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You don't want a girl who's fucked half the town? You're just jealous and frustrated that you're not valuable enough to have fucked half the town yourself is a strange position to take. It's a strange position because you added an assumption that I never made. When you say " You don't want a girl", you're implying that these low count guys that are criticizing these girls were provided with an opportunity to sleep with any of them and turned them down... when in reality, no such offer made. In t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:25 AM
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I think the real term here is jealousy. The only men that criticize sexually active women are lower value men who are frustrated at their own low count. I've met many guys who have a high count, and they don't give a rat's ass about the girl's count. There is a certain sense of confidence, or arrogance, that "while yes, there may have been 100 guys behind me, I'm going to rock your world like none of them did. And if you don't like it, then who cares, there's a dozen other girls that I can be wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:30 PM
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> Because homeless women will raped It's interesting how feminists always advocate that women are aren't equal to men and should live by a privileged set of rules (for example in this case, they shouldn't be held to a mutually agreed upon social contract in a relationship.. because the woman could be raped), while at the same time, always screaming "women are equal to men and should be treated the same". -B
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:34 PM
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>don’t think I could ever go further than a casual/fwb relationship with a single mom. Wanna see how many others align w this.. 1) It's one of the easiest ways to date above your weight class. That 9 with 2 kids is now a 6 at best because of the attitude of guys not wanting anything to do with her. 2) You say that you couldn't go further, and that is your intention at the moment, but intentions change as the relationship progresses... the road to hell is paved with good intentions :) -B
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:38 PM
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What are some ways you observe these traits outside a relationship? Watch how she treats others. Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!! -B
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:32 PM
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> they're very picky, set in their ways and will constantly try to make you feel like you're wrong or lesser if you disagree. It's the same song and dance...shit tests but on steroids. You need to respond in kind and maintain your frame of dominance, playfulness and not caring. Call her out for being brat, and tell her she's going to get a spanking if she continues with her behavior :) -B
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:34 AM
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Does PUA actually work? It worked for me, I went from a guy who was extremely uncomfortable talking to any girl outside, such as my waitress at a restaurant, to dating multiple girls for long periods of time, sleeping with over 50 girls, and 2 marriages. ​ If so which PUA's ideas worked best for you? There are 2 sides to becoming successful with pickup, 1) the tools / techniques 2)the inner game - how you feel about yourself. People starting out are obsessed with the techniques, they will downlo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:09 PM
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> Go read through the sugaring subreddits. It's not a binary situation. Plenty of sugar babies are attracted to their sugaring partner lets say 4-6/10 Yes exactly. I haven't done it myself, but I know 2 older guys that have, and I've witnessed multiple times how a transactional relationship moves towards a more organic one through the passage of time. The girls become "comfortable" with the guys, and its no longer gross, just becomes normal. I have seen them move the girls in after about 6 month…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:39 AM
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>What is the functional difference between a sugar relationship and most marriages involving wealthy men? The difference is that the guy can continue to get new sugar babies without losing half of his wealth after every girl. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:30 AM
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> Personally, I don't find the company of women that enjoyable. It is often boring (YOU have to be her entertainer) at best and at worse it costs money and patience and resources, even if you are sexually interested in her. First, being an orbiter shouldn't be costing you money or patience. While I'm already with between 1-3 girls at any given time, I try to make time to text the other 10 or so girls whenever I'm doing anything fun, which happens a lot. I text them all the exact same quote/pic/e…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:25 AM
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> Would you feel offended or put off by a woman having a 2-3 month no sex rule? No, but at the same time, I would keep things very casual and still date other girls. If we haven't had sex yet, we are not together. Even if we did have sex, we are probably not together, but DEFINATELY not before hand... we are like friends who enjoy spending time together once in a while. > Do you think women should do this to filter out guys who just want to sleep with them? No, because I don't think its effectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:34 AM
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> Chill out a bit. I've heard red pill guys advocate treating women like employees. Great advice, especially in the early stages of a relationship. Be a boss, don't be a petty insecure tyrant. I treat mine as children. I reward them when they are good, spank them when they are bad, I love them and take care of them. It works out very well, girls naturally conform to this behavior and enjoy it :) -B
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:21 PM
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> Lol imagine getting relationship advice from a 18 year old woman. ... and yet her advice is sufficiently over your head that you can't argue with it, so instead you try to attack the person behind it. Since you brought up 'imagination', I date a lot of younger girls (early 20's), and naturally the topic of some of the companies I founded and run comes up, and there have been several times where I have gotten great advice about some new idea I'm trying to implement, and there is a lot more genu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:28 AM
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Not really, because from I've seen, HVM's don't consider women as 'sluts' just because they are sexually active. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:43 PM
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> I cannot understand why any person looking for a serious relationship would not support the FDS 3-month for sex strategy. The reason you wouldn't want to make guys wait 3 months is because you will filter out all of the high value males that have many options, they will drop you once it is known that you are resistant to moving things forward, and end up with desperate men, who are more willing to jump through whatever hoops that are outside of societal norms. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:21 PM
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> Whilst it cannot be denied that women's value is more closely tied to their physical appearance, women have far more latitude with which to beautify themselves; When it comes to sexual marketplace value, women's value is attached to looks and is difficult to improve. Men's value is attached to status, money, looks, personality, etc. and is MUCH easier to improve upon. Also, our SMV rises as we are adults, while for them its great at 18-21 and then just steadily declines. >men still constitute …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:45 PM
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>These two things are not mutually exclusive. You can both not think women should be free agents and also seek women who agree with you Yes that's true, but you're missing the point. We are discussing the typical behavior of RP men, not what they 'can' do. Are they attending rallies to remove women's freedoms, trying to get laws overturned, making comments on boards saying that women should have no freedoms... etc.. or do they spend their time evaluating women in their lives that have those valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 09:16 PM
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Sex is consensual. Noone used anyone here Just because it's consensual, doesn't negate the fact that its still transactional. When you say 'used', you're implying someone victimized someone else, that doesn't have to be the case if they each got what they wanted out of it. ​ Money, relationship, status. In which case it’s just prostitution with a few extra steps. LOL, yes prostitution by the hour vs by the decade (get married, divorced, take half of his stuff plus child support and alimony, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 09:11 PM
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men have used women for their bodies and women have used men for their resources, and this is still common today I think that being used for your body is a bit more dehumanising than being used for your resources Of course it is, that's why men always had, and always will have it better.. and there's NO amount of feminism, government programs, laws, or cultural norms favoring women, or women pretending that things don't get far worse than men as they age is going to change this fact. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:57 AM
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they do not think women should be allowed to reject such a system That's nonsense. They go out and seek women that are in line with their values, meaning that there are women out there already that are freely choosing to live like this. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:02 PM
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Men are inherently pursuers and conquers. That’s in your biology. It’s masculine to initiate, plan, LEAD. If women start to do this then we step into our masculine energy.en don’t seem to like that either and it tends to push men away. If you don’t lead, then women think you’re not interested. And healthy women won’t chase you. Emotionally unstable women with low self esteem might step into their masculinity to imitate more. Yes exactly! -B
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 04:29 PM
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Meeting someone and being in a relationship isn't the same thing, you need to see the whole picture, and see the advantages that men have. ​ I'd say no less than 90% of my dates with women have been very one-sided: I have to initiate everything from the first conversation to the planning to the kissing to the sex to the future dates whilst they seem to sort of sit back and enjoy the ride, even when they're interested. Yes, you have to put on a show for girls, as do the other guys. However, you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 04:16 PM
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>Shouldn’t more “masculine men” be supporting feminism and womens rights to access abortion, especially if it will make both parties better off? Aside from the religious aspects, there is also a subset of men who don't like how they have no decision making power over the process, and limiting abortion give them some power back. If two consenting adults have sex, the woman alone decides whether to tell the guy, whether to have the abortion, whether to have an adoption, whether to put his name on …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:06 AM
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She said in the past she's had 3 or 4 FWB that she liked hanging with and when they confessed feelings to her she responded "why did you have to ruin this?" Yup, the hotter/more experienced the girl, the more you have to create an environment where she has to 'chase' you for the relationship. Guys always ruin this by confessing feelings/asking for more etc.. even when the girl explicitly tell you not to... haha The relationship should be a prize that you are offering her that she has to earn. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:16 PM
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Obviously i know its cause of the shame factor but i've overheard unnecessarily crass things said to men by drunk women and attempted assaults Women? Why? Women's true nature is displayed when there is no physical threat... they are also very mean to each other -B
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 06:11 AM
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Men need women. Women don't need men that much. ...and that explains all the nature shows where guys are living in the forest away from civilization... you ever see one featuring a female?? Wonder why? ​ If paired-up women are happier being in a romantic relationship.. why is it that the majority of romantic relationships are ended by women? Because the guys in those relationships are lazy. They also want to leave, but know that it will take effort to find the next relationship, to continue havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:32 PM
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Is "chasing" women that said no to your date advances ever worth it? Yes, but the key is to keep them as "orbiters", don't focus on "one" girl.. ever... If I'm doing something interesting, attending a concert, doing outdoor stuff, or even just sharing a funny pic, I will message the same thing to 5 or 10 girls.. that have all said 'no' several times.... its fun to see how they all respond differently... Tip: I'm always already with a girl whenever doing something, so I try to sneak in a pic or t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 08:45 PM
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The sex worker would have a civil case for the breach and probably a criminal fraud case if the customer made the deal without intending to pay. You can't enforce an illegal contract. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 07:46 PM
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>Society should embrace non-monogamy This is already happening. The top X% of males are sleeping with most of the females.. the only difference right now is that the females don't know about each other... -B
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:29 AM
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The weight isn't the issue. It's everything that comes with it Yes, exactly. You are limiting yourself in what activities the 2 of you will be doing together. Want to walk around the park or hike on a trail? Want to go kayaking? Want to take a flight and see that she doesn't fit in her seat (or has to get an extension belt or is uncomfortable/embarrassed etc...), want to go to a sporting event and try to see her fit in the little seats? want to ride in the new mario kart ride? .... I like to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:12 PM
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> What are signs that a person is using you as second choice or is settling for you? There's no easy or objective way to discover this... you might think one way would be comparing how she treats and behaves towards you v.s. previous bf's, assuming you had the luxury of knowing this.. but even that would be faulty because treatment is a two-way street and many people will treat you only in ways in which 'you allow' them to do so.... > Most men and women dont want to date someone whom they find o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:41 PM
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A lot of us aren’t thinking about dating, marriage, or settling down fresh out of high school. So there’s no rush like there was over 3 decades ago. Great, I'm not thinking about those things either! Let's keep this casual ​ Modern men are scared that they aren’t wanted like they were that long ago and it’s true. Only the desperate ones. The guys that are able to pull are VERY happy with this new reality. In the past, girls always wanted you to commit to them, to settle down, have kids, etc.. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 06:02 AM
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So, genuine question, why is sexual exclusivity important to you, if it is? Where do you think that idea came from? Primarily, I think it stems from jealousy and wanting a level of control in the relationship. In men, its because they view the relationship as a purchase or an "investment", for sex in return. Initially they buy flowers, dinners, etc. and then as the commitment grows, so does their investment, and they don't want to 'lose it'. For women, they see men as a 'Resource', and they don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:26 PM
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So much hostility on here.... is this real life? Or is this strictly an online extremist discourse type of deal? Online is not only more extreme, but it usually misses the mark entirely, that's part of why its so fun and entertaining to read. It's like watching a typical reality tv show where they put all the angry and crazy people in the same room. Some examples... Online, girls will tell you that approaching girls in coffee shops and grocery stores is harassment and try to shame you for it and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:36 AM
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Men can never know for sure if their child is actually theirs unless they get a paternity test, which is something many women say they'll break up if he even asks for one. Paternity tests are even illegal in some countries. If we don't find out if we're not the child's father in time, we will still have to care for the child. That's just a fucked up thing to say and you've outed yourself as totally insecure and have placed women below you. A classic trope found in most threads on this sub. Are y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:49 AM
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this woman choose not to have children but lives a stupidly mundane life, and never did she once try to do anything to make up for her lack of a family. She's forever stuck in this limbo where nothing new nor exciting happens to her. It's just a pathetic, tragic existence all around. I feel great pity for her, but God, those pictures were eye opening for me. Curious... are you jealous that she's happy with a mundane routine and didn't sacrifice her life for children, or is this more a reflection…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:21 AM
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How would feel if someone you were dating - received roses today - from their ex-husband? What would y’all do? Remember, at the end of the day, this other guy is somewhere trying to buy her affection/attention, while you are at her house doing her... so who is winning here?? Don't worry about it.. at all.. Playing the jealous boyfriend by questioning or confronting her will just expose your vulnerability and reduce her attraction to you. Instead, say "Wow, most guy's wouldn't be this nice after …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 05:34 AM
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>How do you solve the "The Fatherless Crisis"? Easy, stop de-incentivizing men to being fathers. What do you think happens to men who are given the standard 'every other weekend' custody of the child? Not every man can afford expensive lawyers to fight this. Stop incentivizing women to get divorced by shifting too much financial assistance from the man with no regard on his wellbeing. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 09:25 PM
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Hell, most men here say they want to be chosen by women purely on desirability and not be 'success objects'. Haha... that's funny..... the better question is not what they want, but what they are willing to settle for... If they had 2 options, be alone and single, or be the success object, most single guys would choose to be the object... -B
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:17 PM
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> But that touches the essential female point: sex is special, and not ideally to be traded for other things. It's traded all of the time for relationships. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:55 PM
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The essential feminist/female position might be that every sex act has to be fully and enthusiastically consented to by both parties (however that consent is communicated). This means that if she has a headache for 3 weeks straight, fine. But institutionalizing the relationship, no matter how egalitarian the terms, inevitably creates expectations and pressures for women to sexually compromise at some point or another. There are expectations and pressures for men as well such as providing food an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:37 PM
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> *Who Owns The Sex?* Women own sex, men own relationships. That's how it was before, that's how it is now. Cougars and Stay at home dads are a very small minority and aren't taken into account on the bell curve. > And it is that Charity of 'Give' that makes it Romance. Excluding prostitutes and sugar babies, you cannot buy a woman's affection. Contrary to pop culture, buying gifts or favors for a woman will NOT increase her attraction to you. In fact it is the opposite, overly romantic gestures…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:05 AM
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>Do you think it's still possible to get girls even if you lack a good personality or are not that good looking if you're rich? YES OF COURSE!!!! , but its actually worse than that. You don't even have to be rich, just pretend to be. I had a friend 15yrs ago who couldn't get any dates online, and felt he was being passed over because of his social/wealth status... so to get revenge, he decided to just make one up. He re-uploaded a new profile where pretended he was a wealthy doctor, and the girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 04:18 PM
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Why do PPD women have such an axe to grind with the age gaps? Its the same women who will angrily tell you that there's no wall and that at 40 they can get the same quality and quantity of guys as when they were 20. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 11:55 PM
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They can push boundaries and normalize abusive behavior because their age gives them a position of authority. If you're going to be the morality police, what do you think should be done about younger hot girls who normalize abusive behavior through entitlement mentality? -B
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 11:53 PM
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The bigger the age gap, the lower the likelihood her interest is genuine. The problem with your entire thesis, is that the bigger the age gap, the less the guys' care whether the interest is genuine. They don't want to have her as a long term gf, wife, etc. They are happy if she runs away because he didn't have to waste the emotional effort to break up with her. Your example of your friend in his 40's who fell for a 20's stripper and was shocked to see her with another guy and was heartbroken is…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 11:39 PM
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A lot of very interesting points, but there really is no nightmare scenario ​ However, as you get towards the middle rankings of women in mate value, and lower, women increasingly become unable to be sufficiently attracted to their male mate rank equivalents. I think that you need to step into a walmart, especially one that exists in smaller towns across america. There are TONS of very low value males with ...someone... ​ But the real nightmare scenario has to do with the biologically determined…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 09:35 PM
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>Reason why women can stay single easily is because sex is easy for them LOL, NO! First of all, sex is easy for *almost every girl out there... from the 10's all the way down to the 2's.... and all of them have the same problem... its not in finding sex... but finding a guy who 1) wants a committed monogamous relationship (not just sex) that is also 2) perceived higher value than them..... In fact, the hottest girls have it harder.. because how many guys are out there with a higher value than a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 03:24 AM
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>Whats your thoughts on men dating younger women? 6+ years age difference As a guy in his 40's dating 20yr olds, the LAST thing in this world that I care about, is what other women think about this age gap. It's legal and its a lot of fun :) ! -B
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 08:55 AM
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>You think being ugly and also then being a douche to women is going to increase your chances here? Nope! They will need much more game than an average to good looking guy. They will need to start being nice and build a lot of comfort first, and then over time, transition to behave as someone ...well .. less nice :) I've had a few girls show me their conversation threads where some ugly guy is initially sending them overtly strong / sexual messages, and when I asked how they felt, their reaction…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:52 PM
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>Most sexually successful guys are living red pill without even knowing what red pill is. YES!! I remember in the early years complementing guys with things like 'that was great push/pull', or 'that was a funny neg', etc... using pickup lingo... and they would be like... WTF?? I don't know what you're talking about... I'm just having a good time... Learning from Naturals was very interesting.. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:38 PM
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> We are watching the downfall of western society, and I am very scared of the new one that is gonna replace it. Embrace, enjoy and take advantage of the decline. >What we should be promoting is that is we need to be better for our children and their children. Pick a country that you like better and move there with your children.. it's easier than trying to change society, and it will be more exciting and fulfilling that you had a wild adventure. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:33 PM
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But realistically some of you who are single will meet someone eventually. Or have since you got in to RP you have. What happens then? Reading/Agreeing with/Joining/Practicing an instruction guide/ideology/etc. won't change your true nature or desires in the short term. If you're a guy who wants a girlfriend and to be in love, and suddenly you read and agree with PUA/TRP/etc.. , you will have the fantasy that you can now go around and sleep with tons of girls, you will employ the techniques, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:16 PM
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OP is trying to make it seem like men posting here are pedophiles. Winner Winner, Chicken Dinner -B
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 09:24 PM
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> The real reason men consider a woman bragging about “having her degree” a red flag Part of the issue is that in America, people are overly concerned about wealth. One of the first things people ask each other in cocktail parties, or dating, or anywhere... is 'so, what do you do for a living?' ... and if its not much, then the substitute is 'I have a degree in...' ... either way, they are just trying to measure you up and classify you, as if this had any significance to anything... In the datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:03 PM
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We do think that women posses kindness, nurturing, and problem solving capacities that men do not. Problem solving capacities?? Hahaahaa... I've never heard that to be a stereotype as a female attribute... mostly the opposite, the stereotype is that men are superior in mental abilities. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 07:06 PM
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Lol, the guy who coached Mystery said that he would go to these clubs dressed like a clown and would collect numbers but none of the girls would give him a real number or would ever go out with him. They just wanted him to go away. I remember a guy in Toronto who would get lots of prostitutes off of craigslist, back in the day when that was a thing. He was a really cheap guy and would bargain them down to ridiculous prices. Some of the professional prostitutes got together and formed lists where…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:55 PM
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Let's say you had two men. One of them was a IT guy or some other kind of computer science job, made a lot of money, but he worked from home and wasn't very social. Or, if he did have friends, all they do is play DND or video games together, he's very much your stereotypical nerd. Then you had another guy who who left the house often, has an active social life, works in office where he regularly talks to other people, but makes less money. She will fuck the social guy and marry the IT guy. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:27 PM
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>No one deserves anything in life or in dating. That should be the top comment! You get what you fight and negotiate for -B
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 03:37 PM
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>Men who crave a relationship, to raise children & have a family unit are not masculine Aside from "who cares what others think, do what makes you happy", I think the reason that men initially desire these things is because they are sold a pipe dream, a fantasy that is far removed from reality, and also pressure from societal and family conventions and expectations. >Most married men are sexually frustrated because they’re all bored & fight their biology until they finally give in NO, the "givin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 03:27 PM
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This suggests that only monogamous marriages are truly " SUSTAINABLE" The length of the average monogamous marriage in the US is 8yrs. Some of the sister wives here remained for decades. This suggests that polygamous marriages are MORE sustainable. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:37 PM
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Lets say tinder comes with a new add on where women can she how many matches a guy has on his profile. Meaning she can actually see that the guys see tends to swipe left on has little to no matches and the guys she swipes right on has hundreds to thousands of matches. Would this change her swiping patterns? Yes, but you don't need a new add-on, this already happens today. Girls have let me play with their tinder accounts, and we would swipe together. I was shocked on *many* occasions, girls woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:09 PM
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Would you ever consider becoming a step dad? Or is a woman already having children to another man a 100% dealbreaker? If I was ready to settle down and have children, it would be okay as long as I eventually had a child or two of my own with her as well, then the step kid would just fold into a larger family, and as long as she had a sufficiently higher SMV to make up for the burden of the child. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 08:23 PM
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The most shocking thing about the Red Pill, as a woman, is that Men need a Red Pill and that what is *generally* attractive to women isn't reasonably obvious Its not shocking if you consider that society teaches men to understand the world and behave in a way that is completely contrary to how it works, so they have to unlearn everything and change their behavior. Women are basically taught what is true. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 08:12 PM
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>Heres the thing about most women: They don't take any shit. I found the opposite to be true. Girls are VERY forgiving and give a guy MANY chances. I'm constantly entertained at the stories girls give about their previous relationships and dates and just what I see in my friend group. > For guys we have to do something similar even if we don't get as many opportunities These games are fun to play, but as a man, the key is to do it AFTER you are in a relationship with her, or at least slept with …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 10:24 PM
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I find it disturbing young women, having those rich opportunities to get up, are taking such low wage jobs. Perhaps you should approach them, let them know how disturbed you are, and offer them some of those rich opportunities haha... -B
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 10:06 PM
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I’d imagine intentionally leveraging anything over someone for sex, which is still intimate even casually, is kinda shitty for the other party. Should be mutual with no intentional leveraging need REALLY? Like girls wanting you to buy them dinner and more for a chance to sleep with them? haha -B
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:59 PM
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Literally doing anything to get sex as a man and you are bad, that's why men need to not give a fuck what women think and just do what they want. Congrats on discovering this hahaha! I will extend this to say, don't give a fuck to what *anyone* thinks.. there's lots of seemingly well meaning white knights, religious folks, etc. that will all try to shame you/ guilt you/etc, fuck them all... I've never been happier living the life that goes against what is being propagated by society. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:56 PM
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There are two main differences in how *most* men and women cheat. 1) Most females rationalize and justify the behavior in their heads, males, don't. This plays out when they are caught, men will apologize and say the other girl means nothing to them and plead for forgiveness, while women will say 'well it's because you're always out late never home', 'you don't give me enough attention', 'we fight all the time', etc... they will have thought out a reason of why this is all okay and try to turn t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 09:22 PM
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Social legitimacy is the last major non-legal perk of marriage This is pretty close to 0. Guys get married because they want to 'lock down the pussy', they are tired of hunting, and want continuous ongoing sex without further effort. Girls are hardwired to want a security blanket, whether its physical, financial, emotional, or all of the above. While both are self entitled, the man's needs are viewed as optional, while the women's needs are mandatory, and the current legal framework favors women…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 09:04 PM
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Are chubby girls more forgiving when it comes to a mans LOOKS? Yes, they are more forgiving to looks, personality, status, cheating, willingness to participate in sexual things that they may not be comfortable with, etc. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 09:20 PM
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The dangers are mental masterbation so to speak, sitting there reading and watching redpill content and not applying it. That's true of most 'self help' books/videos/seminars. Reminds me of a guy I knew that bought a book on procrastination, but never got around to reading it.. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 09:47 PM
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> What life consequences will I face if I take too much of the red pill? How will it impact my life? Have you ever appreciated and enjoyed watching a magic trick but then it lost its allure when the curtain was pulled back and it was explained how the trick was performed? -B
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:33 PM
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It's very simple really, there are a few benefits. 1) All of those things that women expect out of men and not of themselves, absolutely guarantees that the one thing that they want most, "Equality", will never be achieved. Do you know what happens to a man who's a coward but slowly learns to approach women and overcome his fears? He gains confidence, he gains charisma, he gains ability to negotiate, ability to socialize under pressure, he learns to stand up for himself, he learns to take action…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:19 AM
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This argument falls apart when you actually look at outcome related data showing that a similar amount and if anything more men have met, hooked up, or gotten a relationship through it. Not really, because overall the hookups are small numbers compared to the men that join, don't get matches, and stay on for years. Women on the other hand, regardless of matches or not, become in-active much sooner, usually after 2 or 3 bad experiences. Think about it another way, forget about hookups. Both men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:47 AM
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It's a commonly held belief, mostly among blue pillers, that woman are good at detecting and snuffing out fake confidence, bluster and boasting from men. Let me tell you personal story. I had a friend whose cultural demanded that he was either in a highly well paid position (doctor/lawyer) or just wealthy in order to attract females... well this is what he perceived after being rejected by a large number of girls... So, he pretends to be a wealthy business man even though he has no money and no …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:02 PM
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> Date 2: dinner at your house YES! and desert in the bedroom :) -B
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:46 PM
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>Why must I be the one coming up with every date idea? Every activity. Every outing. Welcome to manhood, you must be new here.. let me show you around. In case you didn't know, you will also be the one doing all of the initiating and escalating, flirting, and so on. When the check comes, you will be the one expected to pay. In case of any danger, you will be the one expected to protect. When things break down or there are surprises, such as a flat tire, or broken garbage disposal, or noises outs…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:43 PM
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The illogical part: She had said that she has countless times engaged in hookups and casual sex with guys she thinks is hot but not "long term relationship" material. Then in the next breath went on to say it's disgusting for men to go after women for hookups and casual sex. Its very logical, even without the first statement, but that just makes it more fun and adds context. She's just trying to get a rise out of you and see how you're going to react, which helps determine who you are.... it's s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:04 AM
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I heard that most HBCU's have demographics of 66% or more females enrolled which means that there is roughly 2 females for every male... heavy competition... outside of school, the jobless rates and incarceration rates, and felony rates for black males are very high which makes them undesirable for many females.. and many of the few remaining good black guys are off with a white girl... -B
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:39 AM
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Here is my question to men: If you agree with the fact that as men you don't deal with women asking you for nudes often, if at all, & that people don't really care about men's nudes, do you find this fact an overall net positive or negative? Its absolutely great, and is due to the differences in how attraction works for males and females and also proof that women just don't care AS MUCH about a man's looks as we do about theirs. Women are typically only objectified for their looks alone, which p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 04:11 PM
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> women who are below average looking, what about her made you romantically into her? Usually its been because its less effort and easier to drop. Sometimes its competing interests, so you have to decide to do X in your business and pick up your ugly girl later tonight, or forget about X and and put effort into the better girl. Sometimes its the package depending on mood. For example, do you pick the hot girl who you have to take to a nice place for dinner and you will have straight sex? Or the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:29 PM
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>Most of the OGs of PUA are more blue pill than red pill It's hard to know what their true thoughts/beliefs are. Remember that the PUA's you are talking about, and really any of the ones we all heard about, are marketers and salesmen at their core, and PUA is secondary.. What they state publicly is through the lens of growing their presence and market. Talking about more controversial subjects may result in negative feedback, they may get banned from some platforms depending on how far they go, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:51 PM
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> Inexplicably, in a relatively short period of time, they began to go cold emotionally It's usually not that inexplicable, its very rational, they just don't tell you the reasons. I've been in casual relationships with many girls over the years who would discuss their recent dates. Initially, I was shocked at guy's behaviors, now I'm just entertained at the stories. Most of the time, the guy does one or more very cringe things that really turn her off, so she ends the date, says she had a nice …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:52 AM
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I think the problem with early 20 yr olds is that they do still think like kids, most of them. Not really a problem, more of a benefit if you both think the same way. I'm in my 40's and date girls in their early 20's....Everyone thinks is because of the better bodies/skin, less body count, etc.. which is all a nice plus .. but a big reason is compatibility...A girl in her early 20's wants to attend a concert, go to bars, get drunk, and generally JUST HAVE FUN... like me! nothing serious!!!! What…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:21 AM
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Men should stop blaming feminism for the problems in society For the most part, they don't. Only an extremely small minority do, in incel groups and whatnot. Females on the other hand, constantly complain about men openly and everywhere, it is culturally acceptable. In the office, in politics, on tshirts ("boys are stupid, throw rocks at them") , on social media (tiktok), blogs (imagine inversing the gender on some of the subredits here and posting the same things, they would be banned immediate…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:16 AM
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> As a guy you should never tell women your intentions directly. While that's true, its probably not for the reasons most people think..... the main reason is that because girls are socially aware and they already know... you walk up to a girl and tell her she's pretty.. guess what.. she already knew that by the second you approach her.. its boring.. its what everyone else does.. she knows you approached her because of her looks... there's no other reason.... What are most guys initial intention…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 04:20 AM
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TikThots HAHA !!! Love it.. but Chad won't commit! The horror! I'm not saying I'm a Chad, but for the girls that want me to commit, I take a different approach. Instead of ghosting the girl after sex, I ask her to jump through ever more difficult hoops. She needs to start waxing her pussy and wear thongs and garter belts, then outfits (cheerleading, schoolgirl, nun).. then start doing anal, rim jobs, and golden showers, in that order. Then we make videos of this, then threesomes... Usually this …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:36 AM
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You don't understand what men put up with in the beginning and what women can get away with First, you can even the score with volume. When you have 3 dates for Friday, it doesn't matter if 2 of them flake. I can't tell you the amount of times that I had this nonchalant back and forth interaction with girls in the beginning where days or weeks and sometimes months would pass, finally we would agree to meet up, she would flake a few times, but EVENTUALLY would meet up. A few times I had to cancel…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:17 AM
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I dated guys beneath me because I needed some emotional support and was in a vulnerable situation. They took advantage of me That explains your previous actions, but not your current mental attitude. Did you dump them for being beneath you and now you feel bad about it, so you're performing mental gymnastics to try and excuse away your behavior and justify your actions? If you want to cheat, go and cheat, but did you really think that the general consensus on reddit were going to agree with your…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 02:55 AM
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In fact Rocket Engineering would be a cake walk in comparison. Women are indeed Rocket Science when it comes to understanding them. Their wants, their needs, what they respond to, etc. ..and this is coming from the experience of building a rocket ship that you launched, but are still unable to get a date? Sounds like you are frustrated from being dumped/ghosted/rejected..? -B
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 02:46 AM
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First step is to categorize them. Second step is to find what motivates each group - what gives them pain? what gives them pleasure?. A pure salesman at heart, I love it! -B
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 02:42 AM
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I won’t deny that in the past I’ve cheated on partners, but that was primarily because I knew that was too good for them. Most people don't cheat based on the difference in attractiveness of their partner. The more interesting question is why you choose to date guys that you feel are underneath you, and then try to justify treating them poorly? Are you afraid to date someone on your level because you wouldn't be able to handle being emotionally hurt you if they did something negative? Were you h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:17 PM
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“is it okay to lie”, and it’s a common trend in this sub. Why do people try to justify being bad to others when it comes to dating? I think there are primarily two ways it is justified: 1) A lot of guys perceive dating to be unfair, when she gets 100 matches per day on tinder, and he gets 1 per week, when he has to approach and initiate and risk rejection, when he's expected to buy the meals, etc... so lying is justified by 'even-ing the score' 2) As guys just want to have sex in the beginning, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:39 AM
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The woman decides to initiate and make things heated and then leaves. It seems like it's a game meant for me to call them back. This kind of act actually makes me not want to call them back. So they play games, its fun! Don't take it so seriously... roll with it until you sleep with them... then its game over for them when you start playing your own :) ​ She also, upon entering my house stated that she would like to spend the night that night, saying that she'd had some drinks, even though she d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:18 AM
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Dear OP; I think before you give controversial advice on something, you should at least have *some* experience or vague knowledge about a topic. Your post might give pause and second thought to some guys from jumping in, (perhaps you're trying to convince yourself??? .. that's what I'm betting here ) but from guys that have done this for years or decades....we all recognize this is nonsense... here's why: On intelligence, you write: Of course, there is the minor problem that red pill primarily w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:15 AM
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Move to the place your partner is. Provide the lifestyle without creating legal obligations. She gets what she wants only as long as you are getting what you want. Hmm... that's an interesting solution for short term (3 to 6 months), you will have quite the adventure.. but long term? Seems like a big sacrifice to leave your friends/family/lifestyle .. for a girl? -B
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:59 PM
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or us normal folks, we can basically learn nothing. I always tell people that pickup/seduction doesn't end when you have a relationship or get married, it just gets more challenging ... the game NEVER ENDS I think that this divorce is a glaring lesson that if you don't understand female psychology, then even with money, good looks, celebrity status, (or all 3) still won't be enough to save you. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:54 PM
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It's only now that women are making $ from selling their nudes, vs men making $ from selling women's nudes, that it's suddenly a "huge issue" that "affects the dating market." Nothing has changed, men are still making money... look at the owners of Only fans, pornhub, etc. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:37 PM
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When women are only desired sexually it makes them insecure and feel like without providing sex they have no value. It gives the impression they aren't liked for their personality/being ..and yet many guys fail to understand that approaching women and complimenting them on their looks is a bad move.... almost any other type of opener is better -B
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:11 PM
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>Tinder for example was 73-27 men to women then but is 78-22 men to women now The reason for the m/f ratio disparities is simple, females drop off at a much faster rate. When women join, and they all pick the same top 5-10% of guys... those guys treat them poorly because they get a lot of matches and don't want to settle down. The girls get tired of this behavior and stop using the app after sleeping with 3 or 5 guys with no relationship and usually no effort on the guy's part. The other 90% of …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 06:09 PM
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statements women make about who they would date or not date turn out to not be true Men do the same. Or do you think that women have a patent for self-delusion or hypocrisy? I wouldn't say a patent, more of a monopoly. You make valid points about men's behavior but the difference is most men who care about high body counts don't date a hooker, most alpha males don't behave like a trained monkey, etc.. there are some for sure, but they are *outliers* ... whereas most females DO Behave as the post…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 07:51 PM
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How many of you have seen dudes in their mid thirties walking around with a beautiful young girl? How many of the red pill gurus are getting with gorgeous girls whilst having a good amount of fame and capital? If you walk around, and ask 1000 random guys how many have heard of TRP, and actually read the philosophy, and are practicing it... how many guys do you think it would be? I'm guessing 1-2 if you're lucky... So at best, if the TRP philosophy was 100% accurate and predictable, you would exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 05:51 AM
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How do you think the dating game (sex/relationships) would change in the west if: Women had their body count made into public information Men had their body count made into public information Men and women had their body count made into public information. It would be the same like age is right now.. most people that had similar counts would date each other... those that both had a 5 count would date each other.. people that both had a 50 count would date each other... People where the count var…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 03:11 AM
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I am wandering whether those who are involved in this stuff will feel a sense of guilt? Sometimes, when I lead a girl on for too long, 3-6 months, and she jumps through all of my hoops in bed, and she starts saying 'I love you'... and envisions a future with us... and I know that there won't be a long term one... then I do feel bad when I have to break it off... -B
/r/seduction22/09/22 06:45 AM
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My text game does suck though. Like how the hell do guys learn how to sext and escalate conversations? With most women from cold approaches, they don't reply back after a few messages anyway. So that's one thing I want to learn, how to be a flirtatious texter. I'm guessing based on your comment that you try to flirt too much and/or too early, instead of building comfort and demonstrating higher value. Also, text game is mostly about logistics and meeting up, you don't want to spend a lot of time…
/r/seduction22/09/22 06:38 AM
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E.g where one of you works away and your weekends are booked up for the next few weeks, so the soonest you can meet up is like 3-4 weeks away. In 4 weeks, the other person has time to have a quick relationship in between your next meeting haha.... but seriously, the problem isn't the next meeting, its the fact that if you're this busy, you will be meeting once a month for the foreseeable future, who wants to do that? That's a lot of effort in between... I find when something like this happens we…
/r/seduction22/09/22 06:33 AM
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As a man in my late 40's with no kids, and a relatively... "youth oriented" career who can, with some consistency date women in their early 30's and even rarely a mid-late 20's girl Damn DUDE!!!! I'm also in my 40's dating 20yr old girls, and was going to write essentially the same thing that while the hotness factor is there, that's not the most important aspect, its the fact that older women put up so much more shit tests and demands, and disqualifying you for stupid/random reasons. ​ Women un…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 04:53 AM
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What’s the move after sex? After she leaves or I drop her off, when I get home, if its the first time, I text her and tell her I had an amazing time, and 'sweet dreams' .. I want to make her feel good about what just happened. After that, short term, its the same level of texting/calling/attention, like nothing ever happened. After 4 or 5 times, its getting to relationship expectation territory, and then I escalate things in bed, get her to try things she hasn't done before. Long term, my approa…
/r/seduction22/09/22 04:32 AM
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How to build a strong frame? Or has anybody actually made the transition? I made the transition by understanding the world through abundance instead of scarcity, and also by believing that I bring more value to the table in any interaction. There is an inherent idea that its okay if your gf dumps you, or lose your job, because there is a better one around the corner. That you are doing them a favor by staying and contributing your value, instead of leaving for something else. For myself this was…
/r/seduction21/09/22 09:40 PM
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>I’m a woman reading through posts on subreddits reddit isn't a great place to poll for a view or consciousness of society, especially dating advice. The views here are extreme at both ends which is why its entertaining to read. >I don’t see how telling women that their value will go down as they age is going to encourage them back onto the dating market Your decision might be not to date, but for some other girls, it may encourage or motivate them to settle down with a guy and get married as so…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:18 PM
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>Who are these women you guys are all dating?! Who has even time to be such a cunt? In my experience, not always but *generally*, the hotter the girl, the more shit tests there are. This is because there are many more guys approaching her all of the time, and she really does need to swat them away like flies. According to pickup theory, girls don't do this consciously, they are programmed to do it to see who is is strong, confident, the alpha-male, its a marker for attraction. As long as you und…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:45 PM
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> This isn’t a men vs women crisis, this is more of an attractive vs unattractive people complex Actually, I think its more of an 'expectations' or perhaps 'entitlement' problem . The very unattractive people could pair up with each other, and some do, but many resist this and prefer to be alone. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:21 PM
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>Just like in nature, males love females as females. Females love males as tools and the female will weaponize sex to get what they want from the male. Its just how it is A lot of your conjecture is gross oversimplification, however some is just plain wrong. You conflate love and sex, and never bother to even once mention 'relationships', which as an aside, is the most important thing that a man can weaponize in defense of weaponizing sex. You mention that 'males love females as females', howeve…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 06:11 AM
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>learn how to statistics bro. >If you are a software engineer at MIT who got hired out of school to Google you have damn near a 100% chance. >Averages are not likelihoods. think about it Thank you for your enlightening statistics course, however you're missing a big factor. The degree to which averages ARE likelihoods depends on the amount that luck or random chance has to play in the outcome. You are severely discounting randomness here and you think that everything is just effort. In your own …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:51 AM
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> hedonistic depraved and disgusting lifestyle instead of focusing on having families and raising children, things which you acknowledge are vastly superior for everyone? Excuse me???? 1) Who says starting families and bringing more children into an over populated planet starving of resources is vastly superior to anyone???? 2) 50% of Marriages end in divorce... so there is a 50% chance that you will have to choose to lose half of your things and pay alimony and child support and be ruined finan…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:25 AM
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Are older women really jealous of younger more prettier women? They show their jealousy by attempting to demonize older men dating younger girls. Note that all of their complaints such as 'power dynamics' etc. would also come into play when the roles are reversed, but of course there's no hatred of older women dating younger guys, they embrace and celebrate those cougars too.. haha. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:40 PM
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>I mean honestly that makes absolutely no sense. First and foremost. Why would guys have a higher sex count when it comes to women when it's harder for guys to get sex? There is something else at play here. If you were to create a graph, on the X axis would be number of sex partners, and Y graph would be percentage of people, the female graph would look normal, there would be a hump, where around 7 people would be the top of the hump, and then it would go down on each side, so 6 and 8 would have…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 08:01 PM
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>It's just mental masturbation to feel like you're improving your social skills because you watched 20 videos on Craig Ferguson seducing women. The next step is try to imitate their behavior. I watched a ton of videos but it wasn't until I started recording my conversations and videotaping myself that things drastically improved.... watching yourself in playback mode was the AHA moment! -B
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 01:31 AM
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Getting rejected by women has always been this incredibly painful experience for me Normally, I would tell you that the issue is that you are putting girls on a pedestal, you think that they are better than you, and you are seeking validation from them which is very unhealthy....and I would provide you with some coping mechanisms... however.. I feel this intense feeling of sadness, defeat, anger, it causes me to lose all self esteem for myself and to call myself ugly and unlovable, and I stop ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 01:16 AM
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I approached three different women in the street today, Try approaching 100 girls not 3 I approach a girl with a Hi Try different approaches, situational observation, need opinion, have question, direct, comment on something about her, etc... see what works for you how do you guys manage your way around it Some girls won't like you, some have boyfriends, some are busy..etc.. Once you approach enough girls with proper technique, and get some positive responses, you'll realize it's just a numbers …
/r/seduction09/09/22 04:20 AM
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But let’s not pretend its not worrisome and weird for a 40 yr old dude with way more experience/money/power to be going after a 19 year old girl who went to prom last year. Is it worrisome and weird when its flipped and the power dynamic favors the girl, like when its a 20yr old guy is trying to ask out or match with a 20yr old girl who has 100X more opportunity? -B
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:42 PM
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Instead of two extremes such as everyone is the same or everyone is different, why not say .. along a bell curve, most people behave or react in these ways.. there's always going to be exceptions It's more useful, and I've found it particularly accurate for me. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:08 AM
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>If I was a cynic I'd claim that being "great communicator" renders you closer to a asexual gay bestie role in a woman's eyes than a romantic one. As a guy who has slept with a lot of women, I can tell you that your problem isn't how well you are able to communicate, but rather what you are communicating about. If you come off as needy, seeking validation, nice-guy, you can communicate all of your bad qualities very eloquently and they will just land you quicker into the friendzone. I've found t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:47 AM
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>It is objectively the worst factor for kids to live in a single-parent household; it's a stronger correlation to things like suicide, poor performance, etc. than even economic status is. People that stay together for the kids when they are unhappy tend to end up in very toxic relationships, they may be distant, cheat on each other, and be verbally and physically abusive. The kids will see that and think it is normal. Do you think this is still worse than a single parent? -B
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:09 PM
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Anyone here seduced a girl after blowing it up with her the first time? I'm not sure what you're referring to in particular, but if its something on the smaller side, pretend like nothing happened. Don't bring it up, don't apologize, don't draw attention to the past. Also, she might not come back right away, so just keep her as an orbiter while you're working on other girls, and do the usual things, DHV, flirting, comfort building etc.. -B
/r/seduction07/09/22 06:25 AM
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>After a certain n count, there's probably nothing she hasn't done previously. It could be a plus in some scenarios. Anything is possible, but personally that hasn't been my experience, and I've been with a lot of girls. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:05 AM
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>All of this drops into water when a girl is allowed to consider a high n-count guy disgusting. Not really. Guys that have a high count have enough social awareness skills with girls to know that they're not going to reveal it.. either by lying or just avoiding the question by changing the subject or giving cutesy answers.... at least not at first.. before he sleeps with her a few times.. and after that it won't matter -B
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:02 AM
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Q4RP: If women are only attracted to hot and/or wealthy men then why are the majority of men still able to find relationships? Most people in America live paycheck to paycheck and the average salary is $50k which isn't nearly enough for a gold digger to leech off of. I wouldn't say 'only attracted' but just to play devil's advocate with you, its all about relative wealth. The girl that lives in a trailer park and works part time at walmart or burger king, or no job at all, is going to see your 5…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:35 AM
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>If people can break up and divorce, why should the rest be unhappy ? Because its expensive. For poor people, spending 1k on a divorce is out of the question as they don't have the savings.. For guys that have assets, they don't want to lose half plus pay child support and maybe alimony for a decade or two. Also, many stay together for the kids falsely believing that it is better for them. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:29 AM
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> Why is it bad for guys to not want to be with women who’ve slept with 10+ guys? One of the reasons is that it shows that you're insecure, and maybe worried whether you're not as good as the previous 10 guys. >Men want to feel special just like women do You can do this in other ways, like doing something with her that she hasn't done before.. perhaps giving you a rim job, threesome, ass to mouth, or golden shower etc... As a side benefit, I found that the more *unique* things a girl does for me…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:20 AM
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>But we’re talking about wives and GFs. We’re talking about couples who have decided they both want a child. Of course, but women has been known to change their minds about things, especially during the span of 18yrs. If there are disagreements or breakups, they have the power to take the child away from the father and start limiting access and extract money. Don't you recognize that regardless of whether they wield this or not, just having that power of threat over men has a lot of value? -B
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 08:13 PM
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>With giving birth, there isn’t an equivalent that a man can do. Not entirely true. When two consenting adults decide to have sex, the woman alone decides whether she should have an abortion or not. She alone decides whether she will put the kid up for adoption, or even tell the father of the kid that its his. She alone can decide that the father will not have much access and pay child support instead. Even though there was a shared 50% decision in having sex, the man has 0% decision power about…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 07:20 PM
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>Why would you have an issue with her demanding you do it? I’m assuming she’d just be saying if she has to do something hard, you do too. Because relationships are about being a team and helping each other, not about competition and tit-for-tat. After your man mowed the grass outside or lifted heavy boxes, would you want him to come and say, 'okay now you do equivalent manual labour' .. or if he earned $100k/yr salary, do you want him coming home and saying..' Okay, off to work you go and make a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 05:02 PM
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>Which is why men should ask. See how she reacts. I don't ever ask. It shows that you care about how virtuous she is, not very attractive I don't want her asking me, and me either telling her my high count or lying You're about to sleep with a girl, the last thing you want is to bring this up, and for her to be conscious about the fact that she has a high number, and its going to get worse after she sleeps with you too.. What are you going to do differently after you find out? Probably nothing..…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 07:06 AM
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>i don't understand why women sleeps around and see it as recreational Because they've been taught by feminism/society/culture that they can and should be just like men. Most of the women that go through this phase stop, and realize that they are not like men. Its not something they are particularly proud of, and talk and brag about later in life... like guys do. >they sleep with friends of friends, go out to nightclubs and cheat ... it is insane. No, actually its great. Lots more available girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 06:56 AM
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I’m want to ask him to incorporate a dildo/penis sleeve in the bedroom so I can get that “full feeling again” but people are saying it’s wrong. I really don’t think that it’s a big deal and that if done tactfully no one’s feelings have to get hurt. Try anal, you'll get that full feeling! haha.. or better yet, put in a dildo of the size of your liking while getting anal. Seriously though, there were many girls I dated that were absolutely against anal, but over time decided to try it to make me h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 12:03 AM
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What prompted this post is seeing many comments on this sub talking about how sex shouldn’t be expected on a relationship, and if a woman doesn't want to have frequent sex with her male partner then "he should just get over it". A guy's job is to lead the relationship and he should create a dynamic where she wants to have sex with him. He shouldn't be begging or asking for it, this is extremely unattractive. If this is occurring, then he's doing it wrong and its his fault. If a girl doesn't meet…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 11:55 PM
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But for the guy who is inexperienced at making friendly small talk with women, for the guy who needs immersion therapy to break out of his social anxiety, for the guy who needs to know that women aren’t magical and are mere mortals like them, speed dating can be a very productive night out. THIS!! There are MANY inexperienced guys who would benefit tremendously from it, and even do it five or ten times just to get out of their comfort zone. There is no faster way to learn than approaching 15 or …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 10:44 PM
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>''Just be who are you'' and ''It's all about your heart'' is terrible advice. And I wish we would stop telling men this. Because it is flagrantly untrue. Simple. Women tell you this because 'just being who they are' works for them, same with Alpha guys who are getting lots of girls and learned game naturally early in life. The only guys left are the beta's who aren't good with girls, and you shouldn't be asking for their advice. >Women aren't going to marry you for your heart of gold if you loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:15 AM
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>There are expectations of male behavior, expression, and communication which are worlds apart from what women expected out of men in the past. I see this written all the time, that women's expectations have changed, mostly because they have more options now with social media, and because women have more financial freedom so they expect more from a guy than just a paycheck, since they can support themselves on their own. While these may be marginally, true, what no one seems to talk about is how…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 09:28 PM
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You are conflating two different topics, so let's discuss them separately 1) You are trying to make the case that statistically/mathematically you cannot become a high value man, because only the top X percent can be high value by definition, the rest will be under that. Your flaw in your logic is in assuming that ALL MEN are striving to be high value men, that all men are working out at the gym, or reading redit or pickup books or going to school to learn to be a doctor, or whatever it is you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 06:34 AM
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>Maybe so, then it’s a fair trade! Yes, exactly. I'm guessing that you are in a relatively happy and healthy relationship, which is why you can see a more balanced and nuanced view than many people here who are bitter. >Attraction is about more than appearance for women. Maybe most of us are just really turned on by a guy’s wallet. Oh trust me, I know! Women's attraction is complex and luckily includes many other aspects such as intelligence, confidence, humor, social standing, etc... I see this…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 06:08 PM
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>A woman without good looks can still have a fulfilling life that includes men that love and desire her. A man without good looks cannot. Its really the other way around dude. Women don't place as much value on a man's looks, as men place on a women's looks. Part of a man's attractiveness is confidence, humor, intelligence, social standing, wealth, etc... these are a lot of areas we as men can improve upon... for us none of things matter much when we are evaluating how attractive a woman is... -…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:34 AM
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>Sorry if you have gotten that message but women tend to “date down” in terms of looks far more often than men. That's because while everyone complains that women are objectified for their looks, not many people notice that men are equally objectified for their wallets and social standing while women are not. So while women 'date down' for a guys looks, in that same relationship, the guy is typically 'dating down' for their partner's wealth and a host of other attributes. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:26 AM
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If anything men only have physical preferences (not requirements), which are very low and is incredibly easy to obtain If men don't have standards like women have of: height , salary, if the woman has a college degree or not, confidence, sexual performance, if a woman drives or has a car, if a woman has her own house or lives with roommates, confidence, etc. You're conflating two separate scales/standards 1) The 'degree' of standards men vs women have (i.e. in a sample room of 100 people, how ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:13 AM
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>Ladies, how uniform and consistent do you find women's preferences to really be, when it comes to men? According to tinder statistics, most girls choose the same 5% of guys, so they are very consistent and uniform -B
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:51 AM
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. maybe his personality is not to convey his personality. Hi dude, thanks for your feedback, I should have added more details when I wrote the point about personality. I was suggesting that in your online 'profile', it is more difficult to convey that you are confident, funny, have social status, etc., then it is walking up to a girl and saying hello to her. In real life, you can project your voice with confidence, you can have a lot of energy when you speak, you can look her in the eyes, you ca…
/r/seduction25/08/22 03:44 AM
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So true! Old timer here (i.e. I learned the game from the Mystery Method manuscripts, David D'Angelo, Ross Jefferies etc when they were all the rage). Remember Mystery's top had and welding goggles??? Damn! That brings back some memories.. the golden age of PUA :) where it was taught in a structured way with military type planning, strategy and execution vs the watered down versions of today. ​ If you're not, then serious peacocking just creates incongruity that will make you come across as a fr…
/r/seduction24/08/22 05:47 PM
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I can get girls from dating apps if I put in enough effort but they are rarely ever girls I would have felt compelled to approach had I seen them out somewhere . For most people that do both, quality is higher IRL, and quantity is higher online. This is to be expected for a variety of reasons. 1) You cannot effectively convey your personality online, so you're going to be judged much more so on looks alone. 2) The best girls aren't online, between their sorority mixers and cheerleader events, th…
/r/seduction24/08/22 03:54 AM
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The problem is this. PUAs and dating gurus are nothing more that salesman. They are doing nothing but trying to make money. You could say the same about all self help material. They create a web of lies and tactics that sound good in a book The techniques worked for me The whole 10-20% of men get all the women is because 80% of men have had their minds ruined by dopamine and have no idea how to get women. Its become more polarized because of dating apps, social media, etc. that have allowed fema…
/r/seduction23/08/22 06:31 AM
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I couldn't even remember the last time I was actually genuinely interested in getting to know the person in front of me and not trying to figure out how to escalate, kiss, or get her to go home with me. Once I changed all of this and started socializing like a normal guy, women were almost too easy. | Same. People on here really need to hear this part. ​ I think this is the end result of game and getting good at pickup. Once you have scored with enough girls and see the world through abundance, …
/r/seduction23/08/22 06:27 AM
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At which point I walk away because I didn't spend the last hour showing you a great time to now have to compete with some loser wannabe Chad who doesn't have the social acuity to to use 5 words & say "Hey my name is X" Part of club game is learning how to deal with these people. One of the strategies is to pretend to befriend them but make of them in a subtle way that reveals their lower social status to the girls without getting into a fight. Another strategy is to be more a of a social butterf…
/r/seduction23/08/22 06:05 AM
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The premise is that the hookup culture is inherently more dangerous to women. And while the benefits of losing the shame might have been good. The cons don’t get spoken about more often and she’s making a case that they’re not small and should be discussed more often. I haven't watched the video, and I don't know about 'dangerous', but I've always thought its not in their best interest. Feminists taught women that they can and should be like men and sleep around like them, but do females really …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:39 PM
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>So it’s the social environment! Makes sense! Gah, hate t You should be happy about it. Because girls focus on many different things, men have so many opportunities and different ways to improve themselves. They can improve their social standing, wealth, fitness, confidence, etc.. It's much more limiting for girls, since we are mostly attracted to physical appearance, they are stuck with having to improve their looks which isn't easy. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:18 PM
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>How do some guys get laid or dates without having to make much effort or doing anything special? They do something special, you just don't see it. You're focusing on outer game like going to the gym, while the real magic is inner game, how you feel about yourself. Your confidence, charisma, sense of humor, the way you flirt and carry yourself, play a huge role. Girls have much more social awareness and can sense that in you. -B
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:13 PM
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>Men cannot talk to women the same way they talk to men, it is bad advice to tell men to treat women like they would their guy friends. Of course you wouldn't talk to women the same way that you talk to men.. the question is .. why in the world would you want to? Do you flirt with your male friends, tell them that they've been a bad boy and are going to be punished when they get home when they do something stupid? hahaha... Talking to girls is a lot more fun! As an aside, once girls know that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:23 PM
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> I think any man envies women when it comes to tinder, dating, sexuality, sex work, society and so on. As a man, I don't envy women in any way, and I thank my lucky stars that I was born a male. Also, in many ways, its easier to date for us, than for females. Consider a few points: 1) Ability to improve is easier As males, we are 99% visual and are attracted to girls based on looks alone. It is very difficult for a girl to make herself more physically attractive, there's only so much that makeu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:49 AM
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That's just wrong dude. But it feels oh SOOOO right :) :) :) But seriously dude, I'm on here to give back and help younger guys get better with girls, not to debate morality.. I already get judged by girl's parents, friends, random people like doctors and dentists who think I'm their father instead of their boyfriend... and if I'm okay with all of that.. do you think I give a shit about a random internet troll telling me that its wrong???? hahahahahaha -B
/r/seduction09/08/22 08:42 PM
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Last lady of four years decided she wanted kids the moment she hit 29. You should be doing things on YOUR schedule/timeline not hers And I got fixed a while ago ..so you weren't really compatible with her anyway.. she wanted kids at some point, you never wanted them -B
/r/seduction09/08/22 08:38 PM
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I might be interested in things becoming more serious and developing into a relationship in the future 1) As a guy in my 40's sleeping with 20 yr olds, I can tell you that NONE of them initially want to be serious. But after spending enough time, they push for a relationship, push for monogamy, push to move in, tell me they love me, etc.... But this is after months and months into the relationship. 2) My attitude is that while I initially chase to have sex, after we have sex two or three times..…
/r/seduction09/08/22 05:34 AM
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Found the capitulating male feminist Haha Yes! There's always at least one around... The sad thing is that it usually takes them a few years to realize that giving up their masculinity and becoming a white knight doesn't build any attraction whatsoever, and in fact while girls appear to appreciate all of these kind gestures to their face, they are usually laughing at them behind their back. -B
/r/seduction08/08/22 05:38 AM
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she started saying how her (insert name of person who does nails) made them too long but she didn’t want to re do them because they were so nice You: Well, long nails could be useful in some situations <wink or laugh> ​ Now my question is this - what the fuck does this indicate if anything? Is it a conversation women only have with guys they MAY want something with and are giving them something to talk about, or is this a “gay best friend” talk She is most likely just trying to make conversation…
/r/seduction08/08/22 05:16 AM
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What can you say to compliment women's Boobs while making out I almost never compliment a girls boobs or butt or anything overtly sexual, because you don't want to treat them like a piece of meat. After doing her at least a few times, I tell her how I feel close to her, or in general how she makes me feel while we are having sex. The only exception is that if the girl is self conscious or low self esteem regarding anything physical, then I will make a comment on it during making out or sex to re…
/r/seduction08/08/22 04:53 AM
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How to stop putting women on a pedestal? What worked for me was realizing and really FEELING that I had more value than they do. How is that possible, when girls are getting hit on every second on tinder, real life, etc. ? Yes, guys are thirsty and will hit on girls not because they see any value in them, but they just want to have sex, and if they can't have it with a girl, they will have it with a blow up doll, or a vacuum cleaner or whatever... Girls know they can go to a bar or anywhere and …
/r/seduction07/08/22 06:28 AM
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Why does it always come down to the gym? Not only does it make you more attractive, but its a signal that you're not lazy, that you can follow a routine, that you can be successful at something, that you have discipline. but i dont want to not date or approach women during this time. So what I should do? Who said you had to wait? Approach now and think of it as practice -B
/r/seduction07/08/22 06:03 AM
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. The first date was a lot of fun, trying to setup a second date but idt it's looking good so it's whatever. I'm not gonna chase her to that extent if energy isn't really matched. I always chase until I sleep with her once or twice.. then I notice they do the chasing from then on.. my attitude is that after sex, I'm the one doing them a favor by keeping it going.. whether its for a week or the next 6 months.. Who cares if the energy isn't matched? If you've already been on a few dates, its almos…
/r/seduction07/08/22 05:57 AM
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my wife would make it very clear just how unpleased she was with having to carry the load for both of us, something I did for years and years while she pursued her degree. It got to a point where my stomach would cramp up when I would hear her car pull up because I knew that as soon as she walked in and saw me sitting on the couch, she would already have that look of disgust or something all over her face and we were always maybe 3 words away from an argument. The ironic thing here is that if yo…
/r/seduction07/08/22 05:48 AM
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if you found a way to make this disposition work for you? Yes.. it's basically the James Bond style -B
/r/seduction07/08/22 05:33 AM
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many girls tell me that they're screening me right now to see how good of a guy I am. That's strange, I'm curious what the context is leading up to this, for girls to be so blunt and direct. Sometimes girls will mention subtle things that are important to them.. I usually in a joking way tell them its not going to work because I'm the opposite of that and exaggerate the point. Her: Personal Hygiene is important to me Me: Uh oh... so is it going to be a problem that I only shower once per year? I…
/r/seduction07/08/22 05:30 AM
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Why do some women tend to post IG stories of them at a fancy place or restaurant but don’t show the guy they’re with? Just something I was curious about. I'm a guy in my 40's sleeping with 20 yr olds.. guess how many of them have shared a picture of us in fancy restaurants or anywhere else together? Very close to zero... A lot of them actually want me to use their phone to take a pic of them posing, which assures I won't be in the pic... but guess what? After they swallow a big load of cum later…
/r/seduction07/08/22 05:11 AM
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"Oh wait do you think you're special? ;)" Best response, I love it ! -B
/r/seduction23/06/22 09:31 PM
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We have been talking on and off but it feels like she’s always busy and replies to my texts after a hour or two. Her replies aren’t dry when she does reply but I can’t tell why she takes so long to reply no matter what time of day. Should I just ghost her and move on? No, you should continue to text her just like everyone else in the rotation, you should schedule to meet up with her, and escalate. After you sleep with her, you can play her games and take forever to reply, always be busy, etc. I'…
/r/seduction17/06/22 03:10 AM
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The old school PUA books said 'Go sleep with 10 other girls and see if you still think this is the best girl for you' There were a few times where I did think that, I got dumped, I fell hard, and out of spite I went out and tried to have other relations with the intent that I would prove this quote wrong... Each time, I never made it 10 girls... after about 2 or 3 girls into the challenge, I was happy that we broke up and I had these new experiences that I never would have had otherwise. -B
/r/seduction17/06/22 02:50 AM
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I got a phone number from someone at work. Dating people at work is a bad idea because of the potential carnage that her and her friends will bring after you breakup ​ But then she wanted to bring a friend. At first I thought she was kinda shy and maybe she wanted to have someone with her, to make her feel comfortable. Instead of guessing, why didn't you ask why she wanted to bring a friend? ​ Is chance to save this or should I move on and learn from it? You can find out why she has the need to …
/r/seduction17/06/22 02:43 AM
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The above should be the top answer, the KEY is slow but steady physical escalation and reading queues to make sure that they are happy and okay. I've never asked either, and girls have on several occasions, when discussing their previous experiences, have told me how completely un-attractive and off putting it is when guys ask them for consent. Unless you're already dating a girl for months and she is 'planning' on making it out to be some special night where she finally sleeps with you... by an…
/r/seduction01/06/22 12:09 AM
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Most everyone here is going to say to use a condom.. because that's the *safe* thing to say... they don't know you and don't know your risk tolerance. However, I think, like in everything in life, you should understand risk/reward, and make your own decision. The best stats that we have say that there is a 0.05% to 0.1% chance to get HIV from an infected female if you are male (per sexual act). It is low, but it is not 0. That's about 1 in a thousand chance, to about one in two thousand chance. …
/r/seduction26/05/22 01:05 AM
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How exactly do you take the game ahead with a girl who's not all nice & sweet, & has an attitude. Usually, I playfully tell them that's its cute that they have an attitude, but that they are getting a bare bottom spanking when we get home. -B
/r/seduction29/04/22 05:15 AM
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would that be any less unproductive or dangerous if women who've had bad experiences with men did it? Yes, because with men, it gets reported, debated and counter groups form to protest against it. When women do it, it goes unchecked. Just imagine if you went on FDS, copied the text, changed genders around, and tried to re-create the same thing in reddit? it Would be flagged and banned fairly quickly... . -B
/r/seduction27/04/22 07:24 PM
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really want to learn how to get close to a specific guy who doesn't look at us, Be careful what you wish for.. The problem with these types of guys are that if they are out of your league, they will still initiate and sleep with you.. but you will eventually find out that there are either other girls in the mix or as soon as a better one pops up, you are history... My point is that it won't be hard to attract them.. but it will be much harder to keep them.. -B
/r/seduction27/04/22 07:14 PM
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There are at least 3 reasons why a sub like that wouldn't work well for women 1) Females look for a lot of different things in guys, ranging from looks to confidence, humor, social status, wealth, strength, etc... so guys can improve in a lot of different ways.. unfortunately, guys are very visual and they mostly look for physical appearance, so the discussion would be fairly shallow.. on how women can improve their looks 2) Women would find the advice insulting, especially coming from men 3) Mo…
/r/seduction27/04/22 07:06 PM
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I have cold approached around 50 to 60 girls around the college campus Congratulations!!! You already have more confidence and willingness to success than most people. she told me that it doesn’t matter what comes out my mouth if I don’t look the part The better you look, obviously the more numbers you will close.... not just weight, but clothes, hairstyle, etc... luckily girls are very forgiving.... However, what is equally important to 'what comes out of your mouth', is HOW you deliver it. Are…
/r/seduction27/04/22 03:27 AM
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and I see women say James Bond is a toxic narcissistic misogynist Yes, but they will still be attracted to him and sleep with him, while they complain about what an asshole he is to all of her girlfriends haha -B
/r/seduction22/04/22 06:01 AM
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how do you make your conversations less dry? You need to become a good story teller. You can say 'I went mountain biking yesterday', or you can say 'I love going bike riding before work, yesterday I got up early in the morning, the sun was just coming up out of the horizon, the air was nice and crisp... and I headed through the usual trail, it must have rained the just before because it was bit slippery .. but it had that great ..right after the rain smell.... " -B
/r/seduction22/04/22 03:58 AM
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No matter how hard I try I can't seem to fix my inner game. The sole fact that I have to learn game as a man makes me angry as fuck I have a huge feeling of entitlement. People who have struggled with similiar issues, how did you fix them? Where should I start? ​ 1) You need to change your attitude. You're not entitled to anything in this world. We all start off at different places, try to be happy with what you have, things can be a lot worse. There are about a billion people on earth that live…
/r/seduction21/04/22 11:27 PM
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Men treat women like a collection of moist holes and women treat men like waking atms Haha!!!! Great summary :) I have a friend whose theory on women is that there are only two types... OAC and COD... 'On Approved Credit' means they date you, marry you, then you support them for life or they divorce you and take 50% of your wealth... 'Cash On Delivery' are the sugar babies and prostitutes. -B
/r/seduction21/04/22 10:38 PM
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Sites will also punish you for overusing the pay-to-play features (sucked in suckers!) and swiping right too much. You need around a 30%-right to 70%-left ratio. Great advice! One workaround to the swipe-ratio problem is constantly changing settings. Swipe right 100 times, then filter to only show women who are older than you want to date, and swipe left 100 times. -B
/r/seduction19/04/22 10:26 PM
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The first step to get over it is to identify the 'how and why' It's probably something to do with your childhood.. like your parents not giving you enough praise or showing affection, or making you feel like nothing that you did was ever good enough for them, etc... -B
/r/seduction19/04/22 12:43 AM
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"Leave me alone, what do you want from me?" and moves to her girlfriends who stare at you judgingly, as if you were a creep trying to rape her. Then on the toilet they probably laugh about you. Now this often leaves the guy feeling terrible/guilty or angry, The way I deal with it is that I laugh at her.. like she's a little kid crying or yelling about something... I also believe I have more value. I'm going to fuck a hot girl whether its her or someone else.. at this point, it's not going to cha…
/r/seduction18/04/22 10:13 PM
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Sounds like u don’t actually have any game 🤣
/r/seduction18/04/22 09:58 PM
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"Game" isn't one book or ideology, most of the books I read on inner game teach you that you ARE good enough, and try to take you to a the place of instilling that you have a lot of value... so I'm not sure where this is coming from.. Second, pickup/game is just self help ... like any other books that will tell you if want to be a better weight lifter or swimmer, or baseball player, you need to improve a specific skillset and then these guides illustrate the specific set of steps that you need t…
/r/seduction18/04/22 09:51 PM
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neither of us really enjoyed it. She said she wasn't really aroused that way by me anymore. Out of curiosity, did you wait a long time texting/calling before meeting up for the first time? The longer you do this, usually the worse it is, because you both build a mental image of the other person in your head that always turns out different than real life. -B
/r/seduction18/04/22 09:30 PM
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plus texting in general is a bitch. Yes it is!! I have a lot of canned material for many texts in the beginning... the same interesting things keep happening to me over and over haha... :) ​ You won't like every girl that shows interest back. It's good not to assume that if it goes well with a girl after an approach (good reaction), you'll automatically want to even date/fuck them. So true, but I don't discard these girls, I use them for practice, by experimenting telling them things that are ve…
/r/seduction18/04/22 04:34 PM
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I can tell you that all the guys making 100 approaches a night might get lucky here and there but none of them have a steady harem otherwise they would be too busy fucking as opposed to annoying a 100 women a night. Haha.. very true... once I got better at pickup, I found it was tough to strike a balance between the fun of new girls vs the girls you already have that are always calling/texting to meet up... -B
/r/seduction18/04/22 04:27 PM
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the last one lasted 7 years, until last year. there is currently a psychological void in me that I no longer know how to talk to a woman This is completely normal. Seven years is a long time to not hunt and longer than many marriages. Its like not speaking a second language for that amount of time and then trying to be fluent in it again. After my last marriage, approaching girls felt very stiff and awkward, I lost my confidence in not worrying how they would react, everything felt forced and un…
/r/seduction16/04/22 05:52 AM
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Is it a bad idea to give women an "easy out" if they have an excuse for not going on a date? Something along the lines of (after they give an excuse) "Well I had a good time with you, so let me know when you're available again. If you're not interested, thats okay too." It's a bad idea for the following reasons: 1) You are sub-communicating lack of confidence.. because from a seduction point of view, your attitude should be that she DOES want to see you unless she explicitly told you otherwise, …
/r/seduction16/04/22 04:58 AM
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How do you get someone interested in you? It's difficult to dispense tens of thousands of pages of theory into a few sentences in an internet post, however here are two things that would have helped me starting out long ago: Think of your goal as a process that has many individual steps, and focus on each step, instead of just the end. In order to sleep with a girl, you need to approach, have a conversation, get her number, text/call, go on a date, etc... Think of each step as a stage and try to…
/r/seduction14/04/22 04:37 PM
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Limiting belief that nobody has ever been into me What tips or tricks do you guys suggest I do to combat this? It's rather depressing when I start to think like it First tip: Stop caring what girls think. I'm fairly certain that when I approach any girl, they have exactly 0.0% interest in me.. but I don't really care.. it's my job as a seducer.. performer.. whatever.. to get them *into me* Second tip: Whether they are into you or not is not cast in stone.. its very fluid and can change by them b…
/r/seduction14/04/22 03:26 AM
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First, you're not alone. I'm a guy in my 40's dating 20yr old girls, and SO MANY of them have told me that young guys today basically just want you to go over to their house, smoke and have sex. No going on a date, no spending money, no EFFORT at all. Just by doing things that I consider normal behavior, like planning a creative date, I'm already way ahead of the pack. Second, occasionally I used to ask girls whom I've already slept with show me their tinder account... we would sit together and …
/r/seduction13/04/22 12:44 AM
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It is extremely unlikely that you caught anything, especially since she was very clear about saying she was clean. I agree, there is a fairly low probability that she was lying. Even if the girl is not clean, its not guaranteed that you will catch what she has. Recent statistics say that if a girl is HIV positive, you have a 0.05% - 0.1% chance of getting it per sexual act, HSV2 is 1.5 times per 10,000 acts. Some of the other ones are higher like clamydia 4.5% and syphlys is over 50%, but these …
/r/seduction12/04/22 07:00 PM
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Is it even possible to not feel a little bit desperate or nervous around women you’re into? To be just completely indifferent seems a little impossible. Those aren't the only 2 options. When you're playing a video game, you can feel excited and happy, and you want to win, but you don't feel desperate and nervous about losing. If you crash, you just hit reset and start again, same as in approaching. Long term, no amount of reading is going to cure you of this. You need to have enough approaches, …
/r/seduction12/04/22 06:39 PM
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A 40 year old guy generally isn't gonna have the energy to put with a 20 year old who wants to stay up until 2 am, drink like crazy, brunch, sleep 4 hours a night, and be dramatic It definitely takes a lot of energy, and you also have to learn the lingo, music tastes, and everything else of the 20yr old crowd... not to mention handling issues with both your friends and theirs, etc. But I'll tell you, if you've already gone through a marriage or two and just want to have fun, its all worth it whe…
/r/seduction12/04/22 06:29 PM
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it’s almost laughable how many people are claiming to be James Bond and just not give a shit at all about attention or rejection So how did you do it? A few things 1) Once you have had enough experiences and slept with enough girls, you will realize that this one particular girl that you're about to approach, or sleep with, or develop feelings for.. or whatever.. is NOT better than the whole mix of girls that you will experience afterwards. 2) I may be full of myself, and I don't really care, bu…
/r/seduction12/04/22 12:03 AM
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The more experience you have with women, the more jaded you become and the more you realize just how much the game is rigged. I don't want to rehash a comment I made earlier (https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/rmksw5/i_have_no_options/hpnff4m/?context=3 ) but in many ways, its very difficult for girls. -B
/r/seduction06/04/22 11:22 PM
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Its difficult to explain without mentioning specifics whether on a material, or emotional level or otherwise, but basically these things set you up to have fights or *drama* that you can then escalate the relationship from. You playfully challenge them on some things, and start to follow rules on other things but only to a point, and then stop. It's a bit like push/pull taken to the next level and created from situations that they imposed on you, rather than ones you had to create. -B
/r/seduction06/04/22 11:09 PM
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I feel like if you have your shit together it's probably really easy to get a women 30+. They don't really have any standards anymore besides ~80-100k salary. Haha!!! Yes I was going to mention this but you beat me to it. They've been planning their future for 20yrs with Mr. X, their friends are married, biological clock is ticking, pressure from family.. etc... -B
/r/seduction06/04/22 10:37 PM
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definitely impose too many rules and are high maintenance Flip the script and use these things to your advantage. -B
/r/seduction06/04/22 10:33 PM
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The average age difference in the west is also 2-3 years Who cares. Do you aspire to be average? Its definitely a lot harder in many ways to date girls in their early 20's (i.e. in initially be willing to talk to me, and to escalate to something else), but once I get them up to a certain level of comfort, its easier to have them fall madly in love with me and do anything I want with them.... just because of sheer practice and I know mostly how they will react to everything... but I will say its …
/r/seduction06/04/22 10:26 PM
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How do you manage to dodge shit test First of all, you don't dodge them. You embrace them. This is great, it means the girl cares enough or is interested enough to test you to see whether you are a man or mouse Regarding response... its all in the vibe... you can say something playful, or double down, or clever or pretend to be innocent.. these are stepping stones to the responses she will then give and further the rest of the conversation..... *You don't love me anymore... When did you ever thi…
/r/seduction06/04/22 10:09 PM
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The thing is, people tell me I'm wrong for wanting to flirt and go out with girls so much younger than me. Haha.... I'm in my 40's and just finished celebrating one of my gf's birthdays, she just turned 21, and I've been sleeping with her since she was 19. I can tell you that most of the time the people around you are very jealous. I remember when my gf went to the dentist a year ago, I was waiting for her in the waiting room, and she called for me to come back in the room with the dentist becau…
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:13 AM
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Interestingly, this is how a lot of girls test your dominance and communicate that they want you to touch them This is why I stopped giving a shit about women and their opinions on anything Haha..Yes, I agree! and couldn't have said it better myself... This reminds me when girls used to tell me that they wouldn't have sex on the first date...hahahaha... But I will add one thing to your excellent post. You MUST have the social awareness to accurately determine whether a girl is giving you a stand…
/r/seduction30/03/22 03:37 AM
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I used to have severe oneitis I got on Tinder, went on many dates, and slept with a couple of women. What I find now is that after meeting every new woman, my attraction to them gradually decreases. Is this a good or a bad thing? It's better than oneitis.. I can guarantee you that! ​ Then I find myself constantly looking for someone new and exciting. Why is this a problem? Isn't the thrill of the hunt fun? -B
/r/seduction30/03/22 03:06 AM
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Pickup over time in my own case lead to not actually feeling happy or fulfilled even after having success First, even in relationships now, it's hard for us to actually let go of this mindset when we're constantly scanning every girl on the street, which makes us anxious. we are unable to just walk down the street enjoying the sun, the present moment, because we always obsess about the girls around Have someone else experienced this too? This seems to be a symptom of not learning inner game, not…
/r/seduction30/03/22 02:58 AM
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Extra: Paint , I love it. Can do it alone or in groups , and while listening to music, nature, or silence. YES! I do this as a surprise on dates, bring acrylic paint set, some cheap canvases from dollar stores, and go to a nice park. Sometimes, I also bring a cheese tray with crackers, fruit tray, and some wine. They really enjoy this and it turns into a memorable experience for them. -B
/r/seduction20/03/22 06:43 AM
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Girl says “she has to think about it” when i asked for her number 1) I think its better if you establish a premise for the number, so that the number isn't the 'thing', it's just logistics to get to the thing... "Want to see the new Batman movie tomorrow?" "Great, I'll text you when I'm leaving, what's your number?" 2) Even though technically a 'I'll think about it' is a 'NO', the key is.... its a no 'right now', because you haven't established enough attraction, comfort, or something else.... o…
/r/seduction09/03/22 06:09 AM
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Personnelly, i get dont why guys like to get theirs ass eaten by girls 1) It physically feels good.. especially when I'm stroking my cock 2) Mentally, I USED to feel a bit of a bonding experience with girls, because they usually haven't done this before with anyone, so even though they fucked a lot of guys, I felt that she shared something special with me... i.e. I took her 'ass licking' virginity ...... and I felt comfort knowing that they were doing something just to make me happy that probabl…
/r/seduction09/03/22 05:38 AM
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I’m afraid of approaching and getting rejected Some Thoughts 1) What specifically are you fearful of? Are you scared she will laugh at you? That your friends will see the rejection and make fun of you?? What is the issue? Most of the time, it is uncomfortable for a girl to issue a rejection, so it will be done as gently as possible.. they want to avoid confrontation.. sometimes they are even flattered by it... 2) Fear is good, it means that you are alive, that you care.. that this isn't boring o…
/r/seduction28/02/22 08:19 AM
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I'm going to a speed dating event tomorrow, Great, these are lots of fun when you are starting out.. it forces you into 20 conversations with new girls... Really good way to get out of your shell and actually talk to people what kind of conversations should I have? Most of the guys will ask girls 'where are you from', 'what do you do for work' ...etc... the same tired old questions they ask at bars... be different.. stand out.. ask 'what are you passionate about?' 'what's on your bucket list', '…
/r/seduction18/02/22 04:31 AM
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I’ve had 3 before but it is super exhausting, you hit diminishing returns fast. Scheduling is a bitch. Also it kills your pipeline of new girls bc no time. I think 2 is the sweet spot YES THIS!!! I try to rotate between 2-4 and there's always scheduling conflicts and opportunity costs after 2... Do you want a threesome with the girl you've been with for 4 months? ... or a second date with a new hotter girl that you haven't slept with yet? Both want to see you on the same night.. ugh... -B
/r/seduction14/01/22 06:51 AM
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I've been studying game for years now, understanding nuance after nuance. I think I studied more game than most game guys by now as I obsessed over it Sounds like 'paralysis by analysis '... you need to go and practice what you learned instead of trying to read more... ​ What if game never worked all along, guys?? Then I would be a 40yr old virgin instead of rotating hot 20 year olds... ​ I only hit on my personal 9's and 10's. I ignore even 8's. Again, you need practice. Start with the 8's, get…
/r/seduction14/01/22 06:38 AM
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How do you Mansluts navigate these waters? When a girl wants more out of the relationship than I want to give, then I always sexually escalate. Slowly, they become part of my world of sexual depravity. You want to be my gf? Well.. you have to start by doing roleplay (cheerleader/nun/got caught stealing, etc..) then anal....then threesomes, then rimjobs, then ATM, then golden showers.. then we video tape all this stuff, then we video tape it outdoors...... etc.. whatever you're into... just keep …
/r/seduction06/01/22 03:22 AM
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If you're going to have a kid with her, and you are going to quit your job.. this is the one situation that it makes sense to get married. If she changes her mind later and decides that its not for her (case studies show that when the male becomes the stay at home dad, 90% separation/divorce occurs in one year), then you will be protected through child support and alimony. As a side note, the more important question is not whether she will still love you, but whether that is a situation that you…
/r/seduction06/01/22 03:03 AM
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Being in your 40s and banging girls in their 20s is the dream life. Thanks! Yes, its a lot of fun, I won't lie Please tell me you are also bald Haha.. no.. but I'm starting to get grey hairs in my beard and have to color it all the time.. -B
/r/seduction28/12/21 07:29 AM
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I've borrowed females friends tinders to mess around I have as well, sometimes after I sleep with a girl we go through her tinder together and I ask her why she chose me over some of the other guys she matched with... the most enlightening.. or craziest thing I've heard time and time again.. is that if the guy is *too* good looking, the girls assume that he's just a fuckboy and move on... and they have literally hundreds of likes while most guys struggle to get even 5 Yes, this is true, but that…
/r/seduction28/12/21 07:20 AM
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it gets worst when i remind myself that they on the other hand likely have an army of options. They have much fewer options than you realize. Did you ever stop and think why 50% of the bar patrons or online dating app members are female? If they could find boyfriends that quick, they would have already, and it would be 99.9% guys. The biggest mistake men make is thinking that girls want the same things as guys do. First.. a *Disclaimer*... this is an internet post, not a book that covers every p…
/r/seduction23/12/21 05:37 AM
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Yes, you beat me to it. Getting her number puts you in control. Girls hardly ever initiate anything. -B
/r/seduction23/12/21 05:09 AM
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Does That Mean She's Seeing Another Guy/Guys Or No? It's an irrelevant question. There's always going to be other guys swirling around work, home and school. You should be focusing on YOUR relationship with her, not hers and other guys. You grow and cement your relationship to the point that no other guys can compete or come close to the bond you have with her. A Gingerbread House On Christmas Eve With Me, And Said She's Hanging Out With A Friend On Christmas Day. She's Also Been Showing Signs O…
/r/seduction23/12/21 05:08 AM
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Yup, you hit the nail on the head. 90% of the success of anything is just getting out there and doing it.. whether its girls, or business, or anything else.. -B
/r/seduction23/12/21 05:03 AM
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but this just upset me to be honest as I felt she was just making me uncomfertable and then making me feel bad for being uncomfertable She shouldn't be able to control your feelings, especially not on a first date, and not for petty things. I dont think it was a shit test We can debate semantics, but my point is that you should try to Leverage anything that girls throw at you, and use it further your agenda, not get caught up in the drama of hers, and don't let it throw you off balance by being …
/r/seduction19/12/21 04:41 AM
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Chances of banging if she says "we're not having sex": 90% Haha..... this is so true (if you can navigate through the minefield) -B
/r/seduction18/12/21 05:20 AM
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she would kill the mood by making a comment and critising me/my game A shit test by any other name (or any other context) is still just a shit test.. You should have responded by looking deep in her eyes, in a flirty way and saying 'oh yeah? what would you do differently? Show me' and smile.. she will either show you and its game on, or she does nothing or further criticism.. in which case you call her out on this in a playful way and say 'naughty girl, no game, just a tease', and start to spank…
/r/seduction18/12/21 05:05 AM
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Excellent advice dude, especially about the porn! When I was married, I used to watch porn a lot and after a decade, it become very difficult to get excited with real sex.. I was fantasizing various porn scenes in my head while having sex..even after getting divorced the first time.. .. same problem... I had to to this to maintain any interest, to stay hard and cum. it wasn't until 2yrs passed and I stopped cold turkey with watching that I completely recovered. Many guys really don't know the lo…
/r/seduction06/12/21 07:21 AM
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Seems like a lot of effort and convincing It depends. When I'm trying to add another girl to the mix, I'm usually in contact with 3 or 5 at once, because that will filter to one.. and I try to text them the same jokes, memes, what I'm doing.. etc.. to all of them.. so it's not much more effort to text one more person the same things... for me, this is less effort than just harshly dropping her immediately, because I'll have to cold approach another 20 girls to get another number to just be in th…
/r/seduction06/12/21 07:06 AM
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do you at first have to pretend to be her friend NO! This isn't the main approach that you would use, you would be setting yourself up to climb over a hurdle later..... however as with all pickup, there's exceptions to every rule.. its all about context and logistics .. for example.. if she's in a relationship already, then your move would be to establish communication and wait/ lightly flirt.. if you're in your 40's and she's in her 20's, then you have to establish trust first and several other…
/r/seduction05/12/21 08:07 PM
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What is the goal here? So you can appear unfazed by the rejection? The better approach is to see whether this can be saved. You either dropped in priority because something else came up in her life, or she all of a sudden had second thoughts because there wasn't enough comfort built. Either way, You just continue to engage.. DON'T ask her what happened, or why she's sorry, or tell her again that its okay.. just ignore it and pretend it never happened... pretend the whole flake never happened.. w…
/r/seduction05/12/21 07:57 PM
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When I got divorced the second time, I was really out of my game, it took me about a year of practice and sleeping with about 8 girls to really get back into the swing of things and be balanced again.. Bars are okay, but personally I like day game better, like coffee shops. Online is okay if you look great or enhance your photos a lot, and have a lot of time on your hands.. After all these years, one thing that I learned is that its like sales... it's a numbers game.. it starts with how many app…
/r/seduction02/12/21 07:00 AM
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Wow, as usual, I see most of the comments devolves into something you would find in /r/morality , not /r/seduction. The truth is, of course...men have been lying to women and vice-versa since the beginning of time, and the poster here was asking whether it would work, not whether it is ethical.... :( So let me give you different take on this.... 1) NO, it wouldn't work, for the simple reason that it already doesn't work for the real male feminists that actually believe it. I have observed countl…
/r/seduction24/11/21 04:56 AM
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I think these guys are saying that just because it's what they think girls like to hear. How common is this?? Its extremely common, guys as a whole have less social skills than women and don't really understand that this is a negative behavior. Personally, I *almost NEVER compliment a woman's looks. The rationale is that any decent girl will get LOTS of guys telling her that she is hot or has nice tits or ass or face or whatever.. and 1) I don't want to be like everyone else 2) I assume that gir…
/r/seduction17/11/21 06:22 AM
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I felt weird about the whole thing and it definitely gave me some reaction. Dude, I'm a guy in my 40's and one of the girls I'm dating is a hot girl in her early 20's with a skinny waist and Double D's . Do you know what happens EVERY TIME I'm in a bar.. and pretty much everywhere? She's always getting hit on.. and she's naïve and friendly, and talks back to many people.. especially if its a group.. but I'm always relaxed.. I LIKE that she has attention, it means I picked something that others w…
/r/seduction17/11/21 06:03 AM
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I should text her something like "hope you're having a good week" but this has NEVER been a good move for me personally You are entitled to do this because you already slept with her.. so you've built a bit of a foundation. However, once she replies, and gives you her casual answer of 'its going okay', you should then DHV with a cool story of something that happened to you this week or something interesting you are doing.. etc.. to at least confirm a time for Thursday night saying something alon…
/r/seduction16/11/21 11:54 PM
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what do you consider a good way to learn game? If you had a chance to give some advice to someone who is starting, what would you say it’s the best way to start and then grow? Read books and watch videos, but don't fall into the trap of 'paralysis by analysis', where you have to keep reading one more thing before you feel that you complete the puzzle and can start actually picking up girls. Understand that pickup is a process of selecting girls at different venues and mediums, approaching, initi…
/r/seduction28/10/21 04:23 AM
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As others have commented, no, not for this, but you may have a bigger issue... You are seeking validation from the group, and at such an extreme level that you're worried that they might think that you're too nice... is the allegation that a group *might* think that you're too nice more important than extending common courtesy to someone? If so, that's a problem... not only because your biased conclusions might be wrong (for example the group might think it is sweet and you may be elevated in st…
/r/seduction28/10/21 03:59 AM
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it really shouldn't be that hard to go out to bars or parties on weekends and bring home a girl I haven't seen many people that could pickup like that with extreme consistency.. Also, once you fuck 5 or 10 girls in a few weeks, you would have many (or at least some) that you yourself would want to come back for, and you wouldn't have time to continue one night stands all of the time while juggling all of the other growing plates of girls. Even the PUA guys all get girlfriends.. I really don't se…
/r/seduction26/10/21 07:17 PM
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Both girls told "I mean, I wouldn't say no" Good lord! What a great situation!!! At that point, I would have got them close to me, and started kissing each one. You REALLY missed a great opportunity. the girls are on the shy side, and are rather inexperienced, so no one really has initiated for it to happen Whether its threesomes or twosomes, girls generally don't initiate anything... ever. If you don't know this, maybe you're not ready for a threesome, but I would push through it anyways, it wi…
/r/seduction26/10/21 06:54 PM
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He warned me this life was empty, that these girls don't really care about you. And it's true. It's depressing. You are conflating learning the game with lifestyle, these two are not the same. Learning game provides you with the ability to choose the lifestyle that you seek with girls, it doesn't command that you constantly have one night stands, it just affords you the ability to do so if you choose. This would be like complaining that if you ever won the lottery, you would just buy useless thi…
/r/seduction24/10/21 10:31 PM
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I lost my flirting skills Not to be mean, but in all likelihood, you never had any to begin with. At 16, you don't need any, all you need is sufficient confidence to approach and fumble your way through some moves. The great thing is that unlike many late bloomers, you had the confidence to do this, and you were successful for two years, congrats! You can build upon your previous success. So what do you think I should do ? I'm not funny anymore and don't understand anything about this game anymo…
/r/seduction24/10/21 09:45 PM
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my texting game is pretty shit. I hate texting in general. Texting is a tool. Today's younger girls, especially early 20's love texting, and are usually on snapchat, twitter, instagram, facebook, etc... In fact many of the are shy and are anxious to actually talk on the phone... Getting good at texting will significantly improve your close rate for sex. wtf do you guys do? In general.. most of the things like DHV, flirting, comfort building, etc.. can all be done through text For example, if I'm…
/r/seduction19/10/21 02:57 AM
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The short explanation is that they will be much more difficult.. the long explanation, if you're interested, is 'why' that is the case -B
/r/seduction11/10/21 07:04 PM
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May I ask why?
/r/seduction11/10/21 06:54 PM
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But I specifically want to hook up with the kinds of women on r/seduction. LOL, you don't want to hook up with the women on here :) -B
/r/seduction11/10/21 06:52 PM
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Should I message her this week? She initates most of our messages I'd say 80% and I initiate 20%. But I also plan all the dates. Or should I just let the week go by let her miss me/get a bit anxious thinking of me and see if she reaches out to me yet again before the date? You have been seeing her for 6 months.. good texting ratio.. don't change anything... The problem is your frame. You like her a lot more than she likes you. First rule of PUA, you can NEVER care more about her than she does fo…
/r/seduction06/10/21 05:13 AM
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How much does having a more expensive car matter to women? Reposting my answer from before..... A few factors: It depends on whether they see you as the alpha guy they just met and are going to fuck, or the beta provider guy they are gonna get married and be taken care of with.... It depends on your age, and the age of the girl you're dating.. If you're both 16, you can show up in almost anything.. it beats taking the bus or getting your parents to drive you somewhere... If you're both in your l…
/r/seduction11/09/21 07:05 PM
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“Wait a min, why haven’t I requested pictures from her and me sending her photos🤷🏽‍♀️”. How would you respond and what do you think of this? I would say, 'Yes that a good idea. Let's do a video chat. Are you free tomorrow morning between 10 and 2?' -B
/r/seduction11/09/21 06:31 PM
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You should be happy dude! 1) You saved cash from not having to go on a dinner date with a girl you are already fucking 2) You should be framing the situation as 'she needs to make it up to you' by not being available today.... and she will :) 3) If you have more than one girl on the go... which you always should.. you would invite another one in her place.. tell her you are surprising her... I've done this several times and it works great.. girls flake all the time and it shouldn't stop your fun…
/r/seduction06/09/21 12:37 AM
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Horoscope/ zodiac sign YES! You beat me to it... Getting her opinion on anything related to love/sex and especially RELATIONSHIPS is also great. -B
/r/seduction06/09/21 12:28 AM
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I notice he actually compliments women often as an opener. You can compliment her style, something unique about her, etc.. just DON'T compliment her looks.. as every guy does this, she is sick of this, and she wants to feel like more than a piece of meat to you.. The exception to this rule is fat, ugly and old girls.. basically girls that have been passed over and rarely if ever receive any compliments.. those girls are perfect to compliment on their looks, they will be flattered.. and will welc…
/r/seduction06/09/21 12:24 AM
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Sleeping with a girl is a process, which starts with 1) initiating a conversation 2) escalating conversation by building comfort and attraction 3) Getting a phone number 4) Texting with DHV, more comfort and attraction building 5) Setting up a date 6) Going on the date, escalating to physical touch such as holding hands, hugging, kissing ,etc.. 7) Escalating to further arousal and sex... In order to help you with your 'rejection', you need to specify what part of the process is going well for yo…
/r/seduction06/09/21 12:20 AM
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The most surefire way to botch a new relationship is by becoming too overly invested in it prior to the other person matching your investment. Excellent advice!! ..and I would expand this to state that you should NEVER be more invested than the girl at ANY stage of the relationship.. initial meeting, dating, bf/gf, married, etc... Whenever you are more invested than her, you develop oneitis, and you are the one chasing her, instead of the other way around, and it is game over for you..... especi…
/r/seduction04/09/21 07:58 PM
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What is the true alpha male mindset? For me, the #1 thing was not caring about the outcome... I read this a long time ago in pickup books, and I thought to myself.. how can you not care? You are approaching, escalating..etc.. all because you DO want an outcome.. to have sex with this girl.. The AHA moment came later.... in that you see the world through abundance, not scarcity.. so there are unlimited girls, and while you do care to sleep with a girl.. you don't care about ANY PARTICULAR ONE... …
/r/seduction15/08/21 05:39 AM
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Honestly i find this hard to believe That's cool dude, I don't blame you, sometimes when I wake up, I find it hard to believe it myself... trust me!! .. but I'm not here to show off for validate myself or prove myself to anyone. I was a very nerdy guy who had trouble to even talk to a fast food cashier. The PUA community has completely transformed my social/dating life and I'm on here to give advice and as a way to say thanks for everything that was given to me.... -B
/r/seduction13/08/21 02:14 AM
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So how much sex do you have with these restrictions? I keep a constant rotation of about 2-3 girls at once..... sometimes its 2 when I want to get a lot of work done, sometimes its 4 when I'm in a transition period but this never lasts long because its too exhausting and I can't see them often enough to keep the relationships going... On a weekly basis, I try to have a girl in my bed about 5 out of 7 days, I like to do them more than once per day.. so I would say I have sex about 8 or 9 times pe…
/r/seduction10/08/21 11:41 PM
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How do i avoid false rape/sexual assault/harassment accusations Talk to the girls about her previous relationships. You can learn a lot from that. I had one girl tell me that her last 3 boyfriends raped her. After further discussions, she said that she never gave any indication for them to stop what they were doing, but that she felt uncomfortable and didn't know how to say no. I had another girl tell me that if a guy is drunk, then its not rape. I'm not saying that any girl was or wasn't raped,…
/r/seduction10/08/21 11:09 PM
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as he was taking his phone out of his pocket, he then suddenly said "You know what, I'll just add you another time Did he look at his notifications on his phone before he said that? Maybe there's something he didn't want you to see 🤔 -B
/r/seduction10/08/21 08:17 PM
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Girl I went to get drinks with told me she's not looking for relationship You shouldn't be discussing relationships with a girl you haven't slept with yet. She might not want a relationship, but will change their mind after you spend enough time with them.. or she might not be ready for one at that exact moment... You shouldn't put them in a spot and ask before they are ready...really ever....at some point, they will ask you. Most girls naturally want a relationship, so if you escalate and do 'r…
/r/seduction09/08/21 03:40 AM
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Which beginner course is the best? I have read and watched most of them, over a period of 20yrs. IMHO, if you are only going to pick one, look at old school mystery method. It has the most structure which is what many guys need. The new guides are all watered down. Instead of trying to read all of the books, always thinking that you need a few more pieces of information before you can complete the puzzle and approach girls, I would read one thing, summarize the takeways, go and try to meet girls…
/r/seduction09/08/21 03:13 AM
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whenever I mentioned to girls that I'm a middle eastern refugee, they seemed to get shocked and started treating me differently in a non romantic way So... you're doing something which produces a negative result, and you're asking whether you should keep doing it? From a 'seduction' point of view, NO. From a morality point of view, only you can answer how many things you want to hide and be okay with... Remember, from a seduction point of view, everything you say and do should be done with a spe…
/r/seduction09/08/21 03:03 AM
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You: Your father must be a great farmer Her: Why? You: He sure knows how to grow some nice melons :) -B
/r/seduction06/08/21 06:24 PM
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I’ve heard that it’s hard to have a social life if you’re not in a FRAT. I rather not join a FRAT You can rush them and drop out. I did that three times. They have mixers with sorority girls and its great.. trust me.. You will also surround yourself with guys that will give you some confidence.. never had a girlfriend or even a kiss please help Would really need to know more details in order to help. Did you ever try? If not, then we need to work on your confidence, and fundamentals of approachi…
/r/seduction06/08/21 06:21 PM
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> when you’re talking to a woman, instead of having an organic conversation, your mind is preoccupied trying to remember all the psychological tricks and lines you learned about online. Not really. In practice, you forget 90% of it when you're talking to a girl. It sort just keeps you from falling off the rails and saying something really stupid >if you’re a shy guy who struggles talking to women, please don’t cram your head with useless theory Some of the material is useful in that it speaks ab…
/r/seduction05/08/21 03:23 AM
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asks me a question ''do you masturbate?'' Answer: "Why, are you looking for some tips?" -B
/r/seduction05/08/21 03:08 AM
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I just don't believe that these apps are riddled with high quality men and the ones that are using them are just running through women. It's an assumption though so idk Its not just an assumption. It's been proven with multiple studies involving tens of thousands of profiles. This is basically what happens. Guys swipe right on almost everyone. Girls are very selective, but they tend to pick the same top 5-10% guys on the site. Those guys get all the hits and sleep with all the girls, they almost…
/r/seduction02/08/21 08:12 PM
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Yes, she regrets her own choices, resents you for not saving her from a choice she’d later regret. This is what zero accountability looks like. BINGO!! -B
/r/seduction02/08/21 08:00 PM
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I can get lasik for 3800$ . What's your guys thoughts? Subjectively, I think it would bring me from 8.5 to 9.5. I think you are over valuing a face with no glasses, this is very subjective because glasses can also make you look smart, and the right frames can make you look sophisticated, trendy or fashionable. Glasses also cover crow's eyes a little bit and they become a point of focus away from other imperfections on your face. Lasik might also cause halos around bright lights, have dry eyes, a…
/r/seduction02/08/21 07:56 PM
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I'm so lost as to why members here chat the cliche "just go shoot your shot, bro", without any context. Probably easier than trying to explain the fundamentals of attraction, openers and techniques, inner game, and many other skills necessary to succeed. ​ Like, if the girl is attractive, what makes anyone here think they stand out by being the next guy in line to hit on a girl? You have to make yourself standout by your fashion, physique, and social skills. ​ But of course, almost everyone here…
/r/seduction30/07/21 05:53 PM
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In 80% of the cases I do 2-3 cold reads and then I am asking and what she is doing now, but its more like I dont know what to say/to talk about so I ask these dump question and she feels that Doing cold reads is GOOD, keep doing that.. however after this is done, the next phase that I do is getting her opinion on some random topic. 'Hey, can I get a girl's opinion on something?' .. they love this.. it is like crack for them... tell them about a situation that is about relationships or sex... alw…
/r/seduction27/07/21 07:57 PM
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What can I do to become more composed and less nervous when talking to girls? Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself. When you sleep with enough girls, you will stop putting them on a pedestal, and realize that you have just as much or more value than they do... then you will see that there is nothing to be nervous about... but you won't FEEL this, until later.. so just push through it now... it gets better.. trust me :) For now, just think of it as…
/r/seduction22/07/21 05:01 AM
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Like 3 chicks this week have told me they’re too busy but are down to in the future. I get it- everyone’s busy but not THAT busy They want to continue to talk to you, but aren't comfortable meeting you yet. Convey value, build comfort and trust, try to talk on the phone or video chat, have a good 30min to an hr convo.. Either meet somewhere in public for coffee or something that doesn't require much investment/commitment, or invite her to an activity that you think she will like that you are alr…
/r/seduction22/07/21 04:56 AM
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I didn’t get a ton of girls but the ones I did were always super hot. If you have something that is working, keep doing it. At the same time, try to take things to the next level and keep working on your game, ... the game never ends :) Will I be at a disadvantage? Your only disadvantage that I can see is your height, but no big deal.. none of us are perfect...I was always the super shy guy who girls weren't attracted to initially, but warmed up to me over time.. now I'm old still fucking pretty…
/r/seduction22/07/21 04:47 AM
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she asks me if I wanted to have sex after I made a joke ab it. I went along w it and then she started getting serious and I planned a day to hangout with her. She then continues to keep pushing the date back until we end up not talking at all. You should have been more of a challenge for her. When she asks you if you wanted to have sex, you should have said 'maybe', 'if you think you can turn me on enough for me to want it'. Plan a day but don't be committed on what was going to happen. When you…
/r/seduction22/07/21 04:39 AM
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However, I'm not used to complimenting women on looks or anything related to them In general, you should avoid complimenting women on their looks. You should compliment them on their style, their intelligence, something unique or personal about them, something you share in common.. all the guys compliment them on looks everyday and they already know you want to fuck them because of how they look... very big turnoff.. The only exception is girls that are not good looking either because they are f…
/r/seduction22/07/21 04:12 AM
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what was the turning point for you? The warm glow after realizing that I was the prize and not them. Not wondering, not pretending, but actually believing it through and through. This realization came after I accomplished enough things that I thought were impossible, things that I only saw in porn, such as threesomes, golden showers, a2m, etc... -B
/r/seduction13/07/21 05:45 AM
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being “genetically inferior” will ruin your chances with women. Being genetically inferior will definitely make it more challenging in that you will need to put in more effort, but 'ruin' is a strong word and definitely false. I have seen several extremely bad looking guys with poor bodies still have a high lay count. You would think that being great looking is the be-all and and end-all of everything but consider this. On several occasions with girls that I have fucked, we would be sitting in b…
/r/seduction12/07/21 03:09 PM
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First is logistics.. you need to be sitting close together.. maybe you can share a drink together, you make it, hand him his, sit next to him, and say cheers.. Second, usually before intimacy, you need to kiss. You can do this through a few ways but touching each other first is very helpful.... at some point, you need to look him in the eyes and go for it.. One kiss lends itself to another, which lends itself to making out, and then while this is going on, very natural to use your hands and just…
/r/seduction12/07/21 05:18 AM
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No way flaky chicks hit the bricks too many out there that WILL show upIt I's not mutually exclusive.. you can try one more time AND pursue other girls.. you already invested a lot into that one, why not a bit more and see how it plays out? Have you ever dated flaky chicks before? Remember, its not personal, she treats everyone that way.. so if you can put yourself in a mindset where you don't give a shit, and deal with the drama in the beginning, it will be to your advantage because a lot of gu…
/r/seduction12/07/21 05:03 AM
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then feelings get involved and they get very either insecure that i don’t feel the same way or insecure that my attachment to them is based either on the attention i received from them or based on sex. The problem is you are dating boys, not men. Try dating an older alpha male, and preferably in an open relationship. I think you will both get more of what each of you wants out of the relationship. On a side note, the way you think and feel about relationships is different from most girls, and yo…
/r/seduction12/07/21 01:15 AM
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likely reasons a girl doesn’t show up for a date You're not a top priority, she had multiple plans, and you dropped off. She hasn't got enough 'invested' in you.. i.e. you didn't talk on the phone enough, she's not excited enough, or feels comfortable enough, or likes you enough, etc... what I should do as far as continuing interaction going forward Don't get angry at her. Calmly asked what happened. Even if she flaked for shitty reasons, most girls know well enough to lie and make up something …
/r/seduction12/07/21 01:00 AM
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That's awesome dude!!! You have conquered Fear of approach and fear of rejection! That is an amazing milestone. Next step, try different approaches, and analyze each rejection, so you can dial in and start to get different results. -B
/r/seduction12/07/21 12:52 AM
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I have a general disdain for women Why? You should appreciate them for what they are, accept it, use it to your advantage, and have FUN. Also, as a man, its your job to lead and take responsibility for things. If a girl cheated on you, could it be your fault that you couldn't keep her interested? That you couldn't make her fall in love with you in such a way that she was dying to be with you and do anything for you? That maybe you chose the wrong girl? That its your fault that you were more inve…
/r/seduction08/07/21 05:21 PM
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XI. Be irrationally self-confident XVI. Never be afraid to lose her These and many items on the list are things that you 'Are' .. not things that you 'do'.. it's a state of mind... BTW as an aside.. great list!!.. but the question is how do you achieve these? ... One of the ways.. IMHO critical.. is this nugget ​ VII. Always keep two in the kitty ​ This is something you can 'do'... today.. and it will help with confidence, fear, etc.. this is the best thing that a beta or inexperienced guy can d…
/r/seduction02/07/21 01:43 AM
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I feel like a totally different person when I am confident Figure out what triggers that confidence and see if you can replicate it on demand. I fail to truly see and express the good aspects of myself Try to brainstorm and write down all of the ways that you have value and how you add value to others. -B
/r/seduction01/07/21 05:52 AM
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how do I find a nice women who is also conservative ? Simple, convert them. Sleep with them first a few times, then start bringing up specific political issues. Cognitive Dissonance is your friend :) :) !!!! -B
/r/seduction01/07/21 05:34 AM
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Yes! and outdoor stuff is good too.. kayaking, trails in the forest on a mountain bike, etc.. -B
/r/seduction30/06/21 05:23 PM
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After 30 minutes, many girls get tired..you should get them to have an orgasm or two by that point... ​ -B
/r/seduction30/06/21 05:20 PM
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She was probably dating another guy and just broke up. You're up next in her queue. There is very little effort in replying to texts, so I would try to meet up... -B
/r/seduction20/06/21 08:54 AM
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Do you guys think it is beta to open up a relationship on both sides? Not only for the guy to have some fun on the side but for both parties. Its alpha to keep be free and have sex with many girls at once, and this type of relationship allows for that. It's beta for you to be jealous if/when she's out with other guys. -B
/r/seduction19/06/21 10:30 PM
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One time had 4 vacations in one month with four different girls. And during weekdays I would see the rest. But it was disastrous for my business so never doing that again. LOL, my business suffered quite a bit as well when I started the rotation... its been years now.. and I keep thinking..next week I'm gonna really focus on business... but the girls keep streaming through the rotation and next week never comes ... my friends say that I have an addiction to this... how did you break free? -B
/r/seduction15/06/21 04:40 PM
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Would appreciate any tips on how to keep my 'harem' One thing I do is whenever I'm doing other things, is I send them all the same message/pics and memes. If I'm jogging at the lake, or taking a swing at the golf range, or my cat does something cute.. whatever.. they all get the same pic/text.. as an aside.. its fun to see how they all differently reply... -B
/r/seduction15/06/21 04:35 PM
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I'm dating around 7 girls now and still seeing other girls. Having no problems to manage this. Congrats Dude! Two girls is very manageable for me, three seems to be very tough to schedule every week... they want attention all the time..ugh... ​ ....I can understand if you want quit us dating....... YES THIS 1000% !!!! Its a tough pill to swallow for many guys... big fear of loss.. I remember the first time I did this, I completely expected the girl to walk away.. but to my surprise she stayed...…
/r/seduction15/06/21 04:28 PM
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Aside from improving your muscles a little bit and reducing your weight, which girls WILL find attractive, going to gym is going to boost your confidence and increase your testosterone. Also, as a secondary benefit, you will probably eat a bit healthier, and overall the diet and exercise will let you live a longer more satisfying life... ( imagine being able to hike up a mountain trail at 60 instead of in a motorized wheelchair.. haha ) Of all the different 'self improvement' things we talk abou…
/r/seduction13/06/21 04:23 AM
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In a world where most are bound by rules and restrictions, there is nothing more attractive than a person who retains the ability to act freely with unapologetic authenticity. Yes, this is very true, because it is a show of lack of fear, of strength, very masculine trait! -B
/r/seduction13/06/21 04:14 AM
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ou go away and get shredded, get yourself a more masculine personality, make some money, and you come back. You do this for yourself, not for any particular girl... its when you look in the mirror, and you flex, and see your awesome muscles, and great clothes, and bulging stack of cash in your wallet, and you smile... because you know that you are the FUCKING MAN.. you are the king my friend... the warrior ready to conquer! being more attractive depends entirely on the opinions of other people, …
/r/seduction13/06/21 04:09 AM
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I am over the pick up phase, and don t like getting rejected at all) You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. They don't know you, they cannot really reject *you*.. they might be rejecting their own situation (i.e. they have a bf already and don't want to pursue) or they are late for work, they might be really shy....or whatever.. Just think of it as a video game.. do you care if your character loses? Nope.. you hit reset and try again.. with more resolve and experience on how to win.. -B
/r/seduction13/06/21 03:51 AM
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A path that is about a philosophy of making yourself more attractive, and not so much about trying to seduce girls in a bar? What you're referring to is internal frame, versus external game. Both are ideal, skills and attitude go hand-in-hand. One without the other will severely handicap your ability to be successful at this. -B
/r/seduction13/06/21 03:46 AM
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I agree 1000%... The girls watching those movies are like 'awww..that's so sweet and adorable.... for THAT girl.. but they never see THEMSELVES as being the girl in the movie that would behave or react or be attracted in that way'.. -B
/r/seduction01/06/21 04:39 AM
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How do you flirt/talk with a girl that is negative because she went through negative experiences? 1) Don't take it personally.. it's about her not you.. 2) Don't react to it most of the time.. but once in a while...you can call her out on it... 3) Don't justify yourself to her... for example.. if she says 'all men are assholes'.. don't say " not all men.. I'm different" 4) Don't become one of her girlfriends that just listens and agrees with all of her nonsense.. In general and in principle, jus…
/r/seduction01/06/21 04:32 AM
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I never chase women, I simply observe the level of attention and enthusism a woman has talking to me, and from that I can clearly tell if she wants me. Then you will miss a lot of girls... all of the shy girls who don't give attention/enthusiasm, and the girls who are not initially interested in you because they haven't gotten to know you, and the girls that are not initially interested because they are in a situation like they have a bf already.. and many others... but some of these pan out lat…
/r/seduction01/06/21 04:21 AM
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There is no good or bad if it's subjective, in fact if this is the case then why the fuck are we still following these morals? Simple, it's because society will judge us. ​ Morality is a product of evolution... not because 'society' will judge you, but because it makes it easier and more convenient for you to live in large groups of people. If you were to lie and steal, these groups of people would leave you and you have to fend for yourself, and your life would be much more difficult. Society i…
/r/seduction01/06/21 04:09 AM
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I’m reading more and more anti cold approach comments that are against even the most civil and respectful of cold approaches Cold approach is the most natural way to approach a girl, as this is what has been occurring over the last 100 thousand years. Its only been a few decades of the internet and a hundred years of phone calls, before that, it was all face to face. Take all the advice here with a grain of salt, even my own.. but consider the background of the the person giving advice... is it …
/r/seduction23/05/21 08:48 PM
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a response like “I’m guessing you’re worried you might not be able to keep up with an intelligent conversation” is super condescending, depending on how long you’ve known the girl It all depends on how you say it. If you say it in a serious condescending way, than YES! If you say it in a joking way while you're smiling at her, she will get that you're just being playful. ​ Plus, that script devolves into an interview. Normal convos shouldn’t be interviews. I agree, but its one 'branch' of a conv…
/r/seduction20/05/21 04:36 AM
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if I were to tell you each person’s different qualities there would be no way you could possibly fit them all into one person That is very true. I once met a guy who was strictly into trans girls, to each his own! What I'm talking about is the bell curve, take 100 guys, and pick out the qualities in a girl that the largest number of guys would be attracted to. -B
/r/seduction15/05/21 07:07 PM
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Girl: Do you play videogames Boy: yes I do Girl: ugh i dont think really go for nerds Boy: Yeah, I can see that, you wouldn't be able to hang with them Girl: Why? What do you mean? Boy: I'm guessing you're worried you might not be able to keep up with an intelligent conversation... Girl: Are you saying I'm dumb? Boy: I dunno.. I'll give you a short quiz and we can find out... <And now you are asking her questions AND qualifying her to see if she is good enough for you haha> What's next? Ask her …
/r/seduction14/05/21 05:11 AM
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Where is seduction for women? The main problem is that women are a lot more complicated than guys, when it comes to seduction. Women care about a guy's social status, confidence, intelligence, humor, and yes looks.. ..so there's a lot that men can do to improve themselves... But both women and men tend to think that the opposite sex thinks the same way... so for example.. because guys like getting nude pics, they assume that sending dick pics to girls is a great idea.... but it isn't true... the…
/r/seduction14/05/21 04:53 AM
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Does your car matter? A few factors: 1) It depends on whether they see you as the alpha guy they just met and are going to fuck, or the beta provider guy they are gonna get married and be taken care of with.... 2) It depends on your age, and the age of the girl you're dating.. If you're both 16, you can show up in almost anything.. it beats taking the bus or getting your parents to drive you somewhere... If you're both in your late 30's, you should have made it by now, and girls will be more dem…
/r/seduction14/05/21 04:30 AM
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From experience, women STRONGLY prefer uncircumcised men Haha... I wish that were the case, but sadly it isn't in North America.. Most men are circumsized and most girls are used to seeing that.. luckily.. girls are very forgiving at everything and just run with it... -B
/r/seduction14/05/21 04:13 AM
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9 times out of 10, if a girl says 'I don't want a relationship', it really means she doesn't want a relationship WITH YOU... but again.. this doesn't matter at all.. guys are wired to want to have sex, girls are wired to want to have relationships.. and if you act cool.. give her space, while continuing to spend time, escalating, doing the things I said above.. she will naturally eventually want a relationship with you... A trick that I use ALL of the time is to get in her attention space, chat,…
/r/seduction14/05/21 04:07 AM
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Don't worry, these things are not set in stone. I have had many relationships where it initially began with the worst intentions, and later developed into something else. A girl saying 'I don't want a relationship' almost implies that you asked for one, and if you did, that was a big mistake. But it doesn't really matter, if it were me, I would agree, and pretend like that conversation never even happened. Both you and the girl can change how you feel over the course of the relationship, If you …
/r/seduction13/05/21 06:39 AM
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What they are is exciting and fun, who give no fucks. you're told women are attracted to things like confidence, competence, strength, charisma; it implies that women are most attracted to security. But when guys who offer little to no security are achieving the most success maybe this hypothesis is wrong You're describing your perceived differences between two types of people that are good in game, naturals, and ones who studied and practice PUA. Let's take your two conditions of 'exciting and …
/r/seduction13/05/21 06:30 AM
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Why does being direct with a woman with about what you want almost never work? It depends on WHAT you want. 1) If you're asking a girl out for drinks or golf and she flakes, it means you didn't build enough attraction, comfort, DHV, etc.. or it was just literally too early to escalate.. 2) If you're asking to kiss a girl, have sex, be her boyfriend, etc... a) girls don't like to take responsibility for those decisions, they expect guys to *man up* and make the first moves.. not ask for permissio…
/r/seduction13/05/21 02:51 AM
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> I was not a customer and she was not an "employee" I was making generalizations.. because you said she was an owner, which is even more important for her to be 'nice' than an employee. An employee can get fired and start a new job tomorrow, an owner has poured in thousands of dollars, and has much more to lose, and does much more to make sure a place succeeds than an employee ever would.... You talked to her inside of a place that she owns...of course she's going to act nice to you!! Also, I h…
/r/seduction13/05/21 02:41 AM
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I'm wondering if extending the invite to my place to hangout/talk about a topic we were discussing, and have a drink is a good idea, or if it's a better idea to take her on a date and then ask her to come back You will definitely stand out if you take them on a date, and pay for it, as a lot of guys nowadays just want to take the girl home and either drink or smoke on first date and then attempt sex. A lot of girls don't want to sleep with a guy on the first date because they aren't comfortable …
/r/seduction12/05/21 07:35 AM
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> -Me: "Hey do you want to grab a cup of coffee or a drink sometimes?" You asked a girl that owns a coffee shop if she wants to get a cup of coffee? LOL... ok ... problem #2... you can't ascertain how genuine someone is who is paid to act nice to you.. like a cashier, waitress, or owner of a coffee shop.. -B
/r/seduction12/05/21 07:25 AM
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I COULD give her another opportunity and a second chance but wouldn't it be better to use my time and energy for someone that's actually interested? That's difficult to say out of context. If she's cooled down with the texting/calls/etc.. then yes, time to move on... unless you want to attempt to re-ignite? If she is still doing those things, it could be that she is just dis-organized and/or scatterbrained..... another possibility is that there is a lot of turmoil/drama occurring in her life tha…
/r/seduction12/05/21 07:17 AM
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Why Do Women Hate It When You Use The Game? A simpler explanation: 1) They feel like you're trying to trick them into sex.. its the same reason we hate gold diggers 2) They want to feel like everything *just* spontaneously happened.. with no planning whatsoever.. But...here's a better question... who cares what they like and hate? How does this factor into anything??? marketers, salesman and motivation gurus have one thing in common - THEY MANIPULATE PEOPLE. At some basic level, you can say that…
/r/seduction10/05/21 09:59 PM
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Hey shaggy2gay; I've been doing pickup for two decades now, on and off because I was married twice, and I can tell you that PUA material completely and forever transformed my life from not being able to even have small talk with a cashier or waitress about my order, to how I am now ... sleeping with girls in their 20's while I'm in my 40's. You wrote a lengthy post describing how your friends and strangers will react negatively to your pickup skills. You shouldn't need this type of validation. A…
/r/seduction07/05/21 06:05 AM
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Got rejected today after investing emotionally in one girl for months The first rule of pickup game is that you NEVER EVER invest emotionally more than the girl does.. This equation has to remain true during initial pickup, when you are dating, after you have sex.. even if you are married for 10yrs... If you ever have more feelings for the girl than she has for you at any stage.. then it is game over for you...and you will be in a world of hurt. Speaking of investment, this applies to financial …
/r/seduction07/05/21 04:57 AM
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this chick is kinda out of my league. How should I proceed with conversation without looking like a simp? 1) Don't put her a pedestal just because she's pretty. She has to earn your respect just like everyone else. 2) Don't compliment her on her looks. She knows she's pretty, many guys tell her that every day....she's not only bored of that.. but wants to be seen more than a piece of meat. Be different, ask interesting questions, build rapport, be challenging, etc. -B
/r/seduction07/05/21 04:35 AM
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I try to put all of my relationships into 3 groups.. A Group - Girls I'm sleeping with.... I try to see these girls once a week, may sleep over, may take a weekend trip, etc.. Can't have more than 3 here.. otherwise things fall apart, too many schedule conflicts/overlaps, too much time/attention required.... etc.. B Group - Up and Comers - New Girls I'm talking/texting/calling, maybe haven't seen IRL or went on a date or two but haven't slept with.. trying to advance C Group - Orbiters - Girls t…
/r/seduction05/05/21 11:25 PM
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I use a similar variant... if I take an interesting pic, or want to share an interesting meme.. or whatever.. I text it to all the girls I'm seeing at once including the orbiters, up and comers, etc... and see who replies and how.. it's fun to see the different reactions -B
/r/seduction05/05/21 07:41 AM
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as in the tone and pace as important. However, recently I've read that it plays a big role in the seduction It plays a huge role in seduction, in your friendship circle, at work, with your family, and basically EVERY social interaction. How you deliver words and sentences is as much, if not more important, than the words themselves... -B
/r/seduction05/05/21 07:36 AM
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also I didn't know how to seductively mention it. Like what should I say? "May i pleasure you m'lady?", I think next time hang out the sexual tension is going to be thick af and but im not too clear on how to seductively and in a cool way transition from MO to sex. You don't need to verbalize anything... and definitely don't ask .... one of the girls I'm sleeping with had an interesting story she shared with me.. her last date before me.. there was a hot guy that she was really into, he asked if…
/r/seduction04/05/21 10:07 PM
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Because it feels weird to ask a girl "what turns you on" You have to do it in context, when you are already talking about something related.... Examples.... 1) "My friend Gabriella went on a date with a guy to the beach, and the guy showed up in speedos.. she was really turned off... <talk about that for a bit> .... <what else turns you off?> ... <looks.. like you have a specific type of guy that you like.... so what turns you on?>" 2) "So I was talking to my friend Sarah, and she told me that t…
/r/seduction04/05/21 03:07 PM
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IME this gets worse as women get older (even though their looks deteriorate at the same time their requirements rise, especially for a man's income or career status). EXACTLY... I think part of this is because they have been in too many bad relationships that now their guard is up a lot higher... I honestly don't blame them... but at the same time, why would anyone want want to deal with this? This is why I go for younger girls.. not because of the looks (although that's a nice bonus!!) .... but…
/r/seduction30/04/21 04:58 AM
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I think that there's a silver line cloud to all of this.. 1) Transactional relationships, porn, prostitution, sugar dating, stripping, all of it is becoming more mainstream and more accepted by society... 2) You can leverage these new mediums that didn't exist in the past... I know two friends that are on sugar dating sites who are in their early 50's.. where they initially meet women in their 20's and have a transactional relationship, later the girls sleep over, they go on trips, they talk eve…
/r/seduction30/04/21 04:50 AM
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The message was about 2 paragraphs but I thought it was funny and well written ... and definitely appropriate for a fucking book reviewing account. Apparently not. The reason it was creepy was not because of the perceived quality of your 2 paragraphs, but because of the large effort that you went into, to construct it... it was TOO good... You cannot be that much more invested in the interaction than she was.... in the same way that you cannot find out where she lives and just send her a present…
/r/seduction30/04/21 04:33 AM
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I talk to them like we're only friends. We just have platonic conversation topics like hobbies, school, traveling and so on. I think you answered your own question. 'We just have platonic conversation' ... and why not flirt? Why not have conversations about what turns her on? Why not have conversations about her fetishes? Why not have conversations about what sexual things she has tried? -B
/r/seduction30/04/21 04:22 AM
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Anxiety when talking to women that you talked to once successfully but now you feel some pressure to "perform" when you run into them again. It should be the opposite. When you talk to someone the first time, you have to grasp at something to talk about. When you see them again, you can recall whatever you talked about last time and ask about it, and continue on..... It's also a warmer friendlier approach because they know you, so their 'stranger danger' shield is down/lowered... -B
/r/seduction30/04/21 04:15 AM
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Is having mutual interests irrelevant in pick-up? Having mutual interests helps to have 'comfort building' discussions because you can both relate to things, and you can plan activities together that you both enjoy.. BUT.. it's not a crutch where you think that just because you built an extra layer of comfort, that you don't have to build the same amount of sexual chemistry, DHV, etc.. that you would have to otherwise... -B
/r/seduction27/04/21 05:32 PM
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I saw there were 2 beautiful women (they were also sisters) who also happen to be the owner of the bakery Be careful with reading in too much to girls that are paid to act nice to you.. bartenders, waitresses, strippers, owners of a bakery, etc... You can still proceed as usual but don't be surprised when you get shot down, even though they were giving you indicators of interest. They might be nice to you because they like you.. they might be nice to you because it influences how much money you …
/r/seduction27/04/21 05:27 PM
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weird question، how do you guys get nudes so easily? What I found, is that early in the relationship, the best time is right after sex, even the first or second time. Tell her to pose a certain way, tell her how hot she is when she poses, take your phone out, and tell her you're taking a pic of how sexy she is, and snap away.. tell her to assume another position, and take a few more pics... afterwards, tell her how hot that was, and kiss her passionately.. I NEVER ask or take any pics BEFORE sex…
/r/seduction27/04/21 06:48 AM
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You should give her a break, put her in your orbiter group, and text *once in a while.. like once a week or less.. don't focus on her.... after a bit, send her a meme, DHV, something cute, clever, ask her for her opinion on something.. etc.. What I've found was that sometimes the girls do come back because they had a breakup, they're bored, flunked a class, got fired from work, had a fight, etc... and want someone to talk to... I have 3 groups, A) The girls I'm regularly sleeping with on rotatio…
/r/seduction27/04/21 06:22 AM
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Yes, you should, but for a different reason. When you haven't slept with many girls, attraction is very binary, you either are attracted to a girl or not, mostly based on looks alone, but after enough girls, other attributes enter the picture, and it becomes more hazy on whether you would sleep with any one girl... What has happened to me many times early on, is that I would talk to a girl that I'm not too attracted to, and end up liking her more as time went on because she was really sweet or s…
/r/seduction22/04/21 11:50 PM
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Find yourself a 19-23yr old. They love older men and are not shy about expressing that YES!!! I'm in my 40's and my best girl in rotation just turned 20, and just loves being submissive and calls me daddy in bed :) ​ If you need some confidence hit up a strip club When I started 20yrs ago, I used to talk to cashiers, waitresses, retail associates, basically any other people that were also being paid to be nice to you.. wish I would have thought about a strip club... -B
/r/seduction22/04/21 07:50 PM
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I still sometimes struggle with my self confidence because of being rejected a lot in the past. We all got rejected at one point or another in the past. The best pickup artists have the largest number of rejections under their belt. Think of it as a learning lesson... like a video game where you crash, hit reset and start again with more experience this time around.. In a video game, do you 'struggle' with the fact that you lost 10 lives leading up to wherever you are? No.. actually you feel str…
/r/seduction22/04/21 07:41 PM
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Does having multiple sexual partners make it it difficult to settle down with someone? From a guy's point of view, it will be more difficult in the sense that we will seek someone with much higher value to settle down with, because it will be seen as something worth while in exchange of the sacrifice to ending the fun of multiple sexual partners.... so it will be more difficult to find a girl that has so much value.. The second difficulty will be that once you've settled down, it might be more c…
/r/seduction15/04/21 06:35 PM
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I don’t know if these are mixed signals, or if she just isn’t into me?? She is still into you, but there is only so many times a girl will throw herself at you, and if you don't bite, then you are sending signals to her that you don't like her... she's confused right now why you didn't react and advance, so make a date to see her and escalate. -B
/r/seduction15/04/21 06:25 PM
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Oneitis will go away for a particular girl after you are with someone else Oneitis in general will go away after you've slept with about 15 girls.. you will see that there is no one 'special' girl.. they all have various good and bad attributes.. -B
/r/seduction15/04/21 06:21 PM
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I feel like, for once, I won the mind games by not pursuing and I’m addicted to this feeling, I have to do it more. Welcome to the start of a wonderful journey... in the end, imagine that you DO have sex with the girl, and afterwards you still don't feel like pursuing her.... she will have to prove herself to you... -B
/r/seduction15/04/21 05:23 AM
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how many percent of your quality of life is dependent on your dating/sex/love life? Probably more than I'd like to admit.. I will say that after I figured out the 'game', and sleeping with several girls a week, after I opened up my eyes to what is possible, I'm a lot more calm, focused, and just find myself enjoying life a lot more.. Its hard to imagine if that all disappeared.. especially overnight It's very similar to when I grew a business, and having enough money now that you don't need to w…
/r/seduction14/04/21 10:26 PM
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You think at a fundamental level both men and women don’t detest neediness and desperation? DEFINATELY a difference... Most women absolutely detest neediness and desperation in a man.. it's an EXTREME turnoff and they will run for the hills...it's a core attraction principle to be strong and confident.. Many men on the other hand will be comforted by a women's neediness and will be happy that they think that they have won her over and she is doing the chasing instead of him.... Other men might j…
/r/seduction14/04/21 10:08 PM
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The opinion opener is a classic technique that tends to yield great results. YES!! I think that you will see the opener is easy, girls love to give their opinions on anything.... and as a result, it will encourage you to open more The challenge is to slowly bridge random opinion openers with personal stories, DHV.. etc.. to eventually escalate and a have a reason to get her number or insta-date. -B
/r/seduction14/04/21 09:48 PM
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does it make you happy? Do you have a natural drive to want to have sex and relationships? If so, then yes, if not, then its debatable on whether you pleasantly surprise yourself or get discouraged if problems prevent you from achieving whatever you are seeking.. I want to get to a regular dating life, which steps would I need to take? Pickup is a process... the approach -> the number -> the text/phone game -> the meetup -> the date -> the going back to your place -> the escalation -> the kissin…
/r/seduction14/04/21 09:43 PM
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when in reality both men and women operate under the same basic principles Uh...NO! This is entirely wrong. Women are attracted to a man's social standing, resources, confidence and other personality traits, masculinity, and yes looks.. Men are mostly attracted to a women's looks, and don't care much or at all about the other traits... in fact many men prefer that some of the those traits are opposite to what the women want.. example.. many men would prefer for the girl to have few resources.. i…
/r/seduction14/04/21 09:34 PM
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This will lead to very bad advice because what women think they want, and what actually turns them on doesn't have a strong correlation.. this is the basis for a lot of pickup material... for a simple example.. most women will tell you that they want someone who is 'kind/nice', but most of them respond to someone who is mentally 'strong'.... this leads to the nice guy listening to the girl that he likes complain about her asshole boyfriend.. and wonder.. if he's such an asshole.. why doesn't she…
/r/seduction08/04/21 08:18 PM
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Makes me wonder why women make this stuff so difficult and why it took me walking away for her to realise that it didn’t need to be so difficult in the first place WHEN I was showing interest? Remember... women only care about one thing -> 'how you make them feel' .. and you created a situation where they felt that you didn't care and that they were going to lose you... 'why is this guy no longer chasing me? ..that was a great feeling, I want it back, he needs to chase me again'... -B
/r/seduction08/04/21 08:08 PM
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I usually have 3-5 girls on the go, and while I don't really think they are chasing me.. I still have to put in the effort for most girls to initiate almost everything... having multiple girls really helps to remove all of the needy reactions and needy behavior that occurs when there is only one girl.. if a girl stands you up, doesn't return your text or call, or any number of things... instead of pondering why or what happened, you don't have a chance to think about it because you're busy respo…
/r/seduction08/04/21 08:01 PM
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Usually, if someone yells at me in public, unless its a dude that's bigger than me and I'm physically scared of him, I usually laugh at them and tell them that I feel sorry for them. This causes confusion and they don't know how to react.. sometimes they ask why, and I tell them that something must be very bad or happened recently to them in their life that they are very angry and that's why they lash out and yell at people.. if they try to stick to the subject at hand.. i revert to my own subje…
/r/seduction08/04/21 07:53 PM
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I've read 50 manuals from different gurus and can tell you that there is no 'one' source of truth... The mindframe/psychology that you refer to is also called 'inner game'.. this is your set of beliefs and attitudes and while you can understand them.. you can't really absorb them and believe them until you move past some initial barriers.. for example.. seeing girls as abundant instead of scarce can only be felt after you have had enough under your belt to internalize it that way... but its good…
/r/seduction08/04/21 07:41 PM
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The Mystery Method. A lot of people put this book down.. but I agree that if you only read one book, this would be it. I've read most of the mainstream guides over the last 20yrs and this has produced profound results for me and was a great initial foundation. A lot of the new books/guides are severely watered down to stay off the radar of snowflakes and social justice warriors and as a result are much less useful today. -B
/r/seduction05/04/21 03:26 PM
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but idek how it would work They will at some point either ask you for their password, or bank information, or will ask you to send them a small amount first to pay for some 'transfer fee' with a promise that they will send you a big amount later. -B
/r/seduction05/04/21 03:16 PM
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Why is cold approaching hot girls so much harder than cold approaching less attractive girls? Because you anticipate that a hot girl will turn you down more frequently and harshly than a less attractive girl. You might feel that a less attractive girl should be lucky that you talk to her, while you would be lucky to get together with a hot girl... The key to this though is that this has nothing to do with the girls themselves.. this is all about you and your 'feelings' and 'attitudes' around it.…
/r/seduction05/04/21 03:11 PM
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You shouldn't practice BDSM to build attraction... you should practice it if you feel this is natural and fun for you to do and you enjoy it.. I get girls to call me daddy and I spank them, and call them good girl and bad girl. They gladly comply and I can tell they really enjoy it.. I have some rules like they are only allowed to wear sexy panties or no panties to bed... but I don't slap them or hit them because I feel that this is physical violence .... and it doesn't turn me on... I wouldn't …
/r/seduction05/04/21 03:05 PM
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have no plans to hook up with anyone. That's true, but one thing I learned is that a girl's 'intentions' are not set in stone. I have had many successful relationships/hookups/etc. where the girl's initial intentions and plans were very shitty/ugly... but over a short time they turned.. -B
/r/seduction05/04/21 02:47 PM
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I used to work at a trampoline park Best part of the story SHE LITERALLY WANTED ME TO HIT ON HER/MAKE MOVES ON HER IN FRONT OF HER BOYFRIEND. HOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE?! She wanted you and the bf to compete for her attention.. best man wins :) Another time I met a new girl at a friends get together, and she kept talking about all the dudes she was talking to/with. Translation: 'there's all the these other dudes.. and yet she's spending time with you.... she must like you' -B
/r/seduction31/03/21 09:30 PM
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I'm a skinny guy and I feel the insecurity especially when I wear jeans or certain clothing Women will notice the insecurities that you 'project' by your behavior. If you start acting weak because of what you are wearing, they will notice the behavior but not necessarily why. You should remember that when it comes to physical appearance, guys are much more ruthless in how they judge girls, then vice-versa. Looks are a much smaller proportion of attraction than for us, so no need to be so self co…
/r/seduction26/03/21 09:16 PM
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Hey dude; You mentioned 4 or 5 things in your post that the girl did to express interest in you.. I would just assume she was into me after the first IOI. Don't worry or try to figure out exactly how much she is into you.. girls themselves don't know that until they hang out with you more and get to know you better... don't put her on the spot and ask her if she like you.. just assume she does, unless she explicitly tells you otherwise, and make some moves on her. -B
/r/seduction04/03/21 05:51 AM
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A girl that you fucked 4 times doesn't just end this out of the blue for no reason. This is most likely a response to you expressing some sort of feeling for her that she didn't yet have for you on your fourth date..... or something else random happened like she started talking or fucking her x again.... For the response to text, I would have said something to the effect of 'Yes, let's just keep this casual'.. and cooled of for a few days.. then re-engaged with DHV, and then asked her to do some…
/r/seduction04/03/21 05:44 AM
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On looks.. Yes, looks matter a lot in initial approach, but I've met countless girls who say 'I was attracted to that guy until he opened his mouth' ... they only get you so far... I've slept with over 50 girls and I can tell you that showing persistence, being an orbiter, and over time striking when the girl's situation changes and she is more receptive to advances definitely works.. when looks are not in your favour... yes you have to put in more effort.. but so what, you still get the girl in…
/r/seduction04/03/21 05:31 AM
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you are miscalculating and incorrectly assuming on so many absurd levels that I feel completely repelled by you. I’m sure that’s not the reaction you were going for, is it? Case in point. The purpose of my response was to help guys on the board here and (maybe) yourself better understand female psychology, not to try to attract you in ANY way... your response was actually pretty predictable....its the same response when some PUA guy tries to hold a conference or meet-up.. women come out of the w…
/r/seduction15/02/21 06:58 PM
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Well, as a woman, I have to say that my mind is completely blown by the story you just told... wtf, who does that?? Never in my life can I imagine being dishonest/manipulative like that. How fucking weird!! The problem is as a woman, you don't test guys consciously, you do it sub-consciously to test their strength to see whether you are attracted to them... As a man, we are very visual and know right away if we want to sleep with you, but most woman aren't sure at first and they need more time t…
/r/seduction13/02/21 06:06 PM
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Why can’t I split the Bill I wanna keep at least a bit of my lost investment why not This is why you don't go to a restaurant on the first date... she has to 'earn' that.. first date is coffee or a walk in the park or something that doesn't require much cash.. but before that.. I usually talk with them on the phone once or twice for at least 30min each time.... so you get a feel for whether you want to take the next step.. -B
/r/seduction12/02/21 04:34 AM
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Whenever the ex comes up, whether its recent or far into the past.. I usually side with the ex if she was complaining about him, unless it was extreme like he was physically assaulting her or something... they will usually double down on her position. If you side with her.. then it creates doubts.. here are two examples... see which one plays out better for you :) -------------------------------------------------- Her: My x was a real asshole, he never showed up on time for anything, always kept…
/r/seduction10/02/21 07:31 PM
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Congrats, you did the most important thing, you actually approached and overcame your anxiety!! That is the most important thing.. the rest is details... On your next approach, don't ask a girl if you can be friends... make it more casual... get her opinion on something.. or comment on something personal about her.. like.. 'those are really cool earings'... or situational... 'this lineup is sooo long'... etc... then casually say a story related to whatever the opener was... like ' I remember one…
/r/seduction10/02/21 07:17 PM
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If you actually dated a nurse in the past few months, how was the experience? I dated a girl who worked as an ambulance driver transporting covid patients. Since you appear to be extremely risk averse, and the implication here is that you would date other girls.. just not nurses... you should look up and see whether there is a higher statistical significance of nurses having covid than the general population? You might think that , yes there is, because their exposure rates might be higher.. but…
/r/seduction09/02/21 11:50 PM
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These are all self help/self improvement/life coaching advices. They are good. No doubt about that but they are NOT Pick Up advices. Self improvement and PUA overlap a lot, not necessarily that one doesn't have anything to do with the other. For most people that never picked up anyone or having extremely few pickups, they believe that pickup is all about the lines that you give.. let's take an analogy of learning to drive a car... would you tell someone that to back out of the driveway, they nee…
/r/seduction09/02/21 11:40 PM
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​ can i grt the control back? How? is there hope for me to do so? Yes, it is possible, but most likely you are not strong enough to do it. You are under the impression that you can say or do a few things to change everything around... but that is not enough... the root issue is that in the beginning, she cared about the relationship more than you... she chased you... and you fell in love with that chase and power.. she saw that you cared and she saw that you got addicted to it.. so now she has y…
/r/seduction09/02/21 11:16 PM
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But is it possible to still meet and pickup women during this phase? Yes, it's just practice, go for it. This way, you will be better prepared and more confident when you hit the next milestone and want to spend more time meeting and picking up. -B
/r/seduction09/02/21 09:35 PM
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It doesn't matter if they are in a relationship or not... If you notice, most girls are 'serialy' monogamous.. i.e. they jump from one guy to the next... many good looking ones don't have a big break in between... what happens is that they are in a relationship.. and a queue forms for the next guy... the current guy cheats or fight.. or whatever.. there is usually a 'next' guy to jump to right there... so if you find a girl in a relationship.. you just behave the same way... you flirt.. you send…
/r/seduction09/02/21 09:31 PM
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You can use gimmicks like reading their palm and using truisms , you can talk about some story related to heavy lifting and touch her bicep and make fun of her playfully that she is weak.. which leads to staring at her and moving your hand down to her hand and tell her that its okay because she's cute ..or something personal.... you make up a story that you can tell whether a girl is dominant or submissive in bed... by the way they hold your hand.. and you can demonstrate that with her... and th…
/r/seduction04/02/21 11:08 PM
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Am I reading too much into it or was she offering me a chance to learn more about her and maybe get in touch? She wouldn't have spelled out her name if she wasn't open to the idea of you contacting her. Send her a note on FB that her sexiest patient of the day is recovering well... comment on something in her profile or pics .. do the usual .. opinion opener.. DHV.. etc.. -B
/r/seduction04/02/21 10:34 PM
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and I'm going to initiate with a hug when we meet ALWAYS hug a girl when you first meet and kiss and then hug during all subsequent meets and goodbyes.. I'm strongly considering letting her sit at the booth and then sliding next to her I always sit across.. its easier to make eye contact and hold hands across the table. -B
/r/seduction04/02/21 10:25 PM
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why I get so anxious reading dating advices No.. most guys are usually anxious BEFORE reading dating advice.... they are looking to reduce their anxiety by knowing what to do....otherwise why read it in the first place? They treat women as enemies No, they treat women as a goal, or an achievement. This isn't done to objectify women per se, but its a means-to-an-end because these guys have no social awareness or experience, are shy, but many are into video games, or D&D, scoring high on SAT ... o…
/r/seduction04/02/21 10:18 PM
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I feel like I get attached way to fast to girls I meet we usually hit it off the first night I catch feelings after I make out with females and iy sucks so much I can’t stop thinking about them Try 2 things: 1) Sleep with over 10 girls, this will allow you to be more selective and stop getting oneitis on each girl 2) Try to date multiple girls at once .. I find 3 works best... any more and it becomes a logistical nightmare and I don't have enough bandwidth to give any of them enough attention...…
/r/seduction11/01/21 12:08 AM
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funny as fuck and kinda sad. You shouldn't be expected to be monogamous with a girl you haven't met yet. Also, this is rare because not only did girl#2 match with you, but she took liberty to discuss the match with girl#1. Turns out that I’d matched with one of her friends and I’d invited her over on Tuesday Is girl#2 still coming over? :) Has this ever happened to you guys? If so, how do you navigate it Yes, I was planning a threesome with girl#1 and showing pics of other girls that I had slept…
/r/seduction04/01/21 12:27 AM
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I’m not sure if at this stage I get too needy, but around this 5-6 month mark i usually seem to start to force the conversation of what are we, which i’m wondering if it’s messing things up? Or if i’m going for too young of women 23-27 range. In the same way that you shouldn't 'ask' a girl to kiss her in on a first date, you shouldn't be having a conversation with her about 'where you are' five months in. You should already 'know' where you are and you should have been leading things into the di…
/r/seduction04/01/21 12:01 AM
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Well if the roles were reversed it would be deemed creepy and stalkerish, but we don't live in an equal world. It can be good as a form of comfort building if you already slept with her, and you've teased her a lot and generally act alpha around her.... and you want to move things from a fuckbuddy/fwb to a relationship.. -B
/r/seduction21/12/20 10:03 PM
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Are Naturals still better than PUA's? It depends on whether the PUA has built strong internal game, that is difficult to develop and built into the natural... For external game, A PUA understands the psychology of everything, while the natural just knows bits and pieces from trial and error and doesn't understand why any of it works... they are 'just having fun', so the PUA can be more efficient. -B
/r/seduction21/12/20 10:03 PM
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Well if the roles were reversed it would be deemed creepy and stalkerish, but we don't live in an equal world. It can be good as a form of comfort building if you already slept with her, and you've teased her a lot and generally act alpha around her.... and you want to move things from a fuckbuddy/fwb to a relationship.. -B
/r/seduction21/12/20 09:56 PM
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Well if the roles were reversed it would be deemed creepy and stalkerish, but we don't live in an equal world. It can be good as a form of comfort building if you already slept with her, and you've teased her a lot and generally act alpha around her.... and you want to move things from a fuckbuddy/fwb to a relationship.. -B
/r/seduction21/12/20 09:55 PM
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Well if the roles were reversed it would be deemed creepy and stalkerish, but we don't live in an equal world. It can be good as a form of comfort building if you already slept with her, and you've teased her a lot and generally act alpha around her.... and you want to move things from a fuckbuddy/fwb to a relationship.. -B
/r/seduction21/12/20 09:55 PM
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Well if the roles were reversed it would be deemed creepy and stalkerish, but we don't live in an equal world. It can be good as a form of comfort building if you already slept with her, and you've teased her a lot and generally act alpha around her.... and you want to move things from a fuckbuddy/fwb to a relationship.. -B
/r/seduction21/12/20 09:54 PM
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Well if the roles were reversed it would be deemed creepy and stalkerish, but we don't live in an equal world. It can be good as a form of comfort building if you already slept with her, and you've teased her a lot and generally act alpha around her.... and you want to move things from a fuckbuddy/fwb to a relationship.. -B
/r/seduction21/12/20 09:54 PM
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Well if the roles were reversed it would be deemed creepy and stalkerish, but we don't live in an equal world. It can be good as a form of comfort building if you already slept with her, and you've teased her a lot and generally act alpha around her.... and you want to move things from a fuckbuddy/fwb to a relationship.. -B
/r/seduction21/12/20 09:53 PM
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Well if the roles were reversed it would be deemed creepy and stalkerish, but we don't live in an equal world. It can be good as a form of comfort building if you already slept with her, and you've teased her a lot and generally act alpha around her.... and you want to move things from a fuckbuddy/fwb to a relationship.. -B
/r/seduction21/12/20 09:53 PM
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In every self improvement stuff they mention a man shouldn’t be a relationship focused, instead it’s woman’s responsibility. Because at some point, the woman should be chasing you....and the chase is for a relationship -B
/r/seduction18/12/20 07:45 PM
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During our call I asked her out and we setup a date for the love of god I cant remember if it was for saturday or sunday. How do I go about asking the day we talked about? Wait a day, then tell her you entered it in your calendar app, and it crashed, or didn't save, or some other tech issue. Damn computers :) -B
/r/seduction17/12/20 07:58 AM
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Sometimes when Im dating I end up forgetting some of the new things I try to internalise and work on. That used to happen to me time from time, and its a reminder that you know the tactics/techniques/mindset, but you haven't internalized the frame yet... for example.. Girl: I'm sorry, I was 45 minutes late, I had to fold my laundry.. Your initial reaction: Oh, its okay, I don't mind waiting for you, I'm glad you decided to come Later you think about something better: I was about to call it a nig…
/r/seduction13/12/20 09:21 AM
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You're better off attracting 3 7s who are quality ladies and will forever give you peace of mind than attracting 17 9s who will forever give you migraines. That's probably because you are treating the 9's differently than the 7's. Do you supplicate, give them more chances, excuse or accept bad behavior that you otherwise wouldn't... just because they are a 9 instead of a 7? That's the trap, and its on you not on them... I'd rather fuck 17 9's and drop any of them who give me a headache, rather t…
/r/seduction13/12/20 09:06 AM
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Women are a lot more *forgiving* in the looks department than men are especially after they are emotionally invested. I have a friend who uses photoshopped pictures from 20yrs ago online... he is not only short, but has many other problems... it *barely* looks like him...he matches with the girls, and has great text game.. then great phone game.. he talks to them for hours.. and for weeks or months at a time before the first meet....they develop emotional connections.. finally.. there is the big…
/r/seduction08/12/20 10:24 PM
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Is there a way to improve that other than cold approaching or messaging girls on OLD? You need to practice, as with anything else. Right now I am terrible at it and have been for years and don't really have much reference. The most important thing is internal game, your frame. You cannot think of every situation that will be thrown at you, but if you see yourself as the prize, if you see yourself as the guy that doesn't care about how they react because you're not trying to win them over, then i…
/r/seduction08/12/20 09:43 PM
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Me: have a list of movie recommendations I wanna tell you. Bring a scroll Her: I’ll bring a toilet paper haha Me: You're going to get a list of shitty recommendations :) ​ Her: I. Am. Cute. Me1: What else do you have going for you? Me2: Well get your cute butt over here Me3: Oh yeah? What would you rate yourself on a scale of 1-10? Me4: True, but you're also a brat :) -B
/r/seduction08/12/20 09:25 PM
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We get intimate, she pulls back and tells me, she won’t have sex with me. I would right away say "What's wrong baby?" You need to find out the root cause of why... If you have trouble opening up her reasons, like she says ' I just don't want to', then say 'okay' and start guessing... 'is it because you don't find me attractive?' .. 'is it because you're not shaved?' , 'is it because you're on your period?'... she will say 'no' a few times and eventually want to correct you and open up... :) If s…
/r/seduction08/12/20 09:14 PM
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I am wondering if I did not hit the iron while it was hot. Out last convo was on Monday. Am wondering if I should’ve just said - yeah, let’s catch up. Free later? Yes, and yes... When a girl says that she is free to hang out later, I pull out my calendar right there and say, 'hey I'm busy Wednesday and Thursday, but free Friday and Sunday, which day works best for you? ' Most likely she will commit to some date, but if she says "I'll get back to you", then I double down and say 'oh its no pressu…
/r/seduction05/12/20 09:56 PM
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What are yall’s strategies when it comes to women being hot and cold? One of the many reasons to have multiple girls in your life. When they are cold, you ignore them, wait, and they come back around. In the meantime, you are having fun with others... I've been doing this for years and three stable girls plus MANY orbiters is the optimum number for me.. I've tried 4 or 5 girls and I couldn't keep up with everyone... I couldn't have a life outside of constantly rotating through seeing them all...…
/r/seduction05/12/20 09:42 PM
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I hope to God you dont enjoy all the crap and BS women talk about like gossip, TV shows, the girls they dont like at work etc. If you do, you are a mangina. I think that's overly simplified... it's not the subject itself, but what you say... for example, when I talk about one of my favorites tv shows, 2 1/2 men... I tell the girls I want to be like Charlie Harper... what I DON'T do is pacify them and say .. 'oh what a misogynist he is'... when a girl bitches about some girl they don't like at wo…
/r/seduction05/12/20 09:28 PM
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How do you set the premise/frame that YOU are the cookie/treat at the end of the meal when, as a man, YOU are the one doing the approaching/establishing premise??? You do it in a subtle way by showing that you are a high value male that has many options and a life outside of her, by implicit ways such as being busy when setting up the next date to try to fit her into your schedule, by flirting and in general giving innuendos that you *may* allow her to get further with you if she's lucky or tale…
/r/seduction03/12/20 09:43 PM
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Wow.. there's so much to unpack here... > Thats called toxic masculinity. What is toxic is male shaming by white knights and feminists. > Men are not scared of taking the initiative they are scared of the consequences. LOL haha... that's like saying I'm not scared of fighting, I'm scared of getting hit, and getting a bruise... ah..yes, it means you're scared... > Being creepy, being rejected, being ridiculed. I experienced all 3 during adolescents and it leaves a psychological mark on anyone who…
/r/seduction03/12/20 09:24 PM
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What do guys prefer? Easy or difficult? Obviously, we would say that we would 'choose' easy if asked, but many will be 'attracted' to the chase... I hear guys complain about the pressure they have to take the initiative I know, it's pathetic. Men are complaining that they have to act like men... it makes it easier for the remaining ones.. :) :) -B
/r/seduction02/12/20 07:11 AM
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How zesty or normal should your conversation be? I use deep emotional stories, funny stories, DHV stories, I ask emotional and personal questions about family, goals, life, etc.. I tease her, I try to build rapport, I try to flirt... it all becomes second nature after a while if you are constantly chatting.. I try to ask follow-up questions like... 'so what made you want to become a teacher?" .. If she's not opening up, you can continue.. "....To feel that you're making a difference in young min…
/r/seduction27/11/20 07:27 PM
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Psychologically speaking... you are always 'yourself'.. you can't run away from it... You might be a guy that sits and watches TV and never changes anything about themselves hoping for Ms. wonderfull to waltz in... or you might be a guy that is into self improvement and changes his clothes and gets in shape.... both of those guys are 'being themselves'.... -B
/r/seduction27/11/20 07:13 PM
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So after that last convo sat. She texts me today on Thursday to ask how my vacation is going. Text Back: "It's going awesome :) Me and a few guys are going to a club tonight, what shirt do you think I look better in? <pic 1> <pic 2> " This will test to see if she gets back to you in a timely manner over time sensitive things... I think she is keeping you around as an orbiter.. and/or hasn't figured out whether she wants date #2.. she's on the fence. Assuming you're interested to keep pursing, yo…
/r/seduction27/11/20 05:56 AM
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The Mystery Method and read something that seems to contradict most dating advice.. That is because the old coaches were raw and hardcore and taught fundamentals of internal and external game.. they were more of a technical/tactical how-to guides with no filters, while the new guides are very watered down fluffy marketing BS with massive political correctness built-in so that they don't upset anyone. ​ If she flakes on you, don't confront her about it next time you see her But what about the who…
/r/seduction27/11/20 02:11 AM
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Tinder Bio Hack Speaking of tinder hacks, tinder punishes you for swiping right too much.. the punishment is that you won't show up in other girls stacks... so I will go into settings, and change filter to only show 30-40yr old girls.. swipe left 100 times.. then change filter back to 20-30yr olds, and swipe right on everything... :) ...and to answer the question of why I would swipe right on girls I don't like.. well yes it takes a lot less time to just swipe right on everyone and sort it out l…
/r/seduction27/11/20 01:46 AM
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I would interpret this as a series of shit tests. ​ And she says “I’m no plant whisperer like jasper My initial instinct would be to laugh and agree with her and then follow-up with, " True, I'm a <insert something here> whisperer" .. for me for example.., I love to spank girls.. I spank them when they're bad, I spank them when they're good, I give them birthday spanks...etc... so I would say "I'm the discipline whisperer", give her a slap across her ass, and look at her straight in the eyes and…
/r/seduction26/11/20 07:23 AM
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You put people who are way smaller and shorter than you (women) in vulnerable positions, where they have no choice but to give you their numbers. After all you a stranger and might be aggressive or violent who knows Just because someone is smaller than you, that doesn't automatically put them in vulnerable positions just through casual smile or conversation. By your logic, any guy who is larger or taller than you should not speak to you since they would make you feel vulnerable, and you should n…
/r/seduction26/11/20 06:01 AM
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In studies with apes and other like primates the alpha male of the pack is not alpha male because he has the most resources but because of his social status. It’s a little difficult to compare the behavior of other primates because they don’t exchange money for goods or services, however I will concede with you that social status is the most important thing that a female looks for in a man. This doesn’t really take away from my argument, when I initially wrote that women judge men ‘by the size o…
/r/seduction26/11/20 12:14 AM
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I've not met a single woman that cared that much about the size of a mans wallet Oh really? Perhaps you would like to explain your comment as a women, that you wrote in another post: ​ I will never date a guy who cannot live on his own, make enough to take care of himself, and any other life necessity. If I was in my thirties and looking for a guy who wanted to start a family I would want to make sure I chose some one who could go a little beyond that, security in case something bad happened. Re…
/r/seduction25/11/20 07:03 AM
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My point is: your date isn’t a tax free savings account, you can’t expect to invest $2 (little to no effort or respect) and expect your $2 to yield a huge $10,000 return. (Frequent sex, affection, attention, etc.) There's so many wrong things here, its hard to know where to begin. You should never buy a girl dinner, give respect, spend time, or even give her $2 in the anticipation that you are going to get ANYTHING in return. The more that guys do this, the more they build a sense of entitlement…
/r/seduction24/11/20 10:55 PM
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I pegged it around 20% harder without the muscle. Which is nowhere near worth all the effort guy put into trying to get into shape. There are two other variables at play here. One is body fat percentage.. this is much more important than muscle size.. being slim instead of muscular is only going to drop you down a few points but getting a beach ball belly will drop you through the floor. The other variable is age.. the older the girl is , generally speaking the less this matters...they objectify…
/r/seduction24/11/20 09:48 PM
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Your efforts remain for you and you alone, no one cares and you still haven't met that basic human need for companionship Self improvement is only one aspect of the game, you seemed to have mastered that but what about the rest? -B
/r/seduction23/11/20 11:13 PM
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stop this whole need to get validation from women and try to make em happy. Most women will never be happy EXACTLY!! 1000% You want to make a woman happy? Make her jump through a lot of hoops to gain your affection, make her feel like she is winning you over through her efforts... she will get a lot of happiness from pleasing you... trust me :) :) ​ always put yourself and your needs first before anybody else. If she is not happy, she can leave. Yes, and incidentally, this also creates attractio…
/r/seduction23/11/20 11:11 PM
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Texts but won’t go on a date Multiple flakes Won’t come to your place or be alone with you. These are all true, but the mindset I've developed is that they drop off my main list and become my orbiter.. i.e. I text them much less often... once a week or once every two with DHV, jealousy, memes, etc... some time passes by and some of them come around because their own situation changes, the guy or two they were chasing all drop off, they broke up with someone, they had a bad day, they got fired, e…
/r/seduction23/11/20 10:47 PM
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the worst thing is the 'neg' straight after the opener lol. Actually, it's more effective now than it has ever been, as guys have become afraid of everything. These are just a guy's version of a shit test. You need to smile, look in her eyes, deliver confidently in context, and LAUGH WITH HER about it... you know it worked when she gives you a sly smile and wants to tickle or lightly punch you or call you an asshole while the both of you are laughing about it.. Incidentally, if she does call you…
/r/seduction23/11/20 10:33 PM
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I ghosted her for 6 days now she finally texted me first. I am thinking about texting her tomorrow to let her wait some more what you guys think? I would text her now, or call her and set up a date. For whatever reason, you are next in the queue... you wait too long.. and you get dropped off the front of the line again... Having said that, don't double or triple text... if she again doesn't respond back in a timely manner, then ghost again for a while.. ​ I am unsure if i want a relationship wit…
/r/seduction18/11/20 09:51 PM
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I want to confront her about this but don’t want to seem clingy or invasive because we’ve only been talking for about 2 months. Any advice? If she's seeing someone, you're most likely not going to find out the truth, if she's been lying to you, she will continue to keep lying when confronted. In addition, she will be less attracted to you because it shows that you are tracking her time and care when she texts you back, and showing your hand in general that you are more invested in the relationsh…
/r/seduction18/11/20 09:45 PM
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It mostly depends on the 'look' you are trying to go for. I portray myself as successful guy who wants to have fun so my outfit of choice which has worked very well is sports coat and jeans.. interestingly designed dress shirts also have worked very well for me.. Two things that I learned over the years with clothes is that: 1) Its the overall outfit that matters, not any individual piece.. it all needs to match and complement each other.. from shoes to shirt to pants to jacket to sunglasses.. 2…
/r/seduction17/11/20 08:27 PM
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Basically, she isn't the lovey dovey wearing your heart on your sleeve type.And its killing me. I want her to constantly tell me how much she loves me and how happy she is that she's a big part of my life and all of that stuff. You are seeking validation from her, and this will not end well for you. I'm guessing you were with a girl previously who DID do all the lovey dovey stuff with you, and now you miss it. Your best course of action is to accept that her character is different and accept tha…
/r/seduction17/11/20 08:11 PM
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Heard from someone that you should “fake it til you make it” with your confidence and it’ll eventually come to you. Any tips with that? Yes, you should pick a few people that are ultra confident that you either know very well in real life or have seen enough footage that you would know or likely to know how they would behave in most situations.. and try to think 'what would they do, or how would they react' in any given situation... and attempt to emulate that behavior. This is difficult to do b…
/r/seduction14/11/20 08:07 PM
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After 25 approaches, 13 girls gave me their snapchat or number; I have yet to receive a reply after texting them. 1) What is the context that your asking their number? Is it because you plan to meet up later, or exchange pics or memes or something, or are you just asking without any reason? 2) What are you texting them? I often text a 'It was nice chatting with you, have a great rest of your day :) ' a little while after the interaction, and then DHV or opinion opener later or next few days. -B
/r/seduction13/11/20 05:49 PM
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At some point, a lot of you younger guys will realize that after you deal with many women, women and sex are not really a big deal anymore, right now my position is neutral. That's with everything in life. I always used to want to invest in real estate, I bought 10 books on it, study guides.. everything, etc.. now after owning 20 buildings, its just *natural*, not a big deal.. same with business. I quit the corporate world, and after earning about $800k, the next dollars coming in didn't mean an…
/r/seduction13/11/20 05:41 PM
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First up, you should give them a hug on approach. This sets the proper frame and gets your first physical contact out of the way. Then there is a ton of things depending on context and your personality. You can do silly palm reading tricks, you can mention that a girl looks tired or stressed and go in for a light massage on shoulders or back, you can do playful things like if you're talking about climbing a mountain and giving her a hard time whether she can keep up with you, reach for her bicep…
/r/seduction11/11/20 07:41 PM
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I couldn’t decide whether I was looking for a relation, friendship or sex First, decide what YOU want, regardless of the other person I thought of categorizing girls after a few conversations. Why would you close off the potential for a relationship to develop into something else? Maybe at first you don't see someone as a girlfriend or whatever, but hers or your situation changes, or you discover something new about her or about what you want... What benefit do you derive from closing all of thi…
/r/seduction11/11/20 07:24 PM
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Hi Kris; Tough crowd here .... jeez :( This reminds me of advice given by Scott Adams that if you can be good at 2 different things instead of being the best at 1, even if they are wildly random things that don't appear to be in common with each other (i.e. modelling your ass and engine rebuilding) , you can be very successful .... I love it :) https://medium.com/the-innovation/career-advice-from-scott-adams-how-to-become-unique-d2c20b3247b5#:~:text=Except%20that%20there%20is%20value,takes%20it%…
/r/seduction11/11/20 07:18 PM
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How would you handle it? First, don't call them out on anything, pretend like nothing happened. Second, wait a week, then DHV or opinion or 'you'll never guess what happened to me...' type openers.., with 1 message. Wait another 2 or 3 weeks, try again. Wait another few months, try again.... I've had about 20% success rate with this when I remember to follow-up... This works because sometimes you randomly catch them in a situation where they broke up with someone, or some other event where they …
/r/seduction11/11/20 06:32 AM
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Is it a comfort zone thing or is it something else? I used to do it for validation, then once I got it, I felt terrible. Then I used to do it for practice, since it didn't matter what I said to them or what I asked for, I could hone in how to ask for rim jobs, threesomes, anal, golden showers, etc... but I still felt terrible at the end.. tried to make up for it by acting as their relationship therapist and tried to help them find a guy who actually likes them... I ran through all my porn fetish…
/r/seduction10/11/20 11:56 PM
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(2 years LOTS of money and 0 sex). 3-4 dates max, no sex, you move on... you should be dating multiple girls.... and if one doesn't do what you want.. you just naturally drop her off the rotation and she gets replaced with someone else... putting all of your eggs in one basket can lead to disaster ​ she used the fuck out of me after I gave her all I got You let her use you...if you walk out on the street and start handing out $100 bills to homeless people, they will take it.. its on you for givi…
/r/seduction09/11/20 06:42 PM
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I wasn't suggesting that, sorry if it came off that way. You came on the board asking whether it was BS, so I was attempting to show you how in the future you could more quickly get to the truth... No matter what their response is, you can still run away without investing any more energy. It would take less time and be more accurate to ask 'revealing' questions to gauge their true intentions, rather than post on reddit and come up with hypothetical answers....unless your real reason on being her…
/r/seduction09/11/20 06:10 PM
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A guy I once dated told me that he's only ever good at seducing a girl, but down the line he doesn't really know how to nurture and sustain a healthy relationship, even with a girl he really likes. I have been reflecting on this and I think it was bs. Maybe he was attempting to show vulnerability... I would have followed up with "Why do you think that?" .. or "That's okay, I can help you work on keeping me interested :)" -B
/r/seduction09/11/20 05:48 AM
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We trade back another few quips about the store then I just put my head back down and get to shopping. Another escalation opportunity lost. Try to escalate to personal stories... "This reminds me of another store that I was in when I was travelling in Costa Rica... <insert story about store or cool place or both>..... do you like to travel? Where's your favorite place? " Escalate to making personal observations: "Wow, you seem pretty adventurous" ... I try a healthy mix of building comfort, flir…
/r/seduction09/11/20 05:32 AM
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Problem is the girl also knows the same people in college, it is bound that she will ask about me with them. what are the chances? There is some percentage chance that she will ask, and if so, some percent chance that people will remember you, and from those, some percentage chance that those people will give a negative opinion of you.. but unlikely if they were your friends, and some percentage chance that this will affect her and/or sway her away from whatever image she has already formed abou…
/r/seduction09/11/20 05:21 AM
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I buy gifts as a reward :) or just to make them happy, NEVER to try to get anything out of it... -B
/r/seduction07/11/20 03:40 AM
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I don’t mind if she has a different political opinion The problem is that while you don't mind, she will. Politics has been extremely polarized and there are very few people now that can discuss opposing political views without being angry at the other person's different views. If politics, religion, agreeing who pays for meals, child rearing strategies, wealth, etc... are very important subjects for you, I would put them in your profile or discuss them BEFORE a date... why waste time? You're no…
/r/seduction06/11/20 10:57 PM
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I’ve always felt pathetic about my obsession with her but I couldn’t help it. Just remember, there are more than 3 billion men on earth at the moment, and aside from the 5 or 10 bf's she's had... the rest of the 2.999999999 billion men are doing okay with never having met and never having dated your X, including your close friends. They are not at home feeling sad or upset about her. Try to picture yourself as one of those men... -B
/r/seduction06/11/20 10:47 PM
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Congrats on making it this far, and also on figuring out your sticking points. Prior to the last 3 months, did all of the girls run away after kissing them? If so, perhaps it is your technique, or your follow-up afterwards, or the lead-up.. i.e. the kiss was very unexpected... Usually when I kiss a girl, I try to do a light kiss at first, and employ some of these things... i break away, and then stare at her eyes, and go back for a deeper kiss.. I break away and do eskimo kiss..look into her eye…
/r/seduction05/11/20 07:53 PM
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​ "Do you think over a 100 years ago, guys, men, needed a dating coach for help in order to meet and attract women? Oh Hell No, this need for assistance and help has only emerged very recently". "NEED" is a relative term. The average number of sexual partners that a male has in their lifetime is approx 7. As a male in my 40's, this year alone, I have slept with 11 different women in their 20's and will probably close the year at ~13....and this is with the craziness of Covid. I can absolutely po…
/r/seduction31/10/20 11:48 PM
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I identify as straight I discovered my “ideal” type and it’s MB. I also found out that he is also gay. Be careful in thinking that the first person that you ever have sex with happens to be your 'ideal type'. I met a guy who had his first sexual experience ever at 30, and it was with a prostitute only because he could not find anyone else... he then went on to have sex with more than 100 prostitutes over a 15yr period... he is only now seeking more traditional relationships.. I met another guy i…
/r/seduction30/10/20 07:34 AM
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She had a weird feeling afterwards (burning sensation) and needed to leave so I took her back. I asked if we could do it again 1) It is not a good idea to plan future sexual events at the same time that a girl is telling you she has a burning sensation 2) You shouldn't 'ask' to do it again. You just slept with a girl, the assumption is that she DOES want to see you again unless she tells you otherwise... so you would make plans the same way as before the first date.... discuss logistics... at en…
/r/seduction30/10/20 05:08 AM
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How should I spend these next 10 days? Radio silence? Pics? You should continue to do what you have been doing up to this point, and also escalate if possible. Text -> Phone Call -> Video Chat. Continue comfort building and flirting. The longer you wait to meet a girl, the less chance you have of the girl being attracted to you IRL. This is because they have a mental model of you in their head which continues to get larger and diverges more and more from reality as time goes on... -B
/r/seduction29/10/20 01:18 AM
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Hi Hegemon1984; Thx for taking the time to post this...but I think it is good to point out that it is not necessary to select a style mutually exclusively.. A lot of guys start out with structured/red-pill game not because they are angry at women or want to manipulate them.. but because they are nerdy guys who have zero experience at ANY interaction and this provides a framework that they can relate to and understand.. its a step by step instruction book... and objectifying people as targets red…
/r/seduction27/10/20 02:59 AM
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In this case, if the date was unsuccessful, all you will have lost is some time (e.g. 2 hours) and few dollars to buy drinks ... that's all. Actually.. people that have this fear think much more is lost.. the loss of not having sex after, the loss of not having a relationship, the effort of having to go out and finding another girl to go out on a date with... the fear that they won't find someone else that is as pretty/sweet/whatever as this girl is (i.e. oneitis)... etc... While minimizing the …
/r/seduction25/10/20 08:27 PM
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when he wears cologne he has a better success rate Everything helps and completes one more piece of the puzzle, smell, clothes, posture, muscles, fat percentage, smile, hair style, whiteness and straightness of teeth...the more you are doing correctly.. the more a girl can find something that she is turned on by... Just don’t know what to look for. I have brought girls shopping with me and asked them their opinion.. -B
/r/seduction25/10/20 08:05 PM
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However I find myself still sometimes struggling with the really beautiful women. They still have this power over me where I almost instantly disqualify myself Anyone else ever have this issue? Yes, I've had this issue after I got divorced and started approaching girls which were 15yrs younger than me.. it was initially difficult to still maintain the frame that I had more value when literally all of the guys are chasing them.. I was in bed with one girl and I asked her why she chose me, she ope…
/r/seduction25/10/20 06:53 AM
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I've spent the time studying by watching dating coaches and reading a few books. The consensus is that the number one thing that scares women off is needines Although there are many 'if she does this.. you should do this' scenarios which you can study so that you can make yourself APPEAR to seem not needy, they will never cover every situation, being truly non-needy is an internal framework that comes with the understanding that you are the prize and there is an abundance of girls to choose from…
/r/seduction25/10/20 06:39 AM
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I just want either us to go forward, or at least let her know what she did was wrong. What about what you did wrong? You failed to keep her interested, and she ghosted you. She gave you a second opportunity months later, and you blew it again. You shouldn't tell her anything about what she did wrong because it will not lead to any positive results. In addition, you will also most likely not convince her, because she felt at the time that it was the right thing to do, and you will just end up lis…
/r/seduction25/10/20 05:59 AM
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When I was growing up, I had extreme interaction anxiety, to the point that even ordering a burger at a fast food place was an anxiety producing event... Then I had several jobs, telemarketing, door-to-door vacuum cleaner sales, etc... its interesting that when someone tells you what to do as part of a job, and you're 'just following orders', then anxiety is reduced drastically.... so I could see how having a coach changes the equation for you... Is there any way to get through this I used to ju…
/r/seduction23/10/20 06:44 PM
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It's great that porn has expanded your horizons, especially trying anal, and watching lesbian porn seems to be popular among girls who are straight... however one word of caution... what you see and get turned on in porn might not correspond to being turned on in real life. Case in point: One of the more extreme fetishes I had, was watching golden showers. I eventually got the courage (and the technique LOL : ) :) ) to have a girl agree for me to do this on her face...and surprisingly.... in rea…
/r/seduction23/10/20 02:10 AM
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been wanting to try giving a sexual joke or comment but I’m afraid of being seen as creepy I've had more success when its subtle or there is *some* ounce of plausible deniability... for example.. today I was talking to a gymnast who was thinking of quitting, I pivoted to flexibility.. and at some point told her I could 'help her with her stretches.. and really stretch her out'... there was a good reaction.. but if it was bad.. I would have playfully accused her of having a dirty mind while I'm j…
/r/seduction21/10/20 05:39 AM
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Then i asked where she was from "Where are you from, what do you do, how are you doing, hey, whats up" BORING!! this is what every guy texts her all of the time.... ask interesting/unique questions... follow up with some emotion/passion about something.... playfully call her out on some lame pic...anything that piques her interest.... ​ I typed not that good because i am sick. Unless she happens to be your doctor, why would you text that? What is the purpose of texting? (DHV, comfort, flirting, …
/r/seduction20/10/20 09:15 PM
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MASKS!!! Cold approaching with a mask on at stores, coffee shops, etc.. is super weird and awkward.... they are more guarded since they can't see your face.. and since you can't see the expression on their faces, this makes game extremely more difficult... ugh... I've tried ignoring the elephant in the room.. I've tried making commentary on the situation... I've tried making jokes... I've tried games (i.e. I show you mine, you show me yours.. like in elementary school...lol)... but at the end of…
/r/seduction19/10/20 09:46 PM
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i dont know why masf board went... That was better than any of the guys teaching OMG....So many good stories and techniques there, brings back fond memories.... today's materials and discussions are all extremely watered down to minimize the chance of anyone getting offended... -B
/r/seduction18/10/20 06:49 AM
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Is it a waste of time talking and flirting with girls on an online game ? I wouldn't play the game just to chat, but if you are already playing, then its always good practice. I know I can probably never meet as they usually never even live in same country as me In the early days of online dating, I sorted the list of girls by who was currently online in the country...and there weren't that many users lol... I ended up talking to a girl in California, while I was in Florida.. I escalated to the …
/r/seduction18/10/20 01:41 AM
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Using "pull-push technique" is considered as manipulation? I'm curious, what are you going to do with the results of your unscientific poll here? The guys that do these things are going to justify it and tell you that girls are manipulative as well, the other ones will tell you its wrong and that they are above these things... mostly likely even call you some names... Instead of sailing to the random direction of the wind.. you should consider whether the ends justify the means... Are you going …
/r/seduction18/10/20 01:30 AM
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Me “hi” Her “hi do I know you?” Me “no but you could” Another option is to ignore the question and continue with the opener. Observe how smoothly politicians do this all the time. -B
/r/seduction17/10/20 09:45 PM
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Why doesn't a woman have to be confident and insecurity free? Because that's not what men are primarily attracted to when seeking out females. How can I get over the inequalities and double standards in favour of women in dating? By understanding that women have their own set of problems to deal with in the dating world that *might* be more difficult than men... a small sample to ponder... 1) One of the things that women value more is status/wealth, i.e. they don't date/marry down.. Today, on av…
/r/seduction17/10/20 07:46 AM
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2 weeks passed by and she wrote a message saying that she was thinking about me, that she passed through a lot and that she dissapeard from everybodys life. A shit test is something a girl typically tells you at the moment, not behavior that lasts for weeks. She was either going through something... or most likely had second thoughts about you, but either way it was resolved... I would pretend like nothing happened... -B
/r/seduction17/10/20 06:40 AM
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Nah bro. I've been randomly insulted and harshly put down dozens of times in my life. It's very real and super common if you're ugly. You might or might not be ugly, no one here knows for sure.. but it IS TRUE that girls generally don't put men down this directly or harshly... they are usually uncomfortable and apologetic and try to nicely say 'no thank you'.. or even lie and say 'i have a boyfriend' when they don't don't.. they try to avoid confrontation because you are doing something very vul…
/r/seduction15/10/20 06:07 AM
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But we forget that even tens have down weeks or even months. Maybe their ex just cheated on them and left them. Maybe they are just feeling a bit depressed. This is soooo true.... many times I've texted and called 'half' interested girls for days or weeks, and boom, all of a sudden, they are interested in meeting up.. i didn't say anything clever or funny right before.. but it was a change in THEIR situation... usually I don't know until after the fact.. we meet up.. have sex.. and then they men…
/r/seduction15/10/20 05:55 AM
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“thanks to white males” I once had a girl actually say this to me... I stopped what I was doing.. slowly turned my head, and I looked at her puzzingly/disapprovingly straight in the eyes, staring.. I didn't say a word..... and she stops mid sentence and yells ' Well Not You!, you're different, I meant the average white guys blah blah blah' ... I think there is some sort of red line that you cannot allow to be crossed because you will look like a complete white knight tool... or “toxic patriarchy…
/r/seduction15/10/20 05:35 AM
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A real pick up artist would get the hint, and pick up on the vibe, so this is more of a wannabe. If you're not afraid of physical violence, I would make fun of him... whatever it is that turns you off so much, focus on that... physical appearance, intelligence , wealth, status.. or just generic stuff.. some examples.. 1) Him: *Some lame pickup line* You: 'Why would you ever think that I'd want to be your first?' Him: ' My first? I'm not a virgin' You: 'Bullshit, your'e so gross and disgusting, I…
/r/seduction15/10/20 04:42 AM
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I'm a kissless Virgin...maybe because I didn't share myself with the world enough Kissing and having sex with a girl is a process, and there is probably not just *one* thing that you are doing wrong or poorly.... and if by any chance it did come down to one last thing, it would not be lack of a social media presence. Let's look at the links in the chain... Do you approach a sufficient number of girls per day? For those, do you have a good opener and can stay in the conversation for a good length…
/r/seduction15/10/20 04:15 AM
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Do older men typically have the guts to approach younger women or do they get scared I was married for 10yrs, now I'm in getting up there as well. I initially didn't have any problems approaching 20 year olds, but had a different problem. After I slept with them, I became quickly infatuated, something that never occurred prior to being married. In the earlier years, I had a strong inner frame that I always had more value than the girl, but after divorce, when there is a 15yr or more age gap, it …
/r/seduction13/10/20 11:37 PM
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I'm just curious, what approach would you recommend in scenarios like this? You ignore the previous relationship, like it didn't happen. Originally my thinking was just that i need to communicate to her that i'm of higher value than this "soulmate", then she would come around eventually No, you shouldn't communicate any of that to her. This comes off as very needy, 'look at me' type of behavior. Now, i know this other guy. He actually ran from the relationship because he was too afraid to get cl…
/r/seduction12/10/20 07:58 PM
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You say worrying about it won't help but then you say women expect experience so I should be worried? Also, I'm not 'waiting', if I could have I would have lost my virginity at 16, I just haven't met any women who was interested thus far. Instead of worrying, you should take action. Worrying does not produce any results, only anxiety. ​ And yes, that's the part of the chain that I'm struggling at, finding a girl who is actually interested in me. How can I improve in this area? So let's start at …
/r/seduction10/10/20 05:57 PM
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I get #s but sometimes I get the ig or snap. Snap can be okay if they are too shy or scared to give out #, but everything else is crap, they are just building followers. So I say "Hey, whats up?" Which she ignored 'What's up' or 'how was your day' and a few others are what girls see from 95% of guys and it becomes very boring/annoying very fast.. be more creative.. -B
/r/seduction10/10/20 07:16 AM
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Wow, 2% rate is very low... it should be somewhere between 25-50% . Either very weak text game, or not building enough comfort/attraction before you get the number. Figuring this out it going to take far longer than it did to work out your opening and closing strategy. It's not too bad. Try to elicit some values, share some emotional stories that show you have the same values (if you do). Combination of flirting and building comfort works best. DHV over time.. ... Don't double or triple text. Do…
/r/seduction10/10/20 07:10 AM
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Well 5 years later, I'm 23 and in the same boat Do I still have plenty of time or should I start to worry now? Whether in business, relationships, the gym, or your health, the first step is recognizing that you have a problem, which you have done, but worrying about it doesn't really help. The next step is to figure out specifically what the issue or set of issues are, and attempt to address and correct them... In the case of dating a girl, it is a process of selecting, approaching/matching, con…
/r/seduction10/10/20 04:51 AM
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Worried about being asked about the age, You can re-frame when asked and say. "Why, are you worried that you're not mature enough for me?" -B
/r/seduction09/10/20 05:17 AM
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she wouldn’t abort it Sometimes a girl will say that she would definitely abort it, but when it actually happens, they change their minds... so I wouldn't put to much stock into it either way... focus on trying to prevent it in the first place. Should I wear 2 condoms or what lol. Make sure to wear the condom properly and take it with you afterwards.. just like professional athletes and celebrities do :) -B
/r/seduction08/10/20 04:50 PM
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finally asked the question: “do you want to go on a date” Good lord, you are already hanging out with her, taking her to restaurants, and she is sending you bra pics. The next natural thing was to invite her to your place and escalate slowly.. and see how she reacts... Don't put girls on the spot, by asking them questions like going on dates, asking them to kiss you, asking them if they want to be your girlfriend... etc... it makes them uncomfortable because you are asking them to 'commit' to so…
/r/seduction07/10/20 06:29 AM
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That’s incredibly sexist A girl can also choose not continue dating a guy based on the criteria that they slept together on the first night, can't she? I don't think its one sided... While I agree with you in principle that it might be poor judgement to discount a girl just because she slept with someone on the first night... I don't think its a good idea to impose or shame (through name calling) your particular criteria onto others. People have all sorts of crazy criteria and whatever is flawed…
/r/seduction06/10/20 07:09 PM
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Having sex helps them become heavily invested in you, YES THIS. It is also the 'rationalization hamster' at work. If you had sex, then she rationalizes it to 'because I really must have liked you', and when it didn't happen, then the rationalization is that 'well I guess I wasn't that into you' -B
/r/seduction05/10/20 06:36 PM
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dont spend a lot of money because she can ghost after the date. Women pride themselves in getting free meals from men and dipping. Be pessimistic On one of my recent second dates, I took a girl on a two day trip to the beach with a hotel, dining, etc. This is the thing though.... I didn't do it for her, I did it for myself. I enjoy eating good food, I enjoy renting a set of jet skiis and having fun, I enjoy opening the window at night and listening to the sound of the waves, etc... Scoring that …
/r/seduction04/10/20 02:17 AM
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She prolly blocked you so her boyfriend didn't find out she wanted to swallow some other dudes dick YES THIS! -B
/r/seduction04/10/20 02:02 AM
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You should watch a movie called "40 yr old Virgin". Seriously though, you can see a legal prostitute in brothels outside of Las Vegas, or many places abroad, or an illegal one pretty much everywhere else in the US. I've noticed they hang around on tinder, if they give their snap, that's a big hint. I have been a hermit for half a decade now with no social contact besides my parents and occasionally a few others That's your bigger problem. Get some hobbies, join some clubs, hang out with people. …
/r/seduction04/10/20 01:59 AM
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If I ever write a book on pickup, can I have your permission to use your story as an example of what not to say? -B
/r/seduction04/10/20 01:51 AM
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i want to put in work to stop being a ..... for attention and likes. The first step in stopping yourself from doing things for attention is to stop posting the same 'no girl likes me, I have no friends' post on every subredit from dating to advice to here.... i hate being a r/niceguys and i seriously want to change What do you think is preventing you from making these changes? The willpower to do it, or you don't have the skill to do it? You might think it was skills, but what if I told you that…
/r/seduction03/10/20 12:42 AM
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They start to wake up after college, and realize it's not always a free ride. So true! Sometimes even before..if they get fucked over too many times.. Also, there are more females enrolled in college than males, so they must compete much more than in the past. The solution is as you get older, continue to date girls in college :) -B
/r/seduction01/10/20 04:47 PM
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Everything I know about what makes a guy attractive this guy isn't and he is nailing a bombshell. It's entirely possible that the bombshell got screwed over by too many alphas, and wanted to try a safe beta that isn't going to ghost her the first or second time after sex. -B
/r/seduction30/09/20 02:02 AM
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social media is a manservant for women worldwide, it really got me thinkin. In my life I always found it was better to figure out how all the gears spin behind the curtain, and then leverage and use this to my advantage, instead of lamenting on the current state of affairs.... Trust me, you will have a much happier life :) ​ social media has respectively turned our women into these narcissistic characters No, it has "exposed" them, not "turned" them. But remember when you live by the 'like', you…
/r/seduction30/09/20 01:49 AM
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Get a new phone number and a new phone. Also, transpose your pictures (re-size, crop a little, mirror image, etc.) or better yet just use new ones. Do not connect your phone to the same wifi spots that your old phone connected to, turn off wifi and use cell phone data if possible. -B
/r/seduction30/09/20 01:38 AM
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Cocky comedy Ahh!! Old school, I love it.. brings back memories... David DeAngelo AKA Eben Pagan has now moved on to Business consulting.. but his material remains very relevant Here are different types of flirting from another coach: 1- Teasing 2 - Role Reversal 3 - Role Playing 4 - Touching 5 - Flirt with your eyes,look of desire 6- PUSH- PULL - i.e. I like you but i'm not sure about you yet.. Cocky comedy for the most part incorporates teasing with a great internal frame... an excellent intro…
/r/seduction29/09/20 11:11 PM
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I feel like im a needy jackass and I hate that feeling so how do i go on from here? Its good that you recognize your behaviour.. the solution though is not to focus on how to resolve the immediate issue with this girl (which as an aside, is to back off, and then send DHV texts sparingly), but how you stop yourself from having that feeling in the first place, which is called oneitis... and yes.. you have it.. Unfortunately, the only solution is to be with other girls...I had to personally learn t…
/r/seduction29/09/20 10:54 PM
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But in this current world we live in , do y’all men believe mariage will bring any sort of benefits ? The construct of marriage is a very un-natural thing, which is why after a few years, you have to "work on the marriage" to keep it going... I always fanatisiez about being married ! If you want to save yourself a lot of emotional heartache, the easiest way to experience marriage is to pick a girl you really hate, and give her half of your stuff -B
/r/seduction29/09/20 06:17 AM
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Through 4 years of highschool I was a kiss less virgin as a ugly dude then 2 weeks into college I’d already fucked atleast 10 different girls I call bullshit.. I highly doubt you had sex with 10 girls in college in 2 weeks.. Also... https://www.reddit.com/r/foreskin_restoration/comments/iw6c41/148_years_old_circumcised_how_do_i_restore/ In this post you claim that you are 14yrs old... Case closed. -B
/r/seduction26/09/20 07:42 PM
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How's girls criticizing PUA a good thing for men who're trying to get laid? Because it helps to prevent it from becoming mainstream.. which prevents it from losing some of its effectiveness... -B
/r/seduction26/09/20 07:28 PM
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I think it has less to do about whether girls believe the training is manipulative or confidence building, and more to do with real and/or perceived loss of power in the mating game..... ... if your power structure is being attacked.. you have a self interest and will find reasons to defend it Girls criticizing PUA is a good thing for you BTW.. whether its PUA techniques or marketing techniques or anything else, they become less effective the more we are exposed to them. -B
/r/seduction26/09/20 01:09 AM
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What are some other things I can say to women just walking by After getting their attention, you can be indirect {ask a question (e.g when is the train coming), make an observation on the situation, make a compliment(e.g. that's a really unique XYZ you're wearing), ask for an opinion (i.e. I need a female opinion on something...) } , or be direct and say (I saw you from over there and just had to say hi to you... etc. ) related to fear of humiliation/embarrassment Think of it like a video game. …
/r/seduction25/09/20 01:24 AM
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No, people that are 'just friends' don't usually wink at you. -B
/r/seduction24/09/20 03:12 AM
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She also never seems to ask me a question back after I've asked her a complex question as in what music are you currently streaming on repeat Move past surface questions and ask deep personal/emotional questions. Should I wait for her to ask me intresting questions back or should I move on? Neither. You should escalate. Flirt, get her number and move off of tinder if you haven't already done so. Text, call, set up a date. Don't let dry texting throw you off. Some girls are very bad at texting, b…
/r/seduction24/09/20 03:00 AM
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Asked her if we could maybe hang out something as I found her interesting and fun Have stronger frame next time, 'maybe hang out' sounds weak.. also make it more casual next time...."Hey I'm doing XYZ tomorrow, you're welcome to join me. " ...or you could just try some canned material :) Her: “I have a boyfriend” You: “Would he be mad that I’m hitting on you?” Her: “Well yeah” You: “Well it sounds like you need a new boyfriend” Her: “I have a boyfriend” You: “I have a math test” Her: “huh? So?” …
/r/seduction24/09/20 02:44 AM
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then I asked her if she still wants to still see me Why did you ask her this in the first place? Many times, a girl doesn't know how she feels initially and is just trying to figure things out.. when you ask, you are putting her on the spot to commit to you when she's not ready to...so she has to refuse.. it also shows that you have a weak frame because you are seeking her approval of you which reduces attraction... you should always be under the assumption that she likes you and wants to be wit…
/r/seduction20/09/20 08:35 PM
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Don't forget, having a job like doctor or CEO is also VERY effective... LOL -B
/r/seduction20/09/20 08:20 PM
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The level of difficulty in accomplishing this will be dependent on how long she has seen you as low value. If you just met her one time, you can re-frame the situation fairly easy during the next interaction, but if she has known you for a long time and friend zoned you already, then it will be extremely difficult, if not outright impossible. -B
/r/seduction20/09/20 08:16 PM
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I needed this. Thanks man Anytime dude, stay strong :) -B
/r/seduction20/09/20 08:11 PM
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In PUA innergame theory, one of the goals is to attain the frame that you are the prize. The first 4 paragraphs of your post provides a concrete example of how this theoretical concept can be physically applied, because it frames you as the selector(prize) giving value($500K) instead of seeking/taking it.... Excellent, I love it !!! -B
/r/seduction20/09/20 03:11 AM
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Every where I go I see men who are taller, more muscular, more stylish than I am Do you ever see men that are shorter, less muscular, less stylish, older, fatter, than you? In a world of 4 billion males, there are always going to be billions better and worse off than you... so what??? What chance do I have when girls would pick these guys over me any day A classic mistake that guys make is that we value looks as the single or most important thing, therefore we assume girls are the same, but they…
/r/seduction20/09/20 02:40 AM
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A while back I was able to make my inner game very strong, shouldve had a ton of top quality girls chasing me. But that wasnt the case Complaining that not enough quality girls were interested is proof that you didn't have strong inner game, because you shouldn't have cared so much about the outcome... after all.. its their loss not yours right?? Innergame is something that YOU ARE, not something that YOU DO. -B
/r/seduction20/09/20 02:18 AM
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There is no doubt that being a woman in the current dating market is hideously advantegous That's only when looking at it from a man's point of view, in wanting to hook-up, then yes, women have it easier, but they also have problems with finding what they are actually looking for..... -B
/r/seduction18/09/20 07:25 PM
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The girl seems more “proper” (not the best word lol) but doesn’t rlly give off any signals like that, and thus I just dont even bother making moves. Do you guys always try to make moves no matter what? It's difficult to tell what the girl is feeling if she doesn't give off ANY signals. You know what to do with positive and negative signals, but in the case of NO signal, if you are feeling it, I think its your job as a man to make the first small move and see what their reaction is. Some girls ar…
/r/seduction17/09/20 11:12 PM
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This immediately reminded me of an exchange from Seinfeld: Elaine: Well, the female body is a... work of art. The male body is utilitarian, it's for gettin' around, like a jeep. Jerry: So you don't think it's attractive? Elaine: It's hideous. The hair, the... the lumpiness. It's simian. George: Well, some women like it. Elaine: Mmm. Sickies. ​ I'm trying to comprehend your post since its demonstratively false, perhaps you are upset because you have not been as successful as you would have liked …
/r/seduction17/09/20 10:59 PM
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Now, how long should I wait before texting her to meet again? You should establish the second date during the end of the first date if everything is going well.. Second, you should text the girl an hr or two after the date and say 'Hey I had a great time with you tonight, I hope you made it home safe' .. or something to that effect -B
/r/seduction17/09/20 10:38 PM
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I no longer find dates exciting. They feel draining. They feel forced. The last time I enjoyed being with a girl was three years ago... You need to figure out what has changed. Is your expectation of the outcome of the date different from what it was 3yrs ago? Are the girls you're dating now different from 3yrs ago? Do you feel they have different expectations of you? Have you been on too many dates where nothing progressed/advanced beyond the first date? Are you depressed about life in general …
/r/seduction17/09/20 08:08 PM
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She won't respond until I say something along the lines of "Hey, I need to know by (time) if you're interested, It seems you trained her to only respond when you give her an ultimatum. Next time, invite her somewhere, but don't give the ultimatum. Most likely she won't respond/follow-up, invite another girl and do that thing with girl2 instead. Afterwards when you talk again, if the previous event comes up, tell her you had a great time, and *casually* mention you took girl2, check for response.…
/r/seduction17/09/20 08:00 PM
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I am now afraid of asking women on dates since I feel they might find out I was a nerd and leave me for someone who has a wide social circle due to being a popular athlete or musician in college..... Woah... One step a time... you don't have to worry about girls leaving you when you haven't formed a relationship yet... the fact is some girls even leave or cheat on guys that ARE popular athletes or musicians... Her probability to leave you isn't dependent on your profession or social standing bec…
/r/seduction17/09/20 07:45 PM
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Has anyone dealt with this and overcame it? What are your suggestions? You need to have other goals in your life other than girls and those goals should take precedence even when you are dating. Focus on things you are passionate about and self improvement. I just feel so unhappy without a partner! Because you derive your happiness from the validation that you get from your partner. Seek it from within.. -B
/r/seduction17/09/20 07:32 PM
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How many of your cold approaches are successful? If you define success as either a close or a learning lesson, then arguably all of them. The great thing about cold approach is that you always get feedback, unlike online where you send your painstakingly uniquely crafted message and get no response.. How much percent of your cold approaches do work and how much dont? One guy's close rate percentage compared to another one's isn't going to be meaningful because aside from one guy's game being bet…
/r/seduction17/09/20 03:53 AM
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we have been talking for ages she sent me a text saying that she just wants to be friends The more that you talk to someone before meeting them the first time, the more they build up a divergent mental picture of you in their head, which doesn't match when you finally meet. Sometimes girls will go with the flow and give you a chance to overcome this, but many times the feelings for the mental image just can't cross over to the real you. That's why its best to try to meet IRL as soon possible. -B
/r/seduction17/09/20 12:16 AM
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she always told me she prefers long term relationships and wants a guy who she loves. Then I discovered that she has two guys she is seeing in a FWB arrangement This should be a valuable lesson for you that what a girl says that she wants, and what she is attracted to, are to VERY DIFFERENT things... -B
/r/seduction16/09/20 03:27 AM
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How do you go about asking your girl for nudes? 1) Go slow... start with panties and bras shots.. then topless, then full nude, then spread eagle and/or whatever you're into... don't ask for it all at once.... wait a week and escalate... ..eg. 'remember that bra shot you sent me? I'm still thinking about it.. you should send me some blahahaha...' if you're taking pics in person.. escalate all at once.. take a few pics and tell her to take something off... complement her, then more... I find the …
/r/seduction16/09/20 03:14 AM
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specifically Eastern Europe are much more feminine and more ideal for marriage Yes but I think this is somewhat non-relevant because if you plan on marrying her and bringing her to the US, she will be saturated with american culture and conform to it eventually... -B
/r/seduction16/09/20 02:59 AM
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but I guess I don’t know what to say to attract a girl or get her attention You say hi or wave or look at her and smile to get her attention. Then you need an opener (asking her opinion, complementing her on some unique thing, asking for help like getting directions or last week's homework, commenting on something situational, etc.... ) ....then keep it going... to attract, what works for me is some combination of building comfort (story telling, making observations and/or trueisms about her), a…
/r/seduction16/09/20 02:42 AM
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If you're not doing anything, you should go to dinner and flirt with her, use it as a training exercise for the future/next girl... Also, remember , "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" -B
/r/seduction16/09/20 01:58 AM
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Why would you say that geeks are of low value? I would say that they are *perceived* low value in the eyes of many girls because they typically lack social intelligence/awareness, and they lack confidence. Geeks usually have one thing that no Chad will have: brains. Looking at the world through the lens of an incel mindset can be very toxic. -B
/r/seduction15/09/20 06:22 PM
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I follow up a couple weeks later about going on a trip and she says she's busy and she asks if this would be with other friends You didn't make your intentions clear when you asked her out.. ​ I reply that I just wanted it to be just us two. She then replies that she doesn't think this is a great idea and it's not something she does with male friends. Total rejection. That's one interpretation, perhaps she wanted you to clarify and tell her that you're open to the idea of being more than friends…
/r/seduction15/09/20 07:00 AM
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Yes, myself first year in college. I was the ultimate computer geek in both looks (big glasses, no fashion, very skinny) and personality (very logical no feeling), and I dated a cheerleader who was also also a sorority sister, good looking, double D breasts, slim waist. Everywhere I went out with her, and double-so in bars, and the beach, guys would give me the look like 'how the fuck did you end up with her?' .... looking back I attribute it to 3 things 1) Her father was also a computer science…
/r/seduction15/09/20 06:33 AM
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Classic case of oneitis.. and you know what the cure is... go sleep with 5 or 10 more girls and then come back and evaluate how much you really like her...tried and tested :) .. works every time... The thing with girls is that in the PUA community most people shallowly rate girls on a one dimensional looks scale.. as if there wasn't any other worthwhile attributes.. but even on looks.. there is (prettiness, cuteness, height, breast size, butt size, skin tone, hip to waist.. etc..) .. then of cou…
/r/seduction14/09/20 04:45 PM
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I don't think you know what the word 'predatory' means. In either case, this is r/seduction not r/morality .. it's not necessary and not welcome for you to self impose and spew your morality on the rest of us. The purpose of this forum is to get advice on how to get better. . and to have fun, not to walk around as the bitter morality police. I already knew before I submitted the post that it would be downvoted by people like you but I wrote it anyway because the chance it would help some people …
/r/seduction13/09/20 08:12 PM
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So far from what I have gathered you need a good ripped body, wealth, and charisma. They all help and can all be developed over time and/or faked... When I started online dating 15yrs ago, one of my experiments was that I pasted my head into a ripped guy's body... By the time we talked on the phone, went on dates, and finally took my shirt off when I got into bed with her, no girl ever mentioned it... But can you get laid just from cold approach alone? Of course, but the degree of your success i…
/r/seduction13/09/20 04:37 PM
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Girls are going through gold digger stages rn 1000% Yes!!! -B
/r/seduction13/09/20 04:26 PM
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Yes, to the cringiest song of the 80's Regarding teasing, never tease girls on looks, weight or height...The best is if she says something goofy/funny/stupid you can call her out on that and you can both have a good laugh.. The most important thing is being playful and not serious... and looking like an asshole ? Sometimes they may call you an asshole... then I just call them out on the fact that they are attracted to guys that are assholes ... and ask them what's wrong with them.. tell them the…
/r/seduction13/09/20 04:18 PM
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a girl says "your hair is out of fashion" and then you say.. "yes, that works out well for you" Girl: (confused) "Why is that ?" Guy: Because if I kept up more with current trends, I would be out of your league lol ​ You're the prize .. and you don't validate her shit tests... That's frame control :) ​ -B
/r/seduction13/09/20 04:04 PM
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What the hell does that supposed to mean? It was a shit test.. you should have sarcastically said ' Yeah, she's hot, do you think you could put in a good word for me?' and I don't know where this is going? With you doing her if you don't mess it up lol -B
/r/seduction11/09/20 09:50 PM
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So no, don't be yourself. You can do better. The question is, what is 'yourself'? Yourself could be 'a guy that will do whatever it takes to learn and master PUA techniques'... Instead of trying to run away from yourself, understand that 'yourself' is not bound to what you were in the past. -B
/r/seduction11/09/20 09:35 PM
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I would love to overcome this any tips ? Think of it like a video game. You advance to the next level, or hit reset and try again.. Do you care what others think when they watch you play xbox? hesitating to approach because of what others will think ? Also.. are you talking about random people that you don't know? ..and you will never meet again? These are like the computer generated non-playable characters walking around in the video game...do you care what they think? Personal story... I was b…
/r/seduction11/09/20 06:07 AM
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I see how popular she is and immediately realize "wow this girl has 2,000 followers, she probably has countless guys hitting her up every day. What value does playing creepy detective provide? It seems there is no upside.. if she has many followers, you lose your confidence.. and if you find one that has no friends.. you might feel that you're dating a loser But really.. who cares? .. I've had a few situations where girls have showed me their tinder accounts.. hundreds of matches.. one had so ma…
/r/seduction11/09/20 04:59 AM
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Exchange was good, but let her tell you whether she's free or not, don't ask or bring it up again. You should continue to text and flirt sparingly though. The second date logistics should be done when you're on the first date.. usually near the end.. If you don't hear back from her, it could mean that she's prioritizing school work over you.. not the end of the world.. wait a few more days and hit her up again.... -B
/r/seduction11/09/20 04:22 AM
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It depends on the attractiveness/experience level of the guy...and how far off your SMV is to his... For the majority of guys (average looks) and/or close SMV, its mostly just logistics (showing up), and flirting. For guys who are very attractive and/or much higher SMV than you, you will either need to employ game tactics or show him why you're unique (i.e. validate). If you ask a particular guy what he's looking for in a girl, what they tell you will actually correlate very strongly to what the…
/r/seduction09/09/20 06:38 AM
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Escorts/prostitutes/sugar babies/etc... are all great for sex, and building confidence.. but NOT for relationships. Real relationships can only be built with someone that likes you and/or cares for you, not by people who are literally being paid to spend time and listen to you. How could you ever be sure that anything positive they say or do could is genuine? If you do decide to take this route, get a different one each time so that you build confidence in being around girls, and that you do not…
/r/seduction09/09/20 05:57 AM
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Those aren't the only 2 options. #3 Get back on her radar. DHV -> Talk, flirt, text, once in a while. See what response you get. Eventually, tell her you're doing something cool (Whatever that is), and she can join you if she wants.. do this a few times... ask her for opinion.. like you're meeting a few friends and need her opinion on what to wear, one of your friends is bringing a girl that likes you but you're not sure if you feel the same way.... etc... -B
/r/seduction07/09/20 07:58 PM
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How do make her feel comfortable? 1) Don't put moves on her every single time your'e in bed. Make out with her and stop, cuddle with her, go to sleep 2) Go one step at a time, not all the way to sex. One time, play with her tits and suck on them, then stop. Another time, play with her pussy, then stop... Yes.. I know, this requires more time and energy... but so does finding a new girl and getting to this exact point in bed as well... so the question isn't whether its worth it to put in the time…
/r/seduction07/09/20 07:43 PM
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Great response :) I haven't laughed on this sub in a while... ​ Y’all just found patient females in need of a good lay that don’t want to hurt your ego. Is pity sex a real thing? It's never been my style and everything I know suggests that it couldn't/shouldn't work.. -B
/r/seduction07/09/20 05:34 AM
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Do Pick-Up Artist Techniques Work ? Yes it only opens new opportunity and increases your chances of meeting new women that are already attracted to you No. Girls and guys don't work the same way. As guys, we know whether we are attracted to a girl in half a second. Girls often are more neutral and don't know whether they like a guy until after speaking with him, and seeing his other traits.. =B
/r/seduction07/09/20 05:22 AM
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does sleeping on the first date completely ruin the relationship? No, it creates a partial foundation for one. -B
/r/seduction07/09/20 05:14 AM
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You should not swipe right more than 90% or tinder will punish you by not appearing in other girls decks... so if this could be one filter you employ > What i'm suggesting is that we take back some power The tinder game is interesting. The top 5% of the guys on tinder get together with 99% of the girls. They have so many girls that none of them want a relationship so eventually most of the girls get tired of just being used and give up.. meanwhile 95% of the guys give up because they have close …
/r/seduction07/09/20 05:08 AM
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So I asked out a friend of mine and to my surprise she said yes and seemed enthusiastic about going on a date. You should have talked about logistics right then and there ..i.e. You: ... I'm free Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday? Do either of those work? Her: no You: Okay, when are you free? Her: not sure, will let you know.. You: ahh.. it's okay don't worry about it Her: I'm sorry, I'm just really busy You: Oh its cool, I'm busy too, it sounds like it will be tough for our schedules to coincide He…
/r/seduction07/09/20 04:57 AM
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This is the wrong question and is going to lead to two obvious answers from everyone here 1) Guys that learned pua AND scored with a lot of girls are going to tell you that it works 2) Everyone else is going to tell you that this is misogynistic behavior and you shouldn't do it. The real question is even if you were convinced that it worked, would you have the balls and the skill to actually pull it off? Think about this very carefully, because something as large as this is less of external game…
/r/seduction04/09/20 01:46 AM
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Being scared is normal, it would be strange if you weren't. You're about to make a big life decision with many unknowns. Don't turn away from the fear though, feel it and try to understand. List and write down as many of the unknowns that you can think of, and then you can start thinking about how you will address them, and the big scary blurry picture will get more into focus and not seem overwhelming. Some examples, when you tell your bf that its over, and he's crying and says "What can I do t…
/r/RedPillWomen02/09/20 06:50 PM
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It's not right because the passion is over...and it is never coming back.. and you know it. You have already made up your mind, you know that you have to leave, you only live once, and if you stay, you will regret the years you have wasted later, when you eventually do decide to leave...and you will decide it later.. trust me I believe that your true purpose of your post is not to help decide, but to seek comfort that its okay to leave and perhaps some coping mechanisms on how to rip the bandage…
/r/RedPillWomen02/09/20 03:36 PM
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So, how do I make the conversation sexy in a way that he wont think I'm going to far or make him uncomfortable? he never brings up the sex topic. Like, never You can bring it up slowly and see if he responds to anything, then escalate... obviously these things have to be in some current context..... "I need to turn up the heat, its cold in here and my nipples are getting firm". "I just put on a top and its see through, you can see my bra through it". "I have to go shopping, I haven't bought any …
/r/seduction04/04/20 08:23 PM
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Online, obviously -B
/r/seduction04/04/20 08:11 PM
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Coffee shops were good before Covid, now I invite them to a nearby park (still open in Florida, but YMMV). -B
/r/seduction04/04/20 08:10 PM
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In a relationship, there is always the chaser and the one getting chased. Can you guess which is the better role to be in? After you have slept with her, fall back to getting chased. That means that you initiate 25% of texts, calls, etc. That you are busy half the time for her but make some time available. It means that you have a mission in life, and that she can come join you.. not that you make her the main mission in life... etc.. What I find extremely effective is the roller coaster ride, w…
/r/seduction04/04/20 08:06 PM
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In your post, you describe negative experiences at school and work a lot, which leads me to suspect that perhaps you are depressed with life in general. This can definitely have an effect on your drive, and then consequently on getting it up. Without knowing much about your situation, here are some general recommendations: 1) Start a physical exercise routine. Focus on cardio, however also include leg strengthening like squats. That can literally increase your testosterone. Also exercise gives y…
/r/seduction04/04/20 07:56 PM
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This works sparingly because it makes the girl validate herself..assuming there is already *some* attraction.. sets the frame that she is chasing..etc.. Its not generally going to work all the time because if there are too many walls to climb, she will stop chasing and give up.. -B
/r/seduction30/03/20 11:11 PM
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Saying "you are so hot" and "I find your friend sexy" are things a Chump would do As with most things in pickup, there are exceptions to every rule. I think if you have a much higher SMV than the girl, you can definitely compliment her looks. For example, I have a friend who is very attracted to fat girls. They typically have low self esteem, and complimenting them seems to go very well for him. -B
/r/seduction27/03/20 06:46 AM
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Some men clearly want me to fall in love with them, and I can’t really figure out why. I do sugar dating so I thought that part of it could be that they needed to make sure their game was working on me For some men, its about collecting two trophies.. named sex and love. They purchased the sex trophy through sugar, so the 'love' trophy is the only one left. Once they have it, they dump you. For other guys, sugar dating offers a path to meet and form (potentially) real relationships with girls ha…
/r/seduction25/03/20 07:31 AM
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When things start to escalate, i become too enthusiastic. Please explain 'escalate' ​ Now my question is, is there a way to go back? No, life is not like the movie Groundhog day... luckily you can make many mistakes and recover.. in general, for most of these types of situations.. just pretend like nothing happened and keep going.. ​ Not only do i like this girl, but i love her so much. Be careful, this is starts getting into one-itis terrority.. you love a girl that doesn't know you exist? ​ Sh…
/r/seduction25/03/20 06:49 AM
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I want to know what experience you have with this technique if any and what were the results. It definitely works, however, to the degree that it will work is highly dependent on: 1) whether she is chasing you at the time or you are chasing her. The more she is chasing you already, the stronger it will be... It *can* still work if you are chasing her, because she will miss the attention, but you must calibrate when to stop ignoring much more carefully or risk her losing interest... btw... some c…
/r/seduction15/03/20 06:50 AM
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-we have been dating for 5 months That's a long time at that age... congrats!! Does anyone have advice for developing awareness of ques and hints no experience with seduction. The best way is to GO SLOW... Progress through steps and look for ques on whether she is into it .. steps below should be over a series of sessions... advance a little more each time and stop..next session, advance a little further... she should be happy, excited, kissing you back, etc... If you reach a step and there is h…
/r/seduction15/03/20 06:32 AM
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Texting her she said she wasn’t looking for anything Always Be Closing Tinder-> Closed by getting phone number Texting-> Closed by getting a date Coffee Date -> You should have closed by making plans for second date... or closed by insta-next date... "Hey I'm going to watch the xyz movie later on at my house, you want to come over?" is there anything I can do? Most likely its over, but there's low investment to try one more time... a) If you are doing something cool, invite her to join you... He…
/r/seduction15/03/20 05:27 AM
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But then again women don't really dissasociate with most nice guys, they often friendzone them, which begs the question why? Because nice guys aren't that nice.. they do *nice* things because they think their good deeds will be reciprocated by getting a date or sex... and girls see through this... but who doesn't like getting free stuff.. so why not friendzone them? So why do women fall in love with assholes? Because they're confident -B
/r/seduction14/03/20 10:43 PM
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Do ugly girls who you're not remotely attracted too ever game you into bed out of interest? Actually yes, one time, and it has been one of the most insightful recent female experiences that I have had in a very long time... Basically a girl from 15yrs ago, out of the blue, invited me to go see her in her city... she agreed to pay for the airplane ticket, she gave me some *not so* recent pics of herself... when I got there... I saw that her hair started turning grey, her skin got flabby, her face…
/r/seduction14/03/20 10:32 PM
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Just like if a girl approaches you, you know basically instantly if you are into her or not. Girls are the same. Girls are not the same. Guys rely much more more on purely physical looks alone, where girls are more complex and rely on a mix of looks, status, and personality (confidence, humor, etc.) ..this is why for example, female students are more likely to fall for their male professor, or a female secretary for their male boss, than vice-versa ... and this happens over time.. not in seconds…
/r/seduction14/03/20 10:12 PM
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WOW, what a good problem to have !!... you need to learn game... the great thing is you're already 90% there.. you approach girls and can carry some form of conversation... this is already better than most guys who just hang out, drink beer and stare I'm not going to write a 100 page tutorial.. but I'll give you some thoughts on what that I think will help you in particular I tell her shes attractive, shell smile or say im attractive too Comment on other things like her style, personality, etc..…
/r/seduction14/03/20 09:48 PM
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While we were still talking I sit down but she didnt sit down next to me and instead she took another seat. First of all, you let her get on the bus first and take a seat first (it's the gentlemanly thing to do :) ), then you sit next to her... Second option, if you are already seated first, you wave her over to sit next to you while she is still walking, don't let her decide on her own, she might be shy (or a million other reasons) to not sit next to you Third option, after you let her sit far …
/r/seduction14/03/20 09:24 PM
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There's another dynamic at play here. Girls in high school can *appear* hotter if they are extremely popular, and that fades away really fast after graduation.... because the importance of popularity ends after you get your diploma. -B
/r/seduction14/03/20 05:42 AM
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and I think they go for too long generally an 1.5 hours. When I met my second x-wife for the first time, we were supposed to go on a coffee date. I left her house 3 days later..only because I had already called in sick too many times and had to go back to work.... there is no such thing as a too long date I don't know how to escalate I alternate between building comfort (by sharing things in common between us.. morals, way of thinking, similiar interests..movies we like, both love animals...ANYT…
/r/seduction12/03/20 06:42 AM
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I was looking for conversational tips because I'm way too logical and rational, occasionally hitting emotional point Build up a portfolio of personal stories that you can tell.. and transform them to be a emotionally deeper/descriptive experience... for example Version A - Logical) I climbed the grand canyon on July, 1st 2010, it took seven hours, and I climbed back up the next day. It was a very challenging climb. Version B - Descriptive ) I climbed the grand canyon in the middle of summer, and…
/r/seduction12/03/20 05:36 AM
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I asked out another girl who I had been talking to for months I wasn't able to ask her out sophomore year so I waited until junior year. I think your biggest problem is waiting an extremely long time before asking a girl out... the girl put you in the friend zone a LONG time ago.... I remember when I was in college, and knew nothing about PUA or any community, just naturally, the DAY I started talking to the girl, at the end of the conversation, I got her number... then the phone game started to…
/r/seduction12/03/20 05:17 AM
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Hey guys, I am jealous of people in relationship or are getting laid The problem with jealousy is that it means you care more about other people than you care about yourself, and you should really care about yourself and love yourself the most. Consider learning that someone just got laid... how did it affect you exactly? You didn't get laid yesterday, and as a result of learning this, exactly nothing changed for YOU... you still didn't get laid today.. regardless of this new knowledge... but yo…
/r/seduction12/03/20 04:55 AM
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and I’m worried She won’t like me anymore You should be worried about whether YOU still like her after 5yrs...her appearance probably changed more than yours.....not in pics but in real life.... -B
/r/seduction09/03/20 06:33 AM
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So I haven't been sexually flirting, more like teasing which she responds well to Thats ok, its a good start Haven't told her I'm seeing other girls, would that be a good or bad move in this case? I know it sounds bad, but in my experience, it has ALWAYS been good... girls always get jealous directly or indirectly.. .and are more responsive and eager... In the past she seemed upset when I first got with my ex, said things like "but him & her don't even have (many things) in common" that me and h…
/r/seduction09/03/20 06:11 AM
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I've been trying to be a little more flirty when we text, How has she responded to this? Did she flirt back? seeing other girls How is her reaction to this? Does she appear to be more responsive when this is discussed? There has been a few signs she liked me in the past, Such as...? and plenty of friends have said we'd be good together, This is completely irrelevant. and tell her how I feel? This only works in romantic comedy movies, not in real life... a girl often doesn't know how she feels ab…
/r/seduction09/03/20 05:47 AM
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If there was a separate graph of 'What women sexually respond to', it would be fairly consistent ......in no particular order... 1) Wealth (current assets and future ability/prospects) 2) Looks (attractive face, age, muscles, fashion sense) 3) Confidence (& other personality traits such as intelligence, easy going, humor) The rest is non-sense -B
/r/seduction09/03/20 05:38 AM
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hey you are really cute and do you want some hand sanitizer so you can keep safe This is a twist on the 'pretend nice guy' offering to do something for a girl without asking for anything in return..... and girls see right through this... you're not giving the girl hand sanitizer to 'keep safe'.. you're giving it to her in the hope that you can have sex with her later..... In addition to this, anyone approaching and just giving anyone else something in public usually draws red flags because the r…
/r/seduction09/03/20 05:29 AM
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You'd think that women would prefer more direct indication that you fancy them What women 'prefer' and what they are 'sexually attracted to' are often different things... I've seen on AskWomen threads The lion doesn't ask the hyena on how best to kill it...
/r/seduction07/03/20 08:26 AM
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I figure she is used to guys that have huge confidence and experience who don't delay at all. Stop thinking about what she may or may not have done with other guys.. its completely irrelevant Anyway just want to know if there is a way to salvage this or if it's friend zone for sure. There's nothing to salvage.. you haven't done anything wrong yet... waiting to make a move can sometimes be beneficial as it increases the tension... Was thinking I would just tell her I'm interested and see if she w…
/r/seduction07/03/20 08:14 AM
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I don't want to be a just complaining BF and just tell her to be more often in the mood but rather work on my part in this. Definitely do not complain about this. It will just demonstrate low value, reduce attraction and hence reduce frequency further. ​ How could I get my GF to long for me more often sexually? You need to deny her once in a while.. she needs to want it more than you... Also mix things up in bed.... for example giving her orgasms while eating her out should spice things up :) Be…
/r/seduction28/11/19 09:29 AM
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What should I do? If you are already kissing her and fingering her, then the next thing to do is slowly start taking her clothes off while continuing this. I remember when I was first starting out, I would massage her, undress her, suck her tits, eat her out..etc.. eventually she would be completely naked , and at some point girls would say.. 'hey, why do you still have all your clothes on?'..... lol... so you need to remember to undress yourself with her... ​ I’m not sure how to take it farther…
/r/seduction28/11/19 09:13 AM
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What fucking girl wants to be with a guy so desperate to get a girl that he does 50 approaches a day and only focuses on picking up girls? I'm not disagreeing that doing 50 approaches is not great for a multitude of reasons... but just to play devil's advocate, how exactly would a girl know about the number of approaches that he does when she is approached by him? -B
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:46 AM
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If I text a girl, it's because I want to have a little conversation and these go really well... Until I ask them to hangout. How do you know they are going really well? Do you build attraction, convey value, flirt, build comfort, etc. ? Also, I know a few guys that just text and meet up, however I find Text->Call(s)->Meet-up works much better for me. -B
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:34 AM
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Need Advice. You're getting shit tested/congruence tested and failing ​ "I'm glad we're plutonic friends" "Me too! You're definitively NOT my type. " At this point she may ask why and try to validate herself or if a girl is checking me out she'll say something like "she probably just likes your shirt." "Yes, for sure. I get a lot of numbers wearing this shirt. Isn't it amazing how shallow girls are? " She may try to tell you she's not like that and then you can test her... BTW, you need to conve…
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:05 AM
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They freak out too much They should be enjoying it, not be freaking out at all.. you are doing it to early, and/or too aggressively, or they are not into you when you try (need to calibrate). -B
/r/seduction19/11/19 03:36 AM
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Meat, graded with letters. What do you do with meat eh? Chop it, pound it, tenderize it, cook it and eat it? Do you and your ilk see women as 'meat socks' where instead of letter grading you give them a number? I was trying to make a joke, chill .... ​ Yeah mate, it really works like that doesn't it. I remember dudes posting pics of girls on the old RSD forum claiming they were '10's'... Did I think any of them were even on par with Amanda Seyfried? No, in fact I thought most of them actually lo…
/r/seduction19/11/19 02:51 AM
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Has anyone had success with straight up propositioning girls? Let's say that you use normal pickup techniques and you get 5/100 closes which end up insta-date and sex... then you switch to this and you get 1/100 . Would you argue that you 'had success'? Technically yes it worked in that your opener led to sex, but most would argue that having such an opener which almost always forces the girl to put up barriers and lower your close rate is not 'successful' per se. -B
/r/seduction18/11/19 09:20 PM
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If you refer to women as 6,7,8 and 9's, your head has been messed up by the pick-up community Do you prefer letters instead (A, B, C) like meat (i.e. Grade A beef)... ?? LOL.. most of the guys I know that rate girls have never heard of.. or participate in the pickup community... but let me guess... you view all girls as the same? You can ignore (at your own peril) that men are hardwired to view looks as the dominant factor in attraction, but attempting to impose your views on others isn't going …
/r/seduction18/11/19 09:10 PM
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I’ve heard many girls say they like a sensitive guy, so don’t think this applies to everyone LOL... I find its better to focus on what girls are attracted to, not what they say they want... those can be two very different things... -B
/r/seduction15/11/19 07:03 PM
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It's not a good practice to argue with women because women use emotions to win an argument I've found the best way to argue with women is to use emotions myself. It's harder for them to respond and tell you that you shouldn't feel a certain way... also they are not used to it.... -B
/r/seduction15/11/19 07:00 PM
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Is it better to be a fake person and be socially succesfull than being yourself and not so succesfull? The age old question... do the ends justify the means ?... what is better is a question of morality that only YOU can ultimately answer... Regarding 'being yourself', this is not something that you can really run away from. If you change your clothes, behavior, attitude, actions, etc. to model someone else that you desire... well that is still your true self... It's not like you are a marionett…
/r/seduction14/11/19 08:10 PM
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Im very afraid to talk to woman, even in real life, i usually have short conversations. You should determine EXACTLY what your fear is... imagine the worst possible outcomes, and then learn to accept those, even expect them. Anything better than that will be a win. When you approach, always think of it as just a practice run for the next one. -B
/r/seduction03/11/19 10:53 PM
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it was BOTH of our first times doing anything like this Where did I go wrong? aside from the bit of awkwardness Congratulations dude !! You did something new. Its always awkward the first time. Remember riding a bike, or driving or swimming for the first time? Was it natural? No.. awkward as fuck. You didn't go wrong anywhere, you advanced. -B
/r/seduction03/11/19 10:21 PM
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One of my favorites is "In the Company of Men" I didn't watch the youtube clip but most of these are labeled as "romantic comedy", not PUA, and probably the most un-accurate thing about the majority of these is the female reactions to when guys profess their love (usually after being rejected) or do other very weak beta behaviour. In movie form, a lot of girls who watch such movies reaction is 'oh that is so sweet', when IRL, they would be completely creeped out by this same behavior if it were …
/r/seduction03/11/19 10:13 PM
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And are there any better alternatives? The thing with all of these PUA materials is that if you don't have experience, they will provide a structure, framework, direction, etc. for you to start with. However don't consider any of them to be the holy bible. You should try them out, keep your own journal of what works, look at competing other material, and in general internalize the things that you try that work for you. There is an old saying 'the map is not the terrain'.... these are all just hi…
/r/seduction03/11/19 10:00 PM
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Perhaps if your rule was not to have sex on the first date that *could* work, but not kissing is just going to mean you're not into her. I have seen very attractive guys refuse to have sex with girls even after a couple of dates, and it literally drove these girls crazy....so anything is possible. However, as a principle, in terms seduction/game, rigid rules such as this will harm your game. Its all about natural flow and calibration, not some pre-determined rigid structure that breaks the vibe.…
/r/seduction03/11/19 09:50 PM
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"There are too many people around, what will they think? You're going to get rejected" "dude its too creepy, nobody is around. You will scare her" Hmm... you are like Goldilocks where the porridge has to be just right... Consider that all of these strangers don't care about you, or your approach, they are busy thinking about their own shit that they have to deal with. Also, if someone does happen to catch a glance or look or listen, chances are that you will never see them again, so they have ex…
/r/seduction02/11/19 12:10 AM
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what should I do Tell her to bring a female friend on your next date.....two 3.5's should equal a 7 :) -B
/r/seduction29/10/19 05:43 AM
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However, the one aspect I suck at the most is dating . I’m (24) and have basically zero experience with women Can you be specific at what part you are having trouble with? Approaching, getting a number, getting a date, escalating...etc? ​ It’s super embarrassing when i meet new cool people that think I absolutely kill it with the ladies. It also kills my self esteem when my relatives+family friends shower me in compliments and suggest to everyone I’m a player because I haven’t settled down yet S…
/r/seduction29/10/19 05:40 AM
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I guess aside from the fact that this is 'seduction' and not relationships board, *for the most part*, guys seek sex and girls seek relationships. It has been my experience that while I chase a girl to have sex, they almost always chase me to have/maintain a relationship. If this isn't happening, it would be worth discussing why. -B
/r/seduction28/10/19 08:43 PM
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Wondering what the best thing to do would be? Since a couple of days have gone by, whatever she was feeling may be over. Pretend that nothing happened and text her something normal. -B
/r/seduction28/10/19 08:30 PM
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Biology ensures that you already know everything you need to know. I used to think that way too based on my own experiences and I'm guessing yours as well. When I was young, the toughest part for the first few girls was getting to the kiss. After that, it was like a light switch went off and I was on auto pilot, and I could escalate all the way to sex seemingly effortlessly. However after talking with quite a few guys who were having problems, I realized this biology or 'autopilot' doesn't exist…
/r/seduction28/10/19 05:57 AM
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I hooked up with my boss last night and need some advice Ask for a raise :) -B
/r/seduction28/10/19 05:09 AM
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Definitely do not hang around the entire time stuck to her like glue, that looks very needy. Do what you would do if she wasn't there.. see if she comes to you.. -B
/r/seduction25/10/19 09:26 PM
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you'll have those instances when you'll have a woman who will roll her eyes because she's trying to be sassy in a flirty way. The 'tell' here will be what happens immediately after the eyeroll. Does she continue to look at you and start to smile in any way.. or does she turn away or give very bad facial expression? -B
/r/seduction25/10/19 09:20 PM
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They can get slapped around by someone else I hope no one is advocating physical violence. The title of this post is "no need to play games", so perhaps I wasn't clear but I was trying to respond to *treatment* within that context. So 'mean treatment' might refer to negging or something similar. Just for the record, I don't personally advocate that you must do any of these things for seduction, only that I think these things should be allowed to be discussed without the 'holier than thou' moral …
/r/seduction25/10/19 08:33 AM
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You missed the part where I said: “Unless she’s REALLY into you”. Sorry if I miss-interpreted your thread, perhaps I did not understand it semantically. Basically, what I read was that there are two states "she's into you", or "she's not into you". You go on and say 'don't ever state your feelings period', the 'period' implies to me that it applies to both states. Then you explain the consequence of the 'not into you state', 'it will turn her off'. I agree. But no explanation why you couldn't ex…
/r/seduction25/10/19 07:44 AM
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any suggestions? Ask the scientific 36 questions to get him to fall in love with you :) https://www.inc.com/melanie-curtin/the-36-questions-scientists-say-can-make-any-two-people-fall-in-love.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/11/style/36-questions-that-lead-to-love.html http://36questionsinlove.com/ But seriously, I can think of 3 reasons that the guy doesn't talk to you. He doesn't know what to say because he's shy ( inexperienced, young) , he's just not that into you (lack of interest), or …
/r/seduction25/10/19 07:23 AM
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I had friends that I'm not gonna lie were kinda toxic when it came to women How you treat women is not a binary thing as implied in the responses so far (i.e. treat them nice or treat them mean).... , just as an example because we can go down a very deep rabbit hole: How about try lots of different types of treatment, see what women best respond to.. in effect let them train you on how to treat them and use that... No amount of game is going to change the fact that you're not doing so well in li…
/r/seduction25/10/19 07:04 AM
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At some point I will have to determine if I'm a person who actually wants to date. At some point you will just need to try it. You can read a lot of books about how a strawberry tastes, and you can attend therapy sessions about why no in your life ever gave you one, but the best way to see how it tastes is to put one in your mouth and bite it. Having an intimate relationship is a very natural thing to do.. in fact it is exactly what we are programmed and built for, it is not like trying this is …
/r/seduction25/10/19 06:38 AM
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got 38 matches atm. I’m nervous about setting up a date and such due to lack of experience Think of it is a video game, and you have 38 lives. Or at school, you have a chance to take the same test 38 times. Take the pressure off of having to do well. Think of it as practice for the the next time, each time. I’m also nervous that if we do meet they will be disappointed when they see me You should be more concerned that YOU will be disappointed when you see them. Our attraction to girls is much mo…
/r/seduction25/10/19 06:23 AM
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Watch out as hahas and lols are just a way to break tension and seek raport, which is not attractive behavior Very interesting observation Bruno, I agree. I've noticed that if these conversations were happening IRL, you wouldn't necessarily LOL a lot of things that occur in text. -B
/r/seduction25/10/19 06:13 AM
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In fact don’t ever state your feelings period. Never say never. In my personal experience, girls seem to like it when I *very seldom* state feelings or compliment them during sex....e.g. like 'I feel so close to you'.. or afterwards in the shower together, a light spank followed by 'you really turned me on...good girl :) ' LOL -B
/r/seduction25/10/19 05:59 AM
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Not true. I flew into Toronto a few months ago and did not experience this. Approach 10 girls in different settings and come back. -B
/r/seduction25/10/19 05:39 AM
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Most of them are the made of the same information That's true for *most* but there are still a few that have various edges. Some focus on technical step-by-step , some on inner game, some a high level mix, some on various approaches/situations (day game, online, texting, kino/escalation, etc.) Some have competing viewpoints (direct vs indirect approach). I wouldn't discount all of them. If you're new then it doesn't hurt to learn about theory, techniques, and processes. -B
/r/seduction25/10/19 05:14 AM
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I think porn is like any vice (cigarettes, alcohol, weed).. its okay in moderation but damaging if abused. concern that porn was damaging my confidence Porn is not going to damage your confidence, but excessive watching is going to de-motivate you from going out and picking up girls and having relationships, which is going to delay your growth and potentially alter your life. I am still a virgin Porn might give you unrealistic expectations of how you should behave with your partner, (what acts y…
/r/seduction25/10/19 04:53 AM
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No special equipment, and don't record anything, no evidence. Don't admit any wrong doing if confronted. Ever. Have a Bluetooth earpiece, call you friend, let him listen in. Benefits of this approach is that he can tell you things to say in near real time, and he doesn't have to be close by, he can be at home. This is not going to work in a bar/club, only more quiet places, day game. -B
/r/seduction25/10/19 04:44 AM
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Often times a girl doesn't know if she likes you. If you keep attracting, flirting, etc. she may like you later or at some point.. If you tell her your feelings, you not only give away all of your power, but you are putting her in a spot where she has to decide right now what the future will be.. and if she's not ready yet, then you've been friend zoned... its also a weak frame. -B
/r/seduction25/10/19 04:32 AM
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Sorry bud, it's not him, its you. For 2 months she didn't care, but all of a sudden she does? What changed? Nothing changed between him and her, but something did change between you too. This is a common issue where there is a lot of focus is placed on the girl's oribiters, x's, etc... focus on you and her.. you can't control the other situations.. focus on what you can control.. -B
/r/seduction25/10/19 04:20 AM
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"The less you care, the more you'll succeed." Interesting, I have a similar rule "care less than they care about you". This equation always has to be true -B
/r/seduction24/10/19 07:36 AM
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It's a numbers game, no one gets close 100% success, not even the best PUA's. Assume X amount of rejections for every 10 approaches, or kiss attempts.. or whatever you worried about getting rejected. Every event/interaction is either successful or a learning experience which moves you closer to the goal. -B
/r/seduction24/10/19 07:30 AM
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try to kiss her, rejected. Tried 2 more times during the evening, still rejected I’m quite inexperienced Trying to kiss a girl 3 times in one night doesn't seem like inexperience to me. Have you tried any Kino? Does she reject that as well?
/r/seduction24/10/19 07:21 AM
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how I should go about showing more interest in being more than friends Start flirting, initiate light Kino, basically the usual techniques to advance. The key is you need to pay attention to how she responds to everything and calibrate. Whatever you do, DON't verbalize it by saying something like " I have feeling for you". -B
/r/seduction24/10/19 06:50 AM
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If you're a guy who cannot expect to participate in anything related to "pick-up," That's your mindset, not a fact. I mean I'm a disabled autistic guy in his 30s. Can you tell me more about your disability? You should check out Stephen Hawking, he was married twice! I don't like the "payment agency" because I'd rather not believe the only person interested is charging by the half-hour. Several guys I know didn't like the payment agency until they tried it, and then fell in love with it. I know o…
/r/seduction24/10/19 06:35 AM
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I asked her if I was invited to chill at her place she had a long conversation with her parents on Monday night after I dropped her off and basically she made up her mind after to tell me that we were moving too quickly she had never dated someone considerably older/from a different country from her. Are you a different race/religion than her? Perhaps she asked her parents that night if you could come over at some point in the future, her parents asked a lot of questions about you, and they deci…
/r/seduction24/10/19 05:48 AM
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This is definitely something you want to ask your girlfriend about vice seddit. Does this actually work IRL? If you ask "Why aren't you in the mood anymore", I'm guessing that unless the answer is something obvious like "well, you have stopped showering regularly", you are probably just going to get something like "I don't know, just not feeling it", and in the process your attraction level has gone down since now you also seem needy.. ​ Seduction is the short term answer This has worked for me …
/r/seduction24/10/19 05:20 AM
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I assume that trying to frame it as an early retirement and having much more time for myself to just enjoy and experience life, as an option I had thought of doing, would be a no-no? Don't let others define your morality, you are the only one who is going to have to deal with what you did in your life, not anyone else, good or bad, weak or strong. Don't be influenced by others judging you. Regardless whether you have strong morals or not, you should still understand the consequences of your acti…
/r/seduction24/10/19 05:00 AM
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The problem is not getting her number, it's what you're going to say or text her once you get it.... -B
/r/seduction24/10/19 04:41 AM
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She was probably talking to multiple guys, met up with someone else that she more into first, and now you are up at bat. I would wait a short while.. hours.. not a day.. and get back in.. keep going as if nothing happened.. you can joke about it depending on your frame such as 'welcome back'.. but it didn't faze you.. try to meet up... -B
/r/seduction24/10/19 04:05 AM
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Yes if you change the topic and text her something interesting and/or enough time has passed (1 day at least). -B
/r/seduction23/10/19 09:08 AM
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I would say okay and invite a few male friends/wingmen to your house as well. Now you have six people drinking, having fun, it will be easier to isolate, and less pressure than trying to be the center of attraction for everyone. -B
/r/seduction23/10/19 09:03 AM
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The real danger of online dating is developing unattractive texting behaviour. Interesting theory. I think another real danger of online dating is that you will get less quality women in general then in real life, however the plus side is you will get many more of them. Also, if you're not the best looking guy, online game will be relatively more difficult than IRL, than it will be for better looking guys, because online its all about your looks, while in person you have much more opportunity to…
/r/seduction23/10/19 08:10 AM
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You can try to slowly decrease the amount and see what happens. The problem with this *crutch* is that while it works fine at clubs, are you going to have a few drinks before going to a coffee shop, grocery store, or work, before you are able to talk to a girl there? -B
/r/seduction23/10/19 07:36 AM
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No, and it wouldn't hurt to comment on it either.. "Can you feel how much you turn me on?" -B
/r/seduction23/10/19 07:33 AM
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I think its an addiction when you'd always rather watch porn than go pickup. Also if you'd rather watch than do your existing partner, or still fantasize about porn while in the act of doing your partner. -B
/r/seduction23/10/19 07:29 AM
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Should I go for it? You don't have to go all in. Test the waters, start with light flirting, see her reaction. If positive, flirt more, keep things open, with a plausibility of deniability.For example, invite her to activities that you mutually like.. if there is rejection, you qualify with, 'I was just asking you as a friend'. If she shows up, then do the activity, and then escalate to doing another activity.. for example you go kayaking all day, you're finished, you say 'lets grab a bite'.. Af…
/r/seduction23/10/19 07:20 AM
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What’s the best way to text her back? Depending on the girl, the situation, and your frame, you can playfully/lightly tease her about where she's been, or why now (e.g. Christmas is coming up soon.. I guess you're looking for a present :) , or test for compliance (send me a cute pic to show me you still miss me :) but in general move on from this and pretend like nothing happened or is wrong and carry on as usual. The door opened, walk through it. -B
/r/seduction23/10/19 07:04 AM
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This should be organized in a different way. First, it depends when you say 'tell them you like them', are you referring to physical attributes or personality? For personality, I think you can definitely tell girls that you like their confidence, or that they are so sweet, or its cute that they are shy, or whatever... this shows you are paying attention to them and builds comfort. But you must do it sparingly. For physical attributes, prior to sex, this just reduces your attraction to them. They…
/r/seduction23/10/19 06:48 AM
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Wow, called being silly and boring from the same guy. I suffered from depression. You: "Well that would explain why you're boring, what's your excuse for being silly? :) " ...but seriously.... you can just say "Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know. How long has that been going on?" ... and if she replies...well then you're back to convo mode... .... -B
/r/seduction22/10/19 08:20 AM
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“Hey ya wanna do this again sometime.” This is super needy. You had sex with her. Afterwards, she should be asking you when you are free again. If not, then something went horribly wrong. She said yeah sure but not too enthusiastically Because the assumption was that you WOULD do this again, and by you asking, you indicated that YOU weren't sure that it did, and are asking for re-assurance. She may have also interpreted the 'do this' as strictly 'sex', so you asked 'do you want to have sex again…
/r/seduction21/10/19 10:19 AM
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feel guilt when it comes to openly saying that they want the hottest women they can get? You should ask yourself why you feel that way....... 1) Because you feel that you don't deserve the hottest girl because you are lacking in quality X ? Your hot girl might lacking in some other quality Y, but this is really a self esteem issue. Would you not apply for a job that you really liked because you thought that you didn't deserve the high annual salary? Of course not. Also, on some level, the idea o…
/r/seduction21/10/19 10:03 AM
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Its great that you are reflecting on what you did wrong in each relationship where you got dumped, but there are probably more reasons for the breakups than just the swinging pendulum of neediness<----->Cold/indifferent. Some girls want to be chased Don't focus so much on what they want, but more on what they respond to. I think that you can and should show girls that you care about them, but it should be done either spontaneously, or as a response to a positive interaction, not a negative one. …
/r/seduction21/10/19 09:43 AM
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“kinda??” Send me some pics to convince me to drop the 'kinda' :) -B
/r/seduction21/10/19 09:21 AM
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Yes, exactly this! You are putting her on the spot by asking her out. Inviting her to something fun gives her time to hangout with you while she's still figuring out whether she likes you. -B
/r/seduction21/10/19 09:13 AM
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she responded with “ i don’t think I’m ready for a relationship right now” That's cool. Do you have any cute friends you could set me up with? -B
/r/seduction21/10/19 08:59 AM
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So, I have a bit of a fat fetish, and due to that, i barely talk to people in person. Don't be ashamed of having a fetish, it is natural and good. But I've been wanting a girlfriend for a while, mainly because freshmen without girlfriends are basically ignored by everyone else. Wanting a girlfriend so that you can feel validation from everyone is not a good reason to get one. The problem is that i don't think anybody in my school is ok with my fetish, You would be surprised by what people are wi…
/r/seduction14/10/19 08:40 PM
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Hi Volcom; I've been married twice and have learned a few things A lot of guys use various techniques to get a girls number, to kiss her, to have sex with her, etc. One day they wake up after the dust has cleared, and they think, when does the game end, and when can I be myself? Because now they care about the girl or love her, and don't want to think that they are manipulating her or whatever ethical line they crossed but didn't care about before, or they are tired of following some complex pro…
/r/seduction14/10/19 06:28 AM
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Today I told her how I feel, Most times in the beginning, a girl doesn't know how she feels about you. You are both playing the mating dance and she's not sure where she wants it to go.. she's just having fun and its YOUR job to lead her somewhere. You are both saying 'maybe something will happen' but you're not sure, there's chemistry and excitement. By talking about your feelings, you break the casual fun vibe, and now its serious. She has to commit to say 'i like you' when she's not ready. Al…
/r/seduction13/10/19 09:42 PM
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This question seems very technical in nature written from a 'PUA tools & techniques' point of view. I think a lot of guys starting out skim over the 'internal game' portion of whatever they read and focus on the external process. This works initially, but then tends to break down whenever there is a certain amount of emotion invested and there is too much of a rift between what the books tell you to do, and what you are feeling at the time (usually anxiety or fear), and start making horrible mis…
/r/seduction13/10/19 08:37 AM
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This is a good lesson on striking when the iron is hot instead of trying to wait for a perfect situation which never comes, and usually only gets worse Not really seduction, more a "I don't get women" post. Relationships are not static. In the span of 1yr, people can have doubts, re-consider, breakup, get married/divorced,etc.. I've met several girls who were extremely upset with their boyfriends and considered and/or were close to breaking up, but eventually married them. Perhaps she was frustr…
/r/seduction13/10/19 07:04 AM
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ChrisParkerNYC, thx for sharing the back and forth texts, it shows that persistence pays off. To all of the haters here, who are ASSUMING that the girl is some sort of delicate flower who cannot say NO in a text message... have you ever considered that perhaps she wanted to be chased and not come off as a total slut to just say 'yes I'm coming over to fuck you' right away? Also, she wanted to set the frame that something 'could' happen when at his house, but that it was not necessarily a 'sure t…
/r/seduction12/10/19 08:35 PM
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