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| 25 | The life of an RP man is a constant struggle. | Beneneb | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 01:12 AM |
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| -1 | Even if a research proved tomorrow that women's standards are 110% delusional they are still entitled to itI mean yeah but if you're a picky eater you don't get to act like a food critic and shit talk everything else on the menu like its from a place of refinement. You very much can actually do that. Welcome to being human, people are hypocritical and illogical all the time, both men and women. It's not limited to dating, to women or to online communities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 11:50 PM |
| 4 | Therapy is harmful and doesn't actually help women. Men should not go to therapy.Thanks for posting this. OP has absolutely no idea what they're talking about. They've clearly never been to therapy, don't understand how it works and are making this post based on a complete misunderstanding of what therapy is while acting like an expert. Total cringe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/25 02:12 PM |
| 6 | Most people, regardless of political affiliation, believe men who date trans women are gay or bisexual.I feel like you're trying to make a point here... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/25 11:06 PM |
| 4 | Most people, regardless of political affiliation, believe men who date trans women are gay or bisexual.I'm not sure I get the point of the post then. Probably a lot of people would view it as being gay, but obviously not everyone. Either way, doesn't make them correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/25 11:05 PM |
| 14 | Most people, regardless of political affiliation, believe men who date trans women are gay or bisexual.The counter point to your argument is that actual gay men, and I mean men who would typically identify as gay, are near exclusively not attracted to trans women. Which makes sense, because gay guys aren't attracted to women, or by extension, people who present/identify as women. It's like assuming straight men would be attracted to trans men. Yes, they're biologically female, but they identify and present as men, which is not really attractive to straight men. Obviously not all straight men are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/25 10:29 PM |
| 57 | Society Hates Men Who Adapt to the "New Normal" Created by FeminismI would consider myself to be well adapted to the current landscape and have never been villainized for it. The same is true for most men I know. I think you're creating a bit of a straw man and blowing things out of proportion. I think you want to believe this is true because it will help you rationalize your distaste for the current state of things, but it's just not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/25 12:52 AM |
| – | The end of Roe v Wade has been a disaster for men, women and datingDoes consent to sex mean consent to being a parent? Yes or no? It absolutely means you consent to the possibility. If the outcome of sex is a child, you are responsible. That goes for the man and woman. What I disagree with is that they get to unilaterally decide to be a parent and force the guy to be on the hook for their choice. They don't! You make the decision to have sex, fully understanding that this is a possibility. The women gets to decide whether to go through with the pregnancy becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/24 03:38 PM |
| – | The end of Roe v Wade has been a disaster for men, women and datingA major argument pro-choice uses is that consent to sex isn't consent to parenthood. Same logic should apply to men. Everyone is responsible for their actions. Pro choice argument falls apart of you take away the bodily autonomy aspect of it. Apply this same logic to women who can't get abortions. If they let a guy nut inside them then apparently they made their choice to have a kid then. A women without access to an abortion doesn't have bodily autonomy the way a man does and is being forced to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/24 01:55 PM |
| 2 | The end of Roe v Wade has been a disaster for men, women and datingCould literally say that to every woman who gets pregnant and wants an abortion. This is ironically a very common prolife argument. That's true, but giving a woman the choice of an abortion is about bodily autonomy. It's equal because it gives both men and women the ability to control what happens to their bodies. A paper abortion has zero to do with bodily autonomy. The difference is only chronological here. If you decide not to wear a condom, you've made your choice. The fact that a women's ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/24 05:21 AM |
| 3 | The end of Roe v Wade has been a disaster for men, women and datingI mean, it's biology at the end of the day, women have final say since it's their body. Abortion being legal doesn't mean men are entitled to opt out of supporting their own child. You're responsible for being cautious about who you sleep with and wearing a condom. And I say this as a guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/24 04:50 AM |
| – | Men's addiction and dependence on porn is because of womenLet's flip the scenario. If you had a girlfriend/wife who cheated on you, would you accept responsibility for failing to satisfy her? Probably not. We're all responsible for our own actions. If you're with someone who you aren't sexually compatible with, then maybe the relationship isn't meant to be. It's not surprising that your comment was deleted since it's not only misogynistic as you acknowledge, but also really immature and lacking in self awareness. Until you take responsibility for your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 03:24 PM |
| 1 | CMV: In today's age, men are expected to take on both the feminine AND the masculine roles in a relationship, while women are only expected to take on the feminine roles.I mean, a lot of this just comes down to making sure you're in a relationship with someone who is compatible with you. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with either being super meat or super messy, but a super neat and a super messy person probably wouldn't make a good couple. The majority of couples these days are both working full time jobs. Therefore, most people would expect domestic chores would be about equally split. I don't think it's an anomaly for a person of either sex t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/23 03:27 PM |
| 2 | CMV: In today's age, men are expected to take on both the feminine AND the masculine roles in a relationship, while women are only expected to take on the feminine roles.And yet, there are plenty of homes where the woman is the primary breadwinner and the man stays home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/23 02:01 PM |
| 2 | CMV: In today's age, men are expected to take on both the feminine AND the masculine roles in a relationship, while women are only expected to take on the feminine roles.Ok, what would your conclusion be if I said women are unlikely to date a man who doesn't work? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/23 01:47 PM |
| 9 | CMV: In today's age, men are expected to take on both the feminine AND the masculine roles in a relationship, while women are only expected to take on the feminine roles.Well your comment now is equally applicable to either sex. Whether you're a man or woman, if your partner is being lazy and not contributing to tasks that need to get done, it's a problem. This isn't something that's only applicable to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/23 01:40 PM |
| 4 | CMV: In today's age, men are expected to take on both the feminine AND the masculine roles in a relationship, while women are only expected to take on the feminine roles.The fact that a woman in a relationship works does not mean that the man expects it/demands it as some requirement for the relationship to exist. Most men, including myself, would be unlikely to consider dating a woman who refuses to work and just wants to stay home. I think your statement is pretty disconnected with how most men feel these days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/23 01:33 PM |
| 3 | Divorce rate after 5 years hops from 7% to 18% to 30% for people who have 0, 1, and 2 premarital partners respectively. After that, it stabilizes in the 30s for 3+ partners.I'm not saying the study is flawed. What I'm saying is that, from an organization like this, they will only present you with information that supports a particular narrative, and not necessarily a balanced view on all the research. Further, the conclusion that they, and OP are drawing from this study are probably flawed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 03:47 PM |
| 6 | Divorce rate after 5 years hops from 7% to 18% to 30% for people who have 0, 1, and 2 premarital partners respectively. After that, it stabilizes in the 30s for 3+ partners.I agree completely. The best way to avoid getting cheated on or divorced is to find someone who works really well for you and who you completely trust. I think these statistics are more about justifying people's insecurities. Let's be honest, a lot of these guys would be bothered by women having previous partners regardless of what the statistics showed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 03:45 PM |
| 11 | Divorce rate after 5 years hops from 7% to 18% to 30% for people who have 0, 1, and 2 premarital partners respectively. After that, it stabilizes in the 30s for 3+ partners.That's absolutely the reason they're getting divorced less, not because they're happier or have a better relationship. It's a classic example of correlation doesn't mean causation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 02:24 PM |
| 1 | Divorce rate after 5 years hops from 7% to 18% to 30% for people who have 0, 1, and 2 premarital partners respectively. After that, it stabilizes in the 30s for 3+ partners.This is what a low value man sounds like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 12:30 PM |
| 9 | Divorce rate after 5 years hops from 7% to 18% to 30% for people who have 0, 1, and 2 premarital partners respectively. After that, it stabilizes in the 30s for 3+ partners.The sources are coming from a right wing, socially conservative, christian organization that's specific goal is to find science to support traditional families. In that context, it's not surprising why they would focus on women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 12:27 PM |
| 8 | Bar is too Low for men .They dont even do bare minimumI've dated quite a few women, never really cared about how many previous partners they had, I can tell you only one had an n count above 10. It probably depends on the type of women you go after, but it's not all that common to have high n counts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 01:06 PM |
| 2 | Sex tourism is only considered wrong when it is done by men because most of society is so sexist it only ascribes agency to men.Do you know a lot of SE Asian prostitutes or something? You're right, I have never engaged in that at all, but I'm skeptical that most of these women aren't being taken advantage of in some form. You even see this commonly happening in developed countries where prostitution is still illegal because it attracts organized crime given it's so profitable as you point out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Sex tourism is only considered wrong when it is done by men because most of society is so sexist it only ascribes agency to men.The main issue with sex tourism in Asia and eastern Europe is that many of the women are being trafficked and are effectively enslaved and forced to do this work against their will. To add on to that, many minors are also forced into the sex trade. I really have no idea if this is also happening to the men you are talking about in Africa, but if it is, then it is absolutely equally wrong. However, if adults enter into this work willingly, I don't think there is an issue with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 07:54 PM |
| 10 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenThe fact that someone doesn't give you their partners number so that you can harass them doesn't mean they think their partner will cheat ok them. Just FYI. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 02:12 PM |
| 1 | Where did this idea that younger women make better partners come from?Personally, if I married the girl I was dating at 25, I'd be divorced right now, and that would sure suck. People change a lot through their 20s, which is exactly why that relationship didn't work and why I think it's a bad idea in general to marry that young. It is a scientific fact that your brain continues to develop into your mid 20s, so people aren't fully mature before then. I'm not saying you shouldn't date or even live together before then, but there's little benefit to making a life lon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/22 08:25 PM |
| 5 | Where did this idea that younger women make better partners come from?It takes little confidence to pursue younger women, that's not what holds back most men. Most men will not pursue a relationship with a younger woman because it's very hard to establish a meaningful connection. Look at all the reason people are listing for why they prefer a much younger woman. It's pretty well summarized as a general lack of life experience. Why do some men prefer lack of experience? Because they are insecure and are afraid that they won't measure up to previous partners and are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/22 04:16 AM |
| 2 | Where did this idea that younger women make better partners come from?Why would we want less single people over 25? I would never suggest that anyone get married that young personally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/22 04:03 AM |
| 30 | Age gap relationships are generally shamed by bitter older womenYou should talk to some dads and gauge what their thoughts would be if their 18 year old daughter brought home a 30+ year old. I don't think you'll find many who would be happy about that. Most would be much happier to see a guy around her age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Age gap relationships are generally shamed by bitter older womenYou've sort of acknowledged this already, but just because the law deems you to be an adult at 18, it doesn't mean you are mature enough to make a lot of these decisions. The brain typically doesn't stop developing until around 25 and many young adults in their late teens and early 20s are much more prone to making rash and poor decisions because of this. Point being, there's a difference between what's legally acceptable and what's morally acceptable. Guys in their 30s and up who are trying to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 02:16 PM |
| 4 | I see countless times women say they are cool with not being in a relationship. Then why even date?The point of your post is that women don't offer much besides cooking and cleaning for you and you seem bitter that they would believe they are good for anything else. I'm saying that nobody is buying what you're selling, and if you don't like that women have self worth, then just don't date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 01:45 PM |
| 5 | I see countless times women say they are cool with not being in a relationship. Then why even date?I really don't think anyone here is trying to convince you to date. If you don't think you get anything out of a relationship than just don't get into one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 01:22 PM |
| 10 | I see countless times women say they are cool with not being in a relationship. Then why even date?Normal healthy relationships are supposed to be mutually beneficial with each party offering up a lot. I have yet to date a woman who thinks that simply being in her presence is enough to offer up as you describe. It's a complete hyperbole and doesn't reflect the vast majority of women in my experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 01:17 PM |
| 0 | Your partner should be your best friend. Everything else is just details.Yes, that's a fair point. Every ltr I've been in started out romantically and developed into a deep friendship over time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 04:11 PM |
| 3 | Your partner should be your best friend. Everything else is just details.If you choose to be with someone primarily for sex, you're going to get bored pretty quick. You need a strong and deeper connection to make things work long term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 04:03 PM |
| 3 | Relationship with the " Bad boy " is labeled as toxic only cause the woman invest more in the relationshipWell it is obviously very important for you to see yourself as a "real" man. And you're more than welcome to only want to marry virgins. I wish you the best of luck in that endeavor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/22 09:23 PM |
| 5 | Relationship with the " Bad boy " is labeled as toxic only cause the woman invest more in the relationshipProbably because finding a virgin to marry is not a priority for them. Tbh, unless you're very religious, most men and women are going to have at least a few partners before they marry. It's not really a big deal to most people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/22 09:17 PM |
| 5 | Relationship with the " Bad boy " is labeled as toxic only cause the woman invest more in the relationshipThat's a nice loaded question. Girls don't exclusively lose their virginity to "bad boys", and "bad boys" aren't exclusively banging virgins. I'm probably as far from the bad boy stereotype as you can get and I've had no problem dating since I was 18. There is a significant segment of the female population who want nothing to do with those kind of guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/22 07:38 PM |
| 3 | Relationship with the " Bad boy " is labeled as toxic only cause the woman invest more in the relationshipMost mature and put together guys have no problem getting girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/22 06:35 PM |
| 1 | Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a manMy own experiences have shown that this is fiction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/22 01:43 PM |
| 2 | Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a manIf you think this is fiction then either you don't have much experience with women, or you're only going after a very particular type of woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/22 07:48 PM |
| 7 | What does Average Adam have to offer for ANYONEI would recommend working on those trust issues, because it's not going to do you any favors in life, you're just going to miss out on good opportunities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/22 11:52 PM |
| 3 | What does Average Adam have to offer for ANYONEI was going to write something along these lines, but you summed it up quite well. We are all unique individuals with different preferences and different things to offer. I think OP overlooks this and assumes that every average guy and average girl are identical. Two average people (or any two people really) can have a very fulfilling and successful relationship because their unique characteristics just happen to make them very compatible with each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/22 11:29 PM |
| 10 | What does Average Adam have to offer for ANYONEMaybe she has slept around or maybe she hasn't. If the fact that she could find sex easily bothers you, that's your problem, not hers. Any decent relationship has to be founded on trust, and if you can't trust your partner it won't work out. Not once in any relationship have I found myself preoccupied that my GF could go on tinder and cheat on me, because I trusted them. I've also never been cheated on. It sounds like the problem here is that you have deep insecurity issues, and the only person … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/22 11:25 PM |
| 0 | Men without money hit the wall way harder than the average womanIt's a coping mechanism for all the bitter men here. They're resentful that they aren't successful with women and so they tell themselves that those same women will go through the same thing once they hit "the wall". It's not true at all. Who do you think single men in their 30s and 40s are dating? Single women in their 30s and 40s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/22 06:52 PM |
| 7 | Many women fight for equality but only when it suits themIt's not irrelevant. Your point is that women only want equality when it benefits them. The fact that many women would be happy paying more if they out earned their partner completely undermines your point. You're just ignoring evidence that contradicts what you want to believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 12:34 AM |
| 2 | Many women fight for equality but only when it suits themThe thing is OP, I don't think there is necessarily an objective right or wrong answer as to what is fair here, and each couple may have their own preferences on how to handle this. But speaking as a guy, if I made significantly more than my partner, I certainly wouldn't insist that she pay half of all expenses as I personally don't believe that's fair. Demanding that sounds a bit petty in my opinion if I'm being honest. In my view, there is much more to a relationship than just the financials. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 12:23 AM |
| 6 | Has male cognitive dissonance towards women, completely taken over this sub?Women frame it that way on purpose. They will stretch to ridiculous lengths to reduce it to that so they can dismiss the problem and call the men selfish. Which women? All women? Just certain women? This is part of my issue, which is that comments like this just makes me think you see all women as a homogenous group to help justify your disdain for them. Appeal to nature fallacy. Just because it is natural, doesn't mean it is good. Why should your biological whims be catered to? Humans have a ve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 10:47 PM |
| 3 | Has male cognitive dissonance towards women, completely taken over this sub?Well I'm sorry I misunderstood what you were implying, but I didn't intentionally do it. Here's the thing, I think most woman would have sympathy for men who struggle with dating and relationships. The problem I see is that some men will frame it in such a way that women are to blame for them not being able to get sex. Taking such a position will obviously not garner much support from women. The other issue here is that there really isn't a solution to the problem. Attraction is an innate biolog… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 09:53 PM |
| 16 | Has male cognitive dissonance towards women, completely taken over this sub?Well can you not see the difference between systemic and institutional discrimination of women and some men having a tough time getting sex? Like it's not even remotely the same thing at all. What's worse, subjugating half the population to extract sex out of them, or letting everyone be free to live their lives how they want, but some men have a hard time finding sex? The fact that you are implying women are entitled simply for wanting equal rights to men is concerning to say the least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 08:35 PM |
| 10 | Has male cognitive dissonance towards women, completely taken over this sub?So the problem is not really that most men struggle to get sex, it's that they struggle to get casual sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 08:18 PM |
| 14 | Has male cognitive dissonance towards women, completely taken over this sub?The difference between now and then is that women had few rights and were often forced or heavily pressured into marriage. So ya, that is kind of bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 08:16 PM |
| 8 | Women want to make all of these ridiculous rules, be insanely selective and play well above their league but then refuse to acknowledge that the ONLY thing affording them this luxury is that men are significantly hornierThe point is most women refuse to even date at their level That's really not true though. Most men manage to find women at their level to date. Just because you have trouble with this, it doesn't mean it's a universal problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 12:28 AM |
| 6 | Women are dishonest about what they are attracted to in menAnd if their wants are delusional, and they have no interest in improving themselves, people are allowed to criticize them for it. If women as a whole had delusional expectations around dating, then most women wouldn't end up in relationships. But that's not what happens. Short guys, fat guys, ugly guys, shy guys, they all manage to find women to date. Saying that all women want a 6'4" millionaire to date is as true as saying all men want a 10/10 supermodel to date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 02:36 AM |
| 1 | The idea that “if you were truly good looking/socially savvy you wouldn’t be struggling” is a huge fallacy here. Due to women’s inflated egos, even attractive men struggle.What are the results supposed to be? I'm a fairly average guy and have never had much issue when I did online dating. I even include that in 5' 7" on my profile. Not that I'm matching with every girl, but I could usually get a few dates per week if I wanted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/22 09:33 AM |
| 7 | This sub just doesn’t believe in loveSelf work to improve yourself doesn't make you less you. Life is a journey and we all have baggage and things we could work on and improve. The idea that any deviation from your current state would make you less you is just going to keep you miserable and gives you a convenient excuse not to work on yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 05:22 PM |
| 7 | If standards are 'on the floor' for men, how high is the floor?rape = any encounter that was unpleasant or regretted at a later date Women are people = i want the fun parts of equality, but not the not-so-fun parts The fact that you go there immediately is exactly the problem raised by the person you just responded to. That sort of attitude is going to lose you the majority of quality women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 05:11 AM |
| 1 | True or false, women on this sub are more likely NOT representative of the majority of the population but the men on here AREIt's a slightly more extreme version of what most men experience but It's not fundamentally different. I don't know about that. I know a few guys who've experienced a fair bit of hardship in the dating world, but it's a small minority. The vast majority of guys I know have had what I think are typical dating experiences, dating around and being in a few LTRs before settling down. I'm far from a stereotypically attractive, outgoing guy myself and basically do the opposite of what guys recommend o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/22 06:18 PM |
| 1 | True or false, women on this sub are more likely NOT representative of the majority of the population but the men on here AREYa, as a guy myself, I don't know any guys irl like the men in this sub. I know it's anecdotal but I highly doubt the men in this sub are a representative sample of the real world. Of course, I would say that goes for Reddit in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/22 06:02 PM |
| 11 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?They actually are many places. In Canada, you get 12 months parental leave which can be split up between the mother and father however you want. Also, many work places offer paternity leave. It hasn't really changed the fact that women remain the primary caregivers for children though. Still nice though, I know a lot of guys who have been able to take a month or two off to help their wives after childbirth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Why is promiscuity encouraged?I think you're just trying to convince yourself that people who like casual sex are bad. It sounds like insecurity on your end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/22 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Why is promiscuity encouraged?It kind of seems like the opposite to me. You and many people here seem to be quite judgmental of people who are promiscuous. This is generally the way it has always been, with ridiculous laws like banning sex outside marriage. I think you are making sex out to be a way bigger deal than it is. While I think society is much more accepting of casual sex these days, I certainly don't see a stigma against people who prefer sex within relationships. Sex isn't a big deal. People here are acting like h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/22 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Why is promiscuity encouraged?You can still easily do both. A lot of people don't want to have kids until their late 20s or 30s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/22 06:20 PM |
| 0 | Men in marriages where the woman makes more money are more likely to cheat on their wives. What is driving these pressures?Well the difference in cheating rates is quite small, only 3%. It could be a number of factors and correlation does not mean causation. Perhaps these women tend to be much be more career focussed and neglect their role in the relationship more often. So their husbands may be less satisfied which leads them to cheat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/21 09:57 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Since women are attracted to “bad boys” during their 20s and then settle down with the “nice guy” by the time they reach 30, that just means that pursuing healthy relationships with women is pointless.I mean, you're basically saying correlation is strong evidence for causation unless it isn't. That's the point. Correlation can very often be explained by reasons other than causation, hence the warning correlation does not mean causation and hence why it's incorrect to make a blanket statement that correlation is strong evidence for causation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 09:53 PM |
| -1 | CMV: Since women are attracted to “bad boys” during their 20s and then settle down with the “nice guy” by the time they reach 30, that just means that pursuing healthy relationships with women is pointless.Correlation is not equal to causation, but it is very strong evidence for causation. This is why we need better stats education. It is absolutely not and completely depends on the situation. It's remarkably easy to find two completely unrelated things that correlate with each other. This is part of why stats are so easy to manipulate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 11:20 AM |
| 2 | CMV: You (men) resent today’s embracing of authentic female sexuality because it’s no longer being done on YOUR terms and in ways that are convenient for you.What part don't you agree with? That men don't like that women have more freedom now? I think it depends, most men here seem to hate it and would prefer a return to the 1950s. But in general, I think most men don't mind the way things are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 02:10 AM |
| 3 | CMV: You (men) resent today’s embracing of authentic female sexuality because it’s no longer being done on YOUR terms and in ways that are convenient for you.Women are responsible for paying for their children, as is the father. Welfare is to help poor people. Men can also go on welfare, does that mean men aren't expected to pay for themselves. I think you're grasping at straws here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 02:04 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: How would you feel if you saw your male love interest/boyfriend/husband cryingIt seems like you can only view this issue in one extreme or the other and so you end up missing the point. Woman are people, and people are flawed. Different people have different flaws. I have no doubt that some women don't like guys to show emotion, and plenty of guys don't like to show emotion. That's unfortunate, but not everyone is like that. You can't control the way other people feel or act, but you can choose what kind of people to associate with. Your extreme bitterness towards woman i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 07:02 PM |
| 8 | Q4W: How would you feel if you saw your male love interest/boyfriend/husband cryingWell I'm sorry for your dating experiences, but I'm certainly not lying. Maybe you just have bad taste in women. I'm don't date people that don't have similar values to me, so I'm assuming that weeds out the bad ones. This is just my own experience, but the people I date and associate with don't act the way you describe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 05:31 PM |
| 13 | Q4W: How would you feel if you saw your male love interest/boyfriend/husband cryingYou'd have to be some kind of a psychopath to lose respect for a guy because he cried/showed emotion. Having been through a number of relationships, I was never with a girl that wasn't supportive when I cried. Now there are some fucked up people out there, but I don't think it's in any way common for woman to lose respect for a guy if he cries, if anything, girls get upset when guys don't show emotion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 01:25 PM |
| 1 | Your dating woes are probably your fault.You're the only one who can make that happen, so no point complaining about it online. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 08:24 PM |
| 2 | What's your shallowest turnoff ?Have you ever dated anyone with depression? My ex went through depression, and I feel bad saying this because it wasn't her fault, but she became terrible during and after it. Just mean all the time, always freaking out at me for no reason, being manipulative, etc. She wasn't like that at all beforehand, it ended a 9 year relationship. There's no way I'd ever subject myself to something like that again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/21 12:39 AM |
| 1 | Just be nazi theoryI don't see it that way at all. Women and men are both people, and women, like men, have many flaws. At the same time, women can also be disadvantaged in society compared to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 03:16 PM |
| 2 | Just be nazi theoryLots of people are saying this proves women are terrible. I'd like to see the same experiment with a women. I guarantee you hoards of desperate men would be lining up to sleep with a hot nazi. I don't think this is a gender thing, so much as a people thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 01:22 AM |
| 2 | Just be nazi theoryIt's not overly obvious, I didn't notice it at first, so I would guess a lot of people who are swiping through photos would have missed it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Just be nazi theoryI would be interested to see the same experiment with a female profile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 11:17 PM |
| 1 | Explain to monkeIf we really had autonomy over our finances we wouldn't have to pay taxes, but that's a whole other issue. Men have just as much autonomy over their wallets as women do. Someone has to provide for children when they're born and the parents should bear that responsibility before society. To me it's really irrelevant that the woman has final say on an abortion. Both parties know the consequences of sex, and part of consenting to sex is consenting to the potential consequences. So if the risk is to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 01:45 AM |
| 1 | Explain to monkeOf all the women I've slept with, only one didn't like using condoms. The rest were insistent on them both for STDs and the avoid pregnancy. That's just my experience, but I think there are very few women who see sex as risk free. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Explain to monkeOutside of America? Does your country jail for nonpayment of child support? I meant to say that conservatives are pro choice here. You don't go to jail for not paying child support, but they can do things like suspending your driver's license. There's a lot of guys who seem to care about abortion remaining legal Ya, I literally don't know anyone who's pro life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 06:41 PM |
| 2 | Explain to monkeFirst of all, I don't actually think this is unfair to men. It's a bodily autonomy issue, and both sexes should have it. For women, that means the choice to have an abortion. Both parents have the same responsibilities should the child be born, which is fair. This could only be considered unfair in the same way some people say it's unfair that female athletes get paid less. Well, everyone has the right to play sports, but men are bigger, stronger and faster and so they get paid more. Men and wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Explain to monkeThat's not why we have abortion rights for women. We have abortion rights because women should be allowed to have autonomy over their bodies. I don't consent to losing money when I invest in stocks, but sometimes shit happens. If you can't handle the risk, then don't have sex. Requiring men to pay for their children is not the same as removing bodily autonomy from women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 06:24 PM |
| 2 | Explain to monkeEven the conservatives are pro choice where I live, so that's not something I need to worry about. Also, I'm not a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Explain to monkeWomen can have sex and enjoy it without worrying about the consequences. This quote sums up this sub so well. Women's bodies get fucked by pregnancy. I guarantee you women are way more worried about the consequences of sex then men. Who's the person in the relationship that usually wants to get rid of the condom? Almost always the guy. To use your point against you, women also KNEW sex would result in pregnancy so it's 100% THEIR responsibility to pay for the baby's future if they DECIDE to keep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:59 PM |
| 0 | Explain to monkeMen never have 100% of the responsibility for a child, it's split responsibility. Men have a responsibility if they have a child. If you don't want the kid and the woman has an abortion, then great, crisis averted, but if the kid is born, whether or not you wanted it, it's yours. You make the choice to have (unsafe most likely) sex, and we all know the potential consequences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:55 PM |
| -1 | Explain to monkeMost of the men here are coming from a perspective in which men are horribly oppressed at the expense of women. They have a simplistic view where everything needs to be 100% fair between the sexes all the time. But you're right. If we're talking about consensual sex between two adults, both are responsible for whatever outcome happens. That means both are financially responsible should a child be born. The fact that a woman has the option of having an abortion does not magically absolve a man of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:51 PM |
| 2 | Explain to monkeI'm sure I'll get downvoted to hell for this, but both parents need to be financially responsible for their child. The fact that a woman has the choice of an abortion should not absolve the father of their responsibility to provide for their child. Sex is risky that way, so always wear a condom or only sleep with people you trust. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Notice how this sub almost never has women asking what men want or how to attract menIf you have to go though all that to get a girlfriend, then something is wrong. Men and women go through different kinds of struggles in the dating world. Sitting around and being bitter about the fact that some things are easier for women is useless and unproductive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 01:42 PM |
| 5 | Notice how this sub almost never has women asking what men want or how to attract menMost of the men around here are pretty bitter towards women. I doubt that many women would be interested in dating men like that and hence would not ask them for dating advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Do women think men are OK with being a safe option or a second thought?If you're dating someone who treats you like you're just a safe option, then it's not a good relationship. I think this happens to both sexes, and nobody wants to be a second choice. The solution is, find someone who's excited about you and genuinely wants to be with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 02:29 PM |
| 2 | Gabby Petito Mega-ThreadI wonder what all those Iraqis were doing in Afghanistan. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/21 02:00 PM |
| 1 | Average men in long term relationships critiquing people who are single.I'll throw in my experience because I've been on both sides of this. I was in a 9 year LTR through most of my 20s. I used to come on this sub during that time because I strongly disagreed with the views of most of the single guys on here around the issues with dating and how to meet women, but I found the different views interesting. That relationship ended around three years ago now and forced me into the online dating scene for the first time in my life. I'm pretty average looking I would say … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/21 07:11 PM |
| 2 | Dating as a short guy is really easy, just follow these 7 simple stepsWell if that's the threshold, I would say I've only dated one person who wasn't at least an objective 6. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 03:59 AM |
| 5 | Dating as a short guy is really easy, just follow these 7 simple stepsIf you are white and you live in Vancouver or Toronto, then you have access to large quantities of Asian women, who are much more willing to date shorterish men, and also often prefer white men. Furthermore, those areas both have slightly more women than men. Considering your location and your stats, it is extremely likely that you have dated a number of Asians. I do live in one of those cities and I've never even been on a date with an Asian woman, let alone been in a relationship with one. I'v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 03:54 AM |
| 3 | Dating as a short guy is really easy, just follow these 7 simple stepsConventionally attractive and attractive to you are two different standards that may or may not align. Are you saying that you wouldn't date someone who was attractive to you if they weren't also conventionally attractive? Obviously that limits your dating pool and probably means that you care too much about what other people think of you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 03:41 AM |
| 7 | Dating as a short guy is really easy, just follow these 7 simple stepsI live in Canada, which I assume is pretty similar to America in terms of dating culture. My face looks like... A face? Are you asking how attractive I am? If so, I would say I'm maybe on the higher end of average, but certainly no model. And I'm white. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 07:45 PM |
| 4 | Dating as a short guy is really easy, just follow these 7 simple stepsObviously I wouldn't date people I didn't find attractive. I also meant conventionally attractive. But as long as you find someone attractive, why would it matter what anyone else thinks? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 06:15 PM |
| 2 | Dating as a short guy is really easy, just follow these 7 simple stepsThat's really not the case. I've dated many attractive women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 05:49 PM |
| 10 | Dating as a short guy is really easy, just follow these 7 simple stepsWhat's the definition of short here? I'm 5' 7", follow none of these steps and have never had much issues with dating. I'm sure it would be easier if I was 6ft, but the way I look at it is that I'm weeding out the more superficial people. I think you may be your own worst enemy here OP. You can't do anything about your height, so don't stress yourself out worrying about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 04:40 PM |
| 6 | How much truth is there to this statement?I don't know how much things have changed in the ten years since I finished school, but when I was in university, probably more than half to people I knew were in a relationship. It was a very common thing and it was people of all different attractiveness levels. More than anything, your experience likely has to do with the kind of people you hang around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Why are RPillers so negative towards men who choose to become stepfathers?I'm not a woman, I'm a man. I never even realized other men had this strong disgust to being a step father until coming to this subreddit. I really don't think it's an evolutionary thing, that basically discounts the many men who have become step father's. So this is clearly far from a universal feeling amongst all men. Obviously you shouldn't be a step father if you don't want to be, but there's nothing wrong with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/20 01:26 PM |
| 1 | Why are RPillers so negative towards men who choose to become stepfathers?Yes, many TRP men seem to have a tendency for holding a very simplistic view of human nature. Where we are all completely beholden to some basic animal instincts that we can never overcome. It sometimes feels as though they've never interacted with an actual human being. A lot of what they claim are hardwired human instincts, are not actually at all. However, even if they were, one of the great things that helped the human race become as successful as it is, is the ability to rationalize our act… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 11:33 PM |
| 3 | Why are RPillers so negative towards men who choose to become stepfathers?I think guys who have these attitudes tend to attract the type of woman they can't stand Yes, I 100% agree with this, it's my working theory for why a lot of guys here have the attitudes they do around women, although they'll all deny it. Having dated a number of women, who I think we're all fundamentally good and functional people, my experiences have been pretty much polar opposite to what TRP presents as being reality. And I'm a pretty average looking guy, it's not like I'm what TRP would cal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Why are RPillers so negative towards men who choose to become stepfathers?I more or less agree with you here again. But it's not a case of dating a women with kids is inherently bad, it's a matter of vetting people and finding a partner who is a good fit for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Why are RPillers so negative towards men who choose to become stepfathers?I agree that you are allowed to have whatever preferences you want. But like a woman who only dates tall guys, you may be missing out on a lot of good things for no rational reason. I just think it's good to challenge your own beliefs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Why are RPillers so negative towards men who choose to become stepfathers?I know, but why is that disgusting? And why do you look at it as providing resources to another man's kids and not providing resources for your romantic partner's kids, since that's what it's really about. The kids father really has nothing to do with this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 09:25 PM |
| 1 | Why are RPillers so negative towards men who choose to become stepfathers?Insecurities have nothing to do with wealth or success. I'm not trying to make this political, but I think Trump is a good example of this. Billionaire and President, yet he's so insecure that he'd rather undermine the trust in American democracy than admit he lost the election. I'm not saying you aren't entitled to your own dating preferences, but just try and take an objective look at what it is that disgusts you about being a step father. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 08:56 PM |
| 1 | Why are RPillers so negative towards men who choose to become stepfathers?There doesn't have to be a logical explanation for it, I'm just pointing out that if there isn't a logical explanation, you may want to give some thought to why you think that way. And on top of that, it's hard to criticize people for disagreeing with you on an opinion that isn't grounded in logic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Why are RPillers so negative towards men who choose to become stepfathers?As I pointed out to another person here, the most, THE MOST, common reason men become step fathers - is not because they transcended beyond their automatic reactions. It's because they fell in love with the kid's mother. Yes, I agree with this statement, I just don't know why it's a bad thing. If you have two people in love with each other and want to be in a relationship and the woman has kids, why is it bad for the husband to take on a step father role? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 08:48 PM |
| 3 | Why are RPillers so negative towards men who choose to become stepfathers?Can you give any coherent, logical explanation about why it's gross to he a step dad? Like presumably you aren't going to be a step dad to some random kids, they're the kids of the woman you're in a relationship with, who you also presumably love. But it's not ok to help support your partner's kids because that somehow makes you less manly? And you're insecure about your masculinity so you have to avoid anything that you think could make you less manly? That's the only explanation I can think of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 08:02 PM |
| 2 | Why are RPillers so negative towards men who choose to become stepfathers?You aren't funding him. He's out of the picture whether or not you're around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Why are RPillers so negative towards men who choose to become stepfathers?This post really screams insecurity. The fear of your friends gossiping behind your back that you aren't a real man, because deep down you're insecure about your masculinity. And that's what this all comes down to. TRP caters to insecure men who desperately try to project a stereotypical macho man persona. Guess what? It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. Far be it from me to tell you how to live your life, but it is very freeing to do things because you want to do them and not because you'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 07:32 PM |
| 2 | Why are RPillers so negative towards men who choose to become stepfathers?If your definition of success is knocking up a woman and managing to avoid any responsibility for it, I would encourage you to try and aim higher in life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Why are RPillers so negative towards men who choose to become stepfathers?I'm a guy and I also don't get it. And you invoke a completely different situation to try and tell her she couldn't understand. You realize that step mother's are also a thing right? My best guess is that most men here are very insecure about their masculinity and so they try to present as really macho men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 07:25 PM |
| 9 | Why are RPillers so negative towards men who choose to become stepfathers?I think that many RP men are extremely sensitive about their self perceived masculinity and are very stuck in always needing to appear stereotypically "masculine". I don't have kids and would like my own some day, but in a hypothetical situation where I met a women I really liked who already had kids, I would not be bothered at all by becoming a step father. I see a lot of talk about how this makes you the womans second choice, or that the other man won because he got to sleep with this woman wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Why are RPillers so negative towards men who choose to become stepfathers?What are you on about? Humans are not lions, show me any evidence that it's in our nature for a man to be repulsed by other mens children. Look at the social structure of human and other primate groups compared to lions, it's completely different. What is in our nature is working as a collective, including helping more vulnerable members of our groups (like a single mother for example). That behaviour is fairly fundamental to our success as a species. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/20 03:07 PM |
| 0 | LOOKS MATTER BUT if you can’t find even one woman that likes you for you then there’s something wrong with your personality. You probably have a personality flaw or extremely high standards (see 99.99% of incels)Like other people on this thread, I don't think it's really fair to say that any guy who can't attract women has a shitty personality. I think there are multiple factors that go into attracting women, but from my own life, I've known two guys who have never had luck with women. They're both nice people, their looks are not too bad, one guy could do with losing some weight, but there are definitely women who would still date guys like them. I found that the main issue was that they're awkward and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/20 04:59 PM |
| 1 | This sub seems to be made up mostly of "perverts", incels and bored wives, am I wrong? :)I found TRP about 5 or 6 years ago and I was fascinated by it because almost nothing they talked about lined up with my personal experiences as a guy. I found out about this subreddit a few years ago, but I've only been browsing frequently since around when Covid hit. I guess I just find it fascinating to read about other people's opinions who I completely disagree with and who have a lived experience that's the complete opposite of mine. But I wouldn't say I fit into any of your categories. I d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/20 04:31 PM |
| 4 | How do women treat their casual sexual partners better then their bfs?I'm curious where you even get the idea that women are doing all this crazy stuff during a ONS or FWBs that they won't do with a bf. How much casual sex have you had? In my experience it's way more vanilla than sex in relationships. People are usually more comfortable in a ltr and more willing to try different stuff in bed. So I think your entire premise here is flawed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/20 10:57 PM |
| 7 | Does the prevalence of sex selective abortion contradict the disposable man theory?That's like saying money isn't valuable, since we only value money for what it can do for us. The argument makes no sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/20 04:50 PM |
| 1 | How Was She Supposed To Date You In Her Youth If She Didn't Know You Yet?Yup. So we agree. Younger women are higher value and men would date them if they could. Not exactly. The issue I see with TRP is the vast over generalizations it uses. I think it's highly dependent on the man. Yes, some men put a very high value on youth, just like some women put a very high value on wealth and status. But I don't think either of these are the majority, based on what we see in the real world. There is no shortage of successful older men, and yes, some do date very young women, b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/20 04:49 PM |
| 3 | How Was She Supposed To Date You In Her Youth If She Didn't Know You Yet?Everything you write screams that you have massive insecurities around your manliness. You can think what you want about me, but at least I'm comfortable with myself and have a successful romantic life. Going on the internet and pretending to bang only 20 year olds does not make you more manly and definitely doesn't make you high value. I genuinely feel bad for you because you'll never find a decent girl with the attitude you have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/20 02:48 PM |
| 1 | How Was She Supposed To Date You In Her Youth If She Didn't Know You Yet?Whenever the man's value is extremely high (actors, singers, models, very successful businessmen) he is likely to attract and date much younger women. If you were Leonardo Di Caprio, do you think you'd be dating women your own age? Celebrities are extreme outliers, who are easily able to date people much younger. I do think more men would date younger if they could, but I think the limiting factor is that young women generally see 30+ men as low value. Even looking at actors, I would guess most … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/20 10:26 PM |
| 2 | How Was She Supposed To Date You In Her Youth If She Didn't Know You Yet?If you believe that a considerable factor in what attracts women is wealth / status then it follows that men will be more attractive to women at 30 than at 20. Well that is a good question. I think it very much depends on the woman though and I think it can vary greatly. But ask yourself how many 20 year olds you see dating guys in their 30s. The number is very low, as most 20 year old are going to date guys around their age, not usually more than 5 years older. So if a man's peak value is in hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/20 05:08 PM |
| 5 | How Was She Supposed To Date You In Her Youth If She Didn't Know You Yet?When I was 20, I dated 20 year olds, now that I'm in my 30s, I date girls in their 30s. I don't know how old you are, but I doubt any self respecting 20 year old would come near you. This is one of the most pathetic things I've ever read tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/20 04:56 PM |
| 5 | How Was She Supposed To Date You In Her Youth If She Didn't Know You Yet?Why does my opinion not counts? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/20 04:32 PM |
| 4 | How Was She Supposed To Date You In Her Youth If She Didn't Know You Yet?I'm sorry, but I just don't think this holds very true. The idea that a man in his 30s is inherently high value and a woman in her 30s is low value just isn't true. The girls who had no interest in you when you were 20, will probably still have no interest in you when you're 30 (not you specifically, but I mean guys in general). The notion that women can't find guys in their 30s is just plain wrong. Largely, men and women tend to date people of a similar age. There are few 30+ year old men who a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/20 04:14 PM |
| 7 | How Was She Supposed To Date You In Her Youth If She Didn't Know You Yet?Hard disagree as a man in his 30s. I want nothing to do with a 20 year old girl. I'm not looking for a relationship with an immature kid. I've had good relationships with women in there 30s who are very attractive, have good jobs and I can actually relate to them. Like everything in this sub, the notion that 30+ women are all post wall, ugly and desperate for a man to financially support them is a huge over generalization. There are tons of attractive women in that age group with tons of options… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/20 04:05 PM |
| 10 | The Red Pill teaches dudes how to not get played by the games women play - And Women hate seeing their own game being played against themIf this were true, wouldn't most women be single? Most average women end up with average men. You don't see the bulk of women refusing to settle for an average guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/20 03:44 AM |
| 0 | Where are you meeting these "typical" women?I've collectively spent about 11 years in relationships with 5 women. When will I finally learn their true nature? When will I be hurt by their awfullness? I was with some of these women for years, and I can tell you they had one of those traits max. Maybe all of the women you have been with fit this description, in which case I would recommend going for a different kind of woman. Clearly my dating experiences have been very different from yours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/20 01:13 AM |
| 2 | Where are you meeting these "typical" women?Well the women I've been in relationships with in the past have always been quite honest. Of course you don't know what you don't know, so it's possible they lied about some things, but there's no way to know either way. But none of them ever had a habit of lying to me, that would be an instant deal breaker. Generally I'm not concerned about who a potential partner slept with 10 years ago, I'm much more interested in the kind of person she is and whether I feel like we are compatible. In my humb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/20 11:46 PM |
| 2 | "What was attractive at 18 isn't at 30" is true for women in large part because they're not as hot at 30 as they were at 18I don't believe it's a fact. Why not? This isn't even a controversial topic, just do a quick Google search. Clearly you don't like that it's a fact, so you decide not to believe it. But that's fine, you can live in ignorance if you want to. It's not a crime nor is it immoral/unethical to fuck an 18 year old It's not illegal, but in my opinion it can be immoral if you are much older. I'm 30, and there is no way I would sleep with an 18 year old girl. Besides having no interest, I just think it's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/20 09:10 PM |
| 9 | Where are you meeting these "typical" women?How can you claim to know that? Granted if I go on one date with a girl, I can't claim to know her very well, and she could be hiding things, but typically you can get a decent sense of the kind of person someone is from a couple hours of conversation. Of the women I have gone on to actually have a serious relationship with, none of them turned out to be like this "typical" woman OP describes. How many women do you really know and interact with on a level that is more than superficial? I find it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/20 08:22 PM |
| 3 | "What was attractive at 18 isn't at 30" is true for women in large part because they're not as hot at 30 as they were at 18The brain continues to develope until 25 typically. You don't have to believe it, but it is a fact. This is why you see young people, especially young men, disproportionately engage in very risky behaviour. The decision making portions of an 18 year olds brain is not fully developed. The fact that some 18 year olds are very responsible and some 40 years olds are irresponsible doesn't change this fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/20 07:28 PM |
| 54 | Where are you meeting these "typical" women?I've had the same experience as you OP. I've been in 5 relationships and spent a lot of time doing OLD. None of the girls I've dated fit this "typical" woman stereotype, and even the many women I met on OLD didn't seem to fit this stereotype. The only one of those I've seen is the social media obsessed. I dated one girl who I would actually say was obsessed with Instagram and that happened after we had dated for several years and was a symptom of some issues she was dealing with. Anyone who trul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/20 06:21 PM |
| 6 | Where are you meeting these "typical" women?I don't think that's the case. I'm 30 and just in a new relationship, but my dating experience was that most women weren't "like that". Of course I wouldn't go on a date with someone if I knew they were like what OP describes. But it's not that hard to find good quality women, at least where I am. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/20 05:56 PM |
| 2 | How often are you the ones carrying a conversation and just getting one word answers?What kind of women were you matching with? I've encountered this occasionally, but probably not more than 10-15% of the women I've talked with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/20 06:18 PM |
| 1 | The ‘Dating Market’ Is Getting WorseThe thing is, even if only 1% of women think you are attractive, that's enough. It won't be easy, but in OLD when you're exposed to so many people, you should have some success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/20 07:18 PM |
| 1 | The ‘Dating Market’ Is Getting WorseOk, let me clarify to say I've been shy my whole life. I'm not bad at talking to women, but I'm not amazing either. I don't think I'm an exception, while I know a few guys who have had a really tough time dating, the vast majority of my friends have been just fine. I think the men who actually have a very difficult time dating make up a small portion of the overall population, and I think most of what holds them back are factors within their control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/20 07:16 PM |
| 1 | The ‘Dating Market’ Is Getting WorseThose are average rankings. In no way does that chart disprove the comment you're responding to. Just because a guy is ranked 2/5 it's doesn't mean a few women didn't rate that guy as a 4 or 5. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/20 07:02 PM |
| 1 | The ‘Dating Market’ Is Getting WorseAnd most men are not dating these days. Most women are dating other women now, not interested, or with a very small % of men who are still "above average" I'm a 5'7" introverted guy who has no problem dating women. How do I fit into your narrative that only a very small percentage of above average looking men are dating? I think you have a very skewed view of what dating is like today. Just about any guy can get into dating if he's willing to put some work into it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/20 06:55 PM |
| 10 | Sex strategy for young average menThis is nuts. An average 20 year old guy has a way better chance with a girl his own age than some woman in her 30s or 40s. Despite what you may have learned from watching porn, I guarantee that the vast majority of women in this age group are not looking for much younger guys. Most young women are looking for guys within a several years of their age, they aren't going to be interested in a guy 10-15 years their senior. I met very few women in my young 20s who would be dating a guy more than 5 y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/20 03:46 PM |
| 3 | Has anyone considered that treating humans like individuals might be the solution?Nice post OP. I've always approached dating from this perspective of just getting to know them and basing my judgement that way and not on some broad stereotypes. It seems to work well for me at least, I've met a lot of great people this way, although I'm not married yet. But I've certainly not had any horrendous experiences like other men here apparently experience all the time. Women are people just like men are people, and I don't believe most of the stereotypes hold up in real life. You're m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 04:39 PM |
| 4 | Has anyone considered that treating humans like individuals might be the solution?So do you let this kind of logic guide all of your encounters with people? You ignore what an individual is like and instead judge them based on broad trends based on their sex, race, religion, etc? I don't think that's a very good way to go through life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 03:15 PM |
| 5 | Has anyone considered that treating humans like individuals might be the solution?Have you met the average woman. What's the average woman? I've met many women, some like social media and some don't. Of all the women I've dated, only one was really into social media, the rest were just casual users like most people are. Your post actually reads like someone who hardly knows any women at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 03:12 PM |
| 8 | Which more reflects reality when it comes to how women approach dating the so called dual mating strategy or the continuous phase strategy?Lol, whatever makes you feel better. I certainly had no trouble when I was in my young 20s and I don't think I've gotten that much less attractive. But I don't care regardless because I just don't have any interest in girls in that age range. But you do you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/20 06:05 PM |
| 8 | Which more reflects reality when it comes to how women approach dating the so called dual mating strategy or the continuous phase strategy?This is a quality post. You basically said everything I wanted to say about this, but much better than I could have articulated. As a guy dating at 30, I can confirm that there are no shortage of attractive women my age that I would totally date. Starting from my late teens when I started dating I've always found women are mostly just looking for relationships, just like a lot of guys. This notion that most girls in their 20s just want to fuck Chad's is a complete myth, just like "the wall" when… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/20 05:32 PM |
| 7 | Which more reflects reality when it comes to how women approach dating the so called dual mating strategy or the continuous phase strategy?Also a 30 year old man, who's been dating around. I would not pursue someone more than 5 years younger than me, even 5 years is pushing it, I find there is a big maturity difference which is a big turn off for me. There are a lot of really attractive (imo) women in their late 20s and early 30s who I would much rather date. I don't find that I'm in any way unique either, I think plenty of 30 year old guys prefer woken their own age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/20 05:21 PM |
| 3 | Pregnant women are more likely to die from murder by partner than anything else.For source 1, you can't look at the general murder rate and compare it to the murder rate of pregnant women. You should compare the murder rate of women specifically, or better yet, the murder rate of women of childbearing age. I quickly looked it up, and women make up only about 20% of murder victims in the United States. This means, if the murder rate of pregnant women is the same as the general murder rate, that pregnant women are murdered at a much higher rate than non pregnant women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/20 01:34 AM |
| 1 | The single mom contradictionI know she can, but from a practical perspective it wouldn't work if the father wanted custody. How would the mother explain the disappearance of the child? It would eventually come out what happened and the man could get the baby back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/20 03:32 AM |
| 1 | The single mom contradictionYa, but if the man wanted to keep the baby he will figure out it's missing. Those laws aren't much different than giving up a child for adoption. You really need both parents on board. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/20 03:21 AM |
| 1 | exactly who are men here waiting for...Ok, thats more realistic. Where does that number come from though? I tried looking it up, but all I found was an article about a genetic study that showed that only in 1% of birth was this the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 08:34 PM |
| 2 | exactly who are men here waiting for...So you're telling me that almost 1/10 children is born out of an affair? Where does that stat come from? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 08:05 PM |
| 1 | exactly who are men here waiting for...In France it is illegal. Ok, well I don't know the law in every country, but it certainly shouldn't be illegal. I still don't think it should be mandatory though, I don't see it as being a major issue. I think it's pretty rare that a man finds out he's not the father of his child. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 07:15 PM |
| 1 | exactly who are men here waiting for...How can a woman deny a paternity test? If she claims you are the father, you can dispute that and get a test done. If you are legally recognized as the father, you can just take the kid to get the test done. I agree that any man should be able to get a paternity test for a kid that is supposedly his, but it doesn't need to be mandatory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 05:11 PM |
| 1 | The single mom contradictionWell that must be an American thing, because people don't go to jail for not paying child support here. Men should have to make a reasonable financial contribution towards their child based on how much money they make. I don't think that's unreasonable or unfair. The woman is also contributing to the child. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 05:09 PM |
| 1 | The single mom contradictionYes she is, if the father has custody, the woman has to pay child support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 04:28 PM |
| 1 | The single mom contradictionIf there isnt someone to pick up the tab and they don't abort, the alternative would be prison. Dude, you are saying that it's perfectly fair for a man to walk away from his parental responsibility and put a woman in a position where she can either have an abortion or go to prison because she can't afford to raise a baby on her own. And that is better than the current system somehow in your mind? I mean, that's seriously sickening. We clearly will never see eye to eye on this issue, and I'm just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 04:27 PM |
| 1 | exactly who are men here waiting for...There's nothing currently stopping men from getting a paternity test if they want to. Can you explain why it should be maid mandatory? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 04:20 PM |
| 1 | The single mom contradictionBut I DON'T want to create the child. It's the woman that wants to create it. She has the option to abort if she can't afford raising one. Without financial abortion I have no way to avoid paying for said child while she does. That's life, if you create a child you are responsible for paying for it. When all else fails and a pregnancy happens, yes, the woman has final say on an abortion, but the fact that abortions are an option does not mean men should all of a sudden have the option to walk aw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 01:46 PM |
| 2 | The single mom contradictionYou mean they can give their child up for adoption? Not without the fathers approval. And if the father wants to raise the child and the mother doesn't, then she is on the hook for child support, as it should be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 01:32 PM |
| 1 | The single mom contradictionBut you cant exactly do that and then take away mans right to chose if he dosen't want to be a parent. When was this right taken away? A man has never had the right to walk away from a child he created. I mean, I do see where you're coming from, but the reason I don't agree with it is because I don't think it's good for society. Allowing men to walk away from financial responsibilities to their child will lead to worse outcomes for children, and put a greater financial strain on society to make … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 01:31 PM |
| 2 | The single mom contradictionSo, to clarify, what your argument boils down to is this - it is unfair that society gave women the right to abortion without also giving men a way out of parenthood. Is that correct? If you see that as fair and by fair I mean giving woman 100% choice of being a parent and fathers no choice then thats cool for you. You have a choice as to whether to have sex or not. Ask yourself this, if abortions were illegal, would you still be complaining about men having no choice in being a parent? How does… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 03:38 AM |
| 0 | The single mom contradictionWell if you're proposed system isn't a punishment, then neither is the current system. I just don't see it from your perspective, if you create a child, you are responsible for it, that's the way it's been throughout modern society. People are acting as though the legalization of abortion has given women the power to "force" men into fatherhood, which is not the case at all. Women can no more force a man into fatherhood now then they could before abortion was legal. In fact there are many men wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 12:52 AM |
| 10 | The single mom contradictionI guess what I don't understand is why giving women the right to abortions, means that men need to be able to have an option to bail on their kids. Either the baby is born or it isn't, if it is, then both parents need to step up. Essentially you are proposing to punish women who go through with a pregnancy solely because women have been given the right to abortion. It doesn't make sense to me, and no politician would touch that issue with a 10ft pole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 11:24 PM |
| 7 | The single mom contradictionWell, unless you propose men should have control over a woman's body, there's no feasible way to give men the right to abortion. Allowing women to have an abortion forces nothing onto men, all it does is get them out of fatherhood frequently. If you eliminate abortion, you end up with many more men being forced into fatherhood. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 11:08 PM |
| 13 | The single mom contradictionThe difference is, when a woman aborts there is no child to pay for. Abortion, and "male abortion" are two distinctly different things. The reality of biology is that the mother has final say on an abortion, which is the final chance to stop a baby from being born. That doesn't mean that men should have the option to bail when a baby is born. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 10:50 PM |
| 10 | The single mom contradictionNo, regardless of what the law says, if a man helps create a child, he is a father. All the law does is forces father's (and mothers for that matter) to provide for their children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 10:22 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The supposed threat of 'Societal Collapse' because men aren't getting laid sounds like ridiculous wishful thinking and projectionPolygamy is one man taking multiple partners, what you're talking about is hook up culture. They are distinctly different things. Polygamy is very rare is Western society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 01:56 PM |
| 1 | What about the 28% of sexless men makes women prefer to be single than date them?Arranged marriages still occur in some countries today (eg: India). Ironically, those marriages have lower divorce rates than those in Western countries. Something worth thinking about. This is true, but in those cultures, not surprisingly, divorce is very much frowned upon. So I really don't believe that people are happier in those marriages so much as they have no way to escape them. I'm interested to know what you think the solution to this problem is. Personally, I highly value individual fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/20 02:11 AM |
| 5 | If men are as "socially" priveleged as feminist women say, how come OJ Simpson has been cancelled but Carole Baskin has not?This isn't really a man vs woman thing. OJ Simpson had a ton of infamy after he was acquitted, and he was extensively covered in the media. He also released a book and there were many documentaries made around him. Of course he lost endorsements and his acting career as you would expect though. I don't see Carole Baskin as much different. She is similarly getting a lot of media coverage because, like OJ, people are interested in the story. She doesn't have any endorsements that would get cancell… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/20 01:47 AM |
| 1 | Making shit matter - Penalties for abandonment during illness, no-fault divorce, and more!many of those divorces end up being families that stay together and are actually happier having done so. Is there any actual data on that? I would be curious to see it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/20 01:30 AM |
| 1 | What about the 28% of sexless men makes women prefer to be single than date them?What significant changes have occurred relatively recent in history? In my opinion, the most significant change is that woman have gained considerable freedom in the last 70 years to be on par with men. This is more freedom than women have historically had. You are right that these men would have had better luck finding a partner 100+ years ago, but that's because women were often sent into arranged marriages or heavily pressured by their families into marriages and had little to no choice in th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/20 12:18 AM |
| 1 | What about the 28% of sexless men makes women prefer to be single than date them?Successful and healthy dating and relationships are a two way street with mutual reciprocity between the two parties. I agree with this 100%, but we aren't really talking about two people in a relationship, we are talking about men who can't get into a relationship. The inference I get from these posts is that it's the fault of women for not wanting to date these "lower tier" men. But women are always going to have a certain set of standards for who they will date, which is not anyone's fault, i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/20 09:03 PM |
| 2 | What about the 28% of sexless men makes women prefer to be single than date them?This isn't the same as getting yourself out of poverty. I'm talking about things like exercising, learning how to treat women and good hygiene. It's not rocket science. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/20 03:02 AM |
| 7 | What about the 28% of sexless men makes women prefer to be single than date them?I'm not sure where this 28% number comes from, but assuming it's true that 28% of men are perpetually unsuccessful with women, I think we need to understand what that means. This isn't 28% ugliest guys, this 28% is the most unappealing to women due to looks, attitude, weight and probably a bunch of other factors. There are probably also a lot of guys who are too awkward or scared to even try dating. One thing I have observed (anecdotally) is that there are plenty of men who would be in the botto… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/20 10:28 PM |
| 10 | What about the 28% of sexless men makes women prefer to be single than date them?The 28% of men at the bottom who aren’t getting sex are being ignored by the 28% of women at the bottom, who instead choose to have casual sex with men ABOVE their league So if these woman can consistently hook up with these guys who are "above their league", are they really above their league? Essentially what you are saying is that this bottom tier of men isn't in any woman's league, otherwise they would be able to hook up with them. I don't think that is the reality though. I see plenty of me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/20 09:53 PM |
| 1 | The life of an RP man is a constant struggle.Because this was the first template I found and I didn't notice it until your comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 01:34 AM |
| 1 | How much do your dating options diminish/increase as you get older? For both men and womenI don't know how old you are, but as someone who is approaching 35 I definitely don't feel that most people in that age bracket look like shit. I'm sure my standards have changed as I age, but 35 isn't that old. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/20 01:50 PM |
| 1 | Do men honestly think young women live carefree perfect lives?I don't exactly know what it means to be blue, but I'm definitely not red pill. There's hardly anything the I've read about red pill that I can relate to from my personal experiences, and basically everything that the red pill ideology tells you to do, I would do the opposite. The only thing I can think of that I relate or agree with from red pill would be taking care of your body/working out. Despite all of the above, I've never had an unusual amount of trouble dating. Red pill just strikes me … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/20 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Do men honestly think young women live carefree perfect lives?Thanks, that makes more sense. I can't really relate to that though. I'm a 30 year single guy and I can't say I have any interest dating a someone in their early 20's. I'm not sure when the supposed wall hits, but there are plenty of attractive women around my age. I also think that in order to have any kind of a happy and functional relationship, there has to be a deeper connection, and I would find that very difficult with someone who was a completely different age. That said, everyone is enti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/20 03:37 PM |
| 2 | Is the height issue exaggerated in part because most men lie and many women don't know what a given height looks like?I'm 5' 7" and fairly average looking and I've always listed my height on my online dating profiles. When I'm really trying I can consistently get 2 dates a week from online dating, so your belief that 95% of women want nothing to do with shorter guys cannot be true. I see so many other short guys here having such a defeated attitude around women. I'm not saying it isn't harder to get a date than a 6'+ guy, but you're far from destitute. If you find that it's impossible to find any girls interest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/20 02:23 PM |
| 1 | Do men honestly think young women live carefree perfect lives?What I'm confused about it who said you had to? Why don't you go have casual sex yourself, and if you want to settle down with someone you can try and find someone with a low number count since that's apparently very important to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/20 12:41 PM |
| 1 | Do men honestly think young women live carefree perfect lives?to pay full price for what countless other men got for free What on earth does this mean? You want to be able to sleep with girls without dating or marrying them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/20 04:28 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Short man syndrome is monster created by men as much as women — if not more.I would consider myself to be fairly average looking, certainly not significantly above average looking. I think you just need to focus on the things that are in your control. I'm pretty healthy and work out regularly, and also have a good job which helps. Focusing on how your height holds you back is only going to torment you and hold you back even more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/20 03:53 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Short man syndrome is monster created by men as much as women — if not more.But the fatalism displayed by short men here is over the fucking top. This is so true. I'm 5'7", and I'm sure if I spent all my time dwelling on my height I may be depressed too, but I don't. In my day to day life I almost never think about my height. If something doesn't go my way, I try to learn from it and do better next time, I don't go and wallow in self pity and tell myself if only I was taller everything would work out, because that's just not true. Height may not be in our control, but a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/20 02:42 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Short man syndrome is monster created by men as much as women — if not more.I never feel as though I have been mistreated by men or women because of my height, with the exception of some occasional teasing from my friends. I know shorter men are at somewhat of a disadvantage, but so are a lot of people. Almost exclusively all women need to work harder to get ahead in the workplace, people of color face discrimination all the time. It's not right, but it's the world we live in. The more you focus on your height the more it will hold you back. I really believe that a lot … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/20 02:33 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Short man syndrome is monster created by men as much as women — if not more.I'm 5' 7" and I really don't share your experience in any way. Granted, if I was 6' I would surely have an easier time dating, but it's still never been that difficult in the dating scene, and I've never felt like women have mistreated me in my day to day life because of my height. I know height matters to some extent, but I think you are attributing far too much of what you experience to your height. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/20 01:28 PM |
| 4 | Crazy levels of infidelity from women in my experience. Stats just can't be accurateI would consider that your guy friends may be hesitant to admit to cheating. It's one thing to disclose that your partner cheated on you, and another to admit to cheating yourself, where you are coming out and admitting to bad behavior. The other obvious issue is such a small sample size, it's very possible that the people you know are not reflective of the wider population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 03:24 AM |
| 1 | You Guys Don’t Really Want Divorce To Be Illegal Do You?I think the solution is easy, either don't get married, or if you do, sign a prenup. Obviously if you have kids, you may still have to pay child support depending upon how things go, but that's different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 11:22 PM |
| 2 | Gamers are as bad as drug addicts, and is at very least, a yellow flag to watchIf you tell anyone that their hobby is for losers, you're going to get a reaction out of them. It seems like it's you who for whatever reason, who is trying to convince yourself that video games are for losers. Not really sure why you even care if people play video games or not. Maybe you think if you convince yourself that people who play video games are all losers, you'll be able to feel better about yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 11:07 PM |
| 2 | Gamers are as bad as drug addicts, and is at very least, a yellow flag to watchYou do realize it's not an all or nothing deal, right? It is in fact possible to both play video games and have sex. Video games can certainly become an addiction that's detrimental to a person's well being, but it's also very possible to play them in moderation and achieve success in other areas of your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 09:02 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: at what age should a woman stop exploring her career options and settle into a job and have a family before she becomes too old? Would you support your wife making large career decisions? [Advice AND General question]I really feel compelled to respond to you because it seems like you have a skewed view of reality. I'm saying this as someone with a bit more life experience. First off, in terms of your career, at 24 years old must people are not established in their career yet. If you really hate what you do, find something else it's not too late. I also want to add that you do not need to sacrifice career ambitions to have a family, and there are plenty of guys, myself included, who find successful and driven… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 08:37 PM |
| 1 | Consenting to sex is not consenting to being a father!It's not just about satisfying other people's ethics, it's about doing what is best for society. Like it or not, when a child is born, the father is partly responsible for the birth of that child. So why should we put the fathers right to financial freedom over the child right to financial security, or over societies right not to have to pay for other peoples problems. Both society and the child are completely innocent parties here, they shouldn't have to suffer so that we can give men the privi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 04:36 PM |
| 2 | Consenting to sex is not consenting to being a father!Deciding not to have an abortion is different than deciding to have a child. There are many reasons a woman may not want an abortion, even if she doesn't want to have a child. It's very different than the Male "abortion" you are promoting. Besides that, having sex has consequences, both parties should be prepared to take responsibility for those consequences should they decide to engage in sex. When you let the man walk out on financial responsibility, you are causing harm to both the child, who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 04:28 PM |
| 1 | Consenting to sex is not consenting to being a father!Unfortunately, a man can't just walk away from a fetus like a woman can. If a woman doesn't want an abortion, the fetus will become a person whether the man likes it or not, and that is his child. If I were in that situation, I would step up and help raise the child, and I can't even remotely relate to your position here. It really has nothing to do with the mother, or whether you agree with her decisions or not, it has to do with an innocent child that you helped create, and I can't imagine how… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 12:23 PM |
| 3 | Consenting to sex is not consenting to being a father!It's having your cake and eating it, too. I could make the same argument to male "abortion". You are saying men should be able to have wreckless and unsafe sex and leave women with the entire responsibility of either having an abortion or raising the child on their own. Not to mention that this also fucks over the child, should they be born, who will likely live in a financially unstable family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 12:17 PM |
| 3 | Consenting to sex is not consenting to being a father!Women are told if they don't want pregnancy they can abort or give away their kid to adoption. Both parents have to agree to adoption, if the mother doesn't want the kid, but the father does, the mother would and should pay child support to the father. The difference between a woman having an abortion and what you are talking about is that when a woman has an abortion, there is no child. When a man has an "abortion", you have a child without a father and without financial support. That is a very… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 12:14 PM |
| 1 | Consenting to sex is not consenting to being a father!Because a woman doesn’t abort a child, she aborts a fetus. And likewise, a man doesn’t help create a child when he accidentally gets a woman pregnant, he helps create a fetus. With abortion, children only come into existence when women want them to. Their choice, their responsibility. That's really just semantics and you're skirting the issue. It takes two people to create a child (or a fetus). You also conveniently avoid my question as to how forcing a woman to either abort a pregnancy or face … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Consenting to sex is not consenting to being a father!So yes, a woman can legally have an abortion, but can you explain why that fact should have any bearing on who should have to pay for a child? Or can you explain how on one hand, it is fair to put a woman in a position where she must either have an abortion or face financial abandonment from the father, but on the other hand it's unfair to ask that a father provides financial support to their child. Listen, I know where you're coming from, it would really suck to have a child you don't want, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 08:41 PM |
| 1 | Consenting to sex is not consenting to being a father!The child exists because two consenting people had sex, therefore both people should be obligated to pay for it. It's a risk you take when you have sex. There are a lot of things that I think society should pay for, but a deadbeat father isn't one of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 06:54 PM |
| 10 | Consenting to sex is not consenting to being a father!because of a woman's decisions. I assume you're talking about a woman's decision not to have an abortion? I think it's hardly fair to put it all on the woman. There is really equal responsibility for an unwanted pregnancy (unless we are talking about rape). Abortion is a very difficult thing to do and you shouldn't count on a woman going through with that. If both parties consent to sex, then there is a shared responsibility if a child results from that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 06:29 PM |
| 9 | Consenting to sex is not consenting to being a father!I've never understood this as an argument, that because the mother has the option of abortion, the father must therefore also be provided an out. It has nothing to do with the issue at hand. The real issue is who should pay for an unwanted child, the father or society? If you are safe about sex, and use a combo of birth control and condoms, the risk of an unwanted pregnancy is basically zero. With very few exceptions, unwanted pregnancies happen because people take risks, which have consequences… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 06:26 PM |
| 1 | Inside the World's First All-Female Special Forces Unit: Norway's JegertroppenI'm really not well versed in how the US military pays its soldiers, but it seems like it should be based on your position and role, not gender. I also don't think it's fair to judge women's contribution to the military solely on what percentage of casualties they make up. Again, I don't know what it's like in the US, but in my country, women are allowed to fight in combat roles, but not many do, and I think there is good reason for that. Women are on average much smaller and physically weaker t… | /r/MensRights | 17/04/17 10:50 PM |
| 1 | Inside the World's First All-Female Special Forces Unit: Norway's JegertroppenIt sounds like you are simultaneously upset that women don't pull their weight in the military and upset when women are given the opportunity to pull their weight because they can't possibly perform as well as men. The question is, what would make you happy? | /r/MensRights | 17/04/17 08:15 PM |
| 2 | So now in Argentina if you cat-call a woman, you'll be fined for that.I don't think you know what cat calling is... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/16 01:17 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men should have the right to "Legal Abortion" where they are signed off from all rights and responsibilities of their childOk, I see what you're saying, maybe I didn't make my first statement clear. Child support is intended to support and benefit the child, but in doing so, it will also benefit the custodial parent. You can't really do one without the other. Point being, the primary purpose of child support is not to benefit or "reward" the mother. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/16 02:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men should have the right to "Legal Abortion" where they are signed off from all rights and responsibilities of their childAnd what would your quality of life have been like if your mom didn't get that money every month? Probably a fair bit lower. Obviously that money isn't going directly to the child, that doesn't make sense. But it helps pay for food, rent, bills, clothes etc., all of which benefit the child directly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/16 06:22 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men should have the right to "Legal Abortion" where they are signed off from all rights and responsibilities of their childWhat nobody seems to understand is that the concept of child support is to support and benefit the child, not the mother. The man and woman both bear equal responsibility in creating in a child and should therefore both be responsible in supporting it financially. It's really not relevant that biology gives the woman the final say on whether or not it's born. If the child is born, it has to be supported financially, and it isn't fair to the child to let the man off the hook. It also isn't fair t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/16 11:25 PM |
| -9 | Mod on /r/legaladvice makes post about the male side of pregnancy, thinks it's as simple as "If you're going to have sex, you need to prepare for unintended children". Women don't have to- the man can be on the hook for 18 years at their discretion. This is an issue. "Be an adult" is not a solution.Actually, males have 2 of those options. They can obviously keep the child (and share custody with the mother if she wants it), and for adoption, both parents have to consent to it. | /r/MensRights | 30/08/16 01:47 AM |
| 14 | This is what the "sex predator" misandry has wrought: police officer beats, burns, starves own son, 11I think growing up in a war zone, being raped himself as a child and having hi wife become paralyzed while giving birth had a lot more to do with this than "sex predator misandry". This guy obviously has severe mental issues to do what he did. | /r/MensRights | 26/04/16 02:03 PM |
| 1 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysWell alimony is a totally different issue from child support. I fully realize there are plenty of relationships where the women is the abuser also. But when it comes to child support, it's not for the ex spouse, it's for the child. Whoever has primary custody of the child, should get child support from the other. | /r/MensRights | 12/03/16 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysI don't understand what you're saying. The law says that men must pay child support, whether they want to or not. That's the system that people voted on, and that's how it works. | /r/MensRights | 12/03/16 03:02 AM |
| 1 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysChild support certainly makes it easier for a woman to divorce her husband, but I don't see why that's bad. If a marriage isn't working, it isn't working. Why would we want to encourage anyone to stay in a bad relationship? | /r/MensRights | 12/03/16 02:44 AM |
| 1 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysI'm not arguing for fiscal support for a fetus. Neither parents owes it anything until it's born. But once it is born, it's a child that requires care, and that care should be provided by both parents. | /r/MensRights | 12/03/16 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysWell I don't know what to say about that. I know it happens, I think it's a pretty small minority of cases. That's why guys need to protect themselves and not trust that a girl is on bc. But at the end of the day, the kid still has to be taken care of, it sucks, but it's life. | /r/MensRights | 12/03/16 12:37 AM |
| 1 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysI don't know what you're talking about. We have safety nets for people in need, and most people are ok with that. But most people are not ok for paying for a child when the father is perfectly capable of doing so himself. | /r/MensRights | 12/03/16 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysThe whole system revolves around what benefits the child. The argument being made here is to change the system to benefit deadbeat dad's instead. | /r/MensRights | 12/03/16 12:33 AM |
| 1 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysApparently we are totally fine making kids a burden of the state when it benefits women but we are totally against that idea when it benefits men? It's really not a man vs woman issue, the laws are set up to ensure the best for the child. Allowing parents to give up their child for adoption is necessary because forcing parents to care for a child they don't want has a high likely hood to end poorly for the kid. You could force the parents to pay for their child until it's adopted, but again, tha… | /r/MensRights | 12/03/16 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysIt's difficult for a single parents to support a child, and the extra income goes a long way to helping the child. Obviously widows are a special case. | /r/MensRights | 11/03/16 10:57 PM |
| 1 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysThat logic only makes sense if you subscribe to the idea that a fetus is a child, which I don't. If the child is going to be born, it has to be taken care of. That responsibility needs to fall on both parents equally. This is what is fair to the child. | /r/MensRights | 11/03/16 10:39 PM |
| 2 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysThe child has no choice and has to be taken care of. Doesn't matter what either parent did or didn't do. We can't have a system that punishes children for their parents mistakes. | /r/MensRights | 11/03/16 10:22 PM |
| 0 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysYou're giving money to support a child you helped create. The government shouldn't even have to force you to pay your fair share. | /r/MensRights | 11/03/16 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysYou realize that daycare alone for a child will easily run you $1000+ a month right? Plus food, diapers, clothes, etc. And that doesn't mention all the hours of attention a child needs. There is no way a woman comes even close to getting ahead on child support from a middle class man. | /r/MensRights | 11/03/16 10:04 PM |
| 1 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysThat could happen, but it would be easy enough for the father to track down the child and get custody back. | /r/MensRights | 11/03/16 10:02 PM |
| 1 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysThey didn't. This isn't law in Sweden, it was just a proposal made by the youth wing of one of the political parties. And if you read the article, you will see the reception by the public was very negative. | /r/MensRights | 11/03/16 10:00 PM |
| -1 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysExcept that a fetus isn't a child. Once it's born, it's a child and both of its parents need to be responsible for it. | /r/MensRights | 11/03/16 09:59 PM |
| 0 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysWhat changes here is that the person who "loses" in this situation does so as a result of their own choices The problem with your line of thinking is that you only consider the mother and father. Regardless of what the parents do or what mistakes they make, the child should not be made to suffer. And further to thay, society should not be made to suffer either. That is why both parents need to be on the hook to take care of the child, regardless of circumstances. | /r/MensRights | 11/03/16 09:58 PM |
| -1 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysI see what you are saying, and your point may make sense if we were talking about something like a pet, but not a child. Firstly, it's unreasonable and unfair to have the expectation that EITHER parent should choose between abortion/adoption and financial stress. Second, the child, being the only innocent party, has the right to financial stability. If only one parent wants the child, it's unfortunate, but the other parent is still responsible to provide that financial stability. Third, why woul… | /r/MensRights | 11/03/16 04:19 AM |
| 0 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysI've read through your whole post and I'm not sure what you're referring to. Is it the part where you say neither parent should be liable after birth? | /r/MensRights | 11/03/16 03:59 AM |
| 0 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysHe has to sit on his hands and hope that she doesn't saddle him with a 20 year, inescapable debt. I don't think it's fair to frame a pregnancy as something a woman is "doing" to a man. Barring some kind of birth control sabotage, there is equal blame when a pregnancy happens. And I don't think it makes sense that because a woman has an option to abort a pregnancy, then a man should have the option to walk away from a child if the woman opts not to abort. Yes, the woman has total control over the… | /r/MensRights | 11/03/16 03:50 AM |
| -1 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysI think it's a pretty big stretch to compare paying for your child to forced slavery. | /r/MensRights | 11/03/16 03:33 AM |
| 0 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysI think the kind of situation you describe is not nearly as common as people think. Unless you get knocked up by a rich guy, the child support payments are not going to go very far when you are providing for a child. It's not as though a woman can live exclusively off the child support payments from a middle class guy. People make poor choices, accidents happen and babies are born, these aren't malicious acts. Regardless of anything else, the only innocent person is the child, and being the only… | /r/MensRights | 11/03/16 03:32 AM |
| 0 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysNo one should be forced to become a parent against their will. At the same time, no child should be forced in to poverty. Just want to point out that this isn't a black and white issue. People focus too much on the parents and not on the child, which is what this is really about. The system is designed to be fair to the child, not the parents. | /r/MensRights | 11/03/16 03:20 AM |
| -1 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysBoth men and women have birth control options and surgical options to prevent pregnancy. The only option a woman has that a man doesn't, is abortion. If Men reject responsibility for their children they are forced to pay for it's support, why aren't Women responsible for paying into a foster support system once they've given their children up for adoption? Adoption is not exclusively the woman's choice unless the father is already absent, otherwise both parents must agree to it. | /r/MensRights | 11/03/16 03:16 AM |
| -2 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysWe should be pulling everyone up, not crushing them down to the same level for a bastardized sense of equality. I thought this was an interesting point to make because this is a big reason why I'm against financial abortion. The way I see it, to give a sense of equality to the man you are crushing down the mother, the child and to a broader extent, society. The bad thing about situations like this is that there will always be a "loser". In the current system it's the man, and in this alternative… | /r/MensRights | 11/03/16 03:08 AM |
| 1 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysIm just like, Sweden fucking Sweden of all places is looking to level the field and people are bitching. If you read the article, the group that proposed the idea is just the youth wing of one of the political parties, and they don't really have much in the way of power. The reception in Sweden was also overwhelmingly negative. So there is not any legitimate chance of this coming anywhere close to law anytime soon. | /r/MensRights | 11/03/16 02:11 AM |
| 2 | Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group saysEven in a country with a better safety net for single mothers, you have to ask yourself if the general public is going to be receptive to picking up the tab on a child when there is a father who is capable of doing it himself. | /r/MensRights | 11/03/16 02:00 AM |
| -1 | Man's wife cuckold him by sleeping with other men; he graciously accepts because he now understands "feminism on a whole new level". Is this the feminism?Seems like hardly anyone read the article and OP is being dishonest by not telling the whole story. This is an example of an open relationship and it's a two way street. Both the husband and wife sleep with other people, whereas OP is clearly trying to imply that only the wife sleeps with other people. Or maybe OP didn't even read the whole article... I don't agree with everything he says, but he has a point that men have traditionally wanted full control over a womans sexuality. He's also not s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/15 07:09 AM |
| 1 | Divorce case: women wins 80% of the assets despite no children in the marriage and the husband having earned the majority of the wealth - feminists where are your protests now?This is very true. What I suspect the issue is, if I was to guess, is that he took the bulk of the business while his wife ended up with the bulk of the real estate. But because most of his assets are tied up, the only cash he has available would be the 250k from selling this home he got half ownership of. | /r/MensRights | 27/03/15 02:48 PM |
| 1 | Divorce case: women wins 80% of the assets despite no children in the marriage and the husband having earned the majority of the wealth - feminists where are your protests now?Being rich means you have a significant amount of net assets. It's technically possible that all of those assets could be tied up in real estate, but that seems like an unlikely scenario and you would have to be pretty dumb to do that, especially with this amount of money. Even in the unlikely scenario that they have 0 retirement savings or any other savings, they still own this construction business and there is no indication of how that was split. | /r/MensRights | 27/03/15 02:12 PM |
| 1 | Divorce case: women wins 80% of the assets despite no children in the marriage and the husband having earned the majority of the wealth - feminists where are your protests now?Yes, for people who are lower income and can't afford to save much cash. But middle class and especially wealthy people like this will should have significant savings for their retirements by the time they are in their sixties. You would have to be absolutely atrocious with money to be a millionaire and have no money saved for retirement. | /r/MensRights | 27/03/15 01:21 PM |
| 3 | Another reason not to marry: Building tycoon claims he's been left homeless by divorce he says gave wife property worth £1.8million and him just £250,000These houses are certainly not their only assets, so this probably sounds worse than it is. Theoretically, their total assets should be split 50/50. So if he got sole possession of the company, for example, this really isn't that bad. But unfortunately the article leaves out that info, so you really can't say if this guy actually got screwed. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/15 08:30 PM |
| 4 | Divorce case: women wins 80% of the assets despite no children in the marriage and the husband having earned the majority of the wealth - feminists where are your protests now?I feel like something is missing from the article. They must have had more assets besides these houses. What about his construction business, or savings accounts, or retirement funds? The article makes no indication of what happened to anything besides the homes and boat. It sounds hard to believe that a judge would award 80% of total assets to the wife. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/15 07:59 PM |
| 1 | Pussy Pass Issued for Jodi Arias by Female Juror - Who Stated the Death Penalty for Women is Revenge - Spares Jodi Arias' Life in 11-1 Decision in Death Penalty Deliberation in the Death of Travis AlexanderWhat I take issue to is the fact that OP altered the quote in order to make it sound like the juror thinks the death penalty against women in general is wrong. OP clearly knew what he was doing, because if you read the article, there is no indication of gender bias and thus no reason to even post it here in the first place. Meanwhile it has 50 upvotes and people wonder why this subreddit is widely considered a joke. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/15 02:47 AM |
| 1 | Pussy Pass Issued for Jodi Arias by Female Juror - Who Stated the Death Penalty for Women is Revenge - Spares Jodi Arias' Life in 11-1 Decision in Death Penalty Deliberation in the Death of Travis AlexanderWell that's a shortcoming in the article, isn't it, It's only a shortcoming if it was apparent in the trial that gender played a role in this decision. If it was not apparent that this was the case, then the article wouldn't include anything about it... Obviously. I honestly haven't been following this trial, so if there was any indication that her gender played a role in her avoiding the death penalty, that wasn't included in this article, then feel free to bring it up. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/15 08:02 PM |
| 4 | Pussy Pass Issued for Jodi Arias by Female Juror - Who Stated the Death Penalty for Women is Revenge - Spares Jodi Arias' Life in 11-1 Decision in Death Penalty Deliberation in the Death of Travis AlexanderLots of people are opposed to the death penalty, I don't see what gender has to do with it. I know you want to make it about her gender, but there is nothing to indicate that. And if there is and I'm just missing it, I'd love to see it. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/15 02:41 AM |
| 5 | Pussy Pass Issued for Jodi Arias by Female Juror - Who Stated the Death Penalty for Women is Revenge - Spares Jodi Arias' Life in 11-1 Decision in Death Penalty Deliberation in the Death of Travis AlexanderIf you read the article, there is no indication her gender had anything to do with it. OP fabricated the quote in the title. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/15 02:21 AM |
| 35 | Pussy Pass Issued for Jodi Arias by Female Juror - Who Stated the Death Penalty for Women is Revenge - Spares Jodi Arias' Life in 11-1 Decision in Death Penalty Deliberation in the Death of Travis AlexanderThe juror allegedly said "the death penalty would be a form of revenge.", according to another juror. OP clearly altered the quote to fit his agenda, but there is no indication that gender had anything to do with that jurors decision. A lot of people are morally against the death penalty, and gender plays no role in that. Crap like this is what gives MRM a shitty reputation. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/15 02:09 AM |
| 7 | Pussy Pass Issued for Jodi Arias by Female Juror - Who Stated the Death Penalty for Women is Revenge - Spares Jodi Arias' Life in 11-1 Decision in Death Penalty Deliberation in the Death of Travis AlexanderConsidering she was convicted of murder, I don't know how you can argue she got away with it, she just didn't get the death penalty. And considering it was a woman who was the hold out, I really don't think her looks had anything to do with it. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/15 02:02 AM |
| 5 | Blue Pillers, how do you ensure you're not cheated on in an LTR?What do Blue Pillers do to ease the anxiety of knowing you may be cheated on? I never have this anxiety with my partner. We've been together many years and the possibility of cheating doesn't cross my mind. We have earned each others trust and have a very positive relationship. I think if you have constant anxiety that your partner is cheating on you than: A) Your relationship is dysfunctional and/or B) You have trust issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/15 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Crazy circumcision comment roundup.There are lots of men who said sex was better after being circumcised also. Some studies showed the majority of men felt that sex was better and some vice versa. There hasn't been any conclusive trend one way or another in the studies conducted. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/11 03:47 AM |
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