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FeminismBeljuril-home/r/MensRights14/04/23 05:00 AM
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FeminismBeljuril-home/r/MensRights03/01/22 01:36 AM
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DiscriminationBeljuril-home/r/MensRights18/11/23 06:23 AM
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misandryBeljuril-home/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/23 07:06 AM
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progressBeljuril-home/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/23 04:35 AM
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DiscriminationBeljuril-home/r/MensRights05/07/25 09:25 PM
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discussionBeljuril-home/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/22 02:15 AM
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GeneralBeljuril-home/r/MensRights13/06/24 01:04 AM
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Social IssuesBeljuril-home/r/MensRights05/05/22 02:47 AM
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mediaBeljuril-home/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/23 05:10 AM
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legal rightsBeljuril-home/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/22 01:17 AM
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Beljuril-home/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 05:35 AM
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ProgressBeljuril-home/r/MensRights21/07/20 04:13 PM
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But Lawyer also do the same to their client too right? in north america, yes. in UK, never - it's literally illegal.
/r/MensRights28/07/26 08:21 PM
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coaching a witness is illegal in the country involved (the UK) even if you coach them to tell the truth. so to the extent that the AI coached her on what to say it was inappropriate / illegal.
/r/MensRights28/07/26 08:01 PM
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I'm left of you friend, I just call out bigotry on all sides. Conservative means many things to plenty of people who see the world with more nuance than "team sports" politics allow.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/26 06:03 PM
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You don't think there's fiscally conservative people who are gay men and Christian women? You don't think people from the low, middle and upper class are all conservative? You don't think there's socially conservative people in the cities, the towns and rurally? You don't think there's black conservatives and white and Asian and every race too? If you're going to say the right isn't a big tent then you need to define "big tent", friend. The fact that you see conservatives as all the same says mo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/26 12:00 AM
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isn't this a summation of granted applications? you would get this outcome without and discrimination or bias at all if people were mostly applying for exemptions for female roles. i think this illustrates that the general populace think men don't need help (relative to women), not that the law is biased against men. is there proof that applications for male exceptions are being refused, or is this simply proof that more exception for females are requested? it's evidence of the sexists agency my…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/26 04:23 PM
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the problem with feminists feminism doubles down on harmful gender myths. In our society, women are seen as possessing hypoagency. This means that people think they are less capable then they really are. This causes them many problems in life that men don't face. However, those seen as less able are also seen as more deserving of help and assistance. Because women are falsely seen as weak, they are easily seen as victims. Conversely: men are seen as possessing hyperagency. This means that people…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/26 09:33 AM
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a free market is an economic system where prices, production, and distribution are determined primarily by supply and demand rather than government fiat. Government fiat like...random ass tariffs, cronyism, and market manipulation? exactly. the context is "controlled by the state" vs "not controlled by the state". if something is controlled by the state then it is not free. tariffs are taxes, they don't dictate what is bought and sold. the state is not controlling goods that have tariffs. exampl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 10:26 PM
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I would participate in that, honestly.
/r/MensRights18/07/26 09:52 PM
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Shaping a market means the market isn't free. i don't think that's true. a free market isn't defined as "zero government intervention." if it were, virtually no economist would describe any modern western economy as a free-market economy. a free market is an economic system where prices, production, and distribution are determined primarily by supply and demand rather than government fiat. markets can absolutely be regulated or shaped while still being fundamentally market economies. that's why …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 08:47 PM
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i think we're arguing different points. i'm not saying physical advantages justify legal discrimination against men. they obviously don't. nothing does. i'm responding to the broader claim that women have "life on easy mode." that isn't true because being male comes with real advantages too. the average man is substantially stronger, faster, more physically durable, less vulnerable to assault, doesn't experience pregnancy or menstruation, has fewer career disruptions from having children, and is…
/r/MensRights18/07/26 06:38 PM
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Look at the examples I gave, not his propaganda. (trade wars, cronyism, market manipulation) a: you didn't give examples, you gave accusations. b: i'll accept your claims without evidence out of respect. c: those accusations don't imply someone dislikes markets. they imply they want to shape markets. trump supports private ownership, private investment, lower corporate taxes, deregulation, and entrepreneurship. he also supports tariffs and industrial policy. that makes him a protectionist or eco…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 05:37 PM
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okay, once more, from the top: i hate trump and he is ruining my country. satisfied? okay. (rolls up sleeves) What makes you think he likes free markets? i hate defending the guy, but acting like he hates free markets is ludicrous. i've got quotes and stuff, but really... do you honestly think if you asked anyone on the street, regardless of race, class, or creed, if trump hates capitalism and free markets... what percentage of them do you think would say yes? i'm going to treat you like you are…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 04:54 PM
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apologies. let me go find it and i will answer again. my inbox is unusually full right now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 04:35 PM
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I'm answering from most recent because that's how Reddit displays things. I have a bunch of posts to respond to. I promise I won't ignore you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 03:54 PM
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Trump likes free markets because they benefit trump. He routinely participates in them to his advantage. Trump is pretty transparent. If he was against free markets he would just say so. What evidence do you have that he hates free markets the way that fascists did? It doesn't matter if some kids don't have to pledge allegiance to the flag, the default for your country is they do. That's pretty fascist. It might not look that way to you but that just proves my point how normalized it is in Ameri…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 03:49 PM
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Yes but just being able to lift stuff or open pickle jars is an advantage without tanks or bullets involved. If it actually comes down to tanks and bullets you still have a huge advantage just for being male... You can run away much faster and for much longer than you could otherwise. There's other advantages to being male as well... I can't believe I have to spell this out for you. People naturally look to you to lead. You can have kids without giving birth / your career is less disrupted. No m…
/r/MensRights18/07/26 03:45 PM
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I'm all ears...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 03:34 PM
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No I had multiple people say false things as if they were true. Read the thread, friend.nobody has told me I'm ignorant so how could that upset me? I'm actually pointing out the ignorance in this thread. This is why nobody is pointing out how I'm incorrect but still down voting me. That's the typical Reddit response to someone who points out an uncomfortable or inconvenient truth. If I was actually wrong people would be lining up to point out how.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 03:26 PM
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The thing is... I hate trump and am not defending his party. I am just calling out bigotry and poor reasoning. Most of what op is talking about has nothing to do with gender and thus nothing to do with men's rights. Pointing that out isn't "defending" anyone, it just looks that way to people with team sports "anyone who criticises our side must be on their side" mentality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 03:23 PM
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Right but men are faster, stronger and harder to kill. How much strength, endurance and physicality would you give up for a legal advantage? Most men have never experienced what it's like to have the upper body strength of a women, so we take it for granted. Many of my girl friends who were more sporty than me were surprised how easily I could out wrestle them. It's pretty easy to pin a woman who is your size. Each gender has different advantages.
/r/MensRights18/07/26 03:09 PM
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the entire Republican party has centered itself around Trump and purged anyone who isn't loyal enough. time to reassess your news bubble. a may 2026 YouGov poll found that 62% of republicans identified as MAGA. alright, seriously... the amount of misinformation in this thread is killing me. americans and their team sport planet-ruining politics have taken up enough of my thoughts for tonight. enjoy your fascism, may it be flavoured red or blue to your tastes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 09:32 AM
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nah, thier challenges are just different. it's easy to take the things you have for granted but there's a lot that great / easier about being male too.
/r/MensRights18/07/26 09:19 AM
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i'm guessing you are from scandinavia? where i'm from "native men" means something totally different.
/r/MensRights18/07/26 09:18 AM
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men seeking equality face an additional barrier that most other equality-seeking groups don't: from the time they are born they are conditioned against seeing themselves as victims. the great sexist lie that nobody ever addresses: men have agency and act, women lack agency and are acted upon. until men as a class start recognizing and accepting themselves as victims of systemic sexism, it will be hard for them to act en masse.
/r/MensRights18/07/26 09:15 AM
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that is exactly what the person you are responding to said. you are offering supporting evidence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 08:19 AM
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you know that not all republicans are MAGA, right? 1) this is most americans. you pledge allegence to the flag every day and have to sing the national anthem before playing a sport. 2) plenty of republicans care about human rights. i can't believe i even have to say this. religious people practice all kinds of charity from famine relief to building houses for victims of floods and tornado to food banks and soup kitchens. these are the kind of people that often vote republican. 3) every american …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 08:03 AM
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that's equity. people can still have unearned advantages (privileges) in a society based on equality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 07:21 AM
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as opposed to the dems? puh-lease. "the right" is a very big tent, most of which does not care about men, but some of which does. the same thing can be said about the left, or society in general.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 07:15 AM
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The mass firing of federal employees terrible, but not a gendered issue Attacking Benefits such as SNAP terrible, but not a gendered issue Giving infinite power to ICE leading to several illegal deportations of males did the republicans give them this power or just increase their budget? Bypassing the Judicial System terrible, but not a gendered issue Deportation of Legal Residents and Citizens: terrible but not a gendered issue The call to be tough on crime not a gendered issue (unfair treatmen…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 07:03 AM
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trump is an authoritarian populist. fascists hate free markets, for starters i guess if you broaden the definition of fascist enough trump could qualify, but there's a whole lot of fascism baked into the USA before he ever got there. making school children pledge allegiance to the flag every day seems pretty fascist to me, as a Canadian. also: trump is not the republican party and i think many of them would love to see him go.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 06:48 AM
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no democrat or republican administration has ever done or even suggested doing anything that could help males in education i hate trump, but was glad he rescinded obama's title ix "dear colleagues" guidelines that led to kangaroo courts depriving people (mostly men) from fair hearings on campus.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 06:34 AM
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institutions such as academia oh absolutely. i see that more as a religion than an agenda though. those things can overlap (cough islamic extremism cough) but they are ultimately not the same thing. relatedly - it's why ex-feminists like warren farrell are treated more like heretics or apostates than people with opposing views to be debated.
/r/MensRights18/07/26 03:33 AM
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i dont think there's "an agenda" so much as a common social narrative about reality that is sometimes incorrect, and that one of the things it's often incorrect about is how gender-based oppresion/bias functions. evidence of the narrative being incorrect is extremely uncomfortable for people and so they push it away and reframe things internally. most people are not enacting some plan, it's just that their individual behavior, in aggregate, produces outcomes that look like an agenda. humans are …
/r/MensRights17/07/26 10:32 AM
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the ultimate goal of UK and Ireland education systems Australia has entered the chat
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 07:47 PM
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"men" is not a catagory that you can "punch up" against though, that would be "elites" or "politicians" or "ceos" if anything. "men" includes someone who lost his legs fighting for his country, or someone who is living homeless in the gutter. attacking those people is not punching up, yet that is exactly what you are doing if you attack "men".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 07:43 PM
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true things can be taboo. you are getting down-votes because you are breaking a social norm, not necessarily because you are factually wrong. that said, there's a lot of context to what you are talking about. it's easier to legislate things and lead if your gender is framed/coded as the "leader gender" while others are incentivized against or legally prevented from voting/leading. but yes, men have in aggregate done terrible and wonderful things. if we're going to talk about the terrible things …
/r/MensRights30/06/26 06:11 AM
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here's something i repeat so often it's my own personal copypasta: In our society, women are seen as possessing hypoagency. This means that people think they are less capable then they really are. This causes them many problems in life that men don't face. However, those seen as less able are also seen as more deserving of help and assistance. Because women are falsely seen as weak, they are easily seen as victims. Conversely: men are seen as possessing hyperagency. This means that people think …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 03:52 AM
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"Teenage boys in UK ‘stuck’ reading primary-level books while girls’ tastes expand" i mean.. so what? what a shocker. boys and girls have different interests. next they'll publish a startling expose on the fact that more girls end up in nursing while more boys grow up to be engineers. a gender swapped headline would be: "Teenage girls 'stuck' in a handful of social media apps while boys use a wider variety of online communities" or "Teenage girls 'stuck' playing a narrow range of video games whi…
/r/MensRights27/06/26 02:35 AM
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misandry just hurts your feelings. male disposability is a subset of misandry and kills 10's of thousands of homeless men in the usa alone every year. add to that combat deaths from unwilling combatants (ukraine style) and expand the homeless deaths globally and it's millions of people every year. all of those people would still be alive if they were women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/26 08:51 PM
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Sees person being violent to spouse... ...assumes it was a man.
/r/MensRights25/06/26 06:36 PM
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Much of the available evidence suggests that young men remain more socially liberal than previous generations, but young women have shifted even further left, producing a much larger ideological gender gap between men and women than existed among earlier generations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/26 06:21 PM
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fair. thank-you for the response.
/r/MensRights24/06/26 01:59 AM
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nor does it equate to the opposite. what's your point?
/r/MensRights24/06/26 12:57 AM
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agreed. it's important for this sub to call out obvious bullshit when someone posts it. the fact that OP thinks women lack respect for step fathers says more about OP than it does about women.
/r/MensRights24/06/26 12:54 AM
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When you become a Step Father the woman automatically loses respect for you the minute you accept the role because you are raising another man's child. this is simply not true. what a crazy over the top generalization. everything you framed as "necessary and inevitable" never happened in my family. both step dads and step kids have plently of beneficial outcomes from thier relationships.
/r/MensRights24/06/26 12:53 AM
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i actually complained to the BBC: (complaint made with chatbot assistance after me asking it to stress test my complaints regarding the story) I wish to complain about "Woman left traumatised by swinging says website 'facilitated abuse.'" My concern is not that the BBC reported Ruth O'Grady's allegations, but that the article's framing treats those allegations as established fact without adequate evidentiary support. The article encourages readers to understand Ruth's experiences as coercive abu…
/r/MensRights16/06/26 10:56 PM
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Not too sure what it has to do with men's rights this article is an example of a mainstream publicly-funded news agency doubling down on the myths of female hypoagency and male hyperagency. in our society, women are seen as possessing hypoagency. This means that people think they are less capable then they really are. This causes them many problems in life that men don't face. However, those seen as less able are also seen as more deserving of help and assistance. Because women are falsely seen …
/r/MensRights16/06/26 10:06 PM
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he's been both a democrat and an independent, but never not a liberal. the point stands.
/r/MensRights15/06/26 09:50 PM
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The precedent for a kleptocratic rapist-in-chief was set much earlier than Trump. The Clintons accepted bribes, raped women, and falsely proclaimed elections stolen more discreetly, sure, but don't act like these are new things. Trump is a symptom of the problem, not the cause of it. The real point of failure in the USA is that the founding fathers utterly failed to foresee that wealth from within can be just as antithetical to a healthy democracy as royal tyranny from above.
/r/MensRights12/06/26 03:35 PM
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You're getting downvotes because what you just said is demonstrably incorrect. Bernie Sanders is both a democrat and a liberal and is definitely not right wing. so to for: Elizabeth Warren AOC Noam Chomsky John Rawls Franklin Roosevelt Tommy Douglas etc.
/r/MensRights12/06/26 03:30 PM
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you couldn't teach about homosexuality to children until 4th grade but there was no prohibition on being gay and discussing your husband, for example. in short - no formal lessons on the subject until 4th grade. informal discussion not prohibited at any grade.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/26 01:32 PM
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i think patriarchy is about who is allowed to have power, not who actually does, and that the mere existence of gender roles does not a patriarchy make. most online people involved in patriarchy discussions don't actually know what patriarchy is and use a term/definition that is so watered down that literally every country on the planet right now is a patriarchy, including norway, canada, saudi arabia and iran. if that's the new definition then describing canada as a patriarchy tells us nothing …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 11:58 PM
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i find that feminists are among the strongest proponents of "Men have agency and act / Women lack agency and are acted upon" gender myths.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 11:50 PM
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If you want to see a progressive american do mental gymnastics ask them the following... when it comes to the democratic party: if the cost of including men on their "who we serve" page was trivial, why were men not included? https://archive.is/9rRI2 https://web.archive.org/web/20241108090300/https://democrats.org/who-we-are/who-we-serve/ it's either A) incompetence or B) there is actually a non-trivial cost involved in stating that men face systemic problems that need systemic solutions. or C) …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 11:33 PM
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i was banned from r /comics for commenting that a comic about florida's "don't say gay" law was factually incorrect and that gay teachers could absolutely talk about being gay in their personal lives without legal repercussions. which was true. most people in that thread did not actually understand what the law was (and wasn't) but were 100% unaware of their ignorance and were thus confidently incorrect.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 11:15 PM
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I wonder if a lot of misandry is just from women who have near impossible moral standards. for other people. Karla Kim absolutely fails to question of the whether the only thing keeping her from doing something unethical like stealing are the consequences she would face for doing so. if so this makes her "evil" according to her own logic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/26 10:41 AM
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it's worse than that. because the dominant social narrative is "men and boys act, women and girls are acted upon", when a girl does poorly the system is blamed but when a boy does poorly the boy is blamed. people psychologically resist putting men and boys into the category of "acted upon". this report is great but I expect it will receive little coverage and quickly be memory-holed. further info
/r/MensRights12/05/26 05:19 PM
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i don't know what a girlboss is, i just see a bigot flailing about to justify their hatred.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/26 12:19 PM
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people should report this as hatred because it is hatred.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/26 12:15 PM
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the video starts with some real stats and real problems, but then jumps straight to "most men are secretly evil." the biggest issue is the whole "tier 3" thing where she basically argues average men only behave because they're scared of consequences or don't have enough power to get away with bad behavior. but why wouldn't that logic apply to women too? or honestly to humans in general? laws and social pressure exist because people in general behave worse when there are no consequences. that doe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/26 11:53 AM
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"i think we should stop telling new fathers congratulations on your new baby! and start telling new mothers remember not to kill your baby today!. i think that such a mantra needs to be brought in to stigmatize the normalized violence against babies. it it not the babies responsibility to not die. it is mostly the responsibility of the people killing them." (the vast majority of infanticide is perpetrated by women)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/26 08:23 PM
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When men enforce harmful masculine norms, it is labeled by feminists as toxic masculinity and framed as something men originate and must fix. When women enforce harmful feminine norms, it is labeled by feminists as internalized misogyny and framed as something imposed on them by outside forces. If the framework were consistent, at least some of what we call toxic masculinity would be framed as "internalized misandry", or just called out loud as plain ol' misandry. The issue is not semantics. It …
/r/MensRights11/05/26 08:15 PM
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supporting some "thing" 99 times out of 100 doesn't make you anti-"thing" because one time you disagree. this is one of my biggest problems with progressiveness these days. the extreme left demands ideological conformity as if that has always been the norm. it hasn't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/26 08:25 PM
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my point is that everything you just mentioned is voluntary whereas getting called an incel = being accused of being involuntrarily celebrate. many people who choose mtgw are the opposite of an incel.
/r/MensRights08/05/26 07:45 AM
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the equivalent scenario to what you are referring to in present-day ukranian terms would be if the ukrainians captured russian women and forced them to be sex slaves. that is not what is happening. abusing the people you conquer, while horrific, is a categorically different thing than kidnapping your own citizens and sending them off to die. one is universally condemned as a warcrime, the other has majority support and is enshrined in law. the point is that the contents of the video we are talki…
/r/MensRights25/04/26 08:48 PM
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you’re shifting the argument no one is denying that russia will amplify this kind of footage for propaganda. that’s obvious. every country does that with their enemy’s worst moments but that doesn’t actually address the point. either the behavior happened or it didn’t. if it did, then saying “russia is reposting it” doesn’t change anything about what’s being shown the question is whether forcibly grabbing people off the street to send them to fight is acceptable or not. who shares the video onli…
/r/MensRights25/04/26 03:57 PM
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Male draft is NOT EQUAL to having KZ collecting their daily quota by shoving pedestrians into a van. How hard that is to understand??? the u.s. did this during vietnam. it just looked more bureaucratic than physical. you got a letter instead of a van, but the reality was still "go or face penalties". that is functionally equal to what is happening in europe right now. the core mechanism is young men being compelled by the state to risk or sacrifice their lives for the perceived good of everyone …
/r/MensRights25/04/26 03:52 PM
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you're arguing against a claim no one here is actually making nobody is saying all men everywhere are treated like ukrainian men. the sarcasm is pointing at something narrower: when things get extreme, the burdens and the lack of choice fall disproportionately on men people outside ukraine can't directly change it. but that doesn’t stop people from pointing out patterns. feminists do this all the time when talking about how women are treated in other countries the point isn’t that this applies e…
/r/MensRights25/04/26 03:32 PM
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i don't think russia filmed that abduction, friend. it's not russia "making them look bad" their behaviour is bad and happened to be filmed. the behaviour would still be bad even if the video did not exist.
/r/MensRights25/04/26 06:14 AM
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what they are talking about never happened. imperial japan did not treat their own women the way that ukraine is treating the young man in the video.
/r/MensRights25/04/26 06:09 AM
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imperial japan did absolutely not drag japanese women off to die on the front lines of combat. the equivalent scenario to what you are referring to in present-day ukranian terms would be if the ukrainians captured russian women and forced them to be sex slaves. that is obviously not happening, so you you've added nothing to this conversation.
/r/MensRights25/04/26 06:06 AM
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nobody is saying USA men are as oppressed as Ukrainian men are, friend. but (like feminists) MRAs care about our brothers being oppressed in other countries. do you think it's okay for american women to point out how women are oppressed outside of the usa? if so, then that applies to men as well. are you saying we should just shut up and accept thow these men are being treated? if not, what exactly are you saying?
/r/MensRights25/04/26 05:52 AM
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the right wing would NOT have been able to capture young men like it has over the past 15 years if lefist-feminism wasn't as hateful as it is. the left can't even acknowledge that men have serious gender-specific problems. i believe they know of the existence of these things, but they also know it's too politically costly to cater to men. think about that for a second - there is so much misandry baked into the democratic party that they are afraid of appearing sympatetic to men. who is left out …
/r/MensRights23/04/26 03:42 PM
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For Feminists a that’s no exaggeration, dating a man is a “sin”, being pregnant “a major sin”, being married “a class traitor”. That feels like a pretty clear straw man. You’re taking the most extreme fringe takes and presenting them as "what feminists believe." Most feminist discussion, even on Reddit, is not "dating men is a sin" or "pregnancy is a sin." It is usually about things like unequal childcare, the cost of raising kids, or how family life actually works in practice. You can disagree …
/r/MensRights19/04/26 03:20 PM
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this is the article on the topic by the same people: https://web.archive.org/web/20260415110525/https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/polling/2026/04/revealed-the-new-radicalism-among-young-women https://web.archive.org/web/20260415102902/https://www.newstatesman.com/cover-story/2026/04/meet-the-angry-young-women-why-young-women-dont-want-to-date-me
/r/MensRights15/04/26 07:26 PM
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the stats in that clip suggest that there's at least as many women being radicalized online by the female equivalent to "the manosphere" as men - it's just not framed as harmful when it happens to girls and women (as opposed to boys or men) because of society's gender myths/social norms about agency.
/r/MensRights15/04/26 07:21 PM
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those stats suggest that there's at least as many women being radicalized online by the female equivalent to "the manosphere" - it's just not framed as harmful when it happens to girls and women (as opposed to boys or men) because of society's gender myths/social norms about agency.
/r/MensRights15/04/26 07:18 PM
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unfortunately, female hypergamy (while not universal) is so common that most women who make 120-150 are trying to "date up" from that. it's awesome that you found some exceptions, or have non-financial status to compensate for earning less than the women you date.
/r/MensRights15/04/26 07:15 PM
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there's nothing involuntary about MGTW. that's one of the reasons it's hated.
/r/MensRights15/04/26 07:11 PM
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that whole thread was heart breaking
/r/MensRights07/04/26 08:44 PM
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don't panic. fake news. look for other legit outlets reporting this and you will find none. if this were literally true: millions of german men affected + travel restrictions across EU borders + enforcement at airports. you would see widespread coverage (BBC, Reuters, AP, etc.) as well as public guidance and backlash in germany. you don’t. so at best this article has a kernel of truth but the claims being extrapolated here are being wildly exaggerated.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/26 03:00 PM
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germany is not a small baltic country though. the original claim being countered here is Most people estimate, that Putin will give it (invading germany) a try in three to four years.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/26 02:59 PM
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it's not a real news story. try and find another legit source. the fact that reuters etc aren't covering this is sus as hell.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/26 02:57 PM
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this isn’t actually what’s happening. the story is misleading. there’s no active rule where men need permission to leave germany right now. the article is taking a niche legal or administrative change tied to potential conscription and presenting it like a blanket travel restriction. if that were real, it wouldn’t be buried in a single outlet. it would be major international news with obvious enforcement and you’d see actual enforcement at airports. at most, what’s being discussed is tracking or…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/26 02:55 PM
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i can't. i don't think the law actually criminalizes interruptions. that's what the headline claims the law will cause, but that's not what the law actually says.
/r/MensRights28/03/26 01:16 PM
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i mean i'm not an expert in brazilian law but probably something like the following: exclusion: a restaurant owner refuses to serve women, or tells staff not to hire women because "they don’t belong here" incitement: someone publicly encourages others to exclude women from certain jobs or spaces, framing them as inferior or unfit. denial of rights: or a workplace systematically blocks women from speaking, participating, or advancing because they are women.
/r/MensRights28/03/26 12:50 PM
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what makes it a bad law is that it's not gender-blind. the real headline should be: third world country perpetuates benevolent sexism with new law, while ignoring symmetric cases of misandry.
/r/MensRights28/03/26 12:39 PM
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who knows? set a "remind me" for five years from now then google to see if anyone has actually been imprisoned for interupting a woman. i'm betting "no".
/r/MensRights28/03/26 12:36 PM
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i mean... it's still sexist as hell not to include men as a protected group.
/r/MensRights28/03/26 11:46 AM
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it's also not true. what brazil actually criminalized here is discrimination and incitement against a protected group, not ordinary rude behavior: you have to be promoting or carrying out discrimination. in brazil for something to be criminal, it generally needs clear discriminatory intent or effect, targeting a group, and behavior that actually excludes, humiliates, or incites others. a one-off interruption doesn’t come close. criminal proesecution is typically reserved for clear cases of exclu…
/r/MensRights28/03/26 11:08 AM
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That zionist shit sounds like crazy conspiracy talk friend.
/r/MensRights27/03/26 06:02 PM
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Australia seems like a cesspool when it comes to gender rights.
/r/MensRights27/03/26 12:12 PM
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all kinds of people, women included. the fact that you have to ask this...
/r/MensRights27/03/26 10:52 AM
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This is very telling: The amount of research done on online misogyny (pink) vs online misandry (blue) It's almost like people don't care about men like they do about women. ie. male disposability in action.
/r/MensRights26/03/26 10:59 AM
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it's also that men work more hours every week than women do - you're going to earn more if you work more. it's also that men do the vast majority of jobs that pay a premium for hazardous or socially isolating work. it's infuriating to me that society perpetuates social norms where men are judged on being good providers, incentivizes them to maximize their earnings, and then complains when they do just that.
/r/MensRights25/03/26 10:39 AM
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the vast majority of socially isolating jobs are also done by men (think worker at an arctic oilfield)
/r/MensRights25/03/26 10:34 AM
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Where i live (Canada) your average full-time man works 38.1 hours per week and your average full time woman works 33.2 hours a week. In my union, overtime pay starts at 35 hours a week, meaning any hours worked after 35 are paid at 1.5 times the normal hourly rate. This means that your average full-time male works overtime hours each week, every week, while your average full-time women works overtime never. Because of that, even if men and women are paid exactly the same, the men will earn more …
/r/MensRights25/03/26 10:07 AM
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Fucking snopes says the claim is "true" because the UN also said the same thing. No other reason given. UN Women is one of the most vocally misandrist mainstream orgs out there. Celebrates International womens day but on international men's day celebrates "toilet day" instead. I wish i was joking.
/r/MensRights24/03/26 09:44 PM
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It's called gamma bias
/r/MensRights15/02/26 08:17 PM
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When you see a corporation engaging in misandry, the way to respond is to contact the corporation, object to the treatment, and tell them you’ll take your business elsewhere if they keep doing it. Don’t keep giving money to misandrists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys_are_stupid,_throw_rocks_at_them!_controversy
/r/MensRights13/02/26 08:35 PM
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I've probably hurt several men by looking at them/trying assess whats up if they were walking behind me. I do this to. It's a perfectly human thing to do. The moral imperative is not to be fearless but to act proportionally and without presuming intent. So what's up? Do you think that the sexism in our society benefits women more than men? Do you think that's always been the case? How do you think we should go about fixing it? I think we actually agree more than we disagree. I also think of thin…
/r/MensRights03/01/26 06:12 AM
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I think the question says more about whether that woman assumes a worst-case scenario is a likely scenario. i think the problem is that women who answer "bear" assume your average man is the worst case scenario. a little gender-swap thought experiment to test the theory. this is not a "gotcha" question. What do you think most women would say if you were to ask them "who would you rather leave your baby with alone in the woods - a bear or a woman?" The worst case with the bear is the same as you …
/r/MensRights03/01/26 04:22 AM
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"patriarchy" means many things and nothing depending on the context. this is why it is so seldom defined when discussed.
/r/MensRights14/12/25 11:20 PM
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There hasn’t been a draft in a significant period of time in most countries. That was not forced, that’s who they are. The absence of a current draft doesn’t erase a century of selective male sacrifice, and it doesn’t magically convert structural pressure into pure free will. My father watched most of his high-school friends die in Vietnam. They didn’t volunteer because they were excited to kill other humans. They didn't volunteer at all. They went because refusing meant prison, exile, or perman…
/r/MensRights14/12/25 11:14 PM
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And who did that? The patriarchy. “The patriarchy” is doing a lot of laundering here. Men didn’t ‘oppress themselves’, elites (both male and female) extracted labor and lives from ordinary men and women alike. Most boys were never authors of that system; they were its fuel. Meanwhile some women were authors of that system. You can tell because we have named entire ages after them. Using that to justify treating boys today as default moral hazards - while girls are treated as morally complete - i…
/r/MensRights14/12/25 11:00 PM
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All of u.s history is about respecting boys my guy History didn’t teach boys they mattered, it taught them they were expendable. Confusing expendability with respect is exactly why these programs fail. Teaching only boys “respect” implies girls have no agency and boys are uniquely defective. Women’s victimization is real. But prevention fails when you treat half the population as moral patients and the other half as moral problems. Your use of "my guy" is itself disrespectful. Perhaps you could …
/r/MensRights14/12/25 10:47 PM
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is that what is happening, or is only one gender prioritized when it comes to teaching respect? also you need to define patriarchy before you can make blanket statements about whether it exists in society or not. people who default claim patriarchy exists without explaining what they mean are part of the gender problems, not part of the gender solutions.
/r/MensRights14/12/25 10:40 PM
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So you agree that it is a subset of biology, -which we know- you can’t prove the male only draft is not simply an extension of male disposability i'm saying male-only draft is due to men being considered the disposable sex. i'm saying men being considered the disposable sex is an example of misandry. it seems like you are saying: "If male disposability has any biological component, then societal examples of male disposability can’t be misandry." this isn't true though. biological patterns don’t …
/r/MensRights27/11/25 10:06 PM
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but your "biological meaning" offers no moral descriptions or prescriptions. it's irrelevant to the topic at hand. it's a statistic, like "water freezes at zero celsius". anyways... Isn’t male disposability a subset of biology? that's all beside the point: male disposability can be a subset of more than one set, and the fact that it's a subset of biology doesn't negate that fact that it is also a subset of misandry.
/r/MensRights27/11/25 05:54 AM
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Isn’t male disposability a subset of biology? I mean slightly more men are born than women explicitly because men are meant to be disposed of "meant" by whom? biology creates statistical patterns, not meaning. interpreting those patterns as ‘men are supposed to be disposable’ is a value judgment not a factual assessment.
/r/MensRights27/11/25 04:39 AM
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"The killing came during what was said to be one of the first unprotected visits she’d had with her son after years of supervised contact following the couple’s 2017 separation."
/r/MensRights17/11/25 01:18 PM
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your average feminist wants all the benefits of the patriarchy (engagement rings, default child custody etc) without any of the bad stuff, just as she wants women to have half of all the male-coded good stuff in society (high status jobs, high earnings) without them assuming half of all the male-coded bad stuff (homelessness, low status jobs). to over-simplify: if you only seek to equalize ceo's and politicians without endeavoring to equalize garbagemen and bricklayers you are effectively a supr…
/r/MensRights11/11/25 10:19 PM
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you can love someone without thinking they are wonderful, and think someone is wonderful without loving them. the effect you speak of is real (and probably speaks to disparities in sentencing, homeless rates, etc) but has nothing to do with men being loved.
/r/MensRights24/10/25 12:41 PM
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my parents and best friends love me unconditionally, as have many women over the years.
/r/MensRights24/10/25 12:39 PM
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centrist dad https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-41413937
/r/MensRights23/10/25 10:03 PM
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not all female celebrities have chips on their shoulders? if you're asking "why do some..." the answer is "because humans have flaws". if you're asking "why do all..." the answer is that it's the laws of probability fucking with you, because your random sampling is producing a non-representative outcome.
/r/MensRights18/10/25 03:13 PM
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Not everyone who identifies with the male gender identity is a man. for example: A boy identifies with the male gender identity but is not a man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/25 02:37 PM
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jesus. i didn't realize things were so unbelievably hypocritically sexist there. this is a huge opportunity for a political party to stand up for men. i hope someone takes advantage of this madness by pointing out the facts loudly and publicly. seems like a good way to get a lot of votes.
/r/MensRights08/10/25 11:37 PM
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i think it might be tied with "women can leave Ukraine at will. men must stay to be press-ganged", but it's pretty close and you might be right.
/r/MensRights08/10/25 11:32 PM
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i had a chat with an AI about this very thing
/r/MensRights06/08/25 10:09 PM
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are you seriously asking why people don't start their own uber app? what do you think it would cost in terms of time and money just to attempt that? do you not see any barriers your average person might face, or are they as obvious to you as the rest of us and you are just trolling for the sake of trolling? are you trying to engage in conversation here, or just attempting to shut it down dismissively?
/r/MensRights23/07/25 07:12 PM
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that sounds like a chicken and egg thing more than a causal relationship. do the right win elections because the overton window is shifting, or does the overton window shift when the right wins an election? i would say the overton window shifting is what allows the right to win in the first place.
/r/MensRights06/07/25 03:27 PM
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weak analogy, but it's more like: this vacuum cleaner is designed by people who can't tell what is dirt and what is not. whenever i need a thorough cleaning it misses some kinds of dirt.
/r/MensRights06/07/25 03:24 PM
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The people and companies that control LLM AI possess incredible editorial power over it's output. What the AI will say, what ideas they present and which they suppress, what they say is right or wrong. This is addressed by the AI itself under the "guardrails" heading: "Guardrails: To prevent harm, I’m guided by alignment strategies that prioritize not offending or retraumatizing users. In current cultural context, this often translates to avoiding narratives that challenge female victimhood or s…
/r/MensRights06/07/25 03:20 PM
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Look up who compromised bidens cabinet,is all or majority of leadership of Vanguard i just did and i still do not understand at all what you are saying about physical features or last names. can you please state in plain english what you are on about?
/r/MensRights05/07/25 09:59 PM
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it's interesting that the AI default thinks that deviating from a women = victims / men = perpetrators narrative results in social and professional punishment.
/r/MensRights05/07/25 09:49 PM
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it honestly doesn't matter who the founders are and who owns the stock. as long as AI is made by people / trained on stuff that supports the mainstream narrative and/or belittles men's rights and the philosophy supporting men rights then AI is going to be biased against men. slowly but surely, as the overton window shifts and people start to recognize that men are in fact systemically discriminated against, AI will change to conform to the new social norm. the takeaway is that it's important tha…
/r/MensRights05/07/25 09:39 PM
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the point is that the song is not inherently man-hating. it is clearly about a specific person. if your looking to be offended i can see the pigs upsetting you, but the misandry just isn't there in the song itself. contrary to OP's title, the song is not man-hating.
/r/MensRights04/07/25 04:57 PM
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that's the video, not the song. the video for gold-digger shows a series of slutty looking women, so the comparison still holds. however, the videos and the songs are not the same thing. the video is clearly an homage to zany comedies. pigs in a hot tub are one of those things. if it wasn't for that 1 second shot of the chillin pigs in the video there would be nothing misandrist about the video or the song. if your looking to be offended i can see the pigs upsetting you, but the misandry just is…
/r/MensRights04/07/25 03:24 AM
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she's not targeting a group of people though. the song is very clearly about a specific person. yes that person is a gender stereotype, but that puts this song more in line with gold-digger than i hate boys
/r/MensRights04/07/25 12:50 AM
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This article suggests that the Democrats have a "messaging issue" and not a "we don't care about our constituents but we want their votes issue" Who is missing from this list?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/25 06:56 PM
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"I'll respect your pronouns, but you're not a woman... Wait, what do you mean I'm transphobic?!" exactly. thinking you're a woman doesn't make you a woman anymore than thinking you're a cat makes you a cat. if you want me to address you as "pickles" and buy you cat treats to eat i will, but me continuing to think you're a human after you've told me you are a cat doesn't make me cat-phobic. you can't change the definition of a word from "an adult female human" to something else entirely and autoc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/25 09:43 PM
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you said I don't believe that someone can just come out as trans and immediately walk into a women's room while they still have a crew cut, beard, men's jeans, etc. if you think they are a woman, why can't they walk into a women's room?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/25 08:27 AM
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Brains look different for males and females, and studies have shown that trans people have brain structures and activity that most closely resembles the gender that they claim to be. i urge you to run "can you tell someone's gender by their brain" through the search engine of your choice, because this thing you are saying is the gospel truth... ain't. but don't take it from me. google that shit. i did. I'm trying to compromise when nobody else fucking will. i respect that. however: it is absolut…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/25 05:33 AM
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good point. how are you going to install a peeing trough in a multi-user unisex bathroom without gender segregating part of that bathroom?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/25 03:02 AM
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you are assuming there is enough physical space for the number of unisex bathrooms required. there might not be. super bowls often have a capacity of 70,000+ seats, but temporary seating can increase that. the general consensus is one unisex bathroom for 60 people for everyday use. during half-time you might need two or three times as many bathrooms to meet increased demand. so (for 70,000 people) 1167 bathrooms are needed for everyday non-peak use, and 2918 bathrooms (2.5x) would be needed at h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/25 02:41 AM
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Do you consider intersex people to be neither men nor women, no matter how they identify and how they have lived? depends on what you mean by "intersex". if you are referring to the 0.018% of the population that are neither xx nor xy, then yes. those people are neither men nor women to me. And if somebody's hormone composition is entirely female and they don't have a male reproductive system or male genitals, they are not "biologically male." incorrect. if they are xy, they are biologically male…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/25 02:19 AM
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you asked for real reasons why sex-based spaces exist. i listed four reasons that people might create sex-based spaces. apologies if i was too broad. here are some specific examples: religious - some religions treat the sexes differently. some muslims have female-only mosques for example. politics - some people argue that their freedom of association means that they can create sex-segregated spaces. morality - some people think that it's immodest for both sexes to share a change-room. practicali…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/25 01:36 AM
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We’re assigned male at birth all my friends knew the sex of their children before they were born. the sex of their children was not "assigned at birth" is was "discovered during pregnancy".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/25 01:19 AM
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Let me ask you this. Is a trans woman who has been on estrogen for years, who has breasts, soft features, and a vagina really a "biological male" to you? Because one of the biggest problems with these arguments is that people act like trans people don't, y'know, transition. yes. let me ask you this: can someone transition by changing nothing about themselves other than a self-applied label? because not all women have breasts, soft features, wear dresses, etc. one of the biggest problems with you…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/25 01:15 AM
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religion - faith exists independent of rationality politics - freedoms to do x. freedom from y. morality - concepts of right and wrong can exist outside of politics, science, and religion practicality - gendered solutions to existing problems may be more practical than gender-neutral solutions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/25 01:01 AM
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society uses gender-gates as a tool for distributing justice. for example, some policy makers think there should be more women studying physics, so they create a women-only scholarship to incentivize women to study physics. men are prevented from accessing this benefit because there is not a deficit of men in physics. this is what i call a gender-gate. one gender has access; one gender is barred. trans people - through no fault of their own - are able to bypass the intended purpose of our societ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/25 12:52 AM
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objectivity. rationality. my definition of woman is "an adult human female". if you have a viable feelings-based definition, i'd love to hear it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 12:49 PM
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If you allow three sexes then you're changing the hypotheses -- no wonder my statement becomes invalid! Disagree, but fine. Let the 0.018% of people who are neither xx nor xy choose whether they want to legally be a man or a woman. everyone else is assigned according to xx or xy. if 0.018 percent of the population choose a legal gender when they turn 18 (or whatever, as long as they choose one or the other) the goals that we strive for when we create gender-gates will not be compromised. people …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 12:30 AM
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intersex people test as "intersex" the same way as XY people test as male and XX people test as female. you absolutely can have a law that says there are 3 genders. (male, female, and intersex) and have such a law apply to gender-gates. the percentage of people who are neither xx nor xy is 0.018% so if we (as a society) say "it is just and fair that female prisoners are housed separately than male prisoners" and put all xx people in one kind of prison and xy people in a different kind of prison,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/25 11:44 PM
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And such a definition cannot be of a scientific nature. Why not?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/25 10:57 PM
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what I consider most likely, they are only effective for some instances of social justice. if we're going to have even a single instance of a gender-gate, then we need to have a legal definition of "man" and "woman" that is constant, universal, and not easily changed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/25 10:45 PM
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What are trans people allowed or not allowed to do based on this? society uses gender-gates as a method of distributing social justice. the real question is: what is the point of a gender-gate if anyone can bypass it at any time by uttering a non-falsifiable statement?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/25 10:22 PM
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If we're going to have things like: 1) gender-based societal obligations (conscription, the draft) 2) gender-based pricing on societally mandated purchases (like auto insurance) 3) gender-based societal institutions (women-only prisons, women-only shelters) 4) societally accepted gender-based discrimination (hiring quotas for women) then we are going to have to have a legal definition of "man" and "woman" that is constant, universal, and not easily changed. if you want to say that anyone should …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/25 08:26 PM
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quick example - they endorse international womens day while denying international mens day exists. they are also the source behind the hillary clinton "women are the true victims of war because they have to look after the survivors" quote (paraphrased). if you look up the quote in snopes, snopes says what hillary said was true because the UN also said it. no other reason. guess that makes it true then. thanks UN! and thank you snopes!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/25 03:31 AM
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The mentality of a feminist personally, i don't see them as monolithic. some of them actually believe in gender equality and just haven't thought things through enough to see that (for example) the problems that come with people seeing your gender as weak are matched by the problems that come when people never see your gender as weak.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/25 03:12 AM
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The UN is massively misandrist with zero self-awareness of this fact. If men's rights proceed the way women rights have, in 30 or 40 years people are going to look back at what the UN is doing today the way we look back at the legislators who fought against women's suffrage.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/25 09:49 PM
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i think you are misunderstanding the point of snopes. your point seems to be that snopes doesn't assess the truth value of the contents of people's speech, only the truth value of whether they said it or not. that seems demonstrably false to me. here are some examples of snopes assessing whether or not what people said is true: They don't discuss whether or not she said it, they discuss whether or not what she said was true. They don't discuss whether or not someone spread the rumour, they discu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/25 09:36 PM
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That's not what Snopes does. They evaluate whether or not someone said something or whether or not something actually happened. If all that really mattered is whether or not hillary said it, why does the relatively short article on the subject by snopes contain this: "While some might argue that Clinton was inaccurate in labeling women as the "primary victims of war" (since the majority of military members are male), a resolution adopted by the United Nation Security Council in 2000 arrived at a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/25 04:22 AM
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i think the snopes conclusion is that the things that hillary said were true because the UN also said it was true. other than the UN "trust me bro" source there is very little reason to believe that the primary victims of war are women. to the rest of us non-UN believers it seems pretty obvious that men are the primary victims of war.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 12:51 AM
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I would say that the national organization for woman (NOW) - the most powerful feminist org in the world - is demonstrably misandrist. quick example - when feminist cassie jaye was looking to do a movie about the mens rights movement NOW offered her funding, then withdrew the offer when she made it clear that the film was going to be balanced and that it would not be a hit piece. you can find footage of this in the documentary she made. NOW also seems to fight for whatever is best for women, not…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 08:00 PM
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You can tell who "set the system up" because we name entire ages and eras after them. Elizabeth and Edward and Victoria created and perpetuated "the system" to benefit people like Elizabeth, Edward, and Victoria.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/25 01:34 AM
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"The review found girls were often vulnerable and suffering from complex mental and physical problems, which meant that while they made up just 2 per cent of under-18s in youth custody, they accounted for more than half of self-harm incidents." I have long suspected that boys and girls self-harm using different methods, but there is little research on this. I suspect that males self-harm using financial and substance abuse methods in the exact same way that females use cutting and scarring to se…
/r/MensRights05/03/25 09:30 PM
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my biggest problem with the existing situation is the way we frame it differently depending on who is doing it. when a man perpetuates a harmful gender norm (like thinking he should supress his feelings because he is a man) we call it "toxic masculinity". when a woman perpetuates a harmful gender norm (like thinking she should do the cleaning because she is a woman) we call it "internalized misogyny". when it's a man the problem is framed as originating within the man. when it's a woman the prob…
/r/MensRights03/03/25 05:52 PM
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The problem is the idea of “toxic masculinity” is being used to shame men; and pin more unnecessary blame onto men as a whole. my biggest problem with the existing situation is the way we frame it differently depending on who is doing it. when a man perpetuates a harmful gender norm (like thinking he should supress his feelings because he is a man) we call it "toxic masculinity". when a woman perpetuates a harmful gender norm (like thinking she should do the cleaning because she is a woman) we c…
/r/MensRights03/03/25 05:50 PM
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Thats not transitioning that’s forging a single letter it's not forgery if it's true, and the only way it could not be true is if people can be wrong when they self-identify as a gender. are you saying someone can be wrong when they say they are a woman? Thats not transitioning there is no definition of transitioning, friend. i'm sure you have one. i'm just as sure 10 other people have completely different definitions of what transitioning to a woman means. in the article i linked to we have som…
/r/MensRights26/02/25 10:36 PM
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the stat without context is dubious. if women and men try to murder their spouses at equal rates, but men are x% stronger, faster, and more durable than women, then we would expect more women to be killed than men. as x increases so to would the percentage of women murdered (compared to men) the same for unintentional killings. the stronger gender is more likely to accidentally kill their spouse during a physical encounter. note this all can still apply even if men are violent less often than wo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/25 10:22 PM
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/change-gender-identification-insurance-alberta-1.4754416
/r/MensRights26/02/25 05:29 PM
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it's possible to have non-bullshit complaints about DEI. discussing those complaints is not "bitching and whining" if the complaints themselves are legitimate. i doubt you truly "got it" though.
/r/MensRights25/02/25 09:39 PM
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and you're spewing bullshit on reddit with no sources to back it up. way to go kiddo! you're definitely part of the solution.
/r/MensRights25/02/25 03:13 PM
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are you seriously asserting that nobody cheering the demise of DEI has a clue of what it "actually was"? That sounds like some real "no true scotsman" bullshit to me.
/r/MensRights24/02/25 07:23 AM
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i too fail to see any true scotsmen involved with the DEI cause right now.
/r/MensRights24/02/25 04:58 AM
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i too fail to see any real scotsmen.
/r/MensRights24/02/25 04:55 AM
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The same blatant dishonesty like "she resisted" is repeated in almost every sentence of this misandric spiel. That was my take as well. It's frustrating when it's MRAs saying that women have power and agency and feminists who deny it.
/r/MensRights18/02/25 09:00 PM
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I believe they are saying that when men's bodily autonomy is restricted the appeal is made based on other justifications but those other justifications are still moral in nature. any claim made asserting that women have their bodily autonomy restricted due to morality (in a way that men do not) is clearly ignoring / disregarding the moral-based restrictions on men's bodily autonomy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/25 04:03 PM
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it merely claims that when arguing about bodily autonomy for men vs women, people are more likely to draw on moral arguments with regards to women than with regards to men. people use morality to justify male circumcision and conscription though, as well as other things like earlier retirement ages for women and who is considered expendable. if the study focused on the moral arguments that people make to justify access to abortion but ignored the moral arguments that people make to justify male …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/25 03:40 PM
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The overwhelming majority of US politicians/political groups/nonprofits/etc never address men as a population group specifically. That’s despite the fact that men as a population group are very differentiated as taxpayers and workers. Who's missing from this list?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/25 02:57 PM
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If he's not stopped in Ukraine, he won't stop at Romania, Slovakia, Lithuania, Poland.... Putin just doesn't want NATO missiles adjacent to his country. He also doesn't want the CIA picking the ukranian president anymore than the USA wants the FIS RF arranging a coup in mexico. The usa complains about missiles in cuba, then engages in the exact same provocative behaviour. I'm not a fan of putin but I can understand him not wanting an adversy to have missiles, tank bases, and potentially nukes ri…
/r/MensRights16/01/25 12:17 AM
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Check out this misandry from the BBC / UN's Human Rights Office: 26% of the victims were women. 30% of the victims were men. Check out the headline and photo. I mean the article doesn't even mention the male victims but if you do the math you see that it's a worse stat then the women, who obviously were the focus of the news story (with the children). The photo caption says it all.
/r/MensRights16/01/25 12:03 AM
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Men do not want to align themselves with a movement whose worldview casts them as villains. What's missing from this list?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/25 10:18 PM
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I’ve been a member there, until I got permabanned for saying that women too perpetuate the toxic gender archetypes. No no no. You don't understand. When a man perpetuates a harmful gender norm it's "toxic masculinity". When a woman perpetuates a harmful gender norm it's "internalized misogyny". Totally different, see? (i see this type of framing as an extension of the hyperagency/hypoagency fallacy, where men self-generate toxicity while women are acted upon by society's external misogyny)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/25 03:14 AM
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feminists are agents of the patriarchy If all of the hot women on the planet decided that they were henceforth going to only fuck hobos, there would be a race to the bottom among men so swift that overnight there would be nobody but women left in leadership positions. Headlines: "Female senators passing legislation at will. Meanwhile, lengthy delays at bindle stores expected to persist as demand continues to surpass supply." I jest, but there is a more than a grain of truth in the concept that w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/12/24 07:32 PM
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In my experience, the people who complain about "the patriarchy" wrongly assume that men are in control and women are excluded from power. The way I frame discussions of patriarchy is that those who complain about men being over-represented among our leadership (politicians and ceo's) are conflating "declining an invitation" with "being banned from the event". There's nothing stopping a woman from running for office or starting a company, they just choose to do something else. When I talk to fem…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/12/24 07:15 PM
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Florida is a particularly interesting case study. I believe that it was about 10ish years ago (15?) that the national chapter of NOW (national organization for women) went to court to challenge the florida state chapter of NOW because (to oversimplify) the florida chapter was a bunch of rich divorcees who wanted to end alimony and the national NOW wanted to keep it going. It was a long time ago, but I think that's the gist of it.
/r/MensRights19/12/24 02:22 AM
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A subset of misandry is "people caring for men and boys significantly less than they care for women and girls." How many deaths are caused by misandry when you look at the root causes for "deaths of despair"? Countless. The fact that people say "misandry doesn't kill" is itself a harmful example of misandry.
/r/MensRights17/12/24 10:48 PM
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When it comes to western democracies - "patriarchy" is a conspiracy theory, and framing my society as one in which men (as a class) oppress women (as a class) is harmful to men, boys, and women living in actual patriarchies. Is there such a thing as a feminist who disputes living in a patriarchy? I doubt it. As long as feminists promote harmful ideologies I will be unlikely to support them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/24 12:47 PM
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The reddit admins know they are being hypocrites when it comes to enforcing the terms of service. I suspect that either it is too lucrative to shut down the blatant misandry, or those in charge are worse misandrists than the subs we complain about - they tolerate the misandry because they hate men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/24 09:54 PM
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They need to define "vulnerable". What exactly are women vunerable to that men are not? Gender based hate? Gender based discrimination? Gender based oppression? What exactly do they mean when they say that men are not a vulnerable group? For fuck's sake: saying that "men are not a vulnerable group" is an example of men being a vulnerable group.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/24 08:21 PM
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If you're a modern progressive who happens to be among the societal elite and you strongly care about promoting justice and fighting injustice then you eventually have to make a choice: You must either recognize that privilege/injustice is doled out along class lines or that it is done so along identity lines. If you decide that injustice flows mostly from class, then in order to fight injustice you must either raise everyone to your elite level, or lower your level to the societal average. Both…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/24 09:43 PM
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The existence of male primogeniture in no way precludes the existence of women who ruled with as much power and influence as any man of their day. What I deny as true is the fantasy OP is postulating wherein powerful women never existed, let alone women who beat or sexually assaulted their servants.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/24 04:12 AM
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an ardently moderate liberal isn’t going to give you the answer you’re looking for. the ask feminists subreddit defines "patriarchy" as "a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it." since women aren't excluded from power in western democracies, it's incorrect to call them patriarchies. now if you're going to say that r/askfeminists are wrong and that patriarchy is defined very differently than how they define it, then I'm going to accuse …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/10/24 08:16 PM
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Mostly, your reply does nothing at all but quibble over terminology This is because I believe that telling little boys that they live in an evil patriarchy designed by and for men is harmful. Terminology matters. It's the myth of "the patriarchy" that is used to frame sexism vs women as unacceptable "oppression" and sexism vs men as justified "punching up". But yeah, looks like we won't agree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/24 05:36 AM
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In our society, women are seen as possessing hypoagency. This means that people think they are less capable then they really are. This causes them many problems in life that men don't face. However, those seen as less able are also seen as more deserving of help and assistance. Because women are falsely seen as weak, they are easily seen as victims. Conversely: men are seen as possessing hyperagency. This means that people think they are more capable then they really are. This causes them many p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/24 05:02 AM
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No. In most places for most of history, the family - the defining unit of society - was headed by a man, a member of the class that labored, ruled, ministered and soldiered. The why of how patriarchy happened and how it still happens is complex None of the stuff in that first sentence is true anymore, if it ever was. (It's a little weird you think Dukes could (and did) beat and rape their servants, but Duchesses couldn't (and didn't), but that's a digression from my point) My point: If that's pa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/24 03:29 AM
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(feminists) think because the majority of world leaders and ceo’s are men therefore we live in a patriarchy, only when it's convenient. feminists love to play motte and bailey with the definition of "patriarchy" they only revert to the "head count" definition of patriarchy when you point out that women aren't excluded from power or oppressed (as a class) by men (as a class).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/24 03:14 AM
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Feminists define patriarchy as a society in which "men have all the power and and women are largely excluded from it". If you live in a western democracy, then this definition does not apply to your society. Western democracies are not patriarchies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/24 03:06 AM
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1 - Do you believe if yours views on men’s rights were achieved, women and men would be happier? yes 2 - Do you believe in feminism, and do you understand the different “types” of feminism? no, and maybe... your wording is vague. are you referring to the waves of feminism? (ie first wave = 1 type of feminism, second wave = 2nd type of feminism?) are you referring to radfems vs TERFS vs SWERFS? all those are different types of feminism. 3 - Do you feel immediately on edge when a girl posts/replie…
/r/MensRights13/10/24 05:37 AM
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When you adjust for all other variables, black people have worse outcomes from the justice system than white people, and men worse than women. The disparities are such that black women have better outcomes than white men and black men have it worse than both. https://repository.law.umich.edu/law_econ_current/53/ https://repository.law.umich.edu/law_econ_current/57/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/24 12:44 PM
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I think there are many issues at play Very true. i feel if society felt protective of drunk men the way it does for drunk women, there would be a lot more woman-on-man rape recognized. I've been too drunk to consent many times and none of the women who took me home consider themselves rapists. Nor do their friends. Yet these same women would consider me a rapist if I did that to their friend. Society has a hard time seeing men as victims, while simultaneously also has a hard time seeing women as…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/24 08:44 PM
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The vast majority of school shooters are men. The vast majority of people who run into burning buildings to save strangers are men. It seems like men are over represented on both ends of the hero-villain spectrum compared to women. This would not surprise me if true. Men are also over-represented at both ends of the IQ spectrum and the height spectrum. (Did you know the "shortest man ever" is shorter than the "shortest woman ever"? It's true.) It's almost like men have more genetic plasticity th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/24 08:18 PM
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Any assessment of Quillette's position re: gender politics should consider this: The Myth of Pervasive Misogyny
/r/MensRights21/09/24 12:42 AM
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The sentence is suspended but not indefinitely, she's still likely to do time. What do you mean? Usually a suspended sentence does stay suspended indefinitely. I'd improve it by making consent be a significant factor rather than requiring violence to charge for a sexual assault case. That's a good first step for their legal system. Consent was a factor. It sounds like she secretly didn't want to have sex, but in no way communicated that.
/r/MensRights20/09/24 04:19 PM
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yet sentencing one of them. and then suspending the sentence. Sounds like there's at least some room for improvement with that judgement. Saying that she was technically guilty but since no malice was present the penalty was waived seems like a fine outcome. what would you improve upon?
/r/MensRights20/09/24 03:16 PM
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If this topic is of interest to you, I highly recommend you check out: The Myth of Pervasive Misogyny It's a short opinion piece and is very well researched, including citations.
/r/MensRights18/09/24 10:33 PM
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I would say that men work more "in the office" because they are expected to be good providers and judged on their status, wealth, and ability to provide in a way that women just aren't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/24 03:00 AM
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It's a Canadian publication so... time to bust out the stats: your average man in Canada works 38 hours per week. your average woman in Canada works 33 hours a week. The unstated presumption in this article is that men should work as much as women in the home. Why should this be true if women don't work as much as their husbands outside of the home? Source: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/en/pub/14-28-0001/2023001/article/00001-eng.pdf?st=Io6_fciI
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 02:51 PM
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In my country (canada) rich women could vote before poor men. Originally, in order to vote you had to (a) own land and (b) be male. When WWI happened all of a sudden there were all these widows who suddenly owned land. They demanded and got the right to vote. Then all the poor soldiers came home from the war and were like - "why do those women get to vote when I was the one risking my life for my country?" - so they gave the vote to everyone*. And that is the story of voting in Canada. I mean, t…
/r/MensRights04/09/24 11:00 PM
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In our society, women are seen as possessing hypo-agency. This means that people think they are less capable then they really are. This causes them many problems in life that men don't face. However, those seen as less able are also seen as more deserving of help and assistance. Because women are falsely seen as weak, they are easily seen as victims. Conversely: men are seen as possessing hyper-agency. This means that people think they are more capable then they really are. This causes them many…
/r/MensRights04/09/24 10:51 PM
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In our society, women are seen as possessing hypo-agency. This means that people think they are less capable then they really are. This causes them many problems in life that men don't face. However, those seen as less able are also seen as more deserving of help and assistance. Because women are falsely seen as weak, they are easily seen as victims. Conversely: men are seen as possessing hyper-agency. This means that people think they are more capable then they really are. This causes them many…
/r/MensRights04/09/24 10:48 PM
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Honestly... it depends. Define "power". Half the ruling class is female, and it's been that way for quite some time. Does a rich female have more power than a poor man? You bet she does. You need to define "power" before you can begin to discuss who has more of it than others.
/r/MensRights04/09/24 10:37 PM
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society is what men created and continually perpetuate. Who raises and educates each generation? Men? How exactly are men perpetuating society when it's mostly women graduating university, or teaching our children? You honestly sound like a crazy or paranoid person when you agree with the idea that "society is what men created and continually perpetuate".
/r/MensRights04/09/24 03:51 PM
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"Evans was also hit with a charge of perverting the course of justice between June 13 and 27, which pertained to allegedly making a false allegation of sexual assault against the boy." We don't have all the details here, but that sure sounds like when she was caught she tried to say that she was the victim because he raped her.
/r/MensRights01/09/24 07:58 PM
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It's deliberate and insidious language used to uphold the notion that men HAVE AGENCY and women DO NOT HAVE AGENCY.
/r/MensRights28/08/24 09:22 PM
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I think people need both. I also think you can get both by paying for it. People have genuine affection for those they work with and for all the time.
/r/MensRights26/08/24 08:50 PM
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I don't think anyone needs meaningless sex. You need to define "need", because I feel like I do need sex. It's a human drive like hunger or thirst. If you're familliar with maslow's heirachy of needs, sex is not a level one need like water or air, but it definitely is a higher order need like happiness.
/r/MensRights26/08/24 06:01 PM
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Someone's not very good at google: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1372963/taylor-swift-fans-by-gender/
/r/EverydayMisandry09/08/24 12:27 PM
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i like you. you've got moxie, and a certain sort of je ne sais quoi. thank-you for your time, but I think this conversation has run it's course.
/r/MensRights10/07/24 03:30 AM
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but the idea that there are supermen whom society relies on for things we decide are great is totally ridiculous. ummmm... if that's your takeaway from me saying that exceptional creativity was needed to invent a paperclip, I think this conversation has run its course. thank-you for your time.
/r/MensRights09/07/24 10:32 PM
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Including reddit comments, yes.
/r/MensRights09/07/24 05:41 PM
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I believe this arises from the stronger visualization skills men have, which itself evolved from the hunting/defending aspect of human evolution. Men have more genetic plasticity (they vary from their averages more). In other words there are more men with very high IQ's than there are similar women. If having a very high IQ is co-related with inventing things then of course men will be doing so more often.
/r/MensRights09/07/24 05:28 PM
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It's tribalism, and we're all genetically programmed to think this way.
/r/MensRights09/07/24 05:22 PM
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I don't think it's this. You don't have to be the smartest person to, say, invent the paperclip. IQ isn't just raw processing power, it's creativity and problem solving too. You don't have to be a quick-thinker to invent the paper-clip, but you do need "one in a million" problem solving/creative abilities.
/r/MensRights09/07/24 05:21 PM
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Note the tone and language used by the CBC to describe the male equivalent to the "boysober" movement: MGTOW https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/man-up-masculinity-crisis-part-three-1.6876116 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-youtube-tags-1.6608209
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/24 04:57 PM
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Ask them why they are saying that men can't get pregnant and watch them get devoured by their peers.
/r/MensRights05/07/24 08:29 PM
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"We will not permit the promotion of gender essentialism." wow. this is so anti-science.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 02:48 PM
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The idea that we live in a patriarchy, where men as a class oppress women as a class seems pretty misandrist to me. so all feminists are misandrist to the extent that the believe and promote that narrative.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/24 03:01 PM
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what i'm understanding is that if you were the sole survivor of a plane-crash in the artic you would rather encounter a bear than a man. is that actually true?
/r/MensRights19/06/24 04:30 AM
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I confess to updating the riddle from the original way it was asked of me.
/r/MensRights19/06/24 04:24 AM
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Apologies.
/r/MensRights19/06/24 04:13 AM
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Today yes. But this riddle has been in my family for generations. For some of those generations the riddle worked without mentioning the fact that the father was also a surgeon. It is what it is.
/r/MensRights19/06/24 04:10 AM
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more completely: it's the ideas women have about men in woods that "are the problem". prove me wrong by answering my counter-example: "your plane crashes at at the north pole. you are the only survivor. would you rather your next encounter was a man or a bear?" i bet you choose "man". feel free to reddit it up and not answer but downvote...
/r/MensRights19/06/24 04:04 AM
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No bear is going to carry you out of the wilderness if you find yourself unable to do so.
/r/MensRights13/06/24 05:48 AM
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No. "A surgeon and her son" would have the same result. Just because you're biased, that doesn't mean that everyone else is. The surgeon on the flight is the boys father. you understand that part of the riddle, right? Why would you correct me to say "A surgeon and her son"?
/r/MensRights13/06/24 02:26 AM
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The bear or the tree won't act with malice but neither will they act with charity or heroism. why are men in woods assumed to be of the malicious woman-harming sort and not the running-towards-danger-to-save-others sort? most people who risk their lives for others are men. why are these people not considered in the man vs bear scenario? when it comes to interacting with a "random man" vs a "random bear" why don't people consider polar bears to be a possible type of bear? I attribute it to the wo…
/r/MensRights13/06/24 02:18 AM
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I have a take on the "trapped in the woods with a man or bear" trope that I haven't really seen others express. Basically - the outcome/answers are being distorted by our unconscious assumptions about the woods. Remember those logic riddles that rely on the unconscious assumptions of the riddle answerers? "a surgeon and his son take a flight. the flight crashes and the son is the only survivor. when he gets to the trauma centre the surgeon working there exclaims - I can't operate! this is my son…
/r/MensRights12/06/24 07:44 PM
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The situation is not framed as random human/stranger vs a random bear, it's specifically man vs bear. Think about it this way: would you rather be stuck alone with a random unknown man, a random man you know, or a random bear? That's an honest, good-faith question that I feel deserves a response.
/r/MensRights12/06/24 03:43 PM
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male disposability is a subset of misandry.
/r/MensRights10/06/24 09:31 PM
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She also said that the primary victims of war are women because they have to care for the survivors. think about that for a second... women are forced to be caretakers because the men are all dead. and because the UN also promotes that misandrous claim, snopes says it's true - even though anyone with common sense knows that men are the primary victims of war. even the fact checkers are misandrous these days.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/24 09:40 PM
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where i live (canada) the average full-time woman works 33.4 hours a week, while the average full-time man works 38.8 hours a week. additionally, men spend more time commuting than women. it's ridiculous to just look at time spent on household chores in a vacuum and make judgments about fairness and gendered justice. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/en/pub/14-28-0001/2023001/article/00001-eng.pdf?st=9CjWn0kv
/r/MensRights01/06/24 10:23 PM
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As a canadian leftie, reading this quote earlier this week was mildly infuriating: "Women and children were burned alive in tents. They were told they were in a safe zone, in a refugee encampment, yet they were burned alive," NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said Monday. Men were also burned alive, but fuck 'em, amirite? More evidence that men are the disposable gender.
/r/MensRights01/06/24 09:52 PM
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There is a subset of misandry that is best described as "male disposability". simply put: society values the lives of men less than the lives of women. this misandry is present in my society, your society, and every society in recent history. because people don't care about men they are less incentivized to discuss their gender-specific troubles and injustices. further reading: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MenAreTheExpendableGender https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_expendability
/r/MensRights01/06/24 09:49 PM
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Due to misandry, women get far more support from society than men - both emotional support and physical support. I don't know you but I do know that your government cares more for the well being of it's women than it's men. I predict that you have a bureau, dept, or minister dedicated to maintaining and improving the welfare of women, while lacking equivalent resources for men, for example. male disposability is a subset of misandry wherein both individuals and society as a whole care less for t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/24 01:14 AM
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I think a good followup to any woman who chooses the bear is to ask: "Would you rather be stuck in the woods with a bear, a random man, or a random man you know?" I would bet most women choose the man they know even though women are at a much greater risk of harm from men they know than male strangers (while men are at greater risk from strangers than men they know). This just goes to show you how terrible humans are at probabilities. If they pick the bear over the man they know or the man they …
/r/MensRights07/05/24 08:41 PM
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In our society, women are seen as possessing hypo-agency. This means that people think they are less capable then they really are. This causes them many problems in life that men don't face. However, those seen as less able are also seen as more deserving of help, assistance, leniency and mercy. Because women are falsely seen as weak, they are easily seen as victims. Conversely: men are seen as possessing hyper-agency. This means that people think they are more capable then they really are. This…
/r/MensRights05/05/24 03:57 PM
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I would sacrifice $1 to save you, friend.
/r/MensRights29/04/24 04:58 PM
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"m̶e̶n̶" a man.
/r/MensRights29/04/24 04:53 PM
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hey!
/r/MensRights08/04/24 12:59 PM
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My issue is that people deserve privacy. Gossip can still be hurtful even when true. When I am dating someone I don't want her to talk about our sex-life with her friends. I'm a very private person and it feels invasive to have this shared against my wishes. It is literally none of their business. I would certainly never tell my friends what my girlfriends kinks etc are. If she wants to tell them that's fine, but leave me out of it. Don't I have some sort of consideration for my feelings due?
/r/MensRights08/04/24 12:58 PM
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The thing is: Western democracies aren't patriarchies and portraying them as such is harmful to men and boys. People keep saying that Barbie World is a mirror of the real world with only the genders inverted. This is simply not true. If the writers truly wanted a "mirror-patriarchy" then all the homeless people would be barbies and not kens, for example. The kens would be doing all the stereotypical female roles like teaching, healthcare, HR, and child raising. But Barbie-land isn't like that at…
/r/MensRights04/04/24 09:21 PM
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The thing is: Western democracies aren't patriarchies and portraying them as such is harmful to men and boys. People keep saying that Barbie World is a mirror of the real world with only the genders inverted. This is simply not true. If the writers truly wanted a "mirror-patriarchy" then all the homeless people would be barbies and not kens, for example. The kens would be doing all the stereotypical female roles like teaching, healthcare, HR, and child raising. But Barbie-land isn't like that at…
/r/MensRights04/04/24 09:16 PM
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I'm glad that (as a canadian) I never had to choose between Hillary "women are the true victims of war" Clinton and Donald "grab 'em by the pussy" Trump
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 02:03 PM
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Once again it all comes down to: In our society, women are seen as possessing hypo-agency. This means that people think they are less capable then they really are. This causes them many problems in life that men don't face. However, those seen as less able are also seen as more deserving of help and assistance. Because women are falsely seen as weak, they are easily seen as victims. Conversely: men are seen as possessing hyper-agency. This means that people think they are more capable then they …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/24 08:54 PM
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I mean, that's just historically what happened for the most part. The histories of western democracies are tales about the balancing of privilege and responsibility between the sexes. While it was true that men had more social privileges, it is also true that they had more social responsibilities. Here is an actual poster that women created to oppose other women who were advocating for the right to vote. Note that the reason they did not want the vote was to avoid the responsibilities unequally …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/24 02:44 AM
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Men would be out there trying to out-bindle each other. "Oh you think you got bindle game? My bindle's so bad it's got a hobo rat... and that rat's so hobo he got his own bindle!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/24 06:01 PM
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This is why men strive for status,and try to be self-sufficient and stoic. I have a head-cannon comedy routine I do for myself where "the patriarchy" is ended overnight when all the hot women of the world start sleeping with hobos. If all the 10's of the world decided one night to only fuck hobos, there would be a race to the bottom so fast that women would be 100% of the ceo's by morning.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/24 05:53 PM
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Do not do this. Instead, you should ask them why they think it's wrong to accuse someone of "throwing like a girl" but not-wrong to accuse someone of "explaining like a man".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/24 08:34 PM
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I got accused of "mansplaining" If you ever want to watch cognitive dissonance happen in real time, you should ask them why they think it's wrong to accuse someone of "throwing like a girl" but not-wrong to accuse someone of "explaining like a man".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/24 08:25 PM
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One of the common arguments by feminists is that patriarchy or gender roles were created by men to control women/society. The problem with this line of thinking is that it is incredibly sexist. Here's why: In our society, women are seen as possessing hypo-agency. This means that people think they are less capable then they really are. This causes them many problems in life that men don't face. However, those seen as less able are also seen as more deserving of help and assistance. Because women …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/24 02:19 AM
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One of the biggest problems with being a women is hypo-agency - people think you are less capable than you are. An upside of this is that people think you are more deserving of help and assistance than you actually are. One of the biggest problems with being a man is hyper-agency: people think you are more capable than you actually are. A downside of this is that people think you are less deserving of help and assistance and also that people blame you for things that are out of your control.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/24 07:01 PM
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I have a head-cannon comedy routine I do where the premise is that all the "10's" out there decide to only fuck hobos and thus end patriarchy overnight as men now race to the bottom to compete for women's affections. In a very real sense, women create "the patriarchy" they say they hate.
/r/MensRights15/01/24 01:56 PM
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my experience is that they change the definition from one that's about oppression to one's that's about doing a head-count, and finally to one that's basically this: "gender roles exist, therefore it's a patriarchy"
/r/MensRights15/01/24 01:53 PM
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It's absolutely wild. I'm currently debating the existence of patriarchy in another sub and the person I was debating with pointed out how st paul minnisota just elected an all-female city council. the local paper said this was ground-breaking, and my opponent pointed to this quote as proof that we live in a patriarchy. "what ground was being broken?" they said. to me, the fact that an all female council was elected is proof that it isn't a patriarchy. It's like talking to a religious person.
/r/MensRights15/01/24 01:50 PM
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Barbie isn’t anti-men The thing is: Western democracies aren't patriarchies and portraying them as such is harmful to men and boys. People keep saying that Barbie World is a mirror of the real world with only the genders inverted. This is simply not true. If the writers truly wanted a "mirror-patriarchy" then all the homeless people would be barbies and not kens, for example. The kens would be doing all the stereotypical female roles like teaching, healthcare, HR, and child raising. But Barbie-l…
/r/MensRights09/01/24 11:53 PM
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Male hyper-agency explained
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/12/23 03:28 AM
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It's a subset of the whole "male hyper-agency" thing. Women are seen as having lesser agency than men - if a woman is lonely it's out of her control (because women are powerless) while if a man is lonely it's his fault (because men are never powerless). It's hypocritical for someone who opposes sexism to blame men for being lonely - as if nothing ever happens to them that is out of their control.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/12/23 03:11 AM
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Much better, thanks.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 12:23 AM
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That is not a trustworthy looking site, friend, and the "news" article is suspicious as fuck. That story doesn't even have a last name for anybody involved. Just mentions a "Jane".
/r/MensRights11/12/23 10:01 PM
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I went to their fucking website. After a few seconds of me standing there in disbelieve I got a pop-up: "You deserve a baby, we want to help. Unlock 10% off Use Code 10percentpregnant" Like fucking no. No one deserves a baby.
/r/MensRights11/12/23 09:54 PM
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disengaging from a baby that carries your own blood just because you didn't want to be a dad is not a good option. Hard disagree. There's a lot of shitty people out there, some of whom should not be parents even if the child "carries their own blood". You need to vastly improve the foster care system before you can even begin to discuss forcing people to have unwanted children.
/r/MensRights30/11/23 11:28 PM
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The hypocrisy of "my body, my choice" is evident on smaller issues. There are tonnes of supposedly pro-choice people who see nothing wrong with the circumcision of male infants.
/r/MensRights30/11/23 11:19 PM
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I've seen entire threads of people lose their mind when I point out that "mansplaining" is both gendered and a slur. Everyone admits that it's wrong to tell people not to "throw like a girl" but then hypocritically have no issue with telling people not to "explain like a man".
/r/MensRights30/11/23 06:48 PM
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If a story is about an all female team doing something good, the fact that it's all women will generally be mentioned. When a team that's all male is reported as doing something good, the fact that it's all men will likely not be mentioned. It's a societal double standard. If you still don't understand then you should watch that link I gave you or check out this very short article that explains things and gives examples.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 07:06 PM
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Changing our approach to headlines about heroes to be consistent when dealing with heroes of differing genders is a concrete example of "how", friend. The "further examples" link I submitted also has further examples if you're interested.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 06:58 PM
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The typical example is that of a team that's all men who work together to do something heroic. If it was an all-female team then headlines would probably focus on this: team of women save trapped boys. So too should the all-male team be celebrated: team of men save trapped boys.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 06:20 PM
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Well, obviously men do more damage when we hit women than vice versa That's only true for strong men and women without weapons, which is not always the case, to say the least.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/23 04:42 PM
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You can’t have it both ways. Exactly. That's why I'm calling it out as bullshit. If society is going to condemn men as a gender for our villains then we should celebrate men as a gender for our heroes. As it is, society calls out the villains as "male" while ignoring gender when it recognizes male heroes.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 04:25 PM
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Pretty sure men are praised for doing these things you listed. But not for being men. When men are heroic their gender is downplayed, but when men are villains their gender is up-played. Examples: There are discussions about why most serial killers are men, and these discussions imply gender is to blame. There are not similar discussions on how most heroes are men, and if there were nobody would be crediting the male gender for being inherently heroic. Further examples.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 03:55 PM
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Personally, I’d jump in front of a bullet or anything else to save someone I care for regardless of gender. Men consistently do this for strangers, not just loved ones. It's a good men/bad men thing because when men do bad their gender is highlighted, while when they do good there gender is downplayed. Conversely, when women do good their gender is celebrated, but when they do bad their gender is ignored. This is called gamma bias and is a real thing men deal with in western democracies.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 03:32 PM
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Time and time again in REAL LIFE, I meet good men who are divorced, have been cheated on or screwed in some way This makes them just like everyone else. There is no gender-based injustice here. as far as I can see it, our society completely not holding women accountable. This is also a very real thing.
/r/MensRights22/11/23 07:33 AM
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I don’t believe this issue is as simple as society hating men. 100% agree. It's not as simple as society hating men. What's undeniable is that even if you take the "hate" out, it's undeniable that society cares less about the well-being of men than it does for the well-being of women. Society also doesn’t care about incarcerated people in general so I really don’t think this is an issue of misandry. The number of fathers to mothers in prison exceeds 10:1 How can a charity that only cares about t…
/r/MensRights21/11/23 01:33 AM
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85 persons signed the petition 🤔, 75 this week... Maybe you could find petitions that were more popular? Agreed. It's not really about the petition, it's about the everyday misandry involved the petition invokes. It's another brink in the monument to society caring more about women than men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/23 12:59 AM
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I guess I'm not sure why it matters if you or I (or anyone) thinks certain jobs deserve more pay than others. It matters to me because a non-trivial number of people believe that men earn more than women due to some sort of "patriarchal privilege". These people attribute the higher earnings of men not as a manifestation of market forces, but as proof positive that women (as a class) are oppressed be men (as a class). This falsely perceived injustice is then used as a justification for all sorts …
/r/MensRights21/11/23 12:47 AM
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Are the imprisoned men who are fathers involved and married or did they just get someone pregnant? C'mon. You can't just ask crazy rhetorical questions and then act like you made a point. "Are the imprisoned mothers all nazis who got pregnant with the intention of propaging the white race?" See how that works? In the prison system women are forced to give birth in chains, kept from receiving adequate prenatal care, and have their baby immediately taken way. How is that different than the men who…
/r/MensRights21/11/23 12:34 AM
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So I'll ask again: If people who do dangerous jobs deserve to earn more, and if men are those people, are you saying that men deserve to earn more than women?
/r/MensRights19/11/23 07:03 AM
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Also, where is your petition for men? The thing that you're totally failing to grasp is that: If it was true that society fundamentally cares more about the well-being of women than the well-being of men, then the effectiveness of petitions would be predictably different for each gender. If it was true that people don't care about men, then asking people to contribute to male causes isn't going to produce results. Most won't contribute because most do not care. On the flip side, advocating for a…
/r/MensRights19/11/23 06:19 AM
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There is pointing out examples and hating. Thin line between the two. That's a pretty much zero-content reply to what I just said. What you said has no meaning. You might just as well have said: "There is pointing out examples and loving. Thin line between the two." Like.... okay? What does that have to do with what we are discussing? Your reply needs elaboration, to say the least. Can you elaborate?
/r/MensRights19/11/23 06:08 AM
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100% agree. I hate how over-used the term gas-lighting is, but there is no denying that it applies here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/23 06:02 AM
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You're not wrong. It's still a good thing to call out hypocrisy. There's a reason that "women most affected" is a cultural trope.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/23 05:58 AM
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Western democracies (including Canada) are not patriarchies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/23 05:53 AM
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u/TheTinMenBlog Thought you might be interested in these statistics.
/r/MensRights18/11/23 09:28 PM
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This is exactly correct.
/r/MensRights18/11/23 09:25 PM
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American cancer society funds research to cure prevent the spread of cancer And if it spent 100% of it's resources on curing a rare form of cancer that only affected cancer researchers, then people would point out how hypocritical it was and accuse it of practising in bad faith. Which is why when feminists are being hypocritical and arguing in bad faith I point it out. That petition is one such example.
/r/MensRights18/11/23 09:08 PM
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This is a sub about helping men to achieve gender equality. Because feminism as it is practised today is hostile to the concept of gender equality for men, this sub is therefor also a sub about feminism. We don't "paint feminism in a bad light". Feminists do that. We merely point it out when it happens.
/r/MensRights18/11/23 09:03 PM
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Changing even one person's opinion about feminism is "getting somewhere", friend. There is a pretty large gap between how feminism works in theory (promoting gender equality) and how it works in reality (tribalistic adversity to equality for men). The men's rights movement only exists because there is a similar gap in our societal narrative when it comes to the sexes. Most people believe things about men that aren't true and disbelieve things that are. Pointing out the most egregious examples of…
/r/MensRights18/11/23 08:53 PM
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So start another petition instead of complaining about a petition another group has started. My problem isn't with the existence of the petition per say, it's with the reasoning behind that particular petition. I feel like society very obviously cares about the well being of women more than it cares about men. This state of affairs is adamantly denied even among the most progressive of my friends, family, and co-workers. Male Disposability is an inherently misandrist phenomenon. As long as this …
/r/MensRights18/11/23 09:18 AM
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It's a new variation on an old sexist trope: fathers in prison outnumber mothers in prison by more than 10:1 - women most affected.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/23 07:06 AM
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It's a new variation on an old sexist trope: fathers in prison outnumber mothers in prison by more than 10:1 - women most affected.
/r/MensRights18/11/23 06:28 AM
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100% agree.
/r/MensRights18/11/23 05:08 AM
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insults like "incel" which at its core isnt a bad thing. language evolves. incel now has another (more popular?) meaning: socially unskilled person lacking desirable/attractive qualities. they insult his package size, his height, (etc) When they do you should point out that they just increased the amount of toxic masculinity in the world.
/r/MensRights18/11/23 03:53 AM
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It's sounds like you're implying that men should do the vast majority of jobs that are physically damaging, socially isolating, physically degrading, and/or potentially lethal for zero extra dollars. If that's not what you're implying... how many extra dollars do you think that men deserve? Lot's? Some? or are we back to "none"?
/r/MensRights18/11/23 01:02 AM
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Would you say that people who do jobs that are physically damaging, socially isolating, physically degrading, and frequently lethal deserve more money than people who do identical jobs that aren't any of those things? For example: does a cafeteria worker in the arctic circle deserve more earnings than a cafeteria worker at the local university?
/r/MensRights18/11/23 12:43 AM
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70% of users of her app... are low-income women who are often left out of equity conversations. low-income women... are often left out of equity conversations. HA! Ha Ha. AHAHAHAHAHA(gasp)HAHAHAHA HA HA!!! these "business insider" people should write for the onion.
/r/MensRights18/11/23 12:39 AM
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Also: most western democracies have a branch of government devoted to the welfare of women, while lacking an equivalent branch for men.
/r/MensRights16/11/23 04:55 PM
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That was a great analysis. other redditors - if you are interested in this author you should click the link.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/23 04:39 PM
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yeah, and there's a reason they call it "mansplaining". that being said, perhaps it's better to avoid pushing sexist gender stereotypes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/23 07:24 AM
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Honest answer: It sounds like you are engaging in an (exasperated sigh) "women... isn't this stereotype typical of their behaviour?" moment. a female-centric equivalent to that caption would be: (exasperated sigh) "Me as my boyfriend mansplains why I am wrong."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/23 04:47 AM
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I don't know you, and I don't claim to speak for your lived experiences. If you say that you are doing more than your fair share of "emotional labour" then I believe you. I too have been in such circumstances. But to go and frame that as an "all women"/"this is what women do" meme is to frame reality inaccurately. If you were a woman posting an "all men" meme I would also speak up to say we should move beyond such tribal framings.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/23 04:41 AM
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It's a meme. Click on "The Pill" video.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/23 04:22 AM
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In my experience the claim that women are doing all the emotional labor is absolute BS. My lived experience agrees.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/23 03:38 AM
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dislike. this gives off some serious "Women ☕" vibes. pushing negative gender stereotypes is wrong whether it's "throwing like a girl", "explaining like a man", or this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/23 02:32 AM
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"Ms. Camino, for her part, has dabbled in dating since her partner left but hasn’t yet met anyone who shares her values, someone who’s funny and — she hesitates to use the word “feminist” — but..." ...but that what she means. it's the second word that comes to her mind when thinking about her values. for some reason Sarah Camino can't find a guy who believes that women in western democracies are oppressed as a class by men. Ms Camino can't find anyone who thinks that the united states is an oppr…
/r/MensRights13/11/23 11:17 PM
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thank-you!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/23 07:53 PM
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AMAZING! thanks so much kind stranger!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/23 07:49 PM
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Tell me what you think about it! I think that women are judged by society (ie. men and women) primarily on their looks while men are judged by society primarily on their status. Calling someone a loser is a dig at their success/status and is thus done to men more than women because it's more insulting to a man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/23 11:53 PM
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society attributes hypoagency to women / girls and hyperagency to men / boys.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 11:34 PM
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You dismissing her concerns and making her feel crazy for feeling the way she does is in fact gaslighting that's not gas-lighting. having a strong opinion about a subject is not the same as belittling someone's feelings. nowhere in OP's posts do they say they belittled her feelings. true gas-lighting is doing things to make them think they are crazy - denying things happened that actually did or questioning their memory. in order for gas-lighting to have taken place there needs to be an intent t…
/r/MensRights08/11/23 11:26 PM
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Are all women Gaslighters? No. if you've ever hated hearing "all men" this or spoken up against "all men" that, then you should practice what you preach and call out "all women" comments for the bullshit they are.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 11:19 PM
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The real problem is that "male disposability" is wired into our dna - literally. Sacrificing the male for the good of the female and their offspring is a valid evolutionary strategy. Whether it's a spider eating her mate for an immediate resource boost or a male bird being a more vividly coloured target, this theme plays out across many species. Humans are wired to care less about men than women. Once you realise this you can see it played out over and over throughout society.
/r/MensRights15/08/23 05:32 PM
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Bettina Arndt
/r/MensRights15/08/23 02:52 PM
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It sounds like you're partner is appreciate of your financial contributions and wouldn't freak out if you asked to go back to 50/50. Unlike the lady in the OP who sounds like she was taking her SO's contributions for granted and definitely did freak out when asked for 50/50.
/r/MensRights15/08/23 02:41 PM
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Because the root cause of homelessness is mental (un)health, and no province is currently funding mental healthcare at levels sufficient to prevent homelessness.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/23 10:49 PM
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"NOTE May 2nd 2023. Over the past few days we have been alerted that Google has started inserting ads into our video, despite our team deliberately NOT enabling ads for our channel. We do not wish to have ads, and have not earned from any ads. All revenue is going to Google. YouTube Support explained that Google has the right to place ads should we choose to not monetize videos ourselves. They have asked us to contact Google Support which we are now doing. We are asking them to stop interrupting…
/r/MensRights06/05/23 06:56 AM
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"More than 150 interviews later, her research – the largest anthropological study to date into why women freeze their eggs – concluded that it was men, not women, who were the problem. The biggest driving factor for women in the US was a shortage of suitable educated men, a problem which she terms in her forthcoming book, Motherhood on Ice, the “mating gap”." This paragraph is so infuriating. First of all... prove to me that this is in fact a problem. Second... Define "suitable".
/r/MensRights03/05/23 06:07 PM
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I think your last two paragraphs are something everyone needs to be reminded about from time to time. Well said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/23 08:10 PM
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Not that particular post but: https://web.archive.org/web/20230214012948/https://www.reddit.com/r/Diabla/
/r/MensRights17/04/23 08:35 PM
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Cue the feminists moving the "headcount definition" goal posts in 3... 2... 1...
/r/MensRights14/04/23 05:59 AM
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It's worth pointing out that this info is found on our official government website under the heading of "Women". Not "Gender". Not "Sex". Because it's important to our government that Canadians know the stats for women. That's why they get their own heading.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 05:06 AM
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It's worth pointing out that this info is found on our official government website under the heading of "Women". Not "Gender". Not "Sex". Because it's important to our government that Canadians know the stats for women. That's why they get their own heading.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/23 04:50 AM
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come on people: 1) "Importantly, a report via SARO does not in itself commence a police investigation," and 2) It's not women-only as the OP's post title misleads you to think. Men can anonymously report a SA too.
/r/MensRights14/01/23 01:43 PM
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The wage gap is false, but there is a very real gender-based earnings gap. It's important to understand the difference. Even if you pay men and women the exact same wage, the men will have greater earnings, statistically speaking. The reason that men earn more than women is because, frankly, they deserve it. There are many reasons this is true but even one should do. So here goes: Fact: The vast majority of dangerous/physically degrading/socially isolating jobs are done by men. Given this fact a…
/r/AntiFeminists20/12/22 08:45 AM
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This Quillette article was written for you.
/r/EverydayMisandry20/12/22 06:10 AM
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he had passports from 4 different countries and brought $80000 into russia "for a wedding". While there he left the main wedding group and met "a contact" at a hotel where he accepted a thumbdrive with a list of all employees at a classified russian org. I get that people care less about men than women but let's not pretend like the cases are the same. now marc fogel on the other hand...
/r/MensRights08/12/22 09:43 PM
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*Straughan
/r/MensRights15/11/22 06:34 PM
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/ryerson-mens-issues-group-says-student-union-shutting-out-male-voices/article27180128/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/22 02:14 PM
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boys don't get beat. Source? Because I just looked at a metastudy that found that boys very much do get beat - frequently more often than girls (see table 1): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4277799/
/r/AntiFeminists04/11/22 11:26 PM
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There's a bunch of studies that show that men and women have the same average IQ, but men deviate from this average more than women. The first one I came across was a 2008 analysis of 80,000 scotish school children who all took the same IQ test in school every year. I found the sample size and methodology to be persuasive. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/240323443_Sex_Differences_in_Variability_in_General_Intelligence_A_New_Look_at_the_Old_Question
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/10/22 09:01 PM
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I strongly believe that (generally speaking) women are judged on their appearance in a way that men just aren't and that men are judged on their wealth/status in a way that women just aren't. So in a way, objectification thesis is correct. The problems are that: 1) the theory ignores that men are treated as status objects 2) the theory is wrong in concluding that only men objectify women this way. Women also judge their peers by on their looks, just as men also judge their peers on their status.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/22 08:59 PM
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That first link is enraging. "Boys are marked lower than girls in non-blind tests. Blind testing has them not doing worse. Rather than accept this as evidence that boys suffer from sexist grading, we conclude that the blind testing is somehow discriminating against the girls. Therefor we must adjust the blind tests results to favour girls!" Has anyone asked the people making these decisions what the mechanism by which the blind testing enacts it's discrimination against girls is? I'd be most int…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/22 04:19 PM
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I've been thinking about this a lot lately, especially in terms of phenotype plasticity as it relates to height, IQ, and empathy. basically: males are more frequently represented on the highest and lowest parts of a trait spectrum than females. Men and women have the same average IQ's, but there are more very intelligent and very stupid men. It is also likely that the same applies for empathy, and it's absence - psychopathy. There are problably more male heros and villains than female ones. Men …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/22 09:29 PM
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Small clarification: (to simplify) It's not that men are attacked more, it's that when women get attacked it's more likely to be in their homes, and more likely to be by someone they know. Men are more likely to be attacked while out alone at night.
/r/MensRights22/09/22 12:51 PM
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I just don’t see it In my opinion the reason you don't see it is because it's not there. It's just a collective falsehood we all participate in for various reasons. The reasons most of us participate in the falsehood are not malicious, but nevertheless... we still participate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/22 12:02 AM
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(aside) Anecdote from a false narrative: Warren Buffett lives in a no-fault divorce state. In the event of a divorce his spouse (Astrid Menks) is legally entitled to half his money, no questions asked. In a less false narrative, any list of the wealthiest people in the USA would have Warren and his spouse tied, each with half of their collective worth. That would be equal. I've always thought it telling that professional feminists don't advocate for the Astrid Menks of the world to be listed alo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 11:04 PM
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Since the definition of patriarchy contains the concept of "power", it all depends on your definition of "power". One definition of power is money/class. In my country (Canada) the ruling class isn't men, it's rich-people... and half of them are women. Ask the mods: When you go to the nice parts of your city, are the people living there mostly men, mostly women, or about half and half? Are the people who drive the expensive cars mostly men, mostly women, or about 50/50? Are the people wearing th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 10:31 PM
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Why do false narratives endure? It has always been the case that (whether true or false) it pays to support a popular narrative. Literally. In nations of every sort temples and idols are lined with gold. Evangelists make bank whether the beliefs they espouse are religious, political, artistic, or even scientific. Thus those with a vested interest in a false narrative are incentivized to work to maintain it against the greater good. It also has ever been the case that the more one had to lose, th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 09:56 PM
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Aside: Why does the false narrative endure? It has ever been the case that the more one had to lose the riskier it was for one to challenge the priest-class on their beliefs. Thus those with the most power and influence over society are often the least incentivied to challenge a false narrative. It has also been the case that it pays to support a popular narrative. Literally. In nations of every sort temples and idols alike are lined with gold. Evangelists make bank whether the beliefs they espo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 09:46 PM
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I feel repulsed by... patriarchy No western democracy is a Patriarchy. Patriarchy is a system in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it. The entire concept is antithetical to a western democracy. People who do not live in a patriarchy honestly believe they do because they are, for a lack of a better term, "gaslit" into believing so. And because they falsely believe they live in a patriarchy, some of them feel justified in "punching up" against their oppressors by using t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 09:10 PM
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Honest questions asked in good faith: 1) There are some who would blame a starving woman for the crime of stealing bread, and some that would blame the society that deprives her of sustenance. Which are you? 2) If incel internet culture is solely to blame for school shootings, how do you explain the fact that school shootings happened before the existence of internet incel groups, or even the internet? 3) How do you explain the discrepancy between what experts on this subject matter believe and …
/r/MensRights20/09/22 08:32 PM
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Just be respectful, and you'll be fine. At least around here.
/r/MensRights20/09/22 07:25 PM
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Who are you trying to blame here for almost all mass shooters being male? I blame the shooters and the societies that make them. Who are you blaming? Men? Because it sounds like you're blaming men. But that would make you misandrist and therefor part of the problem. So if you're not blaming men, then who are you blaming? Hint: It's not the echo chambers that cause school shooters, it's the untreated suffering of the people who go on to shoot. "Most shooters in these cases had led difficult lives…
/r/MensRights20/09/22 07:19 PM
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I don’t know and frankly that doesn’t really matter It matters if you are invested in preventing future tragedies. Perhaps if school shooters were treated differently they would not become killers. Some people are born killers and some are moulded into killers by society. About 1 in 100 people are psychopathic. Most of them lead normal lives. Neither you nor I can know what causes some to shoot up schools and some to become CEOs, but it would be naive in the extreme to discount environmental fac…
/r/MensRights20/09/22 06:22 PM
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Kinda off topic, but I can't believe the author and their editors are fine with the premise that calling gender dysphoria a mental illness is "discriminatory". I'm not a fan, but like THAT'S you objection to Shapiro?
/r/MensRights20/09/22 05:15 PM
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And yet you are not banned.
/r/MensRights20/09/22 05:06 PM
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1) Women do kill innocent people and children. Just not at the same rates. 2) Do you feel that mainstream misandry contributes to the rate that boys and men are involved in perpetrating these killings? 3) Why do you think it's mostly boys who shoot their schoolmates?
/r/MensRights20/09/22 05:06 PM
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I think that it's undeniable that subs like Female Dating Strategy radicalize women to be abusive, yes. Remember, there are kinds of abuse besides "physical". I also think that women are being radicalized to be anti-male in less obvious ways in many other mainstream places.
/r/MensRights20/09/22 04:59 PM
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To extend the wealth metaphor: There is a difference between having led a life of riches and walking away from it, and having led a life of poverty that has never known wealth.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 12:59 PM
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He's not saying that men's shelters are outlawed. Perhaps OP didn't mean to say that, but that is what they did in fact say. I apologize for being pedantic. I wish that feminists would point out when their peers say untrue things and I try to lead by example so... here we are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/22 02:28 AM
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You need a citation to prove that gendered bathrooms aren't illegal? Do you never leave your house? who's grasping at straws here? gendered bathrooms are everywhere, yet nobody is going to jail for having one. Title x doesn't exist in Canada where I live. and yes sports in the usa do discriminate based on gender. all the time and at every level. try and be a man who identifies as a man and plays for the women's olympic basketball team. You can't, and that's perfectly legal. I'm tired of arguing …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/22 01:46 AM
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Random sampling analysis shows that where I live it's 14%. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/health-headlines/one-in-7-canadians-has-genital-herpes-statscan-study-1.1241792
/r/MensRights16/09/22 06:43 PM
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The legal system allows allows for gender discrimination in bathrooms and sports and rent out a room, so maybe it's only illegal in certain contexts, like hiring etc. Just because it's illegal to discriminate when hiring doesn't mean its illegal to discriminate when building a bathroom or shelter.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/22 04:47 PM
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OP makes post about gendered LAWS. Lists 3 gendered LAWS. Lists one gendered non-LAW, as if it is a law. I corrected this, I got downvoted. There was no goal post moved.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/22 04:38 PM
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Nobody has made such a claim. There is no reason to strawman such a thing. um... ok. I think it's reasonable to say that every western country has gendered laws... Abuse shelters being allowed to be only for women disadvantages men. I guess I'm imagining things. Apologies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/22 02:33 AM
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I absolutely agree. That doesn't mean that it's illegal to open a men's shelter. Let's not be like our opponents who, on occasion, exaggerate the scope of their grievances.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/22 01:27 AM
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Net downvotes merely for stating (with empathy) that it's not illegal to establish a men's shelter. ...way to go Left Wing Male Advocates. You want echo chambers? This is how you get echo chambers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/22 01:22 AM
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I don't think you can prosecute someone for not starting up a DV centre. So yes, if it was mostly mens shelters and no womens shelters it would be allowed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/22 08:19 PM
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I get what you're saying, but I don't think the lack of men's DV shelters is due to them being against the law.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/22 07:24 PM
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The "women are wonderful" effect is real. The converse (men are terrible) is also therefor true. Society's bias in favor of women means there is literally a bias against men.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 04:43 PM
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The systemic oppression of men is easy to prove. The same methodology that proves that black people are systemically oppressed also supports men being systemically oppressed. https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/677255 https://academic.oup.com/aler/article-abstract/17/1/127/212179?login=false
/r/MensRights15/09/22 04:38 PM
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Where I live it's not on any streaming servings I subscribe to (hbo, prime, disney). Maybe it's different in your country. Google turns up no clips, but there are a bunch of articles about it. Here is one: https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2020/12/26/the-warped-morality-of-wonder-woman-1984/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/22 11:59 PM
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Yup. At the end of the movie she encounters the unwilling body again and looks him up and down knowingly. "I like your... (looks up and down a second time)... outfit." Wonder Woman Now reverse the genders and think how socially acceptable that scene would be.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/22 11:16 PM
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Except for that scene in the last movie where she raped a guy. Whups, I mean... "had sex with someone's body without its owners consent." Totally not rape, that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/22 10:51 PM
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Is Starlight the only unflawed character in The Boys?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/22 10:30 PM
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Thanks!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/22 06:38 PM
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Can some kind soul explain how p-value works?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/22 05:55 PM
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So what exactly is your point again?
/r/MensRights03/09/22 06:11 AM
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So, a bad thing (vagina) but a male version of it. Is not the idea that a vagina is a bad thing inherently sexist/misogynist? That term is as bad/harmful to progress as "mansplaining".
/r/MensRights03/09/22 03:34 AM
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What's a mangina? It sounds like the kind of sexist terminology that hateful people use. Can you explain?
/r/MensRights02/09/22 04:46 PM
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When things were bad at home she would take him reading at the library. Pretty sure she knew what was up. She definitely knows that his abusive father killed her aunt. From the marvel wiki: "These factors led to (hulk's father) abusing Bruce physically. One of the people who helped Bruce cope with Brian's tantrums was his paternal cousin Jennifer Walters, with whom Bruce used to spend summers in the public library reading for hours, losing themselves to books.[57] Bruce's life reached a turning …
/r/MensRights02/09/22 04:43 PM
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What's a mangina? It sounds like the kind of sexist terminology that hateful people use. Can you explain?
/r/MensRights02/09/22 04:35 PM
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That's not a defence of the argument you are making. Try again.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 04:01 PM
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From the marvel wiki: "Robert Bruce Banner is the son of Dr. Brian Banner, an atomic physicist, and his wife Rebecca. Although Rebecca deeply loved Bruce, who returned her affection, Brian hated their child and was driven by an insane jealousy of Bruce for being an object of Rebecca's love. Further, Brian believed that his radiation work had altered his DNA and given him a mutant son.[4] These factors led to Brian abusing Bruce physically. One of the people who helped Bruce cope with Brian's tan…
/r/MensRights02/09/22 03:56 PM
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Then why are you saying that it's telling lies? What are some things in the documentary that you think are lies or that attempt to deceive the viewer?
/r/MensRights31/08/22 11:07 PM
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"the Red Pill" is a documentary about the men's rights movement that was made by a feminist. The raw files are footage produced by that feminist that didn't make the final cut of the documentary. You should check it out the film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLzeakKC6fE
/r/MensRights31/08/22 08:46 PM
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I truly believe that most animals have instincts... behaviours they do because it's hard-wired into them. No monarch butterfly in new york ever thinks to itself "I think I'll fly to mexico now." No salmon decides to swim upstream. Yet they do. One of the instincts that humans have is to care about women more than they do about men. The empathy-gap is real, and it perfectly explains Reddits decisions without any malicious intent whatsoever. Reddit favours and protects women because humans favour …
/r/MensRights31/08/22 02:03 AM
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Thanks! I retracted my downvote on your comment.
/r/MensRights31/08/22 01:52 AM
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OP is talking about the empathy-gap, and the myth of pervasive misogyny. What's your multi-dimensional take on how society as a whole fails to acknowledge the empathy-gap and instead gaslights a false narrative of men controlling society for their benefit at the expense of women?
/r/MensRights31/08/22 01:09 AM
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That was an excellent post. It's a shame I can't comment. You might find this article interesting. It's like the flipside of people not caring about men: https://web.archive.org/web/20220210200651/https://quillette.com/2020/07/27/the-myth-of-pervasive-misogyny/
/r/MensRights31/08/22 12:50 AM
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No, it's a critique of MEN who do that. Hence the incredibly sexist terminology. Contrast to "Throwing like a girl", which is another sexist stereotype I've heard IRL. If it's wrong to tell tell someone not to throw like a girl, or accuse them of girl-throwing, it's is wrong to accuse men of mansplaining or pejoratively call them out for "explaining like a man" for the exact same reasons.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 10:31 PM
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All other factors being equal, black people in the USA have worse outcomes than white people when interacting with the criminal justice system. We call that systemic racism. https://repository.law.umich.edu/articles/1414/ All other things being equal, men have worse outcomes when interacting with the criminal justice system than women. Is that not an example of systemic sexism versus men? https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1164&context=law_econ_current How can a society…
/r/MensRights29/08/22 09:32 PM
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Women already are underpaid which is why we're more likely to pursue higher education in an attempt to close the wage gaps and make a half-decent living wage. If getting decent paying jobs is the sole motivation, why are women not going for well paying jobs like roofer, miner, steel worker or trash collector?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/22 12:52 PM
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Or commuting. Last time I investigated one of these studies they did not consider commuting to be unpaid work. Men spend significantly more than time than women commuting to and from work, but time is not counted as "paid work": https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/to-bring-attention-to-the-31-gender-commute-time-gap-equal-commute-day-for-us-women-will-occur-on-june-6/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/22 12:52 PM
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She was paid more than Chris Pratt for Passengers. I wonder what Bryce thinks about that.
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 07:31 PM
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Let's be honest: Asking if someone is a virgin isn't the same as shaming them for their virginity. All I got out of that clip was that a non-celebrity has a rock-star level of famous relative and was probing them for gossip about a fellow band-mate. It comes off as both believable and non-offensive to me. Plus, I always figured cap and Natasha likely hooked-up during Winter Soldier, while Bruce and Natasha have real history from Age of Ultron. If Bruce was my cousin I might be pressing him on th…
/r/MensRights13/08/22 04:37 AM
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? You're comparing white cultures to... white cultures? i get what you're saying, I just don't think this is about skin colour like you are saying it is.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 12:36 PM
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Are you trolling me? If not, please elaborate on how "having women's brains" leads people to "be convinced" of different things than "having men's brains" does.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/22 04:21 AM
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Here is something for my fellow canadians: This lawfirm wants to attract paternity fraud business. See how they brag about the favourable outcome they obtained for their client: Facts: Man paid child support for 10 years. Eventually fell behind by $30,000. Did paternity test, found out he wasn't father. Hired this law-firm - probably not cheap. They cleared him of all future obligations, PLUS he now only has to pay $4500 in arrears. Victory! https://www.complexfamilylaw.com/featured-articles/pat…
/r/MensRights15/07/22 01:02 AM
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Sorry my OG response was made while baked as fuck.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 12:56 AM
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Of those four groups, Aboriginal Women have the fewest victims In terms of count of victims or in terms of proportionally to percentage of population?
/r/MensRights14/07/22 11:33 PM
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Here is a short tutorial on the matter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6N-wdMu7J0
/r/MensRights14/07/22 01:01 PM
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"that excluding enough female points of view in leadership creates only what men think women want/benefit from. " This sounds like nonsense to me. Using your own metaphor: You can't tell your dog how to design a house, but women can certainly communicate their viewpoints well enough for male politicians to understand what women want and would benefit from. "So, feminists could accept that (male politicians) like women, but serve a particular social structure with its own imperatives outside of w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/22 09:45 PM
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Right! Finally someone gets it. Men should always have to support their children, under every and all circumstances and discussing the matter is stupid and pointless. It doesn't matter if a boy is raped by a woman - he should pay for that child for the rest of his life. People who are raped should be forced by law to interact with their rapists on a regular basis and to give them a significant part of their income because that is the right thing to do! https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/…
/r/MensRights29/06/22 08:15 PM
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Why is this a gender issue? Isn't this also why "his history matters" as well? Perusing the evidence it seems like men with more partners are more likely to cheat as well.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 02:59 AM
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That's a rich vs poor thing, not a male vs female thing. Where I live (Canada) women who owned property got the vote before men with no property. The men weren't being discriminated against because they were men, it's because they were poor.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 02:42 AM
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"feminists who support JD" Can we please not upvote generalizations about "some/all feminists who support johnny depp"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/22 05:58 AM
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Because power used to default gender.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/22 12:38 AM
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So... women definitely had royal power, just not as often as men?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/22 12:33 AM
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But women being kept out of those decision-making positions was How do you reconcile your belief that women were excluded from power with the existence of people like Queen Isabella of Spain, who bank-rolled Columbus and changed the world forever?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/22 11:27 AM
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How do you think women accomplished good things if they had no power?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/22 12:46 AM
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So would you say that all the good things that society has accomplished are due to male rulers as well?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/22 06:51 PM
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What is your reasoning behind that conclusion?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/22 06:16 PM
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women being able to make change as voters is "rather new". So... before women got the vote, 100% of all human progress is credited to men? That doesn't sound right. And yet if "the person you were talking to" is right about women in the past having no power, how did they improve society? Either women had no say in things and all bad things and all good things are attributable to men only, or men and women both had influence over their societies and thus both deserve the credit and blame for the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/22 06:01 PM
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men having been in positions of power for centuries - This is where they are wrong. Men have never had "all the power". Tell them this. If they disagree: Ask them to define "power". If they say power = Money Ask them "who lives in the nicest neighbourhoods, drives the expensive cars, and wears the designer clothes? Is it mostly men, mostly women, or about half and half?" Point out that half of the ruling class are women now, and it's been that way for quite some time. If they say power = politic…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/22 12:02 PM
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Shaming a man for being a virgin (or even not enough sex) is the male equivalent to shaming a woman for being a slut (or having too much sex.) Anyone who uses the term "incel" pejoratively is pushing harmful male stereotypes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/22 09:32 PM
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I agree. Imagine if tomorrow the Ontario government (OHIP) charged women more because of their longer average lifespans. There would be unrest in the streets. Men would march on behalf of women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/22 09:01 PM
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Sure thing: "Back in 1992, a legal battle between the Zurich Insurance Company and The Ontario Human Rights Commission, resulted in the Supreme Court of Canada ruling to allow age, gender, and marital status factors to be used as rating factors for auto insurance. In the 1980s the human rights complaint was filed against the Zurich Insurance Company by an insured individual by the name of Michael Bates. Bates alleged that it was against his human rights to be charged a higher insurance rate beca…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/22 09:00 PM
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Your narrative that women are significantly poorer than men is not factually accurate. I think you're misrepresenting the state of poverty in north america these days. Where I live (Canada), for every 10 poor women there are 9 poor men. In fact in some parts of Canada (the province of Saskatchewan) it's actually reversed, such that for every 9 poor women there are 10 poor men. Meanwhile, government spending on women tends to be higher, which contributes to the higher homeless rates for men. Ques…
/r/MensRights05/05/22 12:38 AM
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the more this subreddit points fingers or bashes feminism, the more it would seem to the outsiders that this is just another anti-feminist club. The country I live in (Canada) is not a patriarchy but the feminists living here insist it is. They also see any discussion around our society not being a patriarchy as "bashing feminism". If feminism insists that western democracies are patriarchal then it should be "bashed". Therefor, there is nothing inherently wrong with criticizing (bashing) femini…
/r/MensRights13/04/22 01:28 PM
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Maybe.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/22 12:14 AM
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I sympathize with your outrage, but... the quoted statistic was about "gendered violence", which could include things other than just "domestic violence".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/22 11:47 PM
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Fourth-year politics and governance student Kevin Arriola launched a new Ryerson Men's Issues Awareness Society on Reddit last month and tried to get it certified by the Ryerson Students' Union. The Ryerson Feminist Collective was quick to condemn the group, saying it "unequivocally denounces any organization that makes students feel unsafe."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/22 10:09 PM
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Those links are literally outrageous. I am now outraged. so... thanks for that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/22 03:58 AM
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Here's the problem: You are treating patriarchy like it's "a system of society or government in which men hold the power or women are largely excluded from it." Because the first half of the definition is true you point to that and say "Ah Ha! See... Canada is a Patriarchy." But that is not the definition. In order for a system to be a patriarchy two things need to be true: 1) "Men hold the power and 2) women are largely excluded from it." If men hold power and women are not excluded from it, th…
/r/MensRights04/02/22 08:25 PM
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No, most leaders are historically not advocates of equal rights I thought we were talking about Canada today. Your logic: Most leaders in Canada today are men, therefor Canada is a patriarchy. Also your logic: Most leaders in Canada today are feminists, therefor Canada is feminist. Why is one statement true, but one the other false? And if your saying that my definition of feminism is weak, I can call out you definition of patriarchy as equally weak. Patriarchy has nothing to do with head-counts…
/r/MensRights04/02/22 06:01 PM
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. Is it justified to say 'feminists' run Canada? All it takes to be a feminist is the belief that women should be allowed the same rights, power, and opportunities as men and be treated in the same way https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/feminism If this describes the majority of elected leaders, then they are feminists. So: Are you saying that most of Canada's leaders don't believe in equal rights, or are you admitting that most leaders are feminists? If most leaders are feminis…
/r/MensRights04/02/22 05:29 PM
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But according to your logic Canada is both a patriarchy and run by feminists. Your logic, not mine. According to you Canada is a feminist patriarchy.
/r/MensRights04/02/22 05:07 PM
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So if a simple head-count is all it takes to define the character of a nation then by your definition, Canada is ruled by feminists.
/r/MensRights04/02/22 04:09 PM
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Who has power - politicians or the people who elect them? I say in a democracy, it is the voters who have the power. Do you disagree? Let's say your right though and all it takes to qualify for a patriacrchy is for 51% of elected representatives to be men. In Canada, more than 50% of elected officials are feminists. By your own reasoning then, Canada is a feminist patriarchy.
/r/MensRights04/02/22 04:07 PM
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"If neither Canada nor America have patriarchal values, why so we exclusively vote male leaders? " More men win elections because more men run for office. Also: I never said there were NO patriarchal values, I just said it wasn't a patriarchy. Canada also has matriarchal values. The presence of these does not make it a matriarchy any more than the presence of patriarchal values makes it a patriarchy.
/r/MensRights04/02/22 03:34 PM
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Point out that most of the "child raising" is done by women and ask whether or not the people raising kids help "set" expectations.
/r/MensRights04/02/22 03:17 PM
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is that Patriarchy simply defines a culture and society that has and or is influenced by a familial and or political structure that puts emphasis on male leadership. By this definition, western nations like usa / canada are not patriarchies. Canada is not "majority male dominated" nor are any democracies where women get as many votes as men.
/r/MensRights04/02/22 03:11 PM
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"some women have been oppressed for millennia” You're going to have a hard time convincing me that Queen Isabella of Spain (who sent thousands of men against their will to south america to plunder gold and personally enrich herself) was "oppressed". Wilfully ignoring the actual historical power of women is one of the great harms of the patriarchy myth. Same for ignoring the lack of power that men often had. It's "black and white" thinking that's lacks any nuance, and it's wrong. Women are part o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/22 01:34 PM
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Also: No one is talking about how unfair it is to compare unpaid labour to paid labour. Even those who strongly assert that women do more unpaid labour then men have to admit that: 1) Men do more paid labour than women. 2) Paid vs unpaid labour is often an apples to oranges comparison. To be overly reductive: How many hours of working in a coal mine equals one hour of vacuuming? If a coal miner works 40 hours a week in the mines and does 10 hours a week of "housework" while his wife does 40 hour…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/22 09:19 PM
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I feel that the entire nature of the "unpaid labour" conversation is basically that a lot of women feel that "men have it better" / "women have it worse" and use the unpaid labour conversation to promote this narrative. To which I respond: Isn't one's overall happiness more important than tabulating "who does what" and "how often"? I feel that most studies that look into happiness/life satisfaction find that women are relatively happier than men. Why can't this be part of the unpaid labour discu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/22 09:04 PM
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The problem is the entire concept of "unpaid labour" = "housework". There are a shit-ton of unpaid labour types that do not qualify as "housework". Is responding to a work email when you're off the clock "housework"? Nope, but it is unpaid labour. Is commuting "housework"? Nope, but it is unpaid labour. If you're asking "how often in a typical household do men commute or email after hours" the answer is going to be "probably more than women". https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Commut…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/22 07:19 PM
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The kind of unpaid labour men do is different than the unpaid labour women do. Example: Men spend considerably more time commuting to work than women. https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/CommuteTime2018.png?x91208 If men work more hours, plus commute more hours, then maybe that should be accounted for in these kind of discussions. For example - where does "commuting time" fall in the following study - not under paid work, and not under housework. It must be counted as leisure time the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/22 06:54 PM
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"Honest question. How do they know women attempt suicide 2x more than men. " Honest answer: Who is "they"?
/r/MensRights04/01/22 01:14 AM
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This movie directly cemented my feelings on the inability of feminism to address the problems that men face and the legitimacy of men having their own rights movement. 1) The fact that the "women's advocates" she interviews were willing to fund her if she was doing a hit piece on men's rights activists but declined said funding when the director stated she would be objective speaks volumes about mainstream feminism and it's ability/willingness to help men. 2) The fact that people who had not eve…
/r/MensRights03/01/22 11:39 PM
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Are you saying that the reason you downvoted my original post is due to "swearing, aggressive behaviour and a general attitude problem"? Because none of that is in the OP. ... Or maybe for you pointing out that we don't live in a patriarchy is "a general attitude problem". Is that what you're saying?
/r/MensRights03/01/22 10:27 PM
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Your logic is weak. Here is your argument stripped of politics: Some countries have bunnies, some do not. Of the countries that have no bunnies, all are led by women. Therefor women are the cause of no bunnies. ... Surely there are factors at play in the anti-rabbit countries that alter the presence or absence of bunnies other than "women"?
/r/MensRights03/01/22 04:26 PM
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One of feminism's dirty little secrets is that a non-trivial percentage of people who oppose abortions are women. In Texas, for example, 46 percent of ALL FEMALE VOTERS oppose abortion. That's basically half. Half of all texans "condemn safe abortion", even the female ones. Are you telling me that if one of those abortion hating women was in charge they would make abortion legal? Of course not. Saying "if women were in charge abortion would be legal" is untrue at best, and quite possibly sexist …
/r/MensRights03/01/22 04:11 PM
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This is the perfect example of what I'm talking about. Motte and Bailey You cannot defend the notion that we live in a society where men oppress women (the bailey), so you instead point to the fact that most leaders are men and call that a patriarchy (the motte). I'm not trying to be a jerk, but you haven't made an argument, you've only pointed to facts. If your argument is that most leaders are men, and therefor we live in a patriarchy, then I would point out that most leaders are feminists and…
/r/MensRights03/01/22 03:47 PM
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I don't know you but you are talking like a crazy person. Is it not possible that a person can go to prison for a miscarriage and it not be a patriarchy? Like what about that makes our society one wherein men have "all the power" and women have "none of the power"? You admit that a non-trivial number of women oppose abortion, right?
/r/MensRights03/01/22 02:52 AM
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It also means that we don't live in a patriarchy and should stop describing our lived experiences as such.
/r/MensRights03/01/22 02:30 AM
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40% of female doctors drop out off the workforce within 6 years. That is an interesting statistic, to say the least: https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/why-women-leave-medicine
/r/MensRights10/12/21 07:05 PM
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https://quillette.com/2020/07/27/the-myth-of-pervasive-misogyny/
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:17 PM
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Here is one from my own life: Feminist: Only men explain things condescendingly due to sexism. That's why it's called "mansplaining". Me: I studied feminism at a post-secondary level. I'm pretty sure that women can explain things in a sexist way. Feminist: I haven't studied feminism in university, but let me tell you why you are wrong about this thing you have studied more than me. Me: How is what you are doing different than "manslaining"?
/r/MensRights29/11/21 12:56 AM
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It all depends on what you mean by "patriarchy". If we're talking systems that exist to promote male privilege at the expense of others... I don't even know where to start. How about "if we truly lived in a patriarchy, wouldn't child support and alimony be voluntary?" If men control everything then why do we pay alimony? If we don't control everything then why call it a patriarchy? If you're claiming that men only "mostly" control everything, then you're going to have to prove that, it's no long…
/r/MensRights29/11/21 12:43 AM
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In most of them, everyone is taught that women are the cause of sin Religions often teach contradictory things: Christianity is a Trinity worshipping monotheism... It is entirely possible that western religions both demonize and elevate women at the same time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect women were oppressed till recently In my western nation (Canada), female property owners could vote before poor males. Would it not be fair to say that discrimination happened along …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/21 03:23 AM
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Historical queens sent millions of men to die in battle against the wishes of those men. Should men today hold the women of today responsible because men were wronged in the past? If not, why is okay for women to do so?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/21 11:17 PM
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I highly disagree. If: a) running for office is a high-risk activity, and c) males are more likely to engage in high-risk activities. Then in a fair system there are going to be more men in office. Also consider the possibility that men tend to prioritize looks over status when selecting mates while women tend to prioritize status over looks. If that were true, men would be incentivized to maximize their status while women would be incentivized to maximize their appearance. When you look at the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/21 04:13 AM
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the feminist written Violence Against Women Act literally defines DV as something only men do to only women. I'm not sure if this sentence is factually accurate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_Against_Women_Act#Coverage_of_male_victims
/r/MensRights09/11/21 07:28 PM
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Thank-you good sir, or madam. That was kind.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/21 06:06 AM
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How would you suggest that a "just and fair" society achieves a 50/50 gender split in democratically elected officials? Equity is not equality, my friend.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/21 05:16 AM
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Nothing to say but that this is another great post. I love the alternating back and forth of "give the objective statistics/give the subjective reasons". Well-spoken and succinct is a rare treat in social media.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/21 04:02 AM
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The five questions are amazing. I've never come across this concept before.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/21 01:19 AM
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"So according to feminists, the patriarchy is responsible for putting mostly men in power" Here is something for you all to consider: In my country men pay significantly more for auto insurance than women. The reason most people think this is acceptable is because "men take more chances". This was the legal argument made by the insurance industries when this sexist policy was challenged in our courts. And our judiciary agreed. So... to summarize: Everyone agrees that men are biologically predisp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/21 01:05 AM
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"You can tell this is true, because see how most positions of power are held by men? Well that’s patriarchy" Anyone who advances this definition must be further questioned, because such a definition includes nothing about oppressing women. I mean, if 75% of politicians are men and 60% of politicians identify as feminists... By their own definition, that's a "feminist patriarchy". So... where is the injustice in that? ps - in my country more than 99% of politicians identify as supporting equal ri…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/21 12:47 AM
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What if was the case that nature creates an imbalance in the demand men have for sex and the supply of it available to them? Can one exploit a problem one didn't create, but nature did?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/21 10:22 PM
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The risk is that you can repeatedly spend an enormous amount of personal resources (money, time, reputation, sanity) and still never be elected.
/r/MensRights13/10/21 02:22 AM
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That just makes the whole insurance argument worse: Men use cars more so it's fair their insurance is higher? I kinda feel like the equivalent for women would then be: Women live longer so charging them more for health insurance is morally okay.
/r/MensRights13/10/21 02:13 AM
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Most DV is bi-directional, so if it went up for women it more than likely went up for men too.
/r/MensRights12/10/21 07:27 PM
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Where I live men pay more for auto insurance because they are men. When I ask my peers about it we all agree that the reason this is fair is because science says that men are massively more dispositioned to taking risks than women. You know what's a HUGE risk? Running for higher office, or starting your own business - both in terms of financial risk and the ego risk of being a failure. So to recap: men are more likely to take risks. Trying to be a CEO or political leader is risky. Hmmm. Why are …
/r/MensRights12/10/21 07:20 PM
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The only lie involved is that "feminism benefits men too" The longer I live the more I believe that my society is not a patriarchy, and hasn't been one for quite some time. To me, feminism propagates the lie that "we live in a world where men (as a class) oppress women (as a class)".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/21 01:23 AM
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I upvoted your top comment, but also: where I live feminism is popular enough for our elected officials to campaign on it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/21 01:20 AM
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"In 2018, the Southern Poverty Law Center categorized some men's rights groups as being part of a hate ideology under the umbrella of male supremacy while stating that others 'focused on legitimate grievances.'" Worth a read: https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/southern-poverty-law-center-splc/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/21 12:17 AM
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Karen Straughan's take on "true feminists" is fantastic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/21 10:47 PM
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Without this added context it does make men look bad. Why was this context left out of the article?
/r/MensRights27/07/21 07:40 PM
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I don't understand your comment, sorry.
/r/MensRights15/07/21 04:47 PM
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Patriarchy is "a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it." This is a poor description of my society. Where I live rich people hold the power and poor people are largely excluded from it. We don't live in a patriarchy, but the feminists here all say we do.
/r/MensRights15/07/21 12:20 PM
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Isn't the word "bitch" an example of the hateful gendered language that feminists are opposed to? I dare you to go to askfeminists and ask them if it's ever okay to use that word.
/r/MensRights15/07/21 11:48 AM
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Patriarchy is "a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it." This is a poor description of my society. Where I live rich people hold the power and poor people are largely excluded from it. We don't live in a patriarchy, but the feminists here all say we do.
/r/MensRights15/07/21 11:33 AM
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Okay. What's your definition of feminism then?
/r/MensRights15/07/21 11:25 AM
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All I’m doing is explaining that one very specific outlier example of men not having a choice doesn’t do much to criticise their much more general point So you support their general point? If yes, why not just say so? If not, why speak up?
/r/MensRights01/07/21 01:43 AM
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Not sure you're qualified to speak for OP. interesting that you have no doubts that you are. so, No Doubts, what is the point OP was making?
/r/MensRights01/07/21 01:13 AM
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The Goal-post is your statement that "men have never had their choices taken from them. I supplied evidence to contradict that claim. No goal-posts were moved, you're claim is just demonstrably false.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 06:04 PM
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in general, men have never had their choices taken from them? Tell that to the conscripted and drafted.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 05:10 PM
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We don't live in a patriarchy. According to your source: "Patriarchy is a social system in which men hold primary power and predominate in roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege and control of property" In my country (Canada), voters have the primary political power. Slightly more than half of all voters are women. In my country moral authority comes from individual citizens. Slightly more than half of all citizens are women. In my country, social privilege comes from w…
/r/AntiFeminists29/06/21 08:22 PM
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but the evidence for male supremacy and inequal treatment of women is OVERWHELMING Should be pretty easy to state your top three examples of this evidence then. What are your examples of such OVERWHELMING evidence?
/r/AntiFeminists29/06/21 08:06 PM
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most people living under the poverty line are women This is factually inaccurate where I live. About half of all people living in poverty are women. About half are men. "Women form the majority (about 53%) of people living in poverty in Canada. About 12% of all Canadian women and 11% of Canadian men live in poverty." Statistics Canada - Women in Canada: A Gender-based Statistical Report, p. 133
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/21 03:27 PM
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Non-rich populations like the homeless (that are mostly men)? Where are you going with this?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/21 02:11 AM
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So that's a great point and from what I understand many stats do take that into account Yeah. It's almost like rich people are the ruling class and half of them are women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/21 01:53 AM
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Most statistics that measure the wealth of individuals do not subtract the half of the wealth that their spouse owns, then again fail to add that owned half when evaluating the spouse. When you find listings of The Richest People you will always find Warren Buffett near the top. Why is he not tied on that list with his spouse?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/21 01:27 AM
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So... Closer to "50/50" than "mostly men" then. Cool. Me too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/21 01:19 AM
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When you look around your life: Which gender is wearing designer clothes? Which gender is driving expensive cars? Which gender is living in the nicest parts of town? Is it mostly men? Is it mostly women... ? ...or is it about 50/50?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/21 01:06 AM
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The primary attribute of the oppressing class isn't "male" it's "rich", and half of all rich people are women. When I went to askfeminists to get their take on this they went to hilarious extremes to try and counter this, with some even going so far as to state that wives aren't entitled to half of their husbands assets (so they weren't really rich). Feminists. Stating that divorcing women don't deserve half of the family assets. These people are totally unaware that they are practicing a religi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/21 09:57 PM
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This is a great explanation.
/r/MensRights21/06/21 09:02 PM
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That source you gave says that 53 percent of males have tried drugs while 44 percent of females have. and 20 percent of all males (12+ years old) have done drugs in the last year compared to 15 percent of females (12+ years old). That's one out of every 5 men and one out of every 7 women. So.... 95% of arrests being male seems quite disproportionate, don't you think? Also: Why did you call that Redditor an incel? Here is the source for your source (footnote 13 from you source): https://www.samhs…
/r/MensRights18/06/21 08:37 PM
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Can we please not link directly to these click-rage sites?
/r/MensRights11/06/21 05:45 AM
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Thanks for the links. Looks like I have some reading to do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/21 01:35 AM
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So true. The child custody gap? She spent time with the kids while he was working 50 hours a week.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/21 01:33 AM
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Curious. I'd appreciate a TLDR on what their guidelines for men and boys are, if you can spare the time. Google produces a 31 page document that's pretty jargon-heavy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/21 01:28 AM
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It's so nice to see a reasonable take on a gendered issue on reddit. I like this subreddit quite a bit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/21 09:52 PM
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Deleted because in the heat of the moment I mentioned personally identifiable stuff, and now regret that. Apologies.
/r/MensRights03/06/21 02:08 AM
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while "discover housework" sounds bad, I dont think it's as bad as you think That headline is exactly as bad as I think. I think it implies that men have been doing zero housework up until the pandemic. It's sexist. Imagine if The Guardian ran the following headline "An unexpected upside to lockdown: women have discovered yardwork".
/r/MensRights04/05/21 05:42 PM
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I just did a quick google search ("the guardian pandemic effects on men) Results: 1) lockdown upside: men "discover" housework. 2) women's wellbeing hurt harder than men's 3) coronavirus hits men harder 4) pandemic could alter parenting roles 5) economic fallout from pandemic will hit women hardest so: not so much. ps - men are just now "discovering" housework? that top search result is super sexist.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 05:12 PM
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I believe the reason that the title speaks about women (and not men) is that people are more likely to click on articles about the problems of women (than they are to click on gender-neutral or male specific problems). This is indicative of the whole "society cares about women and children/men are disposable" trend in western societies.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 04:59 PM
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"Women face significant jobs risk during Covid pandemic, UK analysis finds" The title is still biased. According to what you just quoted men also 'face significant jobs risk'. Why the gynocentrism?
/r/MensRights04/05/21 04:49 PM
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That's not how feminists define patriarchy. ASKFEMINISTS: "Patriarchy should not be conflated with "men." The Patriarchy is "a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/21 01:33 PM
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Im sure any non-american is tired of hearing about that loud-ass country. As a fellow resident of a commonwealth country (i saw that polarising "s") I wish that were the case. Sadly my co-workers cannot get enough of american celebrities and culture. Maybe I'm just bitter because I am unable to participate in their water-cooler discussions of "The Bachelor"...
/r/MensRights22/04/21 10:13 PM
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...very often when those politics are added to the subject they bring their polarising attitude of "them vs us" in the subject which is psychological pollution imo. All too true, sadly. I say "sadly" because I believe humans are genetically wired to be "us vs. them". You are right to guard against and gainsay such proclivities. Thanks for the elaboration.
/r/MensRights22/04/21 10:07 PM
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I don't understand your response to my comment. Would it be possible for you to elaborate?
/r/MensRights22/04/21 09:19 PM
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One of the central tenets of feminism is that first world nations are inherently misogynistic / biased against women. Here is a rebuttal to that hypothesis, complete with an abundance of sources. https://quillette.com/2020/07/27/the-myth-of-pervasive-misogyny/
/r/MensRights22/04/21 08:56 PM
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Men usually own business, what’s the issue? The issue is that the gender of the business owner should not be a consideration at all. This issue is that this encourages misandry. The issue is that well-meaning people (such as yourself) look at obvious misandry and can't see it as such. The issue is that society as a whole can't admit that misandry exists, or in cases where it does admit that, it doesn't care.
/r/MensRights22/04/21 12:24 AM
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Maybe. I kinda feel like one gender is predisposed to working with asbestos / breathing coal dust (etc.)> I kinda feek like this sane gender is also predisposed to vocations with more imitate risks (dismemberment/literal-death). So that might also explain the gender-based age (expectancy) gap.
/r/MensRights10/04/21 12:59 AM
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Health spending will be higher because women live significantly longer. https://www.statista.com/statistics/970699/life-expectancy-at-birth-in-germany-by-gender/
/r/MensRights09/04/21 12:09 PM
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Does anyone have proof this is real?
/r/MensRights25/02/21 03:41 AM
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How so?
/r/MensRights03/12/20 05:49 PM
2

I thought it was extremely well-spoken, bold text included.
/r/MensRights01/12/20 07:21 PM
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they hate the systemic discrimination that is deeply ingrained in our society and culture. What would you say are the top 3 ways that women are systemically discriminated against in Western Countries?
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/20 09:12 PM
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Understood.
/r/MensRights24/07/20 04:39 AM
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Looking back, I think you're right.
/r/MensRights24/07/20 04:38 AM
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I think a tolerant "ask mrm's" subreddit would be a good idea, but I don't have the bandwidth to initiate or maintain such a thing.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 04:16 PM
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