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| 10 | Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid careIt’s not about ease. It’s more about developing a deep bond with your child and knowing what’s going on in your family life. But every family has an arrangement that suits them. Good on you for finding an arrangement that works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 01:38 PM |
| 1 | Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid careNo of course not. Otherwise I’d already be a stay at home dad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 11:58 AM |
| 9 | Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid careYeah, picking up the pressure while they recover from child birth is one thing. But willingly choosing to get pregnant doesn’t give a lady a right to unilaterally decide long term child rearing arrangements. Both parents have parental responsibility. Who gave birth doesn’t change that. If you agree to have a kid under certain conditions, that’s what should be followed unless a new arrangement is otherwise agreed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 11:54 AM |
| 16 | Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid careBro I’d love to be a stay at home dad. Having a strong wife that goes out to work. Now that is the domestic ideal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 09:32 AM |
| 1 | If you dont like women, don’t date them.Yeah, that’s just MGTOW, no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 05:07 AM |
| 4 | Lots of the frustrations in the current dating world are from **some** men refusing to accept that most women are generally more valuable than most menAlthough what is and what ought are related, he did say he was neutral on whether this was right/ wrong, natural/ artificial. I dunno. It just seems to me that the point of his post was to dunk on the hypergamy believers than to discredit the hardships of women. Like, every time I mention a privilege that I benefit from because of my race, I don’t necessarily always have to caveat it with “although this is a privilege I also face more serious downsides”. Whether or not it’s appropriate to add th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 07:50 PM |
| 6 | Lots of the frustrations in the current dating world are from **some** men refusing to accept that most women are generally more valuable than most menWhat you’re saying about objectification and commodification is correct, but OP is not supporting that the world should be this way. He is giving a description of the world as it is. As you’ve said, objectification and the restraining of women’s autonomy goes hand in hand with “women are the prize” traditional attitudes. This, if anything, supports OP’s description. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.If this were the case, it would be women working for the affection of men, but men were the suitors, competing for the woman. Most women didn’t even get a say in who they married until somewhat recently. It was their dad’s that wanted them to be married. The whole reason men ever had the expectation of being the earner, provider or protector in The first place is because the woman has historically been the intrinsically valuable prize to be earned; not the man. Women have been expressing vulnera… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 05:34 PM |
| 2 | r/Bumble proves men do, in fact, have optionsThat’s true. All I can say is that Hinge is generally very good at ensuring real people use the app and tinder is generally better than bumble for that. You would have to see what people’s general experience is with bot profiles across dating apps | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 07:10 AM |
| -1 | r/Bumble proves men do, in fact, have optionsHow is a bot an option? I never said anything about successful relationships. I’m just talking about getting a date man. Getting a relationship is even harder for sure tho. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 09:19 PM |
| 3 | r/Bumble proves men do, in fact, have optionsSurely you’ve seen the similar tinder flowcharts and the comparisons of the Hinge match lists between men and women’s I think probably those are more indicative of the number of how many dates men are getting. Tinder has a sizeable amount of bots but still more of the profiles seem real compared to Hinge. It really depends on the study done, but unless they accounted for verification and discounting bots, this seems quite dubious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 05:37 PM |
| 2 | r/Bumble proves men do, in fact, have optionsI’d like to believe that but tbh mate, it doesn’t sound super convincing. Isn’t the whole premise of bumble that women are encouraged to take the initiative of matching and messaging first and whatnot? Doesn’t seem like it would be a good indicator of general dating strategies and markets. Even then, compared to apps like Hinge, from the time I used it, Bumble seems to have way more bots. If I were to be convinced, I would need to see how many of these profiles actually have bios, verification m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 05:11 PM |
| 4 | The root of misogyny is jealousy.It is a jealousy but it’s also a response to being made to feel redundant I think. Because patriarchal standards haven’t been lifted symmetrically and that process has been sort of staggered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 07:39 AM |
| – | Do men get crushes on older women?All the time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 05:21 PM |
| – | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessWomen really keeping the patriarchy alive. So much for progressive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 02:21 PM |
| 2 | Who told men being nice would lead to sex?This case is being heard in the jurisdiction of the inceldom under incel law | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 11:31 AM |
| 1 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenThis would be compelling if the main reason for getting abortions were that women didn’t want to be pregnant. But abortions are normally justified in the fact that people don’t want to raise a kid. And it’s the raising of the child which has a longer term greater impact on autonomy than being pregnant. Autonomy is the main justification for abortion. If a woman is unsure about whether a man wants to get a paper abortion then the reasonable action is the risk averse one I.e. choose to abort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 11:28 PM |
| 2 | If a Straight Men's Attitudes Towards Other Men Were Like Most Women's Attitudes Towards Other Women, People Would Conclude the Man is Gay (or Bisexual)I mean, sexuality is fluid. Men are in less of a position to explore that side of themselves in modern times, but it’s fair to say that most people can be queer at some point in their lives. Think about it like this. There was tons, and I mean tons of gay sex going on in the Roman Empire, in Greek cities and so on and so forth. The Spartans and the stoics, so really the sorts of people hyper masculine guys would idolise. It’s in modern times that male homosexuality is concealed for fear of being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 08:05 PM |
| – | Hypothetical choice of daily visitor: You can only pick one.Still no because you get horny for a bit and then you’ll feel like shit after you get taken care of. Sex is nice, even if it is not the most intimate, but sex without intimacy is only so good | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 10:38 AM |
| – | How did you acquire your GF / wife / casual relationship? (or your last one)Feeld. And actually it was an outlier in the sense that they texted first. She’s awesome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 08:14 AM |
| 1 | Hypothetical choice of daily visitor: You can only pick one.My answer still applies surely. What would that change | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Hypothetical choice of daily visitor: You can only pick one.I would choose either my bestie or Michael Jackson. Definitely not option A since I can probably do a better job of that myself than most others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 09:30 PM |
| 0 | If men focus on compatibility, they wouldn’t have to ‘play jester’ and be ‘Dance Monkeys’ on dates.Maybe? I dunno, you'd be better off asking the question in a post, but my friends are just the people who happened to be around me. If the relationship went cold, it would fizzle out automatically eventually. If they were real ones, we would be there for each other. That's just my experience. No, but unless someone is going up to you to ask you out, they probably won't say anything about whether you're attractive or not. Saying nothing is not an indication that they want me. So, if you're going … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 06:54 PM |
| 1 | If men focus on compatibility, they wouldn’t have to ‘play jester’ and be ‘Dance Monkeys’ on dates.Not literally anyone, but my criteria aren't particularly strict for a friendship. Just be warm and friendly and be a generally ethical person. I didn't choose to meet any of my platonic friends. They are just people I happened across in the course of education, work over a hobby etc. If I only dated women I knew found me attractive, I would be dating exactly 0 women. For me to know that before I started dating them, they would have to first tell me that they found me so before I asked them out.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 06:27 PM |
| 1 | If men focus on compatibility, they wouldn’t have to ‘play jester’ and be ‘Dance Monkeys’ on dates.Knowledge of compatibility criteria comes with general dating experience. Assessing whether a woman fits the criteria comes with specific dating experience. To get a date in the first place in the hetero ecosystem with somebody who is not already attracted to you, you have to pander to them, Same as getting a job. The jobs don’t come to you. You pander to the job, because they are the ones who have the options and the choice. You compete with others for the job, so you pander. To keep the analog… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 01:41 PM |
| 4 | When will people admit that masturbating to lesbian porn as a woman is extremely gay?I’ve seen discourse here about similar topics. That men who watch power about cross dressing aren’t queer. This isn’t that far removed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 11:40 AM |
| 4 | Why do men complain about women choosing assholes but simultaneously shame men who are simps and treat women with kindness?I know bro. U interested? Don’t know who King Von is so he can’t have been all that. Al Capone died with untreated syphilis eating away at his brain like a moron. Doubt he was happy in the end and he’s a clown for how he acted. I’m just pointing out that “why would virgin abuse a woman when that is who they’ve been longing for?” is not a take that’s grounded in reality.abusers seem like nice people and manipulate you. They’re not all gangsters and bikers and delinquents and dropouts or drug deal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 10:29 PM |
| 0 | Why do men complain about women choosing assholes but simultaneously shame men who are simps and treat women with kindness?Fair enough. But it’s one thing to say a group of people with an opinion exist, and another thing to say that anybody who questions irresponsible decision making is advocating for abuse. OP still makes out like anybody who holds that position is implicitly supportive of abuse. That’s just not the case if that’s not what they’ve said. Implying that in all cases is putting words in people’s mouths | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 09:53 PM |
| 2 | Why do men complain about women choosing assholes but simultaneously shame men who are simps and treat women with kindness?You’ve surely heard of Elliot Rodger. The incel that ended up becoming a mass murderer because he didn’t get any women? Fact is losers can be bad people too. Often times they have remained virgins because they obsess over women and that obsession is what drives them to violence. Most abusers don’t look like Chad or Tyrone. They look like ordinary “husband material”. You’re barking up the wrong tree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 09:49 PM |
| -2 | Why do men complain about women choosing assholes but simultaneously shame men who are simps and treat women with kindness?Not even the looniest red pill comment on here has implied that women deserve to be abused because that poster believes women make irresponsible choices. They want women to pick them, and point to what they perceive as hypocrisy as an appeal to women to pick them. They’re wrong about that of course, but the post makes it seem like all of these people would be wife beaters. And I’ve also never seen anybody on this sub get called a simp for advocating against domestic abuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 05:16 PM |
| 1 | Why do men complain about women choosing assholes but simultaneously shame men who are simps and treat women with kindness?Is this even a red pill take? I think it should be clear that: Making choices that will prevent you from finding somebody who is good for you is not the same as being responsible for abuse and violence perpetrated against you. The fact that you should be nice to people in general does not mean you should pander to a specific gender or sex in the hopes of sleeping with them. Your post relies on ignoring the difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 04:44 PM |
| 3 | Guys, honest answers onlyLabia size doesn’t make a massive difference. I guess smaller is less fiddling about to get straight to business but bigger might lend itself to more slow exploratory foreplay? Seems like a negligible difference from my perspective. It basically tastes like cum to me. Which is to say there is some variance from person to person but you basically know the gist of what you’re getting. I’m assuming that things like diet will similarly affect flavour but not sure about that. Aesthetically, I’m a fan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 12:07 AM |
| 1 | What is it like wanting female validation badlyEven though I get a lot of validation from men, still I seek out validation from women more. That being said, dating men has made me want validation from women less than before. And dating women has had the same effect. Once you get that women aren’t that different from you and aren’t beings on a higher plane of existence, the allure becomes less alluring. But there’s always a cultural factor in the way I was raised pushing that narrative of chasing the prize. I agree with what another said that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/26 06:06 AM |
| – | Men do not understand when women are not attracted to them and deploy ego-protective mechanismsI’m gonna say you’re wrong based on lived experience, but also, why would you discount statistical studies when you’ve used them in your own proposal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 07:09 AM |
| 2 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooBeing uncomfortable about appearing gay; not being uncomfortable about people making respectful advances. If you say so. But why have casual sex if you didn’t want to attention from different people? You could just get your own rocks off. Doesn’t make sense to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 03:18 PM |
| 2 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooWell, the key assumption being made is that beauty is quantifiable in the same way a career or intelligence is. Sexual desirability is pretty fickle in comparison, so if you want a general dating plan, it’s better to focus on women who already think you’re hot than to improve other aspects of your life purely in the hopes of attracting somebody. It’s no use saying: “I should compensate for my lack of beauty to be successful at general dating” because the bi woman you meet at the queer event is p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 03:05 PM |
| 1 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooIt’s not your job to open his mind if it hasn’t already been opened, but most men just haven’t been touched like that, so the opportunity is there if you really want it with any given guy. But I’m not understanding what filtering for pregnancy risk has to do with a desirability deficit. If anything, this suggests something alternative to OP. That the deficit is not due to inherent sexual attraction between genders, but because of the complications of pregnancy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 08:07 AM |
| 1 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooDepends what the alternative is. They can use mouths, butts, hands, thighs, chests, toys. Hell, even a massage would do something. The whole body has a range of erogenous zones. Straight men just aren’t used to anything other than regular PIV sex. Show him what you like, explore with each other. If you want that and he doesn’t want to do that, probs a sign you and him aren’t sexually compatible. If you really cannot afford to get pregnant because maybe you don’t have access to contraception or h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 07:55 AM |
| 2 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooBi and pan women do have to worry about it. Even they aren’t as rigid in their attraction. If you live in an area where contraception is available and abortion is available, this also addresses the risk of an unwanted pregnancy. If you agree not to have PIV intercourse, this also addresses the risk of pregnancy. There are so many ways to address pregnancy risks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 07:36 AM |
| 2 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooThat would require straight men to be comfortable enough in their sexuality to be exposed to queer spaces. I.e. a miracle. You don’t have to be a slut to want to be attractive to a general population. Women even dress the way they do to impress other women despite being straight. It’s about being socially validated. In your case, you certainly wanted to be acknowledged by more than one partner. So what you said about only wanting to be attractive to one person in the end isn’t necessarily true f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 06:57 AM |
| 5 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooYeah, but what makes you sexually desirable is subjective to the beholder. If I’m just dating generally, it’s useless for me to say: “this person only likes me this much. Therefore I should be compensating with x salary or y hobbies”. You should be improving yourself and enriching your life because it makes you a better person. Not because some lady might find you attractive enough afterwards. Additionally, you should not expect to get a partner. But as I said, that’s fine. You should not need a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 06:53 AM |
| 2 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooI dunno man. Queer women, nb’s and men don’t seem to fall over this hurdle of needing their male partners to compensate for a perceived lack of attraction. You are presenting desirability as something you have a monopoly on, and you are reducing it down to traditional gender roles as if that’s somehow essential or natural in all cases. If that’s what you want for yourself that’s fine and if you don’t find men very attractive that’s fine. But there’s a whole ecosystem out there of people who have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 06:39 AM |
| 8 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooRight, but you are acknowledging it is a perspective issue. OP and these comments are portraying it as a biological or otherwise gender essentialist issue. I’m saying men can and should move away from a patriarchal view of traditional gender roles. This includes moving away from the attitude that they are required to compensate for a perceived lack of desirability. And if they do that, it doesn’t mean they necessarily have to be single all their life. Even right now, they can date bi, pan or tra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 12:21 AM |
| 4 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooExactly, except this horse is a much bigger commitment. If you aren’t getting something that is fundamentally important for your investment, don’t invest. It’s rational to be risk averse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 11:34 PM |
| 4 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooExcept it’s not 100% nature is it? The fact that bi or pan women don’t fall over this hurdle like straight women do, shows that, to an extent, people just don’t want to shift their perspective on gender roles. Never had this be an issue for partners who are queer women. Nor queer men or gender fluid people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 11:31 PM |
| 8 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooI have been. And it’s gotten me relationships with men, queer women and gender fluid folks where this deficit in desire is a non-factor. As I said though, This is a sub where most of the discussion and advice is about straight dating. Most of the people complaining here are straight. I’m just saying it sucks for them a bit more. Ofc an excess of desire is harassment. Breaches of privacy and dignity are not essential to being desired. I’m sure most of the guys here aren’t cat calling and stalking… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 11:25 PM |
| 9 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooNobody needs to expect it. It probably won’t happen. That’s just what they want to be fulfilled, should they get not a relationship. So in all likelihood, they won’t end up in one. And if that happens, it’s fine. Better than being in a relationship where you’re not getting something you feel you need. The notion that women only seek to desire one man just does not line up with reality, as if they’re all looking for a long-term monogomous relationships. All I can say is what I’ve seen, and from w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 10:51 PM |
| 4 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooI don’t think anything controversial has been said here? Men want to be desired sexually the way women are. That’s a thing that is valuable to them. If a woman does not provide that desire, men will find that this woman is not providing as much value as somebody who does desire them. People know that women are seen as more sexually desirable. That’s what people want to change by complaining. That’s why values are shifting and people are trying to get each other to perceive men, women and gender … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Porn analytics reveal surplus of queer men?By that logic, bi people in straight relationships might not be queer. What about single or celibate people who otherwise lead heteronormative looking lives. To say that these people aren’t queer definitely goes against the conventional use of the term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 05:27 PM |
| 3 | Porn analytics reveal surplus of queer men?If you’re a man and you like men, you’re not straight. Just because they reject queer culture doesn’t prevent them from being queer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 09:23 AM |
| 3 | Porn analytics reveal surplus of queer men?I mean, the fact that you have watched it in and of itself doesn’t mean you are into it. But I’d say if you get off to it regularly that’s a sign. In any event, sexuality is fluid to some extent so maybe irl they don’t like men at all, but who knows | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 07:20 AM |
| 5 | Porn analytics reveal surplus of queer men?I think it’s clear that there are many more queer men than polls or official stats show. Even in queer culture there are many DL men, guys who will show to hook ups in masks. So out there, there are going to be a non-trivial number of guys who are queer but who won’t admit it. There’s also the matter of people who haven’t had an opportunity to explore their sexuality and those who are curious. But yes. If you’re into femboys and you’re a man, that’s definitely gay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 06:49 AM |
| 2 | Why do so many men have a victim mentality when it comes to romance and dating?Yes this is also a problem. Which is why men have to be independent without the expectation that they’ll find a woman for companionship. Vote with your wallet and let women know when they’re being hypocritical about double standards. Too many guys just go into dates willing to treat it like a job interview when relationships are meant to be mutual | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 05:23 PM |
| 2 | Why do so many men have a victim mentality when it comes to romance and dating?I don’t know whether you’re a guy or a woman, but as a dude it aligns with my personal experience of what people expect. It explained why you have traditions like a guy paying for the first date and picking the lady up while the lady dresses extravagantly and whatnot. In any case, technically they are equal in the end, just different because women are beautiful, men are practical. But that’s sort of the problem itself lol. At that point, you can spin it any way you want though. Does the fact tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 03:55 PM |
| 2 | Why do so many men have a victim mentality when it comes to romance and dating?Your first point is in agreement I think. Women are presented as the prize. Just something you get in life for doing well. Same as a degree or a good job. That’s why patriarchal models have the man in the active role and the woman in the passive. Hero gets the girl and all. It’s that attitude, that women are the prize, basically inherently desirable, and that men are not intrinsically desirable without external work, that explains the gap in desirability that you are pointing out. As for your se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 03:09 PM |
| 10 | Why do so many men have a victim mentality when it comes to romance and dating?The hero gets the girl kind of mentality. Having a good degree and a good education and a good salary and earning a lot does not entitle any man to sex. Women aren’t a thing to be earned like a prize. When guys see women as the prize and they think they earned them, then they feel entitled. When they get rejected, they lash out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 10:59 AM |
| 3 | Why do so many men have a victim mentality when it comes to romance and dating?Tbh mate, you’ve probably struck it on the head right there with your language. “Unselected” like it’s a job interview with a unilateral decision instead of a mutual partnership. Lot of guys want to be desired as much as they desire women. They see the feminist push for parity and think that it’s hypocritical to try and change patriarchal attitudes where it hinders women, but not where it gives them a privilege. In the same way that women COULD have a career if they just tried 10x harder than me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 10:54 AM |
| 1 | It would be easier to focus on the type of women you want rather than getting upset you cant succeed with most women.The advice is great if you want to find people who are compatible. Not sure how it addresses the we live in a society complaint though, unless you’re claiming that following this advice will allow men to attract as many of the preferred sex as physically attractive men or women can, which isn’t true. The reality is that, although this will increase the chances of attracting somebody from minuscule to small, it’s easy to say that you should be choosy when the options come to you over and over aga… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 12:52 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating?Why should employers change when its employees who are complaining about finding a job? Simple, employers are the ones who ultimately choose who to employ. If it were an even relationship, then more could be done, but that’s not reality. Employees can do something but it’s pretty much amounting to just disengaging with the job market completely, which isn’t a short term solution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 02:19 PM |
| 0 | Sex isn't worth the hoops many men jump through to get it.I don’t see why it would be homophobic. What sort of comments are you referring to and in what context are they typically made? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 05:00 PM |
| – | Women fall for the type of dudes that sayAverage sports fan psychosis | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 08:51 AM |
| 8 | Sex isn't worth the hoops many men jump through to get it.I wouldn’t say it’s hoops set by women, it’s just the competition for them that causes these hoops. But honestly, if you’re just in it for an orgasm. Just fuck a guy. They do just as good a job. Now, passionate intimacy or companionship, you do want chemistry for, and that will take searching for a needle in a haystack, regardless of hoops or whether you’re looking for men or women. Just don’t pursue it obsessively and take opportunities where they present themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 05:53 AM |
| 1 | The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argumentThat’s only true if, for example you’re renting from somebody. The law will imply clauses into your agreement to prevent the exploitation of tenants by relatively powerful landlords. Key word here being agreement. There’s a contract in place. I am not just some random guest showing up unannounced. I have an interest in the property concerned, even if I am not the ultimate owner (because I pay to occupy). There’s a reason you don’t need to give an eviction notice to burglars or thieves. Doesn’t m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 03:47 PM |
| 1 | The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argumentWell, it’s true, you cannot take a knife to the person after eviction. But you are not expected to shelter a homeless person just because they would die out in the elements, even if you knew thy would die. You are also able to use force to protect your property, which may include lethal force. In the UK we use “reasonable force” I.e. what is proportional/ necessary and suitable to protect your right. In an abortion, until viability is reached, there is no way to protect your right without killin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 07:43 AM |
| 1 | The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argumentREGARDING POINT 1. Well, that’s assuming it was willing. By talking about what’s willing or not we are now going back to choice and assuming responsibility which goes back to general autonomy rather than bodily autonomy, but let’s explore this more. Does the fact that you have had sex at all mean you are willing to have a baby? Does the fact that you have left the window open as you sleep mean that you are willing to have somebody trespass overnight? I should think not. You took the risk, but th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 01:19 AM |
| 4 | The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argumentTo an extent you have a point. I agree that general autonomy and choice about how we live our lives, commit to our futures, and assume responsibility should be what primarily justifies abortion. And in that case it should allow for paper/financial abortions in favour of dads. However, common arguments for abortion often use bodily autonomy. Not general autonomy. The baby inside may very well be a person. It may very well be an innocent person. But it’s a trespasser, and people are not expected t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 12:34 AM |
| 2 | Do you find maintaining interpersonal relationships to be easy? Hard? Necessary? Unimportant?Mmm, depends on the person. When I’m away from them, I find it very hard to reconnect. But when I’m with people whom I’ve chosen, it energises me and it feels very easy to love my friends. There are certain types of people who just melt my anxiety away when I’m with them. But when I’m away from them I at least used to be quite depressed and avoidant. I’m less depressed now, but maybe still avoidant? The swing back and forth between those attitudes was much stronger during my uni days, but has be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/26 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Normal adults accept that their fantasies will rarely become reality.The title seems reasonable enough, but the application of it seems a bit scuffed. For example, when women didn’t have the vote, it was extremely unlikely that their protests were going to result in the granting of their civil rights. Gender equality was a fantasy. But does that mean that they should just accept this? Not necessarily. You point out double standards and unfair treatment where you see it. And especially the case in a matter where the “reality” is dictated by the perception of one g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 09:16 AM |
| 1 | Some men think that deconstruction of gender norms means that they should be attractive no matter what.I mean, women can just exist and get lots of attention at first glance regardless of personality or character or earnings; traditional or alternative. Women get a lot of criticism too. Fact is, most straight guys find most women attractive just for existing and it doesn’t work the other way around. Men seem to be in denial about this. The floor of attraction is different. Maybe that’s biological. Maybe that’s socially imposed, probably both. As I flirt with both guys and gals, I try to confront … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/26 04:11 PM |
| 2 | Men Don’t Want to Be Sex Objects Either.Men who aren't themselves promiscuous don't like promiscuous people. Reeks of jealousy to me. Sexually speaking, men are turned on by that sort of behaviour, but because they tend not to be able to achieve it themselves, they are insecure. That's not to say that the problem is entirely internal to them. When people are promiscuous they are inherently risking their own wellbeing and the wellbeing of their partners. But if both parties are responsible adults, they should be respecting consent, com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/26 02:45 PM |
| 0 | Men Don’t Want to Be Sex Objects Either.I’m sure nobody wants to be a sex object exclusively all the time but the grass is always greener on the other side. Women are more sexualised than men. Men get jealous and want to be sexualised more (from time to time) because they see that as validating or powerful or whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/26 01:38 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Rejection is hot… is rejection hot? Why would I want to spend time with some be who enjoys making me feel dejected and neglected? I’ll do what’s best for my mental health, I think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/26 03:58 PM |
| 2 | What would your (hypothetical) partner think if they saw your Reddit account?Yeah true. But a lot of the issues I see people having with each other, especially the issues brought up by some of this sub’s more prolific posters, don’t translate very well into a queer dynamic and so it’s funny to watch I suppose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/26 09:13 AM |
| 2 | What would your (hypothetical) partner think if they saw your Reddit account?They’re enby so they mostly just enjoy the heteronormative bullshit from a safe viewing distance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/26 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Is the right to Abortion more about a woman's body autonomy, or simply dodging responsibility?All kids are parasites till they’re adults? Why does the ability to survive outside the womb make someone human? Are adults who need help to survive (eg because of disability) not human? Are they parasites? You can believe what you want, but the idea that a baby just develops humanity is not convincing. Generally, our freedoms are limited when we start taking the freedoms of others. Abortion is an exceptional case, that should allow for autonomy to prevail over a human life because raising a chi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 04:10 PM |
| -1 | Is the right to Abortion more about a woman's body autonomy, or simply dodging responsibility?That’s the point of my comment though? There is no difference between a zygote and a viable baby in the womb that would point to one being human and the other being less than a human. It is not as if a viable baby will just raise itself. Just like a zygote, it needs help. It does not have the capacity to care for itself. Yet a developed enough baby is still protected. The only reason viability matters is because it justifies killing in spite of a human life being taken. Viable babies can be remo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 11:18 AM |
| 0 | Is the right to Abortion more about a woman's body autonomy, or simply dodging responsibility?Well, that depends entirely on whether you accept that it would be okay to kill a fully realised human being for your bodily autonomy. If yes, then you would be correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 09:56 AM |
| 0 | Is the right to Abortion more about a woman's body autonomy, or simply dodging responsibility?You’re almost there, but the viability of a baby outside the womb does not determine whether it’s a human life or a potential life. Let’s put it this way, the exact point of viability is always changing with technology. But that doesn’t mean that a baby that would have been unviable a year ago would not have been a valuable human life a year ago. Viability does not show that a developed foetus is any more a human being than a fresh zygote. Even newborn babies require assistance to survive. They … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 09:49 AM |
| 3 | Is the right to Abortion more about a woman's body autonomy, or simply dodging responsibility?If you ask me, those should not separate points. Autonomy is how you commit to a decision. Your autonomy is crucial when, say, signing a contract to pay for this or that. That’s the basis of your responsibilities and duties. Notably, the requirements to be autonomous involve having the capacity to make a decision, a number of adequate decisions to choose from and independence. Now when you commit to having a baby that’s a big responsibility. You are liable for that baby’s wellbeing and any thing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 09:25 AM |
| 2 | How come men are so comfortable in their own skin ?Meh. It’s not really a thing you worry about when the only non-generic attention you receive for your looks is your mother calling you handsome every few years. If you get hit on or if you have friends that tell you these things, you have greater incentive to want to retain a high standard. It’s part of your perceived value. But if your perceived value is based on the money you earn or how much you can provide, then not much incentive. And if you have a lot of willpower, then you may be inclined… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 08:00 PM |
| 5 | The Manosphere does not care about men's issues: Bi-men editionEh, I mean I agree I guess. Red pill views do not align with freedom of sexuality very well. But are you claiming that they’re incorrect for calling out discriminatory behaviour? I can agree when someone calls out another person’s irrational disgust, and then criticise the same person when they start saying stupid things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 06:59 PM |
| 2 | Its not biphobic to not date bi menYes, I agree, I’m pretty sure it is biphobia. However, many people will not admit to being biphobic because it paints them out to be somebody who is not a good person, should be ostracised or whatever. I think there needs to be some destigmatisation and some distinction between actively depriving people of civil rights based on an immutable characteristic and just not liking them. Until that happens, people will never admit their biphobia, and unless they admit it, they will never learn from it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/26 07:43 PM |
| 3 | Its not biphobic to not date bi menI can’t think of any reason, but I left it open ended because I’m open to hearing a reason that isn’t based on a false stereotype. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/26 07:04 PM |
| 3 | Its not biphobic to not date bi menI mean, it depends. If I ask, “why do you have that preference?”, and they were to say, bi men are feminine, or bi men are unclean, or bi men are just gay men in denial, or bi men will cheat on you, or bi men are sexually deviant, or bi men are sexually aggressive, then it would be biohobic. Because they would be discriminating based on a fake and pejorative stereotype. I guess it’s possible to not date bi men and not be biohobic, but people have gotta be a bit more introspective rather than say… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/26 06:54 PM |
| – | No one told men that good manners and good morals translated to sexual desire within most women.Okay, most of the comments criticising OP here are pretty agreeable, but this one is a bit much. You realise they’re acting right? And they’re acting for a male audience? In an exploitative industry? I think that says more about what male viewers want than what the actresses want | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/26 06:36 PM |
| 2 | Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man.I mean, if they’re getting laid in spite of those odds of their sexuality, one would think that the way they behave with women is quite successful no? My point is, what matters is relationship experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/26 06:22 PM |
| 1 | 🤔 Quick question for the Guys in This Sub: How Many of you Are Actually in a Relationship? 👀Dating around but no relationship and happily single. Not red pill. Probably black pill. What the red pill is suggesting is ass as a solution, but the fact is that there are stereotypes, double standards and asymmetries that make it seem like red pill is correct. And to deny that is to bury your head in the sand like an ostrich. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 07:42 PM |
| 5 | Why do we have a generation of "weak" men?If you have friends who are guys and gals on dating apps, compare their profiles and the number of matches, likes etc. you’ll see what people mean. The loneliness epidemic is a very inflammatory phrase and it’s a bit overblown but the attention women get compared to men is definitely not the same. Guys could pay for sex I guess but what they actually want is the attention and to be competed for etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 10:11 PM |
| 7 | Women are OK with men decentering them. There is much more pushback from menKind of. On this sub, I agree, but on other subs, led more by women, they reject the very premise that they were centred in the first place, stating instead that they were objectified. Of course, those two things are just two sides of the same coin, and until men stop placing women in a pedestal, they will continue to both be objectified and disregarded whilst also objectifying women. But that’s what they’re angry about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/25 12:50 PM |
| 1 | Putting ego aside for my woman’s pleasure. Girls thoughts?I remember watching a video a long time ago about a woman who had a condition that made insertion into the vagina feel like broken glass for her. For that reason, her partner and her couldn’t have normal intercourse. So they used toys to compensate for her inability to naturally please her partner. Your situation isn’t quite the same, but there’s nothin wrong with using toys. It can be degrading if that’s what you want, but it doesn’t have to be. Whatever you want. At the end of the day, you mus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/25 12:26 PM |
| 2 | The DL trend exists, because there is connection between homophobia and benevolent sexism.I agree mostly. But saying it’s patriarchy doesn’t mean it’s exclusively men’s fault and certainly not exclusively current men. Also I think straight men are more open to yearning unhealthily after women and tolerating BS simply because they don’t have the option of going for a man. And also, while this is a way that some women express their homophobia and sexism, it’s also not exclusive to them. But yes, not being over obsessed with women doesn’t mean you’re gay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/25 10:22 PM |
| 4 | Even if a research proved tomorrow that women's standards are 110% delusional they are still entitled to itIf the gameplay was good, people wouldn’t give a damn that the characters aren’t sexualised. I would have preferred a game with both hot male and female characters, but having a less sexualised game is more tasteful than having just the women be eye candy imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 10:39 PM |
| 32 | Even if a research proved tomorrow that women's standards are 110% delusional they are still entitled to itYes. You’re right. In the same way men are entitled to only want unattainable women with stick figure torsos, a perfect face w/o makeup, G cup breasts and a wide backside who will also be a sugar mommy, the bread winner and have primary childcare duties. Doesn’t stop that desire or the underlying stereotypes/values from being harmful. Also doesn’t stop people from criticising what you value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 08:26 PM |
| – | Please stop telling men they are single because they lack a social life or have bad social skillsWhat you said doesn’t exclude the fact that men would get more attention if they had better social skills. You can believe in the statement and reconcile that with your example if you believe that the standards are different for men and women. Being an introvert as a straight man is ofc going to affect their status. Nobody’s going to approach them. Being an introvert as a woman is not a conparable experience | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 11:41 AM |
| 1 | Men who don't approach women, why?I’m not a creep? I’ll stick to environments where people are there explicitly for dates like dating apps or approaching men in gay bars. It may be acceptable for you, but it may not be for others. Why would I bother someone who is probably minding their own business? It’s different if you already know them, but if you’re cold approaching, you don’t know what they’re like, and your reason for approaching them is a shallow one. It’s painfully obvious your reason is a shallow one too. No thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 12:33 AM |
| 2 | Would you say missing out on young love/dating in your teens is bad?There was herpes going around my secondary school so I feel alright about starting with dating at uni. Not that it’s a terrible disease. Many people have it and it’s largely harmless. I’d just rather not have it, or at least have a responsible person tell me they’re infected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/25 12:24 AM |
| 3 | Too many men just want validation and admiration, not love.Baby don’t hurt me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/25 05:47 PM |
| 1 | Feminist opposition to legal paternal surrender/paper abortion is clearly not actually about the best interests of the child, since it disappears the moment that a woman is exercising paternal surrender on the man's behalfIt’s not like the two are mutually exclusive. But certainly, the main reason for allowing abortion historically has been privacy and autonomy. In the same way you can evict a trespasser from your property, you can evict a baby from your body. You are not obliged to use your property or your body like a Good Samaritan, helping those who need it (the baby). Your privacy allows you to terminate. Now, there are certain problems if you use only bodily autonomy as a justification. Eg, it’s one thing n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/25 12:51 AM |
| 1 | The best way to lose your virginity is to drop all your standards entirely and move up the scale from the bottom.This reads like that Michael Jordan McDonald’s advert | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 06:48 PM |
| 2 | women normalize touching on other women without consent and not holding that woman accountable.I agree, but in this case, she’s not giving consent. If what OP is saying is true, she finds it very uncomfortable. Would this situation be way easier if she just said something? Yes. But does her not saying something give these friends a right to engage in action that she feels is invasive? No. When you take the initiative like that by unilaterally hugging or touching someone, you are taking a risk. It’s on you to make sure that your actions don’t violate another person. In your case, you’re pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 03:03 PM |
| 2 | women normalize touching on other women without consent and not holding that woman accountable.Hugging each other is one thing. There’s reciprocity there. Slapping your friend’s ass is fine if you know they’re comfortable with that sort of behaviour. It happened in boys school too and I was fine with it, but I also knew many people who were not fine with it. The fact that I implicitly consented to it happening to me doesn’t make it right. The person doing the touching can’t just decide what boundaries other people have. In this case, the gf clearly finds it offensive in some way. If you’r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 02:49 PM |
| 4 | women normalize touching on other women without consent and not holding that woman accountable.I’m sorry but you can’t just touch people just because your intent is not sexual. Groping is not okay regardless. May not be sexual battery but it’s still battery. What matters is consent. Consent doesn’t necessarily have to be verbally explicit, but it’s gotta be there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 02:14 PM |
| 3 | women normalize touching on other women without consent and not holding that woman accountable.I mean, I get what you’re saying, but sexuality doesn’t matter nor should it.by that logic, it would be bad for bi or pan people to touch anyone and likewise it would be seen as non-predatory for a gay man to touch a straight woman’s body. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Feminist opposition to legal paternal surrender/paper abortion is clearly not actually about the best interests of the child, since it disappears the moment that a woman is exercising paternal surrender on the man's behalfYou yourself have pointed out how a paper abortion and a physical abortion are different. The reason you don’t get to see your child after a physical abortion isn’t because there’s some fundamental rule that parents who abdicate responsibility cannot ever see their kids. It’s because the child isn’t alive. Now there’s a policy argument to say that men will abandon their responsibilities. In that case, you can dish out restraining orders, mother’s with enough resources could make applications to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 08:35 AM |
| 0 | Feminist opposition to legal paternal surrender/paper abortion is clearly not actually about the best interests of the child, since it disappears the moment that a woman is exercising paternal surrender on the man's behalfThat’s not really how family law works. You absolutely can have it both ways. For example if parents of a divorced child move, it’s of course great for the child to not be broken apart into two homes far away from each other. But the moving parent’s interests are also considered and many are allowed to move. Importantly I’m talking about the parent’s rights as an individual. Not to do with parental rights. And the moving parent’s interests are also independently considered through the benefit to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 01:50 AM |
| 2 | Feminist opposition to legal paternal surrender/paper abortion is clearly not actually about the best interests of the child, since it disappears the moment that a woman is exercising paternal surrender on the man's behalfI agree in principle Abortion is necessary IMO because in order to assume risk for a responsibility you require capacity, independence and a range of options to choose from (the conditions for autonomy) it is only after conception that you have sufficient capacity to make a decision proportionate to the responsibility you would be taking. (If you don’t know the health of the child, the circumstances of the child’s upbringing etc. how are you expected to take responsibility for the child and the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 01:38 AM |
| 0 | Feminist opposition to legal paternal surrender/paper abortion is clearly not actually about the best interests of the child, since it disappears the moment that a woman is exercising paternal surrender on the man's behalfIt depends. I don’t think it necessarily follows that a restraining order would be the baseline remedy. In fact, there is jurisprudence to say that it can be in the child’s best interests to at least know their bio father. At the end of the day, what you’re signing away is your right to make decisions in the child’s behalf and the rights you might ordinarily get for being a parent. That much at least should be the case always. A restraining order should be given on a case by case basis on ground… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 12:17 AM |
| 3 | User flairs should include ageOhh okay. Thank you very much | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/25 12:59 PM |
| 2 | User flairs should include ageHow even do you change the user flair to be a custom one? All I can see on the mobile app are the preset ones | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/25 12:50 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think women want to talk to men?I was under the impression that they don’t | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/25 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe your life holds value simply because you exist?No worries mate. But just out of curiosity, is there a particular reason you’re interested in this information from men? (If you don’t mind me asking) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 06:16 PM |
| 2 | Do you believe your life holds value simply because you exist?Whether or not an objective good exists, everyone has a different perception of what’s good I.e. different opinions, goals, purposes. Therefore I may have many subjective values, but one value that objectively just comes with being human is the ability to be autonomous and decide for myself about what is and how the world should be. That’s not a value that’s specific to me, but it makes me want to learn more about the world around me and it makes me want to make sure that everyone around me can … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 08:22 AM |
| 1 | for people that were late bloomers in dating, is it normal or just common to have envy/resentment towards people who got to date and have relationships before they did or just people who got to date, have relationships around the typical societal norm of when people have their first relationship?I wasn’t as late as that, but my peers were doing a lot of stuff at age 16 (that’s the age of consent in my jurisdiction). This was during secondary school and college (not uni). Meanwhile I was pretty oblivious to all the social dynamics that were going on around me. I just enjoyed chatting to people when conversation arose but didn’t really go out like that. Well, whilst I’m in uni, I catch up with an old buddy and he tells me all kinds of scandalous sauce that was happening at the time, inclu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/25 05:57 PM |
| 4 | Bisexuality should be considered a privilege rather than a handicapIt’s a privilege if you want to sleep with some men. It’s a detriment if you want to be accepted by other gay men at times or to pursue a relationship with them. It tends to be a detriment if you want to sleep with, or pursue a relationship with a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/25 12:36 AM |
| – | The avêrage man has no reason to promote womên’s rightsThe neat thing about human beings is that we are autonomous and we each have our own conception of good that we pursue, whether that’s self interest, world peace blah blah. Or at least, we are as autonomous as anything can be so far in the world’s history. This autonomy is valuable and so we protect it with rights. With autonomy and rights come responsibility. And it is autonomy that governs the rights and relationships between people. Your awareness gives you duties as well as rights. If you ta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/25 08:38 AM |
| 2 | I realized recently I don't really care about a woman's past if she's upfront and open about her lifestyle.There are also perfectly valid concerns if a be partner has more sexual experience than the other but honesty is most important | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/25 11:10 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: if you refuse to approach, does that help or hurt the loneliness epidemic?On one hand, if it’s us being affected then we have to not let double standards slide and a lot of us do. I n the other hand, guys may not be taken seriously. But in the third hand, sometimes that dismissiveness is from other guys too and not only women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/25 05:05 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: if you refuse to approach, does that help or hurt the loneliness epidemic?If she’s giving little glances, that’s not communication. If she’s staring at a guy for a length of time then that’s objectively creepy. Maybe the fact that she’s hot means men will let her get away with it, but no well adjusted, able bodied adult should have interactions like this expecting reciprocation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 05:59 PM |
| – | The horde of women lusting over the full-frontal scene in House of Guinness proves that size does matter.Why would men have a positive reaction more than women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 06:13 AM |
| – | CMV: Men should deny female "victims" sympathy for choosing violent/toxic menI think most women want due process and justice rather than male sympathy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/25 06:47 AM |
| – | Women are not repulsed by men opening up about their feelings, they're repulsed by incompetenceThere’s a very big overlap. People don’t cry and vent about problems they have the solutions to. They vent about the problems they struggle with. The whole point of emotional support is to help the recipient regulate themselves to solve their problems. The idea that men are the problem solvers relies on your belief that they shouldn’t be emotional. The two ideas are inextricably tied. There’s an appropriate time to be stoic and an appropriate time to be vulnerable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/25 05:51 AM |
| 3 | Male promiscuity is the source of all of men's dating problemsIf your goal is to increase odds of getting laid maybe. But like, when it comes to treating people with basic decency is that really the basis upon which we should be deciding how to behave towards random blokes? If they’re not being irresponsible and not hurting anyone then I’m not gonna be shitty to somebody. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/25 04:04 PM |
| 4 | "Consent" is a thing that more men should reject and more women should enforce according to their respective definitionAre “women complaining about passive men who didn’t get the concept” really people we should be catering to? Expecting someone to approach you when you haven’t told them you like them sounds childish to me. If it happens that’s great for you, but it’s not something anyone is entitled to. Certainly, it’s not a reason that men should ignore consent and act like stubborn eager puppies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/25 08:59 AM |
| 5 | Why do you feel pressured to pursue women?Yes. Sometimes they just prefer women, which is fine as long as it’s just a preference not couched in stereotypes. Other times it is internalised homophobia. It’s why you have a lot of guys in the “down-low” about their sexuality. Women are generally seen as more sexually desirable and this applies to queer people’s preferences. That often leads to a preference in queer men and women. I think it’s rooted in a harmful stereotype but that’s my opinion. Some guys like what’s between their legs, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/25 06:58 AM |
| 3 | Why do you feel pressured to pursue women?Thx sis :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 08:24 PM |
| 3 | What are your views on the orgasm gap? Who is responsible for solving it?No I mean, don’t fight. If they’re not willing they’re not willing. No means no after all. But a way of communicating is showing people. You need consent to do that though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 05:36 PM |
| 3 | Why do you feel pressured to pursue women?Good lad | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 04:06 PM |
| 13 | Why do you feel pressured to pursue women?I didn’t use the career analogy to make a comparison to the wage gap per se. Just that it evokes the same feelings. You NEED a well paying job after you get all your education. You NEED a woman in your life to be a well adjusted grown man. But you really don’t for the latter statement. In the same way “I don’t need a man” is genuinely an enriching thing to say, if men could say “I don’t need a woman” confidently”, they’d have much more self esteem, confidence and happiness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 03:20 PM |
| 41 | Why do you feel pressured to pursue women?I did until I realised I was bisexual. Women as a group haven’t wronged me in any way or taken away my freedoms, but when there’s so much competition for women, they become apathetic, and first dates especially feel like performative job interviews in that you dread them, but you feel like you have to go through with it to be successful and happy. Women are simultaneously the centre and the object when it comes to a straight man, and even some queer men’s dating lives. They’re viewed as the “pri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 01:32 PM |
| 5 | What are your views on the orgasm gap? Who is responsible for solving it?The intuitive starting point is that nobody is entitled to an orgasm. Whether you’re already having sex or not. I have the opposite problem where it’s not easy to reach a climax when with a woman, but I’m personally okay with that as there are other things to enjoy about sex, and I assure them that I’m still having a good time. So I guess solution no.1 is that the orgasm gap may not necessarily be a problem on an individual case to case basis. But orgasms are typically desirable and if that’s wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 01:12 PM |
| 4 | men are mad they dont inspire lust. but is the solution not so simple?Sounds like a very unequal relationship to me. One clearly likes the other more than the other way around. A guy in this scenario would feel very disposable and unimportant. People want to be desired for being themselves. Your body is a key part of your identity. Not like money or power which, whilst maybe attractive, aren’t a part of your identity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/25 10:12 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: Would you rather find out your SO is cheating? Or is bi?The latter. I’m the same, so it would be nice to find someone who I can talk about that stuff with Would be interested to see what gals think since it’s only dudes answering this question though. Seems that the guys who have answered have all chosen bisexuality over infidelity so that makes me very happy. You guys are class | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/25 10:36 PM |
| 0 | Do you agree with Iliza Schlesinger's take on hateful undesirable saying that it's "natural selection"?It is an example of natural selection. Descriptively that’s correct. But it doesn’t follow that this should be encouraged. Should men only choose those women who will be able to pump out as many kids as possible? Should men be hyper selective about the weight of women? Not necessarily. It depends on dating goals. What about people who don’t want kids? Why should it matter to them what traits are genetically selected? Should disabled people be left behind despite having traits that would make the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/25 07:52 AM |
| 6 | Does a woman asking a man out make him respect her and the relationship less?I’ve never seen a man give the opinion that “a woman doesn’t have self respect for herself if she asks a man out instead of waiting for him to ask her out”. IMO if someone said that to me, I’d assume they’re childish in the same way that men who feel entitled to sex and companionship are childish. I don’t know. Possibly it may be an opinion that some older folk or maybe some women hold, but I’ve never seen anyone in my peer group act like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/25 07:12 PM |
| 3 | How should the playing field evened out for men who seek casual sex, when men and women are not equally open to casual sex?Well it’s true that it’s not fair. But like, pity sex isn’t any better. And to be honest they’ll probably find it underwhelming if/when they actually get to have sex anyways. The biology part, you can’t fix. But the disparity isn’t just biological, it’s also psychological and cultural. I don’t really buy that men are really that much hornier than women so even if there are hormonal differences, that’s not the main thing to focus on. I feel that to focus on things like testosterone is a bit of a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/25 10:55 PM |
| 15 | How should the playing field evened out for men who seek casual sex, when men and women are not equally open to casual sex?Fuck other guys. If you don’t want number 1, use toys Find hobbies, make friends, and in this way, make an effort to de-centre women and stop revolving one’s thoughts around obtaining sex from them. If our biology really wires us to be that sex crazed, then there’s nothing to do about that. But men should not be dependent on women. We have the ability to get off without one. I’m aware that sexual exploration and freedom is more frowned upon when guys do it, but it’s 2025 man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/25 07:34 PM |
| 1 | People angry at the term “Emotional Labor” have never cared for people.Right, exactly. The problem is that their value is pinned on something that they’re mostly born with. You’ve seen how that affects women who don’t fit into that mold. Just a little bit of genetic diversity and your value could be perceived totally different from others. It hurts women also and you’ve seen that, but we’re talking about the same thing, no? I agree that women put more effort into their appearance, but even accounting for that, there’s a pretty massive disparity that isn’t accounted… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/25 06:18 AM |
| 2 | People angry at the term “Emotional Labor” have never cared for people.Well that’s a symptom of the issue. The issue is that women are seen as intrinsically valuable whereas men are seen valuable by what they achieve. That’s why you get patriarchal attitudes such as: “men should be the pursuer”, “men should handle their emotional issues independently”, “women are inherently sexier than men”, fetishisation of queer femmes, disgust and phobia of queer mascs etc. Yes, you’ve gotta do emotional labour if you’re emotionally intimate with somebody and a responsible perso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/25 02:31 PM |
| 5 | Those who use the phrase "if men want the same sex opportunities as women, then just go for the gays" - you simply confirm all the claims about high female standardsYou can call it high standards and that may be true in a sense, but the fact is that men just aren’t sexualised like women are. Not to the same extent. So their demand in the market is much lower. Higher standards is just the symptom, not the diagnosis. That and also I wanna see more men wear slutty clothes for my own personal enjoyment too. Dating market be damned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/25 09:08 AM |
| 1 | People who moralize around "sexual objectification" are its worst offendersAgain, you’re confusing wholesomeness with morality. The reason it’s bad is never because you’re horny. Otherwise every single person would be going to hell forever. It’s because you selfishly manipulate people or make them uncomfortable or you put them in a situation that risks some harm coming to them. You let your desire be an excuse to take advantage of them. I’ve explained how pursuing sec in a controlled environment and with clear boundaries and transparent communication avoids those ills.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/25 06:12 PM |
| 1 | People who moralize around "sexual objectification" are its worst offendersNo u | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/25 05:46 PM |
| 2 | People who moralize around "sexual objectification" are its worst offendersIf you proposition someone for a coffee with the goal of pump and dumping them, then yeah. It’s, at best, ambiguous, at worst, dishonest. It’s obviously not appropriate to be sexualising people in such a public environment. If you wanna strike up a casual conversation or get to know somebody better without the goal of boning them, that’s clearly not objectifying and obviously fine. That’s what cafes are for. If you attend an event specifically for sex, you’re being honest and transparent about w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/25 05:45 PM |
| 0 | People who moralize around "sexual objectification" are its worst offendersI mean, if that’s what you’re into then go ahead. But I guarantee that you’ll feel more secure and safe about being fisted if you find somebody who’s been vetted, who is responsible and who is clean rather than some rando off the street. Would not recommend going out and asking to be fisted in an average social setting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/25 05:16 PM |
| 1 | People who moralize around "sexual objectification" are its worst offendersLess likely to get your drink spiked, less likely to get assaulted, less likely to come across irresponsible people who drink, don’t use protection or who have STIs. You can call it a dungeon to make it sound scary if you want, but the people who organise these things are very careful and attentive to the needs of their guests and community. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/25 02:22 PM |
| -2 | People who moralize around "sexual objectification" are its worst offendersApproaching somebody for sex in a place that’s designed for anonymously getting your dick wet is less creepy than trying to approach people you don’t know to get your dick wet in a place thats designed for social engagements and getting drunk, not gonna lie. I would say that women definitely do benefit from being approached as that makes them the gatekeepers in hetero relationships, and they definitely aren’t accused of being creepy when doing the same thing as men in terms of hitting on people.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/25 01:12 PM |
| 2 | Men Need an Extreme Separatist Ideology , Total Detachment from WomenI’m sorry l, this is completely unrelated, but when somebody types the word separatist, I think of Count Dooku, and read the text in his voice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/25 09:08 AM |
| 6 | CMV: men's failure to approach women is ruining datingTraditional courtship is struggling to adapt to society where patriarchy is becoming slowly undone. It is unravelling various double standards and slowly course correcting the market. Incels demand attention from women because they’re nice and they’ve held this door for that woman or whatnot. They are not entitled to anybody else’s attention because of a unilateral action on their part. In the first place, it’s like this entitlement that they own or earn women like compensation. It’s objectifyin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/25 06:48 PM |
| 7 | How much interest and attention do you think the average woman receives?A lot of attention online. Less attention in person, but still likely to be approached on a night out or a house party or smth. Based on my group of friends, probably the people who would be approaching the girls are between 20-35. If you’re in a club, likely to have guys or girls come up and try and get you to grind on them or smth. A lot of people will just stare though, especially on public transport. If people are paying for your shit I’d say it depends on where they are in life. £20-£50 a n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/25 08:36 AM |
| 1 | We should start sexualizing menAs a bisexual man who also believes we should sexualise men more, the problem imo is not really that it hasn’t occurred to people to sexualise men. The problem is that people don’t understand how to do so. People think having a man shirtless is automatically what sexualises them, but they’re not women. The same rules don’t apply for the obvious reason that sexual characteristics are different. And clothing brands don’t play into sexualisation for men like they do with women. I mean, just look at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/25 07:44 AM |
| 2 | Do you actually NEVER get laid or approached, or are you exaggerating?By women, it’s once in a blue moon, but apart from one occasion, I almost always approach first By men, it’s a lot more often. In-person I don’t get approached much really (maybe would be a different story if I frequented queer spaces) but online, my profile gets more attention from men for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/25 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Women have not somehow artificially manipulated the dating market to increase their perceived value, the modern dating market simply revealed that women are more desirable than menI don’t think that’s quite the same thing. Men are much easier to have sex with. That’s a question of supply. But the attraction people have to women is a question of demand. You might even argue that the supply is so low because the demand is so high. I think the demand is a pretty direct indication of perceived value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/25 06:11 PM |
| 3 | Women have not somehow artificially manipulated the dating market to increase their perceived value, the modern dating market simply revealed that women are more desirable than menI don’t think that’s true. I know people who wish they were into women rather than men because “women are beautiful”. Likewise many bi and pan sexual people prefer women. And when it comes to outward attractiveness, I’m that way too, even though like both women and men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/25 04:40 PM |
| 3 | Women have not somehow artificially manipulated the dating market to increase their perceived value, the modern dating market simply revealed that women are more desirable than menI understand that it’s philosophy at this point, but value is determined, or at least indicated by desire. At least, the way that we value things and people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/25 03:18 PM |
| – | Straight/bi men: How easy and how often do you get sexually aroused by random women you see?I notice strangers in well dressed or revealing outfits, guy or girl. But I’m not like going into heat over it. I’d probably be more into them if they were giving me attention, but what they’re wearing doesn’t factor into that aspect of attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/25 11:33 PM |
| – | Woke isn't coming backIf complexity matters, then why are other complex issues like the ones I mentioned not also regulated? Point of what I’m saying is that it’s not grooming to present a complex issue to a child. Grooming would involve railroading kids away from other points of view towards the point of view you impose on them. Showing a symbol isn’t doing that. Also, why can’t you just say to a kid, for all intents and purposes this group of people are viewed as women or men? Why would a kid need to know about bra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/25 04:02 PM |
| – | Woke isn't coming backYes. I never said it would be exclusively negative for corps Releasing restrictions, regulations and policies is going to have a positive effect on big corporations in the short term because they can do whatever they want and existing customers will still retain them. But it should also be obvious that growth requires increasing rates of customer engagement. And accommodating for that requires a growing base of employees. If you had read the comment, you would have known that I said DEI rollback… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/25 03:41 PM |
| – | Woke isn't coming backIm a bit skeptical about that. Is it complex? Kids are old enough to understand that (in many cases) their mother likes their father. How is that any different from depicting a queer relationship or symbol? The only difference is that it’s heterosexual. Should we ban the sale of crosses because kids aren’t well versed theologians? Should we ban the sale of books about humanism because children would otherwise be groomed into that path? Should pharmacies and clinics stop selling condoms because c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/25 03:19 PM |
| – | Woke isn't coming backI’m not surprised that Walmart is growing more than competitors, but my understanding (and correct me if I’m wrong) is that their projected growth this year is set to be a few percent less than their growth last year, going from something like 5.5 % to 3%, which is pretty massive I reckon. Also I’m not familiar with the merchandise you’re talking about. What kind of merchandise and how did it amount to grooming? Not trying to attack, but genuine question as I’m not familiar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/25 02:45 PM |
| – | Woke isn't coming backI’m not sure about that. Consumers have made it very clear that trashing DEI policies is not in the interests of customers, employees or anyone except those big corporations. Now those corporations are paying for it. If anything, it just seems like “woke” is going to come back stronger once Trump stops trying to silence people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/25 02:07 PM |
| 1 | How are women who enjoy casual sex “being used?”Casual sex can be “being used”. Not necessarily, but the more people someone sleeps with, the harder it is to act ethically towards the people you sleep with, hence the risk of using people or being used increases. If you have romantic sex there is less of a risk of being used or using your partner. If you have sex with somebody consensually AND you take responsibility for the risks and potential harms that you may put upon them by having sex with them, approaching sex in good faith with a view … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 05:00 PM |
| 1 | Guys, One Woman is Enough.You don’t need any women or men unless you want to start a family. Even if you want to do that, you may not necessarily need a romantic partner. You go out and court the number of people you want to because you have the physical or emotional time and space to do so responsibly. Otherwise, you get with fewer people or you don’t get with anybody at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/25 09:14 PM |
| 5 | The Venn Diagram of men who complain about small penis shaming and the men who complain about Bella Ramsey is a circle.They’re hypocritical, but if they are campaigning for a thing that is good, I.e. not body shaming, then telling them to shut up is not a good response. Just call out hypocrisy where it lies. It’s not illegal to be a hypocrite. And silencing genuine issues is not the way forward. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 03:04 PM |
| -1 | Men, what’s something you love about being a man?I feel like I can be pretty neutral around people. Waiting to see if I have an opinion or feeling about something before expressing it. And not feeling a requirement to express a view for validation from others. Less pick me energy. Ultimately that’s not a biological distinction of being a man. It’s socially instilled. But I think the approach lets me be more diplomatic and more open to different perspectives. Other things include Practical clothing is cool (mostly pockets) Suits and waistcoats … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/25 11:15 AM |
| 0 | Q4M: Does "Whoever invites you out for the date should pay" make things equal?Oh yeah for sure, I’m that case we agree. I just mean that I never make the decision unilaterally. And usually try to inject some humour into the situation so it’s not as painfully awkward. But I mean, it’s just my preference I suppose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/25 08:41 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: Does "Whoever invites you out for the date should pay" make things equal?Nah, I just ask how they want to handle it or I’ll offer to pay sometimes. If it’s a cheap first date, I’m usually happy to take the bill. And like you said, the other party will appreciate it. I just don’t think the other person should be entitled to a privilege or right for the other person to pay. Like with anything in a relationship, you talk about what you need/ want and if those requirements conflict, you come to a compromise. If it’s too awkward of a conversation to confront, then it prob… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/25 05:38 PM |
| 7 | Q4M: Does "Whoever invites you out for the date should pay" make things equal?Yes, I think so. It implies that I’m not worth her time without cash. I want somebody to value me because they enjoy spending time with me. And f me paying is the deciding factor as to whether or not a date happens, then that’s THE reason they wanted to date you in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/25 05:14 PM |
| 7 | Q4M: Does "Whoever invites you out for the date should pay" make things equal?Sure, but I wouldn’t want to go on a date with somebody that feels like they’re doing me a favour by being there. This just seems like an expectation of compensation for x person’s time. If I’m going on a date with somebody I want there to be mutual interest. For plans to be mutually agreed on etc. If somebody has unilaterally decided on a date plan at, let’s say an expensive place, and the other party has no idea where the deciding party is planning to take them, then, sure, the deciding party … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/25 02:27 PM |
| 1 | “Decentering” is really just “centering” resentment of the other genderI wouldn’t say resent women. I think having platonic relationships with women is perfectly compatible with de centering. BUT you can absolutely resent things norms and unhealthy stereotypes that would otherwise result in male yearning for women. You can still call people out on it. You can still avoid prioritising a woman over yourself for the wrong reason (ie that you need their validation). For me, it just got to a point where the double standards made me feel alienated, so I just don’t engage… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 10:29 PM |
| 1 | I’m a woman and I want to helpI would recommend a few things that would help in terms of loneliness. Since you have two little ones, you can show them how to give affection and show familial love towards each other. Often men don’t really get attention and validation unless they earn it. Of course, nobody owes anyone attention out in public, but it’s still depressing to be alone. Make sure they look out for each other and encourage them to actively pursue close and intimate platonic connections with others including other bo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/04/25 10:04 PM |
| 1 | Are all or most women attracted to women?Nah I disagree. It’s a mindset thing. Not biological between the sexes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 09:21 AM |
| 0 | Narrow masculinity narratives are harming both men and women in modern relationshipsThey’re commonly associated with masculinity though. Beauty and emotion are not feminine traits but that is commonly associated with femininity. I think it’s quite clear that OP is not referring to biological traits, but rather socially constructed and assigned ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/25 06:46 PM |
| 3 | Would you date a trans woman that passes well?Dating sure, but I do want kids of my own someday so that’s unlikely to be a lifelong partnership | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/25 01:00 AM |
| 4 | Submissive men and dominant womenThere are fuck tons of subs if you look in the right place online. Here, fet life. But it’s not like I’m going UwU in my personal life in front of acquaintances. The better I know somebody, the more I open up to them. The more I open up to them, the more submissive and dominant traits I may show. But I mean if it were to come up in convo with somebody I trust for whatever reason, I wouldn’t mind saying I’m a sub leaning switch if they were decent friends. If you ask me, subs require a lot of att… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/25 09:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV: "women are less likely to date bisexual men" is just an attempt to frame us as homophobicA description that only applies to men that are straight and conservative does not reflect a general trend across men in the west. Both the top and the bottom posts from the screenshot are asking why men are exclusively being criticised when they believe DV and divorce is a bigger problem between women. They are citing stats that, as far as I can tell are from Jordan Peterson. The first guy is asking, in good faith, whether those statistics are representative, and if so, why that is the case whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 11:35 PM |
| 1 | CMV: "women are less likely to date bisexual men" is just an attempt to frame us as homophobicAnd you know that because…? Men are not a monolith. You shouldn’t put words in other people’s mouths. What about men who have bisexual gfs that don’t want threesomes at all? What about queer men? Or even ace guys? Your description doesn’t work for many men. There’s no need to invent arbitrary rules | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 10:15 PM |
| 1 | CMV: "women are less likely to date bisexual men" is just an attempt to frame us as homophobicI’ve never wanted a threesome with two women. I’d much prefer one of each if I’m even going to do that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 05:28 PM |
| 4 | I was proven wrong yesterday regarding women and biphobia. But I don't understand the reasoning.Ah shit here we go again | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 03:27 PM |
| 6 | I was proven wrong yesterday regarding women and biphobia. But I don't understand the reasoning.People are allowed to have preferences, but it’s also not a good thing that those preferences that have been formed by attitudes based on false information. Misandry and misogyny are generated from the same concept. That women are fundamentally more desirable than men in beauty and that men are more desirable for practical purposes. This is what gives rise to the belief that it is a state of nature that women are more sexual and more promiscuous than men, and it is why lesbians are fetishised wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 03:22 PM |
| 3 | Alimony Recipients Be Required to Do Domestic Labor.Except family law isn’t commercial law. If you wanted to turn it into that, you would sign a prenup and postnup affirming the prenup, and you would make sure both parties have a lawyer to review it. The jurisprudence of family law is extremely welfare based. The default position is that spouses don’t own marital property in shares of 50% each, but jointly owning 100% together instead. It’s not like holding shares in a company or even the default position where companies hold property in common. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/25 12:10 PM |
| 2 | Alimony Recipients Be Required to Do Domestic Labor.Not really. Unlike what the guy above you is saying, allimony is not compensation. It’s there to give parties a transition from cohabiting to single lifestyles. If a man has invested so much into the marriage that the transition will be harder for them then this may affect the amount of allimony paid. But transitioning from being stay at home to needing a job will always require more adjustment, so that party is going to have more allimony allocated to them. With that in mind, the idea that alli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/25 09:25 AM |
| 12 | Majority of "misandrists" are men.I don’t think so. There are controversial figures you know of, but in my personal life, and I imagine the average person in my area, I’ve never seen men wanting to describe themselves as callous. The only people who have done that are the women in my life. Men may have rooted the miss dry in place, but on a day to day basis, I think the shift needs to happen across men and women. Especially now that we are emancipating women, men will feel like they’re having their cake and eating it too. Men sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/25 07:19 AM |
| 1 | Relationships Are Always Transactional, Whether We Admit It or NotYes we have no disagreement substantively. I was just bringing up the language point that your definition of transactional is just as much an association as the negative one other people give it. Which is why definitions should always be established when discussing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 02:26 PM |
| 2 | Relationships Are Always Transactional, Whether We Admit It or NotIt is semantics ultimately. The definition of something depends on its use. But our agreed use of the word is different from our actual use of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 02:13 PM |
| 12 | Relationships Are Always Transactional, Whether We Admit It or NotYes but I’m pretty sure what people mean is that the purpose of the transaction should be mutual benefit, rather than the mutual benefit of a transaction being only incidental to your primary goal of self benefit. You’re correct in that it’s conditional, but when people say transactional they tend to mean it’s in a selfish individualism way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 01:51 PM |
| 2 | Its not women’s problem that men have low standards out of desperation.Ultimately it restricts everyone’s ability to get with multiple people, but if it raises a male voter’s body count from 0 to 1 they’re going to see it as a win. Will it do that? Probably not. But typically people who vote that way also want to punish outside groups for having more. Yeah we never think people would ever vote against their own interests until it happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/25 11:14 AM |
| 5 | Its not women’s problem that men have low standards out of desperation.Reproductive rights being stripped lowers your ability to date around. There are talks about women being unsuitable for voting. That’s just a few things for all women, but women of different races and sexualities risk having their expression restricted. People are censoring media with queer content etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/25 07:32 PM |
| 4 | Its not women’s problem that men have low standards out of desperation.Substantively, what you’re saying is true in terms of responsibility. It’s a free market and you vote with your participation. Although market changes happen much more slowly, maybe over a generation or so, so the incentive is less straightforward. That being said, it’s going to eventually become your problem when it affects enough men for you to notice. Look at how many young men are voting in ways that are detrimental to women. They think restricting you restricts the dating market, which help… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/25 07:02 PM |
| 2 | Guys seem to be upset that most men cant get away with being deeply flawed individuals.Banter in and of itself doesn’t make a guy stand out. A guy can banter with whoever and likewise a girl can banter with any number of men. If you have a niche hobby, you join a group and there happens to be a person of the preferred sex there, they find you attractive, and you work with them or talk to them about niche hobby, okay, that’s a good starting point. But liking clubs and music is not a reason for her to pick you out of the sea of men with similar interests. In that scenario, just bein… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/25 01:53 AM |
| 2 | Guys seem to be upset that most men cant get away with being deeply flawed individuals.Depends what you mean by date. It makes sense to me that people tend to be most successful finding a long term partner with people they’re previously acquainted with, but plenty of hookups and casual relationships are more spontaneous than that, especially if you go to bars, clubs, parties or even for those who just do online dating. The risk reward ratio between confessing to or asking out a guy (or even more masculine enbies) out vs a girl is different. Most masculine folk don’t get the ick ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/25 01:18 AM |
| 6 | Guys seem to be upset that most men cant get away with being deeply flawed individuals.If you buy the first round I’ll buy the second. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/25 08:27 PM |
| 6 | Guys seem to be upset that most men cant get away with being deeply flawed individuals.For your personality to shine, you have to get people to spend time with you. To get people to spend time with you, they have to be attracted to you regardless of your personality, and this is why men care about pretty privilege. Sure, personality is important if you want to get beyond a first date. Having money is important if you want to pool your finances. Most guys don’t even get that far. The unfortunate fact is that a fat woman could have a heart of gold and be loaded but people who might … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/25 08:26 PM |
| 3 | As a bi woman, dating women is way harder than dating men.Oh fair, I have no clue when people are interested in me if they are at all so maybe guys just need to be told lol. But yeah, when forwardness works it works real well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/25 09:56 PM |
| 3 | As a bi woman, dating women is way harder than dating men.Yeah queer women more so that’s straight ones. And nb people are also are great on first dates. That’s a bold play man. I could maybe do that in a gay bar after a drink or two. Or with a guy if the topic of conversation is already sexual or adjacent to sexual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/25 09:26 PM |
| 7 | As a bi woman, dating women is way harder than dating men.It’s easy for me to be assertive with men. People rarely are, so they tend to be receptive to it. With women it depends whether it’s in person or a dating app. On an app, you’re there to date, so I have no problem telling women I want to be romantic with them or whatever. But in person I think it just comes off as an annoyance to them at best, even if you already know them. I agree that quality doesn’t equal quantity, but the quantity definitely affects what we perceive as our standard of qualit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 09:19 PM |
| 26 | As a bi woman, dating women is way harder than dating men.It’s not even assertiveness. It’s just reciprocation or some willingness to be there, rather than making me feel like I’m wasting their time. The more I go out out with those kinds of people, the more the things I do for them just seems performative. On the one hand it is making me realise that I care a bit too much about validation from random women I go on first dates with. But on the other hand I feel like I’m starting to develop my own apathy, which is a shame because I want to be warm to ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 05:22 PM |
| 35 | As a bi woman, dating women is way harder than dating men.It’s just this sense of initial apathy that makes you wanna curl up. But I don’t think it’s necessarily always woman thing or a queer issue necessarily. Being queer will make you more aware of it, but as you saw from your experience, it doesn’t prevent the initial awkwardness of it all. It’s more a feminity thing imo. Feminine guys I’ve dated have been like that too, and I’ve dated more masculine women who aren’t like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 04:42 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: choose a life: bad boy with 5 baby mamas or mild mannered virginUnless he has a job that requires travel, how often is a 35 year old with a full time job going to go travelling? He’s not a student anymore. If he travelled to a different location would that really change anyone’s perception of him? Why do friend groups need to be changing for him to be interesting? Or is it the fact that he hasn’t had sex with his friends that makes him uninteresting? It’s fine to value a bit less stability in a partner, or a median amount between A and B but that’s just an i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 12:16 AM |
| 5 | Q4Men: choose a life: bad boy with 5 baby mamas or mild mannered virginI mean he travels, he likes certain media, he seems to be an outdoors guy. He has friends and a social circle. What interests would make him more interesting than the ones he already has? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/25 11:45 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: choose a life: bad boy with 5 baby mamas or mild mannered virginI mean, those are hobbies and interests that you just don’t connect with. That’s just compatibility. Even their work could be an interest for person B. Its just not an interest you share. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/25 11:26 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: choose a life: bad boy with 5 baby mamas or mild mannered virginB. A doesn’t even have a life. He’s practically a slave. To debt, drugs, and people who A clearly doesn’t give a shit about. What are they even hoping to achieve? But the grass is always greener on the other side I suppose | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/25 10:56 PM |
| 0 | Men should decenter women tooDe-centre seems like a strong word but yeah, being obsessed with female validation is not the way to go in this day and age. In the same vein that adult women don’t need a man in their life, we should be self sufficient without a woman constantly being present in our lives. There’s so much more to life. If you have something you’re passionate about, you can find intimate and enriching connection with likeminded people or even differently minded people depending on the activity. Doesn’t have to b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/25 08:27 PM |
| 1 | You cant expect women to help with your loneliness or give you validation when you don’t show appreciation.Agreed. Nobody is entitled to anything, but that’s why they’re mad that men are expected to approach women, and that women get approached. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with complaining about a double standard. Many women are being approached by multiple men when they go out, and they, very understandably, don’t like it. But when people say to an incel, “you’re not entitled to anyone’s attention,” an incel will infer that women getting this attention is a privilege that they have over men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/25 01:30 PM |
| 5 | You cant expect women to help with your loneliness or give you validation when you don’t show appreciation.I’m sure there are men like that who feed into the idea. But the core issue extrapolated from that mindset isn’t that women leave men or ghost them or find other people too often. It’s that women don’t approach them in the first place. I believe you when you say these issues exist, but they’re not issues that defeat the purpose of the male loneliness epidemic argument. The issue you’ve identified is that some men put themselves back into square 1. But what most of the loneliness epidemic guys ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/25 02:22 PM |
| 6 | You cant expect women to help with your loneliness or give you validation when you don’t show appreciation.The men complaining about the loneliness epidemic aren’t the people who get dates, let alone a consistent partner that they get a chance to fumble with. There’s nothing for them to appreciate because they don’t have a woman in their lives doing anything to support them. If for example somebody asks me out I appreciate that. If they travel to my area for a date, I appreciate that. If they buy the first round of drinks, maybe I’ll buy the second round. If they walk me home, I’ll appreciate that. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/25 02:04 PM |
| 1 | Men who have been wild in the past can they be loyal to a fault in a relationship?You’ll want to determine Has he cheated on anyone Has he slept around responsibly (has he been testing for STIs, are the people he sleeps with random drunkards or something). Basically you want to determine if he’s a risk to you. The fact that he has been around the block doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a risk to your need for security, but the more people you mess around with, the harder it is to be a responsible person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/25 02:24 PM |
| 1 | Sure we don't like it when men sexualized women. But we all still live in a society that encouraged men to sexualize women though.That’s not too surprising. Sexual objectification, like anything else, is a double edged sword. It’s not in women’s interests to be sexually objectified if that means getting used and discarded like… well; an object. But it is empowering, literally, if a woman can use their sexuality as a way to influence other people. The key differentiating factor being consent and who initiates that process. The same applies for any type of objectification and would apply to men too, but women are much more d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/25 09:43 AM |
| 1 | Oral sex is degradingDo you give your partners head? It’s a good comparison because, having done so for men and women both, I can assure you it’s really not that different. Substitute forward and backward head movement for up and down movement. Bodily fluids ending up on the givers face or in the mouth all the same. Same mucus/salt/skin kinda taste. The only real difference is that with one, your jaw gets sore, and with the other, you start suffocating unless you leave the danger zone from time to time. Yes some peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 08:08 PM |
| 1 | The parents of boys have an obligation to teach them about attracting womenParents should teach their kids how to interact with others in a way that is healthy. They should teach sons how to approach women and men, and how they should be treated and approached by women too. They should teach their daughters how to approach men and women alike and how they should be treated by men and women. And parents should teach their kids what they are and are not entitled to, and they should reach their kids to be okay with being alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 11:59 AM |
| 1 | Why Men Are Doomed Due to Hypergamy in Modern SocietyAgain, something other groups of people have the privilege of not having to do. I’m not well versed in the sugar dating scene, but it really doesn’t sound like this would give any form of genuine affection. There’s not really reciprocity there. It’s transactional on one end and emotional on the other. The only answer for him is to become at peace with being alone and if he gets lucky and then that’s great, but he isn’t entitled to anybody’s time or affection, and straight guys just don’t get the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 11:51 AM |
| 6 | Why Men Are Doomed Due to Hypergamy in Modern SocietyThey have to if they want to find somebody. Nobody’s competing for them after all. I think people should be happy being single, but it’s easy for me to say that. I’m bi so I can afford to compete or not compete when I feel like it. For a straight guy, if they don’t try, who’s gonna give a shit about them? When you’re starved of affection from the world, you’re desperate to find some. Intimate affection and connection are healthy. Not as necessary as food but massive for your quality of life. You… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/25 09:30 PM |
| 2 | Why Men Are Doomed Due to Hypergamy in Modern SocietyYou’re presenting competition as a universal fact , but his point is that these factors don’t affect women so they’re not universal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/25 09:18 PM |
| 1 | at which point misandry starts?Yeah. This is the answer. The most clickbait posts are the ones with generalising titles. Substantively, the posts themselves are not necessarily misandrist. They detail personal experiences. But generalising to say men do this and that in their titles purports false stereotypes in the same way as saying something equally as hateful like “women are whores”. They avoid criticism because they omit the word “all” so that technically, what they’re saying isn’t a generalisation, but everybody underst… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 09:45 PM |
| – | CMV: It's fine to subsidize your lifestyle and splurge with child support moneyWindmill flowers is my favourite user on this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 08:54 PM |
| 2 | What are The weirdest dating preferences that you've heard from any gender ?You realise that if you have to worry about anybody sleeping with your gf, you shouldn’t be with her in the first place right? If you do not trust your gf to not sleep with men, that means she is not loyal to you, or that you are paranoid. If you’re in a good relationship, you don’t worry about your partner sleeping with anybody else. I’ve met straight men far more promiscuous than any bi person I’ve met. But when they do it, it’s encouraged. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 08:51 PM |
| 2 | What are The weirdest dating preferences that you've heard from any gender ?What makes you say that? Not trying to come off as antagonistic but genuinely curious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 08:17 PM |
| 1 | at which point misandry starts?If that’s the case then the title I pointed out earlier is definitely an example of misandry that we should care about. Because generalisations cause that kind of behaviour. If x assumes that married men hate their wives, the implication is quite strong that she would treat married men differently. To be fair, not all men are married, but this is quite a vast generalisation and the sort of thing that could cause the harm we’re discussing. She may not be imposing anything on anyone else, but she’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 03:44 PM |
| 2 | at which point misandry starts?In that case I think we just start caring about it at different points. If people’s feelings affect the way they treat people, and enough people feel that way, that’s eventually gonna have an effect on me and people I care about. I think ideas about certain topics have larger cultural relevance, so it’s important to me to challenge opinions that are not very well based. There are certain values and whatnot that you just can’t compare or evaluate, but if an opinion is just flat out ignorant, I th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 03:33 PM |
| 3 | at which point misandry starts?Given your definition of misogyny in the original comment, would you say then, that the incel example you’ve given is misogyny but just not misogyny that you care about? (I don’t mean this in an antagonistic way, and apologise that the tone comes off like this). Because that incel has made it clear that he hates women in your example. He’s generalised a personal experience and inaccurately used it to make judgements completely outside of his personal experience and what women have done and only … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 03:03 PM |
| 5 | at which point misandry starts?I don’t think feelings are that far removed from genuine opinions about men. If you acknowledge that your feelings are subject to some kind of error or bias or irrationality, then I could grant that this person may not believe men should be punished. To your credit, I think a few of these titles definitely do that. If you feel something, but think your feeling is an accurate representation of the world, then I imagine that does affect your opinion on what rights people should have. Eg “I am conv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 01:55 PM |
| 2 | at which point misandry starts?Do you feel that the above titles do the former or the latter? Or both? To me, from the titles alone it seems like they’re doing both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 01:44 PM |
| 2 | Are you woried about feminism?I’m not scared of gender equality, nor do I resent it. I think the path forward is embracing it. But I think the movement is having some growing pains culturally right now, because power comes with responsibilities and accountability. I think many men feel that women have their cake and eat it too. They have such and such rights, but still get treated as the “fairer sex” Imo things have been getting better, but I’m not getting any younger, so if feminism is to benefit men by distributing respons… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 01:36 PM |
| 1 | What are The weirdest dating preferences that you've heard from any gender ?No amount of experience is gonna make two contradictory statements suddenly make sense, but getting more experience was the plan anyways, whether I like it or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 05:00 AM |
| 0 | What are The weirdest dating preferences that you've heard from any gender ?So do happy people not cheat or does being content drive women to cheat? You’re contradicting yourself here. To be content is to be happy. If you are settling then you are not happy. It sounds like you think that the only group of people who don’t cheat is straight men 🤷🏽♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 04:53 AM |
| 0 | What are The weirdest dating preferences that you've heard from any gender ?If they were content with their relationship, they would not need anything outside of it. Living a peaceful and ordinary life and genuinely being fulfilled are entirely different things, even though they are not mutually exclusive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 04:40 AM |
| 1 | What are The weirdest dating preferences that you've heard from any gender ?Well historically speaking, that tends to happen when your sexuality is repressed by others. That’s why people came up with that myth decades ago. Bisexual people aren’t cheaters. People in unhappy relationships are cheaters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 04:33 AM |
| 4 | What are The weirdest dating preferences that you've heard from any gender ?Yeah but it’s a cyclical issue. Men are DL because they’re not accepted. They’re not accepted because they’re DL. For better or worse, women are more desired, so as a result their queer relationships are also more desired, even to the point of being fetishised. So women are seen as more sexual (this can be both empowering and objectifying) and their bisexuality is almost even taken for granted by some people. Whereas the idea of a guy having intimacy with another man seems taboo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 03:11 AM |
| 1 | What are The weirdest dating preferences that you've heard from any gender ?You’re right in that this is the reason people sometimes give. But if they are also bi, then they either know that this is a false stereotype, or they are at peace with that lifestyle so either way there’s still mental gymnastics being done. I can only talk from my perspective, but from the women who genuinely rejected me for my bisexuality, it really just seemed that they had this idea that masculinity was about asceticism and being repressed and regressive, whereas femininity was progressive a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 03:03 AM |
| 30 | What are The weirdest dating preferences that you've heard from any gender ?Only weird one I’ve encountered personally is not wanting to date bi people when the person themselves is bi. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/25 09:24 PM |
| 6 | Men that tell women to “just choose better”, how do you feel about the exodus of women in the dating market?I think the implication. Is that it’s a good thing because it means both men and women aren’t just complying with the current dating scenes and standards | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/25 09:37 AM |
| 2 | What does the blue pill get right and what wrong?I mean an ideology doesn’t mean people have uniform beliefs. So different red pill people can have different ones. But there’s gotta be some core belief that ties them together. If blue pill is the inverse of that, then they have to have a core belief that directly opposes red pill. That’s what makes sense to me anyways | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/25 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Why is Pregnancy Talked About Like It Should Be A Punishment for Women Who Had Sex?I would never say that fathers should have a veto or an equal right to terminate a pregnancy but the fact is that the main justification for abortion relies on the fact that a parent has to raise their kid for 18 years. That applies to both parents. Mothers have to deal with pregnancy and health risks for 9 months and more, so they will always have the final say, but if you don’t consider the effect of the next 18 years, pro choice arguments would not be nearly as compelling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 01:14 PM |
| 3 | Why is Pregnancy Talked About Like It Should Be A Punishment for Women Who Had Sex?Why is the decision making process different for fathers if fathers also raise kids? The whole point of abortion is to promote autonomy I.e. allow people to make decisions about their long term and private life. This seems like a long term and private decision to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 08:46 AM |
| 6 | Why is Pregnancy Talked About Like It Should Be A Punishment for Women Who Had Sex?This neglects the part where she said his life is involved. If the default position is that fathers take legal responsibility, then it should be expected that they are somehow considered in the decision making process. That doesn’t mean it should be a legal requirement to get the father’s consent. Bodily autonomy and the pregnant person’s own life plans are key. But I don’t think it’s controversial to say that not consulting the father, under normal circumstances, is just a douchebag move. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/25 12:57 PM |
| 7 | Why is Pregnancy Talked About Like It Should Be A Punishment for Women Who Had Sex?Yeah the key point being that “in a way that doesn’t burden anyone” is assuming, not just a pro choice outlook, but also an opinion that zygotes and foetuses don’t have any value. Even if you are pro choice, as I am, somebody’s negative choices today will have consequences on the adults of tomorrow. That’s why being an adult comes with so much responsibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/25 11:19 PM |
| 1 | If every average man dropped out of the dating market it would not affect women one bit. Their dating problems are entirely based on the behaviour of top tier menI don’t think that’s the assumption under which men are dropping out. You should drop out because the energy, passion and enthusiasm that you put into it is not reciprocated, and it is better spent on pursuits other than dating women. As you said they may be apathetic, but there are other things in life outside of dating. Your friends, your family, your career, your hobbies. Stuff that genuinely enriches you, where your effort is reciprocated, unlike with dating. The sentiment, I think, is that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 09:39 PM |
| 6 | Q4W: Do you want a submissive man, or do you want to submit to your man?Im not sure why it’s implied it even needs to be static all the time in the question. Yes decisions need to be made, and disagreements about decisions need to give way to action, but any healthy relationship, romantic or otherwise should use mechanisms to resolve disputes. Who is affected the most by a decision? Who has the most to lose? How many decisions has one party had a say in that the other party has conceded to? Which decision is less risky? What is the effect on the children? Who will t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/25 02:03 AM |
| 1 | Are "Ladies Nights" at bars sexist? Should they be abolished?Ultimately, yes it is sexist, but if you get something for free, YOU are the product. If you play into it, and consent to it knowing that you’re the one being exploited, then that should be fine, but strictly speaking it is discrimination and there probably should be more clarity about the regulations on this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/24 11:33 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Males should stop dropping out of the dating marketIt’s a free market | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/24 11:11 AM |
| 6 | People should think about their priorities before complaining about dating.I think guys are just mad because they think that the minimum standard for desirable is much harder to achieve for men than women. They see the discrepancies in the engagement with average looking men and average looking women and they see how skewed the ratios are. I don’t think it’s that simple but it’s easy to see how men get the idea that women are praised for just existing based on their time with dating apps. In my opinion, what you said in the original comment rings best. Staying single i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/24 11:22 PM |
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