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DebateBetter_Librarian_494/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 02:24 AM
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I'm responding to your claim that men are conflating. Yet you agree it exists. You don't know what has been said or done to these men. All you know is what you've seen. And as a woman, you're not going to get a front row seat to what other men are dealing with. Many women aren't hateful, true. But there's plenty that are. And how they treat people is entirely dependent on how they feel about them. You don't know how much hate is in your friends or family if you've never seen them in a position t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:32 PM
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Ah, Hank Green, I didn't recognize you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:40 PM
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Women don't usually keep their opinions of men they don't want that mild. Women talk about unattractive men like they're trolls in a cave that need to be slain. They hate the men they don't want. They want them gone, they want them away, they want them to be handled so that they never have to deal with them again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:40 PM
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Having female friends in your early adult life will really show you how inherently different your existence as people are. This part. I think the thing that really makes these conversations hard is that men are usually paying attention more and for longer than women/girls have. Women don't notice this stuff until it's thrown in their face and they have to deal with it. Until that point, most assume that everything with other people is fine if everything is fine with them. You see it in the way s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:37 PM
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Is that really why you're getting a mastectomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:32 PM
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And if we're not useful enough, then we're broken utilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:38 AM
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he's an incel redpill loser who has the lowest possible opinion of her for having sex The language you use to describe a man that just might have a mild judgment is very telling. But it supports my point about most women hating to feel judged, even slightly or by proxy. the chances she'll sleep with him again become much, much lower, If she's serious about herself, it'd just be a flat zero. I'm not touching someone that's judging me in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:34 AM
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Provided that you're speaking about the men "on here" like in the OP, there's not much I can really say. Because the perspective on women here is very bleak, and there's lot of nasty back and forth that reinforces the negative attitudes. That said, I'll give my two cents on the incels. And of course, their primary and often only desire from women is sex What else is there to desire from people that want nothing from or for them? For the ones here who have never had sex, women are a hostile myste…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:17 AM
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Though I guess if this were the case many men just wouldn't pursue anything with women anymore The "juice isn't worth the squeeze" talk isn't coming from nowhere. I think a lot of men (not on this sub) are politely sitting on a lot of baggage that there is no socially acceptable way for them to unpackage. Things they've seen, been done to them, had to endure, etc. blah blah blah. And they're learning that their outlooks on life, on love, on partnerships, are not shared by their counterparts. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:32 AM
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Neither behavior makes sense or should be encouraged. I agree, I just didn't want the opposite to go unmentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:27 AM
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Many seem to think of people as easily predictable biological machines. Well, if they keep doing predictable things and repeat the same ideas in the same ways, oftentimes unprompted, it's going to give a bad impression of how unique people are. No way in hell can somebody decide to do something more than what their instincts tell them to. In this space, that is all that the women ever tell them. And they're told to go stuff it if they don't like that. To me acknowledging humanity means acknowled…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:24 AM
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You're assuming she even like white dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:12 AM
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I think most young men are alienated from their humanity. I'm sure they see themselves as people, but that's just a word. It's the concepts behind it that you need to be more worried about. What does humanity mean to an isolated, largely unloved, untouched, undesired, unseen, person? Sounds like a burden or a curse. That's why you see so much stress and Blackpilled thinking. They feel stuck in something they can't get out of. And all the intellectualizing and game-ifying is them rattling their c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:10 AM
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Women are people. But it seems like women tend to think that that entails more positive feelings than it tends to. Just because someone recognizes your humanity doesn't mean they'll trust you, or like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:06 AM
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I listen to women all the time. And most men have to learn not to listen to women. I try to listen to whoever has the most reason to be honest and has the firmest grip on reality. That varies from situation to situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:50 AM
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It's only ironic if you think women actually care what the men they're sleeping with think of them. They just want to not have to think about it, it doesn't matter what the man really thinks. They're not asking a lot of questions. They don't want a man that honestly sees them as blameless, they don't need to, just one that wears the mask well enough for them to get their rocks off without feeling like they're gross for doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:44 AM
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men being bitter about some women sleeping around and then blaming all women for this behavior is similar to women having poor experience with some men and then hating all men for that.' They do that. It's not right, but it's not like being wrong ever stopped them. We do not hold responsibility for what other women are doing. True, but who is "we"? It's hardly a rare thing to find a woman that likes a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:31 AM
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Men aren't the ones arguing that women don't like casual sex. Women are. Talk to your sisters, bro. Men know that women fuck around at their leisure and don't think hard about it. This isn't a revelation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:27 AM
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You just love him for his money
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:12 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:28 PM
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I am honest about everything I say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:27 PM
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What makes it so crappy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:26 PM
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I get the feeling you don't like Marx for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:44 PM
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It's ironic that you're reacting like a Manchurian candidate to a book recommendation
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:55 AM
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First off, you're too damned young to be on here drinking this poison. You need to find something less mentally scarring to doomscroll over. Learn some history, read some Marx, go outside, do anything but be on here. As to your question. How likely/unlikely is it to find love as a man? It's not something that can be easily quantified, but I don't think it's the right approach to put the end outcome ahead of the process. The end outcome is a successful relationship that lasts a lifetime, that bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:53 AM
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You're making the assumption that the woman is applying a reasonable standard and that her feelings are accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:32 PM
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whether someone wants to be hit on by a guy who can’t take no for an answer. You're adding in details to the hypothetical to sane-wash the idea. Sometimes women don't like men talking to them regardless of whether they can take a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:55 PM
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You do realize not every woman goes to kink parties right? You seem to be very fixated on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:48 PM
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They’ll go to venue half naked then act like a man so much as looking in their direction is a violation of their sacred chastity. Some women have this kind of Diana Complex where they are simultaneously ambivalent to men in the abstract, but deeply punitive to their prescence in practice, mostly want the company of other women, and don't seem to care about the double bind they create for other people. If you didn't want someone to see you naked, bathing in the spring, don't be naked in the middl…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:43 PM
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No, because a public place is a shared space. A civil approach isn't harassment no matter how unwanted it is, so long as whatever boundaries established afterwards are respected. When women skip the establishing of boundaries and claim that they should be assumed or are unspoken, they're trying to force an unequal social contract between themselves and strangers which will inevitably be broken. Expecting people to treat you like a 17th century noble and assume they have no right to speak to you …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:40 PM
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a shorter relationship would result in less baggage, No. My whole point is that the whole idea is overly simplified because people can't deal with how varied and contextual the emotions involved in how people bond actually are. The baggage is worse, the more you cared. And the more you care about how much you cared. And the more you resent why you cared and the more you hate what you cared about. And all to the degree that you do these things in each individual case. Some people can have sex wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:20 AM
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but why does the baggage grow with sex, but not grow without sex? That's what I said in the last paragraph, I think it absolutely does. how can it simultaneously also not have any affect on how attractive the guy is to her? But I have no clue what you mean with this part.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:02 AM
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You say we and our a lot and I get that since you two are a unit now. But back then, how much of this was mutual and how much of this was you getting on a page he was already on? Edit: Or vice versa. I'm showing my bias here, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:52 AM
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I don't think the pair bonding idea is about having sex, it's about the emotional fall out of having sex with someone that you then go on to break up with/cut off/actively dislike/hate/are afraid of. It might not be explained that way, but I think that's because of the limitations of the people spreading the idea. It's basically an idea that baggage grows with each attempt at a relationship, each hookup that goes nowhere, each time you're vulnerable with a person that will ultimately not matter …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:41 AM
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What changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:32 AM
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Because in real life, most women do actually have some options. And there are many ways to be attractive. Options might not come up as often as is liked, they might need to go to different spaces to find or be found, but women have fair chance to find men that are into them. Whatever they look like, most normal women have a shot with a normal man. You don't need DDD's, a perfect face, and weigh 90 pounds to be noticed. Beauty is more relevant to being judged and valued outside of basic sexual de…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:18 AM
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Well some of them prove me wrong. I'd like to see more, thank you very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 11:53 PM
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Look, if it's that important to you, I can't take that away. I can't make anyone see this differently if they don't want to. I won't fight you about it. But seeing interactions like this is why I mentioned height in my earlier answer. Most women feel like this to some degree, and most women aren't budging on it. You can't be surprised if guys who don't clear that hurdle come into adulthood feeling trapped with no options. If women having to crane their necks up to see their partner's face makes …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 11:24 PM
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neutral and everyone should be with their equivalent lol That's not neutral, that's proportionate. Neutral is worrying about other traits entirely and rendering height as irrelevant to dating as the shape of your ears or nose or eyelashes. Most people are less than 7 feet tall and and most people are above or just short of 5 feet tall. This is the normal range of height in human beings. And discriminating within it is just primitive. I don't think people should be matched up according to height,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 11:11 PM
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Height is probably the one I see the biggest amount of agreement on with women. Even the mildest opinions on it are still some version of "I prefer a man that's taller than me" or "I don't care that much but tall is nice". Expectations around money are a bit more varied, but the majority opinion is still on the side of "have more than or as much as me". Which in an economy that's propped up on stilts, is not something that's going to inspire a lot of hope in men, especially young ones who do not…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:55 PM
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One thing that I notice and sympathize with is the convergence of opinion among women on certain topics. I think that's what does the most damage. When men feel that they don't have a lane, they're liable to lose their shit a little. That's what I think creates the siege mentality and draws them to the pseudoscience. The internet allows for trends to bubble up and spread in a way that's fast. (you can argue about how organic it is because we know that algorithms push certain types of content ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:46 PM
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Yeah, this Darwinian idea that just because what a guy does gets him laid means he's doing something "right" needs to die. Sometimes people don't do well in dating because of personal problems, sure, but sometimes the culture simply isn't in a place where you're going to do well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:12 PM
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And what do you think that means for men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:38 AM
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I need paint on the canvas, Leo. What did he say and was it different than what you're hearing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:38 AM
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What happens when half your group has no trust in you or what you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:29 AM
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And when you experienced this, what did you do? Did you ask your partner about it? Did you ask him the question in the post? Paint the picture for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:21 AM
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So even you are disconnected from your complaints.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:56 AM
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Is someone choosing porn over you right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:32 AM
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Why do men (spare me the “men are not a monolith” rhetoric. I’m speaking in generalities) think these actions wouldn’t make the woman they’re with insecure? Because they're not entertaining actual women. Nobody has an affair with porn. Exes are another thing, and no man tells women that they're insecure about an ex being around unless they are playing defense. It's women who have their exes around and try to make it not a big deal. If you’re always pining for other women and novelty I'm pining f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:24 AM
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For love. But I doubt you'd understand the concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:20 AM
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It's the women that look for a protector. I just want to be a person. honestly don't think men should protect me I agree that it shouldn't be their job. like why would they? But I don't agree that there's no reason to protect women. Life is precious, human life especially. We should all have a higher stake in each other's wellbeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 07:41 PM
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You certainly feel safe enough to say that, so it can't be that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 07:33 PM
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True. But if the bait wasn't believable, it wouldn't catch on. There's something about the relationships between men and women where men find it more likely that women are collectively shit talking, belittling, dehumanizing, and basically appraisal-auctioning them than just trying to avoid ending up dead in a ditch. And women need to work on that. Cause it happens enough that I can't say that guys are making it up. The best defense I can ever give is that some women will use it in an honest way.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 02:23 PM
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Ah, the Commonwealth of Go-Fuck-Yourself-And-Be-Poor
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 02:20 PM
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As is yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 02:10 PM
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What area is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:57 PM
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You should, transparency would be helpful
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:54 PM
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That's a kinder answer than I expected. I agree wholeheartedly. For what it's worth, women shouldn't have to have their guards up the way they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 05:34 PM
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The word "single" is pulling a lot of weight in my comment. Men and women who are married are out of the discussion. Their needs are (presumably) met and don't have much of a voice in the dating online talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:42 PM
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Most women are ust going through the motions of what feels/looks/sounds like what they're used to. And that tends to look unfeminist. But that's not the same as patriarchal, as these women are exercising a lot of cultural power and authority, they're just not conscious actors in doing so. It's privilege without thought. And that leaves men pantomiming an ideal that doesn't fit their actual circumstances. We're expected to dress and act like we run the place when we're taking stage directions fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:34 PM
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The saddest
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:27 PM
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We'll see how long applying for grants lasts under this administration.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:23 PM
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I agree and I’m not sure how American men can change that culture in a way that makes them feel comfortable and thus willing. I don't think it can come about from a place of stress and lacking. I think guys with the healthiest relationships with the people around them can get their needs met more easily than the men who are cripplingly lonely. When you're already connected, a little more connection here and there is easy to ask for. But when these guys are alone, it's a bit like saving someone d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:57 PM
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I don't think most guys actually know the ins and outs of how divorce law works. I certainly don't. It'd honestly be nice if there was a lawyer on the sub who could talk about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:52 PM
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The biggest problem in those relationships are the women waiting on men to make their lifegoals happen. If you feel you've been unmarried too long, propose. And if your proposal isn't agreed to, leave. It's a boundaries question.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:50 PM
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Most single women are single because they want to be, people that don't want to be married aren't marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:48 PM
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You ever play a game called Imperator Rome? They have an Iron Age Mod
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:24 AM
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Most men who are already in the RP or incel trap are neither reasonable nor respectful. That's fair. But they're not the only ones with problems. They're just the ones who are so far along the process that they don't care how it comes out or across. incel uprising Society is more complicated than "no pussy = rebellion", but seriously if you want more of those reasonable, respectful men, you have to take your weight off the scale. If you insist on taking your frustrations out on the men you see a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 12:42 AM
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A white man who would turn KKK just because a black dude called him a "cracker" was already racist. He's already dangerous. As a Black guy, allow me to work on your analogy. Cause women minimizing everything they don't go through personally is a stereotype that I should hope you don't want to fall into. It's more like if a white guy lost his to job to a Black Person, everywhere he looks he sees Black People getting a leg up, they're doing better than he is at every thing. The white guy is hopele…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 12:20 AM
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Given that the other guy called women evil, I'll take a crack at this. I'll keep it short. Can you give me an example of men wanting help from women, and women simply dismissing them or providing no empathy? There are routine deflections to most "acceptable" male issues like suicide or war that end up either centering the women's version of the problem (suicide is bad for everyone so it's extra tasteless for this one) or blaming men for being the source of their own issues. The first is narcissi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 12:08 AM
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Can I come there?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:56 PM
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How do you think men's lives should be better, I'm open to listening
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:55 PM
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Sex as a topic and a concern is perfectly valid. It's important, and it's important to people's quality of life. And women talk about sex as well. They want satisfying sex lives and partners that fulfill them. You really can't take away from anyone. And it's not fair to ask that. brainwashed by feminism to not want to be submissive to men (ignoring all the vulnerabilities and consequences that come with it)| shut up about taking women's rights away. But this is about respect, and that's more tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:24 PM
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“when women have money, men don’t get money” Men are expected to take care of those close to them and they are also expected (and generally don't have a problem with) date people who have less money than them. The position that men finds themselves in when they are successful is that they become a resource for their wider family, for their partners, and possibly even their friends. A man's money is never just his money unless he's completely cut off from a community. And that's a role that make …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:13 PM
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I can't take that away from you, but yielding space to them is how they take over. It's how they corrupt what we love in life and in other people into something ugly. I'm sure you know that. I hope that you find a way to get back to what you used to enjoy in that. Cause that's not fair to you. They're the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:59 PM
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I didn't say you were around them willingly. All the same, that sounds very scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:31 PM
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Sometimes I wish feminists and women might be open to talking about men’s issues. I’ve posted about that before. But I totally understand why they might be turned off by it when men don’t discuss women’s issues, Giving people who are ostensibly organized around gender equality a pass for not discussing gender equality because other people who aren't organized at all for anything don't is enabling. But I'll leave that alone. You can’t expect women to take men’s issues seriously, when you point ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:20 PM
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I agree, it's an idea that's rooted in magical thinking. The more women identify with it, the less they value their own conscious intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:35 PM
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So men have no right to be safe?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:34 AM
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The "You want it" - mindset and the absolute lack of bodily autonomy some guys give a woman once they find out she engages in casual sex is wild. It's a gold rush mentality, get it while it's still there. I don't imagine that's nice to be on the other end of.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:16 AM
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Oh, so you've been around fascists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:14 AM
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Is it your assertion that who cares about something dictates whether or not it’s a valid point? Normative thinkers have a hard time with applying base principles. Their filter for good/not good is its social acceptability, and women disrespecting privacy is very socially acceptable. I can't imagine that she really understands what's wrong with this. She's talking about it as if it's a "if you have nothing to hide, why complain" when that's hardly the concern. The idea that men should be protecte…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:10 AM
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You can't create a new standard if you allow saboteurs at the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:44 AM
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When the cat is this far out of the bag, it has to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:06 AM
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Can't do that when the bad people are the ones cutting the checks and hiring the police. It's either us or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:50 PM
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You're supposed to choose people that treat you and other people well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:46 PM
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Free speech is already dead. It's just that censorship is not applied to right wing content. If they're unquestioningly listening to strangers on the Internet, be that Jordan Peterson or Fresh and Fit clowns, they're losers by definition and deserve whatever happens to them. The sad reality of life is that we're on the boat with impressionable people. There is no getting rid of them. You either do what's necessary for them to grow past it, or you allow them to be used by whoever doesn't dismiss …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:44 PM
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I try to give answers that speak for people than just myself, so thank you for the co-sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:10 PM
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Oh my bad. I thought there was a typo or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:58 PM
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Are you suggesting that police are good people?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:55 PM
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I've seen decent guys reward the biggest unreciprocating asshats with their undying friendship and loyalty because **s?**he met one of the above criteria This part. Treatment is something that people often need models to understand what's possible or acceptable. And I think a lot of men internalize in life that relationships work however women decide they do and that they don't have much of a say. Because they've never seen anything else modeled or they've found nothing different in their own li…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:53 PM
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Worked in France, worked in Russia, definitely worked in China.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:39 PM
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I think most men who end up in dynamics like that take for granted that no woman will actually treat them in a way that's reciprocal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:38 PM
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But what is a good person to you? Is it a general good or a self-serving one?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:35 PM
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The response to terrible people thriving is to tear them down and exact consequences on them. Not making excuses for them and shrugging your shoulders.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:35 PM
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It's the opposite, but go off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:34 PM
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There's value in community.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:18 PM
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fwb? Where's the problem? This isn't something that I'd draw a red line against, but it does say a lot about a woman's attitude toward sex and commitment. Namely that they do not have a connection in her mind. And commitment isn't just exclusivity, it's emotional investment. A woman that doesn't even have to care that much about a man to have sex is kind of an emotional flight risk for any man that wants a more committed relationship because her threshold for engaging in sex is relatively low. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:53 PM
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This is a trade-off that cannot be negotiated around. The only way you can achieve the results you're looking is mass hormone therapy. And unless you give men enough Estrogen that they circle back around to going through feminine puberty, they'll just be depressed hormonally unbalanced people. Testosterone produces certain comorbid consequences in human beings. Positives come with the negatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:35 PM
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Men here regularly, tell women that their career, their finances, and their aspirations are irrelevant to the men as wives. If everything that women gravitate toward professionally creates less room for men to be their partners, then that makes sense to think. Women who don't make space for men in their lives are a bad fit for men that want women in their lives. Well, if you don’t give a shit about finances of who you’re marrying, then you don’t get to sit here and bitch and complain if you’re t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 01:54 PM
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So find a church woman with a moral compass and you'll be fine
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 01:08 PM
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My main takeaway is that if you have a business deal and one person holds the cards and says they're not interested, they have the right to make tough ultimatums. If you can't meet the ultimatum, then that's your problem. The saying that "Women are in business, men are in love" comes to mind. And while that isn't the exact case, I do think there's something to address between the two points. There is a balance of emotional investment and material investment that exists in all committed relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 01:02 PM
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Women didn't create the current dating market, if they were in charge it wouldn't work like this. And what is "this" to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 12:34 PM
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The thing about these women is, if it was as simple as giving them the answers, we wouldn't have the problem. Men do not want to see women fail, there's no reason for it. If they actually wanted to learn from men's experiences and input, it's right there, and it will be tailored to their needs and experience as best as men are able to advise. They don't want information. They want experiences, easy, unconscious, smooth and automatic. No thought required.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:16 PM
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You've gotta take it for granted that nothing you have experienced is applicable to straight dating. Unless you have tried dating women in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:04 PM
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Men can understand just fine. It's accepting and excusing it that is hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:58 PM
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Women cultivate attitudes towards men that make the idea of being with men deeply off-putting, that combined with their sexual segregation (women mostly spend time around other women), their generally low libido, culturally reinforced ignorance (women are discouraged far more from curiosity toward the opposite sex at younger ages), dwindling social infrastructure to facilitate men and women meeting each other organically, lesbians, bisexuals, and the general apathy that women have toward men as …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:19 PM
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They should, and women should be more self-aware of their limits and learn how to compensate for it. Men get angry too, we're not enabled when we act on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:02 PM
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Agreed. You can only treat people so badly before they leave. And putting young men into a position where they're either a scapegoat or a golden child to compare all the other men to is just an abusive dynamic. Wounded women have way too much leeway in playing out their baggage with broader society. It's not healthy, and it just reproduces the kinds of pain they ought to be trying to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:52 PM
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One pet peeve that I have when it comes to people is when they embody stereotypes unironically. It shows a lack of self-awareness and social awareness. So many women are accused of only noticing the most impressive, richest, visible men. And then they go and do exactly that, and frame every argument around what "Men" do when it's really what "Millionaires get away with" and what any normal man would spend years in prison for. But normal men have no consideration. They're props on the stage. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:28 PM
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This place is a lighthouse for female narcissists. It's the only reason most of them would even engage with a conversation like this, to feel superior to an acceptable target that they can say whatever comes out of their twisted minds to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:20 PM
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Like yeah jail sucks, nobody’s gonna argue that, but wouldn’t you feel kind of ridiculous? Likening the experience of an American woman to that of a Holocaust survivor is definitely a take.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:15 PM
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The focus is usually on sexual crimes which aren't crimes of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:09 PM
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If your truth is that "everyone who disagrees with me is a crybaby" that's not truth, you're just a bigot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:07 PM
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American Feminism isn't about Equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:05 PM
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The President has stolen every election he's won
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 02:38 AM
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No? Did I?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 02:31 AM
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Just because bad things happen to women doesn't mean that anyone thinks they're okay. It's a non-sequitur in a conversation about acceptability to bring up things that people are literally serving prison sentences over.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 02:21 AM
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ad homs You don't know the meaning of the words.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:44 AM
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As well as sexual violence, DV rates and the push against women's reproductive rights. Crimes and fascism are not acceptable. They simply exist and people have to deal with them. Preferably quickly or even pre-emptively.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:37 AM
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The starting point for your father was hostility. Whether it was the threat of it or the acting on it. The starting point for men (boys really, cause kids read these posts) is not hostility. It's confusion, it's fear, it's anxiety, it's sadness. These are not people in a position of power to hurt you, nor do they start out thinking about it. But if you continue to push people into a cultural corner, they're gonna stop feeling bad about what you say and just treat you like an enemy. You cannot bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:32 AM
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Millions of muslim men that hate women... I'm not engaging with Islamophobia. It's a weak-minded critique of a caricature of people you don't know and don't live around enough to hold your tongue when generalizing nation's worth of people. Virtually all of the male school shooters openly hated women, and plenty of them had loving female family members. Family abuse or neglect is probably the single greatest throughline in all school shooters. Just because you have female family doesn't mean they…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:16 AM
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I didn't know "women having opinions" was invented in the last few centuries. Misogyny exists because women exist and there's always a reason to hate or dislike something that exists. Especially something that is as close, intimately close, practically inescapable as the opposite sex. Every man and every woman had to live in a word where there was someone somewhere that did not like them for one reason or another and made that known. Misogyny is the name we give to the dislike of women for the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:05 AM
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Are you really using 7th century history to justify why being an asshole to men in 2025 is justified. Are you cracked?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:02 AM
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The idea that you shouldn't create more threats to yourself really shouldn't be that hard to wrap your head around. If you don't like snakes in your garden, don't leave them lots of mice to eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:00 AM
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Honestly, it does kind of feel like Starship Troopers in a way. You're kind of hoping that it's all one big elaborate joke, that it's some kind of allegory that you can learn from. But then you realize "oh, they really meant all this without a hint of irony."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:59 AM
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Their recourse is to learn how to use weapons and protect themselves. They're not rabbits running from wolves, they're people with two legs and two hands and a brain they can use. Haranguing strangers on life is equally pitiful and pathetic as anything else they judge men for. It's unproductive, stokes bad blood, and does nothing to actually address what real threats they face. women still have fear drilled into their heads in a way that men don't. Sounds like they need to go to therapy and stop…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:55 AM
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It gives off the vibes of "why do you make me so angry I have to hit you?" It's more of a "talk shit get hit" message. Part of living in society is exercising the restraint to not provoke other people needlessly. And that comes with the opposite expectation of others not to provoke you. You're not outside of this dynamic, you're in it. Because you're an adult. And you don't live in a world without consequences. If you make enemies, those enemies are going to want to hurt you. It's an A>B>C progr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:47 AM
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Practicality is a hurdle that many people struggle with nowadays. So long as people are stuck on the "I want to be heard" part of discourse and not the "acting on what we should have learned" part, we'll be stuck shouting at people to stop making their problems worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:41 AM
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First of all, "universally unacceptable" is a huge stretch. There's a real world outside of the internet and in that world, nearly nothing that is spoken by the men on this sub is remotely acceptable, and plenty of what the women say is basically lunchtime-at-work level conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:39 AM
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So is a campsite without a fire, would you want to freeze instead of being warm on the off-chance a forest fire starts?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:37 AM
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