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Yes. I don’t shit test a man but sure. And those TRP PUA yes I would feel uncomfortable. I don’t see that as masculine at all but makes me scared.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/22 06:31 AM
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On average tes
/r/ExRedPill25/06/22 10:11 PM
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What of it? Some part of it is disproving redpill, some is sarcasm etc.
/r/ExRedPill25/06/22 07:16 PM
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Honestly, I think a man who is into RP, belives in the wall, and thinks women’s value decreases is more likely to be chested on. With someone who tells her the opposite. Women don’t cheat because some other guy was hot, they cheat on someone who is more emotionally there. Was the guy likely hot? Well, studies show masculine men tend to be nicer to women and both pay more but also listen more, be more caring etc. Women who cheat and have herpes probably have some issues tbh. Why do you make to mv…
/r/ExRedPill25/06/22 07:03 AM
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How did you sabotage them? I notice it as well where people try to have redpill mentality in relationships and essentially destroy them.
/r/ExRedPill25/06/22 12:39 AM
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And my point is, is that always a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:18 PM
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I can’t have a physical relationship with a man without feeling special. He won’t get me turned on. He prefers 5’0 brunettes with A cups? I don’t get aroused. I would feel used me disgusted by myself. If you know a man has a scarcity mindset and would just be with anyone the risk is high that if he could pick and chose, it wouldn’t be you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:02 PM
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Women also need to feel attractive in order to be aroused. That’s more important than the mans look. Knowing that a man is just ok with your appereance? Sahara desert, lack of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:57 PM
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It’s not an argument in favour of men that women risk being settled for in terms of looks. If I get to know that a man dates me despite having different preferences and prefering other women visually, then that was the last date.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:56 PM
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Not per se. But the person with the lower one might thus have it less fulfilling because of less ”power”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:17 PM
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But a fulfilling relationship is not about whether you are deemed a good product on the market. Job is not comparable, it’s very different relationship people have to their employer vs towards a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:16 PM
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From a womans perspective and I’m not talking about high vs low. Surely it’s better than to have a low one. But say medium one slightly leaning towards higher vs high. But even a lot of people who have low ones seem to have actually better relationships with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:15 PM
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But fulfilling is also based on both people feeling it is fullfilling?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:14 PM
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Sure, but for women or tbh most getting in relationships is not the question but which ones. I’m not compring with low but maybe say 60th percentile vs 90th.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:13 PM
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Lol, gay men seem to be the best indicator then
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:13 PM
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I guess high SMV extends beyond simply finding someone attractive. Most people fulfill the partner criteria for each other. There are always some choices I guess, it’s just that whether all choices is better than a decent anount but not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:13 PM
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Right, but SMV for a womans perspective and it’s generally being interested in long term commitment. Success in short term dating becomes irrelevant and a large amount of options might lead people to focus on the wrong things, i.e. because they have that freedom they aren’t forced to look at what actually matters. I don’t think people when they end relationships think in matters of quality or points on a set of traits, but rather in terms of ”bond”, ”will we understand each other”. Likely is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:11 PM
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Don’t most women at least have options? Yet, slightly lower options might be better because it forces people to chose on parametres which might actually matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:07 PM
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Absolutely, but can’t it risk being two superficial people anyway and a lower relationship quality?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:04 PM
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I’m not talking about unattractive vs attractive but maybe attractive vs medium attractive. If you are attractive in a looks based society, it means the person is chosen because of looks or at least gets an advantage because of looks, and not because they are liked as a person - or if they are it’s the question of whether they would be chosen even when the looks aren’t there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:02 PM
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Walt, in which way does this argue against it? It’s not neccesarily in terms of options or so, but that it might end up with a partner who technically is both attractive and good personality superficially, and choses someone based on looks, which damages the ability to build bonds in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:01 PM
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Sure, but What I mean is that despite good personality the risk is the person is choosing a person with high SMV for their looks, not their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 10:58 PM
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But that’s not how shallow people are, regardless of what TRP says.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 10:56 PM
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So for both men and women it comes from a fear in regards to either ”paternity” or ”paternal investment”. Male and female interests and fears clash here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:25 PM
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As I mentioned in my previous thread, I do see it from a man’s eyes too. That’s why I wouldn’t behave like this. What men fail to understand is how important it also is for a woman to know that a man is not looking for her only for her looks or to pump and dump. If she likes someone, she wants to avoid that. It’s about checking how interested Dylan is in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:48 PM
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No we don’t have those people here. It’s seen as trashy though even for those people to do it. Banging. Lol. I’m talking about marrying and starting a family. It’s seen as embarassing because it makes people think of it as a sugardaddy vs sugarbaby relationship, the woman is there because of his wealth, he seems like a coombrain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:44 PM
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I think that TRP contains some small elements of truth, but truthfully women tend to be more attracted by personality relative to men, yet are sometimes pickier. A lot of the things in regards to how a man looks is not about him as an object of desire, but how he makes her feel. Women like tall men because they feel dainty, women like muscular men because it makes them feel safe. A lot of these things are not directly tied to looks and can be achieved in other ways too. Looks are simply a proxy …
/r/ExRedPill22/06/22 11:00 PM
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You seem to use quite emotional language so it does seem that you are upset on a personal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 07:04 PM
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I didn’t say it was good. I was explaining her way of thinking. You seem to be personally offended by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:36 PM
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Sweden; and that’s a country with almost a lack of marriage culture and not a very negative view of women sleeping around. Obviously it varies from woman to woman, but for me, if I only desire sex within a long term commited relationship, why on earth would I sleep around just because a guy is good looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:19 PM
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Lol, ok. What do they say? Birds of a feather flock together.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:16 PM
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I don’t defend that, if you could read. I’m talking SOLELY about why women make some men wait and others not. And it’s not about attractiveness. Well, the ”give impression” part I agree on, she should be honest. But truthfully, men deceive quite often…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:15 PM
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I think this woman acts immoral. I don’t really understand your language though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:54 PM
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No, it measured specific types of behaviour but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:53 PM
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No, it shows they act better to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:29 PM
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I meant commitment from any man they want :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:26 PM
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The AFBB is according to a study not something women on average practice but secure it from the same person. Cut off age? Idk. I have the impression that a lot of men at say 40 would date 35 over 24 (my age). It’s looked down upon dating clearly younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:21 PM
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I mean in terms of attractiveness, sure. But in practice me as a 24 year old woman can’t date 40 year old men who more likely go for women at 35. Dating older men is 100% a sugarbaby-sugardaddy relationship… most people don’t date according to some looks formula.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:17 PM
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I read a study that women in their 30s see an increase in libido and an increase in the amount of men they are attracted to and the degree to which they are attracted to them. So biology has taken care of it that it won’t feel like settling?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:04 PM
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No it’s the mindset ”I’d rather be alone than settle”. I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:03 PM
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Nope. As I mentioned, sometimes the women is the one not wanting a relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:51 PM
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No … and sadly I don’t find most men where I live attractive. That’s probably largely based on where I live however, and ethnicity, in other places I find more men attractive. Sharp and somewhat disagreeable facial features and fit or lean. Not model features/pretty boy. Like, in Sweden meh. In eastern Germany and further south of that, more of men are attractive. That however is not enough and he needs to have a nice personality, and show a lot of interest and commitment. Without that a ”hot” g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:43 PM
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All women can get sex easily, attractive women can get commitment easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:32 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:30 PM
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This is not true. Many women don’t want sex without commitment at all. No matter how Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:29 PM
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Yes, this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:07 PM
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We don’t know that. I know situation where the Guy wanted a relationship but the woman only fwb etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:07 PM
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I know men don’t think like this, I do not participate in hookup culture so this hasn’t been any issue for me. However, this is how I would on a baseline level think or feel, yet wouldn’t act like this precisely because I know men would perceive it differently. Sex and how soon and consistency is important for men. For women it’s nice and all, but extremely ”low price”. So women don’t get how much it means to men. So this is just how many women think… Sex creates bonding and increases it, it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:58 PM
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Studies show more masculine men are nicer to women :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:31 AM
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Lol its the capital
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:22 AM
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No, it’s a result of seeing how they react to rejection. Well, ”nice guys” aren’t the typical Guy, it’s men who need to claim that label as opposed to someone else:
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:22 AM
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No lol, not saying halo effect doesn’t exist, but ”nice guys” are just on average less nice and less respectful of women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:17 PM
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I live in a 1 million people city in Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:16 PM
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It was sarcastic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:41 PM
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What do you mean in where they live?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:40 PM
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Stop projecting male desires onto women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:40 PM
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Yeah those handsome men usually have the nicer personalities, less obsessed with sleeping around too. It’s the average or slightly above who seem to be obsessed with it. ”Nice guys” here who fear being betas are the worst in terms of those traits hah. Avoid ”nice guys”. They have the worst personalities and are more prone to use women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:54 PM
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Most women would require a relationship and would not just sleep with Chad. There are multiple attractive men, pretty much all, willing to sleep with women. Would be stupid even for those few women that are into casual sex to just sleep around with a guy just because he happens to look good. Only happens for really promiscious women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:52 PM
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This is what most incels don’t get. Some women might, but most would not be sidekicks to any ”Chad”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:22 PM
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Yeah. But bottom right pretty to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:17 PM
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The most handsome men I know don’t have the highest amount of partners. It’s the slightly above average ”polyamorous feminist” guys. Genuinely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:11 PM
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I mean sweet talk is a thing for a reason. I think as long as it feels sincere and not desperate it is effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:15 AM
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Wait, that what would work?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:30 PM
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This is also so absurd because studies show that men are eversoslightly more polygamous than women, but we as a species are mostly monogamous. Or things where they think that truly partner and love is like shopping. Lastly, this is not even indicative of the so called cave man life.
/r/ExRedPill19/06/22 05:00 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/j2sm61/hookup_culture_and_promiscuity_is_overexaggerated/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:07 PM
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No I have more to do, it is from this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:06 PM
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What is wrong with you? Why are you so rude? Well I saw you are american so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:06 PM
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No, it’s not shaming. It just reflects a male idea or is formulated as if it’s defined without anecdotes. But actually I’m changing my mind because men that are virgins tend to be more humble and open minded/responsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:16 AM
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Why is it always better looking or higher status? For women attaining status or looks is more of a given, so it’s usually rather about for example emotional connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:14 AM
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Men arent polygamous per nature, just somewhat moreso than women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:57 AM
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No To old Has children Star signs and spiritual (religious is a plus, spiritual a minus) Seems like he should have no problem with the ladies in his age range. He looks good for his age for sure and seems like good husband material MINUS already having kids. 44 is kind of old for a man to reproduce too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:26 AM
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No, I think it’s a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:17 AM
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The thing is that the very ”intense” or ”rough” is often an expression of high desire. Not neccesarily degrading per se but passionate! Tender or more romantic sex you seem to equate to uninspired, but those can coincide. Men would also assume that dominant means something else than it does for a woman, which is that the man takes the lead. Not ”rough” so to speak. A man incapable of caressing and taking care of a woman will probably not make her feel safe, for many women a prerequisite for more…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:04 AM
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Oh and men can pick up some of the most ugly unpopular women and she will have sex with him. It’s more about that even in a context where two people love each other and it’s not some hypothethical sugarbaby sort of relationship which it becomes if it is like you describes, the woman will be expected to be physical earlier than the man fully commita and conceots like marriage doesn’t really exist anymore, at least not in all cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:18 PM
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Especially since I see relationships as not just something temporary where you like each other, I would date only for marriage. In today’s society you are also expected to become physical somewhat early, definitely before you know if someone will marry you or not 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:14 PM
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Yeah, female sex drive or libido is extremely strongly tied to feeling desired. Men that give the impression that they would just do it with anyone will invite the Sahara desert to my body. When I get the impression a man sees one as one among many, a potential conquest or what not, I just feel repulsed and repelled. It's a very fast way to not get sex from a woman. And it's not about that women would want men that don't show interest in her, the opposite, but it should feel like the interest is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:39 AM
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Do women really have an advantage? Why is this all about sex, when women more want long term relationships and commitment. Many women think the dating market is in favour of the male collective, precisely because we have moved away from the concept of marriage. Attaining commitment is already one thing, but commitment like what was considered the baseline say 80 years ago? It doesn't exist. It is easier for men to attain sex than it is for women to attain commitment. How many relationships genui…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:34 AM
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Lemme find it but it was referenced on this sub. It also showed that people judge men slightly more for promiscuousity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:30 AM
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He doesn’t have to be a huge risk taker or fully smooth. The odds? I think sex comes natural to most humans, so fairly good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:29 AM
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Sure, but that doesn’t mean that it’s the experience itself that is a good thing or that a high number of partners would be good. Honestly some people with low numbers are perceived as more potentiellt promiscious if they got the chance etc. Probably what if you need to lie would work is to say a low number and say that it’s in relationship, you rejected casual sex, you think sex should be meaningful. That’s what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:06 PM
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I’m a woman myself. I see humans are quite ”irrational” or rather sometimes very driven by not fully conscious mechanisms. This just happens to be a more female irrationality. Now, women have been more reliant on the collective so it makes sense, but still. I don’t neccesarily see men as better, they just have other issues. Such as coomer brains easily manipulated through beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:04 PM
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No, a study showed the majority of women want men that are chaste, then comes ”the reformed man”, lastly comes promiscious. Men similarly but less wanting ”the reformed woman”. The reason women might want that is because they see it as someone is only as chaste as their options and having previous number of partner is a proof that they WANT to be chaste rather than are so because of lack of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:48 PM
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But high value only as an alpha, money is beta. This was in PPD by someone who was RP.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 10:46 PM
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Yes or inexperienced men who are confident or take lead = good My ”prejudice”: Many men with experience will not be very attentive, they think they know everything and use some sort of manuscript. Whereas men without or with less (but with some confidence) might still focus on making it nice for her and will thus be better in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:44 PM
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But it’s not because of the experience in itself but the potential reasons for it!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:35 PM
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No, women want the potential skill of it, but a man having ”experience” is a turn off for me. Men at a certain age having inexperience in the sense of for example a 30 year old virgin, is not a red flag because of the lack of inexperience, but the reasons behind it. Ideally the man has low experience but good skill. A lot of good skill is being responsive and attentive, in my head men with many partners (they have most likely had less sex than someone with one partner but in a long relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:07 PM
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You sound like an emotionally mature normal guy.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 07:48 PM
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Isn’t this the issue? There are things to be taken from TRP but so much of it is false and extreme.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 07:47 PM
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I think he just uses it as a figure of speach
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 07:46 PM
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Do they really see money and status as a goal? They think being in a relationship means being a pussy because the woman would only have wanted him because of commitment. Literally saw someone say sex in relationship doesn’t count as ”real sex”. I thought they would want to be poor, woman providing for them, but so handsome that the woman apparently throws herself over him without nothing in return.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 07:39 PM
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Yeah I never understood this. They want to do nothing and think relationships is being beta cucked because a Victoria Secret model didn’t throw themselves at their dick immediately, but idealise contexts where the men are expected to be made out of gold.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 07:34 PM
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In islam the money a man makes goes to the both of them but the money a woman does only to the woman, so it’s very strongly focusing on the ”beta” aspects of being a man - which I thought TRP hated???? In many of those traditional cultures a man being a providor is seen as highly masculine and a woman wanting to pay would be seen as humiliating for them. So…
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 07:32 PM
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They are very picky about the man being a good provider, or as the redpill would call it, a good beta.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 07:29 PM
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Yeah, western women and I notice this a lot, take care of themselves in a different manner. More focused on health and ”natural beauty”. This is even more the case in Germany than in Sweden where women do wear more makeup and nice clothes, yet it seems mostly based on a basic level of beautifying, more understated, rather than clearly making yourself pretty for everyone to see. In a way eastern european women tend to be more competitive, including with their looks, and that I see as a masculine …
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 07:27 PM
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No, what… First of all, James Marsden is more looks wise a ”Chad” than Ryan Gosling, who is more ”pretty”. They wanted someone ”not handsome” to play Noah, well Ryan Gosling was a heartthrob but very much looking like a ”normal guy”, more agreeable and husbandlike compared to the more masculine James Marsden. Second, I don’t understand how this RP narrative completely disregards love. Allie and Noah were in love but were separated. She had feelings for Lon but her old feelings never went away. T…
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 07:17 PM
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Agree in a way but honestly it’s not that simple, while women might have the option of multiple men, those men that might like her the most might be the same as the one’s she choses.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:12 PM
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Yeah just because someone passes the looks threshold doesn’t mean I would date them. If someone is famous, vain, I think I would be less attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:30 PM
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No, studies show women ”want it all”. A small subset of women gave up on the whole package and practice dual mating strategy. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232545568_Attractive_Women_Want_it_All_Good_Genes_Economic_Investment_Parenting_Proclivities_and_Emotional_Commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:29 PM
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Yeah, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:12 PM
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Interesting, relationships that aren’t hypergamous make the woman more happy because the man fights more to keep her and does more things for her. In a hypergamous relationship men are more likely to get what they want. Men are just as hypergamous with commitment though so idk. Especially with looks, if you look at the OkCupid statistics. What do you mean intrinsic value? Looks? Even looks the so called Chad is liked because his physique and looks indicates he can generate resources (strong phys…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:11 PM
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Oh well from less attractive or mentally unstable women or on Tinder where people are looking for casual sex I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:10 PM
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Yet men have also selected against that in a way, the selection of ectomorphy or delicacy in women is some sort of sexual selection but not natural selection. (Maybe smaller women were seen as weaker and easier to dominate). Biology is more complex and social factors matter too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:45 AM
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I thought about this a lot. I guess women can be shit at dating too becaus you learn how to attract your type but your type is not neccesarily who is good for you and what will give you what you need in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:43 AM
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Yeah this is some weird assumption that all women are part of hookup culture and that is where sex is had.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:42 AM
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Agree… Most women don’t participate in hookup culture. That’s the problem of this assumption. Especially not the hookup culture à la men (searching out people just for sex, a lot of women sleep around in hopes of a relationship or because they were ”emotionally seen”, so not in the context of putsning). There was some statistic here on how some of these assumptions are wrong. I think it was about amount of partners, casual dating, how people judge and chose in regards to promisciousity. Regardle…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:41 AM
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I think men see it like this. Me as a woman see it as ”not attractive” ”medium attractive” ”attractive”. Sometimes in theory handsome men don’t cut it for me. If I see a man as definitely attractive I don’t go arpund and think ”oh he is an eight but that other guy a 9 or 10”. It’s more a threshold/pass/fail sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:32 AM
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No they can’t and it’s not attractive or mentally stable women. Most men can’t get casual sex, but that doesn’t mean that most sex goes to those few men that can a bit more than others. Even ”Chad” struggles. Most people will have sex within relationships and that’s where most the sex happens, not to the guy with the 30 bc… but then again TRP is all about men maximimising their casual sex through manipulation. Relationships is seen as weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:23 AM
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Oh but not true, women tend to be attracted to these people despite their ”misogynistic” traits, but because they show confidence, assertiveness, strenght. But women do like attractive, confident, assertive but empathethic and nice men. Men that have the best ability to have women is those that give off ”alpha bucks” vibes. Chivalry if you so will.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:01 PM
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I mean yes that is loyalty to women because it was crucial for female survival and the survival of the child. For men loyalty might be related to ”exclusivity” physically, but that’s not… well generally it has been so that men need to ensure paternity, and women need to ensure commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:35 PM
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Sure, I guess that’s not per se submission lol. It’s giving someone else the last word, putting the trust and respect in them. Why? Because of talking? Some introverts can be very social and like doing stuff. Here is the thing you might just set yourself up for failure because you attract people that are interested in STR. YET You seem to have very high standards for LTR. I’m not one to talk though. This is precisely why I say it lol, it Will be high risk of failure. What predicts a relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 10:06 PM
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Well, you are stuck. You essentially in practice only want pepple that are in it for STR. You need to make a choice. Plus pushover and submissive… Submission is a sign of a woman respecting you, and I don’t see why you neccesarily need to respect your potential girlfriend or woman. If we take it to an extreme women don’t care that much about respect, more about love and acceptance. Women interested in hypermasculine men tend to have that mental ”hierarchy” in their brain. They see you above them…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 10:17 AM
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Yeah well, I guess Chadcel doesn’t have to mean literal celibate but more the tendency to not attract less LTR, more STR but even then be rejected at times for being to masculine. Or just having issues because of it. Many men here claim that men need to learn to be stronger, more dominering, so she doesnt loose respect but this subset will have women reject them or leave or so because the guy isn’t soft enough or to masculine. And that means you attract women that are only into STR. Ah modern so…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:37 PM
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That’s normal and human, I think often very masculine men tend to have very sensitive hearts. If anything that’s a masculine virtue to me. It’s just in modern society where all that is left of masculinity and femininity is the toxic part, the ”shadow side” if you so will.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:09 PM
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Don’t agree. Women would cheat with beta on the alpha Because the alpha is not ”emotionally responsive”. Mostly, this is the most common scenario. Ergo ”why women cheat with their therapists and men marry their secretary”. It’s not even about sex. Women respect some men so much that they fear them and don’t feel safe and want to withdraw. Part of liking the masculine Guy is not lust but because she sees him as the ”good guy” who is just misunderstood and destructive in pain and she needs to ”sav…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:18 PM
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Get laid yeah, and I’m not talking about MMA fighters automatically just that many of these guys tend to be into MMA… but well it’s easier nowadays and women are encouraged to be promiscious. Chadcel might get STR but gets more STR than LTR, and might struggle with LTR, at least really long ones, finding a ”good wife”. So it’s more like that. In my experience a lot of these guys regret promisciousity, they tend to eventually want to find ”love”, and reject STR and have stayed celibate. Kind of l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:40 PM
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Masculine to a certain degree. https://imgur.com/a/0RO5PFn Alpha with a touch of beta fucks and bucks. Gigachad and incel are seen as rapists (gigachad by force incel by manipulation). Gigachad rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:19 PM
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Yes, nerdy, affectionate, emotional. Or just chivalrous. But one thing, be sincere. Women tend to fall head over heels for ”masculine men with a soft heart” and I sadly know men who take advantage of that. MMA (or martial arts in general) is to me a key sign that someone is a Chad-cel hahaha, seems to be very very overrepresented among them. And interests in history too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 12:30 PM
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I remembered it from a lecture so I googled it. A study. As you can see women also see effeminate men as equally threathening as the somewhat more masculine than average man. But yeah, this is the Chadcel phenomenon. My uncle hasn’t found a woman willing to have a family with him despite being handsome, having a good job and a nice behaviour (at least now, he had problems with aggression as a child but after doing martial arts and going a lot to the gym he has calmed down and is often very very …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:00 PM
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Yeah well I know multiple guys that have been rejected for that: Proof in case https://imgur.com/a/0RO5PFn To much to the left and women don’t want LTR and sometimes not even STR
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 11:33 AM
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This was from a class in university in a course in evolutionary psychology. The men women prefer for both LTR and STR are more masculine than the average man, but not that much (closer to the average man than the hypermasculine). And the men women see as short term material and long term material tend to be very similar. Now, for the hypermasculine there is a theorethical high sexiness, but there is something that tells women instinctively to avoid them, and they are scared of them. These men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 05:16 PM
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Well, I’m talking in general terms. Not a high quality woman searching a high quality man. It seems to help for you obviously because you are talking negatively about women who want to wait because you see it as a bargaining tool regardless apprently. Waiting to have sex? Bargaining. Having sex early? Bargaining. ”Why would a guy put up with a woman when he can find someone else?” - well, you are contradicting your first statement though. You clearly would stay more if a woman had sex early to i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:27 AM
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You can have sex in a LTR? I really pity those people that think you don’t. It’s more likely a wife is up to whatever the husband wants than a random person at the street, that she is more eager etc: and yeah you are a Chadcel lmao. It’s exactly my point above, women will reject very masculine men that are interested in LTR because they aren’t beta enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:51 PM
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We are subconscioisly all doing that to a degree
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:18 PM
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I mean, in Sweden parents didn't decide, but people would get their "equal" so to speak. This guy might have married her if it was back in time. My maternal grandparents married young, because it was scandalous if people lived together without being married.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 03:02 PM
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We call them in sweden runkgubbe - "wank oldsters"... men that comment thirsty emojis after women's photos, men that promote sexually promiscious behaviour and condemn women that are against it and say that women aren't sex positive, or say that aaaaaaaall women want to have casual sex. It means old neckbeard coomers essentially, men that can't get the women they want by themselves so they cheer on or want to manipulate women into having casual sex in hopes of getting some themselves. English pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:28 PM
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I mean, I would agree on that everything which doesn't fall into the christian concept of marriage is hookup culture. But that's not what TRP seems to mean. But meh, I also know women where it was fair, but women actually had weird demands. My sister has sort of participated in hookup culture, she ended her first relationship because her boyfriend wanted to live at home (he had a separate cottage) as long as possible during college to save money. She should have been together with a ten year old…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:19 PM
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No here is the thing, if a woman wants the man to wait, it's because she has options. Some women use it on *every* man. That women as a collective don't make you wait is one thing. But would the pageant winning woman with no previous partners and a very appealing personality make you wait? More likely than the average but attractve woman. Women would not use it as a last resort if low value, as sexual interest for a woman towards the man is more likely to actually make men commit. Low value wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:56 PM
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hahaha WHAT
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:00 PM
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Women always have easy sex with those men? Women who withold sex from you do so because loosing the opportunity to date you is not a big loss to them. They know they can get other people/better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:46 AM
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Huh? That’s not accurately a description.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:29 AM
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Ah, you think the world is populated by 10/10 and 1/10 men and 5/10 women. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:02 AM
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Yeah so hotties can get Chad to commit. Someone who doesn’t will go for Brad before she does AFBB or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:52 AM
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Why would they get pumped and dumped, it would mean that they are clearly lower in market value than Chad. Men tend to have low standards in looks for STR and higher in LTR. Being hot is not hard for women as men seemingly want to fuck everything that moves and are attracted to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:49 AM
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They shouldn’t. But they aren’t representative of most women. Yeah that’s why women don’t automatically jump to BB…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:49 AM
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Women never said we don’t care about looks. Also. No, women usually go for beta as the very last resort, most women have more options than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:46 AM
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Why would she do AFBB when she can do Alpha bucks or Brad bucks? Because women care a bit about Attractiveness too! Not as much as men, but We do. Why are men butthurt about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:41 AM
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No wait they do that compared to how they treat men, they might be super rude to men and much much more agreeable towards women but might still be to autistic to actually be ”attentive”. I share this experience however. Hypermasculine I mean as in looking like dark triad traits, let m Women with options will demand more, rhey will not have easy sex. Even with attractive men. Idk, that’s instinctive, she holds it away because she can afford it. It’s because she has the option to do so. Culture ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:37 AM
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The hotties give it up to Chad quickly becauwe Chad commit quickly to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:32 AM
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No? I would only have a husband I find attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:31 AM
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Yeah that’s offensive lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:16 AM
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Well then accept that McDonalds makes you gain weight and that someone else has touched it with filty fingers and there is their hair in it. That means that yes, they might have had sex for a lower price with someone else than you. They might have sex very quickly with ”Chad” but not with you. Women who are desireable have options. They don’t do this. Having options is associated with chastity. If you think all women are McDonalds then that’s indicative of the quality of women you can attract, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:38 AM
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I guess some men are more into high testosterone in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:36 AM
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Why wouldn’t I be able to have that with a husband? You make no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:35 AM
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Tinder is not used by most women, it is infamous for being used by men who want nothing but sex. Most women don’t have to use Tinder, men approach them in real life. They don’t need Tinder. And don’t have to pay what? Well, unsttraxtive men need to lie and manipulate women though, you are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:34 AM
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Most women don’t have to because they can be in a relationship with higher quality guys. Only ugly women need to be with ugly men. However, more masculine men court women more and are more agreeable towards women. Alpha is the one that bucks more. Beta is bitter and hates women because they won’t fuck him so he wants to have sex with as many women as possible. This is in part why guys tend to want this when they are younger, but want more relationship as they mature and options increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:32 AM
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It would be more fun and more pleasureable for a woman to have sex with an attractive husband. Why would a commited relationship mean not having sex? Well, why should women just have sex with anyone? I don’t get this. Most women have options enough to not participate in AFBB, it’s usually crap attracting crap, and if a man is crap he is usually ”treated worse”. That is to be expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:29 AM
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Oh I’m not talking about decently masculine or aggressive men, I’m talking about hypermasculine men in comparison to less attractive, but more beta guys. And yes a study shows than those men women want for STR and LTR (not so much difference between those two) are more masculine than the average man, but not hypermasculine. With aggression I guess, short temper, not being emotionally responsive (not because they don’t want to, but because they don’t understand and can’t read emotions properly). …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:21 AM
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But my example was how women will go for moderately alpha but high beta over high alpha and moderately beta. Who they might go for when the first fails. Ideally yes, women want the alpha bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:01 AM
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Women that are less testosteronised might instead be more submissive tbh. If men want sexually aggressive women they should go for Mrs Robinson relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:58 AM
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It assumes all of those things are equal. Even women that have given up so much that they have casual sex will not just give out sex freely.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:57 AM
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But he said he wants the women that "ride the CC", he doesn't want chaste women, he wants women who are promiscious lower their price on sex even further (not make him wait more than anyone else).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:47 AM
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I didn't answer with "you are fucking stupid what drugs are you on ahaha", this is how men argue with women. Women try to come with points and arguments and are willing to see things from multiple perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:46 AM
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Then be desireable to women when you are sub 30 as well, or "buck" a lot because some women are willing to date old men if they shower her with money and gifts, i.e. sugarbabies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:15 AM
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But how ugly and bad personality or mental issues must a woman have to have to end up with a guy with sub moderate attractiveness? And yeah they get a somewhat whole package, I guess that's my point. Women want the whole package, the alpha bucks but will prioritise bucks traits first, if they have to chose. They will start with, or are willing to go for "moderately attractive" over "superhot" (what TRP calls "the tingles"). They prioritise beta traits first. My point is that when women fail at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:08 AM
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Why lmfao? I don't have some degrading fetish, why be a booty call - they need to make me their wife for doing what a booty call implies :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:00 AM
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Sexually aggressive women have higher testosterone, less likely to be loyal, will usually have sex with multiple guys and tend to be less attractive I guess because it is associated with male traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:51 AM
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"I’m not waiting for sex other guys got on date one." But then don't go for promiscous women if you don't want that? Plus. You want women to show chastity in the sense that they make others wait more, and you wait less. There are women who don't have sex with Chad at all, but would have so with you. You don't want that because you don't think chaste women can be pleasureable enough. Women with options don't participate in the CC. They don't have to. "I’m not waiting for sex other guys got on dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:50 AM
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Lying what? You mean they lie about not being promiscious? Well, it seems like you like promiscious women so. Plus. What do you mean? You want the women who ride the CC, you said so yourself. You want to be with women who are promiscious. You want women who do more for other men than they did for you. It's like buying Mc Donalds and complaining about gaining weight. Maybe you should have bought a fresh sallad from a nice resturant instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:37 AM
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The fact that you complain about women doing afbb indicates you can't secure attractive and loyal/chaste women, and only have those women to pick from who have high BCs. Yet you literally want to defy time lol. You say commiting to young women, but commiting includes when she ages to. Not even top tier men do that. *beggars can't be chosers*. Well, men don't get attractive with age either, although their money does I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:33 AM
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I never had any booty call experience either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:31 AM
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Beggars can't be chosers lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:30 AM
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Well that's your view but... don't complain about whatever you associate with the so called CC then, that's what you want. And you make assumptions about the sexuality of women with low-moderate BC. You want promiscious women that sleep around with attractive men, so stop saying "that's what they tell you when they make you wait".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:30 AM
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Ok, nice to be rude :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 05:01 AM
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Agree, it’s models, kind of made wrongly imo as well
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:39 AM
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Wait you only attract women with high BC? Might be indicative of your own desireability. Often, women are the one’s in the relationship with the lower BC or fairly equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:22 AM
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I would not be fine with just an exclusive relationship, but I guess my standard is ”wants marriage” rather than ”actually on the wedding night”. I also would not marry just anyone. I think this is what TRP don’t get. Women guard ourselves, and would often rather be single. We sometimes even would rather be single and in celibate if we can’t find the Disney Prince/medieval knight/unicorn. I would not have casual relationships with any Chad (he needs to want to marry me and be husband material), …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:20 AM
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Wait what do you mean? Also, women want to be in relationships with attractive men. Not so much difference who they consider ideal for STR vs LTR. Neither is the hypermasculine, both are more masculine than the average though. Gaslighting, you are gaslighting yourself by the fact that I think you look very handsome on your picture yet you have BDD.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:10 AM
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So you don’t want your wife after 30? You seem bitter indicating lower success with women yet you want a wife that never ages, that’s not only a to high standards in a beggars can’t be chosers way, but a literal impossible standard. I guess in the US though women go out in the sun despite latitude not being right for them, and are on average fat. So.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:10 AM
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Birds of a feather flock together. They are low quality men so they only meet low quality women (well low quality from their perspective, men do in general value sexual chastity and attractiveness for themselves). I find that assumption as well downright offensive. I would only sleep with a guy if he wants to marry me, ideally I would wait until after marriage or make sure it’s just not an entj wish. I only even date to marry so. I’m also lazy and hate the idea of me ”picking up”/”chasing” or ”s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 03:59 AM
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You don’t make any sense. Avoid what and justify what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 03:54 AM
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They do. Or depends. These guys often want a relationship because women mostly want them for STR, they have an abundance of it so they start thinking like women, because like women their SMV>RMV. Men that have a hard time getting STR want it more, when it becomes abundant they want it less. I knew guys who wanted that when they were young (as in sub 20, teenagers) but reject the opportunity when it presents itself, and even reject many women for not meeting their criteria. The guys who sleep aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 03:52 AM
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No, women want fairly masculine men, more masculine than the average but not hypermasculine for both LTR and STR. (Fairly similar what women want in STR and LTR), STR is placed between hypermasculine and average guy, LTR is very close to what they want in STR but a bit closer to the average guy. I can send the photo. That’s ideally though, in practice it doesn’t work like that and I mean that women often in practice only use the bucks strategy. Few women are willing to sleep around or participat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 03:34 AM
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Some women. Sure. Not most. When women are young they have higher testosterone, a hormone which makes women somewhat more ”male minded” than the female baseline. Female testosterone drops at 30 or so. The higher the testosterone, the more likely she will be promiscious. Women with lower testosterone (who are more ”typical women”) are more likely to want commitment and be more loyal as well. When women are on birth control pills, simulating pregancy women go even more for commitment. Those women …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 03:16 AM
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Huh? Women don’t want STR ideally and strive for commutment in a man, why would she be a booty call? Justifying what? Avoiding being booty call?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 03:07 AM
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I didn’t mean hoe phase in the extreme for neccesarily but just accepting ”less” commitment such as being in a relationship with the masculine man without demanding him to be super emotionally responsive or calm or being able to see things from her persoective. She is in a commited LTR relationship with him, so it’s not neccesarily a hoe phase but yes, it ties in to accepting not getting as much ”commit and provide” and commitment here means devotion not nevcesarily only being exklusive which so…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:50 AM
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Not really, those women would be able to make more men commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:22 AM
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That might be true for women who are more "masculine minded", who tend to opt to sleep around more. But that's not the typical female thing, as it is associated with higher testosterone in both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:05 AM
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No, women don't all participate in hookup culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:04 AM
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Ok, ignore evolutionary psychology. Women's brain work the same way as in the stone age. Do you think women participated in a cock carousel then as well? No because it meant pregnancy and pregnancy meant needing a man for survival. I have a friend who is pregnant at 25 with a person she got together with 2014.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:03 AM
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No, most or a lot of women avoid being bootycalls or don't participate in hookup culture...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:43 AM
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Ok, maybe you could argue instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:25 PM
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Maybe come with arguments instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:25 PM
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What a good argument :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:24 PM
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"Girls want a bad boy who is good only for her, boys want a good girl who is bad only for him". That's exactly what women want yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:30 PM
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Are they not? I refuse men that have many partners (I am also counting "girlfriend count", to high is a red flag). I refuse men who show interest in casual sex.
/r/RedPillWomen28/05/22 06:53 PM
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Honestly I think this is a bit extreme or polarising and portrays men as never interested in relationships and women as asexual.
/r/RedPillWomen28/05/22 06:52 PM
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The men that can sell the female fantasy to women are the most successful, in all regards. In my experience there are desperate guys who either simp for every woman or they are literal disgusting human’s to them. Then there are men who are usually not super attractive but not ugly either. They will pretend to be cool and aim to p&d, but have to go for women that are drunk, emotionally unstable, less attractive, they manipulate. Then you have the high value men who can pick and chose and have gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:55 PM
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A study referenced on r/exredpill shows that more desireable men tend to ”buck” more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:43 PM
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Studies show men overestimate female interest
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 01:59 PM
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Oh I thought that defined a Chad? But the guys with the most options I guess is the Sigma, whereas Chad still is ”chasing”and is the one behaving like that. The most attractive and desireable men seem to be more picky and more into actual relationships. They often could have had a higher n-count, but chose to not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:40 AM
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I think that might be how they feel tbh, whereas for women respect and love is tied to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:38 AM
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Promiscious guys are not neccesarily the guys with the most options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:30 AM
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I was thinking all things other equal, yeah personality and Juggernauts law and the ”pretty but unstable”-trope definitely factor in. I meant that men are more likely to have women as ”placeholders” than woman are for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 01:06 AM
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As mentioned below, men and women don’t vary THAT much in terms of monogamy and polygamy. It’s not due to a ”social construct” that many men ultimately do commit at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 01:00 AM
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Literally what I said though. Spread seed on anyone, but invest in the most worthwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 11:31 PM
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Then why do men go for potentially uglier women in relationships compared to what they can get and chose in marriage? Agree. And agree on this too, this is why the alpha vs. provider is a bit of a fallacy. Historically speaking the strong and masculine man was a better providor than a twink. I don’t know relationships where women don’t want children and men pay. Not in the West. Maybe in arab, eastern european or south asian cultures. What do you mean about tradeoff from said career path?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:57 PM
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Not really, because it increases survival compared to leaving a woman alone with the offspring so there is some motivation to do so for ”valuable” offspring. Men and women differ somewhat, but not so extremely much in monogamy/polygamy. So no. That’s not neccesarily naturally the way for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:53 PM
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Good luck raising children without consoling 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:50 PM
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Male mating strategy is to spread the seed, however they would only spend resources when it’s ”worth it”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:23 PM
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Why does it need to change? Women have lower stress tolerance or higher stress sensitivity. This means women have it harder in the corporate work market, but can be more viligant and notice when something has to be done in the home. Men tend to need some stress and competition to thrive and get bored in the household plus are worse and noticing when something needs to be done. The issue isn’t women doing more housework, the issue is women having to work as much as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:32 PM
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Difference is, men can date below themselves because they see women as a placeholder, temporary, one of many. Women need to find ~the~ man, and prefer to be single else. When they actually commit ie marry men don’t date down at all. I’m not sure where this idea of providing in modern western society comes from. Sure, where I am it’s a bit more extreme but women are expected to pay 50-50. Being a provider is not ”woman earns 2500€ and man earns 3500€”. Plus many men want to earn more. Nor is it ”…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:26 PM
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Where do you live? Earn more isn’t being a provider. Pay for dates isn’t being a provider. However, this doesn’t even apply in much of the western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:20 PM
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Oh hear, the expert has arrived. But you can absolutely get by without women if women are so terrible and useless 😂 You think you can use logic and reason on a child who doesn’t understand it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:19 PM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:22 AM
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They are not expected to uphold the gender roles of having to be a provider. Not today. People tend to date other people with their own ”point” so to speak. I guess men overestimate their attractiveness if they see a hotter girl and think ”omg I am entitled to her why does she not date nice me and only Chad”?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:18 AM
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How would a woman even know that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:17 AM
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Stretch marks. You know women get those in puberty too? Most women have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:14 AM
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Well I guess evolution must have solved it so that men are the primary caregivers then? Oh wait! Nah there are more accidents for example when men take care of children. They are much worse at comforting etc. But you are free to raise children without women lol, men are available too you know!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:13 AM
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In today’s society women also are out making money, maybe not on oil rigs though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:11 AM
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That might be because men have to high standards as well - such as finding a certain type of women but not at all commiting properly… then they complain about not finding the virgin tradwife, while they don’t belive in marriage and LARP as a teenage casanova. In some countries marriage is outlawed almost as an institutition, women work at least fifty percent. Seventy years ago a woman would be provided for. If a woman needs to sell herself out for men in order for them to commit and refuses to, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:10 AM
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I think the world alpha and beta are used to imply status.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:31 AM
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They want as much offspring as possible though 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:30 AM
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The women doing AFBB are unsuccessful women whose behaviour is a cope for not being able to at the best find both in one, at the second best (and this is already a failure in a way) make the ”alpha” marry and provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:27 AM
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No, at 30 they might experience a short rise but it goes down. I am 24 and 30 is fine for a future husband but I’d prefer someone closer to my age. I think at 30 men have been able to ”achieve” more than someone younger, and are still comparatively young. Men at 40 that are single are probably so for a reason, and age is not increasing attraction. If anything: people might marry someone more, due to money, but will not find them more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:56 AM
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I read a study that women perceive a larger amount of men as attractive when they hit 30, and that's when female libido peaks, so it's not perceived as settling or lowered standards, I guess if anything it's a biological adaptation to lower desireability post 30. A younger woman has more to chose from, and benefits from even biologically speaking (as in not only actions, but say who she feels attraction to) being picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:58 AM
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Oh yeah ahaha, they project their own sexuality onto women or take women with more “masculinised” sexual behaviour (I don’t mean this negatively but promiscuousity and sexual competition is strongly associated with testosterone in both genders) as a norm for women. If they think disagreeing with this is LARP then there is no hope for them, and anything remotely normal or conservative doesn’t exist in their head, let alone strongly so. (I don’t mean conservative politically but a more traditional…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:49 PM
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Mind telling more on being accused of larping? I am just curious about your case. I was brought up by both parents (married) but also had a strong influence from grandparents. I feel detached from my generation a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:56 PM
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I think people often confuse gender roles with 1950s social roles. On the family farm there was a division of work and the woman did more of the housework but… women did help too and men interacted a lot with their children. I belive gender roles are largely natural but the understanding of it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:51 PM
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Discussion on gender dynamics based on evolutionary psychology or just psychology in general I guess. Not ”dating and sex issues” because that’s personal, I meant more from an academic perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:48 PM
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Not in the actual scientific research so… Kind of dissapointed tbh that it is like this 😕
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:41 PM
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Is there any page who discusses this or just evolutionary psychology which is not full of political ideology and sexually frustrated men projecting that onto it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:52 AM
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Oh no, is this spreading to the US? This will lead to an increase in abortions if it happens and it will make men lose all sense of responsibility. My opinion? Both people consented to parenthood and lifelong commitment when they had intercourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:37 AM
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Eh it was a bit of an exaggeration/figure of speach, however compare the experience to being in southern Europe and it’s night and day. Even to the US or central Europe. Men here are much more careful, subtle and indirect. Even in Sweden there is a difference in how swedish men vs immigrant background men pick up, even when the aim is the same. More dropping hints here too. With that in mind yes obviously it happens here as well, but it’s a very different cultural phenomenon compared to the US f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:31 AM
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Women don’t even want ”access to much sex” which is the constant argument from TRP in why apparently dating favours women. I’m talking on average but having that is men projecting their wishes onto women. So whatever. Current dating market is in favour of men, even for the most attractive and nice and fun and agreeable and interesting and common goals women, the sort of commitment that was possible 100 or even 60 years ago is not a thing anymore. I live in Sweden so it might be extreme but still…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:06 AM
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Yeah i think it's 20% science, 20% misinterpretation of science, 30% men projecting their sexuality or attitude onto women, 30% taken out of the air.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:42 PM
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This is not really an accurate description of how it is done in practice. Women desire and look out for where they can find both traits in one man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:39 PM
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They get to know each other usually through work, common aquintances etc. and start off as friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:35 PM
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What is a cone of melting icecream? Are you talking about body shape? For women that is genetic. The difference between healthy weight range and good shape doesn’t really exist for us. But ok, 5’4-5’5 (164), 123 lbs (54 kg?), 0.64 WHR. But I’m in Europe and we aren’t fat on average. My sister is slim and straight, my mother overweight and hourglass so… it’s genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:07 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:40 AM
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- Shit gets shit. Men think women today are not worth being chivalrous for. But, women think it's not worth being good for the men today. Most women see it as not worth it, such as no good men so why should I give him what he wants when he can't give me what I want. Both men and women say "where have the good men/women gone". However, women of today you can't say have some sort of hereditary sin for the sexual revolution. It's a shit argument. I know women who critisised it when it came, and wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:06 PM
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Yep! You do talk about casual things with friends though. But not with strangers and it takes harder to get to know a swede. But once you are friends you have a friend for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:46 PM
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Scandinavians aren’t much taller than the rest of Europe. We are tall because of it being a rich counyry since 1900 and neutrality during world wars, who made us richer instead. Other countries are catching up. But yes. Scandinavian men pretend to be friends at the very best and pretend not to be interested. Catcalling doesn’t happen or only by extreme coomers to women that dress like yeah. But they pretend not to be interested, it is gay to approach a woman etc. No chivalry ever, no holding up …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 04:22 PM
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But TRP fundamentally misunderstands thinks and think men should be either “pussies” or assholes, not understanding women like strong but chivalrous men. If they continue trying to emulate the asshole because they notice it’s more effective than “the pussy” they will never succeed if aim is family. Women chose the asshole over the pussy if that's their best options because it indicates some protection skills and ability to chose a woman for who she is so him being with her is more special, they …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:43 PM
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Eh, I know ”Chads” who orbit- the guys who easily can get ONS but women don’t want to be their girlfriends. That just means being in love or showing interest and it not being reciprocated. That’s normal. And most men orbit to some degree. Depends on culture. In Scandinavia men wait until women approach them, then I saw a tweet on an Italian woman complaining american men don’t simp enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:38 PM
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This is a normal relationship. Money is a joint thing and people do what they are best at and like most.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 01:33 PM
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Since when are household chores split evenly? Can you split pregnancy and breast feeding evenly? Why should you split evenly? My dad would forget children needed gloves in the winter and are on avg worse at ”taking care”. Men are more adapted to providing, which requires stress tolerance, women to taking care of domestic things where stress sensitivity is a good thing because you need to react to small things. In islam, a man’s money is the money of the couple, and the woman’s money is the money…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 01:31 PM
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