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Your comment might be right about the chads part, but I disagree about the race portion. There are attractive men of all races.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:31 PM
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People want to spend their younger years “having a good time” instead of “being tied down” by responsibilities and sacrifices and all the necessary things we don’t like that are necessary for a relationship to blossom and work. This isn’t a complaint about any particular person or specific country, but more of a trend in advanced nations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:12 PM
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That explains a lot. There’s too much of an over reliance on OLD but still a large portion of women have never used OLD. From my personal experience, the vast majority have never used OLD and just date guys in their circle, school, work or hobby group. The only women I know who’ve used OLD are women who are very anxious about talking and getting to know guys (including my younger self) or have very busy lives like nurses and lab workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:03 PM
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I’m not from a hyper conservative environment. In fact I was encouraged to get out there. I completely rejected that of my own free volition simply because when doing a cost/benefit analysis, there was no benefit to me and enormous cost. If I got pregnant at a young age I could be in a lot of trouble regardless of the environment I grew up in. There has to be a lot of love and a marriage in place there for me to risk that. Also I want to address this idea that once you get married you’re stuck w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:16 PM
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In reality getting married at 18 wouldn’t be great but in a fantasy world where you have a lifelong wholesome marriage where you both take care of each other and love each other a lot, this is the fantasy for a lot of women including myself. I don’t want “experience” and never have. That’s just how my brain is. Other women can do whatever they want but I’m just not like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 05:42 PM
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Just look out for a purity ring and make sure their single since they are easily mixed up with promise rings.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 10:19 PM
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Exactly! Sure there will be rough patches during certain points but a good marriage makes it easier to get through those and come out stronger. It really shouldn’t be like a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:26 PM
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That’s because the woman ends up both being the traditional and modern woman who’s expected to contribute financially. Of course women who are in a lopsided marriage would be happier single.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:24 PM
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I’m happier being single than in a relationship with little to no love. However if I were to be in a relationship where I’m very much in love it would be infinitely better than being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:21 PM
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Those are some pretty sad reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:43 AM
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It’s not like this when a woman has sex with a guy she really likes though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:29 PM
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But most people end up having kids. It’s just that the women and men in the middle and upper classes tend to have them much later. And honestly I don’t see women having kids later being any less trashy. People can be trashy and still make decisions that are in their best interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:01 PM
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That’s not completely out of the question. Back then we didn’t know how pregnancy was caused so we were probably having too many kids for us to really watch over properly and a lot of kids were getting picked off by animals like wolves. Pretty morbid to think about but that’s life in the wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:17 PM
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It depends on the woman. Some women would be attracted but from most women I’ve spoken to, they prefer someone up to 5 years +/-.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:14 PM
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When their partner is someone close to their age they most likely are sexually attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:55 PM
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That’s because most died as children or a very young age not because women were sharing the same guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:49 PM
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Admittedly I haven’t made any close male friends since I was a kid. However it was just something that happened when we had personalities that meshed and aligned hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:48 PM
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Take it as a lack of strong interest, because frankly that’s what it’s always been when he doesn’t indicate interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:13 AM
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I’ve only done this personally because of my depression. Once I treated it fully and put effort to maintain it through taking vitamins I need, I started being much more open though still reserved on some things. Sometimes people are just going through a lot during certain periods of their life. However if it becomes a pattern of constant push and pull then it might be a sign of a bigger problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 07:14 PM
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I mean I’ll say something too. I just need to know he really likes me first. I’m trying to find the man I’ll spend my life with and don’t want to waste my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:39 AM
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Sus
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:59 PM
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When a woman is around a man that arouses her, their sex drive can outperform most men. That’s difficult to quantify but it does significantly increase and become more comparable. However that require strong interest on his part. Otherwise it just balances out again very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:46 PM
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Making good money so you can enjoy your time whether single or with your beloved.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:42 PM
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I’m not an outlier though most girls have varied interests at the very least. They just stick to their gender roles in public to blend in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:40 PM
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Yes. I’m not a mind reader, if a guy doesn’t say something I’m not gonna just know that he really likes me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:32 PM
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People were very bothered by the fact that I preferred dinosaur and alligator toys to glitter, heels, makeup and babies and tried to actively change me. No girls are pushed into their gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:27 PM
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I believe some people do take it too far but I generally am fine with the double standard on having sex. Women are more at risk when being vulnerable with men than the reverse so the expectation that women are at least cautious about it makes sense. Do I believe on stoning promiscuous women or anything like that? No but I do think it’s in a woman’s best interest to vet properly. That’s probably one of my more controversial takes but it makes more sense than the alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:15 PM
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Wealthy families have less kids because it you need to work insane hours and obtain a masters degree or a very lucrative bachelor’s degree to get to that point meaning that high earning women don’t have to time date, build a relationship and have a kid or two until later than average. I know this from my family. One example is my cousin who’s very beautiful and a kind person but she didn’t get married and until her early 30s because she’s a lawyer and is way to busy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:51 PM
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That’s because of the aging population. What is the percentage of homeownership for people under 40 years old?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:44 PM
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The birth rate in Europe and many East Asian countries is almost non existent. A condo is better to raise kids in than an apartment. I agree that overall it’s not necessary but it’s a more stable environment to raise kids in. I and many of my friends were raised in an apartment and it just made life much more stressful. A lot of them had to constantly move because of high rent increases.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:38 PM
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Yup and all that is more feasible when you don’t have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:19 AM
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One of the most effective ways to encourage young women to have kids is to make it easier to for them to them to find stability. If basic resources needed to raises children and home ownership are something only the wealthy can acquire, then the average women will not want kids. That’s the real problem behind the low birth rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 08:00 PM
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Rich men didn’t get to that point by being stupid. Also half of what? Unless he puts her name on everything, stuff he obtained before getting married is not considered community property. I’d rather save myself the headache of dealing with that life and just marry someone I can actually see myself spending my life with. If he makes a lot of money that’s great for us both but using marriage as a money making scheme is stupid and filthy frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:28 PM
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No how agreeable a woman is in a relationship is not based on how much he supports her, it’s based on a bunch of factors such as her personality and whether the guy makes decisions she’s confident in. Sometimes it’s better to question decisions since he’s not a perfect human being and makes mistakes like every person does.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:22 PM
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This is true. Having a demanding boss and demanding husband you’re reliant on isn’t all that different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:54 PM
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I agree women want a provider to a certain extent but to claim that women are envious of women who marry a wealthy man is not necessarily accurate for all. There are major downsides to that lifestyle like having to marry a man more than 5 years older than you and often the guy is cheating on you and trying to find a younger woman. If I’m jealous of any of women, it’s women who marry the man they clearly love a lot and the women who are both intelligent and motivated enough to get those high powe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:50 PM
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Anybody who’s met someone while having untreated mental health issues can attest to this. Yes it’s pretty common and it has nothing to do with a lack of attraction like a lot of people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 08:13 PM
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It would be the perfect test for newly weds to see how well they do under extreme boredom.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:58 PM
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The sincerely online is kind of accurate. My anxiety doesn’t have the stronghold on my posting that it does on my actions. That doesn’t mean I post on guys pictures but it does mean I’m better at expressing what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:52 PM
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That’s why you marry the “hell yes” guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:31 PM
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That’s something that both sides should discuss and agree on before it’s done. You can’t just spring that on someone suddenly regardless of your gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:40 PM
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It’s typically beautiful women who are still in traditional marriages which this is really about, that pretty women should settle for mediocrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:36 PM
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I’ve never initiated anything with a guy so it probably would be like going through middle school.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 05:51 PM
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Honestly yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:27 PM
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Blurt “I really like you” and then 🏃‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:24 PM
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I’m heard enough parents call their own kids mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:18 PM
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Happy? Is that why they’re always whining about their kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 05:34 AM
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It has the same benefits that it does for every other organism. You just have to wait until you find a good man. It blows my mind that a lot of guys really think pregnancy is no big deal though. Even if you do everything right it can really mess up your health. It’s also really expensive so you really have to make sure you’re in a good place in life. I’m with you on the lack of gratefulness too. It’s a lot to ask a person to go through all that so gratefulness is the bare minimum honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 05:20 AM
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I don’t think men need to do anything in particular here. Just understanding that it’s often necessary for women to behave cautiously would be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:39 AM
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Yeah I agree with this. I agree with the original intent of feminism especially since I have IQ much higher than average and a lot of energy. I think it’s a good thing that I spent my younger years learning and working to make money, because sitting at home relying on my parents for every penny when I know I’m more than capable of relying on myself would make me miserable. I don’t mind tradition, but not when it’s forced on intelligent women with a lot of ambition. The over-sexualizing of women …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 08:00 PM
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I don’t think the husband should negotiate sex and his wife should be enthusiastic on her own. However if he starts neglecting everything around him, sometimes including his wife, that’s going to put stress on her making her less likely to be in the mood. Personally no matter how much I like someone if I’m very stressed I’m just not gonna be in the mood. I know this from when I was in school and very stressed about money and life I was literally never in the mood. I wasn’t in a relationship so i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:46 PM
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I don’t think anyone is expecting the husband to solve health issues revolving around sex unless he’s an actual doctor. It’s more that he should put in effort to get her in the mood. Otherwise a lot of the time it’s just not gonna happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:39 PM
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I think once you’re married it’s normal to expect to be having sex at least once a day before you have kids at least. Probably after kids too though when they’re young it might be less often but it should still be often. I’d aim to still have sex everyday but you don’t know how the stress affects you until you get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:04 PM
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No because they still have to go to work. Now if they had a more labor intensive job, it would make sense to shift some of it to the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:27 PM
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The balding though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:23 PM
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Honestly you would have to spend generously on them for it to compensate for your looks. Otherwise it’s just a “fun fact” about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:50 PM
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Good question! There’s no one size fits all answer here since it’s location dependent and the women who would forgo attraction for financial comfort have different ideas. I think close to 6 figures is a good ballpark. Admittedly as a woman who’s pretty sheltered and has family and friends who are too, I don’t really see this happening much with women under 40 years old. Most want someone they’re attracted to with a high income just being a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:47 PM
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Half your list has nothing to do with attraction either. Belching or saying offensive things in front of your partner just signals comfort. If you don’t like it, tell them (goes back to the communication things mentioned). Being tired and stressed are also normal or could signal vitamin deficiencies. There’s too many assumptions being made.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:42 PM
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Bad communication or a lack of communication is a major problem that has nothing to with attraction. If anything it can be caused by strong attraction depending on the person’s personality and mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:38 PM
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I think it might actually be my medication. I’m hoping at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:36 AM
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Marrying a guy on the spot is too much, it’s important to get to know him. He doesn’t need to be wealthy or even the same race. But the attraction and shared values are important entry standards, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:32 AM
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Very good! Unfortunately real estate investors are doing this to rent properties at a premium making it unrealistic for the wider population.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 12:42 AM
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I agree but the problem is there’s just too many people. I recently went to the beach and at night the pier was packed with people fishing. After long enough there won’t be anything left for anyone. We have the same problem with housing where some people want large houses and multiple for themselves, imagine trying to meet that demand for all the people in a location.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 11:07 PM
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I am active and I do intense workouts and my weight just doesn’t budge unless I’m starving myself. I’ve joked about using Ozempic but the risks aren’t worth it and diabetics deserve those meds more than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:32 PM
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Yeah I’d rather stay single and be able to eat as much I want honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:59 PM
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This is very true!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:45 PM
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Waiting on a guy who really likes you enough to get to know you better regardless. I love too much to accept less.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:36 PM
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Depends on the age group. Women used to be raised to believe that the most important thing they can do is get a man and have kids. Now there’s more importance placed on getting an education and making money so women aren’t really marrying men they’re not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:21 PM
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I mean I’m already part way there. It would be great if that would change but I'm not getting my hopes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:15 PM
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If he’s decent looking and has a decent personality then the only reasons he could be single is because he doesn’t try hard enough, has unrealistic expectations or drives away every woman when he opens his mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:12 PM
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I wouldn’t mind that but I’d want to make sure it doesn’t backfire such as if he has a major STD that can’t or isn’t treated or a crazy ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:50 PM
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Glad there’s some who appreciate the clinginess. It feels like you have to try to hard to not seem clingy these days. The example you have is a bit extreme though. I feel like you’d get burnt out dealing with someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:57 AM
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You have the right idea, there was probably another reason things didn’t work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:44 PM
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And the cherry on top is that jobs don’t even you enough to rent a 1 bed and bath studio. You’re stuck having to live with a bunch of other miserable people making the issue much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:30 PM
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They’re not this honest because they would have to admit that their standards is the problem and not women being too picky. A woman who’s both slim and intelligent on top of that is part of a very small percentage of women. It wouldn’t be realistic for the average man to only go for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 04:18 AM
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I’m a woman and I think it’s really difficult to be friends with someone you really like especially when they get into a relationship with someone else. It might be healthier to just not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 07:43 AM
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I have an appreciation for the metalheads growing up. I was a very shy, nervous and skittish kid and they were a very friendly and inviting bunch who helped me get out of my shell a bit. It’s a case of “don’t judge a book by its cover.” Every time my family made claims like that, I can’t help but remember them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:10 AM
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Yeah it doesn’t make the guy a bad person inherently but it does raise alarm bells because as you mentioned it is a very questionable form of consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:24 AM
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You’d be hard pressed to find anything that helps people find love. People expect it to happen naturally like it has for the rest of history, but in today’s world, that’s nearly impossible. People are more isolated than they’ve ever been.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:39 AM
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It’s difficult in different ways. Building muscle is not easy but the muscle gained stay in the long term. The primary way women become attractive is through constant work, like wearing makeup and hair removal. It’s not easy to spend the time and money to look good every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:07 AM
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Most younger dual income couples have a system where the chores and cooking are rotated on a weekly basis. That’s the most fair system for that kind of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:19 AM
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No not every woman would do it for the right price.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:33 AM
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It would be fair for me to be doing pretty much all of it most of the time. I agree that childcare is an exception mainly for the bonding aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:03 AM
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Someone I know got a bit of plastic surgery and it costed her $20k!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:00 PM
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You had to push passed your fears and actually talk to strangers and be vulnerable with them. Truly the dark ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:50 PM
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The problem is that young people don’t want to socialize. It’s a lack of trust in people’s intentions due to what they’ve seen through the internet combined with a lack of incentive. Why go out when you have all the entertainment and “socialization” from your couch? This is the first time in history people could “do it all” from home. People need time to adjust to it and figure out how to balance it with their need to build bonds and lifelong connections with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:46 PM
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I guess but it depends. The only reason I’m calling a guy that is as a reason for not wanting to date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 05:42 PM
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The ethics of our employment and purchasing decisions is very questionable. The point isn’t to demonize people’s decisions but to encourage thinking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 07:56 PM
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You don’t have to wonder. Women have been reading these stories before we even had the desire to date and pair up and it left a lasting impression. Yeah it’s at least partly to ensure a guy is as is invested as I am. It doesn’t help that we’ve seen plenty of examples in person to corroborate those fears.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:38 AM
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Yeah, the point of being career oriented is to support a family anyway unless you have chronic medical conditions or something. I don’t need a mansion or anything too big for life so it’s more about bringing kids into a good environment. I’m fine either way on kids too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 08:31 PM
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Both people wanting to and doing their best to make the other person happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 08:03 PM
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Something I forgot to address is the “How do you women know prostitution became legal in their area?” I knew about prostitution becoming legal in RI within the first week. Feminist websites and subs don’t waste time when it comes to keeping women informed on real world happenings that affect women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 07:58 PM
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Yes. When prostitution is legalized, it becomes extremely obvious very quickly. Sleazy and predatory men start touring and living there in droves and propositioning women who are just living their normal lives. Normal markets start shutting down and are replaced with businesses that cater to vices. Crime overall skyrockets even if rape itself goes down. Plus I also would have to question whether rape actually goes down. If the only reason a woman is having sex with is because she needs the money…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:41 PM
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Have you ever been homeless? Because anybody who’s ever been homeless will tell you that it’s cut decades off their lifespan with the amount of diseases/bacterial infections, theft of important possessions and attacks by dangerous people. What an insane thought to compare having a home to paid sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:34 PM
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There could be other reasons for that linked to the legalization, like women moving out of the state because they’re not comfortable living in a place where prostitution is legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:16 PM
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It means both. When I’m imagining myself with my future husband and our daughter, how do you think we get there?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:48 AM
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This, pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:37 AM
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But being husband material is a good thing. It means that a woman wants to have sex constantly and wants a family with you. So unless you don’t want kids, this shouldn’t be a bad thing. Being a sex object on the other hand means nothing else about you matters other than your appearance, how much skin you show and how much sex you have. You could develop a new medication or discover a new dinosaur and it wouldn’t matter. You will never be seen as someone to grow old with. That would be a miserabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 12:17 AM
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Our relationship trajectories would be so different if we were able to make fully informed choices. People always think about how they wouldn’t have dated someone if they truly knew them, but a lot of mistakes are made because we don’t know just how good of person someone really is too. That’s way tougher to admit though so props for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:24 PM
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No that would be very depressing. I think someone I know does and apparently everyone around her can tell. I kind of feel bad for her husband and hope that doesn’t get worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:12 PM
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And that sucked because marrying someone you actually love was the exception instead of the norm, getting married and having kids way too young was common and women who didn’t have any desires for children had to have them. Modern life sucks in many ways, but I’ll take living in a casual culture over that any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:02 AM
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Or maybe married people keep their robust sex lives private and only bring up their sex lives when it’s a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:45 AM
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I don’t think it’s a good idea to force people who prefer the modernized western lifestyle into it. That’ll bring problems of its own. They can do whatever they want as long as they’re not trying to involve me. That said people do seem a lot happier when they have something to look forward to everyday besides ⏰ and their job and dealing with miserable people when you work a people facing job. That’s just no way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:13 AM
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Women holding more power in governing branches would be great if they brought something different to the table than their male predecessors but they don’t. The only women who manage to gain power are ones who uphold the status quo. It becomes a matter of “Do you want a man who passes a bunch of laws nobody wants and gets millions mutilated and killed to dominate another country or do you want a women who’s doing more of the same?”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:17 AM
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I wouldn’t call myself completely independent for the reasons you outlined. But I’m not reliant on a man who’s not my dad or boss for money. I do contribute in rent and paying for groceries so I’m not completely dependent on my dad either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:25 PM
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She’s already in love with someone or they don’t treat her better than other women and that’s what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:07 PM
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Probably A but maybe a specific set of circumstances under B for some. I went through a lot of pain growing up and it made me avoidant if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:36 PM
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Been there. I was very lonely but minded my own business and just avoided guys I was attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:44 PM
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I got INFJ when I was a kid. The descriptors are pretty accurate too. I shifted a little more to the extroverted side as a grew older though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 03:31 AM
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True and I fully agree that you should show desire in some way. Its just tough when you’ve gone through your whole life with a fear of vulnerability and inability to fully trust someone enough to show that you desire them. Untreated mental health issues that have been around from a very young age can do a number on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:58 AM
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The only thing that makes sense is the guy believing you’ve done other sexual stuff just not intercourse. What can you do in that scenario but move on? Can’t really prove that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:46 AM
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There has been the occasional guy who thinks that waiting until marriage to lose your virginity is withholding sex, but it’s not very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:18 AM
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Good point! I’ve done my best to help my younger cousin with this since he has a crush on a girl. I told him to be direct but make it short. It’s not perfect advice and I think men would be better off learning from each other what works and paying attention in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:50 PM
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On my end I’d tell him to take care of his appearance, be a good person and have confidence, but look out for those who will take advantage of a good person. The rest I think he could learn from his father. Would probably be more useful than what he’d learn from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:25 PM
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Men acquire money after marriage because they’re getting the support from their wife to do so. It’s easier to go after an idea if you have someone taking care of all the basic life tasks. There’s also the fact that their wives often help them out with certain parts of the business that would be difficult to hire for and expensive. Intelligent men tend to marry intelligent women and they both build up the business in different ways. Additionally, a lot of single men tend to put a lot of effort in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:52 AM
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Mating for life is difficult to find a reason for evidently. It might be related to the parents needing longer periods of time to raise kids and is also a pattern in species that live in family groups, like wolves. But it is pretty rare so there’s no definite answer. The only thing we know for sure is that it helps individuals live longer lives. We could probably draw conclusions there. I read a study that shows that having a grandma below 75 increased 5 year old kids’ survival. It makes sense b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:33 AM
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Monogamy is natural for us though. A common theme you’ll notice among monogamous species is that their kids are very difficult to raise. It’s why 83% of birds are observed to be monogamous. Imagine a bird mom trying to keep her eggs/chicks warm, protect them from predators and get enough food for both chicks and herself. It’s difficult and she’s less likely to pull it off than the bird moms that have bird dad helping. Same thing except it take us years even just to get the kid walking. Polygyny …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:55 AM
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Sure but I already have a track record of being loyal and having unbreakable attachment when it comes to close friends and family. My life has never really been rainbows and sunshine, I’ve always had to be a problem solver while working through obstacles for a chance at decent outcomes. That’s what made me so confident I would have a lasting marriage. Also I’m not doing the best financially but I’m not in such financial straits that marrying just to have some financial assistance is on my mind..…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:20 AM
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Being expected to always be compliant and never question anything for starters. Im a very opinionated individual and people try to silence you noticeably more than they do for men for saying a fraction of what men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:20 AM
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It’s not always something desperate or for an urgent need. Sometimes we just learn a little more about what we want from experience. I thought personality didn’t make a difference in attraction until I spent years around someone with a great one and cared about me. You discover it’s much more complicated than you initially thought. I’ve never fallen for someone head over heels before then and and that’s not because I’ve never encountered anyone hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 08:14 PM
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Completely disagree. Getting to know a man well and feeling you can really trust and depend on him to do the right thing can absolutely spark or increase feelings for him. This would only be true if he wasn’t a good person or the reliable type.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 06:13 PM
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A woman who can lift that much is physiologically atypical. But no it’s not wrong to want that. The first one is a little unrealistic but the rest are pretty normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:55 PM
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He looks and just overall seems like a douchebag. That alone makes him unattractive. Being good looking isn’t enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:32 PM
1

That’s not a big priority for me, I seek out love and a marriage that puts me at ease. Can’t feel that way if I have to compete for a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:21 PM
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Women are opting to get the lucrative degrees and make good money themselves. Competing for men sounds like a total drag so this is the better option.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:55 AM
2

Honestly I don’t really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:36 AM
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As someone who’s grown up in a religious environment I’d never heard anyone say that you should have sex when you’re uncomfortable. I’ve only heard being faithful to your spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:46 AM
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Makes sense, if you’ve had multiple partners you’ve been intimate with you have a basis for comparison whereas if you’ve only had sex with your spouse, you decide whether it’s good or bad based off how the person makes you feel in the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:38 AM
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Cool! I know the amount of clothes worn is different in each location. I’ve seen both extremes personally (except fully naked and I’m very thankful for that)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:34 AM
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They remove it, but the base seed for the follicle is still there. On a deserted island with no tools for removal you’d see a lot of it on most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:31 AM
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No betting, just falling in love. If he brings economic success to the household that’s just a bonus and would create new ways to enjoy the love shared.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:35 AM
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Well I don’t think I’m considered conventionally attractive so I don’t know if it counts but I’ve fallen for someone who had a similar income.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:18 AM
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Same economic background.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 02:59 AM
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Yeah, if a guy has muscles form fitting clothes actually make him more manly, though I guess those guys could be gay still. But lots of guys in fitness wear those regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 01:11 AM
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There’s nothing manly about body hair, everybody has it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 01:07 AM
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Not a bad definition though the percentage largely depends on culture. For the U.S. this applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 12:59 AM
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It means showing off too much of your body relative to the environment you’re in. Like wearing a bikini to a carnival as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 12:53 AM
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Yeah having a crush on someone and being sexually attracted are very different. The former is based on appearance and the latter is based on his behavior towards me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 10:04 PM
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Guys around 5 years my age, no. Most of them are average.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 10:02 PM
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I mean you could just stay single and do 100% of the household chores as another option. Imagine if someone said that they shouldn’t have to do chores because they have a more difficult job to their roommates or their parents. Guess what their response would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 08:59 PM
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Why having to go through the whole nasty divorce process when I can just break it off with no repercussions if it doesn’t work out? I value my freedom more than the potential financial incentive I could get. I’d prefer to be a family unit, work through problems we have patiently and with respectful communication. I believe there’s value in bringing our families together and creating our own. I don’t understand how modern marriage in western countries makes you anybody’s property.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 06:15 AM
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Trust issues maybe. It could be the fear that he’s hiding something or not what he appears.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:13 AM
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If the other person seems to uncharacteristically lose motivation or fall into bad habits, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to address it. However keeping score itself will just feel antagonizing to them. At the end of the day, if something is lacking and it starts to bother you, there are ways of communicating that without appearing like you were going through the effort to bring up something negative. That would be unhealthy for the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:11 AM
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Scary times ahead! I always wish I could help others more but there’s just way too many people and way too much going on. Plus I can’t even afford to help my own self. So on the road to worse days we go. We need a miracle at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 11:09 PM
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I suppose you’re right. I’ll admit I’m a little guilty of that in the past but I’m slowly learning that patience pays off the other way too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 11:06 PM
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This does have a lot of truth to it but it’s difficult to move back from. The majority of people get married very late. What are women supposed to do, rely on their parents to bankroll them until 28? What about those of us with health expenses that need to be paid for? No job and no credit score just means you’ll be suffering silently for a very long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:31 PM
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Yeah that sounds like a setup to be love bombed. Plenty of women need time to get comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:56 PM
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I imagine things would change a lot after having sex regardless of how the timeline plays out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:54 PM
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After getting comfortable yeah. It’s similar to being neutral or cold with strangers but are fun with friends and family. Nobody expects that you will behave exactly the same as you did in the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:50 PM
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In what world? The majority of guys do, there’s even plenty of guys that surprised me about it too, the last guys you’d expect to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:30 PM
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extra horny and so infatuated by her in particular Is it bad to want a guy who wants you badly? Also that’s not the reasons for being sexually reserved, that’s safety and health outcomes. But I’d be lying if I said it’s not a nice bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:28 PM
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It’s part of two separate points in the OPs change.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:16 PM
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Not getting uptight, I’m upfront and prefer someone make informed decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:15 PM
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No it’s not the same. Doing nice things all the time for your husband is and should be standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:08 PM
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If you can tolerate this for the rest of your life and you’re fine with the possibility of never getting married then good for you. For those of us who have more reserved personalities and want to get married, this sounds like a recipe for disaster if it doesn’t work out in the long term. What’s the incentive to respect you if a guy gets what he wants regardless?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:16 PM
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Mines never declined even after years. I think a decline in love is caused by external factors rather than being a natural thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 10:00 PM
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No I don’t want my taxes to go up because other people couldn’t be bothered to pay for their own children. We already pay for their food, education, medicine and sometimes housing and all it’s done is make everything way more expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 08:10 PM
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You’re right but the sad thing is most of these women come from a background of poverty and/or low or no education. Usually their own parents made the same choice so it’s normal to them. They don’t see an alternative to having kids with their boyfriend and relying on the government for everything. These women need better role models frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:28 PM
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The reverse is a woman marrying a guy who’s super attractive. I’ve had a guy try this during my OLD days. In the end I just couldn’t in my right mind date a guy who obviously didn’t actually like me all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 08:21 PM
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Agreed. A society full of stressed and depressed people is a terrible place to live in overall and I live surrounded by it. I always wonder what a society full of people in their 20s who are happy and look forward to the next day would be like to live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:11 AM
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That’s so sad! He needs a grow a spine honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:03 AM
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That makes zero sense, some of us just hold ourselves to a high standard. You want someone great, you have to be great. Posting and just living it are two different things though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:57 PM
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Differing ideas of success absolutely plays a part. A compromise is necessary, but many would feel that compromising takes away from the success and makes it less than.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:51 PM
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I don’t see why the average women wouldn’t as long as it’s not at her expensive or him trying to gain leverage over her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:44 PM
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I think people are able to see this about marriages in general but when looking at their own marriage it’s a different story. Personally I trust my judgement and patience. Signing a prenup would set us as 2 different parts instead of a whole. Also keeping your assets separate would mean the debt collectors could go after your assets upon death before distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:21 PM
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Whatever works for each couple. I agree finances and whether you want to add any stipulations to the marriage should be discussed beforehand. I won’t say wanting a prenup is wrong, but it does seem to be like the couple doesn’t trust each other when they go into a marriage with one. However I understand why you’d want one in these times we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:27 PM
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That’s a really good point! Dividing the genders also helps to divide families which leads to people with fewer options in life but to take whatever the government and society at large wants them to. It’s like any other form of divide and conquer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 11:52 PM
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Do I need to decode this to get the regis?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:05 AM
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It doesn’t have to be approached that way. I’d much rather approach it with a positive mindset and the willingness to work through difficulties.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:37 AM
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Yes, it’s a milestone for love and provides a stable environment to raise children in. Has the added benefit of getting you more money from taxes and other tangible benefits as well. A man should pull his weight around the house when his wife is working. That’s a separate topic though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:34 AM
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I’m sure it’s happened to me before but I don’t really care. We’re not really that compatible to begin with if he requires sex quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:05 AM
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I’m almost 28 and never kissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:49 PM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:47 PM
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Yeah it’s just not realistic. Men can set their sights that high if they want, but their expectations of reality should be tempered a bit. A lot of us need to get to know someone well first.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:43 PM
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Yeah, having a crush on someone and imagining being intimate with him are very different things. The latter takes a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:00 AM
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Yeah, even with my overactive imagination I never imagine this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:56 AM
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This sounds like the most depressing relationship ever. Going to university sounds better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:49 AM
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Exactly! How can you raise your future daughters to only accept good men and future sons to be good men to their wives and vice versa if this is what they see during their formative years?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:16 AM
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He’s not Mr. Perfect if he’s not going to be completely exclusive with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:12 AM
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I would 100% expect him to be only having sex with me. I’m not accepting a relationship and marriage where I’m the only one who’s monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:02 AM
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That’s true, but I think the people saying that just don’t have good experiences with relationships. If a relationship feels more like job, makes your life more stressful, takes away your freedom and has more downsides than benefits, it can feel like being single is better. Of course most people would prefer to find someone dependable and that adds joy to your life than to be single, but that’s not realistic for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 01:32 AM
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It’s not controversial to say women are mentally weaker, it’s just flat out wrong. A lot of women just water down their intelligence for different reasons, such as using the calculated stupidity to get the upper hand or being taught growing up that it’s unfeminine to be and show that you’re smart. Everything else is well known and isn’t really questioned by the majority. EDIT: Ok I take that back, 3 is questioned a lot too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:52 AM
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It makes sense that she’s hurt and people do dumb shit when they’re hurt, but this is pretty trashy on her part. I hope she snaps out of it soon and apologizes and just moves on. On another point though I agree it’s annoying when a guy you’re not even dating dumps all his problems onto you, but she could’ve just told him to stop or not engaged much. They both seem like they need to be a little more responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 06:15 PM
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telling me that it just made me look desperate and low value. That’s pretty much the message women get, one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:02 PM
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No, if I like a guy I’m way to nervous to do that. Im always nervous when there’s a situation with a lack of familiarity, so it’s not unique to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:31 PM
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No way she posted that stuff after his baby was born! That’s crazy!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:10 AM
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I agree that’s the best way to go but everybody in my social circle is busy and scattered. Online dating can go either way, but you have to be really good at picking up the subtleties and be clear about what you’re looking for. Only one guy I went out with made me worry and that guy catfished me and completely misrepresented himself. That was the point I decided I had to quit OLD years ago. Beyond that, the guys have been good or at least decent. Which was fine with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:01 AM
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It pretty much resulted in me only dating guys I met on OLD. It gave me time to get to know them a bit and meet up in a place full of people like a cafe or restaurant. They can be addressed if people were actually allowed to defend others without getting in trouble. As it is, I’m on my own if I get into a bad situation. That actively puts me on the defensive at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:44 PM
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It really depends. There would be fewer good options who are single by that point. However if you’ve improved a lot since then, the ones who are might still be available. No guarantees in life though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:31 PM
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But a lot of the time women won’t show interest until they’re comfortable. She’ll likely be uncomfortable around a guy if she doesn’t know him or his intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:14 PM
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Very honest! But I kind of agree and would prefer a provider as well. I’m just not sure you could gauge that from a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:10 PM
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This has never happened to me so I can’t speak from past experience, but I’ll admit that it makes the guy seem like he doesn’t like me all that much or doesn’t see a future with me. But I’m open to being proven wrong so I’ll continue to go on dates if it otherwise went well. I just know from observation that men pretty much always want to pay for women they like and want where I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:06 PM
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This probably won’t make it to the top because it’s boring, but this is it right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:14 AM
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For men it wouldn’t make a difference. Physical attraction is just one thing I look for, I also look for somebody who treats me well and I can get comfortable with. Also I’m already in love with someone and can’t fall for more than one guy at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:49 PM
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Kind of but mainly because I think I won’t stand a chance if that’s who he keeps as company. I don’t want to waste my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 07:29 PM
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But women liking really tall and muscular partner shows they atleast like physical dominance No it doesn’t. That’s about specific behaviors not physical features. A guy doesn’t need to be either of those to exhibit that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 07:24 PM
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There was a point where I thought this but later realized my untreated depression and the mentality it directly lead to held me back a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 07:10 PM
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Not that much of a difference. Sexual violence is just one of many things women worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:46 PM
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Also having kids with the man you love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:41 AM
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Why wouldn’t women desire sex? Our species would’ve gone the way of the panda if we didn’t. How do you believe we got to 8 billion people exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:14 AM
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Love and satisfaction. Having someone who thinks differently from you and brings a different perspective is also great.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:59 AM
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Hey don’t get the wrong idea, I love a good plot with some drama behind it too. Makes for a more interesting story. In real life it’s just cringey though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:32 AM
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The way the media acts like stable, happy marriages don’t exist and you should just date around all the time to prevent bad situations is so toxic. There are good reasons to divorce but that doesn’t make the majority bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:51 PM
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Oh gotcha, that makes more sense. I agree that sometimes it’s better to just let someone calm down before saying anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:47 PM
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That’s just going to lead to resentment. Communication is better in those situations depending on what exactly acting out or hurting you means. It’s easy to get lost in your head and when you’re a nervous wreck because of strong attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:11 AM
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There’s plenty of us though whether it’s to the same extent is unknown. I don’t really like the culture of buying stuff all the time, especially in these times where things break down and get updated quicker each year.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:09 AM
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Damn that’s depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:02 AM
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Not date someone who posts pictures like that. Date someone who’s openly espouses similar beliefs. If not possible, just date someone who already dresses conservatively all the time even in social media pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 06:31 PM
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No thanks, I would much rather marry a guy around my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:05 PM
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If a guy does everything you want and expect of him, from the first moment around, and he bends over backwards. RUN. Literally this is the best working tactic to get into your pants and it works with literally every woman I know. Has a chance of working out better if you have a spine and are consistent though. Whether that’s a good thing though really depends on if he’s consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:09 AM
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Birth control is one helluva drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:00 AM
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That’s just what happens when you focus on getting the woman out of your league and who are easy without any consideration for other traits. This wouldn’t happen if you focus on finding someone who’s compatible and has good character.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 10:02 PM
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If anything I’d be going on trips with him too and he wouldn’t have to question that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 10:21 AM
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Are they? Those women tend to be cheated on a lot and ironically the men have a habit of leaving them for women who don’t chase men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:55 AM
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Yeah pretty much. Being a masculine gentleman essentially. That’s what I grew up seeing around me and want that for myself too. It’s not about getting leverage or any negative attributes. I just want to know a guy fully love me before I put my full energy and commitment. It’s not like he’ll be the one taking the initiative forever anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:40 AM
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Women like this when they’re the exception to it. Speaking from experience, I want a man who’s traditional, but not for every woman he comes across. It’s about looking for markers of a lifelong monogamy. That’s how entire species become that way, the individuals of each gender seek out those with monogamous behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:44 AM
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