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I think you know the answer to that question, to the extent that I wonder what your agenda is in asking it. You need a radical culture shift in your lifestyle, do it now while you have a young person's metabolism.
/r/ExRedPill01/05/22 07:12 PM
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Agree, it takes a village to raise a child and too many of us fall through the cracks to some extent.
/r/ExRedPill28/04/22 01:30 PM
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Disagree. Anyone who assumes the other person will pay for them deserves the awkwardness!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:57 PM
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I've got to say, I'm all for splitting the bill but a bloke saying that before we even met would strike me as a bit stingy, realistically. Better go somewhere casual, just have a drink and throw it in when the bill arrives. Unless you think she's your dream girl in which case you're probably happy to just pay at that point, and she'll probably offer anyway if she's classy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 01:23 PM
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That would be seriously awkward though, in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 01:20 PM
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I'm female and I agree with this actually. Its a first date, you don't know the other person so you really don't know if they're "high quality" or whether you'll click or whatever. I have no problem with a first date being casual, low investment, low expectation. Then splash out on the 2nd date if you know you like the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 01:18 PM
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I don't understand- they both work the same amount of hours and chores at home and you're asking if he should work more to make it equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 07:32 AM
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Time for a break from PPD for you! These people and views don't reflect normal humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:13 AM
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Fair enough, although death from cancer, war or other illnesses that we can now cure would have still made a lot of marriages shorter, anyone who does genealogy can see that through their family history. They had very few option of divorce though for most of history so that still stands. The point is the divorce rate is no bad thing, people just didn't have the option in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:24 AM
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I said "most," not "all," and presuming these women charged more than the average brothel of trafficked women, my point absolutely still stands. I really liked hearing about your friends, good for them and all the best to them! And no ill will to the men who paid for a service they needed, freely sold.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:18 AM
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OK but in the context of the OP...your tomato garden is irrelevant. Sex may be a commodity in some situations but for most people it isn't, they just want someone to partner through life with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:13 PM
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Nice alliteration lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:38 PM
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No...its the same as everyone else who isn't a firefighter, which is most people. Your point is a load of nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:36 PM
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How are we not? Our hormones make us slightly different, across the whole population. Different but equal. In harmony! Easy peasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:24 PM
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I mean most men are looking for a partner to spend their life with, after a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:22 PM
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I really don't get what you are talking about. They pay tax like everyone else and fund firefighters? It seems like you're implying that only sexists and misogyniats work as firefighters? It's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:20 PM
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I'm not sure RPers even agree on that, never mind the whole sub. I am a woman, I get horny and I like sex, it most certainly isn't a commodity I exchange for resources, not at all and never has been. So you're dead wrong about that. Of course attractiveness matters but it matters both ways. So a young hot woman is going to be looking for a young hot man, generally. The divorce rate, that's a whole other debate and not really linked to the OP. I mean throughout the history of marriage life expect…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:18 PM
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Well...men are stronger so that kinda makes sense, the same goes for more 'caring' professions which seem to be more dominated by women...I don't see a problem and I don't see the relevance to the discussion. In fact the 'feminist life partner' situation is almost a microcosm of this situation you describe of men and women gravitating towards different roles. So a wife might be a nurse or teacher and a man might be a builder or firefighter. They both contribute to the relationship and they both …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:11 PM
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Oh yes that common everyday situation that inevitably comes up in most relationships/s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:06 PM
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I am, however I think most normal men would agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:05 PM
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Brilliant, bot
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:22 AM
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This is nonsense because you are thinking of sex with women as a commodity, when in real life most adults are looking for a partner to spend their life with, not to "buy" access to a vagina to thrust their dick into for a few minutes. Most 40 year old men for example mostly want a nice partner to go through life with, they aren't buying a shag. For those who literally are looking to buy a shag with a hot woman, the market forces you describe are probably accurate, I imagine, ie, you probably pay…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:19 AM
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Well you gonna show us so we can give you an informed opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:08 AM
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8 years ago, Plenty of Fish.com. I sent the first message, it was his first date since moving cities, now married with 2 kids. Boyfriend before that- pre smartphones, pre modern Internet, met him at work lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:24 AM
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What nonsense. The reason there are so many contraceptive methods is because they all suck one way or the other. Most women know the horror of a late period, and a hasty pregnancy test.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/22 12:59 PM
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You mean Americans getting circumcised? Yeah that's weird and barbaric and should stop. Very much just USA and religious groups though, not a punishment for existing for all men. The second thing, no you don't. Nobody getting imprisoned or ostracised bc they didnt sacrifice their life for the comfort of women. Unless you have an example which was my question in the first place? The only point you've made is that you're grasping at straws. You should probably get off the Internet for a while. Sor…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:07 PM
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What punishments do you face for existing? And what are women putting into it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:53 PM
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I'm a pro choice European (relevant bc it isnt a political issue here) and don't think I could have gone through with an abortion earlier in life back when I wanted more kids. (I'd do it in a heartbeat now I've got 3 kids though.) It isn't only conservatives unwilling to abort, its a heartbreaking decision for 99% of women which will affect them for the rest of their lives. (Doesn't mean we oppose them being normal healthcare though, Americans are batshit)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:54 AM
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Main, ugly, honest answer- tick tick, biological clock. When women's clock is ticking loudly and we haven't found Mr Right, sometimes we go for Mr Right Now. My middle child was an accident, ultimately I kept him because I was 30, have PCOS, and so it might have been my last chance. It was a fairly new relationship so a gamble on the man, thankfully we made it work and are married now but it could have gone the other way. I think sometimes we are naive or optimistic, we have kids with someone be…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:45 AM
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I think you are me, couldn't have put any of it better!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 12:07 PM

I think this is a bit oversimplified. To counter your argument about gaming, (which I love in moderation btw) perhaps a lot of these women who aren't seeking, previously had boyfriends, but after the novelty wore off he ignored her to do gaming. Perhaps he was copying porn in the bedroom putting her off sex. In this (common) scenario the obsessive gaming and general shittiness etc has led to fewer women in the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 09:53 AM
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Having a baby without it derailing their whole life and career.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:31 AM
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Not really, in a healthy relationship I think its nice for both to initiate. Gender relations are complex and nuanced though, and there is a trope, which I often see propounded here, that men are hornier than women. It therefore feels quite unsexy as a woman to be initiating all the time, it feels like you're not desired. Same the other way around, but more so for women given the cultural/ perhaps natural trope of men wanting more sex. Therefore I wouldn't like initiating all the time and believ…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:46 AM
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You're welcome. I think when you click with someone it will all be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:38 AM
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20 is not that old, so I wouldn't find it that strange. I suppose I'd wonder whether they suffered from shyness or anxiety, and if they were unable to initiate for whatever reason I wouldn't like that very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:19 PM
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I guess it's conceivable that a nice, feminine, gentle and kind woman could have been taken advantage of in the past, learned to avoid narcissists better from reading FDS, so when she meets you she knows she has found a HVM and truly appreciates you and tries her hardest to make it work, without letting go of her boundaries?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:08 AM
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Generally it would be such a red flag, if he didn't find red pill hilariously sexist and ridiculous he would be totally incompatible with me. However, the way FDS is seen from the outside has softened this a little. I disagree with some of what they say, but it's a message some girls needed to hear. I can see how the group's enemies define it by its most batshit extreme members. I have probably done the same with TRP. So, if there was a guy who for example used to put all women on a giant pedest…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:47 AM
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Hmm, I would think slim, beautiful, but also great personality, and yeah probably no kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 10:25 PM
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Wow never heard of that before, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:53 AM
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Well there you go, a simple question with a simple answer. In my case, guy #1 was not hotter, of course I want the hotter guy to be my boyfriend/husband. What he has that you don't? Absolutely nothing, except a lack of risk of having feelings hurt. At the end of the day if the hunch is correct and guy #2 likes me back, we both stand to gain a lot from, as you say, waiting a while which I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:53 AM
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It isn't consistent. As I said, I get flooded with hormones etc if I really like someone. Its like an instant infatuation and obviously won't happen with someone I'm not that into. In the rare situation, which only actually occurred a couple of times when I was single, that I was on a date with someone OK but I knew they weren't for me but I was horny, it was 'safe' to get my end away without intense feelings. It's not because they were hotter or irresistible, not by a very long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:48 AM
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I think mostly the last one, I haven't really seen this from either sex. Probably happens with both sexes around the same amount when it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:43 PM
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Going round in circles now, but basically to protect my feelings. If I'm falling for someone I don't want to get flooded with hormones and go head over heels before I'm certain they are on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:24 AM
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Thankyou for your time and well thought out answer, but at the end of the day, why shouldn't I just have sex when I want to and not have sex when I don't want to? It's a rhetorical question, that's what we'll obviously do, but why feel the need to dictate to women about 'inconsistent standards' etc on something as trivial as whether to wait a week or not before having sex? When we are looking after our own needs and interests?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:21 AM
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Agree with you there, it would definitely weed out the dated misogynists. There's more to it for me. Having sex changes a relationship drastically. I can get flooded with hormones and basically become head over heels, if I had strong feelings I wouldn't want that before we got to know each other. Men tend to fall for me after they get to know me so it just puts me in a vulnerable position for no reason if we do it too soon. Better to wait a little while, even just a week or so you kind of know w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:36 PM
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Men aren't slut shamed historically, women have had the Madonna whore complex to deal with for centuries. Ita wrong, but it exists. So hypocritical how RP guys are the most slut shamey and yet also opposed to the logical consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:36 PM
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Lmao the impact of my actions are exactly whether a man gets sex or not. So what nobody expects guaranteed sex when they go on a date! Reasonable people understand you dont always rush in when you like someone, it would be foolish and harmful. It seems like you guys just want women to act against our own interests, which is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:33 PM
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Not sure what your point is, I'm not for shaming anyone but you seem obsessed with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:32 PM
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You've written a load of immature nonsense about Chad's (never met one, it's pretty much a teenage boys fantasy construct,) and weird gripes fuelled by reddit. Most people just want to find a partner. I haven't seen any cheating amongst any of my friends, and when I've heard of dead bedrooms it was because of major issues in a bad relationship, and down to the man not wanting sex anyway. I'm convinced that the female deadbedroom cases, the man is usually a pathetic manchild who has turned his wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:22 PM
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It is if they want a relationship too- what's waiting a few dates if you're going to have years of sex and happiness ahead? I think most normal people are cool with that dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:44 PM
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Firstly, not new, been munching popcorn here for about 7 years under a few accounts. It's not just about being seen as easy. Any bloke with those values is trash anyway. When I have sex with someone i like, I can get flooded with hormones and just fall head over heels, having sex changes things so it is an unnecessary risk to do that with someone I like. No risk if they're not for me. It's logical. Any man worth his salt can understand this simple dynamic. Like you, I really value honesty and wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:26 AM
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Why guess? I don't know these people. I am incapable of internalising that. I am not placing him in an inferior position. If he likes me too we are going to have a lot more sex in the future. It's called delayed gratification. If you red pill babies crying because you want sex ASAP at all times don't like it, then you need to stop slut shaming and banging on about n counts and such bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:42 AM
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Agree you should only be with someone because you want to, with the caveat that if you choose to have kids together then there's an obligation to make a good go of it if you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:27 AM
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Is what you said supposed to be linked to this comment in some way? I can't see any link between not having sex with someone you like straight away, and love and marriage being a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:25 AM
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Never said men bad, however it is slut shaming that has brought this situation about. You reap what you sow here. And yeah, if you don't want a relationship with someone then you shouldn't stick around, unless you have kids or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:23 AM
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A) wasn't a bad decision, she had sex that she wanted B) Shenington treating anybody worse, she's treating them correctly and logically according to the situation. C) regular casual sex, see point A D) Because this is completely normal behaviour? If he's a misogynist I guess she just won't tell him about the sex, if he's normal then he will understand and won't mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:07 AM
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No, because we also like having sex rather than distribute it to the deserving like scooby snacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:03 AM
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Thankyou for phrasing this from the man's point of view, rather than making the stupid assumptions that it means she is less attracted to the man or sees him as some kind of less-than. Yes, Slug shaming is stupid and illogical and leads to wacky behaviour. Hope the RPers reading this can piece two and two together and stop bleating about n counts and other slut shamey bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:02 AM
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Except it isn't because one is having sex and the other is spending money on a date! Which are very very different!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:59 AM
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Hallelujah thankyou the voice of reason
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:58 AM
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Yes but she wouldn't be wanting or expecting a relationship from Chad so...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:57 AM
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OK, this never goes down well but here we go again. Try to understand. We dont "give," you sex, it isn't a "reward." We have physical needs too. If you can wrap your head around that, then it follows that we might have sex with someone cute but not boyfriend material flippantly. But obviously, dating mechanics being how they are, we aren't going to risk it with someone we definitely want to see again. I can go into more detail why if you want. Ita perfectly logical as long as you don't see women…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:56 AM
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Ugh, this AGAIN. Try to understand. We dont "give," you sex, it isn't a "reward." We have physical needs too. If you can wrap your head around that, then it follows that we might have sex with someone cute but not boyfriend material flippantly. But obviously, dating mechanics being how they are, we aren't going to risk it with someone we definitely want to see again. Ita perfectly logical as long as you don't see women as vapid sex receptacles who dish out sex on reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:53 AM
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Just be honest, would be my preference
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:39 AM
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I couldn't believe my luck when I stumbled across the red pill- you can actually look into the heads of toxic misogynists! Gory fascination. And on here you get to argue with them and put your point of view accross, and see first hand how flawed their logical processes are. I mostly feel sorry for them and glad they have little real interaction with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:11 AM
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It's removed now so can't quote it but he'd said something about thinking he'd dodged the question but she kept bringing it up and wouldn't meet. He was hoping his rp amused mastery would allow him to have his cake and eat it, barf
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:23 PM
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Yes, exactly well put
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:22 PM
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Well, the whole feel of everything OP wrote. The guy imagines himself having loads of options, hook ups and 'plates' (vomit) and this super hot girl has hooked up with him too, even though she wants commitment. He's all swerving the question like he's in Mad Men and OP makes out like red pill makes you able to manipulate women rather than just repulse them. It's like some dudes fantasy of how life is for Alpha Chad or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:51 PM
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This situation sounds like a basement dwellers fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:43 PM
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I don't think it would make a great difference, I think the bog differential is women having the womb- risk of pregnancy, drastic life changes wrought by motherhood, biological clock ticking...Strength is less than 1% as dynamic- changing as being the sex who gets pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:07 PM
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Oh you're amazing. You were contradicting yourself about how many matches fat girls v fat guys get on dating apps up the thread. And no you're the fatty!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 09:09 AM
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I disagree about the birth rates, FDS is so new and niche, birth rates have been falling for decades. I think its like any online group, the most extreme voices are the loudest and go way, way too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 09:39 PM
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Ah, I missed that apologies
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 09:37 PM

I guess anyone who goes along with the 'no coffee dates' thing is going to rule out a load of decent men who don't want to invest loads on a first date... I can't believe this works for anyone let alone the 'bottom' 90% of women. So they're kind of taking themselves out of the economy really.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:53 PM
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Wha?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:50 PM
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Basically, yes. I'm female but used to have high testosterone, it definitely makes you more desperately horny and I think makes you want to fuck harder and dirtier.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:01 PM
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Oh Christ are you a qanon lizard people person? Is climate change fake and JFK is coming back?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:51 PM
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Oh gosh do you think that saying this implies hatred of men? It really doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:18 PM
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Yes, thankyou for quoting the fact that I didn't say I hate men by any measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:59 PM
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Have you heard of climate change? We need fewer babies not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:58 PM
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Who said all men are violent? Certainly not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:05 PM
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Repeat after me: this isn't a problem! Obviously poorer people would be most incentived, OP was talking about going to the extreme lengths of basically enslaving half of humanity to raise fertility so in the unlikely scenario that we wanted to raise fertility I'm assuming we wouldn't be fussy who was having the babies. It isn't a problem, it isn't an economic problem by extension.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:05 PM
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Yeah I don't see a problem in falling fertility rates, in fact they are essential to combat climate change long term. There will be an economic squeeze as the demographic tips but that's nothing compared to the disaster of eternal growth. If you did want higher fertility, the only way is not to 'take away women's rights.' That reeks of manosphere fantasy to me. The obvious way to do it would be financial incentives- generous child support payments on top of free healthcare and paid maternity lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:03 PM
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I don't hate men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:34 PM
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I have plenty of empathy for men's genuine problems. Genital mutilation is horrendous and wrong. Men still have expectations placed on them which haven't been as challenged as the ones traditionally on women, etc etc. Claiming that women are super privileged compared to men is evidently false though. I guess it's the way it was put in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:34 PM
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Oh come off it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:15 AM
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This is a really good question. I suppose the answer is nuanced like anything complex, but basically equality of opportunity and if the outcome is skewed we need to examine why. We have equality on paper but not in our culture. And I think a lot of the inequality comes from the biological fact of women carrying babies. You can't remove that inequality, but you can make 'reasonable adjustments.' A vital example is the cultural norm that women often go part time after becoming a parent, but men st…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:13 AM
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I agree with that. I don't think it fully explains the huge disparity of men and women in leadership positions, after all there are plenty of competitive women and women who excel at leadership. Most family households are unofficially run by the woman in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:33 PM

Together with everything else we know about human history with regards to the sexes it proves, or att least clearly demonstrates, that we do not yet have anything close to equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:29 PM

Its very dangerous to discount the unbalance in perpetrators of rape and DV. The vast majority of those crimes are male on female. I'm with you ion the genital mutilation, it is totally unacceptable and should be illegal but I don't see the relevance to the discussion. I suspect lots of men and women are opposed to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:08 PM

Dude if men are so oppressed why are so many world leaders and leading politicians male? Managing directors, CEO's? You're ignoring the very obvious evidence in favour of bizarre nut-picked examples to support your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:04 PM
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The fact that RP men don't want to date women with high n counts. For so many reasons- grown ups don't keep count anyway, sexually liberated women probably don't want to date misogynists, all women are better off without a RP man, none of it affects me because I am married anyway... still the hypocritical attitude gets me riled up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:07 PM
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This is the right answer. Someone with this attitude needs to be dumped. As it is it took a long time for me and my husband to marry because we had kids and needed to save to get a big enough house. Once you have a mortgage and kids it's not really much extra commitment, it wasn't that big a deal whether we got married or not. If I was in the US with the dystopian healthcare system it would obviously matter a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:59 AM
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Lolled, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:05 AM
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If I'd been alone for the past 25 years I'd be a whole lot more fucked up than I am now. I've effectively had one divorce in that time and it didn't fuck me up, I don't regret my oldest son and have loved every moment with that boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:53 PM
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Totally shit analogy. I'm enjoying life right now, if divorce happened later I wouldn't regret the happiness now. A more similar analogy would be, if you enjoy parachuting but you might not enjoy it altering life, should you still do the thing you enjoy right now while you enjoy it? Just stop doing it when you want to I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:51 PM
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Yup, how I envy them alone in their basements from my cosy married life with regular sex, companionship and adorable children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:52 PM
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Jeez, reread the thread. It is common sense that looks matter and they have always mattered. We both seem to agree on that, bit you seem to be arguing that people affiliated with blue pill at some point in the past claimed that the literally didn't matter at all, which makes no sense and it's a silly position to hold. Good day sir that's enough! Try going outside and getting off the Internet if you've got nothing better to do that tell people that someone else had a nonsense opinion that neither…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:37 AM
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Is it irrelevant to you that what you are saying makes absolutely no sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:30 PM
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I disagree. Been coming on here about 7 years and never seen any such claim. Looks have always mattered, its bloody obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:38 PM
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Yes, so looks matter at least some. I think the OP is answered in our conversation. Why is it mostly red pillers? Because you find yourself having ridiculous debates about whether the obvious fact that looks matter is some kind of red pill truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:10 AM
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Personality doesn't matter is a pretty extreme position, and I disagree completely. There is probably a very small niche of Trump/Melania situations where a woman puts up with a shit personality for immense wealth, I think its the dynamic when you slay in Thailand frankly, but outside that toxic minority of course Personality matters. 20% is a huge chunk of humanity, you think that many married women didn't try to find a man who's Personality they liked? We've all been raised to look for 'true l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 08:56 AM
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By that metric, breathing to stay alive is a red pill concept. Water is wet- red pill concept. There is a gaping flaw in your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 08:11 AM
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Buuuuuullshit. People have always been attracted to attractive people, looks have always mattered, so has personality ita common sense. I've been to Thailiand too, I don't think you can learn anything about Western gender politics by visiting a country with a totally different culture where you arrive with immense privilege. I'm not judging, but you can arrive in Thailand a fat red smelly 65 year old and have a hot girlfriend on the first day, it's irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 08:08 AM
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I think you're getting confused between "they don't matter," and "they don't matter very much."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 08:05 AM
-1

Well no because nobody is in a hive mind, it matters more to some people than others, to some age groups more than others, in some situations more than others... its absurd to claim that there would ever be a concensus on that, just devoid of common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:24 AM
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Been here many years, even in your example looks matter, at least a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:17 AM
0

Seriously of course looks have always mattered. That goes back to prehistory it's not a red pill concept. In no universe is "do looks matter" a debate for PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:47 PM
1

I think a lot of red pill men are in a bad place and this is a way they vent, whereas blue pilled, certainly me, we just drop in for a laugh at the misogynists, we are not as obsessed or invested imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:42 PM
-1

Hahaha lol no
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:37 PM
1

It's just old fashioned madonna/whore slutshaming and male hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 01:21 PM
2

I was single for about a year, married with two more kids now. Red pill tears. Collected some benefits during that time but not housing as I have a mortgage. It wasn't really about great sex, it was about being a bit codependant and scared I wouldn't find anyone else and issues from my childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:30 PM
1

Don't think I've ever really known one, although some friends had phases when they were young. I find it very impressive, you have to overcome a lot of programming to get to that level of comfort sleeping around. The truth is there are times when I was single I was horny and would have liked to live like that for a while, bit I'm quite tall and wide and men just don't see me that way. So So guess I'm jealous that they're hot enough, and impressed by the confidence. If they were doing it because …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 06:58 AM
1

I'm not actually a single mother, though I was for a while 8 years ago. I certainly try to be a good person. Not sure what any of that has to do with this discussion about men being ill equipped though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:04 AM
1

Oh I had a whole raft of issues leading to the bad decision, looking back in retrospect. But yeah, it started with a crush and great sex. He was my fiance, wasn't still with the previous mama, but I was still an insecure dumbass to think it was better to have a baby in that flawed relationship for fear that if I started all over again I might never get to be a mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 10:31 PM
2

Never said I was. Be better for everyone if they would though, and I do want what's best for people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:11 PM
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It's not terrible advice, wish I'd heard it before my eldest was conceived to a man 12 years older with kids lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:56 PM
4

I agree with the basic premise if not the bs about women creating the fire and needing to be saved. Men really aren't equipped and this is reflected in justnoSO every day with the hordes of manchildren failing to pull their weight or do the minimum of fatherhood. Also the pornsick, selfish losers being described in anecdotes over on FDS. A lot of men need to grow up and take more responsibility for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:53 PM
1

Bollocks. People are young then sometimes they settle down. Everybody us different, there is no sinister conspiracy and anyone who wastes energy unironically entertaining notions like AF/BB needs to get off the Internet and get a life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:01 PM
7

90%? Utter nonsense. Most people are in normal relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 08:28 PM
2

There is still a lot of work despite appliances, which came in decades ago so are completely irrelevant to the debate and quite bizarre for you to bring up really. Plus back in those days women often didn't work. Lots of women today are doing all of the shopping, cooking, cleaning up, loading the dishwasher and doing dishes, cleaning, ferrying children around, family obligations, arranging family life and mental load of running family life, while the man coasts along working and gaming. There ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:57 PM
1

Yes of course this isn't 1950.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 12:21 PM
0

Shit deal? She's awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 07:57 PM
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Actually I think you're dead wrong. She's got her house, she's got her kids, she will be looking for someone to add fun and happiness to her life. Compare that to a woman in her late 30's with no kids, who are (often) going to be wanting kids ASAP. Which can often be said all the way back to late 20's. Wrong about the n count too. IME low n count people are more likely to have a low sex drive, or alternately they could have been in one longer relationship with no breaks in which case you don't k…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 07:54 PM
6

I remember the advice his colleague gives him to find the most drunk girl in the club, like falling over with sick in her hair. Pretty sure that gets called rape now!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 07:49 PM
1

On just no SO we see a lot of men who also do absolutely nothing. You get lazy entitled arseholes and enablers of both sexes. The person you describe is clearly awful but in my experience the balance of women doing paid work and an unfair proportion of childcare and chores is far higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 02:21 PM
11

Yes you certainly do. Do they even realise how ridiculous they sound?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:31 AM
21

Wait a minute, can you see no medium ground between women being locked up and enslaved and literally hidden from everyone except their family, and sluts who get gangbanged in public? How stupid, because most women on the planet live in the middle ground. Are you actually suggesting that liberated Western women, are less happy than the virtual slaves in Taliban Afghanistan, kept hidden until they can be sold in marriage to some guy who rapes boys? Pfft.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 06:35 AM
2

My thoughts are it goes to show how messed up a society can get by illogical religious thought and widespread slavery and oppression. Men have evolved horny to try to spread their seed and procreate the species. And in terms of caveman evolution most men are attracted to women. You massively enslave and oppress women and essentially remove women from society and this awful, fucked up situation has occurred. How absolutely horrific. And no, that doesn't mean men are entitled to sex with women but…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 06:28 AM
1

I dunno that's why I was curious to see if any answered OP's question! It got bogged down with trans stuff though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 03:42 PM
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You really can't pigeonhole everybody same sex attracted or gender nonconforming into the same political box, surely. Although I think there is a greater leaning towards empathy and rejection of Conservative religious values because LGBT people have historically (and currently in the USA) been oppressed and rejected by the Conservative right. There are a few right wing LGBT YouTubers who I really like and agree with, though I'm a traditional leftie myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 12:45 PM
2

Never seen any evidence of transphobia on FDS at all. By your unironic use of the use of the slur 'Terf' I suspect you hold any common sense view about biological sex as anti-trans. Unlike most actual Trans people, who are the most harmed by these nonsense extremist views.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 11:33 AM
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F, 39, I was 17 and he wasn't my boyfriend, we had met in a club and been hanging out for 2 weeks or so, I had been desperatley masturbating 4 times a day since the age of 12 so had just been waiting for the situation to come about when I could finally do it with someone. I felt like my first time couldn't be a one night stand, I was waiting for an excuse. We pretty much stopped hanging out afterwards because he bragged about it in the men's toilets in a club the next day, my friend told me and …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:25 AM
10

Who is this, the gestapo? Yes I am indeed guilty of wrongthink throw me in the gulag with her holiness JK Rowling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:16 AM
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It's outrageous isn't it! So incredibly sexist and one sided. I agree with banning any actual transphobia but women should be able to discuss their beliefs about biological sex and gender, given all the other shit on reddit. I keep waiting for reddit to come to its senses. Why on earth would detrans be banned? I find I read the most balanced views on the topic there, anyone embarking on hormones should have to scroll it for a year or two first I think ;) I got banned from feminism for saying bio…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 02:53 AM
1

I'd be interested if there was any similarity with FDS about paying for dates/ commitment before sex/ all that fds stuff within gay relationships. I have no idea some of it might be relevant some not? Are their any similar rules to find a high value partner I wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 02:42 AM
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I think the ones who had severe mental issues as teens around their body were anorexic, bulimic or self harmed back in the day. The Internet didn't exist to offer this option where you can escape your self-hate and be warmly welcomed/groomed by an exciting online community.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 02:39 AM
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Yep. I didn't want to name it because reddit tends to ban people and subs that make reference to the existence of biological sex in this context, also I just don't think it was what OP was asking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 02:27 AM
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I was curious to hear the answer but it looks like it just got dominated by the same issue lesbians keep finding themselves at the sharp end of. The issue that Reddit normally takes a very extremist stance on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 08:07 PM
9

Go check out the deep thoughts of Rachael mcKinnon or whatever her name is now
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 08:02 PM
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A) no they don't. I have a high sex drive, no sex buffet has ever presented itself even when I was doing OLD. Hot guys are chasing hot girls. Even with average guys, often we just didn't click and neither if us wanted sex with each other. B) It's somewhat of a big deal to me, I wish my husband had a higher sex drive to match mine. I think you misunderstood me as some woman who has gone off sex, not the case. However its not such a big deal that I sit making posts on PPD about how some people are…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 11:22 PM
1

As soon as I read about average women having sex with hot guys on tap 24/7 I just think, what a load of absolute garbage. Total bullshit. I'm at least average and when I was single yes I probably had an easier time getting dates than men but not with people more attractive than me- hot guys are going for hot girls why shouldn't they? Its fair and logical. Its never going to be "just like," because there is a different dynamic. But most average people spend most of their time in relationships, am…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 10:58 PM
2

I have weirdly traditional views about this. I think fucking takes your virginity, so either pinv or anal I think the act of sticking a dick in and thrusting it a bit is sex. Oral doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:19 PM
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I cant respect someone who makes a judgement about someone else's opinion before actually reading/hearing it, so scared that your worldview might be challenged that you won't dare to read it. Its like a religious person killing scientists in case they challenge their worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:16 PM
2

What's the point? You read the first sentence about nagging being sexist and then didnt read any more. You won't engage so no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 07:40 PM
2

If you ever get married you will 100% divorce lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 07:08 PM
1

I'm nearly 40, my guess is around 15 but I honestly don't know, it seems like an immature thing to count and be concerned with. I've been in 2 long relationships most of my life, so there was just a few years before and between where I had sex with a few people after a few dates and one or two ONS. They meant nothing so it would be a real effort to remember who they were or how many. The thing is, it speaks nothing to my values or personality. I've never been fat but I've always struggled to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 07:45 AM
1

When I was a teen we knew a guy and we giggled and called him the arse bandit because he...giggle...tried to do girls in the bum, shock horror! It was basically an urban legend. No normal straight people were doing anal. This was around 1998, most people didn't have Internet access and it certainly wasn't on phones. Its totally the porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:22 PM
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I can't see how they're connected at all maybe you misread the comment and the one it replies to? I hate the term 'nagging,' it is sexist and seems designed to oppress women and shut them down. I read so many accounts of lazy men not doing anywhere near their fair share of housework and parenting, and I suspect these are the men accusing their partners of 'nagging' when they voice their legitimate complaints. I hear about it all the time in real life too. Honestly no idea how that's remotely con…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:27 PM
2

Lol til not being able to pressure someone into pain is stripping a man of his dignity, that's some sick entitlement you got there. Well sorry to say I got married this year, a post wall single Mum in my late thirties no less. To a man who wouldn't pressure me into physical pain it's dystopian isn't it! Red pill tears!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:21 PM
3

Absolutely disgusting. I hope you never actually manage to pressure anybody into unwanted physical pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:29 PM
0

That's a no from me dawg
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:32 PM
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We are talking about physical pain and risk of medical conditions like fissures, I don't think you can compare that to 'nagging.' It's a whole other topic but in most cases the nagging is to get a guy to pull his weight and treat her with respect, not indulge her in something unreasonable. And if the 'nagging' was to indulge her in doing something that caused him physical pain with no benefit to himself then that 'pressure' would be equally toxic and horrible. You also sound like you think press…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:28 PM
3

Re read the OP- she doesn't like it. Most of us don't. I'm old enough that before widespread Internet porn, it was something gay men did and most of us shuddered at the thought of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:48 AM
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No such thing what utter nonsense. You people could find that conclusion in pretty much any of your flawed analogies. So teenagers doing low paid jobs equals 'alpha fucks'? Ridiculous and pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:47 PM
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By that same analogy people change. I did cleaning and bar jobs as a teenager, but would never want to work nights or uncomfortable on my feet now I'm in my late thirties. Yet they could be on my CV because I did them in the past. I value and enjoy different things now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:35 PM
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Morning ladies! In todays episode of what object am I, we are designer bags! This somehow relates to coerced anal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:30 PM
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Let me get this straight- Are you saying it's good to pressure women into anal sex if they don't like it? The text reads as if coerced anal as something for men to aspire to? That's really horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:28 PM
1

In the context of the comment we are both replying to though...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:30 PM
0

Who the hell wants Chad? No woman I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:28 PM
3

Not from what I've seen. I think m or f if you get fat you won't look good as you age, but if you stay fit then you will. Women have more options to enhance hair and makeup, if a guy goes bald there isn't much he can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:26 PM
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Female, blue pill, absolutely agree. No point investing in someone who you might realise you don't click with after 3 seconds. I like a lot of FDS but this is one of the things I really disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 09:54 AM
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Yes, while I agree that those things probably bode well for both sexes, they are out of the person's control so you'd be a right arse to overlook people just because they have one crap parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:54 PM
1

I haven't seen mistreatment of women who dont agree, transphobia or objectification or any of what you said. I'm intrigued by the transphobia comment, as they've been noticeably silent on that one from what I've seen, despite women's sex based rights being trampled into the mud by reddit generally. Do tell!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:02 PM
2

I'm female and I've really enjoyed reading FDS and a lot of what they say. Two things that aren't for me though, is the attitude the attitude sex and money. I have a high sex drive, I don't want to go for months without sex. I shouldn't have to. I fully support women who want to do that but I don't, and I don't think it has harmed my relationships to have sex fairly early on, or to have casual sex between relationships. One size doesn't fit all and I don't think I should have to deny myself an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 09:20 AM
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I think the situation you describe is tragic and one of the most evil things a woman can do to a man. Not sure if you could litigate but it should at least be a form of fraud if you let them sign a birth certificate. If I were the man I guess it would depend on my relationship whether I stayed with her, I'd keep contact with the child because they're the same as an adopted child at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:19 PM
1

I think, especially in America, people are time poor and depend on processed food and it is full of sugar and awful things like cornstarch, which i read if you eat it over time your body is even more likely to retain fat. The entire food industry just really stacks it against us because it is run for profit. I think sugar is so addictive and should be highly taxed like cigarettes and the proceeds funnelled into fruit, veg and healthy food. Also there should only be healthy food in schools and lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:32 PM
1

Yeah I think women got that message loud and clear but thankyou for spelling it out in case anybody missed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 06:45 AM
4

Slim, slim, slim, slim, pretty nice kind SLIM
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 02:51 PM
4

I guess natural alpha versus a try hard? I don't see what's wrong with having improved yourself, but I guess she got a bad vibe off him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 08:02 AM
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It's a bit of a leap to assume that a woman who slept with more than 5 people can't be loyal. Also offensive and absurd. My number is quite low but only because I've never really been 'hot,' it says nothing about my personality. And I would never cheat on anyone because that's a whole other thing. OK, a virginal woman with no sex drive is especially less likely to cheat if she has no interest in sex, by all means seek that out if that's your thing but people are going to think you're an arsehole…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 11:11 AM
1

Avoiding abusers to corrective rape? Well that escalated quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 09:24 AM
1

I think their literal aim is to avoid bad relationships and find a good one actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:46 AM
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God no. Absolute clash of values, I couldn't connect with someone who was sexist and couldn't see through hypocritocal flawed logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 07:21 PM
1

Blue pill woman Men- marry a woman who you click with who really enjoys sex. Hint- if she masturbates and has done since being a teenager then you know she really likes sex. Women- get really fucking thin so everyone wants you, then don't settle. Disclaimer- I'm a greedy impulsive bastard who didn't follow my own advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 05:58 PM
11

Well partly because some men are falling down mysogynistic Internet hate-holes like RP and turning themselves undateable!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:05 PM
3

Wtf? Red pill is sex positive for men and absolutely not for women. Its the diametric opposite of sex positive. I think the dude meant he doesn't shut shame like red pill men do, furthermore red pill is clearly always drawing a distinction between Madonnas and whores, in the confusing and contradictory way that they want Madonnas to become whores for them. You can't generalise about blue pill guys because blue pill encompasses everybody who is not red pill. Its a ridiculous notion that everyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 12:36 PM
2

Have you heard of climate change?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:34 AM
1

It's only a red flag because it alerts you to wondering why the man is still a virgin- what's the issue causing that because most men get Horny and don't have the social pressure that women get not to have sex so you wonder why they are a virgin. I don't think anybody has a problem with the virginity itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:59 AM
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I neither transphobuc, radical feminist nor trans exlusionary and have said nothing that would suggest any of those things. Stop being a bullying troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:50 PM
1

I'd say charisma would go further on an ugly man than money. I can imagine friends being with an ugly charismatic man. That would have to be in place before the money counted. Providing personality is there, I guess the normal rules apply, no hobos.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:24 AM
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Ooh belive me I know all about that. I once didn't lie about it in high school before the Internet, someone asked me if I did it in truth or dare. I was a fiend doing it 5 times a day, It was before the Internet so i just assumed everyone did it and admitted that I did. It went around the school and I was so bullied and ridiculed over it for the next few years that it nearly drove me to suicide.This is mostly by boys who were almost certainly wanking themselves. So yes, I am aware of the lies an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 06:17 AM
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Personality all the way. I'm no great looker but I'm the right basic shape and have long blonde hair, I tend to think my looks are good enough not to put someone off if we click, but not good enough to attract misogynistic looks obsessed douchebags.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 05:26 PM
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I agree hat women in general don't have as high a sex drive. I know loads of women who never masturbated as teenagers, and who aren't bothered about going without sex. Wish I was like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 04:27 PM
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Thankyou for the edit, saved me stating the obvious along with all the other normal women in normal relationships with normal men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:28 AM
1

You really don't know what you're talking about. It's not your fault, you've never had sex as a woman with a vagina. You don't generally get orgasms from people in v, surenit feels good with a big one but it's not going change that fact. I think if women are going to cheat its not because they had a big dick once and want another one, not uniformly anyway. That's enough anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 08:15 PM
1

Ita the only implication of not being able be satisfied after a large penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:17 PM
1

Vaginas don't actually stretch out of shape lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 06:42 PM
1

To be honest it's not the hotness of the guy but the quality of the sex which might taint future enjoyment. If you have great compatibility with someone and have excellent sex, moving on to average sex with someone is going to leave a hole forever, pardon my pun. As long as I find someone attractive enough to want to sleep with them, their relative hotness compares to others doesn't matter even a tiny bit. I fall for the quirks in their looks. In fact I'd feel self conscious if I was with someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 08:46 AM
1

Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 07:25 PM
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I find it hard to imagine many modern women accepting zero head, but if they didn't mind then it wouldn't be a problem finding out he used to do it before... just a weird question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 08:08 AM
1

Ya I guess there's still give and take even in that position!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:28 AM
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Preach. There's just a bit of give and take in a normal sexual relationship. I kind of enjoy it for about 5- 10 seconds, after that it's for him. But like getting head too, and we have different favourite positions...its all good clean fun. Separately to that there's 69 which is awesome and I sometimes ask for it if we're in a kind if mutual masturbation kind of situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 07:43 AM
1

Yes of course there are idiots who can't hide it. Im not saying men are some kind of hive mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:59 AM
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Lol nobody is getting into an abusive relationship on purpose, full stop. Abusive men hide it at first, then women find it hard to leave for all sorts of reasons- money/kids, insecurity, weakness, fear. If you're actively looking for a dom you're probably self aware and experienced enough not to fall into those traps.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 08:18 PM
1

If you took all the kids from single mothers into care, they would all go into Foster care which costs a LOT more to the taxpayer than welfare. Obviously it's hyperbole on your part but there are a lot of situations leading to single motherhood. I actually have a pretty far out opinion that those receiving welfare should be on birth control as a condition, would you agree with that? It's just a shame there isn't anything for men so it would be very unfair. It sounds like you think people should …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:16 PM
0

I'd like to know where you got those figures from. In the UK a lot more welfare money goes to old people than single mothers. Anyway, most people don't want children starving in the street. Also, if you want to be American and selfish about it, if you have children starving in the street they and their mothers will soon be thieving and doing sex work which isn't a nice environment for you, the holy taxpayer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:49 AM
1

Aaaaaaaaabsolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:43 PM
5

"Oh and she has to be a virgin there are 27 genetic markers to tell if a woman is a SLUT!..."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:43 PM
1

Bit weird but if you're both down for that why not. I think when most people find the person they want to marry they probably don't care about that stuff but yeah, OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:46 PM
2

Omfg that's a first never heard of checking genomes before lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:43 PM
4

This. Any hot girl who hasn't had much sex probably doesn't have a very high sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:18 PM
1

Im not sure I've even met a Chad and I'm in my late 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:30 PM
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Because you seem like a bitter loser who hates women while simultaneously being jealous of them. We assume you're so salty because you aren't getting any.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 09:34 AM
6

Sounds better actually, nowt wrong wi that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:56 AM
2

Omg way to prove OP's point. Hilarious!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:29 AM
1

I think the risk of getting cancelled is a big part of it, but the decision making seems so one sided. A lot of women are concerned and we just aren't allowed a place to talk about it, and any attempt at debate just gets shut down. I mean transphobia should be shut down but reasonable respectful debate shouldn't. Its my biggest gripe with reddit really.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:21 PM
1

What makes you say that? It's not really relevant to my point about sexism against women on reddit. I believe gender dysphoria is classified as a mental illness, but I could be wrong. That's up to medical science, not my opinion. From what I've learned though, being trans and having gender dysphoria are not always interchangeable, trans people technically are people who have transitioned, so they may or may not have dysphoria or another mental illness. I support trans people and their right to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:04 PM
2

Yeah they are when it comes to women's rights in the trans debate. Women get squarely shat on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:11 PM
1

Depends if they are spouting misogynist hate speech, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:09 PM
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Come on they never did fuck off, just whinged about how awful they think women are and blaming their failings on them It's the hate and prejudice that is evil, nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:08 PM
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Doesn't surprise me. I meant to say, it's not misandrist but in any online community I think you get extremists who take things too far and FDS is the same. Case in point, we've all seen misogyny on the red pill and it only got worse as all the incels got attracted to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:59 PM
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I haven't noticed any misandry at all from women in real life. I'd say there is quite a lot of knowing complaining about men amongst us married-with-kids sort of women, about patterns we have noticed in real life. Men failing to buy even one Xmas present when we do mountains of work to make Xmas happen, men being useless at cleaning up after themselves, having tantrums like children, etc. These are totally based on real world experience and we still love most of these men though. I lurk on FDS s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:05 AM
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What annoys me is when you get some downvotes on an honest opinion and nobody bothers to say why they disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 10:54 PM
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It's the same picture
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 08:13 PM
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I dunno, I agree that there are shitty people of both genders and that people are looking out for number one, but i also think that hormones massively affect our behaviour. I've had a lot of hormonal changes in my life, (PCOS, birth control, pregnancy,) so I've really felt the changes. The fact is testosterone has effects, estrogen has effects, they are a large part of the reason that men commit far more violent crimes than women, and women tend to be more nurturing. I've read a lot about trans …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:10 PM
2

Been doing the job for 11 years and it never gets any less shocking. Soooooo many children go into care in the UK because their Mum chooses the abuser over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 05:42 AM
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I work for social services and the many women who I see this behaviour in, they grew up in abusive households and to them it is normal. Even though they know it is wrong they will lose their children to go back to their abusers. They choose them over their babies. It's unbelievable but happens all the time. I think its a combination of it being the way they grew up, low self esteem, like in the dirt self esteem, my impression is they feel they are nothing and have no life and just can't fathom n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 06:52 PM
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Agree with you that the change needs to happen in the third world too, it generally happens as countries get richer and child mortality rates go down, which I totally support. Fewer people is still better than more people though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:45 PM
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I haven't ever cheated, but if I did it would be due to lack of sex from my partner. He is a bit lazy about it and has no qualms about turning me down, even if its been a long time and I'm seriously needing it, which as a woman I hate and it makes me rarely approach him for sex. I think in a committed relationship you should try and get in the mood once or twice a week, if your partner is asking you to try. I'm not saying "always say yes," but just don't always flippantly say no. It's a controve…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 09:29 AM
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I mean, low birth rates are good what with climate change right? And children born at the right time, to parents who are ready to have them, have better outcomes. Sure there's going to be a hump caring for the boomers and so on as population declines but better that than continuing population rises and total devastation further into the future?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 09:04 AM
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Babies born at the "wrong," time ie teen and unplanned pregnancies, are a much bigger financial drain to governments than those born to parents who already have a career and housing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 08:52 AM
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I was in a 10 year relationship, one kid, and then recently got married after 7 years in the next one with 2 more kids. Honestly it was just practicality, weddings cost money and we needed to save for a mortgage/ buy out the ex from the mortgage/ get a bigger house. It was only after we were finally in a big enough house we could throw a few grand at a wedding. We had kids in both the relationships and mortgages, which are kind of bigger commitments. If we were loaded we would have probably done…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 08:27 AM
1

You are right, it's apparent not implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 11:57 PM
1

It's very clear in the English language for native speakers. It's what the sentence means.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:11 PM
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Do you think that women are incapable of taking responsibility for their actions? Does this mean you think that exclusively men take responsibility for their actions? Pretty whack.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:37 PM
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I wish he would reply, I'm curious whether he thinks we are incapable of it also. As if men always do and women never do, so ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:35 PM
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Well by saying yes wishes it were the case he's implying that it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:34 PM
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It's not about my experience it's about empathising with experiences I've read about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:28 PM
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You're absolutely right. Attaching the 'nag' label to women was like the original mass gaslight.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/09/21 07:27 AM
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Only if they're an asshole. In reality they are just as dependent on the woman to look after their kids well, bit it isn't as valued in our capitalist society. A good man appreciates her hard work as an equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:09 AM
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It's the hypocrisy that's hard to understand. Wanting a dependant but also berating and resenting them for it. Sounds like an awful situation for both people. Less so in the example above, she sounds like she's a bit of a special case.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:59 AM
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It's hard to guess sometimes how a man will be once you have kids and become dependant. I see a lot of men who don't pull their weight around the house, become petulant moody manchildren, and start treating their wife like a mum/servant. Nobody signs up for that but it's happening in a lit of households. We need equal maternity and paternity leave and flexible working for all parents in my opinion, start to even things out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:56 AM
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Imo some of them get trapped by kids and the financial situation, not wanting to become a skint single mum especially in the US where even your access to healtcare probably depends on your husband. Women put up with a lot of shit in today's world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:52 AM
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They are the same thing. The exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:50 AM
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Only the saddest most basement dwelling lunatics would have time to trawl through to find links to the points they're making, or save them for later as they go along. We've all seen posts lamenting feminism on here, weve all seen posts lamenting alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:12 PM
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Loooooaaads of posts saying feminism is bad, modern women are spoilt and entitled and things were better when women were dependant on men, lamenting the loss of traditional gender roles, wanting a trad tradcon wife, etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:09 PM
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Kudos for actually explaining the mentality and exposing how dark it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:07 PM
9

Won what? Wanting two conflicting things at the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:05 PM
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Which bit is strawman? I see both if these sentiment (feminism bad women shouldn't work/ 50-50 divorce rape blah blah) often on red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:05 PM
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Yep, I think you're right. Nothing against women like this, but it wasn't my attitude when I was dating. I just wanted to show up, have a drink or maybe a Sunday roast and see if we clicked. I can't look super primped and preened and 'hot' if I tried, it's just not me and I think that approach is kind of exclusive to that kind of woman. When I met my husband we met at a bar on the beach, at the time I drank with friends on the beach often so it was second nature to bring some ciders in a cool ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 06:47 AM
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The Internet polarises people, and allows those with extreme opinions to find each other. And then some of those people go much too far and drown out the more rational, reasonable voices. I don't see any of this in real life though, just on this silly corner of the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 06:19 AM
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I'm good, this shit is hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:14 PM
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Yeah on the red pill guys also generally seem to want somebody under the age of 25 who is a virgin but shags them straightaway, no sex drive (or how would she have a low/0 'n count' yet also want sex every day and no starfishing. Despite her lack of experience, she wants a man with lots of sexual experience who won't commit to her and calls her a plate. Oh, she will be a subservient SAHM doormat but also financially independent splitting all bills and requiring no money from him. No STEM or havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 06:17 PM
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I looked it up and I dont think it applies. Red pill men are by definition sexist, therefore not decent in my estimation. Being a red pill man and a decent, ie good, person are mutually exclusive. There are plenty of shades of grey in the world, but absurd prejudices are squarely in the 'bad person' category.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 06:11 PM
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Absolutely not though I should have been more specific perhaps. I mean honest, respectful, mentally healthy, just all round a good person. Attraction also has to be there for a relationship too, of course but it isn't what I meant by decent. Blokes on red pill wouldn't know decency if it punched them in the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 06:08 PM
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Yep. You can meet someone at any time, but the odds go down as more of the decent people have found each other. I guess after that you're looking for decent people who wound up with the wrong person then split up. There will be red pill men here, who imo aren't decent people, so it's a whole different ball game for them and the contradictory laundry list of traits they look for in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:14 AM
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I'm personally fine with a little porn in moderation, but it does overwhelmingly show women being degraded and abused, and a lot of the performers are trafficked or addicted or both. It also has got us all thinking certain things, like anal and bdsm, are normal and mainstream whereas they weren't 20 years ago. Some men get addicted to it and need it to get off/ death grip/ want to copy it in their own sex lives. The effect of porn addiction on both partners is devastating. It is very, very easy …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 06:39 AM
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Come on its normal to have more than one partner throughout your entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 07:53 AM
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I really hope you make some friends and get off these dark corners of the Internet one day, all the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 07:56 PM
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I'm pushing 40 and absolutely could not be arsed sleeping around, I just want to live my comfy routine and have sex with my husband when we get the chance. Even when I was younger and loved going out all the time drinking and having adventures, I still preferred monogamy, even if it was with series of people. It's better sex anyway when you're female.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 07:27 PM
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I'm not about to shag my male friends. What a depressing world where we can't be friends with people depending on their genitals. Your OPINION (not fact by any measure,) is sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 06:21 PM
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What a load of nonsense. I loved seeing and dancing joyfully with all my male and female friends at my wedding. What a miserable life if I arbitrarily cut half of them out. Cheaters gonna cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 11:36 AM
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Internalised misogyny exists
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 07:47 AM
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It would if it wasn't a load of misogynistic tosh. Proof? Most women don't have these requirements, do find a partner, and the majority of older Virgins are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 06:35 AM
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I think we agree nobody should stay in a relationship with a completely lazy, selfish person. I think there is also more to life and relationships than just sex and cooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 08:49 PM
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Well, you say you're not a redpiller but then you try to refute my arguments with red pill nonsense like "It's different for men and women," "Women decline after mid twenties and men don't," and the whole "Men are the gatekeepers of commitment," etc. We will never agree on those parameters so there's no point discussing really.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 08:46 PM

Anyone can cook. I would actually advise men and women against a partner who not only refuses to contribute money, but is also too lazy to cook. I haven't met anyone like that though. There are valid reasons not to contribute money, like childcare situations or serious illness. But if that person has any consideration they can at least learn to throw together dinner. And not contributing anything else either, well I agree there is no reason for anyone to be with such a selfish person. But who do…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 09:17 AM
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Agree. We just have someone once a week for 2 hours and it saved our relationship. If both people work then it is worth a couple of hours pay to be used on that. My fiance is very bad at getting any of those tasks done, but he works hard so he outsources his share using money. I used to get so angry doing everything while he did nothing but work and relax. I still do a fair bit but cleaning and changing bedsheets are now out of the equation, he does them by proxy. It's a solution to a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 08:57 AM
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Oh, ha! She didn't emasculate him in the quote, I think you need to re-read it she said "nothing is sexier." She gives him lots of praise. I agree wholeheartedly. It's like a man chasing thots in his youth then finding a sensible homemaker desirable later on. Nowt wrong with either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 12:30 AM
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Well, I don't earn much, was a single Mum when I met him and I make my fiance very happy thankyou very much. We've had 2 kids together and I brought the capital which allowed us to buy our lovely house. It's about personality and getting on, can't put a price on things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 07:09 PM
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I haven't read the book so can't comment on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 06:16 PM

Nonsense. I add so much value to my fiancé's life in so many ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 06:15 PM
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If you're only focused on sex thats true, but as you get older and if you want kids, a happy home life and your sex drive goes down, an intelligent thoughtful woman who earns loads of money and has your kids is a much bigger benefit than a few casual shags with randos.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 06:34 AM
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I mean don't you know what the words "High," and "value, " mean? It means a good man. As in opposite of bad man. So not all men are bad? I'm really not going to handhold you through it any more basically than that, I can't believe you didn't know what high value means, I guess you're just enjoying the attention? I'm out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 07:14 AM
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Well yes, that's the deal. Works for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 10:02 PM
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True, better than starving though and hopefully you chose your favourite meal. In my opinion, I've got an appetite though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 10:01 PM
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You must have a very low sex drive. Far more sex living with a partner, toxic deadbedrooms aside. Especially as you get older, who can be bothered perpetually dating in your 40's and beyond?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 05:18 PM
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The fact that they talk about high value men proves that they don't think all men are bad. And they don't have a name like 'unicorn' implying they don't exist. We all hope to find one or nothing. Game, set, match, goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 03:40 PM
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Literally go on the sub and they talk about high value men. Solid proof sorry not sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 06:45 AM
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"High value men"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 09:04 AM
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I don't think they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:32 AM
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That may be so. It does seem as if the tactics would mostly only work if you were an absolute hottie, and as a non American the money stuff is just weird. I think it needs to be taken with a pinch of salt, but the main message of not settling with being treated badly and learning from other women's mistakes is golden.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 04:56 PM
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That sentence does indeed also contain the word criticise but is otherwise completely unrelated....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 01:29 PM
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What, plough through old posts and link sexism? On mobile? Nah, we both know it's there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 01:21 PM
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There are while swathes of FDS that I disagree with and certainly that can be criticised. Not sure why you think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 01:20 PM
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Sounds like hard work to me!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 12:06 PM
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No you're right, some of them probably do. I disagree with the man paying for everything stuff, I think that's a weird American thing and I'm not American. I'm a gamer so it isn't a problem for me, age gaps are a red flag but I know that cos I've been there. I admire the ethos of not settling for a toxic abuser though and toxic abusing man babies don't deserve respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 11:05 AM
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Yeah that sounds like some manipulative Bs right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 11:02 AM
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Yep, fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:59 AM
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Yep, FDS points them out whereas by definition RP is saying they don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:58 AM
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Far from it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:57 AM
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Just shows how RP men really see themselves. FDS only criticises low value men, it's clear the men on here know deep down that they wouldn't be classes as high value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:56 AM
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Only give your time to high value men not toxic abusers. And you're annoyed that they shame toxic abusers? They don't hate men, they hate toxic abusers. I think what the men on here don't understand is how as women we are programmed to be eager to please, it takes effort to override that and FDS is one of the first places I've seen encouraging women not to be doormats in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:53 AM
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All the responses I've seen against FDS are mixing up how you treat toxic low value people with good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:51 AM
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Lol first you said 'how is red pill toxic' then agreed it sees womenbas meat. What is the point debating even?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:28 AM
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Those things are part of avoiding toxic men, with the exception of the last two which you strawmanned. Age gap relationships throw up red flags because of the power imbalance and the learned evidence that they are rarely healthy relationships, also often the men can't manipulate women their own age. This is the discourse I've seen on FDS though I'm sure there have been examples of paedophilia too. All men are predators is toxic bullshit, and should be reported as hate speech. Haven't personally …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:27 AM
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I did, based on what I read posted in there over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:22 AM
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Hmm no been here enough years to have a conception of the Red Pill, as sexist and toxic, based purely on evidence thankyou.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:21 AM
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Yeah I never said they didn't? They don't deny the existence of high value men is my point. Low value men are low value for a reason, why would you respect somebody who by definition is bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:16 AM
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I don't think all men are scrotes on FDS either. Yeah I know what a plate is been here a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:14 AM
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Yeah too long to read but I disagree with using people, there are a few parts I, disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:12 AM
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Lol your conception of the Red Pill is very, very different to mine!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 08:23 PM
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I dunno guys on the red pill refer to women as plates and still expect women to want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 08:03 PM
1

I haven't seen any advice in there to be unpleasant to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 08:02 PM
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What incels aren't a part of RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 07:50 PM
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Therein is a major difference between FDS and the monosohere. FDS is about only wanting a high value man and having self respect, RP says there are no high value women and they don't deserve respect, with a side order of misogyny and incel rapey rants.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 06:42 PM
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The guardian would never write sympathetically against the Red Pill. They are super left wing and anti-prejudice. Are you somehow equating FDS with the Red Pill lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 06:38 PM
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I think the crucial difference here is between being an inexperienced lover and a selfish lover. Inexperience is fine, we can communicate and you can still lay a pipe after some foreplay. That's all I care about anyway. Anyone can avoid being selfish no matter how little experience. Do some kissing, do some feeling, no particular skill required. And bottom line- DON'T COPY PORN also she's probably about as into her butt being probed as you are. To answer the title, I don't think there's much act…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 05:57 AM
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Not necessarily. Communication is key.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 05:50 AM
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I it too. So what? Are you saying that somehow relates to my point about men learning sex from porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 08:15 AM
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There aren't many men who don't use it. I think the annoying/ alarming thing is when they learn sex from porn, and think they have to act it out, its awful and I fear for the younger generation of women getting choked, humiliated etc as standard sex. Also nobody was expecting anal in the 90's/ before widespread Internet porn use which is my main bugbear about the whole thing. Personally I like a bit of a porn wank from time to time but everything in moderation, not too often or it gets addictive…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:36 AM
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Totally up for that! Men get fat and watch shite on TV too though!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:30 AM
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I agree with your basic point. If we are responsible adults we should be able to say "No," if someone attempts to coerce or control us. For this reason I hated the accusations against Louis CK- sure it was wierd he asked to masturbate in front of those women but they also acted wierd when they didn't say "nope," and walk out of the room. There is a deep psychological conditioning in women to be accommodating though, and a common "rabbit in the headlights," reaction to these situations, where wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:23 AM
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I don't understand what you're getting at. Are you trying to demonstrate a "shit test?" This hypothetical situation is just weird nonsense. I guess I've probably asked questions out of insecurity... But when I ask a question its because I want a straight answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:37 AM
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Well girlfriend is a bit of a dick because she isn't blind and can clearly see she is pretty. So I question your choice of girlfriend for a start. Answer honestly, "yes of course she is, why do you ask?" Wierd conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:22 PM
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I haven't seen evidence of what you're saying in real life or online, but even so it doesn't really have anything to do with the point I'm making about all the men who do absolutely nothing. We are referring to different situations entirely. I agree about the maid if the couple can afford it. It's was actually part of the solution for me and my fiance, he pays for a cleaner 2 hours a week which takes the load off us both. He works 5 days and I work 3, I do all grocery shopping, cooking and laund…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:55 PM
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Thankyou, logical answer!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:07 PM
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What a load of bollocks. If I ask a question its because I'm curious about the answer. You are overthinking things, it must be exhausting. I feel sorry for anyone whose life experiences led them to think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:06 PM
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Disagree. They just want him to do some of the work. They only start demanding when they do it if they constantly procrastinate and can't be trusted to do it later. No woman is asking for help around the house as a "shit test." They just want the other person to pull their weight and are probably getting pissed off and losing attraction over him being a pathetic man child.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:04 PM
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Well yes, I think therein lies part of the problem- it's a grey area trying to figure out a fair amount. A man who works more hours of course should not do 50% of the housework, that would be unfair. He can't do 0% either though, running a household with kids is more than an 8 hour day especially if there are pre-school age children. If your partner is up all night with a baby, then running around getting kids ready all morning while you lie scrolling your phone, then you go to work and come hom…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:01 PM
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The posts on justnoSO? Usually they are still together but the woman is contemplating leaving, or only staying for financial or other practical reasons. We grow up being told we are equal and throughout our teens and twenties we more or less are, then it all comes crashing down after we have children IME.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:37 PM
1

Well yes of course if one person is better at a particular task they will do that task, I'm not saying each person has to split each and every task. I'm talking about the daily posts about these men who do N-O-T-H-I-N-G around the house whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:55 AM
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All the ones I know are, easy. It doesn't always have to be exact 50/50 though. The way employment works in the UK, its quite normal for women with kids to drop to part time and not for men with kids, so it's rarely a financial 50/50 split, often the men are paying more like 70/30. The problem is when they aren't doing anywhere close to 30% household tasks which is so often the case. It's attitude too, common courtesy like taking your own cup into the kitchen after using it, putting your own dir…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:45 AM
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Over on justnoSO there are posts daily about pathetic manchildren who don't contribute to any housework, childcare, and leave the domestic burden and mental load 100% on their wives shoulders even when both of them work. Sometimes the man doesn't even work and the woman does and he still does nothing. That doesn't wash any more. Maybe it was OK in the 50's when only the man worked and it was what everybody expected, but in today's world we can't abide that sort of injustice. So yeah, level up. R…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 08:07 AM
1

I don't agree that these gender wars are widespread in real life. Falling birth rates are great news though, just what the planet and all living things on it need.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 07:55 AM
1

Well duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:04 PM
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I'd be supportive of what he wanted I guess. I think men have been well aware that they are more attrative with hair for a long time though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 02:09 PM
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I don't know any couples with kids who both work full time, not one. Childcare is very expensive here in the UK so just not worth it. I think we should all be consuming less and spending less, the planet can't take it anyway. I'm also hoping the bubble will burst in the next decade or two on housing and rent prices.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:01 PM
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Just The Internet for myriad reasons- fewer people going out all the time, the chance to meet someone online, porn, gaming, political polarisation... The Internet is changing society inside out and I barely think we've witnessed the beginning of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:45 AM
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It's ok, you don't need to write long winded not at all similar examples, I understand the point you're making. I have understood all along. As I said originally, it's just based on a flawed premise that sex is a reward bestowed on men by women. In my case, I get horny and I, want sex. To hark back to your example, if the guy enjoys sending cards he'll do it with all his girlfriends, only sending cards etc is a chore and sex isn't, though the men on here are treating it as such from the women's …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:21 PM
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The sex/ commitment thing may or may not be true on a macro level, but it isn't the case in all male/female relations. When a guy meets a girl he really likes and wants to marry, individual men will get really thirsty for commitment from her. She might only want him for sex. Definitely been there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:32 PM
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He's marrying me, pretty wise I reckon.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:53 AM
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Nope. Didn't have to jump through hoops, we enjoyed each others company and got to know each other. He wanted to get to know me too. He didn't want to have sex straight away either. We waited a few days. No big deal to either of us, felt natural. You are phrasing sex as a bestowed prize again, demonstrating my original point. There are no hoops, it isn't a reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:03 AM
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You're right, I don't have an argument, I literally explained how I operate its a fact not an argument. My disbelief in all the sex you say you're getting is unrelated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:57 AM
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Duh. Do you really think the guy I choose is going to be one of you whiney sexless MRA basement dwellers? LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:55 AM
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My comment is right there, maybe you mis read it? What's the lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:53 AM
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What are you on about? When did I say putting in effort is oppression? I didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:32 PM
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Disagree. He's probably had hook ups in the past too and by definition he's a reasonable guy so he understands my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:29 PM
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Yeah, thathappened
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:28 PM
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Not whenever I wanted by any means. What point would that be though? It's a post about waiting or not waiting for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:27 PM
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American eh? Most countries have parental leave with at least a few months paid for the mother to recover, and up to a year to be taken between the parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:09 PM
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My point is that neither are sole breadwinner- instead of one staying full time and the other going part time or SAH, I'd like to see most parents drop to 4 days or so as standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:07 PM
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You say you aren't referring to the slave/ doormat thing... But apart from that I see many women being feminine all the time-hair, dresses, makeup, cooking, caring... I'm really not sure which traits, which aren't oppressive or toxic, you think women aren't performing? Similarly we only ask men to do away with oppressive or toxic traits. Personally I'd like to see gender roles further reducing, and I think the next big watershed moment will be Dads taking up part time work at the same rate as Mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 08:25 AM
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I think the problem with your view is you are seeing sex as a reward bestowed by women, and forgetting that we have sex drives and needs too. Sometimes, some women need sex. I'm not into casual sex, I much prefer being in a relationship. But I have been single for a few years in the past. I needed sex while I waited for Mr Right to come along. If I really like someone, of course I'm going to take my time. Don't want my heart broken, and it would just feel wrong. We've mutually had a sense of thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 05:59 AM
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Group C, and it's all about that click/ connection. You both know when you have it and in my case just don't care about the casual sex that has gone before. We all have sex drives and needs, if you're matching someone with similar needs and outlook then it just isn't a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:47 PM
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Not lying because nobody is pretending they aren't wearing makeup... Or pants lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 07:49 AM
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This topic comes up from time and it's dumb. Do you really think we were born with purple eyelids? Makeup isn't misleading, it's a standard optional part of female dress. Shape wear isn't that misleading, it smoothes you over but doesn't make mass disappear. Sure we could all go around in loose T-shirts, cargo pants no makeup and a crew cut but I don't think you'd love that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 07:48 AM
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I think you need to change your OP to 'any' makeup then because it's really misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 07:43 AM

It's interesting how you keep calling it a hate group but haven't said who against? I guess as they call men scrotes you're saying it's against men? They're actually calling out abuse and unacceptable behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:18 PM

Slurs lol like 'scrotes?' yeah cos women haven't had to put up with any slurs for all of history and RP definitely never calls anyone sluts /s What kind of supremacist am I? Who are they a hate group against?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:20 PM

Well that was civil, we seem to be more or less in agreement!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:17 PM

I don't think they're comparable really. Red Pill may have started as dating strategy but there's a hell of a lot of women-bashing which basically defines it now. It seems to be inherently sexist. I agree that some of FDS strategy seems like it will work a lot better for super hot women and they are very exclusive. There's a lot of good advice on there for all women though, it's about learning from each others mistakes and supporting other women apart from anything. I think RP is offensive-"wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:10 PM

I disagree, although earnings and stability are of course an aspect of being a high value man they are not advocating "get with any rich man just for his money," at all. As for sociopathic, I think it's more about avoiding sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:57 AM

I haven't seen anything to suggest that. They criticise low value and no value men, but that is squarely due to those men's shitty actions and the fact that society often let's them get away with it. And they recommend avoiding those men. What makes you call it a hate group?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:53 AM

I think it's hilarious that someone posting on purple pill, with a seemingly red pill outlook, is calling FDS toxic... Oh the irony. I don't agree with everything FDS says, but for the most part they seem to be about avoiding toxic men, with red pillers pretty high on the top of that list. Mental health problems are very common in the Western world, to me the fact that these people are subbed suggests they are self-aware and dealing with them, as opposed to the undiagnosed narcism, autistic spec…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 08:05 AM
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Came here to say this. The women's statement is a huge red flag. We all want someone good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 06:28 AM

Don't even need to moneymax, mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:02 AM

TEACH ENGLISH IN JAPAN OR KOREA
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:02 AM
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Lots of women and girls are trafficked- look into the meaning of that word, they are railroaded into it and have little to no choice. In the worst case scenarios crime gangs will be holding the threat of killing members of their families in their home country over their head. Seeking help isn't easy when you are in a strange place with terrifying people, might not speak the language and you have probably had quite a hard life with little education to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:50 PM
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Because its all to protect vulnerable women from the scummiest of scumbag men. Prostitutes tend to be trafficked and will happen anyway, so there are arguments that legalising offers them some protection. That doesn't stop pimps and men who use prostitutes from being scumbags either way, just takes away some of their power to abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:42 PM
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Wasn't my experience, most men made an effort and seemed to be looking for relationships, and was a not even that hot single mum. Think it's partly because I'm a sci-fi gamer type and I don't go for male model types.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 05:25 PM
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Funny how marriage is this huge risk to RPers because the woman might turn on you, but single mom's 100% should have been able to vet the guy before getting pregnant so it is 100% their own stupid fault...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:37 AM
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I don't have an argument about marriage, my country is not religious so its irrelevant to this debate. I was with my first sons Dad for about 8years before we had him, things changed completely after he was born. I probably should have noticed some red flags, he definitely shouldn't have become a lying gaslighting arsehole. What of it? People have sex because they like it, despite the risk of pregnancy. Of course there are accidental pregnancies, to suggest otherwise is completely batshit. I not…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 10:59 PM
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Yeah you can tell if someone's liw earning or a lazy deadbeat. Sometimes you can't tell if they are going to lose interest in you or were a hidden narcissist all along, and a million other reasons people split after having kids. The contraception all has its flaws. Synthetic hormones make me crazy, not an option. Condoms feel like shit, not a long term option. Sometimes people don't want abortions, I didn't. (still pro choice of course.) If there are no accidental pregnancies, why do abortions e…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:59 PM
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What the heck are you on about? Certainly didn't respond to my comment in any way! To come back to the root of this little thread, step away from the manosphere, come out of the hole, stop overthinking gender relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 11:23 AM
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I agree actually, sex is higher pressure on the man. That's the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 08:21 AM
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I honestly can't see a problem with no supermodels, for red pill, blue pill or anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 02:30 PM
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The one you're suggesting where women are a big horrid shallow hive mind and the world sucks and life sucks and you'll be lonely and sex deprived, etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:13 PM
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Very very good point. I feel this should be the blue pill tagline, or ex redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:10 PM
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I, a horny female, disagree that women are asexual. To use your analogy, I salivate at the smell of baked bread at my local bakery, or if i see a picture of a nice cake, but not when I walk past McDonald's.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:23 PM
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Where did the asexual comment come from? Total rubbish. I don't get turned on by random guys, but then unlike you with your T and A we don't get random glimpses of dick I suppose. If I catch a glimpse of some porn or something sexual on TV I might get a lady boner, or if i just start thinking about sex for some reason. As others have said it is more likely to be thinking about a connection (my boyf or a fantasy one) than some random dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 05:54 AM
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I'd say the equivalent here is high body count = high body count. Equivalent to prostitute use is prostitute use, or having been a prostitute which is a whole different value system. There is obviously a limit to 'past is past.' If a person murdered their ex, its obviously relevant. If they were single for a short time the body count will be low, if it was longer its probably a bit higher but that doesn't necessarily tell you anything about them or their values. I think it's very telling that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:46 AM
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We are not all doomed to be alone and frustrated. While I agree to some extent with the paradox of choice, Lots of people still want to and do get married and have children, etc. It might be in your 30's or even 40's, but most people want to find someone. Even for women, OLD sucks after a while and any sensible person will know when they click with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:39 AM
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All sounds good to me, it's what the planet needs. I really wish Americans could see abortion for the medical procedure it is, the situation I see on the news is heartbreaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:49 AM
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I have ni idea what you're on about
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:35 AM
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I just don't know what you expect 'old ladies' to do about it. Sure I feel sorry for sexless young guys but what can the rest of us do except give advice? And I'm sure a cohort of them are porn addicted, or gaming addicted, or unhealthy food addicted, all of which get more accessible and more addictive with every passing year and no doubt keep driving those statistics up. OK so my 'fingers are out of my ears' - now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 10:25 PM

Eh? What have we got to do with young sexless men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 10:19 PM
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Well your ex sounds awful. And some women probably do use their children like that but I don't know any. I know plenty who have to prevent their ex seeing their kids because they aren't safe or reliable, sadly. They would love some time off but not at the expense of their kids safety. It's also quite possible that the men you are speaking to are greatly exaggerating how devoted and involved they are. No point arguing about it because we'd never resolve it, but that's my strong assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:14 PM
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How on earth is that a deflection? 😂 They asked why women have babies with these men, I said some are accidental pregnancies. It's about as direct an answer as you can get... 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 09:37 AM
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Lucky mums where you live! You're a bunch of unicorn Dads!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:58 AM
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Nobody has a crystal ball to see what kind of Dad someone will become. Also society plays a huge part in... Societies expectations (duh!) see "You should have asked" web comic for a bit of insight into how the parenting gender roles fall out. I know quite a few women who had accidental pregnancies too, because people like to have sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:32 AM
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You didn't read the comment above, you certainly didn't reply to it. Answer is spot on. To repeat, you can't always Forsee what kind of dad someone will be. Also, as I hinted with the school always calling the mum, society puts more pressure on the mum. This directly responds to what the OP posted about societies expectations. Sound like you just have a "don't get pregnant" axe to grind.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:27 AM
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I never said all or even most dad's were like that, just a lot. Come on, be honest, are all the men you know as involved as you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:24 AM
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As a mother approaching middle age, I heartily disagree. Most women I know are parents and bear most of the responsibility for our children's wellbeing. There are so many lazy, deadbeat dads out there who just don't contribute, both in and out of relationship with their kids mums. Partly society doesn't expect it. Kid has a problem at school, it's the mum they call every time. It's like society just puts very low expectations on Dads to actually parent, they're the ones who get to pursue hobbies…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 05:33 PM
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Because it makes better prospects for us in this crazy, complex modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 06:40 AM
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Oh yeah I've seen this working for social services when deadbeat dad's say they don't change nappies because it's 'woman's work.' OK so you believe in traditional gender roles- What job do you do to provide for your family? Oh you don't do the 'men's work,' you just don't do the 'woman's work.'
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/05/21 07:25 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 11:30 AM
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That wasn't my experience when I was a single Mum.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 11:29 AM
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Did you sleep through the Trump administration? January 6th?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 05:44 AM
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How? Also isn't it well documented how the American far right resemble Isis? They are religious, violent, pose with guns, racist, xenophobic and seek to oppress and control women, support slavery and oppression. Even in your own exaggeration you admit that leftists oppose those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 05:42 AM
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Of course they should. And I do. I get that you were reversing what I said but I never hinted that they shouldn't in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 04:16 PM
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I get that you're joking, but do you associate being left wing with a kind of over the top political correctness gone mad wokeness? What would the right wing stand for in that case?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 04:15 PM
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I mean, I've never heard of the idea of it being a conspiracy before, that would be daft. But as a negative aspect of the culture surrounding us, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 04:11 PM
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OP did
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 04:09 PM
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Let me get this straight - you think cis straight men shouldn't care about others issues? I think you might be the problem, sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 06:31 AM
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We definitely give a fuck about cis straight men but it does make us laugh when you say cis straight men have it just as bad as women. So silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 06:29 AM
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I'm confused, do you disagree with the feminists you wrote about? It all seemed very reasonable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 06:26 AM
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Of course not, though as in the case of the men I expect its more about WHY they have had that number of partners than the number itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 09:19 PM
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In my case, sometimes if I really liked a guy, sex could instantly bring out stronger feelings, I could feel loved up and heartbroken if it didnt work out. I'm not going to risk that by having sex too soon, I want to have a chance for him to really fall for me too before releasing all those crazy hormones into my brain. On the other hand, I have a high sex drive and get really horny. A few times I was on a date and I knew he wasn't for me but we clicked enough for sex, so we had it. No risk of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:44 PM
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GOD no! I once saw a thread asking older women about their regrets in life, not ONE was confirming red pill 'truths' about bagging an alpha while young, regretting sleeping around, wishing they'd married young or any of that rubbish. The wall doesn't really seem to be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:41 PM
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That's strange I tend to rule out anyone with a degree as they must have some wherewithal, same with feminists, and I think the bottom 20% would be the half brain dead types who watch soaps and just have no interest in science or history or politics or anything. The ones who failed at school and can't grasp healthy eating or holding down a job. Different to the bottom 20% of men who could easily have degrees but they're failing for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 04:58 PM
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Well, so far my sons seem to be lovely people, so this will get them far. I'll always encourage them to exercise and be healthy, hopefully they'll be their best selves. Only dickheads insist on 6 foot height and I don't know anyone who insists on lots of money. All the women I know just looked for love. Sex has to be good too so yeah micropenis is a tough break. If my sons are struggling to find a girl into their thirties, and if they are fit, healthy and without major issues I could help with, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:09 AM
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This seems a very bitter male centric viewpoint. From a female viewpoint, before that time if we had unmarried sex we coukd ruin our whole lives. Just for doing something natural. We were also immensely shamed for doing something very pleasurable, which is a total headfuck. It was immoral and illogical so as civilisation progressed of course emancipation had to happen. It hasn't failed, its just freedom. What you're saying is like saying emancipation of slaves has failed because now no-one is pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 06:35 AM
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I think for a relationship there has to be so many things in place, looks, personality, compatibility, it's so hard to find the right person and it can take years. Most of us are horny in the meantime so have more casual sex with guys who tick some of the boxes but not all. Having said that it still used to be months between meeting anyone I could remotely imagine having sex with, I've never experienced the queue of thirsty men and chads red Pillers assure me are always available to all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 08:40 AM
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Surely the base advice of rpw though, ne?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 07:51 AM
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I agree about the red pill, but blue is for satirising the RP not a strategy in its own right. It encompasses literally anyone who isn't red pill which is going to include a lot of well adjusted people who have no problems with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:44 AM
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Life is the extreme end, but a lot of us have health complications for life, like pelvic floor weaknesses as one example- prolapse, incontinence, etc. Forcing all that on someone just because they had sex is barbaric.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 08:46 AM
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My MIL leaves these useless answerphone messages, like "I called but you weren't there, I'll try again later." She says it's polite. I say it's the absolute opposite, total pain to make me listen to a message which I knew anyway from the missed call. I don't think we'll ever agree on that!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 11:48 AM
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No I don't think I'd want to anyway, even if he was hot it would be weird and I would have to know and like his personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 02:42 PM
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Not just with some rando, no, because of social reasons but it's the physical thing I need not the desire or approval or whatever. I imagine it's the same with a lot of horny guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 01:46 PM
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Nah, sometimes I really really need a dick in my vag.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 10:27 PM
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Bullshit. I think you've been nit picking 'studies' that affirm your worldview. People have different personalities, it will always be the main indicator of how a relationship will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 07:52 AM
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Surely you're going to choose your partner on how compatible they are with you over some vague dodgy statistical suggestion that there's a chance they could cheat? I don't credit the link you posted for a second, but I think infidelity is more down to personality type than how many different cocks went in, which itself depends of how many years they spent single and how slim they are...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 09:56 PM
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Why would you even ask that though? It's wierd and to be honest just seems like insecurity. I don't need to know the number of holes my partners dick has been in.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 12:28 PM
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Yeah I've never had that conversation with a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 12:26 PM
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Remember the Cant!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 12:24 PM
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Too long, didn't read all, but first block of text is total bullshit. Oooh or maybe I'm just scared of being told I'm controlled by fear? Proof you're wrong, we don't see good guys who are kind as women. IMO guys who are kind and good are the most secure in their masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 09:50 AM
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They must all be young. Who the hell is still keeping count into their 40's or 50's? I've only spent a few years single here and there but I wasn't tallying dates that led to make-do sex like some teenager. Boyfriends I could count for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 09:41 AM
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Bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 07:09 AM
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Well there's a load of them who want to reverse feminism and take the vote and rights away from half the population... Some think women should be shamed for having casual sex whilst having it themselves shame free... A lot just hate women and think they are child like or less capable and intelligent... I think you're one of the ones who bitches about the meagre advantages to being a western woman while ignoring their enormous male privelidge. It's a cesspit but for some reason it's fascinating l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 10:31 PM
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Manosphere wants equality... HAHAHAHA
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 08:03 PM
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Here we go in an endless "No you said this, no you said this..." loop. YOU drew a distinction between PUA stuff and manosphere stuff presuming people might somehow be against PUA and not manosphere. By PUA stuff I assumed you meant trying to pick up women. I'm not really offended by men exchanging notes on how to consensually pick up women. I'm against sexism and misogyny, as I said. The very concept of 'plate' is a bit offensive, it suggests the guy is leading the woman along and she doesn't kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 02:29 PM
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I'm against the misogyny of the red pill, it was you who drew a line between pick up types and manosphere types. If they can stomach the red pill, they are probably misogynists. Not sure how wanting women to pay on dates (we do in the UK anyway) is against feminism? I guess you mean in a wider sense women should have the same responsibilities, well I agree. There shouldn't be a pussy pass. Or male privelidge. It actually sounds like you want equality which does make you a feminist, congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 10:01 PM
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Eh? My preference would be that men view women as equals. So not a 'plate' and also with equal rights. I'm not sure where your either/or there comes from. So by feminism isn't 'true' do you mean you think women shouldn't have equal rights? That's pretty grim. Like voting rights? Property rights? Employment rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 10:19 PM
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Not the pick up stuff, as you say they must like female company somewhat. I mean the MRA, manosphere side of it which goes on about hating women, dissing feminism, slut shaming etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 09:11 PM
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I agree relationships are emotion based. I was saying it is false to say RP of all things is fact based. Nobody minds men looking out for their best interests, but RP is a hate group.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 08:00 PM
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Red pill is an emotion based movement. "women rejected be so they are all horrible and stupid." The only facts in it are general truisms like 'people are more attracted to good looking people,' followed by endless hampstering around why that makes women meanies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 09:08 AM
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Omg, I know soooo many couples who split for the first reason, none for the second. I nearly did too, but counselling saved it. By the way, reasons other people are writing, like arguing, lack of communication, attitude, etc can layer over the top of this basic reason, again, they did for me. Red Pillers slag off women but there are just SO MANY lazy spoiled man-babies out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 06:39 AM
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Female, engaged with kids so not trying to 'pull.' Im pretty secure in my relationship so though I want to look good for my partner, the exercise and improvement is probably about 20% for him. I could get away a lot less I think, but I also want to be slim and healthy for myself. It also matters to me what my friends and colleagues think. I've been slightly chubby and thin in my life and as a woman the difference is night and day. As a slim woman everyone treats you much more nicely. When I get …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 01:41 PM
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Agree, but then there isn't the base expectation of flawless skin or black eyelashes etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 06:23 PM
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Agree, but then there isn't the base expectation of flawless skin or black eyelashes etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 06:23 PM
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That's wierd, I read your comment and didn't think about female privelidge but agreed that the problem is how they treat people. You get out what you put in. Believe me, if an average looking or older woman treats people like shit, she will be as lonely as your incel male. (attractive women are obviously immensely privelidged and in a whole other category. They can treat people however they like.) Most women have had to master socialising and 'looks maxing' to a phenomenal level since childhood.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 10:41 AM
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Work, hobbies, volunteering
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 07:36 PM
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I'm an average looking British woman, been thin and gorgeous on a few occasions, I've literally never been cold approached outside of nightclubs and even then it's just a handful of times. Is it an American thing? I just always met people through social circles and then through OK cupid once the Internet became a thing. Approaching women just sounds like masochism to me especially if you're an average looking guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 07:35 PM
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I've never understood this. People go to bars, have some drinks and hook up, it's normal and ingrained in our culture. Of course there are cases where someone is blackout drunk and shouldn't be taken advantage of, making the whole thing less than black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 09:50 AM
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