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Legal RightsBetterOut/r/MensRights26/05/18 10:46 AM
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I'm not sure how this is a men's right issue. It's more an issue of self care, or encouraging people to look out for others, particularly the elderly who live alone.
/r/MensRights19/07/18 10:12 AM
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You don't. Leave it off and the statistics can speak for themselves.
/r/MensRights19/07/18 10:06 AM
1

Again, "something along the lines of" is not an actual quote. When someone has the actual words, we can critique them. Until then, it's all supposition. I will also say that nothing she said is going to make his behaviour ok. This isn't preschool. "S/he started it" is something young children say, before they have the social skills to do better.
/r/MensRights07/07/18 12:14 PM
0

So much hate in such a small individual. I feel mildly sorry for you, but only mildly.
/r/MensRights04/07/18 02:05 AM
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"The likes of me"? I'm for men's rights, for women's rights, for children's rights. I'm also for respectful, open discussion. This isn't something that has been demonstrated by either DL or SHY in this instance. If you want an echo chamber, create your own subreddit that you moderate, and you can ban anyone who disagrees with you even minutely.
/r/MensRights04/07/18 02:04 AM
2

My over the top rage kicks in whenever I see someone spell "lose" as "loose". I have a few others, but I don't want to go down that rabbit hole. I may never find my way out!
/r/MensRights03/07/18 01:52 PM
1

I don't know anything about you. My comment was light hearted and in jest. HR departments are the bane of normal, decent, legitimate workplaces :P
/r/MensRights03/07/18 01:02 PM
1

That should make for an interesting discussion with HR. :P
/r/MensRights03/07/18 12:30 PM
3

The title of your post was misleading. Better to state what annoyed you in the heading, or in an explanatory post.
/r/MensRights03/07/18 12:23 PM
1

Whatever takes your fancy.
/r/MensRights03/07/18 12:21 PM
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He just keeps digging himself in deeper.
/r/MensRights03/07/18 11:07 AM
2

Feel free to fight for your dress code to be changed to be more equitable. I'm sure there are others in your work place that would come on board if you pitched it to them.
/r/MensRights03/07/18 11:06 AM
1

So you don't like that there is a woman on the poster...
/r/MensRights03/07/18 11:03 AM
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No, YOU are just a nasty piece of work.
/r/MensRights03/07/18 11:02 AM
4

I hope she was charged with assault. The man whooping in the background should take a good, hard look at himself.
/r/MensRights03/07/18 10:59 AM
2

You seem super open to other possibilities...such as you being wrong.
/r/MensRights03/07/18 10:08 AM
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I personally see this as a tiff two politicians had in parliament that could easily have been resolved privately. DL chose to dig in, and neither was open to discussing it calmly with the other. So something that could have been over and done with, and a non issue, has been aired to the media, who are lapping it up.
/r/MensRights03/07/18 06:45 AM
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I also note you yourself have labelled SHY a "misandrist trollop" on another thread. Speaks to your possible leanings on this matter.
/r/MensRights03/07/18 05:29 AM
2

Janet Rice didn't say "if only ALL men would stop doing things to women". I suggest you google regarding the comments DL made on Sky news. There is a lot of reporting about it. It's also not my job to answer your question as I didn't make the claim "stop shagging men" was sexist.
/r/MensRights03/07/18 05:26 AM
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This isn't just about what DL said in parliament now. It's because of his comments on tv and radio following this. Also, keep up - SHY isn't in favour of changing the laws and didn't say "all men are rapists".
/r/MensRights03/07/18 03:50 AM
1

He could simply have retracted his statement in the discussion she had with him immediately after the debate. Or come to some sort of civil resolution. Instead he repeated what he had yelled across the room to her, she called him a creep, he said something like "fuck you", and a hullabaloo was launched.
/r/MensRights03/07/18 03:48 AM
1

I agree. Our parliament is often a circus, with name calling and insults flying. I have experienced more mature behaviour with my preschool aged students!
/r/MensRights03/07/18 03:46 AM
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Note they didn't suspend the presenters, just the person who chose to display the comments made on the screen. I find the whole thing bizarre.
/r/MensRights03/07/18 03:44 AM
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That's what you have inferred, not what she implied. Given the context of the discussion was debate around whether tasers and pepper spray should be legalised, taking offence at this comment seems ridiculous.
/r/MensRights03/07/18 03:42 AM
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I'm Australian. I'm not surprised with David L's rudeness and refusal to apologise, but he then went on tv and radio and basically insinuated that Sarah was a slut. He is a tool, but he knows how to get himself in the headlines. It is a distraction from the work that our politicians are meant to be doing.
/r/MensRights03/07/18 03:40 AM
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She didn't. The only supposed direct quote I have seen was in an article in the Australian, and it was "yes, men should stop raping women", in response to something someone else had said. That is hardly a claim that all men are rapists.
/r/MensRights03/07/18 03:38 AM
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I'm happy they err on the side of caution in those cases - of which there would be few.
/r/MensRights01/07/18 06:42 AM
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If the xray tests showed the "child" wasn't really a "child" they wouldn't be kept in with the other children, they would be moved. I'm open to a discussion about unaccompanied minors actually being found to not be minors, but at the moment I see it as an attempt at distraction from the badly thought through no zero policy implemented by the current administration, that directly led to unprecedented child separations. If people don't want to admit they might actually be children, might actually …
/r/MensRights30/06/18 12:34 PM
2

Please don't encourage the slightly to moderately unhinged on here...
/r/MensRights29/06/18 09:54 AM
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Not sure that is true about all the contributors here: "Fight fire with fire, no woman deserves you. Go your own way." "Each of us can refuse to help a woman." "Women are trash".
/r/MensRights29/06/18 09:53 AM
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Wow. You are spreading hate and division. Encouraging meanspirited behaviours and selfishness. Do you really think this is going to make the world a better place? I hope you get help before you damage others.
/r/MensRights29/06/18 09:48 AM
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Plenty of outrage to go around. Men and women need to work together for the best interests of all children. There is plenty of evidence to show the trauma of separation for children forcibly removed from their parents and yet the government chooses to inflict this deliberately on other children.
/r/MensRights29/06/18 09:45 AM
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Do you have a link to the research that works? So far I don't see where suicide of men is being blamed on men...The article might shed light on this.
/r/MensRights29/06/18 09:39 AM
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From The Australian: Liberal Democratic Party senator David Leyonhjelm says there’s “no chance” of an apology after he told Sarah Hanson-Young to “stop shagging men” during a vote on a motion on nonlethal means of self defence for women. Senator Hanson-Young yesterday told parliament the LDP senator made the remark during a vote on a motion about arming women with Tasers to combat violence. “I asked whether I heard him correctly; he confirmed he yelled ‘you should stop shagging men, Sarah’,” Sen…
/r/MensRights29/06/18 09:31 AM
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It reports the facts. Sorry if that doesn't sit well with you.
/r/MensRights29/06/18 09:26 AM
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I want a direct quote of what Sarah Hanson-Young actually said, not DL's interpretation of what she said. "saying something along the lines of all men being rapists" is not the same as her actually saying "all men are rapists".
/r/MensRights29/06/18 09:25 AM
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So the government's own figures, provided by the government in power, are in fact wrong? You are clutching at straws. Next you will be saying they are all crisis actors.
/r/MensRights28/06/18 12:43 AM
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Yes. I find these examples just undermine the MRA's credibility. This is a shame, as there are many legitimate concerns when it comes to men's issues that should receive community support.
/r/MensRights28/06/18 12:42 AM
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Putting aside whether you think positive discrimination is justified or not, I can't help but find this opinion piece shows that any data can be manipulated to support the conclusion you strive to reach.
/r/MensRights27/06/18 07:41 AM
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Oh, I know about the process. I do wonder why they aren't focusing on changing the process so as to 1. Ensure efficient and rapid processing of claims of asylum 2. Ensure illegal entrants have their case heard quickly and deported 3. Ensure the system coordinates DHHS and court systems so any children who are removed from families can be reunited asap. This is not currently the case.
/r/MensRights25/06/18 08:19 AM
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Again, because up until now, with the recent upsurge in child removals, the press has not known where the girls were being housed... The answer remains the same. Sorry you don't like it.
/r/MensRights25/06/18 06:55 AM
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I have no hurt feelings. Not sure you can say the same.
/r/MensRights25/06/18 06:49 AM
0

Ah, so you know I am for open borders, because I don't agree with the current actions of the US government. It must be great to live your life thinking you know everything. Those of us who haven't deluded ourselves that we are godlike will just potter along living a more nuanced life.
/r/MensRights25/06/18 06:43 AM
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"The bulk of your data" - are you saying you have written research on the subject, or are you just talking about anecdotal experience? If the former, I would be interested to read it, if the latter, congrats, you are just like the rest of us. "so you can go suck it" - that won't be happening
/r/MensRights25/06/18 06:41 AM
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It really doesn't. You just choose to read it that way.
/r/MensRights25/06/18 06:34 AM
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The US is a signatory of the Refugee Convention. They have responsibilities as a result of this and they are failing to follow them. I'm not about open borders, but I am about not deliberately traumatising children, which is what is currently happening.
/r/MensRights25/06/18 06:33 AM
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Sounds spot on to me. There isn't always a need to engage with ignorance.
/r/MensRights25/06/18 06:30 AM
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You are being pedantic - claim/apply can be the same thing. The point is, they shouldn't simply turn people away at ports of entry and they shouldn't be separating families who claim asylum. The Trump administration has decided to go zero tolerance, swamping an already overwhelmed system. They did this deliberately, knowing it would mean children would be taken, and they said this was to act as a deterrent. They created this mess, and now want to blame everyone but themselves.
/r/MensRights25/06/18 06:29 AM
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Great to know how you would rate period pain, as a man who has never experienced it. Your comments show a condescension that demonstrates your lack of understanding in this area. Period pain and other accompanying symptoms relating to menstruation will vary widely from woman to woman and also between periods for some women. As the experience of pain is subjective, it isn't possible to grade someone else's pain. That is why doctors ask the patient to do so for themselves. It seems I also need to …
/r/MensRights25/06/18 06:26 AM
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Yep. Exactly.
/r/MensRights25/06/18 06:08 AM
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Because the press has not known until now where the girls were being held. That is the reason it is notable. Talk about using any damn current event to push your own barrow of resentment!
/r/MensRights25/06/18 06:07 AM
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I assume the "including girls" was added due to the fact the Trump administration had refused to inform the press of where girls and young toddlers/babies were being held. So knowing some girls are now being held at this facility is notable. There has been endless reporting about this tragedy and it hasn't focused on girls vs boys. We know the trauma caused to all children in this situation is real.
/r/MensRights25/06/18 06:05 AM
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Ok, I have to challenge this. The facts are, claiming asylum is not a crime and there are confirmed reports that families are doing so at ports of entry. Some are being turned away (which shouldn't happen) and some were being allowed in, but then having their children removed (which shouldn't happen). Don't just unquestioningly accept every piece of rhetoric thrown out by the Trump administration. They have a proven track record of lying.
/r/MensRights25/06/18 06:02 AM
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I don't think words are needed. Just look at her steadily without smiling, then ignore her and move on.
/r/MensRights25/06/18 05:59 AM
1

Bizarre!
/r/MensRights24/06/18 12:52 PM
1

Interesting proposal.
/r/MensRights24/06/18 12:51 PM
1

Let's remember that a woman "avoiding responsibility" involves her making the choice to abort, and undergoing the abortion and subsequent recovery. For men, it's as simple as walking away. They are not the same thing.
/r/MensRights24/06/18 12:50 PM
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This is the second post I've seen today that goes into this issue of men having the right to opt out of fatherhood. I find it all terribly depressing, but will say what I said in the last thread. Men who wish to opt out should do so. They then don't get to change their mind down the track. Of course, the child is the one forgotten in all of this snarking between men and women. They are the only ones without a choice in the matter. Adults, get your damn act together.
/r/MensRights24/06/18 12:39 PM
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Opting out for women does involve more than just walking away. They are not ever going to be the same thing for men and women.
/r/MensRights24/06/18 12:36 PM
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This was painful to read. Slogans on tshirts will not be the thing defining how children view the world. If there is anything I want both boys and girls to know it's this: "You have choices. Your choices will have consequences. Own your choices and the consequences."
/r/MensRights24/06/18 12:29 PM
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The article was about men equating physical violence to being raped. I didn't agree entirely with the opinions expressed in the article, but find your efforts to use this article to talk about perceived leniency by the police/courts towards female rapists absurd.
/r/MensRights24/06/18 12:25 PM
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So is the manual for security workers?
/r/MensRights24/06/18 12:21 PM
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That's one way to look at it.
/r/MensRights24/06/18 12:19 PM
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I find this one hard to believe. What kind of business do you work at?
/r/MensRights24/06/18 12:09 PM
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Maybe when the rate of women poisoning children equals the rate of men raping or beating women, we can revisit your suggestion.
/r/MensRights24/06/18 12:07 PM
1

Great to see this campaign. Hope there are more like it.
/r/MensRights24/06/18 11:56 AM
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You are lumping it all together, which is deliberately misleading. I'm all for children to have their fathers in their lives, and mothers who deliberately seek to punish men by removing their children from them are beneath contempt. However, some of these children are separated from their fathers due to their fathers being violent/drug or alcohol affected. The child's safety is of paramount importance and it is up to the father to get his act together so he is no longer a risk. For the 2000 plus…
/r/MensRights24/06/18 08:58 AM
5

And yet there are still 2000 children who have been separated from their parents.
/r/MensRights22/06/18 03:22 AM
1

I feel like some of you didn't even read the article. If you had you would note that the author was a man, and the woman pictured, the one you are so callously insulting, is the murder victim. What a joke some of you are.
/r/MensRights22/06/18 03:19 AM
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I'm confused. Who are you referring to? The woman pictured in the article? The one murdered?
/r/MensRights22/06/18 03:16 AM
1

"The fact is that men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators of violence against women, children and other men. Around 95 per cent of all survivors of violencereport experiencing threats or physical and sexual assault from a male perpetrator." How is this paragraph fake news? You are the one that cherry picked the "children" out of the first sentence, which takes it out of context, making your entire claim fraudulent.
/r/MensRights22/06/18 03:09 AM
1

Did I miss something she said in the article that denigrates men?
/r/MensRights13/06/18 07:09 AM
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Someone has too much time on their hands.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 06:38 AM
1

I don't agree with the suggestion, but then I don't agree with quotas in any profession. I'm all for people having opportunity and access to good education that provides them with CHOICE to follow the path they want to follow. Those suggesting quotas are in the minority don't discuss the ramifications this controlling approach would have on individual choice.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 06:35 AM
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I agree more male teachers are needed. What can be done to encourage men to take this on? In Australia, there is also a dearth of male teachers in primary school. The men who do study teaching are usually snapped up quickly by schools, but there is also the issue of advancement, and men either moving up to administrative/managerial roles or finding another job that pays more.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 06:32 AM
1

What proof do you have that men have applied for jobs at this company and not been successful because the company prefers women?
/r/MensRights12/06/18 06:28 AM
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"I’m not saying that all women are whores but when you live in a “patriarchy” that requires massively unilateral gifting, it’s hard not to see it for what it is. " At least you don't hide your disdain for women. It's right out there for all to see. The article is actually a good news story, full of positives (someone working hard to achieve what they have, family friendly workplace that also helps those less fortunate). Your comment comes across as mean spirited and petty.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 06:25 AM
1

How is it illegal for male run businesses to have more male staff than female staff? How do we know the disparity is about hiring practices favouring women rather than fewer men applying for the roles?
/r/MensRights12/06/18 06:23 AM
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You rail against feminists and the unfairness of it all, but then dismiss their determined, consistent action and lobbying as though that has nothing to do with their successes. You can't just expect change to occur if you aren't willing to work for it.
/r/MensRights11/06/18 06:15 AM
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What men's groups are not being allowed? Did you have any specific groups in mind?
/r/MensRights11/06/18 06:07 AM
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Do you have any studies that support the premise of your question? (I would be interested to read about objective measurements, rather than just anecdotal experiences). I have a few general thoughts about this: Men and women tend to exhibit their annoyance/disapproval/hurt quite differently. As often discussed on subreddits, men are socialised not to show any vulnerability. They are often less likely to express outwardly everytime they are offended or disapprove of something. Women tend to expre…
/r/MensRights11/06/18 06:05 AM
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"Guns are used in nearly half of all suicides, and ready access to weapons is one of several risk factors. New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts, Maryland and Connecticut have the country’s lowest suicide rates. Those states are Democratic-leaning in their politics, clustered in the Northeast and have some of the country’s strictest gun control laws, though researchers say many other factors could account for their low rates." "Women who attempt suicide tend to use nonviolent means, such as overdo…
/r/MensRights11/06/18 05:42 AM
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Just found this that gives a few examples of how funds will be used (I'm sure there is more information available, but I'm not a Canadian and am unsure where to focus my search): https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/globewe/we-day-unit-1/article36395620/
/r/MensRights10/06/18 09:19 AM
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A few thoughts: there are people making claims that the money will be wasted, frittered away or siphoned off by war lords. Before buying into this claim, please do some investigations into how this money will be used, what organisations will receive it, and how each organisation utilises its funding. More and more, foreign aid is about building local capacity in business, education, health, sanitation, etc, and the funds are better utilised as they tap into local not for profits who are deliveri…
/r/MensRights10/06/18 09:14 AM
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I don't know how you can compare the two. First of all, animal cruelty is abhorrent. Secondly, with our frontal lobe, humans have more capacity to problemsolve and manage conflict than animals do. The fact we often don't utilise this skill is disappointing, to say the least. Thirdly, I'm not blaming you. I'm pointing out that your choice of actions so far in responding to your partner's bad behaviour is not working for you legally. It's not about what is moral/right or fair. I'm commenting on wh…
/r/MensRights10/06/18 07:44 AM
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"Again you are feminist tone policing or trying to derail points made on this sub. " I don't expect you to list all possible problems women face in one comment. This is a conversation. More than one person gets to add their thoughts, and often this gives a fuller picture of the issue. It's not an attempt to derail. You assume I'm pushing a feminist agenda, when I'm actually in favour of all children having access to education.
/r/MensRights07/06/18 10:37 PM
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Discussing all the issues doesn't mean you don't action them. You can walk and chew gum at the same time. You really are determined to read my comment as not aligned in any way with your own, as well as labeling me (inaccurately) in your past two responses. Reddit is supposed to facilitate a discussion of ideas. You appear to just want to argue with those who don't echo your own sentiments 100 percent.
/r/MensRights07/06/18 10:31 PM
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I don't come from the feminist sub, and your decision to read my comment as patronising is your own. If you read my comment again you will see I didn't invalidate your "tampon solution". I acknowledged it was part of the picture.
/r/MensRights07/06/18 02:39 PM
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You are missing the pragmatic point: sending threats via text is handing your ex evidence to paint you in a certain light. You have to control yourself, regardless of how angry you are, so you stop shooting yourself in the foot.
/r/MensRights07/06/18 09:17 AM
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Or just myob. Make your own choices, but don't attack others for choosing something different. It just makes you look like a controlling toad.
/r/MensRights07/06/18 09:14 AM
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These are individuals you don't want to be involved with romantically (or socially).
/r/MensRights07/06/18 09:08 AM
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That is one reason. Of many. Access to education can be limited for many reasons, often linked to poverty. There is not one, easy fix.
/r/MensRights07/06/18 09:06 AM
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Lobby, lobby, lobby.
/r/MensRights07/06/18 09:04 AM
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How so?
/r/MensRights07/06/18 09:04 AM
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The Middle East is just one part of the world. There are many other countries that have high levels of poverty and low levels of access to education.
/r/MensRights07/06/18 09:03 AM
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"around the world" - means they are looking at countries where access to education for girls is not what it is for boys I also hope it means they will be building more schools in remote areas so that all children in that area can attend school. The devil's in the detail and that isn't available yet.
/r/MensRights07/06/18 09:02 AM
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They are talking about developing nations, and addressing poverty, not western nations.
/r/MensRights07/06/18 08:59 AM
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This appears to be talking about foreign aid, rather than domestic education. There are still huge disparities in many developing nations when it comes to access to education for girls vs boys. This isn't about "fuck males".
/r/MensRights07/06/18 08:57 AM
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" Who came up with the idea to divide these issues by gender to such extreme points?" - this for me, is the main problem. Any thinking person knows that violence/abuse/harassment and other forms of toxic behaviour are present in both men and women, and that both men and women can be/have been the targets. If we focused on the behaviours, we could have more holistic conversations and have more effective interventions and supports put in place for perpetrators and victims.
/r/MensRights07/06/18 08:53 AM
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In your view, who is holding all this malice towards male victims? Is it some/all women and/or some/all men?
/r/MensRights07/06/18 08:49 AM
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War veterans and soldiers who were maimed/killed in wars are acknowledged within society. There is great respect for them. This article is not comparing the woman's experience to those soldiers on D-Day. It clearly states "after D-Day".
/r/MensRights07/06/18 08:46 AM
1

Hm, so you seem to believe that the majority of women wouldn't support changes to the court system, support banning of circumcision for non medical reasons, etc. I don't think that is the case.
/r/MensRights05/06/18 02:23 PM
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Agreed.
/r/MensRights05/06/18 02:20 PM
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From: https://www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/opre/nis4_report_congress_full_pdf_jan2010.pdf Perpetrator’s sex. Children were somewhat more likely to be maltreated by female perpetrators than by males: 68% of the maltreated children were maltreated by a female, whereas 48% were maltreated by a male. (Some children were maltreated by both.) Of children maltreated by biological parents, mothers maltreated the majority (75%) whereas fathers maltreated a sizable minority (43%). In contrast, male…
/r/MensRights05/06/18 02:17 PM
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Yes, by all means vote, after informing yourself of the policies each candidate supports. Make an informed decision rather than a hysterical one.
/r/MensRights05/06/18 02:01 PM
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I didn't suggest more male deference to women. Chivalry is about courtesy, kindness and giving. Women do that all the time. Just because there isn't a word with medieval origins that equates with chivalry doesn't mean equivalent behaviours aren't in play.
/r/MensRights31/05/18 12:11 AM
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I don't agree with many of the comments you have made. I don't see the world the way you do, of which I'm grateful, because you seem angry and pessimistic about male/female relationships and interactions in a way that is not going to inspire positive change. You may not like my opinions, but unlike many who inhabit certain subreddits on reddit (or many other social media platforms), I don't view the world with just one filter, and won't be changing my mostly positive outlook in response to your …
/r/MensRights30/05/18 12:03 PM
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The bigger picture doesn't resemble your personal truth the way you think it does. Many women aren't entitled, and many men aren't slaves.
/r/MensRights29/05/18 11:00 PM
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I will simply point to my other comment on this thread, that looks at the bigger picture and the world I want to live in. Have a good day.
/r/MensRights29/05/18 06:51 AM
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Maybe the punishment would be something akin to community service - talking to schools/community groups about what they have done, so as to encourage discussion around ramifications of making false allegations to the police?
/r/MensRights29/05/18 03:36 AM
1

First of all, tweets are often made by twits. (yes, my bias against Twitter is showing) Secondly, I agree that those who falsely accuse others of rape should face significant legal AND monetary consequences. Not sure you would ever be able to make the case to list them as a sex offender (based on current laws), but imprisonment and paying legal fees/punitive damages should apply. I don't believe that most women think false accusers should get away with it. Sadly, within certain feminist platform…
/r/MensRights29/05/18 03:34 AM
1

Some great points made.
/r/MensRights29/05/18 03:27 AM
4

A male candidate could just as easily have included "dad". Not sure what you don't like about this sign.
/r/MensRights29/05/18 03:25 AM
2

How do you think things really need to change? Is it that you don't want your classmates to joke around anymore? It's not clear from what you have written. I've known about International Man's Day for a number of years. I think if you lead the charge in marking that day in some way with your class, that would be a great start to the change you might like to see.
/r/MensRights29/05/18 03:22 AM
3

America seems more divided than ever since Trump won. There are many reasons for this, but it has to be said that he and his administration engage in divisive rhetoric on a regular basis. If the women you know can't engage in a civilised discussion with you about your concerns, it indicates they have bigger problems than you do. It's worth trying to have these discussions one to one initially, where you are most likely to be heard and also hear what they really think. People need to stop avoidin…
/r/MensRights29/05/18 03:19 AM
1

Looking at the bigger picture here: Generosity and kindness towards others are wonderful traits to nurture in our society. I know many kind, helpful and generous men. I also know many kind, helpful and generous women. I try to be one of them. Our communities would be far worse off without them, and I find the few posts below that harass OP for her expression of gratitude to men like this really sad. If every exchange you have with someone else is about what you can get from them, your world will…
/r/MensRights29/05/18 02:54 AM
1

You actually don't know the details, so why assume the worst?
/r/MensRights29/05/18 02:46 AM
-1

Oops! Your bitterness is showing.
/r/MensRights29/05/18 02:44 AM
1

Sure, but that is hardly a secret. It's up to the consumer to always question, and not just accept everything they read as fact.
/r/MensRights28/05/18 04:18 AM
4

Write to the company expressing your thoughts. If enough people do that, it might make an actual difference.
/r/MensRights28/05/18 02:09 AM
0

Ah, well I appreciate the clarification. As I stated in another comment, I've seen many articles and news items relating to issues impacting women from minority groups. There seems to be plenty of support from feminist groups for this. I agree that not all feminists have an interest in issues that don't directly impact them. I see that as their individual failing, rather than a failing of the feminist movement.
/r/MensRights28/05/18 12:07 AM
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I am a feminist and egalitarian. I subscribed to this subreddit to find out more about the issues that concern men. I expect to get messages challenging my beliefs and values and asking me to justify them. I'm tired of doing this, when my presence and engagement in this thread shows I take issues impacting men seriously. One of the biggest problems with OP's question is that I don't think the answer "Yes, I've met a reasonable feminist" is the answer he wants to hear. It seems you can only be a …
/r/MensRights28/05/18 12:03 AM
0

I agree that Feminism is for equal rights for all women. But you are using your first hand experience with one woman to extrapolate across the entire feminist movement.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 11:53 PM
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I don't agree with the premise of OP's question. I've seen plenty of articles about issues affecting women from ethnic minorities. Unless you are just talking about the Reddit site (If so, I will give you the benefit of the doubt, because I'm fairly new).
/r/MensRights27/05/18 11:50 PM
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Sorry guys. I have no sympathy here. The cast were told about the policy. It applies to everyone in the cast. The management made a decision and I imagine they want to make everyone know that this is a policy that will be acted upon.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 11:43 PM
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A very testy interview. The interviewer is clearly trying to twist everything he says to support her decision to view him as anti women. Nowhere did I hear Jordan link out of control women's behaviour to the fact they are weaker than men. I get the feeling OP just came to that conclusion himself. So out of control men are more likely to be physical and out of control women are more likely to use gossip, innuendo and reputation destruction. The rest of us (who are in control), might actually be d…
/r/MensRights27/05/18 11:38 PM
0

Oh please. You are taking offense because that is what you do on here. You are used to thinking the worst of everyone and being defensive.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 11:16 PM
1

Well, supposedly it was 16 women interviewed, not 18, so let's start there. :) Not all 16 were claiming they experienced inappropriate behaviour personally. Given this whole thing has come from an investigation by CNN staff, I think questions about their findings are best directed to them.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 11:13 PM
2

It's not misinterpreted if the author of the article itself uses the phrase harassment to summarise the incidents. It may not be as accurate as you would like it to be, but I understand why people will repeat this. Maybe the real problem is that these days there are blurred lines in what constitutes sexual harassment. Depending on who you speak with, it can be anything from unwanted glances to uncomfortable proximity, to verbal comments and more. Some of the alleged conduct I read about in the a…
/r/MensRights27/05/18 02:18 PM
1

While we are working on being precise, I actually said some had claimed they had experienced harassment (fair enough, I could have said, been on the receiving end of unwanted attention, or touching, etc, but there are articles that characterise this under "harassment"), and I also said other claimed to have witnessed it. I also pointed people in the direction of the CNN article, so they could read it for themselves, not take my summary as gospel. I don't claim to have all the facts and certainly…
/r/MensRights27/05/18 01:58 PM
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It was a joke. I see it missed its mark.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 01:32 PM
1

I think it's the article from CNN, which are the ones who investigated this in the first place, that will give you the most detail on what was said by whom. It is that article that claims some of his actions were sexual harassment. I don't need policing, thanks. I'm not part of the MeToo movement and don't have any barrow to push in this. Feel free to focus your energies on those who are equating the allegations with sexual assault.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 01:07 PM
-1

Do you feel better now? BetterOut than in. =)
/r/MensRights27/05/18 12:21 PM
-2

I don't think you were looking for a response, so just ignore this.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 12:20 PM
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Generalisation alert! :P
/r/MensRights27/05/18 10:54 AM
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If you want to know in more detail what the allegations are, you will find the article on CNN (and I'm sure through other sources as well). As I stated previously, there are no allegations of sexual assault. I have mixed feelings about the allegations - first of all they are not from 18 women. Some women claimed they had directly experienced sexual harassment and others had claimed they witnessed this behaviour. I came away thinking if any of the allegations were true, the most he is guilty of i…
/r/MensRights27/05/18 08:02 AM
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No allegations of sexual assault have been made. There have been allegations of sexual harassment.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 07:54 AM
11

Congrats for supporting your children. Enjoy your financial independence!
/r/MensRights27/05/18 07:52 AM
8

Absolutely. I can understand why some people, who engage with others predominantly online, would develop a very skewed and dim view of others. For the most part, people aren't as terrible as they are made out to be online.
/r/MensRights26/05/18 11:36 PM
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Totally agree. As a woman, I do the same and have experienced at worst, no response, but generally thanks. It's called manners.
/r/MensRights26/05/18 11:34 PM
1

People will always have opinions, but I am more interested in the court's decision on the request than the sniping that goes on from the sidelines.
/r/MensRights26/05/18 11:32 PM
1

I understand your sentiments, but given she wasn't found guilty of murder ("She was cleared of murdering her former partner but found guilty of throwing a corrosive substance with intent."), a life sentence without parole was not an option. People were predicting she may not even get a jail sentence, so 12 years at a minimum is a much better result than they forecast.
/r/MensRights26/05/18 11:10 PM
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I'm sorry, but you stating these hypotheticals as fact is not an argument. (And I was not trying to make one of my own, just acknowledging the outcome of this one court case). How about just focusing on this tiny bit of good news, just for a moment?
/r/MensRights26/05/18 11:06 PM
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Yes. It was a horrific attack on her boyfriend, that eventually led to him taking his own life. At least this shows the judge recognised the seriousness of the crime.
/r/MensRights26/05/18 11:01 AM
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I don't think you know what evidence actually is. Have a good day.
/r/MensRights24/05/18 01:13 PM
0

Where? Not in this thread. Post proof or retract your claim.
/r/MensRights24/05/18 01:05 PM
1

twerp. LOL!
/r/MensRights24/05/18 12:21 PM
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It's ok, I read back then did some more research of my own and posted you a quote and source that backs my previous posts. Have a lovely day.
/r/MensRights24/05/18 11:50 AM
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We don't have enough information to know who is in the wrong. Your comment seems to assume she is. We don't know if that is the case.
/r/MensRights24/05/18 10:49 AM
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It's posts like this that make some people think this subreddit is misogynistic.
/r/MensRights24/05/18 10:44 AM
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Ok, this story directly contradicts itself: “We can’t land at the airport because of the smoke,” said Terrence. “We’re taking women and children first.” Hilda Leveque and her husband Howard were among the first wave of evacuees on Tuesday to arrive in Winnipeg." It seems at least one man was allowed to evacuate early.
/r/MensRights24/05/18 10:39 AM
1

That's not what it does. It's your interpretation of what it does.
/r/MensRights24/05/18 08:58 AM
0

https://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/crime-fire-courts/victims-of-stray-gunfire-often-women-kids-researcher-finds/ "More than 40 percent of the victims of stray gunfire are women and nearly one-third are children, according to a new study by a UC Davis researcher."
/r/MensRights24/05/18 05:47 AM
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Or you could post what I missed - having read a lot of the thread. I've cited my source a couple of times throughout the thread as well, but happy for you to offer new information, rather than smarmily telling me to read.
/r/MensRights24/05/18 05:32 AM
2

Yes, talk to the police about your conversation with her.
/r/MensRights23/05/18 11:53 AM
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No, because children exist, and they make up a third of victims....1/3 plus nearly 1/2 leaves less than a 1/3. Maths is king!
/r/MensRights23/05/18 11:50 AM
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http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/publish/news/newsroom/6483 this article goes into a little more detail and shows that the majority of people hit by stray bullets are, in fact, women. Stop the outrage!
/r/MensRights23/05/18 11:49 AM
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The problem is your claim that over half are men is incorrect. The study states 1/3 are children, nearly a half are women, so that means men make up less than a third...http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/publish/news/newsroom/6483
/r/MensRights23/05/18 11:47 AM
1

Actually no, the study also says 1/3 of victims are children. So that would mean less than a third would be men.
/r/MensRights23/05/18 11:46 AM
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I wasn't directing my remark at you, but it's evident in many of the comments on this thread that that is what some people think.
/r/MensRights22/05/18 12:00 PM
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Anecdotal experience does not make a generalisation correct...except in online forums like this. Your classmate was wrong and ill informed in saying what she did to you. Having said that, it's a huge stretch for those commenting to act as though all women think and act the same way.
/r/MensRights22/05/18 11:21 AM
1

Hm, I appreciate your input. I would agree just from my own experience that men are more actively interested in politics than women. I don't agree on quotas either. Having said that, I think it would be difficult to make the blanket case that women with positions of influence and power within Labor ranks are lacking the skills to do the job. Maybe the case could be made individually in some cases, but the same could be said for the men. I'm all for merit based appointments. However, just because…
/r/MensRights22/05/18 06:04 AM
1

I think there has been a standard practice in the media for too long to focus on the number of women and children impacted by hardships, injustices and tragedies, rarely mentioning the men who are also impacted. However, I don't rely solely on the media to form my understanding of the world. Those who do are automatically limiting their knowledge and understanding of how the world works. While I'm enjoying reddit in some ways, I find the echo chamber created on some subreddits disturbing. The fi…
/r/MensRights22/05/18 01:04 AM
5

How many women join the Liberal party and run for seats as compared to the Labor party? I wonder if a lot of the discrepancy has to do with more women being left leaning?
/r/MensRights22/05/18 12:18 AM
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If you read the article it mentions men being impacted as well. I think you are drawing a low bow for this one.
/r/MensRights22/05/18 12:12 AM
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I can just picture a guy with two phones texting himself this thread just to post it on sites like this. The content is fabricated. But don't let that get in the way of some confected outrage.
/r/MensRights22/05/18 12:05 AM
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This is tragic. I will never understand how a parent can want to hurt their ex so much as to kill their children. It's the most selfish act ever.
/r/MensRights22/05/18 12:02 AM
3

Bizarre. If your wife/partner/gf shows you a positive pregnancy test, the natural next step is to go to a doctor to confirm the result. Make sure you go to that appointment.
/r/MensRights21/05/18 11:59 PM
1

Yes, circumcision is carried out by some families, but it's not universal. FTR I'm against circumcision unless there is a medical necessity for it.
/r/MensRights21/05/18 01:05 PM
1

That staged fall was more melodramatic than any I've seen in a soccer match...
/r/MensRights21/05/18 05:32 AM
1

I have mixed feelings about this. I'm assuming this is for a school that doesn't have a uniform (I didn't have a choice what to wear to school - just the school uniform). There is nothing wrong with having a dress code that encourages neat attire suited for a school day. Why are strapless tops, tank tops and mini skirts deemed appropriate for a school day? You are there to learn, it's not a fashion parade. I'm all for teaching boys AND girls how to have respectful relationships but that doesn't …
/r/MensRights21/05/18 05:17 AM
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As a woman, I also find the idea abhorrent...
/r/MensRights21/05/18 05:11 AM
2

I vote for the latter. I also need to point out that the way phrases like "toxic masculinity" and "feminism" are used often bear no relation to their actual definition anymore...
/r/MensRights21/05/18 04:51 AM
2

It's comments like yours that give me hope that we aren't completely lost as a society. Thanks. :)
/r/MensRights21/05/18 04:48 AM
0

Please list those ways.
/r/MensRights21/05/18 03:35 AM
2

Sounds like we are in agreement, to a great extent.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 08:25 AM
1

I don't disagree and I think my previous comment shows this.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 08:24 AM
3

I see you don't agree with what I said. You have tunnel vision and won't acknowledge that not every man/woman dynamic is the same. Sorry, but this isn't your own personal echo chamber. Other people have valid points of view to share.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 06:57 AM
1

I think gun control is one key factor, but certainly not the only one, that would make a difference.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 06:53 AM
0

They aren't. Please take a breath.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 06:52 AM
1

I think it should read "broken boys are not broken girls" - but maybe that was not the author's intent...
/r/MensRights20/05/18 06:52 AM
1

You can point out the link, but of course it doesn't justify their choice to kill. That demonstrates a serious lack of emotional regulation and conflict resolution skills. We should be raising children to be resilient, but also kind, empathic and considerate of others. That would do a lot to prevent things like this occurring.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 06:49 AM
1

"It's obvious that this isn't natural, and it's the result of society's unequal treatment of young boys and girls." I'm sorry but that is a huge claim to make. I would agree that mental health services should be boosted greatly, but this is a really complex issue, and it's hard to make blanket recommendations about what would help. This is not just about the gun culture in the US, or young, disenfranchised men - there are a range of factors at play that need to be addressed.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 06:46 AM
1

She will receive punishment. Sentencing is in the next 2 weeks.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 06:42 AM
1

Yes, I'm going to be waiting for the sentencing with interest. Let's hope she gets the maximum term.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 06:41 AM
1

As much as I am dismayed at this outcome, I did some digging to find out more. She was "cleared of murder but found guilty of throwing a corrosive substance with intent." She will be sentenced in the next couple of weeks, and I hope she receives the maximum sentence possible. I read an article about this young man's suffering and eventual decision to end his own life. Absolutely tragic!
/r/MensRights20/05/18 06:40 AM
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Combine forces, lobby politicians for the changes you want, etc, etc. Discussion on threads is the first step - it doesn't change anything if there are no practical steps taken off line.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 06:33 AM
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Women aren't always in the wrong. Men aren't always in the wrong. Women make mistakes and behave badly at times. Men make mistakes and behave badly at times. Relationships are difficult and require commitment and compromise. If you aren't interested in that, don't have one.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 06:29 AM
1

All I can suggest is that the MRAs use their contacts, that I'm sure include journalists to encourage this is investigated further. Having said that, I don't buy into the stereotyping of groups based on the individual actions of a few. Many people don't, and I feel that is what should be encouraged, rather than a tit for tat continuation of lazy reporting.
/r/MensRights18/05/18 11:04 PM
1

If that is the case, I guess you could write in and suggest they look into the gender side of things, if you want to see them investigate it further.
/r/MensRights18/05/18 11:00 PM
1

They haven't made a point. They have made a claim based on a hypothetical scenario. I'm also not trying to debate them. They will believe what they believe.
/r/MensRights18/05/18 10:59 PM
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Ah yes, the giant conspiracy of MSM.
/r/MensRights18/05/18 07:55 AM
0

I'm not sure what you mean - the stories about these panic calls do state who makes the call.
/r/MensRights18/05/18 04:20 AM
10

It's one thing for her to feel hurt that he lied to her about his income, but given she has admitted she hasn't wanted for anything, why does she think she has claim to his savings?
/r/MensRights18/05/18 04:19 AM
3

"Even more remarkable is that feminists lobbied for it. It's the only example of feminists doing things for men that i can think of apart from a amicus curiae filing by NOW in support of a law suit over the draft back many decades ago. Although they never followed through. I suspect the motivation was to say fuck you to men like "men need to do their fair share of baby changing - lazy assholes using the excuse of not having any changing facilities" Oh, I noted you acknowledging feminists being i…
/r/MensRights18/05/18 03:18 AM
1

As DavidByron said "Even more remarkable is that feminists lobbied for it." (re. changing facilities in men's restrooms). So while it could be true that feminism isn't focused on men's issues as much as I or many others would like, it does engage in efforts to advocate for equality for other groups. Also, your comment is taking us on a tangent from my original response to David. Just acknowledging that I'm aware of that.
/r/MensRights17/05/18 08:33 AM
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How do I figure that thrway's claim that "no one cares when boys suffer" is not reality? From the simple fact that I care, those I know care, people I work with care, and that there are millions of people across the world who care. The very fact we are having discussions about issues like circumcision shows people care. The fact that millions of people DON'T circumcise their children shows they care....need I go on?
/r/MensRights17/05/18 08:29 AM
1

This post is just an opportunity for people to have a rant. Enjoy!
/r/MensRights17/05/18 05:57 AM
-3

I'm sorry that is how you feel. It's not reality, and no where close to true.
/r/MensRights17/05/18 05:51 AM
2

After reading most of the comments below, I just want to say you should do what suits you and your needs. If you are more comfortable with male medical staff for a procedure, request them. If you don't feel strongly one way or another, that's fine too. :)
/r/MensRights17/05/18 05:50 AM
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Wow, you really can't just give credit where credit is due, can you? Also, just try being happy about the good news - there is some out there.
/r/MensRights17/05/18 05:27 AM
5

And what "bitch" are you referring to? Reading the article it seems both the eyewitness and the detective involved were men...
/r/MensRights17/05/18 05:06 AM
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