s disturbing, it’s warped their minds into thinking this is is reality. People are right wh…
/r/seduction03/07/22 03:00 PM
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It’s not, but considering how often I hear about my friends being sexually harassed by older men and hating it. The viral videos and stories of creepy old men thinking they can get teenagers why not save yourself the humiliation and take my advice
/r/seduction03/07/22 01:46 PM
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I ask or care to hear your life story. This dumbass literally said 18 yo women are attracted to 40 yo men which is disgusting. Some men are genuinely delusional
/r/seduction03/07/22 01:33 PM
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Well they are right to fear them because if anyones going to murder or rape them it’s likely to be your intimate partner. You were talking about the dangers of going on a first date with a guy and I don’t know if there’s data on that so there’s no point in arguing how dangerous it is. I will say if we ignore assault or rape a lot of guys are just pushy and sexually aggressive in general, which can be scaring or intimidating so calling it a “falsehood” is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 01:30 PM
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By age 35 66% of men will experience hair loss, not to mention 70% of men are overweight/obese, most of which are over forty. So you are the exception. I’m not overweight if that’s what your implying
/r/seduction02/07/22 10:58 PM
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No, im not trying to body shame. Just pointing out that romantically teenage girls aren’t generally interested in men 35+ despite what the entertainment industry has made people believe
/r/seduction02/07/22 10:52 PM
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Comparing DV stats, try and count by which group is sent to the hospital, maimed or killed more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:21 PM
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I don’t have to admit that because it doesn’t. Just think for a second, why are people scared of planes but are fine with being in cars when it is clear cars are 10x more dangerous? If we’re talking about what to actually fear it’s terrible diet and a sedentary lifestyle. Since childhood girls are told one wrong move and we’ll be raped and murdered. Combined with the fact that men are physically more imposing and every time a woman is killed or assaulted it’s a major news story up to months afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:17 PM
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You’re conflating age with status and wealth when they are not the same. Visible signs of ageing in men are unattractive to women same as the other way around
/r/seduction02/07/22 08:49 PM
1

Lesbians aren’t usually afraid their sexual partner will attack them, and it’s generally not a good idea to catfish people
/r/seduction02/07/22 08:37 PM
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So perverted
/r/seduction02/07/22 08:03 PM
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It’s usually the men with no “resources” to speak of who think young women are going to be chasing them when they’re older. I can say as a 20 yo woman that this is pure delusion
/r/seduction02/07/22 08:02 PM
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Think for a second on what is there for me to gain dating someone 2 DECADES older than me. The idea is honestly disgusting and sick.
/r/seduction02/07/22 07:15 PM
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Hilarious man. I have money and no I’m not jealous of women who sell their bodies to old men. As if wealthy older men are some prize that difficult to obtain
/r/seduction02/07/22 06:36 PM
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That is not unique to men, some women look better when they’re older too. They are still the exception
/r/seduction02/07/22 06:13 PM
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Thanks for stated the obvious, but those are signs of ageing and are not attractive
/r/seduction02/07/22 06:11 PM
2

I am literally a 20 year old woman and I’m describing how I see 35+ year old men. Also not overweight
/r/seduction02/07/22 06:07 PM
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You’re using a misunderstanding of biology to defend your perversions, the average age difference between married couples is only 2.3 years. And if women are so attracted to providers why would they marry someone who makes less than them ? Some men fetishise young women because they’re naive and inexperienced, easier to manipulate
/r/seduction02/07/22 04:27 PM
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How many aren’t balding, chubby, wrinkly, have sagging/droopy skin or a combination of all the other signs of ageing
/r/seduction02/07/22 04:15 PM
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They’ve watched too much school girl porn and now think it’s reality
/r/seduction02/07/22 04:11 PM
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This is more so true when women couldn’t work. Today however women are financially independent. That’s why in almost half of marriages women earn more, also why the average age difference between couples is 1-4 years. Unless you’re talking about a sugar baby relationship (which is sex work) what I said is true. This obsession with young women (18-21) is disturbing and unhealthy
/r/seduction02/07/22 04:10 PM
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Go right ahead, but the idea that young women are attracted to balding chubby middle aged men is a male fantasy fuelled by the porn industry
/r/seduction02/07/22 03:57 PM
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You’re completely missing the point, it’s not about how real the danger is. It’s also about fear. If someone women scams you for a free meal, you’ll be disappointed and move on. However if someone rapes you, you’re going to traumatised for life so the consequences are different. And because women are aware of these consequences and the fact the fact that the dangers of sexual sexual assault have been drilled into them since childhood you have to live with this fear continuously. That’s why women…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:50 PM
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No it absolutely isn’t. I would say leave young women alone unless you want to look like a pervert
/r/seduction02/07/22 03:36 PM
1

This isn’t Reynhard Sinaga, this is another Asian man with the same MO as him
/r/MensRights02/07/22 03:24 PM
1

If you live near a university campus you can try going to parties and events there.
/r/seduction02/07/22 05:23 AM
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Don’t you have friends to hang out with / go to bars and parties with
/r/seduction02/07/22 05:13 AM
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Did you not read what I wrote? Or are you intentionally misrepresenting what I wrote As you’ve said many times it’s not actually the cost of education and housing itself that’s the issue. As in it’s not that they have a dream of being a doctor but the cost is too high. It’s that the “cost of wife” that’s too high. I actually don’t believe this and I think it is very misandristic. There really is a plague of apathy, mental illness, addiction and isolation that for many reasons is affecting young …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:58 AM
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So you enjoy seeing news reports of incels committing mass murders ? And your excited to be seeing this happen more ? I won’t be having children no need to feel sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 06:34 PM
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I hate to break it to you man but fantasising about some incel uprising where all the sweaty neckbeards take over isn’t normal behaviour and is a sign of being seriously mentally disturbed insufferable and repellant to women. An iq of 100 is literally average how is that an insult ? Projection ? Are you accusing me of repelling women when I literally am one ? No loans I have wealthy parents
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 06:31 PM
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I think you’re coming from a place of hurt and rejection, in my opinion it’s incredibly misandristic to imply all the serious issues men are now facing (alcoholism, suicide, chronic mental illness, addictions, falling grades, apathy) which are causing them to drop out of society are due to the fact that they’re single. Trying to improve your life for some hypothetical women is futile and immature. It also won’t work. The problem is a lack of inner motivation and hope for the future. I suspect so…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:27 PM
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Most men are actually well adjusted and reject incel ideology. You’re just describing yourself. Seek therapy instead of planning for an apocalypse that’s not coming
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:11 PM
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Society isn’t going to collapse because of an incel uprising, restrict your fantasies to your moms basemen t
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:10 PM
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Im acutely aware of how insufferable you are, no need to worry. Women can probably sense how deeply disturbed you are and avoid you. I’m not surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:04 PM
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A playground if you enjoy sexual harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:20 PM
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You have it the other way around, women’s standards have not risen. Men have just become less dateable, a lot of men are already anti social but now they have the technology to completely socially isolate themselves through video games and pornography. They start when they are preteens and don’t stop when they’re adults, women are not involved. What is attractive about a man who is unemployed or makes minimum wage who lives with his parents? A university degree is necessary for becoming a desira…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:17 PM
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A lot of men (90%) have terrible profiles and some of them just need to put in a lot more effort - this isn’t true for all of them but a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:07 PM
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That is absolutely not how women use OLD, that is how men use it. A big reason why apps like tinder are inhospitable to women and the gender divide is now 80/20 or something ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:05 PM
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Never said it did.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/22 01:56 PM
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Weinstein had a wife, listen man it’s not your appearance I see hideous people in relationships all the time, it’s 100% your insufferable personality that’s repelling women. Where did I say “success with women has nothing to do with appearance”. You “literally said there are no sexually active ugly men” which is total horshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:55 PM
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It’s not misandrist to point out reality, video game addiction is usually a coping mechanism brought on by other serious mental illnesses. Alcoholism, opioid addiction, overdoses and liver disease is also rising for young men along with lower labour market participation. There’s no point in denying reality
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/22 07:23 AM
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Just join on campus clubs and go to on campus parties. If your young enough I doubt anyone would notice
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/22 07:20 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 04:21 AM
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Lower on General intelligence (iq) too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:20 AM
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There are many things wrong with your post - there’s no objective way for you to determine if you actually look “average” or below average - even if the pictures you took were clear they could still be awkward or not flattering - you shouldn’t swipe on people you aren’t attracted to - boring conversations with dull replies are not unique to women, that’s just the nature of OLD - you seem to have given up extremely easily with minimal effort, it takes years for people to establish a LTR - Dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:10 AM
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Some people use the app as a source of entertainment
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:03 AM
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If what you’re saying is actually true there’s no chance there’d be no physical evidence of it. These “quotas” must be written down somewhere. Every office has lazy people who are difficult to fire
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/22 02:47 AM
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It’s about agency, basically don’t sexualise women in an inappropriate context when they obviously don’t want that kind of attention and it’s one sided. It’s fine to call your girlfriend sexy but don’t say it to a cashier or your colleague.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 05:43 PM
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If you’re just looking at people in their 30s there are more single men than women
/r/MensRights30/06/22 01:55 PM
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So you know this because of conversations you’ve had with people in the industry ? I’ve read articles about technical engineering schools that get government funding shutting down because of too few female students but nothing about workplaces being affected in the same way
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/22 01:42 PM
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An example of an industry or workplace complaining that female quotas are harming their ability to hire qualified people
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/22 01:27 PM
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They must’ve changed it. Here’s another one The Hubertus W.V. Willems Scholarship for Male Students is awarded annually to a male, US citizen who attends an accredited institution in the United States and is majoring in one of the following fields: Engineering, Chemistry, Physics or Mathematical Sciences.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 01:25 PM
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You are obviously quick to dismiss what any individual women or man has to say because 99% of them would disagree with your baseless claims. You can invoke “data” and “proof” all you want none of it has materialised so far, you’ve been talking about your experiences with extreme rejection and generalising. women don’t care that much about what you say in old You have proof for this right? This is literally absurd, anyone with experience dating wouldn’t say something this stupid. If she’s speakin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:22 PM
-7

The Sanderson Fellowship, a $5,000 [$3,700 USD] award available to only to males in the Political Studies College at the University of Saskatchewan who wish to study at LSE,
/r/MensRights30/06/22 12:23 PM
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Male only scholarships exist but they are much rarer
/r/MensRights30/06/22 11:46 AM
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I think that’s extremely reasonable. I would never see a male gynaecologist for similar reasons
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/22 08:06 AM
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Do you have any source / articles for this
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/22 08:05 AM
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Why would anyone take your advice, you obviously have no idea how dating works. This subreddit isn’t for incel content man. Unattractive men who are actually nice to be around and likeable have no trouble dating
/r/seduction30/06/22 07:50 AM
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I actually much prefer getting “hi” and “hello” compared to cheesy pickup lines even if they are non sexual. I think that’s a personal thing tho. It’s this strange distinction your making between a “chad” who has everything handed to him and an average guy who struggles to get a crumb, like there’s a hard line between the two and they have distinct separate experiences. In reality it’s much more complicated than that. Your success on tinder is determined by your location, how good at conversatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:38 AM
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Tinder is “real world dating” seeing as 39% of people meet their partner online. I didn’t pull it out of my ass. That’s been my personal experience. Many men are very successful on tinder and they don’t receive the same kind of sexual harassment and stalking behaviour many women have been proven to experience. If tinder is so great for women in your mind how come it’s such a sausage fest. Haven’t seen one example of this “generational data” yet. Women may be having more sex but is it casual / no…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 04:50 AM
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No I don’t, if someone takes care of themselves they’ll look better for longer. Most people don’t take care of themselves though. It’s mainly only women who are doing expensive procedures to make themselves look young too
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:35 AM
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I think you get recommended to follow women you have mutuals with, that might be a way to find people
/r/seduction29/06/22 11:16 PM
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I think Hollywood gives people a warped perception of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:55 PM
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This is absolutely not true, I was shock to see how gross looking 30+ yo men can be. A lot of them are already balding. Unless you’re describing a sugar baby relationship dynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:21 PM
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What stats ? The same stats that show 72% of men are sexually active ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:16 PM
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Lots of my female friends have ONS, fwb etc. but the men they were hooking up with were uglier than them most of the time, some of the time they were on the same level. “Having guys on the side”, you mean cheating ? No I don’t know anyone who is a cheater and men are known for doing that behaviour more frequently
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:48 PM
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Along with most men
/r/seduction29/06/22 04:12 PM
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The men on "my 600 pound life" have wives and girlfriends despite being broke and unattractive. If as you say being 'funny and charming' can make up for being ugly and broke then looks aren't all that matters and my point is proven
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:22 PM
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Completely missed the point
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:19 PM
1

Practice active listening, defined as Active listening is the practice of preparing to listen, observing what verbal and non-verbal messages are being sent, and then providing appropriate feedback for the sake of showing attentiveness to the message being presented. This form of listening conveys a mutual understanding between speaker and listener.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:04 PM
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Act genuinely interested in her life and what she has to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:58 PM
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You’re being calling an incel because your repeating verbatim the core tenets of incel beliefs. Can’t think a more accurate characterisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:56 PM
2

If it’s a celebrity crush than that’s not a stranger approaching you
/r/seduction29/06/22 04:45 AM
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Listen you can blame others all you want, you have made it extremely clear you would make a terrible partner. Why would anyone want to date someone who’s angry, bitter and resentful, would you ? You need to work on yourself and become someone who can be a benefit to someone else not a burden. And I’m sorry but it’s kind of funny how some men will say the most bigoted misogynistic things and then end it off with, “why won’t women date me?” Women are not trophies to be given to the “winners”, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:32 AM
2

Your 3 random examples don’t disprove my point. I’ll restate that even poor men divorce, remarry and have other LTR, no different than rich men. As the majority of adults are in serious committed relationships. I can think of only 2 celebrities that are well known for having harems So because your friend circle does something you have to generalise it to all young women. I’ll remind you that having a ONS ≠ “hunting down a Chad”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:24 AM
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I read your previous source and it didn’t support any of your nonsensical claims. I’ll repeat again that 27% ≠ 1 in 3. I’m sorry for triggering what looks like a complete emotional meltdown and mental break on your part. I’m not countering or debunking anything, just pointing out a simple fact that you provided nothing to support what your saying Just to be clear your mocking me for being 20? While you appear to be a grown man who can’t do basic math spending time making up fake dating statistic…
/r/MensRights29/06/22 03:17 AM
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“There are no ugly men sexually active” is what I responded to. I’ve seen many unattractive men in relationships but that’s the only “proof” I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:27 AM
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I’m 20
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:35 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:04 PM
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So no source for any of the claims you’ve made - almost half of men haven’t had sex in the past 2 years - 2/3 of men barely get laid - 1 in 3 men under 30 have not had sex after the age of 18 ( 27% ≠ 1 in 3) - many married aren’t sleeping with their wives - Only 1 in 4 men are having casual sexual relationships
/r/MensRights28/06/22 10:41 PM
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A good case study in how someone can deteriorate so completely after consuming hours of misogynistic content. You don’t even sound like a normal person, your vocabulary has been completely corrupted. Think about how 99% of the richest and most powerful handsome men are in committed marriages with children, not running some harem. Men really only think that women are out there hunting down attractive men to have ONS with because that’s what they want to do. It’s not reality. Your mind is fucked b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:51 PM
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Yeah anyone as deluded as him is literally incapable of logic or coherent thoughts, it’s like arguing with a wild animal or a brick wall. Any rational response will just illicit more incel talking points. His only comeback is just “all women are liars”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:37 PM
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Undesirable men love to pretend their experience is universal
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:46 PM
1

Politicians have been trying to help average guys, it just never gets media attention
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:46 PM
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I think it’s actually a good thing that people who have these unhinged opinions aren’t able to reproduce. It has nothing to do with their looks they’re just deeply mentally unwell Ask any of the many ugly women or men who are sexually active and they’ll tell you that they just approach, people in their league and have great success with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:44 PM
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You’re really portraying yourself as an extreme neck beard / social outcast who has gotten all their opinions from Reddit incel forums. You know how women think because you read romance novels and creepily stalk couples interacting. Is that what these “observations” are ? You in the corner eaves dropping and staring at well adjusted social people ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:42 PM
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Disturbingly the most popular OF models (like Bell Delphine) dress up as children too. There's a symbiotic relationship here where more demand -> more supply -> more demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:34 PM
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Do you have a source for that
/r/MensRights28/06/22 05:32 PM
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Your point ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:17 PM
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Baseless and incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:42 PM
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I think there are some male sluts that are good people ie they are honest about their intentions with their partner. Promiscuous men might have less casual sex for a while but I don’t think this “movement” will last very long. Women that enjoy casual sex will continue to do so.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 02:23 PM
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All men that have sex are fuck boys? Yikes
/r/MensRights28/06/22 02:03 PM
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I very much agree with the last paragraph, I’m just pointing out that the pornography men consume has a serious negative effect on their own minds and innumerable negative consequences on society. I know all porn stars are 18+, but studios will hire the most young and childlike looking women, dress them up as “school girls” then film graphic sex scenes with them. This is very explicitly the fetishisation of children, likely leading some men to strengthen their attraction to very young women. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:01 PM
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What, a majority of men have had sex, are you just talking about men on Reddit ?
/r/MensRights28/06/22 12:51 PM
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Except that university admissions and scholarships and bursaries are 2 completely separate things and one doesn’t influence the other
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:44 PM
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I am aware of that. But the sales tax on tampons is something that only women are forced to pay. Nothing similar exists for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:41 PM
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Let’s be aware of what we’re comparing here: young girls and women reading erotic novels about were wolves and vampires in libraries, at school and on the bus compared to men in their basements watching hours of “barely legal step brother / step sister ” pornography that involves women being assaulted or degraded. Take out the rare exception of the “crazy fan girl” how many women need to be treated for serious erotic fiction addictions or how often does it affect their sex life and lead to the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:34 PM
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You can’t drain your bank account spending money on a book character or actor in return for them responding to you. Women don’t actually believe that they’re in a relationship with a fictional book character. Not even mentioning the many men who have stalked and sexually assaulted / harassed / murdered female content creators. Men will develop serious pornography addictions and will watch online twitch streamers for 10 hours a day paying hundreds of dollars for a sliver of their attention. It’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:36 AM
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That’s exactly what I’m saying, there’s flirting / banter / building a rapport and then there’s being propositioned. About 75% of OLD interactions have been imo sexually inappropriate. That’s why (among many other reasons) women are such an extreme minority on tinder. This is also why women don’t see it as a “privilege” getting a substantial amount of messages / likes on tinder You can’t speak to what the “vast majority” of men send to women on tinder unless you’re a trans man. I’ve been sent th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:39 AM
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I disagree with your first point, in OLD or with a stranger if they start the interaction with something sexually explicit or a request for sex then my only thought is: they want to have a one off emotionless sexual encounter. These requests imo are disgusting and pretty perverse things to say to a complete strange and I’m very much not asexual. From numerous accounts a lot of other women feel the same about this It’s very different than casually dating someone and you guys hu or having a fwb or…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:39 AM
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What does that have to do with dating? 90% of the men that slide into womens DMs are creeps and perverts
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:28 AM
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The entire concept of doing that is just disgusting to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:16 AM
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The main difference being men develop parasocial relationships with OF models and streamers and actually feel a romantic attachment to these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:15 AM
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You’re projecting male sexuality onto women. Wanting sex in a serious relationship is very different from wanting causal sex. Not wanting casual sex doesn’t make you asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:13 AM
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The only way you would think most men look better than their girlfriends is if youre homosexual. I mean look at Harvey Weinstein and his ex wife. It actually does disprove it because those men are attracting women based on their personality and building a rapport not their looks. No relationship is built on just physical appearance. I’ll just say you have a complete misunderstanding of how female sexuality works. It is something I experience first hand on a daily basis and have for a decade. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:14 AM
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It doesn’t matter what womens profiles look like because men have low barriers on who they will sleep with. You only think women are terrible at describing what attracts them because it doesn’t fit into your misogynistic world view. Maybe if you actually respected women and didn’t view them as animals to “catch” you’d have better luck dating. I have no reason to lie about anything. Women being picker in OLD actually supports the fact that they care about things other than looks because if they h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:05 AM
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Yes, but a lot of man hands are sexually attractive in general while not being sexually stimulating. I think I might be weird but I’ve only really thought “I would like to have sex with this person” like 3 times in total but I find a lot of men of various shapes / sizes / races sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:55 AM
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It is. Multiple articles have been written on this if you want to do your own research. Never said women don’t have more scholarships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:52 AM
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Yes, but it’s more so their physical presence in general. This has been said to death but mens hands are very attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:37 PM
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You should’ve said this nonsense to start will. You don’t need a romantic partner to have children and a family, you already have a family. And you are perfectly capable of adopting or fostering a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:56 PM
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You can determine whether your child is yours biologically with a $20 gas station DNA test. You’re comparing that to 40 years of monthly pain and suffering. Experiencing various cancers and 9 months of pregnancy. If you want to control whether or not you have a child vasectomies and condoms are available to you. Cat calling is street harassment, not compliments. It is literally terrifying and traumatising depending on the age and location. Stop being naive. When I said “violence against women” i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:48 PM
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