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If you have to explain what your slogan means, pick a better slogan.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/26 01:04 AM
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Yes. Often.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/26 12:26 AM
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Are you a man? Then you are a man. That's all you need to know. Do right, help others when you can, and I don't care who you love. Bigotry is bigotry, and it's all wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/26 04:18 PM
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Came first? I'll take your word on it, just like "incel" led to "femcel", "mansplaining" led to "femsplaining", etc. But no, "foid" and "moid" are used pretty equally in bigoted communities. That's a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:58 PM
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Being held accountable would be no different than endorsing any other kind of bigotry. Lose friends, lose job, etc. Edit: sorry, I didn't answer your second question. Unfortunately, many men suffer from internalized misandry. So yes, sadly, many men did in fact tolerate the sexism against them, as they are expected to do. Thankfully, anti-bigots are pushing back.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:55 PM
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I have yet to see men's rights advocates pull a fire alarm to stop a feminist from speaking, but I have seen plenty of the reverse. I was once called a misogynist for commenting on a video of a group of men forming a human chain to save a dog from a river saying "men are awesome". Have you ever once seen positivity towards women called misandry? The fact that advocacy or even positivity towards men is seen as an attack on women is a problem. Men are expected to just take sexism, women are not. L…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:46 PM
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What's hilarious to me is literally moments before I saw this post I was on a sub that documents online misandry with several examples of people using moid, and that was just yesterday. In fact, come to think of it, you saying foid is the first I've seen of it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:53 PM
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Have you seriously never seen someone use the term "moid"? Like, really?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:09 AM
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It would 100% be a relationship dealbreaker for me. My girlfriend is Latina, imagine me saying "I hate Latinos....oh but not you...you're one of the good ones." Especially then expecting her to say "oh yeah, we're awful". Like, what the actual fuck? No, I will not just put up with your bigotry. For some positivity that sometimes we all need and if I may brag, I normally cook but my girlfriend told me not to worry, when I got home she had picked up wings.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/26 10:58 PM
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It's not about being confident in your career, that's just a source of income. What I mean is figuring out your passions, what matters to you, and using them to help your community. I'm a chef, I cook meals and volunteer around my community, but if you were to put a guitar in my hands and say play well, people would be praying for death. What I mean is confidence comes from where you choose to direct your energy, because that defines who you are as a person. Once you're there nothing can hurt yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:23 PM
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I've worked with a lot of young talented men, and I always tell them the same thing, and I'm shamelessly paraphrasing a speech by Arnold Schwarzenegger that I'd really recommend every young man and woman listens to about his "rules for success". His first rule is about figuring out who you are. You might be a doctor, a welder, a politician, a nurse, but that is what you are. To figure out who you are do a simple thought exercise: where do you want to volunteer? Do you want to walk dogs for the S…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:09 PM
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I was accused of basically carrying a falling down drunk woman back to my apartment. There was security videos of me walking home alone, her walking into my apartment about an hour later, walking just fine by the way, and then storming back out because I pushed her off me. I still lost friends because of it. Women being attacked while walking at night is even more rare than false accusations, but we're supposed to hold men accountable for their fears.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:01 PM
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That men who ghost women after being friendzoned were only ever after sex. Know what I love about my relationship? The cuddling up on the couch and watching a movie, making dinner together, little surprises, basically you know, a relationship. I've been broken up with by someone that wanted to stay friends, like no, I don't want to hear about the next guy you date, it would hurt. Yes, some men do feel entitled to sex, and some women feel entitled to friendship when friendship would hurt you. Som…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/26 04:11 PM
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Women have done enough? What have women done for men? Anyways, all valid things that could help the issue, but very surface level. Many things would make much more of an impact, let's start with the most low effort: stop bashing men. All other forms of bigotry are seen as massive character flaws, as they should, but misandry is not only tolerated but often used for clout. We can start by just calling these bigots out and teaching men they don't just have to tolerate bigotry because of their gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:57 PM
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You have a really disgusting view on men and I'm truly trying to help you grow and shake off your bigotry. Yes, those men existed, men today are expected to be "allies". Is it to much to ask women for the same? According to you, apparently so. Unfortunately, most men today grew up being told we live in a "patriarchy" and that they have it easier because they are men. If did live in a "patriarchy", if men did have it easier, we would not see men being the majority of the homeless, majority of sui…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:38 PM
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"Men are just lazy." You know this from your extensive experience of life as a man? Maybe try listening to men instead of telling them what life is like for them. You're no different than a man telling a woman on her period to just hold it in. I'm having some difficulty coming up with a counter term to "weaponized incompetence", wherein the man does the task correctly, but differently, but is still scolded and told he's doing it wrong. For example, according to me ex, I didn't know how to do dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:15 PM
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You... do know the patriarchy was and is the longest affirmative action program for men, right? It's literally gone on for thousands of years. Again, that would require it to exist. Even if it did in the past, the men alive today receive no benefits. The scholarships that women got were started by, paid for and maintained by other women. ...and taxpayers. This may come as a shock to you, but men also pay taxes. So programs that should be gender neutral, and indeed in 2026 favour men, still go to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:19 PM
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This is a lot of words to confirm what I said, capitalism exists, patriarchy doesn't. A society that only values a man based on what he can contribute is not a patriarchy any more than valuing women based on child birth is a matriarchy. Sorry to challenge your worldview, I know its hard, I used to believe men were privileged in my youth, but the facts show that it's just not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:50 PM
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So again, there either is no patriarchy, or there is but it is so inept at keeping men privileged that it might as well not exist. The only form of patriarchy is to enforce gynocentrism. Yes, men are pressured into positions of power, and pressured into using those positions into benefitting women at the expense of men. Hardly a "patriarchy" when those at the bottom are men. The women that occupy the middle are on the shoulders of those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:00 PM
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If we lived in a patriarchy. We don't. Or we live in a patriarchy so inept at privileging men that it might as well not exist. Men are the majority of the homeless, of suicides, the incarcerated, addicts, the list goes on. We do not live in a patriarchy because its mostly men at the top anymore than we live in a matriarchy because its mostly men at the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:14 PM
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So, let's talk about feminist action taken directed at helping men. Singling out men, and saying "we need policy change to help men". I looked around, but found only "uhhh, smash the 'patriarchy'?" I'm sure you'll find policy changes telling institutions to give men applying priority as they did women 50 years ago. Reply when you've found one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:46 PM
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Is this your first time on the internet or something? People claim women are oppressed left and right. What kind of question is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:43 PM
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I wouldn't call 40 years ago "very recently". Young men are discriminated against be preferential enrollment initiatives going to women, that's literally the definition. And yes the Trump administration are idiots. Discrimination in one area doesn't justify it in another.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:58 PM
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Define femicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:55 PM
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You...do know affirmative action programs favouring women and taxpayer scholarships available only to women are things in 2026, right? We put our thumb on the scale to get more women into school, the problem is that we never took it off, just kept pressing. Yes, boys are being discriminated against, there's no ifs ands or buts about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:55 PM
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And through affirmative action and women only scholarships equality was achieved in the mid 80s. Did those programs stop? Mission accomplished? No. So now that campuses are mostly women what actions have feminist groups demanded we take to fix this problem? I'm almost 40, I have never lived where men outnumbered women in school. The young men today never lived in a world where men out numbered women. The young women going to school never lived in a world where they were discriminated against. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:52 PM
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Oppressed? No, and neither are women. Minority? Yes, that's how numbers work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:44 PM
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Thats the silver lining to MAGA, they are a direct 1:1 comparison to feminists. MAGA is making America great, they'll tell you that. Lower egg prices, lower gas prices, no new wars, America is respected on the world stage, etc. For all of which the opposite is true. Feminists will tell you it's about equality, but have fought against equality over and over when equality would come at the cost of female privileges. You show either MAGA or feminists undeniable fact showing that their movement work…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/26 03:26 PM
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Credit where credit is due, one of the authors later admitted that they just made it up on their gut feelings, with no supporting data, and said the whole thing needs to be redone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/26 02:31 PM
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I've literally been called a misogynist for sharing the stats that men and women both commit, and are victimized by domestic violence at similar rates. I told them it says a lot about them that they're always happy to say women are equal to men in positive things like intelligence, but she considered it an insult to women to hear that women are equal to men when it comes to abusing partners. That's not misogyny, I'm not saying women are bad, I'm saying women are equal. Just one example but illus…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:26 PM
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Or their other standard reply when caught lying, like with the recent "rape academy" thing, "well it started a conversation". Like yeah, one that you're not welcome to because you can't keep your facts straight.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/26 02:32 PM
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It's interesting watching people have flat out proof that their beliefs are incorrect put in front of them and just reject it because they value their "team" more than facts. I'm kind of grateful for MAGA in this regard because it is a direct 1:1 comparison to feminists. Feminists claim it's about equality, and you can show example after example of feminist groups taking action against equality when equality would favour men, but they won't drop the label. American businesses are hurting, gas an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/26 01:23 PM
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I wish that they'd realize that when you throw words around like that it's not making it seem widespread, you're just making them lose weight. Keep them for when they actually apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:01 PM
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Well that's just it, they'll say it in a negative context about things like abuse or rape, similarly implying that it's never a woman.
/r/MensRights16/06/26 04:07 PM
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I've started using the phrase "not all men, but always a man" in a positive context. Child rescued from river? Baby caught after falling off a building? Dog rescued after falling through ice? "Not all men, but always a man". I got called a misogynist for saying that which was hilarious. I didn't coin this but it's very true: men can share collective blame, but never collective praise.
/r/MensRights16/06/26 02:58 PM
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I don't know who coined it, but the phrase "I didn't leave the left, the left left me" hits hard. I still hold all the same values, equality, a strong social safety net, healthcare. But the left left me with "its ok to discriminate against certain groups". No, that's not the left I know, or knew I guess.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/26 02:13 PM
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Most infanticide is done by the mother, do we ask women what actions they've taken to prevent babies being murdered? Do we lecture pregnant women on the fact that murdering babies is wrong? No. I've never raped anyone, how much more not raping can I do? It can't go lower than 0. I've also never murdered anyone, how much accountability do I have that it still happens? We're responsible for ourselves, not our race, not our gender, not our sexual orientation. Hating any of these groups is never acc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/26 02:10 PM
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The same people that are vocal about Brock Turner getting a light sentence are suddenly very quiet about Amy Schumer not only getting no sentence but painting her raping somebody as if she were the victim because she had body issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:19 PM
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Absolutely, if you do something wrong, you are doing it wrong. If you change a tire by taking it off and just driving on that's doing it wrong. I work as a chef and I always say if you put 10 chefs in a kitchen and say make a hard boiled egg you'll get 6-10 different methods but 10 perfectly hard boiled eggs. Just because you do something differently, doesn't mean you're doing it wrong if the results are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 08:27 PM
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Oh she did work, absolutely. I just apparently never did it "right". Sorry to hear that, it's never fair to be doing all the work. My buddy was in a relationship like that and he'd call me parked in his car just wanting a 15 minute break before going home. Thankfully he got out of it and had lots of support.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 08:13 PM
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Did you read even a word of what I said? I did the housework, I did it correctly, I just did it a different way than her and she said I did it wrong, because she wanted it done her way. The results were the same, clean dishes, a bed made, a clean floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:19 PM
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I actually had the inverse, I'm trying to think of a term for it. Basically any chore I did, I did "wrong". I did the dishes "in the wrong order", I made the bed "wrong", I even swept the floors "wrong". The dishes were clean, dry, and put away, the sheets were neatly on the bed, the floor was spotless. So why was I doing them wrong? I wasn't doing them the way she did them. It came to a head one day when she had friends over and was saying that I "can't even do dishes right", that sent me over …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:19 PM
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Or don't put the cat out at all because they are an invasive species and destroy native wildlife. Also known as being a responsible pet owner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:11 PM
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The same is absolutely true. As the other poster said, your bias is showing. I myself have been let down by women, but I know women as a group are good. You'll be happier when you realize the same is equally true for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:39 PM
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What a disgustingly sexist take. Most men are like most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:23 PM
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That's exactly what you should do. Keep the 72 hour rule. Water, batteries, flashlights, canned food. It might suck to eat cold but I've been in an ice storm where power stayed out and cold beans were better than...well... nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:49 PM
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Ok this whole post is hilarious, but I want to highlight one thing: No personal attacks. Also, this is verbal abuse by definition. Proving me correct: men have an abusive nature. Attacking an entire gender, then getting hurt by me wishing anyone with you well. Please get help. I believe bigots can indeed turn their lives around, and I wish that for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:26 PM
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So a man that got a paternity test in secret, but the wife checked the mail and found it, he's in the clear because he didn't tell her he got it? Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:14 PM
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Exactly, just like a go bag is accusing someone of being an abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:09 PM
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Or, when the baby is in the hospital already getting a bunch of screening tests, we can do one more. I'm going to respond to your other comments here so we're not jumping back and forth. Don’t compare the 0.00001% chance of paternity fraud Ok at this point you have to know you've lost credibility, right? Like, exaggeration is one thing but....what? I mean you call me a misandrist, but then compare the potential for paternity fraud to a disease outbreak and you call it a public health issue. I re…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:08 PM
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Are there misogynist men out there? Absolutely. In equal proportion to misandrist women. Have you not heard "misandry is a response to misogyny"? That door swings both ways. Go to TwoX, misandry everywhere. I always laugh at articles going "why are young people pro-equality, but anti-feminist?" It's like someone saying "every relationship I've had has been awful!" Did you ever consider...maybe you are the problem? No, I'm not talking about a married couple sitting down and signing a mortgage tog…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:54 PM
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So if you want your baby vaccinated you should pay out of pocket in a public healthcare system?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:45 PM
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Hey I'm no fan of American healthcare. I can only speak to Canadian, which absolutely has it flaws, but a paternity test at birth would undeniably be a net good.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:44 PM
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Most men? Cover up, your misandry is showing. We know domestic violence rates are almost equal between genders, so cut the nonsense. Yes, most people respond negatively to bigotry against their demographic, glad you learned something today. Would you be ok with a law allowing a man to sign a mortgage for a house, and sign on his partner's name, and have her be legally obligated to it? After all, she trusts him that it's a good house, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:42 PM
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I pay for treatment for cervical cancer even though I'll never get it. What's your point? It's for the good of the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:36 PM
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Having a plan mentally? Sure. Heck, I have a zombie apocalypse plan, I didn't build a bunker. Having a go bag or secret bank account? That absolutely is the exact same thing. You are taking action that is making an accusation at worst, establishing a lack of trust at best. They are equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:33 PM
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I'm from Canada so healthcare is free. We do all sorts of tests on newborns, as well as vaccinations. One more isn't a big deal. The real question is, there are nothing but positives by doing it, why are you opposing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:30 PM
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Because it would hurt the wife's feelings, and understandably so. That's why they should just be standard. It benefits everyone. The child can be screened for hereditary diseases, the man knows he is the father before signing an 18 year financial commitment, and the faithful women don't have their feelings hurt. Literally the only people that lose are pieces of shit who can no longer get away with fraud, so who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:28 PM
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Exactly, the equivalent would be a man finding out his partner has a secret bank account or a "go bag". It's an accusation, and this relationship is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:31 PM
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This is why they should just be a standard test at birth. There's literally no downside. There are numerous heredity diseases that could be screened for, so it's good for the child. It's obviously good for the alleged father to know if he is the father before signing the birth certificate. They only people that it would be bad for are cheaters trying to trick innocent people into paying for their infidelity, i.e. shitty people. So, they can go fuck themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:27 PM
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Do you honestly think there aren't men out there raising kids that aren't theirs? I wonder if female posters here consider that their opinions on paternity fraud carry as much weight as a man's opinion on abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:24 PM
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Exactly, like if I was rearranging my closet and found out she was keeping a "go bag", or had a secret account, it would be "I see you've packed a bag, just keep on packing cause you're out."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:22 PM
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Oh absolutely, call out the shitty behaviours, just don't assign a shitty behaviour to a group. Most men don't rape women, most women don't make false accusations. I think we're on the same page that suspecting either because on their gender is bigoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 04:08 PM
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I think it compounds when you speak out and get ridiculed. "Male tears", "Fragile ego", "if you don't do it, its not about you", etc. I can't imagine any other group being not only being expected to nod along with bigotry hurled their way, but shamed for standing up to the bigots while the bigots are viewed as virtuous. Look at all the social media posts about "men are trash", "the world would be better without men", many young boys and men see this and internalize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:57 PM
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It's tempting because by being a victim it paints your failures as not your fault, but your successes as overcoming adversity. But when it comes to men and women, neither group has it harder overall, but both have it better or worse in specific contexts. I agree with the positivity aspect. I hate to date myself, but I grew up during the Spice Girls "Girl Power!" era, while the only messaging to boys was basically "you're all monsters by nature but if you apologize enough you'll be ok". I mentor …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:19 PM
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I think step one is to focus on the individual, not the group. Genuinely bad people are in the minority, so it doesn't make any sense to generalize. We also need to stop the whole race to the bottom thing. "Men have it worse here" "Yeah? Well women have it worse here!" It's like if I was running a bake sale to raise funds for prostate cancer research, how much of a piece of shit would you have to be to say "NO! Shut it down! The focus should be on breast cancer research!"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:31 PM
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I've been called an incel just for proving feminists wrong. My girlfriend gets a kick out of it every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:36 PM
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Do they keep the same attitude when "women are afraid to walk at night" comes up?
/r/EverydayMisandry01/06/26 04:53 PM
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AITA is such a sexist shithole. There have been multiple times where the same story has been posted word-for-word but with the genders flipped and the man was the asshole both times.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/06/26 04:51 PM
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The best relationship summary I've seen is "it shouldn't be 50/50, it should be 70/30. And both should be trying to be the 70". Perfect. My grandparents were the gold standard for me, my Grandma at 97 would start getting up saying "I'm getting a glass of water, does anybody need anything?" and my Grandpa would say "oh sit down, I'll get it, does anybody need anything?" and I, in my 30s would say "how about you both sit down and I bring everyone water?" It really showed their character but also t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:00 PM
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Or having their deaths played up for laughs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/26 07:31 PM
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One thing I often bring up when the subject of "representation" happens (why aren't there strong female leads?), is the lack of demand for women to be represented in the one role they don't exist in: nameless goons that die by the dozens. You'll never hear a feminist say "not enough women were gunned down by the hero!" If anything, as we saw with Jurassic World, it's "a woman suffered a horrific death, as countless men have in these movies before? Unacceptable!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/26 06:26 PM
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It's criminal how awful young, awkward boys are treated. I volunteer at a non-profit teaching kids cooking classes, and have dealt with all kinds of kids. Growing up, a girl that was my neighbour was deprived of oxygen at birth, and as a result she spoke slowly, but she's plenty smart. Nonetheless she was bullied relentlessly, and I made more than one visit to the principal's office for either beating the shit out of a bully, or getting my ass kicked by the bully. Either way, I don't tolerate it…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/26 04:03 PM
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No, you never said you disagree with "believe women". That's the problem. If a man says he was falsely accused of rape do you just blindly believe him? A black person saying they were followed through a store? I'm simply holding up a mirror to your bigotry, you just don't like what you see. Also, I genuinely do not understand why some of you think calling women “bigots” is this devastating gotcha. Gotcha? If I hold up a rock and say "this is a rock" is it a gotcha? No, it's just a rock, just as …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:03 PM
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I suppose I misspoke, a woman should be more trusting than cautious around men. That is fact. Two things can be true at once. Women can exercise basic stranger danger around men they don’t know while also trusting and loving the men in their life. Those things are not mutually exclusive I'm glad you disagree with the "believe women" slogan. And yes, men help women too. No no no, none of that nonsense. Men are the helpers. Stop acting like a woman helping here and there is any different from a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:23 PM
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How do you simultaneously "exercise caution" and completely trust someone at the same time? As I mentioned, almost all bystander rescues are done by men. Men are far more likely to help you than harm you. By a lot. Would you accept people "exercising caution" based on race? There's no shortage of videos of people doing just that. Congratulations, you're in the same group as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:30 PM
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It's compounded by how it's not only acceptable but it's often used for clout. I've been called "fragile" for calling out misandry. No, fragile would be weekly accepting it. I'm calling you a piece of shit bigot to your face.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 12:14 PM
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Acknowledging male violence is not “misandry.” It’s reality. Why is misandry in quotation marks, as if it isn't a real thing? Furthermore, you acknowledge that selfless acts of heroism are overwhelming done by men, correct? If men deserve collective blame, they also deserve collective praise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:17 PM
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Perhaps you should read again, I did nothing in the wrong order, nothing wrong at all. I've stated multiple times that I did things correctly, and was still berated. Perhaps it's time to reflect on your own sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:47 PM
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It's better to be degraded than expect someone to better themselves? That's...a take, for sure. If a person has a flaw that they refuse to work on, that's a reason to leave for sure, which is why I did. I have flaws, my girlfriend has flaws, we all have flaws. What is important is recognizing and addressing them, not expecting others to accommodate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:50 PM
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I'd say the burden is on the neurotic partner to just be grateful or accept that they will just do the task themselves. I wonder how many stories of "weaponized incompetence" are just men that said "fuck it".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:38 PM
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And if a man expects a woman to do things his way? Is it valid? Like I said, my girlfriend folds clothes one way, I fold them another, both are clean, dry, folded clothes put away. It absolutely would be invalid for me to imply she is incompetent at doing laundry because she folds clothes differently than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:31 PM
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With an ex girlfriend she would complain that I did the dishes wrong. Were they still dirty? No. I just did them in the "wrong order". They were clean and put away, but because I did them differently than her I was doing them "wrong". One night she had friends over and was complaining about how I can't do dishes "right", so I had enough and opened the cupboards and said "ok, which were done by you, which were done by me? Obviously there's a difference" Her friend said "why can't you just do them…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:44 PM
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That's exactly what it is. Man abuses woman? "He's a monster!" And rightly so. Woman abuses man? "I wonder what he did to set her off." It isn't expectations of women, it's excuses for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:34 PM
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This is the problem with labels. I can be anti-feminist and care about women, because feminism isn't synonymous with women. It's also not synonymous with equality. Feminist groups have taken action against equality, when equality would benefit men, or come at the expense of female privilege. Look at NOW fighting against a bill simply stating that custody hearings should presume 50/50 and go from there. Look at 250 feminist organizations in Canada signing on to a letter asking then Prime Minister…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:01 PM
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Tell that to the feminist organizations fighting against equality then. Or are Republicans a party of good people? Just trying to have small, responsible government with a focus on individual rights? Republicans say that's what they are, so it must be true, right? Try evaluating ideologies and movements based on what they actually do, not based on what they say they do. Then you'll understand that feminism is not about equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:32 PM
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Absolutely! Incels have, as an ideology and through their actions, directly lead to deaths, just as feminists have. Nobody is born a feminist, nobody is born an incel. Just because women commit a terrible crime, doesn't mean I should be suspicious of women, does it? If you hold men as a demographic with suspicion, do you also hand out medals to men? After all, the vast majority of bystander rescues are men. As I said, it would be just fine if feminist groups only advocated for equality for women…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 06:58 PM
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I'll paraphrase Karen Straughn and say "with all due respect, you're a nobody. The feminists that represent feminism are doing evil things." And it's very true. Individual feminists believe feminism is about equality. If that were true, you'd see action from feminist groups on behalf of men. But you don't. If feminism was a special interest group simply focused on women's issues, that would be fine, but it isn't. If I started a charity to raise funds for bone cancer research, and you had one for…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:50 PM
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So black people don't face oppression because there's no rights that white people have that black people do not? I disagree, but apparently that's your opinion. Further to that, men have no rights that women do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:19 PM
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If you saw a headline saying "baby murdered", would you think "probably by the mother"? Because if you did, statistically you'd be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:06 PM
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They absolutely have, it goes on even today. The UN during a disaster will only distribute food to women. Men occupy the bottom as much as they occupy the top. Men are the majority of the homeless, majority of suicides, majority of those suffering from addictions, more likely to drop out of school, the list goes on. You just see the men at the top. If feminism were to just be a women's rights group, that would be fine. But when men's groups fight for equality that would come at the expense of fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:00 PM
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You should probably avoid Black Lives Matter rallies, for your own safety. Your attitude of "who is killing black people? Oh right, OTHER BLACK PEOPLE!!" would not go over well there. When men harm men to benefit women, it's women that are privileged, not men. Feminists didn't make the decision, but for a group that's supposed to be about equality, and had all the time in the world to combat "manspreading", they are oddly quiet here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 05:50 PM
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Glad we're on the same page that men are awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:32 PM
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Child abuse and infanticide is "usually" committed by a woman. So if I said "when I picture a child abuser or a child murderer I picture a woman" you'd say "well of course!" Right? Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:29 PM
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"Not all men, but almost always a man" applies equally to selfless acts of heroism. If men can share collective blame, surely they deserve collective praise, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:15 PM
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"Don't like people clutching their purse around you or following you through a store because you're black? Well if you weren't going to do anything wrong then it's not about you!" Sounds bad, doesn't it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 09:33 PM
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"Why are young men supporting equality but not feminism? Are we out of touch? No...it's the men who are wrong."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 07:24 PM
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I think it's also the need for a "quick fix". Lonely? Can't get a girlfriend? Subscribe to my channel and I'll tell you how! Is the advice "take an honest stock of yourself, look for areas to improve, accept that self-improvement takes time, but keep at it"? Nope. There's a reason gym memberships surge in January and drop in February, people don't get the results they want fast enough and think it's the method that's flawed. Same goes for get rich quick schemes. We absolutely do need more positi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:00 PM
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I think your motivations are the key. I saw an old lady crying because the wheel of her cart broke outside the grocery store, I couldn't fix it so I loaded her groceries into my car and drove her home. What was in it for me? Nothing. Maybe the smile I got from knowing a good deed was done. If you're doing acts to get a reward then it stops being about doing the right thing and doing something only because you expected something in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:54 PM
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Oh of course I got your meaning, just reflecting on how it almost seems odd that people view being with someone that isn't exactly like them as weird. She's her own person, and I love that person.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 04:01 PM
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I'm grateful that my girlfriend and I can share separate hobbies, but a lot of overlapping ones. She also loves our outdoor adventures, minus hunting. I play hockey, she does not. She watches make up videos, I do not. Not everything is about me, not everything is about her.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 02:10 PM
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I've been told that the reason I love being outdoorsy is "toxic masculinity". Like the idea that a man liking something traditionally masculine only does so because he's conforming, not that men can just...enjoy things. I love the smell of lilacs, fishing, hunting, foraging, camping, the sound of rustling leaves, a swim in a river, cooking over a fire, those aren't everyone's interests, but they're mine. Nobody, certainly not "patriarchy" forced my hand in this, I'm just happy engaging with natu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 01:02 PM
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I always tell my girlfriend every time I get called an incel, she finds it hilarious.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 12:53 PM
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I, too, would like it. I can believe it, of course, but it would be handy for when the "man or bear" nonsense comes up to say "man or food? Because you're safer with the man."
/r/MensRights04/05/26 04:05 PM
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It took me until my late 30s to realize that "just be yourself" is good advice, but it's incomplete. Just be yourself, but first you have to figure out who "yourself" is. You might think it's an easy answer, "I like sports", "I'm a doctor", "I like gaming". I mentor a lot of young men, and the challenge I always give them is to volunteer at a charity, but one of their choice. What cause is worth you sacrificing what you want to do for what you should do? Feeding the homeless? Walking dogs at the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:39 PM
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"A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle" Correct. A woman doesn't need a man, but women need men just as men need women.
/r/MensRights28/04/26 10:56 AM
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Unfortunately that's the way discourse is today. "You disagree with feminist theory? You hate women!" "You don't think immigrants are stealing your jobs? You hate America!" Feminist groups put out false numbers, this is fact. But the truth isn't scary enough for people to give money, so instead of saying "in 2021 1,600 women and 1,000 men were murdered by their partners, meaning for every 3 dead women there were 2 dead men" what they say instead is "30% of murdered women were killed by their par…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/26 08:42 PM
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Well go on then, make a post arguing it. Show us what "real" feminism looks like. You won't. Because you know what will happen. Because you, in fact, do know what real feminism looks like. It's no different from MAGA, "get those pesky facts out of here! I have to keep people scared so that they give me money!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/26 07:48 PM
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"Disproves" it? That's just what The PatriarchyTM wants you to think!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/26 07:04 PM
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"Men are awful and here's proof!" "Those numbers are incorrect. In fact, most selfless acts of heroism are done by men. Its just as accurate to call men as a group bad for rape as it is to call women bad for infanticide." "...that's misogyny!" "No, I'm not saying women are bad, I'm saying that my statement is just as accurate and you rightly feel attacked. That's why your statement is also wrong." "...misogyny!!!!"
/r/MensRights26/04/26 04:07 PM
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Look at any video of someone rescued by a complete stranger. Heck, even an animal. What gender is the hero that risked themselves without a thought because someone was in danger? If men share collective blame we're owed collective praise. I don't expect a cupcake every time a man recuses a child from drowning, I also expect to not be blamed when a man murders his wife. I saved a woman from choking, I stopped a child from running out into traffic, but when a man does something bad I hear "we choo…
/r/MensRights26/04/26 02:56 AM
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In that year just over 1600 women were murdered by their partners, and just over 1000 men by theirs. Saying "5x more likely!" sounds scary and gets donations, but the ratio is actually 1.6:1. Or, for every 3 women murdered by their partner, there are 2 men murdered by theirs. Show them the numbers and they rush in with "well maybe she was defending herself!" Do you extend the same benefit of the doubt to men?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/26 07:32 PM
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Would you give up a steady paycheck because your job is less relevant purely out of ethical reasons, or invent reasons to make it seem relevant? I would take the former, feminists have chosen the latter, as have conservatives. When you need there to be something scary but there isn't, you make things scary.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/26 07:45 PM
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I call it the MADD effect. I worked with a guy that told me that in the 70s he was driving home drunk, he was very ashamed of it, but he was swerving all over the road and a cop stopped him. The cop told him "ok leave your car here, I'll drive you home, come get it tomorrow". That's just how it was back then. So along comes MADD and they accomplish great things, awareness campaigns, spot checks, all funded by donations largely from people that lost people or knew people that lost people. They ha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/26 01:35 AM
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That's just it though, "male" isn't a privilege multiplier. There are no downsides to being born cis, no downsides to being born heterosexual. There are plenty of downsides to being born male. Are there privileges? Absolutely. Does the existence of very real and very significant female privileges make women a "privileged group", I'd say no. The same goes for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 01:21 PM
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Yes, exactly as I described but with the genders flipped. Hence why its so ridiculous for some people to claim "misandry doesn't exist", the movie won Oscars and included a song about women celebrating killing their husbands.
/r/MensRights18/04/26 02:48 PM
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I had video proof that I was falsely accused. She claimed I drugged her and dragged her down the hallway of my school's residence. The thing was, I left the party we were at, went home alone, hung out with my roommate for a bit, went to bed, woke up to her on top of me, pushed her off, she stormed out. Well, guess she didn't notice all the security cameras in the hallway showing what actually happened, including her walking into my apartment and storming back out minutes later. I still lost frie…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/26 01:59 PM
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I've had this conversation often, and it's just baffling. "Men are not a privileged group." "Oh, so women are privileged? Look at all the downsides to being a woman!" "No, I didn't say women are privileged, just that men are not. Being born straight is a privilege, there's basically no downsides. There are downsides to being born a woman, but there are downsides to being born a man. There are male privileges, there are female privileges. Neither are a privileged group." "But...CEOs, politicians,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/26 01:41 PM
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Are you addressing my hypothetical movie? That would be misogyny, yes. The actual play and movie Chicago won multiple awards despite the protagonists having murdered men and being cast in a positive light, hence the misandry.
/r/MensRights18/04/26 01:16 PM
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The current discourse has also trained women to see misogyny where there is none. When I started at my workplace I noticed my co-chef being increasingly agitated, so I asked her what was up. She said that the shop guys treat me better and it's because I'm a man. I've worked construction, auto body, and now in kitchens, I swear like a sailor. She is polite and proper. So I told her to "shop talk" the guys, and lo and behold they talk to her like they talk to me. Nothing to do with her being a wom…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/26 01:03 PM
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I often point out that feminists will make the point that women getting favoured in custody is "patriarchy" and that childcare is a burden. Then I ask if that's the case, why did feminist organizations oppose legislation that would have custody be presumed to be 50/50? Obviously some parents are unfit, but the legislation was just to start with 50/50 and go from there. Custody should be taken away, not fought for. It would be exactly what feminists claim to want: men sharing the "burden" of chil…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/26 12:35 PM
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Wasn't really making a point beyond that misandry isn't just tolerated, it's celebrated and seen as a virtue. No other group is expected to see hatred against them for the way they were born and nod along and agree, and God forbid they challenge it or they'll be labelled "fragile".
/r/MensRights18/04/26 12:22 PM
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The musical "Chicago" debuted in the 70s, with "Cell Block Tango" being a hit number. Imagine a production of a man cheating on his wife and murdering his mistress, going to jail and the warden saying "I've never met a man that killed a woman that didn't deserve it", then the men of the block break out into song "she had it coming, she had it coming, she has only herself to blame". Now imagine that got made into a movie that audiences clap, sing along with, and won academy awards, all with peopl…
/r/MensRights17/04/26 09:30 PM
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Unfortunately that's how a lot of people actually think. Bigotry is bigotry, no matter which group it's targeted at, but some people think its ok if it's against men.
/r/MensRights17/04/26 11:15 AM
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Certain racial groups are over represented in crime statistics, are you OK with generalizations against them? I'm not. Your examples include the word "all", but that's not how it gets said, its just "men do this, men do that", the "all" doesn't need to be said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:56 PM
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It's funny when you ask them "so misogyny is ok? After all many men are exposed to misandry, so if they become misogynists it's justified?" "Uhhh, no, wait, that's different...."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 03:00 PM
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"I'm not fragile, fragile would be running and crying about it. I'm saying directly to you, right now, that you are a piece of shit."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 02:58 PM
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Men can share collective blame, never collective praise. Men as a group can be held accountable for acts of violence, but treating acts of heroism as male is misogyny, despite both being equally true. Don't say "fireman", say "firefighter", but condescendingly explaining something to someone? Mansplaining.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/26 09:15 PM
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So who was killing these men in intimate partner homicides? The data shows that lesbian relationships have the highest instances of IPV, so it makes more sense to believe that more women are killed by women than men killed by men. Also, only about 6% of murdered men are killed by partners(not always women, many in homosexual relationships/hookups) compared to 34% of women. Which would make a valid argument....if men and women were murdered in equal numbers. They are not. Far more men die from mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 03:04 PM
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According to the 2021 FBI data, 1,600 women were murdered by intimate partners, and 1,000 men. So for every 3 women killed, there were 2 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:55 PM
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So if you see misogyny, it's women's fault? OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:29 PM
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So women are accountable for misogyny? Weird take. I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:43 PM
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What a disgusting take. Do you ask the same of women exposed to misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:28 PM
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Happened to me, someone was going on about how it's ok to treat men as a threat as a statement of fact, I responded that it was the exact logic used by racists to justify their racism. The admins threatened me with a ban. I never said anything racist, she was sexist, I get the ban warning.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:11 PM
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Many young men have grown up exposed to misandry, if they became misogynists, posted things like "kill all women" or "women are trash" or "the bar for women is in hell" would you say "oh, us women need to do better", or "wow, what a bigot"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:06 PM
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One has been baked into laws, institutions, and norms for a long time. The other mostly shows up as attitudes or rhetoric. Not the same scale, not the same impact. You are talking about misandry here, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:03 PM
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Are there male privileges? Yes, of course. Are there female privileges? Same answer. Neither men nor women are a "privileged" group. Yes, feminism claims men are, and that's why they are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 07:57 PM
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I always just say "I won't inconvenience myself to accommodate the feelings of a bigot".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 07:36 PM
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Ah, see here is the problem. You view men as a "privileged" group. This is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:48 PM
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Any time you see a video of any human selflessly risking their lives to save another, maybe keep tabs on the gender of the hero. If men get collective blame they deserve collective praise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:41 PM
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What exactly did I say that was incorrect? Also are you acknowledging the fact that men perform the vast majority of selfless acts of heroism?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 08:11 PM
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You should probably look into who makes up the majority of the disadvantaged before making such an ignorant comment. Spoilers: men. Some men having it good doesn't cancel out that most that have it the worst are also men. Does the fact that men perform the vast majority of selfless acts of heroism cancel out acts of violence committed by men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:33 PM
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If "patriarchy" comes along with a caveat that men exist as a "privileged group" or "have it easier" then we are demonstrably NOT living in a "patriarchy".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:16 PM
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If feminism was about equality, this would be a feminist issue. Yet every time men's groups bring up equality that would benefit men at the expense of female privilege feminist groups rally to fight against equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:11 PM
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Women are valued as sex objects, and thus put the bulk of their efforts into their looks. Men are viewed as success objects, and thus put their effort into status and wealth. What you say is...kind of true, but of course it varies person to person. Not to toot my own horn but I am a conventionally attractive man, but I'm also a chef, so one question I'd encounter frequently was income. Some women love hearing that I volunteer at soup kitchens and the food bank, some lose interest after they hear…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 06:46 PM
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Um, that's exactly what that "nugget" is describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 01:59 AM
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Women by a slight margin. Roughly a 60/40 split. Your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 10:07 PM
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Literally anywhere? I thought this was basically common knowledge at this point. I don't think I can link other subs here but check out TheTinMen, he has a lot of well sourced presentations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 07:22 PM
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Oh you silly goalposts, someone has gone and moved you! Get back over here! Glad we at least agree that women are just as likely to be violent and abusive as men in relationships. Out of curiosity, since so many people get this number wrong, for every one man murdered by his partner how many women do you think are murdered by theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 06:44 PM
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Women commit half of domestic violence, so you're just as likely to beat him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 03:01 PM
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"Privilege doesn't mean you have it easy, just easier." Men make up the majority of suicides, the majority of the homeless, workplace deaths, incarcerated. The only way these facts can coexist with men "having it easier" is if you believe women are so amazing that they fail less despite the deck being stacked against them, or men fail more despite the deck being stacked in their favour. Or, the more obvious conclusion: the deck isn't stacked in men's favour.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/26 10:29 AM
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The same people that say "fat women are beautiful queens" will respond to any disagreement with "you have small dick energy".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/26 09:57 AM
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Parent: slaps kid once a day every day to "keep them in line", claiming "its for their own good". Kid hits 18, moves out goes no contact Parent: "how could this have happened?! It must be those damn online influencers!!!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/26 09:12 AM
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In my experience it's asking that of someone is "having standards" being asked is "they're entitled".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:12 PM
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"Any man that must say 'I am the king' is no true king." For some reason that line comes to mind when a "strong independent woman" or a "badass girl" describes herself as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:56 PM
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I was so on board with the title, and then read the post. Yes, there are just as many "woman-children" as there are "man-children", but it's about what you expect and what you deliver, not what you earn. It's funny when you see people get all pissed about "what do you bring to the table?" I don't ask it directly, that would be rude, but it's important to establish that you want to add to the relationship and expect her/him to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:53 PM
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It would be interesting when a tragedy like this happens and people yell and scream "more resources for women!" to have a counter that say "in the time between this woman being murdered and the last woman that was murdered, this many men died by suicide."
/r/MensRights23/03/26 04:39 PM
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It's along the same lines as a perfect response I saw a while ago to "where are the good men?" "They're with the good women." My girlfriend has never said anything sexist, we thank each other for each act of kindness, or just a chore done. She got home first and did laundry? I got home first and she's walking into a house smelling like dinner is ready? We both say thank you for each and every little thing. What a sad existence that commenter must lead.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/03/26 05:55 PM
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That seems to be the style now, my friends and I are almost in our 40s, we disagree on things, some of them are left wing, some right, I'm more a slightly left centrist. One thing though, we can disagree and not fight, and that's because we know each other and know we're all good people. Online people need you to fit into a box. If you disagree with someone you must every negative box. Acknowledge that men suffer equally from domestic violence? You're a Trump supporting misogynist that thinks wo…
/r/MensRights21/03/26 05:30 PM
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Whenever I talk about either of my abusive exes, I'd say 50% of the time the first response is "well, why was she so angry? What did you do?" Well let's see: one time I was sitting on the couch and she walked up and slapped me in the back of the head because I left a plate and cutlery in the sink because the dishwasher was halfway through its cycle. Another time she was talking about her day, my mom called, I didn't answer and figured I'd call her back later, then she called back immediately aft…
/r/MensRights21/03/26 03:03 PM
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It's funny when you suggest coffee, ice cream, walk in the park, etc, and they either ghost you or insist on "no, I want an expensive restaurant". I'm a chef, so I always ask about favourite foods when we're in the "small talk" phase. My first date with my girlfriend I invited her over for one of her favourites, we ate and watched a movie, and we've been together ever since. Don't trust anyone that expects things up front. If a guy expects sex right away, he's only into you for sex. If a woman e…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:24 PM
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Exactly. I compare it to chewing with your mouth open, just can you pinpoint the exact moment where whoever was raising you dropped the ball? I've stopped dudes from harassing women, it happens, of course it does. Am I a "simp"? No, I'm just a decent person that is willing to intervene when something wrong is happening. A woman speaking out about men's issues is no different.
/r/MensRights20/03/26 09:01 PM
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Hell, it's used to gain clout. Imagine "I hate women" getting thousands of likes and women being expected to go "yeah, we're the worst, but I promise I'm one of the good ones". Any woman that calls out misandry gets called a "pick me" instead of the more accurate "decent human being".
/r/MensRights20/03/26 10:49 AM
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The "harming a man's ego" on is particularly interesting to me. Like, who takes pride in tearing someone down? It's annoying (and not gendered) when someone is boastful, "strong, independent women" remind me of the line "any man that must say 'I am the king' is no true king." "I'm a strong, independent woman!" No you've just been rejected a lot. I'm with a strong, independent woman, she's never said that phrase once.
/r/EverydayMisandry19/03/26 04:40 PM
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A commenter was saying women being afraid of men is fine because of statistics, I pointed out that that's exactly how people justify racism against black people. I was given a warning by the admins. Not mods, admins. I appealed saying I don't actually believe it's ok to be more afraid of someone because they are black, just that both are bigotry. Nope. Appeal denied.
/r/MensRights18/03/26 11:49 AM
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They see equality as a buffet. "Right to vote? Oh yes I'll have some of that. Presumed 50/50 custody? No thank you. Right to work? Oh, yes please! Draft? Oh heavens no!"
/r/MensRights18/03/26 09:47 AM
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"Begin with the end in mind" is the basis of just about every feminist "study". "Men win custody when they fight for it!" Ask mothers if they'd call every other weekend "winning" and get back to me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/26 08:00 PM
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Cooking, I couldn't really give you a dollar figure, it varies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:00 PM
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Seriously. "If you like buying cars, then buy one that doesn't work, you can't complain, because you still spent money on a car!"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:59 AM
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It simply doesn't exist, for women or men. Shit people are shit, they will continue to be shit until they decide to change. So, so many are set in their ways and simply won't change. Men and women are no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:38 PM
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I think most of the problems "nice guys" face when it comes to dating stems from thinking nice = subservient. I can't speak to the equivalent for women, but I'm sure it exists. "If I do everything they want, they are bound to love me!" Good people, both men and women, don't want a servant, they want someone that they know they can depend on when they need it. Are there people out there that do want a servant? Absolutely. But good people don't so why would you want them? When I'm sick, my girlfri…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:47 PM
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Well now it's my turn to lmfao. Ever hear the phrase "for every beautiful woman, there's a man that's sick of her shit"? Not to toot my own horn but I am a conventionally attractive man that has dated conventionally attractive women. Surprise, surprise, women have just as many flaws as men. My girlfriend and I both have horror stories, but she's mature enough to know being a shitty person has nothing to do with gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:28 PM
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So women should just accept negative generalizations on women, right? Men are just sharing their experiences, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:19 PM
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Another generalised statement just from your own personal experience Funny coming from someone who just did the same. Most men are toxic as hell and you realise that very quickly after talking to them. Patently untrue. Most men are awesome. If the awesome ones (most) are avoiding you, maybe do some self reflection, because there's a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:17 PM
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I think of it like drivers and cyclists. If you're a driver and see a cyclist run a stop sign, you think "it's because he's a cyclist", you see a driver run a stop sign and its "that guy is a douche", and vice versa. Some people see the world as "woman does bad thing? Its because she's a bad person, man does bad thing? It's because he's a man".
/r/EverydayMisandry14/03/26 06:07 AM
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So men are oppressed by the Duluth model, scholarships for women, lighter sentences for women, etc? There's pros and cons for both. Either both are oppressed or neither. Not one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 05:42 AM
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Swap "men" with "black people" and get both a simultaneous "that's different" and "here's why my bigotry is ok"
/r/EverydayMisandry13/03/26 09:48 PM
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I also missed last week's meeting, anyone have the minutes? I've been rejected by a woman for having a beard, I've rejected women because of their weight. Both are things we can control, I could shave, she could drop a few pounds (granted mine would be much faster), but you're not entitled to someone's attention regardless of how you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:53 PM
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"I started dating a black person and was surprised to learn there are good ones out there". See how that sounds?
/r/EverydayMisandry13/03/26 09:55 AM
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You'll often hear "women are 5x more likely than men to be murdered by their partners". They justify that with of murdered women, 30% were murdered by a partner, vs 6% of murdered men. 6 x 5 = 30, ergo women are 5x more likely to die at the hands of a partner than men. That would be true, if men and women were murdered in equal numbers. In that same year that the statistic was published by the FBI, women murdered by partners numbered just over 1600, men just over 1000. So it's not 5:1, its 1.6:1…
/r/MensRights12/03/26 02:36 PM
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I'm reminded of NOW fighting against presumed 50/50 custody. Feminists claim childcare is a burden and women getting custody is part of "patriarchy", so they should be all for "smashing the patriarchy" by supporting the bill, but they fought against it. They claimed that the men supporting it were an "abusers lobby", as if men care more about abusing women than seeing their children. It wasn't even mandatory 50/50, just that either parent should have to show why it shouldn't be 50/50. Sadly, its…
/r/MensRights12/03/26 11:02 AM
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Was there the same study done asking women if husbands should obey wives?
/r/MensRights12/03/26 10:09 AM
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"Misandry isn't real" "Men are the vast majority of the homeless, the vast majority of suicide victims, the vast majority of workplace deaths, we talk about domestic violence as if it only affects women despite men making up half the victims yet receiving no government funding for shelters." Only one of these statements is fact. It isn't the first.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/03/26 08:33 PM
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Even worse, look up Elizabeth Sheehy. A law professor that thinks if a woman murders her abusive husband she should face no prison time. Yes, she gendered it, a man killing his abuser deserves prison according to her. But worse, she cites examples of women in prison for killing men that she believes should be free because the men were abusive. The evidence? They said so. Imagine a murder trial where the accused says "yes I killed that person, but they deserved it" and the judge goes "ok, off you…
/r/EverydayMisandry10/03/26 02:14 PM
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You'll often hear them use the term "historical discrimination" to justify the discrimination today. I'm nearly 40, when I was born campuses were about equal and have gotten more and more unequal since. Women going to school today never lived in a world where they were discriminated against in education. Hell, their mothers never experienced discrimination. The young men going to school have only experienced a world where they are discriminated against. And yet you tell them its ok, or worse, co…
/r/MensRights10/03/26 02:06 PM
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Glad we agree it's not about equality, please pass that on to all the feminists that, for some reason, insist that it is and that men should support it. That does kind of prove my point though about feminist groups using time, effort, and resources to fight against equality when equality would come at the expense of female privilege, doesn't it? In a "stopped clock" type situation, feminists do get one thing right: "when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression". Show me on…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:28 PM
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Feminism is for women. Glad you agree it's not about equality. We're both on the same page. We’ll agree and back you up to abolish the draft completely, or ensure it’s equal or need be ...except when it's about to be equal and feminists fight against equality. As they so often do. a court and judge couldn’t keep a good parent away, it’s because with the stability of his wife n kids has left, and now his own addictions that caused the break up are out of hand. And women get custody because Zandor…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:43 PM
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That's standard motte and bailey argumentation. "If you support equality, you are a feminist" "Ok, I'm a feminist" "Good, so you believe that men are privileged and women are oppressed" "Wait, no, that's not true. There are many areas where men have it worse and women are the privileged group so I guess I'm not a feminist" "Oh, so you don't believe in equality?" And around and around it goes. I'm anti-feminist because of actual real world actions taken by feminist organizations. Policies put in …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:17 PM
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Funny how when a bill including women in the draft comes across they have all the time and resources to fight against it, but when it goes back to being just men all they can do it go "yeah...that's bad", isn't it? Almost like if they actually cared they would keep up that same effort they had to keep women out of it. I'd strongly suggest you read up on the methodology of that "study", particularly the definitions. They counted fathers getting the typical every other weekend custody as "winning"…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:11 PM
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If you support individual rights you're a republican. See how stupid that sounds? Judge a group by what they do, not by what they say they do. I'm pro-equality, anti-feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:01 PM
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I'm not anti-feminist due to any of that, I fully support equality. I'm anti-feminist because of actions taken by feminist groups against equality when equality would benefit men at the expense of female privilege. Things like fighting against women being included in the draft, saying the draft is against human rights, but when it goes back to being just men suddenly it's not a big deal anymore. Things like fighting against custody reform to make it presumed 50/50, and it would only change if on…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:17 PM
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Exactly. If a man and a woman are both caught committing the same crime, say drug possession, and they man is arrested and charged but the woman is let off with a warning, then years later the same man and woman are caught with drugs but now both are arrested, for him he's reoffending, for her its a first offense.
/r/MensRights07/03/26 01:44 PM
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What I always question with the whole "historically" thing is where does it end? Parity in post secondary education was achieved in the 80s. Since then its just been more and more women and fewer and fewer men. I'm nearly 40 and I have never lived in a North America where men outnumbered women, the men today never experienced discrimination going in their favour, the women never experienced it going against them. They weren't alive. So why are their lives being impacted by discrimination for a t…
/r/MensRights06/03/26 11:12 AM
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I think it's wise to avoid fixation on which gender has it better or worse on an individual basis. The struggles of others shouldn't diminish your own. I agree wholeheartedly. There are many that claim with absolute certainty that "men/women have it better!" or "men/women have it worse!" when neither is objectively true. For every downside to being born a woman there's a downside for being born a man, same for every upside. My point was simply that there are cases where one group is clearly "pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:30 PM
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Which do you disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:29 PM
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Feeling equally scared when with one of the genders your chance of being attacked is like 10 times higher is pure delusion. Western women are the safest demographic in the history of the species. Unless you were talking about men, in which case you are close, but men are 80% of victims of violent crime, so not exactly 10 times higher. But again, women are by far the safest any human being has ever been. Who told you otherwise? When women don’t take safety precautions, they are blamed for getting…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:38 PM
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Hey I already gave you credit, you are consistent with your bigotry. I just choose to....not be a bigot. But you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:15 PM
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Women can legally abandon children, men have no say in abortion, if anything men have less reproductive rights. Thank you, I really do appreciate it. If you have the time or money (which I know we're all short on now) the food bank can always use help. If you want to donate the best thing you can give is money, I know it feels good to put a can in the collection bin but with money they can pool it and buy in bulk and get way more per dollar than retail. There's also the fact that we know what we…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:12 PM
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How does anything to do with abortions benefit men at the expense of women? Both pro-choice and pro-life camps are evenly split as far as gender. I agree on your second part, we certainly do. A big part is social stigma, I volunteer teaching kids cooking classes, and I've had multiple parents approach my boss saying that they don't like a man teaching kids. Im sure these are the same people that will turn around and say "where are all the male role models?!?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:32 PM
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Probably shouldn't say that in "progressive" circles. Bigotry is tolerated, but only against certain groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:26 PM
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I'd love to hear about law or policy passed in our lifetimes that benefit men at the expense of women. Just one example will do. We have taxpayer (i.e. half men) funded programs for women owned businesses, women only scholarships even though women make up the majority of campuses. Just one, one example of us saying "ok ladies, we are writing a law or policy that prioritizes men".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:18 PM
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A) No they don't. I'd love to see a source. B) It is true that men commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime. It is true that black people commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime. So if you're walking down the street and someone is coming towards you, if its a man your "threat meter" goes up to 7, but then you see that it's a black man so it goes up to 10, right? Right? Statistics and all that. All bigots are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:14 PM
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Its just more dehumanizing to excuse bigotry. Did that woman falsely accuse that man because she's a woman? No, she's just a shitty person. Men that do bad things don't do them because they're men, they do them because they are shitty people. Like it or not, the number of shitty people is evenly distributed between genders, races, sexualities, everything. Everyone is just one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:46 PM
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I was more addressing the fact that we do base policy when women are more affected, but not men. Even worse, we base policy when women aren't more affected. Take domestic violence for example, men and women are victimized, and perpetrate, domestic violence at nearly equal rates, and yet policy and funding are all centered around women. If we center women on a subject that is not gendered, why don't we center men on a subject that is? That said, I agree that neither should be prioritized, just po…
/r/MensRights28/02/26 02:05 PM
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Exactly. Acknowledging that women face more street harassment doesn't mean men don't commit suicide more. Each issue needs to be tackled.
/r/MensRights27/02/26 11:15 AM
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Women don't have it better than men, men don't have it better than women, women don't have it worse than men, men don't have it worse than women. These are facts. Some people's belief structure hinges on those facts not being true so they jump in with buzzwords, but no, those are facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:36 AM
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They'll call you a misogynist for simply saying you won't call yourself a feminist because of the anti-equality actions feminist groups have taken, even after giving examples. Its the same mentality as MAGA, "we're right, they're wrong, no matter what the objective facts say".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/26 06:37 PM
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"I'm happy! Who says I'm not happy? I'm the happiest happy that has ever happy-ed! Why is everyone looking at me? I JUST TOLD YOU I'M HAPPY!!!!" We want to help you because you're not. You just blame men for your unhappiness the same way racists blame immigrants because they can't get jobs.
/r/EverydayMisandry22/02/26 10:29 PM
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When I talk to self-declared progressives, I always challenge them to create a comprehensive list of white privileges and then ask them if they apply more to men or women. Lower sentences for the same crime? Women. More likely to go to college or university? Women. Just because male privileges exists doesn't mean female privileges don't. And no, you can't just wave you hand and say "patriarchy" and it stops being female privilege. If you can expect a better outcome than someone else because you …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/26 05:57 PM
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I call it the MADD effect. I've worked with men that told me that in the 70s cops would pull you over drunk off your ass, and they'd tell you to leave your car at the side of the road and give you a ride home. There was definitely a need for change. So MADD forms, raises money to get laws passed, RIDE checks started, all good things. And what happens? They are successful. Of course this is a wonderful thing, deaths from drunk drivers are going down. But with these lower numbers, donations also g…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/26 05:18 PM
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It's where this person says the post itself isn't misandrist. Men get attacked all the time for rejecting women, I know from far too much experience.
/r/EverydayMisandry19/02/26 10:56 PM
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If she's uncomfortable around a man because he's a man she's a bigot. If she's uncomfortable around a man because he is behaving threateningly it's because he's behaving threateningly. I used to work in an area with lots of homeless people, it didn't matter to me if you were a man, woman, black, white, I'd politely let you know that children would be coming in on school trips in an hour. No rush, just please be gone by then. Most people reacted positively, but aggression knows no gender or race.
/r/EverydayMisandry19/02/26 09:38 PM
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There's a reason it makes the news when it happens, because it almost never happens. You don't see headlines of things that happen all the time. "We go now live to Sandy Thompson where we are just hearing that a cyclist ran a stop sign and...oh sorry Sandy I'm just getting word that a dog owner did not, I repeat did not pick up after their dog."
/r/EverydayMisandry19/02/26 04:08 PM
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You already see it in the context of domestic violence. Man hits woman? "THAT MONSTER!" Woman hits man? "Well there's probably more to the story, I wonder what he did that got her so mad." Woman shoots her husband in his sleep? "He was probably abusing her and she felt she needed to do it to escape."
/r/EverydayMisandry15/02/26 01:59 PM
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Racists are no different. White person murders someone? It's because he's a bad person. Black person murders someone? Its because he's black.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/02/26 12:43 PM
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Not only that, but I have been abused by women, I don't project that onto women. I hate those women. I'll even forgive them if they ask for it, but I don't fear or distrust women because of the actions of those women. People just think it's ok to be bigoted against men and have the nerve to act like they have the moral high ground.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/02/26 08:59 PM
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I challenge you to make a statement on TwoX about "how can we, as women, be better on ____". Start the timer on your ban.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:34 PM
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I haven't seen anything that says that, but if you saw a man slap a woman and he blamed it on hormones would you say "oh well in that case..."?
/r/EverydayMisandry11/02/26 08:30 PM
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That's a really apt comparison. Some people truly don't recognize that they are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:22 PM
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I have a hunch that that is 90% of the posts about "weaponized incompetence". Was he actually doing them wrong? Or was he just not doing them your way? Did he stop doing chores because he "refuses to learn", or was he doing them right all along and got fed up being talked down to?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:48 PM
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Sometimes not even marriage. I thought my ex was the most wonderful woman in the world, then we moved in together. Then I was stupid, couldn't even wash dishes "properly" because I did them "in the wrong order". She had her friends over one night and said basically "ugh, men, he can't even do dishes properly" so I opened the cupboards and said "ok, which were done by you, and which were done by me? Can you tell the difference?" Later on it was "you embarrassed me in front of my friends". No, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:34 PM
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"It's hormones!" Testosterone is a hormone. Testosterone causes aggression. Is violence done by men excusable because of hormones? No? Then neither is any action done by women.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/02/26 11:11 AM
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But you are perfectly willing to be sexist, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:34 PM
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Do you also base your fear of someone on race? You wouldn't want to be a hypocrite, would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:50 AM
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Only bigots.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:34 AM
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Oh I'm sure you shall. It's always used to blame men and never praise them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:35 PM
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Thank you for this response, I've saved it. Next time I see "Not all men, but always a man" in regards to something bad you can jump in to say "women do it too!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:05 PM
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I'm very curious about the colour of the sky on the planet you're from. On Earth, in North America, women can get away with abusing men and the general public will ask what he did to deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:03 PM
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No, in fact it is factually true that most women that are sexually assaulted are assaulted by men. Most false accusations are by women. Most gropings are by men. Most child abuse is by women. Around and around we go trying to point the finger at the group and not the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:34 PM
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Off of her child.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:30 PM
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Men are responsible for 90% of bystander rescues. Women absolutely do things like this. Women commit murder. Men just do more of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:29 PM
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And men behave heroically. You've no doubt seen the phrase "not all men, but always a man", correct? Yes, that's true, when applied to selfless acts of heroism for strangers. Show me a video of a woman jumping into a river to rescue some stranger's child. You won't, because you can't. If men can get collective blame men deserve collective praise. Thank goodness for men. I dare you to challenge me on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:20 PM
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Correct. I have dated terrible, abusive women, but I do not believe this is a trait unique to women. My girlfriend is a woman, I don't treat her as a threat because of how I was abused by women. She's her own person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:12 PM
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There's also the fact that in that same year that 1,600 women were murdered by partners, the number for men was 1,000. So while yes, more women were murdered, the gap isn't that big. For every 3 dead women there were 2 dead men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/26 01:11 PM
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I always say attack the words and actions, not the person. When you attack the person they rightly feel the need to protect themselves. But what's more, when you attack the person, all the people in that "group" are attacked. Ugly, small penis, short, fat, man, woman, black, white, it's all the same. I've volunteered with youth for a lot of years and encountered many that were brought up in bigoted households, I've found the best way to deal with it is to lead the horse to water. Sure, you can't…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/26 03:52 PM
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I'd also like to see r/menwomenandbystanders. There was a video posted not long ago of a man chasing a woman with a machete, the title was something like "man attacks woman with machete but is stopped by bystanders". All of those heroes that risked their lives were men. But no, villains can be gendered, victims can be gendered, but if the heroes are all men? Not gendered.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/02/26 03:02 PM
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One in which men occupy all the bottom rungs of society? The homeless, suicides, victims of violent crime, workplace fatalities, the list goes on, but basically almost every group you don't want to be a part of is men. A few people at the top being men doesn't negate that. So no, we don't live in a patriarchal society. "The patriarchy" either doesn't exist, or its so useless at giving men privilege that it might as well not exist. Take your pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:43 PM
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"Through the roof, because I'm one hell of a catch. Unfortunately for you, I'm the one that got away." Her, years later: "where are all the good men?!?!" Honey, they're with the good women.
/r/EverydayMisandry29/01/26 03:29 PM
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You made no mention of women discriminating against men outside of saying they did it in "retaliation", which would mean its still men's fault. Your point is very clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:31 PM
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I agree it's a myth, men don't expect women to be subservient and move any more than women expect it from men. There's just people that are entitled jerks, and they come in both male and female of all model years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:40 PM
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Asia is the continent, not just the southeast. And I fully understand that you cannot relate to being expected to stand in the snow, but in climates that get it, there are women that expect men to go around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:49 PM
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That's the point though, men are also expected to accommodate women. Give up their seat, move out of the way, etc. Entitlement is not a gendered behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:45 PM
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It's so ludicrous, like people say "you can't be sexist against men, just prejudiced". Like even if that were true, which of course it isnt, that's your defense? "I only took silver in the 'shitty human being Olympics'"? Either way I'm neither sexist nor prejudiced so I'm still a better person than you, what's your brag?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/26 03:41 PM
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For us older folks, what exactly is a SEA?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:36 PM
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Why do you give women the benefit of the doubt and not men? I've only experienced it from women, does that make it ok for me to do it to women? People say "misandry is a response to misogyny", well now you've just justified misogyny in response to misandry. The fact is that entitlement knows no gender, plenty of women expect men to move out of their way, just as the opposite happens. For some reason you seem to think one is ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:35 PM
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Because it's not? You just haven't experienced it as a man because you're a woman. If you expect men to listen to women then extend men the same courtesy. Women have expected me to move, into mud and snow, because they didn't want to suffer walking single file for a few steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:09 PM
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That's just it, you've never experienced being expected to move as a man. That's the point, its not gendered. It's just entitled people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:08 AM
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That's the point, fathers want time with their kids, fathers fought for shared custody to be the default, feminists fought against those laws. If women getting default custody of children is "patriarchy" and there was legislation that would "smash the patriarchy", why did feminists fight tooth and nail on the side of "the patriarchy"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/26 07:05 PM
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Filed under "things that never happened". I've been on the elevator and had it stop at the second floor for someone to go to ground. I mentally groaned, sure, but nobody would tell someone to take the stairs.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/01/26 03:54 PM
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I appreciate your post. I've been abused by women. Do I hate them? Of course! Those women, not women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/26 12:59 PM
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I think neither should be, currently one is forced in while the other can opt out. It's one or the other, both or neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:59 PM
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I think that women should be treated identically to men, so for that to happen either a woman should have to identify the father and he is given the option to take the child, or that men can abandon their parental responsibilities regardless of the mother's wishes, as women currently can. Personally I think children would do better with parents that want to be parents, not ones forced to be. Hence why men and women should be able to opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 04:51 PM
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How do we charge women that aren't even required to identify themselves under Safe Haven laws?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 04:21 PM
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We could stop her by requiring ID and garnishing her wages for the next 18 years like we do to men, but as you said two wrongs don't make a right. Far better that we just give men the same option to legally walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 04:18 PM
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The existence of kids in those groups does not negate the fact that kids that were abandoned by their mothers exist. Should we garnish a mother's salary to pay for the foster care system? Or maybe just give men equal reproductive rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:20 PM
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The main thing being that the mother has no obligation to even let the father know he is a father. If a woman wants a baby and the man doesn't, he can't abandon it without her knowing. But she can. So if a woman can sign away parental responsibilities without the consent of the father, we must allow men to do the same. That's equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:10 PM
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That's the whole issue, even if the mother knows who the father is, she has no obligation to tell him. Obviously that's just biology, but that's also why we need reproductive rights for men. If we allow women to walk away without the OK of the father, we must allow men to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:07 PM
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Perhaps I was mistaken, I thought you were against men being able to unilaterally surrender their parental obligations without the consent or even knowledge of the mother. Im glad I was incorrect and you do indeed think men should have equal reproductive rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 10:55 PM
1

So women can walk away, and men can't. Glad we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 10:38 PM
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I'd recommend looking into how many kids are in the foster care system. Women have choices, men have obligations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:35 PM
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And if the father isn't found the mother simply pays child support to the foster system, or face jail, right? I agree with you that children shouldn't be abandoned, but if they are the consequences shouldn't be gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:30 PM
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So you oppose Safe Haven laws? Or demand that the father consents before the child is given up?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:11 PM
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Article after article: "men are awful" "men are awful but feminism can help" "men are awful, feminism is trying to help them by blaming all of them for everything bad", "why are young men anti-feminist?" I have been in a couple abusive relationships (thankfully in a wonderful one now), but that was just such a common theme. They would degrade me, tell me I couldn't even do dishes right (they were spotless), do the "useless man" thing when she had friends over, say she did more work around the ho…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 12:01 AM
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Exactly, it's a silly argument to have. Men commit more violent crime, men perform more bystander rescues. Men and women don't deserve praise or criticism, only individuals do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:42 PM
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They don't want to acknowledge that there is no punching up or down when it comes to gender, they want free reign when it comes to their bigotry. White supremacists don't say "I'm the bad guy", they say "it's ok because I have statistics/reasons/lived experiences" whatever you want to call it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 08:41 PM
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Well I guess when you put it that way...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:16 PM
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Your post disagrees with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:12 PM
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I understand the woman, or women, in the room with me, because they are speaking and I am listening. Do you listen to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:09 PM
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The fact that when feminists say that women getting custody almost by default is "patriarchy", and yet when men's groups get legislation drafted and put before the governing body, feminists fight tooth and nail against it should tell you all you need to know. "Women being seen as caregivers is oppression!" Bullshit. The simple fact is that, this may be a shocker so brace yourselves, but: PARENTS WANT TIME WITH THEIR CHILDREN. Obviously it's rare for both parents to be in the same room for first …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 02:32 PM
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Show me articles on "how do we fix women?" and #womenaretrash trending and you might have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 03:56 PM
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Your point was clear, just incorrect. Society views collective praise for men as misogyny, but collective praise for women as well-deserved.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 03:53 PM
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Indeed. I try and offer as much help to "incel" types, both men and women, as best as I can, but some people just truly view the world with a sense of entitlement. Like, when was the last time you really, truly, took a deep and critical look at yourself? When was the last time you did anything to improve yourself just for the sake of improving yourself? When was the last time you performed a task or helped your community with no thought of reward? People that do these things tend not to be singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 03:13 PM
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I used to work with a perpetually single woman, and she would constantly rant about how she can't find a "good man". She was basically a stereotype, a complete slob, her workplace was always a mess, overweight, expected things to be done for her (I'm tall so I had to reach things, I can't think of a single instance of her doing something for me), she did not take my rejecting her advances well. Close to the end of my time there (very terrible workplace for a lot of reasons) she was on her rant a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:57 PM
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Man hits wife: "He's a monster!" (Rightly so) Woman hits husband: "Well he must have done something..." Woman murders husband: "He must have been abusive and she felt forced to do this, she doesn't deserve prison."
/r/EverydayMisandry17/01/26 02:41 PM
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Unfortunately it's hard to avoid. #menaretrash was trending on twitter, whenever a woman is murdered by a man, despite it being extremely rare, articles flood the media about "how do we address how awful men are?!", casual comments of "if women ran the world it would be a better place", phrases like "toxic masculinity" but never "toxic femininity". The misandry is pretty hard to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:10 PM
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Which results in said men instantly being call misogynists, what's your point? I've yet to see praise for women as a group be called misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:01 PM
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While I have, and would again, intervened, it is getting harder and harder to be empathetic with all the casual misandry and the people that make excuses for it. There's no excuse for bigotry, period. There's a reason why its a common superhero trope that they help and help and help but still get hated. Are the lights on? Did you turn on the shower and hot water came out? Watch a video of "child/dog/cat rescued from river/burning building/rubble". What's the phrase? "It's not all men, but it's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:39 PM
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Have you just...not seen the reaction from feminists to advancements in equality when equality would favour men and come at the expense of female privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:58 PM
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It's like when men say "I don't worry about false accusations of rape or harassment because I don't rape or harass women". Like, dude, if you did those things, and got accused, that would be a true accusation. What makes it a false accusation is when you didn't do it but get accused anyway.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/01/26 06:50 PM
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Ask men what they have to do at age 18, and women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:53 PM
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You're cool with FGM, got it. I disagree, but at least you're consistent, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 10:02 PM
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So that's a no on feminism being pro-equality. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:57 PM
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Can you give a single example of feminism being pro-equality when equality would come at the expense of female privilege? Just one will do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:51 PM
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You mentioned women's subjugation was tied to no control of their bodies. Men's bodies are also not in their control. How is this hard to understand? Is FGM just a parent's "choice"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:17 PM
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Do those vegan groups claim to fight to end racism, and that anti-racist groups should just call themselves vegan? But I'm glad we agree that feminism is just about what's best for women, I just wish they'd stop saying "it's about equality". It's fine to have a focus, but feminists have a history of getting in the way of equality when equality would benefit men or come at the expense of female privilege. Hence why anyone who is pro-equality is by default anti-feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:14 PM
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Which is why gynocentrism is a thing. Sure, there are downsides to being born a woman, but there's a whole lot of privileges that come with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:24 PM
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Not red pill, I just judge groups based on what the actually do, instead of what they say they do. I'm assuming you are anti-slavery and pro-individual rights and are therefore a staunch Republican supporter? Or are you against those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:40 PM
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So either patriarchy doesn't exist or its so ineffective at privileging men as a group that it might as well not exist. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:37 PM
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So you'd also call men subjugated, yes? You wouldn't want to be a hypocrite, would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:44 PM
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I'm anti-feminist because I'm pro-equality. Any time men's issues get brought up feminists say "not enough hours in the day", "we've got our hands full", but as soon as men's groups get legislation drafted that would be equality, suddenly feminist groups have all the time in the world to fight...against equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:39 PM
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Does the existence of men's issues make men subjugated? A simple yes or no will do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:33 PM
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Are men subjugated by the draft? By male genital mutilation being legal?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:32 PM
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Which, in the west, would hinge on women being subjugated. Which they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:25 PM
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Thank you for this, it's the best way to put it. When I was dating I was catfished a couple of times and got accused of being "fatphobic". No, you're just not the person in your pictures and I'm not going to start a relationship based on a lie, how would I ever be able to trust you when the first thing you've shown me is that you're comfortable lying to get what you want? Me rejecting them doesn't make me an asshole, if I had put "no fat chicks" or "no trannies" in my profile absolutely would. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:20 PM
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Boys who were raped have been ordered to pay child support so I really don't know where they get this idea.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/26 05:30 PM
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Not nearly enough to get power and clean water flowing in time, but go on. It's just hilarious when some people talk about a world without men being better when in reality most people would be dead. My girlfriend doesn't pay me in vagina any more than I pay her in penis, what are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:09 PM
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Right? Like within hours the power and water are off and not coming back anytime soon, but hey, go for a run at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:00 PM
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They sure exist when the power goes out in an ice storm. But then they aren't men, they are power line workers. All of the posts you see about "what would women do in a world without men?" and the answers are basically describing a utopia, the actual answer is "dead within a week".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:06 PM
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When I was dating it was based on interaction. Talked and engaged? You get a formal "I'm sorry but I don't see this going anywhere, but I wish you nothing but the best". If every response I got was "good" "ok" then like ok bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:45 PM
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"Let me, a white person, tell you, a black person, what it's like to be black!" I listen to everyone, I only ask is that I be listened to as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/12/25 04:07 PM
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So in the UK it's 2:1 as opposed to 1.6:1 in the US. Not exactly a huge difference, and certainly not one that justifies treating domestic violence as gendered when it clearly is not. Homelessness, suicide, and workplace deaths are FAR more gendered than domestic violence. Should all our tax funding go to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 07:27 PM
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And feminists can stop saying "it's about equality".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:49 PM
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This time can feminists just stay out of the way of progress on men's issues? Pretty please?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:47 PM
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In 2021 1,600 women were murdered by intimate partners according to the FBI. That same year, 1,000 men were murdered by theirs. A difference? Of course. But keep in mind that means that for every 3 women murdered by a partner there were 2 men. The rates are similar for all forms of domestic violence. Some people compare a woman being in a relationship to hopping into a lion cage. Man or bear? Forget the bear, know what kills wayyyyyy more women than men? That cheeseburger you had for lunch. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:45 PM
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Exactly, mom hits dad? Dad yells at mom? That becomes a "normal" relationship. It's absolutely a cycle.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/12/25 06:38 PM
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Men go one of two ways when hurt and left to heal alone. We pull ourselves together and resolve to help and make sure nobody ever feels like we felt, sometimes exhausting ourselves through helping. The other path leads to "I suffered pain, nobody was there, or just told me to suck it up, the world owes me a debt of pain." Trust me, my friends, option A is the path. Helping people will help you so much. Take someone's cart back for them. Volunteer at the food bank, hell I'm happy just sorting can…
/r/MensRights26/12/25 05:00 PM
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You also treat people based on race, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:08 AM
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This isnt a gendered thing, but if someone tells you they have a bad ex, they have a bad ex. If someone tells you they have a couple bad exes, they have a couple bad exes. If all their exes were bad, run. If I bumped into 90% of my exes on the street we'd have a friendly catch up. There's 2 that I never want to see again.
/r/EverydayMisandry23/12/25 04:00 PM
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The US. Where the FBI is. I feel like you're just not very well informed on this. Perhaps educate yourself next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:26 PM
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What dystopian hellscape do you live in? In 2021, just over 1,600 women were murdered by their partners, and just over 1,000 men, as per the FBI.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:39 PM
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One can't say "men are worse" or "women are worse" overall. Men commit 100% of PIV rape, women commit 100% of paternity fraud. What's worth acknowledging is how people will manipulate statistics to fit a narrative. You may hear "women are 5x as likely to be murdered by a partner than a man!" and that is true, if you play with the numbers. 30% of murdered women are murdered by partners, whereas 6% of murdered men are. 6 x 5 = 30 so the math checks out. Except men are murdered far more often than …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 03:17 PM
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We're not allowed to cross post here, but if you check out a sub called thetinmen he has a post with all the data. Or just YouTube "child rescued from river" or any bystander rescues and count the men:women ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:15 PM
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Misandry is far more deeply rooted than mean words on the internet. Ask the men of Ukraine, where women were permitted to flee but men were forced to stay. Ask the half of victims of domestic violence who receive no funding, no shelters, just because they are men. Ask the 12 year old boys that are not allowed to stay in women's shelters. Ask why we have government positions for women's equality but men's. Why is domestic violence, which again is gender neutral, treated as gendered, but things li…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:08 PM
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I just believe that if men are expected to share collective blame they should also receive collective praise. As a man, I'm exactly as responsible for the Bondi shooting as I am for the heroic takedown. Just as I'm exactly as responsible for a woman being kidnapped as I am for a child being pulled from a river. Me being a man makes no difference, my involvement was 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 11:26 PM
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Men perform 91% of bystander rescues, so if the topic is heroism the phrase "not all men, but it's always a man" applies exactly as it does when talking about crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 11:15 PM
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I envy your ability to enter the minds of others and determine their motivations, Professor X. Can you enter my mind and explain how while I've been abused by women, I still am able to not be a misogynist? Further, why can't those women do the same? Are men just more compassionate?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 10:40 PM
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Well at least you're consistent. Personally I think it's odd to be afraid of someone killing you when there's a less than 1% chance of it happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:48 PM
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Well at least you're consistent. I see far too many people saying bullshit like "misandry is justified". Like, nope. No it is not. Not any more so than misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:46 PM
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What? They're in my cooking classes. Did you maybe misread what I said?
/r/EverydayMisandry17/12/25 08:43 PM
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For the record, is it ok for me to feel 0 empathy for misandric women? If she's lonely, depressed, feels cast out by society, but tweeted "men are trash" or "I choose the bear" I should not hope her life improves?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:30 PM
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For any young man that might be scared off by posts like these, I volunteer a lot and work with a lot of kids. Teaching cooking classes, sports, even at the food bank parents let their kids help out. I promise you, don't let shit like this discourage you. 99% of parents see a positive male role model, as 99% of us are, and feel gratitude. Yes, there is the 1% looking at you. But that kid running up to you at the library asking if you'll do the voices or the mother that gets passed some homemade …
/r/EverydayMisandry16/12/25 10:34 PM
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We most certainly are, men do not abuse women at rates any different than women abusing men. Ergo women have no reason to fear men any more than men should fear women. If in a population of 350,000,000, 1,600 were eaten by tigers, and 1,000 were eaten by lions, would you say "people should be living in terror of tigers, but lions are ok"? Either women should not be afraid of men, or men should be afraid of women. Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:19 PM
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And yet male violence against women and female violence against men is almost the same. What's your point? That men are at far more risk? Yes, that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:01 PM
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Why would a man risk his life dating a woman? Again, the ratio of dead women murdered by men to dead men murdered by women is 3:2. A discrepancy? Sure. An epidemic? Worth gendering the issue? Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:35 PM
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So you oppose Safe Haven laws, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:22 PM
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About 90%, of which men are about 90% of victims. In terms of IPV men and women are of course equal, and intimate partner murders occur at a rate of 1.6:1. So for every 3 women murdered by a partner, there are 2 men. Do men commit more violent crime? Yes. Against women? Nope. Gender violence is equal, male violence is mostly against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 01:15 AM
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Not all men remain restrained, between suicide and violent outbursts men lead the charge. I volunteer with an organization at my local library, it gives me a lot of joy but it's heartbreaking sometimes hearing my co-volunteers just casually putting down men as a group. My girlfriend urged me to speak up and all that happened is that the room gets quiet when I walk in.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/12/25 09:34 PM
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I always laugh at the "insecure" accusations. When I was dating I had a simple rule, no exes as friends. I've never known exes who stay "friends" to not hook up, so that's just a hard no. I'm plenty secure, I'm just setting boundaries and rejecting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:33 AM
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And this is all before even getting into the truly dark side of male behavior, abuse, coercion, assault That's people behavior, not male. It's like saying that laughing is male behavior. Nope, women do it in droves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:27 AM
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It's odd that they take that line of thinking though, isn't it? They just justified misogyny. After all, if a young man experiences misandry, is he not justified in misogyny? "...that's different!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/25 08:39 PM
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Does being anti-republican make you pro-slavery? After all, Lincoln was a republican. Or can we just accept that past goods of a group don't excuse present wrongs? It's awesome that feminists got women the right to vote, it's disgusting that current feminist organizations lobby to ban accusations of parental alienation from family courts. Odd that they zeroed in on a form of child abuse committed almost exclusively by mothers. I'm proudly pro-equality, and I'm proudly anti-feminist. Those two ar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/25 01:49 PM
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Quietly glossing over the fact that he bought the product he was asked to buy. If you asked for dish soap, and I brought home toilet paper, you would have a legitimate complaint. If you asked for dish soap, and wanted Palmolive, and I brought home Dawn, you would not. That is what happened here. You would think a self proclaimed blue pill woman would listen to women, but apparently in the case of a woman admitting she was the one in the wrong you'll make an exception. Oh, by the way, I'm a chef …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:59 PM
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Glad to know you've never been asked to get something, got that something, and were belittled because it was the "wrong" thing, even though it was the thing. There is indeed a useless person in all this, but spoilers: it's you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 11:36 AM
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...by a woman that owned up and admitted she was abusive, yes. Maybe next time you skim things try to understand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:15 AM
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What a disgusting observation to a man being belittled and abused. She recognized that she was in the wrong, why can't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:58 PM
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That's a whole lot of words to admit you think some types of bigotry are ok. I disagree, but that's because I'm just a good person. You know, not a bigot. Women fear men bc statistically men are the ultimate predators of women. Fact. White supremacists use the same logic. Maybe try and evolve your thinking beyond them. If a person were to say "I don't feel as safe around black people as I do around white people", would you say "well that makes sense", or would you say "you're racist, your averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:56 PM
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Speaking as someone that has experienced this, sometimes the complaints are simply ridiculous, and then the person making them does indeed break up "out of nowhere". I was told that I folded shirts wrong, even though I fold them like (I thought) everyone else does, into a square. She folded them in to rectangles. I never complained about my shirts being folded into rectangles, if they were clean, folded, and put away then awesome, one less chore for me. But she insisted that my way of folding wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:43 PM
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Nothing suggests he was beating off, just passed out with his pants down with a "leave at door" instruction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:21 PM
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I'm so, so glad that people maintain "innocent until proven guilty" in sex crimes. ...when the accused is a woman. As said in the video, she was charged because police obtained independent video.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:17 PM
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I'd say incoherent drivel would be the person deciding they know someone's intentions better than the victim and the police, but sure, you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:13 PM
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Oh no, you mistake me. I'm just mocking how stupid your comment was.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:53 AM
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After she pushed his door open, is a peeping tom a victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:44 PM
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Facts don't matter, lies do, as long as it's a woman telling them. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:28 PM
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What doesn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:14 PM
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Please, please, please help this woman and get in touch with the police department that arrested her. Sure, they have all the evidence and determined she was in the wrong, but you, brave internet person, can reach through the ether and read the victim's mind, oh sorry, the perpetrator's mind, and know more than all of the people investigating. I'll end my comment here so you don't waste any more time when you must use your mind reading powers for good! Go! Go!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:51 PM
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Most women sided against Amber Heard, rightly so. There is, however, the "betraying the sisterhood" factor. I hope stories like this continue to push the younger generations away from the "men have it good but are bad, women have it bad but are good" bullshit. It's why I laugh when I see articles going "why is Gen Z pro-equality but won't call themselves feminists? It must be Andrew Tate." No, the problem is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:47 PM
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I'll see if I can find a link but there's a similar story that happened years ago in the UK. A man's house backed onto a wooded ravine, and in the morning he would make a tea and sip it while looking out the back door. One morning, to his surprise, a woman and a young child go running through his backyard. Turns out the kid missed the school bus so mom decided to cut through the yards to get to the next stop. You'd think the mom would be embarrassed and go "sorry! sorry!" but no, she called the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:43 PM
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Please call the local police department right away, they need to hear this. Sure, with all their evidence they determined he was passed out drunk and she opened his door despite the "leave at door" instructions, but now they have you! The mind reader that knows that no person falling down drunk starts taking their pants off and passes out on their couch! Get in touch with them! Right away before she goes to trial for pushing his door open and filming him!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:37 PM
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Same with the "wage gap".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:34 PM
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Exactly, they're afraid of "betraying the sisterhood". My girlfriend had to support Amber Heard during the whole thing despite coming home and saying she's a monster, but all her coworkers took her side so she had to as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:30 PM
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The fact that she flat out claimed TikTok was pulling her videos down so they wouldn't pay her was a giveaway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:27 PM
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If you leave your door any level of ajar whilst half naked and expecting someone to knock at saud door Except he specified to leave at door, not knock. Pretty simple. She wasn't in the wrong. She was. She opened a door and filmed a person in their home without their consent. She's worse than a peeping tom because she even posted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:24 PM
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This feels like the updated 1990’s trope of “what was she wearing?” that actually WAS ASKED at rape trials. So to ask “was the door open?” makes sense that that is just where we are as a society right now. Just wait until you listen to male victims of domestic violence. "What did he do?" Victim blaming is never ok, and people rushing to blame this man are disgusting. With all due respect, and frankly, not much is due but it just needs to be understood by people who make such requests or “dares,”…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:21 PM
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Where is said photo? It would completely change my stance on this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:00 PM
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How in the world was she judged too harshly for filming a sleeping person in the nude and claiming to be a victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 09:30 PM
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My first recipe was a cake. Cake needs flour, eggs, sugar, salt, baking powder, cocoa powder, and milk. So I just added them to a bowl and mixed, then baked. I was 5 so I just was throwing things at random into a bowl. There was probably 1/2 cup of salt in there, it was disgusting. You learn by failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:37 PM
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Thank goodness you agree that is was wrong to judge this man guilty. Now, go tell TwoX. You still haven't proven me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:52 PM
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Pizzadare Edit: know what, strike that, I had seen it but it looks like it's been taken down. Good on you, Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:51 PM
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Odd that with all the evidence, she was the one arrested, no? If a man peeped on a woman and posted it would you call him the victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:27 PM
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There's literally a sub dedicated to women who are conscious answering the door naked, "accidently" dropping their towel, none of them have been arrested. This is about a woman filming a sleeping half naked man and claiming to be the victim of sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:25 PM
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I'm a chef, the amount of times I've both said and heard "can I show you a trick" I literally couldn't count. At the end of the day though, if I slice onions then carrots, and you slice carrots and then onions, and the soup tastes the same, who cares? Heck, when I play hockey I always put my right skate on before my left, I wouldn't see someone putting their left skate on and go "you're doing it wrong!!!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:21 PM
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This has been my experience as well. I take accusations of misogyny with a grain of salt, hammer and nail and all that. The vast, vast majority of men and women are just average, decent people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:12 PM
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Or maybe that men need literal video evidence to prove a lie and even still people will believe the woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:08 PM
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You can prove that I'm not right in one easy step: post on TwoX that this case shows we need to take accusations with a grain of salt and not automatically believe to woman. Go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:50 PM
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They were made aware, denied it, the police chose instead to follow the evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:45 PM
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I don't care to make a post in a sub I don't frequent so that you can feel better. Next time just say "I know you're right, so I won't even bother to make a bit of effort to prove you wrong."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:32 PM
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What exactly did I not read? TwoX was vocal when she was the victim, silent when it turned out it was him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:30 PM
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Not often the police arrest an charge someone for getting flashed, but we'll see at the trial.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:17 PM
8

So prove me wrong, post about how evidence lead to her arrest and start a discussion about holding women accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:15 PM
8

I made note that the largest women's community talked about the man when they believed he was the perpetrator, but fell silent when he was the victim. You can't demand men police men and refuse to do the same with women. But you can prove me wrong, go on and make a post condemning her and other women that lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:13 PM
7

It's in the possession of the police, but it seems damning enough to charge her on multiple felonies. We'll see how it plays out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:11 PM
8

Except I do know what I'm talking about? Did you even read my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:09 PM
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"I have no idea what I'm talking about but I'm going to talk anyway" TwoX refers to TwoXChromosomes, it's a default sub with millions of subscribers centering on women. There were posts condemning the man, now that he's the victim, nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:03 PM
8

Oh thank goodness, can you link some calling her out? It would definitely prove me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:42 PM
10

There was discussion calling him guilty, nothing about him being innocent. Again, no accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:41 PM
9

Nothing since she was charged. Go on, make a post about not jumping to conclusions. I note that you haven't done that yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:16 PM
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So far the only ones I've seen are taking her side, got anything to the contrary? I'd definitely love to see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:05 PM
1

I think what we really need is a term for when there is competence, but criticism gets levelled all the same. For example, I had an ex insist that I did the dishes wrong because I did them "in the wrong order". They were clean, left to dry, and put away, why did she care what order I did them in. Another insisted that I folded shirts wrong, as I fold them in a square shape and she does hers in a rectangle. One day in a store we pass by a shirt rack, all in squares since that's how (I thought) ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:33 PM
5

Could the problem be with us blaming everything bad on men? No, it's the who are wrong for being pissed at getting blamed for things that they didn't do.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/11/25 05:05 PM
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"Women, am I right? We all agree that women are awful or you suffer from fragile femininity and are part of the problem! Now, on to our next issue, blacks..." Oh wait...is bigotry simply wrong? No, it's my targets who are wrong.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/11/25 11:14 PM
2

Gosh I'd love to see examples of feminist talks canceled in the last 20 years because of bomb threats. Seems to only go one way. Almost like there's a gender based hate group out there....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 09:20 PM
2

Are you high? Men call out men all the time! Or do you want us to call out men as a group? That's where the objection lies. Women are false accusers, why don't women call out women for being false accusers? Oh, right, most women aren't. So if i were to make the statement "don't you just hate how women are false accusers and women don't call each other out on it" would your response be "you're right, ladies we need to do better"? Again, the issue is that you framed something as a gendered issue w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:28 PM
2

And what was my next sentence? Jeez for someone complaining about people not reading posts...glass houses.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:12 PM
1

Exactly! If only feminists would stop standing against equality we'd have a shot!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:28 AM
1

Getting offended? I'm not offended, just laughing at bullshit. Like, what would you say to someone saying women are gross because they poop? "Oh that's a valid point, I guess we are gross", or "what are you talking about? Men poop too, men are just as gross"? I'd even wager you'd call the person a misogynist for singling women out for a behavior that men are just as guilty of.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 08:17 PM
2

Men are taking action, they just get met with everything from blocking doors to conferences to bomb threats. Men have opened shelters, men have drafted legislation, the problem is they are up against the establishment, the hate movement called "feminism". Don't worry, lots of men and women dedicated to equality will continue to take legal action on behalf of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 08:13 PM
2

I never denied that men engage in that behavior, just that it's odd to gender a behavior that isn't gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 06:51 PM
3

You gendered a non-gendered issue. It would be like saying "women are gross because they poop". Like, yeah, so do men. "Oh now you're playing the victim! No, just correcting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 06:49 PM
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Exactly, the action is conferences, some of which are canceled because of bomb threats from feminists. Men's groups in Florida got default 50/50 custody bills put to a vote, NOW took action to oppose them, ("No! Not that kind of equality!") Sadly, they were successful. Look up CAFE or Earl Silverman, look at the reaction to the documentary "The Red Pill". People very much are taking action, but feminism is the establishment now, so it take years of continuing to work. Thankfully, as I mentioned,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 06:46 PM
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Your post is implying that men play the victim and blame women. The other commenter was simply pointing out that the inverse is true. Go to TwoX, half of the front page is "women have it bad and it's mens' fault!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:44 PM
1

I was more speaking to fewer and fewer people buying into feminist ideology, despite believing in equality. If one party was saying "everything bad is women's fault!" And the other said "nah, there's nothing wrong with women. We won't do anything to help women, but we won't blame everything on you". I know which party women would vote for. Edit to add: men absolutely do give two shits, look at men's rights talks, and look at how they get responded to. Again, the feminist narrative is far more do…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:35 PM
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I'd say it more goes to show that while men are pissed about how awful society treats them, feminists still control the dominant narrative and shame men for speaking out. Look at all the "why is gen Z pro-equality but won't call themselves feminists? It must be those damn Andrew Tate types, warping their minds!" Like, they are pro-equality, just anti-feminist, maybe the problem lies with feminists? Maybe young men don't like hearing that they are privileged when they've never experienced it? See…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:20 PM
1

So, just so we're clear, you oppose Safe Haven laws?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:39 PM
2

Even if this were a true story, which I don't for a moment believe it is, as men's shelters are...non-existent, don't these types typically expect, nay, demand that men be allies to women's issues? Why can't men expect the same of women?
/r/EverydayMisandry24/11/25 08:50 PM
1

Exactly, I play hockey, if every hockey player a woman dated abused her, I could understand her not wanting to be with me even though it's a generalization. It has been said before, it will be said again, you are not entitled to a relationship, and a relationship can be ended at any time for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:32 PM
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There are also men that avoid sluts out of bad experiences. I want a monogamous relationship and any "slut" I've dated ended up cheating. So it's a red flag. It's like when someone, man or woman, describes all their exes as "crazy" or "controlling". One or two? Sure. All of them? Maybe, but odds are the problem was you. So when a potential partner says she had a "slut phase" I politely tell her I'm not interested. It's not insecurity, I just learned from experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 01:49 PM
3

I've also that women are held accountable than men. Like, what colour is the sky on your planet?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/25 03:31 PM
2

If anyone is artistically inclined (I, unfortunately, am not), we could flood their mail with doodles done up for them, then they'd really have no excuse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/25 01:43 PM
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They'll also claim that men get harsher sentences because they are more likely to reoffend. Like, yeah, because they are more likely to be arrested in the first place. If a man and a woman commit the exact same crime in the exact same city and the woman is given a pass but the man is arrested, convicted, and serves his time, then if that same two people go and commit the crime and this time the woman is arrested, it will be a first offence for her and second for him.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/25 01:37 PM
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They'll cite as male privilege that billionaires, politicians, and CEOs are all mostly men, therefore men have power. It's just as accurate as me saying men don't have power because the homeless, suicides, incarcerated, workplace deaths, basically every group you don't want to be a part of are also almost all men. Furthermore, what good does most politicians being men do for men? I've asked several people to name me a single law in the last 50 years that benefits men at the expense of women, and…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/25 01:34 PM
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It's pretty telling that when a bill comes up that would include women being included in the draft, feminist groups fight tooth and nail against it. But when the bill is struck down and the draft remains men only, suddenly it goes back to being no big deal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/25 01:31 PM
1

False. I've been told years after the fact that someone was into me, so why didn't I make the move? If she asked I would have said yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:18 PM
2

Bigotry is bigotry, no matter who it's directed at. If you judge someone based on the way they were born you are a bigot. A white person expecting a black person to cross the street or wait for the next elevator is no different than a woman expecting the same from a man. Just an FYI, white supremacists spout statistics all the time to justify their bigotry. It doesn't make them not bigots. Quit doing the exact same thing, it's not a good look.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:41 PM
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That's still at least a general precaution. Anyone behind the wheel can be dangerous. Saying "be careful around men" would be closer to "uh oh, Asian driver, be careful". Like, yeah, be careful, but be careful around everyone, not that person because they're Asian. You're also a shitty person for implying they're a danger because of how they were born.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 10:34 AM
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They need everyone to fit in an easy-to-hate box. I've been called an incel while sitting next to my girlfriend, called a Trump voter when a) I hate his guts and b) I'm Canadian, and a misogynist despite never even mentioning women in the comment they responded to, I simply said men perform the vast majority of bystander rescues, which is true. If men are expected to take responsibility for violent crime then we should be able to also take credit for selfless acts of heroism. But again, they can…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/25 03:18 PM
2

I just laughed, like I know they're both three letters but what you mean when you say you want an M-A-N what you are actually looking for is an A-T-M.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:51 PM
1

I think my favourite dating story was a woman telling me that I'm not a "real man" because I wasn't willing to take care of her and her two kids while she stayed a permanent stay at home mom. I grew up in the country in Canada, I bow hunt, I fish, I portage, I've stitched wounds, worked in emergency services, but no, I'm not a real man because I won't pay for you and your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:47 PM
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Men are the majority of the homeless, the majority of suicides, the majority of the incarcerated, the majority of workplace deaths, the list goes on. So if the "patriarchy" is set up to benefit men at the expense of women there are only two options: a) there is no patriarchy, or b) the patriarchy is so inept at it's sole purpose that it might as well not exist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/25 04:40 PM
1

"Today on does she like you or does she just want a free dinner?" "Well, she said there was this new steakhouse that she's really wanted to try..." "Oooooooooooooh" Same thing. When I was dating I would always do a walk in the park, especially if she had a dog. Or a coffee date. The second she wanted dinner at a pricey restaurant she was unmatched.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:30 PM
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Do yourself a favour and don't look up a law professor named Elizabeth Sheehy. She advocated to women to be legally allowed to murder their male partners. She argued that an abused woman killing a man is self defense. The thing is, she's Canadian. Our self defense laws here are very strict, basically you have to be about to die. One case she cited of a woman "wrongfully" imprisoned for killing her abusive husband had a) no evidence of abuse, just her word, and b) she shot him in the head while h…
/r/MensRights16/11/25 04:16 PM
13

Exactly, you'll hear often from women the precautions they take, but when men do the same apparently we're still the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 03:23 PM
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Hard disagree. You hear all the time "men are clueless, I was dropping hints". The fact is most men have been burned by thinking they were seeing hints, asking, and being shot down and mocked. So we learn our lesson and don't act on "hints". Women shooting their shot would be actually taking initiative and asking. It has happened to me, but I've had more than a few women tell me "she was totally into you" and I didn't act because I wasn't sure if she actually was.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 01:48 PM
12

Men are required in times of emergency, and then derided in times of safety. As is tradition.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/25 11:20 PM
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Not mine but sums it up well "men can share collective blame, but not collective praise. Women can share collective praise, but never collective blame." Or another one "men can be equal or worse, never better. Women can be equal or better, never worse."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/25 09:27 PM
1

Yes, ideologies can get things wrong. Catholics for example believe the Earth was created in 6 days, that one man loaded two of every animal onto a boat, and that the Earth is only 6000 years old. All of which are provably false. This is also true for the ideology of feminism. That men exist as a privileged group. This is also untrue, and just as untrue as the story of a man loading two of every animal onto a boat.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/25 09:04 PM
1

What you are missing is that men being the elite does not make men elite. More men suffer than women. It seems this "patriarchy" has failed men, so let's find a better name for it, shall we? One that doesn't imply that men have it better than women when they clearly don't?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/25 02:44 AM
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Exactly, class structure, not gender structure. Men being in positions of power does nothing for men. Name me one law passed in our lifetimes that benefits men at the expense of women. You won't because you can't. I can make just as much of an argument that men are oppressed as you can that they are privileged. Hence, not a patriarchy. Oligarchy is a much more accurate term.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/25 10:58 PM
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My claim is, and always has been, that 2% are proven false, and 3% are proven true. What is your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 10:41 PM
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I volunteer teaching kids cooking classes at my local community centre, the parents glaring at me is hard to not notice. But I'd put them at maybe 5%. I far more often get kids coming up to me asking "are you married?" and the mom turns red and yanks them away. Sorry, I'm taken, but thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 08:43 PM
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As a population? None that I'm aware of. Again, in 95% of cases, we just don't know, it could go either way. She says it was rape, he says it wasn't. All we know for sure is that we're looking at two people, one is a piece of shit that deserves prison, and one is a victim that deserves support, we just don't know which is which. Are you willing to send a rape victim to prison off of your best guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 08:38 PM
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Which was my point from the start, statistically, we'll never know. Your chances of being falsely accused or raped is completely undeterminable. People just tend to act as if false accusations almost never happen but women get raped all the time, when the numbers simply don't bear that out. Men have just as much reason to take precautions as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:53 PM
3

Not all false accusations are made to police, look at the tea app for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:40 PM
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I think you're getting the arguments confused. Men commit more violent crime than women, most of those men are raised by single moms. It makes as much sense to hold men as a group accountable as it does to hold single moms accountable, in that it makes no sense. One man is not in any way responsible for the actions of other men, just as single moms don't have to answer for other single moms. Yet men are constantly bombarded with messages that violence is somehow our problem. I can't be any less …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:38 PM
2

2% of accusations are provably false. 3% are provably true. 95%, we just don't know. If you want to extrapolate numbers it's 60/40, so while women are more likely to be raped than a man falsely accused, there isn't that much of a gap. It's as accurate to say 98% are true as it is to say 97% are false.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:33 PM
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It always astounds me when men take precautions around women and get attacked for it. There was an article that came out a year after MeToo talking about what changed, and it was mostly men avoiding being alone with women for fear of false allegations. TwoX posted it and all the comments were attacking the men saying "this is awful! It's not likely to happen! You're discriminating! You're paranoid!" And then they went right back to talking about precautions they take around men without a hint of…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:25 PM
3

You, of course, believe all men that say the accusation is false, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:18 PM
11

Women should have to sign their SSN into a database when they turn 18, and if they don't they are ineligible for multiple government programs. If the birth rate drops too low, a lottery will be done and women whose SSN's are selected and they will have to report to their closest hospital of face arrest. At the hospital they will be impregnated via IVF. Boom, birth rate solved. Don't worry ladies, it will probably never happen. Just like, you know, the draft.
/r/EverydayMisandry09/11/25 05:44 PM
3

Most have been burned by bad men and don't want to repeat that mistake. This is also why I laugh when women say "why don't men open up more?" It's not because of other men or "toxic masculinity", it's because most men have been burned by opening up so they just...don't. That's why men's spaces are so important. Men do actually open up, just not to a woman that they worry will lose respect for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:16 PM
1

Likewise there are women that aspire to be stay at home moms, in that sense, they "get to" stay home the same way some men "get to" advance their career. My point is that using "get to" to describe men going to work is just as inaccurate as saying women "get to" stay home.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 04:42 PM
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"Black people crying about getting killed by police when they commit a disproportionate amount of crime". Obviously the numbers are skewed by racism and I'm not saying they aren't, just illustrating how tone deaf the message is.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/11/25 08:37 PM
1

I'm by no means saying that being the stay at home parent is a walk in the park (well, sometimes it literally is but I mean figuratively), what I was more getting at is the phrasing of how men "get" to go to work. Like, no, most men and women don't like going to work at all, it just has to be done. People seem to treat men "advancing their careers" as some sort of Don Draper figure, sitting in their office drinking scotch, when the reality is that men are in the sewers, on fishing boats, tarring…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 04:09 PM
15

So it's B. Men as a group don't benefit, so don't name it like they do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/25 03:24 AM
38

I usually say there are two possibilities: A) There is no Patriarchy B) There is a Patriarchy, and yet it is so inept at granting men privilege that men are the majority of the homeless, the majority of suicides, the majority of the incarcerated, have no access to domestic violence shelters, vast majority of workplace deaths, basically every group that you don't want to be a part of is dominated by men. If the Patriarchy exists, it is so inept at it's job that it might as well not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/25 09:34 PM
1

People often forget that for the vast majority of men, there is no career advancement. You get a raise here and there but that's it. Add on top of that that only 25% of people even like their jobs to begin with. Of those if you asked "would you rather go to work or be at home watching your kids grow, the good, the bad, and the ugly?", how many would choose work? A non-zero number absolutely, there are men and women out there that are terrible parents. The the simple fact is for the majority of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 06:38 PM
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Gender parity was achieved in the 80s, and has only shifted since then in women's favour. The young men and women going to school today have never lived in a world where men outnumbered women. Heck, their parents didn't go to school when men outnumbered women. At this point the historical inequality is against men.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/11/25 10:17 AM
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It's hilarious to me to hear feminists say women doing most of the childcare while men work is "patriarchy" and "oppression", and that men "get to advance their careers". First, according to the bureau of labour statistics on 25% of people even like their jobs to begin with, so men don't "get to" work, they just have to. Second, if childcare is patriarchy and oppression, why do feminists fight tooth and nail against presumed shared custody bills? Wouldn't 50/50 custody be the definition of "smas…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 10:12 AM
5

I know. Not even close to all Republicans are white supremacists. This is moving the goal post. No goal posts were moved, my claim that past good actions of an ideology don't excuse subscribing to said ideology when said ideology is doing bad things currently, as feminism is doing. What do you mean by educated? Either extreme would claim to be well-educated. Feminist groups have asked the Canadian government to ban people from accusing a partner of parental alienation. Not ask for greater scruti…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/25 08:52 PM
8

You don't know all white supremacists either. I believe everyone can be educated and turned away from bigoted behaviour, but if you do your homework on feminism and the actions taken by feminist groups in recent years then you cannot call yourself a feminist and a good person. Being a good person would compel you to reject feminism and the Republican party. Again, pro-equality, anti-feminist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/25 07:35 PM
9

Can you elaborate?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/25 05:03 PM
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I always say I'm pro-equality, anti-feminist. I'm anti-feminist because feminism is anti-me. It's like saying "you can't be anti-Republican! Republicans freed the slaves!" Yeah, that was a long time ago. Republicans today are terrible people. Past goods don't excuse present wrongs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/25 01:10 PM
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Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. So if you're anti-Republican that must make you pro-slavery, right? It's not like we should judge groups on their current actions because of past goods! Right? ...right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/25 12:41 AM
1

It's astounding how often feminists claim childcare is "patriarchy" and "oppression", yet when men want 50/50 custody it's "stealing a child from the mother".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/10/25 08:46 PM
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"Men need to be quiet and listen to women when we talk about our lived experiences! Now, let me tell you what life is like for men..."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/10/25 04:45 PM
7

Well it's either "our misandry drives men away" or "men are the problem". I don't spend time at the casino but if I were putting betting odds about how to drive men away....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/25 11:49 PM
21

If they don't she'll just say it's misogyny.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/25 06:43 PM
4

I used to teach kids cooking classes and we had a vegetable garden out front. It was honestly hilarious to say "see that green thing? Pull it out." And they'd bring up a carrot with their minds blown like "that's where carrots come from?!?!" It was adorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 09:14 PM
2

How important is food though, really? We can do without to stick it to the conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:28 PM
1

People in happy, loving relationships tend not to run online and post about them. They just kind of, enjoy them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:05 PM
9

I'm a middle aged man that works with a lot of younger men and they're always asking for dating advice. It's really simple: stop focusing on getting the girl and focus on being the best version of yourself you can be. The need for instant results is what kills the attraction. You don't go to the gym for a week and become Dwayne Johnson. You work on yourself for yourself, and you never stop. Learn to cook, maybe plant a little herb garden. The big thing my girlfriend says she loves about me is my…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 09:16 PM
17

Simultaneously making fun of men for asking women what they have to offer while also making fun of men for considering themselves to be the prize. Classic.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/09/25 11:22 PM
13

Exactly. There's always the excuse of "they're physically smaller so it's on you to show restraint!" No, if I walked up to Mike Tyson and punched him and woke up in the hospital with a broken jaw nobody would lecture Mr. Tyson on how he went too far, they would say "you just walked up and punched somebody, what did you think was going to happen?" I've always said that anyone that escalates to violence loses the right to claim victimhood. You started a fight, you don't get to cry because you lost…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:40 PM
3

Man or woman, shitty people are shitty people because they keep getting away with it. Even if their abused partner finds the strength to leave them, they just find a new one. There's never the drive to improve because there's no need. It took a great mentor of mine to really drive home that self improvement is a neverending journey, but such an amazing one to be on. I was never abusive in any way, but I was your typical "nice guys finish last, woe is me" type. So I started working on myself, vol…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:57 PM
5

Someone that matches my compassion, my dorkiness, and knows what I need if I have a bad day, just as I know what she needs when she has one. So glad I found her.
/r/EverydayMisandry16/09/25 06:03 PM
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As others have said, you're looking at this through the lens that men exist as a privileged group, similar to white people or straight people. In the west, this simply and demonstrably is not the case. The common argument is "men make up the majority of millionaires, politicians, CEOs" etc. But ignores that men make up the majority of the homeless, suicides, the incarcerated, workplace deaths, those addicted to drugs and alcohol. Basically every group you don't want to be a part of is dominated …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/25 05:23 PM
17

There is a lot of talk in feminist circles about internalized misogyny in women. And yet very little (really, none at all) talk about how a better term for "toxic masculinity" would be internalized misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/25 05:15 PM
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And shop owners follow black teens around to prevent theft. Should those teens feel attacked? After all, they are not victimized.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 07:48 PM
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"If we just define 'crime' as being committed by black people, then the majority of crime will be committed by black people. Therefore white people do not commit crime." - This dumbass
/r/EverydayMisandry10/09/25 05:13 PM
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I've been called a misogynist for seeing a video of a man rescuing a child from a river and saying "men are awesome". I never said women aren't, definitely never said anything negative about women, but simple praise for men apparently counts as misogyny. Since then I've messaged that person linking them to posts saying "the future is female" or "women are badass" and saying "you're going to call this out as misandry, right? Right? ...blocked. Figures.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/25 07:32 PM
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Any time a woman says it I call her a misogynist. It's flat out saying men are far more logical and realistic than women, and I disagree. Sharks kill people every now and then, but if someone said "I don't go swimming because I'm afraid of sharks" would you think "good point, sharks do sometimes kill people", or would you think "you're nuts, the odds of that happening are miniscule"? Then factor in how many men the average woman interacts with compared to sharks and it gets even more ridiculous.
/r/EverydayMisandry04/09/25 07:53 PM
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The problem with "not all men" is that it's too gentle. What should be said is "what you just said is incredibly bigoted and sexist, you're a terrible person for having those views, no better than a white supremacist, and I hold you in the same regard as I do them. And trust me, I hate white supremacists. Grow as a person and be less of a bigoted sack of shit."
/r/EverydayMisandry26/08/25 08:20 PM
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In regards to number two, I've had discussions with feminists where I point out that feminism is not about equality, if it were, it would address men's issues. If it were about women's issues, that would be fine. Me starting a fundraiser for lung cancer research doesn't mean I don't care about heart disease. But feminism isn't about women's issues, it's about women's interests. You'll often hear from feminists when you ask them about men's issues something along the lines of "we have to make pri…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/25 07:46 PM
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Don't be sorry dude, just checking in. I hope things pick up for you. Do your best to focus on the things going right, and how to change the things going wrong, but know how to recognize when there's things you can't change. If I could recommend some reading material, the Roman emperor Marcus Aurelius wrote a collection of thoughts and it's a book called "Meditations". It's really insightful. One of my favourite lines is "you have power over your mind, not outside events. Realize this, and you w…
/r/EverydayMisandry25/08/25 07:10 PM
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3 words will make a pro-choice person spew pro-life rhetoric: "male reproductive rights". Then they're all "if he didn't want to be a father he should have kept it in his pants!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/25 07:02 PM
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Hey man, just checking in again. How was your day today?
/r/EverydayMisandry22/08/25 03:44 AM
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Hey man, just checking in. I had a bonkers night at work! Don't know what time zone you're in so I hope this doesn't wake you. Please let me know how you're feeling when you get this. DM me if you want. I've been in a dark place too so we can chat however makes you feel comfortable.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/08/25 06:50 AM
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Nice, that all sounds awesome! What are your favourite movies? I'll admit the only things I really read are cookbooks but cooking is basically my life. What do you like to read?
/r/EverydayMisandry20/08/25 03:40 PM
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Nice! What are you taking? What places do you like going to? Like locations or restaurants or libraries? When you have a day off where's your go-to place?
/r/EverydayMisandry20/08/25 03:24 PM
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You can talk to me any time, my man. It can be a lot, I know. But the best solution is to focus on your hobbies. What makes you happy? Personally I love cooking, being outdoors, and nature documentaries. Can you tell me about some of your hobbies? What's a skill you want to learn?
/r/EverydayMisandry20/08/25 03:18 PM
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Republicans claim to be about individual rights and small government. Sometimes you judge a group by what it does, not by what it says it does. Feminist groups have fought against equality when equality would benefit men or come at the expense of female privilege.
/r/EverydayMisandry16/08/25 09:22 PM
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"Not all men are good" is not news. For some reason, "the vast majority are" gets criticism.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/08/25 06:45 AM
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Hence "the bar for men is in hell" and the male loneliness epidemic. The two cannot simultaneously exist. Either there are relatively few lonely men, or the bar is actually much higher than we acknowledge. Trying not to sound full of myself, just stating facts, I'm a tall, athletic guy with blue eyes and loves to cook. On paper you'd think women would be lining up to date me. But when I was single it was still tough to get matches. Thankfully I met my girlfriend but it really put it into perspec…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:30 AM
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A lot of people still operate under the assumption that men are privileged as a group, when that isn't the case. The existence of male privileges doesn't make men privileged any more than female privileges make women privileged. But the narrative of men being a privileged group makes people feel any kind of discrimination against them or in favour of women is "punching up".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/25 02:07 AM
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He was in office at the time so I'd be delighted to hear if he's changed his tune.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/25 01:57 AM
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Don't forget Obama said "we now have more women going to college than me. This is a great accomplishment." Don't get me wrong, I like the guy, but no sir, gender inequality is not a "great accomplishment".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/25 06:53 PM
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If men were "Thanos snapped" out of existence, how long would people survive? 3 days. First thing to go is the power, then the water, don't try flushing the toilet. All of these are maintained by 90% men and there simply aren't enough qualified women to pick up the slack before they die of dehydration. There was a show called "The Week The Women Went" where the women of a small town in rural Canada got a week's vacation and it was basically making fun of the men "look at them struggling! Haha!" …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/25 06:07 AM
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They don't, they only would have to if they wanted to claim they are about equality. Oh wait... Nobody is born a feminist. People are born male. Republicans freed the slaves, if someone said they voted republican today would you say they are a good person or are you pro-slavery?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/25 04:26 AM
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If feminism was about equality, they would fight for men's issues, but they don't. If feminism was about women's rights, that would be fine, men's groups could fight for men's rights and feminists would cheer them on or at the very least would not obstruct them. ...but they fight tooth and nail against equality when equality would benefit men or come at the expense of female privilege.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/25 04:14 AM
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Which is why we don't punish rapists for date rape? After all, if they don't remember it, no harm done, right? That's you. That's how you sound. The psychological harm is still harm.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/25 11:09 PM
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Which is why men make up 90%+ of arrests while being 40%+ of victims. Sure.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/25 11:08 PM
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Men are more likely to report than woman. ....are you high? ut not at the same rate. When abused women were asked about their abuse, the average abused woman had been beaten 10 times severely enough to have to see a doctor and lose work. The stats show that in cases of unilateral abuse, women commit the bulk.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/25 10:54 PM
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What are you on about? I was simply pointing out that women are just as violent as men in relationships, men just don't consider the violence to be "abuse".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/25 10:41 PM
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As opposed to men, notorious for saying "my wife hits me"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/25 10:37 PM
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And yet, they dont see a societal problem being men. The homeless, suicides, drug and alcohol addicts, and incarcerated would like a word. If men were truly a "privileged" group, they would not be the vast majority of all of the above. Seriously, draw up a list of white privileges, and see if they apply more to men or women. You'll find the bulk apply to the latter. Again, I'm not saying women are privileged, just showing that men are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:11 PM
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The main obstacle to men's advocacy is the false idea that men exist as a "privileged" group. Are there male privileges? Absolutely. Are there female privileges? Same answer. So while straight people occupy an undisputable position of privilege, as in there are no drawbacks to being born straight and plenty of disadvantages to being born gay, or black, or trans, the amount of drawbacks to being born a man show that men are not in the same category. Just as female privileges existing doesn't make…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:33 PM
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Why do we use such an inflammatory term for it, when "internalized misandry" is both more accurate and less offensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 11:02 PM
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In a word? Misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/25 07:02 AM
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I listened to every word she said and I'm so sorry that happened to her. I just wish people would also listen to men talking about false accusations with the same empathy. Her message of "it just hasn't happened to you" applies just as much. You know a woman that has falsely accused a man, maybe not to the police, but you know one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/25 06:33 AM
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Exactly this, the common narrative is that guys don't open up because other guys will make fun of them. I've never lost a friendship because I cried, I have lost relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:19 PM
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I've often seen the claim that women who murder their spouses get longer sentences than men who murder theirs, but as with all feminist statistics, you have to look into the methodology, and then you find the lie. They were comparing a man pushing his wife down the stairs (obviously that piece of shit deserves prison) with a woman drugging her husband and shooting him while he sleeps. We have varying degrees of murder for a reason. Premeditation carries a harsher sentence than a crime of passion…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/25 08:43 PM
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Female privilege is the constant "men need to intervene". Watch interviews with violent criminals, so many of them target men because they feel "it's just wrong" to target women. Every boy gets told "you never hit a girl for any reason". Obviously some men do target women, but the crime stats speak for themselves that most victims of random violence are men. So a man harassing a woman might not lay a hand on her, but if a man steps in he'll throw down. Female privilege is being unaware of this "…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/25 08:35 PM
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Ask a man "have you ever been abused by a partner?" He'll say no. Ask the same man "has a partner ever slapped, punched, kicked, or thrown something at you?" And he'll say "well yeah, but she was upset" or something to that effect. Men are trained to see violence from women as not a big deal and therefore not worth talking about. That's why we suffer in silence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/25 07:13 PM
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Basically the bell curve for men is wider than the one for women. But some people want to use billionaires and politicians as proof that men are privileged, but a male child chosen at random is more likely to be homeless than in either of those groups. Life for the average man and average woman is pretty much the same. I just say there are males privileges but that doesn't make men privileged any more than we can call women privileged because of the existence of female privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:24 PM
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Paternity testing being standard is beneficial to the baby. Think of all the hereditary diseases that can be screened for. In my family, melanoma is a big risk so I know to keep an eye on my freckles and moles, but imagine if I had no idea. So basically women saying "no we shouldn't have standard testing" are saying "better to pit children in harm's way than have cheating women exposed". Big red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:47 PM
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Same for me if I found out my wife had a "go bag" or a secret account if we had merged finances. "Honey I'm not saying you're an abusive monster but..."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 06:53 PM
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I have this conversation often and people have a difficult time wrapping their heads around the fact that there are male privileges but that men are not privileged any more than the fact that there are female privileges make women privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:44 PM
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Do what, exactly? Fight against equality when equality would benefit men? They absolutely do and there's no shortage of examples.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/25 10:18 AM
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If feminism was about equality feminists would fight for equal custody, and programs to address male suicide, homelessness, and education. If feminism was just about women's rights, they wouldn't fight against men's attempts to address these areas, but they do. Feminism is about what's best for women, even when that runs contrary to equality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/25 07:22 PM
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To that I always ask them to name one law passed within our lifetimes that benefits men at the expense of women. They usually bring up "but abortion!" And I ask how that benefits men when both pro-choice and pro-life camps are 50/50 men and women. Men want abortion banned or legal at the same rate women do. Show me taxpayer funded incentives for male owned businesses, show me where it's a more severe crime for a woman to assault a man than a man to assault a woman, show me where a project to bui…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/25 09:22 PM
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The fact that men are the majority of suicides, the homeless, drug and alcohol addicts, the incarcerated, and workplace deaths show that either the "patriarchy" doesn't exist, or that it is so inept at privileging men that it might as well not. Whenever you ask them to actually substantiate their claims that men being in power benefits men it's always a Michael Scott style "I declared it" rather than any examples.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/25 04:20 PM
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In a perfect world, yes. But in many cases it's unclear who is the victim and who is the perpetrator. If a woman accuses a man of rape, we don't know if he is a rapist or if she is a false accuser. All we know for sure is that one of them is a colossal piece of shit. Unfortunately, in most cases, because we don't know for sure which is which, it's better to let both go free than to punish both.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:05 PM
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And yet they don't. Why do you think men decide to make women so privileged?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:29 PM
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Are we on a desert island or are we not? Since you missed the point I'll get you started. White privileges: less likely to drop out of high school, more likely to attend college, receive lighter sentences for the same crimes, less likely to be arrested for the same crimes, less likely to be shot by police, less likely to experience homelessness, less likely to suffer drug or alcohol addiction. There's a good start, now we can keep going.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:16 PM
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Do a thought experiment: make a complete list of white privileges. Then go back and think about which apply to men, and which to women. You'll find the bulk apply to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 08:04 PM
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If you can expect a better outcome in a given situation because of the way you were born, that's the definition of privilege. Ergo: female privilege exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 07:50 PM
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I've had multiple people tell me "I'll never NOT call myself a feminist" even after I've linked them to multiple despicable things feminist groups have done. One example being 250 feminist organizations, not individuals, organizations, signing a letter to then Prime Minister Justin Trudeau urging him to ban accusations of parental alienation from being used in family court. Think about that for a second. Parental alienation is a recognized form of child abuse. Did they say "verify claims of abus…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/25 07:00 PM
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So a man saying he was falsely accused and a woman saying she was raped deserve to be believed! Glad we agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:48 AM
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Whew! For a second I thought you believed that if a woman claimed to have been raped that we should believe her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:27 PM
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If a man says that he was falsely accused, you believe him, right? You don't treat him any differently? You just believe him and offer him your compassion, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:08 PM
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I support the victim, of course. But who is the victim? The accuser could be the victim, the accused could be the victim. All I know is that one of them is a victim, and one is a piece of shit. Until I know which is which I can't condemn a person. Which person do you automatically decide is the victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:16 AM
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So...you don't believe the victims is what you're saying. Interesting. I find that to be a morally reprehensible position but I can't force you to be a decent person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:29 PM
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That's exactly my point. The whole conversation is about a woman "getting the ick" as they say if a man opens up about being falsely accused. At the end of the day whether it's the woman opening up about being raped or the man opening up about being falsely accused, if either give you "the ick", you're doubting the victim. Men who are falsely accused face HUGE social stigma, so why would he open up about it if it weren't true?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:21 PM
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Brought to you by the same people that say "happy father's day to all the single mothers out there!"
/r/EverydayMisandry11/05/25 02:50 PM
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What kind of nonsense question is that? What about a woman that kills herself because she was raped? A dead body is a dead body. You just think one is more tragic than the other, and I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:35 AM
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The gotcha is that both are piece of shit things to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 10:20 PM
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Yes, very easy to understand. She does not believe victims. She admitted that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 10:18 PM
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And you'd be no different than a guy hearing a woman was raped and breaking up with her over that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 10:12 PM
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Obviously you can break up with anyone for any reason, but if I dumped a girl because she told me was raped I would be just as much of a piece of shit as a girl that dumps a guy for getting falsely accused. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 10:11 PM
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Correct. She believes some victims but not others. Meaning she does not, in fact, believe victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 10:07 PM
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They absolutely are, though. Again, people have killed themselves and been murdered over false accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 09:58 PM
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And I explained why it's a terrible example.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 08:45 PM
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That's...literally what you said about a man opening up about being falsely accused though? That you'd treat him with suspicion?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 08:42 PM
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They are. People have been killed or killed themselves over false accusations. Your denial of the equality is a slap in the face of victims of false accusations. You should be ashamed of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 08:39 PM
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Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 08:33 PM
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You...do know that men have been killed, or killed themselves over false accusations, right? They are of equal severity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 07:16 PM
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How so? Both are victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 06:16 PM
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That's WHY it's such a silly analogy. Thinking a man is a rapist because he said he was falsely accused is no different than thinking a woman is a false accuser because she said she was raped. Both the man and woman are in danger. Make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 06:06 PM
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It's a silly analogy because it goes both ways. If a woman tells me she was raped, should I be on my guard because she could be a false accuser?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 05:58 PM
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The only hypocrisy would be if you would think less of a man who refused to date a woman who claimed to be raped. So, would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 05:50 PM
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How are they not equivalent? A man saying he was falsely accused is no different from a woman saying she was raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 05:38 PM
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But you said you wouldn't date a man that was a victim, specifically of a false accusation. Why the hypocrisy? Why do you treat her as a victim, and him as a suspect? Both are equally victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 05:36 PM
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Answer the question, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 05:21 PM
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Answer the question, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 05:12 PM
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If a woman told a man that she had been raped, and he then broke things off with her because she "wasn't worth the risk" because it might have been a false accusation. Would you consider him a good and decent person, or a scumbag? Because that's you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 04:59 PM
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This is the most sensible response. I've been abused by women, I've been falsely accused (before anyone questions it I was asleep in bed and she came into my room, I woke up to her on top of me and pushed her off, she said I got her drunk and dragged her down the hallway, the whole thing was on video. Me going into my apartment alone, her coming in 45 minutes later, her storming out 2 minutes later, it couldn't have been more open and shut). In fact we don't know whether the majority of accusati…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 04:57 PM
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So yes, I will treat anyone who tells me they were falsely accused (especially unpromted) with caution. I will believe victims first and foremost. You contradicted yourself. If you believe victims, then a man who says he was falsely accused deserves to be believed. If you treat a man who was victimized by a false accusation with skepticism you are no better than someone that would say "but were you really raped?"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 04:43 PM
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The problem is when someone is just… telling you they’ve been falsely accused, you don’t know if it was false. And if you’re in bed with a guy and he starts telling you that, yeah, that’s going to be weird and scary. And if I'm in bed with a woman that says she's been raped, should I keep the same energy? "Was she actually? Is she a false accuser? Could I be next?" Or should I just believe her and show compassion?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 04:41 PM
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"Ok black people, here's some things that I, a white person, want you to do to make me feel more comfortable." But seriously, don't block entrances? Just don't do that in general, it's rude.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/05/25 07:20 PM
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When I mention that I've been falsely accused, I'm often met with "are you sure you didn't actually rape her and you just didn't know it was rape?" Like, considering I was in bed asleep, and she came into my room and tried to get on top of me, and I pushed her off and she left saying I'd "regret that", and later told people I got her drunk, dragged her down the hall, and tried to force myself on her, yeah I'm pretty damn sure I didn't rape her. There was video showing me going into my apartment …
/r/EverydayMisandry01/05/25 07:12 PM
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The fact that TwoX has an almost weekly post about "why women are allowed to hate men and men that have a problem with it are just fragile" should tell you all you need to know.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/25 01:46 PM
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Being a feminist in 2025 is no different than voting republican because "Lincoln was a republican! How could you not support Republicans? Do you support slavery?". Like, good things of the past don't excuse the evils of the present. You can't support feminism and be a good person at the same time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/25 01:15 PM
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NOW fought against legislation that would presume 50/50 custody. Not demand it, just presume it. Feminist groups in Switzerland and the UK fought against raising the age of retirement for women to be equal to that of men. In my country of Canada, 250 feminist organizations signed a letter to our Prime Minister asking him to disallow accusations of parental alienation from being admissible in custody hearings. Anyone that says they're a feminist because they care about equality is on the same int…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 05:21 PM
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Back when I was in school a group of girls dragged me into the girl's washroom, I didn't fight back because of course you don't hit girls. A teacher heard the commotion and found me in there and the girls said they found me in there. Naturally I was taken to the principal's office and chewed out. The girls thankfully came forward and admitted what they did, and were promptly....told not to do that again. No apology to me, no disciplinary action, I was thinking I was going to be expelled and they…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/25 09:34 PM
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There should be a rule about that. Like a "gold standard", but a rule. We could call it "the golden rule" and it would basically be "treat others the way you want them to treat you". I think we're on to something here. I'm what would be called a "masculine" man. I hunt, fish, ride horses, play hockey, all that. I also have a bidet, took my friend that came out of the closet to a gay bar as his support, I garden, I volunteer, whatever. The problem is that some people want me to shy away from the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/25 03:38 PM
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Say "99% of mass shooters are men, so obviously the problem is men" and that's called a valid critique and that men need to be better. Say the equally true fact that "99% of mass shooters were raised by single mothers so obviously the problem is single mothers" and it's misogyny.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/25 10:11 AM
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It can be funny watching their faces when expectations don't meet reality. I'm a conventionally attractive man, but I'm a country boy type and prefer time in the woods to the city. It's amazing how many women decide they like me then get all confused when I don't want to go dancing or basically anything in a city environment. Thankfully I'm with someone with the same interests but it was hilarious when I was single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:14 PM
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See also responses to evil acts, particularly in the case of domestic violence. Man hits woman? "That abusive monster!", rightly so. Woman hits man? "Oh he must have done something where she felt she had to! It must have been self defense!" Even when the man did nothing people will blame it on past trauma, anything to not put her in the "monster" box with abusive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 03:16 PM
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That's fair, but after all we pay for a lot of things we don't want to through taxes. I'm Canadian, so having the testing done would just come from our already publicly funded healthcare, which already covers a lot of tests, of which paternity would be one of the cheapest with nothing but positive results of doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 12:21 PM
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Thanks for the response, and I appreciate you being consistent, a lot of people scream "that's different!". Personally I'm of the opinion that paternity testing should just be included in the battery of tests we already perform on newborns, and it's much cheaper than many of them. Take the interests of the "father" out of the picture for a minute, and look at the best interests of the child. There is no shortage of preventable hereditary diseases that can be screened for, are we really more comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 09:40 PM
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Thanks for the response, good on you for being consistent. I've had far too many people respond to the question with "that's different!!!". Like, no, they actually couldn't be more the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 09:33 PM
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If a man found out his wife had a secret bank account or had a "go bag" packed, would you tell him to leave her? They're both saying the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 02:08 PM
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Men don’t be fighting for custody. This is such a bullshit hill to die on because they don’t even try!!! It's so funny you choose to die on this hill and then bring up race in your next paragraph. Black people are more likely to take plea deals than white people. I guess black people are more guilty? Or maybe black people tend to be less likely to be able to fight against a system they know is stacked against them? It's obvious that thinking isn't your strong point but maybe give it a shot? Just…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:57 PM
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Like I said, you're consistent, and I absolutely respect that. Plenty of people defend Safe Haven laws but oppose men's rights with regards to parental responsibility. I disagree with your stance but we can have an internet handshake and agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:31 PM
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I'd love to see some evidence that men "get it". You're probably going to cite that study from Mass. that claimed "90% of men win custody when they fight", and just believed it. I don't blame you, lots of people just believe things they read, especially when they confirm their bias (there should really be a term for that). Read the methodology. They counted dads getting any custody as "winning". So a dad getting every other weekend...won? Ask any parent if 4 days a month with their kids is "winn…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:29 PM
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Meh, at least you're consistent with you apathy. I'm not from the US either but in Canada we believe in supporting children and even adults that can't support them. They are gendered in that it's only the primary caregiver that can utilize them, guess who that defaults to?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:21 PM
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If he got the baby and drops it off in one of those things, it’s the same. That's a REALLY big "if". It's no secret that it's damn near impossible for a man to get primary custody. Add to that that the mother has absolutely not legal obligation to inform the father that he even is the father... Men can just walk Plenty of men in jail right now would beg to differ. Maybe you're just an absolute monster who thinks we should jail women that use Safe Haven laws. ...or a sexist hypocrite. I know wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:17 PM
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Only with the mother's consent. Edit to add: Which does not in any way take away from the argument of "born children are owed support from their biological parents" argument. We allow women to freely walk away from born children, why not men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:10 PM
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Women do not have rights to financially abort, if the kid is out, she has to support it. Same thing for a man False. Google "Safe Haven" laws. Either petition against those or give men the same option. Otherwise just admit you're a sexist hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:32 PM
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Yes! Please sign a petition to repeal Safe Haven laws! Did you know that women can just give up parental responsibilities to a living, breathing infant, no questions asked? Your tax dollars pay for that! You would absolutely demand these women be forced to care for those children or face jail! Either that or you'd be a sexist hypocrite, but you aren't...are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:30 PM
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As the other user said, some people are just hypocrites. There are pro-life women who get abortions, there are people that fully support safe haven laws while opposing legal paternal surrender. Basically their morality is fluid and just so happens to always sync up with what is best for them, or just a group they actually care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:16 PM
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Thank you for your reply. I'm with you on the uplifting bit. But boy is it exhausting to deal with bigotry. Maybe I need to take a break from the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 11:49 PM
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Just going to ask your perspective on this, I'm a white man so I'd like to hear your thoughts if you have the time. Shouldn't black men be leading the charge on men's issues? There's so much overlap. Education, justice system, poverty. All effect men more than women, and all effect black people more than white people. So black men get a full double whammy when it comes to discrimination. Don't know the answer, just looking to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:54 PM
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I had a conversation with my dad while we were on the phone earlier about the whole "AOC vs. Walz" Madden game. Like, how much more offensive can you get? Imagine the Trump campaign going "oh, we're losing black voters? Police brutality? Poverty? Ok, ok, here's how we get black voters back: we throw the biggest block party you've ever seen! Fried chicken! Watermelon! Purple drink!" I'm white and I would be PISSED AS FUCK seeing a stunt like that being used to try to attract black votes. Like, ma…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 02:56 AM
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Sorry for the late reply. As the other commenter said, it is internalized misandry. Boys from a young age know they are valued less. I don't know why some women seem to not understand this. "200 dead, including 30 women and children". The children part I get, it's obviously more tragic when a child dies than an adult. But why is a woman's death more tragic?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 01:08 AM
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Sorry for the late reply, have to fill in a lot at work. I appreciate your consistency. I've seen far too many "THAT'S DIFFERENT" idiots. I've been to nudist places, our bits and pieces are just that, I don't care one way or the other. Pee or shit where you have to pee or shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 01:02 AM
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Would you be ok with men "breaking rules"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:39 PM
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Your flair says you're a woman, what are you doing in men's bathrooms?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:34 PM
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If men could get pregnant then at 18 we'd have them enter a registry. If the birth rate dropped there would be a lottery, a..."selective service", if you will, of men that are "drafted" to put their bodies on the line for the good of their country. This whole "men in power look out for men" thing is bullshit and you're an idiot if you don't know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:33 PM
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Remember when Trump Jr. posted that exact. same. meme. Just with skittles instead of m&ms, and Syrian refugees instead of men? Did everyone nod and go "yup, it's their fault white people are afraid of them"? No! They rightly called out the bigotry! They just don't see men as full people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/24 07:34 PM
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Exactly! Hence why you support paternity tests! A man needs to protect himself and the mother's hurt feelings are irrelevant. Glad we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 08:24 PM
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Surely you would similarly chastise a woman for keeping a "go bag" or a private bank account, right? You'd say "why are you with him? What do you suspect him of?" Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:37 PM
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Just like women CHOOSING to be with abusive men? Why would she need an emergency fund if she knew she was getting into a relationship with an abusive man?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:29 PM
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An accusation of cheating is indeed an accusation of cheating, requesting a paternity test is not an accusation. It's not saying "I know you cheated", but rather "I want to make sure you didn't cheat before I sign an 18 year contract". The "identical"-ness comes from the hurt the partner feels at the thought of "you, the person I love, the person I care about the most, think I would ever hurt you in that way?" No offense but...you, a woman, will never be faced with being held legally accountable…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 02:24 PM
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But there really is no equivalent for paternity fraud, is there? I will never be able to have an affair, conceive a child, and hold my partner legally accountable for the well being of that child, all while convincing my partner the child is theirs, can I? We're not talking about a couple agreeing to separate accounts, we're talking about a couple agreeing to merged finances, and the woman keeping a separate account that only she can access (also known as financial abuse). A husband finding out …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:53 AM
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I'm so glad that you haven't seen people saying this. But I will save this comment so I can link you to the next time I see it. Basically a man with a child he has been raising gets told "it doesn't matter! That's your child!" but basically if you're a woman, sorry...you get no opinion on the matter. You will NEVER find out a child isn't yours, so you get no opinion on how men should act.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:45 AM
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Sorry for the delayed response, I work in healthcare and we're short (but then where isn't). I was referring to a woman having a secret account being her assurance that she can leave, and yet men have no such assurance, even proving a child isn't theirs isn't enough to relieve them of responsibilities. Imagine a world where women were told "yes, you have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that your husband abused you. But...you owe him money, and we will take it from you under threat of jail." Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:39 AM
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It boils down to the fact that it should happen before the fact. A woman saying "I'd like a joint account, but I'd like us to both have a separate account, just in case I need to leave" is absolutely no different than a man saying "I trust you, but I'm getting a paternity test before I sign a birth certificate". Both statements are equal, "I trust you....I promise I trust you....but don't like...REALLY trust you."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:49 AM
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A "safety fund" is as much an accusation as a pre-birth paternity test. Both are "oh I'm just protecting myself in case you turn out to be a piece of shit" I think every woman that makes the "DNA doesn't matter, it's your child!" argument should put their money where their mouth is and adopt or foster a child. Or at least have their salary garnished to fund the foster system. I think you'd see a lot less of those arguments when its women's livelihoods on the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:44 AM
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I'm so with you on your last point. Like, we give babies all kinds of tests already, what's one more? Just make it standardized. For anyone against it I'd just ask "how many hereditary diseases are there?" Literally a "think of the children" thing, we could be screening way more kids and preventing so many illnesses and deaths. We can't say "think of the men" because that's a guaranteed way to make people not care. Heck, just recently 250 feminist organizations asked the Canadian government to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:10 AM
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Agreed. I've seen plenty of comments from women saying "if he asks for a paternity test he'll get the results and divorce papers". The same should go for men. If she has a secret bank account, hand her divorce papers, and serve her the lawsuit for half of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:54 PM
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You can marry a good woman who meets a man she wants to bang. I'd wager just about everyone that has been in more than one relationship has been cheated on. Would you buy a house, sight unseen, and sign an 18 year mortgage because you trust the broker? I've seen the phrase "no uterus, no opinion" used a lot when it comes to abortion. The same applies here. If you biologically will never question if "your child" is yours, and the subject of paternity fraud comes up, (to quote Penn Jillette): "you…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:45 PM
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So she gets her assurance, but he doesn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:23 PM
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If the separate accounts are known about with an agreement on how much to split, sure. The issue is one partner funneling funds that the other is under the understanding are joined into a private one. We call that "financial abuse".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:22 PM
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Happens all the time on AITA, somehow with the exact same story the man is the asshole.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 08:11 PM
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I find it the same with stories of domestic violence. "Why was she so mad?" "Maybe she was abused in the past and she just responded". Like if a woman walks up to a random woman on the street and stabs her in the face society's response would be "well surely there's a man to blame for this!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/24 08:40 PM
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Or when they come back with "well maybe you did rape her! We're only hearing your side!" Like, yeah, her side is she was drunk at a party and I dragged her down the hall and tried to force myself on her, my side is I went home by myself, chilled with my apartment-mate for a bit, went to bed, woke up to her on top of me and pushed her off, she stormed off screaming I'd regret doing that, I locked the door and went back to bed. Everyone believed her, I got jumped by six dudes thinking they were be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/24 08:05 PM
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