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misandryBig_Psychology_3/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/26 05:03 PM
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Great idea!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/26 05:16 AM
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Yeah the problem is that you’re hesitant to lie. Most feminists do suspect that the feminist literature is fake but they see benefit so they push it anyway.
/r/MensRights16/08/26 07:38 PM
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What’s this word salad that you’ve served?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/26 06:16 PM
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Except no. This phrase, although a scam, holds lot of social power. Any time people bring it up, it shuts down any objective discussion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/26 06:14 PM
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Yes “emotional labor” is a gaslighting phrase used to overstate the complexity of a task.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/26 06:13 PM
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Yes. Academic gender studies is disgustingly misandrist with a thin paint coat of respectability, so it’s not obviously misandrist at first glance. By the time the student understands enough, they have likely already internalized this misandry and no longer uncomfortable about hating men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/26 10:26 PM
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Not quite. People in poverty tend to be more promiscuous, and sexually actively earlier. This is regardless of gender. It’s a class based difference, not gender based.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:09 AM
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That’s because you believe that you’re Superman. Not all men think that way.
/r/MensRights13/08/26 10:20 PM
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Another misandrist "knight in shining armor". "We men are so powerful we don't need sympathy, hell we don’t even need laws to protect us, we’re that powerful" /s Don't drag the other men into the slime with you. You can speak for yourself, don't speak for the rest of us.
/r/MensRights13/08/26 06:06 PM
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This seems like a thoughtless take. Compared to a woman who's sexually desirous of the man, who would be excited about "bodies" who are uninterested in sex? This is surreal "reasoning"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:42 AM
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Sigh - drunk comment? Why would someone apologize when asked for elaboration?
/r/MensRights12/08/26 05:27 AM
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That’s extrapolation. Why would you assume gender would have changed your reaction completely? Probably you’d have the same reaction regardless of gender.
/r/MensRights11/08/26 02:48 PM
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Internalized misandry? The post seems to be written by a man who imagines that he’s a Superman? But the post goes beyond that, insisting that every man is all powerful and not deserving of sympathy, and the post insists that all women are delicate and do need special protections from others. What a callous attitude towards other men!
/r/MensRights11/08/26 02:46 PM
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No, the post specified that the reason is mystical, let’s not invent some other negative reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:16 AM
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No, this is a common misconception. In the USA, married people spend the same total time in “work” if that includes domestic chores, child care, commute and job work. There is no difference between men and women in hours worked per week, if we consider all of these types of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 02:09 AM
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> impossible This is patently false, since many families pull this off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 02:06 AM
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In the USA, there are many brands that make pants with large pockets for women. My wife and I found some with few minutes of google search. Did you not find these? Or did you find them visually inadequate?
/r/MensRights11/08/26 01:04 AM
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Gotcha. Here’s my personal history around this topic. I used to be very upset about women’s pants having tiny pockets. My wife too felt, hey this is unfair to women. We have a mutual friend who’s the design lead of a major clothing company in India. She told us that they evaluate major design choices with groups of customers. She claimed that most women give a high priority to how pants drape and the body form that results. She said that the number of women who want pockets at the cost of poorly…
/r/MensRights11/08/26 12:50 AM
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You are welcome here. Your comment is a negative and dangerous view of men though. I’m criticizing the content of your comment. I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to make you feel unwelcome. In retrospect, I made my response personal; I shouldn’t have; now I edited my comment to be respectful, but still I call out that you are completely wrong.
/r/MensRights11/08/26 12:22 AM
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Way to contradict yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:49 PM
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No, that’s not me. You confused me with the parent commenter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:27 PM
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It’s 4 to 8 years gap fwiw lifespan difference between genders.
/r/MensRights10/08/26 11:08 PM
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Right, that’s what I said. But you’re somehow still imagining it’s a date and they want to have sex with you. Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:07 PM
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Huh? Obviously people with high sex drive will be upset without sex. It’s not surprising for some to get therapy. What’s your objection to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:06 PM
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You mean they’re taking your money?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:05 PM
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That’s making friends. Not “building a future” like a mother/father partner couple. But friendships don’t need to be exclusive, it’ll just be one more person to be friends with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:05 PM
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I’m talking about having coffee. And you keep insisting it’s a date and someone “wants to have sex with you”?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:03 PM
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Gotcha, I too labored under this misperception. Until I asked many women about their pants. I learnt that most of the women I asked do not want you use pockets since they find them too limiting; instead they prefer to carry a purse with significantly more capacity than pants pockets. In other words, tiny pockets aren’t a deprivation; instead, they’re the right design choice that works with a purse.
/r/MensRights10/08/26 11:02 PM
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No, that doesn’t add up. If blue collar jobs are truly low spending power, then why do you think that repels women but attracts men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:35 PM
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Wait, i thought you said that women still can be exploited for chores. Are you losing track of your own dumbass arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:32 PM
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Having sex with you is “mining you for resources”?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:31 PM
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seems superficial to call first date conversations “deep” and a life objective in itself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:30 PM
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That’s called having coffee, not a date with a prospective partner. Seems like intentional dumbness to gaslight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:29 PM
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What’s with this snark talk? Now who can understand your comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:28 PM
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Stop this annoying pattern of claiming that you know men better than any man commenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:26 PM
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Hmm, why project your own priority about sex on others? It’s fairly evident that sex has different level of importance to different people at different phases of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:25 PM
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Again a chorus of women shaming men for having high sex drive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:22 PM
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Yes 100% correct
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:17 PM
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I’m a man. In such a world, I’d have women friends but I wouldn’t date. Isn’t procreation and child-rearing the objective of the mother-father partnership? But in this hypothetical world, we just live to grow old without producing children and humanity only lasts one generation, so where does the concept of mother/father couples enter the picture in that world? Seems that in a world without procreation, there’s no children nor parent couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:12 PM
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What a man-hating patriarchal comment! Seems to be written by a man who imagines that he’s a Superman? But the comment goes beyond that, insisting that every man is all powerful and not deserving of sympathy, and the comment insists that all women are delicate and do need special protections from others. What a callous attitude towards other men!
/r/MensRights10/08/26 10:08 PM
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You think that women’s preferences in pants is worse than what men find good in pants? What’s the difference in women’s pants that disappoint you so?
/r/MensRights10/08/26 10:01 PM
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Is it because men of the same age are mostly dead, but the women live longer?
/r/MensRights10/08/26 09:58 PM
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India, for example. A single lady can adopt any child. A single man is restricted to adopt a boy only.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:59 PM
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Classic erasure of non elite men. This is a feature of human perception, non elite men seem invisible and we treat them as disposable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:56 PM
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No, that’s the “marketing” definition of feminism that feminism = gender equality. That’s only to recruit noob feminists. The real definition of feminism is that it’s activism to improve the lives of women. So non feminists see it as gender equality; experienced feminists see it as gender war.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:54 PM
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Right, but with unstained wood, it becomes part of the patina, and is less of an issue on glass/stone table surface, for example. It’s differences in how we prioritize efficiency, appearance, order.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:46 PM
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More like some women are terribly inefficient at home chores. Some women will waste time on unnecessary things like doilies and coasters, then complain that they have too much chores. And some men will avoid home chores for so long that the garbage starts to stink but they imagine the home is all clean. Both genders have most people terrible at home chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:02 PM
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What an erasure of fathers!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/26 06:02 AM
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Yes this! Because some women are extremely sensitive about their appearance and find it hard to take any take about it. But unfortunately some women also project this and blame society for pressuring them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:38 PM
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This 100% 👆
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:36 PM
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I think there is truth here but the “feeling judged” seems to be an internal drive to monitor own appearance. Not because of anyone else’s pressure. Some women externalize it and believe that others pressure them about appearance. But objectively, it’s some women’s own stress about their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:35 PM
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Such a balanced and objective view! 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:32 PM
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Oh this take is sexist, “men are incapable of doing this” /s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:28 PM
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No. Just because feminism has major institutional power and embedded in world governments and in institutes, doesn’t mean everything a feminist scholar says becomes magically true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:57 PM
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So you want to attack men by harming women close to them? Why target women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:55 PM
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“Stronger” is dog whistle for man. Ultimately the complaint is that the catcaller is male. It’s a form of misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:54 PM
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No. The equivalent is a man being catcalled by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:52 PM
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Huh? Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:50 PM
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They aren’t “sides” in a battle. These are merely men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:48 PM
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No, if you have this sexist attitude, then no, you don’t need to “help”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:48 PM
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Feminists? They have tried to smear the names of men’s rights activists. There have also tried to smear fathers’ rights activists. These are not fringe feminists. Most mainstream feminist organizations in the USA have a strong campaign against men’s rights activists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:47 PM
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Are you saying that Middle class is defined by inability to marry? No
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:18 PM
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Less than 1 hour worth difference per week in these statistics, and you call an entire gender douchebags? Wow that hour must be so important to you. Or, realistically, shows misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:51 AM
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You sneakily left out job work time. Why? Because for married men and women in the USA, the total work hours a week, including paid job work, chores, child care - the grand total is not different by gender. It’s the same for men and women. The reality is that most men and women work hard for themselves and their families. Stop your sexist (and fake) blanket statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:35 AM
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No, you misunderstand. The UNWomen gender equality index does include lifespan but sneakily so that only when women’s lifespan decreases it counts as inequality but if men’s lifespan decreases, then it doesn’t count as inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:52 AM
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Yet men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:47 AM
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Blatant sexism. Just assuming that men don’t parent. Pathetic. Just because women spend more time doing chores doesn’t mean it was necessary. Men are more efficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:47 AM
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“Emotional labor” is a made-up grievance you need to pretend that only women feel responsibility for the household and that the man doesn’t. A way to smear fathers. Not buying that misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:43 AM
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If wage belongs on a dubious “equality index” then lifespan too belongs there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:52 AM
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No, my comment is about procreation
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/26 04:49 AM
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🤦 Did you read the last part of what you quoted?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 10:50 PM
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Meaning that human intuition to perceive women as vulnerable and men as powerful - is too strong a force. It’s also instant intuition. You can’t defeat it using slow and boring things like logic or proof.
/r/MensRights03/08/26 10:21 PM
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Bah, you could have just looked it up on Wikipedia instead of ranting. There’s no scientific support for Standpoint Epistemology outside of a group of feminist scholars. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standpoint\_theory?#Criticisms
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 10:16 PM
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No, it’s important to call out techniques used by scholars that are biased and designed to produce false outcomes. We rightly expect rigor from scholars, not partisanship. I’m not asking you to replace anything. I flagged that some scholarly feminist papers use misleading techniques like Standpoint Epistemology to create false conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:56 PM
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Yes, but there’s more to it. The survey ad was advertised as a way for the responder (man) to “answer back” to women in their past. This de-selects normal men and selects survey respondents who have malice against women. One can only assume that this was an attempt by the authors to generate a more negative outcome.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 09:52 PM
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100% this! People conveniently denying that part of men’s role in human procreation is sex-seeking behavior.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 09:49 PM
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Not if you look at it objectively. But if you trivialize men’s disadvantages like in your comment, then yes, lifespan is 100% equal between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:42 PM
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Haha, no ignoring things that are harder to analyze - it’s not objective. It’s just half-assed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:21 PM
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No, I explained why it’s anti-science. I quoted that again to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:20 PM
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No > No, feminism is a forced department at many institutions. It often uses terribly anti-science frameworks like Standpoint Epistemology to flood journals with female chauvinist papers. It’s a nightmare for objectivity but it’s great for oppression of men. > Standpoint Epistemology says “Science is true only if a women says it and we don’t trust if a man says it; plus we don’t need any proof as long as any woman says it; but not if it disagrees with the author” > It’s anti-science because it d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:58 PM
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🤝
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:56 PM
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No, you believe that people live in a patriarchy by definition. That seems trivially wrong, unless you define patriarchy in some dumbass way. That’s why I asked for your definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:55 PM
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No! Why do you think that men’s low lifespan is disconnected from men predominantly fighting in war, and being the bulk of the homeless?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:53 PM
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No, this is objectively incorrect. For example, in India last year, most mainstream feminist organizations blocked legislation that would have protected men from forced sex by women. An example in USA - policies to suspect men in domestic violence cases are pushed by most feminist organizations. This results in for example Duluth model and NOMAS coaching for domestic violence first responders. Mostly these amount to coaching the police that “the man did it”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:52 PM
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No, I went back and read your comments. Seems you’re just evading the problem of Standpoint Epistemology.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:49 PM
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Huh? “by definition”? What is that definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:46 PM
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Yes 100% It’s so frustrating how much feminist scholarship uses deceptive tactics like Motte and Bailey. Feminism is a noble activism in itself, I’m forever puzzled why feminist scholars are compelled to such deceptive tactics to make their case. They’d much better success being direct rather than using “weasel” terms like “oppression”, “patriarchy” etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:30 PM
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Noticing that you never actually addressed the problem with Standpoint Epistemology and started going all ad hominem attack? Is that it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:24 PM
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You do want to think about a problem in the rational realm, not start lashing out emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:15 PM
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No. Today men can go to jail if a woman gets very scared of the appearance of a man. That’s why most men shave their beard, to erase their masculine appearance and look less threatening.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:14 PM
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Wow, now that’s first class misandry to claim men don’t enjoy time with their kids. If money is your objective, then state that, no need to claim that’s everyone’s sole objective regardless of family.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:09 PM
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Gotcha. I mis-spoke about UNWomen. They don’t do this cheating about oppression. They use this cheating in the UN women “Gender Equality” index. They hide lifespan to make it like women have less gender equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:07 PM
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Standpoint Epistemology says “Science is true only if a women says it and we don’t trust if a man says it; plus we don’t need any proof as long as any woman says it; but not if it disagrees with the author” It’s anti-science because it dismisses proof and evidence and says “just believe any woman who agrees with the paper’s author”. It’s a desperate way to get false claims published, but of course only the radicalized people believe such papers. Standpoint Epistemology is like the anti-vax equiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:01 PM
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I never said it isn’t scary. That’s why I’m talking about fear. Read my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:57 PM
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Using your framework, women feeling unsafe isn’t oppression, it’s just men having larger body size.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:56 PM
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Not enough to send innocent people to jail, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:54 PM
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I just told you - Standpoint Epistemology.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:27 PM
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No, feminism is a forced department at many institutions. It often uses terribly anti-science frameworks like Standpoint Epistemology to flood journals with female chauvinist papers. It’s a nightmare for objectivity but it’s great for oppression of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:20 PM
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Having better legal protection is an advantage for women in usa, but that’s mainly in domestic violence cases or sexual assault cases. The dv protocol (suspect men) is an oppression of men. Women have a major disadvantage that many states recently made abortion illegal. Imho this is an oppression of mothers in those states. In balance, I call modern usa roughly gender neutral legally. The privilege of women is in social discourse, since women are perceived as vulnerable and men as powerful, due …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:17 PM
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No, this is about feminist scholarly papers. Nice try distracting the conversation into other academic departments.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:09 PM
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Wait, abortion law change was recent. Are you saying that prior to the overturn of roeWade, there was no oppression of women in USA? I tend to agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:06 PM
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No, fear is an internal reaction. Overt fear is an internal problem. No matter how you change the world, you can’t cure overt fear that way. Please think about it objectively, for a minute forget male/female politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:04 PM
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Now you sneakily shifted the premise and you’re talking about stalking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:03 PM
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No, home makers share the money earned by husband. And when we compare the income of working men vs working women, the hourly rate is exactly the same. On average these working women work fewer hours, prefer structured and less risky jobs, this is what results in lower average. But it’s not discrimination and it’s not a social problem either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:57 PM
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No, that’s 100% wrong. The man is worse off in that same divorce because the woman had much more bonding time with kids and the better family relationship. Meanwhile the man sacrificed family time by working long hours, only to have her take them away from him. One of the sneaky tricks of structural feminism is to make the reader believe that money is more important than the life that it sustains. No, that’s putting the cart before the horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:54 PM
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I don’t have experience with sociology papers, so I can’t tell. Feminist department papers are remarkably sloppy and jingoistic, I know because I perused a few of them over the past two years.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:45 PM
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No you confusing present vs past doesn’t help, it just confused you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:43 PM
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No, this is a fallacy. Most married households share their finances. Just because the wife is a home maker and husband works doesn’t mean the wife has no money; typically both spend freely from the family money pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:40 PM
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IIUC, your position is that modern USA has gender parity and neither men nor women are oppressed - is that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:38 PM
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No, this is completely fabricated if we’re talking about 2020s USA. No patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:37 PM
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If you have no idea, then why take a position?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:35 PM
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You’re already here. When you’re privileged, you don’t realize your privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:34 PM
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BS. If you google, you find fake made-up claims made by feminist scholars desperately trying to keep their feminism grants by “proving” unending oppression of women in 2020s USA. You really need to drink the kool aid to believe some of the stretches of logic required to arrive at these conclusions of oppression. For example the UN Women organization hides women’s lifespan data, to avoid admitting that women are more privileged in modern USA and western countries. Again, this is because of the pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:32 PM
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But what do you expect when an entire gender is blamed for the way the other gender feels?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:26 PM
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This! 👆 This hits the nail on the head. Infantilized women tend to think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:25 PM
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No. Overt fear is an internal issue. Overt danger is a real world issue. You’re taking an overt fear problem and insisting that the world has to change sufficiently to avoid your over reaction. Your fallacy is that you’re conflating your internal reaction with objective risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:24 PM
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No, that’s sneaky. Talk about the present day world. Don’t try to distract the topic by talking about cherry picked historic periods that work for your bizarre narrative. Weird attempt to side track the conversation into history.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:22 PM
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Just because you feel intense fear doesn’t mean you’re at more risk than men. You’re not, statistically. But yes, women experience much more fear than men, in the exact same danger. It’s an overt fear problem, not an overt danger problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:20 PM
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If you listen to the people getting cat called, then also listen to the people who are cat calling. Try to understand first.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:19 PM
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Wait, we’re calling feminist academia slop papers “research” now?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:17 PM
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Misogynist approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:15 PM
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Unfortunately this is the right approach for human society. Women tend to overly feel social anxiety and men tend to feel social anxiety too less. So if you start assuming female anxiety is realistic then you end up with misandry. Society does recognize that female social reactions are overt, but feminism fights to legitimatize every overt fear and paranoia that any woman has.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:15 PM
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You’re already here. Privileged people like you never realize their privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:11 PM
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Excellent reference post listing examples of feminist Mott-and-Bailey deceptions. Now we can link to this post to readily provide examples of feminist deception.
/r/MensRights02/08/26 05:48 PM
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Yes, it’s a gaslighting bit and it’s used to shame men.
/r/MensRights01/08/26 12:45 AM
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And in this worldview, is it like men are not manipulated? Women don’t try to manipulate men? You feel it’s all one sided manipulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:41 PM
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This comment infantilizes women as “easy to manipulate” and lionizes men as “expert manipulators”. You also imply that women are not capable of manipulating men and/or men are too smart to get manipulated. Weird (paranoid & xenophobic?) worldview described in this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:08 PM
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Pointlessly gendered. Why does consent apply only to women according to you, OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:26 AM
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Is it because you’re imagining a woman who can’t speak? Why are you infantilizing women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:25 AM
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Is she lying about consent in your confusing scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:24 AM
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This is dumbass. So if my wife invites me to sex in the evening, and I say no. Then she invites me to sex again at night. Now I say yes. According to you, she raped me 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:22 AM
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Such a bizarre take infantilizing women. This is so disrespectful of women’s agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:17 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:18 PM
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That’s a good point too. The mal-agency gender bias has been present for all human history. Feminism merely uses this pre existing human framework.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/26 03:51 PM
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You hit the nail on the head. Most of the social malaise against men is being generated by these feminist scholars making smarmy misandrist scholarly papers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/26 03:50 PM
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“Gender studies” department is a dog whistle for “Feminist studies” department. The departments are called gender neutrally “Gender studies”, but the charter of the departments enforce the focus must be only on women. The whole domain of feminism is rife with sneaky deceptions like this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/26 03:48 PM
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There is a general apathy towards male victims of sex related problems. People shrug it off consistently. Hence this is an area requiring social reform.
/r/MensRights30/07/26 03:27 PM
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It’s natural because it’s human intuition to perceive women as vulnerable and men as powerful.
/r/MensRights29/07/26 09:05 PM
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Classic offloading of blame from women to men. This is called mal-agency gender bias and it’s human nature. Intuitively we see women as vulnerable and men as powerful. Hence we tend to attribute everything to men, “they did everything”. But with diligent thought, it’s possible to overcome this bias.
/r/MensRights29/07/26 07:49 PM
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Sexual coercion? No, we’re talking about not having sex. No sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:56 PM
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Thanks for fixing that analogy. It was so bizarrely about starvation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:31 PM
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This is a good narrative from the woman’s perspective. But is missing the man’s perspective of the same experience. And I read about the woman’s perspective but I struggle to truly understand and empathize. Maybe because my own perspective clouds this empathy process. My observation is that men and women seem to experience sex differently, and in such gender debates, talk past each other. I.e. all of us are struggle to internalize and empathize with both gender perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:29 PM
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Is it not possible to empathize that not having sex is terrible for some other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:25 PM
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Incorrect. I know for example that in the domain of teachers, men are discouraged and disparaged from becoming teachers, by existing teachers (mostly women). It’s called misandry, not misogyny 🤦
/r/MensRights29/07/26 01:38 PM
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No, the comment does cover that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:11 PM
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That’s a good way to frame the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:07 PM
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The post never mentioned pestering. Seems the example evolves as suits the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:05 PM
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This is a vague hypothetical example. This could happen in a number of scenarios, some coercive on man’s side, some coercive on woman’s side, and some non coercive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:03 PM
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This hits the nail on head. This post infantilizes women, it’s a paternalistic view - “police the suspicious men, are they treating poor women right?” But this is just about the couple talking about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:01 PM
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But that’s a terrible way to view kids. This is a common fallacy where people believe that a child and an adult are different species and suddenly the child moults at 18. No, don’t work that way. Some kids have more responsibility and world-understanding in their teens than another will ever have even as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:58 PM
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Seems you imagine that every woman is that specific woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:54 PM
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It’s not a simple question. It’s too vague to evaluate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:50 PM
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No, it means your premise is incorrect. The OP’s example is so unrealistic and vague that it’s impossible to evaluate duress or consent from this poor example.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:12 PM
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This 100% some people struggle to differentiate between a friendship vs a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:10 PM
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Which woman are you channeling here?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:08 PM
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Her mood changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:07 PM
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Huh? No. Cleaning the room (against one’s will) is a violation of bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:06 PM
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Are you assuming that women feel like initiating sex as much as men? If so, this could be age bias. Typically in twenties, women initiate sex copiously, but the frequency tends to reduce into the forties. Often in older couples, the husband attempts to initiate sex and a subset of those attempts are accepted by the wife. Both prefer to keep it this way and this is the dynamic that works for them. It tends to develop into a request + approve/reject dynamic in a bunch of couples. Of course this is…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:05 PM
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Those are two separate things and can co exist, it’s not either-or. Being unconditionally loved, and being respected for one’s efforts. In a relationship, it’s fulfilling to have both.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:41 AM
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100% illegal ruling by the so called “discrimination hotline”. Seems like they’re good at discriminating against men.
/r/MensRights25/07/26 10:31 PM
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And why would those people be intimidated?
/r/MensRights25/07/26 10:26 PM
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Dude, yes obviously only the AI-owning company can be held accountable. That’s the meaning of “Gemini is accountable”. But maybe like you say, it’s more correct to say “Google Inc is accountable”.
/r/MensRights25/07/26 08:02 PM
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Of course. It’s blatant misandry and female chauvinism. The Singapore politicians are so afraid of female voters’ drawback that they ignore harm to males. They know that most men aren’t aware of the misandry.
/r/MensRights25/07/26 07:59 PM
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Women are more empathetic, to themselves. Not to others.
/r/MensRights25/07/26 07:57 PM
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Yes this 100%
/r/MensRights25/07/26 07:56 PM
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And fyi, AI also used to produce misogynistic responses in early 2020s. The media backlash from feminists was earth shattering. Around 2022, all AI companies made women a protected group and now AI does a post filter that softens the response to be extra gentle with any woman. But male backlash never happened so men never got added to the AI “protected groups” list, just women, black people, etc.
/r/MensRights25/07/26 07:55 PM
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Kinda but the company owning the ai is accountable.
/r/MensRights25/07/26 07:53 PM
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No, the AI engine acts and talks like an expert human. It can’t suddenly hide behind “I’m just an algorithm” excuse.
/r/MensRights25/07/26 07:53 PM
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Thanks for raising awareness about this misandrist music band.
/r/MensRights25/07/26 07:09 PM
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What a sexist. And Netherlands having this misandrist “discrimination hotline”? That’s worse than not having a hotline at all.
/r/MensRights25/07/26 06:40 PM
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This is a common misconception. Women are more vulnerable statistically but this is not because of statistically smaller physical frame. It’s because of statistically lower risk taking and greater fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:22 PM
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100% I read excerpts from Bell Hooks and the author comes across as a committed psychiatry patient, not the person you want to get social advice from.
/r/MensRights25/07/26 05:44 PM
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Is there no authoritative source link for “mal-agency gender bias”? Like a Wikipedia article? I’m struggling to whip out a link for people unfamiliar with “mal-agency gender bias”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 05:28 PM
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In India, every mainstream feminist organization has been campaigning for years against legal protection to protect men from sexual assault by women. Recently, the feminist orgs successfully blocked the passing of gender neutral sexual assault law in India. In general Indian feminists have been opposing gender neutral laws, they have put up a strong fight and have achieved significant political mind share, they tend to be strongly misandrist in their activism.
/r/MensRights25/07/26 12:15 AM
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Pointlessly gendered. If one isn’t attracted to them, then they’re invisible regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:08 AM
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OP, did you also examine how female students respond to authority from men vs women? Regarding the male students, it seems related to growing up in a primarily female-authority environment (school)?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:36 PM
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Nothing so far, because some feminist scholars proactively smeared men’s rights activism as a form of misogyny.
/r/MensRights22/07/26 05:24 AM
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In South Asia, there is systemic misogyny but not in law. Legally women are well off and law favors women at the cost of punishing men. But the family culture in many families (maybe as high as 50% of families) is to prefer boys over girls and give them more resources and education than girls. But the state of men is bad in the sense that men are presumed guilty in any public conflict. The law does not provide men with protection against sexual assault. It’s legal misandry. Any gender conflict i…
/r/MensRights21/07/26 08:29 PM
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It’s confusing why you’re apparently looking for intimacy in a one night stand? What do you mean when you say you’re looking for “casual sex with a man”?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:34 PM
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Yes I’m curious what the actual sentence was for recent men convicts of sexual assault vs women convicts of sexual assault?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 07:30 AM
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Yes I’m curious what the actual sentence was for recent men convicts of sexual assault vs women convicts of sexual assault?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 07:29 AM
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100% patriarchy theory is a scam
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:58 PM
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Oh for sure, Singapore seems the land of legal misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:52 PM
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That’s a broken toilet. Or imaginary cooties. Only you would know which.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:52 PM
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Flush
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:20 PM
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Yeah, I’m flip flopping about ending the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:19 PM
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Dry food, it depends on the place. In a humid beach area, there’s tons of ants coming after even uncooked rice, so it needs quick clean up. I used to live in such a place, and we had to clean up dry waste as well, real fast. In the cold dry place where I live now, nothing happens to uncooked rice for days.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:19 PM
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Ignoring my questions? What is making it foul?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:05 PM
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If you want, you can ask about specific trash items, and I can tell you whether they are dry trash vs wet trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:04 PM
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Hmm, sorry I’ll stop responding. I gave the example of cluttered books. But you’re avoiding looking at a dictionary or responding about the example of cluttered books on a desk. It doesn’t seem good faith in your part to ignore these main arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:04 PM
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No, just flush after you poop. That’s enough. We do need to clean the toilet regularly. But no need to do it after every single use. At my place, I clean the toilet whenever it looks less pristine. About once in two weeks. But I’m puzzled by your experience. Do you see visual poop every time after you poop in the toilet AND flush? If so, you do need to clean the toilet. But that doesn’t happen with a normal toilet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:01 PM
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Why is semantics unimportant? That’s the crucial part.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:56 PM
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No, did you pre suppose universal male laziness? Why? Why is tidiness required for hygiene in your perspective? Let’s take the example of cluttered books on a desk?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:55 PM
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Maybe just fix the toilet?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:53 PM
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It’s not. Tidiness and hygiene are different. The first is about visual clutter, and the second is a health risk. It’s not about being nice, it’s about honestly communicating and listening to the other person, and both being willing to meet in the middle in case of disagreement. It’s bi directional, not just something a man has to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:52 PM
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Not wet
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:50 PM
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It’s a very clear difference between hygiene vs tidiness. Knowing the difference is essential for home chores. Please don’t take it personally but it’s valuable to know the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:49 PM
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Well, who wants to do unnecessary daily tasks “just because”? If it’s unnecessary, don’t do it! At my house, my wife and I decide that we vacuum the kitchen every single time anyone cooks. Whoever cooks needs to immediately clean up the kitchen and leave it pristine. And we’re both on top of dishes. We vacuum the whole house every week and we mop the house every month. It works for the both of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:43 PM
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No, it’s about daily effort. It’s valuable to minimize daily effort and not get carried away and add tons of unnecessary tasks to your daily routine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:40 PM
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Yes dry trash in the bin will keep. No hurry. Do you feel otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:39 PM
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No. Is it a toilet that has lost its sheen and gets poop stick every time you poop? Getting poop stuck every single time doesn’t happen with a normal functional toilet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:34 PM
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No. Cluttered books on desk is untidy. Not unhygienic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:32 PM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:29 PM
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I can imagine that yes. But there are three options like I outlined. One of them is that he bends, like you said. But there are also options where you bend, or both meet in the middle. Is there a safe space where the couple can talk freely about the options without getting angry or snapping at the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:13 PM
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No one suggested to split a task from its cleanup. I’m so confused. You have good division of labor or you don’t? Do you have a question or a point to make? If so, what’s the point that you’re making?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:53 PM
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Yes 100% Warm humid weather accelerates the rot from days to hours. But yes, even in cold weather, wet trash will rot in a day or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:43 PM
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Gotcha, you’re not the original commenter but IIUC, you prefer to do the task yourself. IMHO it’s a perfectly legitimate way to collaborate between partners. Why? Because it’s self-determined. As a man there are some tasks I just prefer to do myself because it means more to me, like for example choosing the deck material for replacement. It matters way much more to me what the material is; for my wife, it’s just fix it any way. So I do such tasks and don’t expect my wife to. I can empathize.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:34 PM
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Fair enough, it’s ok to choose to do the chores yourself. But be happy about your decision. But if you’re not happy with your decision, then discuss with your husband instead. Either convince him or, agree with his lateness or land in the middle, maybe dry in case it’s still wet by morning? But why not let the wood rot so your husband can learn a lesson? Yes it’s short term money loss, but isn’t this what you want long term?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:33 PM
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Maybe fix that so it doesn’t splash. Seems like the problem is a bad draining board?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:42 PM
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Why is the draining board close enough to get dirty water on it? Can’t you move it a couple feet?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:36 PM
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Oh pots? If you use them for pan-frying then a thin layer of food residue is a good seasoning for the pot. Scrubbing with soap will usually destroy the seasoning and make it hard to cook. Depends on how much residue you’re leaving behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:17 PM
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Don’t do it, still leave him to it. Discuss the results together. You might have to reduce your standard, or he might need to increase his.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:10 PM
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That I agree with, there is a level beyond which it’s functionally a daily problem (eg hoarding).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:04 PM
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No, you’re making the debate into a farce. Let’s stick to realistic scenarios and not distract with extreme situations like unhygienic man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:02 PM
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It’s usually other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:00 PM
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Uh no. Today many farming families in the usa have shoes on at home, perhaps some rural families too. But in urban areas, universally people remove shoes at the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:59 PM
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Right, assign the cleaning to the man, and just wait. Probably it’ll go very badly initially, but this is how he’ll learn to do it himself. Just leave him to his task no matter how long it takes. This will need a lot of patience from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:56 PM
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You scrub the toilet every time you poop? Isn’t that overkill?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:54 PM
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This is unfair and incorrect. The difference is tidiness standard. Most men and most women are hygienic, that’s not the broad issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:53 PM
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Unfortunately this is a distraction. Forget about hygiene and focus on tidiness instead. Most men aren’t unhygienic relative to women. Hygiene is about the same. The difference is in tidiness. Most men have a lower standard of tidiness compared to women. Let’s focus on tidiness instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:51 PM
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Huh? Why is cleaning less draining than sex? Iiuc both are forced on the spouse in this example. Seems both would be annoying if forced.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:49 PM
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Untidy vs dirty? Dirty, I agree; I’m a man. I can’t stand dirtiness. Untidiness? I don’t mind personally but I can imagine that it’s a deal breaker for some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:48 PM
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I personally prefer to meet in the middle, instead of lowest standard. Low and high libido? Couple talk about it and decide where you want to land as a couple. In my experience with my wife, it wasn’t like low libido, high libido, but different sexual preferences between my wife and I. I am always horny and I used to act sexual constantly, like I’d feel her bum any chance I get. But I learnt that for her, sexuality is compartmentalized. She is all into sex when we’re having sex, but other times …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:44 PM
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Maybe leave the crumbs without cleaning, and count the number of days for vermin to infest. Then you have a proven data point how frequently crumbs need to be cleaned. My personal experience is that wet trash needs to be cleaned same day. No excuses. Especially in a warm climate. But dry trash can wait for weeks without causing infestation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:30 PM
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Well the car engine will die even the first time you drive it with the wrong fuel. This is not a good analogy. Untidiness is not as immediately destructive, unlike wrong fuel. Usually untidy dry can wait for days to be cleaned, unless there is wet trash involved, that goes bad overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:26 PM
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Thanks for taking time to share a woman’s perspective, I appreciate it and it helps to bridge the gender gap. Sharing my own male perspective: This is classic high standards vs low or no standards. Assign the cleaning to him. Let him maintain it his way. If he wants to keep paying for new filters, so be it. But don’t take up the task yourself and complain that you have to do everything. Instead, let him fail, that’s his journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:24 PM
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This is a common pattern I see in the couples around me. Women get easily stressed about untidiness, compared to men. The woman feels it’s basic tidying, but the man feels it’s too frequent. This is why the amount of domestic chores increases for both man and woman once they marry. Both did fewer chores when single. Another angle is gatekeeping by some wives. When a husband tries to cook, some wives will put him down and shame him about the taste, call him sloppy/messy. They will discourage him …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:21 PM
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Wow, yes that attitude seems a basic confusion between “good looking” vs “nice”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:54 PM
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Wow, ok. It doesn’t happen in my family & friends circle. If a person rejects a suitor, others don’t even know about the suitor, they don’t argue in his favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:46 PM
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And to your point about women being insecure about looks - won’t that same logic apply to men being insecure about their income?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:12 PM
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Can you please be specific who told you all these things critical of your sexual criteria e.g. “he might be nice”? That seems the crux of your concern. Feels like a case of externalizing some specific private conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:11 PM
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😂 I’m genuinely curious what your beliefs are? That would be so much more authoritative, than you trying to guess the belief of other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:26 PM
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I find it the opposite. My wife tells me all the time she finds this actor hot. I avoid talking about other women to her for fear of annoying her. Because men are already notorious as “eager for sex with anyone”, so I’m very wary not to hint at anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:24 PM
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Good point!
/r/MensRights13/07/26 08:23 PM
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It depends on your social standing. If you are able to achieve a high social standing in terms of money, social respect, scholarship and/or physiology, then many women will intuitively cherish you, they won’t push you anymore. But if you’re not there yet, then yes, your mother and your well wishers will want to push you to strive harder and “arrive”. It’s gendered human nature. I’m just observing gender behavior, please don’t kill the messenger 🙏
/r/MensRights13/07/26 07:10 PM
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I was wrong about libido. I stand corrected. I got too argumentative and made an ad hominem slur. You’re right that libido emerges situationally and it’s not strictly a property of an individual. And you’re right that if the spouse doesn’t nurture the other person’s libido it might die and even turn into a sex aversion. That said, I feel that I have some personal perspective about porn use by married men. I’m a married man in my 40s, we have two kids. My wife and I have a stellar sex life, we bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:21 PM
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No it’s your libido. If it’s low, that’s not because other people failed to nurture it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:54 PM
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No, my point is that shallow and deep are some arbitrary value judgements and they vary based on who’s making the judgement. Both men and women are visual, and this is mostly biological and innate. There’s some social / culture element to it, but this is mostly just human nature. Maybe you can share what you consider shallow vs deep? That could frame a more grounded conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:52 PM
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The post doesn’t make sense. Why do you consider a visual person to be shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:36 PM
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Probably the USA has some of the most gender neutral law.
/r/MensRights10/07/26 08:37 PM
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Oh that’s structural feminism theory. According to that theory, women have less money than men, and fewer women are politicians than men. Hence, the theory claims that women are unequal and can never agree to sex as an equal. Hence, according to structural feminism any sex between man and woman is rape. Hence, when they say “systematic rape”, structural feminists are referring to happily married couples.
/r/MensRights10/07/26 06:34 PM
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IMHO it’s biology. Men’s ejaculation is required to conceive. It has evolved to be robust. We don’t understand the role played by women’s orgasm, although there’s a speculative theory that it’s a carry-over from men’s physiology. But regardless of whether women’s orgasm is an independent phenotype or not, it doesn’t have similar evolutionary pressure to be robust.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:15 PM
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I’m confused by the framing. That’s not the only two options. I personally prefer to have sex with my wife about 6 to 7 days a week, which it’s typical for us. It’s our mutual preference. We’ve been married 16 years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:20 PM
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I’m a man. Seems like a healthy thing for them to seek relationship with the demographic that they like. Good. But it’s asinine of the “therapist” to connect it causally to this extinct (2020s USA) “patriarchy theory”.
/r/MensRights08/07/26 07:17 PM
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Sorry, since the OP is debating in bad faith, I’m having to stop commenting further. I say that because they don’t respond to questions and rejecting important arguments with distractions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:06 PM
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It’s obvious that parents love their children because they are their children. No one thinks that others will love them the same way. This is not specific to boys or girls, it applies to both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:56 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:53 PM
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Het people want het sex, gay people want gay sex, and bi people still have specific desires. People who are sexually aroused by simply anyone? Very rare in men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:22 PM
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See: > for the same infraction, boys are punished much more than girls Emphasis on “same infraction”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:12 PM
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The premise that boys are coddled by their moms - is a favorite trope of certain girlfriends. There isn’t much reality to boys being coddled. In Singapore for example, boys are caned in school and girls aren’t. In the USA, for the same infraction, boys are punished much more severely than girls. Tl;dr the premise is incorrect, so the long-winded explanation isn’t relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:47 PM
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In my childhood, those science magazines were just gender neutral. Is there a boy labeled one?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:57 PM
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What’s an example of a “boy’s magazine”? Asking to learn since I’m not familiar.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:27 PM
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Not quite. Most men can get sexually excited by looking at an unknown woman “when the conditions are right”. But most don’t lust after those specific women. It’s an innate trigger, part of male sexuality. Remember that the vast majority of humans in all known history were monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:22 PM
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My impression is that since around 2020, there’s been an explosion of misandrist writing in the media. And there’s been an explosion of anti male policy and law. For example, the Wikipedia pages on Misandry and Men’s Rights have remained vandalized for the past 3 years, it still says that misandry is fake news, and men’s rights activists are just anti female, not genuine activists. In other words, institutional support for misandry, it seems that people feel it’s a legitimate way to punch up. Fo…
/r/MensRights07/07/26 11:10 PM
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Incel just means a virgin who doesn’t want to be a virgin. Nasty people use “incel” as a slur for men, and “slut” as a slur for women. Let’s not use such slurs.
/r/MensRights07/07/26 07:22 PM
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It’s been roughly once in ten years that I’ve cried. I’m a married man in my 40s, we have two kids. Except, that’s in real life. I also cry every single time I see a movie and there’s a sad scene. I cried at Zootopia, for example.
/r/MensRights06/07/26 03:45 AM
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Some women do use sports grounds. Why is it a waste just because more men use it? Is your idea that a public works must be created only if both genders use it at an exactly equal rate? Then why not you protest against women’s homeless shelters?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:48 AM
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Why not provide homeless shelters for men? Seems because of apathy towards homeless men. Were you going to explain your view why, or are you wondering why?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:40 AM
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This is not a balanced view, it seems to come from a feeling of unthinking victimhood. Complaining that governments pay for playgrounds but men play more - is a cheap jealousy against men. The fact is that anyone is allowed to use the playground, man or woman. There are worse things. For example, in the USA, 99% of homeless shelters are for women, men are not allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:56 PM
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Not quite. This seems a perception bias. It seems you have deep empathy for men, so you are able to see the nuances and how varied the situation is. But for women, you might be viewing them as a uniform other group, not knowing much about them. In reality, there is huge difference in women’s situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:51 PM
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Yes the post 100% smells of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 04:06 AM
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I’m confused by this post. Pair bonding has to be mutual. Why does the post talk about “one sided pair bonding”? That makes this post nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:59 AM
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No that seems your imagination? I said that that the nature of male vs female objectification is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:52 AM
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This! (This is the reality for most men. I feel that statistical male physiological size and strength is baked into human gender perception and into sexuality of either gender. But despite that reality, physiological superiority does not confer a higher place in the social hierarchy)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 06:16 PM
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My guess? Maybe many such people buy into the “all women are victims and all men are selfish kings” mental model (aka patriarchy theory of structural feminism). Then they feel that they need to “reform” men from the inside. One common theme is that they are angry and often make vague, emotional posts and comments, but avoid discussing the specifics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:15 PM
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Yes, misandry is fun and giggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:12 PM
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I’d say that some men and some women suffer from bad choices or just bad luck. Sometimes it’s hard to suss these things out early or some people may not be good at reading others. But I get the sense that most people tend to choose fine, and their choice of life partner does work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:36 PM
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I think the OP is talking about the criteria to select a life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:34 PM
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Hmm, IIUC, women’s intuitive choice tends often to prioritize the man’s height, v-shaped torso, deeper voice, social status, confidence. All of these “selectors” do seem legit to me? What’s the bad design here?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:32 PM
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Let me understand the thesis of this post. Are you saying that women try to choose the best man available to them, but sometimes they mistakenly choose someone who’s not so great?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:26 PM
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No, it’s not. It’s just a value-neutral label. I’m a cis man.
/r/MensRights29/06/26 10:05 PM
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That’s dismissive of women. Just accept that the women decided to vote what’s right for themselves. Let’s not infantilize women by claiming they voted against their interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:03 PM
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The thing is that modern tech has dramatically reduced the time and effort required for mandatory domestic chores. And commute. This has freed up time for men and even more so, women. This in turn enabled both spouses to go to work. But the premise of the post isn’t right. Feminism is activism to improve the lives of women. Always has been that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:00 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:17 AM
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Nice trolling skills though. Can really milk people for comments 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:54 AM
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No, that’s not it. I’m responding to why some people bizarrely expect feminism to address anti-male discrimination. They have this bizarre expectation because they believed the “marketing” definition that feminism means gender equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:40 AM
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A dedicated feminist does protest for some feminist actions and also protest against some feminist actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:03 AM
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Right but you claimed that none of “these guys” would protest for women. Like I said, significant % of men are part of feminist protests. And a significant % of women were in anti-feminist protests when they used to be a thing decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:58 AM
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Completely incorrect. Feminists are men and women both. A significant % of men are feminist. There’s a huge percentage of women who are anti feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:46 AM
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Oh gotcha. I’m just guessing, but I think the context might be that many people like to say that feminism is defined as gender equality, instead of saying that it’s activism to improve the lives of women. The latter is a worthy cause, whereas the former is a weasel definition. So when people hear the “equality” definition, then they start imagining that feminism also campaigns for areas where men are discriminated against. Then they feel disappointed when they realize this is not on the priority…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:43 AM
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You say you’re a man. What’s with “if men are so anti conscription”? Which men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:18 AM
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Lol ironic given how this comment evades the question of “do you think there is one?”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:13 AM
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I’m a feminist. I’m also a men’s rights activist. In real life, no one else in my friend circle calls themselves a feminist or an mra. There are so many noble feminists who work to improve women’s lives without putting down men, I am such a feminist. The gendered legal/policy hijinx of certain misandrist feminists - they haven’t hurt me so far. So, I haven’t been harmed. It’s only a latent subsurface (irrational) fear in me. But them pushing gendered policy or law now in the 2020s makes me feel …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:06 AM
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Feminism as a concept is activism to improve the life of women. By definition it’s a noble cause. Every kind human should be a feminist and a men’s rights activist, both. Why wouldn’t we work to improve the lives of men and women? I see that most men and most women are kind to the opposite gender. But there’s also feminism as a label. It can be adopted by anyone who wants to label themselves a feminist. In the USA for example, feminist organizations train domestic violence first responders to su…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:51 AM
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I wouldn’t write off objectification as a well understood phenomenon just yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:10 AM
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I posit that these two phenomena are very overlapping. But need to avoid getting into the rabbit hole of object vs human. I generalize “objectification” as reducing a person to a single aspect rather than multi dimensional. Aspect, not object. It’s ok to come up with new terminology when we try to improve upon a rough mental model to make it more true to life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:28 PM
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I don’t think the premise of the OP is right. In general men don’t look as neotenous (childlike) as a woman. And both men and women don’t look as neotenous as a child. Neoteny is the main driver for inter-human empathy and this is what distinguishes us from other apes. So the level of empathy that a person evokes is crudely in this order, statistically: Child (most empathy) > woman > man (least empathy) So it’s less about the woman refusing to give empathy, and more about the man’s appearance no…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:36 PM
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No, that premise isn’t right. Objectification (in my view) is a way to focus on a specific aspect of a person. It’s an evolutionary shortcut for animals and humans to make quick assessments of people. Whereas “seeing a person as a person” is a multi faceted view of that person, it only emerges during slower long-term thought, it’s not possible in the moment to take such holistic views of people. So when we are task focused, then we tend to use objectification. For example, when my wife’s enjoyin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:25 PM
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No, I’m saying that objectification itself is value-neutral, i.e. it’s not beneficial or harmful, it’s just a step involved in normal human perception of other people. But the actions after objectification could be good for the person or bad for the person. My point is: good or bad depends on how you act after objectifying. Just mentally objectifying people doesn’t cause benefit or harm in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:12 PM
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Oh nice framing of this question. In the example of a gold digger, it’s fun for the man to enjoy the objectification of the girl drooling over him (she sees him as a wallet). But once she takes half the money and splits, that’s harm to the man. Here the objectification of a man was value-neutral but her intent was exploitive of the man. I came up with this mental model today of separating objectification as value neutral vs harm/benefit coming from other actions that are proximal to the objectif…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:06 PM
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Yes, but you aren’t money. Money is a separate object and different from your person. Treating this person as the money - that’s objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:49 PM
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It’s true. Objectification is part of how we connect to other humans. Men (and women) love objectification when it’s good and we hate it when it results in problems. The problem with the “objectification is bad/good” mental model is that it’s neither. It’s just an internal process of perception inside people’s minds. What’s good? Good sex where people eagerly objectify themselves and each other - that’s good stuff. What’s bad? Someone harming someone else based on objectification is bad. It’s a …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:47 PM
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So what? Just feel bad. You want women to cover up? No, they can’t keep checking the preference of every joker and trying to dress to accommodate them. It’s not even logically possible because different people might get triggered by different clothes. For human society, we have the right to dress how we please.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:29 PM
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No. Someone doing their own thing is not an attack of any kind. Others have every right to dress the way they want. You can look at them if you want, that’s your fundamental right. But other people don’t need your consent to wear what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:24 PM
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That’s illogical. Looking is a personal freedom. What, you want a woman to wear a bikini but have only men look away but women can look? Well, that could work but only if this is coordinated and agreed ahead of time. There’s nothing intuitive about these very specific expectation of how others should behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:21 PM
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No, that’s oversimplifying to the point of incorrect. It’s useful to understand that fundamentally both genders are objectified. No need for different names. But yes the nature of male vs female objectification are different, so we should study how each plays out. And yes, the consequences are different, like for a man it can be arrest or presumed guilty, for a woman it can be sexual harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:12 PM
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But it’s not a cudgel. Understanding that objectification is universal imho gives a more realistic mental model and could avoid self victimization and mis-assignment of blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:03 PM
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Sorry I’m not trying to disrupt the conversation but I need to own up that as a man I crave to be desired sexually. Being objectified by women for my body and my sexuality, if women can’t resist taking me, it’s a wet dream. But it only works as a dream. If that objectification results in me being kidnapped, raped and killed by a gang of women, then that’s a nightmare for me. The one insight I got is that objectification is not a problem in itself. In fact, it’s probably required for normal sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:49 PM
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Not quite, I think that men’s objectification works differently from women’s objectification. So, often we don’t see it as objectification. For example, larger man => objectified as dangerous. Beard shaved => less dangerous etc. Man with abs or rich => sexually desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:42 PM
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All humans self objectify. It’s our quick mental technique to assess how others perceive us. It’s a valuable strength to navigate society. But yes, statistically women have higher degree of self objectification than men do; of course this is not true at an individual level. Any given man might self objectify much more than any given woman, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:39 PM
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Oh is your advice to prefer saving younger people over older people and ignore the gender?
/r/MensRights27/06/26 07:12 PM
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Yes, the content (website and posts) of UNWomen are consistently anti-male. We can say confidently that they discriminate against men and boys.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 06:37 PM
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I vehemently disagree with excluding men. “Women and children” is still misandrist
/r/MensRights27/06/26 05:02 PM
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Hmm, still seems like this narrative gives full agency and accountability to the John but not to the prostitute. I.e. if someone doesn’t like this type of sex and consent, then they would logically have a beef with both the John and the prostitute. Why is this? Is the assumption here that the prostitution is coerced rather than intentional? Whereas the John is held to do this intentionally?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:50 PM
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🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:44 PM
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But what psyop?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:31 PM
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What psyop? I think this view oversimplifies things. There needs to be some minimum biological basis at least, for social norms to build upon. It can’t be any arbitrary thing becoming a social norm magically. We don’t know for sure but I’d guess that it’s likely to be a mix of some small biological bent being amplified by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:27 PM
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I didn’t understand your concern about the body hair conversation. Yes both genders typically like to make themselves look more neotenous (childlike). Some men shave their beard, some women shave their legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:20 PM
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Something vaguely similar to this did happen in medieval Kerala, where elite men were fewer in number. The elite men were the scholars and the warriors. The warrior caste would constantly have a low male ratio due to high mortality, although it wasn’t as skewed as 80/20, still closer to 50/50 but skewed. Often, the scholar men would just be the lover and impregnator of a woman from a warrior family, but leave child rearing to the woman and her parents, so that she can still have a socially power…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:46 PM
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Usually the word “boundary” refers to a protective role for oneself. For example, a person could have a boundary saying “don’t disturb me when I’m brushing my teeth”. But the example you gave isn’t boundary-setting because you’re not setting a personal protective boundary. Instead you’re instructing your SO to follow a certain rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:08 AM
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Well it depends on where you set the boundary. Some people like to set boundaries and then break them. Some people stick to their boundaries. But if a person does something intentionally and regularly, then I wouldn’t call it boundary breaking at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:06 AM
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Huh? This post is vague and this theory isn’t obviously true. Maybe try giving an example or two?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:04 AM
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Stop using the word “manosphere” in a negative connotation. I say that because the word just means “world of men”. Giving it a negative meaning is a dis on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:02 AM
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Unfortunately it does matter and can have dire consequences. In the USA, NOMAS coaches first responders of domestic violence that you should suspect the person with the larger body. It’s just a dog whistle to arrest the man.
/r/MensRights26/06/26 12:27 AM
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Well put! 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:21 PM
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Not quite. Many of these structural feminists constantly bashing home maker women as brainwashed or traitors. Structural Feminists are taking away this choice, especially feminist scholars. The “Choice Feminism” movement is to free home maker women from these slurs and social condemnation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:19 PM
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What is CA sign in data?
/r/MensRights22/06/26 02:15 PM
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I don’t think it’s possible?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/26 11:05 AM
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That’s not right, gender is orthogonal to working hard or to making fun.
/r/MensRights21/06/26 09:54 PM
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The president elected by a voter base that’s 55% female? Hmm, not quite. FWIW, I find it nasty when someone says “grab ‘em by the pussy”. But this is a democratically elected president, and like I said women have had majority voting power in the USA since 1964. It might be hard to accept what people want but this is how democracy works. Blaming it on patriarchy is facile. With sexual assault, women now have superb protection in USA. In fact, men are now arrested by default even if they were assa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:30 PM
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Hmm, you came up with with “larger system” - what did you mean by that? I assumed you mean patriarchy but I’m not sure now. My views: patriarchy is no longer alive in 2020s USA. Capitalism is doing fine but so is socialism, we’ll need to keep balancing the two as the level of resources and peace changes over the decades. Institutional racism is also dead in 2020s USA. Fear and oppression of trans people is very real today; not universal but there are people in any community who are nasty to tran…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:06 PM
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“Larger systems” is what? There’s no “larger system” anymore in 2020s USA. So yes, now’s the time and place for women to just live in this equal land. The time to make choices freely without compulsion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:51 PM
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Unfortunately you’re confusing between “anything a woman does is activism for choice feminism” (your strawman) versus “choice feminism is activism to support women to do what they want” (reality). Feminism doesn’t mean compel women to do what you want, it means activism to make the environment better for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:32 PM
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That’s not typical gender roles, no one’s stopped making decisions. This view shows either ignorance or gaslighting. Gender roles in a marriage means each person taking leadership in certain areas. Usually based on each person’s strengths and weaknesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:27 PM
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Vague answer. Do you have a specific idea of what should be the goal of feminist activism? Or is it just vague unconsidered complaints?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:24 PM
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Let me guess, you don’t count the father playing with kids as parenting? Saving for the kids isn’t parenting? Studying with kids isn’t parenting? Of course if you count only mothers’ activities, it’ll seem like fathers don’t do much. Weasel techniques.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:21 PM
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That doesn’t sound like the right definition of “choice feminism”. IIUC, Choice Feminism is activism to support the woman’s right to choose her own life decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:17 PM
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But that will suddenly drop the value of women to the species. It would be catastrophic to human gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:13 PM
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I’m a man, and I agree with the premise that feminism is stupid for denying biological difference between the genders. I disagree with the “brutes” word since you seem to apply this as a male distinction. Women too are brutes but not lusting brutes like men, women are cunning brutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:10 PM
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From what I see, there is no patriarchy in 2020s USA. A lot of “patriarchy proofs” trotted out by feminist scholars these days are scams. For example “wage gap” - despite pay being equitable by gender, feminists claim, “why are only women giving birth? That’s pay loss. Patriarchy!” They forget that it’s usually a couple having the baby and they typically pool their finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:02 PM
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That doesn’t sound right to me. Freedom to have self agency is the more fundamental empowerment for a human. Ie, choice is paramount. What is the “straight up advocacy” that you want to promote and you feel it’s worth giving up choice for?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:56 PM
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But in your line of thought, traditional wives will “go away”?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:51 PM
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No, that’s not the only possibility. I posit that neither men nor women are marginalized in 2020s USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:36 PM
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No, the effect seems intrinsic and part of human gendered phenotypes. Women exhibit greater level of neoteny compared to men. Humans when they see a man, attribute excess agency to him compared to reality. And humans when they see a woman, attribute lesser agency to her compared to reality. This creates the illusion that men are dominant and women are suppressed, even in a gender equal country like 2020s USA. (This illusion is probably what sustains the husk of the feminist operation still chugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:34 PM
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u/-Shes-A-Carnival was very clear. She said that logically, equality refers to equality of inputs, things like law. This is an established result in social logic. Trying to use the word “equality” for outputs like wage, it results in trivial contradiction and greater input equality. For example, to “equalize” the wage of a part time worker to match a full time worker, you need to pay the part time worker a higher hourly rate than the full time worker. There, now you’ve achieved input inequality,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:29 PM
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This! Legal equality is the goal. This equality goal was met in the USA in the 1970s. But there are other countries where this type of noble legal feminism still needs to be espoused today. Meanwhile, in the past few decades in the USA, feminism has turned on the people, like an overactive immune system that starts to devour body cells since there are no germs left. Domestic violence free pass for women, and now pushing for higher wages for women over men - these are all poorly thought out power…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:20 PM
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Is your position that men and women are equal by law, but some pro female laws aren’t enforced sufficiently? I.e. you feel that enforcement of these laws is the only remaining purpose of feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:14 PM
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It’s a delusion that mothers are the primary parent. Most families have two productive parents - i.e. there is no primary, just two parents. Only in split or dysfunctional families is there a primary parent; and that can be the father or mother. Family courts use this “primary parent” gimmick combined with the inborn human feeling that “women are wonderful” to separate fathers from children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:13 PM
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The claim that men aren’t a marginalized group but women are? That’s one of the biggest scams in 2020s USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:55 PM
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Why are men’s rights activists the opposition of women’s rights activists (i.e. feminists)? They’re complementary, not opposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:46 AM
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That’s so well articulated, kudos!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:25 AM
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To the OP: What specifically would you see women protesting against? Your post is vague, “violently uprising against the status quo”. What exactly is the protest intending to change about the status quo?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 07:58 PM
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I think the idea is for parents to celebrate their child reaching puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:49 PM
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I think the idea is for parents of boys to celebrate, in addition to celebrating girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:44 PM
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Oh it’s celebrated in South Asian culture. The girl has gained the ability to incubate life, hence celebrating her. It’s also the opportunity for her family and friends to bring her protein rich food or her favorite foods, as support.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:36 PM
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That’s not quite right. The world has been a melting pot forever but it’s only becoming easier each century to relocate across countries. There are now erstwhile western people who’ve migrated east, and erstwhile eastern people who’ve migrated west.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:32 PM
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I see your noble intention in making each gender see the pain of the other gender. But I strongly advise that you don’t do this. Each gender will have their own problems and no one is helped by facing more problems of the other gender. I see your intention in helping boys to empathize with girls. But it’s a two way street, and you risk pushing sexism. Do you also want to have a “shorter life” simulator for girls to use? In my view we should respect females’ sexual role in childbirth and equally …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:26 PM
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Gotcha, we have statistics of reports of sexual assault against women in India. There are no statistics of sexual assault against men in India. Because in India a male cannot legally be a victim of sexual assault. A woman forcing a man to penetrate her is legal in India. So it’s unclear what the gender balance is - my personal guess is that there is high rate of sexual assault against females and males in India. In urban areas in India, everyone has to travel safe by taking precautions, men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:16 PM
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I’m not plugged into cross country comparison of rape. Are you stating that rate of rape cases filed is higher in India than in USA, per capita?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:52 PM
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Gotcha, thanks for sharing about your family tradition. It’s perfectly valid for a family not to celebrate puberty. Yes for boys, there’s no obvious moment of puberty, we’re considering to celebrate when he turns 15 or when he sprouts a mustache, whichever happens first.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:48 PM
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I feel that it’s a net positive celebration about the girl’s new power to incubate life. There’s always a negative angle that can be taken about puberty but the idea is to view how there’s a positive and also a cost (negative angle) to it. For example, for girls the negative is that it’s debilitating pain and hormonal disruption every month for the next 40 years. For example, for boys the negative is that his body starts focusing on strength instead of immunity and he’ll die 10 years sooner than…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:15 PM
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Yes this is the challenge that we face. We’re a family in the USA, of South Asian origin. Traditionally we celebrate puberty for girls but not for boys. (We celebrate the girl’s new power to incubate life; this is also the opportunity for friends and family to show support by bringing her nutritious foods, or her favorite foods) But for boys, as u/YveisGrey rightly said, there’s no clear puberty marker and it’s so wishy washy. This is the challenge - when to celebrate a boy’s puberty? My wife an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:06 PM
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In my family it’s felt that the girl has now gained the ability to incubate life, a new ability; it’s celebrated as a congratulations to her. It’s customary for friends and family to bring protein rich and nutritious snacks for the girl to eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:41 PM
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Go ahead with your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:38 PM
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It’s a global sub, it’s not specific to the “West”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:19 PM
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Gotcha, Americans of South Asian origin celebrate puberty but traditionally for girls specifically. IIUC, there are a few more peoples who celebrate similarly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:16 PM
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This post is in the context of celebrating puberty of a girl. Common in many parts of the world; I’m from the USA, and I’m of South Asian origin, and our families celebrate girls’ puberty. But my wife made the point, why should it be girl-only? So we’re discussing with our son about celebrating his puberty function. So far he’s feeling positive about it. This is not about jealousy, it’s about signaling gender parity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:41 PM
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Great question. It’s because men date up too. But the criteria is different by gender, so we often don’t realize that men are dating up too. Top men look for top characteristics in women, it could be for example hourglass shape. Similarly top women look for top characteristics in men, it could be for example v-shape torso. Here these two examples happen to focus on physical appearance, but there are many more dimensions in which people try to date up. Seems like physical appearance is important …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:34 AM
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I disagree with this. I would like to see every community welcome people regardless of labels. Yes women will not talk to you and they ignore you when you’re the only male in the group. I’ve personally experienced this. But this is not sexism. Any group is hesitant to engage out of group people, it’s new territory for them. I usually respect and observe the group dynamics and who the leaders are, and I respect them. Then I show passion, show my care for others in the group, then any kind-hearted…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:22 PM
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I’m male. Women are welcome to play video games. Me, and my gamer network enjoy playing with players of either gender and also to play with kids. We play with positive comments and we respect every player. To be frank, my “gamer network” is my two friends (one male, one female), my two kids (one male, one female) and anyone else who wants to join at that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:17 PM
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Unfortunately this is a common fallacy. Objectification is a normal part of the human sexual apparatus. As @IcyTrapezium rightly flagged, objectification can be a source of joy for both genders but only in a safe intimate setting. However, when two people are not being intimate, then objectification is an oppression and is unwelcome. Here’s a way to mentally model porn. Porn is to real sex what movies are to real life. Over-dramatized and cuts to the parts that people want to watch and skips a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:12 PM
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It’s a way to smear a person’s sexuality. For men, incel is a smear (“look you’re unable to find anyone to have sex with”). The closest equivalent for women is slut (“look you don’t gatekeep whom to have sex with”). Both terms are hurtful slurs. They are ad hominem attacks and should not be used in civil conversation.
/r/MensRights16/06/26 01:21 AM
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Thanks for flagging this major misandry. I’m saddened that our institutions are so eager to oppress males.
/r/MensRights15/06/26 07:26 PM
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This is a common fallacy. Current law (in India) claims that only when something is inserted into you, then you are raped. Hence under this law, a man forcibly having sex with a woman is rape. Whereas under the same law, a woman forcing a man to have sex, is not rape. In other words, India does not consider “forced to penetrate” crime as rape, in fact in Indian law it’s not a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:47 PM
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Gotcha, I see you’re just the messenger reporting how people think about this in general. Yes agreed, this is smarmy misandrist logic. Because consent is independent of a penis getting erect or a vagina getting wet or nipples getting erect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:33 PM
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This is incorrect. Typical DV first responder coaching recommends to suspect that the person with the larger body is probably lying (this is DV dog whistle code for “male”) and that victims are necessarily female. For example, see this typically NOMAS (feminist) training web page: “The relative size and strength of the parties is usually easy to see. Sometimes abusers will pretend to be afraid of their partner (more likely they are afraid she will report his abuse), but this is likely an attempt…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:07 PM
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No difference. Just different phrases to talk about activism for males. Activism for females is called Feminism. Activism for males is called men’s activism (or MRA, or male advocacy). I honestly don’t know how/if a “left wing” male advocate is different from male advocates in general. I think that the comment by @EmpathGenesis nails the difference in definition.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/26 07:48 PM
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Hmm, as a man, I’m not offended by the very few cat calls I received from women. But I never received a cat call from men, so I don’t have any evidence about that angle.
/r/MensRights08/06/26 06:36 PM
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I don’t understand, men and women both tend to grope people who look sexy and under dressed, just look at the reported experiences of men who are chiseled and walk around shirtless. Are you exploring both male and female experiences, or female only?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:15 PM
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The sexuality of each gender is complementary. Any sexual desire of one gender is likely to have a complementary counterpart in the above gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:58 PM
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It’s harder for either gender to like the other sexually because in modern times the polarity of outdoor champion (male) vs indoor champion (female) is muddled. In an increasingly tech driven society, men and women are peers in both outdoor and indoor domains, this has been the case since agriculture (for the past 10k years). This removes one of the gender polarities that drive sexual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:16 PM
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Yes many women in modern times don’t like most men sexually, this is because the polarity of outdoor champion (male) vs indoor champion (female) is muddled. Same for men, harder to like women sexually. It’s because intuitively females want to “bond up” while males intuitively want to “bond down”. In an increasingly tech driven society, men and women are peers in both outdoor and indoor domains, this has been the case since agriculture (for the past 10k years). This removes one of the gender pola…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:55 PM
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