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insecure and inadequate There it is, the classic male shaming words. Studies show a correlation between # of premarital partners and likelihood of divorce, but wanting a woman who didn't bang a different dude every week in college is "insecurity".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 03:02 PM
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What racial supremacist groups overwhelmingly vote for the left?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:28 AM
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left wing people can be just as if not more sexist/racist This is just false equivalence. Nazi sympathisers and white supremacists vote for the right, not the left.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:23 AM
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99% of the stories on AITA, RA, and TIFU are completely made up, I bet this one is too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:13 AM
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I think this post is basically just the idea that it is hard to make friends after college.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:38 PM
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Being attractive. Dating is mostly numbers x attractiveness. Being social and having interactions with a lot of women (high number potential dates) helps everyone. However, the only way to significantly raise the chance of getting a date or having a date go anywhere is to become more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:37 PM
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Not really. Most jobs have some degree of technical knowledge. PUA and Redpill coaches are just "work out more" "talk to more women". Any more detailed advice is all stuff you can find and understand extremely easily online.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 06:33 PM
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A major problem is the loudest voices in the manosphere are scammers and grift artists. They're trying to sell you their book or self help course that boils down to extremely common sense stuff. I don't like a lot of the manosphere and I'm a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 04:31 PM
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Bad people will always exist. The only thing to do is to try and minimize your interactions with them. I won't walk through Chicago at 3 AM because I don't want to get mugged. I won't travel to Sierra Leone because I don't want to die. I'm not saying the mugger or murderers shouldn't be held accountable, I just have no ability to change the fact that they exist. It's obviously a lot harder in dating to immediately identify whether someone is bad, but if you only have bad experiences then there's…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 04:15 PM
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Lmao "my friends care about my mental health, how do I tell them to fuck off and stop being pussies? BTW I'm and entrepreneur who bangs 10s on the regular." For anyone who is in a similar situation, a simple "I saw it coming for a while so I'm fine" works and then suggest just hanging out or doing something so they can physically see that.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/22 02:21 PM
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The redpill came from pickup culture so the main goal has, and always will be, "to have more success with women". Individual men get to define their own version of success, whether it's having more casual sex or getting a girlfriend. All the stuff about self improvement financially and physically is just tacked on to help achieve more success with women, anyone who thinks that's the main goal is just coping.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 04:24 PM
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The only time I've seen "the bar is on the floor" is when women are complaining about not finding any men who meet it. It's usually combined with a simple statement, like "I just ask that he's funny" ignoring all of the other unsaid stuff like: attractive, tall, good job, has his own place, etc that automatically filters out most men (and is usually hypocritical given the woman complaining can't meet many of those expectations). I just see that statement as a way for women to justify their own l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 04:07 PM
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Doesn't really hold true. I know a significant number of guys who lost their virginity to a "loose" woman who pressured them into it. They still have high sex drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:25 PM
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I agree and I'm not even "rough and dominant".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:03 PM
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I'd just like to point out that FDS is a bunch of 30+ year old single women and trans women making up stories for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:59 PM
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It starts as soon as kids go to school. In America, the vast majority of K-12 teachers are female, which has been shown to produce a bias where the girls in class recieve more attention and support. Then with colleges, more women than men have been going to and graduating from college for decades and the gap just keeps getting worse. There are also factors that aid in increasing that gap, such as female only scholarships, programs, and clubs. When college generally acts as a societal barrier to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:51 PM
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The point of the post is that it had a definition: involuntary celibate. The community of incels called themselves that because it was a bunch of men who have repeatedly tried to get a girlfriend or get laid and failed all times. Mainstream social media picked it up and now it's just used as an insult anytime a woman disagrees with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:55 PM
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I'm pretty sure the fact that "small dick", "incel", and "no bitches" all imply/mean the same thing is a better indicator than your headcanon definition. Like it or not, women's default insult for men is to say they're undesirable to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:51 PM
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Basically all of social media (Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Facebook) and I've definitely heard chad and simp being used in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:47 PM
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It's the popularization of online culture. As with any popularization, all nuance and meaning is lost. The basic premise of incel viewpoints was that your physical attractiveness is the most important thing in how people treat you and largely affects how easy and happy your life is. The second part is that physical attractiveness is largely objective and determined mostly by unchangeable characteristics like height and facial structure. Mainstream culture saw that, ignored all the messages about…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:37 PM
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In my experience, the majority of emotional support is provided by the man to the woman. In normal heterosexual relationships, I feel like the woman doesn't realize how much emotional energy they require of their boyfriend (who is usually less stressed /more stoic so they require less).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:25 PM
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I wasn't complaining about the physical effort sex takes. I was pointing out how women don't take charge of ensuring they orgasm: either through controlling movement or providing feedback.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:44 AM
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it means she just checked out mentally way earlier It's not anything that complicated. A lot of girls are just shy and don't feel comfortable communicating during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:31 PM
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Definitely never tell a girl you're a virgin. Instant turn off and the only thing it can do is hurt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:56 PM
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I'll just point out this: most women refuse to make any effort. Most sex is done by the man to the woman. If you tracked something like calories burned (from movement) I'm sure the guy would burn more in over 90% of sexual encounters. Women also almost never communicate what feels good vs what doesn't. It's actually funny how much effort it takes to get some form of feedback from women during sex other than vague moans.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:54 PM
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same as a “real” girlfriend You're acting like that's the only option. Casual sex is a thing. MGTOW with sugar babies is like an oxymoron.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:31 PM
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As someone who likes the actual idea of mgtow and learned about inequality in the court system from there, it sucks now. The sub became just another conservative hangout, I got banned when I called out a political post for not being even remotely mgtow related. I stopped browsing when most of the posts were like that. The mgtow community is also full of NPCs who's entire concept of masculinity is covered by owning a motorcycle and drinking whiskey. It's like they all read the same 2 page book, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:24 PM
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Don't be. Don't studies show that higher n counts correlate with higher divorce rates? Don't let society dictate your feelings, this wasn't a failing on your part, it was an incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:37 AM
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I'd just like to add you have to be confident in the right things. There are plenty of guys who confidently talk about their passion for Magic the Gathering, but that chances of that actually helping them get a girl are basically 0. Confidence in dating is usually shown by not avoiding eye contact, not stuttering, making jokes (no serious self deprecating ones), making decisions without worrying, and never getting defensive (like from shit tests).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:35 AM
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The more a woman earns and the higher her IQ is, the more likely they are to be single. I think that can also be caused by women only looking for partners who are as smart/smarter and earn as much/more than them. Guys don't have as strict a requirement in those fields. I still think unattractive women have it easier. The "woman are wonderful" effect, avoiding male disposability, more likely to go to college, lower bar for attractiveness, it all adds up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:28 AM
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I doubt anyone will ever change their mind, I just like this sub because I can talk about the struggles men face.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:23 AM
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There is nothing they can do except hope the girl they have sex with doesn't mind. Obviously being good at oral and fingering is a given, every guy should do that regardless. The truth is, your partner reflects your own worth. With common phrases and rhetoric (supported by women) about how great big dicks are, having a BF who has a small dick makes the woman feel lower status. That's one of the reasons height is so important. Having a tall BF is a status symbol and makes the woman look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:22 AM
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FDS is/was full of single 30+ year old women and MtF people. The incels found that out years ago. It's a bunch of people fabricating or hugely exaggerating their life experiences so internet strangers will validate them. I'm not saying it's impossible for women to get free dinner dates, but almost everything on that sub is fictional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:17 AM
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Did nobody on this sub see all the Chad fishing posts that were all over reddit a while ago? Incels made tinder profiles with extremely attractive male model photos, then made them all have horrible "personalities". Some highlights were: photoshopping a swastika tattoo on their arm, admitting to going to jail for molesting a child in their description (and asking their matches to read it), or insulting every girl they matched with. Every single one of those profiles had many attractive women sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 07:00 PM
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Didn't expect to find so many simps here. Never pay for dinner unless she's your girlfriend. Anyone saying "if you ask, you pay" just conveniently ignores guys have to ask 99% of the time. I'll split the bill till I die and if a girl is offended by that they were looking for a simp anyways. Always remember the survey where 1/3rd of women admitted to going on a date solely for a free meal (real % is likely higher too).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 06:45 PM
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If you ask, you offer to pay That's just a convenient way to say "the guy pays" because it's the guy who's asking 99% of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 06:40 PM
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They're not really men's rights but they are interesting. Red pill is advice on relationships and getting women with a focus on improvement (learn game, work out, earn money). People who argue it's really about self improvement are coping, it came from pickup artist communities and still is centered on that. Black pill is like red pill but argues that largely unchangeable physical features matter a lot more. There isn't really pickup advice or anything, it's just a dark view of how lookist socie…
/r/MensRights19/04/22 11:11 PM
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Oh wait you're right, I missed the private subreddit notification when I tried it. Inceltear isn't private though.
/r/MensRights17/04/22 06:25 PM
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Back when the incel subs were around people from that subreddit would post pictures of children in swimsuits in the incel sub, screenshot it immediately (since the post would be deleted quickly by mods), then post that to inceltears as proof of pedophilia in an attempt to get the incel sub banned. It was so obvious because the post creation time in the screenshots would be seconds before. The entire sub is full of mentally ill people. I'll also point out that inceltears was banned, they all move…
/r/MensRights17/04/22 05:12 PM
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Having a degree isn't useless, which is supported by statistics (increase in lifetime earnings > cost of degree) and my personal experience. It's definitely way too expensive though I'm not arguing that. I was referring to most K-12 teachers being women (resulting in clear bias towards female students) and female-only opportunities like scholarships, clubs, and internships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:16 PM
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I'm not going to continue this argument but I will say that I think it's genuinely impossible for women to understand the problems that only men face. The woman behind Self-Made Man (lesbian woman lived as a man for 18 months) said herself she was surprised by how much she misunderstood or didn't know about living as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:55 PM
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A lot of women aren't consciously thinking "this guy's isn't my looksmatch". A 6/10 women who sleeps with some 8/10s will start viewing 6/10 guys as unattractive or just stop noticing them completely without any conscious action. The saying "the average man is invisible to women" is referring to women subconsciously filtering out average men, not actively comparing them to how she views herself. However, I will say that some women definitely do things like thinking "I deserve someone hotter". A …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:36 PM
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was a shorter is short Found why they can't get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:10 PM
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Lol typical boomer advice. Video games and porn don't matter unless you're seriously addicted to either. "Old fashioned values and manliness" wtf does that even mean and how would it ever help? This is some "posts picture of whiskey and cigar" on mgtow type advice. The real advice: focus on making money. Your life will never get worse by making more money (assuming same work and hours). Higher ups at most companies spend all day in meetings (basically doing no actual work while saying they are) …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:05 PM
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It's not that all young women are dating significantly older men, it's that men gain a bit more relationship power around 25. Societally, older men are still seen as attractive while women's attractiveness is largely tied to their youthfulness. It's why you see a 40 year old male actors with 23 year old female actresses in movies, they're both seen as attractive and will get views. Around 25 women start to lose their youthful looks. Men do too, but it's not as big a detriment since age isn't as …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 04:52 PM
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With regards to looksmaxxing: Male attractiveness is largely determined by largely unchangeable characteristics. Height is an obvious one, facial bone structure, masculine frame, having massive amounts of money or fame (both very hard to aquire). I'd still argue that looksmaxxing is the best thing to do to improve men's chances with women, but you can't change things too much since most of it is determined at birth. Putting oneself out there: this really depends on willingness and luck. I'd argu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 04:38 PM
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Don't have tattoos, generally agree with the title. I think tattoos are more often possessed by people who fit into certain crowds I'm not interested in: sorority girls, drug users, severe mental health issues, party girls. Tattoos aren't a hard deal breaker but it would be make me hesitant to pursue someone. I also don't find tattoos attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 04:22 PM
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I'll just add for readers that this applies to courts in general. The bias when comparing men vs women outcomes in courts is way more than the bias for other factors such as race. Family / divorce court differences are huge because it's typically a man vs a woman, so that bias really shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:55 PM
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Once all the kids are in school isn't it easy though? Both my parents worked my entire life (and my sibling's) so my view is skewed toward it doesn't take as much work as SAHMs want you to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:52 PM
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Really attractive guys don't need the red pill. Red pill is really only for average to kind of attractive guys to maximize their chances with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:36 PM
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It's because men are hornier than women, they will have sex with a woman who is less attractive than them. That guy then becomes the new minimum for that woman's standards, effectively ruling out any guy who is objectively the same level of attractiveness as the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:34 PM
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The reason going to the gym is so talked about is because it's one of the only non-destructive ways to substantially improve your looks (destructive would be something like plastic surgery). However, the reason women don't care that much is because your facial structure and height matter way more than how muscular you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:31 PM
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Looks have always mattered, the difference is women now have access to a much greater pool of guys, so their standards have risen to unrealistic levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:25 PM
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Men: With easy access to guys through social media and online dating, I think most women have an inflated view of their own physical attractiveness. You: Wow, Asperger's alert. Have you taken your Adderall today??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:22 PM
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Not to mention he has a good jawline, which is one of the most important factors for guys in attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:14 PM
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"Being more feminine" has never helped a single straight guy get laid more and it never will. Men emulate what gets them success with women and there's a reason the "frat bro" stereotype is so prevalent. I doubt any guy has ever said "Wow, that guy seems kind of gay and wears skirts, I bet he gets tons of girls".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:11 PM
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So why can’t men change to accommodate the female gaze if they want to attract women I mean it's very simple. Attraction is largely based on physical, unchangeable characteristics like height and facial bone structure. Short of taking HGH as a 14 year old or getting plastic surgery (both drastic options) there isn't a feasible way to change those. "Female gaze" filters out so many men because women have more options due to a lower libido, you have to be generally attractive to begin with to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:07 PM
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I agree. This is easily shown by the fact that college educated women still expect to date men who make equal or more money than them when men don't expect the same. This is in addition to their pre-existing other requirements like height and looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:01 PM
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due to more men pursuing trades over college education I would just like to point out that men have been systematically pushed out of education for decades now, it's not nearly as simple as they all just decided college isn't worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 02:59 PM
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Height and face matter way more than how muscular or well dressed you are. Clothing choice isn't going to hide the fact a guy is 6'4" or has a chiseled jawline. Women just have more access to attractive guys + lower libidos so their standards are inflated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 04:49 AM
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The whole beta male aspect comes from the fact that he continually defends his terrible relationship. If he left her people would respect him again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 04:38 AM
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It's cool to see it being acknowledged but I feel like there's such a hyper focus on "male loneliness" that it ignores other male issues (this goes for the post as well as society in general).
/r/MensRights05/04/22 06:27 AM
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He gets mad at her because she's treating him differently and subjectively worse. It's ok to be emotionally affected by things, humans aren't robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:26 PM
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I think this post is just a consequence of how overused the word "entitlement" is as well as how negative the connotation has become. Guys get annoyed or mad when they find out a woman they've been seeing is choosing to not have sex with them (despite different past behavior) because it implies the guy is not attractive enough to make her really want to sleep with him. Imagine a guy takes every new woman to expensive restaurants or does really fun dates like going to an amusement park. Then sudd…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:52 PM
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This is my take: late stage capitalism is the eventual accumulation of wealth and power towards the top percent of a capitalist society. It's the inevitable end game of capitalism because someone with a lot of money has a greater ability to make money and accumulate power than someone without. This leads to the America we see today: politicians are bought and paid for, every issue is viewed in terms of profit, and the power of anyone below the ultra-wealthy is insignificant. My response to free …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:08 PM
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It's irresponsible to have kids when you're not ready so I don't think that's the reason. I think economics, more career orientation (linked to economics), and less societal pressure at the reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:44 PM
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The lie detector wasn't actually working (or wasn't a real lie detector) but the women didn't know that, so they gave a more truthful answer (which was higher than their previous answer).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:32 PM
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Unless you were talking about dating men I don't think we'd meet on a date either.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 03:06 PM
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The incels found out FDS is just a bunch of ugly/overweight single women and transgenders. Basically everything on that sub is made up, so you probably won't go on a date with anyone who knows what it is.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 07:30 AM
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Does anyone actually believe in hardset alpha / beta rules? I always thought it was just a way of labeling certain behaviors combined with level of attractiveness. I don't think this connection is strong enough for comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 09:46 PM
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Any college grad who spent a semester abroad witnessed it. "It's not cheating if it's in a different country" is a real mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 05:35 AM
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The withholding sex parts is a problem if the woman applies that principle differently. No guy wants to wait 2 months to have sex with a woman who fucked 7 other guys after the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 05:26 AM
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100% of the time a woman suggests going to a restaurant after you've already suggested something else she is looking for a free meal. Restaurants for dates aren't good in general, I would never go to one with a woman who wasn't my girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 05:12 AM
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Desire to have sex is based off attraction How is that controversial?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:08 AM
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Adding onto that, I've seen a lot of younger girls hitting on older guys. Tinder has it's share of 16 year old girls trying to find 18+ guys (I've matched with multiple girls who were under 18 and promptly unmatched once I found out). In college, a lot of girls exclusively fuck guys who are at least 2 grades ahead of them. It's not black/white "creepy 20 year olds go after high schoolers", sometimes those high schoolers actively seek out a guy like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:24 AM
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My point was that based on the large amount of women I've met who admit to just using Tinder for validation, there's no way it's limited to just the really insecure because they would all have to be really insecure which is just statistically unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 05:16 PM
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Lmao "Just settle for the scraps Chad wouldn't even look at."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 02:39 PM
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Just waste thousands of dollars on a useless major because you're horny Thanks for the advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 02:37 PM
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Judging from the women I talked to in college, a lot of them did/do that. So not only "really insecure" girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 02:31 PM
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Women will literally go onto Tinder just to receive validation and get an ego boost. How is that not validating?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 02:30 PM
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"Effort works, all you have to do is use damaging drugs and structure your whole life around getting laid." I think you answered why guys aren't "trying hard" according to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 02:28 PM
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I was more talking about caring about your partner's exes rather than this specific situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:02 AM
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Men in general place lower value on the finances of women than the opposite. That removes the beta bux part of AFBB so there is not dual mating strategy. That said, a lot of guys do choose to sleep around if they can, then move into more stable relationships but it's not the same as "date this person for their resources" that dual mating strategy describes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 03:10 AM
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It's a very real fear for men that they will just being used as a resource (money, attention, stability) by their GFs instead of being in a mutual loving relationship. Something like this can possibly be evidence that's really what's happening to the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 03:04 AM
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I think the problem with dual mating strategy is that it implies women who practice it aren't actually attracted to who they marry/date long term. Sure, they value the finances and stability, but ultimately they aren't physically attracted to their bf or husband. I think the ideal scenario is that people remain consistent with the type of partner they seek out. That allows women to date, but the women who chased after the hottest guys in college should keep trying to do that afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 03:01 AM
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(Ignoring that almost all AITA posts are made up) I think some people are getting off topic because they don't like what the bf said. OP is asking if this is an example of dual mating strategy and I think it is. I went to college. I knew athletes. If you wanted to date a smart athlete, you would date a cross country runner. There is a very big difference between a college basketball player and a doctor. I think it indicates a shift in priorities. Also, she describes her and her bf as "decent loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 02:52 AM
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Totally true. Most therapists are women with mental problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:19 PM
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I don't think this is true. You are just more likely to see attractive people going on international adventures because they tend to have rich parents and use social media (like Instagram) more. There are tons of ugly and average guys doing the same stuff, they just don't feel the need to draw attention to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:17 PM
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Another post of women trying to steal men's ideas and apply it to men. It's obviously not the truth. People are obviously attracted to people hotter than they are, but men's preferences vary way more than women's do. The dual mating strategy just doesn't apply to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:54 PM
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OLD by far. Cold approaching is increasingly frowned upon (why bother talking to some random guy when you can invite a super attractive one over whenever you want). It also takes way more effort because you have to physically go somewhere. In an effort to success ratio, I think OLD wins by far because an average looking dude wouldn't have success in either scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 04:14 PM
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I'm just guessing the guy isn't as attractive as in that picture also. They're probably about similar in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 03:37 AM
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Women only approach attractive guys and even then it's rare. As someone who's always been in good shape, relatively social, and has experience with women, I've never been approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 03:13 AM
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How these reads to me: used up woman settles for her looksmatch. People tend to end up in long term relationships with someone of relatively similar attractiveness. She was 34, not exactly a super "high value woman". It's well known that guys have more "success" as they grow older due to the "find a betabux" drive kicking in. I doubt an average 20 year old guy does well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 03:11 AM
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I think everyone's rule should be "don't have a requirement you can't meet yourself". The problem is that attractive guys sleep with average girls, then average girls raise their standards beyond their own worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 03:01 AM
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Yeah nobody needs an economics course to understand the sexual marketplace. "Women have more options" is pretty simple. The only complicated part is that society indoctrinates boys into the "American (sex) dream" of hard work being more effective than it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 02:59 AM
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The problem is you're trying to define feminists as some paragon of equality and social justice. Real feminists lobby against changing the definition of rape to make it more clear that men can be victims. Real feminists are the ones who are actually affecting laws or culture in society, and they aren't as benevolent of unbiased as people like to pretend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 12:32 PM
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I'm glad someone posted this. I've seen those recent posts on 2X and my god the ages keep rising. A 19 year old can make their own decisions, even if they're shitty ones. Any guy who was on tinder in college knows that a significant number of 16 year old girls will make a tinder trying to hook up with college guys. It's not like these "predatory men" have to hang outside a high school. Some girls just seek out much older guys until they find one. That would be like me walking around crappy Chica…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 12:23 PM
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Focusing on individual households is a red herring. The most important part of this exists at the societal level. Women have many opportunities that men don't have in the form of women-only scholarships, clubs, hiring programs, and business grants. It's not like these are financed solely by women, men pay the price for something they can't participate in. The real problem coming from the vestiges of gender roles is all the programs that men finance that solely benefit women. As soon as a woman e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 10:53 PM
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For attracting women: Looks are most important by far. Most of looks is genetic (face, height, frame). Working out (large biceps / chest / back with low body fat % is most important) and figuring out a good hairstyle + some attractive outfits is basically all you can do. Second is number. Maximizing how many women you talk to maximizes your chances of getting one. Tinder, workplace (if you don't care about your job), hobbies, whatever gets you in contact with women. Third is how you talk to them…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:22 AM
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The long haired "feminine" man is probably tall and broad shouldered. No girl pictures a wide hips / thin shoulders, no muscle tone, short guy with long hair when thinking about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:15 AM
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It's societal propaganda against "the unproductive male" because the economy needs men to spend more money than those activities require. Also, women love to blame men's lack of success or inadequacy on choices the men are making. Extremely biased (towards women) education and hiring systems means men's hard work leads to less success, so why bother participating in a rigged system?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:05 AM
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There are a lot more resources (gender exclusive clubs, scholarships, hiring programs) for young women than there are for young men in the US. Add in the fact that so many women go into human resources (in charge of hiring) and are literally encouraged to hire other women, success takes a lot more work for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:58 AM
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That's literally every entertainment industry. Also, if a guy works the bare minimum and dies after spending his whole life playing video games, I really don't care. As long as he wasn't using more resources than he produced he didn't hurt anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:54 AM
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I think in general, men have a greater awareness of financial responsibility and the consequences of their choices. Most of the guys I talk to about college made their decisions with heavy influence of how it would affect their finances / future financial comfort. The same isn't true for the women I've talked to. The societal shadow of breadwinner husband still applies today, I know many women who's entire goal in life is to be a stay-at-home mom and I know 0 men like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:35 PM
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Persistence is stupid because it's almost always on the man to do it. Guys will have way more success just maximizing the number of girls they talk to and acting like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:30 PM
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The wall is 2 things: Generally speaking, most ~30 year old women will start to feel a sort of "biological clock" counting down as their fertility decreases if they are still single without children. Men generally have less pressure due to societal and genetic differences. Older males are societally seen as way more attractive than older females. Just look at Hollywood and the stereotype of an actress reaching some age and suddenly not being cast in anything. Youthfulness is associated with attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:22 PM
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Yeah, my point is they're being paid low wages for mind-numbing work, so they won't bother speaking up. What do you even need to hear anyways? They say the same things every time and most of the information shows up on a screen. I've gone through checkout lanes while listening to music and have not had problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 03:37 PM
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Men definitely face discrimination but society doesn't care. Men's problems extend past sexlessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 03:29 PM
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I like how you list "over medicated" and "plastics and shitty diets" considering most of Gen Z are teenagers and those aren't up to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 03:24 PM
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How teenagers speak at their boring, low-paying retail or fast-food job is not how they speak normally. It doesn't take a lot of brain cells to figure that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 03:20 PM
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That potato gets more action than most "reasonably attractive" guys also, but only if she wants to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 08:30 AM
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Attractive guys do it all the time, either when their parents are gone or in their car.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:55 PM
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Not to mention people face greater burdens (everything costs more and newer grads aren't making more money) so guys can't even afford to move out. Not like they can major in CS and get handed a job at a FAANG because they're female.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:52 PM
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You forgot the 2 most important things: how tall is the guy and how attractive is his face? The examples you gave are used commonly because bluepilled society tells you: hard work = success with women. "Just wait, when you're 20-something with a good job then women will be interested". As bluepilled as society is, it basically acknowledges the 80/20 rule but writes it off as immaturity that women eventually grow out of. The problem is women never really grow out of it, they just learn to "settle…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 01:53 PM
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The funny thing is, it doesn't matter. Both can still be successful with guys. Obviously whoever is more attractive will be more successful, but neither will struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 01:47 PM
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Looks are the most significant factor in attracting anyone of any gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 05:34 AM
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Yeah that friend zone thing is just completely false. If a girl friend zones you, the chances her friends are into you are very slim (like the opposite of pre-selection bias). Plus, if you get friend zoned it's almost a guarantee you basically just become an orbiter or emotional tampon (a guy who gives a girl free stuff and/or attention without getting much in return).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 05:32 AM
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When the IncelsTM of the internet learn how to exist without demonizing everyone else The thing is, incels are the ones who are demonized the most. They're basically a bunch of virgins who realized that looks>everything in dating and that looks affect almost every part of your life. The whole "mandatory girlfriends" and "women are lesser" sentiments I never saw in the communities I looked at.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 05:29 AM
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I went to a college where the men were much more attractive than the women (despite an equal gender ratio) and dating options still heavily favored women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 07:48 PM
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I've dated a very wide spectrum of men I don't see how that's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 07:46 PM
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It's an analogy to point out the difference in situation between (average or less) men and women when dating. It's not saying anything about homeless people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 07:44 PM
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Yeah I don't think you have to be careful to not look unnatural unless your talking more about side effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 07:40 PM
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Your implied cause and effect is wrong. The rise in sexlessness is also alongside the rise in online dating. Women's sex rates haven't significantly changed, men's have. The difference is women can now connect with guys they would never normally meet, so they don't have to stay in their own groups / immediate location. The competitive pool for men got a lot larger. Video games and porn are fun, but no guy who isn't getting regular sex plays/watches them and goes "I'm so glad I'm doing this inste…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:47 PM
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Actually I changed my mind. I want you to be right. That means women are consistently fucking attractive but smelly dudes. Whether either of us is right, hygiene isn't a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:39 PM
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What proof do you have? If you keep sucking dick right after going to a club, everyone you meet will be sweaty. A guy who showers and does laundry regularly isn't going to mysteriously ignore his crotch.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:26 PM
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It's not like girl's vaginas are some sweat free zone either. The hygiene argument is just a way to strawman sexually unsuccessful men into some weird smelly freak stereotype. In actuality, the majority of men who struggle to get dates / sex / relationships will be normal dudes who take reasonable care of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:00 AM
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Any guy who's had to plan a date will agree it's a chore. So many women are incredibly flaky or noncommittal. Finding something interesting that is also not too far or expensive takes some thought. It's not super hard, it's just a burden that only men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:15 PM
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That is supposed to be true but again, courts are overwhelmingly biased against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:45 PM
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I think for the upper, very wealthy class it matters for both genders. For the middle and lower class it doesn't matter, at least for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:41 PM
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yet you would think its a hate sub based off the comments. That's how I feel anytime a twoX post hits the front page, which is frequently. The truth is women and men do similar things, it's only socially illegal for men to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:36 PM
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You aren't allowed to insult women in any way as a guy. Jokingly referring to a group of women as sluts is terrible for a guy. Women seriously calling a group of men rapists or pedos for no reason is completely fine. There's been this constant attack on male spaces and culture for decades and this is just more of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:34 PM
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Or you could just plan dates that don't require spending money? Grab coffee but arrive before her so you can buy yours before she gets there. Do something outside like go to a beach or for a walk. Myself and my friends have gone on many dates where we never paid for the women and have had sex. We aren't gigachads or anything. Buying a girl dinner may marginally increase your chances but it isn't worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:29 PM
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You enjoy spending $35 on a stranger? Why would you do that? Guy's obviously get the worse deal in dating. They have to plan and pay for dates. It usually takes multiple first dates to find the right person. A significant proportion of women are in it just for the free meal. I never spend money on dates unless it's more than a couple dates in. Fuck buying girls drinks, it's a waste of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:26 PM
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Women traditionally handled housework because they didn't work outside of the house. Whichever party is working less should do more of the housework. I doubt many people would disagree with that. I think a lot of the problem of being a stay-at-home dad comes from divorce courts being overwhelmingly biased towards women. At least personally, I wouldn't want to be a stay-at-home dad because I don't think I would have the same protections a stay-at-home mom does.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:19 PM
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The "men don't put effort into hygiene" is complete delusion made up to discredit the struggles of ugly and average looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:15 PM
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I remember a survey where 1/3rd of women respondents admitted to going on a date solely for the free food.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:06 PM
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It's not just that. Some women will immediately think you are low value if you're a virgin for too long. Some women won't want to take your "special first time". Some women won't care. It's just a risk you don't have to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 07:00 PM
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Lie but keep it realistic. Admitting you are a virgin can only hurt you. Saying you've slept with 1 or 2 women is the best bet, just don't give many specifics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 06:53 PM
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The overwhelming majority of K-12 teachers are female. Women have a stronger in-group bias and education in general is geared towards women. A woman will do better than an equal man, so women are more likely to want to go to college. Then you can throw in all the rest of the free shit they get. Diversity bias (in both college and job recruiting), women only scholarships, women only clubs, even stuff as simple as getting free help from nerdy guys. Overall is extremely unequal (60% of US college g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 06:51 PM
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It's the concept of dual mating strategy. Women (while young, attractive, energetic) will sleep around in their late teens and twenties, then find some provider (a guy who will pay for her and her kids) to marry when their biological clock starts ticking in the late twenties or thirties. The problem is that women who behave in exactly that way are common enough to support the concept. Additionally, it makes a ton of sense. Even growing up bluepilled, you will hear "don't worry, when your 25 wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 12:36 PM
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Nah I never thought of the "virtuous" thing when women talk about "good men". The reason it's an argument is because every guy is or knows some truly nice, hardworking, relatively successful and stable guys who would fit into that description but have no success with women even if they aren't ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 12:23 PM
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That's actually a good point. If I think about it, my life is the same where half my friends have parents with terrible marriages or they are divorced. Kinda sucks to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:45 PM
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I think it's more that women will wear makeup and take downright misleading photos, then decide that they deserve a hot guy based on how they look in the photo, not how they look in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 01:27 PM
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Yeah this is just not true. So many of the stories (especially the really scary ones) that guys tell include the background of their wife. You will frequently see stuff like "never partied, low body count, she was intelligent, she seemed perfect" and then of course it ends like "she decided she missed out and divorced me". The point is that no matter what they are like before marriage, there's no guarantee they will be the same person after. Also, all girls are visible to guys. You're saying chu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 01:21 PM
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I'm guessing yes. The internet has luckily spread the stories of how horrible divorce is for guys. It's a risk that a lot of guys will decide not to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 01:17 PM
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I actually think it has to do with societal rhetoric. Growing up, I always heard the phrase "women mature faster than boys". We also look down on a lot of "guy humor", like dick jokes, as being immature. This leads to all these women who have this overinflated sense of how "mature" they are, so they go for older guys. In reality, I've never felt that women and men the same age have different levels of maturity, it's just a stupid assumption because women start puberty earlier. As for the questio…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 01:15 PM
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Any guy who's interacted with enough girls irl or online will have met women who try to use their female privilege to get free shit. That's all I see FDS as, women desperately trying to score free dinners and lying about their lives online.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:59 AM
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I've said it once and I'll say it again. Toxic masculinity is just feminism's way of saying the only problems men face are caused by other men. It's the only "male issue" that feminists ever talk about. In reality, most guys act a certain way because girls like them to act that way. All the guys I've talked to about it never had their friends shame them, but they were wary of exhibiting certain behaviors around women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:55 AM
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Average guys never get hints. Ugly guys never get hints. Handsome guys get hints and super handsome guys will get blatantly hit on more than handsome guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:49 AM
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I don't like tattoos in general. However, just from personal experience, the women I know who've gotten tattoos tend to have some mental issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:47 AM
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I just want to point out for all the talk of women being oppressed: women make up 60% of college graduates and have been the majority for decades. The economic power that women hold will continue to increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:46 AM
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I imagine he's neurodivergent in some way. There's no way a "normal" guy hasn't tried to have sex before the 28, and being a super tall white guy, he would have succeeded.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:43 AM
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Casual sex is way different from a relationship. Casual sex is just how hot the other person is and how good they are at sex. So "why should a woman have sex with you" is just answered with because she finds you attractive. Relationships, where you spend a significant amount of time with each other, should add value into your life other than a person to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:39 AM
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When females face a problem, it's society's fault. When males face a problem, it's their fault.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 02:38 AM
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They couldn't use apex or it would make people think of apex fallacy, something feminists like to ignore.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 02:38 AM
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There was a popular thread complaining that they don't have male friends. They actually expect men to just serve them whatever they need. Male-female friendships are mostly one-sided, that's why you always see women complaining about their lack of male friends and guys never complain about their lack of female friends.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 02:36 AM
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Being nice isn't attractive, that's all there is too it. Any "he's so nice / kind" comments implying attraction come after the fact that the guy is hot to begin with. Conversely, being kind of a douche who postures a bunch is attractive to at least some girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 02:25 AM
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A ton of therapists are damaged people themselves and all they do is preach bluepill BS at you. They are ok for some topics but not for redpill related stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:53 PM
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Most of redpill centers around the alpha fucks, beta bucks theory. Just read some sidebar content on theredpill subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:50 PM
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It worked for me and my friends. It helped me get better and more comfortable talking to women and I got really fucking good at reading body language and interest. You have to selectively choose what information to act on though based on your goals. The redpill subreddit is pretty terrible, so many people act like they're redpill jesus, but some of the side bar content is worth reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:48 PM
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I got to redpill from light PUA stuff because it gave me a gameplan for how to talk to and attract women. Then some of the stuff they were saying made a whole lot of sense. I don't read redpill stuff anymore because it's full of super preachy douches who lie about their success with women but I already got the good information.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:44 PM
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This is a terrible take. "Would you fundamentally change who you are?" 99% of people would never say yes to that. Being the super rich son of some Saudi would be cool, but it's an unknown and I like my family so I would never trade places. That doesn't invalidate the problems I face as a not rich dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:31 PM
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Alpha fucks beta bucks at work. Ugly men have children later.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 05:00 AM
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This isn't PUA or TRP. The advice of both of those is to move on quickly, which isn't happening here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 10:52 AM
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TRPs is great for normal guys. You aren't taught how to actually approach or talk to women as a guy growing up. TRP gives you a sort of script or game plan you can fall back on until you feel more comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 10:50 AM
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The problem is that toxic masculinity is the only "male problem" that feminists acknowledge. It's just a convenient way of saying the only problems that men face are caused by other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 05:56 AM
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This disagrees with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 05:51 AM
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I think it comes down to nice guys frequently filling the role of the emotional tampon. An emotional tampon is a guy who is interested in a girl but solely serves as a person for her to complain to. So these nice guys keep hearing girls complaining about how terrible other guys are, compare it to how they act, and realize something must be fucked up if they can't get a girlfriend or get laid while the other guys (who girls complain about) can.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 05:42 AM
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Not a CS major but my friends in CS see it and it's happened in my field.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 12:57 PM
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Biased court system, a ton of "women only" stuff like scholarships and small business grants / better social safety nets, and more likely to go and graduate from college are some examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 08:17 AM
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It's like acknowledging the sky is blue when you live in a cult that believes the sky is red and will ostracize you for saying otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 07:57 AM
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More like "stemlords" who worked hard their whole academic career then get passed over for a CS internship because a woman decided to apply for it (and it doesn't matter her credentials).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 07:56 AM
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Women are privileged in dating but this post is stupid because female privilege extends way beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 07:52 AM
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I see so much evidence of this and yet nobody seems willing to quantify it (and I get called sexist for pointing it out). I bet the moment a researcher suggested something like that their funding would dry up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 07:51 AM
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Men usually get that through a connection like their parent works for the company (which I still don't like). Women just get that for being a women in a largely male industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 07:50 AM
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Female privilege is way beyond just dating. Biased court system, more societal safety nets, more likely to get a college education, it's present at all levels of our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 07:49 AM
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Female privilege extends way beyond "men are horny".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 07:47 AM
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I saw a comment on twoX where a woman was talking about all the advantages she's had in life being a pretty girl. She ended the comment with something like "I hate the patriarchy". Even when admitting how much she's advantaged she's still somehow a victim in her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 07:45 AM
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You're so far into your own delusions and prejudices you don't even acknowledge reality anymore. I obviously can't change your mind since you'll just repeat the same things with larger and larger text.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 04:58 PM
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Maslow's heirarchy of needs puts intimacy / companionship / sex on the third level. That's 1 step above "I am not in immediate physical danger". People can't just choose to turn off their biological drives. It actually hurts a guy if he thinks women's advice is good. "Be funny, be yourself, try out a hobby", it's all superficial. Humor doesn't matter if you're not attractive. Looks status money reign supreme and that's not the advice women or society will give men. You're also assuming nice guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 12:44 PM
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Online is the most common way couples meet nowadays. Online dating is real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 03:26 AM
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https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=895442
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 03:18 AM
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He's short but he's funny. He's tall and he's funny. Shortness is something men have to make up for and studies show it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 02:53 AM
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Women don't initiate for several reasons. First, they just don't have to since guys initiate. Second, they are scared of rejection and never had to get over that fear. Third, they suck so much at it. Bumble shows this, when girls have to message first it's literally just a "hey" or a single letter that basically means guys have to message first. Also, I think it's been shown that women slut shame way more than guys do. I love that emotional labor has caught on as a thing. It's like women made up…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 02:48 AM
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Wdym "nice guys don't want those women"? That's just completely untrue. Nice guys exist because society tells young men that being nice is what gets men dates. Society also actively discourages seeking the truth, look at how the redpill is viewed by most people. Nice guys like all types of girls, they just become frustrated virgins because what they are told works and what actually works are 2 different things. I would be pissed too if I wanted a girlfriend and had to hear constant stories about…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 02:42 AM
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That's it, thanks for the source. A 99.05% left swipe rate, just insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 01:52 PM
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I think "standoffish" is more of a personality, they would just be neutral. I know a lot of women and I would describe very few as warm and welcoming. "Don't be a raging asshole to literally everyone" isn't a tall order.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 12:30 PM
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I don't buy this "constant flirting" thing. I'm friends with women and spend a lot of time around them and they've never really brought it up. Maybe if they went to parties or bars they would get flirted with, but isn't that the point of going to parties or bars? To interact with other people? I don't think the degree to which people's dating problems affect their lives is the same for women vs men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 12:28 PM
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What guy wouldn't have wanted a girlfriend when he was in the horniest years of his life? The truth is, relationships start to lose their "magic" as you grow up. They aren't some mysterious thing to be explored anymore because even if you've never had a relationship you know what to expect. Doesn't mean they aren't good, but there is something to be said about "naive wonder".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:50 AM
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Hypergamy isn't about the initial choice, it's the fact that a hypergamous woman is always looking to upgrade. This means they are only with you until they find someone hotter / richer to cling onto, nothing about you actually matters to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:42 AM
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Face height frame. Also, the whole "I just want a guy who's taller than me" ignores the fact that they only fuck or date guys significantly taller than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:40 AM
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I think the concept that a women can just make a lie about a man and ruin his life with no personal repercussions holds more danger than the chances of someone being an actual psycho killer. Luckily, it's rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:37 AM
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What kind of old man take is this? "Young women left online dating"? That's just completely untrue. Over 40% of couples now meet online and women are increasingly hostile to "cold approaches". This is like when boomers say "just walk up to a manager and shake his hand". Sure, that works if you want it to take 10 times as long to find something instead of utilizing modern resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:35 AM
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If that analogy actually applied, there would be no couples or dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:31 AM
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You mean the men who talk about being on tinder for years and never getting a single date? That's like a rich person complaining to a poor person?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:27 AM
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Luckily women don't need a personality and can still get whatever they want (sex or a relationship) easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:26 AM
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Anyone else remember that average-at-best woman from some nordic country who had something like a 99.7% tinder left swipe rate? And she still found a boyfriend? Yeah I have no sympathy for women's dating "struggles".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:24 AM
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A super rare instance (that can also happen to guys) isn't a good argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:19 AM
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Don't forget in your analogy that all the ice cream would be free.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:18 AM
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I like to think of it as a buffet. Women have this fully stocked, all you can eat buffet but a lot of it is rotten. How visibly rotten it is varies but 99+% of the rotten stuff won't kill you. The other side is a starving dude with no food. I'd rather have the buffet. I honestly don't think it's that much work to find a decent (and attractive) partner as a women if you focus on indicators of a good partner instead of just picking the hottest guy who wants to sleep with them. You have to "settle"…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:18 AM
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Do you have a source for that 19% number? Everything I've looked up says 40-50%, the lowest I could find was 39% if you only looked at a single year.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 03:00 PM
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Pretty typical. I'm seeing women getting job offers left and right while I'm struggling with a much better resume.
/r/MensRights26/04/21 01:55 AM
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My favorite "that's not real feminism" comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/68v91b/woman_who_lied_about_being_sexually_assaulted/dh23pwo/
/r/MensRights26/04/21 01:40 AM
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Except what they want is basically "a loyal, hardworking wife who is attractive (to me) and not a constant financial drain". That shouldn't be unrealistic. 50% of marriages end in divorce, and divorce is way worse for men, so why would they marry? That's basically mgtow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 12:47 AM
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I'm experiencing that now as a recent college grad in the business field. Great resume, university, internship, but barely get any interviews and it's always a female HR person. Meanwhile I know women who just started applying to jobs a month ago and already have offers.
/r/MensRights26/04/21 12:03 AM
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Don't forget about the female managers who actively discriminate in favor of women. Men are definitely not always making the hiring decisions.
/r/MensRights25/04/21 11:59 PM
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The point of MGTOW is that women aren't worth being in a relationship in due to the risks (divorce, false accusations) and costs (money, time, attention) being more than the not-guaranteed benefits (sex/intimacy). They want a relationship because an ideal relationship makes you happier, but they know they won't be able to find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 11:57 PM
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Is STEM difficult if you coast your way through college and get hired because of an internal gender quota and can't get fired? For men, STEM is difficult because you have to compete. A lot of women are automatically placed above that competition.
/r/MensRights25/04/21 11:53 PM
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The "ideal wife" for a MGTOW or mgtow-leaning guy has a whole list of requirements to fit because they view any women who don't fit those requirements as too dangerous to get into a relationship with. The second part is that the chances of finding a woman who fits all those requirements is so low that she may as well not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 10:11 PM
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Don't waste your money buying drinks for strangers either. Just supports the entitled attitude a lot of women get.
/r/MensRights25/04/21 05:16 PM
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Yeah that's not true at all. If some short, ugly dude talked about "how many women he slept with" everybody would assume he paid for it or is just lying. Edit: realized I misinterpreted the comment and actually agree with it. I guess my point is just that looks affect how people perceive your actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 08:58 PM
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Misandrists are often created because they view an event as an example of pervasive misogyny when it isn't. Remember Brock Turner, the stanford swimmer who raped the girl? When that happened, women screamed about "rape culture" and "all men need to be told not to rape". The part I actually had to look up, was that 2 men stopped Brock mid-rape and held him until police arrive (yet the media didn't cover that part as much afaik). Women also complained about the light sentence he got and said it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 02:14 PM
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It's not the fact that they want a tall partner, it's the fact that it's an arbitrary cutoff. So many women set 6'0" or taller as their requirement when they couldn't point out a 6'0" tall man in a crowd. I've said both 6'0" and 5'11" when women ask and there is a noticeable decrease in interest if I say 5'11", despite there being no functional difference. Also, the fact that women are asking me that in person shows the "I just want someone taller than me" is kind of bullshit for a lot of them. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 02:06 PM
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But many men can and do suffer from things that lower their libido. This leaves women confused That's why the person commented that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 01:53 PM
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I think you missed the point. If they have the time, they are using other (higher effort) methods too. It's not like they have to pick one thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 01:50 PM
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even if you're a so called chad or an attractive woman. It usually follows the following steps : Texting for a couple of days to make the girl comfortable and then meeting up You must have missed the chadfishing surge. For extremely attractive guys (and probably most girls) tinder can be 2 messages then you get the number and they're willing to come over that night.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 03:26 PM
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It's not lifelong bachelor, it's lifelong virgin. Think about how popular the term "incel" is right now and all the stereotypes associated with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 11:23 AM
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Women are doing better because of education and jobs. More female teachers = women have more success in education. Gender quotas, diversity hires = more women in high paying jobs and going to great colleges. Our society believes women have worth simply for being women but men don't get that beyond "he can lift heavy boxes".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:30 PM
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I don't want to spend time searching for it, but there's a study that tried to approximate how much more money a short guy would have to earn to be as attractive as a tall guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:27 PM
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This sounds like redpill bs. 90% of attraction just comes down to looks. Maybe a decent wingman could increase your chances of getting laid but not by a lot. Also, the tone of this post is kind of stupid. "Inhibited" has a negative connotation, as if not wanting to be a man-whore is a problem. The reality is, some men enjoy partying and trying to get laid while others don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:25 PM
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Mgtows, especially the younger ones, need constant reminders of the dangers of a traditional relationship in modern times. You're basically fighting an evolutionary urge to find a partner that's almost as strong as the desire to eat and drink. The older you get the more it goes away, but mgtow is kind of designed to be older men warning younger men, so they need those reminders.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:19 PM
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I guarantee incels have heard "just focus on yourself" more than once. Society likes to pretend like some type of romantic or sexual relationship isn't important for happiness, even when psychology shows how much it can change someone's life and mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:16 PM
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Men go on tinder because it's a relatively low effort way to have a chance of finding a date. Most men have to utilize every resource they have just to try and get a date without waiting years. They don't like tinder, they just know they have to use it to increase their chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:13 PM
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Cat lady is kind of the female equivalent of a neckbeard though. Shut-in, no dating prospects, and obsessed with something. Men and women both have their negative stereotypes if they can't find a partner, though I would argue men face wayyy more prejudice for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:10 PM
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Yeah. It can either be "hey can you help me with the homework" for every single homework, or not pulling their weight in group projects (since they never had to build a good level of programming skill).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:07 PM
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A lot of incels are super short because of their mother. Just stopping LVMs from reproducing wouldn't get rid of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 08:43 PM
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The red pill community is designed for less attractive dudes. It sells this idea that the things you have control over (mostly how you talk to girls) are enough to get you laid. It's designed to get guys interested in it. However, I still think physical attractiveness is the most important thing. I don't care how much game you have, if you tried approaching a girl that a 9/10 guy is talking to, you won't be successful. Really attractive people just live different lives. Redpill won't work for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 08:37 PM
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I think it comes down to the view that redpill has on women's lives vs men. For men, unless you're born into extreme wealth or genetically blessed, you have to work hard to see success. For women, people will naturally take care of you and it's hard to fail, so they will do well even if they barely try. You can see it in college CS programs. There are these men who've been programming since they were 8 working super hard to have a high GPA and good looking projects just to try and get an intervi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 08:30 PM
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The two groups are different because physical attractiveness affects every aspect of life (halo effect). People are really bad at conceptualizing something they've never experienced. There's also the problem of the societal rhetoric. Ugly men get told "Just be a gentleman, work hard in school, you'll be successful some day". A lot of attractive men will receive positive affirmation that relates to stuff that doesn't really matter for them, like humor or how nice they are. Society in general won'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 08:20 PM
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That just shows the disconnect. For the below top-tier male, finding a date takes a lot of focused work if you don't want to wait years. The whole "just wait until you find someone you connect with" doesn't work anymore, even in real life it became a numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 08:02 PM
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Blackpill or redpill, both say it. Women go after higher value men, the men have sex with them then ghost since they're higher value and don't care about anything more than that with those women. The lower value men get used for attention / validation by women (match, text a bit) then get ghosted. The basic difference is men will fuck down, so women have easy access to high value sex but not as much to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 08:19 PM
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The men wanna fuck em, the women want to promote feminism. That doesn't even have to be true though. The "women are wonderful" effect, combined with the huge push for increasing "diversity" (women) in the workplace, motivates it. Saying the guys want to fuck them just paints guys as uncontrollably horny.
/r/MensRights06/04/21 02:00 AM
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60% of US college graduates are women. Apparently "the experts" don't really know why...even though the clear reasons (bias in earlier education, gender quotas, greater access to financial aid) are staring them right in the face.
/r/MensRights06/04/21 01:53 AM
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All but one of my guy friends who has sex or is in a relationship only got there because of redpill advice. There is a lot of bad stuff, but the societal idea of "work on yourself and wait" or "just be friends with people" is terrible for young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 06:05 AM
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