You’re complaining that you don’t like the way women drop hints and flirt while simultaneously claiming men do all the work. Omg this is the truest of all words ever. Women don't realize that they DONT drop hints when they think they are. If the man is not clearly recognizing your hints, then YOU are the one failing, not the man.
See that's the difference. I don't have trouble with women. I still feel this way, idk it's easier to say when you are in a relationship, but most guys forget how hard it is once they get into a relationship of their own.
You need to stop being friends with this individual. If I was that guy and a woman ever dared to view me in that way and didn't let me know. I would be FURIOUS. you are dishonest to him. IDC the years, stop lying or otherwise remove yourself from him his life.
There's not enough info to make that assumption. I've been in bed with girls I dated who made it clear they didn't want sex. I've been in bed with girls who are my friends for decades and we just crashed after a concert, fully platonic. I'll be going to bed here with my wife shortly, does that mean she absolutely wants sex? The woman's failure to communicate is not the failure of the man. "didn't read it right" or otherwise.
Women just should not be justifying this. When is the timing of the move correct? Why is the man expected to make it at just the right time? Is there a formula or is it just carte blanche for making it so that the woman is never wrong? But if you can't see how a man hesitates due to the constant threat of a woman being able to lie about him, then you don't understand men, like at all.
So what then when a girl drops hints and the guy acts, but she denies that she dropped the hints in the first place? I've had two girls do this to me. The first one refuses to admit it. The second one just got exposed to her long time friend that she did that to me. As in she was fully receptive to all my advances, face, look, eyes, head on shoulder, everything. But always in private, just me and her, while actively denying it to her friends. All of which is being exposed.
So fucking pathetic. Clearly there was enough chemistry to get to bed together. Clearly the intent was to become more than friends. So if she wanted to be just friends, then don't ever at all let it get further.
I have deeply rooted issues with initiating romantic contact with women. Women that have fully told me that they are willing to kiss me and have sex. Clear as day. Due to a wild number of traumas at a young age I've endured initiating, sex and even kissing is an incredibly difficult thing for me. I've been told I am attractive many times throughout my life. And most all my female Friends will say that I don't have difficulty in getting a date or generating womanly romantic interest in general. I…
This is absolutely pathetic. If a woman isn't willing to make clear her intent with a man to that man. Then she is gaslighting herself. Doesn't matter if the woman is receptive to the man's advances, if she does not let him know through escalation on her end she is just a child. Be clear, use your words and if necessary make the first move.
No they didn't. The moment you project romantic attempt on someone your relationship is forever changed. If you haven't told him that you saw that as a date. Then you absolutely need to tell him. Doesn't matter what the case is, you absolutely must tell him you saw that as a date.
Yes I've had your response before too. Simple fact is, women treating men like shit isn't actually that uncommon. I have actually a really long detailed journal spanning many many interactions I've had with women in college, professional, and personal settings. The truth is what you claim that women don't do is something that I've seen incredibly frequently. Even the nature of your response is falling back on anecdotal evidence. I know so many women that have cheated. I know so many women that c…
And this is the typical reaction I get from women when I share this stuff. Usually it's followed by another experience and another one. Thing is women just flatly refuse to acknowledge the fucked up nature of women. And if I keep pressing it turns into "so what I don't care that other women do this stuff, I just want to talk about men" it's just something about the female brain where it refuses to acknowledge the evil nature of other women.
They are biologicaly inclined towards hypocritical opinions of men. They are also biologicaly incapable of admitting the terrible nature of other women.
Don't give af. It's rare that a woman ever at all reaches a point where they admit fully the truth of their actions and intentions, especially to men. Again, until the direct level of hypocrisy is exposed, women will deny deny deny.
Maybe. But I'm in my mid30s with loooooooots of non romantic experience with women and I've only ever seen one woman ever take sides against another. Its not fairly obvious to women that they do this until it is pointed out to them in their life.
The gaslighting is what the man is suffering at the hands of the women berating him. And yes not telling your sexual history is gaslighting. If a man says he does not want a woman with large number of romantic partners, that is his choice and right. A woman that does not tell him the truth or hides her romantic past in any way is manipulating and gaslighting him.
That's true and I agree with you on your major points, but the focus here is on the gaslighting that the guy is suffering because of this. That's not ok and women who do that are not good people.
Yesss and that's what I'm saying too. She introduced him to a person that sees her as a fuck toy because she doesn't see him as person worth valuing. She doesn't value herself and yet demands it from the other guy. If she really wanted to be treated with respect she should cut off all ties from her promiscuous past. She is in the wrong for even considering the guy in that way and even more in the wrong for making him wait so long to fuck her. If she is free pussy to someone else why does the guy…
But you are. By implying in anyway that the girl was ok with what she did. If she had casual sex with someone, she should not be introducing her new BF to the girl that she did it with. The day she and her gf had sex with another man together they knew they couldn't introduce their guys to each other.