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This advice doesn't benefit men at all, just wait till your 30 bro. They imagine all 30 something men as out of shape losers with dad bods or creeps, but this crumbles to the ground the moment the 'right' 30 something man shows up in their real life. Men in their 30's often look 'very' good. They fill out muscularly and if they stay lean they look much more mature and 'manly' than men ten years younger. Some men become better at 30, others don't. Other men start balding, gaining weight, etc. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 08:05 AM
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Men are told to be highly moralistic while women are told the exact same opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 03:51 AM
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That's an accurate view of how most women see MGTOWs unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 11:49 PM
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You assumed that all women are predisposed to expend their money on material goods, never mentioned anything about the legal system or anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 11:47 PM
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Most people want to expend their money on material goods, that's what capitalism dictates & promotes as a mode of production.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 10:50 PM
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They all WANT to spend it on WANTS. You're claiming that women spending on wants is an absolute here dude, no need to deny it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 10:42 PM
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You claimed that all women (meaning an absolute) spend their money on material goods without giving any explanation or statistical support.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 10:40 PM
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It's not a real defined concept, just a buzzword for male behavior that feminists don't like under an specific context.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 10:30 PM
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They all WANT to spend it on WANTS. That's an argument worthy of r/braincels. Do better dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 10:15 PM
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Some women do, others don't, specially the unattractive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:40 PM
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If you don't want women and you wanna going your own way why are you spending so much time talking about women? People often demonize what they couldn't have, most MGTOWs didn't have meaningful relationships with women so nowadays most of them demonize women because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 02:49 PM
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Women can also provide their own resources nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 02:47 PM
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I respect genuine MGTOWs, but most MGTOWs are just incessant whiners unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 02:39 PM
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Sexual harassment is a crime
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 04:09 AM
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Ending in prison because of sexual harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 04:00 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 02:49 AM
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I will say that the dating market is fucked up in modern days for a variety of reasons I agree, it has become too systematic for me, if romance died, it was in this decade. You've to worry a little too much about your SMV, your chances, your sexual status, etc. It's not just fun anymore. I was given the idea that dating was a heavenly open world game where everything its possible since I was a kid, now I realize that it's a highly competitive and difficult real-time strategy game.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:10 AM
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Yeah, it does. This case is very sad to be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:33 AM
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Don't fatshame please
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:52 PM
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Besides which, being sexually attractive to the most men possible is not exactly a primary goal for most 40 year old women. Exactly, the wall constantly revolves that the only issue women have is being sexually attractive for men. The truth is that the 'wall' that certain subreddits like to talk about does kinda exist, but it's not a bad thing. The only way it's a totally ruinous thing is if you also believe that a woman's sexual value is her ONLY value, which is just silly. There's only so many…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:32 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:09 PM
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Imagine a society where people have sex freely and the children are raised by collectively by the community, with government subsidy that everyone pays into. It grants both men and women the freedom of bachelorhood, while giving a better sense of community. People raised by the community would have a diverse set of role models, and not ruined by a rare set of abusive parents. That's how saiyan society works.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 07:06 AM
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Both Feminism and TRP are fundamentally confused whether they want to take Feminism and push back to traditional roles, or exploit it and become PUAs. I thought PUA is not effective anymore. A major reason for this is that the initial impetus for young people becoming ideologues is a radical rejection of the values of their environment of origin Don't forget the internet thus much easier access to information compared to 15-20 years ago. It's no surprise that the place focussed almost exclusivel…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 07:01 AM
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It's your personality teehee
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 05:19 AM
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I wish that human socialization was either more honest or ideal. I wish that righteous and kind-hearted men would also find righteous and kind-hearted women more often so they could love each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 09:23 PM
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I have no sympathy or empathy for women any more, they incentivize negative behaviour and then act the innocent victim when it blows back on them. They cause their own problems and deserve whatever happens to them. That sounds more like the Black Pill instead of the Red Pill
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 09:19 PM
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Rape. Imagining living a great life until 50 when you get shot or being raped since you're kid until 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 08:02 AM
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In short terms, betabuxxing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 06:25 PM
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mongrels Now that's a very forced 14 year old 4chan kid comeback.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 03:47 PM
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Not really
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 03:36 PM
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Keanu reeves has visibly aged even if we all know he's not aging like an average man at all. Yeah, that was my point, he showed a slightly decrease on looks compared to most men that show a very significant one. What's important is we've settled what we agree with and disagree with and that's nice. Oh ok then.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:37 AM
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Face is fuller, skin is saggier, more wrinkles, different hairline, there are lot of details. Are we talking about most 40 year olds or Keanu Reeves and Lure Hsu? The point remains the same, they get worse, not better. That's why I said in the OP...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:27 AM
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keanu reeves' aging is still a bit noticeable. Your Lure Hsu is an asian woman, asian women age well and make-up is particularly effective. But Kate bekinsale would be a good example despite aging is still noticeable. The point is, none of these people became hotter, they all decreased, it goes one way, never the other (unless fat is in the equation). They decreased very little, a line of expression in the forehead is not a considerable decline. Let's say they were an 8.3 in their 20s but now th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 07:19 PM
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No, that’s simply not true. Status is the primary determinant and women trade looks for status all the time.. Primary determinant when they're ready to settle when they're 32 maybe, not when they want a long-term relationship that includes sex with a good-looking dude. A meta-analysis of research published from 1965 to 1986 revealed the same sex difference (Feingold, 1992). Across studies, 3 out of 4 women rated socioeconomic sta- tus as more important in a prospective marriage partner than did …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 06:50 PM
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Ok so it exists cool. Yeah, none denied that women age. Why are we arguing? You’re a strange one. r/NiceGirls
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 12:19 AM
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You: the wall is made up because it’s from guys angry they couldn’t get dates. No, I said that the wall is overexploited and overused mostly by resentful MGTOWs. Me: I had plenty and plenty of dates but still see the wall. So can you see that women age?. r/wow I was not angry because I couldn’t get dates, but see the wall. Therefore the wall is real.] Never said that you're angry, I said that a good portion of MGTOWs are. it doesn’t matter who the majority and minority is so long as the existenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 11:43 PM
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Yes, most of the things women find desirable are psychological. Or at least, much more so than the things men desire in women. Not really, most women are attracted to primary physically traits such as a fit body, eye color, jawline, hair style, smile, etc. Of course, later the psychological aspect comes to mind but primary attraction is key, the most charismatic chubby dude doesn't slay as much as the 6'3 handsome dude. Due to the nature of how those things work (things like status, confidence, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 11:28 PM
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But what other argument do you have against him? He has to elaborate a better argument, not me. He stated that he also believes the wall is real. Is he merely an outlier for not having incel-reasons for the belief? Believing that 20 year old women are better looking than 40 year old women isn't an incel thought. It's an obviousness that most people acknowledge about dating since the modern era.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 10:20 PM
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No, not high school girls. Just girls younger than him.... Still, most of the time you don't see the working-class middle-aged dude with the smoking hot college girl. Average Age difference at first marriage in the US is girl 2 years younger, at 2nd marriage girl 5 years younger As an hypothetical example let's say that I'm a middle-class 50 year old dude, not a rich one nor high status one. I met a 45 year old woman at a coffee shop, she likes me and I like her so I'll probably marry her in a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 10:08 PM
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Only women do that. Young men also get older woman if they need to. Men want young and pretty. Powerful and rich men want young and pretty. I don't think the 50 year old carpenter from a middle-low class neighborhood is obsessed with dating high-school girls. Men do not require resources/status in a mate and they certainly do not require more resources/status the more resources/status they have. The more resources and status a man has the more chances to get a young and pretty girl. Most young g…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 08:56 PM
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I see flaws in your reasoning. Then elaborate a better argument instead of both dumb people and smart people believing the earth is round. Very childish and misguided example for what you were trying to claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 07:38 PM
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But what about those of us who always had (and continue to have) willing sex partners (although they are younger than me now) and see the wall hitting women their age? A minority compared to the majority of MGTOWs who resent women of their age because these women didn't date/have sex with them when they were teenagers, making them involuntary celibates. Your impression of who is talking about the wall is flawed. Sorry. Based on what?. Look at r/ mgtows for example, it's mostly an incel sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 07:33 PM
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more like the often amazing gulf of attractiveness between age 37 and 38. Not according to most MGTOWs. It's not that her looks go downhill, it's that they turn to dogshit remarkably quickly, for women but not for men. Dude, you can see MGTOWs whining about 50 year old women not looking like 20 year olds. Not anything surprising about it, people can become unattractive in just a year, that's what casual comsumption of alcohol and drugs will do to you. Having Hollywood actresses as the only point…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 07:02 PM
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Most MGTOWs like to overexploit and overuse this because they are resentful that they couldn't get teenage girls when they were also teenagers. Like I said, it's obvious for most people that most 40 year old women don't look better or identical to 20 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 06:51 PM
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No, you were presupposing that "once women need the status/money less they will desire the status/money less". I wasn't "presupposing" anything, that's another strawman. Just mentioned that self-sustainable women don't need to chase after a man exclusively because of his resources. Thats not how it works. When they "need" it less, they desire it "more". Yeah, most upper-class desire more wealth even if they don't need it , that's how it works since the beginning of the industrial age.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 06:47 PM
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The higher the income/status of a woman, the higher the status she seeks in a mate and the more status is important to her (in contrast to your theory above), This is a strawman, never implied that upper-class women don't go after upper class men, that's obvious. This seems counter intuitive in first glance, but it isn’t really. It turns out that when you give women “more freedom to chose” (either by making them richer, or making the culture more equal) they use this new freedom to choose more o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 06:11 PM
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Well, if you're referring to the wall as a remarkable decrease in fertility then I agree. But it's also worth pointing out that a good portion of people seem to not care about reproduction, can't give an exact number right now but you get the idea. We're living in the age of materialistic consumerism. More men and more women are putting more value on material needs and appetites and less value on long-term relationships and of course reproduction compared to 15 years ago. With the increase of se…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 05:21 PM
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You're the kind who will say salma hayek got better looking with time am i right? Salma Hayek doesn't come into it. I provided two examples of two people in their 40s (Keanu Reeves and Lure Hsu) who don't seem to have decreased on looks since their 20s. Why do you think that makes them not be attracted to higher status men? It's not that they're not atrracted to higher status men, it's that the resources they provide are not a neccesity to them like they were 70 or 80 years ago since women can o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 05:06 PM
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I agree, for what I've seen most dudes who talk about the wall are in their 40s & 30s and resent women because they couldn't get dates or sex back when they were teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 04:59 PM
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Attractive traits are a proxy for fertility and genetic fitness The thing is that women nowadays can retain these attractive traits even if their fertility is decreasing, expensive creams, collagen suplements, plastic surgeries, etc. If you were to consistently attempt to impregnate a series of let’s say 40 women spread evenly across ages 20 to 45, the younger ones would consistently provide healthier and greater numbers of children Nowadays men and women seem to be less and less interested in p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 04:45 PM
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Your thoughts are bad because 1) you misunderstand the wall 2) you misunderstand SMV and 3) you misunderstand the affect of age on masculinity and femininity. Care to elaborate here?.How Am I misunderstanding all 3 of them? Women don't get better looking after 20 Some women do. men don't get better looking after 30. Some men also do. This has never been about comparing good looking 40 years olds to bad looking 20 years old, but about comparing one person when they're 20 and when they're 40. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 04:38 PM
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The wall and menopause go hand in hand. Yeah I agree, most women of course look better before menopause. When women get too old to make babies there’s no longer a biological reason for her to be beautiful. There's personal reasons (related to ego and self-esteem) for them to still look beautiful. Obviously most women who are experiencing menopause don't focus on their beauty as much as the women who don't have menopause. Men don’t experience an equivalent to this because our biological job is to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 04:28 PM
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The definition of the wall isn't very clear to me. It changes from user to user, others claim it's about beauty, others claim it's about sex-appeal and others claim it's about reproduction. We're also not evolutionary adapted to sedentary lifestyle yet we still do it, looks like a neo-darwinist claim to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 10:27 AM
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Wasn't aware of it. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 10:19 AM
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Outlier exceptions do not a rule make I know, that's why I specified most 40 year old women don't look identical to 20 year old women in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 10:08 AM
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Elaborate a better argument, this looks like a copypaste from incels.is or mgtow.com
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 10:04 AM
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It should come as no surprise that a woman’s attractiveness and fertility peaks in the 18-25 range and than begin to exponentially tank afterward Men (and women) aren't atrracted to fertility, they're attracted to superficial visible traits in people, most of times traits that are imposed and promoted by their government and media. I don't think that a 14 year old girl with overweight problems and acne has more 'SMV' than a 30 year old woman with a fit body and porcelain skin. Evolutionarily spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 09:31 AM
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Never said that most "post-wall women" are still in the game. Just that there's still chances for good-looking mature women out there. Yes, most women settle in their 30s so that's also an obviousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 09:05 AM
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Nope, she didn't take care of herself, wasn't that attractive even when she was young. Lure Hsu on the other hand
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 09:00 AM
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Tom Cruise or George Clooney. Them along with Will Smith and Keanu Reeves have "blessed genetics" but there's also women in their 40s who look young, though they don't seem to be american nor Hollywood actresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 08:50 AM
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A fit, stylish, attractive 37 year old will have an easier time finding an attractive partner than an overweight and/or poorly styled 21 year old. Adding a lack of alcohol and drug consumption to him/her and yeah, I totally agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 08:17 AM
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So then therefore the negative image is a valid one. It always was, aging is not a negative image, it's a natural process, the people I posted were lucky enough to don't have a significant decrease in their looks at 40, but most likely they won't look like that in 20 years. Happens to men just like happens to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 07:57 AM
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Eh, yes that was my point. It's obvious that most 40 year old women don't look identical to 20 year old women, something that people knew since the modern era (maybe even before). MGTOWs like to exaggerate and over-emphasize about it a lot. It's not even an stereotype, it's a well-known perception that MGTOWs like to disguised as a new millenia discovery.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 07:47 AM
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I'm 1000x more attractive than I was 10 yrs ago at 25. Well, some people wouldn't reach their peak until their late 20s-30s, Emma Stone, Ryan Reynolds and Meghan Markles are clear examples of this. That's why we reference the wall Most MGTOWs see the wall as previously beautiful women becoming very unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 07:41 AM
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I'd argue that men and women are pretty close when it comes to aging biologically. But women can age worse thanks to external factors such as alcohol and drugs. Think about this, if you are a 17 year old dude and almost have never drink you'll get notice that you'll look the exact same way at 25 compared to others who were casual drinkers since they were teenagers. Drinking and doing drugs are bad for men, but even worse for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 07:25 AM
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I think you can find plenty of examples of older women who look good in their middle age- That's what I wrote in the OP, middle-aged woman can still look good but of course they won't look identical to a 19 year old girl. She's certainly not going to remain a sex symbol into her 60s like male actors often are either Most Hollywood sex symbols are in their 20-40s, not in their 60s. I'm sticking to my statement about american women aging worse than other women around the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 07:09 AM
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But stereotypes and generalizations exist for a reason. Most of the times to perpetuate a negative image
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 07:06 AM
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you can't deny that aging is worse for women than it is men. I've seen that most women (still) put a lot of importance in their appearance. Most of the times that I've seen a discussion between two girls about economics, politics and history ends with name-calling about how they look. Older women get swapped out for younger models, or start playing non-sexy roles. Halle Berry used to be a sex symbol well into their 40s, Marylin Monroe was the most beautiful woman at 36. What I'd argue is that no…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 06:47 AM
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Why do I need to defend other MGTOW? Never implied that. Anyway, back to the topic of "the wall" I think they could be doing a much better job of accepting it when it starts to happen namely by mental preparation instead I see a lot of denial, wishful thinking and desperate clinging. A good portion of women do, not every woman's experience resumes to the manosphere or the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 06:29 AM
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There are ugly dudes with good amounts of testosterone and ugly girls with good amounts of estrogen. Appearance is a random mutation most of times caused by heredity, if you have good-looking parents you may as well be good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 06:27 AM
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I think isn't that much about fertility but about the lost of sex-appeal and beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 06:06 AM
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If women were mentally prepared for aging, whatever exaggerations MGTOWs online make wouldn't bother them so much. Most MGTOWs seem to react the very same way when women do the same thing to them. I'm a MGTOW and people exaggerate things about us all the time and conflate us with incels. Who cares. Personally I don't have any problem with genuine MGTOWs, not having interest in women and focusing on one's self isn't bad at all. But seems like most MGTOW forums and subreddits have been co-opted by…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 06:00 AM
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Not a woman, but yeah. I also agree with that. Most women seem to care about their looks more than men do. Yet most of the neurosis about the aging seems to come from women, and the sales data will reflect that fairly reliably. At worst you have dudes taking finasteride or shaving their head bald and move on Look at MGTOWs and incels, guys resentful against society and women because they couldn't get teenage girls when they were teenagers. Also, in worst cases, guys calling teenage girls "prime …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 05:39 AM
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Also will happen to most men, it is what it is. But yeah I agree, building a life exclusively centered on personal looks isn't beneficial at all in the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 05:20 AM
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Many 40 year old women are still attractive but many no longer are. Very few 50 year old women remain attractive. Totally agree, when I think about a good-looking 40 year old woman I think about a Milf, when I think about a 50 year old woman I think about my mom, my aunts, a politician or some historical figure (this is coming from a guy in his early 20s btw). Older guys actually have to continually up their game if they want attractive partners. Exactly, the vast majority of 50 year old dudes d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 05:18 AM
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Pretty much, I could say a girl is a 5 but my best friend who shares my same interests could say that girl is an 8. There are people who look very mature in their late teens-early 20s just like there're people who are in their mid 30s-early 40s yet look like teenagers, dating and looks are vastly subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 05:08 AM
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Motorsexual
/r/MGTOW31/01/19 06:06 PM
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Regular people (both men and women) age way better than famous people.
/r/RedPillWomen24/01/19 05:15 PM
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Consume alcohol very rarely, or not alcohol at all. Even casual consumption (i.e: reuniting with friends to take a beer each weekend) makes you age worse.
/r/RedPillWomen24/01/19 05:02 PM
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My grandpa used to say that all masculinity is positive masculinity. When I was a child I used to not believe a word it, but as time progresses I notice the old feller was really clever man.
/r/RedPillWomen24/01/19 04:54 PM
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Thanks for your honesty
/r/RedPillWomen22/01/19 05:06 AM
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Good response. But the only question that matters in this case would be: Would you choose a fat and unattractive dude who shares your same religion, values and politics instead of a tall, fit and good looking dude whos values, religion and politics differ from yours?
/r/RedPillWomen22/01/19 12:13 AM
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