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DiscussionBetter-Wrangler-7959/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 11:33 PM
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I agree that men show compassion differently and show it to other men readily (in our way). But this is a "what if" discussion. So what if society and women were able to feel compassion toward men and express it in a way men can more readily accept?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:13 PM
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Why would you think so? Nothing in this thread, and especially not from me, would give that impression. I'm an old dude and happily married. Just see my grandsons suffering a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 05:11 AM
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We've been conditioned to think these differences are only due to socialization. But biology/psychology are a factor as well. Denying that fact, I think, underlies a lot of our current gender war.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 05:09 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 05:03 AM
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The world didn't start in 1950.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 05:01 AM
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There are a few here who just seem to derive pleasure from emotionally abusing men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 04:54 AM
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That's the same thing the red pillers say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 04:50 AM
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So incapable of compassion toward men. Check.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 02:07 AM

Then you're doomed. The remnant will take up the old ways again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 02:05 AM
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What do you think my actual question is?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 02:01 AM
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If you're curious about what I mean, scroll through the thread to find the chatgpt response I posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:57 AM
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You can say RETVRN, son, but you're still stuck in the feminist frame. Men and women weren't in competition. They were united as a family against starvation and death.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:54 AM

It's not spam. It's an artifact. And it directly answers the question you keep pretending to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:51 AM
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No. It's literally wired into our DNA.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:43 AM
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Of course they do. But should more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:42 AM

This ChatGPT response frames it well: You said: Are men shown compassion? ChatGPT said: Yes, men are shown compassion — but less consistently, less openly, and under more restrictive conditions than women. Why That Is Biology Compassion reflexes are strongest toward helplessness (infants, visible weakness). Men’s distress often doesn’t display in those ways. Evolutionary “expendability bias”: groups could survive with fewer men but not fewer women, tilting instinctive compassion toward women/chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:41 AM
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Passive aggressive or sealioning. Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:40 AM
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That's the core. Women used to understand, appreciate, and support men in their struggles and pain (i.e. when we had real families). It would be nice to return to that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:39 AM
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Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:37 AM
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Life. Pain. Suffering. Specific to men: the burden of disposability and having to earn worth
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:34 AM
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No you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:32 AM
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Like their wives, they worked their lives away and sacrificed for their families. Often died for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:28 AM
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Agreed(ish). But wouldn't it be nice if they were?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:23 AM
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MRAs essentially tried to draw attention to certain systemic abuses against men (e.g. men receiving much longer prison sentences than women for the same crimes) by just switching out 'women' for 'men' in the feminist script. They expected to receive compassion and help but became social pariahs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:20 AM
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Hmm. To be more clear: men expect to not receive compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:12 AM
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Good question. Probably not the kind of soothing and validation that compassion for women and children results in. Probably closer to the literal meaning ("suffer with").
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:11 AM
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Men don't expect compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:07 AM
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There is zero compassion in the "toxic masculinity" narrative. It's the "hysteria" story playing out again, but for men this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:04 AM

That's what this thread is about, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:03 AM
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I'm a fair dude. And honey catches more flies than vinegar.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:02 AM
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Mostly social conditioning and lack of male-only spaces. I suspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:01 AM
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Obviously not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:57 AM
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That's not a very fair view of women's conditioning (or pain).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:56 AM
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Well, you're definitely one data point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:51 AM
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I'm not talking about any specific man or type of man. I'm talking about the natural difference we all experience in feeling compassion for men in general and women in general. See the ChatGPT response in this thread to see more clearly what I'm really asking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:49 AM
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Women ARE special (and rightfully so). They receive compassion (more) readily from men, women, and society than men do. The question is, what if it was as natural for us to feel and give compassion for men. See the ChatGPT post I posted in response to 'MyLastBestChance' to see what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:47 AM
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Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:43 AM
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Same. So I'm not understanding the thrust of your comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:42 AM
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You have the wrong flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:39 AM
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That kind of female-coded male advocacy has had precisely the opposite effect. Few are held in more contempt than MRAs and incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:37 AM
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Of course. Like I said, it's the IF I'm asking about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:35 AM
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Compassion literally means "suffer with." You can read it as "join in the struggle," if it helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:32 AM
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That's what underlies my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:30 AM
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If women find a man to be worthy of compassion they don't find them repulsive. That IF is the underlying question here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:28 AM
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Are there suffering/struggling people that you don't have compassion for?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:27 AM
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That's the "spirit" of the question. It's more succinct than I could write myself. What would it look like? Compassion is a feeling right? The question is, if what's described here were recognized and overcome somehow (how?), what would result?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:24 AM
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That's the "spirit" of the question. It's more succinct than I could write myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:22 AM
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That's the easy part. What about society? And women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:20 AM
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And society? Women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:19 AM

Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:18 AM

This ChatGPT response frames it well: You said: Are men shown compassion? ChatGPT said: Yes, men are shown compassion — but less consistently, less openly, and under more restrictive conditions than women. Why That Is Biology Compassion reflexes are strongest toward helplessness (infants, visible weakness). Men’s distress often doesn’t display in those ways. Evolutionary “expendability bias”: groups could survive with fewer men but not fewer women, tilting instinctive compassion toward women/chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:16 AM

That's the most a troll gets from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:09 AM
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I do not. But I also know the stakes are much less life-and-death now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:08 AM
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How would you suggest overcoming the nature/nurture dynamics that weigh against those outcomes?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:00 AM
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"Women will follow suit." I'm doubtful of that. Do you think it's natural for women to feel compassion for men's struggles (at least as compared to those of women)?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 11:58 PM
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That's the "biological/evolutionary" factor, yes. Is it still true in the soft environment we now exist in?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 11:57 PM

Shh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 11:46 PM
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The guidelines are full of ideological narrative, not "expert psychological research." It's an utter disgrace that it's still in force 9 years after being published.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/25 12:44 AM
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The six-author ideological diatribe published in response is quite hilarious.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/25 12:39 AM
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