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You see those types of couples every now and then, but generally it doesn’t happen because these people don’t run into each other
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:45 AM
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You and I both know that the context is about a public figure/celebrity asking that of a sexual partner
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:23 PM
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Do you routinely ask questions in bad faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:52 PM
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True, but someone who refuses to sign an NDA gives you an indication that you shouldn’t mess with them… if the overwhelming age gap wasn’t enough somehow
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:39 PM
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This is unfortunately a common trend with athletes. A lot of them will spend a good part of their formative years training for the chance of becoming a pro, when their peers are developing interpersonal relationships and skills with people around them. And then when they are pro, various adults view them as a commodity to profit from, whether it’s their own relatives, agents, financial advisers, trainers or women who want to get pregnant at any cost. So to answer your question, the system is fla…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:34 AM
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Isn’t he a 23 year old man, and the mother to be a 38 year old woman? Adding to that wasn’t she reportedly trying to file her child support claim in California?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:19 AM
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Not only that, she asked him to nut insider her, which he then did. Legally he is a willing participant and on the hook for any consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 11:23 AM
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I find that weird considering that making connections online has become so easy. Some of these connections might lead to offline friendships too
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 07:42 AM
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Someone being honest and signaling that you shouldn’t deal with them isn’t a cause for concern. It’s a good thing when they go on and make these kinds of statements
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:07 PM
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Why do I hear ra ra rasputin?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:01 AM

The way men are socialised is pushing them towards seeing a wife as their sole or main social need. This is why men above a certain age without a relationship are seen as social failures and rejects. Another way of seeing this is how male friendships wither when one man gets a relationship, whether it’s due to having less time, relating a lot less with each other or simply having a partner who doesn’t approve of some friends (more common than you think) The disappearance of male only places make…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:21 PM
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It’s a bit excessive. If there’s something from the relationship that you’re not getting, make it known. If your partner then makes it known that they don’t care about you feeling unloved or isn’t interested in trying to find a compromise, you now have the easiest solution which is ending the relationship. Tracking this data is just a way to say that you want something but don’t have the guts to go after something.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:00 PM
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Being inconsistent like that is actually very human
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 06:46 PM
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There's plenty of people, male or otherwise, who travel and end up falling in love or travel for love specifically. The only difference is that they never felt the need to explain themselves or label themselves. For instance, one of my childhood friends learned Spanish and has since fallen in love with the cultures of various South American countries. Over the years she's built up an entire new life in Brasil and now lives there with her partner
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:24 PM
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Still likely a green card affair, it's fairly easy to find out who comes from a western country
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:12 PM

Whoever can strangle me first so I can avoid reading these questions
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:26 PM
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Very good points, I think a lot would change if guys would do that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:11 PM
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Part of it is the nature of online discourse, but generally speaking all of the well-adjusted people that are single don't often run into a well-adjusted person from the opposite gender. This becomes worse online. I genuinely believe that either way, you'll have better outcomes meeting people offline
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 04:08 PM
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In general, I think men are in a worse place in terms of having to conform to gender stereotypes or be rejected preemptively. The other side of the equation is how vicious men are towards other men who very clearly don't fall in line. Things would be much better if men were kinder towards each other. On a social level, this might even have the benefit of having more socially adjusted guys out there, which for some guys would have a net benefit on romantic relationships and non romantic ones Wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 04:03 PM
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Unfortunately, many parents are as glued to screens as their kids are
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 01:53 PM
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Not to be dick or anything, but wanting others to respond positively to your kindness is a sign of insecurity. Regardless of whether you're a woman or not, people will always be rude for whatever reason. If you want to be kind to others because that's part of your values or desires, it's best to just ignore or kill them with kindness. Try not being so affected by other people being rude, it's got nothing to do with you. It's something that reflects poorly on them. You can't control how people ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 01:06 PM
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there's probably more people, like shut ins and addicted to some type of media or internet or game than ever before. Modern society does make it easy, but there's a variety of reasons as to why someone decides to retreat into media and internet. One of the biggest is people's upbringing. telling someone ''you shouldn't do that'' will not change anything. Yes, that is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 12:47 PM
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ITT: People arguing about whether their hobbies are superior to other people's hobbies
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 12:37 PM
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If they are a pitfall of sedation, it just means that you shouldn't devote your entire life to it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 12:21 PM
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Hold up, what did nick Cannon say? Is he with a bunch of older women as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 10:00 PM
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Maybe radicalisation (as if that's not happening on multiple fronts already) or an increase in apathy. But I highly doubt that this is going to lead into some "oh no no, the sexless males are rallying behind the next dictator with eugenics fantasies". Primarily because women are still able to find some guy in his 30s/late 20s they can settle down with after having had all the excitement they wanted to find in their 20s. Let me also state that some of these mgtow types are also the first to bend …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:33 PM
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Zaun will rise
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:21 PM
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Thank you very much for sharing this with me. I was aware of how violent chimpanzee society can be, but the parts about Bonobo's are very surprising to me. Very nice that they put these two together so that we could see a contrast. Given that we're also close to Bonobo's, I think we should have the potential to create similar societies to theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:18 PM
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Like I said, in many ways it hurts their bottom line
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:10 PM
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I'm guessing this will create a lot of situations like the movie Her
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:09 PM
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Do you happen to be a fan of Arcane?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:08 PM
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I'm the worst :(
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:59 PM
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I don't know, that's why I asked you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:58 PM
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We couldn't look at matriarchal societies and study how they work?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:30 PM
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Consent needs to be recorded in real time on video tape, otherwise you just have that person's consent in that point of the interaction and they may have retracted it later. The lawyer then says that no consent was given for the recording and then continues to build an entire blackmail narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:26 PM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:24 PM
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This reminds me of a Twitter thread where the same was suggested. Then black women went and spoke about how the slavery Era wasn't entirely a male endeavor
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:20 PM
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Yeah I see what you're getting at. It will be too late for them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:15 PM
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My bad, I just misunderstood you Compulsive heterosexuality means people who already aren’t straight are only straight bc of socialization. I think making it acceptable for people who aren't straight to be more open in their own sexuality is a good thing and it seems society is heading that way. I just don't know if that means a major shift for men, because there's a lot of differenced on the kinsey scale
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:11 PM
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The biggest obstacle to this is men like TRP who want to drag us back to patriarchy and religious fundamentalists. They're delaying things a lot. I think that you'd have the status quo even without them. Do you really think that low status men on the internet are the only ones who uphold patriarchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:58 PM
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Encourage men to live a life not entirely motivated by women’s attention. This is probably the most healthiest way to solve this, if only male desire wasn't so profitable. Fund education, activities, and programs that get young men outside and motivated to find happiness and accomplishment through art, sports, science, whatever might interest them outside of dating and relationships. Social programs that focus on men? Now that's a thing I think won't happen. Democrats wouldn't want to hurt their…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:54 PM
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It will probably lead to eugenics to be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:48 PM
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Would be a shame if someone tinkered with it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:48 PM
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It's a problem that will correct itself due to war or a big number of people passing away
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:47 PM
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Just open a consent form business and get it over with
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:47 PM
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I like how this implies that women aren't capable of the worst as much as men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:46 PM
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I think men should look for wives from other countries and cultures to be honest, where women still have a more traditional outlook on life and marriage. I get what you're trying to say but I'm willing to argue that the type of woman who would be into that is the type that wants to escape her culture to begin with, so you'll get more than you bargained for. On that same note those same dudes who try to get relationships that way, a bunch of them do get taken advantage of in some way. I don't und…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:43 PM
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Has the throw em in a meat grinder solution worked for the generations of men that led to this phenomenon?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:37 PM
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Aren't the youngest millenials almost thirty? I'm guessing they'll need it more than you think
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:34 PM
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Are you seriously going to suggest people should somehow change their sexuality? Kinda weird
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:30 PM
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Wouldn't this end up with dudes forming militias that will turn their back on the government or something like that? I'm not sure why you'd want to put weapons in the hands of disenfranchised men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:29 PM
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If there were roughly equal numbers of males and females looking to meet someone, there could be a social program for matchmaking or dating or something along those lines. I don't know any matchmakers but I highly doubt this won't end up any different than online dating
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:23 PM
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This doesn't even touch on why women are opting out of marriage either, but there is a perception that marriage restricts freedom there for both men and women. I would argue that partly due to the internet, this sentiment is growing in the western world as well
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:19 PM
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I keep hearing about sexbots as a solution but I'm very skeptical in regards to this
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:16 PM
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Men aren't viewed as in need of protection, therefore anything that happens to men is just something men need to figure out themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:14 PM
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I've always been a bit apprehensive about church folks and their views on marriage. Lacks a lot of nuance imo. The old biddies go out of their way to say "She never married" dripping with gleeful pity, but the old maids will always be accused of trying to chase men even when they don't do anything but sit there looking at the floor. That's because for some reason, people think it's perfectly fine to go after the outsider but not the person they should actually call out, their partner. At least I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 05:45 PM
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That's sad, writing someone off based on something like that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 05:33 PM
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It's like a man that is getting plenty of dates but he doesn't like that the only women who date him are fat. A lot of people oftentimes don't really understand who they attract and why If you want a different outcome, you're going to have to do some self-reflection and then some work. Exactly. There's only one common denominator after all. Attractive people are not going to just fall on your lap. Especially when you're very average or in a highly competitive environment
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 05:32 PM
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Yeah I do hear that Korean gender discourse is vastly different from here in the west
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:01 AM
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Given how competitive Korean culture seems to be, this is a recipe for disaster. They are setting the future generation up for failure
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:00 AM
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But like, my comment is about guys who have resentment towards wgtow feeling hurt on a personal level. I don't mean to he rude, but I don't see how your comments are related to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 01:57 AM
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What are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 01:33 AM
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So basically, the lack of success they have depends on how many of their demands and needs have been met
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 01:31 AM
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It's not so much the taking care of parents, it's the loneliness. Many cultures outside of western ones still do this, but generally in the past you used to have the grandparents live in with their son or daughter. The grandparents getting to see their grandchildren, the parents having people who can help with the children sometimes, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 01:25 AM
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That's quite odd. Families getting certain rights makes sense, as Korea notoriously has a dwindling population and in general it makes sense to support people who are building families cause they're the ones raising the next tax payers, brilliant citizens and all that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 01:13 AM
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If you put it like that, it's quite sad
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 01:06 AM
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I see your point, but are they like that with some wgtow woman who they aren't related to?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 12:56 AM
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They HATE men because they cannot HAVE men. The women on there are probably unattractive, socially awkward, lacking social intelligence, etc etc all leading to their lack of success with life & dating. It baffles me how in this day and age women could have a lack of success dating, unless you mean bad dates/relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 12:44 AM
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Just don't ask for my tax dollars to do it, like the women in Korea are. Wait what? Are you for real?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 12:27 AM
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I don't particularly care. It's a bit weird to be so interested in the lives of complete strangers. And chances are I'd never really encounter a WGTOW anyway, because it's not something you write on your forehead as you go about your own life. If I were to give an educated guess, it is because WGTOW comes across as a statement about how a woman feels about men in general, which in some dudes will cause some hurt on a personal level. Thinking about the internet though, there's very likely a diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 12:17 AM
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The resentment some men have is akin to the resentment some women have when they see attractive men date much younger women. They see potential sex/relationships with those individuals. To then see a non-trivial number of those potential options disappear can be disappointing. This makes a lot of sense. The resentment some dudes seem to have does come across as a very personal hurt
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 12:10 AM
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Kinda feels bad for my mother
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 12:07 AM
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It's free real estate!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:08 AM
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Thanks, I needed a good laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:06 AM
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But they like tell me stories and send me screenshots of text messages. So my barometer isn’t too far off. Anything, or just a curated version?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 10:37 PM
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Isn't it because being nice and sweet is kind of supposed to be the bare minimum? I can't see any guy with properly enforced boundaries thinking that someone who is horrible and mean to them is the person they want to start an LTR with. Most friends I have asked what they saw in the girls they were dating, would usually say something that can be boiled down to "she's nice and sweet +...". What I'm trying to say is, that guys also to be into you and not get bored beyond you just being nice and sw…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 10:30 PM
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I slightly disagree, but only because it's not always clear what aspect of the parent the kids have taken on. On top of that, there's people who grow up being the exact opposite of their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 10:23 PM
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A lot of backseat drivers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 09:23 AM
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It becomes obvious once you understand the group's dynamics. Sometimes it will be that one quiet guy, other times it's the loudmouth who gets himself into fights, sometimes it's the group mascot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 01:40 PM
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But I am LOL at the dudes who can’t shut up about how awful, gross and mentally ill women with high n counts are but when someone suggests men who sleep around are no different, they lose their shit and start demanding “studies.” Again, I think you have the wrong comment. You see, I only come to this sub to see how out of touch with reality people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 06:15 AM
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So we're going by anecdotes?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 01:48 AM
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Disconnected from reality aren't we?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 12:11 AM
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Could you share some reputable studies which support the claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 11:55 PM
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This post reads like it was written by a dude trying to get a raise out of people. If you are a dude, kudos for the effort you put into writing that. If not, this would be one of the most awkward "lmao, femcel" posts I've seen on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/19 09:31 PM
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That still means that she's not attractive herself
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/19 09:25 PM
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The more I encounter these types on reddit, the more I believe you can't teach being an attractive person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/19 09:23 PM
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Because only morons on the internet are stupid enough to think that them being short is holding them back from finding a girl who likes them as much as they like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/19 09:21 PM
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I'm just answering a question. You're calling guys stupid and I'm saying it also has to do with women leading the guy on, lying and having him believing that she's not ready for sex yet instead of just telling him to fuck off I know. I was saying that in general. I'm calling guys stupid because they commit to someone leading them on. They didn't see the signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 05:07 PM
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That's what guys hear when they wait for women to put out. Because most guys know that if you are the right guy, the whole "I want to trust you more" talk is very unlikely to be given to you. Not to be a dick, but either the sexual tension is there or it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 04:47 PM
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But that's just them being stupid. Why invest in someone who doesn't put out?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 10:01 AM
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All the more a reason to not put much stock into what she says. It just sounds like "I got mine, so".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 09:57 AM
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Maybe it will, maybe it won't. Pointless to worry about the x amount of women being single. Find you a nice girl before you hit 30, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 09:49 AM
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Then again, if wages continue to drop wrt the inflating dollar, work days will rise, who’ll have time to date? Those with enough money to somehow have time . Or those who control how their time is spent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 09:42 AM
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Question is are those relationships great? Or those the type where they're together because they don't want to be alone? Not to mention, dead bedrooms and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 09:40 AM
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Ah I see. Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 10:31 AM
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LPS?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 08:35 AM
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Guys can opt out of being a dad anytime they want. By becoming a fugitive so he doesn't risk jail time for not paying up. If I knock up a woman I'm likewise financially responsible. That's just life -- deal with it. You know full well that anti-abortion folks come with that same angle when it comes down to women. So what is it going to be, rules for thee not for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 08:25 AM
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I do think that the sub goes far to protect women's feelings. Still, /r/AskMen has more meaningfull discussion than /r/AskWomen. /r/MensLib is just a bunch of dudes singing kumbaya around a campfire
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:18 PM
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Serious question: where did you learn all of this? I'm rather surprised to hear someone is making a profit over their bitcoins and it not being just because they were first adopters.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/06/19 11:17 PM
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In all honesty, you should tell. It's important to tell your loved ones when you're dealing with something. I do have to add though: the number of men on r/askMen who have made the observation that women lost their attraction to them as soon they opened up emotionally is not exactly small. Of course r/purplepilldebate will waive this away as a bunch of incels that were looking for a mom and failed to realise that a healthy relationship needs two adults, but I digress. Regardless of the outcome, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 02:01 AM
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What I don't understand is why TRP cares enough to mock women who struggle balancing their career and relationships. It's like dunking over a midget. Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 03:03 PM
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Isn't a good part of TRPs tradcon? I doubt they care much for you calling them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 02:57 PM
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I don’t know which guys you are talking about, but the ones I’m referring to definitely have prominent bone structures and masculine features.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 03:19 AM
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Nah, all I’m saying is that it is not that deep and that not every other guy out there has the same tastes as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 03:16 AM
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Validation
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 02:31 AM
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And why would other guys agree with your tastes? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and yours sure as hell ain’t mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 02:28 AM
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Also, actually good looking guys (male models, 10% that most women INITIALLY want) are often feminist or leftist and sadly many short guys (very short) are these sort of various anti-feminist. They often don't know that they are 10%. Most of the guys I’ve known to fit this, are neither feminists nor leftist. Matter of fact some think it’s a sport to pick up bleeding heart types of girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 02:09 AM
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So basically, what a lot of dudes do?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 09:11 PM
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I've been told to cheer up often. And bouncers sure love the permanent scowl I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 02:33 AM
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You're conflating two different emotional responses: getting teary vs display of anger. Women's tears, especially if white and UMC, are very powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 02:27 AM
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I'm told to cheer up often. And bouncers think I want to start trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 02:24 AM
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This sounds like nature vs nurture. I'd argue that we have a blueprint that has specific personality traits, but upbringing, environment and experience determine how these traits come to surface. For example as a kid I was very outgoing and turbulent, but growing up my personality did a 180. Our family doctor once casually told me that he noticed that I could sit quietly like a normal person whereas younger me couldn't sit still, effectively telling me that the difference was like night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 02:09 AM
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A good part of this sub could use this advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 01:46 AM
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Chalk it down to poor social skills. A lot of intelligent people fail at displaying their intelligence in a way that isn't adversarial.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 11:17 AM
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Yes, going by the prevalence of those type of couples I'd say it's better. For men, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 12:39 AM
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The reality is that most people are fine. Only a very few people are truly undatable because sooner or later most people settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 12:15 AM
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Well yeah? I mean, it being an opinion aside, it sounds like common sense. But people who buy too much into it tend to give the dumbest kneejerk reactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 10:30 PM
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Well what doesn't help, is that over here there's this widespread phenomenon of straight women getting bad haircuts as soon as they hit the age of 30 or have their first kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 10:28 PM
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Both, actually. This mainly come down to long hair being universally considered attractive and beautiful. A friend of mine used to tell me that women who can't grow their hair long often get the short end of the stick. She made it sound like they're suffering. As a man, I don't really relate that well to it but I can see it. Over here there's this stereotype of white women getting a very unattractive short haircut as soon as they hit the age of 30 or have their first kid. I've seen it happen to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 10:16 PM
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As for lesbians, I think having short hair is often a "signaling" thing, and most straight women with short hair don't have the same kinds of haircuts that lesbians get. Experience has led me to think that very few women know how to make a short haircut look cool, cute or sexy. Unfortunately, those who do tend to be lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 10:05 PM
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sounds fun, though I can see how that could end up being troublesome at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 09:49 PM
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Personally I think divorce and avoidance of marriage is a societal ill. It is contributing to the demolition of the stable family unit. So yes, I think it is a bad thing. I guess this is where we differ then. I don't see marriage as something that is holy anymore, and yes I do think that the ease of divorce has made things take a bad turn. I also don't think that everyone is made for marriage and that marriage shouldn't be a bucket list goal, so I'm assuming we'll never see eye to eye on this. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:39 PM
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You could make arguments that society at large seeks to infantilize women and treat them like children. For instance that whole ordeal with a woman who had a bad date and suddenly thinking it was sexual assault. That this even became such a big story and a topic of discussion only further proves that society has trouble telling women to take personal responsibility where it matters. Loyalty huh. For each TRP dude who says that I could probably find a misandrist who says the same thing about men.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 06:39 AM
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But hey, now you too can become an Alpha if buy this seemingly normal t-shirt! TRP are good at marketing, you gotta admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:32 AM
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Which is mostly what I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 10:55 PM
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You can't. Most men have to go through a bad woman to understand what they really want in a woman, whether they want an LTR, an FWB or a mini harem. See it as part of growing pains.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 02:43 PM
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Average guys don't exactly need to be a girl's friend in order to get sex. Just be open with your desire to fuck her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 02:34 PM
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I get a lot of satisfaction from porn and masturbation, and I also receive companionship, kindness, intimacy, and even sex from prostitutes. Do you really think that a prostitute gives intimacy? I do know that escorts offer lonely men someone to talk to, but does it really beat having a close friendship or even a long term relationship? I really doubt that. In the future we will be ordering girlfriend or boyfriend experience on our smartphones and the transactions will be settled on a decentrali…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 02:31 PM
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There is no need to be so toxic. I do think it's odd to call for a mod to step down without any claim or evidence of him/her doing a bad job, but is it really necessary to be this hostile?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 02:16 PM
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Because many red pill ideas are sort of already prevalent in society. RP just gives it a whole bunch of new speak and whatnot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 01:35 PM
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I'm still looking for the punchline of this otherwise amusing post. It would've been nice to include one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 11:42 AM
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Not only are these women not that old, they also are some of the most prolific women out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 11:33 AM
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Isn't this prevalent in pretty much men and women? I think this is one of those things society at large is going through. It's very similar to how the number of people with asshole behaviour has increased.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 09:50 PM
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We fishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 09:42 PM
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I fully agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 10:19 PM
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Yeah, I got that. Honestly don't even see how someone could construe that as racist. Count yourself fortunate to not having witnessed how far mental gymnastics can go.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 09:39 PM
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war.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 09:34 PM
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Thanks for the link, gave me some insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 09:16 PM
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"waaah, how racist!" In all seriousness, yeah. Duh, of course. Source: Am Black.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 09:08 PM
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That's usually the endgame of an ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 08:51 PM
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Infighting between liberals is not unheard of. Especially when progressives are present.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 08:47 PM
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That's only because the confirmation that a champ is a normal person after all, gives a lot of relief to people out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 08:40 PM
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I'd probably be curious enough to ask why. Seems to me that she could have gone on tinder and gotten laid without paying. But guys and girls look at this differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 08:27 PM
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I relate to certain parts. However, I don't see myself as the pushover-type INFP sounds like.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 10:02 PM
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From what I seem to gather, men and women supposedly go through the end of a relationship differently. As long as you see it as a learning moment, it will be fine I think. A friend of mine gave me the best advice for dealing with the end of a relationship. She told me that "the best way to get over somebody, whether romantically or not, is to do the things for yourself that the person used to do for you". For example, if your ex used to tell you to pay attention to certain things in your life, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 09:59 PM
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I don't know. I've done the test several times, and I always get INTJ or INFP. So for me, not having a clear type sounds fishy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 09:44 PM
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you want to screw communism?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 09:29 PM
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Isn't the test incredibly inaccurate? Like, pop psychology level?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 09:27 PM
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I don't know r/TRP well, but aren't you as a BP, not really a credible source on those manospherian types? After all, isn't the Blue Pill position one of always opposing Red Pillers and other manospherian groups?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 09:25 PM
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This reminds me of stuff George Carlin used to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 02:04 PM
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People who really want change, people who talk in platitudes and people who need their "blank slate" theory to legitimize certain thoughts and rationale.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 01:03 PM
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As you said, it depends on how serious the relationship is. Marriage aside, kids are a serious dealmaker or dealbraker for people who want or don't want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 12:58 PM
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I don't mind make up, I mind "excessive" make up. What I mean by that is that if I were to touch a woman's face, I wouldn't want to have to wash my hands afterwards. At the same time, I also want to be able to recognize a woman with or without make up. As for surgery, I'm a bit split on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 12:36 PM
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I think that the situation you described is very close to what she must have gone through. She might have been open to spending the night with him, but his action invited some awkwardness and discomfort that just became a deal breaker. That said I agree 100% with your second paragraph. If she wasn't into it she had ample opportunity to leave, and ultimately what happened to her wasn't that big of a deal and has happened to pretty much every girl who's gone home with a drunk horny dude. Agreed. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 04:55 PM
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The thing is that it will appear that way to a woman. A woman knows very quickly if a guy is just wanting to be friends with her or really wants more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 04:16 PM
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There's a vast difference between becoming friends with a girl and sex being a consequence later on, and becoming friends in hopes of fucking her. Even the way you address this reeks of the cost-benefit analysis nice guys use to rationalize their sexual strategy. If you want to become her dickless friend, that's fine. But if you want to fuck her, approach her like someone who wants to fuck her. Trying to get closer by establishing a friendship and hoping it becomes more is just weak shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 04:25 AM
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Nah, I really think she didn't want to fuck him. At least not right away. Reading her experience makes me think she really wanted a romantic encounter but got something entirely different. Ultimately it was on Aziz to make clear what he wanted, but also on her to firmly say no. (Even if some signs should have stopped him in his tracks). But even then I still find a it ridiculous that a bad date gets so much attention in a period of outing Sexual Assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 04:15 AM
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Fuck off with that demonization.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 04:09 AM
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You and your neckbeards should get a room.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 03:40 AM
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I'm still waiting for Terry Crews to get some justice. It's a very interesting case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 03:38 AM
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Guy reporting here. I'd say a range between 40% and 50%. I've experienced dry months, but that never made me want to have sex with a women I had already deemed boring and unattractive to fuck any more than in times where I get laid. This is because a weird thing occurs after we ejaculate: we basically become as asexual as a woman doing her taxes. Previously, a homely woman still seems like a good candidate for fun times, but after, all of that disappears. Happens with masturbation too. A guy is …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 02:57 AM
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Rather than spermjacking, I think it's more realistic to ask yourself about how often women lie about BC. Happened to a cousin of mine. Now, seven months later, he does love his son. He absolutely cannot stand the mother though, for reasons I can somewhat understand. But if she really did forget, then I'd feel bad for her even though she fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 02:47 AM
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I'm sure you have encountered men whose actions, mannerisms and speech patterns are very incel like. Some guys, even when they're not really incels, have similarities that surface in specific situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 08:56 PM
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Exactly. I think even Red Pillers will agree that no healthy individuals do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 11:51 AM
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I don't get the virgin fetishism at all. I perfectly understand not wanting to LTR/marry a slut, but why the virgin obsession? Aside from all the insecurities and anxieties they're bound to have around sex, those types of women are gonna be incompatible with the vast majority of terps anyway. I chalk it down to ego and incel-like mentality. In fact, most men I've seen being obsessed with virgins tend to be incel types.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 11:33 AM
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Media blasted him over it, but time over time I see dudes mentioning this rule. So I think a pence unwittingly became the PR for a rule some men in positions of power have been using for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 11:28 AM
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Equating the guys like Aziz with the guys like Weinstein is exactly the problem the metoo movement is creating. Congratulations on becoming a zealot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 11:25 AM
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No black European dude I know is interested in fat women. The only times I've seen a black guy with a fat woman is when he himself is fat. Most of my peers think that this is a strictly Afro American stereotype, that Americans other Anglosaxons wrongly ascribe to black dudes as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 06:19 AM
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One day I'll get rid of this stereotype that black dudes like fatties.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 06:13 AM
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If I took a guess based on your initial comment, I guess some more might reply. Not entirely suprised though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 05:30 AM
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My thoughts on the matter: "As I went down on him, he refused to recognize my non-verbal cues."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 05:09 AM
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"As I went down on him, he refused to recognize my non-verbal cues."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 05:07 AM
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Yet she is still out there, trying to slander Aziz. Give me a break with your no true scotsman fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 05:05 AM
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Hollywood going nuclear.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 05:03 AM
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I'm guessing most answers will be self improvement, apathy or seeking fulfilment outside of the romantic aspect of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 01:19 AM
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You get a nice personality and pray that will do the trick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 01:11 AM
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The problem is that the 6-7 might not bring to the table what he desires, because judging from his relationships he's looking for a woman with a specific look and then some. It's the latter part that's most likely part of his unsuccessful attempts at finding the one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 08:48 AM
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I would also argue that there's probably good sources (such as well-regarded books) out there to improve your flirting and humor, but they are never mentioned. I suppose the effort of reading such books is shunned.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 08:44 AM
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Teaching how to tease a woman is just weird. It's something you do (from an early age) without being prompted to or taught by anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 07:20 AM
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"You're fired, and you're fired. You are fired! Everyone is fired!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 07:15 AM
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Aye , I see where you're coming from. Coffee breaks turn into gossip rounds fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 07:12 AM
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And all of that because a man dared to ask a woman for drinks. They have way too much time on their hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 07:11 AM
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That has failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 10:49 PM
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isn't complimenting on how a person smells prone to be seen as creepy regardless? You set yourself up for failure opening with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 10:35 PM
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obviously, sexualizing interactions It's pretty exciting though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 10:34 PM
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If you're not a creep, it'll be fine I guess? Or just have a conversation with multiple people. No one says you need to sit next to Jennifer and continuously engage in conversation with her, mingle! Worst case let her initiate if you're worried.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 10:30 PM
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This. Exactly this. It's already bad enough that you need to spell it out for people. This scenario seems common.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 10:27 PM
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Both are fair points. I'm just very curious to see where this is going.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 10:21 PM
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Elevator gate? lol wat?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 10:18 PM
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You Pence rule?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 10:11 PM
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Look, I'm actually pro-porn (love it! Both personally and with my husband), but there are guys who use it as a substitute for actual intimacy. The increasing number of those guys - not to mention the guys who use it as an instruction manual - is concerning. The first question that comes to mind in me is "do men and women even seek the same thing in sex?" Because if they don't, then the girl can desire all the intimacy she wants, but those guys won't care about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 10:06 PM
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Japan isn't the canary in the coal mine. Different culture and norms, for starters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 10:02 PM
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And yet it seems so often is what they push for least the more radical kind. As least on reddit in the feminist subs they actually do advocate for this. I never thought I'd ever say this but internet feminists are a minority. Yes, feminists don't call other feminists out often, but internet feminists have a tendency to say what they say because the internet isn't a microcosm of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 09:36 PM
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He probably wouldn't wanna keep her around in the first place if she was a 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 09:31 PM
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Why not just look for someone with blonde hair, good looks that does meet his other criteria's?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 08:16 PM
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I doubt they will cheer at this. I mean, the Pence-Graham rule was immediately labelled as sexist. Like your article suggests, men avoiding contact with women is the last thing they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 05:54 PM
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No. What I meant is that the couple should seek to grow in a way that doesn't stray the relationship. It's very hard to maintain the relationship when one partner is changing. For instance if a husband is working out more and moving up the ladder at his job, then this might create a strain at home because his wife isn't growing with him. EDIT: I misunderstood what you said, my bad. Yes, you're right. They shouldn't grow apart. Instead, they should seek to grow together again.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 05:43 PM
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Very few couples grow together.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 04:40 PM
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I've just read the article. Really surprised how much the FUD you mentioned has progressed. Yeah now I see where you're coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 04:36 PM
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r/deadbedrooms is leaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 02:58 PM
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20? Aren't you giving a little too much credit there?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 02:53 PM
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In a way, men who want ONS have to manage the interest they inspire so as not to get women too much in love with them. No we don't. Or rather, we're not obliged to. If you're an adult getting into a ONS, you know what you got into. Catching feelings is your own problem, whether you're a guy or a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 02:40 PM
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Pence rule....... Yes, the Pence rule is a great way to prevent an accusation of having any affect. Thanks for mentioning it, I think that men should adhere to that rule. t won't but the FUD has already started and its growing. And there's a possibility with all the progress for women in workplace goes away. By that I mean men mentoring women may decrease or that stop at some point. Men may avoid being with women one on one in a room. Etc etc. Has it really? I have yet to hear guys try to get an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 02:28 PM
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The true romantics are incels. As in, their ideas of romance are so strong, that upon failure they morphed into what constitutes the incel mentality. But if men are the true romantics, why do they not typically enjoy romanticism in media and in some forms of consumerism? Men enact romance, women reciprocate romance. With that in mind, men kind of have to be romantic even out of reluctance. Romanticism in media and some forms of consumerism is largely based on what women find romantic, which lead…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 10:57 PM
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You do what a lot of men before you have done. You date, fail, and gain enough experience along the way to find out what kind of woman you want, what kind of woman is attracted to you, and how to attract the woman you want an LTR with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 10:46 PM
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You should hang out on other subreddits more to understand that all kinds of people spend time on Reddit. Good shitpost though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 10:42 PM
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Opening that can of worms huh
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 10:38 PM
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Shouldn't you pm him if you have an issue with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 10:36 PM
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On the dating level it wouldn't affect men as much, since it would only happen for those who fuck women or those who encounter a particularly nasty woman. On the professional level though, good luck trying to defend yourself when an accusation flies towards you. It will probably be a thing, but it won't be an epidemic the mgtow's and other neurotic guys fear. Either way, it's far too early to talk of such dramatic scenarios. Relax and enjoy the current status quo of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 10:29 PM
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Huh? I thought most people looked down upon sheltered people?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 10:02 PM
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But from the moment a woman is accepted as an "honorary man", it's no longer a male space. The dynamics within the group now changed. To be honest I'm not really interested in the grievances around gendered spaces, as I think that male and female spaces will exist for quite some time. In the case of male spaces gatekeeping against women however, I often wonder if men should just treat everyone the same (so men should treat women like they treat other men) or should men coddle women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 10:35 PM
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I don't get it. You had a great debate with him, but then you had to go and pull a "you're one of those people".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 10:24 PM
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Unless it's something specifically gendered I don't think it's heavy gatekeeping. Because if male video gamers all treated everyone the same (which a good amount most likely does), you'd still have people throwing harsh insults at others over online games.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 10:15 PM
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If it's about personal relationships, I don't really agree. I think that in a good relationship, you more or less act like a team. This doesn't necessarily mean that you constantly negotiate and try to get things done together. At one point one of the two will lead and the other will follow up, at a different point they switch roles. Take parenting for instance: great parents often tend to raise kids as a team, consistently making the effort of following up on the other's action.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 10:12 PM
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That's an argument I can agree with. It would be interesting to see how those bots would influence dating and human relationships. And whether they will cause a shift to occur amongst women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 03:50 PM
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Ah, that is true as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 09:35 PM
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Thanks for the explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 09:34 PM
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You still didn't answer him though. You're dancing around it using a strawman. Not saying he's entirely right in going toxic warrior, but if you can't even give a straight answer back to OP, you're just validating him in his perceived plight.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:25 PM
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Mod.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:18 PM
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IF you want to see the 80/20 rule in action, look no further than the world of sperm donors.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:00 PM
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But even back then there were men who died alone. If anything, in those days it was still the men with the most money/power/connections/looks who got the best women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 08:59 PM
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Not really. Your scenario is dependent on if the top 20% of men will actually go for sexbots instead of just doing as they've always have: having their pick of the best women. Hell, even if the 30% under the top 20% (the top beta's so to say) were to run off with sexbots, I doubt it would put that much of a dent in the whole 80/20 scheme.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 08:56 PM
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So in the end, TRP's are Beta Cucks who projected their own grievances around being Beta Cucks, but couldn't grow out of being Beta's?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 08:36 PM
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I don't think the premise is that good. I mean, it's only fairly recent that women have begun to outnumber men in college degrees obtained. This "are they giving back to society" question can only be asked after these female college grads actually have had some years to establish a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 08:32 PM
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I used to be told BP'ers were encouraging Beta Cucks to stay Beta Cucks. So which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 08:26 PM
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That's fun and all for you but in the end nobody cares. You could stand on a soapbox as much as you seem to want, nobody will remotely care because their own point of view is more superior than some stranger's point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 08:23 PM
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Short term satisfaction vs long term benefit. And a cute face does wonders.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 07:59 PM
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Attraction does not work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 07:53 PM
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He said Condoleeza Rice though.... Oh wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 07:50 PM
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Here's what I wonder though: who's to say you represent all guys? There's guys for who this will be an achievement. Maybe even a highlight of their existence. But there's also guys who seek companionship, a soulmate, someone to build a family with etc. People will define for themselves whether sleeping around a lot is an achievement or not, your point of view has as much value as some PUA going from woman to woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 07:48 PM
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if only he could get his dick hard to every one of them. Isn't this the answer in itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 07:38 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 07:10 PM
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Interesting that you're one of the rare people who says equity instead of equality. On the subject, just wait for a decade. If things continue, society is in for a very rude awakening.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 11:49 AM
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I don't see the issue. Everyone likes a car crash. Just sit back and enjoy the show.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 11:30 AM
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Don't be so negative! Surely you have qualities that a man would fancy in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 11:14 AM
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"Divorce rape" is usually justified. wow. I mean, I'm not sure how often the "rape" part actually happens in terms of reported claims. However, I don't think it's justified for a man to lose a large part of his assets as well as custody of his children (of course, if he's a danger to his children then yes they should not be the recipient of his threatening existence).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:51 AM
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The problem is that if there are women who simply refused, there will a whole slew "well why didn't you say no? Obviously he wasn't forcing that much, because X refused and nothing happened to their career" type of arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:16 AM
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Anecdotal evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:05 AM
1

I've seen this term being thrown around a lot. Could you tell me what a FUD is?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:03 AM
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Since you can't read the context outside of the lens of bias you have: Do all you can to improve your physical appearance. Lose the damn excess weight. Hair long. Makeup on. Dressed tastefully and femininely. In what world is giving someone the advice that they should ensure that their appearance is great (and that to do so they should lose excess weight, dress more attractively and get a nice hairstyle) derogatory? Yes, I agree he said don't be a bitch. He could have done a better job at phrasi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:00 AM
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Of course not. A lot of relationships don't necessarily occur due to some guy stepping up to a girl. some relationships just happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:47 AM
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I've never particularly cared about a woman's degree. This is probably also because I've never really met a woman that wasn't in one way or another my peer. So, I wouldn't say that a woman having a degree makes her attractive. What it does, however, is determine whether I'd present her in my social circles and how fast I would consider a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:46 PM
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Guys don't really hit the wall though. And if he's got a good social circle it's likely that he'll avoid much of the "what's wrong with him".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:32 PM
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Now now, to his credit he didn't say fat bitches. Both you and him have wonderful biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:29 PM
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On the other hand, I think that if men listened to feminism more, they'd become more empathetic and it would become easier and more fulfilling for them to have relationships, both sexual and otherwise. It's already a problem that boys are being taught mostly by female teachers. Do you really believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 10:06 PM
1

So, Reddit in a nutshell?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 09:25 PM
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There's a very big divide between making your partner jealous and coercing someone into having sex with you through fear. I think you're conflating those right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 09:23 PM
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I wouldn't say they "age better" as aging (well) can be influenced by variables such as social/emotional connection, income, health & exercise, time for leisure, stress levels, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 09:12 PM
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I always thought that this wall phenomenon occurs whenever an old woman realizes that men approach her differently. Something like the biological clock narrative, only applied in a superficial manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 09:07 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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